I think that everyone has to much time on there hand and the BIBLE IS JUST THAT AND HE DESTROYED A WHOLE TOWN AND THE WORD IS THE WORD GOD LOVES EVERYTHING HE CREATED BUT WE HAVE FREE WILL. AND THAT BEING SAID READ THE BOOK OF ROMANS AND GODS THOUGHTS ABOUT HIS CHILDREN WHO WILLING DISOBEY HIS COMMAND AND CONSTANTLY TRY TO DEFILE THE BIBLE. IF UR GAY OR LESBIAN U R A SINNER AND UR GOING TO HELL IF U DONT REPENT TRYING TO CORRUPT THE WORD OF GOD TO FIT UR PERVERTED LIVES I REBUKE U ALL GET A CLUE REPENT GET SAVE MARRY A MAN OR WOMAN AND FUFILL GODS PROMISE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIMES TRYING TO BE EQUAL CAUSE GOD COMES BACK IF U DONT HAVE A RENEWED HEART THE WADGES OF SIN R DEATH!

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

Obama's Church (As professed to Oprah Winfrey)…(It's a black only church that supports Africa- nowhere does it say its support of America. Very alarming- research it for yourself to prove its validity.

Well what can I say. If I speak out against this self proclaimed reformed homosexual then I will be called racist and homophobic. Well let me get rid of the homophobic thing since I am gay and its not a choice. Good for this guy. Perhaps he's had to deal with more intolerence than my white privledge. Perhaps he just hasn't had the opportunity to welcome his sexuality. I don't think politics is a place for religion. The Christian agenda always seems to take the presidency and dominates the political climate. So much for seperation of church and state. Well what about all the Musleums, Jews, Budhists, Wiccans, Pagans, Hindus and all other religions. What candidate represents the constitution? Does this one? Or does the Christian populist vote only count. Let me see! duhhh another day at the office of promoting the conservative christian agenda!

Our politial system being over run by religious zealots! It has been for most of my life. Now the democratic party is starting to get overrun?

I don't think I'll be voting for Obama. *sigh* I don't know if any of them on either party (since we are stuck in a 2 part system) are worth voting for.

We need good leadership so badly!

I think all of those people criticizing Donnie McClurklin need to take a close look at the hate and intolerance in their own hearts. Donnie McClurklin was raped as a child by his uncle and older cousin. It's a well known fact that male rape victims later have issues with their sexuality even if they had been straight before. In the documentary "The Donnie McClurklin Story" he clearly said "I'm not trying to change those who don't want to change. But there are some people out there who are hurting and want help." Anyone who is sympathetic to victims of rape should applaud Reverend McClurklin. Frankly I'm disappointed with Barak Obama for not giving him a more vigorous defense.

Firstly, Donnie McClurklin IS STILL GAY! My cousin lives in Atlanta. He bought one of his lovers a house.

Most white evangelicals feel the same way. They've had far more success at derailing and vilifying the plight of homosexuals in this country than black Christians. You have many politicians win elections because of the the anti-gay push brought on by white evangelicals.

FACT: These same homophobic black evangelicals always vote for the pro-gay democrat politician. So, gays really need to re-think this….

The bible was named after a known homosexual (King James VII of Scotland and I of England), who ordered the publishing of the bible from Latin to English. That bible was translated by a man who despised King James,

Posted By Wanda, Washington, DC : October 30, 2007 5:10 pm

How come I never heard of this before? tell me more, I am interested in the historical facts of the bible

It is always interesting to me when people speak with absolute authority on any subject, especially one that they have no personal knowledge of or experience with. As a gay, Christian, African-American male, I can without reservation say that I did not ever make a conscientious decision to be attracted to a man. My innate aversion to females sexually is as I would expect would be experienced by heterosexuals attempting to be attracted to the same sex. I have also talked with many individuals over the years that have stated that they were converted through faith or some other means, and have always noticed a common theme among the majority of them. As in Donnie McClurkin's case, there seems to always be some form of childhood sexual abuse that may have precipitated the beginning of a certain type of lifestyle. Does this make one a homosexual? I don't think so. In these instances I would agree that the continuation of homosexual behavior is indeed a choice, and I would wholeheartedly agree that with God's help you can stop actions that were/are contrary to your initial make-up. For those of us who were not abused and did not learn homosexual behavior from another person, and definately would not have chosen to be an "outsider" or "sinner", I must strongly disagree with the "every homosexual has chosen to be one" argument.

Rev. Donnie McClurkin words are not in accordance with the facts or reality.

Maybe homosexuality is niether a choice or innate. This issue has been overly simplified and most people are unwilling to think honestly and deeply about it. Is it possible that environmental factors in early childhood (i.e. lack of bond with father figure) could play a major role in determining sexual preference? The evidence for homosexuality being purely genetic is not substantial (contrary to popular opinion), so it is quite narrow to call either side a moron or a fanatic. There should be room for open discussion among empathetic people with differing opinions.

You know, I really don't respond to much, when it comes to news stories, but I had to take a moment to make thoughts known. Donnie spoke of hypocrisy in the church. It is so sad, that he himself stands in the shoes of the hypocrisy he speaks of. I have a friend in California, who personally knows Donnie, and saw him last month, and Donnie was trying to get with my friend, once again! Hypocrisy? Deliverance???

LET HAVE DONNIE! You call those mannerism deliverance?

Who promotes freedom of speech and respect for the opinions of others to be what you want to be? Gays? NO!
I have not read all the comments but I have yet to read a comment by a gay respecting Donnie M.'s personal choice and position.
It reveals the great insecurity and lack of tolerance by those who condemn
others for intolerance.

Thanks CNN for Censoring my Comments…go ahead do it again, so I can tell 10 more people about you…

All I wrote was homosexuality is a sin. The Bible is clear on that and thats what Donnie said. He spoke what the Bible states.. Obama is not God..

I had been supportive of his campaign up until this flagrant display of anti-gay bias on the candidate's part. I will now actively campaign against Barack Obama, and urge all gay men and lesbians to do the same.

I will never believe a word that comes out of the mouth of any black person who still worships and believes in the bible.

The bible was named after a known homosexual (King James VII of Scotland and I of England), who ordered the publishing of the bible from Latin to English. That bible was translated by a man who despised King James, but he just did not have the balls to say it to his face. Instead, he added untrue words and beliefs to the bible because King James could not speak or read English.

After Nat Turner and Denmark Vessey were hanged in the 1800's, white peopele hurried out of fear to convert blacks to Christianity, and did so successfully! Blacks today still believe the bible and worship it better than white people do. The most sad part of it all is that democratic blacks voted for President Bush in 2004 because of their views on homosexuality.

Get to know god from within, and not from a pimped out pastor!

We as black folks can be so slow sometimes!!!!!

Probably the biggest reason for the hissy fits is that far too often "Christianity" becomes a synonym for "hypocrisy".

You're right… but I won't forsake my faith in God because some corrupt men have twisted his teachings.

I, for one, am done preaching about this issue. Let them practice their gay lifestyle and see what happens. They were warned.

You Christians would all need industrial strength diapers if Obama's roadshow included an atheist or an anti-christian. So… so much for defending the right of McClurkin to have an opinion

If this homosexuality-is-a-mistake rhetoric is hwo Obama 2008 feels, then they have LOST any chance of my vote.

From Europe. SOOO funny to read this nonsense. Please, focus your attention on more important things…
And homosexuality is a choice? So everyone who feels attracted to the same sex makes a choice to have that terrible feeling inside about some people hating you and having to prepare your coming out? HAHAHA, what year do you Americans live in? 1800?

This should not be an issue for Obama supporters on either side of the homosexual fence.

In a speech regarding religion and politics some time ago Obama raised the subject of the separation of church and state, emphasizing the critical roll it has played in preserving our democracy, and how critical it remains, but he also firmly stated that it is wrong to ask believers to leave their religion at the door before stepping into a public arena.

If anything this issue demonstrates that he has not deviated from his earlier statements.

The separation of church and state created by the first amendment to the bill of rights, (further reflected in the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom) prohibits Congress from establishing a national religion, the preference of one religion over another, or religion over non-religion. This prohibits the government from enacting legislation that establishes a prefernce for one religion over another or religion over non-religion, it also prevents it from prohibiting the free exercise of one's religion or belief's.

I am happy that Rev. McClurkin has found peace in his faith.

There are some elements included in his statement that deserve much more attention and focus, than his conversion though.

1) "But there is a side of Christ that deals in judgment, and all sin is against God."

This is an element of Christianity that people seem to be forgetting these days. It is Christ that deals in judgement, he made it clear in his teachings that it was not for us as imperfect beings ourselves to judge. He taught us through his examples, to reach out in compassion, love and forgiveness, when sharing his message and gift.

2) "Don't call me a bigot or anti-gay, when I have been touched by the same feelings," McClurkin went on. "When I have suffered with the same feelings"

Many people equate the term homosexual exlusively with the sexual act, which is considered a sin in many religions. Rev. McClurkins use of the word feelings, in some ways pertains to this. The word homosexual in fact has two definitions, one refers to the sexual act, the other refers to an attraction to one of the same gender independant of sexual contact. There are in fact people who have never actually had sex, who consider themselves homosexual, because they feel an attraction to those of the same gender, and a lack of attraction to those of the opposite gender. (further down my post are references to some research that could shed some light on this aspect of things)

While I am happy for the joy and peace Rev. McClurkin has found in his faith. I've seen and read enough to cast reasonable and considerable doubt on the concept of homosexuality as simply a matter of choice.

My original goal in studying available information regarding this issue was simply to verify information stated as unequivical fact on a couple of anti-gay oriented web sites, regarding research showing indisputably no biological basis for homosexuality.

While unable to verify the validity of those statements or even research(the only references I could find to the research they cited were on like minded sites, as opposed to actual scientific sites) I instead came across research that contradicted what I originally was searching for.

Two research papers I found intesting, were based on earlier research that focused on heterosexual male and heterosexual famale based data, which was repeated with the inclusion of in one homosexual male based data, and the other homosexual female based data. They demonstrate clearly organic variations between the groups, and similarities that were surpising..but maybe not. Although it might be a bit dry reading for some, the information is quite interesting, and purely of an unbiased scientific nature.

These research papers can be found at http://www.pnas.org/

They are titled:

Brain response to putative pheromones in lesbian women

and

Brain response to putative pheromones in homosexual men

In the course of putting this response together and re-examining the information I was including to ensure I didn't end up appearing to be a blithering idiot. The combination of religous reading and information, and scientific reading and information led me to contemplate some things that to me stood out, but I hadn't seen mentioned in discussions regarding these issues. While unconventional it didn't seem completely unplausable to consider so I'll share it at the risk of massive flames.

In the old testiment God is at times vengeful, merciless, fearsome and terrifying, and it was in these times that God instructed abolute and total intolerance of homosexual sex, along with many other things, he instructed that people be stoned to death for various failings, and even instructed us to kill non-believers in Deuteronomy 13:6-10

In the new testiment God in the form of Jesus guides us down a different path. While we are still bound by the laws and commandments handed down before in our personal lives, the laws of the old testiment were handed down by God to form and maintain order in his newly formed Nation of Israel, and with the coming of Jesus this was no longer needed nor desired as part of his new Kingdom. (The first separation of church and state?)

From this point on Jesus instructs us that it is not for us to judge others, in Matthew 7 he refers to the person finding fault in another as a hypocrit, he teaches against condemnation, persecution, and so on. Instead he teaches us to reach out to people, with love, compassion. He does not teach us to avoid sinners, or turn our backs on them, he stated that he was not here for the righteous but for the sinners. He instructs his followers to follow these teachings and his example, to gently lead those who have not yet accepted him, as he himeself lead them, to him and his kingdom.

His instructions to his followers in the New Testiment are very clear in regards to their behavior and how he expects them to respond those who are not followers, even when it comes to sinners, so much so, that reaching back and pointing to the old testiment for instruction when faced with an issue you really feel strongly on, denies his authority and teachings.

Now it gets a bit twisted….all that considered. If homosexuality is in fact physiological, as the researh I referenced could indicate, that presents the possibilty it is an element of creation, and all of a sudden the tables would be turned on many.

Yes I think too much but I hope I have provided some interesting reading.

Oh Obama, as a professional gay man who until now 100% supported your candidacy…both a former Columbia grad and a resident of Chicago like you, I have now lost complete faith in who you sign on for your campaign venues. Have we learned nothing from the Republicans over the past 7 years about hypocrisy and intolerance running amok in our daily political choices. You sir, have done a HUGE amount of damage to your campaign. Hillary has never looked so good.

Seems like a scientific experiment gone haywire. This happens when homo sapiens control the chemicals going into the test tube. Consider what a little faith and compassion might do for your relative.

On another note, being "born gay" doesn't excuse someone from being immoral. Would it be okay to excuse a man from womanizing because he was "born with a high libido"?

Of course it's OK, as long as his "womanizing" (whatever you mean by that) doesn't hurt anyone. The only immorality is causing suffering. How does being gay cause suffering of others?

McClurkin interprets homosexual sex right but interprets the whole homosexuality and LGBTism wrong. True Christians do not bash LGBT people.

Good to see that some people at least are willing to step out of the shadow of political correctness and acknowledge the fact that homosexuality, and all other types of sexual perversion, are immoral.

I am amazed how in today's world, I being a devoted follower of Jesus, cannot speak my convictions and if I do, I am considered intolerant. However, those who would have an opposing view are considered to be tolerant and have full rights to say what they want, when they want, even to the point of trying to impose their views and thoughts on me. Yes, in the name of Christianity many have said and more importantly done things that are totally anti-Jesus type actions.
Having said that, it is interesting to note that it became in vogue only in the lately 70's and early 80's to hear the term, "I was born this way" in relation to gay men and lesbian women. I love all people, befriended many who consider themselves gay and have become my friends over the years. Because the Love of Christ is so strong in me and love is more than just a feeling or emotion, that just like other things that Jesus deemed to cause someone to not live the life that God had planned for them, in love, wisdom, patience, care and courage, I cannot be silent because those that disagree with me tell me to be. I could say the same to them…. but I wouldn't. It's not in my nature…

Whether he realizes it or not, Rev. McClurkin's "God saved me from Homosexuality" statement only reinforces people's homophobia. I genuinely was inspired by Barack and really thought he was bringing hope to America. Using this gospel singer to bring in more votes only makes me feel cynical about this election.

Speaking as a gay man, I can honestly say that Obama has lost my support. No, it's not because of the opinions that were expressed by Rev McClurkin. In fact I embrace his courage to come forward and speak his mind like he did, despite the fact I disagree with what he says. Because I disagree does not mean I condemn. However, I have lost support for Obama because he smells of Sen. Kerry, a man who is flip flopping on the issues at hand. He wants to unite everyone in peace, yet he is not only pandering to groups just to get their votes, he is also refusing to take a strong stand for anything. It comes off too wishy washy. I do not need a wishy washy president.

Obama, I think there is a Sherman tank waiting for you to take a ride in. Dukakis has been keeping the seat warm for you.

I don't know why heterosexuals should have such a negative opinion about homosexuals. I am a homosexual woman and who I am does not have a negative impact on anyone that I consider to be my friends or family.

My family acknowledges the fact that I displayed signs of being gay at an early age. I am very proud of my parents for having a progressive attitude. They are republican, catholic, and have been married for 27 years. They want their children to be happy. They understand that I did not choose to be homosexual. If my own conservative parents support me and don't have a problem with it, why should people detached from it have influence in how I live my life?

I have very little to say about this moron (McClurkin). If he wants to go back into the closet, let him. Don't expect me or any other proud gay American to follow him. I am pretty disappointed in Obama. Obama did have my vote prior to reading this story, but I believe that I may have to reconsider.

Seriously people… the fact that I was BORN homosexual has NO affect on you. It's not like homosexual people are out trying to encourage heterosexual people to "hop the fence." I can understand that some people may not have a good understanding of what it is like to be gay. Maybe it takes the revelation that a family member or a close friend is gay to lead someone to think about it.

Here's an interesting thought to ponder when it comes to homosexual rights and the government… I pay taxes just like everyone else. Give me equal rights, or reduce the taxes that I have to pay every year. Don't treat me like a citizen at tax time, just to deny me the rights of heterosexuals.

We don't need any religious fanatic in the White HOuse; Mr OBAMA DEPERATE TO GRAB POWER IN ANY FORM!

BE WISE AND SAY NOT TO OBAMA. NO BUSH LIGHT ANY MORE EITHER AS REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATE.

Now people started to see real Obama; he is a religious zealots hunger for power.

Be wise and say NO TO OBAMA AN OPPORTUNIST POLTICIAN!

Can anyone really point to a specific example where our society is undermined by gays and lesbians or are you just saying that because that's what you were told to think?

Have to say I agree with w9w0e90e. It's not an issue of tolerance it's an issue of stupidity. As an out homosexual I know where my vote won't be going.

So many Christians, so few lions.

It's funny to see how some African Americans seem to have have forgotten how religion was used to justify slavery, segregation, bans on interracial marriage, etc.

I understand that many humans need their silly superstitious beliefs to help them get through life. I just wish they could use these beliefs to do something positive for once.

I thought Obama was an intelligent possibility for change until his strategy of using religion as a basis for meetings. In this time of organized religions, from Muslim to Baptist, causing so much pain and suffering around the world it would make more sense to abandon the gospel meeting campaign.

YOU"RE STILL GAY! YOU WERE BORN THAT WAY!!!!! It is THE underlying problem among gays and lesbians in the black community today…they can't square their faith with their reality/ sexuality. Trust me, you're not 'cured'. You just need to live truthfully. Your GOD will still love you. You're hurting your family and friends by not being genuine. Get over it and COME OUT!

If prayer delivered McClurkin from "gay thoughts", he wasnt "gay".

I am gay and was had "straight thoughts".

I grew into my sexuality.
End of story.

Well I'm a big ole 700 pound Bush redneck and if Obamasama is gonna start talkin like this boy, then I might be votin for a colored in this election. Buford Blankenship, Florence, SC

Loving someone of the same gender as oneself is NOT a sin, nor is it a choice. It's a natural and beautiful part of God's diverse creation.

Being willfully ignorant about gay people, however, IS a choice; and using such ignorance and superstition in the name of God to gain earthly power (fame, political power, wealth, etc.), which both McClurkin and Obama seem to be after, IS a sin.

To quote a prominent Evangelical Christian: "When you mix politics and religion, you get politics." The US is NOT a theocracy, and should never become one. We don't want Taliban-like control; we want freedom of religion(s) and thought and speech. The Bible or any other religious scripture is NOT
the US Constitution. Amen for that!!!

"I do not discriminate, I have many friends who are homosexuals, and of varying religions and races. I do not preach to anyone that you must become straight or convert, It is however a CHOICE that can be made, just as Love or fiendship is a Choice to be made."

Right. Why don't you tell your gay friends that homosexuality is choice, right to their faces? Let's see how many friends you'll have left after that.

ThisLoveHasAlwaysExisted
(originally written for the black community, from an African-american queer)

Once was a dude named Saul, in the Bible look him up under Paul. Raised Jew, he made it his business to pursue Christians right after Christ died and left for the sky, he even stood by and watched Stephen, the first "official" martyr die.

But one day on the way to Damascus came a light and the Lord, and he fell to his knees.

Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?!!!
I am not a threat to the Jews, I fulfill all you hold true.

And Saul was struck blind, yet Paul’s sight was restored!
"… I have no command of the Lord, but I give my opinion as one who by the Lord's mercy has been found trustworthy."

Jotted down by the apostle who wrote to Rome and told them to stop sleeping with their own sons, it’s a favorite moment of mine, a time tested version of ultimate conversion, a point I hope will illuminate a true existence of love, finding a way to stop the hate.

For who can say that gay people today are not by the Lord's mercy, trustworthy?
Police profiling, infighting, lack of community kindness, straight people’s license to kill, corporate ill will, crystal meth, a new black death…Many of us have LOVED without even picking up the phone to call home. We have wished we would be asked to tell and survived.

Now, before you get up from your seats and wander away, take a second to consider what change means today, we have internet, millions of books and time to look—seen past sinners become saints: divorcees, Joan of Arc, haters and interracial daters.
Didn't know that's an abomination to? According to the Bible only 7 or 8 exist…Interracial marriage was one tossed into the mix, women wearing gold jewelry or men's clothing, check. And now we come to… gay sex.

THAT sex is SO NASTY you say…funny, last time I checked isn't all sex that way? Wasn't your first time a mess of wetness, slapping sounds a mix of pleasure and pain? Isn't all sex the same? Love IS TOO and here we find the righteous and true course. When one loves but cannot say, hey that's my wife after 30 years and many tears… something’s gone horribly wrong, hear?!!! To not be able to say goodbye before you die? To never feel safe and comfortable in school, to be a lil black boy who's breaking all the rules?

