**christian, selden, ny**

Nothing I said had anything to do with common sense. I was refering to the normal Dem outlook that people from the south or people in the military are uneducated poor people. I know you'r going to say 'That's a Lie' yet your party said it….of course they jumped back once people called them on it.

It sitll comes down to this. The Dems lied and Bush didn't….I'm sorry but you're going to have to learn to deal with it.

So the arguement is that the Constitution only provides for a Defense and Tresury Dept…so what! The Constitution is a living and evolving thing. To say otherwise is just a cop-out for halfwit republicans who still won't abandon Bush's insane policies. I can't believe there are actually posts on here using that as an excuse to veto health and education bills. Using republican logic, I suppose that mean we'd have to dump the "No Child Left Behind Act" as well. Hmm wait a minute maybe there is something to that line of thinking after all. January '09 can't come soon enough!

No child left behind, no child advanced further. If your smart you help the curve,so no need to recognize your gifted abilities. If your not meeting the federal standards, we take away funds to by materials needed to teach. Oh, and by the way you'll have to pay for those tests yourself, because we won't pay for them. And while were at it, spend all your time drilling the kids to pass the test, cause it isn't about teaching anymore.
And, think we'll just take more money away while we're at it. Have fun with those bake sales and PTA's you'll need it.
signed,
your government.

I hope he continues to veto the health bill. I don't think I should have to take care of other people's families. If you brought the child into this world, then you should take care of them. If you cannot then you should give them to someone who can take care of them. End of story. I will not support any health bill accept for a universal one that includes ALL people. And only then if it does not increase taxes. If it increases taxes I say we already have healthcare, deal with it. To many people are bringing children into this world when they cannot take care of them. The world is crowded as it is. Don't bring a poor defenseless child into the world if you cannot take care of it. And I don't care what that health bill entails I guarantee it's geared towards children. All the laws passed on children in the past few years has done nothing but cause pain for other people. Do I care about children? Yes! But it should NOT be mandatory for me to help other peoples children. (I'll just keep sending this through since the moderators keep taking it off.) Though the only offensive thing I see in this post is a wake up call!

Anonymous, Williamsburg, VA

u need to stop taking sides

" just wonder how these Bush bsshers would respond to knowing that some of their Democrat Congressional representatives supported some of the huge Defense appropriations for new weapons systems?"

there are 2 parties fighting for power and guess what…you and me are part of neither. the parties have the people believing THEY are repubs and democrats. we are not…they are.

Terry, Lakeland, FL

one of the things you learn as you grow is things like masters degrees and serving in the military mean absolutely nothing to a persons common sense. ive met so many people with more college education then me, lawyers, doctors that i used to consider to be smarter then me but all i have to do is have a conversation with them to realize they really dont know much at all. i am a self made business man that came from nothing. i barely graduated high school but i make more money and work harder then alot of my friends with finance degrees and masters. my brother owns his own law firm, passed the bar and all, but we are on the same level as in conversation and debate. the fact is there has been alot of "smart" people in this world that burnt crosses. hitler was able to talk an entire country into almost taking over the world and he went to art school and dropped out! dems arent saying uneducated people like bush they are saying people with no real common sense like bush. you see you cant think "in the box" because the government doesnt think "in the box" so when people say "bush wouldnt do that" the repubs "wouldnt do that" and call people crazy for thinking the government could be controlled by major corporations dollars, it doesnt make sense. because if youve ever owned your own business you would know you cant be mainstream you have to think different to survive and beat out the next guy. and the more power you have the more you have to go outside of that box. the CIA and FBI have to be WAY out of the box to do what they do. so instead of thinking about how the US government is the good guys why not look at it from a business perspective and you will see exactly how it could work. its not good verse eveil we dont fight for freedom. its business, plain and simple. people need to stop taking these parties so personal and hold them accountable. you cant "understand" where bush is coming because you have no idea what that kind of power is and what it takes to keep it.

Most of these commnets are realy ignorant. Congress always tucks a crazy bill that could NEVER stand on its own into a bill that tugs on our emotions and is popular with the masses. A line item veto will seperate what is needed verse the pork somebody is trying to ram down our throats. In order for the President to stop the useless pork, he has to veto the entire bill. Not popular but that i swhat happens. We heare about the main bill being vetoed. I would like to know what else has been smuggled into that bill!

Has anyone noticed where the SUPPORT for King George's Veto is coming from? Well. it's the grits for brains areas of America: Texas, WV, V…sort of get the picture?

The areas who need EDUCATION the MOST!

Posted By John Milwaukee, WI : November 13, 2007 4:36 pm

This is totally inappropriate. I am a born and bred Mountaineer, with a college degree. I am an engineer with a highly specialized medical device manufacturer, and I am as liberal as they come. Core beliefs: Live and let Live, help those that are in need, treat others as I would want to be treated. Let’s have no more name calling; it really has no place in this world.

My God, reading these comments one would come to the conclusion that Bush does not support funding any Health and Education programs. Get a grip!!!

I just wonder how these Bush bsshers would respond to knowing that some of their Democrat Congressional representatives supported some of the huge Defense appropriations for new weapons systems? I guess it's okay if the money comes to their districts.

I hope he continues to veto the health bill. I don't think I should have to take care of other people's families. If you brought the child into this world, then you should take care of them. If you cannot then you should give them to someone who can take care of them. End of story. I will not support any health bill accept for a universal one that includes ALL people. And only then if it does not increase taxes. If it increases taxes I say we already have healthcare, deal with it. To many people are bringing children into this world when they cannot take care of them. The world is crowded as it is. Don't bring a poor defenseless child into the world if you cannot take care of it. And I don't care what that health bill entails I guarantee it's geared towards children. All the laws passed on children in the past few years has done nothing but cause pain for other people. Do I care about children? Yes! But it should NOT be mandatory for me to help other peoples children.

"Trillions of dollars spent already on the Iraq War with virtually no success to show for it."

That is a common CNN line. There have been things to show about it. In fact things are starting to quiet down in Iraq. You notice the daily 'xxx' troops killed yesterday headlines have pretty much gone away. Problem is media outlets like cnn do not report on the good. You want to know what is really going on over there, go ask the troops what is going on. I talk to returning troops all the time and 99% of them want to shut CNN and the dems down for reporting on half(if that) the picture. I know it sales papers and keeps the ratings up…but how about some objective reporting.

