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From Indonesia, Success for Obama.

I am hearing a rumor that Obama had said that if elected he would not put his hand on the Bible to be sworn in, any one hear this or is this a lie?

Everyone has a lot to say about Obama's experience in this campaign. I think alot of you people are ignorant and stuck in your ways. It's time for a change. Here's a question for all of you. When Bush destroyed this country his first time in office, why in the hell did everyone vote for him again? He's the one with no experience. The U.S. isn't ready for a women or a anyone who isn't white to be president, but it's going to happen so we may as well get ready. Anything that isn't the "norm", Americans pull out their prejudice cards. I thought this was "The Land of The Free, Home of the Brave". We pride ourselves as being a country where it's ok to be different and an individualist. Why can't we apply that theory to our presidential campaign? My opinion is, anyone would do a better job than that idiot George Bush. The purpose for the election is to vote for the person you think will do a good job running our country. If we don't like the person, vote for a change next time. But don't let who you vote for be determined by their race, beliefs, sex, or anything other than what they say and can prove they can do for our country.

Well i knew it wouldnt be long untill the race card would be played, now Obama is digging up bones, and trying to live in the past, we dont need the past thats history, if he wants to teach history let him, but dont get drawed into a race war with Obama, Hillary, if this is all he knows well we dont want to live in the past, we wont to be told what you are going to do for us now.
We have a president that knows how to live in the past, and dont know how to run a country, we dont need another president that wants to relive history, this country cant stand that, we need a leader , we need Hillary Clinton, let Obama take his preaching, and his history, and go back home and teach school, that sounds like all he would know how to do.
let the raciest remarks spew from his mouth if thats his mentality, then let him rant and rave we sure dont need him for president, i dont see how Il can stand him for a senitor.And this is all we need is a president that will run this country as a raceist, where 20% of the people will be all that has a president, and you think what we have is bad now.

MR. HUSSEIN OBAMA BARACK, WAS ONLY A MUSLIM FOR 12 YEARS, NOT FOR LIFE THEN HE FOUND ANOTHER GOD ... >>> JESUS. NOW AFTER HIS DADDY LEFT HUSSEIN OBAMA BARACK AT AGE 2 AND WENT BACK TO MOTHER AFRICA, FACT! HIS MOTHER THEN MET A NICE MUSLIM FROM INDOESIA WHERE THE LIVED AND OBAMA LOVED HIS NEW MUSLIM SCHOOL. FACT! THEN AFTER THIS SECOND MARRIAGE BREAKDOWN OBAME WENT TO AMERICA TO LIVE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS, AND YES FOUND JESUS... SO OBAMA HUSSEIN BARACK IS NO LONGER A MUSLIM, FOR NOW AT LEAST!

Some of these comments are something that would belong more at home on FOX Noise than CNN.

For the last time:

BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM.

HIS MIDDLE NAME MATTERS AS MUCH AS A SWORDFIGHTER ATTACKING A TANK.

I'm very disappointed with Obama who just babbles why is he even being in this race, he is obviously way out of this league of experience candidates.
Richardson was impressive and my new second choice...

VOTE FOR HILLARY

"TOAD- my friend: Obama's middle name is Hussein. remember saddam hussien. Hussein is muslim name. so check your facts"

Posted By sk, NY, NY

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What could be anymore ignorant that actually believing that a NAME determines what religion one is? This is proof that Bush should never have canceled funding for education!!! And we are supposed to be impressed by name-calling? Grow up and get an education.

I like this candidate, but he needs more experience in government. He has to learn to say what he truely thinks and believes and drop the campaign rhetoric. If he ever learns to " take charge" he may become unstoppable.

HE IS NOT A MUSLIM! SAY IT WITH ME FOLKS! HE IS NOT A MUSLIM!

The guy who took the oath of office in a Quaran was Keith Ellison, a US House Representative from Minnesota: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison_%28politician%29

But I guess for people as closed minded as you are, all black people are the same, right? Just like all Muslims are terrorists?

CNN needs to make you pass a US History 101 quiz before posting

Posted By Todd, St. Louis, MO : November 14, 2007 10:02 am

TOAD- my friend: Obama's middle name is Hussein. remember saddam hussien. Hussein is muslim name. so check your facts

Republicans hate truth and everything else.

"You change your name to a good old fashioned AMERICAN name and you put your hand on your heart when ANY one of our ANTHEMS is played."

Posted By shannon, dekalb county, il

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Please let us know what your new AMERICAN name is when you get rid of that IRISH name. How many ANTHEMS do we have?

Barack Hussien Obama

To all those who are questioning If Obama is muslim....does Hussien rings a bell...saddam hussein...clear enough.

No there is nothing wrong in being muslim however problem is that Obama is NOT acknowledging it. He is lying about it.

What is next he is going to say " I will tell if I was black"...

Obama...please don't be so stupid.

Man, it's obvious Obama has to raise and spend some more money to combat these idiots out there who think he spent 10 years as a city councilman in Chicago or that he went to a madrassa. For the RECORD, Obama is not a Muslim nor has he ever been one. He went to a public school while living in Indonesia for four years. He served eight years as a STATE SENATOR and was responsible for getting sweeping ethics legislation passed, suspending Illinois' capital punishment apparatus after 13 men on death row were found to be innocent and brought health acre to hundreds of thousands of Illinois children. He was a busy man those eight years. He also has almost twice as much elected legislative experience than Hillary...so the next time a Hillary supporter says that she is the experienced candidate, just laugh and shove the truth right back at them.

...barrack hussein obomba...no tools to be president his expierence and that name he will loose against the republicans..they will flip flap over that so bad...

This bantering is further proof that the majority of Americans are far too ignorant to be charged with voting for public officials. Democracy is dependent upon an informed electorate, which is why this country is on a slippery slope to self-destruction. The inanity of some of these posts is enough to make me question reproductive rights in this country.

I received this infamous email. I was appalled. To me it represents dirty politics and McCarthyism. Theatrics does NOT equate to patriotism. The Nazis were really good at theatrics.

obama is a very smart man. he should one day be a great president. but c'mon democrats – you have to be smart too. do you really think when elections come next year if obama is the nominee the republicans will go crazy over is name.
"osama obama" will be one thing that people can look over. but when you have the name hussein in your name as in his legal name -barack HUSSEIN obama-, i don't know how you can get away w/ not getting caught to the republican smearing.
i can just see now how chris mathews and the rest of the gas bags salvating for this scenario. rudy will get a cake walk!

Posted By KD, cherry hill NJ : November 14, 2007 1:50 pm

I agree with you, but Chris Matthews, is not a republic in the way you put it. He's moderate, you could tell if you watched his show. Democrates can't believe everything we hear. We can't just elect someone into the White House we cause we've seen them before and who they are friends or relitives with. We have to learn and study and not go by here say. The E-Mails going around are to smear Obama. If you did research on him like on wikipedia or other good sources of information you would know the truth about his religion. He's Christian. If he were muslim the candidates on the GOP side would have made that an issue. Study and read before you talk!

First off, I consider this a completely absurd non-issue. But for the sake of argument, if this really makes Obama "less patriotic" does it make him "less able" to be the President?

Does the CEO of Coke drink the most Coke? President of McDonald's eat the most Big Macs? Is the best ball player his team's biggest fan? Nobody cares. What matters is the individual's ability to do the job.

And being a Muslim really shouldn't be treated like a bad thing. Please, Hitler was a patriotic christian so being patriotic and christian alone does not a good leader make.

My apologies to Carl from L.A.- Los Angeles CA if I missed your sarcasm. There have been so many mindless comments here by people who have no interest in truth that it could have been stated by either side.

Thanks to GC, Lambertville, NJ.

Posted By Richard, West Palm Beach, FL : November 14, 2007 4:56 pm

At least I hope he was being sarcastic! But yes, I agree with you. After reading these posts, I'm convinced we are doomed. It scares me that so many of these people vote. Yikes!

My apologies to Carl from L.A.- Los Angeles CA if I missed your sarcasm. There have been so many mindless comments here by people who have no interest in truth that it could have been stated by either side.

Thanks to GC, Lambertville, NJ.

"If he respects the pledge to the Flag, and disrespects to the Star spangle banner which I conceder as one. Then I don't thank he should be
conceder as a Candidate for the president of the — U.S.A."

Boy, that just about nails it, doesn't it?

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NO, it doesn't nail it. There are millions of Americans who stand at attention for the Anthem and hold their hearts for the Pledge. LOOK AT ANY SPORTS EVENT! From these blogs it is obvious that a huge number of loyal Americans weren't aware of the official procedure. People who slam someone who respectfully stands at attention, sings, and applauds at the end of our National Anthem and consider this to be intentionally disrespectful have bigger personal issues to analyze.

Posted By Richard, West Palm Beach, FL : November 14, 2007 3:40 pm

Richard, I think that person was being sarcastic because the person wrote, "conseder" instead of "consider". I think they were pointing out how uneducated the person is who wrote that. Typographical errors are one thing. A complete lack of knowledge of the English language is absurd. All of these people who are bashing Obama and Democrats can't seem to write a simple sentence in their native language! That is priceless. They'll be the first to also complain about hispanics not speaking English. The Ugly American is widely represented here in this blog.

"If he respects the pledge to the Flag, and disrespects to the Star spangle banner which I conceder as one. Then I don't thank he should be
conceder as a Candidate for the president of the — U.S.A."

Boy, that just about nails it, doesn't it?