I'm telling you, you know who we are. You seen us as kids, see the parents desperately trying to put back the lid, boys a lil too “sweet” or girls too sour…now you see us behind makeup counters shouting “girl power”, we’re the women on softball teams with 10 up, the drag kings holding court, we’ve also got soldiers in every fort! Some of us even become actors, but please believe that being closeted and queer is totally a factor.

This Love exists. And biblical examples do too! Coming out to your parents? Another Saul who was never a Paul, once felt deceived by a boy about to be king. I now speak of the union of David and Jonathan, a covenant between two men; a future king and his “best friend”, the son of his biggest enemy? Total queer drama right? Oh sure, yeah maybe they were really just “tight”. But when HIS MAN died, David wept and he cried: “thy love was wonderful, passing the love of women!”.
Listen to me, David and Jonathan were MORE THAN JUST KIN!
THIS LOVE EXISTED!

The past knows this truth, who knows how well, as Brother Huey of the Black Panther Party so eloquently put it, "Quite the contrary, perhaps a homosexual could be the most, revolutionary". They are now never alone as they wait for you: Bayard Rustin who led the March for the Dream with Martin Luther King, Langston Hughes still perched on a crystal stair waiting for YOU to know what it's like to be really disappeared. James Baldwin, up in Giovanni’s room listening to Billie sang queer blues…they turn to tell you this love has always existed.

All the way back to African times, where there were women warriors and boy wives before Christ came and was battered into our brains. Don’t get me twisted, I’m not dissing Christ or saying we should give ‘em up. I’m just wondering why no one is listening to the son of god crying out to us from our communion cup?
Love one another! Love one another! Love one another!
It’s never been a riddle, ain’t no missin jot or tittle.
He said, I am the vine and you are the branches, so stop leaving your fruit on the tree!

So sad, that for some black folk an invisible closet has instead been key. And I’m finally here on the other side, finding it locked, kicking it down, and letting you have it; opening your ears to the tragic w\ word magic.

So speak to your pastors and wonder aloud…ask yourself what to do now. Do it before your son or daughter starts showing the trait and before “your best friend” asks for a date. We can all be delivered if you vote to turn the tide against hate, your voice has much weight so use it and tell others for we are your sons and mothers, brothers and daughters, baby's mamas, sisters, father’s brothers, grandmothers, your baby boys and girls. We are the love that exists.

It was by the Lord’s Mercy that I was found trustworthy…and hence suffered and suffered, like Paul I was once even beheaded and put back together…all because one day on the way to Damascus came a light and the Lord, and we fell to our knees. I am not a threat to you, I only fulfill all you hold true. I am the love that has always existed.

I was born Jewish, but Ann Coulter would have me "perfected."

I am gay, but Donnie Mclurkin would have me be "delivered" from myself.

A few decades ago, my father was rounded up by Nazis for not being perfected. Others my father knew were rounded up by the Nazis for being gay.

I am new to this country, but I understand it was founded on the principle of religious freedom – freedom to believe and freedom to not believe. I also believe this country was founded on the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

McClurkin can say what he wants; I would fight for his freedom to do so. But by associating him with his campaign, Barak Obama associates himself with McClurkin's views. After all, this was not about supporting McClurkin's First Ammendment Rights, it was about having him represent the Obama Dream for America.

say goodbye to Obama's candidacy!

Sorry about ol' Donnie McClurkin's desires of wanting a man in his bed getting in the way, and his self-hatred rearing it's ugly head and the OBAMA camp allowing him the stage at an OBAMA event to spew anti-gay filth. If he want's to do this, as a GAY man, on his own time, great, but to allow it at an OBAMA event tells me there's no way EVER I'd vote for OBAMA now. He might as well say he's a Republican after throwing us to the back of the bus and allowing the stage to be given to a self-hating sanctimonious pig to tell us that we're sinners for being who GOD made us. I don't want to be Donnie before GOD, I'll gladly answer for myself and beg again for my place with the LORD, but I feel nothing but pity for the swine that is Donnie, and his self-hatred being so strong that he has to attack other gay people to make himself feel like he's accomplishing something in his own life – which is trying to erase his being gay.

You poor sick miserable man.

God delivered me from the dark mind of the religious zealot who would claim to speak for all of His creation. God delivered me from having to choose between those who are different from me and those who see the world in a different light. God delivered me from a life of separatation and lies perpetrated by divisive and deceptive interpretations of Scripture carefully and deviously manipulated by fear mongerers and charlatans. God delivered me and gave me the opportunity to embrace happiness and joy in life. I am still homosexual and I thank God for it. It is a gift not an abomination.

I once was anti-racist. But god, the republicans and the evangelical churches — especially the southern baptist church and the KKK showed me the error of my ways.

They cured me from my anti-racist, pro-social 'justice for all' urges. Now I can do the easy thing and not worry about whether african americans and people of color ever receive equal justice and equality of rights because God has decided for me that RACISM IS GOOD in the same way that HOMOPHOBIA IS GOOD since it comes directly from God (and the Republican Party, and now from Obama).

Now I am delivered from no longer being a bigot — I am a racist bigot just as god and the republican party and Obama intended.

Hallelujah, praise jesus and pass the ammunition.

Just sign me: Former Anti-Racist Now I am a Happy Racist the Way God Intended Me to Be

Umm all you people out that are saying this guy change's your view because Obama believe's in this, Well we all have our flaw's don't we none of us is perfect. That guy need's to cut the religion stuff ok. No one care's about religion anymore he's running to be president not the pope so who care's what this guy has to say about religion anyway hje is just trying to make himself look important. Obama is the right guy just give him a chance you would know if you listen too him

I agree with Rev. McClurkin's views, and rejoice in his own personal testimony of God's ability to heal and change lives. God does not only deliver homosexuals that want to change, but also habitual liars, thieves, alcoholics and the list goes on. There are no limits to where the love and grace of God can reach.

I don't see why Gay activists always point a finger at those who have been delivered out of the lifestyle- by accusing them either of bigotry or being insincere.

I TOO, was delivered out of it by the mighty hand of God. There was nothing Gay or happy about my experience in it, and I am glad that now 20 years later like Rev. McClurkin I too serve God completely free from the bondage of that particular choice.

I see nothing Homophobic about Rev. McClurkin's statements quite the contrary- He is a tender hearted and sincere individual who can identify with the pain, isolation and anguish of many who are still trapped in the "lifestyle".

I too believe it's a choice, in the same way that no-one is born with a cigarette in their mouth. On the contrary- those who have experienced the pain of the gay life- are even better qualified to speak of God's amazing power to deliver a person out of it because you've walked along the same path.

In my view, it is no reflection on Sen. Obama- that he allowed Rev. McClurkin to take part in the concert. Regardless of your views about the issue, Rev. McClurkin is a very talented and gifted performer, who has an ability to bring healing, encouragement and much joy through the power of Song. Why deny the audience an opportunity to be so wonderfully blessed?.

I cannot vouch for every specific religious, social, cultural, or moral belief of those persons I choose to call my friends. For the same reason, I find it silly and more than a bit ridiculous to demand that every politician cleanse him or herself of supporters that do not match my personal belief system. This entire argument is surreal….and I strongly suspect it is being stirred up by the Clinton camp for their own self-serving reasons.

I really don't know why the media makes such a big deal about comments regarding gays and lesbians. I do believe that homosexuality is a choice because God did not create us to be with a same sex partner and the Bible strongly prohibited such union(lev18:22). If being homosexual is not a choice then the Bible itself will not be credible, and we know It is. As human being, we all have rights but it seems that homosexuals have the right to expres their feeling and it is ok but as soon as hetero people say something it is viewed as discrimination why? Does the world forget what freedom of speech and equality for all mean? I would like to know America's position on the subject.

gay is still unacceptable? really? and i'm supposed to be tolerant towards intolerance. sorry, the whole because it's in the bible isn't good enough for me. how come christians can't figure out jesus's message? live and let live. don't worry christians. I'll not only pray to God and Jesus for you, but also pray to Buddha, Vishnu, and Allah for you. you're gonna need as much help as possible.

It seems Barak's "people" are making a very big mistake in letting this bigot join in on his campaign. It's true that he may gain the black conservative fundamentalist vote – but when this story becomes more mainstream he can probably say goodbye to the majority of the gay vote and those who support him – I really don't care since Hillary is the best candidate anyway. Also, since we are talking about the infallability of the bible – please make sure that you let the believers know that the bible also condones slavery, separation of the races and stoning adulters. By the way, it's probably a good idea to boycott Oprah too! Let the gay voice be heard and stop being so politically correct.

I Was A Supporter Of Mr. Obama, Until This Past Weekend's Fiasco With Mr. Donnie McClurkin, I Have Seen Mr. McClurkin In Concert & Thought He Was Gay, But I Didn't Knows What His Views Were On Homosexually. If I Had, I Would Have Never Gone To See Him. I Was Born & Raised In "The Bible Belt" & Have Heard All The Retoric He Spouts, But I Know First-Hand That It Isn't True. I Was Born Homosexual, Certainly Never Chose It & I Truly Believe It Is As Much A Part Of Me, As My Eye Or Hair Color. I Will Be Voting Hopefully For Hillary Clinton Now!!

…"74 percent of South Carolina African-Americans believe homosexuality is "unacceptable."

These people are bigots, pure and simple. The same as if someone said black people are "unacceptable."

well, guess we'll just have to wait for that email or text message from jesus telling us what is the correct point of view. oh that's right, jesus can only whisper in peeps ears and his dad was only skilled at inscribing stone tablets. maybe the holy ghost is computer literate???

If McClurkin was indeed delivered from a life of homosexuality, why is it necessary to make this public? If he believes that God loves all, then let gay men and lesbians celebrate their lives, peacefully and with all the rights that heterosexuals enjoy. The truth is that McClurkin doesn't think that homosexuality is natural, he thinks it is a sin. And that is why we, progressive types gay and straight, find it objectionable that Obama would ask him to participate in one of his events. It doesn't matter if Oprah introduced him to Obama or not. Obama has failed in keeping McClurkin on the bill. He has failed miserably. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. If it were a choice, you wouldn't need God to deliver you from it.

Reasonable people understand that Obama is caught in a political firestorm. He wants to appeal to the gay vote and yet realizes his bigger voting audience are the evangelicals, most of whom think homosexuality is immoral. In the same way, Donnie McClurkin must speak the same language of his ardent supporters. Otherwise both Obama and McClurkin will lose their popularity and fame. So I suspect that neither is truly speaking from their hearts but simply telling the majority what they want to hear. Isn't life "safer" that way? The most courageous in this world stand up for what they believe in and usually fall from grace for doing the right thing.

As a very proud African-American gay man, I was deeply sadden and appalled by singer Donny McClurkin comments about our sexual identity. I do not believe that being gay is a choice as the singer has stated. He is however a fine example of the work that all of us must continue to do in educating those who are misinformed and/or use the bible as a weapon against us.

Regarding the Obama campaign, I continue to stand by him with my campaign contributions and will definitely vote for him in the primary.

The most important matter for me is to remove the Republicans from the Whitehouse and bring back a moderate to progressive leadership to America.

God bless our troops who SHOULD NOT be in Iraq. May they be safe from harm. God bless our America!

It’s rather ironic that people who often suffer the most from bigotry and prejudice turn out to be the most bigoted and intolerant. It’s been my experience that black Americans are the most xenophobic, homophobic, and intolerant group of people that I have come across since living in this country. So it does not surprise me that Obama does not find offensive to associate himself with that “Rev” McClurkin – incidentally, I am a black guy.

The quote: "Love the sinner, hate the sin", was actually made by Gandhi and is nowhere found in the Bible.

But yes, the Bible instructs Christians in that we should love our neighbor despite whatever they may think, say or do in life. The Bible teaches us that the Christian should love others because of God's love toward us.

And the fact remains that homosexuality is a sin, that tends to be controversial and frowned upon by our American culture yet it remains true nonetheless. Unlike many would have us to believe there are such things as truth in life. This just happens to be true as well. Whether or not the culture agrees with it, whether or not naysayers may believe it is inconsequential.

Homosexuality is not a choice. You can choose not to have sex, but the attraction is not a choice. I am particularly saddened that the black community – in large numbers – continues to justify their ignorance and bigotry toward the gay community with a bible that has so often throughout history been used to justify discrimination and bigotry toward them – from Slavery to black and white marriage, for example. It is not okay to say, "love the sinner – hate the sin" anymore than it would be justifiable for me to say love the black man – hate the fact that he married a white woman. Stop using the bible to justify ignorance! When the oppressed become the oppressor it is not progress.

my mother and i met hillary at grand central, years ago, when she was campaigning for senator – the thing i remember most was that she didn't allow her security detail to be anywhere close to her – so when people came from the street [the backside of the station] once you walk right in, she was RIGHT there to shake your hand – she's actually beautiful in person – on pictures she appears wrinkled and cracked .. not the case, very elegant and poised woman. so, we go to shake her hand and she has this utter sad/weary countenance but yet very lively – she touched my heart that day – i never cared much for her before but after that moment i can understand what a heavy burden she'll be carrying if she should be elected but am certain she is the one to get things in somewhat, back to shape, in the u.s. she's a woman so she's sensitive to many things but stern enough to rule – plus, her hubby can help her out with restoring the economy as it was when he was in office – hence why all women should vote for her Obama just rubs me the wrong way. He looks like he will fire any and everyone that may disagree with him – he just looks volitile – plus, he supports Donnie whom I absolutely LOATH so, it's quite clear who I'm not voting for. Anyway, with all this gay this and that, I think the best thought for anything in life is "do you" don't bother about personal choices of others, you'll only have yours to account for … everyone stay blessed

The Flying Spaghetti Monster just told me that McClurkin is still gay.

He didn't tell me how He knew, and I didn't ask Him.

I am a straight white man but have believed instinctively, since I was a young man, that sexuality is not a choice. As an adult I realized that those that think sexuality is a choice do so out of a need to rationalize what they have been taught by religion – or by others – and have long believed.

Amazingly, black people were long considered less than human in our nation and entitled to less than human treatment that included slavery, lynching, and segregation. There were no doubt many who found justification for that treatment in their holy books.

Unfortunately, there are still many Americans, white, black and others, who find justification in religion for treating the GLBT community as less than human.

The primary example of this is the issue of Gay marriage. Marriage is both religious and civil. The civil portion grants a great many rights and benefits. For government to deny a civil right to members of the GLBT community would violate America's commitment to equal justice under the law.

It is very disappointing that none of the major candidates for President of the United States has the courage to stand up for equal justice under the law in this matter. Unfortunately, there are still not a majority of Americans who accept that either and politicians want to win.

Barack Obama really does represent change. He is change. It cannot be ignored that his being an African American would, in and of itself, be a message of change in America and throughout the world.

Hillary, being a woman, also offers change but it doesn't feel as revolutionary because we have already experienced what she and Bill have been like in the White House, so there is not the usual fear of the unknown that normally accompanies change and accompanies Barack's campaign.

Still, change on this matter can only come when society is ready and that requires society to talk, like on this thread, and reconsider its past positions.

That brings me to the current controversy. If every candidate must vet every supporter for all their views before accepting their support, candidates will have little time for anything else.

What is important is what the candidate believes and he has made his views clear. Unlike Ronald Reagan, who sought the support of segregationists with code terms like "state's rights," Barack has left no doubt that he believes that sexuality is not a choice.

Given that, and given the reality that America is still evolving on this subject, we should applaud Barack's stance, speak up for what we believe is right, and give both him and/or Hillary an electorate they can lead forward.

it boils down to: are you a christian of the old or new testament? if you follow the latter then you'll understand that jesus loves you. period. if the former, then you'll certainly have battles before you as you will continually search for 'healing' and unfortunately, will never find.

This will be great to watch!

If Obama supports McCurkin's comments, that homosexuality is a choice (AKA, "a sin")–ahem, for the sake of getting votes from the "74 percent of South Carolina African-Americans [who] believe homosexuality is unacceptable," then Obama has lost my vote…and countless others!

Hmmmm, let me remind you of the huge percent of South Carolina whites who thought slavery was fine!

Sheesh! Any intelligent human being knows that homosexuality is not a choice, anymore than choosing the color of your skin!

Homosexuality is a choice caused by a mental dificiency. Any homosexual who thinks otherwise was born with a birth defect. While he may know how to balance his checkbook, he is just as abnormal as a person with Downs Syndrome. Downs persons are not given custody of children. Neither should homosexuals be given custody of same.

Why is it that so called 'Christians' always run like scared rabbits when some very succinct questions are posed them?

They just find it impossible to answer without quoting some 'babblical' passages.

Grow up and start using your OWN brains.

Explain what 'god' is ………..hint…its not a man or woman …….its a LAW. The Buddhist Law of Simultaneous Cause and Effect.

What goes around comes around.

And if your country continues to kill other human beings for nothing your whole country is going to suffer some very severe karmic retribution.

YOU can pray to your Jayzus all day long and it won't change a thing,,,,why> Becuase its a BS fairytale story.

I'm don't believe in a Christian/Muslim god in the same way I don't believe there is an invisible elephant living in my backyard. However, let's put homosexuality into perspective for you religious types.

Here are the 7 deadly sins

lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride

homosexuality doesn't make the list. I don't see any organized Biblical campaigns against any of these except for maybe Huckabee's fitness statements as pertain to gluttony.

Homosexuality is #11 in the 70 Major sins in Islam after

1. Associating anything with Allah
2. Murder
3. Practicing magic
4. Not praying
5. Not paying Zakat
6. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse
7. Not performing Hajj while able to do so
8. Disrespect to parents
9. Abandoning relatives
10. Fornication and Adultery

So if you're a magic-practicing homosexual who doesn't pray, pay Zakat, go on Hajj or fast while disrespecting your parents and abandoning relatives then homosexuality is the least of your worries Islam-wise.

Why don't we here more uplifting accounts on God saving people from sloth. Hopefully that would get most us out of the forums and being productive in the real world, respecting our parents and not practicing magic.

People who believe homosexuality is a sin, not an innocent inborn trait are pre-rational, myth believers in a book written by MEN 3,000 – 2,000 years ago, when humanity had not even evolved past slavery. Jesus said not one word on the subject. True spirituality is beyond the literal belief in a book. These medieval beliefs are ruining our country. True spirituality is unconditional love for all people as they were born. It is rational and trans-rational, not myth and dogma bound.

"Homosexuals judge everything by what they do with their sex organs and Obama is letting that behavior channelize his campaign. That is a serious weakness. One point five percent of the population has Obama wrapped around their, uh, finger?"

Try more like 10%, and it's those who are against homosexuality that make it all about sex. Most homosexuals just want to be loving committed relationships, that yes do involve sex, but are not entirely composed of just that.

WHY ARE WE GIVEN THE OPTION TO POST IF IT WILL ONLY BE CENSORED? CNN EITHER YOU LET US TOTAL AND UTTER FREEDOM OR DELETE THE COMMENTS LINK!

For 2000 years the children of Jesus have been lead astray from the message of Jesus by their own false profits and preachers. All for their own financial and political greed.

They have corrupted his words and his message of hope and peace and love and tolerance to the point that were Jesus himself to re-appear today on earth he would be reviled by Christians. He would be called a "liberal", a "humanist" and a lover of sin. He would eventually be recognized by Christians as the Antichrist himself, and he would once again be crucified for his love.

What Would Jesus Do? He would start a whole new religion, for the one that bears his name has nothing left to do with him

"Would it be okay to excuse a man from womanizing because he was "born with a high libido"?
– — –
Ask the "family values" right-wing about why they continue to support Sen. David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, Sen. Henry Hyde, Sen. Larry Craig, mouthpiece Bill O'Reilly, and Ronald Reagan and Fred Thompson who had to marry their pregnant girlfriends.

Sheesh, the venom from some liberals, even against other Dems, is quite astonishing. "Tolerance" is the by-word, unless you happen to disagree with the politically correct dogma d'jour. Then you're labeled "intolerant" and "divisive". Absurd.

On another note, being "born gay" doesn't excuse someone from being immoral. Would it be okay to excuse a man from womanizing because he was "born with a high libido"?

Posted By Mike, Middleburg, FL : October 29, 2007 2:57 pm

What a stupid comparison! Who are you to choose what's moral or not? How about Poverty,War,Homelessness, disease,47+ million without healht care? I think they seem to be IMMORAL!

Virgin,

Obviously you are in both word and deed – Mr. Obama cannot do anything for this country!

It's interesting how Scripture is used to propagate certain agendas. How convinient that those who site Scripture to condemn homosexuality ignore the fact that racists and segregationists used the same book as an excuse for their bigotry. I appreciate that Obama wants to work with both sides and find common ground, but it's just the same old song.

If you're straight and argue that orientation is a choice…. Do you really love and lust for members of your gender the way you do for members of the opposite gender?

Newsflash, people. If your inner urges aren’t bi, there’s no choice. Not everyone can find happiness in the arms of either gender. We’re not all bi.

