November 11th, 2007
12:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Giuilani knocks Clinton for waffling

Rudy Giuliani campaigns in Colorado on Saturday.

(CNN) - Leading Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani criticized Hillary Clinton Saturday in Colorado for being indecisive on illegal immigration and Iraq.

“It is the whole shifting positions of Hillary Clinton, which I think has now caught up to her. Hillary Clinton has been doing this for a long time. The driver’s license answer merely displayed what has been going on with Hillary Clinton throughout this entire campaign. She cannot take a position and stick with it,” said Giuliani at a campaign stop in Loveland, Colorado.

“And if you want to go back, you can track six different positions on Iraq and that is a very serious matter,” added Giuliani.

Giuliani was interrupted by 9/11 conspiracy theorists who accused Giuliani of having prior knowledge of the attack on the World Trade Center. As one protester was escorted from the Loveland Coffee Company by police, others continued chanting and carrying signs reading, “911 was an inside job.”

Giuliani dismissed the protesters as being small in number. “After being mayor for eight years, I would consider this kind of a minor four or five person protest. It doesn’t compare to anything I have faced in the past,” said Giuliani.

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  1. Max, Boston, MA

    So are we supposed to parrot "waffling" as if it were a pseudo-issue like "flip-flopping"?

    I'm not interested in taglines, Rudy.

    November 11, 2007 10:25 am at 10:25 am |
  2. Jamie, NJ

    "And if you want to go back, you can track like eight different wives I've had, and that's a very serious matter."

    November 11, 2007 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
  3. Scott Emering, Fort Mitchell, KY

    Why no report on CNN of Hillary's unethical planting of a pre-arranged question at a recent debate? Oh, I forgot – this is the Clinton News Network.

    November 11, 2007 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  4. Joe, St. Paul, MN

    Rudy's a joke. He's been waffling for years: "How many wives can I have?"

    November 11, 2007 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  5. JB Boston MA


    You obviously don't know me. I went to a Catholic High School, a Catholic College, and have studied more religions than you can name. On top of that I was a Political Science major with a minor in Philosophy. So, I think I do know what I am talking about. "In God We Trust" you weiner!

    November 11, 2007 10:47 am at 10:47 am |
  6. Daniel, NY

    Giuliani has a lot of work to do, as the latest general election poll out yesterday has Clinton expanding her lead against him.

    November 11, 2007 10:47 am at 10:47 am |
  7. JB Boston MA

    By the way, you "progressives" keep spouting that garbage about "Guiliani did nothing on 9-11" and the words Swift Boat will be brought back into the political discord, and I might add will be used in the correct context. Not like when the sexual predator Bill CLinton uses it.

    November 11, 2007 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  8. Samuel, Lincoln, NE

    You speak the truth…Hillary if you keep claiming how incredibly ignorant this administration is but yet BUSH tricked you into supporting IRAQ isnt that kinda like talking out of bothsides of your mouth. Sorry Hillary you have been exposed….What are you going to do in 2-3 months when things keeping going well in Iraq say you supported the mission the whole time????You are pathetic and make me sick to my stomach. And all you left wing idiots on here claiming BUSH lied and it is a illegal war…REALLY …So when Congress voted to authorize war that was Illegal too????You people really need to get educated and stop your common theme of BUSH lied..cause he didnt and it is looking more and more like you will be on the wrong side of history. See what you short sighted mental midgets dont understand is War is hell and it sucks but you dont give up when things dont go your way and Another thing you uneducated fools dont understand is if you give our Brave men and woman enough time they will adjust their tactics and we will prevail. I am so glad we have such a strong leader in Bush that understands that Wars are not won by opinion polls but yet thru determination and persistance…God bless our troops and our President….

    Posted By Retired Sgt. Alex Brown Chicago : November 11, 2007 9:31 am

    Sergeant, the "mental midget" is YOU. Only idiots and crack addicts believe anything that comes out of the mouth of George W. Bush. Face facts...he LIED. Every bit of objective evidence proves it conclusively. Instead of calling war opponents "left wing idiots" you'd better get a grip on reality yourself. God Bless our President?" I'm looking forward to seeing him in an orange jumpsuit doing the perp walk with Dick Cheney.

    November 11, 2007 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  9. Raymond, El Paso TX

    Yeah Rudy, we already have a divisive, non-waffling, stubborn idiot in the White House and look where that's gotten us.

    Also, the Iraq Study Group was set up to find real solutions to real and immediate problems yet you dropped out and showed no commitment whatsoever. Now you're expecting us to trust you with America's problems? Keep dreaming!

    November 11, 2007 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  10. Tony, Enterprise, Alabama

    Rudy the waffler is accusing someone else of waffling?

    Senator Biden was right, Rudy is a noun a verb and 9/11, totally unqualified to be President.

    And please, keep me from gagging; his performance before, during and after 9/11 was NOT anything to brag about. And the best witness to that is the first responders of New York have absolutely NO RESPECT for the man. I will go with their judgement, after all, they were there.