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NO, it doesn't nail it. There are millions of Americans who stand at attention for the Anthem and hold their hearts for the Pledge. LOOK AT ANY SPORTS EVENT! From these blogs it is obvious that a huge number of loyal Americans weren't aware of the official procedure. People who slam someone who respectfully stands at attention, sings, and applauds at the end of our National Anthem and consider this to be intentionally disrespectful have bigger personal issues to analyze.

I love how if your not for Obama your a racist. I want to get this right, Im white, If I were to vote for obama it would be because he is half white, but if I didnt then its because hes black, right? Im just trying to figure out exactly why Im a racist for not planning on voting for him.

OH MY GOD! I simply cannot believe how idiotic this is! Vince is right – I can't believe how stupid Americans are either! That you would determine someone's patriotism based on whether they wore a flag pin is beyond absurd.

It’s truly a shame that good men and women who run for office are destroyed by the REAL unpatriotic citizens among us. Perhaps we wouldn’t end up with incompetent leaders like Bush if we understood that being a good American means casting an intelligent, informed vote.

These negative comments are posted by people who are not voting for Obama and never was and never will. Because they are Racist or cause they are voting for another candidate. So all this back and forth posting is ridiculous. This is an attempt to smear Obama to the ignorant people who do not read, write or vote. So it is useless.

Anyone with a brain that is shopping for their best candidate is not for one instance falling for this non-sense. The media keeps bringing it up in hopes it will get some traction. But it won't. For every stupid false email there is 10 true emails for the candidates.

This close to voting, shouldn’t we be talking about were each candidate stands on important issues and were they plan to take this country. That’s what intelligent people who care about their futures would be doing.

TO THE SADLY MISINFORMED PUBLIC WHO CRITICIZES OBAMA FOR NOT HAVING HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART DURING THE "NATIONAL ANTHEM"…

Your hand is placed over your heart during the PLEDGE OF ALLIGIENCE because you are swearing an oath to the United States. YOU ARE NOT SWEARING TO ANYTHING DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND DO NOT NEED TO PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART!…

Amazing how ignorant U.S. citizens really are.

US FLAG CODE AS ADOPTED BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS

§ 171. Conduct during playing National Anthem
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.

TO THE SADLY MISINFORMED PUBLIC WHO CRITICIZES OBAMA FOR NOT HAVING HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART DURING THE "PLEDGE OF ALLIGENCE".....

Your hand is placed over your heart during the PLEDGE OF ALLIGIENCE because you are swearing an oath to the United States. YOU ARE NOT SWEARING TO ANYTHING DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND DO NOT NEED TO PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART!.....

Amazing how ignorant U.S. citizens really are.

Obama, keep moving. Critics in your country are so bad, sometimes baseless.

Regards,

Kurnia
http://jakartaku.wordpress.com

There is a comment far above here that so fully sums up the position of the anti-Obama remarks here, that I think it deserves to be repeated:

"If he respects the pledge to the Flag, and disrespects to the Star spangle banner which I conceder as one. Then I don't thank he should be
conceder as a Candidate for the president of the — U.S.A.
Posted By J.D. Allen – Hondo, Texas : November 13, 2007 9:46 pm "

Boy, that just about nails it, doesn't it?

TO ALL OF YOU WHO INSIST ON CLAIMING THAT OBAMA SWORE IN ON THE KORAN…..

KEITH ELLISON (D-Minnesota) WAS THE ONE WHO SWORE IN ON THE KORAN….NOT OBAMA!!!! (see link below)

It is absolutely amazing how ignorant U.S. citizens really are.

http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=40187

To all you morons who insist on claiming that Obama swore in on the Koran

KEITH ELLISON (D-Minnesota)WAS THE CONGRESSMAN TO SWEAR IN ON THE KORAN....NOT OBAMA!!!! (see links below)

It is absolutely amazing how ignorant the majority of our citizens really are

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/117182/first_muslim_congressman_to_swear_oath.html

New congressman chooses to be sworn-in on Koran, not Bible
http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=40187

What in the name of (insert preferred deity name here) is wrong with you people? For the last, last, absolutely LAST time, Obama did not take his oath of office on the Koran. The person who did so was Keith Ellison, the representative from the 5th Congressional District in Minnesota. He is a practicing Muslim and more power to him. And for all you poor, misguided souls who will refuse to even consider listening to Obama's message because you "think his name means he's the enemy?" Gee whiz. Keith Ellison. My, that's a name to strike fear into the hearts of the populace, isn't it?

Why don't you just grow a set and admit it – the real reason you won't hear Obama's message is because it is coming out of the mouth of a man of color. And you absolutely cannot stand that. You cannot tolerate the notion that there is a Black man of courage and character; a polished, thoughtful and articulate speaker who does not whip the crowd into a frenzy because of the "Preacher at the Revival" quality of his rhetoric, but through the power and simplicity of the message.

And as far as this ridiculous non-story about where his hand was or was not during the National Anthem? I would remind you of Samuel Johnson's comment, particularly with respect to the "patriotism" of the current administration:

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

obama is a very smart man. he should one day be a great president. but c'mon democrats – you have to be smart too. do you really think when elections come next year if obama is the nominee the republicans will go crazy over is name.
"osama obama" will be one thing that people can look over. but when you have the name hussein in your name as in his legal name -barack HUSSEIN obama-, i don't know how you can get away w/ not getting caught to the republican smearing.
i can just see now how chris mathews and the rest of the gas bags salvating for this scenario. rudy will get a cake walk!

Whoever posted that Obama took his oath on the Koran is thinking about Rep. Keith Ellison. So, that clears that up.
The problem here does not seem to always be that people are just finding a way that they think they can attack a person. I believe that people are given wrong information and honestly believe it. Everyone just needs to get their facts straight.
And, yes, Barack Obama has repeatedly referred to himself as a Christian. And , no, he did not convert from Islam. He has always been a Christian.
Just wanted everyone to have the facts, if these are the kinds of things that matter to you.
Posted By Jason, Columbia, SC : November 14, 2007 9:19 am

Chris, please take the time to educate yourself. Obama DID NOT take his oath to the senate on the Quran! Only one individual in the history of the United States has EVER done this…and it wasn’t Obama nor was it an oath in the Senate! It WAS Keith Ellison from Minnesota during his pledge to the House of Representatives!
If you don't take the time to research the facts, you shouldn't be allowed to vote! Quit spewing RNC rhetoric and learn the facts!
The hatred for muslims in this country is sickening, and goes against the very principles of Christianity (you know, the actual teachings of Christ, rather than the Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson hate/spin machine).
Your ignorance and racism are appalling and sad.
Posted By Rob, Sand Diego CA : November 14, 2007 9:37 am

How incredibly unitelligent many of you are. The individual who was sworn in on the Quran was Keith Ellison, NOT Barack Obama. It is interesting how most of you speak with such confidence in your discussion on politics and global affairs, as it seems most of you are merely anti-Muslim bigots who really have no knowledge of politics. I suggest reading a book…Maybe even a few books…
Posted By AT, Washington DC : November 14, 2007 9:36 am
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I think the intelligent people and fact checkers were asleep when the fat and dumb people were posting lies about Obama. Keith Ellison is the one who swore on the Koran NOT Brack Obama. I am thankful for these three and many more posters who have their facts straight. Unfortunately, this truth will go unnoticed by the "fat and dumb" people in this site trying to bring Obama down. Take warning 1...I will not be swiftboated in this race...I am gonna hit back hard"

I am saddened by the state of religion claimed by many of our political candidates, including Obama. "We got the best choir" has nothing to do with salvation. I have yet to hear a to the point experience of conversion & practice of that conversion.

Ok, looking through the ticker, people should be noticing a slight trend.

Democratic articles are all about the competition between candidates, Flags falling on candidates, non-patriotism, background, staged performances, shady business, etc. Stop reacting to this nonsense reporting and start demanding information about the issues. Shouldn't we be asking the question "What are you going to do for America?" instead of "Can you win the election?"

Vote for the candidate that best supports your views and will best help America, not the one you think has the best chance of winning. That's what the voting's about, get back on task and CNN, stop giving us non-news.

When I hear Sen. Obama saying he believes (like Anne Frank, before she was killed) that most people have basic goodness in their hearts, and then see the total nastiness and racism turned towards him by some I want to become bitter. But Obama, being the man he is wouldn't want that. So I will correct those who are throwing these vicious lies out there, slandering this man who gave up a LUCRATIVE WALL STREET CAREER TO WALK THE COLD WINDY STREETS OF CHICAGO, to help the fatherless, homeless and poor, in the hopes that if they see the truth they will appeal to that which Obama sees in them, that the majority of people in this country wont believe these vicious lies.
First of all, to those who are saying Obama was sworn in on the Quron, PLEASE, this is what makes me wonder if black people do indeed look the same to white people. THAT WAS CONGRESSMAN KEITH ELLISON FROM MINNESOTA, HE IS A MUSLIM. Obama's natural father was born a Muslim but practiced atheism as his mother. Not only that, but Obama had minimal minimal contact with his natural father since he left the family when Obama was TWO, Obama only seeing him once after that. Now, the racists will say but his STEPFATHER WAS MUSLIM. Yes he too, was muslim by birth, but DID NOT PRACTICE IT. Even if he did, Obama was principally raised by his grandparents. So there's something else these racists will throw out there-he went to a predominantly MUSLIM SCHOOL (leaving out the fact that it was in a predominantly Muslim country, Obama also attending Catholic school). But dont American diplomats w/children living overseas attend these types of schools?? Matter of fact, the Cnn rpt on this said the school was attended by a lot of American expatriates and officials. Are THERE CHILDREN EXCLUDED FROM EVER RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT or any other public office BECAUSE THEY WERE EXPOSED TO THIS DREADED RELIGIOUS SCHOOL ALSO. Does that make THEM now Muslim plants trying to take over "Merika"?? Just to get this right. People just can't see how racist this attack on Obama is, how disgusting!!! This man has worked as a public official for over 20 years!! He's helped homeless veterans, other veterans, he's on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for goodness sakes! They have a lot of influence.
And to this Pledge-I'VE PERSONALLY SEEN OBAMA ON CSPAN LEAD THE SENATE IN IT, WITH HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART. I SAW HIM ON CSPAN JUST THIS WEEKEND AT THE JJ DINNER IN IOWA SAYING IT HAND OVER HEART.
Obama is not the enemy, unless you're a racist, hateful person. Sadly Obama, maybe is finding out that this "magical place" as he called it at the 2004 convention, STILL HAS A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY CAN DO A LOT OF DAMAGE.