Rationalizations for prejudices are never pretty. Religious rationalizations are no exception.

After reading many of the comments I am astounded by how it's still okay to bash gay people. Many have commented taht this issue is stupid…great our issues are stupid. It's sad that many comments are coming from African Americans.

I will NOT be voting for Obama. I don't know who I am voting for but his complete failure on this issue and his subconscious desire (or idiot staffer whispering in his ear) drive a wedge between the two communities has turned me completely off. Oh and btw I am the kind of supporter who send money and walks precincts.

The Obama campaign has the right to schedule McClurkin in for whatever strategic benefit they feel he can bring.

It was wrong for McClurkin to selfishly and desperately use this opportunity to preach and desperately try to prove to the world that he is "changed".

Rev. McClurkin, you were invited to sing, not to preach or speak about your personal views. It was wrong for you to take advantage of this opportunity/invitation to showcase your vocal talents to create your own personal forum.

Furthermore, it is sad that when he spoke those words, the crowd cheered. It shows that our country and citizens still have a long way to go.

Sheesh, the venom from some liberals, even against other Dems, is quite astonishing. "Tolerance" is the by-word, unless you happen to disagree with the politically correct dogma d'jour. Then you're labeled "intolerant" and "divisive". Absurd.

On another note, being "born gay" doesn't excuse someone from being immoral. Would it be okay to excuse a man from womanizing because he was "born with a high libido"?

This is not a profound statement in the world. What type of physical encounters you choose to do is a choice. If you choose to use you individual right and free will to believe in God and the Bible then various sins are spoken of. I choose to look at God's word, logic and common sense and say that opposites are meant to engage physically

500 years from now human beings will have figured out that the Buybull is perhaps the biggest piece of crap book every concocted.

So called Christians even demonize humanism.

Fact is, true humanism and reason is what will save the human race, not some 'GAWD' or JAYZUS.

Ask any psychoanalyst and they will tell you some of the biggest neurotics are religion oriented in early life.

Frankly, I think parents that teach kids the Buybull crap are CHILD ABUSERS.

I don't think Obama ought to have any preachers in his entourage. The message of tolerance is befogged by this kind of thing. He is pandering to values voters in including this guy and is one more reason why I, straight and Democrat, can't vote for Obama.

There is no voting ballot that tells whether a person is homosexual or in the closet regardless of gender. Who cares if McClurkin was gay and now believes it's a choice, I don't care. What I do care about is our national security, our constitutional rights, the economic future of this country, the war and voting for the right candidate whether republican or democrat without knowing what that individuals sexual preference may be.

I love how people love to use the
historical ficiton work they call the
bible and pick and choose bits to belive.If hey belive it, and are so adament upon enforcing it upon others,
then why do they not follow it to the letter? Why are they wearing clothing with multiple types of threads, eating
shellfish and pork and not stoning to death their unruly children? They pick
and choose and justify and equivocate
their favorite bits and peices and throw out the rest.How seriously can
you take any "preacher" who's whole
livelyhood depends on how good of a
storytelling show they put on from week to week to get donations to feed
themselves and their family.They will
sell anything to keep a roof and food.
They sell fairy tales for gold.
There are pleanty of us out here that
think any attempt to justify an argument using the bible is akin
to using an Archie Comic to teach
orbital mechanics..

McKlurkin has got to be a real liar or hypocrite to say sexual orientation is a choice since he was "forced" into homosexuality when he was raped by one of his family members! Doesn't that sound contradictory and ridiculous to you all? He wasn't even a real homosexual to begin with but a victim of sexual abuse. If neo-cons and other rednecks can't differentiate rape or sexual attack from your basic sexual orientation, you've only got to blame guys like this phoney pastor!

Hillary Clinton's campaign spread this story around in hopes that people will forget her support for anti-gay laws and having a homophobic minister in SC on her payroll.

Hillary Clinton is a two-faced liar!

That nastah homosechsha-alitay. You trahd spraying it out, you trahd scrubbing it out, you trahd Shout(tm)ing it out. Now, with Missta Donnie, you can paaaaahray it out. Yassuh! I'ma vote fo' Osama Barak 2 tahms.

Pencil me in as – don't

All that is demonstrated here is that any group when give the opportunity can choose bigotry regardless of their race, sexual orientation, etc… It invalidates any claim of racism any homophobic African-American person might claim in that they choose the politics of discrimination just as quickly as any other group. god above else tells us not to judge and not to be a stumbling block to another's faith and yet look at the hate so-called "Christians" endorse.. they will be getting no sympathy from me as long as they embrace the same ideologies that they claim to be the victims of.

I have tolerance for "Bible-Based" morality, what I do not have belief in is the "Pick and Choose Bible-Based Morality" . You either believe in the Bible or you don't, so ridiculous to choose which parts you accept as moral.

All of this kinda reminds me of something! I remember reading somewhere how they picked 20 heterosexual guys. 10 with negative views on homosexuality and homosexuals and 10 who didnt have negative views regarding homosexuals and homosexuality! All of them were shown a gay porn video. What they discovered was that the arousal levels was higher amoung the "homophobes" and much lower amoung those who werent homophobic.

Something to think about!

This is what I don't understand. If you feel that I have to respect your beliefs when you say that homosexuality is a choice or a sin, then why don't you have to respect my belief that you're full of it?

You're free to believe whatever you want, but don't take away my right to think that you are wrong. Especially when it has such a distinct bearing on MY life.

I am a Gay Senior guy who grw up when segregation was accepted and justified as God's Way & Plan. The Bible was oft used to justify this with cpius quotes that "slaves shoudl obey their master" and others. Now the black community is returning the favor with its homophobia. If gay is wrong, so are laws against slavery and misengenation. Either accept the whole bible or none.

For those telling gay people to "stay out of politics" or to "get over it–not everyone is going to like you," I'd be glad to. Show me equal rights and leave me and my partner in peace, and I will get over it. It's not my choice to continue this fight; it's my obligation. Hate me all you want. News flash: I don't care. As long as you don't physically hurt me or my family, you can talk about me and my "sin" all you like. You don't have to accept me, because you know what? I don't accept your fairy tales. The difference is that my government has imposed your warped agenda on me, a law-abiding and tax-paying citizen, and it has forced me and my allies to fight back. Justice will prevail and you are bound to lose. So YOU go away.

McClurkin's insistence that homosexuality is a choice makes my stomach turn. I have been hearing that lie for nearly 70 years now, and I've had enough. Right, it's a choice, like having blue eyes is a choice, or being left handed. They actually used to punish kids in school for writing with their left hands! There is no sin in being who you were born. No one has a right to an opinion, pro or con, about anyone else's innate reality. That, in my opinion, is the real sin, because it justifies hate in the name of religion and endangers people's lives. Mine, for instance.
Maybe Mr. McClurkin can repress his feelings, but if he truly had been gay, so long as he does so he will never have an authentic love relationship with another human being. And I do I mean love, not sex.
People think being gay is all about having sex, but it is not. There would still be gay people if sex didn't even exist. Gay people can't form deep affectional ties with the opposite sex in the way that straight people can. It is a very complex issue. It is certainly not a choice or a sin, and passing misinformation and lies about it is certainly not a virtue.
Promoting this kind of dangerous nonsense to get votes makes it clear to me that Obama would make equally poor choices in the name of expedience as president. Ignorance is not bliss, it's destructive and dangerous.

Here are my two cents! If you feel like you have to tell everybody that you are ok or "cured" you most likely really arent!!

So I assume McClurkin chose to have these gay feelings in the first place?

"The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as final clinching proof of the nonexistence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "but," says man, "the babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Proof denies faith," anything that proof can deny is unreal and unfounded. I know this is from a work of fiction, but as a literature scholar, the bible, the koran and any other religious text is too. c'mon, we stop believing in Santa when we reach the supposed age of rationality. Why can't we move past the guy in the sky who will hate you forever if you do what he made you to do? Again I say… "GROW UP!"

there are a lot of things to consider here. one, McClurkin seems (seemed) bi-curious more than anything. who's to say he doesn't still feel those desires or even act on them in private. he wouldn't be the first "man of the cloth" to lie about it.
second, it has been proven that homosexuality is not a choice, it's genetic. no matter how much you pray it will still be there.
third, not everything in the bible is the direct word of God. in the ancient world they used the fear of God to make people stop having sex with animals and the same sex among other things. man put these such rules in the book of God. to take the literal word in a book full of parables and written by man is irresponsible. besides, who are any of us to judge someone. it's up to that person and God. third parties are out of the picture.

This so called "Reverend" is just like most of the charlatans that fleece the flock.

They are preachers because is an easy buck…….they are in fact EVIL.

Tax all these scum and I am also fed up with warmongering Christians that worry about fetuses but could care less about human beings who have actually been born.

Listen up you idiot American Christiands…..if your Jesus is coming back he will going to be highley ticked off.

Ricardo, NY -

You have taken it a bit to far with your perverted sense of humor – that is not funny! Actually it attest to your ignorance!

Since so many here believe (as though they have PROOF) that one's sexuality is a choice, tell me … when do you CHOOSE to be a heterosexual?

I personally don't believe it, but if this worked FOR HIM and he's not putting others down, what is the issue?

Sexuality is a deeply personal issue no matter where you fall on the spectrum. Why is it our business what he's doing??

People need to stop judging just to make your case stronger. If it worked for him, fine. Let it be and stop putting your beliefs in the front of the line…

Because of this event, I NO LONGER SUPPORT BARACK OBAMA. He is a two-faced liar to the GLBT community and should NOT be trusted.

I personally don't believe it, but if this worked FOR HIM and he's not putting others down, what is the issue?

Sexuality is a deeply personal issue no matter where you fall on the spectrum. Why is it our business what he's doing??

People need to stop judging just to make your case stronger. If it worked for him, fine. Let it be and stop putting your beliefs in the front of the line…

McClurkin for President!

Maybe so but I STILL WOULDN'T LEAVE HIM ALONE WITH MY SON, PERIOD! OR MY DAUGHTER EITHER!

MY RIBS ARE SPLITTING FROM LAUGHTER

"The Reverend says Christ is love but he still comes in the back door"

Stop, you're killing me. It's like Open Mike Night at the asylum.

Posted By J.Crobuzon : October 29, 2007 12:48 pm

I hate to add to the generalizations here, but: Why does the African American community seem to be so homophobic?

All this homophobia does is keep black (and other) gay people in the closet and lowers their self-esteem. Only an extremely self-loathing man would say something as moronic and impossible as, "I've been cured of homosexuality."

Homophobes claim that gay people are "hurting God"; but by actively speaking out against gay people they are hurting other actual people! It amazes me that they miss the irony here. It's about as ironic as pro-lifers who won't even back a children's healthcare bill.

Homosexuality is not a choice, for the most part. And everyone knows and possibly loves a gay person, whether they know it or not.

Senator Obama is the same as all other modern day politicians. They rely on pundits and pollsters to find out where everyone wants to go, then they campaign to drive the bus.

Not since Bobby Kennedy has this country produced a leader who truly wants to LEAD. Our 2008 choices for leader of the free world once again boil down to trying to figure out who is the best bus driver. Obama may have moved closer to the front of the bus in a lot of people's minds because of his pandering to anti-gay Christians, but at the end of the day, he's just a candidate for bus driver.

The whole CHOICE arguement is absurd.

Who the heck whould CHOOSE to be hated, discriminated against, have less civil rights, be unable to marry, have few laws to protect them, to sometimes be cut off by family or friends, unwelcome in their church community, to serve in the military and be maimed or injured yet be dishonrably discharged when you declare who you are…and to hear the kind of rhetoric that is all over this blog.

No gay or lesbian person I know made the "choice" to be gay. The only "choice" they made was to come out – and face all the obstaceles I've mentioned above. Humbley, I believe it is one courageous and honest choice.

The message of LOVE you refer to also is a message of obedience. You cannot have one without the other. In Ephesians 5:11, it states, "Have Nothing to do with the doers of iniquity but rather EXPOSE them". The reason is not to judge but to expose the sin.

Without the truth, there is NO Conviction.
Without Conviction there is no Repentance.
Without Repentance there is no Reconciliation.
Without Reconciliation there is no SALVATION.

So tell me, who is the one showing Christ’s Love. The one ignoring those trapped in sin OR the one trying to rescue them from an eternity separated from GOD???

Wi

I've been active with the gay rights movement for years, so I know what I am talking about.

It is downright impossible for a presidential candidate to win the general election without at least some votes from anti-gay people.

If something thinks I am wrong, please show me some polling results that show otherwise.

What does Hillary plan to do next fall? Should she say that if you don't support gay people, than I don't want your vote? If she actually says that, I will support her. She probably won't though, and I wouldn't expect her to.

YOU SHEEETED: "People are born perverted – true. People are even born idiots – true dat. But people being born homosexual is like saying unicorns exist! Get real – sexual orientation – is a choice.
Posted By Unicorns-dont-exist! : October 29, 2007 9:21 am "

by that logic we can now safely assert, by the contradiction below, that one IS born gay

Deuteronomy 33:17 (King James Version)

17His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

The power of the Media! It is amazing at how many comments have been issued on this issue. Why does the major Gay Organizations come out so strongly against Donnie M. and Barack O.? McClurkin simply stated his opinion and his own personal testament involving homosexuality. I believe based on my experience that many heterosexual people believe homosexuality is a choice. Somehow we in America are afraid to openly speak about the power of choice in all aspects of our lives. I applaud McClurkin's openness (as a man of faith) in letting his views be known and Obama should not have to disavow McClurkin's opinions as his own.

Did it ever occur to any of you who denounce homosexuals and homosexuality that Christ's message was one of love and acceptance, not judgement and hatred? In fact, Christ never said one thing about homosexuality. Not one thing.

And do any of you remember that passage in the Bible, Mormon 8:20? It reads "…man shall not smite, neither shall he judge; for judgement is mine, saith the Lord…"

Just thought I'd remind all of you.

Homosexuality is not a choice!!!! Why would anyone choose to be gay? Do heterosexuals choose to be straight? Instead of praying for us sinners, McClurkin should pray he doesn't get arrested in a bathroom stall.

I do not believe that McClurkin's inclusion in this concert was some Rove-like strategy to court black voters because prior to this incident
the African American community viewed McClurkin as a great gospel singer not a symbol of anti-gay sentiment. I support Senator Obama, but I would not have included McClurkin in the concert. However, when I am campaigning here in Iowa, I always tell people that I may not agree with everything Senator Obama does, but I trust him as a leader who can bring our nation together.

I am sick of blacks saying to gays don't compare our discrmination to yours. As though blacks have some kind of monopoly on discrimination. Yes, you were enslaved, and endured jim crow. BUT discrimination against gays is thousands of years older than racial discrimination in this country. And gays were and continue to be killed for who they are genetically. So, perhaps our's plight is indeed more dire than what's happened to blacks…so perhaps the comparison isn't warranted…but that's so not because blacks have been treated worse, but because gays have been and continue to be treated worse.

CNN keeps Censoring the Truth! 8th Post that has been censored by the Liberal Left !!

I applaud Rev. Donnie McClurkin for his courage to profess his Deliverance from Homosexuality! Amen and AMEN!

Sin has a consequence that ALL should be aware of…

Read Carefully: http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?id=28434

For the Censors at CNN, Stop the hypocrisy! This is a forum of supporting and apposing views – which should NOT be bridled!

The only sin against God is to speak for Him, as in "God wills this or that" (even if we are quoting the Bible).

For me, that is what really uses the Name in vain. How can anyone know the will of God? Because it's preached or printed in a book?

All the real sins are against our brothers & sisters.

This is Senator Obama’s John McCain moment and end of his Presidential bid.

I was a strong supporter of Senator Obaman until he embraced Rev. Donnie McClurkin in a manner similar to Senator McCain’s embrace of Jerry Falwell.

You can’t be on both sides of an issue. You have to make a stand and support it. I thought the Senator was this man after having read his book “Audacity of Hope” but realize he is just like every other politician pandering to whims and prejudice.

My vote will now go to Senator Clinton.

Jeez, you bible thumpers are just plain ignorant. I will never understand why you focus with laser like precision on someone's sexual orientation. The bible speaks more about social justice and poverty issues than homosexuality, but when was the last time you harped on that?

The LGBT community has every right to be upset by this re-closeted pastor's statements. Bigotry in any form MUST not be tolerated. If this man had made statements about a particular race or religion not being up to par, there would have been an uproar about it.

If the man wants to slink back into the closet, that is fine, but he doesn't have the right to encourage hateful attitudes and bigotry towards the rest of the LGBT community.

The American Taliban Bible Thumper League would get along well with the zealots in Iran as they share the same disdain for gays.

Pastor McClurkin's comments is supported by all born again believers in the Nations not just African Americans, Not only in America but world wide. If God before you Pastor Donnie, and I know God is for you standing on his word; who can win against you!!! People God loves the sinner, God loves the homosexual, and has made a plan for you to be free. You have a choice whether you want to be free, and if Pastor McClurkin chooses to be free through Christ, why are you hating on him. Focus on the election and what Obama can do for our nation.

I'm glad I was a Christian before the Bible-thumping hate-mongers came out of the woodwork. Nothing in their vindictive and bigoted diatribe could have convinced me of the love, mercy and salvation that are found in Jesus Christ and His message.

Keep religion out of politics, period! Your religious views do not dictate the policies of this government. And for Obama to invite McClurkin is like a Jew inviting Hitler to dinner. Furthermore, all you religous nutjobs: You do not get to "hate the sin and not the sinner." You do not have the right to separate those parts of anyone anymore than someone separating "you" from your like of religion.

this is just a way for mcclurkin to come out of the closet and feel safe that his homophobic friends and fans won't disown him. all he's saying is, "i'm gay" and now if he gets caught, he'll have their sympathy rather than their wrath. it's not a noble way at all to conduct your true nature.

PASTOR MCCLURKIN FOR PRESIDENT

Perhaps if the Homosexual comunity would stop shoving themselves into the populations face, there would be more tolerance. I for one cannot stand seeing two same sex people being afectionate in public, Just as most people cannot stand watching a hetro sexualcouple be affectionate. The addage of Get a Room actually bears truth in the matter.
I am against Gay marriages, as a marriage is for couples who have a remote chance of bearing the fruit of a family. But a civil union is fine, Gays should be penalized for loving just like hetrosexuals. I have been reconsidering my views for a long time, but still come to the same conclusion, If you must be gay, at least you can't procreate. Now go back to your rooms…

As a former right-wing evangelical who battled my homosexuality for years within the church, I can truly say that McClurkin does not know what he is talking about! YOU CAN'T CHANGE! IT'S NOT A CHOICE! If he has been "delivered" as he says, he was never Gay to begin with. If he is Gay, give it time because he will eventually go the way of Foley, Haggards and yes, Larry Craig. Stay tuned. And as for Obama, his insensitivity towards the gay community is astounding and I will no longer support him!

Yeah, right. It's only a matter of time before we hear about this guy having a "wide stance" in a public bathroom somewhere…

Dear Lucille Bell, I think the reason gays to don't keep their mouths shut is because unlike theives, rapist, and murderers, we're just honest, law abiding (notice the big difference there) Americans trying to live out our lives openly, and without persecution. And to be constantly hammered in public (even if not personally, by name) is just too much to just sit by and let it happen.

Also, be careful in judging Obama. Because afterall, do you think that you're hatred of homosexuals is going to get you into Heaven?

If you hadn't tried to compare the gripes of homosexuals to the non-gripes of murderers, theives, etc., I wouldn't had responded to your post. But there is big difference between being Gay, and being say, Charles Manson.

Let both sides of this venomous debate show a little compassion for Rev McClurkin. He apparently has had homosexual fantasies (who doesn't?) and perhaps some homosexual contacts if not relationships – though that is really none of our business. Unfortuntately for him, he also believes that God condemns homosexuals to Hell. Millions of Americans have pretty much the same opinion. It would be a difficult thing to want one thing more than any other (we all know how intense sexual desire can be), but to also believe that an infinity of unending torture would be his fate if he yielded to temptation. I can imagine the guilt and shame that the poor man has endured.

Let us imagine a future science fiction society in which reproduction was achieved in laboratory vats and sex between men and women was forbidden by law and anyone practicing it would be imprisoned and then shunned for life, much as pedaphiles are now. I don't know if I would make it through my entire adulthood without hitting on some good-looking, sweet-smelling, smart-thinking, irresistable woman (of whom millions are walking around me all the time).

If this man says he has conquered his demons, so what? Does his vision of human nature differ from ours? Maybe. Is his theology different than ours? Maybe.

Everyone who posts to this list has assured us of his or her tolerant nature, but if that is tolerance then I don't want any of it myself. As Abraham Lincoln famously said, "If this is coffee, bring me some tea. If this is tea, bring me some coffee."

