November 3, 2007
Posted: 05:10 PM ET

The Edwards campaign said Clinton should not be held to a different standard because of her gender.

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – One day after former Sen. John Edwards said that Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Clinton should not be held to a different standard because of her gender, the Edwards campaign unleashed a stinging statement that said Clinton is "disingenuously playing the victim card" by bringing up her gender in recent campaign stops and fundraising emails.

Kate Michelman, the former President of NARAL Pro-Choice America and a senior adviser to the Edwards campaign, posted a brief essay about Clinton on Saturday at the liberal group blog OpenLeft.com.

"At one minute the strong woman ready to lead, the next, she's the woman under attack, disingenuously playing the victim card as a means of trying to avoid giving honest, direct answers to legitimate questions," Michelman wrote of Clinton.

On Thursday at Clinton's alma mater, the all-female Wellesley College, the Democratic frontrunner said that "this all-women's college prepared me to compete in the all-boys club of presidential politics." Those comments came after the Clinton campaign accused her rivals of "piling on" during last week's Democratic debate.

Michelman, who endorsed Edwards in January, said that women "know better than to use our gender as a shield when the questions get too hot."

After a campaign event in South Carolina on Friday, Edwards was asked by CNN about Clinton injecting her gender into the presidential dialogue.

"I think that Senator Clinton ought to be held to the same standard that every other presidential candidate is held to," Edwards said. "And that standard is to not engage in double talk. To be straight and honest with people."

– CNN South Carolina Producer Peter Hamby

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • John Edwards • South Carolina


Debi, Philadelphia, Pa   November 5th, 2007 8:39 pm ET

So the lets play dirty plan is working and Hillary is slipping in the polls. She isn't freefallingl, just slipping, but keep at her boys, maybe you can topple her, but I think not. As for playing the cards that work for you, who is doing this more then a couple of the guys she is running against. Keep kicking her while you think she is down John, it won't help, but get your jollies you pathetic wimp.

Crawford Meadville, PA   November 5th, 2007 11:02 am ET

A. Thomas-

People like you seemed to be more concerned about a pricey haircut that the millions of dollars and thousands of lives lost in the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq that Hillary Clinton proudly voted for.

Why is it that Hillary Clinton supporters always talk about polls and petty matters? I never hear Hillary people even mention the war- it's like they are in denial that it is even going on.

William A Halifax N.S.   November 5th, 2007 10:15 am ET

"I think that Senator Clinton ought to be held to the same standard that every other presidential candidate is held to," Edwards said. "And that standard is to not engage in double talk. To be straight and honest with people."

And you should practice what you preach Johnny Boy. A bit more of the Macho Male vs. the Momma's Boy personna would be a breath of fresh air where your concerned.

John Buloxy Ca   November 4th, 2007 9:45 pm ET

It would be better if we just gave Shrillary the White House. Why would anybody want to know how tough she is? she needs a thicker skin! if she thought the debate was an attack wait until '08, she is going to get slammed!!!! her "BOO-HOO" Politics didn't even give her an inch. She won't be the democratic nomination, there is no way, she has too many skeletons and not enough experience! unless sleeping with the President gives you the experience and in that case there are others with the experience claim as well.

A DEM   November 4th, 2007 5:11 pm ET

Edwards is a very wimpy man and would make a weak president as would Kunnich, Gravel, Dodd and Obama.

Tony, Enterprise, Alabama   November 4th, 2007 4:34 pm ET

I voted for former Senator Edwards in 2004, shame on me!

I read this article, and saw him on the Sunday talk shows. When asked point blank if he thinks Senator Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and unfit to run the country he says "…no absolutely not…", then like the trial lawyer he is he goes on to list 20 ways where she COULD be corrupt.

As usual it sounds like he wants to have it both ways.

And Ms. Michelman's endorsement when she is already a senior advisor to his campaign? Laughable.

It's over John, go home.

Filed under Sick Of Front Runners   November 4th, 2007 11:38 am ET

Between Edwards bashing Clinton, Obama bashing Clinton, and Clinton bashing somebody else, I am voting for someone else. Someone besides these three CNN-gift-wrapped Front Runners. Let the boys and girls fight in their playpen while the rest of us search for a President.