I also love the…"only the uneducated support Bush" type comments in here…geez I'm from the south, I must be stupid…no wait…I got me a edmucation…I completed the 3rd grade…..give me a break..I completed 2 masters and I support Bush, how about you drop the steriotype comments…no wait the Dems think like that…I mean I served in the Air Force…Only poor uneducated people join the military…isn't that not Dem point of view?

"A war that was mismanaged from the begining, that is still being bungled"

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You make some interesting points, but is the war really STILL being bungled? By accounts, there appears to have been a turnaround taking place on the ground in Iraq. If credit's due, acknowledge it.

Cant wait to read all the Kool-aid drinking leftwing losers on here saying how bush doesnt care about kids or our health. Come on people lets hear it…..You people are really clueless…Hey left-wingers what happened to getting out of IRAQ??????Your party is spineless losers just look yourselves.

I hope he continues to veto the health bill. I don't think I should have to take care of other people's families. If you brought the child into this world, then you should take care of them. If you cannot then you should give them to someone who can take care of them. End of story. I will not support any health bill accept for a universal one that includes ALL people. And only then if it does not increase taxes. If it increases taxes I say we already have healthcare, deal with it. To many people are bringing children into this world when they cannot take care of them. The world is crowded as it is. Don't bring a poor defenseless child into the world if you cannot take care of it. And I don't care what that health bill entails I guarantee it's geared towards children. All the laws passed on children in the past few years has done nothing but cause pain for other people. Do I care about children? Yes! But it should NOT be mandatory for me to help other peoples children.

What makes me really angry is part of the bill included funding for autistic services in public schools. The number of children being diagnosed now is 1 out of 150. This country is raising a generation of autistic children and this "war" president doesn't care.

"War Spending is temporary. Entitlement programs never go away and become bloated with waste"

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Very well put, whether you support the the war effort, or not. Funny how folks decline to donate to certain charities because they feel the administative costs are too high. But, they don't have a problem throwing tons of money into Govt programs having enormous bureauocratic overhead costs. Anyone who's worked at the Federal level is very familiar with the "empire building" that goes on. And you're right…the Govt entitlement programs swell with age, and NEVER go away. Talk about a burden for our children and their children…we can't even figure out how to finance the ones we have now.

I long for the good old days. When "W" was back in Texas drinking booze and snorting coke.

"we must pressure the house and senate to raise taxes on the private sector of defense, the bankers lending the money to the gov't for the war, and of course the oil companies w/ the record setting profits because of the instability this warmonger has created! they are banking billions that we as taxpayers will be paying off for many decades, so at least those getting rich off this war will pay a larger share as they received the most benefit."

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Rather simplistic and paranoid isn't it, Chicken Little? Meanwhile, one of the left wing darlings, Al Gore, is about to become a venture capitalist….oh, the shame!!

Once again,, all the busch haters and kaos mongers get the first 50 spots and those who think first and talk after get pushed way down to the bottom where no-one bothers to read. This was a pork filled bill, 500 milion worth of stuffing,,, the veto makes the congress re-right bills and take out the pork to then submit a bill that can be voted in you hatemongers. If this bill was so great and powerful it WOULD have been veto proof as it stood. The mindless quick fingered opinions that are posted here are a example of what truelly needs to be fixed in this country. If there is money for education , it should be ear-marked to teach all you haters how to think rationaly and come up with your own original comments instead of the same old bandwagon comments

PS i really do believe in national security but i also believe there are other problems not just national security. I also believe that the government says they foiled terrorist plans just to look good but really didnt like any other event Oklamhoma City and others we knew about it long after it was all over with. also how is it if were in DEBT that the government can continue to write checks isnt that like gona bounce at the bank. Can i write a check that will bounce? maybe a new house or car?

Spend spend spend how can you spend so much and make tax cuts???? its like if i make 2000 a month but spend 3000 and secondly werent we suppose to be long done with this war after all we were suppose to liberate them not occupy its nice to see we can waste so much cash on a bs war and not educate or children and get health care to workers who cant offord expensive 500+ month insurance

you are a sorry dog bush in my opinion.

Hey James in Arizona, Bush's approval ratings are at 32%. He hasn't seen 40% since August of 2006. congress' approval ratings, depending on what poll you use, is anywhere from 19 - 28%. It doesn't look like the statistics are too far off between the two.

Despite peoples' disappointment in Congress, they appear to be smart enough to distinguish between Democratic efforts and Republican obstructionism. In the same period of time that Congressional approval fell through the floor, the peoples' Congressional preference for Democrats over Republicans rose by 5 percent. Last month people preferred Democrats to Republicans by 7 points and now, the gap is 12 percent (46-to-34 percent). How can we expect anything else when our decider in chief vetoes everything put before him.

I work for education and can tell you that there is very little support from the federal government for education. They impose ridiculous legislation like No Child Left Behind and yet no financial support for it. Education is not a socialist program. It is necessary for keeping up in a world market. At the rate we are going, not only will we be owned by China, but our workforce will all be Asian as well. Afterall, they value education!

"War spending is temporary…"

Tell me, when exactly is this war going to end? The spending on this war is going to be paid for the rest of my lifetime and I'm not even 30 years old yet. That's not temporary to me!

You want to talk pork, how about all these no bid contracts Bush handed out to his buddies. These companies have overcharged the gov't for all sorts of services and supplies that have cost us millions of dollars.

And for those who talk about the pork in the bill, don't act like Republicans are innocent of that! I'm sure if the Republicans were still in control, though Bush would have gladly signed off on the bill no matter what was in it.

George Bush's veto doesn't surprise me, after all, he vetoed two stem cell research bills and the S-Chip bill. His concern for those less fortunate is non-existant.

What I am disturbed about is that there appears to be many Republicans in both Houses who are as morally bankrupt as Bush.

