Quote from Ronald Reagan:
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

However, bemoaning the Democratic Congress as a "give away Congress" is really slight of hand. Were you out there bemaoning the Republican Congress when it was funding bridges to nowhere? When it was "spending money like a drunken sailor?" That is a quote from John McCain. It was a Republican Congress that, amidst a war on terror, spent so foolishly that fiscal Republicans have turned on the party.

As for "give aways" aimed at welfare moms, I hate welfare cheats too, but not everyone who accepts Government help is a welfare cheat, besides the rules are clearly tougher these days. Also, while we're talking about welfare cheats, would you like to add some venom in terms of corporate welfare–like Halliburton. If you want to know who is really ripping off our tax dollars look at the corporations with the lobbyists in DC and at the State levels. Aaah, I know, that's business and they're allowed to cheat and steal. I bet the fact that they are largely led by white, male, Republicans doesn't hurt either. Besides, it's always easier to beat on the lowly, sinning individual, then the high and powerful organization.

As for Clinton, religion, morals and the Presidency, your analysis may be too rosey. Yes, Clinton's actions as a man were embarrassing, but his decisions as a President were pretty darned sound [compare our experiences in Bosnia to those our misguided adventure in Iraq]. We ended up with Bush because he was sold as the anti-Clinton. He's been personally moral, but his policies [all based on lies and deceptions] have resulted in how many dead soldiers? As the bumper sticker goes: When Clinton lied, nobody dies."

As for electing a woman, if you raised that, we will never see eye-to-eye; however, at this point, if this were 2004 again, I'd elect a trained Chimpanzee rather than Bush. If all he had was a 50:50 chance of doing right by the people, he'd trounce Georgie W. I would take Hillary in a heart beat over any of the current flip/flop Republicans [only Sam Brownback is consistent], though I do think the current field could at least give the Chimpanzee a tough go.

I elect a person for their judgement first

Very compelling testimony, thank you. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I also think that Mitt Romney was born to be President of our great nation – the United States of America.

"Will these Republicans stop falling over each other to pander to the least educated class of people in the country?"

Ok really??? I am not a supporter of this school but i am Christian and I find it offensive that you think religion denotes intellect. I find it very concerning that a large portion of the US is being called unintelligent by someone who has not ever met most these people. religion and beliefs don't make one stupid, ignorance does. I guess that means you will be keeping all those people you cut down company in the bottom of the intelligence pool.

I can tell you one thing I know for sure, Mitt Romney is the GUY WE NEED TO RUN THIS COUNTRY at this time, not since Ronald Reagan have I seen a more capable guy.

It tells me another thing too, there is alot of nut jobs that make uninformed comments before thinking.

GO ROMNEY !

You need to stop assuming because you are as wrong as you can be. I am indeed a member of the LDS church currently serving in a bishopric. Further, I do take exception to when Mitt says "Fine" to someone who insults his religion. My faith is part of me and insulting it is insulting me. It is fine to disagree with the doctrine, but to say what I believe is "wrong" or I am in an "erroneous" religion as Bob Jones said is beyond reproach and "fine" is an inadequate response. So please, stop making assumptions much like Mitt Romney needs to not assume all Mormons are going to vote for him. His pandering to these hate mongering, self-righteous so-called "Christians" is sickening and has driven my support from him. I am now supporting Ron Paul because he is his own man and is consistent in his convictions. I am Mormon, I am a Christian, and I will not support any candidate who panders to those who have such a blind and ignorant hatred toward my faith.

Posted By DHunter, Orem, UT : November 9, 2007 7:11 pm

Excellent point DHunter and if the sheep look down a little further on this site they would find a blog where Billyboy had a "members only meeting" with black folks and they were clearing the sidewalks of ANYONE that they didn't want in such as the media.

He even flip flopped on whether the media was invited or not, must be "someone elses fault".

WatchingHillary.com

If that is true, why is Mitt having secret "invitation only" meetings with Southern Baptists ... he's trying to gain votes from voters who believe religion is the only criteria ...

Two faced? Two sided? Wearing his flip-flops?

