Does Giuliani have an advantage over Clinton? It depends on the poll.
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Who holds the advantage if the two leading presidential candidates from both parties become the eventual nominees?
Two polls out Wednesday offer differing answers.
A new Quinnipiac University poll shows former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani would best New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head match up, 45 to 43 percent. Meanwhile a Pew Poll out Wednesday reports a different result, showing Clinton with an 8 point lead over Giuliani, 51 to 43 percent.
It's not entirely clear why the polls show such different results, though Pew conducted their survey earlier in the month than Quinnipiac and included a larger sample size. Pew's poll surveyed 2,007 Americans from October 17-23 while Quinnipiac surveyed 1,636 from October 23-29. Pew's poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent and Quinnipiac’s margin of error is 2.4 percent
– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Hillary will win hands down. she is saving the best for last. giuliani is acting more like bush everyday. which makes him more of an idiot....greg
The reason that the polls are different is that polls are not generally accurate – especially now with a whopping 50% of voters still undecided.
American – Think on your own. The media is trying to shove a Guiliani vs Clinton election down our throats – don't let it happen.
Quinnipiac University was consistently closer to the 'actual' results in the '04 Presidential race if that helps. A Giuliani/Clinton match up will be nasty indeed. Many, many warts. Giuliani would come out on top as his warts are not as 'evil' as Senator Clinton's coverups. On the margin. Her proven divisiveness combined with her non-likeability index will serve to sink her 'boat' in the long run.
or this one!!!
This is like asking the American public if they would rather lose their left eye or right eye. When given this choice, I'd rather be blind!
The Media keeps Pushing Rudy and Hillary. I don't think either one of them will win their party's nod.
Not One vote has been casted and the Media keeps telling everyone it's over! Give me a break!...
Lets see where both of them stand on Illegal Immigration....They are both of the same mind.....
We will have other people to pick from and it's all about Immigration!!
It won't be Hillary or Rudy.
The Pew's poll was actually supported by the Democray Corps poll of the same survey period, showing Hillary Giuliani by 4 pts.
It is still early in the game. While people have known and scrutinised Hillary for at least over 16 yrs which Bill as president and then her as senator, Giuliani is an unknown outside the new york city, who was a one day wonder on 9/11.
In my view, Giuliani is unelectable, and his poll standing, vs Hillary, will fall badly after the nomination. There will be more skeletons coming out of his closet. To know him well is to hate him. Just ask his ex wives, kids, the new york firemen and policemen. Just consider the following:
1. He is a father whose own children would boycott his inauguration.
2. He is a husband whose first wife was his cousin and whose current wife can't remember how many times she married.
3. He was a cross-dresser.
4. Gay-tolerant and prochoice, Giuliani contradicts, and even demeans, the "values" that have defined conservative America for a generation.
5. He is a Yankee fan who has been rooting for the Red Sox.
In short, he is a snake oil salesman, with conduct unbecoming to be the president of the united states.
Since anyone who cannot see Hillary would be the best President is clearly insane, and since insane people should not be allowed to vote, why do we need to have an election? And since the epitome of evil, George Bush does so much damage to this country every time he wakes up, we should make Hillary President tomorrow. Immediately the world will be a much better place and Hillary can ship all those insane Republicans off to Guantanamo or somewhere where she doesn't have to hear them and be distracted from making America perfect again like it was when Bill was in charge.
It's sad when readers must tell the editors that the headline should read:"Clinton V. Guliani: Who beats Whom." Who is a subject; whom is an object.
I personally am a huge Hillary fan, but...I do not understand why the media will allow America to decide rather than force feed her. Rudy WILL NOT win the nomination. No way any Conservative would allow it and if by some grace of God, Rudy is the next President, I'm crossing to the Canadian border. It would Cowboy Diplomacy Part II and with a much scarier ending. Please America wake up; he is a fraud, disgusting, and a fear-mongerer.
Biden can take Gulianni on all issues. Gulianni is a opportunist at it's worst plus the man probably has 9/11 tatoooed on his chest. It's funny he always talks how great he was on 9/11 but New York Firefighters and 9/11 Surviors think differently. Biden made some valid points at the last debate about this man he hasn't made New york safer after 9/11 he hasn't fixed anything the 9/11 commission rcommended. All talk and no action isn't what we need for America.
How does Giuliani expect to win the election when he's campaigning on a platform that 70% of America is in disagrement with?
They can say all they want about Hillary being unpopular, but the Iraq war is far more unpopular than she is.
Obviously, polling at this stage is highly unreliable. None of the polling at this point in earlier campaign cycles has been predictive of anything except name recognition.
Hillary despite all odds will be a better president than tyrannic Guiliani who believes in ruling by the sword or War monger. Please Americans we shouldn't vote for this guy he will be worst than Bush, counts on sept 11 for his best moments instead to be ashamed than 3000 people died under his watch. IT is really disengenious for this guy to take advantage of this sad moment to be the main reason for his candidacy meanwhile his poor communication between fire fighters and NYDP let to more deaths than the actual incident.