Brian, College Park, MD   November 4th, 2007 11:20 am ET

Get off your high horses! No one engaged in negative attacks in the debate last week. Unless pointing out clear differences and flip flopping by your opponents count…

Even aside from her flip flop on the illegal immigrant issue, let's go back to her stance on talking to Iran without preconditions. When Obama said it he was inexperienced to be President. Yet a few weeks later, it was Clinton saying Bush's policy with Iran failed and she would meet with Iran without preconditions.

Honesty and Integrity…Obama 08!!!

Trina Miami, FL   November 4th, 2007 11:08 am ET

Edwards is a joke. We are all so sick of hearing him complain about Hillary. He is worse than Obama by far….he needs to get a brain and come up with genuine ideas. That is how he will garner more than 5 percent of the vote. Scum bag.

Therese, Houston TX   November 4th, 2007 9:33 am ET

I used to have a lot of respect for John Edwards. Not anymore. He's coming across as very desparate; like he has not way out so the only solution is to bash Hillary. He's lost the class that I used to think he had and that lost my vote.

Terry, El Paso, TX   November 4th, 2007 9:11 am ET

Seeing the leading male Democratic candidates gang up on Sen. Clinton is having a big impact, I speculate, on a large group of female voters. The twenty-somethings have not had time to reflect on how women are treated in the workplace, but women in their thirties and older have surely noticed that almost all of the senior leadership of the corporation she works for is male. She may believe that she is more competent than the man she works for. She may feel that she should have been given a promotion instead of the guy who golfs with the boss. She may feel excluded from the sports conversations at work. She may be doing a slow burn because her ex-husband is nine years behind in child-support payments but has never missed a payment on his motorcycle.

Voting for Hillary may be a way she can say, "Screw YOU, morons" to the men in her life and her career who have treated her, in her view at least, badly. A lot of powerful feelings are going to compel a lot of women to vote for one of their own next year. The results should be very interesting.

Sue Q. Oakland California   November 4th, 2007 3:16 am ET

Thank you John Edwards for being real, truthful and candid for that is exactly what we need in this country, America more now than ever before. Keep up the good work.

Yoslizia New York NY   November 4th, 2007 2:53 am ET

A real Candidate would not be giving a hoot what Hillary says or does. They would be stating what they plan to do as President of the United States. Why are you worried about Hillary, Mr. Edwards. If you got the stuff, then why aren't you campaigning and stating what you plan to do as President of USA ? You are funnier than that comedian you didn't want upstaging you.

Jesse, Burnsville, MN   November 4th, 2007 2:49 am ET

Wow, the Hillary campaign really had their supporters hit this blog. You are all pretty sad. Tell me, how does it feel knowing that you are supporting a Republican. As a strong Democrat, you all make me sick.

Josaka Dallas TX   November 4th, 2007 2:45 am ET

Why aren't Obama and Clinton accusing Edwards of using the Stupid shield. They would be more accurate.

Parilan New York NY   November 4th, 2007 2:44 am ET

At least Hillary uses her brain, try it John, you may actually have one. What are you planning to do for the USA as President. Whine about Ahmaoudinegad hiding behind the sand dune card ? Get with the program, and campaign by telling us how you plan to benefit the USA as President.

Reliek Tehran Iran   November 4th, 2007 2:26 am ET

Well, good point Edwards. Then why aren't you being Straight and Honest instead of Dumb and Stupid ?

Bluegraz Greenville SC   November 4th, 2007 2:24 am ET

Edwards is funny. I guess we really don't need the comedian from SC. Edwards is funny enough for 12 commedians.

Stefan Gaithersburg, MD   November 4th, 2007 1:20 am ET

Does this guy ever actually say anything constructive? I'm a Republican but I'm almost ready to vote for Hillary if it guarantees this guy will just shut up. Hey John, go back to chasing ambulances and foreclosing on homes in New Orleans and leave the campaigning to those that have something important to say.

Cappen Champaign IL   November 4th, 2007 1:08 am ET

HNN, Hitler News Network. You tell 'em, CNN. Posting what you want, so to control the News.

gawd   November 4th, 2007 12:40 am ET

yeah whats the problem she can use anything for her campaign,just like your trying to be a resident of Iowa.hahahahahah..looser

Mrs. America   November 4th, 2007 12:33 am ET

He is certainly digging to the bottom of the barrel. If Hillary falters too much and Obama starts becoming a threat, Edwards will probably say he's using a race shield, even though he's not. Not yet anyway.