Unbelievable that the media still allows these Bill and Hillary Clinton and Clinton campaign lies to still circulate about Obama. And if it isn't Clinton, which I guarantee it is, then whoever it is just shows the cowardness, they can't surface. I've sung the National Anthem all my life and it is when you pledge allegiance to the flag that you put your hand over your heart and that picture was not the pledge of allegiance it was the anthem dodos. What stupids! But no matter. Obama's gonna reign! OBAMA '08!!

For all you die-hard Republicans out there and for you confused Democrats, and also for the racists and Muslim hater, etc, we should put you all in one little portion of this great country and let you destroy yourselves. We don't need you in the general public. You are to dangerous and to hate filled to live amongst the citizens of this great country. you do us a diservice with all of your stupid comments. Did you even finish the 8th grade? You sound like a bunch of hill billys. You shouldn't be allowed to even claim this country as your own. We should create the hill billy country and place you right next to Iran. Any way as I digress. Barak Obama is an Americans' American. Good man and will be a great president. I believe all the other Democratic candidates have qualifications we need to improve the country as well. The Republicans candidates? Well, they don't matter becasue there is not one who makes sense and who the American people feel safe with leading the country. So stop attacking the good people out of anger because your party sucks. Be mad at yourselves America is hated. You are to blame. God Bless America and the "real American citizens." Oh and to the stupid woman who said Obama should get a "real American name," no name in this country is "American." Since our ancestors that came to the states whether voluntary or forced came from other countries with original names. You all disgust me with your stupidity.

This soo great. I haven't laughed that hard for a while. You don't even know the religion of your candidates, you think he's racist because he's christian and he didn's stitched his hand over his heart. What a bad, unpatriotic person.
I don't think you deserve such a good leader as Obama. A country that has no more moral values can't have an honest president. Why don'T you vote another member of the Bush-family? Oh wait, Hillary is as good as that. I'm so glad I'm not american.

The whole world is laughing about you.

Nice one there Doug from New Jersey...calling the other 1/2 of the country that doesn't vote Republican, "Evil, and hates America and hates our troops" is very AMERICAN of you! *rolls eyes* Your hypocrisy astounds me...

I was never taught to hold my hand over my heart when I sing the Star Spangled Banner, so I've never done it. I guess that makes me a Muslim too.

Posted By Leah, Springfield, MA : November 14, 2007 11:55 am

No Leah, that does not make you a muslim, just uneducated as to the proper showing of respect to the flag as stated in the US Flag Code. Don't worry the vast majority of Americas do not have the faintest clue as to how to render the proper respect so consider yourself in the majority.

So CNN, you will delete a sarcastic comment about the KKK, but you allow a highly racist expression like "dirty shine" (john, 7.40am). Strange editorial policy.

Well, about the only thing I can say at this time is I told you so. How does it feel to be on the receiving end of unwarranted attacks.

Don't want to be a receiver, don't be a giver.

"The liberals who find joy in hearing about deaths of our soliders in Iraq"

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The people who cheer the deaths of our brave soldiers are a RIGHT-WING, RADICALLY RELIGIOUS group in Kansas that blames everything on homosexuality. They are the opposites of liberals and much closer to conservatives.

The self-delusion that liberals cheer the deaths of our soldiers is nothing more than wishful thinking. If liberals didn't care about our troops they wouldn't be fighting so hard to bring them home safely. It is the Republicans that support the deaths of more troops by remaining in Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11.

This soo great. I haven't laughed that hard for a while. You don't even know the religion of your candidates, you think he's racist because he's christian and he didn's stitched his hand over his heart. What a bad, unpatriotic person.
I don't think you deserve such a good leader as Obama. A country that has no more moral values can't have an honest president. Why don'T you vote another member of the Bush-family? Oh wait, Hillary is as good as that. I'm so glad I'm not american.

The whole world is laughing about you.

gregopelika – now that's a scary sounding name. Sounds almost like a 'terrorist' name!

A big 'LOL' to Leah, Springfield, MA (nice name, BTW!)

I want our next president sworn in on the CONSTITUTION instead of a religious book. Separation of church and state, people!

I am a patriotic American, but I skip the 'under god' part of the pledge since I don't believe in fairy tales. I stand at attention during the National Anthem, but did not think it was neccesary to put hand over heart.

I hope I don't get kicked out of the country because I'm not 'mainstream' patriotic. Some posters on here would like that, I'm sure.

Stewart/Colbert 2008!!

Wow, some of these comments make me weep for the country.

Guess what? Obama DID NOT put his hand on the Koran when he was sworn in. You were lied to. Check facts people.

Also, saying that they were singing the anthem wasn't his defence, he was just pointing out how stupid the email was and that they didn't bother to get it straight.

If this is the worst thing you idiots can throw at him, great. The only problem is, Americans seem to care more about respect to a song than respect to the Consititution or respect to the lives of our soldiers who are dying because of our liar president.

obama what a name . sounds like a terriost name , i believe it is . i beleive he is a terror to our way of life

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Our country is in very sad shape when people decide who their leader should be based on his name alone. And Bush vetoes money for education.

The thing that bugs me about the "flag flap" is how little critical thinking people do. On what planet would someone running for the President of the United States not put their hand over the heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. Even if you don't believe the guy is patriotic, surely you're smart enough to know if he's running for president, he'd at minimum FAKE it. Critical thinking people. When you read something, look at it yourself and ask yourself: Does this make sense?

Vic - a little information is dangerous, especially when you don't bother to get the facts. Obama didn't get sworn in by placing his hand on the Koran, the congressman from Minnesota did. Because the congressman from Minnesota is a Muslim. The senator from Illinois is a Christian.

Will of New York City is absolutely right. Mouthing platitudes and wearing flag pins are meaningless actions if you despise the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and the individual liberty that are the foundations of our Republic. Let me assure you, if you despise these things, you are no patriot, no matter how many pledges you mouth and no matter how many pins you put on your chest.

People, stop accepting everything you were taught in grade school. If you think the Pledge of Allegiance is something holy or patriotic, try "Googling" it and find out the truth of its origins. It was created by Francis Bellamy, a Christian socialist, in the 1890's. Now, what is so profoundly patriotic about that?

"Seek the truth, and the truth will make you free."

I was never taught to hold my hand over my heart when I sing the Star Spangled Banner, so I've never done it. I guess that makes me a Muslim too.

obama what a name . sounds like a terriost name , i believe it is . i beleive he is a terror to our way of life

Mr. Huckabee is the only sincere man, other than McCain, in the race – period. Mr. Huckabee and Mr. McCain are the only ones – unscripted. Mr. Huckabee and Mr. McCain are the only two people in the campaign on either side who are in the game for the folks. For the country. They both have heart and brains. Together, they will insure Republicans rule for the next 16 years.

Some of these people are right...Obama-Haters snoop and dig for meaningless crap like this so that they can say they don't like him because of his faith and lack of patriotism. There are quite a few leaders out there who are 'Christians', wear that lapel pin and place their hand over their heart during the national anthem(although many us don't do it anyway) and do some of the most unpatriotic things(i.e. solicit public sex, cheat on their wives, or, I don't know, have a fruitless war(iraq), then push for another one(iran)?)...why don't you come right out an say it? You won't vote for him because he is an African-Amercian.

The people suggesting this is Hillary Clinton who is smearing Barack Obama are being totally ignorant to America's lowly right wing Republicans and how they operate.
Which "news" channel is the one who perpetuated the Madrassa smear on Obama?
Why, it was Fox "News".
Think this was a coincidence?

"You make me wanna puke with all your arrogrants – I gave 30 years of the best years of my life defending the best country in the world and your total disrespect of your nation is appalling to say the least"

Thanks for your service. I take it that you will not be voting for the party that thinks that you, as a defender of our freedom, are a worse human being than Osama Bin Laden. The people who think that Bush is worse than Hitler. The Democratic party that is made up of people who threw blood on the troops returning home from Vietnam. The liberals who find joy in hearing about deaths of our soliders in Iraq. The Marxists who blame every death caused by Al Queda on Bush and our military.

If you are honest, love America, and have respect for other people you simply cannot vote Democrat. The comments from various libs at this site and all over the net confirm this. Please remind all decent people of this and fight the evil that is the liberal Democrat. Thank you.

