Ron Paul 2008

"Can anyone spot the hacks from moveon.org who are spreading their tripe among these comments? So far, I spotted Jake from
San Diego CA, Larry from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, Richard from West Palm Beach, FL and Demonweed."

As much as I am gratified to be included in the company of such articulate folks , I must tell you , Dave T, Cleveland, Ohio , that I am not a hack for moveon.org and have never even visited their website . I am simply a concerned citizen who feels an obligation to speak out when I see people taking our country down a dead end road . If you really enjoy a conspiracy theory , check out the Kennedy assassination .

No one has claimed that Congress got a different report than Bush. Bush just chose which intelligence reports he liked and passed on. He didn't like Joe Wilson's report, so he ignored it and someone in the administration outed Joe's wife. Bush didn't like a $200 billion estimate of the war cost so he fired the source on the spot. He didn't like Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" analogy and ignored it. It is also a FACT that many in the Bush adminstration have been on record as advocating war against Iraq since years BEFORE 9/11. They just needed an excuse.

Bush was on duty when 9/11 happened. Every intelligence report available to Bill Clinton on his last day in office were available to Bush on his first day in office. Bush had EIGHT MONTHS to prevent 9/11 and FAILED. He was so unconcerned about an attack that George Tenet testified he had not been in touch with Bush during the MONTH before 9/11 because Bush was ON VACATION. Then, when 9/11 happened, Bush sat and read "The Pet Goat" while hundreds of Americans died in our cities. It was one of the most disgraceful performances by a "military leader" in history.

"Alert! Alert! Wayne from Greenville TX and Richard from West Palm Beach, FL appear to be a couple of hacks from moveon.org that prowl the comment sites and spew their tripe. I believe they are a couple of Hillary's morons that defame OBAMA every chance they get"
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Alert! Alert! Beware of people who attack others without actually checking ANY FACTS. There have been TWO comments from Richard from West Palm Beach about Obama and they both actually BLASTED the gullible people who believe Obama is a Muslim and refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Their nonsense is only exceeded by those who do not actually read comments. It is irresponsible for anyone claim that others belong to organizations they don't and that they are morons because they don't support the same candidate.

Those who viciously wage a war between Hillary and Barack need to use their heads. Half of you will lose. Will you then say "Nevermind. Vote Democrat anyway" or "vote Republican"? Tearing down each other only helps to convince independents that neither is worthy and they are the ones who WILL DETERMINE who our next president is. Start thinking!

Um, I like Cheney's comment about him being the Token Black Guy!

Can anyone list the web sites that are organizing efforts to arrest Hillary for campaign fund fraud (for starters)? Let's put these comment sites to good use. Can anyone spot the hacks from moveon.org who are spreading their tripe among these comments? So far, I spotted Jake from
San Diego CA, Larry from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, Richard from West Palm Beach, FL and Demonweed.

God Bless America and the people that work and give their lives to keep us safe and free! Neither Obama nor Hillary have the creditials or experience to run this country, regardless of what your opinion happens to be in regards to the current administration.

What a class act.

Obama is a joke. No experience, no class, and clearly, no common sense. He is a wet behind the (big) ears rookie who will get trounced in the primaries, no matter how much the liberal media boosts him.

If Cheney is crazy, why didn't he use an insanity defense when he shot his lawyer down in Texas. I think he is just retarded somewhat.

Richard Cheney is a sick man. He has advanced heart disease and an angry, paranoid mind. I'm not being facetious about this. I believe his sickness has affected the policy decisions of this administration. I'm not attacking the guy, I'm saying his personality changes that prompted former Bush Senior aide Brent Scrowcroft to say that he no longer knows Dick Cheney, are the reason so many reckless decisions were made in the Oval office. Cheney's clearly in charge of policy decisions at the White House. That's the whole point! A dangerous mind needs to be prevented from doing further damage to America. Otherwise, we can find ourselves in another crazy man's war…this time in Iran. Do you really think shooting someone (even an alleged friend) in the face doesn't have an element of unconscious anger? Many seem to be using this opportunity to blast Obama for yucking it up at Cheney's expense. I'm no fan of Obama, but I do know Richard Cheney is crazy. I think Obama is just saying what many in Congress already know but don't talk about because it could damage Republicans in the next election.

Wondering what room in house that would put Obama in??? Oh that's right outhouses were outside.

Once again, to paraphrase Jimmy Carter's brother Billy, using this logic, Mr. Cheney could simply reply by saying that "We all have a Magic Negro in the woodpile somewhere"…

Yeah- and Obama is the crafty Muslim in the closet.

Well, I see all of the CNN Lefy Loons are having a field day with this one! Ahhh it is nice to see everyone congregating at the local watering hole!

"The last time I heard anyone refering to crazy people in the attic, it was Ross Perot.
You know things must be bad, when you have to lift comments from the evil dwarf……"Posted By Ozzlefinch, CA :

Maybe so, but he was right about the giant sucking sound of NAFTA, and he campaigned with his own money before he was railroaded.

Alert! Alert! Wayne from Greenville TX and Richard from West Palm Beach, FL appear to be a couple of hacks from moveon.org that prowl the comment sites and spew their tripe. I believe they are a couple of Hillary's morons that defame OBAMA every chance they get. As a matter of fact, I believe it was Wayne that mentioned on another site that Obama was a "talking monkey" and with those ears, looked like a taxi cab coming down the street with both doors open! Give this guy a break!

You mean to tell me that your guys on the left read a different intelligence report? So the Bush administration got to pick and chose what was on that report? This is the SAME report that was brought to the house and senate. This is the same report John Kerry and Senator Clinton read. This is the same intelligence that President Clinton received before ordering the strikes on Iraq. So.. this is all a right wing conspiracy huh?? Bush and Cheney are laughing it up with a jar full of white out erasing what they want from intelligence reports. Come on guy! You've got to do better than that! If that were the case then that would mean that the President of the United States has been actively engaged in a conspiracy to deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people about the basis for going to war against Iraq. If true, such conduct constitutes a High Crime under Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution: “The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
Now… this is NOT the case therefore, your rhetoric and left wing talking points are untrue and unfounded. You and I both know that Bush and Cheney are not guilty of high crimes under these articles and will NEVER be tried for such nonsense. You still fail to comment about President Clinton’s words and actions…… Please enlighten us.

re: Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults.

Once again, a right-winger has literally shot himself in the foot by spewing something on this site that has no basis in fact. Like so many conservative positions…..

Posted By Wayne, Greenville TX : November 3, 2007 12:30 pm

You didn't even make a cogent comparison…"the right winger(s)" you referenced aren't even politicians. Didja notice? Obama is. Why don't you check your facts, genius?

To: Wayne in Texas

You can hate Cheney's politics, much as I dislike the Clintons' politics — but comparing him to Eichman? That is beneath contempt. It's too bad we can't have rational debate anymore.

It is hard to imagine what motivates the moronic and ill-informed grunting in this thread. So many one-liners seem born only of hate, yet those that try to present some sort of fact only wind up presenting a falsehood. What sort of citizen is not only mean and stupid, but also proud to flaunt mean stupidity in a public forum?

Anyway, I thought a couple of points made by mean stupid people deserved addressing. "Madrassa" is simply another word for "school." Insofar as it has come to mean a school of Islamic fundamentalism, promoting severe views including hostility toward the west, the term clearly does not apply to any institution where young Barack Obama studied. The actual place in Indonesia at issue teaches students of many religions, and the primary focus is on conventional scholarship rather than religious study. It as a school, but in no way was it an institution for advancing a particular faith, let alone a particular perversion of that faith.

Speaking of which, since when did it become fashionable for Christians to lie and spew so much hatred into the world? Barack Obama was obviously not the one member of our legislature to be sworn in on a Qur'an. There is the lie that it strains plausibility to imagine any adult intent on discussing civics would actually be stupid enough to believe.

Then there is also all this hatred in evidence on this thread. How many of today's Christians are really so insecure and xenophobic that they would favor a "compassionate conservative" whose idea of compassion is to aggressively promote the use of torture abroad and whose idea of conservatism is to make the nation obsessed with terrorist threats (i.e. to help the terrorists accomplish their goal of terrifying Americans) then break new ground in the history of government overspending. However nasty people feel a "tax and spend" approach may be, a "borrow and spend" approach is actually much worse for the economy, and by extension also future tax rates.

As a final note, I wonder how many of these venomous liars were on the Ann Coulter bandwagon back when Bill Clinton did respond to the Al Qaeada threat. People who are not totally clueless about the subject may remember that, on Dick Clarke's advice, Bill Clinton did attack several suspected Al Qaeada targets with surgical strikes. Almost as soon as this activity started, the right wing noise machines rolled out in full force with cries of "wag the dog."

Pundits and pseudojournalists were so obsessed with inflating the importance of a Presidential sex scandal that they were relentless in the call to end American responses to the Al Qaeada threat. It is true Clinton could have shown more courage and carried on with the attacks, but it is also true that dealing responsibly with the threat was denounced by the Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and pretty much all of their kindred on the conservative side of the political misinformation business. If people today are ignorant enough to swallow the "Obama's a closet Muslim" talking point, it seems almost certain at that time they also would have swallowed the "attacking Al Qaeada is just a distraction to take Ken Starr's vital investigation out of the headlines." My question for the peanut gallery is, how many times do these dittoheads have to swallow and regurgitate obvious lies before they begin to recognize the bitter taste of it all?

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.
Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 12:13 pm

Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults.
Once again, a right-winger has literally shot himself in the foot by spewing something on this site that has no basis in fact. Like so many conservative positions…..
Posted By Wayne, Greenville TX : November 3, 2007 12:30 pm

I don't believe that Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, or Ann Coulter are running for president. They get paid for offering their opinions. They are not politicians, Barack Obama, although not a good one, unfortunately is.

I've been saying for years that Bush is the Anti-Christ… and Cheney is Uncle Christ… Condi is the little Baby Christ… but Spartansburg??? is that Cynthia McKinney's town by any chance? Both parties are full of nuts!

Now thats funny. Calling out the crook Cheney, kudos…

The last time I heard anyone refering to crazy people in the attic, it was Ross Perot.
You know things must be bad, when you have to lift comments from the evil dwarf……

IN answer to this:
"Obama is not and never has been Muslim ..Posted By Mike, Cleveland, OH : November 4, 2007 11:42 am "

Obama was born to a Muslim father, and a Christian mother. Muslims would consider Obama to be born a muslim. His mother remarried to another muslim, and they moved to Indonesia where Obama had early schooling. In that muslim country parents are required to declare their religion, and the religion of their children. The schools are religiously based. It is very likely that Obama attended a madrassa in his early years. The information about his first schooling has never been publicized, only his later schooling after his mother left his step father.

