Comments on: Edwards campaign: Clinton using gender as 'a shield' http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Debi, Philadelphia, Pa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-127431 Debi, Philadelphia, Pa Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:39:57 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-127431 So the lets play dirty plan is working and Hillary is slipping in the polls. She isn't freefallingl, just slipping, but keep at her boys, maybe you can topple her, but I think not. As for playing the cards that work for you, who is doing this more then a couple of the guys she is running against. Keep kicking her while you think she is down John, it won't help, but get your jollies you pathetic wimp. So the lets play dirty plan is working and Hillary is slipping in the polls. She isn't freefallingl, just slipping, but keep at her boys, maybe you can topple her, but I think not. As for playing the cards that work for you, who is doing this more then a couple of the guys she is running against. Keep kicking her while you think she is down John, it won't help, but get your jollies you pathetic wimp.

]]> By: Crawford Meadville, PA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-126288 Crawford Meadville, PA Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:02:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-126288 A. Thomas- People like you seemed to be more concerned about a pricey haircut that the millions of dollars and thousands of lives lost in the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq that Hillary Clinton proudly voted for. Why is it that Hillary Clinton supporters always talk about polls and petty matters? I never hear Hillary people even mention the war- it's like they are in denial that it is even going on. A. Thomas-

People like you seemed to be more concerned about a pricey haircut that the millions of dollars and thousands of lives lost in the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq that Hillary Clinton proudly voted for.

Why is it that Hillary Clinton supporters always talk about polls and petty matters? I never hear Hillary people even mention the war- it's like they are in denial that it is even going on.

]]> By: William A Halifax N.S. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-126227 William A Halifax N.S. Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:15:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-126227 "I think that Senator Clinton ought to be held to the same standard that every other presidential candidate is held to," Edwards said. "And that standard is to not engage in double talk. To be straight and honest with people." And you should practice what you preach Johnny Boy. A bit more of the Macho Male vs. the Momma's Boy personna would be a breath of fresh air where your concerned. "I think that Senator Clinton ought to be held to the same standard that every other presidential candidate is held to," Edwards said. "And that standard is to not engage in double talk. To be straight and honest with people."

And you should practice what you preach Johnny Boy. A bit more of the Macho Male vs. the Momma's Boy personna would be a breath of fresh air where your concerned.

]]> By: John Buloxy Ca http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125843 John Buloxy Ca Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:45:19 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125843 It would be better if we just gave Shrillary the White House. Why would anybody want to know how tough she is? she needs a thicker skin! if she thought the debate was an attack wait until '08, she is going to get slammed!!!! her "BOO-HOO" Politics didn't even give her an inch. She won't be the democratic nomination, there is no way, she has too many skeletons and not enough experience! unless sleeping with the President gives you the experience and in that case there are others with the experience claim as well. It would be better if we just gave Shrillary the White House. Why would anybody want to know how tough she is? she needs a thicker skin! if she thought the debate was an attack wait until '08, she is going to get slammed!!!! her "BOO-HOO" Politics didn't even give her an inch. She won't be the democratic nomination, there is no way, she has too many skeletons and not enough experience! unless sleeping with the President gives you the experience and in that case there are others with the experience claim as well.

]]> By: A DEM http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125661 A DEM Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:11:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125661 Edwards is a very wimpy man and would make a weak president as would Kunnich, Gravel, Dodd and Obama. Edwards is a very wimpy man and would make a weak president as would Kunnich, Gravel, Dodd and Obama.

]]> By: Tony, Enterprise, Alabama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125643 Tony, Enterprise, Alabama Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:34:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125643 I voted for former Senator Edwards in 2004, shame on me! I read this article, and saw him on the Sunday talk shows. When asked point blank if he thinks Senator Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and unfit to run the country he says "...no absolutely not...", then like the trial lawyer he is he goes on to list 20 ways where she COULD be corrupt. As usual it sounds like he wants to have it both ways. And Ms. Michelman's endorsement when she is already a senior advisor to his campaign? Laughable. It's over John, go home. I voted for former Senator Edwards in 2004, shame on me!

I read this article, and saw him on the Sunday talk shows. When asked point blank if he thinks Senator Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and unfit to run the country he says "...no absolutely not...", then like the trial lawyer he is he goes on to list 20 ways where she COULD be corrupt.

As usual it sounds like he wants to have it both ways.

