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Clinton Tactic 101 – when polls slip, blame someone for anything. Take the heat from yourself, pick on a person who is already hated to show the people you are still with them.

is anyone falling for this anymore?

Dear God woman, is menopause shrinking your brain? Bush is not, I repeat, Bush is not running for President. Your opponents are waiting to debate you. What's this about China having a "wish list" for you to change America?

What a ridiculous statement. I really don't care for Bush and what this administration has done to our country. However, Clinton is just as responsible by voting to give Bush power to go to war with Iraq...without even reading the paperwork to prepare for such a HUGE decision. I don't believe that someone who cannot think for themself, won't take the time to read something that important, and takes the pressure given to vote a certain way is someone I want as president. I am Democratic, but I don't care for her policies or her personality at all. I don't think we will see any changes at all in our government if she is voted into office. Worse yet, if she is voted as the Democratic forerunner we can expect another Republican in office. All of those candidates are spouting off about bombing Iran. It's time to wake up everyone. Let's do what's right for our country.

Bush did make a mistake with his focus on terrorism. I will NEVER believe that Iraq was anything more than an oil profit for corporate interests; specifically Haliburton. It's a shame that our country's resources so needed for the REAL mission were diverted to Iraq. Pakistan has always been a hot bed associated with terrorism, but we need them for the pipeline project with Afghanistan. Is this really a war for terrorism? Or is it a war for control of the world's natural resources. I suggest reading PNAC and drawing your own conclusion.

Hillary will make no positive changes that our country desperately needs. She is flakey when it comes to answering questions, never having a straight answer. I am really tired of this type of politician.

Obama for Change!!

As much as I loath the current administration, I find Clinton's comments despicable.

TransparentTrollop

Did you attend University? Do you know how foolish you look by citing Wikipedia? Respectable people won't respect you if you cite Wikipedia.

"Doesn't she realize that she is not running against Bush ?"
Posted By Jeff, San Diego, Ca. : November 5, 2007 3:45 pm

Everyone knows that! But, all the republican hopefuls are following Bush's policy 100% which is a total failure on all the fronts. And since she never supported Bush, she has to critisize his failure the same way all the republicans bash Hillary and Bill for everything including 9/11.

PROOF of soundbite reliance once again displayed here on the Ticker. How many "Hillary will blame anything on Bush" comments have you seen here so far?

Last week a bunch of dimwits attacked my home city of San Francisco instead of actually addressing my arguments...the day after Bill O'Reiley foamed and raged over our beautiful city.
Figures, huh?

Keep reading those talking points, folks. They don't call you "ditto heads" for nothin'!

...oh wait a minute...Fat Al already did!!

Yes Hill, let's also blame Bush for the weather...

Daniel from Minneapolis said, TransparentTrollup- Did you really just slam the investigative reporting of CNN, then cite Wikipedia?

You'd like to think CNN would be more reliable than Wikipedia, wouldn't you?

But if you actually read the Wiki article....

Granted, the focus of CNN's article wasn't Pakistani history, it was Clinton's comments. But if 10 minutes of net research shows how little Clinton understands Pakistani politics, she has a poor understanding indeed. Maybe CNN should do a brief story surveying recent Pakistani history, to educate its readers.

Of course, I couldn't help but notice CNN's top story at the moment is Bush’s comments regarding Pakistan. They’re as ignorant as Clinton’s. In fact, they say the same thing, which is another reason I won’t vote for Clinton—her foreign policy is too much like Bush’s.

All this underscores the importance of being an informed American. You're defenseless otherwise. So again I say, thank you TransparentTrollup.

"Did you really just slam the investigative reporting of CNN, then cite Wikipedia?"

Yes I did. Cheap trick huh..., but I still did a better job than CNN's reporters who continuely give Hillary free passes..

Hilary's campaign advisor is a freaking genious.

Bad Bush, blah blah, health Care!, blame bush, blah blah, free stuff!, blah blah, ihatebush, blah blah, imawoman, blah blah.

Great Politician =/= good president.

"I would hope he would move to restore constitutional govt as soon as possible." -Hillary

YEEEEEHAAWWWW, lock and load boys,
we've just be given the green light by the "anti-war" left..

Get us back on track, Hillary!

