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WARNING THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS REDICULOUS AND BASELESS

("Hillary is ready to lead").

Not to simply bash a particular candidate but this is something that I just cannot understand. Anyone, Hillary supporter or not, please show me ANYTHING that supports that statement. WHAT HAS SHE LEAD?!? What great accomplishment can you point to that supports that statement? Being a former first lady and being a politically active person does not make you a leader, I have seen nothing from Hillary that shows she has an ounce of leadership skills within her, yet her supporters run around like she lead us through the great depression or a world war. She isn't that great people. Remember, just because a candidate shares your similar viewpoints doesn't mean they have what it takes to lead congress to get anything done about those issues.

A. Thomas, you put up a good posting, but there you go playing the gender-card again..

Barack was the only non-white person (except for Bill Richardson, but he's not as obvious) on the stage. I don't hear Barack or many other people go on about how he is facing an all-white monster.

BTW- a woman ran for President in 2004, and Hillary Clinton completely ignored her candidacy.

Sara..that is not true at all. Bill Richardson didn't say anything against her in fact if I remember right, I think he praised her because she was smiling at him.

To those nay sayers to Hillary, here is another bad news for you, showing that Hillary is electable.

Hillary will beat Giulian in the next election. All she needs to become the next president to win one more state than John Kerry. A recent Quinnipiac poll found that Hillary is leading Rudy in 3 swing states that John Kerry lost ot Bush: Pennsylvania (48%-42%), Ohio (46%-40%), Florida (46%-43%).
Another key fact: In all three states, sizable majorities say they're not too likely or not at all likely to change their minds, leading Quinnipiac to conclude that her "support appears to be as deep as it is wide."

Quinnipiac also notes that Hillary is the only Dem to beat Rudy in all three states.

To be in denial is bad for your mental health. LOL

Yeah, think about this people: Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton. Think the current state of negativism in Washington is a coincidence. Deny Hillary the vote...change the atmosphere in DC. Go Obama!!

Even though its always assuring for some candidates to be leading in polls, polls are statistically meaningless. At best they can gauge public sentiment in a very small area, but not be used to represent a state's population voting preference. Hillary's position as the inevitable Democratic presidential nominee is incorrect. If are into polls then do the following, take all the different recent polls and calculate Hillary's "front-runner" lead and you will see that statistically she is in a three-way tie (her, Obama and Edwards). Her peformance in Tuesday night's debate definitely hurt her appeal. Hard-core Hillary supporters won't be swayed but Independent voters will pick up on the elements of her poor debate performance, things like honesty, truthfulness, specificity, and openness. Democrats need a candidate who doesn't have a lot of political baggage like Hillary and Edwards.

It is interesting to watch the Democrats Presidential nomination race this year. It is historic to have a Mexican-American, African-American, and woman as strong potential candidates. But who has done the most complaining of victim status, Hillary Clinton! Whine, whine, whine about the men ganging up on me! WOW! If she is complaing about the men in her own party, can you imagine her being the Democratic presidential nominee going up against a Republican who is going to pull out every nasty thing he can to pin on her? Like Obama said at the debate, Republicans feel very comfortable running against Hillary because its a fight that they are used to since the 1990s.

Advice for Hillary.

If you stand for what you believe instead of trying to please the political arena you are in at the time. You do not have to try to remember what you said last week. It will be the same week after week. ok i'm sorry second after second. She changed her mind pretty quick at the debate

To. Meks, Florida

Try to make things sound good with your 14 page comment, But the facts are she did change the way she stood on giving immigrants drivers license during the debate. She has never been consistent on any issue. And clarifying that the license can not be used to enter airports and such does not change the fact that the word Illegal used in Illegal immigrants means they BROKE THE LAW and should be arrested not given a privilage. When they come into this country legally they can receive a drivers license like every full blooded american does. And make them speak english.