And Ms. Michelman's endorsement when she is already a senior advisor to his campaign? Laughable.

It's over John, go home.

]]> By: Filed under Sick Of Front Runners http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125444 Filed under Sick Of Front Runners Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:38:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125444 Between Edwards bashing Clinton, Obama bashing Clinton, and Clinton bashing somebody else, I am voting for someone else. Someone besides these three CNN-gift-wrapped Front Runners. Let the boys and girls fight in their playpen while the rest of us search for a President. Between Edwards bashing Clinton, Obama bashing Clinton, and Clinton bashing somebody else, I am voting for someone else. Someone besides these three CNN-gift-wrapped Front Runners. Let the boys and girls fight in their playpen while the rest of us search for a President.

]]> By: Brian, College Park, MD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125435 Brian, College Park, MD Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:20:42 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125435 Get off your high horses! No one engaged in negative attacks in the debate last week. Unless pointing out clear differences and flip flopping by your opponents count... Even aside from her flip flop on the illegal immigrant issue, let's go back to her stance on talking to Iran without preconditions. When Obama said it he was inexperienced to be President. Yet a few weeks later, it was Clinton saying Bush's policy with Iran failed and she would meet with Iran without preconditions. Honesty and Integrity...Obama 08!!! Get off your high horses! No one engaged in negative attacks in the debate last week. Unless pointing out clear differences and flip flopping by your opponents count...

Even aside from her flip flop on the illegal immigrant issue, let's go back to her stance on talking to Iran without preconditions. When Obama said it he was inexperienced to be President. Yet a few weeks later, it was Clinton saying Bush's policy with Iran failed and she would meet with Iran without preconditions.

Honesty and Integrity...Obama 08!!!

]]> By: Trina Miami, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125426 Trina Miami, FL Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:08:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125426 Edwards is a joke. We are all so sick of hearing him complain about Hillary. He is worse than Obama by far....he needs to get a brain and come up with genuine ideas. That is how he will garner more than 5 percent of the vote. Scum bag. Edwards is a joke. We are all so sick of hearing him complain about Hillary. He is worse than Obama by far....he needs to get a brain and come up with genuine ideas. That is how he will garner more than 5 percent of the vote. Scum bag.

]]> By: Therese, Houston TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125367 Therese, Houston TX Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:33:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125367 I used to have a lot of respect for John Edwards. Not anymore. He's coming across as very desparate; like he has not way out so the only solution is to bash Hillary. He's lost the class that I used to think he had and that lost my vote. I used to have a lot of respect for John Edwards. Not anymore. He's coming across as very desparate; like he has not way out so the only solution is to bash Hillary. He's lost the class that I used to think he had and that lost my vote.

]]> By: Terry, El Paso, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125357 Terry, El Paso, TX Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:11:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125357 Seeing the leading male Democratic candidates gang up on Sen. Clinton is having a big impact, I speculate, on a large group of female voters. The twenty-somethings have not had time to reflect on how women are treated in the workplace, but women in their thirties and older have surely noticed that almost all of the senior leadership of the corporation she works for is male. She may believe that she is more competent than the man she works for. She may feel that she should have been given a promotion instead of the guy who golfs with the boss. She may feel excluded from the sports conversations at work. She may be doing a slow burn because her ex-husband is nine years behind in child-support payments but has never missed a payment on his motorcycle. Voting for Hillary may be a way she can say, "Screw YOU, morons" to the men in her life and her career who have treated her, in her view at least, badly. A lot of powerful feelings are going to compel a lot of women to vote for one of their own next year. The results should be very interesting. Seeing the leading male Democratic candidates gang up on Sen. Clinton is having a big impact, I speculate, on a large group of female voters. The twenty-somethings have not had time to reflect on how women are treated in the workplace, but women in their thirties and older have surely noticed that almost all of the senior leadership of the corporation she works for is male. She may believe that she is more competent than the man she works for. She may feel that she should have been given a promotion instead of the guy who golfs with the boss. She may feel excluded from the sports conversations at work. She may be doing a slow burn because her ex-husband is nine years behind in child-support payments but has never missed a payment on his motorcycle.

Voting for Hillary may be a way she can say, "Screw YOU, morons" to the men in her life and her career who have treated her, in her view at least, badly. A lot of powerful feelings are going to compel a lot of women to vote for one of their own next year. The results should be very interesting.