I will vote for Obama/ Edward ticket because hillary is a continuation of the status quo. The Clintons and Bushes were not ordained from God to be the only ones presidential. If Hillary will release documents concerning her failed healthcare plan of 90's and her involvement which are the bases of her experience and atleast speak the truth, appologise for all deaths for the fail Iraq policy she voted for and Iran just to pander to the Jewish lobby than reason.
She is a media candidates and those of her husband friends just to compensate for political gratitude during his presidency thank God for TIm Russert he is my HERO.
giuliani is an idiot. i like it when the republicans talk about family values and the some of their party jumps out of the closet and shows them what the word hypocrite means. the republican party supporting a dimwit in the whitehouse, supporting a no win war, creating more enemies than frends. even the old worn out rag karen hughes is jumping off that sinking ship. we owe the chinese so much money it's no wonder they send painted toys with lead in them. our deficit is now the highest in history, our health care system a disaster and if congress dares to try and fix the problems out pops king george with the veto stamp. george h w bush vetoed the family leave plan which shows like father like son. our borders are not secure and our illegal immigration problem is beyond repair. good job georgie, now the next idiot in line (giuliani) wants to continue over the same cliff. even vladimir putin is upset with bush and his missle defense shield. we bought off n korea for now. so what's next? attack iran and do something else stupid. maybe that little buck tooth rice thinks she brokered a peace deal with israel and hezbollah but it won't last long. clinton v giuliani? gee, i don't know why we would want to change all the wonderful things bush has done for the wealthy and corporations in this country. when he and cheney leave office, both will laugh all the way to the bank and leave behind a huge mess to clean up if it even can be. giuliani is not the man.
If you use 2004 as a baseline (Bush 62 million, Kerry 59 million), Giuliani automatically starts at a disadvantage because he loses quite a few million social conservative voters who had voted for the President-they probabaly would stay home. So that makes it roughly Clinton 59 million Giuliani 56 million. But then assuming that Giuliani can pick off some of the voters that had supported Kerry last time from Clinton, he'd need to pick up say 1.50 to 2 million such voters. That means about 3% of the Kerry voters would have to cross over for Giuliani.
The first question that comes to mind then is by what logic a person who didn't like the President would like Giuliani-the only answer I can think of is social issues. Perhaps someone who is hawkish on national security and also an economic conservative but is very sensitive about say abortion rights or gun control may be one of these cross-overs. Question is, would that be 3% of the Kerry voters?
Interesting race indeed: But its' generally going to come down to the same 3 states (Fla, PA and Ohio). Whoever wins 2 out of the 3, wins. I have no doubt that Giuliani will win Florida. I just don't know about the other 2. There may be a few other states exchanged but they probably wouldn't be enough to tip the election-Iowa may swing back to Dems, Clinton has a shot at Arkansas, Giuliani may pick off Washington State.
My gut feeling was telling me up to June that Dems would win this time but after the immigration bill died, I think the GOP united itself on other issues and I'm quite certain that the Republicans will hold office for one more term b/c nationally, national security is still a big issue. And the Dems just don't have anyone in the running that is strong in that area. I really doubt that they will nominate Biden or Lieberman, the only 2 who are somewhat credible there among Dems.
I would choose any of the leading Democrats over Giuliani in the general election. Rudy continues to disappoint me with his divisive nature and poor judgment. I cannot in my conscience support the Republican frontrunners when they purposely avoided the debates dealing with the concerns of the black and Hispanic communities. We need a president that will represent the interests of all Americans, and these Republicans appear sadly lost in that respect.
Giuliani will never be the candidate because of the religious right. Look for Mike Huckabee to "surprise" in Iowa and roll from there.
Mike from green bay....really?
Hillary will defeat Giuliani completely in General Election. I am looking forward Republicans numbness at General Election. Hillary will make Giuliani's nose flat and snub. Republicans are dreaming like Obama, but it is impossible dream, so wake up.
Hill would beat him....easily
No Thanks Can we have another?
Both would not change a thing and most people deep down know this. I believe Ron Paul is the best choice in giving the people more choice at the local level and reducing the size of the federal govt. Who would want more federal govt intervention in our lives??
Giuliani does not have chance. Try Senator McCain vs Clinton, in which case Hiliary goes home to NY and Bill.
Done with Republicans! How do we forgive ourselves for the 911 horrible tragedy in not getting Osama Bin Laden who is reponsible. Stop covering your heads and look at the real picture. Take a real good look at our country. Children are killing children, A war is still going even no one can actually say why?, Medicare is in trouble which means we aren't taking care of the elderly, Veterans Benefits are the pits, Economic picture is bleak even though the Republicans say it's strong. Housing Market for example. Jobs lost everyday due to companies sending their business overseas for child labor. Enough is Enough!