Simone - Oakland, CA   November 3rd, 2007 11:55 pm ET

John, this attack against Hillary should not surprise anyone. When your wife announced she had breast cancer I thought you'd drop out and care for your family and her health. Makes me wonder what the hell you're thinking. You want to be President for what it'll bring you – not what you can achieve for the American people. You are so desperate to win you'll do and say anything. You don't even listen during the debate – open your ears for a change.

Carrol Ann, Newport, Maine   November 3rd, 2007 11:47 pm ET

Edwards and Obama are the one's playing the gender card here. Beating up on Hillary because she's a woman. I don't see them beating up on any one else. Like each other for example? They are abusive women bashers. I agree Hillary should not be held to a different standard. So guess what guys, that means you have to treat her equal. Right now you are treating her less, simply because she's a woman and you think you can get away with it. Well, guess what, you are taking on half of the American vote who just happen to be women. We can play the gender card if you want us to LOL…

A. Thomas, ny, ny   November 3rd, 2007 9:55 pm ET

John Edwards always considers himself a victim. What a shame!

A couple of months ago, his wife noted that obama was appealing to the black votes, and she complained that edwards could not be black.

Now, Edwards complained that he cannot be a woman.

Playing a race or woman card? That is silly. When was the last time that an american president was a woman or black man? They have been all white men, like edwards himself.

In other words, edwards should blame no one but himself for not getting the votes. The tact is that there is something wrong with edwards as a person, his policies, his speeches, his $400 haircut….

Audrey, Medford, MA   November 3rd, 2007 9:33 pm ET

I find what Edwards is doing despicable. The idea that any Democrat would go on the warpath in a paltry attempt to boost a candidacy that was never destined to go anywhere makes no sense to me. This is a man who, as the Vice Presidential candidate in 2004, could not deliver one Southern state–not even his own. Who is he to cast stones? And the idea that Kate Michelman, whom I have always admired, would come out swinging against someone who has fought for women and children for her entire life, makes me ill. Let's stop doing this. Let's all put our best foot forward with ideas and not give the Republican attack machine yet more fodder.

Chris, Middletown, CT   November 3rd, 2007 8:47 pm ET

Hillary Supporters – here is an actual quote from Hillarys teacher…Saul Alinsky….(for real) – "to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means" – sound at all familiar?? (btw…Saul was a grassroots Marxist….and the subject of Hillarys college thesis paper)

josh, fairlawn, oh   November 3rd, 2007 8:34 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has NEVER used her gender as a "shield." I'd like him to point out where she has done so; he's getting desperate, and going for the jugular.

I liked this guy initially, but no more.

John Adkisson, Sacramento, california   November 3rd, 2007 8:09 pm ET

Gender discrimination is real. That is why it should not be trivialized by Clinton as she has done. She is ahead in the polls, and, ironically, is relying on the legacy of her husband as she poses as a victim of "the boys". What about the worst "bad boy" in history — Bill Clinton. Men are okay as long as they support her?

I think it is true that any woman has an extra hurdle running for president due to gender (just as Obama has a hurdle among some based on his race). But as an ardent civil rights advocate, I CANNOT forgive her constant defamation of men as "boys" piling on. This disqualifies her as a uniter.

corbett, Seattle WA   November 3rd, 2007 8:04 pm ET

If Edwards really thinks that he is losing to Clinton because she is a girl then he does not have the judgement neccesary to be president.

Dan, Saint Louis, MO   November 3rd, 2007 8:03 pm ET

Will Edwards sabotage Hillary and drop out after Iowa, effectively giving his share of the anti-Hillary votes to Obama?

NS, New York   November 3rd, 2007 7:44 pm ET

Of course they piled on her, and they will keep doing it until they drop out. That's what trailers do to front-runners in all primaries. It has nothing to do with gender- it has everything to do with her standing in the polls. If Obama was first she'd be ganging up on him with Edwards and all the rest. Her bringing " the all-boys club" into was trying to play the gender card since she knows an all-girls club would be acting the same way in the situation.