Katie Couric's Notebook on the CBS news site dated 04-11-07 quotes a childhood friend (unnamed) who said he and Obama prayed together in the mosque, but 'not seriously' and that Obama also prayed with Catholic schoolmates. This is unusual for Indonesia where you go to jail for preaching Christianity to muslims as it is a crime to attempt to convert muslims there. You can get the death penalty. The real truth about young Obama's background is open because the detailes are totally obscure. That tells me he was likely truley raised as a muslim in those years

Yes, but Uncle Cheney salutes the flag and can even speak the pledge of alligance. Senator OBAMA does neither.

Hopefully, Cheney's little pinky realizes it makes no sense whatsoever that a person running for president of the United States would refuse to take the Pledge of Allegiance. That rumor is total NONSENSE for people uninterested in truth.

If anyone actually cares, films show that Barack, like a lot of people, did not put his hand over his heart for the NATIONAL ANTHEM in the circulated picture. Films also show that he sang along with the whole anthem and applauded at the end. He DID NOT REFUSE to say the pledge and stopped wearing his flag pin because he felt there were too many people wearing it who were hypocrits. Wake up!

Obama and his ilk should kiss the ground his cousin, Dick, walks on. Thank God this country has him in the White House. His "take no prisoners" approach is just what we needed post 9/11. He is a true patriot and will be recognized by virtually everyone 20 years from now. As to why he has not been impeached? On what grounds? Because my good friends on the Left don't like the guy? Not good enough, boys and girls….

This from the guy running for president who doesn't want to wear the flag or say the pledge. Cheney has more sense in his little pinky than Hussien Obama will have pver his entire life.

Dick Cheney is an easy target for libs to take shots at because he has always been willing to do the heavy lifting that most libs can't or won't do. Unlike many limo-libs, Cheney is a self made man who rose from poverty and donates most of his wealth to charity. Its a lot easier to be a liberal, the expectations are lower.

Barack can only wish he had the intelligence and government service credentials of Dick Cheney, then and only then could he be considered qualified to be President

Obama needs to concentrate on his message, not disparaging others. He is at his best when he stays on message and does not engage in personal attacks against the other party. I am a Republican, but Obama could be the second Democrat that I have ever voted for. Carter was the first and look how that turned out.

Lol! But lets keep the headlines about whats really important Mr. Obama. Let's keep the spotlight going on Hillary Rotten Clinton. She needs to be taken down and you are the man this country needs. Your crazy uncle will soon be put out to pasture but Hillary is the country's true enemy. With her baggage and hidden secrets that she wants left hidden, She is ripe for the knockout. Go Obama!

I wish the HOURNABLE RICHARD CHENEY would find it in him to serve this great nation of ours once more and RUN FOR PRESIDENT! this guy is a genius as well as unshakable. WE NEED YOU DICK.just leave the shotgun at home

They can't possibly be related !!! Cheney ain't got them Dumbo ears, and he has a brain that functions properly. "Keep hope alive."

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.

Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 12:13 pm

Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults.

Once again, a right-winger has literally shot himself in the foot by spewing something on this site that has no basis in fact. Like so many conservative positions…..

Posted By Wayne, Greenville TX : November 3, 2007 12:30 pm

You are comparing political pundits who are in fact, entertainers with a wannabe politician.

It is scary to think that there may actually be people paranoid enough to think that a president could change the religion of our nation. It shows an incredible lack of knowledge of the composition of our people and a total absense of understanding how our government works. People who say they believe in God brag that they make up 85% of the population and yet some are so ignorant that they think a small minority religion can out-vote them and take over the country. This is not Germany or other nations where leadership can be illegally grabbed. This is a nation where the people VOTE to decide who will lead it.

Wake up! Learn about the candidates. Don't believe in racist smears, but actually look at FACTS. Barack Obama is a Christian who has been attending United Church of Christ in Chicago since the mid 1980's. THERE IS NOT ONE FACT TO SUPPORT ANY CLAIMS THAT ANYTHING HE HAS DONE IN HIS ADULT LIFE INDICATES THAT OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. Look it up! Think for yourself! Think!

Amazing how democrats can accuse the opposition of 'hate speech' when no insult, or slanderous accusation about the president or vice president is too extreme or taboo. Talk aboout a seperate reality! I was no fan of Bill Clinton, but i didnt hate him, but this is how some behave, simply because they lost two elections. A pity, because what goes around comes around, just give it time!

I guess civility is reserved for those with a D behind their names. So much for the politics of hope…

Remind me again, was it "crazy uncle" Cheney threatening to unilaterally invade a nuclear nation?

I imagine that Osama Obama is the black sheep that no one wants to move into the neighborhood either…

Obama is unfit to lead anything more important than a grammar school parade, much less to criticize a man of Cheney’s accomplishments. The left wing nutters posting here remind me of the white trash racists of a bygone era, who felt superior to blacks, not by virtue of their own accomplishments, but by their presumption of superiority inherent in their skin color. Likewise, do the wretched leftists feel themselves so superior in their political affiliations to slander a sitting vice president and former Fortune 50 CEO.

Funny (HA HA), heard it before. I see the crazy uncle in the attic being anyone that would vote for an untested senator who hasn't even completed one term. I believe that he was going to end his political career if he didn't win the senate seat. Let’s face it, if he was not black he would not even be a blip on the screen.

Yeah, he's crazy alright. Crazy like a fox. I just love that guy Cheney. He's a visionary man; Obama's a naive child.

No one has ever claimed that Cheney doctored intelligence reports. The administration just picked and chose those they liked. When Joe Wilson came up with conflicting information, they ignored him and outed his wife. When top economic adviser Larry Lindsey said he thought the war could cost $200 billion, they fired him within 24 hours.

We have had more soldiers killed in a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 than Americans who died in 9/11. Al qaeda was under control in Iraq until Bush made it easier for them. As analysts pointed out, bin Laden released his first message in a year just days before the American election in a move that clearly helped Bush. Obviously, bin Laden felt he could generate more supporters using Bush as president than a newcomer. After all, it was Bush who said that he wasn't all that concerned about bin Laden.

Cheney hasn't always been wrong. After the Gulf War when they actually knew Saddam had WMD, Cheney said "How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right". "Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off". "It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.". If only he was smart enough to listen to himself.

Old Cheney really needs to retire from the VP Post. I know it's late in this administration but he should never have been given the opportunity to be on Bushster's ticket. His health problems were always life threatening. It's just the first of many infinitely bad decisions Dubya made. Of course, the jury is still out as to who in fact chose Cheney to be on the ticket (i.e., the nation's oil/war-profiteering pirates). Cheney likely has always been on heavy cardiac meds and drinks alcohol on hunting trips. Such serious vulnerabilities affect sound decision making and the VP's job performance affects all U.S. citizens. Long-term heart disease (3 heart attacks) means compromised blood flow to the brain. I'm telling you, this guy needs to go before his paranoid mind sends our kids to die in Iran. Halliburton$$$ got what he intended for them, now JUST LEAVE D.C.!

Are you sure that is the Bible he is using to swear in on?

I agree that a presidential candidate needs to be careful about name-calling. It was insensitive for him to use the term, "crazy" in his description. Leave mental illness jokes out of the picture. People struggling with such issues have a hard enough time in our society.

Imagine the outrage if Cheney called Obama "the family black sheep"?

CNN do some work this joke has been around for a couple of weeks…

Is this all the democrats have to offer?
We are suppossed to pick the next leader of the free world based upon insults?
This laser focus on adressing the issues of the day tells us all we need to know about this candidate.

If the Dems want to have any chance of winning in '08 they need to spend a whole lot less time whining, and a whole lot more time talking about the rational, implementable stuff they intend to do. And Congress needs to actually accomplish some stuff, to demonstrate that they can govern and not just squabble about dumb, pointless resolutions.

Unfortunately, unless the Dems stage a miraculous escape from the clutches of the insane radical left, I don't expect either of these to happen anytime soon.

Obama…who's calling who the crazy uncle. I think it's you that's taken the leap to the looney side.

Wow…I'm actually dumber for having read through this story…or lack of a story…What happened to real journalism? AmeriKa is becoming a sad, sad place to be from anymore…

FYI Mr Obama: I'm an independent voter, and while this may help you pander to you base, the continued demonization of someone that some of us still consider a hero from the first gulf war will get you no points. The road to the white house does not go through the left wing, you will need us middle ground people, and it's not wise to go to far and leave disrespectful comments out there us to remember

Cheney is worse than a crazy uncle in the attic. He lied to the american people about WMD's and most everything else to get the american people behind the Iraq war. Prove to me this war is not unjust, and Dick Cheney is not a murderer, who lives in a world that is to powerful to touch.

If he was in Obama's attic he should lock the attic door and throw away the key.

Richard,
So you're saying he doctored the itelligence report for his own political gain? The same intelligence report that your Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Richardson, Albright and the rest of your party saw? So did president Bill Clinton alter up some intelligence report also when he said "They Will Be All The More Lethal If We Allow Them To Build Arsenals Of Nuclear, Chemical And Biological Weapons And The Missiles To Deliver Them. We Simply Cannot Allow That To Happen. There Is No More Clear Example Of This Threat Than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His Regime Threatens The Safety Of His People, The Stability Of His Region And The Security Of All The Rest Of Us." Or how about when he ordered a strike on "Iraq's Nuclear, Chemical and Bilogical Weapons progam." I suppose he was concocting a war for political gain too. Come on are you serious?

Let me see… If I said that "Everybody's got a black sheep in the family. wouldn't I be considered a racist.. Shouldn't he cuz the WHITE side of him said that??? And referring to a CRAZY uncle isn't that wrong in saying something about a mental patient.. Yeah if I would have said that… or a white republican..

Honestly, who gives a rats butt about Obama, I have no trust in him at all. He would be an appeaser and dangerous. He is the most naive man I have ever seen. To think he has gone this far is astounding.

Wonder what would be said about Dick Cheney if he had made the same remark about a "black sheep" in every family. All out outrage and accusations of racial tones, etc. I'm sure.

So that's what Obama thinks is appropriate treatment for mentally ill relatives? As a person who has received psychiatric treatment, I am outraged that he would make light of mental illness.