This is so disappointing, "A pin" , "A hand Gesture" people would respect your ideology more if you just stated your racism start forward. Yeah, RACISM coward. You can't find anything bad about Obama, and inside you know that his quiet strenght and steadfast demeanor exudes the ideal "spirit of American Democracy and freedom." The world will eat Democracy & Freedom from his hand. We are the strongest Nation to ever exist in the history of earth. Act like if, the only way we could possible ever lose this "war" (if you can call it that)is to beat ourselves by not taking a educated accessment of what victory would be and seeking that end. The weak fight for no realistic end "ie. terrorism" While the strong fights for both themselves and their enemies responsibility comes with strength, the current administration have forgotten about responsibility, first to Americans and secondly to the rest of the world. The loundest in the room , is usually the weakest in the room. To keep doing the same thing expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. Obama is the only candidate offering something different. To vote for anyone else given what I've heard so far would be insanity.

This is such an obvious attempt to swiftboat Sentor Obama as he gains momentum. Why don't they (the press and citizens) talk about what is important.Where does Obama stand on issues and what is his record?

This is a ridulous attempt to undermind someone who is being patriotic by running for President and challenging "blind patriotism" and those who wear lapel pins and do nothing. Many Americans that call themselves patriotic have never risked personal attacks by trying to improve this country. What have you ever done for the country, state, or even locally. Are you involved in politics or even voting?

You have nothing better to do than look for a moment in time to define a person?

I am tried of this non news news stuff. I am tired most of all of the pundits that take stuff like this and make new of it.

Touche Allison thank you for saying all the things I was about to write.

So I guess I can now move on and highlight some other facts. I wonder how many of these outraged souls out there even placeA their own hand over there hearts during the National Anthem? and before you ALL come running with, I DO; I DO; it will be only you and your God who will truely know the truth.

I for one will be man enough to say I shared Obama's believe that during the pledge you did but during the Anthem this was not necessary. Either way it is such a non issue. I would rather have leaders who made a mistake here than someone like Rumsfeld who SURELY always places his hand over his heart but then sends our troops over to fight a war without the equipment and troop levels they need and this knowingly because as he himself told general he wanted to do it on the cheap!

We have soilders dying as we speak who have never placed their hand over their hearts during the Anthem, and are not doing it now because soilders salute, and we have people here who proudly place their hands over their hearts and scream about patriotism a hand gesture but would never consider volunteering to join the armed forces to defend this country or would do everything in their power to keep their children from having to serve.

Who is more patriotic?

Christianity will make you to be PATRIOTIC too.

Jesus wept.

You mean, Jesus WEEPS.

The things that are done in his name...

Also, RE: Rep. Ellison's swearing his oath on the Quran:

The man IS a Muslim. He swore an oath on his holy scripture. I consider this much more binding than making him take an oath on the Christian bible because he went out of his way to be sure that his oath was taken on something that is spiritually meaningful to him. He swore to serve the people who elected him and uphold the Constitution of this country.

I'd rather have that oath be taken in a meaningful fashion than just words repeated over a book you don't believe in.

C'mon people. As adults you're expected to actually do RESEARCH and THINK.

(1)BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM. If you think so, then you assume that when he was 10 years old he decided to hide his true feelings for the next 35 years so that he could run for president and subvert America. THERE IS NOT ONE EXAMPLE OF HIM DOING ANYTHING TO SUPPORT MUSLIM ACTIVITIES IN HIS ADULT LIFE.

(2) BARACK OBAMA DID NOT TAKE HIS OATH ON THE KORAN. Do some research this time.

(3) DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY THINK THAT ANY PRESIDENT COULD CHANGE THE RELIGION OF A COUNTRY OR ITS LAWS? Read the Constitution.

(4) BARACK OBAMA DID NOT REFUSE TO TAKE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. That is just a lie and wishful thinking for opponents.

(5) MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DO NOT PUT THEIR HAND ON THEIR HEART FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND ASSUME IT IS ONLY DONE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. Watch ANY sports event. He respectfully stood, sang the Anthem and applauded at the end and you are ridiculous enough to think that's disgraceful?

(6) BARACK OBAMA STOPPED WEARING THE PIN BECAUSE HE FELT TOO MANY HYPOCRITES WORE IT WITHOUT ACTUALLY TAKING ACTIONS TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT. I'll bet that most of the people knocking him here for it DON'T wear it either. HYPOCRITES!!

Don't vote for Barack if you disagree with his policies. Don't vote for Barack if you don't vote for Democrats. Don't vote for Barack if you like another candidate better. But don't vote against him because you are too ignorant to value TRUTH.

Well, I'd known that CNN was in a rush with Fox to the bottom of the barrel, and so the airing these bogus accusations just proves the point. Without any back-up as to who is making these accusations just further demeans the idea of independent journalism. Any innuendo seems to be fair game. This leaves most thinking people with the question, 'Who is CNN performing this 'swift-boating' for'?

Ah, another kind of slave…While Obama stands before us dispelling the rumor that he's Muslim; he could have the courage to dispel the myth that one must be Christian in order to be president. It’s disparaging that despite past warnings against a religious litmus test, a change of guard is little more than exchange of prisoners, as candidates play marionette puppet slaves to the strings the Power Elite pull not out of religious piety but sheer manipulative force. They mine for gold in the crossbeams of indoctrination and virtue but as the drilling goes on, corruption increasingly serves as buttress. Puts us on shaky ground. While being religious is okay, a religious litmus test becomes a major destabilizing factor as factions or denominations incessantly vie for power and control…and they will. It’s always harder to see it when it happens to rather than to others, but we should. We should be able to see that.

Wayne, Greenville TX

don't change the subject and don't change the debate which is that Barack Obama doesn't have experience running anything and hasn't done anything successful in Illinois, so he's least qualified for the Presidency. And again, George Bush is NOT running for President , so quit the Bush obsession and focus on naming anything Obama has accomplished other than the required Democratic "act" of raising my taxes!

When I read the incredibly ignorant comments on this blog, I understand how this country elected someone like George W. Bush–twice! If we continue to elect corrupt leaders like G.W. Bush & the Clintons, then this country deserves exactly what it will get, and it won't be anything good.

Oh boy! are Americans this ignorant ?.

The summary of the post on this matter is very sad.

Come on fellow Americans wake up. If this is all the negative things they can come up with about Obama.

Then I declare, helo President Obama.

Okay you brainless blowhards. The current administration puts hand on heart during the playing Star Spangled Banner and Pledge of Allegiance but yet completely ignore the Constitution all the while men and women in uniform are dying so they pad their pockets but I don't see anyone calling them unpatriotic. I didn't put my hand over my heart the last time I heard the National Anthem and I don't have a flag lapel pin...So does that make me unpatriotic?

EUNICE, do you even know what you're talking about?
Obama isn't a Muslim.

...as it seems most of you are merely anti-Muslim bigots who really have no knowledge of politics. I suggest reading a book…Maybe even a few books…

Posted By AT, Washington DC : November 14, 2007 9:36 am

AT, this is where you're wrong. You shouldn't be looking up things in books, they're all fact, no heart. You should be looking up this information in your gut.

You know there are more nerve endings in your gut than in your brain? You can look it up. Now I know some of you are going to say that you did look it up and that's not true, but that's because you looked it up in a book, not your gut.

My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

Courtesy of Mr. Stephen Colbert, former Presidential candidate

Considering that the people who slag Obama are the same people who voted twice for Bin Laden's Best friend Bush (draft-dodging walking recruitment poster for Al-Qaeda. Where's Osama, George?) I hardly think their opinion could be swayed. After all these people fail to understand even the simplest distinction like the flag is a symbol of democracy, not democracy itself. I doubt any informed person would thing any of the founding fathers would think that what someone wore was a better gauge of the their patriotism than what they did. I mean, a failure to understand as something as simple as that just shows utter ignorance of what it means to be a patriot or love your country. A yellow ribbon sticker (made in China) stuck to your car doesn't actually mean you do anything tangible to support our troops, yet for a large number of peopl, this constitutes 'patriotism'. For me, something like fighting for more funding of VA hospitals and flak jackets is patriotic, but apparently if I don't wear a lapel pin while I do it, I'm with the terrorists.

Should the media even bother to focus oin such nonsense? People ask, where has my country gone, why don't we ask, where has the media gone? Politics will remain the same, mudslinging and the rampant distribution of false information in order to win will never stop, what can stop is the media's folly and total neglgect for worthy information to the American people.

Obama is acting just like a spoiled, arrogant teenager acting in defiance of his parents wishes. This is sad that he is actually trying to run for the Presidency of the United States – nothing like an inexperienced self-purported ex-muslim jumping on the Christianity bandwagon and still showing complete disrespect for the American people and our flag.

C'mon people. As adults you're expected to actually do RESEARCH and THINK. How stupid can you be?

(1)BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM. If you think so, then you assume that when he was 10 years old he decided to hide his true feelings for the next 35 years so that he could run for president and subvert America. THERE IS NOT ONE EXAMPLE OF HIM DOING ANYTHING TO SUPPORT MUSLIM ACTIVITIES IN HIS ADULT LIFE.

(2) BARACK OBAMA DID NOT TAKE HIS OATH ON THE KORAN. Do some research before making idiotic statements.

(3) IS ANYONE DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THAT ANY PRESIDENT COULD CHANGE THE RELIGION OF A COUNTRY OR ITS LAWS? Read the Constitution.

(4) BARACK OBAMA DID NOT REFUSE TO TAKE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. That is just a lie and wishful thinking for opponents.

(5) MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DO NOT PUT THEIR HAND ON THEIR HEART FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND ASSUME IT IS ONLY DONE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. Watch ANY sports event. He respectfully stood, sang the Anthem and applauded at the end and you are ridiculous enough to think that's disgraceful?