All you folks living your lives based on the bible are really gonna regret it when you die and that's the end of it. There is no eternal home waiting for you. (If you could think after you die, you'd probably be thinking you wasted your entire life on a fictional book) I read the book cinderella and I know for a fact, (because the book says so) that a pumpkin will turn into a coach. Mice will turn into horses and dogs will turn into coachman. Why are you laughing, a book said it happened so it must be true!

Aren't there more serious issues we should be discussing? To gays: get over it, there will always be people that don't like you. To the anti-gays: why the heck do you care about 2 people that want to be with each other? Geez, get a life!

"The Reverend says Christ is love but he still comes in the back door"

Stop, you're killing me. It's like Open Mike Night at the asylum.

for those of you who don't get it, i know you still won't after this, but i have to say your arguments against the intolerance of your intolerance is so pathetically stupid and ridiculous that you should really just bite your ignorant tongues. why is it so often so impossible to educate the so ignorant? anyone should be able to see that knowledge makes apparent what religion's blind faith distorts for its own selfish purposes. may you truly understand someday.

But if your homosexual – isnt that the way God made you ? So not being gay- is against gods wishes ? – maybe he is predestined for hell anyway. – Gee- isnt religon retarded? Obama would say he's gay if the majority of the voters were gay.

I fell that the Gay and Lesbian comunity needs to back off and stay out of politics, just the same as religious entities need to stay out of politics. What people do behind the closed doors of a church or thier bedroom, is thier own business. Sin is Sin, and is does not matter if is a tolerated issues.
I do not discriminate, I have many friends who are homosexuals, and of varying religions and races. I do not preach to anyone that you must become straight or convert, It is however a CHOICE that can be made, just as Love or fiendship is a Choice to be made. Be it concious or subconcious YOU make the choices that promote or deny these things.
Just as you must be stong of mind to maintain a marriage, you must be stong of mind to remove yourselves from sin. If you choose to be or do, Love or otherwise, it will become you.

Why do the homosexual community always have to make a statement. When pastor preach about liars, murders, adulters, fornicators,etc . You don't hear them telling politians you have to seperate yourself from that preacher. We liars are not going to support you because we are offend that he said we are sinning and going to hell for lying. And the same thing for other sinners that God speaks about in the bible. Murders, theives, fornicators, & adulters. But the attention they seek goes along with the spirit that has attached itself to this sin. I hope obama knows that what God has for him is for him and no group of lobbist or anyone else will be able to stop it.

For those who want to keep espousing there Godly beliefs about homosexuality, remember this: While the United States of America may have been founded on religious beliefs, it was also founded on freedom of religion. Which means that even the biggest athiest, not to mention homosexual, is entitled to their rights as an American. I think the reason the gay movement has gotten so big is because so many straight conservatives have forgotten this. They're so busy trying to deny basic American rights to people they hate (while trying to claim to be Christians at the same time), that they don't realize that they're fueling their own fire. And since when did God, or Jesus, give a Christian, or anyone else, the right to force his word onto people?

Granted, we need laws to deal with those who bring undo harm to people. But what two consenting adults do with each other is between them, and God. And no, they are not the ones destroying the morality of this country.

"Love the sinner, hate the sin" is the new dog whistle code for homophobia… it seems that for many people, some sinners are more "lovable" than others… when adulterers are prevented from serving in the military and marrying whomever they choose based solely upon their "sin", perhaps it will ring true… for now? Not so much…

Political manipulation for votes; Obama is using his skin-color to dredge up support for his failing campaign. Nothing religious or faith-based about political maneuvering, he's just doing whatever it takes as long as it's good for him. He's same-old, same-old. This has nothing to do with homosexuality, just his bs ambition. This jerk does not deserve to be in office.

The Reverend says Christ is love but he still comes in the back door; "there is a side of Christ that deals in judgment, and all sin is against God." So, to sum it up, he means to be who you are sexually is a sin if you happen to live honestly as a self-realized homosexual. Of course, if you think you all have chosen your own sexual orientation God will punish you for lying. It is not a choice people! I'm so sorry Obama has aligned himself with this misguided man, big mistake! And as for the Reverend, to even make this an issue is prejudice and intolerance of ones very essence, it is against God.

Rev. McClurkin and the Rev. Ted Haggard…both gay men caught in the wicked web of a dogma of hate and law-minded twisted gospel.
They'd make a nice little coupling.
–And I'd feel sorry for these confused crazed religious bigots–if their preachings weren't so dangerous to so many others. All his religion has done for MClurkin is force him to deny himself and live a lie.
Shame on Obama. Hillary–you have my vote.

This is *not* just a comment on his personal experience. How hard is it to figure out that when someone who says God has "delivered" him from homosexuality, he's asserting that it's something vile from which one must be delivered? This is hate propaganda, disguised as "Christianity." I've got no intention of voting for Obama if he continues to promote this point of view.

Why is homosexuality EVEN a "political" issue? It's an issue because of religious folk who, rightly or wrongly, condemn it. Let's not forget on which principles this country was founded, and what is one of the important points of the first amendment- SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE.

An ignorant man supporting an ignorant man!
I wonder if they were lovers and God told them to work together and save America.
I'm gay and I find Obama to be a real fool to believe that a gay person can be turned straight, this is as ignorant as saying god can turn a black man white!!!
If god saved him why didn't god stop the Iraq war that is killing 1,000's of god's kids.
Who is god and can he make me stop biting my nails?

McClurkin is dead wrong, speak for yourself sir but don't hash out the judgement that all that are homosexual are sinners for it just since you see things thru your eyes – the world is bigger than all of you on here.

cmon people, stop poking your noses in other peoples lives, we all have the right to live free and prosperous, and that includes free from judgement by small minded hypocrites like McClurkin, he will answer for those comments one day.

bb in Eagle, PA

You seem to be a bit confused, it is not the homosexual population that believe it is a choice. It is the 'straight' folks who don't have aclue that insist it's a choice.

This is the problem with this country. We put aside our beliefs to get ahead. When God will exalt us in due season. Rev. Donnie is not ashamed of the gospel and will not compromise himself for anyone. That is a real man of God. You can't be homosexual and preach the gospel. That contradicts the Bible. You can't pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to obey. Personally I am happy someone is taking a stand for what is morally right and holy.

Posted By Nina Cleveland Milwaukee Wisconsin : October 29, 2007 11:46 am

hey Nina…Educate yourself dear on Women's past ie: 1908 to 1920! The Women's Suffrage Movement was fought against by MEN, and Religious Institutions..who USED the Buy-Bull to argue that Women should NOT have a say in Gov't ie: NO VOTING & 2nd class citizenship. Women were told to stay home, Listen to thier husbands/obey and have babies like GOD intended. Hows that? Nice huh..? The Buy-Bull has been used to KEEP MANY PEOPLE odnw throughout human history! EDUCATE YOURSELF hon, and STOP being an Emabarrassment to the Women who FOUGHT for your RIGHTS!

I have a (serious) question for the posters who believe that homosexuality is a choice. This is hard for me to comprehend, since I have never wanted to have sex with another woman, so I never had to "choose". I just liked men–no conflict, no temptation to overcome.
Perhaps some of you who believe in the choice could share your stories of being drawn to same-sex relationships, and your resulting conflict and struggle to become straight.
I don't question your belief– I simply have never met anyone who made the "choice" you all believe in.

A bigger "sin" than being gay or lesbian is gluttony and greed, which this country is full of!!
Gay means that you don't have to hide behind the Bologna curtain!!! Come out cowards!!!

Speaking as a gay man, this man is a hypocritical liar. You cannot switch sides. I'm currently conducting a research paper on natur or nurture and every journal states that you are born gay, you don't become gay. Oh wait, there is one that says you choose to be gay, but it's a religious journal so of course it's going to be biased. All of you straight people out there ask yourself a question. Have you ever thought about being with someone of the same sex. If you can say yes, then you may have an argument on it being a choice. If you say no, then that means you were born straight. How can you argue with that. Religion has no place in this world. It causes hate and war and has for centuries. We must first erase religion if we really want world peace.

This is the problem with this country. We put aside our beliefs to get ahead. When God will exalt us in due season. Rev. Donnie is not ashamed of the gospel and will not compromise himself for anyone. That is a real man of God. You can't be homosexual and preach the gospel. That contradicts the Bible. You can't pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to obey. Personally I am happy someone is taking a stand for what is morally right and holy.

Is being straight a choice? Do straight men wake up everyday and wonder whether or not they want to sleep with a guy today? I don't think so.

Saying gay people are gay by choice is nothing more than a cheap shot by a straight person who doen't have a leg stand on. And no, the Bible is not a leg to stand on. Also, a leg is not these studies that 'prove' homosexuality is a choice. I mean, if you're not using truth serum on these people (in your studies), then anyone trying to fit in with society are going to lie. Plus, these studies are probably indeed 'stacked' with known bisexuals, thus almost guaranteeing a preferred end result.

I have a rule of thumb: if it's controversial (and homosexuality is controversial), then don't believe everything you read, even if does support your own pre-conceived notions.

I learned the above lesson after studying the JFK assassination. Because while conspiracists have a habit of stretching the truth, so do lone nut believers. In other words, they both cover up the facts that would weaken their case, which is not so far removed what continues to happen with the case of homosexuality, and whether it's a choice or not.

Show your intelligence. If you're straight, don't just assume homosexuality is a choice, just because someone, or something, told you it was. Afterall, would you buy a bridge from someone, just because they say they owned it?

"Going back to the old, bad ways of the Old Testament is going against both Jesus and God. So, as a Christian, you should follow the teachings of JESUS, not a lot of old Jewish stuff. If you want to be "Old Testament" then convert to Judaism.
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So we no longer have to hear about the Ten Commandments, Noah's ark, and that evolution is wrong?

A choice. Amen, brother.

Daniel, I'm not ready to write Obama off yet. He said earlier that he preferred to confront issues rather than evade them, and that he would debate or otherwise confront foreign leaders instead of flee them as Bush does. Look at this debate as evidence that Obama is looking at the issues.

Bye bye Richardson, bye bye Obama.

Ever hear of Sean Kennedy, probably not. He is an 20 year old South Carolina man killed in a recent gay bashing. THIS is the reason that the gay community is up in arms —homophobia kills. South Carolina is one of five states that has no hate crime law. If you put a man on the bill that represents redemtion from homosexuality you are validating the position that being gay is curable — and you are inspiring people to continue to hate one another. If we've learned anything over the last 7 years it is that "homosexuality" is a lightening rod. Why would Obama use this same ol' tired song to court voters?

Barack was my choice until this display of political pandering. If he seriously wanted to leave this man on the bill he should have countered it with an open dialogue about homosexuality and this issues gay people face in the African American community, He could have used this event as a teachable moment – even giving time to reparitive thereapy pointing out that some gays and lesbians ARE gay but don't WANT TO BE gay – and that is their choice. Instead, Brack let the entire HUMAN community down by fanning the flames of hatred and homophobia

Any man or woman who intends to lead this country needs to do more than promote disinformation using devisive rhetoric. He/She needs to go the extra mile to bring peole together, not continue to tear them apart.

To Annonomous whimp!

Yes, Norman is Gay. You can keep spreading your hate and get excited by calling me a 'homo'.

You too my weak minded and spined friend are also a 'homo'.

I am going to use a big word here, so take off your HOOD and get out the dictionary.

Are you a HOMOSAPIEN? HOMOSEXUAL? or HOMOIGNORAMIS?

Keep making you and your type look as ignorant as the old south. I am sure you probably wish Slavery was still in fashion as well as women shouldn't drive or vote and blacks should not drink from the same water fountains and be allowed to go to the same schools as whites.

Your ignorance is only fuel to educate the masses as to the effects of unfettered racism, discrimination and hatred regardless of the intended target.

Stand up America! Stand up for those who are being treated as less than equal.

Hey Randy,
Us heteros' didnt have to make a choice we are naturally born that way. Natures intent is for survival of life. So I guess if it were natural to be gay then men could reproduce, and women wouldnt need anyting from men to reproduce, thus insuring the survival of the species. As it turns out men and women need each other. With that being said if you are gay, good Im glad that makes you happy, but to be truly tolerant, you need to tolarate intolerance. Grow up if someone doesnt like you who cares that is their right. I hate how PC we are to were everyone has to like everyone else, I reserve the right to not like you for what ever reason, however that doesnt mean I wont respect you.

A bigot is a bigot is a bigot is a bigot.

THE BIGGEST PHOBES ARE USUALLY THE BIGGEST MO'S!!

THE LADY DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH…

It's funny how the loudest Anti-Gay people we all went to school with inevitably turned out to be the Gay one!

Thank god for a free press. Now we know how Mr. Obama truly feels about our oppressed brothers and sisters, and has sealed his political loss for the nomination.

If we have learned anything during six years of Bush, it is that we must act, strongly and quickly, to root out bigotry, hatred and appeasement when we find it. Mr. Obama has disappointed Americans who dreamed that he might be a candidate of truth and justice. But he is not; he has revealed that he stands for pandering and the denial of civil rights to Americans. Shame.

HATE THE HATERS and LOVE ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS.

STOP USING RELIGION AS A TOOL TO SPREAD HATRED, DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLENCE.

IT IS WRONG. PERIOD.

JESUS NEVER COMPROMISED THE SCRIPTURE – YOU ARE A LIAR – AND – THE TRUTH IS NOT IN YOU! : )

I'd like to know more about Reverend McGurkin's sexual experiences.

At what point in his life did he 'Choose' to begin to have sex with MEN?

When he was having SEX with MEN, did he enjoy it?

Did he too get caught in the act like the other Ministers, Priests, Reverends, and Republican Senators???

It's amazing how everyone finds God or Rehab when they get caught with their pants down.

These HATE SPEWING HYPOCRITES are your spiritual and Political leaders.

Maybe it's time to quit being lead around by hypocrits and time to just accept your neighbor for who they are and enjoy the world that God made for everyone.

Julie Green states: "I understand what it is like to struggle with homosexual thoughts. I too, believe it is wrong and I am glad that he is standing up for what he believes in. I think it is great that Mc Clurkin was able to be free from homosexuality."

I too appreciate whenever someone finds their true self. But the fact that God delivered McClurkin from his homosexuality, doesn't mean that God does this for everyone.

God creates all kinds of people. Homosexuality may not always be a choice. For instance, God obviously creates hermaphrodites, or people with both sex organs. They didn't make a choice to be that way.

So the Bible may be wrong in condemning homosexuals. It sure was wrong that epilepsy is demon possession.

And let's not lose track of Jesus, who embraced the downtrodden and outcasts of his day, even if it meant breaking with scripture.

Harold

I am saddened that Obama could not stand by his initial choice to solely use Donnie McClurkin and not add any other gay preacher/pastor to the roster. You can not please all the people all the time. Take a position and defend that position and people will respect you because you took a stand.
Donnie McClurkin can only speak on his personal experience and give an honest answer. Often gay people are the first to get upset when someone voices their opinion but would like for everyone to respect their alternative lifestyle. Give me a break. God is the only one that can judge. Do the research and study so you will be in the will of God.

The term "deliverance" in religious use describes the process by which a person, believed to be under the control of an evil supernatural entity called a demon, is set free – delivered – from the control of that demon.

Is THIS what you mean happened? Are Homosexuals "demon possessed?

So….all you who are claiming to be "delivered"…..are you celebate? Are you married? Do you have 0% homosexual thoughts now? Anything less than 100% on these is NOT Biblical deliverance.

I love how all you Bible Thumpers are so well educated about choosing to be gay.

Have you chosen to be straight?

You would think that with so many countries around the world already past this ignorant and hateful stage in our development, that we as the supposed LAND of the FREE, would realize that to legislate hate is unacceptable in ANY TERMS.

You would REALLY believe that African Americans more than any other group would remember what it was like to be discriminated against.

Love your brothers and sisters regardless of their sexual orientation. This business of hating and pretending its ok because of some book written by WHITE men, is utterly ignorant and SHAMEFUL.

If God has his way, he will send all you haters a GAY child so you can see once and for all, it is NOT A CHOICE.

Look people, When are we as a Nation of People will understand that Homosexuality is totally against the will of God. Lets stop making excuse. Yes God can Forgive,And he will., If we Confess. Yes it is Totally Wrong, And no I do Not Agree with it. Because it is Against Nature.Congragulations to MR.Mcclurkin for taking a stand on what he believes we need more like him.

"I'm glad someone finally had the courage to stand up and tell the truth! Homosecuality is a lifestyle choice and nothing more."

OK MJB, you must be THE expert, and you know this…how?

"Gay people know being gay is wrong."

And Mike Vazquez from Richmond, since you are apparently the speaker for all gay people everywhere; would you care to substantiate this most ignorant of all statements?

"One point five percent of the population has Obama wrapped around their, uh, finger."

Clift in Burlingame: Would you care to share with the class where you derived this totally arbitrary statistic?

In closing I'd just like to ask all those that "chose" to be heterosexual, at what point in your life did you sit down and make that conscious choice? There must have been a moment when you did because apparently all the homosexuals had such a moment and they decided that they would like same gender people.
So if they had to make that choice so must we all have. QED

McClurkin interview in the Chicago Tribune recently:

"I don't believe that even from a religious point of view that Jesus ever discriminated toward anyone, nor do I," McClurkin said in an exclusive interview with the Tribune.
"Most of the things that were said were totally out of context and then other things weren't true."
"My only concern is to be in place with Sen. Obama in unity and bring all the factors together for the sake of change," he said. "That's my only thing. Of course some agents have twisted it as though he [Obama] were embracing a racist or a Nazi, and that is anything but true."
"I believe in his stance. I believe in his platform and his agenda. So when they asked me if I would be a part of it, there was no problem," said McClurkin, who has performed at both parties' conventions and identifies himself as a Democrat. "We don't have to agree on everything, but we do have to agree on the main thing: that there needs to be change and I believe he is the candidate to bring it."
For years, McClurkin has talked from the pulpit about how he was raped by a male family member as a child. It was that act, he has said, that sent him into living as a gay man for the better part of 20 years. He now says he is straight and that his ministry is open to those who say they no longer want to live as a gay person. What he doesn't do, he says, is crusade against homosexuality.
"There's never been a statement made by me about curing homosexuality. People are using that in order to incite anger and to twist my whole platform on it. There's no crusade for curing it or to convert everyone. This is just for those who come to me and ask for change."

"Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus says a lot of other interesting things as well. For example, you shouldn't eat shellfish. You should ENSLAVE lesser people (hear that one, McClurkin?). Do you follow ALL of Leviticus? I think not!

The thing about the Bible is, the New Testament is the UPGRADE that Christians get. It "over-writes" all the bad parts of Judaism in the Old Testament.

So, "an eye for an eye" is upgraded to "turn the other cheek".

That's why God sent his only Son – because we were getting His Word all wrong! Going back to the old, bad ways of the Old Testament is going against both Jesus and God.

So, as a Christian, you should follow the teachings of JESUS, not a lot of old Jewish stuff. If you want to be "Old Testament" then convert to Judaism. Seriously.

If you read the NEW Testament (Bible 2.0) you'll see that Jesus says nothing at all about Homosexuality. He teaches about LOVE.

So-called "Full Gospel" Christians are not really Christians. They are little more than pagans.

FWIW.

If all one reads about homosexuality in the Bible is Leviticus 18.22, then considering homosexuality to be just a choice is understandable. However, there are other rfereences in the Bible to homosexuality that should be considered. Jesus, in Matthew 19:12 spoke of some men being "eunuchs" by birth, and by being made so of men and also being so in the service of the Lord. However, the most startling reference to homosexuality and Lesbianism appears in Romans 1:23 – 27, where God is reported to have given man up to uncleanliness to dishonour their own bodies. This was God's actions because he/she/it decided that man had changed the image of the "uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man". It appears that homosexuality may both be a choice and something that one is inclined to from birth and possibly something that one is forced into.

You can't take just one thought from Leviticus without considering some of the other outrageous statements such as in Leviticus 25:44 about slaves, and 21:20 about approaching the altar with a defect in one eye, and in several other passages.

I love people who say that they're no longer gay. The reason I love it is because they weren't totally gay to begin with. They were, and still are bisexual, which means that if anything ever happens to this guy's significant, opposite other, then his sexuality will again be up for grabs.

Personally speaking, I hope this guy ask God for forgiveness for his lying about saying his liking of men was a choice. He knows that when he was twelve or so, he just automatically found himself being attracted to the same sex. And pardon me, but a twelve-year-old doesn't make that kind of choice. You just don't wake up one morning and find the new boy (or girl, if you're a lesbian) in school drop dead gorgeous.

The only reason so many people feel the way they feel about gays is the Bible. And while I believe in God and Jesus, I remember also that the Bible was written by man, not God. And since man has this curious ability to make even the biggest lie seem believable, how do we know the part in the Bible about homosexuality was not (at the very least) exaggerated by the same like minded ultra-conservate hypocrites that exist today? We don't.