War Spending is temporary. Entitlement programs never go away and become bloated with waste. Ever wonder how private schools can operate on less money per student than public schools? Keep that in mind please. "Your livelyhood" should not depend on government decisions.
Posted By Me, Omaha NE : November 13, 2007 5:55 pm

Of course we should look for waste in our budgets, by monitoring how we're spending our $ and making changes so that government agencies and programs run as efficiently and productively as possible. But there some things that only government can do effectively because of the size of a country's population and the inherent differences (class, income, education level, location, etc) among it's citizens. To think the private sector could manage the air traffic system or the federal highway system or trade regulation, etc effectively or honestly is short-sighted. Capitalism works but the business community is not the best suited advocate to represent a nation's citizens when it comes to civic and/or community matters. I need only point to our health care system as an example. Completely exploited for profit and serves corporate insurance companies first and citizens second. If at all really, ask the 45 million+ that are uninsured. Sure a universal system wouldn't be perfect in practice but nothing is. However it would be perfect in concept. A country as strong and rich as ours providing quality healthcare to all it's citizens, regardless of occupation, income, pre-existing condition, etc. I could live with starting clean with a morally and intellectually honest approach to something as important as healthcare and then working to combat the beaucratic red-tape and inefficiencies that will accompany a government run program. But the current situation and our given alternative to universal healthcare clearly doesn't work and can't be fixed in any sort of just way that could provide affordable, quality healthcare on an equal basis. Some call government programs like public education, entitlements. Well I call them rights. People in the United States should have a right to a quality, public education and should also have the right to quality, public healthcare. The US and our citizens would be better for it. Your livelihood does have everything to do with government and to think otherwise is being blind to reality. One need not think of that as a negative statement. Self-government, government by the people for the people was born out of the Age of Enlightment and is a positive thing. It really is a testament to human greatness. Democracy is worth nuturing and that is why we should elect intelligent, honest, experienced, and dedicated citizens. Government with such people running it could accomplish a lot and would inspire it's citizens to do better. A combination of a well run government and self-reliant citizenry working together instead of at odds is a goal worth shooting for. Let's hope we get there. Unfortunately we probably can't start down this path until January 2009, so vote wisely a year from now.

Has anyone considered the ramifications of illegal immigrants on our healthcare system? Such a strain has been put on it that we are in crisis, yet Bush refuses to do anything about the immigration issue. Thousands of people file in, and many terrorists themselves slip through the cracks into our country. How are we really protecting the citizens of America from Iraq? Shouldn't we be more concerned about our borders and the welfare of our citizens on our own soil?

I am absolutely amazed that there are still some people posting comments defending this failure of a President! I guess you can fool some of the people all of the time.

IMPEACH BUSH! HE CAN SPEND BILLIONS ON THOSE FRIGGIN WARS WHICH MARK MY WORDS "NOTHING GOOD WILL COME OUT OF" AND IGNORE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHEN I THINK OF WHAT CAN BE DONE W/ALL THAT MONEY HERE IN THIS COUNTRY IT MAKES ME SICK! IMPEACH BUSH!

Maybe if we just tell him we're at war with America, we could get some funding for these things.

Cut the pork.
Cut the pork.
Cut the pork.

Check out the Citizens Against Government Waste web site November 6 analysis of this bill:

http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=11096

Pork examples in this bill:

$3.7 million to the AFL-CIO.

$1,000,000 for Bismarck State College for an instrumentation and control training program for the energy industry, inserted by Sens. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) and Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), and Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.).

$500,000 for the Charter School Development Foundation in Las Vegas for the Andre Agassi College Preparatory Academy, inserted by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Rep. Shelley Berkeley (D-Nev.).

$250,000 for the Alaska Sealife Center in Seward for a marine ecosystem education program, sponsored by Senate appropriator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska).

If you really want your blood pressure to rise, check their website for the pork in the Defense bill….

First off cut the pork, the republicans pork and the democrats pork. Now when President Bush starts bashing the democrats on spending turn around and ask point blank, all this money you want for the wars (we are in 2 now) how do you plan to pay for them. It’s a fair question, you want billions of dollars, and how do you plan to pay for it. Don’t let up. I see many of you on these blogs complaining about how the democrats want to pay for god forbid, education and health but you offer no plan. We’ve have had 7 years of no plan except to burden your children, I don’t have any so I don’t really care all that much about your kids all that much if you want them to pay for it then stand up and say, let those brats in kindergarten pay for it.

Also the comment about private schools can do it for less and have better results well here’s a reality check for you. THEY PICK THEIR STUDENTS. They don’t take under privileged children, they don’t take risk students, and you won’t find a classroom full of kids from Oak Cliff, Texas or the North side of Minneapolis in a private school. So yes private schools will always do better, it’s the money

We need both Education and National Defense.

Bush vetoed the Education bill because it was $4 Billion higher than he wanted? Congress wants $606 Billion and Bush will allow $602 Billion? All Congress needs to do is cut $4 Billion worth of PORK from the bill? Yet these same Democrats will accuse Bush of running up huge deficits.

Bush Bashers: How much of the $1.1 Trillion discussed should be allocated to Education and Health and how much to National Defense? I'm sure you will have facts to support your numbers.

It's too bad CNN has to spin the Education Bill and the National Defense Bill being mutually exclusive. Classic Left-Wing Agenda Driven News!

Why doesn't CNN spin this as a President trying to get Congressional spending under control?

My wife is Estonian. Estonia was a USSR ruled nation. Their per capita income a few years ago was like $3000 a year. Now her relatives come here to buy cars, cameras, clothes, everything, because many of these things are 1/2 price here! I just went to Canada my US dollars were cheaper than Canadian dollars. I went to China and their infrastructure makes our roads, highways and cities look like they were built in the 18th century. My Estonian wife will get a fat government pension, free health care, 2 years of salary when she has children…for 30% tax. And this is a Soviet block country!!!!

The euro is much stronger than the dollar, going to the UK is a lesson in frugality. Everywhere I go I am treated as 2nd class because I am American and hated. We were the best, noblest nation on earth, and now we suck. Thanks, republican voters!

More of that famous compassion.

The only difference between the Republican led congress, and the Democratic led, is the fact that even though both parties added pork barrel spending to bills, only the Republicans bills were not vetoed because Bush is Republican. But now the Democrates are in power, all of a sudden Bush dusts off his Veto pen.

Kayla, Richmond, VA,

"People this is Your country and Bush is doing the best he can under the circumstances he was voted into."

Ummm … you mean the circumstances HE CREATED for HIMSELF with his repeated asinine decisions – during his first four years? Dubya is living proof that “bad-ass”, cowboy-inspired patriotism is NOT a substitute for critical thinking and comon sense.

"This article states the health and education was cut…did you ever stop to ask why it may have been veto?"

Umm … because he's cutting spending everywhere else after creating a record national debt by spending like a drunken sailor in a bordello for years? And he's doing it to pay for his TWO failed wars - that just HAPPEN to be costing WAY more than he (and his lap dogs) said it would?

"I cannot believe how many closed-minded people are in this country."

I can't believe that there's still people out there (like YOU) that support this Texas-sized screw-up! But I'm even more surprised that your proctologist hasn't found your head yet!