The only problem Bush has is putting up with people like Clinton who are trying to keep him from doing his job. Let Bush and Mussarraf do their jobs and the will take care of the terroist
situation. Do you want them back here again blowing up building like the twin Towers again.

Does she ever get tired of blaming everything on Bush?

Next thing you know the headlines will blare "Pangeaea breaks apart! Clinton says it is Bush's failed policies!!"

You know, as much as I would like the American people to stop thinking in Fox News-supplied soundbytes and knee-jerk anti-Hillary hatred, part of me thinks it will be so much sweeter seeing her sworn into office knowing that the increasingly irrelevant Republican base will be foaming at the mouth. Welcome to the past 8 years for the rest of us!

The Bush policiy has been you can do any thing you want if you are fighting terrorist. The Bush policy has been any nation supporting his war on terrorist can do anything they want.

The basic cause of unrest in Pakistan falls to religious extremists and the governments inabilty to deal with them.

We may have to accept a non-democratic Pakistan for time being. You want bin Laden or you want the Islamic State of Pakistan, I think Musharraf is a little more concerned with a weak hamstrung central government moving to the right than he is a democratic society right now.

Doesn't she realize that she is not running against Bush ?

TransparentTrollup-

Did you really just slam the investigative reporting of CNN, then cite Wikipedia? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Hillary makes a good point here. We attacked a country who had nothing to do with 9/11 and ignored the people who did. That's a problem

People Complain when we try to export Democracy to the Middle East.

Now they complain when there isn't a Democracy.

Get a story and Stick to it!

As always, it's Bush's fault... Ignore facts, ignore history, ignore what happened (or didn't happen) during 8 years of the Clinton presidency... It's always Bush's fault.

She needs to realize Bush isn't running!!

I'm pretty rabidly anti-Republican, but (while I recognize that it was stated for political purposes) I think the RNC's comments were in fact accurate. I also appreciate TransparentTrollop and others for calling our attention to Pakistan's history. And lastly, to those who pointed out that to the extent that Pakistan's problems are the fault of the United States, Senator Clinton shares the blame for voting to divert the war effort from the Afghan/Pakistan region to Iraq–point well taken. If you enabled Bush, you share the blame.

Hilliary will invoke the 'Bush' as many times as she can from here until the '08 elections. She has been advised by Bill and her other 'handlers' that this is the key button to push for her base. She has been advised to push this button incessantly for two reasons. 1) To capitalize on and solidify 'the anti-Bush vote at all costs' and 2) To divert attention from her own 'fuzzy thinking' and fence sitting stance on any thorny issue of the day and her lack of 'solid' ideas on how to resolve them. This is her script and she is sticking to it. Hopefully, the folks will see through it.

hey ED
Arkasas would not elect her to the senate she had to move to the liberal state of NY to become a us senator. Not sure they will take her back in Arkasas.

New York Times:
"WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 — The Bush administration signaled Sunday that it would probably keep billions of dollars flowing to Pakistan’s military, despite the detention of human rights advocates and leaders of the political opposition by Gen. Pervez Musharraf, the country’s president."

Don't you think that Hillary is correct to criticize Bush's policy toward Pakistan? Isn't it true that this administration has supported Musharraf? with your money!

The more the RNC runs smear attacks against Hillary, the more I am determined to vote for her.
Posted By Moe, NY : November 5, 2007 1:11 pm

That's what they want you to do.

Larry and Curly called, they want their stooge back.

This woman is delusional...blame, blame, blame, just shut up already!

Unfortunately for Hillary, George Bush is not eligible for reelection and therefore not running in the next election. Hillary needs to stop running against Bush and start running against the other Presidential hopefuls.

Hillary Clinton is a liar and a cheat.

We deserve better.

I think Musharref just made bush really jealous. If bush could do that he would. He's been laying the groundwork for years. Lock up the press,lock up the lawyers,shred the constitution,see any similarities?

Hillary, you have no credibility at all to speak on any issue. Go back to Arkansas.

The RNC...oh yes, they certainly have credibility...LOL! I wouldn't believe one thing the RNC puts out there...actually I would believe the opposite of what they are trying to sell. Corruption and lies are all the American people have gotten from the Republicans and the RNC. The more the RNC runs smear attacks against Hillary, the more I am determined to vote for her.