P S , Tampa FL   November 3rd, 2007 7:13 pm ET

John Edward has the most poisonous mouth. His word on Hillary remind me of the curse from an evil witch

DJ   November 3rd, 2007 7:09 pm ET

Johnny, you're just jealous. How many women presidents have we had? Hmmm, maybe she has a point. I'll vote for you Johnny if you promise to make all bad things go away.

Boyswhine   November 3rd, 2007 7:00 pm ET

and like your not playing, your a bad republican,and its like Obama playing the race card,his 80% missed vote my lord talk about misrepresentation for the people of "Chicago",maybe Hillary ought to be Senator there too,since she was born raised there.I see it in both of you run on your merits ya haven't done anything to create merits,we know everything about "Hillary"I still stand by her,guess what,her name has been around along time so i trust her more from the goldwater days.She is a Politican, your not,you couldnt get elected the last time you lost your home state so there is a reason for that,something's in hiding.She is right the boys club/z. earned it" take it Hillary"the first woman President.

Joe, Chicago, IL   November 3rd, 2007 5:31 pm ET

Given Edwards own history of playing the race and gender cards, Michelman's argument has no credibility.

When Elizabeth Edwards blamed the media for their campaigns poor press, she said; ""We can't make John black, we can't make him a woman".

Further, on his recent "Bubba" tour with Mudcat and Cooter, Edwards said:

"If you're running in a tough congressional district somewhere in America, anywhere in America, and I'm in one right now, okay…You gotta ask yourself would you rather have Senator Obama at the top of the ticket to help, Senator Clinton at the top of the ticket to help, or John Edwards at the top of the ticket to help. … .. You got to have someone who is strong in all those places and who is not a drag on candidates who are trying to win in those places. … .. The easiest way to do it, honestly, is to picture in your head each of us running in a tough place — we're in one right now — and which one's going to be more helpful and which one's not, because I think that does matter."

Finally, while we're being honest, let's not forget the cancer card that Edward played in his "Heros" ad.

If it's OK for Edwards to play these race, gender, and cancer cards, then it's OK for everyone else!

kevin, chicago il   November 3rd, 2007 4:54 pm ET

Seriously people, 8 years of Hillary? It's fine to support a candidate enthusiastically, but when you are willing to write-off your chance to change your mind in 4 years, that's bordering on blind fanaticism.

J. Denver, CO   November 3rd, 2007 4:29 pm ET

i am getting really sick of hearing Edwards bash Clinton….and I don't even like her.

Lorenz, Queens, NY   November 3rd, 2007 4:27 pm ET

YO EDWARDS – YOU TELL HER!!!

Axel, RKDA, California   November 3rd, 2007 4:13 pm ET

John, the only whiner in this race is you!!! You're soooo far behind in the polls that most people are going to see your constant attacks on Hillary for what they are: an act of desperation.

Posted By Bea, Hoboken, NJ : November 3, 2007 2:58 pm
You forgot Barack Owhiner… But you certainly do have a point about acts of desperation. The more these guys whine about Hillary Clinton the more I am inclined to vote for her. Even though I don't necessarily consider her to be the person I feel is the most qualified to be President.

As always it will end up being a two party race, and in a case like that you don't vote for the person you want to be President, you vote against the one you don't want to the power of being President. The good ol' "Lesser of Two Evils" game. And in this campaign, as much as I hate to admit it, Hillary Clinton is becoming the only logical choice.

Eric, NY, NY   November 3rd, 2007 4:10 pm ET

Kate Michelman has, like the column states, endorsed Edwards months ago so no wonder she is engaged in the same type of negative attacks that the candidate that she supports has.

P. Sherman, Ontario Canada   November 3rd, 2007 4:09 pm ET

Who says she is playing the gender card? Her democratic opponents who are trailing? The republicans?
I don't see where she has done this at all. During that last debate she stood up well against the obvious attacks on her and especially the scrutiny that Russert wanted to put on her while not doing the same to the other male candidates. Does he have as bad a bias against her as he seemed to display that evening?