FOX NEWS idiots,go back to your network,it's time for your daily brainwashing!Romney,Rudy etal are taking care of the whitewashing.

Republicans need a candidate who can think outside the box; still stay within the bounds of Constitution and the law; and not sell his or her soul to the devil, Pat Roberston, Dick Land, Bob Jones University Alumni ... but I repeat myself.

The LDS church maintains a racist doctrine which teaches that blacks were “less valiant” spirits in what Mormons believe to have been a pre-existence. Church leaders have taught for 175 years that being born with black skin and features (the mark of Cain) was punishment by God for their “less than faithful” actions. Based on this doctrine, the Mormon Church prohibited blacks from holding the LDS Priesthood until 1978 when it lifted the ban following tremendous public pressure including a threat to revoke their tax exempt status.

Romney has publicly stated that he is not a “cafeteria” Mormon who picks and chooses which doctrines he will accept. Romney was 31 years old at the time the Church lifted the ban which means that for a significant portion of his adult life he accepted his church’s teaching that blacks are inherently inferior.

Does Romney still believe that he is more "valiant" or “worthy” than blacks by virtue of being born Caucasian? If he didn't believe that people of color were inferior during his adult life before the ban was lifted, then why did he remain a member – tacitly supporting the ban and its doctrinal underpinnings? Did he counsel members to not accept this church teaching when he was a church missionary, bishop or stake president? Did he lobby his church leaders to disavow the doctrine and change their teaching?

Please note that while the church has changed its policy of prohibiting blacks from holding its priesthood, it has never renounced the doctrine that led to the ban in the first place. It has never disavowed or removed from the church cannon the scripture that the doctrine is based upon (i.e. Pearl of Great Price). It has never renounced or apologized for racist statements made by its leaders. It is interesting to note that while nearly 30 years have passed since the ban was lifted, not a single black face appears in the upper echelons of Mormon church leadership.

Technically, all discussions of law involve some form of ethics. Most discussions of ethics involve religion. The US Constitution does not call for a separation of church and state, but that the State may not establish a Church (ie the Church of England). Don't get me wrong, it's interpretted that this means to keep things separate, but lets not play pretend that morality can ever be separated from many people's faith...and frankly if they truly believe why should it be? There is nothing wrong with religion. I am tired of people cramming both sides in my face. Voting based on your values is important, but voting only based on faith is foolish. We are dealing with people, not God.

I am Mormon, baptized 11 years ago, and currently serve in a bishopric. I was non-committal until recently but leaning toward Mitt because of his business acumen. This business with courting the Bob Jones types turned me totally away from his campaign and the next closest candidate I support is Ron Paul. So, I am glad you know me well enough that you know my religion and you also know that I have no issue with "fine". I do have an issue with him saying "fine" since he didn't say he disagreed with the LDS faith, but the LDS faith was wrong. As a member of the Church in Baptist-land like me would not try to ingratiate themselves to someone of that ilk. Bryan, please don't think that every Mormon is going to vote for Mitt Romney. I do have a brain and think for myself and have voted for the democratic presidential candidate the last four elections. I also hope that Mitt Romney in courting the votes of these misguided folks who hate us out of blind ignorance doesn't take the Mormon vote for granted.

Posted By Bill, Bloomington IL : November 9, 2007 2:53 pm

Aside from being totally irrelevant, the Constitution calls for a separation of church and state. The Supreme Court has ruled to that effect...so what's your point Bill? Are you unAmerican? If you want government sponsored religion move to Iran.

the only candidate that is not the same old evil sell out is Ron Paul.

Posted By Bill, Bloomington IL : November 9, 2007 2:31 pm "

Bill, why do you and other Republicans continue to fall back on the Clinton administration? It's back in the past. The Republicans spent millions of our tax dollars trying to get something on Clinton and they couldn't except for a lie he told about him and Monica. Big whoop. He didn't lie and get us into a war did he? He didn't fill his administration with incompetent cronies did he? He created a budget surplus which Bush immediately flushed away. And regarding the suicide, why don't you come up with some proof that the Clintons had anything to do with it? Check out the Bush family before you call the Clintons criminals and stick with what the current administration has been doing and how most of the Republican presidential hopefuls will most likely follow in Bush's footsteps.