Now I do think some gays go out of their way to be a pain-in-the-butt, but at the same time, I can understand the gay movement. Afterall, if the ultra-consevatives of this country got their way, gays would be locked away in exile. Why? Because ultra-conservatives only believe in giving people their rights as an American, as long as that person does things the way they see fit. In other words, ultra-conservatives want gays to be obedient. And it's because they aren't, that they hate them so much (even beyond the sin, it's not a sin factor).

Oh, one more thing. These studies that prove homosexuality is a choice, is a lie, at least when it comes to most gays. And please, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Because you, a straight person, don't know what it's like to be a gay. And quite frankly, a bisexual, who's trying to fit in with 'proper society', is going to always say it's a choice, or that they're cured, when they know that they aren't.

It is shameful for all you "GOD FEARING" folks to use a Book of stories to continue to spread hate and messages of intolerance to yout LGBT brethran.
How dare you cast that first stone. Who DO you think you are? If you were REALLY a good hearted and caring AMERICAN, you would try to walk a mile in their shoes before casting your know it all judgement.

Why would anyone CHOOSE to be GAY?
So ignorant and hateful people could use them as stepping stones for their personal and professional gain or so people who hate their place in life can feel better about berating someone that looks and sounds like them??

SHAME ON ALL YOU BIBLE THUMPING HATE MONGERERS.

You have LBGT friends, family and Co-workers. I guarantee it. It's time for this country to realize that being Gay is not a Sin, it's just a FACT.

Stop hating based on a BOOK of FICTION!
The book was written by SLAVE OWNERS.

How about we revert to those times just because it was so then?

I didn't think you'd like that Hate or discriminatory idea either.

God Bless the educated and truly compassionate.

Many on this blog have indicated that they don't understand why people would react so negatively to these public comments. It's not necessarilly the comments themselves. Rev. McClurkin is by all means entitled to his opinions and should not be barred from making the statement he did. The issue that I and many others have is the brand of faith that this represents. The Ex-Gay movement in this country is largely radical and sometimes violent. Close-minded parents send their gay children to these programs to cure them of their perceived illness, where they are subjected to varying degrees of physical and psychological abuse. There's a reason that suicide rates are higher in gay teenagers, and it's not because they think God doesn't love them. It's because they think their parents don't love them, that their friends and families won't accept them , and that they are somehow inferior because they cannot change the persons whom they are attracted to.

The central message of Christianity is supposed to be love for one's fellow man. So when your son or daughter demonstrates enough love and trust in you to reveal that they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender, why don't you practice what you preach? Be open about your feelings on the matter, have a discussion, reaffirm your love, and commit yourself to working through it together. Maybe you'll find that your child will change and come to share your views. Or maybe they won't and you'll find that your gay son or daughter is still worthy of your love and respect even though your faith backround is at odds with who they are. The bottom line is, nothing in this world is worth sacrificing the love of a family.

Everyone can stay away from sexual activity but that doesn't change your sexual nature, this is hardly a "divine" story.

I am getting sick of Buybull thumping morons trying to ruin the country.

All you folks ever do is talk about sex …..and yet your country is committing genocides, rape, pillaging of Iraq and now you are foaming at the mouth at the prospect of attacking Iran.

Karma won't be kind to America.

Christians like Rev. McClurkin who claim that Christ's love is conditional – "(the) premise of Christ is love…but there is a side that deals in judgment…", miss the big surprise of classic Christianity -God's love is in fact unconditional and that's the final judgment. As difficult as this is for some to wrap their heads around, its no excuse for incendiary remarks.

The thoelogical sand on which Rev. McClurkin and those of similar religious conviction base their Biblical interpretation, neglects that most all Americans today are breaking one or another legal commandment. Get over it – Gay, straight, whatever – Christ's love knows no bounds.

I am sorry to all the gay people out there, but God didn't create you gay. It is a choice. We are born into a sinful world, we are not born with sin and the devil "whispers things in our ears" throughout our life to get us to go the way he wants. Committing gay acts is a sin just like murder, lieing, cheating, fornication, and stealing. How can you say God created you gay? That goes against everything the bible states. Donnie didn't say anything wrong or anti-gay. How come when you have an opinion that is opposite of a groups, it is anti? Being gay is not a sin, it's the sexual acts that is the sin. Gay people don't want to realize that God can change your sexual orientation because they don't want to admit that it is a sin to endulge in homosexual acts. Now I am not one of those Christians who say gays are going to hell because that is ignorant. Only those who don't believe in Christ we meet that fate. But I do believe that if you allow the holy spirit to work on you then you can transform your desires. That goes for any person dealing with sin, which is everybody. The commenter who talks about distinction – homosexuality is not who you are inside. It's the choice to allow sin to take over your life. You don't want to hear that is not a choice, but you want everybody to believe it is from birth. So how are we different in pushing what we want people to believe? I don't care if you are gay or not..I love you. I just want everybody to love Christ to see heaven..

The full quote in context:

"How do they know that they are homosexual? If you ask them and go back far enough, it’s usually a pinpoint place. They want help. That’s what I’m there to do. I’m not in the mood to play with those who are trying to kill our children. Someone has to be the voice for them, and the children are only hearing one voice right now."

people should not be that surprised about this. here we have obama, a product of interracial marriage – which used to be illegal and seen as immoral – who now states he himself is against gay marriage. he instead offers up second-class status of "civil unions". how he can turn around and use the same twisted thinking against gay marriage that was once used against interracial marriage is abhorrent, especially considering his own history. here we have a man who has experienced bigotry firsthand then turning around and fostering the same kind of bigotry himself.

as for the comments by mcclurkin…everyone complains about people who lash out against christians and the bible. well, christians are doing it to themselves. what do they expect?? they go around telling everyone in the world how they should live their lives and judging the world based on fictitious texts which they manipulate to suit their needs. and then they have the audacity to feign offense when people fight back? oh please, we see right through that. how about you live your own life, let other people live theirs and stop trying to convert or condemn anyone and everyone who does live how you think they should live.

gay people chose to be gay the same day you chose to be straight.

Thank you all very much for not rolling out that old chestnut about 'God didn't make Adam and Steve.'

Didn't these evanglicals get enough money from the last election to push the anti-gay agendy. My bad, they were too busy hanging out in the bathrooms up in minnesota. donnie mcclurkin needs to get his money back because he still looks gay. i don't care if you're staight or gay, the next president needs to get gas prices down, us out of iraq, deal with healthcare and social security, national decifit, bias sentencing laws(especially in the south), immigration laws, corporate windfall taxes, just name a few. I'm an african-american man, I thought most male gossip singers where gay………….

Well now that we have cured homosexuality, now maybe we can cure cancer.

"How Obama stands behind this man is reflective of his character."

Perhaps it is on the "down low"

MIAMI FOR CHRIST, you are the kind of "CHRISTAIN" that's pretty easy to make fun of. Just thought you'd like to know. Hope you win that struggle against that homosexuality that tv forced upon you. Actually I don't think the Lord ever told us, or FORBIDE whatever the heck is, not to speak against homosexuality. I don't even find it TEMTING.
In your case you shouldn't tell people what you think, because you sound ten years old. Get your mom to help you with the spelling next time.

I spent some time doing research, and it is clear that Barack Obama is a stronger advocate for the gay community.

You can find out on the LGBT page of his website- http://www.barackobama.com. He also has a GLBT myspace page- http://www.myspace.com/obamapride

Hillary Clinton has no such section of her webpage, which mentions nothing about gay issues in general.

Do your homework before calling a candidate anti-gay.

This is interesting…remember how the Mormon Church once had as its doctrine that the stronger one's faith becomes, the more white they become.
How many more white, racist people out there still believe that black people are sinners and use the Bible to justify their beliefs? Remember that the Bible justified slavery…should we continue to use that standard today?

Only a degenerate moron would CHOOSE to be a member of the last minority in the world that it's still considered acceptable to hate and discriminate against.

Telling yourself otherwise is simply surrendering to the painful ignorance that grips this country.

No one WANTS to be gay. Especially not in a country where ignorance and intolerance seem to be considered holy.

It's just something that people have to learn to accept, both in themselves and in others, and get on with their lives. I have no problem with people who are gay but choose to be celibate and chaste for religious reasons, they have accepted the reality of who they are and just simply choose not to follow that nature.

Those who claimed to be "cured" are sad examples of deception. They lie to themselves and to others with their claims. Most of the time, it's really nothing more than a way to sneak back into the closet.

Exodus 31:15 “Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death”.

This directly relates to one of the Ten Commandments and therefore is more important than homosexuality, which isn't one of the commandments. So why are all you who are advocating your objections based on religion not screaming about this? Why are you not condemning Sunday NFL games?

Can you give any answer other than HYPOCRISY?

Pandering would have been if Obama took McClurkin off the roster for the event. Clinton fans love to try and stuff people into a catch-22. You do anything honest and forthright, and you're pandering. If he removed McClurkin from singing, the Clinton fans would have screamed "pandering! pandering!" He added a pro-gay reverend to the event, and the Clinton fans screamed "pandering! pandering!"

All the meanwhile, they refuse to recognize that you must talk and have a dialogue with those you disagree with. Barack is vehemently pro-gay rights, he's said it time and time again, and everyone knows it. If you turn your back on people who are anti-gay rights, they will never change. They will never have a chance to see that you're a normal person just like everyone else. A certain portion of the gay community needs to stop being so ignorant, and start working towards speaking out and letting people realize that they aren't all that bad. If, however, this small sect of the gay community keeps distancing themselves from the average American, and keeps trying to "force" people to like them, there will never be ANY change.

I am sick of blacks saying to gays don't compare our discrmination to yours. As though blacks have some kind of monopoly on discrimination. Yes, you were enslaved, and endured jim crow. BUT discrimination against gays is thousands of years older than racial discrimination in this country. And gays were and continue to be killed for who they are genetically. So, perhaps our's plight is indeed more dire than what's happened to blacks…so perhaps the comparison isn't warranted…but that's so not because blacks have been treated worse, but because gays have been and continue to be treated worse.

I believe that is was Pascal in the early time that said " if i am wrong i have lost nothing, BUT if you are wrong you have lost your soul forever and will burn in hell" atleast that is what they said taught at Millersville University. So i ask you do you really wish to take that chance, heaven and hell are real. and the bible says i set before you life and death those are choices, and then the bible even gives you a hint, he says CHOOSE life. and have your life more abundantly, whether you are stealing, or lying, or fornicating, or homosexuality. Sin is sin and you will be judged accordingly.

I am so tired of homosexuality being singled out as the end all, be all of sins. Until premarital sex (fornicators) is lumped in with homosexuality as it is in the scriptures, this IS bigotry. Also, I do believe that god does not approve of divorce (the only exception being adultery). Until such acts are condemned and vilified with equal volition, the gay community has a right to feel targeted. Jesus Christ always mentioned these groups together for a reason, so that one cannot place one over the other in the hierarchy of sins. Its time to stop the cherry picking and condemn all or none of these so-called offenses toward god!

Ah, the usual of using the Bible to spread hate. The Bible says a lot of things that are repugnant to most people (yes, conservatives?) like killing certain sinners and keeping slaves, but we don't do those things, do we? Follow the Bible or not. Picking and choosing what you follow in such an important matter is the height of hypocrisy.

Why do conservative seem to emphasize the hateful and exclusionary things most? Very sad.

Christians,

I don't want your love. Take ALL OF ME or LEAVE ME.

You can't pick and choose, but sadly your religion preaches to you to do exactly that.

I’m Gay and a Christian. Surprise, surprise you can be both. I’m sorry McClurkin was raped as a child by two family members and now links his trauma to having mixed feelings about being a homosexual. I’m certain prayer did help him heal his scars. However, he was obviously never a homosexual. Being forced to engage in homosexual sex, as McClurkin was, is not the same as having a homosexual orientation. It’s disheartening to hear him mislabel his experience as some kind of deliverance from homosexuality. Furthermore, I have a personal relationship with Jesus and have since I was 8 or 9 years old. I wish people would stop using the Old Testament to justify their intolerance and hatred of gays. I’ll pray for those sinners tonight.

If god delivered McClurkin, we got him C.O.D.

And I believe intolerence toward Bible-based morality, given what god's followers have chosen to do with it, is not only something I'm VERY VERY VERY proud of, but an absolute obligation to a decent society.

This man is a fool and has made Obama into a joke! Give me Hillary!

And may the Lord God Almighty deliver us from you Donnie.

Rev. Donnie McClurkin is just another bigot in the crowd not worth mentioning. Drowing himself in religion is his opiate, may he find solice is his delusion. As for Barrack Obama, This affiliation will be the least of his worries. As a democrat I want someone who is experienced and seasoned in international relations and I'm not talking about vacations in Europe, Asia, or Latin America. His biggest Gaff so far has been that he will sit on par with dictators and have meaninful conversation. If that's not incredulous what is? Hillary Clinton all the way baby! She's my FAVORITE!

So if my homosexuality is a choice, then I ask my hetrosexual friends to choose – just for a short time, a homosexual lifestyle. Consider it a "scientific experiment", a walk in their shoes time to see how really easy it is to turn on/turn off your hetrosexuality. I'd like to learn how easy it is for them to choose being gay is.

It is extremely disturbing that in 2007 there are so many people that are uneducated about the biology of human sexuality. Once again people are using their relgion to justify ignorance.

People are born gay. Period. Just like in the animal kingdom homosexuality and bisexuality are a normal and natural part of nature. There are over 1500 animal species that display homosexual and bisexual behavior including our closest relatives the primates.

A percentage of the human population has always been born gay and always will be. An even larger percentage of humans are naturally bisexual with varying degrees of attraction. The Kinsey scales explains this.

It is only now in recent decades that gay peope have shown the courage to stand up and fight for what is right. To teach and educate people about the subject.

It is a complete myth that everyone is born straight. Homosexuality is hardwired in the brain in the developing fetus, hormones, genetics, or both are thought to be the biological causes. It is a completely natural behavior and the way God and nature intended for our species.

Homosexuality most likely developed in our species for evolutionary reasons which is still being researched.

This issue is extremely important because this is a human and civil cause. Gay people have lived an extremely hard life, ONLY because of a misguided culture and society that uses religion to justify immoral discrimination.

Gay people are part of your families. We are your sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, close friends, neighbors, co-workers, and we are in every walk of life. From police and firefighters to the person who delivers your mail. We are human beings, who are NOT sinning, we are being who "The Creator" created us to be.

This man McClurkin is spreading false information and not being truthful. Education is desparately needed in this subject. This man is doing a great deal of harm. Since he is a public figure he needs to stand up and fight for gay children everywhere. He is not being true to himself and that is tradgic. He should be reaching out to gay kids and teaching them stand proud and be who God intended them to be. He could be using his position to educate and help change the world. Instead he is spreading IGNORANCE which is the greates sin.

I'm praying to God he renounces his past statements, frees himself from this type of religious indoctrination and learns to accept himself, the way God made him.

Education is the key to combat ignorance.

I don't think this compromises the Obama campaign even though I support gay rights. I mean, if the message is all-inclusiveness, then someone who is outspoken on their disapproval of homosexuality should be just as welcome as someone who promotes it. That simple. Neither association incriminates Mr. Obama.

It's amazing to me that people don't understand that there are a variety of people who can support a candidate. Obama's record has been inclusive of all people, yet that is completely ignored. Why? Is it so bad that he decided to include a popular artist with controversial opinions? Why hasn't anyone said anyting about his other supporters? People pick and choose the things they report in order to make someone look bad and others look good. When will society wake up and not let the media dictate what they believe? I haven't heard Barack Obama EVER condemn anyone, yet people ignore that because it's not reportable. It's sad that so many people's decisions can be changed so quickly. Where are the articles on important news? Have people forgotten about our children and their educations, the soldiers fighting overseas, the millions of people unemployed or underpayed? WAKE UP America and vote for someone supports all of us despite our differences. I'm a teacher who sees the decline in public education, and I'm not happy or satisfied. Why aren't adults just as outraged about the state of public education? I'm not a religious fanatic, but I pray this country wakes up one day and decides to focus on the real reasons we vote.

I totally agree with Dallas. So this guy says he's been "delivered" from homosexuality. That's between him and his God. Coming from someone who will miss out on witnessing a major organization in action, (I'm from Kansas City, and La Raza has refused to come to our city because one of the city commisioners is in the Minutemen Militia) I have to say that turning down a whole organization because you don't agree with one person in that group is pretty wrong headed.
I mean, he's running for the presidency, he's supposed to be representing ALL of us, whether we agree with each other or not.
Obama is know for bipartisanship in government, and building partners. Let's let him do that.

Self hating homosexual is what this guy is. If Obama wants to endorse these types of people – he won't get my vote.

I don't take McClurkin's comments as being necessarily anti-gay. However, I can certainly understand where someone would get that impression. That he feels having 'gay feelings' was something that was wrong and needed to be eradicated from his being seems to indicate that everyone with those feelings should follow his example. With all due respect, I don't agree. I'm not a masochist … nor a martyr … Life would have been much easier, in some respects, had I not been gay. That said, I embrace my sexuality as just one more thing that makes me a unique individual. It's unfortunate that the good Reverend didn't feel that way too.

That said … the whole uproar being made over his statement is a bit ridiculous. While I believe that gay rights are important they are certainly not the most important thing being addressed in this election. And in all honesty McCorkin's statement is pretty inconsequential in the general scheme of things. The one thing I would ask is why he felt it necessary, assuming he truly believes that we should love one another unconditionally why he felt it necessary to make such a statement? What was the point? He's obviously an intelligent man, which makes me believe that he knew exactly what his words would cause. That I take issue with. By making such a statement in the forum that he chose he made a mistake. Of course, that's my opinion, for what it's worth.

I don't necessarily consider the Reverend's statement to be a reflection of Obama's political inclinations. While he is easily the most charismatic politician in the field he has much work to do before he convinces me that he's the one for the job.

As a gay and (formerly) quite religious man myself, I have a wide experience in so-called reparative therapies. Being gay is no more a choice than being left-handed or having blue eyes. Note that we used to try to make left-handed children write with their right hand-this led to emotional and psychological problems, including stuttering. Someday, we'll realize that forcing homosexuals to try be "straight" is what causes the problems!

As a gay man, why do I need to change my natural sexual orientation? God created me as a gay man. To get up and claim that there is something wrong with being gay and that it needs to be changed is the problem. We do not need to pretend that we are heterosexual when heterosexuality is unnatural for gay people. Mr. McClurkin only brings harm to his gay brothers and sisters by claiming that being gay is a choice. No one would choose to be gay and put up with the hateful homophobia present in the US today if they really had a choice. Mr. McClurkin should accept the natural sexual orientation God gave him and stop trying to be something he never will be nor needs to be.

The rev. is just giving his opinion from personal experience. Any gays out there trying to rip the guy for giving his opinion needs to rethink what this country is all about. It's getting to the point where gays are so overprotected that freedom of speech is infringed upon, and people in the spotlight need choose their words with great discretion, which is unfortunate.

MJB, I decided to see if gayness is a lifestyle choice, so I went down to the gaybar. There were some really pretty guys there, all perfumed and made up, but y'know, they gave me the creeps and I decided not to go out with any of 'em. And it wasn't exactly like I had a big choice there, MJB. Maybe YOU could just go gay any time without any trouble, but I sure as heck don't feel attracted to any gay guys. Especially that Purvis guy. They got a nice bar there, and they seemed like nice folks, but sexually attractive they weren't. I think I'm gonna disagree with old McClurkin here and say it might be a lifestyle, but not a choice.

This religious nonsense is just another reason we need to elect a president (NOT OBAMA) who will be a strong leader and make strides in Science, Technology, Foregin relations, bring back America from the edge, and NOT pander to religious sects in this country. I cannot believe some of the almost hysterical, religious brainwashed blogs on this story. It is almost like people feel threatened…wake up people…it is a genetic condition, not sexual preference. You cannot catch homosexuality…you are born with it! Get over it people!

WE MUST REMEMBER WE CAN SPEAK AGAINST AND MAKE FUN OF CHRISTAINS BUT LORD FORBIDE WE SPEAK AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY!!
IT IS FORCED UPON US ON TV, MOVIES, AND IN THE SCHOOLS. THE WANT US TO BE OKAY WITH THEIR LIFESTYLES BUT WE CANT TELL THEM WHAT WE THINK.
HERES WHAT I THINK THE LORD REIGNS FOREVER AND EVER AND HE LOVES ALL PEOPLE BUT DOES NOT LIKE THEIR SIN AND CHOICES YES CHOICES THEY MAKE. GOD DID NOT MAKE MURDERERS OR CHILD MOLESTERS IT WAS THEIR CHOICE TO GO WITH THEIR TEMPTATIONS JUST AS HOMOSEXUALITY IS A TEMTATION AND A CHOICE.