"I'm sorry but did everyone forget what happened in 2001…9/11 hellooooo…."

No. Then again I also haven't forgotten the DECADES of invasive foreign policy decisions that made us a target on 911, nor have I forgotten Dubya's negligence (giving 43 million to the Taliban and then GOING ON VACATION) during his first 9 months on the job that let it happen.

"The President took immediate action" …

IMMEDIATE ACTION? By staring blankly for several minutes after being notified of the attack? … and then waiting for a podium to be set up in front of a bunch of kids so he could scare the hell out of them with his confirmation of the attack?

"and has been dealing with it ever since and you all act like it should have been over the day 9/11 happened."

Or are you referring to his two failed wars vs third-world countries with 1/1000th the military we have that he's still "winning" FIVE years later?

"I understand families wnat their soldiers to come home, however, FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!!!"

No, it certainly isn't! Feel free to do your patriotic (Dubya-supporting)duty at the nearest recruitment center!

"not even a decade later, we have forgotten."

Nope. We remember …all of it: the guy who did it, who's still at large after your president PROMISED to get him "dead or alive", the WMDS-less Saddam, the BILLIONS of unaccounted for $, the misplaced and un-guarded ammo dumps, the thousands of dead U.S. troops, etc … which is why Dubya's approval rating is still below freezing.

You know who else hasn't forgotten 911? The 2 million Iraqis who've fled the country so they wouldn't have their heads and limbs "liberated" from their bodies and the relatives of tens of thousands of dead Iraqis that you patriotically consider "unavoidable collateral damage".

That being said, I'd like to now take this time to thank you for posting, as it allowed me to ruthlessly expose your abysmal IQ and correct you on this public forum.

If you look at the Constitution and origional government the only two departments that are constitutionaly required are the Defense Dept. to provide a strong defense and Treasury Dept. for a common currency. All the other Deptment with their good intentions are entitlements since they were orgionally the States Rights.

"If he was a Prime Minister of Canada and the Cabinet couldn't put him out of office the Collective Canadian Population would do the job one way or another. We'd be storming Government House in Ottawa demanding his removal and we'd be on Capitol Hill untill we succeeded. "

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As I understand, Tricia, Canada originally was a Province of France until it was ceceded to England in 1763 - The Treaty of Paris. And even today there is a heavy presence of French-Canadians … carrying forward the fighting spirit of the french…

But, honey, this isnt the Bastille. Pitch forks, torches, and mob-rule aren't the way we Americans handle our political disagreements. In our country - committing High Crimes and Misdemeanors is the charge that must be made in Congress to being impeaching a President.

If you have a problem with US Politics and want to know WHY President Bush hasn't been impeached, I would offer one of two reasons:

1. The President hasn't committed any crime warranting impeachment.

or

2. The Congressional leaders are incapable of organizing ANY hearings (presuming there were ANY evidence of said crime)

I personally think it's reason #1 - as the Democrats have never been shy about prosecuting witch-hunts in our country.

He does have plans to invade Iran prior to the election!

500 million in pork you say? In a 606 billion dollar bill? That comes out to .09 percent of the bill. But hey, continue with you talking points of it being LOADED with pork.

Right on Bob - less than 1% of the bill was earmarks. We've wasted $1.6 Trllion on wars - and we are worse-off than when we started.

This administration is either 100% incompetent, or just pure evil. I vote for the second one.

I don't know why anyone is suprised. Bush has consistently been against increased spending in the areas of education and healthcare while the Pentagon's budget just grows larger and larger. He's a neo-con if there ever was one. Even Reagan never dumped the amount of money Bush has into the military. This has been a tragic 7 years for this country and I can only hope that come November'08 this country elects a leader that truely reflects the values of the majority.

As a Canadian looking South of the Border, I can't understand how Bush is still in office given that so many Americans are against his Policies, Strategies, and Administrative Decisions. I can't believe there is no recourse available for Congress or Citizens to immobilize a President that continues to act against the will of his people time and time again!

If he was a Prime Minister of Canada and the Cabinet couldn't put him out of office the Collective Canadian Population would do the job one way or another. We'd be storming Government House in Ottawa demanding his removal and we'd be on Capitol Hill untill we succeeded.

Trillions of dollars spent already on the Iraq War with virtually no success to show for it. And now Bush is going to pour billions more into the project! And in the process make major cuts funding programs providing needed services to the American tax payers!

Government for the people, by the people? It doesn't look like it to me.

It might be defending America but is it working?Since the onset of the so-called war on terror, terror incidents around the world have increased rather than diminished. While most of the people who engage in terrorism are Muslims, they are driven primarily by political issues such as the plight of Palestinians and the US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq rather than by Islamic fundamentalism.The Iraq invasion and the not so recent Israeli destruction of southern Lebanon with US support are likely to have given rise to more resistance fighters – also called terrorists – than any mosque could.
There is no doubt at all that some terrorists, particularly in al Qaeda, have no cause to speak of other than to kill and terrify.
There are also many ordinary people who support extremists out of a sense of injury or religious kinship.
There are certainly many people in the Middle East and Muslims all over the world who feel that they are the unfair targets of a Western conspiracy to disrespect their religion, meddle in their nation’s affairs, and steal their oil.
The conduct of the US has, with the exception of rhetoric, done nothing to reassure them. As a matter of fact, it has done quite the opposite.
The Muslim world sees this as a continuation of the West’s agenda of oppression and suppression of their religion, an invasion and violation of their identity. Bad feelings are entrenched, a generation of extremists is born, the ranks of moderates are depleted and the world becomes that much more insecure.
When al Qaeda started bombing the world, it was a straight forward war between the sane world and a mad killer. Subsequent developments have shifted the boundaries, blurred the combatants and made the fight much more dangerous.
The US preaches democracy but does not expect the people of the world to express their free will. When the Palestinians elected Hamas in a free and fair election, the US had a problem with that.
To many in US, the idea of a purist Islamic state is repugnant and completely unacceptable. But if the people of a nation have taken the decision to live that way and are willing to blow us all up to bits in an effort to enforce that right, doesn’t it make sense to allow them to make their own bed and lie in it?
THe US and its partners have pursued counter-terrorism measures that target people like bin Laden or Al-Zarqawi as if their capture or killing would make the threat disappear.
As a result, there has not been much progress in addressing the political, social and economic sources of discontent in societies that have given rise to terrorists.
We'll end up with a very dangerous,polluted world and more less-educated population.

we must pressure the house and senate to raise taxes on the private sector of defense, the bankers lending the money to the gov't for the war, and of course the oil companies w/ the record setting profits because of the instability this warmonger has created! they are banking billions that we as taxpayers will be paying off for many decades, so at least those getting rich off this war will pay a larger share as they received the most benefit.

