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With quotes like this, Clinton demonstrates her ignorance:

"Henry Ford would be dumbfounded until he opened the hood. Because he would recognize the internal combustion engine underneath. It is the same basic concept that he put in to the Model T almost a century ago. In fact, that Model T got better gas mileage than your typical SUV does today," said Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner. "We can't continue this. It's time for a change."

I'm appalled at the garbage that spews form this woman't mouth...and people actuslly support this woman. To ignore the technical progress that has been made on the internal combustion engine without any technical comprehension on his part for a sound bite is shallow. And shallow people eat this stuff up.

Its TRULY disappointing to hear all the negative talk about alternative fuels. Is it the most cost effective right now? Maybe not...

Your right, it is not cost effective. Again, Hillary needs to show the American people how she will get this done, how we can afford to do this and how it will play on the economy.

The voters in Iowa already know how many times Hillary voted AGAINST biofuels while serving in the senate. NOW, she says that we NEED biofuels. Yes folks, that was just another 'flip-flop' for 'your girl' Hillary. She will say anything and do anything to get elected.

Its TRULY disappointing to hear all the negative talk about alternative fuels. Is it the most cost effective right now? Maybe not, but developing any new industry takes time and investment. That where this country has taken a wrong turn..not looking inward to solve its own problems. Why NOT support the American farmer??? All this "doomsday talk" about running out of water, food prices going up, land being used up to produce corn for fuel consumpution....scare tactics!!! Get a clue...one thing that is hard to argue is that when the ag industry is healthy, it has a large, positive impact on the entire economy. Agriculture touches nearly every other industry in this country..farmers need equipment that gets produced in factories. Farmers produce foods that feed a nation, meat eaters and vegans. Ask an ag producer what they truly want and need, its simple: a market for their product. Support the evolvement of alternative fuels in America, and you will get the ball rolling in creating an industry that will produce cleaner fuels, add thousands of new jobs, and support an industry of smaller businesses: the american farmer. nuf said.

Dear Misinformed Hillary,
Ethanol is not a viable alternative to oil. It consumes far more energy, water and fertilizer in its production than it will ever be able to provide as a fuel. We need the land for food, not fuel. Find another way!

Nevermind that biofuels and ethanol are just as pollutive as gas & diesel...

Clinton says she'd boost biofuels, ethanol production
Posted 11/6/2007 05:45:11 PM | Permalink
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Why do you put these topics up if you don't posts the responses? No wonder your viewership is shrinking faster than George's pecker in a cold pool.

S.B.
I think the reason there are skeptics is that the science is flawed. We all agree the Earth has "warmed" 1 degree from 1900 – whats at issue is whether Al Gore (who stated that CO2 was the cause) was truthful – Jon Stossel did a report on 20/20 about global warming – the graphs Gore shows that look like CO2 and heat are happening at the same time isn't true....he zoomed in on them...heat first....then CO2 follows...sometimes as long as 1000 years later....cause and effect are NEVER in reverse....we should be "green" for the right reasons...lies are not one of them – the most inexpensive power – btw...is hydropower...followed by wind...and geothermal (gas is 2.86 a gallon – biodiesel is 2.70 (for the same energy) hydro is 91 cents....wind and geothermal is 1.66/1.69 respectively – do the math...

Wierd..Bush is already trying to do that and your democratic led congress cant get anything done...Sorry Hillary this idea is old and your not inventing the wheel...

Ms Clinton, like many other Americans, should really do extensive research before shouting the praises of corn-based ethanol. Firstly, many high profile crop scientists say ethanol will end up contributing to global warming. Also in all tests conducted, ethanol has been found to have very little to no reduction in GhG. Additional studies have shown ethanol utilized 30% more energy to produce than it creates. Lastly, ethanol production would devastate those populations reliant on corn with increase in pricing and reduction of available land. Corn-based ethanol is not the answer.

Is Hillary planning a crime against humanity or does she just not know what she is talking about again??

"A U.N. expert on Friday called the growing practice of turning crops into biofuel "a crime against humanity" because it has created food shortages and sent food prices soaring, leaving millions of poor people hungry.

Scientific research is progressing very quickly, he said, "and in five years it will be possible to make biofuel and biodiesel from agricultural waste" — not from wheat, maize, sugar cane and other food crops."
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/26/news/UN-GEN-UN-Food-vs-Biofuel.php

If we could only harness the hot air coming out of her mouth.............