    Charactor? The man has no charactor! His personal life is in worse condition than Senator Clinton's and always has been.

    At the risk of insulting Newark, he is not qualified to be Mayor of Newark, New Jersey much less President of the United States.

    November 11, 2007 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  11. Karen,ny

    Well, I don't think that Rudy is giving up because maybe he knows that there is something wrong with him, a little, but he doesn't know how to go about getting rid of it. I think he wants it to leave, but it's stuck in there.

    November 11, 2007 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  12. Nate, Minneapolis, MN

    Rudy is fiscally conservative, turned down crime and the economy up in NY...

    November 11, 2007 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  13. A. Harrison, Atlanta Georgia

    What do you stand for Guiliani?

    November 11, 2007 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  14. Jay, Washington, DC

    To JB and the rest of what I call the "Christian Nationalists:" Your revisionist view of American history is frightening in its selective blindness.
    You are partially right about the county being founded on Christian values but ONLY IF you say Judeo-Christian values and ONLY IF you note that this is so because the Founders were products of European cultures so founded. You are wrong to assume that such values were intentionally incorporated by the Founders into bedrock of this Republic.

    You are completely wrong in terms of the views of the Founders. With FEW exceptions, most were very light in terms of formal religion. Washington was Episcopalian but only because it was the established religion of Virginia at the time and church positions were the equivalent of community leadership positions. He was often chided from the pulpit for his failure to attend. Jefferson, Franklin, Adams and Madison all were noted for their abhorance to formal religion, even to a deity that took any personal role in our lives.

    Finally, I shudder when I hear the phrase "Christian Nation." It is an invitation to religious intolerance by the backdoor. If you don't agree, let me ask you this: Just who's Christianity will be Nationalized? It's all fine so long as the country has a non-Christian population. If they are successfully marginalized, would the Christian Nationalists still be happy to march with Mormons? Catholics and Episcopalians? Lutherans? Who's next after that? sooner or later, the test of Christian Nationalism will eliminate all but only a few and they probably will share nothing in common with the Prince of Peace or the 12 Apostles.

    November 11, 2007 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  15. Texas Patriot, Dallas, TX

    I see a lot of partisan bickering on here. That will be our downfall as a nation. It's why China will surpass the United States as a global superpower. Americans are pigheaded and stubborn, and live life with blinders on. No one can see past their own noses, political affiliation, or personal points of view.

    For those of you truly condsidering "sitting out" the voting process next year,I URGE YOU, PLEASE DO NOT SIT OUT THE VOTE???" This is how the wrong people get elected, and take this nation farther down the tubes. Voter apathy is the greatest threat to democracy. Not "terrorism", "Al Quaeda", Bush, Clinton, ect....but the American peoples' lack of concern for what their leaders do with their nation.

    Everyone on this post is busy insulting the candidates and comparing them, when what they should be doing is looking at where the candidates stand on crucial issues, to make informed decisions next year. We're not looking at this race from an objective, rational standpoint. It's basically a national, highschool popularity contest.

    For anyone considering not voting, because you are fed up with the main candidates like Guliani and Clinton, I urge you to seriously consider the other candidates with lesser known names. The US media drives so much of public decisions politically. Because only certain candidates receive more than their share of media coverage(Giuliani/Clinton), they get nearly all the attention from the voting public. Because of that, we, the people, end up with a bad leader in either case, nobody wins. People are only presented with Hillary and Giuliani as "THE" candidates for their respective parties. People are already resigning themselves to either one of the runners. WHY? If voters aren't happy with either candidate, then look at candidates farther down the line. Look at RON PAUL, if you absolutely HAVE to vote republican. Look at candidates like BILL RICHARDSON, and others if you must vote democrat.

    Think, Americans. Listen, look deep into alternatices for President, listen to what they have to say. You may surprise yourselves and find a better leader. Much better than the current run of the mill (Clinton/Giuliani)

    November 11, 2007 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  16. TO AZ

    Giulani is in with one of the biggest crime bosses in New York, Bernard Kerik.
    Giulani cannot be trusted!

    November 11, 2007 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  17. Gary NY

    Americans have a pathetically short memory when it comes to politics. Giuliani ran a police state in NY and he will do it again if given the opportunity. Does anyone recall that he appointed his longtime friend Bernard Kerick as head of Homeland Security who has who was indicted a few days ago? 9-11 saved Rudy's career because he was on a massive downhill slide months before it and capitalized on it by simply doing his job. He turned his back on the same police force that he gave free reign to profile ethnic New Yorkers. He claimed credit for New York's dwindling crime rate when in fact the national average was on a downturn during the Dinkins Administration. If you want 4 more years of the Bush legacy than by all means, vote for this idiot. While he might have rid NY of the annoying window washers he is by no means any different than the clown currently destroying our country.