War Spending is temporary. Entitlement programs never go away and become bloated with waste. Ever wonder how private schools can operate on less money per student than public schools? Keep that in mind please. "Your livelyhood" should not depend on government decisions.

To Kayla from Richmond, Your right, freedom isn't free, and when 9/11 happened I was glad to be in a country that was united together to help people we might never get to know, and when we invaded Afganistan I was united with the President (even though I didn't vote for him and am glad to say never would) I was waiting on my country to ask me to sacrifice (even just a little) since we were asking our soldiers to make sacrifices, like you said freedom isn't free. But then something strange happened, my President said the best way I can help my fellow countrymen, was to shop, gave me a $300 tax rebate to do so, then we started a war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. A war that was mismanaged from the begining, that is still being bungled, and when our soldiers return injured and suffering we don't take care of them, we send them to run down hospitals, leave them to fall though cracks waiting on red tape. No one thinks our soldiers fighting in this war are dishonorable for doing so, soldiers do what they are told, no choice in that, however when they are used for dishonorable purposes that tends to make most people mad.

Lowering taxes and keeping a check on spending is good, great in fact, but you can not hand out tax cuts hand over fist and ask for a huge increase in the defense budget, doesn't work, and cuting social programs to fund that defense budget isn't going to make people happy either, especially when it's not going to our defense, it's going to companies that have frauded our country, to contractors that recieve pay far in excess of what our soldiers recieve (while harming our soldiers image over there putting them more in harms way, to oil companies who get goverment subsidies to produce oil and gas for us to consume (while hiking prices at home to drain the american wallet too)while making obscene profits.
Cutting health and education is not helping anyone in this country, but adding to the defense budget does it helps the cronies of a man who seems like his goal is a weak and stupid citizenry.

I don't know this Kayla person from Richmond is still living at the time when 9/11 happened. She writes….

"You claim the President only cares about the war, yet you people do the same thing then have the audacity to complain that our president is not right!!! I'm sorry but did everyone forget what happened in 2001…9/11 hellooooo…. The President took immediate action and has been dealing with it ever since and you all act like it should have been over the day 9/11 happened. I understand families wnat their soldiers to come home, however, FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!!!"

Hello! Kayala, wake up from your FOX and Rush world and stop listening to Cheney.
*Saddam and Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11
*Bin Laden is still sitting and laughing at this president and Cheney
*People at home are loosing their homes
*41 million un-insured No health coverage
*our good paying jobs are going away
*Rich are getting very rich
*this country ranks at the bottom in education
*we don't need to spend billions on big warheads to fight jihadists
*this freedom you talk about to Iraq is very expensive
*Iraqis want us to leave

Start watching world news, BBC or NPR which are not propaganda machine like FOX.

Here's the bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.03043:

How in the world could congress have a high approval rating–they are passing legislation that their constituents elected them for. The people have spoken, but Bush, admittedly, isn't listening. It is truly sad. Has anybody noticed that the major regions that support Bush are the predominantly poor, unhealthy, uneducated southern states? Too bad that these folks are unable to realize that supporting this fool only perpetuates their plight. Wake up America!!!!!!!

I wish I could invent the perfect politician……***POOOF***(Ron Paul appears).

There's pork in everything that comes out of Washington. Every representative there is fighting to bring home the bacon to their own state. If Americans don't think the other bill he did sign didn't have some pork in it–well they certainly don't know much about our nation and how it works. Fact is, he's only got so much money to spend, and he'd much rather spend it on the welfare of the corporations in hope of some trickle down, than to invest in the futures of our children, and families, who may not have adequate access to education and adequate healthcare. And those necessities don't seem to be trickling down from corporate America do they. Thanks again GW…again, please stop trying to help and just leave us alone!!

remember, bush needs all this money to give to all of his cronies, who have been the real reason behind this war. ie: oil companies, the carlyle group, halliburton, blackwater, etc, etc……

I'm convinced that most if not all bills that go before congress has lots of pork but a prison museum, a sailing school taught aboard a catamaran and a Portuguese-as-a-second-language program attached to a "Health and Education bill seem a little excessive to me.

1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS IS THE ESTIMATE BY 2009..WHAT GOOD THAT MONEY COULD DO FOR SO MANY PEOPLE..INSTEAD IT GOES TO WAR..DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

Is the Democrats estimate you mean. They actually accuse the war of making oil MORE expensive while at the same time saying the President started the war on behalf of Haliburton so they could get at the oil. Does this make any sense? Accusing the war of being corrupt and increasing oil supplies while at the same time inflating the oil price? Somebody needs to go back to an economics class. The war, if successful, could provide a stable ally in a huge oil producer in a huge oil region. If that happens, the war could practically pay for itself, not the other way around where we suggest it costs twice as much. LMAO what a joke. Anyone with a degree should read right through this crap.

I hate the republican led media.

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That's the funniest things I've ever read..ok at least it's the funniest thing I've read today. What on earth were you thinking?

"1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS IS THE ESTIMATE BY 2009..WHAT GOOD THAT MONEY COULD DO FOR SO MANY PEOPLE..INSTEAD IT GOES TO WAR..DEATH AND DESTRUCTION."

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I'd be willing to bet the same was asked during WWII. Look at Japan and Europe today. How wrong they were then…and TIME will only tell if they are wrong today.

The my way or the highway attitude is destroying this country and the lives of its people. If we do not get ourselves together than divided we will fall.

Bush is a liberal. If the liberals would just sit down with him, he'd probably spend as much as they want, just like NCLB.

But, their hatred of them keeps them from consummating a marriage with a liberal after their own heart.

The measure missed being veto-proof by only three votes in the House.

Given how many Republican congressional seats are open come election time, are those quacks I'm starting to hear coming out of his bill? (pun intended)

Six Years of record breaking earmarks by Bush and his GOP congress went unnoticed by you GOP types but now there important! WOW, how hypocritical can you get.

You folks that want tanks instead of education, well I guess we know how much schooling you received!

It is too bad that the democrats sent Bush the defense budget at the same time as the health and education bill. Talk about lousey poker players. I would have held back the defense bill (along with the war approriations funding) until he signed the SCHIP as well as the health and education bill and if he vetoed them then I would have told him no defense or war approriations bills until he was willing to compromise on the others.