(6) BARACK OBAMA STOPPED WEARING THE PIN BECAUSE HE FELT TOO MANY HYPOCRITES WORE IT WITHOUT ACTUALLY TAKING ACTIONS TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT. I'll bet that most of the people knocking him for it DON'T wear it either. HYPOCRITES!!

Don't vote for Barack if you disagree with his policies. Don't vote for Barack if you don't vote for Democrats. Don't vote for Barack if you like another candidate better. But don't vote against him because you are too STUPID to value TRUTH.

I was unfortunate enough to receive a circulating e-mail slamming Obama based on his "Muslim" status. My question to all of this is, why do we continue to accept being Muslim so negatively? So what if he were?

Reading some of these comments, I am starting to think that it won't really matter who our new leader will be. Our own populace will be our demise.
Posted By CitizenJ : November 14, 2007 9:20 am

I could not have said it any better.
I am amazed at the ignorance of the voting population. We are getting so fat and lazy in this country to even do our own research and find out facts for ourselves. Ignorance should be declared "America's New Enemy"

Posted By Mannie, Chicago : November 14, 2007 9:48 am

YES, you guys said it. I am not an American but I have lived in a America to know a couple of things. Reading these comments and knowing what I know this country is going through, I can not imagine the media influence of some nonesense posted here and how people get worked up by that. I think The people of this country has it all and all what is remaining right now is to focus on so little and thing that don't matter....Just some thought. I wish it could have been better....

My family and I, including my 2 year old son and 11 year old daughter put their hand to their heart whenever something patriotic is displayed, recited or performed. As a potential leader of the FREE world, one would think RESPECT is one of the main qualities one would possess. You remove your hat when indoors, you offer your seat to your elders and you shake hands with soldiers. You change your name to a good old fashioned AMERICAN name and you put your hand on your heart when ANY one of our ANTHEMS is played. This is how you win the presidency.
Posted By shannon, dekalb county, il : November 14, 2007 9:58 am

Good for you, Shannon! You've raised your 2-year-old to do things automatically when he cannot possibly understand them. You've turned your son into a thoughtless little robot, much like you yourself obviously are. Perhaps you should let your kid be a kid, and then let him think for himself when he has the capacity to do so.

How empty and meaningless your life must be to be a Republican posting a racist, zenophobic, incorrect, and morally repugnant slander against a man who defines the essence of modern America. Win at any cost, no? Absolutely shameless...
I guess it would be a bit too base to just flat-out attack Barack for being black this early in the election, so you guys resort to questioning his patriotism and calling him a Muslim when he clearly is not. You can bet the race card will be played when he gets the nomination and starts tearing strips off whichever of the clowns you guys nominate. My only question is, when did it become an acceptable and expected aspect of contemporary American politics to be slammed and smeared by swamp-wallowing Republicans such as those who have posted here?

I am a Hillary supporter until the end. I think Hillary’s vision will foster the change we need and her strength and experience is something America and the world can definitely use.

At the same time I think that it is very unfortunate how a black man is scrutinized in this country. It doesn’t matter what black people do in America. Black Americans will never be viewed as American in the eyes of the pure haters. Black kids are being shot by police in New York. Black men are targeted for prison. Black people are 22 percent of the military population, 44 percent of the prison population. Black men have the highest unemployment.

DON’T QUESTION THAT MAN’S PATRIOTISM. We are patriotic by design. We are patriotic with impunity. Our people came here through the Middle Passage. “We didn’t land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us.” –Malcolm X. Our blood was shed for basic inalienable rights. How much patriotism do you want? The right wing need to cut this petty nonsense out and come at Obama with real issues instead of the hate. This kind of crap is annoying.

I don't really care if the next President is a Muslim, Christian, Jew, or Bhuddist. I don't care if the next President is black, white, male, or female.

What I care about is that the next President has some demonstrated experience in successfully running a business, city, state, whatever not just someone who spends taxpayer money at will, and when they want more, just raise taxes calling it paying "their fair share", better known as redistribution of wealth, but not their, and their friends wealth.

The current crop of DEM hopefulls short and the GOP hopefulls are not much better.

>>Christianity will make you to be PATRIOTIC too.

Jesus wept.

Wow, some of these comments are dispicable. Do I really live in a society where people are so uneducated that they wouldn't vote for someone based on their religion? Even if Obama WAS Muslim (which he is not) – SO WHAT!?!?! The mentality that ALL muslims are terrorists is a completely bigoted viewpoint.

It simply amazes me how people will come out in droves to slam Obama for not putting his hand on his heart while singing the Star Spangled Banner...and those same people support Bush who didn't even show up for his Veteran's Day photo op – you know...the one where the president comes out to support our troops on our national day of rememberance!!

Bob Bayless of San Antone...thanks for the specific info on saluting the flag. I'm a 37 year-old American and never knew that there was to be a salute other than when the pledge was said. I thought it was optional during the anthem.

Right on, Barack! And he welcomes and answers hard questions. He doesn't plant creampuff ones.

Hank, Fort Myers, Fl

You are absolutely right. This guy has consistently refused to do patriotic things like wearing the lapel pin of the U.S flag. Since 911 I have never seen any Muslim wearing the U.S flag and am not sure if they say the pledge of allegiance or even sing the national anthem or such things. That is probably the reason why he is not doing it. He also has never come clearly out to say publicly, that HE IS NOT A MUSLIM with emphasis and also say I AM A CHRISTIAN. I bet you he became a member of Trinity Church after thinking of being in the race and he knew then that it will be an issue. I want people to know that I have once watched a video of the extremists boasting and chanting that they have entered the U.S Congress and that the White House is next. This documentary video was aired within a year or two ago by either Fox news or CNN. We can not take this lightly. Mr. OBAMA, you need to publicly and categorically tell American people that YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM and that YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN and that JESUS IS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR. Stop playing around this topic. It is not enough to say you are a member of a church. Even OSAMA BIN LADEN can say that. Christianity is more than being a member of a church and it is more than having the best choir in the world. That is a joke and an insult to Christianity. Becoming a Christian is like having a spiritual heart surgery and when it happens you are excited to talk about it without being ashamed and it will show in your words and action. Christianity will make you to be PATRIOTIC too. So please come out and declare who you really are and stop insulting American people by saying you are a member of a church and have the best choir.

I do question Senator Obama's patriotism. Whether you say the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Star Spangled Banner, you do show respect. People in uniform salute. People in civilian clothes place their right over their heart. What they do not do is stare blindly off into space. If Senator Obama cannot show respect during the singing of our National Anthem, then he has no business being a U.S. Senator let alone running for President of the United States.

Obama only ment to say that black people or half black people were welcome to worship at his church. He may not be muslim, but his church is just to racist for my comfort.

"First it was a little flag pin on his lapel that he refused to wear, and now this. Whether it be the 'Pledge of Allegiance' or the 'Star Spangled Banner', Americans place their hand over their heart. I didn't have a problem with his Muslim unbringing, by I to question his 'patriotism', but only because of his actions."

Wow, what a great view! You can totally trash the constitution, undermine human rights, shame America and its history as long as you wear a little US flag pin when you do it. You, sir, are the epitome of why this country is currently in the toilet.

HE IS NOT A MUSLIM! SAY IT WITH ME FOLKS! HE IS NOT A MUSLIM!

The guy who took the oath of office in a Quaran was Keith Ellison, a US House Representative from Minnesota: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison_%28politician%29

But I guess for people as closed minded as you are, all black people are the same, right? Just like all Muslims are terrorists?

CNN needs to make you pass a US History 101 quiz before posting

Wow, Clintons must be getting desperate. So good they will be out of the picture soon, I was sick of her mullet head.

Please folks! Let's stop the cynicism and re-aatract our focus on the big picture. Don't be so pessimistic. America is a country despite its many challenges, going on the right path. The President has done a really nice job trying to correct some of the weaknesses in our security institutions. The economy has been very strong. He's initiated the debate over some of the fiscal challenges that lie ahead. It's important that the next President (Dem or Rep) work on trying to pick up where Pres. Bush left off and continue to fight terrorism, look into solutions for social security and medicare, try again at some sort of an immigration overhaul and continue to expand trade.

Please, let's focus which candidate will best be able to accomplish these things as this country moves forward.

(quote)If hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran, he made a big deal about it. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America.(end quote)

Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am

You are referring to Keith Ellison, who is the Representative of Minnesota, who took the oath of office on Thomas Jefferson's Quran; not Barack Obama.

You may have noticed, he never said that he was NOT a Muslim, only that "If I were a Muslim I would let you know." Then he goes on to say where he goes to church.
If he said he WAS NOT a Muslim anywhere, I apologize.

My family and I, including my 2 year old son and 11 year old daughter put their hand to their heart whenever something patriotic is displayed, recited or performed. As a potential leader of the FREE world, one would think RESPECT is one of the main qualities one would possess. You remove your hat when indoors, you offer your seat to your elders and you shake hands with soldiers. You change your name to a good old fashioned AMERICAN name and you put your hand on your heart when ANY one of our ANTHEMS is played. This is how you win the presidency.

Ike, Woodbridge VA...As a southern white male and I consider myself very diverse, I could not agree with you more, I am not supporting Obama because I feel that Hillary has the most experience BUT if Obama is the Democratic nominee yes I will support him...being a white male democrat in the south is not always easy..

E J, Phoenix, AZ...you said,
"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!"