Joshua San Antonio, TX:

Cheney was wrong about WMD like a lot of other statements he has made about Iraq. The administration convinced a lot of people from both parties that the military intelligence was right. Statements from Paul O’Neill, Richard Clarke, Bob Woodward, George Tenet, and the Downing Street report all show that Bush wanted an excuse to invade Iraq. Bush showed his usual morality by blaming faulty itelligence and then giving our nation's highest award to George Tenet.

Cheney is a patriot and a good man. It is shameful the way the media has unfairly characterized him. And why does the media take aim? Because he is Conservative, targets and fights Islamo Facists, and because he has little, if any, charisma.

Read the posts by "Wayne in Greenville, Texas" on this thread. This is who you are Democrats, I would bet that he is a MoveOn, CNN, Bill Maher, Daily Kos supporter. Comparing OUR Vice-President (yes, he's OUR VP voted not once, but TWICE )) to Nazi croonies. Nice Wayne, nice…..

C'mon guys, time for you to set these extremists straight. If you want the moderate vote again, shut guys like Wayne up, and tell America you will fight Islamo Facists and mean it.

CNN (Corrupt News Network) is always after Ann Coulter when she makes personal attacks on the Democrats. But here we have a case where a elected Democrat, Muslim Obama, makes a personal attack against our VP and where's the outrage? from America's corrupt liberal MSM wolfpack press?? Liberals, once again, show their intolerance…………where am i wrong?

"Two reasons to be a republican":
1)"you are rich & want a tax break
2) you are stupid"

THANKS TO SUNNY IN MIAMI FL FOR POSTING THAT LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEGE, YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT PERFECTLY, DEMOCRATS DO NOTHING BUT INSULT, THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW!!! by the way, i'm not rich and i know i'm not stupid but i sure LOVE being a republican!!!!

Obama: what an insult, but that's what democrats do well, don't they?
Posted By Teresa Knoxville TN : November 5, 2007 12:54 pm

You people truly are nuts! Read these comments. No, really, read them all and don't ignore the ones where people call a US Senator a "communist" and a traitor, then the racist remarks, don't forget to also read the ones that personally insult "liberals" and Democrats, and of course be sure to read the ones where you insult others' intelligence while citing false news stories and urban legends as 'facts' with a straight face!!

No hate like conservative hate. Just ask Ann Coulter.

I find Obama's comments insensitive to Americans with family members suffering from mental disorders. Shame on him for considering this comment to be either funny or appropriate. Shame on those of you who agree with him. You don't treat family this shabbily – even distant family that you disagree with.
Posted By Jim : November 5, 2007 10:54 am

To Jim and all the others who are "upset" that Obama insulted those with mental disorders: you are so insincere you should be ashamed of yourselves and go to seek forgiveness for such hubris and disgusting partisanship and abuse of others. Of course, you won't feel shame. You are simply sick, sad, individuals.

Bubbling underneath the surface, however, is something far more sinister than Hussein Obama being wet-behind-the-ears. His lack of forthrightness about his Muslim background should have all Americans concerned.

An investigation of Hussein Obama's background by his political opponents has revealed that he was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. He spent at least four years in a Madrassa, or Muslim seminary. A source close to the investigation said "He was a Muslim, but he concealed it."

The background check disclosed the details of Hussein Obama's Muslim past.

The conclusions are crystal clear: He concealed his prior Muslim faith and education. In his two autobiographies, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"-Hussein Obama makes a brief reference to, but does not expand on his Muslim past, mentioning only that he attended a predominantly Muslim school. Investigation sources said he was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which he rarely uses in public.

One wonders why.

The investigation on Hussein Obama zeroed in on his years in Jakarta. After his parents divorced, (his father was black and hailed from Kenya), his mother married an Indonesian student and moved there. Indonesia is considered a moderate Muslim state. However, U.S. intelligence has determined that most of the schools teach Wahhabbi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims, and these schools are financed in large part by the Saudi Arabian government.

This is deeply disturbing.

The investigation into Hussein Obama's background is ongoing, but the evidence uncovered so far seems to indicate that he may still be a Muslim, with ties to Islam. He has made faith an issue in recent months, professing to be a Christian. He supposedly attends Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, but not regularly. One source said "Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community. This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks." Sources indicated that Hussein Obama spent four years in this Madrassa.

Last November, Keith Ellison was elected the first Muslim congressman. He raised eyebrows by insisting on taking the ceremonial oath of office on a Koran.

Those eyebrows were raised for good reason.

Recently, Jaafar Sheikh Idris, founder and chairman of American Open University, a distance learning center based in Alexandria, Virginia and known to local law enforcement as "Wahhabbi Online", denounced the United States' constitutionally limited republic as the "antithesis of Islam" arguing that no man has the right to make laws outside Allah's laws expressed in the Koran. He said "There is a basic difference between Islam and this form of democracy. The basic difference is that in Islam it is [Allah's] law as expressed in the Koran and the Sunna that is the supreme law within the limits of which people have the right to legislate.

"No one can be a Muslim who makes or freely accepts or believes that anyone has the right to make or accept legislation that is contrary to that divine law, "Idris added. "Examples of such violations include the legalization of alcoholic drinks, gambling, homosexuality, usury or interest, and even adoption."

Ellison attempted to placate his detractors by taking the oath of office on a Koran once owned by Thomas Jefferson claiming that Jefferson was well aware of the wisdom that could be gained from its teachings.

Ted Sampley, publisher of U.S. Veteran Dispatch, wrote that "there is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing that wisdom could be 'gleaned' from the Muslim Koran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to understand everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic 'Barbary' states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli."

In other words, the reason Jefferson possessed a Koran was so that he could know his enemies.

No man can serve two masters. It is a contradiction for Ellison to have taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the United States Constitution on a Koran, because Islamic law is in direct opposition to our laws. Who will Ellison serve? He has stated categorically that his Islamic beliefs will play a large part in his decision-making process. He told a group meeting in Detroit recently that "I'm not here to be a preacher, but in terms of political agenda items, my faith informs these things."

When asked which would take priority should a conflict arise, or to describe how the congressman will resolve the differing philosophies provided by the U.S. Constitution and the Koran, which calls for beheading "infidels", he said he could not answer immediately.

It is clear that there is a dangerous situation brewing in our government. If one professed follower of Islam and another who is suspected of it are allowed to serve in elected office, how long will it be before our nation becomes Muslim, like much of western Europe? Will men soon be praying in mosques five times a day? Will women soon be forced to wear burqas?

Why Barack Obama? http://wareandhill.com/contact.html

In 10 years who will remember Barack Hussien Obama? No one. He is having his 15 seconds of fame. Enjoy it, Senator. In a year you will back in the Senate, doing what you have been doing for a year. NOTHING!

What an insult, whether you like the Vice President or not. I am sick of it…but that's what democrats are good at, aren't they?

Obama: what an insult, but that's what democrats do well, don't they?

"People here in Chicago this koran deal swearing in on it,peaved so many people off,we need a canidate who swears on the bible,and takes the Oath of Office, A United States Citzen.not someone who lived in idonesia,kenya.someone who has resided In The US there entire life.
they dont beleive him at all,he hasn't accompolished anything because of these missed votes and for the people of Chicago,I myself haven't followed him that much it's what people are saying around me here."

Spoken like a true conservative erudite – nothing but lies, propaganda, and spelling mistakes. You probably believe that Al Gore said he invented the Internet, too? Obama was NOT sworn in on the Koran, that was a conservative media misprint that you dopes believed. And if we dismiss presidents who have spent time in foreign lands, then I guess you'd consider Eisenhower some kind of traitor as well? Get out of the nuthouse in Elk Grove, Itasca, or whatever forgotten burb you live in because I'm from Chicago (not a burb) and the people here support Obama because we're sick of incompetent, lying, hypocrite conservatives (notice I didn't say Republicans – hey guys, please reclaim your party before it completely erodes into the Retardican Party)

"Cheney was nobly serving the American people when Baraka Hussein Obama was memorizing the Qu'ran in the Philippines and learning to hate America."
— — —
There is NOT ONE FACT ANYWHERE to support irresponsible claims that Barack Obama hates America NOR THAT HE IS A MUSLIM. Obama attended the Muslim school in the Philipines when he was 8 to 10 years old. He also attended a CATHOLIC school. No one seems to have the integrity to mention that. It is mindless to think that Obama has been plotting against this country since he was less than 10 years old. It is a reflection on people themselves when they make claims that Obama has been faking allegiance to this country for 36 years just waiting to somehow subvert it.

As I read the other comments–I'm not surprised at how Cheney has been so well demonized by the left. This man has done NOTHING but promote democracy around the world. Extolled the virtues of the USA. Helped removed some of the most brutal people in the world–YET he is the "BAD GUY" in the eyes of the ignorant and misinformed.

In almost eight years of political attacks and dirty tricks by the dems Cheney has never been "EXPOSED" as something less than an HONEST person of integrity and passionate believer in his country's virtues. But the dems have managed to persuade the IGNORANT that he is the devil encarnate! by offering accusations and conspiracy theories while twisting the facts to fit into them.

The "WITCHES" at Salem had a more "evidence" to convict them than you have of CHENEY and BUSH!

You should be ashamed!

wow does that mean that cheney's familt onwed obama's at on time

"There is no newsworthy content in this article whatsoever, but it does serve as a meeting place for Republican Haters to demonstrate their hatred. If you're here to increase your political IQ, save yourself and leave now!"

Posted By Jay, Kenosha, WI : November 3, 2007 12:29 pm

Read the comments – who's spewing hate? It's not Conservatives.

Speaking of demeanor and class, wasn't it Cheney who's twice been censored for swearing at Congressmen on the floor and has been caught several times on tape swearing at other politicians, the press, ordinary citizens? As it seems, don't let facts or decency get in the way of a good conservative attack.

So lets get this strait once and for all. Its not good to kill a fetus….but its ok to kill and mame our children. God cries when he looks at you. Remember that.

Posted By Captain Liberty : November 5, 2007 8:48 am

If you are refering to the Arabic wars, you can thank your own Jimmy Carter for this mess. It was HIM and HIS ADMINISTRATION that has been giving us the ills for Reagan, Bush41, Clinton, and Bush43. For what has been happening with the Arab terrorist groups, I blame not one president since Carter. Now, there are fools in the Senate that still protect this lil peen-nut and his 'legacy'.
Hillary, actually innocent from this part. Edwards, too much of a bumbling fool. Barack however, too much of an Arab sympathizer. And supports killing children. In the US that I know, its called collaraboration to murder. Idiot Dems call it unfortunate circumstances. War is war. Yes God frowns upon it. But in the war, its governed by choices-a God given right. Tell me if those babies have choices? Ooops, forgot, they aren't listed as life. Wonder if God will say the say thing when the Maker is met.