You cant PRAY away anything… you can ask for self control however… but you will never be fully free .. your life will remain contrived…because you are supressing what is true and authentic.. but i guess God wants that for us right?…Ingnorance is bliss… "Never Underestimate The Power Of STUPID People In Large Groups".. For they continue to rule our country

What's being overlooked is what a hypocrite Obama actually is.

He is a panderer.

It's hilarious listening to the religious folk talk about God and helping gay people. If these people really truly listened to Jesus or whatever God they believe in, they would have no problem with gay people. Jesus loved everybody and no where in the Bible does he say he doesn't. Not that the Bible is a reliable source of fact. Religion puts rules and regulations on humans that are impossible for them to adhere to. The difference between secular and religious people is that secular people don't hide their true feelings/urges/sexual orientation whereas religious people do. And like another poster said, it's time to focus on real issues like social services (health care, education), Iraq, the economy, and the widening gap between the rich and the poor. People who vote for a candidate based on religion need their head examined. It's those kind of people who get the Republicans elected and look at the mess they've got us in. Not to mention they play on your religious beliefs and your stupidity because they focus on issues that are so unimportant to society like homosexuality and abortion so that you don't focus on the fact they're squandering all your money and sending all your jobs overseas. Like the author Christopher Hitchens says, "Religion poisons everything." History has and always will prove that.

Politics or not, we in the gay community don't believe homosexuality is wrong, or a sin. Only "straight" people have told us this. By saying it's a choice, you're telling us all that we are aberrations of nature, and choose everyday to be bad. I, for one, won't listen to it anymore. I was sick in my soul from listening to "straight" people tell me that who I am, down to the core of my being, is bad. I was sick of living with the guilt brought on by the constant haranguing from hetero-centrists. I was sick and tired of dealing with the resultant depression brought on by allowing this hetero-centrist world to kill my spirit -gay though it may be- little by little with their negative messages. I had to fight for the will to continue on despite being told daily how awful I am because of who I choose to love, no matter how good of a person I may be. If there is a god, she/he/it did not make a mistake in creating me this way. I did not choose it. Are you kidding me? The mistake is in a genetically-imposed mindset that says anything other than heterosexuality is wrong. My solution is to become as combative as possible until people like this so-called preacher are further enlightened, and stop living behind a cloak of religious self-righteousness.

I am religious, I am a human being & I am a proud citizen of this country but I will not sit here and judge anyone on the alter of morality when this country has done more "wrong" things in the name of religion than I have time to write.

After reading all of the comments on this article, there are a couple of things that are very clear: 1) Our country still tolerates and promotes discrimination; and 2) we have not learn the lessons of the past that discrimination, anti-comments, bigotry and hatred do more to divide a country than bring it together.

Doesn't the Bible say that we are all born into sin (i.e. that we are created with a sinful nature), and that until we are redeemed, we are condemned by such nature? So it's not a conflict for a Christian to believe that a homosexual (one who has natural attractions to people of the same sex) was born that way and also that acting on such attractions is a sin.

With this view, it is easy to see why Christians are so opposed to a society that embraces any sin, albeit a natural one. It makes it nearly impossible for a person to resist a temptation when society tells him to embrace it. I imagine that if gluttony were as highly publicized as homosexuality, you'd see the same reaction.

There is a vast community of people who have been delivered from the homosexual lifestyle and many more who desire to be free from it. We rarely hear from these folks. Why is it intolerant for this man to speak the truth in love? The life expectancy of homosexuals is shorter; many suffer with physical and emotional scars. If "choice" is such an important right, why can't we applaud this man for the choice he made? It is the militant gays who demonstrate over and over who is really intolerant. The real question is what will God tolerate? Read Romans 1. The Gospel is the power of God. Those who reject it will, by their own choice, experience the consequences. Homosexuals are sinners like all of us are sinners. God offers His salvation to those who will trust in Christ and His payment for their sin.

Why aren't more people speaking out against the other sinful lifestyle choices in the Bible? Where are the protesters against shellfish eaters? Maybe it's because people choose to ignore some aspects of the Bible while concentrating on others in order to mask a bigotry in the name of religion.

Considering all the church going, praying African-American "straight" men on the down low, McClurkin's claim that prayer took away his homosexualty rings very false.

Barack panders to the hate-mongering superstitious christian twits. Big surprise there. The Gay Community played a big part in electing him in Illinois, we'll play an even bigger part in making sure he's NOT elected this time. I read the posts on here and realize exactly how ignorant the members of that cult are and how they put their religious cult before mine and my children's civil rights. After all we are supposed to be second class citizens…right christians? Right Barack?

Is being straight a lifestyle choice? No, because you were born that way. the only reason you see more gays out and about is that they are no longer hiding or getting married because they feel they have to in order to fit in.

"I cant beleive Obama even panders to the militant gay comunity, everyone knows homosexuality is a choice but them.."

-Toledo, Ohio

wow. kinda like everybody knows you're a fool but you.

Okay. Let's just say gays and lesbians are born that way. Fine. Just be born again.

Also, none of us would be here if we didn't have a mother (woman) and a father (man). It takes a male and female for human existence to remain. An egg can't fertilize an egg!!!

Haven't we seen this before? A public religious figure is "cured" of his homosexuality…until he gets caught in the act and makes the usual "I have sinned — please forgive me" plea. Its just like Baker getting caught with a prostitute and Rush getting caught with drugs. Same nonsense.

Homosexuals react explosively to any comment not supportive of their sexual antics. Sidden is a white, gay pastor, why no vile attacks on him by anyone? Obama, by not standing up for McClurkin is showing himself to be a political switch-hitter. Obama sends McClurkin to the back of the bus, how does that make other black Americans feel? Homosexuals judge everything by what they do with their sex organs and Obama is letting that behavior channelize his campaign. That is a serious weakness. One point five percent of the population has Obama wrapped around their, uh, finger?

There is no such thing as a "former gay" and he knows it's not a choice but how he was born. He really needs to listen to "GOD" a little more and appreciate who GOD made him to be and embrace it. Former gays are right up there with Santa… you see people dressed like him and you may want to believe but in reality you know he really doesn't exists.

I can never make the claim to understand the feelings of the homosexual community, and as a "former" member of this group I suppose Rev.McClurkin does. However I do understand as an African-American the frustration dealing with those who use subjective, misinformed and self-righteous set of beliefs to judge me based on race and then use God as their ambassador. NO group of people should be judged by another. As a current member of one group and a "former" member of another I would think Rev.McClurkin would understand that, and for those of the African-Afrmerican community who do follow this psuedo-spiritual homophobic line of thinking you are being counterproductive.

BEING GAY is not a CHOICE! I was born with it and no one understands it. I'm not gonna vote for Obama because he allow McClurkin make a joke of being ex-gay. go look up the American Psy Association's statement about the sexual orientation based on their observation and research. STOP playing with "Faith"! Focus on the actually medical journal that can prove it when the Bible is just a bible with words without prove. Obama, please stop playing the black card along with the gay card. Focus to the real issues of American. I'm for Hillary coz she focus to the real issues, not just faith only.

Give me a break, Obama and McClurkin.

BOLOGNA – a man who couldnt come to terms with himself, thats all this is. So I guess if you have homosexual thoughts and do not act on them, you are not a homosexual any longer? He was born gay, just like he was born black.

McClurkin has brainwashed himself into thinking that he is not a homosexual. Right! Keep on reading that bible guy. Let's see how long it takes for you to "backslide" all the way into a public restroom like senator Craig. I do not hate you for your bull but I certainly pity you for the pain you must feel inside.

Donnie McClurkin and anyone who shares his views is a self-righteous, indignant hypocrite whose beliefs don’t count for a hill of beans. It is understandable why Obama would associate with the likes of McClurkin because, like McClurkin, Obama is a Republican light who sells bridges. We need to stick with Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama is someone we just don’t NEED as a leader. The fact that a candidate actually has to go to church to get the black vote just tells me one thing, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE EDUCATION GAP. Our kids need to learn more math and science. People only use religion to hide from themselves. They cover themselves with fig leafs. They are the reactionaries. One day we will understand each other and the McClurkins of the world will be silenced. “For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when that which is perfect has come then that which is in part shall be done away”. (1Corinthians 13:9)

Bible-based morality is entirely outmoded and utterly inapplicable to modern times. Indeed, most of the Bible's moral declarations were never appropriate and never had the slightest bit of worth.

Consider the passage in which a man is stoned to death for gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. Not only did god tolerate this punishment, he actually prescribed it.

Gathering sticks leads to agonizing death by stoning?

Something smells rotten to me.

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As a black male I fully stand behind Rev. McClurkin's statements. He is simply stating how God has impacted his life. There is nothing bigoted about what said. Rev McClurkin wanted to change as a result of his own convictions, who is doing the hating here?

Posted By Mark Tyler, Bloomington IL : October 29, 2007 9:21 am

Would Blacks be supporting a White Candidate, if the white candidate had a Rev.Hillbilly speaking at a fundraiser, and this Reverend had a history of making "unflattering, racist & well known opinions" about Blacks? ..and this Reverand used HIS Interpretation of the Bible to Justify them? Would you STILL support the White candidate even if that Candidate said that,they themselves did not support the comments made by Rev.Hillbilly? Would you support the white candidate? After all the Bible endorses slavery. Sheeesh…I say we KEEP ALL Religion out of politics and to ones self, where it belongs, and USED to be!

Great. It is about we have a politcan that stands up for what he believes in. Gay people know being gay is wrong. Go Obama. I am voting for you now.

There is no such thing as a "former gay" and he knows it's not a choice but how he was born. He really needs to listen to "GOD" a little more and appreciate he is who GOD made him to be and embrace it. Former gays are right up there with Santa… you see people dressed like him and you may want to believe but in reality you know he really doesn't exists.

I saw Mr. Obama in St. Louis over the weekend. He walked with a few feet of a group of college students and others who were standing there waiting. Mr. Obama never once looked our way, we got no wave, no hello, no thank you for standing in the rain… nothing. The group all felt the same, "what a waste of time". He was a consideration before we were snubbed but I think my decision just got easier.

STOP comparing BLACKS to HOMOSEXUALS – The struggles blacks have faced are not rooted in perversion but rather creed, nationality, race, and racial intolerance.

His words are twisted, and its the same homosexual agenda all over again. He is saying he disagrees with the sin, not the sinner.

When "Bible based morality" attempts to influence public policy (i.e., defense of marriage act), talking against it is not intolerance toward Christians. It is imperative to speak out against Christian self-rightousness that leads toward intolerance.

I would applaud McClurkin or any Christian that would say:
I don't speak against the homosexual. God delivered me, but I support equal rights for homosexuals that do not share my experience or have other beliefs.

Now, that would be tolerance, would it?

OK, TR, I'll go on a diet if you'll stop engaging in sodomy.

Seriously, a lot of people responding here have said their homosexual feelings are innate. Well, I have a slow metabolism. Doesn't change a thing about sin. I need to watch my eating habits in order to honor the body God wants me to have.

The basic disjunction in the whole "God made me gay" argument is that it doesn't acknowledge the biblical view that we are born into a fallen world. It is the secular/pagan/New Age view that we're all perfect at birth, and society warps us. The Christian view is that we are born with flaws because this is not the perfect world that God created, it is an imperfect world, a world that is fallen due to the first sin. A world moving toward redemption.

You can accept or reject this view of our fallen nature, but you are wasting your time using on Christians the argument that God made you a homosexual and therefore blesses your behavior.

so how long will it be before the skeletons start falling out of your closet sir? i am a lifelong gay man and no amount of praying has helped me. being gay is not a choice nor is it something you can give up like abad habit. please stop lying to yourself and others. you hurt everyone with those untruths. be a man and admit the truth to yourself. homosexuality can't be to bad because god supposedly made us all. correct? the bible was not written by god himself, so who's to say that he said it was wrong? it was man's interpretation of what god supposedly said. and apparently he had his own ghosts to deal with.

Mr. McClurkin is still gay. In this life your either straight, gay, or bi. I couldn't stop liking girls if I tried. Gimme a break. McClurkin is GAY.

I am amazed that any homosexual could support Obama after this. Very odd this world we live in.

Imagine if McClurkin was supporting Rudy or Romney? The protests would of been insane. Instead we get a small group who's leader wouldn't even say they were protesting Obama for using this in the closet dude to raise money for him.

Democrats are truly strange individuals.

If you read the Old Testament, it does not say that God hates homosexuals. It does say that homosexual relations is sin.

Thank God for people like McClurkin that have the courage to speak the truth.

As a black male I fully stand behind Rev. McClurkin's statements. He is simply stating how God has impacted his life. There is nothing bigoted about what said. Rev McClurkin wanted to change as a result of his own convictions, who is doing the hating here?

Posted By Mark Tyler, Bloomington IL : October 29, 2007 9:21 am

Would Blacks be supporting a Whiet Candidate, if that said white candidate had a Rev.Hillbilly…if he had many "unflattering,well know opinions" about Blacks, while using the Bible to Justify them? Even if that Said Candidate did not support the comments,by Rev.Hillbilly? Would you? After all the Bible endorses slavery. Sheeesh…I say we KEEP ALL Religion out of politics and to ones self, where it belongs, and USED to be!

I'm glad someone finally had the courage to stand up and tell the truth! Homosecuality is a lifestyle choice and nothing more. Thank you Mr. McClurkin.

If you truly believe sexuality is a choice, stop looking at it one sided. If you are a straight male, try to convince yourself that you are gay. If you think that's absurd, you should try being a gay man listening to all of this ignorance about sexuality being a choice. Let me ask you this, if you could prevent the next terrorist attack by engaging in a homosexual act, would you do it to save the lives of thousands?

Mr. McClurkin is not "anti-gay" but leave it to the media to twist everyone's words. Too bad our nation can't have our news simply reported without it being filtered through the opinions of those who should just be presenting it. No one should limit God's power or any individuals choice for their beliefs. Why should anyone who has been discriminated against turn and start discriminating. Honestly people we need to open our hearts and minds.

This experience may be unique to the reverend, and he is certainly entitled to his own opinion. However, homosexuality is NOT a choice, nor ever will be. We must promote tolerance of both blacks and gays if this is to be a truly unifed country. Grow up and let's not be so prejudiced!

While I don't agree with McClurkin's views across the board, it's ridiculous for people to try and shut out his perspective, which is held by a substantial number of Americans.

Human sexuality is more complicated than simply being a choice or not being a choice, and it's up to every individual to handle their sexuality according to their own beliefs and morals. If McClurkin believes that he has gained the control over his sexuality that he wants through prayer, so be it.

It's ridiculous for gay activists to try and stamp out all opposing viewpoints.

Obama stated “The artists you’re going to hear from are some of the best in the world, and favorites of Michelle and myself.”
From this article Obama did not say that agreed with McClurkin's statement or not. Only that he is a very good artist. I would prefer to hear directly from Obama's mouth how he feels about gay rights rather than assuming things based on what someone else says during a concert.

Gays and lesbians demand tolerance and acceptance for their lifestyle, yet where is their tolerance for someone who speaks against their lifestyle?

Amazing it is nowhere to be found when someone speaks truthfully against their lifestyle.

Many of you are missing the point – read on! McClurkin also says homosexuals are not welcome in his church and that we have to protect our children from them. THOSE STATEMENTS CREATE HATRED under the guise of don't hate the sinner hate the sin". And all of you bible quoters better be THIN – because the bible gives as much credence to overeating being a sin as it does to homosexuality. If you are fat or lazy and calling out homosexuality — then you are a big hypocrite by the standards of your own bible. WALK THE TALK

Now Barack supporters get a little taste of what GWB supporters have known for years. The liberal press targets those it doesn't like with stories and distortions to shape public opinion. Not so funny when it happens to your guy is it!

It is not unusual to seek deliverance through Christ from a part of yourself that you hate and which causes pain, "sin" nothwithstanding. I remember once hearing a frustrated black man on the bus saying how he hated being black in this country. I hope he is delivered from that pain by now. Self-hatred has its way of showing up in everything you do. God bless Brother McClurkin in his personal journey and struggle to survive in a Godly way. I do not believe his self-hatred has anything to do with Godly, same-sex loving people on this Earth and in Heaven proudly serving the will of God, naturally.

Bob in Chicago – um, basically everybody used to believe the things you don't believe now. And those are the people who built the society you now say is being "destroyed"…by people who believe what the people who built the society believed.

Seems a little obvious that if this society, built by people who were very concerned about sin and morality, right and wrong, and who were about ninety percent followers of that Carpenter is now being destroyed it is probably being destroyed by those with beliefs antithetical to those of its builders.

You, in other words.

The experience of one is not necessarily the experience of another. I am a Christian, Lesbian, Woman, Mother. I have been both supported and persecuted in all of my distinct roles. My bottom line is that I will support the candidate who will stop the senseless war in which we are engaged as a nation. A war birthed from lies cannot be just. Gay people exist, gay "converts" exist, truth speakers exist, and liars exist. Let's just join together to bring some integrity back to our nation. Get out of Iraq.

THAT'S AWESOME! Don't get me wrong, I don't support Obama's agenda, yet it's refreshing to hear someone stand up against the twisted gay 'lobby'!

I support this guy, and like the message!

By the way….I'm one of those 'white guys' (seemingly the only ones who can be called 'bigots')

I am amazed by this on so many levels. First, who cares what a singer who's MUSIC Obama enjoys says? This is not someone who will impact policy or determine the rule of law in this country in anyway shape or form.
Second, to the Gay and Lesbian community, you are doing more harm than good by making such a fuss. Before this "firestorm" how many of you had even heard of this singer? By raising such a fuss, you have allowed his messsage to be broadcast to millions more people than it was before, basically before now, the only people who heard his message were ones who already agreed with him.
Third, we need to get past this issue as a country. There are people who are gay and lesbian and there are people who believe it is wrong. That will never change, the key is to find a way to work together to make this country better for ALL people.

I appreciate that many of you who believe that homosexuality is a sin responded in a respectful manner – not against the homosexual, but rather the action of homosexuality. Despite this, however, I find that many of you are claiming with confidence that homosexuality is a choice. Being a homosexual myself, I can say with complete certainty that my interest in men was never a conscious choice and began at a very early age. Many of us do not hesitate to condemn homosexuality as a sin, but what is it that makes my love for another man any different than another man's love for a woman? I don't believe there is a difference, and until someone can offer a credible reason other than "this book says so", I think we should makes decisions based on logic rather than blind adherence to a philosophy. It is also worth noting that heterosexuals often claim that it is a choice, while homosexuals claim it is not. Who do you think is more likely to know whether homosexuality is a choice?

Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice has mental deficiencies. Why would anyone choose to be ostracized, ridiculed, and attacked all the time? McClurkin is still gay, he just hides it well. Why is this even an issue? I for one do not care one iota what anyone's sexual preferences are, just as I do not care what their religion is, I vote based on how they would potentially deal with certain issues. We are wasting time and breath on something that is not our business to bother with. We have a war in Iraq, a dollar that is spiraling down to peso value, a new scandal in time for the evening news every night, and the whole country is worried about a couple of dudes or women kissing?!

Wake up people! The sad thing is that those who spend all their time lambasting homosexuality are usually closet homosexuals themselves (Larry Craig, Mark Foley, 70% of the Senate) and out of self-hatred feel the only way to redeem themselves is to spew hateful speech or claim that their god does not condone it. I personally want nothing to do with a God who is loving and caring and yet hates the homos and those who do not fall to their knees at the mention of his name, sounds like a megalomaniac to me.

I will not vote for any politician who wastes our tax dollars and time on these stupid policies, and I am not the only one who thinks this way.

I take exception to this! The head line on CNN.com reads "Anti-Gay, Obama supporter blasts critics". Why is Rev. Donnie McClurkin demonized as anti-gay? He said nothing hateful to any homosexual. What he said was that God delivered him specifically and that he believes homosexuality is a choice. I believe I woke up this morning still living in America were we have a first amendment right to share our thoughts and ideas publicly even when many may not agree. I would hope CNN, as a leader in the media, would respect that right enough to be accurate and not spin Rev. McClurkin words around to get a more interesting headline!!

McClurkin's comments are neither appropriate nor courageous. In fact they are self-serving and vile. He, of course, hasn't changed anything about his sexuality, he is merely getting people like Mr. Pickle in Nowhere, MN to support him and send him money.

"I'm one of the guys who has been delivered from homosexuality through relationship with Jesus Christ. Homosexuality is a sin, period. "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom". You want to be free, accept Jesus as your Lord.

Posted By Jim, San Francisco, CA:"

Praise the Lord, brother. This is amazing.

Posted By Rejoicing : October 29, 2007 3:04 am

I think I am going to barf. Have you ever considered you were Bisexual? That is, if you actually DO have sex with someone of the opposite sex. Or, are you so hung up on the Lord that you are repressing your true nature and being celebate.
(treating Church like AA so you don't "fall off the wagon").