Actually...that is a defense. It's not required that we put our hands to our hearts when sing the national anthem. It never has been. If you don't like the guy, fine. But don't resort to ingorant and jingoistic comments like that.
As for job experience...everyone in the world lacked experience at one point or another. You get experience by getting the job. Obama wouldn't be running the country by himself. We've had to deal with a moron in the White House for so long that anyone would be better than what we have.

Its pathetic that this is what presidential campaigns have come down to.

I think a closet muslim that is black and running for president in todays world is a good statement about America. The fact that he is a democrat even speaks louder. So, when you liberal wig heads go off on this country on how bad we are..........Please just look at your own party......before you spread your gloom and doom propaganda.

Now, I disagree with Obama on a lot of issues, but I have to say, attacking him like this is not only stupid, it's horrendous.

1. By assuming he is Islamic because of his race, this exemplifies racism.
2. Even if he were Islamic, who cares? Last I heard, anyone is allowed to take the presidency regardless of religion. If you agree with his platform, his religion should mean absolutely nothing.

I thought democrats hated anyone who happens to be a Christian?

To put an end to these Quran rumors, the Representative who took an oath on the Quran was Keith Ellison, not Barak Obama.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2007&m=January&x=20070104154843ndyblehs0.6852838

And this was an informal ceremony. The formal swearing-in of Representatives uses no holy book at all.

Reading these comments makes me embarrassed to be American. We launched a war of aggression under the leadership of an elected drunken corrupt idiot with totalitarian tendencies, but we don't think twice about it. But this very intelligent, articulate man with a voting record that speaks to very strong principles is accused of being "Muslim," as though that's a sin, and castigated for not putting his hand over his heart?

"Hey, launch as many wars as you want, destroy the economy fine, just be sure to go to the right church and keep your hand on your chest for the symbolism."

Is that really what we stand for?

Jesus Christ, would you people knock it off? Let's worry about something important...

. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America.

Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am
I do not believe he is muslim first of all. But even if he was that does not mean bye bye America. That pretty much was the most ignorant statment possible. The taliban extremists were the ones who attacked us not the muslim people. People please get your facts straight

No, Obama's not unpatriotic. He would just illegally invade yet another nation and create bigger government. That's only isolating the US and generating more hate against it. Not unpatriotic at all! See?

Seriously: rather, Google Ron Paul.

psst...Hillary is a Wiccan...pass it on.

Reading some of these comments, I am starting to think that it won't really matter who our new leader will be. Our own populace will be our demise.
Posted By CitizenJ : November 14, 2007 9:20 am

I could not have said it any better.
I am amazed at the ignorance of the voting population. We are getting so fat and lazy in this country to even do our own research and find out facts for ourselves. Ignorance should be declared "America's New Enemy"

If you go by their deeds rather than their words, Obama is a better Christian than George Bush is, and most certainly a better one than Clinton was.

Boy, oh, boy ... the inmates are sure running the asylum. Everybody is getting the vapors over where Obama's hand was at a particular time. Grow up, idiots.

Sure you will. Mr. I will sneek out back to smoke a cig. I not faulting you if you were, but you know and I know you would not even be able to get in this race if you were and it would be political death if you did ............right or wrong. simple truth...Other wise I believe you but my question is rather or not your father was muslim

1. A candidates religion is IRRELEVANT.

2. Anyone running for public office should show proper respect to the flag, national anthem etc., however, abstaining from placing one's hand over one's heart during the Star Spangled Banner is NOT grounds to question one's patriotism. Really, don't we have more important things to worry about?

That said - I would never vote for him any way. He has no experience, and his ideas are downright dangerous. But religion and petty insults do not reflect well on the American people, and have NOTHING to do with a candidates ability to represent and lead our nation.

f hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran, he made a big deal about it. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America.
Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am

Chris,
You are such an idiot and don't even know or understand the facts. Get your facts straight or shut up. Obama never took the oath of the Quran, it was Elliot from MN. I thought highly of people from Oklahoma but you are an exception.
Secondly, Obama is a Christian and a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where I live. I attend the Church and I know what he is talking about. So until you are ready to leave the uninhabited Porum, Oklahoma and come to the city and see for yourself...do humanity a favor and shut up!!!
Thirdly, look where the professed so-called born-again Bush has led this country–into hell for all practical purposes.

"Obama didn't do much for Illinois except raise taxes. He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience.

Posted By xtina – chicago il"

Two questions for you... #1 Are you really from Illinois? Cause if you are then you know that your statement about only raising taxes is extremely FALSE!
#2 Did you not read the story on Monday on CNN noting how instrumental Barack was in overhauling the death penalty in Illinois? For some reason I honestly beleive the answer to #1 is "No" and #2 is "Yes" and you are only here trolling! Come on get a life!

If hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran, he made a big deal about it. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America.

Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am

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Chris, please take the time to educate yourself. Obama DID NOT take his oath to the senate on the Quran! Only one individual in the history of the United States has EVER done this...and it wasn’t Obama nor was it an oath in the Senate! It WAS Keith Ellison from Minnesota during his pledge to the House of Representatives!

If you don't take the time to research the facts, you shouldn't be allowed to vote! Quit spewing RNC rhetoric and learn the facts!

The hatred for muslims in this country is sickening, and goes against the very principles of Christianity (you know, the actual teachings of Christ, rather than the Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson hate/spin machine).

Your ignorance and racism are appalling and sad.

Why are there so many jerks that post replies to messages like this? He's running for office so I guess that makes it ok for us to act like 4 year olds. Look, either you agree or disagree with his policies but grow up and stop acting like little babies. Save all the drama for issues in your personal lives. Can we just be a little mature and talk like people and not just yell stupid one liners and crap? Sheesh. Everything is not a TV show.

How incredibly unitelligent many of you are. The individual who was sworn in on the Quran was Keith Ellison, NOT Barack Obama. It is interesting how most of you speak with such confidence in your discussion on politics and global affairs, as it seems most of you are merely anti-Muslim bigots who really have no knowledge of politics. I suggest reading a book...Maybe even a few books...

I agree, this is sad. To the person who said that Obama only said he was a member of a church, not a Christian, he said he belonged to the Trinity United Church of Christ – "Christ", meaning he is a Christian. To all you who are so convinced that he is a Muslim, please show me some proof. and why is he considered a "so called Christian"?

These are some of the most ignorant comments I have ever heard and this is why our politics are in the shameful state they are in.

People: The man was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review...he taught Constitutional law...8 years in the IL State Senate...only the third African-American since reconstruction elected to the US Senate

How the heck is this guy not qualified?
Have you looked at who is running the country right now?

Go Barack!!!

People actually think he's Muslim?

That's pretty funny!

obama sounds like a terriost name . i beleive he is a terriost and he is trying to be president to destroy the country. every one knows he is terriost in the country so why vote for somebody that is a terriost

Barack was not the representative who was sworn in on the Qu'ran. That was a representative from Minnesota. Mr. Obama is a senator from Illinois. The majority of Americans-you know who I'm talking about- are afraid of non-white people, especially if they don't have traditional American names. Just look at the evidence presented last year about jobs who discriminate against applicants based on if a name "sounds black." And even Europeans that immigrate to the USA feel pressure to change their names. I'll support Barack Obama. He is more genuine than any of these lazy, machine driven career politicians.

are people confusing barack obama and keith ellison (the muslim from MN?). ellison is the one who took the oath on the koran. my guess is that since obama is dark-skinned and has a name like osama, people are subconsciously getting mixed up.

He may not be a Muslim (anymore), but the church he attends in Chicago preaches hatred toward whites. We don't need a leader like that.

"If hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran, he made a big deal about it. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America."

Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am

That was Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minnesota), who last November became the first Muslim elected to the House of Representatives. I'm not the smartest person around, but I'm smart enough to know that Minnesota and Illinois are two entirely different states, the House of Representatives and the Senate are two entirely different houses of Congress, and Barack Obama and Keith Ellison are two entirely different people.

If you honestly believe that a person's religion is a qualified reason to keep him or her out of a political office, you ought not vote, because you obviously don't believe in the Constitution of the United States or the First Amendment therein. I see a lot of people throwing hissy fits over the flag and then trampling on or ignoring the Constitution. Which of those two items established our government and guarantees our rights–the flag or the Constitution? Get your priorities straight or don't you dare call yourself an American.

Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Why did someone upthread ask if Obama accepted Jesus as his lord and savior? I am an atheist and would prefer that the person with his or her finger on the nuclear button did NOT BELIEVE in the 'rapture' or 72 virgins or whatever junk is preached about what happens after you die. I want the president to make the country better in THIS LIFE – the only one that we all know about for sure!

Not only is being Muslim not a bad thing...

BARACK OBAMA IS NOT MUSLIM.

He never was. He's a devoted Christian.

Please, Americans, let's focus on the real issues: Character, Judgement, Trustworthiness, and the abiliity to unite our country.

Obama '08 – the obvious choice, if you ask me.

So what Obama if he is Muslim, the socalled Christians are showing the world much. We are fighing a war predicated on a lie about weapons of mass destruction. Furthermore if you have a shotgun, how can you tell me I can't have an equalizing weapon. All religious faiths have wage war and havoc since and before recorded history.

Its threads like this that remind me that at least 30% of Americans are complete idiots. Take a country to war based on lies, ok. Undermine our basic principles of human rights, no problem. Errode our freedom while justifying wars to brings others the freedoms we are seeing reduced at home, cool. Get a picture snapped of my without your hand over your heart during the national anthem or have a name that isn't waspy, OH! This guy can't be trusted. Unreal and embarrassing people!

>>Posted By Chris, Porum Oklahoma : November 14, 2007 8:37 am
>>If hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran,

He didn't. Do your own research.