I don't know how anybody can vote for Hilary because all she does is treat the American people like idiots. We all saw her say two different things in the matter of two minutes and that was on national television. HOW CAN WE EXPECT HER TO BE HONEST WITH US BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. The answer is she won't. She takes money from powerful corporations that only care about making money and not what is in the best interest of people. She won't change things and our government will go on like it is right now. We need a person who is honest, trustworthy, and experienced. We need someone who can bring the two parties together to get things done. I don't want a president that treats me like an idiot, I WANT BARACK OBAMA!!!

And so, why is she running for president? She won't be upfront with the American people, she sichs her staff to bite anyone's head off who challenges her, she doesn't seem like she's enjoying this ride, and she screeches and squeals signaling she may have a headache or something when she calls herself being 'presidential' in her speeches. I think Hillary should stay in the senate and perhaps think about running in 2012 when she may have more experience.

Guys and Ladies,

Some of the sarcastic comments here supporting hillary are not put out by Clinton supporters. Take some of the bragging comments with grain of salt. These are infact wb bloggers of opponents trying to pin air of arrogance on her supporters. Please beware. Though the gangup just started i think Sen Clinton should defend her positions with strong words but not aggressively. If she goes aggressive, believe me the gangup going on in the media right now will also continue. She needs to find the right balance and not be bothered about the debate issue because it is a non issue. This is being hyped by the media because for ten months they have been looking for meat and any slight chance they will blow it out of proportion. You accuse somebody of taking hawkish stand on one hand and on the other hand you say you don't know her position on issues. Thank goodness elections are about real people and not the left loons that does not understand that no liberal will ever win a presidential election in US again. If you are not a centrist or moderate conservative, you will never win a general election. That is simple. Times have changed in our time and most moderates understand that National Security is much more important than political gamesmanship. That alone, writes off any anti-war candidate from winning the general election. Do your research and find out who the left loons are promoting for the Dems nomination and ask yourself why Ted Lamont lost in connecticut. The moderates do not want leftist liberals to govern them because they will ruin this country. This people are divorced from realities and lack basic morals to grow an enduring societies. The problem with the Dem party is that the left loons want to pick the candidate for general election (just like Ted lamont in connecticut) and this is why you are seeing the current overhyping of the debate fallout to look as if Sen Clinton was overly outperformed by other candidates which is not really the case for anybody that watched the debate unless you already have an opinion. My point of view is that Sen Clinton should be clear in her statements if the other candidates honestly do not understand her positions but this is politics and campaigns use the media to arrange 'narratives' so they can use it as a platform to wedge a more aggressive campaigns. I believe that happend on tuesday. You only need to listen to the political commentators from the organizing media (MSNBC) on that day to understand this was actually a deliberate efforts to open the race rather than honest intent to moderate views of debaters. You need to listen to the venoms being spitted by the entire MSNBC team before and after the debate to the point you just wonder if they realize they are on National TV. Yesterday, Chris Matthews used the word 'her abusive' and quickly corrected himself while making comments about Sen Clinton. Even when she was talking about giving illegal aliens non-federal driver's ID license just for public safety measure, they distorted it that she wants to give illegal aliens drivers license. Please watch the debate or look for the transcript. They refuse to mention that with the exception of Dodd all the other candidate are in support of full drivers license for illegal aliens while Sen Clinton said giving them special drivers license which caannot be used for any other purpose except for driving and insurance is acceptable looking with the existing circumstances in NY. The truth is being obfusicated because once it is known that the special drivers license cannot be used to enter airports or be used in any federal government standard Identification purposes, most people will not see this as an issue. This is the reason they hid that aspect and was hyping the slogan 'she wants to give illegals drivers license'. Unfortunately yesterday afternoon the Homeland Security Secretary, chertoff bought into the project and even said that will be the new standards as soon as the project is successfully launched in NY. How many people saw the news? I bet very few. Why? Because their line did not work and so they went back to playing gender card. Another question – If Tim Russert went through the trouble of getting Bill Clinton's letter, do you think he should not have told the audience that Bill Clinton has released more of his government's records than all the former president's combined. Check the interview with The National Archive Institue's director, Mr blanton. He chose to hide that fact because he wanted to cast negative aspersion and create an opening for other candidates. That is the only place i think he erred though i was not surprised because i have watched his last three episode of 'Meet the press' and i could see this coming. Quote me on this, he collected that letter from one of his guests on 'Meet the Press' two weeks ago. What i could not understand was why Sen clinton did not immediately call him out because anybody watching his show in recent times already knows he was going to go for her but as far as i am concerned, she's running for President and should be prepared for anything. The campaign decision not to call him out because they worried that may set male voters against her is just dead wrong. Sometimes people just want you to fight when you are right on issues and on the release of records she is dead right. Verifiable facts support her position and she should have challenged his warped assertion immediately and put things into the right perspective and go ahead to answer directly his question. This would have quietened a lot of things. Please note i think Tim should ask that question but i think he should have started by honestly stating the fact that Bill Clinton has released more presidential records than all 41 presidents in US history. Let investigative journalists do their work and disprove this.