]]> By: Sue Q. Oakland California http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125287 Sue Q. Oakland California Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:16:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125287 Thank you John Edwards for being real, truthful and candid for that is exactly what we need in this country, America more now than ever before. Keep up the good work. Thank you John Edwards for being real, truthful and candid for that is exactly what we need in this country, America more now than ever before. Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Yoslizia New York NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125283 Yoslizia New York NY Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:53:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125283 A real Candidate would not be giving a hoot what Hillary says or does. They would be stating what they plan to do as President of the United States. Why are you worried about Hillary, Mr. Edwards. If you got the stuff, then why aren't you campaigning and stating what you plan to do as President of USA ? You are funnier than that comedian you didn't want upstaging you. A real Candidate would not be giving a hoot what Hillary says or does. They would be stating what they plan to do as President of the United States. Why are you worried about Hillary, Mr. Edwards. If you got the stuff, then why aren't you campaigning and stating what you plan to do as President of USA ? You are funnier than that comedian you didn't want upstaging you.

]]> By: Jesse, Burnsville, MN http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125282 Jesse, Burnsville, MN Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:49:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125282 Wow, the Hillary campaign really had their supporters hit this blog. You are all pretty sad. Tell me, how does it feel knowing that you are supporting a Republican. As a strong Democrat, you all make me sick. Wow, the Hillary campaign really had their supporters hit this blog. You are all pretty sad. Tell me, how does it feel knowing that you are supporting a Republican. As a strong Democrat, you all make me sick.

]]> By: Josaka Dallas TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125279 Josaka Dallas TX Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:45:37 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125279 Why aren't Obama and Clinton accusing Edwards of using the Stupid shield. They would be more accurate. Why aren't Obama and Clinton accusing Edwards of using the Stupid shield. They would be more accurate.

]]> By: Parilan New York NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125277 Parilan New York NY Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:44:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125277 At least Hillary uses her brain, try it John, you may actually have one. What are you planning to do for the USA as President. Whine about Ahmaoudinegad hiding behind the sand dune card ? Get with the program, and campaign by telling us how you plan to benefit the USA as President. At least Hillary uses her brain, try it John, you may actually have one. What are you planning to do for the USA as President. Whine about Ahmaoudinegad hiding behind the sand dune card ? Get with the program, and campaign by telling us how you plan to benefit the USA as President.

]]> By: Reliek Tehran Iran http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125271 Reliek Tehran Iran Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:26:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125271 Well, good point Edwards. Then why aren't you being Straight and Honest instead of Dumb and Stupid ? Well, good point Edwards. Then why aren't you being Straight and Honest instead of Dumb and Stupid ?

]]> By: Bluegraz Greenville SC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125270 Bluegraz Greenville SC Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:24:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125270 Edwards is funny. I guess we really don't need the comedian from SC. Edwards is funny enough for 12 commedians. Edwards is funny. I guess we really don't need the comedian from SC. Edwards is funny enough for 12 commedians.

]]> By: Stefan Gaithersburg, MD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125250 Stefan Gaithersburg, MD Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:20:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125250 Does this guy ever actually say anything constructive? I'm a Republican but I'm almost ready to vote for Hillary if it guarantees this guy will just shut up. Hey John, go back to chasing ambulances and foreclosing on homes in New Orleans and leave the campaigning to those that have something important to say. Does this guy ever actually say anything constructive? I'm a Republican but I'm almost ready to vote for Hillary if it guarantees this guy will just shut up. Hey John, go back to chasing ambulances and foreclosing on homes in New Orleans and leave the campaigning to those that have something important to say.

]]> By: Cappen Champaign IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125245 Cappen Champaign IL Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:08:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125245 HNN, Hitler News Network. You tell 'em, CNN. Posting what you want, so to control the News. HNN, Hitler News Network. You tell 'em, CNN. Posting what you want, so to control the News.

]]> By: gawd http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125233 gawd Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:40:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125233 yeah whats the problem she can use anything for her campaign,just like your trying to be a resident of Iowa.hahahahahah..looser yeah whats the problem she can use anything for her campaign,just like your trying to be a resident of Iowa.hahahahahah..looser

]]> By: Mrs. America http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125228 Mrs. America Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:33:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125228 He is certainly digging to the bottom of the barrel. If Hillary falters too much and Obama starts becoming a threat, Edwards will probably say he's using a race shield, even though he's not. Not yet anyway. He is certainly digging to the bottom of the barrel. If Hillary falters too much and Obama starts becoming a threat, Edwards will probably say he's using a race shield, even though he's not. Not yet anyway.