All the republicans want to spend money on is expensive war machines and defense pork barrel projects and tax cuts to their wealthy friends. The only way to end the endless war is not to fund it. Then stick to your guns (and develop a spine) while the republicans hurled accusations of not supporting the troops. The best support the troops can get now is to bring them home.

w is such an ass. money to bomb babies in Iraq but none to provide health care to babies in america

BUSH HATES AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM HATE AMERICA TOO.

People this is Your country and Bush is doing the best he can under the circumstances he was voted into. This article states the health and education was cut…did you ever stop to ask why it may have been veto? Maybe the bill was not as great as it sounds, maybe there were other stipulations that caused him to veto it. I cannot believe how many closed-minded people are in this country. You claim the President only cares about the war, yet you people do the same thing then have the audacity to complain that our president is not right!!! I'm sorry but did everyone forget what happened in 2001…9/11 hellooooo…. The President took immediate action and has been dealing with it ever since and you all act like it should have been over the day 9/11 happened. I understand families wnat their soldiers to come home, however, FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!!! It comes with a price and those men and women who serve and protect us are honorable for doing so because why they are out fighting to keep this country together, we, at home, are slowly tearing it apart. When 9/11 hit our country, I was proud to be an American because we all seemed to ban together and show our pride…not even a decade later, we have forgotten.

It goes to show that I'm actually afraid to sign my name to a comment on George Bush above just how screwed up we've become as a country. The perception is that they're out to persecute people that don't like them, and it's sadly probably correct. We have no idea if they're wiretapping us, if they're keeping files. We don't know.

I recommend this book Shock Doctrine and the short film at this link as well. It's by Alfonso Cauron, the director of Children of Men. It's brilliant and worth a few minutes. Here's the link:

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

Bush. Bush. Bush. Thank you for permanently sinking your party. It and you have become the agents of greed, fear, war, and ignorance. You're backward and you're dangerous and soon you'll be irrelevant.

If only they'd impeach and imprison you, it's be a good day.

Isn't it worth investing in human capital as these are the people that will be saddled with the debt from the war? Increasing productivity is key in increasing the GDP

Let us put the blame where it belongs.Bush would sign this bill if were to fund Health & Education,but Congress insist on putting their pet projects into these Bills.Why is so hard for them to realize the fact that sending bills with non related issues isn't making Bush look bad,but is showing the fact that Congress is not working for us.It's time these people make more responsible decisions rather then waste our tax payers dollars.Regardless of how you feel about Bush and the war,the bottom line is that Congress has the power to make the final decision.

What's next???? Forget teaching Math, English and Science. Instead we will teach Bush-approved home schooling classes, "Weapons Use 101″ — "Foraging for Food and Shelter 202″ and "Medicinal Plants You Can Grow At Home (elective).

Your old school is now a demilitarized zone and refuge for the curable but too poor homeless "have nots".

What do you expect from Bush and Five Deferement Dick….eventually they will burn in Hell!

Bush bashers should check the voting records of their own Congressional Reps before they run their mouth on the Defense Spending Bill GW signed. How many expensive weapon systems did your rep push through to benefit your district? My God, some may EVEN be Democrat! If so, you should vote them out of office…shouldn't you?

1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS IS THE ESTIMATE BY 2009..WHAT GOOD THAT MONEY COULD DO FOR SO MANY PEOPLE..INSTEAD IT GOES TO WAR..DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

Has anyone noticed where the SUPPORT for King George's Veto is coming from? Well. it's the grits for brains areas of America: Texas, WV, V…sort of get the picture?

The areas who need EDUCATION the MOST!

Hey…at least he wears a lapel pin.

Its like throwing meat in a school of piranha's - (now moron flavored too) - what happened to the old school Democrats who listened to JFK - when he said "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" - the bill was vetoed because its full of pork - (i.e. when Hillary and Chuck pushed the SCHIP HealthCare bill with a cool million for a Woodstock museum) - if 606 billion is good…why not 20 trillion…yeah…throwing money at problems solves….well…nothing….can you people think….just alittle??

I love the republican's who have responsed. Hardly an ounce of info. to provide - just more spewing of hatred for those who - GASP - have a brain and use it. Call me a "liberal looser" all you want - come 2008..YOU will be the loosers an the rest of us will CELEBRATE!!!

I'm sorry - one stinkin' 6.3 billion dollar plane is NOT as important as our education or healthcare.

The more economic harm that Bush causes the US, the harder it will be to clean up and the better his party will look when a Democratic president can't pull it out of the fire.

Also, every time he pulls stunts like these, he claims that the democrats can't compromise and it makes congress (with our current democratic majorities) look bad. This is simple strategy.

"Having expensive Joint Strike Fighters and F-22 Raptors and such are good investments, but NOT at the expense of our children and our health. Who is going to fly and repair those vehicles if people aren't getting proper educations?"

If there WAS proper education we wouldn't have any high school grads being sucked into flying and repairing those ridiculous machines.

He is spending so much money on war but when it comes Education, Children Health of American, he vetoed.Whateverearmarks in bill but it would be much better than war spending.
In his 8yrs.. it is only war spending which will be in trillion in few years.
Who gets benefits ….

I couldn't even read the article! I have never seen a more clueless look in my life!!!!

"Got any pretzels?"

This guy is going to keep the war on HIGH until he's out of office–even the terrorists know he's an idiot!

& if he opposes health & education, I don't know who he expects to fight in the future—since youth can see he doesn't even take care of veterans! Democrats want a smart, healthy America, where as Bush just wants to protect his own oil tycoon behind and keep people sick & stupid so they won't be able to focus on his mass destruction. Go, Bush! Let's vote him in for another term! How 'bout that? Let's change the rules for Bush! Yes, Republicans! Let's do it! You endorsed him for not one, but TWO terms! Let's see how many more soldiers will perish with a third term.

Anyone notice that Bush never vetoed any pork when the Republicans controlled Congress?

The more Bush vetoes, the more Congress has to work together in a bipartisan manner. Doesn't take Einstein to figure that one out..

Steve in Huntington - commenting without knowing the full score?

the full bill is at michelle malkin's site under Read the Bill. Maybe if you actually spent a few min. reading the bill, you'd see the usual pork barrel spending loaded into this bill.