I have seen the John Edwards' ad and it is inspiring. I have not picked up the same kind of passion and committement from Hillary Clinton. She is a very smart woman, but I do not think she can inspire people to follow her to make the big changes she has promised. I am not really convinced that she believes in them herself. Why would she defend the influence that lobbyists have in Washington today if she really believed in changing the way things are done? Why would she vote to give George Bush what he will take as a green light to invade Iran because she is switching to "general election mode"? It is not reasonable to expect the candidates to have detailed answers to every question a voter might have, that is why character is an issue. It is comforting to know where John Edwards is on an issue before there is time for any polling. I think he is the President we can follow to restore America's honor, not only abroad, but here at home in the way we deal with each other.

Hillary does not stand a chance against the republicians. Republicians hope she wins. She has been so inconsistent. partly backing bush in Iraq and Iran. Then she says she don't back them. Republicians will eat her alive. John Edwards is the best possible choice.

Wanna see Democrats, independents and everyone this or that side of the polical divide abandon the election process? Put Hillary up as the agent for change. Can you say, Bush-lite with more political dynamite than Bill and George's terms in office combined? Won't vote for her even if it means Rudy gets in.

This country gets what it deserves – (and I believe it deserves so much more)- but that's why we ended up with Georgie Inc. & Co.

If Hillary losses in primary; republican will win again; no doubt about that. Eward is ignored by people even he has run for the vice-president post in last election. Guys write this down; Obama will never win national election for 20 more years.
That means loss of Hillary is Victory for Republican.

People talk about Hillary's electibility; she is the most popular among black, Hispanic, south asian, east Asian and name it. If only 30% white vote her she will win.

Robert, Cleveland, OH

You're emotional about this and emotion can be good. However, look deeper.

"But this effect has long gone, he lapses in polls and only money and constant presence in Iowa keeps him afloat."

How is he raising money then? He hasn't accepted money from special interests, while Hillary has.. BUT he continues to raise huge sums of money. Again, from regular people, not PACS and special interest groups. Clinton supporters get so emotional over this, similar to how Bush supporters were in 2004. Take a step back and look at where she stands on the issues.

I guarantee that you, a Clinton supporter, can't tell me or anyone else where she stands. She won't say it. That my friend is troubling. Hold her accountable and stop with all of the emotion. If she wins, I will certainly support her, but she has to tell America where she stands. Isn't that what a candidate is supposed to do?

Wallace

I solute Hillary for her life time passion for advocating women and children. This kind of person need to be the president of the USA, not a trial lawyer or a hype man with disguise identity (Obama).

It doesn't matter.

Kim, probably you should bookmark it, to look later and realize how stupid your prognosis was. Obama will NEVER win the nomination and he will NEVER win general election (first, because he won't be nominated, second, because America won't vote for him). I'd rather to beleive that Richardson somehow pull the plug. Obama is done, it's over, he should have waited until August and then jump into the campaign, maybe he then could play a "fresh face" card. But this effect has long gone, he lapses in polls and only money and constant presence in Iowa keeps him afloat. As for Edwards he losdt before she entered the race, the guy lost even his own state last election, didn't do anything as a senator, plays "laborer" while buildin $4mln mansion and all he can do is to try to attack Hillary. Clintonn may potentially not to win Iowa, but then she'll swap the rest of the primary states and Super Tuesday. And this is a very good thing for America.