Obama who? Oh another pathetic senator running for higher office thats who. Yawnnnn.

Its OK Democrats can make offensive commemts, especially if they are African Democrats. BTW did B. Hussain Obama make that comment while campainging in an African Church?? you know democrats are real big on seperation of church and state!

Cheney was nobly serving the American people when Baraka Hussein Obama was memorizing the Qu'ran in the Philippines and learning to hate America.

Obama is the least qualfied tobe president. Like hillery he is far from qualified and is not a thinking person just a loud mouth as is hillery.

Dick Cheney told us that “We will in fact, be greeted as liberators…I think it will go relatively quickly.. (in) weeks rather than months” when we went into Iraq. He said "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.".

Two years ago Cheney said “I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.". Another false statement from him was "(Saddam Hussein) had an established relationship with al Qaeda".

Getting major points like that consistently wrong is the reason that a poll a while ago gave Cheney a 17% approval rating, which is even worse than Bush who constantly has some of the lowest approval ratings ever. Supporters can only "brag" about it by claiming it is higher than Congress's rating, but then they need to admit that Democrats there still rate higher than Republicans. With both sides doing very badly, it is still the Republicans that lower the overall average.

Cheney is part of an administration that has INCREASED OUR NATIONAL DEBT BY 50%. The Republicans love the myth that Democrats generate debt, but anyone can look at the statistics and see that almost every one of the 20 highest deficits in our history came from Bush, his father, and Ronald Reagan. The LARGEST DEBT-GENERATING PRESIDENTS have been "CONSERVATIVES". The largest SURPLUS in history came from Bill Clinton.

At least Cheney serves his country proudly. Obama Osama doesn't even hold his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, which is respect for the US and who wants a president that attended a Madrasa? Not I

In the first democrat debate, Barack Hussein Obama was asked to name the top three allies of the U.S. He stammered and then said the European Union, which is neither a country nor an ally.

I prefer the crazy uncle. Obama is a fool and a stalking horse for HRC.

There are only two reasons to be a Republican:
(1) You are rich and want a tax break.
(2) You are stupid.

Come on Senator, The presidency is only 4 or 8 years! Family is 4ever!

Anyone with a brain should realize that if you think Mr. (won't wear the flag or hold his hand over his heart during or even say the pledge of allegiance) Obama is smarter or has more character than V.P. Cheney, you are in big time denial about who is and isn't qualified to hold office in this great land. God bless America.

Just what civil discourse in this country needs, another article referring to Dick Cheney, allowing all the haters out there to spew their venom one more time. Who they gonna pick on after Jan. 2009? President Giuliani?

For all you people that HATE Dick Cheney and just think he's straight from the Nazi era, please tell me EXACTLY what he has done to rate such vitriole. And don't give me hyperbole. I want actual EXAMPLES! Trampled the Constitution? Show me! Invaded privacy? Show me! Getting kickbacks from Halliburton? PLEASE! You won't be able to because you have become party robots. Dick Cheney has served his country, whether you like the WAY he has, for 30 years.

SOME sense of decorum is called for here…

Barack HUSSEIN Obama. How could anyone vote for a man who is afraid of his middle name. As for being Hillarys Vice Pres, no chance. She already has that vote and she's not interested in there being any other FIRST'S in her administration. This is ALL about Hillary.

The song "Uncle Sam" by Atmosphere.

I love to see all the petty people on here find it so easy to assassinate the character of a man. Probably the same people that stood by & supported Bill Clinton as he ignored fanatical Islamists as they repeatedly bombed & harassed us worldwide.
ps -there WERE weapons of mass destruction in Iraq…WE SOLD THEM TO THEM!…question is where was the evidence as required by the United Nations that they were destroyed? Nobody wants to talk about THAT now!

Larry

The only thing that is a joke is that Obama actually thinks he can become our next president

Just another example that Obama is immature and doesn't know what he's talking about.

Dick Cheney is an honorable and decent man who understands the world we live in.

Obama does not.

Obama a man of no class. Is this the best he can do, call names? He will get my vote. NOT

I find Obama's comments insensitive to Americans with family members suffering from mental disorders. Shame on him for considering this comment to be either funny or appropriate. Shame on those of you who agree with him. You don't treat family this shabbily – even distant family that you disagree with.

The Bush-Cheney Republicans continue to whine shrilly when anyone speaks the truth about their corrupt administration. Hell, I wish the only problem was that they were crazy. Unfortunately, they're also sublimely crafty and downright evil sleazebags. The Republican Party and Republicans in general should be ashamed of their defense of these men. Obama let him off lightly.

Too bad the name Clinton is still on the ballot as well.

Crazy uncle .. hah! This from the schizoid who whines about the war against terrorism and then proclaims he will invade our ally in Pakistan! Yikes!

So, it's OK to label another human being as "crazy" as long as you're a liberal talking about a white man. If this were reversed and a conservative had called a black man "crazy", Al & Jesse would be screaming about racism and insensitivity to those who are mentally challenged.

obama is as shallow and base like most dim-o-rats.they havent had a new idea since 1968!plus,their jokes are from the 20's.tax and waste and waste some more on butterfly museums,college degrees for prison inmates,and farm subsidies for millionaire sugar/cotton farmers.idiots with the economic sense of children!barack obama is so stupid,he does not realize how stupid he is!

Senator Obama, bashing the best Vice President this country has ever had will not have a positive impact on your campaign. You are not Presidential material, sir.

You need more than the left kook fringe to be elected to the highest office in the country. And rhetoric like this just illustrates how poorly prepared you are to serve. It's a bad move, Barack.

V.P Cheney has more intelligence in his nose hairs that Obama has in his whole body. Cheney also is not a graduate from drug rehab like the Senator from Illinois.

Obama is just a "dumb blonde"

Obama: "Everybody's got a black sheep in the family. A crazy uncle in the attic."

Cheney retort should be: "Everybody's got a black in the family. A lazy uncle on welfare."

Obama, just say, I am a communust, it will make you feel better.

Isn't this "joke" showing terrible INSENSITIVITY to those with mental problems. Where's their Lobby???

Hey Obama! Dick Cheney is my HERO. Sorry you are not half the man he is.

Sorry for the obvious above grammer errors, my spelling is abhorrent

"Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults".

Last time I checked, non of these people were elected to office or running for President!

No matter what you feel about Obama, or Cheney, a candidate for the Presidency referring to the vice president of the United States as "the crazy uncle in the attack" is pathetic.

Same for Hillary last week saying that the Supreme Court gave Bush the election.

In a lot of families, that would be a compliment, or just the pot calling the kettle… well you know. I guess the question is, which one is this?

Not a very mature thing to say – however, this is the democrat party way. Hurl insults at people you don't agree with, except our true enemies. Claim the other side does it (not office holders) and then you think you are justified.

Presidential, I think not.

"And for the first time, the name Barack Hussein Obama will not appear on the ballot."

I actually think Obama has the makings of a great politician, but he jumped in too early… and will be a has-been from now on. Unfortunately, if he had waited until 2012 or 2016, he would have had a much longer liberal record that would have repulsed most Americans.

Hmmm. Basically, he's good at giving speeches. But that's not enough to lead the free world.

Why is it that Obabma never mentions his white heritage or his own white grand mother? You know the one that raised him. Sounds to me like Obama is hiding her in the attic too. This might explain why:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/30/122029.shtml

Typical name calling. No new ideas, no vision, just elementary school name calling. Now go ahead libs, call me names…Bushbot, etc. I can take it. Unfortunately, you can't discuss the facts. Keep on name calling, the American who think for themselves are getting tired of it. It won't win you the White House or anything else in 2008

Cheney has got to be laughing at all of this. Obama had better start running against Hillary. Someone should tell him that Bush/Cheney won't be on the ballot in 2008.

It really cracks me up…..all these posts in favor of the current administration. Funny thing is….the people in power now are not conservatives, they are neo-conservatives. And neo- conservatism is a soft word for Fascism. So all you idiots out there defending bush, cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz are also supporting the principals of neo-conservatism. THESE PEOPLE HAVE THIER OWN AGENDA PEOPLE. And you arent apart of it. They want the american people at each others throats…these are not real conservatives. They are buisnessmen who have been elevated to offices. The only thing about you they care about is your money. And how they can make it theres. So keep believing the lies and killing our once great free country. Just what the fascists need more sheeple for the flock of ignorance and brutality.

The media missed the point of Obama's words. It wasn't about Cheney. It was about how the new Democrat government run health care system will require you to keep your sick relatives in the attic because the mismanaged system will be turning sick people away. By the way, I just got back from England. There is a story over there in the press about how half the citizens are pulling their own teeth because they can't find a competant government dentist.

I don't know why I bother coming over here from Drudge. It is the same silly political hacks who do nothing but belittle the "other" party.

No common sense prevails here. Not one ounce of intelligent discourse arrives on scene.

Stupid political rhetoric from stupid political hacks…

A baby killer pointing fingers at Dick Cheney should be aware of his own glass house. How many sleepless nights do you have Obama from the countless aborted babies that survived the process in Illinois only to have you voted against their living. Cheney is no saint, but by far neither are you. Barack Baby-Killer Obama

Posted By Erik, Virginia Beach, VA : November 5, 2007 7:26 am

So lets get this strait once and for all. Its not good to kill a fetus….but its ok to kill and mame our children. God cries when he looks at you. Remember that.

It really cracks me up when people NOT in a gulag, concentration camp, or gas chamber compare our leaders to Nazis- much like the people (I know several) that are making six figure incomes and complaining about the rotten economy.

"Didn't Senator Obama take his oath of office on the Q'ran and not the King James Bible. Should we trust this man? What are his true feelings regarding Islam? Is he Arab or American? Please don't tell me his an Arab-American. We've heard enough about ethic Americanism. We are all Americans and not African-American, Chinese-American, Polish-American, we're just Americans who speak English."

James just go back to sleep the GOP has everything under control

Obama displays insensitivity to the mentally ill in suggesting that "crazy" relatives are to be warehoused and hidden. It should not be treated as acceptable for people to be prejudiced so long as they are black.

Wow, the comments on this post seem amazingly sympathetic to the democratic view. Could it be CNN selectively choosing favorable comments to make the dems seem more dominant in their views? Nooooooo. CNN would never do that, they are reputable, and honest brokers of news–they NEVER have a slant or bias….

Bet this post ends up in the trash. The Clinton News Network is what it is….

