CNN's Bill Schneider takes a look at Clinton's debate answer on licenses for illegal immigrants
WASHINGTON (CNN) – CNN's Bill Schneider takes a look at the politics behind offering driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, and reports the issue has caused a headache for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
In response to David in Dallas TX:
No we are not short-sighted. Since the illegal immigrant does not have a history of driving experience they will be forced to have non-standard insurance, which is extremely expensive. The average middle class American cannot afford this insurance so it is a safe bet the below minimum wage illegal immigrant will. It does not protect American citizens. This is nothing but a cheap political ploy to win over potential voters. Do your research before calling others names.
You're so right Bob Roxboro! We need someone in office "who won't trample the interests of the American working people". Perhaps, your brilliant idea for a candidate who would fight a war for oil coporate profits at the expense of the American middle economy will suffice.
Hillary did not hit a bump she hit a wall! If you have video recording of the debate and rewind the question and response you clearly see two things from her answer. One is that lied on camera. She actually denied saying she thought the NY Governor's idea of giving NY illegal immigrants driver licenses was a good idea, but then quickly tried to blur over her mistake. Secondly, Hillary failed to take a definitive position and defend it. She tried to blame the federal government (in which she is a member of) for not reforming illegal immigration.
about illegal immigrants I really do not care unless they are into drugs and want to sell those drugs to black kids like is done here in griffin ga. three blocks from the local police dept. not to mention the drug dealing mexcican or hispanic cops who are part of that police dept. other than that the only concern of mines is this–america could have been as nice to black males as it has been to black women and illegal immigrants. black males they are not considered human these days. Black Folk should have listened to Barry Goldwater and gone home. yet here we is still talking about hang-man noose's and rights which will never be given. SAD. To the good honest illegal immigrants=go get some bro's live live well and be happy and may God Bless You All.
As a matter of fact, Bob Roxboro has a real novel idea folks. How about a Presidential candidate; who won't trample the interests of the American middle class, by starting a war for coporate oil profits,while charging the middle class higher gas prices to damage the middle class economy? That's a great Presidential candidate for guarding the middle class interests. Who'd you vote for in the last election Bob?
Hey all you deport em'- America Love it or leave it stooges....
Lets hook you up with Lou Dobbs, maybe you can get your B-2 pilot licenses and follow Lou on a bombing run to Mexico. I mean heck, why not fight 'em there rather than here, right?
And when thats's over and our Apple orchards and farms are devoid of labor and crops rot in/on the ground, you can jump all over that lucrative less-than-minimum wage job without benefits that is being 'taken away from you' ...any takers? Beuller? Beuller?
How does a $10 apple sound?
A fake name and address on a real drivers licenses is no safer than a fake name and address on a fake drivers licenses.
Hillary must have been the role model they used to come up with the lead character in Damages, that Meryl Streep plays so convincingly. I think Meryl ought to get first dibs on playing the real Hillary and how she got rid of bad news/reviews/what have you like she did Vince Foster. It should be worth another Academy Award!
It would be nice if some you idiots would do your homework. Hillary said she understands why Spitzer would want to give illegal immigrants a driver's license (1) You have to pass a test in order to get a license. That would get self taught, possibly dangerous drivers off the road (2)It would get them into a computer system. (3) They could NOT use the licenses to vote or board planes. The only problem with the idea is that it is sensible – a real NO NO in our political farce.
Hillary hit a bump? Perhaps it was her political tombstone she just ran over.
Hillary was all over the map – and STILL can't give a straight answer. She is finally being seen for the double-talking, confused, say-anything politician that she is.
Add in she LOVES special interest money, dogged by campaign scandals, and has the highest negative ratings of ANY Presidential candidate (EVER) – this cow is cooked!
"I was before giving illegals driver's licenses before I was against it. But, then I was for it again although it is a bad idea."
Funny, but I thought it was the NY Governor doing this not Mrs. Clinton. And if I am correct, I thought I read or heard somewhere that over 10 other states already do this, so is this just another feigned indignant attitude towards her? If people who are so crazy about illegal immigration, then are you screaming at Bush for not securing your borders and cutting down the budget of the Border Patrol? Are you mad that two good men doing their job at the Border are sitting in solitary confinement for 12 YEARS after wounding an illegal while Scooter Libby got a pardon? Are you boycotting all companies that hire illegals? Or is this just another republican slam against someone not really involved in this episode in the first place and who they would hate for anything she does? She said she didn't think it was a great idea but what is the Governor to do? Don't you think it is time to get over this intense and disgusting hatred for someone just because of her name? It is unbecoming!!
"It would be nice if some you idiots would do your homework. Hillary said she understands why Spitzer would want to give illegal immigrants a driver's license (1) You have to pass a test in order to get a license. That would get self taught, possibly dangerous drivers off the road (2)It would get them into a computer system. (3) They could NOT use the licenses to vote or board planes. The only problem with the idea is that it is sensible – a real NO NO in our political farce."
What a crock and you know it. The Democrats for a very long time have wanted to have people vote without showing any ID. If they ever passed a law that stated you could use a DL, these people would be able to vote. And it was in N.Y. that Democratic legislators wanted to alow aliens to vote because "it's their city, too."
Naiveté Ms Barbara Doyle, Naiveté!