]]> By: Simone - Oakland, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125200 Simone - Oakland, CA Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:55:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125200 John, this attack against Hillary should not surprise anyone. When your wife announced she had breast cancer I thought you'd drop out and care for your family and her health. Makes me wonder what the hell you're thinking. You want to be President for what it'll bring you - not what you can achieve for the American people. You are so desperate to win you'll do and say anything. You don't even listen during the debate - open your ears for a change. John, this attack against Hillary should not surprise anyone. When your wife announced she had breast cancer I thought you'd drop out and care for your family and her health. Makes me wonder what the hell you're thinking. You want to be President for what it'll bring you – not what you can achieve for the American people. You are so desperate to win you'll do and say anything. You don't even listen during the debate – open your ears for a change.

]]> By: Carrol Ann, Newport, Maine http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125195 Carrol Ann, Newport, Maine Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:47:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125195 Edwards and Obama are the one's playing the gender card here. Beating up on Hillary because she's a woman. I don't see them beating up on any one else. Like each other for example? They are abusive women bashers. I agree Hillary should not be held to a different standard. So guess what guys, that means you have to treat her equal. Right now you are treating her less, simply because she's a woman and you think you can get away with it. Well, guess what, you are taking on half of the American vote who just happen to be women. We can play the gender card if you want us to LOL... Edwards and Obama are the one's playing the gender card here. Beating up on Hillary because she's a woman. I don't see them beating up on any one else. Like each other for example? They are abusive women bashers. I agree Hillary should not be held to a different standard. So guess what guys, that means you have to treat her equal. Right now you are treating her less, simply because she's a woman and you think you can get away with it. Well, guess what, you are taking on half of the American vote who just happen to be women. We can play the gender card if you want us to LOL...

]]> By: A. Thomas, ny, ny http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125127 A. Thomas, ny, ny Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:55:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125127 John Edwards always considers himself a victim. What a shame! A couple of months ago, his wife noted that obama was appealing to the black votes, and she complained that edwards could not be black. Now, Edwards complained that he cannot be a woman. Playing a race or woman card? That is silly. When was the last time that an american president was a woman or black man? They have been all white men, like edwards himself. In other words, edwards should blame no one but himself for not getting the votes. The tact is that there is something wrong with edwards as a person, his policies, his speeches, his $400 haircut.... John Edwards always considers himself a victim. What a shame!

A couple of months ago, his wife noted that obama was appealing to the black votes, and she complained that edwards could not be black.

Now, Edwards complained that he cannot be a woman.

Playing a race or woman card? That is silly. When was the last time that an american president was a woman or black man? They have been all white men, like edwards himself.

In other words, edwards should blame no one but himself for not getting the votes. The tact is that there is something wrong with edwards as a person, his policies, his speeches, his $400 haircut....

]]> By: Audrey, Medford, MA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125116 Audrey, Medford, MA Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:33:19 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125116 I find what Edwards is doing despicable. The idea that any Democrat would go on the warpath in a paltry attempt to boost a candidacy that was never destined to go anywhere makes no sense to me. This is a man who, as the Vice Presidential candidate in 2004, could not deliver one Southern state--not even his own. Who is he to cast stones? And the idea that Kate Michelman, whom I have always admired, would come out swinging against someone who has fought for women and children for her entire life, makes me ill. Let's stop doing this. Let's all put our best foot forward with ideas and not give the Republican attack machine yet more fodder. I find what Edwards is doing despicable. The idea that any Democrat would go on the warpath in a paltry attempt to boost a candidacy that was never destined to go anywhere makes no sense to me. This is a man who, as the Vice Presidential candidate in 2004, could not deliver one Southern state–not even his own. Who is he to cast stones? And the idea that Kate Michelman, whom I have always admired, would come out swinging against someone who has fought for women and children for her entire life, makes me ill. Let's stop doing this. Let's all put our best foot forward with ideas and not give the Republican attack machine yet more fodder.