How shocking, everyone blames Bush for not spending tens of billions on earmarks that are all over the bill! The extra money is not for education or health, but pork barrel projects if you actually look, so how about some balanced reporting from CNN rather then a one sided Bush bash?
Posted By Felicity, Woodbridge, VA : November 13, 2007 2:43 pm

Give me a break, "If you actually look". Do you think anyone believes you when you write something like that. I doubt that you actually looked at the bill Bush vetoed before adding your comment to this discussion. Surely there were some pork items in there but surely there are some in the Pentagon spending increase that he approved and you don't seem to be upset about those. Your comments are a perfect example of what Bush supporters often do. They attempt to change the argument by using petty misdirection in hopes of getting people to discuss something other than the issue at hand. What Bush did by vetoing a Health and Education bill was shameful, revealed his tactics and point to his adminstration's priorities. Unfortunately these priorities are not in line with a majority of the nation's citizens and as the last 6 1/2 years have proven, are detrimental to America's well being. A critique of the President's actions and priorities is not a 'bash' and saying so is immature and fuedal. Most people are seeing through such rhetoric these days. People are unhappy because of the President's decisions (64% disapproval rating - Wash Post 11/1/07) and not because they hate him. What people do hate is that Bush continues to choice things in his political best interest rather than the national best interest. Things are not good right now and to deny that our current situation is somehow related to the choices Bush has made during his 2 terms is a 'bash' on common sense and really one's own interests in the end.

I live in Texas, too and work as an engineer. I pass all of those Gallerias - that I can't afford to shop in, breath all of the air that is rated some of the most poluted in the country - after Bush gutted the environmental laws while Governor when Huston's air quality was rated as excellent, hear about the schools struggling for money - after Bush gutted funding for schools, see the, literally, millions of children who can't see a doctor because of Bush cutting the funding of health care for poor children. Oh yeah, Texas is doing just great folks, no need to worry about us.

Anyway. Bush is doing what he promised..he's vetoing spending bills full or pork. The Dems are doing what they said they WOULDN'T do, adding earmarks and pork to spending bills.

So here we see Bush telling the truth and the Dems not telling the truth.

Also why is everyone calling the war illegal? To be illegal that would mean Bush went to war without the permission of Congress….I don't recall that happening…you guys must know something no one else does.

Also do some math, Bush hasn't sent Trillions and Trillions on the war.

Anyway to sum it up…Bush promised to veto pork, the Dems promised to cut the pork….so who's telling the truth here?

To those who like to talk about pork-barrel spending: do you think this is something new to democrats? Bush never vetoed a single bill when Republicans ran congress, but NOW he has to guard America against such practices. Also, do you people not think there is excess funding in Iraq spending bills? So much of that money simply "vanishes" into the quagmire that is Iraq, which is being run as much by private entities as it is our government. I'm an American, but honestly, I'm thinking about moving. Europe is looking pretty good right about now.

2,200 earmarks in the bill. A grand way to end the culture of corruption.

Yes, republicans you are right. The administration does not want to over spend. Just in case you have not been following the news, our debt is over $16 trillion dollars. He will spend billions of dollars a day on an illegal war that has displaced over 3 million Irag's and killed many, many thousands of innocent people, but they cannot fund education and health for our children.
He and his administration are also destroying the Constitution of the United States with all their illegal activities.
Oh yes, we must cut taxes so that the top 1% does not have to pay taxes and the middle class has to pick up the slack. You need to do some research to find out how the richest people pay less taxes than anyone.
If we donot take care of our people in this country and do not care about them, we are in for a big shock. As Americans we need to wake up and be extremely concerned about what is going on and stop worrying about "reality shows"!!!

Do we need to spend so much money on war, which is not good for us?Oil price is High, War spending may go in Trilion $$$$$$$$$$$,and Bush is cutting the funds on America future like, education and children health.
Whatever earmarks in the bill, but would be better than war funding.

Bush is the worst president ever. He loves war and does not care about the citizens of the Usa. ALL Republicans should be voted out of office, they are traitors to the country. This is obvious. IMPEACH!

Look at what Clinton crime family has to say…..

"Hey you loser libs, Bush has finally got it right. Stop spending our money, reduce taxes and cut social programs they do not work"

Posted By The Clinton Crime family,DC : November 13, 2007 2:18 pm

I do not know who the real person is. But I guess, he must be either a lobbyist for Saudi group (which I doubt) or an ignorant who just listens Rush and watches FOX. Look at the oil prices, no-bid military contracts to GOP contributors, software business to Neil Bush who supplied faulty software to schools partnering with Saudi group. And you will know why Bush is funding more and more to military programs than to the education. Clinton lied, but no one died. But when Bush lied, 4000 died and 1 trilion buried.

I love all of you dubya defenders and your faulty logic. Let's see, trying to balance the budget? HAH! The money he has asked for to fund our adventure in Iraq is orders of magnitude more than all of the domestic spending for the poor and education he has and has tried to cut put together, not to mention the tax cuts that have pushed the national debt over $9 TRILLION. If you were to spend $1 million per day, it would take you 2, 739.73 years to spend $1 trillion. And to think, it was around $4 trillion AND BEING PAID DOWN when this idiot took over.

Attached pork? Don't even go there, the honor of attaching the most pork to bills is currently held by a Republican.

This was simply the action of a petulant child (dubya) who didn't get his way and refuses to even consider negotiating with the other guys to find a compromise. And then he turns around and blames the Democrats for not getting anything passed? The height of hubris is rampant in the White House. If only they would impeach this guy and Darth Vader . . .

Bush's approval rating is 31%.

Congressional approval is 22% but Democrats in Congress have a 43% approval rate.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/26/poll.congress/index.html?iref=newssearch

As usual, the only thing you Bush supporters do well is spread dis-information

"President Bush's approval rating - 40%

Congresses approval rating - 18%

Yeah - you Bush-Bashers keep up the howling. At least the rest of America has a sense of "the problem".
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If ANYONE can produce a legitimate poll showing that Bush's approval rating is 40%, please do so. Zoghby Poll says it's 24%.

The approval rating of Congress is awful. However, honesty requires noting that it is the REPUBLICANS who have LOWERED the average the most since overall Democrats rate higher in Congress.

"the problem" is HYPOCRISY.

Republicans in control of Congress - 0 vetoes from Bush.

The People vote many Democrats into Congress in response.

Democrats in control of Congress - 5 (or more) vetoes from Bush.

If the Voters put these Democratic congressmen/women in office, why not let them do what they think is right? Obviously the voters think they will make better decisions that the Republicans that were ousted.

Also, the congress' approval rating may be low, but that is largely in part because Bush ties their hands whenever they try to put forward a responsible bill.