Clinton is not the most electable candidate.
Obama was right...there is a reason why the Republican debates seem like Bash Hillary nights. They never talk about anyone but Hillary.
Thay WANT to run against Hillary because she has a mountain of baggage and her candidacy can easily motivate the Republican base as well as a good percentage of independants to vote just to oppose her.
With obama or Edwards they just don't know what to do with them and the motivation of the Republican base against them simply won't be any where near as powerful.

As a female veteran, I've been in a male-dominated profession. I'm ashamed to see Hillary play the gender card, complaining her six competitors were unfairly "piling it on" in the debate. The attacks were on her policies and her (lack of) ability to answer a policy question. As a front-runner, she should expect to have to defend her policies without crying foul play.

After all, as president, if Al Queda threatens another 9/11, she can't use the gender card and complain they are "piling it on" because she's female. She shouldn't use it during the campaign either.

Can Clinton be stopped? Boy I hope so ! The country doesn't need this divisive self centered woman any where near the oval office!

Hey, everyone needs to be a little bit nicer to Hillary Clinton. She said she lost that debate cause she got picked on by 8 guys. Everyone needs to remember, she's JUST A WOMAN! Geez. You can't expect her to be able to defend herself and her views. Where's Bill? He should be able to stand next to her. He's a man, he can handle debating with 8 other guys!

I sincerely hope Iowans say NO to:

Special Interest Money
Waffling on Issues
Dodging questions
Victim-Mentality Politics
Campaign Finance Scandals (Hsu, Peter Paul, Abdul Jinnah, et)
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton

Iowans should vote NO to Hillary!

Re: Thomas in NY who thinks HRC "was being punched by 6 grown men": it is weak for HRC (and her supporters) to use the sex-card as a defense. If she wants to run an equal race, it means equality across the board. She can’t cry when the boys pick on the girl. The DEM candidates always stand against the frontrunner. Period. She has reverted to this type of tactic because she did falter, more than once, at the debate. She was called out and can’t actually defend her policies or take an actual stand (vs obfuscation).

“It appears that Hillary generally does not criticize her fellow dem candidates…” Somehow calling Obama naïve and inexperienced isn’t below the belt, but questioning her iran policy and her flip-flopping is?

Not if you believe in open borders for illegal immigrants..

Hillary did hurt her chances of of winning in the debate, and it was not because the guys beat up on the lady. She has never been able to stand up for what she believes. She change her stand too many times to count during the debate to try to please everybody. She backed the Governor of NY for issuing drivers license to illegal immigrants but then she said she was not sure that was the way to go. She voted for the war in Iraq then she was in favor of bringing the troops home now she says we may have to keep the troops there for a while. She does not even know where she stands. Barack Hussien Obama scares me that any one would even consider him a possible canidate. The fact that his name alone scares me he has no experience at all to be president. He is the least qualified of both partys. John Edwards is the best democrates have to offer and people are seeing that. He is firm in his beliefs but has an open mind to the american people. He is a strong believer in Marrige look at his family. He is a strong believer in children look at his family. And he knows price you put on life because he lost a child at a young age, but he is not against giving people of the same sex basic rights and he is for giving a girl who made a mistake the right to choose. He holds for what the demcratic party stands for but is also best accepted by the conservative democrates. He is our best choice in 08. God bless John Edwards and his whole family.

Mark my words Obama will have this nomination sown up by mid March 08. He will win Iowa, NH and SC. Hillary poll numbers will slightly rise until Christmas, people are parking their votes with her because of her name. Most voters don't decide until two weeks before the polls. Obama 08!

While I have a great deal of respect for Hillary's intellect and her priorities, and I think her ability to build an vast war chest is amazing, I think that her qualities of careful calculation, hedging, and parsing of her words will cause her to lose the hearts of America in the end. While I'd love to have her as our next president, I think her personality is her fatal flaw.