    November 11, 2007 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  18. Yousuf, Lodi nJ

    FLIP FLOP, WAFFLE, Waffle..Lets bring John Kerry back for this waffle..or flip flop. I thought we lived in America, but it seems more of a third world country....RUDY is just, Rudy, He cant stick to his own story...He flipped flopped more then a dollar coaster..Rudy selected a commissioner for the HIGHEST SECURITY POSSITION...and this guy is a fraud...GO FIGURE..also hes got three wives...Lets sit this one out...

    November 11, 2007 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  19. Joel Savitz, Boca Raton, FL

    All the continuous jabbering about politicians changing their minds and their position on different issues.
    The biggest problem we face with our 'Congress' is their inability to adjust to new events and situations.
    How many ass-kissing congresspeople are still following George W. down a well of lies and deceit?
    Enough to keep pouring billions of dollars into a war which has already been lost.
    If even the Generals could get it right, we might have saved a thousand American lives.
    Why not.....pull the troops out of the cities and set up camp in the desert.
    Close enough to maintain 'striking power' but far enough away for adaquate safety & protection. The enemy in Iraq isn't afraid of America, but knowing they can't reach US soldiers, but US soldiers could be dropping in on them at any time would be equal to the President's 'War of Fear' he is conducting on the American people. Successfully unfortunately!
    Three or four fully equiped military bases in the desert in strategic areas would have to cost less money than maintaining forces throughtout the entire country. Hell, we have a base in Cuba & they are still a dictator led Communist country after almost 50 years, but at least we have nothing to fear from them.
    Wake up America!

    November 11, 2007 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  20. Kyle, Glens Falls, NY

    I find it ironic that Giuliani jumped all over Ron Paul when Paul stated that America's intrusional policies and actions in the Middle East were the main engine behind the motivation to the 9/11 attacks (which the CIA and FBI confirmed)...which he completely misinterpreted as "blaming America for 9/11"; now he's supported by a guy who said that America is to blame for 9/11 because of God's anger over gays, abortionists, etc and he is mute. What a freakin hypocrite, go to hell Giuliani.

    November 11, 2007 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  21. Nik Kripalani, San Diego, CA

    Clinton Knocks of Giulani and If she wins the Presidency, I will be happy and now every parent will learn to control their kids. I have listened to my mom for 54 years and I still have a long way to go till she reaches 100!

    Giuilani wrong for President, Wrong on issues.

    Clinton Good for Enviorment, Good for Social Security and Retirement.

    November 11, 2007 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  22. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Giuliani says, "Hillary can't take a position and stick with it". Giuliani can't take a wife and stick with her. And yes, Giuliani should know whose waffling, he wrote the book. My values don't allow me to believe anything that comes out of Giuliani's mouth based on his "track positions".

    November 11, 2007 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  23. JB Boston MA


    You opened up your post, and I thought "oh no, here we go".

    "Revisionist view of American History"???????

    You cannot argue that many peoples morals and ethics were built upon their religious teachings. That in itself will effect their politics. PERIOD. Back when this country was being formed, someone defined as without religion, would be considered very religious today. Did you know that Benjamin Franklin was going to be a minister? Sam Adams never missed church. John Adams was very religious. He was a Unitarian and thought religion should play a MAJOR role in an individuals life, but not society as a whole.

    You say these people were "lite" in their formal training. Jefferson was extensively trained in religion as well, however, he believed the mysticism found in the Bible to be. . .unbelievable. But certainly is not "lite" in his teachings. Some say he read the Bible more than any other book. He did think that religion was responsible for many problems in society.

    I think you need to go back to school. Who's the revisionist now?

    I do not believe that ANY religion should play a direct role in politics. And you are right, many of the founding fathers thought the same. But, the effects on their extensive religious training AFFECTED the way they established this country.

    I also think you "progressives" are making a HUGE mistake alienating those who have some sort of faith in their lives. Their are many Christians in Massachusetts and you can't get much Bluer than Massachusetts.

    And finally, I would like to quote Samuel Adams-

    "In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practised, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society."

    I can go all day Jay. I would love to hear your response. I can assure that what I have posted is accurate.

    November 11, 2007 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  24. John Starnes Tampa Florida

    Giuliani showed his true colors by missing EVERY MEETING of the prestigious, Republican-led Iraq Study Group and instead attending fund raisers for his own campaign. When the Republican chairman told him to either start showing up or leave...he raise MORE money. When given a chance to get INFORMED about the extremely important matter of Iraq, and add his voice to the quest for solutions, he chose greed and personal ambition over duty to country. Not only does that decision reveal he is not genuinely interested in what is best for America, he is the arrogance and self serving of Cheney and Bush repackaged, and like Bush totally dependent on "9-11" appearing in bold letters on the label. We would all be better off if he would spend his remaining days collecting ex-wives and and chanting to himself his self-administered accolades for his "heroism" on 9-11.

    November 11, 2007 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  25. TO AZ

    Rudy Giuliani And Bernard Kerik
    President and Vise President!
    What a pair they would make, what money they would make still working together!
    And yes, he did make a fool of himself trying to go up against Ron Paul.

    November 11, 2007 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
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