According to the newest Washington Post/ABC Poll:

Hillary: Favorable (50%), Unfavorable (46%)

Obama: Favorable (51%), Unfavorable (36%)

Edwards: Favorable (49%), Unfavorable (35%)

Come on fellow Democrats, open your eyes. Not only is Hillary not electable in the general election, she does not even espouse the general vision of the Democratic Party. You want true progressive change, vote

Edwards/Obama '08

Thank goodness we have Robert, Cleveland, OH in this blog to keep up the intellectual standards. I don't know what we would do without him.

WAIT A MINUTE HERE! Wasn't it Bill's terms in office (for which she cites her own "EXPERIENCE") that failed to do anything to stop the growth of Al Qaedo training camps in Afghanistan? And couldn't that FAILURE just possibly be the root much of the problems that followed.

Please Hillary, JUST SHUT UP!!!!!

I guess if all weekend long people were talking about how I dodged debate questions and how I had to try to "clarify" my position and only made things worse....

I might call President Bush the devil on Monday to get all the attention off me too!

Gee Hillary – up to this point you haven't discussed Pakistan or our relationship with Musharraf. But because they are now having political unrest – you see it as an opportunity to blame Bush??

LOL – I think the only person left in our country thinking you run a "clean" campaign in Mondale – and by the looks of him – he's been living off a morphine drip.

I do love how you're driving your campaign down Howard Dean blvd.

It would be easier to name the things the Hillidiots didn't try to blame Bush for....I heard they DIDN'T blame him for the short battery life in laptops.....theres something....are they really that dumb??

In a small way, Hillary is also responsible for the problems in Pakistan. She voted for the war.

Sen. Hillary Clinton called the current U.S. policy toward Pakistan "fundamentally incoherent"

Are you sure she wasn't commenting on her answers given in last Tuesday's debate?

She's one to talk. I guess totally negative attacks (which could send signals around the world, something she once decried in an earlier debate that candidates should not do) are OK as long as they aren't directoed toward her or other Dems?

At least her hubby was somewhat consistent in his foreign policy.

1st WTC attack – do nothing
Embassies in Africa – do nothing
USS Cole – do nothing
Sudanese offer up Bin Laden – do nothing
Launch heat seeker in the Oval Office – launch heat seeker toward Iraqi Apirin factory

Now the Hillegal Alien balmes everything on Bush while she stands by as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Keep that Kool Aid comin'

good for musharraf, arrest those rotten lawyers. that whole region is about to explode and our idiots in washington can only whine about democracy. maybe if we had any diplomacy with other countries they might listen. george w bush is an idiot who can only threaten force or he's lost. condoleezza rice is nothing more than inspiration for don imus. all the rest of the diplomats in this administration are worried they might have to serve in iraq. i heard all their whining the other night about their safety. now it's a free for all and the bush administration will look stupid as usual.

Does anyone still think Obama's comments toward Musharraf were "naive?"
Again, it comes to having judgment and vision when it matters. Musharraf is a military dictator. While no one is saying that the U.S. should invade Pakistan, I think Obama was smart to criticize the general before it became fashionable in Washington.

Brian Walton why are your children not in Iraq since you love the policy so much. Her credibility???? Your own wife does not find you credible.

Let the whole world know....

Hillary Clinton = Bush Basher Extraordinair

AP News Story: Hillary has flatulence, blames Bush.

Now you see Bush is starting the beginning of WW111. I knew he would do this because no one would try to impeach him. He has a whole year left to finish us all off. I can't stand that drunken tyrant!

Hillary Clinton is right on point as usual. The events happening in Pakistan are a direst result of Bush's failure to complete the war against Osama and his militants in Afghanistan before starting his unnecessary war with Iraq. The incompetency of Bush's failed policies and strategies will play out in the middle east for years to come. Sadly though this administration has no moral high grounds from which they can criticize President Musharraf.

Actually Clinton did express outrage when Musharaaf had his coup. Also, unlike Bush, he didn't provide the dictator regime with financial support.

The reason we have no choice but to tolerate Musharaaf is because since we have moved all our troops into Iraq, and all our resources are there, we rely heavily on Pakistan to keep Bin Laden and the Taliban in check. So we can't bite the hand that feeds us.