]]> By: Chris, Middletown, CT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125093 Chris, Middletown, CT Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:47:51 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125093 Hillary Supporters - here is an actual quote from Hillarys teacher...Saul Alinsky....(for real) - "to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means" - sound at all familiar?? (btw...Saul was a grassroots Marxist....and the subject of Hillarys college thesis paper) Hillary Supporters – here is an actual quote from Hillarys teacher...Saul Alinsky....(for real) – "to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means" – sound at all familiar?? (btw...Saul was a grassroots Marxist....and the subject of Hillarys college thesis paper)

]]> By: josh, fairlawn, oh http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125083 josh, fairlawn, oh Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:34:53 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125083 Hillary Clinton has NEVER used her gender as a "shield." I'd like him to point out where she has done so; he's getting desperate, and going for the jugular. I liked this guy initially, but no more. Hillary Clinton has NEVER used her gender as a "shield." I'd like him to point out where she has done so; he's getting desperate, and going for the jugular.

I liked this guy initially, but no more.

]]> By: John Adkisson, Sacramento, california http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125067 John Adkisson, Sacramento, california Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:09:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125067 Gender discrimination is real. That is why it should not be trivialized by Clinton as she has done. She is ahead in the polls, and, ironically, is relying on the legacy of her husband as she poses as a victim of "the boys". What about the worst "bad boy" in history -- Bill Clinton. Men are okay as long as they support her? I think it is true that any woman has an extra hurdle running for president due to gender (just as Obama has a hurdle among some based on his race). But as an ardent civil rights advocate, I CANNOT forgive her constant defamation of men as "boys" piling on. This disqualifies her as a uniter. Gender discrimination is real. That is why it should not be trivialized by Clinton as she has done. She is ahead in the polls, and, ironically, is relying on the legacy of her husband as she poses as a victim of "the boys". What about the worst "bad boy" in history - Bill Clinton. Men are okay as long as they support her?

I think it is true that any woman has an extra hurdle running for president due to gender (just as Obama has a hurdle among some based on his race). But as an ardent civil rights advocate, I CANNOT forgive her constant defamation of men as "boys" piling on. This disqualifies her as a uniter.

]]> By: corbett, Seattle WA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125063 corbett, Seattle WA Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:04:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125063 If Edwards really thinks that he is losing to Clinton because she is a girl then he does not have the judgement neccesary to be president. If Edwards really thinks that he is losing to Clinton because she is a girl then he does not have the judgement neccesary to be president.

]]> By: Dan, Saint Louis, MO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125062 Dan, Saint Louis, MO Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:03:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125062 Will Edwards sabotage Hillary and drop out after Iowa, effectively giving his share of the anti-Hillary votes to Obama? Will Edwards sabotage Hillary and drop out after Iowa, effectively giving his share of the anti-Hillary votes to Obama?

]]> By: NS, New York http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125042 NS, New York Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:44:37 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125042 Of course they piled on her, and they will keep doing it until they drop out. That's what trailers do to front-runners in all primaries. It has nothing to do with gender- it has everything to do with her standing in the polls. If Obama was first she'd be ganging up on him with Edwards and all the rest. Her bringing " the all-boys club" into was trying to play the gender card since she knows an all-girls club would be acting the same way in the situation. Of course they piled on her, and they will keep doing it until they drop out. That's what trailers do to front-runners in all primaries. It has nothing to do with gender- it has everything to do with her standing in the polls. If Obama was first she'd be ganging up on him with Edwards and all the rest. Her bringing " the all-boys club" into was trying to play the gender card since she knows an all-girls club would be acting the same way in the situation.

]]> By: P S , Tampa FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125024 P S , Tampa FL Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:13:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125024 John Edward has the most poisonous mouth. His word on Hillary remind me of the curse from an evil witch John Edward has the most poisonous mouth. His word on Hillary remind me of the curse from an evil witch

]]> By: DJ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125021 DJ Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:09:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125021 Johnny, you're just jealous. How many women presidents have we had? Hmmm, maybe she has a point. I'll vote for you Johnny if you promise to make all bad things go away. Johnny, you're just jealous. How many women presidents have we had? Hmmm, maybe she has a point. I'll vote for you Johnny if you promise to make all bad things go away.