Come 2009, when we have a Democrat for a President, I project approval rating for both the President and the Congress will soar.

ABOUT TIME BUSH WIELDED THE VETO PEN. THE DEMS ARE RUINING THIS COUNTRY. TIME FOR HARRY AND NAN TO BE BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE. THESE DO NOTHING DEMS CANT SPEND ENOUGH MONEY. NO PROGRAM WILL EVER BE CUT. SPEND SPEND SPEND. HILLARY'S MANTRA.

"Not to gang up on Mike Fr Houston but I also work a lot in TX and it's one galleria after another; lots of new construction; homes and shopping centers, restaurants and stores. Texas has MONEY. Plano is the entrepeneur capital of the COUNTRY . What are you talking 'bout?"

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Laura, you mean the sky ISN'T falling!

People we get what we paid for. Texas kept telling what he was capable of. Stop acting so surprised, it no need to get in an uproar about it. This is his 7th year of his presidency stop the madness. This is just another day in the life of America. All these people coming out of the woodwork getting upset about what GW does should be quiet. Remember he tricked his way into office in 2000 shame on him, 2004 he won by a landslide shame on us (I got the saying right).Hopefully this situation to be more thoughtful in our voting choices.

He wouldnt be vetoing this if it was a plan to provide medical care to people in Iraq - where he and all republican should go to live.

500 million in pork you say? In a 606 billion dollar bill? That comes out to .09 percent of the bill. But hey, continue with you talking points of it being LOADED with pork.

Ever notice there's always the defense of "earmarks" but no clarification of what those earmarks are?? If they're so significant, they would be openly debated. There is no way to justify these type of cuts/vetoes when the rich have tax breaks and we're pouring so much money into war. What does it take to get impeachment?? Where's Monica when we really need her??

IMPEACH NOW! THIS MAN AND HIS MADNESS HAS DESTROYED AMERICA. LET'S HOPE THAT EDWARDS CAN BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THE AMERICAN DREAM AND FIX OUR SHATTERED COUNTRY.

I hope he continues to veto the health bill. I don't think I should have to take care of other people's families. If you brought the child into this world, then you should take care of them. If you cannot then you should give them to someone who can take care of them. End of story. I will not support any health bill accept for a universal one that includes ALL people. And only then if it does not increase taxes. If it increases taxes I say we already have healthcare, deal with it. To many people are bringing children into this world when they cannot take care of them. The world is crowded as it is. Don't bring a poor defenseless child into the world if you cannot take care of it. And I don't care what that health bill entails I guarantee it's geared towards children. All the laws passed on children in the past few years has done nothing but cause pain for other people. Do I care about children? Yes! But it should NOT be mandatory for me to help other peoples children.

BILLIONS FOR DEFENSE BUT NOT ONE DIME FOR SOCIALISM!

"This is so disgusting. Beyond disgusting, really. How the Republican Party can claim it's "pro-family" and "pro-life" when it supports spending money on killing Iraqis instead of saving the lives of Americans with urgent medical care is beyond me."

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Typical misrepresentation of fact from the Bush-bashers. The Defense Spending Bill that was signed did not include operations in Iraq!

Not to gang up on Mike Fr Houston but I also work a lot in TX and it's one galleria after another; lots of new construction; homes and shopping centers, restaurants and stores. Texas has MONEY. Plano is the entrepeneur capital of the COUNTRY . What are you talking 'bout?

President Bush's approval rating - 40%, Congresses approval rating - 18%

Apparently some of you think this is a way to justify "W". Remember congress is comprised of republicans, democrats and independents.

Wake up America!

Hey Bush-haters– do some research on this before you start rambling. The Democrats are trying to pack way too much pork into their bills. Also, did anybody else notice a tad bit of bias in that story (sarcasm intended)?

Posted By Brad, the great state of Texas : November 13, 2007 1:58 pm

Pack all the pork you want in these bills. At least at the end of the day we'll have something to show for it. Unlike the billions and billions and billion of dollars we throw down the black hole known as Iraq. I'd take a bridge to nowhere over a bridge being blown up in Iraq anyday.

Spend, spend, spend democrats. Lets take care of the poor people with 8 kids on welfare or give them free medical. They know where the free meal ticket is but when it came to free condoms they were to lazy to get off their butts to walk to the health clinic. That's is what is wrong with the people of this nation, they depend on the gov't for everything.

Mike from Houston, I've live about 2 hours from you most of my life– I have never see anything resembling a Third World country in our state! Stop trying to mischaracterize us to all the San Francisco lefties who spew Bush hate, like you just did.

Only a heartless traitor would do this, and only a dictator would get away with it, if this is what you want America keep up with your policy of apathy.
Impeach!!! Vote for Dr. Ron Paul: Hope for America.

You people are so gullible. Democrats loaded the bill with Pork Spending, projects including: a prison museum, a sailing school taught aboard a catamaran and a Portugese-as-a-second-language program," WE DON'T NEED THESE PROGRAMS. They are a waste of money, this was supposed to be an Education and Health Bill. But Congress laced the bill with wasteful spending to please voters back home. That's how you buy votes. The vast majority of people are simply ignorant and don't know this. I guarantee you, if Congress turned in the same bill, minus the 2000 earmarks/pork programs. The Bill would be approved immediately.

Its hilarious to me that the pro-Bush camp has been responding to this story by attacking the 'pork-barrel' spending in this education bill. As if Bush and his trillions of dollars to defense contractors is somehow not 'pork-barrel'? The whole Iraq war as far as I'm concerned has been one giant piece of pork-barrel which feeds his defense dept. cronies. At least the democratic pork-barrel legislation is not going to kill 300,000 people!

Go Bush! Expose the Democrat Congress for the hyprocrits they are. They promised fiscal responsibility during the last election cycle and what do they do…submit a Health and Educ Spending Bill loaded with earmarks and pork. Give em hell Bush!!!

This is so disgusting. Beyond disgusting, really. How the Republican Party can claim it's "pro-family" and "pro-life" when it supports spending money on killing Iraqis instead of saving the lives of Americans with urgent medical care is beyond me.

Kucinich 2008

President Bush's approval rating - 40%

Congresses approval rating - 18%

Yeah - you Bush-Bashers keep up the howling. At least the rest of America has a sense of "the problem".

I hate the republican led media. Why do they not report the actual bill number? Are they scared that we the DUMB American public may actually look up what they are doing? We get closer and closer to Imperialism everyday.