Aaron   November 3rd, 2007 4:08 pm ET

Hillary is shrill, greed driven fraud, who is being exposed for who and what she truly is. She cant stand the heat. During Her short political career she has been protected from such cofrontation because she cant handle it…poor poor little Hillary…..better get used to it, little girl, its gonna get worse. teh end is near for your campaign……when you lose in Iowa the wheels will come completely off

Michelle M. LaCrosse, WI   November 3rd, 2007 4:06 pm ET

No gender bias, eh' John?

Well, actions speak louder than words….

Based on the candidates actions and behavior over the last week or so, they only added more fuel to the fire and proved Hillary Clintons very point.

Turn to any news station (except FOX, of course) and listen to the buzz and dissapointment over the growing 'hog pile' on Hillary Clinton.

We are all getting tired of hearing what the other candidates think about Hillary Clinton. As if she is were the largest threat to our nation…

Based on what I've seen so far, it seems that Clinton bashing is all that the other candidates have to offer…

I don't know about the rest of the country, but I am setting much higher standards for selecting a new leader this time around.

Ken, San Diego, CA   November 3rd, 2007 4:04 pm ET

More misleads from "noble" John Edwards. Here is the excerpt of a press conference with Hillary Clinton (from the Boston Globe). And she's using a "gender shield" how?

"I don't think they're piling on because I'm a woman," Clinton told reporters after filing her papers to appear on the New Hampshire primary ballot. "I think they're piling on because I'm winning."

Clinton, who is well ahead in polls in New Hampshire and nationally, said she understands that "that's what happens in campaigns." Then, in the same breath, she declared her toughness and also made a joke about gender roles.

"I anticipate it's going to get even hotter, and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen," she said. "And I'm very much at home in the kitchen."

June, Florida   November 3rd, 2007 3:55 pm ET

Gender card ? Women card ? I believe Elizabeth, like lot of us, will do the same thing. Teach, educate, encourage and guide our daughters tough and strong to face today's world. She never plays gender card. She is A WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!!

Ken, San Diego, CA   November 3rd, 2007 3:52 pm ET

Gender card?

That's funny.

How many female presidents have we had?

How many female presidential candidates have we had?

Enough said…

Justin/Denver Co.   November 3rd, 2007 3:32 pm ET

Its pretty pathetic to see dems resorting to Rovian attacks on Hillary. This is just like the "Al Gore says he invented the internet" stuff Rove pulled in 00. Al never said he invented the internet, and Hillary has not cried about her gender, or being picked on by the "Good ol' Boys".

However, if they repeat it enough…people will believe it, just like with Al. Its juts amazing how people in this country foster their own ignorance as if it were good.

Marko, Portland, OR   November 3rd, 2007 3:25 pm ET

Viva Hillary!! 2008 and 2012! Poor John. He knows he is not going to win so he's doing whatever. He knows Hillary is going to win and he's mad at her because, at the end, he's not the one people want. I don't even understand why he decided to run again after the embarrasing defeat of 2004. Bye bye! John.

John, Detroit, Michigan   November 3rd, 2007 3:19 pm ET

frankly, isn't it true that presidential politics is an "all-boys" club? Her saying that isn't using gender as a defense. It's just the truth… Also, isn't it also slightly sexist of him to twist her words so that it seems she's trying to seem like a victim as a woman? He's trying to portray her as some "weepy woman," when her performance in the debate suggested otherwise (6 + Tim Russert against Hillary….). If gender isn't an issue, then why is he trying to make it one?

Edwards is becoming more and more unlikeable with every update on the ticker. Some of his attacks are just getting revolting.

athomas, ny, ny   November 3rd, 2007 3:14 pm ET

A new general election poll released this morning has John Edwards destroying his Republican opponents nationally. Link.

Posted By Daniel, NY : November 3, 2007 2:26 pm

The link only shows that John Edwards vs McCain & Romney. What about Edwards vs Giuliani? What about Hillary vs Giuliani?

Like it or not, it is Hillary & Giuliani, the front runners, that most peeople are interested in. As the poll shows below, Hillary will beat Giulian in the next election. All she needs to become the next president to win one more state than John Kerry. A recent Quinnipiac poll found that Hillary is leading Rudy in 3 swing states that John Kerry lost ot Bush: Pennsylvania (48%-42%), Ohio (46%-40%), Florida (46%-43%).