In any case, if you are happy, great. But have the decency to be accepting of those who won't deny their true nature and are proud of the lives they live. And here's a news flash, many gays include religion in their very fullfilled lives. God loves us all and it should be about how we treat our fellow man, not fear of God.

I think it is ridiculous when any one person generalizes something they do not understand.

For him to say that homosexuality is a choice and God delivered him from it, is ignorant.

But I do not agree with the backlash from the gay and lesbian community.

There backlash is from a fear that his turn around will result in a harder fight for equality, etc. Which is understandable, since it has happened before.

However the backlash will only feed into the negativity of his comment.

His comment is bias. Maybe being gay was a choice for him. But it isn't for everyone.

Religion doesn't solve everything. Religion itself is a spiritual perspective on how to live one's own life, not how to live everyones' life.

One day people will learn…hopefully.

Anyone who knows Donnie Mcclurkin's story understands that his deliverance is not really about not acting on gay desires. This is a man who was molested over a period of years of his young life. I think his deliverance is more about him not acting out the behaviors that he was taught as a child that was molested & raped and less about being gay. I don't believe being gay is choice, I feel you're born that way. But I believe that Donnie Mcclurkin is mislabeling what has happened in his life as being saved from a lifetime of homosexuality. Either way, this shouldn't reflect negatively on Obama.

he's ocnverted? Hmmm. I doubt it – DNA is difficult to change unless you are God.

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For those saying gays are showing intollerance to the views of this bible beating nut job…I have to say, that's an illogical statement. It's the same as blacks show intollerance to the views of white supremacists, or that jews show intollerance to the views of Iran's president. It's not intollerance to speak out against hate mongers like McClurkin. Sorry, but God did not deliver you from being gay. You still are gay. You're just not acting on it…or are you?

Even the Catholic Church agrees that homosexuals are just born that way. I don't agree with their teaching beyond that point, but it's a start. I think what really angers people is when people try to say they are "cured" of same-sex feelings. Part of me wishes to ridicule McClurkin, but I also just feel sad for him, and whatever issues he is dealing with.

To the person who said "How dare anyone try to discredit his experience with your own." I say it is my absolute right to do so. How dare Rev. McClurkin stand on his pulpit, provided by Obama, and criticize MY life? And that's exactly what he is doing. If he said "I was cured of being black, of being Irish, of being Jewish", etc., there would be an uproar.

Here, in America, everyone gets to speak, and if McClurkin is going to do so, you bet I'm going to get my say in too.

when are all you people going to get over this dumb little myth about the jewish carpenter boy? what's destroying our society is not homosexuality, not a lack of faith or sin, not even george w bush and his reign of error; no, what's destroying our society, or at least retarding its growth, is institutionalized religion and the abuse, small- and even closed-mindedness, and infantilism it produces.

Hillary for certain!

It's a proven fact that almost all so called ex-gays end up back to who they always were…gay. It's not a choice. And for those ex-gay'ers who deny this fact, they probably are the ones having trists in air port and rest stop bathrooms.

Shame of CNN for posting this story. I understand you want Hilary for president but this is just ridiculous. Go ahead people, vote for one who authorized the war in Iraq without doing her research. What Judgement she has, ha! It's amazing how people are making this story a voting issue. It's so pathetic.

This guy has got some nerve. "Hey, I'm homophobic and I'm the victim!" He says he loves the "sinner," but the people he is talking about do not view themselves as sinners. And guess what, we live in a free society and they are just living their lives how it works for them. They are not hurting anyone or trying to dictate anyone else's sex life, whereas he seeks to change them in the name of love. His words have not been twisted–his thinking has been twisted. And as for whether it's a choice, I don't care! DNA, free choice, what does it matter? It's a person's private live in an area that affects no one else. Live and let live!

Only in a state as backwards as South Carolina would this fly in the first place.

i cannot believe how ridiculous this country is about religious and gay issues in politics! I really scratch my head sometimes and think, when are people going to look at whats best for EVERYONE in this country! Who cares what someone does in there OWN home, they aren't hurting anyone, i think dropping bombs on people is a little worse than what someone does with there own choices for who they love. How about we look at whats going on with the economy our international standing, the environment, everyone getting health care, like most other countries, education and money we are spending on this war and the young men and woman who are continually dying in a country that most people in this country dont even know where its at on the world map. Reverend McClurkin is just another person more concerned about himself and his own 5 minutes of fame then what really happens in this world. OH and by the way, he is kidding himself if he now doesnt have gay thoughts, if he really is a man of god, then guess what, god loves everyone, even the ones who lie to themselves, if he really knew god, he would know that.

It is still very interesting to me that the moral issue of homosexuality is so polarizing in the U.S. when in fact we have much greater concerns of morality. Those who claim that homosexuality is bringing down the moral rite of the country need to analyze some of the other issues that they have obviously become immune to: murder, rape, prostitution, molestation, incest. These moral issues truly affect others. These are crimes.

If we look at some of the Biblical quotes posted under this blog, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

First, the Biblical translation of homosexual in this passage was for a word that no one actually knows a meaning for, but is speculated to be a form of male prostitute. Secondly and more importantly, take a look at the list of other acts that prevent those from “inheriting the kingdom of God.” Why is homosexuality such a concern when idolatry, sex for pleasure (not just procreation), robbery, and drunkenness are a much more prevalent issue?

The shear numbers of people who pick and choose which tenants in the Bible to follow truly are the religious zealots and those who are bringing about the moral demise of the U.S.

Is homosexuality a choice? According to most scientific research in the last 25 years, homosexuality isn’t a choice. Will either side of the polarizing issue ever concern themselves with scientific fact? Generally no, because why would they concern themselves with fact unless it is self serving?

Mr. Obama,
Once again your judgment and credibility have taken a huge hit. It is concerning that you would align yourself with Rev. Donnie McClurkin. It is even more concerning that you did so without investigating his stance and any of the issues. The fact that you and your campaign were caught off guard when Mr. McClurkin started spewing his rhetoric shows that you have very poor judgment, are disorganized, out of touch and not ready to lead this country.

After your completely disastrous decision to “pick up the torch” from Jesse Jackson, it is surprising that you would align yourself with yet another divisive and unstable character. If your friend Mr. McClurkin chooses to deny his true nature, his true feelings and the person God made him, well, good for him. But the majority of Americans will judge you by the people you surround yourself and so far, I imagine there are a lot of heads shaking across this great country.

Your friend Mr. McClurkin speaks of choice and to the majority of Democratic voters you are not the right choice.

There was recently a study dealing with nematodes in which scientists were able to hardwire genetically sexual orientation. They could make the nematodes gay or straight. they theorized that orientation is, in fact, hard-wired, as there are naturally gay nematodes and naturally straight ones.

The only conclusion: God may not be falliable when He dictated the Bible, but Man WAS when he wrote it down.

Another reason to vote for Hillary. 'Nuff said.

Many in the gay community always preach about intolerance and how they want to be accepted by society. However, their intolerance of someone coming out saying their life has been transformed spiritually from homosexuality proves their real agenda. I support Obama 100%.

He's just going back into the closet for awhile for his public image. It makes more sense that God would hate warmongers who are selling off the White House to make a buck rather then bother with harmless private concerns.

Rev. McClurkin and all others who say they can be freed of their homosexuality and that homosexuality is a choice are ignorant. Can you be freed of your heterosexuality? I think not!

Barack completely lost my, and other gay-friendly votes, by allowing McClurkin at this concert (I know this for a fact, having talked to friends). McClurkin is definitely full of self-hatred – which, as his choice, is fine – but to inflict his beliefs onto others, and for Obama to think that's acceptable to a voter like me – big mistake.
Hillary has my vote now.

If McClurkin thinks he can pull this "love the sinner, hate the sin" foolishness and get over on people, he's got another thing coming. He preaches a hateful, dangerous message that repressing who you are is the only way to heaven. Please! This kind of thinking leads teenagers to suicide and creates Mark Foleys and Larry Craigs.

People hide behind the Bible to shield themselves from criticism all the time. They say, "You're discriminating against my religion!" Simply put, nobody's telling you that you can't preach waht you want, sir, but we are telling you that you are incredibly, dangerously, stubbornly wrong. End of story.

Wow, aren't you all spectacular. A fine example of how Christians are anything but kind and caring towards their fellow human. How could one be so blind as to not see that no one would choose homosexuality, a lifestyle that pits them against the likes of self righteous zealots like yourselves. Take a good long look at yourself and then at what you believe "Christian" to mean. Odds are you are not living that lifestyle when you judge others according to what some antiquated book states.

Obama has my support. Thanks for not pandering to all these hatemongers who claim to be for peace and acceptance, yet can't accept Mr. Mclurkin. Mclurkin's voice deserves to be heard just as loud as any liberal's. Don't back down. And what's with this " I'm seriously considering changing my support because of Obama's association with this man" crap? Mclurkin is human. He's not spreading hate. Just because someone's oppinion is not your own doesn't make it hate. People deserve the politics of old. People don't want change. Politics of old would've said kick Mclurkin off the concert bill. Thank you Obama for standing tall. Mclurkin spreading hate is one thing, Him relaying his experience is another. And nobody knows for sure if us gays are born this way or not. Nobody knows if it's reversable or what. So people, when you say stuff like "everybody knows gays are born that way" you relate someone's experience, not Mclurkin's. I'm gay and I leave all options open. Maybe I was born this way. Maybe not. Maybe, it's a mix of different factors. One things certain, I won't discount someone else's experience.

So, McClurkin dates a lot of hot women now? He has a steady girlfriend? He has a girlfriend he calls sometimes? He'd like to date but can't find the time? He sounds just a little tiny bit gay to me.
In the 'small world' of gospel music, his 'reformed-gay' gimmick might seem plausible. In the larger world of politics and entertainment, less compelling. In the daily news, almost unbelievable. Sorry.

Whatever! Just another Jesus freak in denial about himself. I would love to see his stash of porn.

Isn't this the third time in less than a week in which an article about McClurkin and Obama was placed on the Ticker? Are you guys at CNN running out of news material, or what?

Gee whiz, I'm so bored!!!!!

Thank you to Mark of Manhattan and Adam of SF.

The hypocracy of the religious right (and even the religious left for that matter) is what made this gay christian leave the church. My God and Savior does not judge who people are, for they are made in God's own creation.

Furthermore, the only sins that the bible really dictates that come from God are those established in the ten commandments. Last time I checked, homosexuality is not contained within those. Therefore, I feel justified in my belief that God is ok with who I love.

I really do pity those that believe the Almighty is nothing less than a God of love.

Perhaps CNN really is the "Clinton News Network." I have seen so many negative stories about Barack Obama lately and nothing but sunshine directed at the Clintons. If you looked at CNN, it would appear that the election is already over. This is clearly the strategy by the Clinton camp and their people within the media. How can any Democrat support someone who voted for the war in Iraq? It baffles me.

Adam of San Francisco, CA, you took the words out of my mouth. As a Christian, I am amazed at Christians who can quote from the Old Testament and Paul's letters but avoid the Gospels and the words and teachings of Jesus as if they contained pornography. Just who is your Savior? My Savior said nothing about homosexuality, but talked a lot about a new covenant, love, and forgiveness.

People are born perverted – true. People are even born idiots – true dat. But people being born homosexual is like saying unicorns exist! Get real – sexual orientation – is a choice.

As a black male I fully stand behind Rev. McClurkin's statements. He is simply stating how God has impacted his life. There is nothing bigoted about what said. Rev McClurkin wanted to change as a result of his own convictions, who is doing the hating here?

It seems that the United States is the only western nation where homosexuality is still argued and debated – as a Canadian, I have full and equal human rights, including the right to marry. I'm so proud of my Canadian citizenship. The comments I've been reading only demonstrate that America is a full thirty years behind us.

Just once, I would like to see a headline that said, "Reality delivered me from God."

Please stop with the hateful ancient superstitions.

I don't know why Obama is still wasting money on this race. He has no hope. He should get behind Hillary like the rest of us.

Listen I was born with the 'blackest genes' there are! Nobody is more steeped in African American culture than me – yet – I will be the first to admit – the black vote never secured anyone in political office year to date in this great nation! So how stupid is Mr. Obama and his O gal and all of his puppet friends – to think that it will succeed today?

this is just a semantic argument. two different definitions of homosexuality are in play. one is, if you don't act on homosexual feelings, then you're not a homosexual. by this definition, it is possible to change (but who you are inside has not changed)

the other definition is that its about who you are attracted to – irrespective of whether or not you ever act on it. with this view, its possible to be a virgin, but still gay — and you can't change since who yourr wired to love is not a concious decision

My support and more so respect for Obama has really diminished as result of this story. McClurkin can say he has be cured from "homosexuality" as a result of God, religon, or faith, we'll see…I would not bet any money on it.

Yes he has been set "straight" I also have been changed from blue eyed blond, Caucasian Irish decent to African American.

Youre a fool trapped in an idiot's body!

He is not in support of Obama – he is just about clearing his name. I think it is bad when preachers throw their influence to the dogs. This reflects the defect in his character – he is vain and seeks vain glory!

As if,
As if Barack Obama really needed to secure more of the black votes in the United States. Does he not understand that while 74% of the black population disapprove of homosexuality amazingly 24.7% of the black population are poverty stricken. So understandably he wants the black vote, however, I am sure that he wants money for his campaign as well. As I have researched I have come to conclude that while 25% of African American citizens are poverty stricken only 5% of the homosexual in this country is poverty stricken. Obama while I understand that need to secure votes please understand that you are not going to go anywhere in your race against Hillary by swaying in votes because of race, sexuality, or gender. After all there are more than 15 million gay, lesbian, and bisexual residents of this country. Most of which you have angered. Good luck with the campaign we will see you as a back runner in 2012.

The only thing I hate in this issue is CNN!!!!! CNN is truly the Clinton News Network. Why not find someone that's a nut that's going to vote for Hillary. That shouldn't be to hard to find.

How can one discount Mclurkins experience because it's not your own. How dare anyone try to discredit his experience with your own. Why does it matter? It doesn't. Why are people still being caught up in the media's hoopla? People are petty. The thing that Mr. Mclurkin is being accused of, the LGBT community is doing to him. And that's a shame because I'm a part of that community. Obama's got my support because his judgement is proven. Somehow in all this talk about Hilary's supposed greater experience and petty banter about religious belief, that has been missed. The politics of old are created by us, allowed by us, the people. If we truly listened to what Mr. Obama says and stop being puppets of the media, then we'd see what he truly stands for. Change. You won't see change if you're still looking through old lenses. Upgrade your prescription people.

Some have said, what is the issue with Donnie's comment that he is no longer homosexual. I don't have any issue with that more power to him and praises be to god for delivering him. What I have the issue with is him stating that "it is a choice." That could not be further fromt he truth. I can only speak for myself being an openly gay male but, I knew from my earliest memories (5 or 6 yrs old) that I was different. I liked girls and thought they were pretty and wanted to be around them but, only as friends. When I looked at a boy it was a different feeling I wanted to touch them and feel them next to me and was aroused. So to me I have an issue when anyone says it's a choice. I pose the question to society to think would you choose to live a life that you are hated, discriminated against, can loose your job, be denied housing, even attacked because you are LGBT and even disowned by your family? The logical answer would be NO!!! I would also like to put the thought out there to the african-american community to ask why do you think we have the highest rate of HIV infection? Here again the logical answer we shun and condemn so much that we make our males ashamed to be themselves. The black male is forced to hide and be on the DL resulting in hurt to our females. There is so much more to be said on this subject but there is just not enough space here to say it but, I will say until our community can come together and stop the condeming and fighting we will always struggle. Accept people for who they are not what they are doing behind close doors. What is going on behind close doors is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

For those like Adam in SF who say they need a verse, rather than asking their consciences or, better yet, honestly asking Him themselves, here's one such verse (actually two, since Jesus is citing Moses):

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

The Pharisees were desirous of drawing something from Jesus which they might represent as contrary to the law of Moses. Cases about marriage have been numerous, and sometimes perplexed; made so, not by the law of God, but by the lusts and follies of men; and often people fix what they will do, before they ask for advice. Jesus replied by asking whether they had not read the account of the creation, and the first example of marriage; thus pointing out that every departure therefrom was wrong. That condition is best for us, and to be chosen and kept to accordingly, which is best for our souls, and tends most to prepare us for, and preserve us to, the kingdom of heaven. When the gospel is really embraced, it makes men kind relatives and faithful friends; it teaches them to bear the burdens, and to bear with the infirmities of those with whom they are connected by marrying and having children, to consider their peace and happiness more than their own. As to ungodly persons, Jesus goes on to say that it is proper that they should be restrained by laws, from breaking the peace of society.

I guess you would just have to be a homosexual to know what it's like. I am gay and for whatever reason GOD did not see fit to change me after years of prayer, personal inner conflict, and almost suicide (wait suicide is a sin to). So I guess if you're a homo then you're just screwed. I've known many of the "changed" "delivered" "former homosexuals and they are absolutely delusional and aren't fooling anyone who is homosexual or has any intelligence outside religion. My grandfather and great-grandfather were both hellfire and brimstone southern baptist preachers. Do you not think that if some miraculous transformation is possible that surely I could be changed because of my devout upbringing and all the people who prayed for me. Well let me tell you brothers and sisters and ain't real. We are made like this, whether you like it or not. Condemnation and judgement are just as bad as being homosexual. Barak is anti-homo, but just won't come out and openly say it, he's a closet anti-homo and for that reason I can't and won't support him. I have to look out for my best interest and for many others out there that can't defend themselves and their sexual orientation. Get over this issue and move on to something that truly matters in this world, like Iraq, the hungry, good education, saving the mother earth on which we live. Come on people is it really that important to you who I love and have been in a fourteen year, very fulfilling, loving relationship. If the Lord Jesus Christ can't change us I seriously doubt you can, so move on and "live and let live".

CURE? Hypocrite alarm… I hope this man does not get caught in some alley or bathroom somewhere trying to score a trick… he has the classic symptoms. From higher pupils they have fallen.

Good for him to have the courage to stand up and tell his story.

Who cares if you are straight or gay. I know people who are both. They are still good people. The majority of us prefer the opposite sex and that is the way we are. So just learn to accept each other. It will never change. If everyone was alike it would be a boring world!!

Didn't God create man in his own image? So is he saying God made a mistake and is fallable? Either way, this guy is a joke. I feel sorry for him that he can't be who he really is.

Here's an idea, why don't all these gay atheists find their own gay candidates who don't believe in God to run for president and vote for him instead of complaining about what Christians are doing? Thats the American way. Its sad that instead of supporting Rev. McClurklin his fellow Christian, Obama feels the need to pander to the homosexuals, transexuals and atheists.

I am definetly re-considering whether I will continue to support Obama. If someone chooses to be gay or was born gay, so what. People can do whatever they want. This whole thing is very disturbing that Oback would even associate himself with this man.

There is NO such thing as an ex-gay. They do not exist. People are born gay. It is natural and hard wired in the brain. It is absolutely impossible to go from gay to straight or vice versa. The only thing you can do is pretend to be straight.

Unfortunately some gay people fall victim to religious brain washing just like straight people do. Being gay is a God given, biological, unchangeable, innate, wonderful part of a person.

This man should be a ashamed of himself. He is doing a great deal of harm to young gay kids, who need love, support and above all to be proud of who they are.

Well, know we know both McClurkin and Obama are idiots. One more reason to vote for Hillary.

I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD PASTOR DONNIE McCLURKIN FOR TAKING A STAND IN THE EYES OF ADVERSITY. ANYONE CAN BOW DOWN AND BE A COWARD, BUT IT TAKES A REAL MAN/WOMAN TO STAND UP AND TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE.

Hmmm. If Rev. McClurkin is an "ex-gay", then I wonder why it is that I just read an interview with one of his (male) ex-lovers, describing a relationship that just ended in late spring of this year?

I'm sure glad Julie Green is "free from homosexuality." I'm also sure glad I'll be voting against Barack Obama and people like him and Julie in the primaries.

Obama is a phony and a panderer. After what will be eight years kowtowing to the in-your-face religious, it's time for a change.

God help us get past the stupidity and fear! Until the church embraces all human kind with unconditional love, it is nothing more than a political machine. Throwing stones at the homo harlots is not what the Bible suggests Jesus would do.

"What BS. Honestly, can't we as a country get beyond this whole gay-straight dillemma? People are gay, people are straight, people are bi. NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW let's focus on the REAL issues at hand — like Iraq, and education."

Well thats a good question. Why cant we? The reality of the situation is that this country is a nation of hillbillys. While some try and come off as sophisticated, intelligent and educated, when issues such as homosexuality and abortion come up, that veneer cracks and we can see the people of this nation as they really are, ignorant, hate filled bigots who have found the religious mumbo-jumbo justification for their own bigotry. And truly, there is little hope for change.
As for Obama's position in all of this? Well, actions speak much louder than words. He has proven himself to be another hate filled, Bible banging bigot. My question is, why is he not running as a Republican? Thats where he truly belongs. Oh… I forgot, it's not likely that Rebublicans would elect an African American.