The irony here is in order to be able to place our troops in Iraq and depose one dicator (Sadaam) who has no WMD, we have had to support another dicator Musharaaf, who actually does have nuclear weapons.

Speaking of democracy – don't you think that abilty for people to vote for the wn government is a Western achievement, fought for, died for. You can't bring it to other countries and expect western institutions to work on the completely different foundation. Look at Lebanon (they'd give majority to Hisballah if not fr sectarian division), Iraq, Palestina. And look at Kuwit or Bahrein – no democracy, but people happy. Europinian and US leaders should understand – ther priority should be demcracy and proliferation of their own countriesm that's why they were elected, not spreading "democracy" everywhere else. if anything, they should intervene to stop atrocitiesin places such as Sudan and some other third world countries. Look what happent to Iraq after Saddam fall! More people died since than duing all his years. Musharaff and militayr are the only forces keeping Pakistan to become another Iraq or islamic republic such as Iran – but with nuclear power. Bhutto will not hold to power alone. You want to let free election to make it happen? I say – no, hell with elections their, support leaders which can be our allies t make US safer – this is what president of US is hired by US people to do.

Why we chose to be allies with this man is something I'll never know. I hear others say Musharraf is the lesser of two evils but he is a dictator. What he is doing now is a weak attempt to secure his ill begotten presidency. Clinton needs to assume some of the blame since she supported Bush's policies.

If incoherency is the cause of Pakastani instability, could Mrs. Clinton's (and other Democrat party politician's) inconsistent campaign pledges, public statements and votes concerning Iraq war funding and troop withdrawal contribute to instability in Iraq?

I actually reading these blogs less and less. Too many idiotic comments and predictions (see, or better yet, do not see postings by summus, realist, buyso and others) – no comprehensive arguments, positions, critique, just stupid postures rivaling current administration's, repeating old slogans heard somewhere or copying two-page articles from other websites. Too bad, but I personally will spend my time reading actual news on CNN.com, not the blogs.

So we are supposed to tell a Sovergn nation how to run their country?

Why is that when she is under attack, she doesn't respond to the attack, she attacks something else?

Also, Clinton is very competitive in the new general election poll from Kentucky, indicating how much Republicans are struggling. Link.

Here's something of which the "smartest woman in the world" needs to be reminded:

George Bush is not on the ballot.

Send Mondale to Pakistan. He can solve the issues.

I can't remember Bill Clinton being too outraged when Pakistan had their coup on his watch. I'm not a Bush fan at all, but I do adore liberty and am kind of fond of democracy. I don't find selective political pandering to be a trait our next president should embrace. To some extent, they've all been doing that since at least 1953.

"I would hope he would move to restore constitutional govt as soon as possible. "

Sounds to me like she just gave Bush MORE authority to invade another country. What is Hillry thinking!!??

i thought she wasn't running a 'negative' campaign ...

Actually Hillary shares blame too for supporting Bush on diverting resources from the Afghanistan/Pakistan to Iraq, a place that had nothing to do with 9/11. As a prominent democrats embracing Bush's foreign policy priorities, she has enabled the problems we are now having

Geeesh, What happened to investigative reporting CNN?? Look it up people!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

=>Military tensions in the Kargil conflict with India were followed by a Pakistani military coup d'état in 1999 in which General Pervez Musharraf assumed executive powers. Shortly after, Musharraf named himself President after the forced resignation of Rafiq Tarar.

Sorry Hillary, the facts speak for themselves. Are you saying Bush should invade Pakistan too? Or is this just more blame Bush double talk?? Maybe a little history revision in a feeble attempt to resurrect some dignity to the last Clinton administration???
You just never know with this women...

Long story short Bin Laden attacks America and democracy

Bush lets Bin Laden get away to keep America fearful

America makes agreement with Mushareff (military dictator)that doesn't believe in democracy

Bush attacks Iraq instead of Pakistin assuming Americans are too dumb to know the difference- they 're all brown Arabs- right?

Military dictator gets overthrown by Bin Laden who creates Islamic 'democracy'

Bin Laden has nuke

George Bush is declared national treasure and hero