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why is everyone avoiding addressing giuliani: racist rule over new york communities of color?

Make farming a viable way of life here in the United States. With all the wasteful spending in the government by BOTH sides, how can you honestly tell me that taking money away from farmers is the first place to cut the fat? And yes, I would rather the AMERICAN farmer have a job than the AFRICAN farmer if it actually came to that.

Posted By J Houston, TX : November 13, 2007 11:04 am

You do realize that the average farming family in this country recieves about $700 worth of subsidies. The government gives out subsidies to dead farmers! http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d071137t.pdf
But its not like its the governments money, they just take it from those who earn it doing something productive for a living.

Are you guys censoring again? Didn't you like the remark about outsourcing CNN jobs if we get into just one more "free trade agreement" with a third world country?

Liberals say they don't want military action in Darfur/The Congo. So, why not look at economic solutions/ trade? What do they want in Africa?

In this post 9/11 world we have to protect Israel, because 9/11 taught us that 9/11 was...Israel gave me money.. 9/11 9/11 9/11.. Thank You.. oh yeah and 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11.. I wish I was Israeli.. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

Yeah I agree with George...America can't even get its own people fed and given proper healthcare, yet alone worry about other nations.

Gasoline prices have doubled since the 90's, healthcare and housing cost have also skyrocketed. The cost of living is getting so bad – that most Americans are barely getting by living paycheck to paycheck.

Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House...honest to God just think about it. Scary times...

the problem with Africa is much greater than trade. it goes back to Europe colonizing the land. from that era on, the racial and religious peoples of the lands were supported by one European government or another. this helped to divide the land and the peoples. when Europe began to pull out, the people they were supporting were left in a vacuum and a power struggle began as the people who were oppressed fought back. this is a huge factor in the African problems of today. lets build roads so that the people who can produce goods to sell can get it to markets. start building their internal commerce and things may change.

also, what resource does the world value greatly and is not in abundance in Africa. OIL. hence Americas and the worlds great interest in the middle east.

Rudy Giuliani as President of the United States, "honest to God, just step back and think about it." But then again...the current administration has lowered the bar considerably.

John Weinbrecht
Portland, OR

Kathy, Wooster, OH

I understand your point. Rudy continuously dressing up in women's clothes is way past the point of humor.

Can you see him trying to stand up to Iran, Russia or China? They would have zero respect for him as a president.

Problem is, he is running as a republican and history shows they will vote for any idiot Fox News and Rush Limbaugh tells them to.

Even more than trading, the United States and Europe need to be seriously investing in Africa for moral and political reasons.

On the moral side, we need to do something to boost Africa's economy and promote cooperation among its nations. A strengthened coalition, something like the European Union, would be a big step toward stabilizing and raising up that impoverished continent. There is a lot of potential there.

On the political side, China is spreading its influence in Africa, and the West should do something to counter that.

take your pick:
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Everything Giuliani says and does is wrong. Pro-war, Pro-abortion, Pro-gay rights, Pro-illegal immigrants...do republicans even know what he stands for? We cannot take over the world simply because 16 guys took over 4 plains.

Hey Rudy,

Everyone knows that Africa's problems stem from 'industrialized nations' refusal to do business with African countries. This is not news!

Every president dems and republicans say that during the campaign. But once in office they couldn't care less about really developing a strategy of investing or trading with African countries.

We can trade with the most corrupt and oppressive communist regimes on the planet but no one has ever nor will ever trade with these poor African countries.

They need trade and investments just like we do with India and China, (who will own us in a couple of decades by the way).

Giuliani has no clue when it come to subjects beyond his narrow range of interests – particularly foreign policy issues. If it weren't for 9/11 he would never be considered a serious candidate.

Just what we need. More so called 'free trade' with yet another third world economy. As if enough jobs haven't been shipped to India and China in the last 6 or 7 years. Now we can now send some to Africa. Maybe there's some jobs at CNN that can be outsourced!

Or ensure that disease is spread worldwide and not contained.

Terry, we need to sit down for a cup of coffee sometime.

Wayne, I somehow get the feeling that you're going to bash Guliani (and all Republicans, as evidenced by your comments on the other blogs I've seen) regardless of what they say or do. But to paint him as a man trying to profit from the deaths of others is over the line–he made money speaking to audiences because his strength & resilience on Sept. 11 were nothing short of inspirational to a nation trying to come to terms with tragedy.

Regarding Africa and AIDS, I try hard to not be pessimistic about the USA helping to resolve their plight. When you consider the corruption plaguing African governments, along with the myths surrounding HIV (for example, the notion that having sex with a virgin can get rid of AIDS), I don't think we can make much progress eradicating HIV until Africans take charge of it. Stop waiting for America to take responsibility for all the world's troubles!

Oh right. The U.S. can help other countries take care of themselves? We're not even doing a good job taking care of our own people.

Um, Rudy? Africa doesn't have anything worth trading for. The country is a cesspool and money pit, so your stupid idea of trading with them is another really dumb one. Give it up, you tool.

Trade–like with China? More double-speak, what he is really saying is: "cheap labor". It's really a hard stretch to expect us to believe that future economic exploitation will reduce HIV. Yes it will raise the overall standard of living to a subsistence level (mabye) or perhaps it will be the liberal health benefits U.S. corporations will offer the people of the African continent? If he means we need to get them on a paying basis and off of foreign aid–I'm all for it. But like most of his ideas–his proposals are too far-fetched and simplistic to be taken very seriously. But it does make a good sound bite–don't look for any meat.