She came to the game too late!! Again, a follower. There is nothing new beyond Obama's energy policy publicized months ago.

After approx 8 years in the senate, I would love to see her voting record on this issue to see if this is actually her stance or a last second effort to wins votes!

I am a supporter...but really–pledging specific support and increased incentives for biofuel (which even elementary schools students know is not environmentally or financially practical)seems to be target only to the special interests of Iowa farmers. Remember Hillary, no matter what happens in Iowa–every American is analyzing your actions as a potential President. Say it like you really think it is, not by attempting to reach out to specific interest groups. What you stand for and what we need is the assurity–that you will address the needs of all Americans–and you will correct dumb things in Washington–even if it may mean losing some polls and votes. I don't think it will, America is looking for a fresh and positive change that is willing to objectively consider all actions, and make wise decisions based on their own judgement. You really can make it without having to hold out a bone or cater to special intersts–even good ones. Stay on track be a totally different President–the kind you want to be...the kind America hasn't had for a long, long, time. The kind most clear headed Americans yearn for.

I believe most people running for office have it wrong when they talk about ethanol. It can be made from other thing and not just corn. There was a report on NPR on 11/5/07 talking about using leftover from sawmills and lumber for ethanol. Producing ethanol from things we could eat is silly to put it nicely.

If we are to start moving to "renewable fuels," then let us do it correctly from the beginning. This requires materials that we do not eat. It should also be made, if possible, made from waste products that we throw out every day. Left over wood chips could be an ethanol source as well as other things. Having a vehicle engine use also methane which we can get from over flowing landfills as well as factory farms would be a great thing as well. I would love to see the Detriot automotive companies come out with a engine that could handle any of the following: ethanol, methane, CNG, any gasoline mixture as well as diesel. If that kind of engine could be combined with an electric battery to provide at least half the power, that would be a car I would consider.

It is too bad that there are still skeptics about global warming. The reason that I have heard so many skeptics use is that it would hurt the economy and cost jobs. Apparently this people are too afraid of new businesses. They can't think outside the box. These new industries and businesses would create thousands of jobs and require the U.S. to have a greater emphasis on science and engineering programs at our colleges and universities. The skeptics are scared that their funders can't compete with new technologies and ideas.

It takes 3 gallons of diesel fuleto harvest and produce corn made ethanol. How is that better. u still got 3 gallons of diesel exhaust, to come out 1 gallon of ethanol. corn isnt the answer it will spike food prices just like gasoline. HEMP is the answer food fuel fiber 100% renewable

Corn-based ethanol is a sham. It is inefficient and drives up the cost of every other crop. Cellulosic and other types of ethenol that are based on non-consumable sources are what this country needs. Then we can really break our dependance on foreign oil and not drain our wallets in the process.

News item: Hillary maintains her previous big lead over Hussein Obama and John Edwards after last Tuesday debate.

PRINCETON, NJ - New USA Today/Gallup polling conducted this past weekend shows few signs that front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton’s standing among Democrats nationally was affected by the recent Democratic candidate debate at Drexel University in Philadelphia. Clinton continues to lead all contenders as Democrats’ first choice for the nomination, with half of the Democratic vote - more than double the support of her nearest challenger, Sen. Barack Obama. Former Sen. John Edwards, the trial lawyer whose forceful approach to Clinton during the debate has become the subject of considerable discussion, saw no change in his position as the Democrats’ third-place candidate.
Clinton’s 50% of the vote, Obama’s 22%, and Edwards’ 15% are virtually unchanged from Gallup’s Oct. 12-14 poll.

Clinton continues to have the highest favorable ratings of the three leading candidates.

Yeah, and perhaps she can hire all the illegal immigrants that she so ardently supports to help put her plan into action. The corn has to get harvested by someone, right?

Ethanol is almost as big a scam as "global warming is caused by humans". Ethanol is too freaking expensive to make. We need drilling in Anwar and off the coast of Florida or there won't be an America around for all of you whiny liberals to make "environment friendly".

This woman will say ANYTHING to get elected.

Does anyone know what she really believes? Sometimes I doubt she even does.

Ron Paul looks better every day.

Why not strip out farm subsidies ($165 B in the last decade) and import the ethanol from Brazil,where it is made 35% cheaper than from corn? At last a chance for farmers in the tropics to make a good and fair living, and the US politicians look to fatten subsidies here. Global peace comes with economic justice.