He IS a Muslim. Why else would a Christian American use the Koran to swear into office? It doesn't make sense. The guy is a liar and a phoney just like all the rest of the candidates.

Reading some of these comments, I am starting to think that it won't really matter who our new leader will be. Our own populace will be our demise.

How many of the people who have said that a Muslim shouldn't be president are bigots and how many are just Internet trolls?

Bobbie Ray: Dude is seriously confused. Do you think that Jews and Muslims go to church on a regular basis?

Lora: Troll
Chris: Bigot

And to E J and Hank: Ever been to a baseball game? Watch the Olympics? People don't put their hands over their heart for the national anthem. So yes, it IS a defense.

Whoever posted that Obama took his oath on the Koran is thinking about Rep. Keith Ellison. So, that clears that up.
The problem here does not seem to always be that people are just finding a way that they think they can attack a person. I believe that people are given wrong information and honestly believe it. Everyone just needs to get their facts straight.
And, yes, Barack Obama has repeatedly referred to himself as a Christian. And , no, he did not convert from Islam. He has always been a Christian.
Just wanted everyone to have the facts, if these are the kinds of things that matter to you.

The attacks against Obama claiming that he is a Muslim are not justified.

However, neither is his ignorance the the US Flag Code and proper flag etiquette.

During the playing of the national anthem, one does not stand there and scratch himself. He faces the flag of our country, renders the proper respect to the flag. Being a Civilian that means remove headgear and place right hand over heart, then if you thing you can carry a tune go for it and sing along, but if you are going to attempt and represent yourself in public do know the proper etiquette or be prepared to look like a fool.

How soon after barak hussien obama becomes preident will he introduce sharia law?

Are we ready for allah the moon god to be supreme in this land?

Save the last comment, I can't believe how ignorant most of these posts are.

Oh, so you people wouldn't vote for a muslim, just because of "world affairs"? Really? Or is it you never would because you're an uneducated moron who thinks being Christian equals being American?

Once a muslim always one? Really? And how much study did you do about Islam to figure that one out? Someone should've told me then...

Hit a nerve and you wonder why? Okay, if you need a response, it's because this whole debate over what religion he is and how patriotic he is is utterly stupid, and it's only republicans who cannot defend their party's actions that raise those false arguments.

You know what would be great? If for once I could see that people cared about the actual issues – endless false-pretense war, healthcare, education funding – and it didn't come down to trying to prove how American you are.

You know what? We're all Americans, even the ones that don't look like you hicks out there – like you've got a monopoly on who's American!

Wow! Such small minded people who have access to computers. Chris in Oklahoma, you are confusing Obama with the guy from Maryland or Massachusettes. Not all Black people or Black men are inter-changable. Do you research and homework, and know of what you speak before you speak it. I respect Obama for saying let them challange or question me on my policies as opposed to if I am a Muslim. That is SUPPOSED to be the issue, not religious beliefs. And to whoever mentioned Christianity, thank you! Christianity does not equate goodness. There are mass murderers, rapist, thieves, drug addicts and presidents who consider themselves Christians. . .

I am very dissappointed to see some of the responds here. How does being a Muslim = to being unpatriotic?? Obama is Giuliani wanna be on the Democrat side. I still highly believe that majority of Americans will select a white Muslim to be a president, rather than a black Christian to be a president. Race war in America is not over yet!

Senator Obama – Your excuse that you weren't reciting the Pledge of Alliance,you were singing the Star Spangled Banner should have everyone concerned. In case you didn't know it, the Star Spangled Banner is our National Anthem – the National Anthem of the country you are trying to become the leader of. Someone should have informed you before now that you stand up, face the flag, put your right hand over your heart while singing the National Anthem.And also if you wearing a hat, you remove it. Shame on you for such a cop out response. As a Commander in Chief wannabe you should know better!!!

Yea Right ...no way a Muslim would ever win the whitehouse and that is not being insensitive , that is just being realistic. So there is no way Obama would be that stupid to really tell us if he was a muslim or not. I think the church he attends now is almost as bad as radical muslim. The church he attends now is very racist and the Preacher there spews hate and division.

That wasn't Obama that requested to be sworn in on the Qaran, check your facts. who cares if he's muslim, christian or some other made up fairy tale "religion", if you're looking for a reason to not vote for him there's only one that you need – he's a democrat. Re-elect NOONE. Dem or Rep.

-CHRIS FROM PORUM OKLAHOMA–

YOU MUST RESEARCH YOUR FACTS THOROUGHLY BEFORE MAKING SUCH IGNORANT STATEMENTS.IT WAS CONGRESSMAN KEITH ELLISON FROM MINNESOTA AND NOT SEN. OBAMA WHO TOOK HIS OATH OF OFFICE ON THE QURAN.

1- He is not a Muslim. But who cares if he is? The current "Christian" in the White House hasn't done such a great job.
2- You do NOT need to put your hand over your heart for the Star-Spangled Banner. That is reserved for the Pledge of Alliegance.
3-Everyone please stop being ridiculous.

First it was a little flag pin on his lapel that he refused to wear, and now this. Whether it be the 'Pledge of Allegiance' or the 'Star Spangled Banner', Americans place their hand over their heart. I didn't have a problem with his Muslim unbringing, by I to question his 'patriotism', but only because of his actions. Someone please find a Democrat who isn't power hungry or totally unworthy of the American trust, and maybe someday I will stop voting Republican.

Hmmm, wouldn't it be nice if we could get away from this whole Republican vs Democrat scene and just vote in some honest Americans!

If you are a true Democrat, and you understand southern politics, you should know that a vote for Obama will be a wasted vote. If Obama wins the Democratic nomination, it is guaranteed that our next president would a Republican, because Obama will not win any southern state in the general election. He is as black as I am, and even southern white Democrats do not vote for blacks in federal elections. Remember folks, what happened to Harvey Gantt, in the senotorial race against Jesse Helms in North Carolina in the early to mid 90s. Hillary is our best hope. She has the money, organization and experience. We cannot afford to lose to the Republicans again.

Hatred is alive and well in America. Afraid of a black man, folks choose to sling the mud and spread hate and lies.

I think at the bottom of all of this is Idiot America, afraid of a smart talented black man.

Don't worry Idiot America the truth never got in the way of you making a intelligent decision on anything.

The statement that we were singing the Star Spangled banner not saying the pledge of allegence bothers me. Title 36 of the United States Code, Section 301 (former 170), regulates the Conduct During Playing: During a rendition of the national anthem:
(1) when the flag is displayed – (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart; (B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and (C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and (2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.."
Thus Barack still has it wrong.

This is sad that such a wonderful candidate is being attached by the right wing with email attacks.

There is no place for questioning religious beliefs of the candidates..when the United States consitution is based on freedom of relition. Why someone cares about the religion of the candidate?

People wake up...and let the candidates focus on responding to real issues..and not about their religion.

According to flag etiquette you put your hand over your heart and face the flag or the music(if there is no flag) during the national anthem. He obviously needs to have this taught to him.

n response to michelle the Idilots comment, yes we did come here for religous freedom, Christianity, and Muslims are a cult, a cult that vows to fight christianity, why dont you check his background, he took an oath under the Quran, if he is such a christian, then wouldnt that have violated one of the ten commandments, and he never says hes an actual christian, he says he goes to church, hes a liar, we dont need him as president, if he wins the election, we will be saying one nation under allah.

>>>Has Obama ever come out and said publically that he is a Christian or that Jesus is his Lord and Savior?

I fail to see how that is relevant. A person's relationship with his or her God is a private matter. Matthew 6:5-6: "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....when thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou has shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...."

Furthermore, I don't see what someone's faith, lack of faith, or type of faith has to do with their ability to lead this country, unless they are so blinded by it that they forget that they are leading a country filled with people who follow hundreds of different faiths who all need equal representation, treatement and recognition under the law.

Would I vote for a Muslim? If he or she were the person I judged best for the job, yes. The same with a Hindu, Buhhdist, Wiccan, Morman, Animist, Agnostic, Athiest, or even a Christian.

It is idiotic to question someone's patriotism because he didn't have his hand over his heart.

America, if you think that repeating something that you learned in grade school makes you a patriot, you seriously need to grow up.

It's deeds, and not words, that count.

So this is what the worlds foremost hegemonic power has evolved to? It's like we want someone in office who is capable of bashing on their opponents the most instead of their clear, concise responses to domestic and international situations. And you wonder why most of the world cant stand Americans?

Obama is not a Muslim.
There is no such thing as a closet Muslim. Get over yourselves.

Although I plan to support a candidate other than Barak Obama, I find the email, received yesterday, to be disgusting and against every shred of decedency imaginable. It recalls the one circulated four years ago about John Kerry's wife, and it's hard to believe that otherwise good American citizens would hit the "send" button, perpetuating such slanderous untruths.

Are you guys kidding? That muslim crap was just dirty journalism. CNN didn't even cover it because "We did something known in the journalism world as 'doing an investigation' before running the story", a rare great moment from Wolf Blitzer and an obvious jab at FoxNews.

Barack Obama has been a practicing Christian for years. He made a speech last year on "Faith in Politics" that many in the media and religious hierarchy were calling the most genuine, heartfelt, and powerful speech about religion in the role of government that they had heard from a politician. You should seriously check it out if you want to hear a speech about religion and it's role in today's society without the muddled down crap that most politicans deliver.

check it out at http://www.barackobama.com (it's long though, about 40 min, but i promise you that by the end you are astounded and confident in the religious values of the nation's best candidate.)