]]> By: Boyswhine http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125019 Boyswhine Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:00:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-125019 and like your not playing, your a bad republican,and its like Obama playing the race card,his 80% missed vote my lord talk about misrepresentation for the people of "Chicago",maybe Hillary ought to be Senator there too,since she was born raised there.I see it in both of you run on your merits ya haven't done anything to create merits,we know everything about "Hillary"I still stand by her,guess what,her name has been around along time so i trust her more from the goldwater days.She is a Politican, your not,you couldnt get elected the last time you lost your home state so there is a reason for that,something's in hiding.She is right the boys club/z. earned it" take it Hillary"the first woman President. and like your not playing, your a bad republican,and its like Obama playing the race card,his 80% missed vote my lord talk about misrepresentation for the people of "Chicago",maybe Hillary ought to be Senator there too,since she was born raised there.I see it in both of you run on your merits ya haven't done anything to create merits,we know everything about "Hillary"I still stand by her,guess what,her name has been around along time so i trust her more from the goldwater days.She is a Politican, your not,you couldnt get elected the last time you lost your home state so there is a reason for that,something's in hiding.She is right the boys club/z. earned it" take it Hillary"the first woman President.

]]> By: Joe, Chicago, IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124941 Joe, Chicago, IL Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:31:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124941 Given Edwards own history of playing the race and gender cards, Michelman's argument has no credibility. When Elizabeth Edwards blamed the media for their campaigns poor press, she said; <i>""We can't make John black, we can't make him a woman".</i> Further, on his recent "Bubba" tour with Mudcat and Cooter, Edwards said: <i>"If you're running in a tough congressional district somewhere in America, anywhere in America, and I'm in one right now, okay...You gotta ask yourself would you rather have Senator Obama at the top of the ticket to help, Senator Clinton at the top of the ticket to help, or John Edwards at the top of the ticket to help. ... .. You got to have someone who is strong in all those places and who is not a drag on candidates who are trying to win in those places. ... .. The easiest way to do it, honestly, is to picture in your head each of us running in a tough place -- we're in one right now -- and which one's going to be more helpful and which one's not, because I think that does matter."</i> Finally, while we're being honest, let's not forget the cancer card that Edward played in his "Heros" ad. If it's OK for Edwards to play these race, gender, and cancer cards, then it's OK for everyone else! Given Edwards own history of playing the race and gender cards, Michelman's argument has no credibility.

When Elizabeth Edwards blamed the media for their campaigns poor press, she said; ""We can't make John black, we can't make him a woman".

Further, on his recent "Bubba" tour with Mudcat and Cooter, Edwards said:

"If you're running in a tough congressional district somewhere in America, anywhere in America, and I'm in one right now, okay...You gotta ask yourself would you rather have Senator Obama at the top of the ticket to help, Senator Clinton at the top of the ticket to help, or John Edwards at the top of the ticket to help. ... .. You got to have someone who is strong in all those places and who is not a drag on candidates who are trying to win in those places. ... .. The easiest way to do it, honestly, is to picture in your head each of us running in a tough place - we're in one right now - and which one's going to be more helpful and which one's not, because I think that does matter."

Finally, while we're being honest, let's not forget the cancer card that Edward played in his "Heros" ad.

If it's OK for Edwards to play these race, gender, and cancer cards, then it's OK for everyone else!

]]> By: kevin, chicago il http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124921 kevin, chicago il Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:54:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124921 Seriously people, 8 years of Hillary? It's fine to support a candidate enthusiastically, but when you are willing to write-off your chance to change your mind in 4 years, that's bordering on blind fanaticism. Seriously people, 8 years of Hillary? It's fine to support a candidate enthusiastically, but when you are willing to write-off your chance to change your mind in 4 years, that's bordering on blind fanaticism.

]]> By: J. Denver, CO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124890 J. Denver, CO Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:29:00 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124890 i am getting really sick of hearing Edwards bash Clinton....and I don't even like her. i am getting really sick of hearing Edwards bash Clinton....and I don't even like her.

]]> By: Lorenz, Queens, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124888 Lorenz, Queens, NY Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:27:29 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124888 YO EDWARDS - YOU TELL HER!!! YO EDWARDS – YOU TELL HER!!!

]]> By: Axel, RKDA, California http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124878 Axel, RKDA, California Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:13:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124878 <b>John, the only whiner in this race is you!!! You're soooo far behind in the polls that most people are going to see your constant attacks on Hillary for what they are: an act of desperation. Posted By Bea, Hoboken, NJ : November 3, 2007 2:58 pm</b> You forgot Barack Owhiner... But you certainly do have a point about acts of desperation. The more these guys whine about Hillary Clinton the more I am inclined to vote for her. Even though I don't necessarily consider her to be the person I feel is the most qualified to be President. As always it will end up being a two party race, and in a case like that you don't vote <b><i>for</i></b> the person you want to be President, you vote <b><i>against</i></b> the one you don't want to the power of being President. The good ol' "Lesser of Two Evils" game. And in this campaign, as much as I hate to admit it, Hillary Clinton is becoming the only logical choice. John, the only whiner in this race is you!!! You're soooo far behind in the polls that most people are going to see your constant attacks on Hillary for what they are: an act of desperation.