I don't understand this thing about Hillary not being able to give a yes or no answer to what she is going to do a year and a half from now. It is incredibly irresponsible of the other candidates saying with a definate yes or no what they will do when elected, because no one knows what will have happened in the meantime. I think Hillary is the only one intelligent enough, and responsible enough, apparently, to realize this. If we think about it, not one of us can give a definate yes or no on what we will do tomorrow. Things happen to change things. Will you have an accident on the way home? Become ill, or have something happen to a family member? Many things dicatate whether your plans for tomorrow change. Let's forget the hatred and use some common sense here.
I hope some of you will read this–it is an article that makes sense on one of the issues.
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/OPINION03/711020350/1110

Let's not smear Hillary until she can't win, and this country goes on down the tubes. Go, Hillary

Hillary Clinton will not lose in Iowa because America wants to win this election. America does not want to punt the ball back to the self-righteous, indignant hateful right wingers. If the other Democratic nominees want to play their little attack games against the candidate, who will restore the progressive values that will move America forward, then, after Hillary wins the primaries, the other egghead mealy-mouthed so-called Democrats can join the Republican Party as they wish. We don’t need them on our team or in the Democratic Party at all. The other Democrats should be more focused on supporting a candidate that can take on the reactionary right wing. WE MUST MAKE A FULL PENDULLUM SWING TO THE LEFT. The reactionary reign has lasted too long and has crippled America. We can’t even stop Bush’s veto power and these guys want to attack Hillary? Please. We don’t need any superstars or egomaniacs. Our objective is to restore the progressive values for the people of America. While the other candidates have been shooting their chops and piling on the sure fire victor, Hillary Clinton has been taking it to the reactionaries whenever she could.

What is disappointing is that the other so-called Democrats are using the same tactics and tricks that the Republicans have used. When you come out your mouth and say stupid things like, “Hillary is unelectable”, you are just trying to make people think that Hillary is unelectable. That very statement is nonsense. Hillary is certainly electable because we will vote for her. Chris Dodd is a Republican. What is wrong with him. The Republicans say that they can’t wait to take on Hillary just to throw people off. They are playing tricks and laying plot like Richard III. The Republicans know darn well that they will not defeat Hillary Clinton. They need to stop playing. The attacks and the political games played by Obama, Edwards, Dodd and the other mealy mouths who took shots at her makes the Democratic Party look like it did when the reactionaries seized power in the first place. Those knuckleheads are adding momentum to the reactionaries.

What Americans must see is that this country has been so far to the right that we can’t afford to punt the ball back to the reactionaries. We must give the ball to someone who will carry it to the end zone with the ideology of compassion. Hillary is in the race to win it for the people. The other Democrats have their own selfish reasons and they are not true Democrats. The way the other Democrats play shows that they don’t really care about American people. The other so-called Democrats only care about themselves and their ballooning egos.

Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD.

To all misinformed Bloggers:

The polls in Iowa only represent Democratic voters who have made up their minds on who they are going to vite for. Recent analysis, shows that over 60% of caucusgoers haven't made up their minds yet and usualy don't until the last few (2-3) weeks before the caucus. This race is still up for grabs!
As for who will finish in what place? Iowa caucusgoers, please look forward to the general election and realize who has the best potential to win. Think about candidates make up, history, and issues. When we get to the general election, who has the best attributes to be President and who has the least of a history to exploit. This election will not be won on issues. If that were the case, John Kerry would be President right now. This election will be won by the only person the Republican cannot attack. So the only Democrat that can truely win is John Edwards. I believe he will make the difference because his major focus is making the world a better placee for our children and grandchildren, something every candidate should be saying every day. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.

Pretty freaking sure it's a Cyclone State.

NO

Hillary's poll numbers have been consistent in the state. If her supporters show up then she will do well if not win outright.

"Yes, Hillary is electable because:
a) She has raised most money and still has most money left for this campaign.
b) She has the most support from the women and black voters, of all presidential candidates.
c) Her election campaign machine is the most effective (based on her high poll standing) and efficient (based on her $ spent on $ raised).
d) In the dem primaries, she is over 25 pts leads ahead on Obama nationally and in many state polls.
e) In the next election, she will win all the blue states, win most purple states, and may also grab a few red states.