There is a good op-ed piece in the USA Today this morning by someone in Homeland Security offering a point of view that suggests that giving illegal immigrants drivers licenses helps regarding tracking potential terrorists. He also cautioned people to think logically rather than emotionally, which most Americans are trained, like Pavlovian dogs, to do these days. Food for thought...
So if illegals, who willingly broke the law by entering the country undocumente, don't pass a driver's test, they won't drive? Yeah, right!
Just by being in this country they have showed disdain for the rule of law in the US, so why should they apply for a driver's license or not drive if they fail the test?
It won't make the roads safer. It will just cost the state more money and reward criminal behavior.
I say when they apply for a driver's license, arrest and deport them.
One thing we need to change in the USA: children born in the USA of non-citizen parents should NOT be given automatic citizenship. They should be deemed citizens of the country of their parents.
And, oh by the way, I think we should ALL (regardless of party) band together and demand term limits for Senators and Congressmen.
So lets get this straight. Hillary wants to give every kid born in America 5000 bucks. Mostly to Illegals who scam this to no avail. Not to mention the cost to run this every year and in the end in 18 years that 5000 bucks will be the same as 500 bucks now. Health care to Illegals to the detriment of Americans. And now wants to let Illegals have drivers licenses.
What next? Should we pay for their cars and car insurance too?
Exactly what country does she think she is running for office in?
Don't let this issue die America. Flog her till she leaves the race with this.
Anybody But Clinton.
YOU need to do your homework. When getting a license in NY regardless of the tier (1,2 or 3 – 3 being for illegals), you would be eligible to register to vote. Once you are registered to vote, you are eigible. It is illegal to ask for an ID at a polling station. Even though the ID would be stamped "NOT FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES", those working the polling stations would never see the ID, because it is illegal to ask to see it. Many dems argue that asking is in effect a poll tax ??????????
I don't understand that but what do I know.
i dont think its sensible to give them anything all you need to vote in alot of places is a drivers license, why dont we just have an open world voting system to let anyone on the planet vote in OUR elections. By the way SPINSTOPPER you do need to fear the illegal drivers, one of the things actuaries look at when determining the rates of an area is HOW MANY UNINSURED DRIVERS ARE IN THE AREA. Your insurance premiums can go up if you file an unisured motorist claim, once again lets not make them conform to us, lets all conform to them so our country can be worthless like theirs. Im sure all this makes me a racist, well good.
I don't think the intolerance would be at the level it's at if we still had the good paying jobs, benefits and opportunities to succeed that America used to have. The truth is, all that has been taken away by the ultra rich and profit-hungry multi-national corporations who refuse to conduct business fairly and pay their fair share of taxes.
The illegal immigration issue focuses the spotlight somewhere else but corporations and special interests are the ones that have completely taken over our government, especially during Republican control, creating laws and policies that ensure the demise of the middle-class since we are no longer needed in their "new world order".
Just as the American people are currently doing, we can force the issue of security and illegal immigration to be addressed. However, we won't get anywhere by doing it in an inhumane manner and ignoring moral virtue and compassion. These are the qualities that made America the greatest nation in the world. However, after witnessing what Republicans have done while they were in power, if they are given control again, what's left of America will be sold off, we will lose our freedoms, our security and our way of life.
Those of you thinking this is a good idea, tell me why you even think that any illegal is going to come 'out of the shadows' to pay a fee for the license and pay the insurance premiums when they are currently driving around without same and paying nothing but the cost of gasoline. Spitzer claims this is on the basis of 'security'. Yet, since we supposedly can't deport them, how does the governer plan to enforce this? You believe the government is going to find all the illegals and force them to get a license and pay insurance? Hardly, just another political ploy to get votes.
I think this whole line was much to do about NOTHING. people only catr about drivers licenses and insurance when someone totallys their car.
I think it is funny as heck to see people say Hillary is waffling. Tell me of the major candidates which one isnt?
Dems be smart if Hillary was the candidate what could the republicans say about her they werent screaming 6 yrs ago? Anything new? I dont think so.
Illegal immigration is a disease that plagues our nation. The symptoms of that disease are depressed wages, unemployment, overcrowded schools, collapsing social systems, increased crime, overflowing jails and prisons, and more by a culture that has invaded our Republic and demanded we become like them instead of attempting to assimilate and become more like us. IT HAS TO STOP! Tom Tancredo seems to be the only candidate who recognizes this and is stepping forward and offering a cure for this disease; immigration control and secure borders.
The REASON our laws have not been enforced is because of the influence the Council on Foreign Relations has on our government and their plan to form a North American Union by the year 2010. Check it out before you criticize or argue with me.
If anyone from the so called Top Tier of either party is elected in November '08, our Constitution and Bill of Rights will be shredded, Old Glory will be thrown in the trash, we will exchange our dollars for ameros and it will be the last election WE THE PEOPLE are allowed to participate in.
If 85% of the American people want something done about the disease, you had best get your money, your voice and your vote behind Tom Tancredo.
Bob, Roxboro, NC : November 1, 2007 1:55 pm
Please enlighten me about Obama's stand on illegal immigrants and till when he wants to keep soldiers in Iraq.
I guess as a thinking person, you will know the fact that Obama supports giving license to illegal immigrants. You may also know the fact that he wants troops to stay till 2013.