Posted By Bea, Hoboken, NJ : November 3, 2007 2:58 pm
You forgot Barack Owhiner... But you certainly do have a point about acts of desperation. The more these guys whine about Hillary Clinton the more I am inclined to vote for her. Even though I don't necessarily consider her to be the person I feel is the most qualified to be President.

As always it will end up being a two party race, and in a case like that you don't vote for the person you want to be President, you vote against the one you don't want to the power of being President. The good ol' "Lesser of Two Evils" game. And in this campaign, as much as I hate to admit it, Hillary Clinton is becoming the only logical choice.

]]> By: Eric, NY, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124874 Eric, NY, NY Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:10:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124874 Kate Michelman has, like the column states, endorsed Edwards months ago so no wonder she is engaged in the same type of negative attacks that the candidate that she supports has. Kate Michelman has, like the column states, endorsed Edwards months ago so no wonder she is engaged in the same type of negative attacks that the candidate that she supports has.

]]> By: P. Sherman, Ontario Canada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124872 P. Sherman, Ontario Canada Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:09:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124872 Who says she is playing the gender card? Her democratic opponents who are trailing? The republicans? I don't see where she has done this at all. During that last debate she stood up well against the obvious attacks on her and especially the scrutiny that Russert wanted to put on her while not doing the same to the other male candidates. Does he have as bad a bias against her as he seemed to display that evening? Who says she is playing the gender card? Her democratic opponents who are trailing? The republicans?
I don't see where she has done this at all. During that last debate she stood up well against the obvious attacks on her and especially the scrutiny that Russert wanted to put on her while not doing the same to the other male candidates. Does he have as bad a bias against her as he seemed to display that evening?

]]> By: Aaron http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124869 Aaron Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:08:32 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124869 Hillary is shrill, greed driven fraud, who is being exposed for who and what she truly is. She cant stand the heat. During Her short political career she has been protected from such cofrontation because she cant handle it...poor poor little Hillary.....better get used to it, little girl, its gonna get worse. teh end is near for your campaign......when you lose in Iowa the wheels will come completely off Hillary is shrill, greed driven fraud, who is being exposed for who and what she truly is. She cant stand the heat. During Her short political career she has been protected from such cofrontation because she cant handle it...poor poor little Hillary.....better get used to it, little girl, its gonna get worse. teh end is near for your campaign......when you lose in Iowa the wheels will come completely off

]]> By: Michelle M. LaCrosse, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124868 Michelle M. LaCrosse, WI Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:06:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124868 No gender bias, eh' John? Well, actions speak louder than words.... Based on the candidates actions and behavior over the last week or so, they only added more fuel to the fire and proved Hillary Clintons very point. Turn to any news station (except FOX, of course) and listen to the buzz and dissapointment over the growing 'hog pile' on Hillary Clinton. We are all getting tired of hearing what the other candidates think about Hillary Clinton. As if she is were the largest threat to our nation... Based on what I've seen so far, it seems that Clinton bashing is all that the other candidates have to offer... I don't know about the rest of the country, but I am setting much higher standards for selecting a new leader this time around. No gender bias, eh' John?

Well, actions speak louder than words....

Based on the candidates actions and behavior over the last week or so, they only added more fuel to the fire and proved Hillary Clintons very point.

Turn to any news station (except FOX, of course) and listen to the buzz and dissapointment over the growing 'hog pile' on Hillary Clinton.

We are all getting tired of hearing what the other candidates think about Hillary Clinton. As if she is were the largest threat to our nation...

Based on what I've seen so far, it seems that Clinton bashing is all that the other candidates have to offer...

I don't know about the rest of the country, but I am setting much higher standards for selecting a new leader this time around.