Is this not typical of a Clintonista?

She is electable because, but all the way from A-E there are no reasons for electing her, you know, those little bugaboos called stances on issues and ideas that are easy to understand.

You must work for the campaign.

You left out, "You go girl, Go Hillary go, she's the bestest and smarterest and Bill is so the still the bestest."

Bah, bah, bah.

I'm sick of the words "can hillary be stopped" in whatever context it's framed in; it makes it sound as if she's Godzilla, devouring whole cities.

DISGUSTING

Hillary '08!

Thomas in NY:
I give you credit for your loyal Hillary support, but your post today is a joke.

You say, "Did Hillary's last debate hurt her? Maybe, but considering she was being punched by six grown men...".

First, with the POSSIBLE exception of John Edwards, not one man on that stage did anything other than point out inconsistencies in her policies/responses.

Second, if you think that these men were punching her, do you trust her to face the likes of Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong II, Ahmedinejad, or even Putin?

She can't have it both ways. She can't say that she's tough, and then cry foul because she's "a girl".

Her campaign used this strategy of "pile on politics" to divert our attention from how poorly she did in the debate. And if you think about it, they were very effective, because it's dominated headlines all day, and has rallied some of the less savy women to her corner.

Give it time, the truth will be told and we will all be better for it.

I live in Kentucky, but I am sure Iowa voters are smart, they will do right thing proudly. I agree with Thomas, ny because Thomas knew about Hillary Clinton's ability more than other State voters. Hillary will win, she knows what she need to do for our Country. She is strong and powerful leader, two terms New York Senator proved enough. It was shameful debate that 6 male candidates and two vulgar fellow, Tim and William planned to attack Hillary by their scenario. I hope NBC fires Tim, I will never watch "Meet the Press" again from now on. American people are wiser than those 8 men, they will support Hillary strongly than ever, I will. First time Madam President, I am proud of Hillary Clinton.

The Clintons are notorious for their twisting and spinning in the political winds. Let's hope the winds are gale force this time to knock her over. We don't need dishonesty and polarization anymore.

Hillary MUST be stopped!! As a repressed homosexual, I find her strong-will and the fact that she has opinions extremely repugnent to me.

Here is why she is WRONG on the Immigration Issue Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"Any person who ... encourages or induces an alien to ... reside ... knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such ... residence is ... in violation of law, shall be punished as provided ... for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs ... fined under title 18 ... imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

who cares????
stop giving Iowa so much importance!!!!

the big day is February 5th... THAT day is when America will decide who will be running for president.... and I repeat:
AMERICA,
not Iowa,
WILL DECIDE
WHO
RUNS
FOR
PRESIDENT!!!!

thomas, the only reason she does so well raising money is that she is willing to sell herself to the highest bidder. She takes money from lobbyist, Obama doesn't. There are questions about the legality of some of her funds, there are none of Obama's. And those polls you're so proud of, an out-of-date way of messuring support. She doesn't have a chance

I think the other democratic cadidates just look desperate when attacking Hillary.

Yes, Hillary is electable because:
a) She has raised most money and still has most money left for this campaign.
b) She has the most support from the women and black voters, of all presidential candidates.
c) Her election campaign machine is the most effective (based on her high poll standing) and efficient (based on her $ spent on $ raised).
d) In the dem primaries, she is over 25 pts leads ahead on Obama nationally and in many state polls.
e) In the next election, she will win all the blue states, win most purple states, and may also grab a few red states.

And all this is what the people have come to resent.

To the Obama supporter.... Do you know what the Republicans will do to Obama over his cocaine use? And consider what happened to Harold Ford Jnr in the Tennesee Senate race! The only Democrat that could win the White House is Hillary... And I wouldn't be betting on it.

yes she can be very easily. John Edwards can win there, it's also a likely possibility that that will happen. Obama is also a viable threat, any of the big 3 could take iowa. A lock... no way, more like barn burner.

Bill,
I wathed, and Hillary did fine by the beating after beating from Obama and Edwards. But those two knew they were lying putting Bush`s war on her alone. Don`t think so Obama as you want to continue longer and your roots seen to lead to as once a Muslim. Can you ever turn back from one? Bush and his aides lied to the Senators and the people and we all know the rest Bill.