Not sure what to believe. Senator Clinton is only now coming out in favor of ethanol having voted against ethanol legislation many times – just as things in Iowa are really heating up... offering carrots to the target constituency may be a smart way to win votes in the short run, but is it honest??

Is there going to be enough corn leftover to feed our cattle, chickens, and other livestock?

I wonder what this will do to the price of meat and other groceries, such as eggs and milk?

I guess after the socialists get in power, they will enforce going vegan.

No, wait....there won't be any corn to eat, either.

Don't believe the hype or in Hillary's case double-talk. Look at her senate voting record when it comes to biofuels. What she is stating now is not consistent on how she has voted!

You have voted for big oil and big oil lobbies time and time again Mrs. Clinton. Why all the sudden are you an eco warrior.

At least Barack Obama has a great record with environmentalists. He's supported actual real legislation while you've hedged your bets in the sludge.

Ethanol is no solution.
It is however a boon to big agri-business and will at best forstall a move we need to make away from normal engines while at the same time it will raise food prices which will impact the lower classes the worst.
Hillary Clinton is easily better than any republican, but she is no solution either. Most of the republicans (except Ron Paul) and Ms Clinton will give us this happy talk about ethanol and other things but they won't clearly break far enough from the nonsense of the past few years.

Great to know that Hillary is in the ranks of our vaunted celebrity scientists. Throw in Gore as VP and heck, who needs to actually know what they are talking about? The national political process has become a charade – Hillary isn't the reason, just a prominent illustration.

you go hillary...i remember those days in the 50's when my dad as your dad said 'turn those lights out or we will be relying on biofuel'...i cannot believe that america believes ANYTHING you or Bubba says

Moron. I just love it when lawyers think they're engineers, scientists and economists all rolled up in one. This follows a proclamation for CAFE of 55 mpg by 2030. Sounds good, Hillary, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why did she vote against ethanol and biofuel production in the senate?

More clinton waffling.

Hillary,I certainly hope it rains so you have the opportunity to grow all the grain for your ethanol and biofuel. Maybe you should look at an alternative plan as well perhaps wind and solar energy. With global warming that may be all you have left and save the food to feed the poor!!!

Here is the problem with this plan. Corn based ethanol is not really the answer. You get less gas mileage, you still need to burn Diesel Fuel to harvest the corn and process the corn. In addition, Corn is hard on soil. Farmers will also plant more corn than other vegetables, thus causing the price on the other vegetables to rise.

It is a nice idea, but flawed.

Hillary's 15 minutes are long over!!! Her Nazi tactics to rule healthcare and demilitarize the White House during Bill's sojourn will forever remain entrenched in America's mindset. Your supporters want anyone who will lead at this point but will abandon you come vote harvest.

Why does anyone expect Clinton to hit a home run every time she is in a debate? She has done better than all the others in the debates.
Edwards has done good and I like him a lot but he does not hit a homerun every time either.
Obama is in the same, they are all great candidates and I would support any of them over anything the republicans can come up with.
All three have laid out a good vision to take this country and I believe they will do as much as possible to do the things they say they will do, but they also have to work with a congress that has its own agenda and they may not be the same.

Sure lets throw more tax breaks and gov't money to corn farmers to not grow food. the price of beef is high? it is because th cost of corn is up? Corn prices index to just about everything in the market place. I wish I could get paid to no do anything... oh wait, Hillary won't give me anything because I work fr a living, she will just take my money and give it to every free loader and non producer in the county. No wonder all the illegal aliens in NY are going to be voting for her after they get their licenses.

DOES SHE REALLY CARE? NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Pull hard on alternate fuels miss Hillary. Had we stuck with Jimmy Carters plan we would not be lynched by Bush's big oil buddies today. That alt. fuel plan will put our farmers to work and our country back in the freedom light again.

Perhaps if we'd start drilling for more oil in Alaska and off the coasts of Texas, California, and Florida we wouldn't have to buy so much foreign oil. I have nothing against alternative sources of energy, but they're a LONG way off. If every acre of crop land were used for corn to produce ethanol we still wouldn't have enough to run our automobiles and our industry, and we certainly have nowhere near enough water to produce the ethanol. Then they're that small problem of what our livestock will eat if all the corn is used for ethanol.