Africa!?....How about working on issues here in America first!! Africa????

Does Giuliani propose getting rid of the agricultural subsidies that cost American taxpayers money and

Make farming a viable way of life here in the United States. With all the wasteful spending in the government by BOTH sides, how can you honestly tell me that taking money away from farmers is the first place to cut the fat? And yes, I would rather the AMERICAN farmer have a job than the AFRICAN farmer if it actually came to that.

And getting a clue will help Giuliani!

Will someone please tell these politicians that they work for Americans? We're in no position to continue to concern ourselves with the welfare of other nations. Our nation has sufficient unresolved problems. Besides, the help we give to foreign countries has not been of much value to either we Americans or the populations of the recipient nations.

Just keep borrowing money from China to subsidize the downfall of America!

Everyone complains about jobs going overseas, but when it comes to farm subsidies...

This election is about the USA President, NOT Africa's! We really need to worry about OUR problems this time as we are really falling apart as a nation. I am a Middle age, Middle CLASS family man who I thought had it pretty good back in the 90's... Man, how it has gone downhill since then. It is really hard making ends meet now. We need to do something to help the middle class or we are in real trouble! (Gas Prices, Oil Prices, war funding, College costs, food costs, taxes, the list goes on and on...)

Giuliani has no understanding of world affairs and Americans don't have time for him to play catch up. Disasters are unfolding all around us in the world everyday, listen carefully to Giuliani's answers. American doesn't need the old bandage approach or someone to nurse broken policies while we're still wounded.

"Giuliani cited the free trade pact with Peru"

Excuse me Rudy, but U.S. free trade agreements expand brand-name drug companies' monopolies.

The WTO TRIPS agreement, although very problematic, did guarantee that countries can prioritize public health and take measures to guarantee access to medicines for all.

The new data exclusivity rules (contained in US bilateral free trade agreements) are a gigantic
gift to Big Pharma. Data exclusivity - rules preventing generics from relying on clinical test data from brand-name companies - is Big Pharma's top agenda item for trade deals, and a major impediment to generic competition.

George H. W. Bush had the perfect phrase for this kind of gobbledygook: VOODOO ECONOMICS. It means that no matter what the problem is, if you lower taxes on the wealthy, increase deficit spending, and remove barriers to trade, the problem will be solved. It doesn't matter whether it's autism in children or lead paint on toys.

How about we trade you to Africa. You can go over there and help them.

Somehow, I get the feeling that somewhere within the process, there's something about trade with Africa that would benefit Rudy personally and financially.

After all look how much money he's made over the dead bodies of the 9/11 victims.....

"'I would try to increase dramatically trade with Africa," Giuliani said. "Because what we're really trying to do is help Africa get to the point where the African countries can take care of this problem themselves."

"There's nothing better than to help to make people self-sufficient, and aid helps them get through crisis, but then trade helps them to self-sufficiency.'"

That has to be the most intelligent answer to this problem I've heard from a candidate.

I believe that Giuliani is wrong on this. Increacing trade can help some things, but health may only get a small boost. If Giuliani wants to continue the policies of this president, then he hasn't been paying attention. The abstinence only programs don't work well enough. These programs need to be open and honest with people.

Many African countries are so embroiled with internal conflicts that they can't maintain trade with other countries effectively. There is often not enough in the way of roads to get things to where they need to go. That needs to be addressed as well if this "More trade with solve the health crisis" bull. Many things are interconnected and sometimes the candidates don't know or realize that.

Surely Americans aren't serious about electing this man who has absolutely no understanding of the world as their next president and who sees the world ignorantly as black and white. Then again, you did reelect Bush!

Rudy has an excellent point. We all know from our own experiences that health care in the US has become cheaper and more readily available since NAFTA and all of the other 'Free' trade agreements.

The only reason there are any problems at all in the US is becuase of the excessively high minimum wage. If we could only lower that to maybe two bucks an hour, many more people would be able to afford health care.

I'm not a Giuliani fan, but he is right on this one. Problem is, try getting permission to export to Africa. Good Luck.

Guiliani is a war-monger who has no intention of ending Bush's war of terror in Iraq. In fact, he has plans to expand the terror campaign to Iran. This guy is a danger to the United States. He has no presidential qualities about him. No Rudy!

Does Giuliani propose getting rid of the agricultural subsidies that cost American taxpayers money and prevent African farmers from being able to export their goods to the US? Does he support lowering the tariffs and quotas that prevent the manufactured goods from being produced in Africa and sold in the U.S.? If so, then he's onto something–these measures would create tens of thousands of jobs on the continent. If not, his response was empty rhetoric used to skirt a question on HIV/AIDS, one of the greatest crises of our time. AIDS is preventable and treatable, and deserves a much greater commitment from the U.S.; if Giuliani wants to add to this by proving that the U.S. is truly open to trade, then all the better for global health and prosperity.

Yeah sounds like the stock answer from a republican candidate when addressing global poverty. Trade will save the underdeveloped world. So does this mean Giuliani will stop spending taxpayer money on subsidies that both hinder trade with developing countries, and drive up prices for Americans at home? That's what I thought.