Also, about flip-flopping. I think it is okay to change your mind about your personnel views. Who hasn't? If you were to go through life without changing your mind on anything then your brain is dead. I see lots of things differently now from when I was younger. But when you change your mind just to buy a few votes that says a lot about your ethics.

Mitt Romney = Mormon

I guess that it is ok for a democrat like me to vote Romney!

Posted By Juan Rivera, Wichita, KS : November 9, 2007 2:15 pm

Are you kidding me?? Seriously what is wrong with you people know what your talking about be for you TALK!!!!

I was raised a Baptist, and I think most Baptists would agree with me that if any five Baptists found a church then by the end of the year two of them would have withdrawn due to the heretical beliefs of the other three.

Pat Roberston's recent endorsement of Giuliani for the Republican nomination has made me question the integrity of any real concern over Mr. Romney's relegios beliefs. If evangelicals were really so concerned about the differences in their sects, why would they endorse a man who is so obviously in favor of everything they are opposed to? Is this really just another opportuntiy for the evangelical community to BASH a relegion that doesn't line up with their own? Not a very Christian thing to do. The whole thing makes me question the sincerity and integrity of the evangelical community. To follow Giuliani tells me that your beliefs aren't that important to you after all.

I know an awful lot of people who are Mormons. They are overwhelmingly good, honest, hardworking people who are Christian despite what the evangelicals think. Isn't the name of their church the Church of JESUS CHRIST? Strange coincidence for people who are supposedly not Christian.

Mitt Romney has my vote over Giuliani hands down. I don't care what relegion he is. I'm looking for a President, not a preacher!

GO MITT!

What Romney is telling them is that, apart from theology, which occurs only in the minds of men and women, he is like them. That is surely true. Non-smoking, non-drinking, clean language, fidelity to some/any church, regular church attendance, avoidance of sexuality in language and gesture, condemnation of sexual or anti-religious material in art and literature, adherence to majority codes of propriety, do as you're told, think as you're told, and go to heaven is the basic message of both groups. They may quibble over angels' names (Michael or Moroni) and over who exactly will be allowed in heaven, but the Judeo-Christian sects are experts at theological tiffs.

What is also clear is that if you are NOT Mormon and NOT evangelical, then you are on the outside looking in. Your opinions are not important to either group.

Yes. Yes it is. And someone that can be deluded into that and other Mormon beliefs should not hold the most powerful position on THIS planet.

Fact: Romney has always supported equal treatment of gays and lesbians in employment and other aspects of society, but he has always opposed both civil unions and any redefinition of traditional marriage to be anything other than between a man and a woman. He most definitely did NOT initiate "gay marriage" in Massachusetts; on the contrary, he did everything within his legal power as governor to fight against this product of a liberal judiciary. Sorry folks, but there's no flip-flop here either.

The simple fact is that the "flip-flop" label was manufactured by the liberal media and the Democratic National Committee because there is literally no other way for them to oppose a candidate like Romney who is not only the most qualified person to offer himself up for public service in a generation, but is also above reproach in his personal and business life. In short, they are scared to death of him politically.

In other circles, the flip-flop label is thrown out as a convenient reason to not support him by those who often are opposed to him because of his religion–but won't admit up to it. For such people, there are usually two reasons for everything–the real reason, and the one that sounds good...

It would be nice if those opposing Mormons could simply agree to disagree.

At one point, Pastor Wilton states "This is not a conversation about a person, it is about a religion that drives a person to do what he does."

What does Mormonism drive people to do? Pastor Wilton answers this question: "The people of the Mormon religion are very highly astute, highly family-oriented, deeply character-driven people."

And yet, he says "Mormonism does make me nervous, because I am a Christian, and because the precepts and principles, and more importantly, the practices of Mormonism have cause for great concern."

Without trying to cast stones, doesn't this seem a little contradictory?

maybe they didn't get any fodder because there isn't any...did you think of that?