Instead of tax incentives to focus on one or two possible energy sources, how about eliminating the capital gains tax to stimulate invest in EVERYTHING. Government isn't going to solve these problems, we need an unfettered market to encourage geniuses to use their brains. Regrettably, that solution doesn't fit in with the collectivits views of Hillary or Gore.

Will you allow states to legalize the growing of hemp, which is far more efficient in creating ethanol fuel than corn? And what about sugarcane, which Brazil is utilizing wonderfully?

Clinton saying she would work to boost corn-based ethanol is further proof to me that she doesn't know (and perhaps doesn't care) about the issues; she just wants to sound good.

The only reason ethanol is thought of so highly is because Iowa is a hot primary state. It is not worth it. The money should be put into scientific research for alternative fuels. Anyone who knows anything about the process and the science knows it will not help in the long run. It is the reason food prices are increasing. It increases cost and does not help the environment in the end (after processes and such).

It takes more energy to produce a gallon of biofuel than you get from that gallon–it's a net energy loss!

Further, "dramatically increase biofuels production" will put a lot of pressure on the demand for the sources–like corn–of biofuels, thereby raising the prices. Of course, Hilary doesn't much care about that–the higher the base price, the greater the tax collected and Hilary is very much a believer in "All your money are belong to us!"

But, politician that she is, reality is irrelevant to The Hil, and biofuels play well in Iowa.

Scientific studies have found that biofuels burn dirtier than other fuels. Also, ethanol is more costly to produce then gas. More filth and higher cost is not a really good solution. Electric cars are coming along great. Check out the new electric sports car "Tesla".

thats funny, Obama has said the same things in the past.

She was against it and now she is for it because the elections is around the corner. The best flip flopper in this generation.

For all who support her. Check her records in the senate on this issue for the last six years. It is all opposite to what she is preaching now.

I wish the American people can realise who she really is. She will say and do anything to win. Jepers.

CNN shame on you for reporting this story. It is very bias. You don't mention that in the past six years she has voted against ethanol or biofuels more than half a dozen times. Shame on CNN.

She was against it and now she is for it because the elections is around the corner. The best flip flopper in this generation.

For all who support her. Check her records in the senate on this issue for the last six years. It is all opposite to what she is preaching now.

I wish the American people can realise who she really is. She will say and do anything to win. Jepers.

CNN shame on you for reporting this story. It is very bias. You don't mention that in the past six years she has voted against ethanol or biofuels more than half a dozen times. Shame on CNN.

Gerrold.. that comment was so funny, I loved it.

That's it increase our production of Corn based ethanol... Doesn't anyone realize that ethanol based off corn is ruining our ability to provide food for the impoverished. It is driving up the price of many of our consumable foods that have any direct or indirect relationship with corn. Beef and Chicken is sky rocketting. Farmers are growing corn instead of letting their fields sit cycles to regain nutrients. We are depleting our soils for ethanol. It is not the answer.

We need to reduce our dependance on fossil fuels yes, but this is not the answer. Nuclear Power is 9x as efficient and less cost. There has been more damage to the environment caused by many other fuel sources than by nuclear power. We need to convert to it now, especially since it takes 10-20years to get through.

Hillary Clinton pretends to ignore the fact that ethanol will have to be retrieved mainly from wheat crops, therefore the price of bread, a vital staple in developing countries will send prices out of control, as has been already proved by the first attempts to make ethanol from wheat. The US is first among the Western nations in having provoked peak oil. Now they will be to blame for provoking peak food, increasing starvation.
But Hillary will promise anything to get to power. She has demonstrated the will to do so.

Ethanol is a horrible,horrible idea.

Are we going to have enough water to produce all of that biofuel?

Will Bill be coming out soon to translate what Hillary REALLY meant?

We can't assume we heard her correctly until her husband has signed off.

In her speech, delivered in the central Iowa city of Newton, Clinton also encouraged energy conservation, adding that everyone should have the determination her father had on the issue.

"[He] would not leave a room without turning off all the lights," Clinton said.

Actually Hillary, psychologists would suggest your father was really attempting to pretend you weren't there. Sadly, I feel for the guy. I wish you weren't on the news, tv, or debates either.

When will she ever get anything right. There is more oil in Manitoba than in the entire Middle East. Supposedly they will it flowing as soon as they
can build a waste disposal plant to separate out the sand from the oil deposits.

In good news for Hillary, she is much more competitive in Texas than expected, according to this new general election poll from Rasmussen out today! She even leads in one match-up!