Tom: Diabolical? Evil? Please reserve those for the leaders of Iran and North Korea. You water down their meaning. At least the VP wont have your head detatched for saying such things. Agree or disagree with his policies, I truly believe he was doing what he thought best for the US (and western civilization, for that matter). Time will tell.

I would suggest you democrats who think caving into dangerous tyrants is such a grand idea Google "Neville Chamberlain"
You speak of the Nazis jokingly, which shows you don't really understand the evil that exist in the hearts of the Islamofacists. They have told you their intent, yet you still think we can "talk" them out of their plans to impose their twisted views on the rest of the world.
The fact remains, these terrorist fear and respect Republicans, which helps keep the cork in the bottle, so to speak. Why do you think Bin Laden releases tapes prior to elections showing his support for democrats?
People are too busy watching American Idol bother with history, and the lessons it teaches. In the end, people get the government they DESERVE. Our founding fathers must be spinning like tops in their graves…

That is the pot calling the kettle black!

hey obama, at least someone from your family will have made it to the whitehouse! enjoy your ever widening 2nd place…

Obama is an idiot for saying something that stupid. And this guy, wants to be a statesman. Please, save us from that discrace.

Sometimes our politicians just do not show any class.

"If elected president, I will hurl insults at our enemies until they stop doing bad things. This is called 'diplomacy'. War will be a thing of the past."

A baby killer pointing fingers at Dick Cheney should be aware of his own glass house. How many sleepless nights do you have Obama from the countless aborted babies that survived the process in Illinois only to have you voted against their living. Cheney is no saint, but by far neither are you. Barack Baby-Killer Obama

refresh my mind who wants to attack pakastain .

dan rather is obama's father.

black sheep?

hmm, thoughthat might be michelle.

You say Obama, I say Osama…same thing

I think BHO is an exciting presidential candidate. He is 'articulate', 'clean' and a good dancer, all important Democrat qualifications.

The man achieved office through tactics that corrupted the democratic process. Then he advanced a bold agenda to shut down constitutional checks on power of the top executive official. During the rush into an unjustified war, he denounced critics of policy as traitors to the nation. Through a campaign of deliberate misinformation, he created the public perception of a grave foreign threat where none existed. He sometimes operated out of a secret underground bunker, he made sweeping use of the power to designate public documents state secrets, and his close associates made tremendous profits from the war effort.

Yeah, Adolph Hitler sure was a bad man. I can see why no one should ever make any sort of comparison at all to a modern American official.

Don't you love the indignant people who are so scandalized that a senator would make such a relatively innocuous joke (which is actually more fact than fiction) about the man who told Senator Leahy to f**k himself?

It is beyond comprehension how these people think.

First Wayne writes:

"Comparing Cheney to a great statesman like Winston Churchill is a supreme insult to Churchill's memory. A better comparison would probably be between Cheney and one of the men in Hitler's inner circle, such as Adolf Eichman."

Then Wayne writes this gem:

"Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults.

Once again, a rigt-winger has literally shot himself in the foot by spewing something on this site that has no basis in fact. Like so many conservative positions….."

Finally the brilliant conclusive statement:

"ANY of the Democratic candidates would be a far better president than any of the numbskull GOP candidates, and a vast improvement over the greatest numbskull of them all, George W. Bush."

Wayne is typical of the confused rationale of the modern leftist. He compares someone he despises to a Nazi. No rationale of why that connection is appropropriate and Wayne will never reply when asked. In short, Wayne is confused and filled with impotent rage. He makes an accusation without backing it with any facts or a rational argument. He then goes on to chide others for proposing arguments without facts. He then proceeds to offer another baseless, factless charge and will then no doubt go on to accuse others of having no facts to back up their arguments. Wayne, you a are sad sick monkey.

I understand that Senator Obama is bound to make provocative statements in his quest for the presidency and the Clinton News Network is likewise bound to play them up as if he is wittiest politician to come down the pike since Bubba, but in truth Vice President, Secretary of Defense, Presidential Chief of Staff, Congressman Dick Cheney has done much more for this country than Senator Obama and the entire editorial staff of CNN has ever done. Get over it fellas…Dick Cheney won't be vice president for a whole lot longer and Barrack Hussein Obama won't ever become president…get over it. Rudy in '08 (or Fred or Mitt or John)…used to it…The embedded liberal elites at CNN, the NYT, CBS, NBC, PBS, et. ux. are gonna get to whine at their upper east side cocktail parties for another 4 years…Oh well, you still have Martha's Vineyard so long as Teddy's view of the Sound isn't spoiled by those silly old windmills.

go to hell obama

OK, politics aside, that was a pretty good comment. I don't like Obama's political stances (which doesn't mean I like Dick Cheney's), but I do like him as a person. If only he wouldn't do everything Dick Durbin tells him to he could be even greater.

Ron from Nebraska, "That has ruined my country." I hate to inform you but its not "your country". Its our country, every citizen of the United States. Just because you disagree with the present administration policies doesn't give you the right to claim this country as yours. You have a right to your opinion but that doesn't necessarily mean it is right.
Most of the posts on this site claim all the problems of the country are because of President Bush.

I can't wait until someone else is President. We will have no more problems. A Democrat will bring us Utopia.

Everyone will be rich, the rest of the world will love us, and there will be no more terrorist attacks, everyone will have health care, everyone will have a free college education, etc.
Utopia is a dream that only fools seek.
Someone will sooner or later have to pay the piper and guess who will be doing the paying. It will not be the politicians.

500 in the audience? Wow! You're off to a great career in comedy, since you don't speak like a president.

Calling the Vice President of this nation a "crazy uncle" is absurd.

When will the Democrats stop practicing character assassination, live in rality, and demonstrate they are capable of governing in a post 9/11 world?

I really like Obama, but I wish he
would refrain from allienated
Republicans gratuitously by making
such remarks about Cheney. It does
not serve anyone's best interest to
putdown Repulicans. Hilary Clinton?
Go for it, Obama, be aggresive, but
not abrasive, toward Rebublican whom
you need in order to WIN!!!!

The only reason Obama is a candidate is because he is black. If he were a white guy with same credentials saying the same thing, no one would know him.

'Black Sheep.' I get it! Black folks can still sew racial innuendo into their barbs, but Whites still can't. Double standards are so cozy for their beneficiaries.

O'Bama is a coddled punk, overschooled and undereducated. Thank GOD he's nothing but one percent of the Senate.

I keep waiting for substance. When with the youngster propose something bold and new, instead of his dreary, limp, scholastic Marxism?

The Obamas are hilarious. I really liked it when Barack's wife introduced him at the 2004 Dem Convention as "My baby daddy!"

Yeah. That's what we need in the White House.

"As for 'childish remarks': how about the Republican candidates purposely calling Obama "Osama", repeatedly?"

Actually it was Ted Kennedy that did that.

Barack Hussein Obama, will be King of New Arabia, and the blood of the infidel will make the sea red with the glory of Allah, peace be upon him . The Clintons and Bushes will swept the steps of the holy mosque in what is now called the white house. They will use the horse hairs of the last tail from which they will run before God's holy warriors ! All Hail Obama, King of New Arabia, bow before his mighty visage. It is written !

It may come as a surprise to many of you who have posted a comment here, but ALL POLITICIANS DO THIS MUD-SLINGING. Obama's not the first, nor will he be the last. We have a lot of this petty, high school name calling to hear before the elections take place. The bottom line is, they're all liars, all scum, and they'll all tell you whatever you want to hear to get your vote. They're all in a competition for your vote. The only way to truly discern what they stand for is to look at how they voted in Congress about ten years ago before they decided to run for president. Base your decisions on that, not what they say from now on.

all politicians are corrupt, if you think either party is substantially better than the other you are deceived

they do not view you as their equals, you are like sheep to them and they view each other as more equal than all of you – and they love that you have no choice but to pick one of them

Obama – Yo Mama !

At least the crazy Uncle Cheney is qualified to be President. Obama is not qualified to clean cheney's attic.

Well, just looking at their politics gives us a big clue as to who is a sheep and who is not.

Muslim mutton, anyone…

Ah, yes. Because the wise, experienced, minority presidential candidate says it, it must be true.

I thought Democrats liked being nice to people. I thought they didn't like that we had a divided country. Comments like this aren't necessary, but he still brings it up because Democrats don't care about the country being divided or the shrillness of politics like they claim. They want to be in power. You people who think you are electing saints by voting Democratic need to grow up.

Barak Not THAT Hussien Oblablablama ..the Son Of Selma is a straw man for the clinton woman

why did he place his LEFT HAND on the Bible at that swearing in ceremony

why is he the worlds most famous former muslim ?

“We will in fact, be greeted as liberators…I think it will go relatively quickly.. (in) weeks rather than months” – Dick Cheney 3/16/03
“We believe (Saddam) has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons” – Dick Cheney 3/16/03
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." – Dick Cheney 08/02
“I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." – Dick Cheney May 30, 2005:
“(Saddam Hussein) had an established relationship with al Qaeda, and his regime is no more." –Dick Cheney Nov. 7, 2003
——-
"He (Barack Obama) lacks his (Dick Cheney's) intelligence, know-how, judgment and experience". Obviously, we are all in agreement about that and thankful.

Crazy uncle, huh? Does that make Omama the black sheep of the family?

If anyone should be squirming its Cheney with BLACK sheep in family now

You know, I've been wondering about this Cheney guy for the past 7 years. No one has ever mentioned why ole cheney is so mean, paranoid and cantankerous. Here's the deal….This guy has had 3 heart attacks and heart disease for like 20+ years. He's got to be on some powerful cardiac meds and probably some kind of potent blood pressure medication. If you know anything about those kinds of medications, they can really affect your personality and brain function. I knew a guy like that who ended up on heart & blood pressures meds and it completely changed his personality. He was no more than 35 years old and overnight turned into a mean, irrational person. True story.
I'm thinkin crazy old Cheney is a product of those kinds of heavy medications. That and a naturally type A personality makes it that much worse. Seriously! My nurse friend thinks there is something to this.
So whaddya think??

Of course the Democrats can do no more than spew insults. And, re: all the Dem-Defenders on this forum, notice that the only responses are to compare Cheney to Hitler or his minions or whine about perceived "hypocrisy?"

The only sin recognized by Democrats and other secular progressives is hypocrisy, or at least perceived hypocrisy. Some day perhaps they will move away from, "I know you are but what am I?" and actually debate.

Wow! You'd think Barack would treat family a little better. Cheney has tolerance and love for his daughter, even though they may not see eye to eye, guess Cousin Barack can't quite do the same!