Another key fact: In all three states, sizable majorities say they're not too likely or not at all likely to change their minds, leading Quinnipiac to conclude that her "support appears to be as deep as it is wide." Quinnipiac also notes that Hillary is the only Dem to beat Rudy in all three states.

joab,charlotte,NC   November 3rd, 2007 3:14 pm ET

This makes Obama the winner….Thanx John. I would put it this way

Top to down
1. Obama

2————-

3 Clinton

4———-

5———-

6———-
.
.
.
10 Edward!

Leo, VA   November 3rd, 2007 3:01 pm ET

Margaret, FL..
"President Hillary Clinton for 8 yrs"

Maybe Hillary for 8 years is too much, but I totally agree that for now she is the only one who is capable to be the President of the United States. Edwards and even Obama lost credibility considering their latest behaviors (lets not even refer to their ideas because they spend more time badmouthing Clinton instead of telling what they will do).

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   November 3rd, 2007 2:58 pm ET

John, the only whiner in this race is you!!! You're soooo far behind in the polls that most people are going to see your constant attacks on Hillary for what they are: an act of desperation.

Furthermore, her poll numbers didn't suffer as a result of Tuesday's debate. Actually, they went up a little bit. Read it and weep:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/debate_fallout_has_no_immediate_impact_on_clinton_poll_position

Veronica Bloom, Jacksonville, Florida   November 3rd, 2007 2:54 pm ET

"this all-women's college prepared me to compete in the all-boys club of presidential politics."

This is not using a 'gender card', this is speaking the truth! If anything, it's the 'American Card'.

These boys are hitting below the belt. Because of this, Obama has lot my vote.

It's one thing to show a contrast between your opponents and another to use NEGATIVE attacks.

Jim Bremer   November 3rd, 2007 2:48 pm ET

Edwards can't win !? Say something new.

Edwards already sent feelers to the Clinton asking if he could be the Veep. Having been rebuffed by Clinton, he is trying to earn his keep by becoming Obama's Veep.

Pity it won't work.

DT Wisconsin   November 3rd, 2007 2:39 pm ET

Conservatives have observed this a while ago…but somehow it only comes to light (on CNN) when liberals say it.

Hmm….

G, Margate, FL   November 3rd, 2007 2:38 pm ET

John Edwards could not even help John Kerry win his home state and now he thinks he can win it all, give me a break John Edwards go back home and retire from politic
President Hillary Clinton for 8 yrs

DMW, Roeland Park, KS   November 3rd, 2007 2:35 pm ET

Clinton is no worse than white men screaming reverse discrimination; blacks screaming racial discrimination; Hispanics screaming racial discrimination; fat people screaming body discrimination; people over 40 screaming age discrimination…SO WHAT!!!!!

They did pile on Hillary in the debates and she did bend, but did not break. She will still be the nonimee.

Ro Houle, Fort Mohave, Az   November 3rd, 2007 2:28 pm ET

Mr Edwards, Try using your intellect to show us your ability to be the next president and stop badmouthing the other incumbents. Why is it necessary during election time to try and cast shadows on the other incumbents and you never did it before. All of the presidential hopefuls need to know that it turns the american people against you. It really does.

Daniel, NY   November 3rd, 2007 2:26 pm ET

A new general election poll released this morning has John Edwards destroying his Republican opponents nationally. Link.

TheInsider   November 3rd, 2007 2:17 pm ET

Flat broke. Polling 9% in SC. THIRD in Iowa. Not even a factor in NH. He's in the, "I'll say and do anything", phase of his, "campaign", and he is.

PoliticalTicker@gmail.com   November 3rd, 2007 2:13 pm ET

I'd say something here, but my wife won't let me.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   November 3rd, 2007 2:08 pm ET

If Hillary wants to use gender as a convenience to dodge the issues that the people of America need to know about, let her. She is entitled to use any and all convenient smokescreens she can find or create, after all, she is a Democratic Politician, and Eleanor Roosevelt tells her to do this.

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   November 3rd, 2007 2:02 pm ET

"Bubba," she blubbered, "make those nasty boys and nastier tomboys stop picking on me!"

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