]]> By: Ken, San Diego, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124865 Ken, San Diego, CA Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:04:21 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124865 More misleads from "noble" John Edwards. Here is the excerpt of a press conference with Hillary Clinton (from the Boston Globe). And she's using a "gender shield" how? "I don't think they're piling on because I'm a woman," Clinton told reporters after filing her papers to appear on the New Hampshire primary ballot. "I think they're piling on because I'm winning." Clinton, who is well ahead in polls in New Hampshire and nationally, said she understands that "that's what happens in campaigns." Then, in the same breath, she declared her toughness and also made a joke about gender roles. "I anticipate it's going to get even hotter, and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen," she said. "And I'm very much at home in the kitchen." More misleads from "noble" John Edwards. Here is the excerpt of a press conference with Hillary Clinton (from the Boston Globe). And she's using a "gender shield" how?

"I don't think they're piling on because I'm a woman," Clinton told reporters after filing her papers to appear on the New Hampshire primary ballot. "I think they're piling on because I'm winning."

Clinton, who is well ahead in polls in New Hampshire and nationally, said she understands that "that's what happens in campaigns." Then, in the same breath, she declared her toughness and also made a joke about gender roles.

"I anticipate it's going to get even hotter, and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen," she said. "And I'm very much at home in the kitchen."

]]> By: June, Florida http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124852 June, Florida Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124852 Gender card ? Women card ? I believe Elizabeth, like lot of us, will do the same thing. Teach, educate, encourage and guide our daughters tough and strong to face today's world. She never plays gender card. She is A WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!! Gender card ? Women card ? I believe Elizabeth, like lot of us, will do the same thing. Teach, educate, encourage and guide our daughters tough and strong to face today's world. She never plays gender card. She is A WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Ken, San Diego, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124844 Ken, San Diego, CA Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:52:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124844 Gender card? That's funny. How many female presidents have we had? How many female presidential candidates have we had? Enough said... Gender card?

That's funny.

How many female presidents have we had?

How many female presidential candidates have we had?

Enough said...

]]> By: Justin/Denver Co. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124829 Justin/Denver Co. Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:32:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124829 Its pretty pathetic to see dems resorting to Rovian attacks on Hillary. This is just like the "Al Gore says he invented the internet" stuff Rove pulled in 00. Al never said he invented the internet, and Hillary has not cried about her gender, or being picked on by the "Good ol' Boys". However, if they repeat it enough...people will believe it, just like with Al. Its juts amazing how people in this country foster their own ignorance as if it were good. Its pretty pathetic to see dems resorting to Rovian attacks on Hillary. This is just like the "Al Gore says he invented the internet" stuff Rove pulled in 00. Al never said he invented the internet, and Hillary has not cried about her gender, or being picked on by the "Good ol' Boys".

However, if they repeat it enough...people will believe it, just like with Al. Its juts amazing how people in this country foster their own ignorance as if it were good.

]]> By: Marko, Portland, OR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124822 Marko, Portland, OR Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:25:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124822 Viva Hillary!! 2008 and 2012! Poor John. He knows he is not going to win so he's doing whatever. He knows Hillary is going to win and he's mad at her because, at the end, he's not the one people want. I don't even understand why he decided to run again after the embarrasing defeat of 2004. Bye bye! John. Viva Hillary!! 2008 and 2012! Poor John. He knows he is not going to win so he's doing whatever. He knows Hillary is going to win and he's mad at her because, at the end, he's not the one people want. I don't even understand why he decided to run again after the embarrasing defeat of 2004. Bye bye! John.

]]> By: John, Detroit, Michigan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124820 John, Detroit, Michigan Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:19:14 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/03/edwards-campaign-clinton-using-gender-as-a-shield/#comment-124820 frankly, isn't it true that presidential politics is an "all-boys" club? Her saying that isn't using gender as a defense. It's just the truth... Also, isn't it also slightly sexist of him to twist her words so that it seems she's trying to seem like a victim as a woman? He's trying to portray her as some "weepy woman," when her performance in the debate suggested otherwise (6 + Tim Russert against Hillary....). If gender isn't an issue, then why is he trying to make it one? Edwards is becoming more and more unlikeable with every update on the ticker. Some of his attacks are just getting revolting. frankly, isn't it true that presidential politics is an "all-boys" club? Her saying that isn't using gender as a defense. It's just the truth... Also, isn't it also slightly sexist of him to twist her words so that it seems she's trying to seem like a victim as a woman? He's trying to portray her as some "weepy woman," when her performance in the debate suggested otherwise (6 + Tim Russert against Hillary....). If gender isn't an issue, then why is he trying to make it one?

Edwards is becoming more and more unlikeable with every update on the ticker. Some of his attacks are just getting revolting.

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