I appreciate Senator Obama's sense of humor. But some of the comments on this page are shocking. When so many people view the Vice President as an evil monster, comparing him to one of Hitler's cronies, etc. — then we have a big problem. And no, the problem is not with Dick Cheney.

Hussein Obama is a nobody doink, who couldn't hold Cheneys jock strap. In a few months we will have forgetten Hussein Obama even existed.

Everybody's got a black sheep in the family. Shouldn't that be Cheney's line?

As a true independent I can tell you that this just reinforces my opinion that he is an idiot. I still have yet to see a candidate that will make real changes to this country.
Top 3 democrats
Hillary – Riding the coattails of her husband. Does have anything of real value to offer.
Obama – Scares me to death when I hear him talk. Has no real grasp about what a real Politician is supposed to do in critical situations
Edwards – Scares me just as much as Obama if not more.
Top 3 Republicans
Rudy – you get the good with the bad. To much baggage.
Romney – Does what it takes to get elected. People at some point will see right thru it
McCain – Has a short temper. I don’t need someone with the Nuke with a short temper.
Now that I’ve pissed everybody off I can now go

I wonder what Cheney'ss family thinks about being related to this nut!?

C'mon people, we're all Americans here. Can't we just agree that if you don't like the Steelers, you're most likely gay.

Chaney haters you guys are funny.

Just another sorry example of how hateful and intolerant most democrats are when it comes to those with views they don't agree with. They preach we all need to be more tolerant but they certainly don't practice what they preach.

I am not a fan of politicians in general, either dem or rep, but I do believe cheney gets a bad rap. Listen, he came into power at an extremely volatile time in our nations history, greeted by an attack on 9 11 of monumental historical proportions. He got tough, he had to. What do people propose we do, crawl up in a fetal position and call for mommy? We are dealing with psychos in the middle east and they sadly only understand force. Anything less is looked at as a weakness.

Obama is a spineless wimp. Does he really think that the country is going to elect a man named Hussein as president? Mr. Cheney is perhaps one of the most brilliant minds we have in govt. right now. I respect his leadership, and his positions. I can only sit here and dreamily think of a White House headed by Mr. Cheney. I wish Tom from New Mexico would keep his comments to himself. Huckabee '08!

It's sad to see how psychologically unhinged and logically challenged the Left has become.

They are no longer the party of JFK.

They've now squandered all the political capital he accumulated, burying themselves in the serious debt of incredibility.

They've relinquished the crown, placing their grumpy ol' crazy aunt Hillary in charge.

DICK CHENEY is one of the finest public servants this country has ever had; wish that he were running for President. B. Hussein Obama is neither good enough nor smart enough to shine his shoes.

Shouldn't politicians be rated on the results they have accomplished, rather than throwing mud at opponents to make themselves higher in stature?

Sorry, Barack "Hussein", Dick Cheney is an adult, unlike you. You will NEVER be elected president thank goodness. Thanks, however, for weakening the witch Hillary. Go back to Chicago, home of affirmative action and corruption.

Wayne from Texas is the exact type of citizen who let Nazi's come to power, arguing against the the good people in government trying to warn everyone else-Barack Obama cannot shine Cheney's shoes, he lacks his intelligence, know-how, judgment and experience. Barack is just a Commie who is lucky enough to be borm partially Black-otherwise his voice would not even be heard.

Having heard Obama's impromptu remarks, the guy can't cobble two coherent sentences together, you know he doesn't write his own material.

well, in about 3 months Obama will only be a senator… shoved back into the attic known as congress.

The Regressive Right hates reality-based news reporting. They call it "liberal media bias." The core Republican base has wandered so far off into their neverland of denial, anything bringing them back is highly threatening.

Oh, such levity from the fellow the Washington Post referred to as the "Magic Negro."

One more time, it was Keith Ellison, a representatitive elected in Minnesota who used a Koran AND a bible to be sworn in. IT WAS NOT OBAMA, please try to gain just a little bit of intelligence and actually pay attention to facts and not just make up what ever reality fits your bias. On another note I do find it interesting that as the SAT scores have declined over the 27 years of the Reagan revolution, the intolerant religious right has gained influence and agencies like Fox news and right wing talk radio have grown into 'information' sources for a large number of very stupid people. And the result is a country divided and a totally incompetent administration ruining my country.

Obama keeps bringing up his "crazy uncle". Why? He cherishes the moment he first learned of his relationship to Mr. Cheney.

Wayne, Greenville TX:

Sorry about my two cents, but out of your approx. 20 posts on this blog you haven't said anything educational or useful – just same old attacks on other people's views. And we keep wondering why our country is so divided?

Obama is a Christian, it's pretty well known fact about him.

But I don't understand your post, are you saying that Muslims can't be American? Last time I checked America ran on the principles of Freedom, you are allowed to exercise whichever religion you choose.

[b]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[/b]

Posted By Jake, San Diego CA : November 3, 2007 6:08 pm

Yeah he might be or not be christian he only joined the church 3 months before he stated to run for president.
have ya heard of him going there,I haven't.

People here in Chicago this koran deal swearing in on it,peaved so many people off,we need a canidate who swears on the bible,and takes the Oath of Office, A United States Citzen.not someone who lived in idonesia,kenya.someone who has resided In The US there entire life.
they dont beleive him at all,he hasn't accompolished anything because of these missed votes and for the people of Chicago,I myself haven't followed him that much it's what people are saying around me here.

he is so right
Obama supporters- I'd love for you to tell me what you see in this guy. I've followed him from his career in the Illinois State Senate, and have concluded that he is perhaps the biggest sham in recent memory. HE HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING. He just says the biggest bunch of generic, political cliches and people want to believe it. Why do you believe anything this guy says about uniting the country? Based on his voting record, he's the most liberal, mainstream candidate. How can he unite the parties when he consistently proves unwilling to ever agree with one of them? Don't kid yourselves. Obama is a sham.

Posted By Dan, Saint Louis, MO : November 4, 2007 12:20 am

Kim, Dallas, TX: you mentioned the 2000 election. As a voter in infamous Palm Beach County in that election, I would like to pass on some info that most of the U.S. doesn't know. (yes, I voted correctly.)

I am sure that this will draw a roar from Republicans, but these are all historical FACTS not opinion. Most of the U.S. probably thinks of the key factor in Palm Beach County in the elections being "hanging chads", but there was something more significant. The local paper analyzed the ballots and found that an extraordinary number of them had to be discarded because they were double-punched for Buchanan and Gore. Obviously, many people realized their mistaken vote for Buchanan and thought they could correct it like an electronic machine by just punching the correction. If all the double-punched ballots for Bush & Buchanan and Gore & Buchanan were distributed in the same percentages as the counted votes, Gore would have won.

There is no doubt that the arrangement of the ballot had a big effect. Even Buchanan's camp said that there was no way that he should have ended up with as many votes here as he did. If fate had resulted in switching the location of Bush and Gore on the "butterfly" ballot, there is NO REASON to believe that Republicans would not have had the same problems.

It is worth noting that while the controversy about "chads" was going it, the county looked at how other states handled such ballots. Probably the most thorough explanation of similar circumstances was written in the laws of Texas and proudly bragged about by George Bush in the past. In Florida, his lawyers FOUGHT AGAINST using it here.

I know I will hear about Bush being re-elected. No president has lost re-election in a war. The 24%ers will talk about that, but they won't talk about the fact that in 2000, Al Gore BEAT Bush by over a half-million votes. The people who actually VOTED wanted Gore. Bush became president ONLY because of an intentionally biased electoral college (good or bad). If everyone's vote counted evenly in the United States, Bush would have lost.

To all those who believe the myth that Obama was sworn in with the Koran:

You are thinking of Keith Ellison, Congressman from Minnesota. Ellison was born Catholic and converted to Muslim. Obama is not and never has been Muslim

Sian, I ask you, what would happen to our children if every parent had to work three jobs just to make ends meet? You live in a sheltered world Sian. You are either extremely young, living off of a parent's salary, or very ignorant. I doubt you have children of your own.

I this isn't ignorance at it's best….

"You can't get over that Bush won, what we are winning the war, and the economy is booming. So get on the Darth Cheney bandwagon. You're really bright, aren't you."

Isn't it amazing how ignorant some people are and yet they post as if they know everything. I have to agree with the following statement…

If anyone thinks that the economy is booming, they need to look at the fact that by the time Bush is done, he may have created the SEVEN largest deficits in our history, surpassing all the records set by Ronald Reagan. The stock market has had big hits lately. We are now working more hours than ever before to keep up. The dollar keeps dropping compared to the Euro. Bush's buddies in the petroleum industry are making record profits and getting record subsidies. We are spending TWICE as much on gas as when Bush took office.

Bush has cut taxes on the Clintons, Kennedys, John Kerry, Donald Trump and Bill Gates so that the rest of us can make it up. Pushing all our debts onto future generations is IMMORALITY at its worst. Anyone bragging about our economy should consider what it is doing to our fellow and future Americans. Bush should be ashamed of himself. "You're really bright, aren't you."

My comments…Let's not forget that the only thing holding our economy together is foreign countries buying our businesses. China and the Middle East own much of America now. And you think our country is doing well financially. Our dollar is useless anymore. Most of the country is anticipating a recession at any time.

Also, I recently watched a newsclip about the second highest paid billionaire speaking about his tax rate compared to his secretary. He was paying 14% on his income compared to her paying 34%. If that isn't inequality, what is? Yes, overall he is paying more, but I don't think it's fair that someone making under $30,000 pays a higher tax rate than her boss who makes billions. Yes, this is totally immoral in my opinion too.

Thank you Richard is West Palm for making me believe that there are some people with brains that drop in on here. I was getting very discouraged with the mentality out there. I would also like to add that I wonder what war we are winning….and that Bush didn't win in 2000, he was appointed by the Supreme Court. What a huge mistake they made.

Who said the Republicans don't increase taxes? Anyone looked at the federal taxes charged to their purchased services: electric, water, home phone, cell phone, gasoline, fuel oil, cigarettes, alchohol, firearms, ammunition,satellite T.V, cable T.V.,….all added or increased while the Republicans were in control of Congress. Added up–they amount to the largest two decade increase in fedreal revenue in history. All this extra money–wonder if this is even counted in GBO projections of general revenue for the government?