Hillary's behind-the-scenes slime machine

Remember how we learned from a Washington Post article that it was
Hillary's campaign that spread a HuffPo article about McClurkin at the
gospel tour to all the news outlets?

Well, thanks to Salon.com, what we've suspected all along, and now know

for a fact, this was hardly an isolated incident. It seems the Hillary
campaign goes out of it's way to send possible damaging articles about
her opponents to all the news outlets regularly. And as Salon.com
readily states, they've never once had the Obama or Edwards campaign do

the same.

If you thought Bill Clinton strongarming GQ into not running a negative

piece on Hillary was a good indicator of how they work behind the
scenes, here is some more.

This woman has the audacity to have her campaign whine about being
'piled on' at the debate, while she and her attack dogs have been
secretly sliming her opponents in about the most cowardly and
unprincipled way. The woman who proudly proclaimed at the debate, 'you
shouldn't always tell people what you're thinking' and who hides the
record of her so-called experience until 2012, is once again revealed
to
be as secretive and conniving and underhanded as our present commander
in corruption.

Here's a link to the article. Kudos to Salon.com. Funny no other news
outlet has seen fit to let on about the shady behind the scenes
smearing
by the Clinton campaign.

~Terri
====================

TUESDAY, OCT. 30, 2007 13:36 EST
The politics of hope

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/10/30/hope/index.html

I think many of us are tired of division politics.

It does none of us any good.

We need politicians who want to do the real business of we the people.

Will honesty win ?

It will if WE are honest.

If many of us continue seeking a winner versus honesty we all lose.

""People who own races horses try to own all the ponies in the race. That way they can't lose, while the masses in the stands losa at the hands of these owners""

For many many years thats is what the group Bilderberg has done and so we the people in the stands can't see the bigger picture and most of us get taken to the cleaners.

I am tired of being controlled and the only way we can win is to not play their game and elect a president who isn't controlled by the powers to be.

Can Clinton be stopped in the Hawkeye State?

The real question is how far behind Barack Obama she will finish.

Will she eke out second just in front of Edwards? Or will she fall to a distant third or worse?

Clinton has been up consistently in Iowa polls. She was up ten in the latest poll, released by ARG.

Bill Sneider of CNN says there is a dead heat in Iowa. He must be thinking of the older Iowa poll indicating that Hillary was only 2 points (28 vs 26) ahead of Obama. The more recent poll by ARG, however, indicates that Hillary was 10 points (32 vs 22) ahead of Obama, and that does not seem to be a dead heat.

Did Hillary’s last debte hurt her? Maybe, but then again, it is more psychological, considering she was being punched by 6 grown men. Any fools can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Those who (like Hillary) can, do while those who (like the other dem candidates) can’t, criticize. Let those 6 guys come up with some policies, and for sure these policies cannot please everyone and be criticized. It appears that Hillary generally does not criticize her fellow dem candidates who unfortunately do not reciprocate. While Hillary offers alternative policies to Bush policies, these 6 dem candidates act like they are republicans attacking her.

Yes, Hillary is electable because:
a) She has raised most money and still has most money left for this campaign.
b) She has the most support from the women and black voters, of all presidential candidates.
c) Her election campaign machine is the most effective (based on her high poll standing) and efficient (based on her $ spent on $ raised).
d) In the dem primaries, she is over 25 pts leads ahead on Obama nationally and in many state polls.
e) In the next election, she will win all the blue states, win most purple states, and may also grab a few red states.

The rumour of her demise is greatly exaggerated. She has a good lead in Iowa and a bigger lead in other states. Even a strong 2nd for her in Iowa will make her a come back kid in New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, etc.

Does she play for the Cyclones or Hawkeyes ! Go Hillary !! You tell 'em !!

She will not win Iowa – Barack Obama will and Edwards will finish third. Edwards will then drop out of the race, as will the majority of the second tier candidates, and it will be a landslide victory to the nomination for Obama. Bookmark this.