What a shame…..it is 2007 and yet still we think like narrow minded beings. One cannot change ones self from being gay just as one cannot change ones self from being straight. Get with the program…..if a person is homosexual then they will always be homosexual. The same as a straight person. Stop being stupid and for goodness sake stop using Jesus as your reason for being narrow minded bigoted people!!

To Bob Pickle: Bible-based morality? I would like to know what kind of a person gets their morality from a book that commands rape victims be forced to marry their attackers and that genocide is an okay thing as long as God told you to do it.
If you quote one verse, quote them all.

I find it very interesting that people like McClurkin can claim that homosexuality is a choice when it has been proven by science that it, indeed, is not. For someone…anyone…to say that the only group who doesn't know that homosexuality is a choice is homosexuals is nearly as ignorant as this, the latest way politicians are trying to use a story to gain popularity.
Senator Obama's backing of this man and his hate-inspired attempt at a popularity angle is nearly as ignorant as the man we have in office now. Unintelligent diatribe, such as that from McClurkin, shows the type of President Barack would be. That is if he even the slightest chance at getting elected.

OH Man – here come the bible versus condemning homosexuals!! Well Mr. "We must do everything the bible says" – lets try these on:

"Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34)

Do you believe women are inferior to men? Did Jesus believe that?

"One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)

Do children of single parents not deserve to go to church?

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. " (1 Peter 2:18)

Do you think the Civil War was bad and we should all keep slaves?

I want to see a bible verse where JESUS CHRIST condemned homosexuality – but no one can show me that. But if you believe everything that is in the bible than you are also a sexist and a racist. I hope you are then I would at least respect you for being consistent. But no – all the religious fanatics are just picking and choosing the verses they agree with and using it for their own political gain.

Religion and spirituality are wonderful things. But using religion as to try to mold yourself into what society wants you to be is wrong. Would that not be considered to be a sin in itself? Dishonesty towards oneself, will only lead to dishonesty towards others. Being gay is not a choice, being dishonest is.

I encourage anyone in the LGBT community who is offended by the way Obama has handled this situation to switch your support to Senator Clinton, who you know will say all the right things to you during this campaign season (just not so loudly that the rest of America will hear) and then as President will put you back in the same dark corner you were in for eight years during her husband's administration.

Or support John Edwards, who has already stated that his religion prevents him from fully supporting gay rights and who you know isn't really that comfortable around you.

Or support Bill Richardson, who got caught off guard saying homosexuality is a choice at an LGBT forum.

Or support Dennis Kucinich, who will give you everything your heart desires when he becomes President of Munchkinland.

Or better yet, support a Republican candidate, who wouldn't be caught dead within 500 yards of you (unless they're running for office in New York City or Massachusetts).

So go ahead and shoot yourselves in the foot over this media-created non-controversy (who had ever heard of Donnie McClurkin before last week?– obviously Obama hadn't) and boycott Obama, the one candidate who has consistently and forcefully spoken out for gay rights and who you know will not abandon you in the general election or the White House. Like the saying goes, you get the government you deserve.

If he is attracted to women then I bet he was bisexual and learned to suppress his attraction to men.

People once attacked left handed people, cruelly punishing children and forcing them to write with their right hands, even at the detriment to their education.

People once attacked red haired people as "tainted" by the devil.

I don't think anyone claiming God "delivered them from homosexuality" is any less horrifying than someone bleaching their red hair to avoid a "devil" image or a child being forced to switch which hand they write with.

I bet anyone who "switches" orientations is really a bisexual. Sexual orientation is what you feel attracted to, not what you act on. You see these 40, 50 year old or older men having marriages break apart not because they don't love their wives but because they don't have a physical attraction to them.

This is a moral issue; a moral issue to dispel misinformation that sexual orientation is some sort of "choice" and a moral issue to not expect people to change what they are to please others. A gay or bisexual person shouldn't be a afraid of getting into a relationship with someone they love, all because of misinformation, misunderstanding, and widespread bigotry.

This really confirms my opinion of most gays. Hostile and foolish. They only want their opinions to be heard, and they will hurt many others just to get their point across. Pastor McClurkin has alot of support from Christians across the world. It's not just a 'black thing' He's travelled the world for years sharing Jesus and deliverance prior to this. I'm disappointed that Barack's Camp waivered because it shows he's trying to please too many. That wasn't the right setting for Rev. Sidden, but the foolish gays probably thought it would make an impact. Wrong audience. Bible believers. Why aren't the Gay and Lesbian groups actively protesting the Republican candidates who are against their lifestyle?

WHAT 74% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS DISAPPROVE OF HOMOSEXUALITY THEN PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY BLACK MALES HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV NEW CASES YEAR AFTER YEAR AND LIVE ON THE DOWN LOW-FURTHER MORE OBAMA IS NOT READY TO LEAD THIS NATION HE IS TO YOUNG AND HIM BEING BLACK WILL NEVER GET HIM ELECTED-

Beyond the major religious tenents, I don't take the Bible or organized religion literally. Technically, the Bible says it's okay to stone people and own slaves. Moreover, the Bible has been translated many times and by many people with many different personal interests. With that, everyone is entitled to their opinion AND to separation of Church and State. Some religions are accepting and others are not. If religion and politics were truly separate then it doesn't matter what people believe or don't because it's left to the individual and others agree to disagree where necessary.

God doesn't deliver anyone from anything. What a fraud! Theres soon to be an opening at Oral Roberts University, might want to get your resume in there Rev.

Finally, someone has the guts to be politically incorrect. McClurkin has in mind the things of God, not things of men. Do not believe the media hype, I am a bio tech scientist, and no genetic research has proved one way or the other. It is always a choice in deciding your action, even if it is against your feelings or impulse!

SURE GOD DELIVERED YOU FROM HOMOSEXUALITY- THATS WHY YOU SNEAK AROUND LATE AT NITE SEEKING MAN TO MAN SEX- SUCH A HYPOCRITE.

If God's power can defeat death and evil. Don't you think he could also "reverse" homosexuality?

What makes Rev's statement's inappropriate and prejudiced was that he was "SAVED" from homosexuality.

Believe what you want but if the guy was just sharing his experience it would be all of "I tried it but it wasn't my thing." He DID condemn homosexuality – he opened that can of worms regardless of the bible, or backlash or whatever other arguments are being put forth.

Did he show intolerance? Absolutely. As a typical religious person and reverend, he is just another hypocrit.

Wow, now THAT'S a change. This "reverend" is a two-faced fool. Obama? Not his problem; he's playing the political game.

As far as those upset with the rev giving GLBT community a bad name? Are you kidding me? The man condemned homosexuality – why shouldn't the community be upset with that?

It's been my experience that "faith" causes more hatred and war than anything else. This is yet ONE more example of that. Keep on quoting that book folks.

The Rev McClurkin said: "homosexuality is a choice and that I overcame homosexual desires through prayer."

Following that twisted "logic", then ALL sexual orientation is a choice, right? That means that heterosexuals made a concious choice to like members of the opposite sex after considering liking members of the same sex?

Or, like most ChristoFascists, does the Reverend believe that sexual orientation is a one-way street only?

Bull manure, Rev…bull manure!

I am frustrated with the energy that my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters waste condemining Rev. McClurkin. Every candidate is going to have people in their campaign that we don't like or don't agree with. The media likes to create controversy and the lgtb community often falls for it and loses focus. I'm not agreeing with McClurkin by any means but it is imperative that the progressive community not get caught up in these sideshow antics. We can't afford to lose in 2008 and suffer through more disastrous neo-con policies. There won't be a country left for gays OR straights to enjoy.

Bottom line is sexual orientation — gay or straight is not a choice. You don't choose to like guys or girls just like you don't choose to be right or left handed. Ignorance breeds fear and fear breeds hate. I agree with the previous poster who said while it's possible he no longer acts on his urges, it's not possible to not have them. This captures the reality well. Finally, we're all Americans, gay or straight. Religion and politics are separate and for good reason. That has been lost under Bush who has made gays his enemy which the rest could unite against. That was planned and is politics at its worst. What we need is to restore the respect and compassion we once had for each other as Americans and let people live their lives in dignity and without judgement.

On one side, this is a man who has supported the gay community and is a strong supporter of civil union, on the other, he is a candidate who obviously did not consider the outcome of having a reformed homosexual as a performer. I'm gay, my message is that i was born gay, no prayers would change that. however, this is an example of how the gay community can become hostile in such a situation because apparently our way of life is threatening to some people. should we be concerned with a black/gay scandal even before the primary? the last thing he needed was a political debate that draws attention to black homosexuality. i think he has made a big mistake.

If one chooses to jump off the Obama bandwagon because of his association with Rev McClurkin, I feel were never for Obama in the first place. Is it not possible that two groups can have differing opinions, yet maintain commom interest in other areas more relevant? Get over it. I support Obama, however my support is not contigent on all of his other supporters sharing my ideas.
Bill

They absolutely sound twisted, and mostly by CNN who is targeting Obama by associating him with something that was said by a third party, not Obama or his campaign team.

Those who are criticizing McClurkin for being a bigot simply because he believes homosexuality is a choice, are being somewhat bigoted themselves. He's not saying anything against gay people, but uses himself as an example to support his beliefs.

I always wondered why the gay community is adamant that homosexuality is genetic. I assumed it was to be treated as a race of sorts, but I fear they will experience a "Be careful what you wish for" moment when people inevitably consider it a disease instead.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.” Their bloodguiltness is upon them."

And in the New Testament,

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals1, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Of course, we are not to put any person to death, that was the law in those days. Scripture does teach of morality……and both Old and New Testament teach Homosexuality is sin, it is wrong. Man having relations with man cannot produce "fruit" or children, neither can two women having relations. The Lord created Adam and Eve, He said be fruitful and multiply. Homosexuality IS a choice, just like any other sin. Christians don't HATE homosexuals, not true Christians, what we hate is SIN. The Bible does not teach us to hate each other. It is good to see Christians speaking out on these issues from a Biblical view point.

To God be the glory.

CNN You stated “gay and lesbian backlash against Sen. Barack Ocala’s presidential campaign”

NO backlash exists when a few demonstrators from a Pride committee hang outside the event. If it were a backlash it would have been 2,500 demonstrators as there were 2,500 concert participants.
As we ALL suspected this so called uproar was a deliberate smear campaign by Obama’s opponents and the Media. But you all missed one fact in your plotting. You gave Obama FREE advertising for the event. Controversy sells. Keep up the good work

How someone's faith and sexuality fit together is a very personal, real issue for a large number of Americans. Barack Obama stands for my feelings on so many issues that my endorsement for him does not waver, but I have to admit being a bit disappointed in this situation. What I regret most is that Christianity and homosexuality have such an agonizing division between them that people seem to think they're mutually exclusive. They're not. I don't believe in the ex-gay thing, but I feel less anger and more pity for the people who convince themselves that that's how it works. The anger I reserve for the people who've told those victims that they can't worship an awesome God and feel love for someone of the same gender at the same time without it being a sin. It is anything but. I honestly don't think he was or is endorsing any kind of anti-gay or ex-gay propaganda by including this poorly deluded man in his tour- he didn't choose him for that reason. Barack Obama is a brave man for trying at all to show that having faith isn't the exclusive property of the far right. His faith is important to him and he is standing up for that, the same as he stands up for his values and opinions on any other issue. I'm disappointed that someone putting forth that propaganda remains on the tour, but again, Barack Obama is someone who I feel speaks for me and others on so many levels, it will take a lot more than that misunderstanding to negate my vote for him.

If homosexuality is not a choice, how come some get married, have children, and wake up the next day to be gay?? On the other hand, some have been gay all their lives and boom, decided they are not straight??.What is wrong is bad, what is bad is unacceptable, and what is unacceptable should not be done. DO we have to remind you gays how you were made? ok UNION OF MAN AND WOMAN GET IT???. Stop putting your hopes in some politician to make everything right. Homosexuality is is a choice and a wrong choice period.

More religious brainwashing. Great, just great.

Why are gays and lesbians so upset about a man telling what happened to him? Why does it bother them that someone did not want to live the life-style? This is absurd. I'm not saying whether homosexuality is a choice for everyone or not. But everyone is different and He found a way out of it. The best scientific explanation for why homosexuality exists is found in behaviorism…meaning that it may be learned (not necessarily chosen), but learned (Like pavlov's dog), whether people like to admit it or not.

Obama should not be represented by the comments that someone made for him in a fundraising and social event that he put together. Rather actually go out and listen to him speak. His words are inspirational and he really has a lot of great ideas. Go to his website, read his campaign ideas, and look at his past, he is a visionary leader – I hope that you all agree.

One has the right to believe that homosexuality is wrong, so I will not fault a man for his beliefs. However, I still find it extraordinarily distasteful: even though he means no harm, through his words he is contributing towards one of the last bastions of prejudice.

"I'm one of the guys who has been delivered from homosexuality through relationship with Jesus Christ. Homosexuality is a sin, period. "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom". You want to be free, accept Jesus as your Lord.

Posted By Jim, San Francisco, CA:"

Praise the Lord, brother. This is amazing.

Oh yes you can change your sexual orientation, Posted by w9w0e90e, the same way Rev. Donnie McClurkin overcame his homosexual desires "through prayer" and great faith in God. Please don't give up. God is Love and He wants to heal you from this iniquity. Just come to Him.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are dropping in Rasmussen's latest national poll, as Rudy improves by 9 points against Hillary in two weeks. Link.

Here in Canada all the marriages have been primarily White Males older men 55 plus and from the pictures most are over weight and balding and they are refered to as the WHALES (White Homosexual And Liberal Elites) they hate straight marriage George Bush. Broom Hilda seems to have a lot of WHALE support and they are a vocal well organized bunch but you can see she has aged 10 yrs in the last year its too much for her. The world needs a Mitt Romney from a Canadian perspective.

Anderson Cooper, you are the only reporter making a big stink about this very dumb gay issue. This is a guy who chose to sing in a choir at a Barack event. Who are you to make all kinds of judgements over his "worthiness" to be part of a campaign? Barack is a uniter and brings people from all walks of life to his campaign. He will not discriminate based on age, race, gender, sexual preference, or sexual opinions. I have seen this news reported on no other news site. This is making a mountain out of a molehill. You're just going to have to accept that some people have different opinions on gays. This guy has done NO hate crimes against gays, nor were any of his opinions solicited in regards to Obama's campaign. Please, drop it. It's ridiculous and slanderous.

THE MEDIA NEEDS TO SHUT UP SOMETIMES AND WRITE STORIES THAT IS CONSIDERED NEWS!!! For you guys along with other news outlets yall tried to drive a wedge between Barack, gays, lesbians, Rev. McClurkin, preachers, but more importantly African Americans. TRUST ME WE LOVE BARACK AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUT IN MASSES FOR HIM IN THE PRIMARY!! I was born and raised in the Low Country and they are on board from Jasper, to Hampton, to Beaufort counties. But we me now in Columbia I see the excitement for Barack. When the rest of my fellow friends/family/strangers come back home and see that Hillary cant WIN on the fact that Bill was GREAT to blacks alone they will see who Barack is as a person and FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM as a person as some many of us have!!

My god,

Barack Obama has more important things to worry about than whether a singer he enjoys and happens to book believes homosexuality is a sin.

I don't mind people fighting that viewpoint — I would, and do — but calling it a strike against Obama is absurd.

What BS. Honestly, can't we as a country get beyond this whole gay-straight dillemma? People are gay, people are straight, people are bi. NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW let's focus on the REAL issues at hand — like Iraq, and education.

Come on, people. Let's get beyond this — it's really starting to waste time!

Dear Reverend McClurkin,
If you want to truly be an "Obama Supporter" as some headlines state, you should stop making divisive statements. You can believe what you want, but what is the point of knowingly blindsiding Sen. Obama?
Sincerely,
A True Obama Supporter

I don't seem to see what all of the hubbub is about. So what if some gospel singer says that he is no longer a homosexual. There are worse things that happen in the world!

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We do not need another religidiot moron fanatic in the White House. I don't care if he's a Republican OR a Democrat.

We just don't need any more deluded people running this country.

I'm a gay man and I really can't understand the bizarre "gay and lesbian backlash" against Barack Obama that the article describes. Obama has run one of the most inclusive campaigns in recent memory. Mr. McClurkin is allowed his opinions and, even if I disagree with him, is also allowed to support the candidate that I support. Gays who are coming out so strongly against this are doing nothing except hurting the gay rights cause, by coming across as just as intolerant and hateful as the people we are battling against. Listen to the message McClurkin is giving and please, get off your high horses. Obama is the best hope for the advancement of all civil rights in this country. By being so up in arms about this, you are just making all gays look petty and spiteful. That's another added prejudice against me that I don't need, thank you.

This just shows how obama flip flops from Politics of hope,a joke to a jokester who doesn't like gays,all he has showed us Change to gospel tours and 40 days of what,Its not Presidential to me.A singer who gets to preach on stage with Obama campaign to claim for votes from African Americans there is no change here,and Obama never ever mention this on his website ,wonder what else he's got hiding just like hiding from votes in the senate,100 of missed votes from the elected office he was elected to do , say scrwoo Chicago.he doesnt what to engaged in any of it, need to explain all those missed votes.yeah you represent Chicago alright.

McClurkin deserve praise. I'm one of the guys who has been delivered from homosexuality through relationship with Jesus Christ. Homosexuality is a sin, period. "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom". You want to be free, accept Jesus as your Lord.

Rev. McClurkin had only related his own personal experience with homosexuality. He has not infringed nor condemed anybody else's lifestyle choice.

For anyone to condemn Obama, by mere association to Rev. McClurkin, as being anti Homosexual is absurd.

Thank you, Lord for Donnie McClurkin. The philosophy that homosexuality is acceptable and not a choice is debilitating our society. Let us continue to love our gay brothers and sisters and pray they'll follow Rev. McClurkin's example. Faith works because God is faithful.

I truly think Obama is doing both himself, his campaign, and Americans in general an injustice by having this man speak for him and his campaign. Any man that chooses to affiliate himself with something as vile as the ex-gay movement is no man I want as my leader.

God Bless Rev. McClurkin for speaking out…There is hope for us all, through the love of the Lord Jesus Christ and for what HE did for us on the cross.

Thank you Rev. McClurkin for pointing out that when we sin, it is not against other people, but against God!! So few people grasp this truth.

As one of the people who took part in the vigil, I have to say that Mr. McClurkin was evasive in his comments.

He also accused lgbts of wanting to harm children. Conveniently he would not talk about that.

Don't judge the guy. He went through the experience, not anyone else.

Mark
WatchingHillary.com

This story has helped me make my decision on whom to support in the California primary – and it's DEFINITELY not Barak Obama. Over the past two weeks he's encamped with the type of religious zealots that caused me to abandon the Republican party during the 1980 campaign when Ronald Reagan handed it over to Jerry Falwell and his ilk.

I cant beleive Obama even panders to the militant gay comunity, everyone knows homosexuality is a choice but them..

Mr. MCClurkin does not know what he's talking about. Most intelligent, sane people know that you cannot change sexual orientation and it is most definitely not a choice, but rather part of the human sexual continuum. Mr. Switcheroo was able to make the change because he was never truly gay to begin with. Got it? Good.
And please spare us the religious nonsense. If there is a god up there (where?), he would be very upset that he screwed up putting us humans together. But gee, how could he throw the cosmos together in record time and screw up making us dopes, huh? Some of my fellow human beings are really pathetic!

I am with Mc Clurkin, in that I understand what it is like to struggle with homosexual thoughts. I too, believe it is wrong and I am glad that he is standing up for what he believes in. I think it is great that Mc Clurkin was able to be free from homosexuality.

74% of African Americans disapprove of homosexualoty, sounds like a winning strategy for Obama to get the black vote back… politics as usual. Divide and conquor, right Barak? Thought you were going to be different. Same old devisive tactics that got the Republicans elected!

How Obama stands behind this man is reflective of his character. I once was a supporter, but seeing how his staff operates first hand I can tell you, he is the worst Democrat running; nothing fresh here.

Hopefully, somebody will ask McClurkin more about his transformation. When he says he's "no longer homosexual" does that mean he no longer acts on his attractions (i.e., homosexuality is something you do) or does that mean that he is no longer attracted to men (i.e., homosexuality is who you are inside) Without that distinction, his words don't have much meaning…

McClurkin's comments as reported are courageous and appropriate. May we have many more preachers like him, that love the sinner and hate the sin, and aren't afraid to say so.

And may those who disagree with McClurkin show tolerance toward the opinions of others, even his opinions. Intolerance toward and bigotry against Bible-based morality is nothing that any group should be proud of.