Wayne (whack) from greenville TX. You lirals could use your own handbook to make the comparison between churchill and cheney. you say cheney new about 9-11 before it happened . your whacky side claims churchill new about pearl harbor in advance and used it to drag the usa into world war 2. sorry, to ruin your fun with the facts

Posted By mark wilkes barre pa : November 4, 2007 7:55 am

There must be a problem with the name "Mark" (or "Marc"). People with that name seem to have an uncontrollable urge to post nonsensical messages here. Oh well….

What facts are you taking about, Mark? The only fact I see here is that you look very foolish after this post.

I personally don't KNOW any "lirals", Mark. LIBERALS yes, but not any lirals. And I'm smart enough to know that only people with a limited command of the English language use the work "new" when they're supposed to use the word "knew". And not once, but twice in a single paragraph. Besides, only wacky people think there's an "h" in the word "wacky".

I may make an occasional typo in my posts – that's because I'm disabled after a serious car accident, and have severe nerve damage in both arms. But at least I know the right words to use.

And posts like yours do not make your side look very good, Mark. I think it's rather significant that as SAT scores have fallen in this country, conservatism has risen. Which reinforces my theory that most conservative positions are borne out of a combination of selfishness, ignorance, and paranoia.

Such down right hatefulness. People like you deserve to loose.

Posted By marc from indiana : November 3, 2007 12:50 pm

And people like you who can't even use the proper word (it's "lose" – not "loose") deserve to be on the losing side of every issue.

You're not making many points for your side with a post like that, Marc. I'm sure the schools in Indiana taught you better…..

"Dick Cheney only joked that he was Darth Vader because that's what Hillary called him a couple of weeks ago.

Posted By Bam, White Plains NY : November 3, 2007 6:11 pm"

Actually, Bum, the Dick referred to himself as Darth Vader during an interview on CNN a full year before Clinton spoke of the uncanny resemblance.

Of course, the analogy originated from the "You're either with us or you're against us" statement made by the Shrub and its close proximity to ObiWan's statement in the Star Wars movie.

The Dick as Darth parallel has been noted long, long before Clinton spoke of it.

The point remains that all the bluster here over who is disrespecting whom is really dumb.

Wayne (whack) from greenville TX. You lirals could use your own handbook to make the comparison between churchill and cheney. you say cheney new about 9-11 before it happened . your whacky side claims churchill new about pearl harbor in advance and used it to drag the usa into world war 2. sorry, to ruin your fun with the facts

I am a fan of Senator Obama, even though I am an Evangelical and a (very) nominal Republican. On the Cheney thing, very funny, but he needs to get better writers, this is already old. I am looking for the Senator to show that he has the "chops" of a Mitt Romney or Rudolph Guliani.

Didn't Senator Obama take his oath of office on the Q'ran and not the King James Bible. Should we trust this man? What are his true feelings regarding Islam? Is he Arab or American? Please don't tell me his an Arab-American. We've heard enough about ethic Americanism. We are all Americans and not African-American, Chinese-American, Polish-American, we're just Americans who speak English.

Posted By James, Atlantic Beach, NC : November 3, 2007 1:19 pm

Sounds like Bush's fear mongering is working well.

Here are some Biblical quotes for hypocritical Republicans who don't believe or practice what the Bible says.

– Matthew 7:12 "Treat others as you want them to treat you. This is what the Law and the Prophets are all about.”

– Matthew 19:24 "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”

– I Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all evil”

– Matthew 25:40 “The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'

– Exodus 31:15 “Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death”

Unfortunately, many Republicans believe the Bible is just for other people. That is why we have so many people like Mark Foley, Larry Craig, David Vitters, Richard Curtis, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Henry Hyde, etc. "Only the Republicans can claim the moral high ground."

Most of the Republicans are amoral. They are using the Religious Right to get votes. They DO NOT believe anything they say when it comes to religion. They just say what the Religious Right wants to hear. The Republican Party is like Judas. They only care about themselves and if they have to lie and pander to Religious Conservatives to keep their job they will.

It has only been fairly recent that the Republican Party has decided to use religion as a weapon to gain power. The Religious Right is not much different than the Radical Muslim Clerics who use their religion to control the masses through their elected leaders. That should be more than enough to scare the bejesus out of any sane American.

Anyone that thinks otherwise is naive and an example of why this country is going to "Hell in a Hand-basket" with the Republican Party's hand firmly clasped to the handle.

Sian seems to display a profound inability to engage with reality. If good public policy was entirely about meeting the needs of people engaged in ideal behavior, there would indeed be little need for government. However, out here in the real world, not everyone engages in ideal behavior. The idea that social welfare does more harm than good is predicated on an unhealthy obsession with fraud and a willful blindness to real need. To here Sian speak of it, a man who just broke his neck in a car accident is a despicable layabout because he isn't on the phone lining up jobs that will cover his medical expenses as he lives the rest of his life with no motor control over his own limbs!

Then we have this notion that George W. Bush's irresponsible spending is somehow a response to international terrorism. More Americans have died fighting in a ruined nation that was formerly free of Al Qaeada operatives than were actually killed in the 9/11 attacks. Cars kill more American citizens in a typical month than were lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center. This ridiculous spending is a function of a sick obsession with big ticket defense items that have no relevance in a world where no other nation is foolish enough to run the arms race with us. Counterterrorism policy may have a price tag associated with it, but the spending authorized by this administration is only trivially linked to any legitimate response to actual terrorist activities.

Then there is this idiocy about "crimes against nature." Bush's stem cell policy does not prevent a single embryo from being tossed out as medical waste. It only prevents this medical waste from being preserved and put to a genuinely useful purpose. This is good how? As far as abortion policy itself goes, a prohibition might make hateful Christians who have lost their way feel good, but examples in Africa and Eastern Europe both reveal that a prohibition does not actually reduce the rate of abortions. Sensible maternity laws, better availability of health care, subsidized day care, fact-based sex education cirricula — these are measures that could actually reduce the number of abortions that take place in this nation from year to year. However, to embrace policies like those, one must act and vote out of love rather than hate. Something tells me for Sian that would be a novel experience.

If anyone thinks that the economy is booming, they need to look at the fact that by the time Bush is done, he may have created the SEVEN largest deficits in our history, surpassing all the records set by Ronald Reagan. The stock market has had big hits lately. We are now working more hours than ever before to keep up. The dollar keeps dropping compared to the Euro. Bush's buddies in the petroleum industry are making record profits and getting record subsidies. We are spending TWICE as much on gas as when Bush took office.

Bush has cut taxes on the Clintons, Kennedys, John Kerry, Donald Trump and Bill Gates so that the rest of us can make it up. Pushing all our debts onto future generations is IMMORALITY at its worst. Anyone bragging about our economy should consider what it is doing to our fellow and future Americans. Bush should be ashamed of himself. "You're really bright, aren't you."

Posted By Richard, West Palm Beach, FL : November 3, 2007 10:52 pm

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Tsk tsk. The writer forgets that Bush is doing what is fair.

1. Why should those who work hard have to provide welfare to those who are poor? If you work 130 hours a week, shouldn't you be able to keep more of your money instead of paying more taxes? If you aren't working at least two jobs, you need to stop being lazy. There are plenty of jobs at the local fast food joints…so besides your normal office job, you can get a supplemental job for the evening, and can get another job for the weekends…I don't see the point of people complaining of lack of work when there are help wanted signs everywhere.

2. Of course there is a deficit. We are at war with terrorism. The previous administration did absolutely nothing. This unfortunately cost innocent American lives on our soil. Would you rather have terrorists slaughtering innocent lives, or fight them on their soil (sure you spend, but every dollar is well spent)?

3. The Republican party is not immoral. They more closely follow the biblical teachings of the bible. They support an amendment to the constitution that would prevent the legal recognition of miscreants who want to do crimes against nature. They oppose the slaughter of innocent fetuses. They also have the support of the leading Christian groups. Think…wouldn't you want a candidate who is moral? Only the Republicans can claim the moral high ground.

Therefore, you see, the choice is obvious. The govenment should be exclusively republican.

Obama supporters- I'd love for you to tell me what you see in this guy. I've followed him from his career in the Illinois State Senate, and have concluded that he is perhaps the biggest sham in recent memory. HE HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING. He just says the biggest bunch of generic, political cliches and people want to believe it. Why do you believe anything this guy says about uniting the country? Based on his voting record, he's the most liberal, mainstream candidate. How can he unite the parties when he consistently proves unwilling to ever agree with one of them? Don't kid yourselves. Obama is a sham.

I am not worried about Obama taking an oath on the Koran… I'm much more concerned with the Bush family ties with the Saudi royals and the Bin Ladens.

As for 'childish remarks': how about the Republican candidates purposely calling Obama "Osama", repeatedly?

And there isn't enough room on this page to list everytime Bush as put his foot in his mouth.

Like it has been said many times before…

It takes Democrats to come in to act like adults and clean up the messes the Republicans leave.

Republicans really are like children. They whine and call everyone names when they don't get their way ALL of the time. They don't want to pay for anything (pay taxes) but they want to buy everything they see (spend, spend, spend).

A good analogy is a 19 year old college student who gets a dozen credit cards and goes on a spending spree not caring who is going to end up having to pay when they default on all the loans. That basically sums up the Republican party lately.

That's why we are one of the largest debtor nations around now with countries like China holding most of the paper. The Republicans under George Bush are to blame for that mess.

"You can't get over that Bush won, what we are winning the war, and the economy is booming. So get on the Darth Cheney bandwagon. You're really bright, aren't you."
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If anyone thinks that the economy is booming, they need to look at the fact that by the time Bush is done, he may have created the SEVEN largest deficits in our history, surpassing all the records set by Ronald Reagan. The stock market has had big hits lately. We are now working more hours than ever before to keep up. The dollar keeps dropping compared to the Euro. Bush's buddies in the petroleum industry are making record profits and getting record subsidies. We are spending TWICE as much on gas as when Bush took office.

Bush has cut taxes on the Clintons, Kennedys, John Kerry, Donald Trump and Bill Gates so that the rest of us can make it up. Pushing all our debts onto future generations is IMMORALITY at its worst. Anyone bragging about our economy should consider what it is doing to our fellow and future Americans. Bush should be ashamed of himself. "You're really bright, aren't you."

Obama, in your case , the apple has not fallen very far from the tree.

You are a walking deception…

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.

Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 12:13 pm

…

Wayne in Texas: Blah blah blah … I get butthurt whenever a right-wing talk show host puts down my presidential candidate … blah blah blah

Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 3:17 pm

Henry, you're my favorite. I love that it only took you three hours to post two incompatible statements. God bless you!

Thomas Anderson…….yes and the Easter Bunny is going to bring A BIG basket of goodies too!

Comparing Dick Cheney to a great statesman like Winston Churchill is a supreme insult to Churchill's memory. A better comparison would probably be between Cheney and one of the men in Hitler's inner circle, such as Adolf Eichman.

Eichmann was not at all in Hitler's inner circle…….actually Cheney would be Hitler and Bush would be Hermann Goering . Goebbels would be played by Carl Rove………..and the Jews , Catholics and Gypsies would be all be played by poor and middle class Americans .

3 words that will get you shot in any state, red or blue.

Cheney/Obama 2008.

Tom, your comments are insane. There is not ONE thing Cheney has done that is evil. You can't get over that Bush won, what we are winning the war, and the economy is booming. So get on the Darth Cheney bandwagon. You're really bright, aren't you.

Wow Barack, keeping someone in the attic is no way to treat the elderly or the mentally ill. Not very nice.

That Was Very Immature of Obama To Say That About His family Member. Like My Grandma Said The Apple Doesnt Fall Far From The Tree..Maybe He Should Share That Attic He Is Trying To Put His Cousin In..Not Presidential material At All. And He Doesnt Even Sing The National Athem. Is He A Undercover muslim? Trying To Pull The Wool Over America Eyes. He Doesnt Have A Problem Sitting Down With The President Of Iran

Anyone who supports or does not recognize the damage done by Uncle Dick should be immediately expunged from any voting register, it is just that kind of ignorance that has ruined my country.

Mauve,

Dick Cheney only joked that he was Darth Vader because that's what Hillary called him a couple of weeks ago.

Didn't Senator Obama take his oath of office on the Q'ran and not the King James Bible. Should we trust this man? What are his true feelings regarding Islam? Is he Arab or American? Please don't tell me his an Arab-American. We've heard enough about ethic Americanism. We are all Americans and not African-American, Chinese-American, Polish-American, we're just Americans who speak English.
Posted By James, Atlantic Beach, NC : November 3, 2007 1:19 pm

Obama is a Christian, it's pretty well known fact about him.

But I don't understand your post, are you saying that Muslims can't be American? Last time I checked America ran on the principles of Freedom, you are allowed to exercise whichever religion you choose.

[b]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[/b]

Wow. This is all dumb…and circular.

Cheney jokes this week that he's Darth Vadar. Then Obama jokes that Cheney's like a crazy uncle in the attic.

Now all these folks here jump up and down and call Obama disrespectful of the Dick Cheney, who has just spoken so disrespecfully of himself.

No one is looking good in the smarts or stature departments on this one.

A crazy uncle in the attic only means ya get crap on your head thus you try to dump the same crap on the heads of the others who are as stupid as you are for allowing crap to happen in the first place. I do not like cheney I do not like obama I have never liked or cared about eighter of them or any thing that the both have said, to me it has always been bull coming from the rear of a jack–s who speaks in a man's voice thus curse that thing.

I'll take "crazy uncle" Cheney over FDR's "uncle Joe" Stalin anytime.

Such class, what a low life, Obama, if you can't fight without going to the lowest level, get off the stage!
You would not make a pimple on Dick Cheney's behind, as far as intelligence, and having the grace of good manners, something you are devoid of.

Unfortunately, Obama's crazy uncle was unleashed on the American people along with the black sheep of the family.

Obama, how about your Islamic uncles ? How many of them are crazy and doing Jihad ?

I think CNN used that humor part one which they edited and now this is part two bringing the same thing in different version. Cnn, if you are not campaigning for hillary show me some fair reporting for all the candidates!!! This is sickening at best after America had gone the turmoil in the last 8years and I don't think anyone cares

I find his statements about the mentally ill offensive and demeaning. Will this be the norm in his stance towards the mentally ill? That they should be locked up in the attic tucked away from sight? This man is running for president making lame jokes like this! My god, where's the tolerance? Absolute bigoted and ignorant statement.

If this had been a conservative who said this you people would have been all over him as a bigot.

Wayne in Texas: Blah blah blah … I get butthurt whenever a right-wing talk show host puts down my presidential candidate … blah blah blah

What fun! I'm almost able to forget that we should be discussing the candidates' policies. Maybe for an attempt at real reporting, CNN could ask Obama about this.

How impressive that a presidential candidate makes such a juvenile statement.
I can only imagine the problems for our country if he were elected president and chose to blurt out another gem such as this one.
This man wants to be considered presidential material? GROW UP!

Posted By Deb Daly, Georgetown, DE : November 3, 2007 12:57 pm

Sort of like George Bush searching for weapons of mass destruction at a political diner. How funny was that to the parents of dead soldiers.
MAYBE YOU NEED TO GROW UP!

I think Obama actualy missed on this one. Cheney isn't crazy. He knows exactly what he's doing. Lying, cheating , conniving, manipulating the American people for his self serving interests. It's all really well designed and those who voted his ticket bought into it. 7 years and I've been asking those people what we have gained from this administration. NO good answers yet. But I haven't asked the cronies he's set up to make money at the taxpayers expense.

This proves that Obama and other liberals are anti-family; to insult a family member like that. Whatever happened to respect your elders.

Cheney should pull Obama over his knees and beat his hiney with an old hickory switch

God help the good old USA if any of the democrats get into office as president.

Hey, if Satan can get George Bush and Dick Cheney elected TWICE then I think we should be happy God is helping a Democrat get elected this time.

Wow, I don't like, nor do I support Obama, but I thought that he was the type of man that was above this type of retarded, unsubstantiated attack.

Actually Cheney is not in any attic. He's behind the Wizard's curtain pulling Boy W's imperialist puppet strings. And accruing big bucks for Halliburton's war business.

hey everyone, guess what? Politicians use the same lines all the time!

Very poor manners of a presidential candidate to engage in name-calling. Is this a mark of his lack of maturity?

That is a childish and disrespectful thing to say about our current Vice President from a Presidential candidate, regardless of relation or party.

He forgot to mention his other crazy uncle, Uncle Idi Amin.

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.
Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 12:13 pm

Pot, meet kettle…

Didn't Senator Obama take his oath of office on the Q'ran and not the King James Bible. Should we trust this man? What are his true feelings regarding Islam? Is he Arab or American? Please don't tell me his an Arab-American. We've heard enough about ethic Americanism. We are all Americans and not African-American, Chinese-American, Polish-American, we're just Americans who speak English.

How impressive that a presidential candidate makes such a juvenile statement.
I can only imagine the problems for our country if he were elected president and chose to blurt out another gem such as this one.
This man wants to be considered presidential material? GROW UP!

Leave it to a Republican to include "God" and anything governmental. Come on now Bill, are you really that naive to think that "our" religious affiliation to "God" has had nothing to do with this war?

I think CNN used that humor part one which they edited and now this is part two bringing the same thing in different version. Cnn, if you are not campaigning for hillary show me some fair reporting for all the candidates!!! This is sickening at best after America had gone the turmoil in the last 8years and I don't think anyone cares….

God help the good old USA if any of the democrats get into office as president.

Posted By Bill Glenn Arbor Mi : November 3, 2007 12:20 pm

ANY of the Democratic candidates would be a far better president than any of the numbskull GOP candidates, and a vast improvement over the greatest numbskull of them all, George W. Bush.

Comparing Dick Cheney to a great statesman like Winston Churchill is a supreme insult to Churchill's memory. A better comparison would probably be between Cheney and one of the men in Hitler's inner circle, such as Adolf Eichman.

Posted By Wayne, Greenville TX : November 3, 2007 11:46 am
Such down right hatefulness. People like you deserve to loose.

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.

Posted By Henry, Phoenix AZ : November 3, 2007 12:13 pm

Petty insults are the stock-in-trade for such right-wing loonies as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, and all the others. And Ann Colter has made a career out of petty insults.

Once again, a right-winger has literally shot himself in the foot by spewing something on this site that has no basis in fact. Like so many conservative positions…..

CNN tees up another one for the Loony Left

There is no newsworthy content in this article whatsoever, but it does serve as a meeting place for Republican Haters to demonstrate their hatred. If you're here to increase your political IQ, save yourself and leave now!

Cheney may be a distant cousin, but I'll bet Neville Chamberlain is Obama's great grandfather.

God help the good old USA if any of the democrats get into office as president.

There new speculation today that Governor Rounds of South Dakota might jump in the Senate race, which would be terrible news for Senate Democrats by making SD competitive. Link.

who keeps their 'crazy' relatives "in the attic" anyway. what a ridiculous thing to say.

Jo-jo,
it is CNN recycling this story over and over, just like the photo of the "happy couple" Bill & Hill. This is really just a gossip column, for more relevance you need to go to other sources.

Leave it to the democrats to do nothing but put forth petty insults.

wow ticker, He said this long time ago when he was making a joke. Obamas recent debate that he scored highly is making the media report negative stuff about him and they are playing mind game by revisiting this that doesn't matter. We know he is not related to cheney. Fortunately Obama is careful enough and he can stand your mud slinging!!

Too bad crazy uncle Dick isn't in jail.

I'll bet his Mother is real proud of that line.. And it does kind of fit in with what Biden was saying about his political intellect, Jimmy the Greek must feel vindicated..

South Carolina wasn't the first place Obama made this joke – he said it in Durham, North Carolina Nov. 1.

I like obama's humor. I really like this line about crazy uncle.
But, maybe instead of the attic we can revise that to Gitmo.

Dick Cheney is the crazy uncle in the attic like Winston Churchill was the lonely voice in the wilderness.

Posted By pbj, San Ramon, CA : November 3, 2007 11:25 am

Comparing Dick Cheney to a great statesman like Winston Churchill is a supreme insult to Churchill's memory. A better comparison would probably be between Cheney and one of the men in Hitler's inner circle, such as Adolf Eichman.

A crowd of 500? Way to pack'um in, Barack.

Hmmm This line bears a striking resemblance to one from
this article in the Economist back on September 1st. (See the end of the first paragraph.)

Hey Obama: Cheney's not an "Obama Boy" either.

I'll bet Obama has this picture, with Cheney cut out, hang in his living..

Dick Cheney is the crazy uncle in the attic like Winston Churchill was the lonely voice in the wilderness.

"Crazy uncle"–hilarious!
"Obama… I am your cousin…"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"

I like Barack, but he has used that joke (or a version of it) WAYYY too many times now. He needs to get some new writers…and not the ones who are going on strike!

Touche', Senator Obama, touche'. Not only is he the crazy uncle in the attic, Cheney is downright diabolical. An evil man hell-bent on war though he refused to serve himself.
The best defining word for this cretin is despicable.