"Has Obama ever come out and said publically that he is a Christian or that Jesus is his Lord and Savior."

It's sad that you consider this a qualification rather than his stance on the issues.

"...given the current state of world affairs, I would never put a Muslim in the Oval Office."

Forgetting the extremists for a moment, you don't think this attitude helps to keep the level of mistrust up between Muslims and Christians.

Interesting that Obama does not say that he is a Christian. Obama only says he is a member of a church. Has Obama ever come out and said publically that he is a Christian or that Jesus is his Lord and Savior.

Posted By bobbie ray : November 14, 2007 8:27 am

Since Article VI of the US Constitution states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States", Obama's religion is immaterial, except to the narrow-minded so-called "Christians" out there who will only vote for "their kind".

I was raised Catholic, but I've become so disgusted with the actions of all the so-called "Christians" (especially the right-wing fundamentlaists) that I no longer consider myself a Christian. I refuse to be linked or associated in any way with these hate-filled people.

This man has no real leadership experience, he has a questionable muslim background which really can't be confirmed nor denied, he wasn't raised in America for most of his childhood, he won't honor America in the basics, (pledge or song), he doesn't know that anytime the national anthem is played a person is suppose to salute (those in uniform) or place his right hand over his heart, which tells me he's never been to an American sporting event! Come on, open your eyes to the details, if he can't be faithful in the small things how can we trust him with the big things?

The best thing Obama has ever done was his Best Western/Comfort Inn Hotel commercials ... I've beem ever where man. Keep up the good work Obama.

I feel that the comments posted on this story so how ignorant the American people can be. All Muslims are NOT terrorist and do NOT participate in suicide bombings ! And since when did being a Christian make you the best person on earth anyway? I feel that these attacts on Sen. Obama are extremly superficial and sad. I guess no one remembers that this Country was founded partly because people wanted freedom to choose their own church and not worship the way the King demandned.

Obama, whether it's the Pledge of Allegiance or the Star Spangled Banner, you still should place your right hand over your heart to show respect for the flag and for those who have died for it. I hope the Pastor's at Trinity United Church of Christ are instilling in you to bring GOD back into the classrooms. I'm sure your Pastor has told you he is the answer to ALL problems, so I assume you'll fix this once you get in office.

Which would you hire to cut your lawn? Hillary or Obama? Seems like a silly question doesn't it? I think you will find that the person you can trust and the person who talks straight to you will vastly more capable of representing you in the world arena. Obama really comes across as an intelligent person. We need someone like this in the White House. I'm sick and tired of Bush/Clintons who lie constantly to satisfy personal agendas. Vote Responsibly.

If hes not a muslim, then why did he take the oath of senatro in illinois on the Quran, he made a big deal about it. He was saying that his religious right were being violated. Hes a muslim, theres no doubt about it, if he wins this election, bye bye America.

I didn't realize being called a Muslim is derogatory in America. Do Americans now consider being Muslim an unpatriotic act? It's getting ridiculous.

What's wrong with someone being proud of their church and choir? You've already elected a former movie star and now an alcoholic to run the country. What's wrong with a guy who's a successful attorney and a state senator having a shot at turning around the mess that's already created?

Senator Obama, this is a great sign. People cannot find anything unethical about you so they will invent any kind of unsubstanciated lie to try the strenght of your caracter. When you win the presidency, all americans will win regardeless of their political or religious beliefs, international diplomacy and peace will be given a real chance. WE ARE WITH YOU.
For all out there... it would be in everybody's best interest to concentrate and focus on real issues that afflict the american people and the rest of the world so you can make an intelligent and responsible choice when election day comes. THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ALL OUR CHILDREN ARE AT STAKE.

Obama can't be trusted. His excuse regarding why he didn't have his hand over his heart is bogus. With Obama, Hillary doesn't need to wage a dirty campaign against him. So is he or is he not a Muslim? Once a Muslim always a Muslim. Did he become a so called "Christian" because of a political gain?

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And yet he still didn't put his hand on his heart. What's his definition of patriotism???

Regardless of whether it was the Pledge of Allegiance or the Star Spangled Banner, Obama was wrong for not putting his hand over his heart. Not only is it part of the United States Code (Title 36, Subtitle I, Part A,
> Chapter 3 Section 301), but it shows his patriotism or lack therof. This has nothing to do with religion or race or otherwise, it has to do with love of Country.

Obama supporters can't have it both ways. History and tradition have taught us that whether you are singing the National Anthem or reciting the Pledge of Allegiance you still hold your right hand over your heart. Not doing this as a Presidential Candidate is INEXCUSABLE. It is not unreasonable of the people to expect someone who wants to be the future leader of the Free World to show a little more respect to the nation he is trying to represent.

Also on the having it both ways comment. I hope Obama supporters really don't think that all of these negative stories staying in the press didn't have a little to do with the Obama and Edwards campaigns. They all do it. Why is it wrong if Hillary's camp digs up and puts dirt out about Obama, but if Obama does it to Hillary it's excusable?

Funny, I thought we wanted to be sworn in swearing on the Koran and not the Bible when we won his current position. What does the Church of Christ think of that?

Would a Japanese man been elected president in 1944? No, he would have been busy in his interrment camp. Wake up US! This is the enemy.

All this time I believed that Mr. Obama was Muslim. Forgive me for my ignorance, but given the current state of world affairs, I would never put a Muslim in the Oval Office.

Now that I know Mr. Obama is not a Muslim, he has moved into my top picks for the President of The United States.

Interesting that Obama does not say that he is a Christian. Obama only says he is a member of a church. Has Obama ever come out and said publically that he is a Christian or that Jesus is his Lord and Savior.

people only want him to be a muslim to have a reason not to like him.

i am no obama fan. but he does excite many people.

his positions make no sense. he mud slings like the rest of them, among the best of them.

he is no different than hilary.

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

Did he just say that ? Doesn't sounds like him ? HA.....

I wonder why media doesn't talk about Meet the Press this week, interview of Obama. Why ? Check it out. You can watch and read whole transcrip of Tim's Meet the Press in MSNBC. Get the truth. Get the fact. He doesn't have what it takes to lead this country, period. Without solid records and experience, counting on the "powerful speech" only "just won't do for this election"

Obama: If you're hoping to become the Commander-In-Chief...then you need to understand that all military personnel and veterans: active, seperated, or retired–have expectations about what the CIC is expected to do on occasions when: the flag is raised/lowered; during the Pledge of Allegiance; and yes, even when the Star Spangled Banner is played. You can't lead these folks w/ smoke, mirrors, or just good ideas...you must lead by example!! The ignorance of this is what riled those men and women–or just your arrogance. If you expect to lead the Armed Forces and get their respect–you will need to earn it. And placing your hand anywhere but in salute or over your heart during any flag honoring ceremony–won't earn it for you.

During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart.– UNITED STATES CODE, TITLE 36, CHAPTER 10, SEC 171

"Patriotism" – America's new and improved bigotry!!

You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience.

Posted By xtina – chicago il : November 13, 2007 6:05 pm

George W. Bush only had experience with failed businesses and a baseball team that he ran into the ground, and people were stupid enough to vote for him.....

Yes, The Trinity United Church of Christ... The one that amended their mission statement after Obama announced his candidacy from this:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.”

to this:
A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

I wonder why???

Don't believe me? Check this out: http://www.therant.us/staff/rush/print/02202007.htm

he was educated in a madrassa, why do they make it sound like a bad thing?
madrassa means school in arabic.

This is clearly ridiculous, ad hominem attacks, folks let's start talking about real issues! What does this really have to do with the current situation in America.

If he is not Muslim why did he once use a Koran to be sworn in? Or is that a vicious lie?

Since when do we not put our hand over our heart when sing the Star Spangled Banner and I find it very strange on the second answer that you don't just say that you are a Christian believing in Jesus Christ? Being a member of a church doesn't make you a Christian. He seems more interested in the choir than the actual question.

Question . If you knew had a chance at becoming the next president of the USA and you really were a Muslim , would you let it be known . I think NOT .

This is just another racist and unfounded attack on Obama. It truly shows how racist America is. Its actually very sad, if he was schooled their, how does that have anything to do with him running for president. Cause America is racist against, muslims, blacks, and hispanics. Its very sickening.

Candidates beliefs are fair game for discussion by voters, but this is over the line. these claims are a politically motivated attack that propagate a lie, seeking to confuse voters by making the candidate a subject of suspicion. the merits of this claim have been disproven. its continued propagation is dishonest and just another instance of the dirty politics that have reached a fevered pitch in the Bush-Clinton era of electoral politics.

If you think having leadership experience is an absolute must to be president, look at the huge mess our current "leader" has gotten this country in. Obama will win Iowa and the presidency.

He was raised as a Muslim and then converted right before entering politics. They need to investagate a little more.

People you need to get over it! SO WHAT he didn't place his hand over his heart?? SO WHAT?? It doesn't make him any LESS of an AMERICAN. Find something better to talk trash about. Everything he is 'accused' of goes rite back in the face of whoever it is doing the accusing. Some people act like 8 yr olds with the name calling and ridiculous BS.

The fact that the "madrassa" issue keeps coming up in a negative light against Senator Obama just irritates the daylights out of me. Simply translated from Arabic, "madrassa" only means school. Why is the fact that he attended "school" turned into something scary and sinister?

I think Ted Turner should start another real news network. And if he sells it, and it turns into People Magazine like CNN did, he should start another real news network. And if he sells it...

Who cares if he's muslim. Look at the dirty shine. You want this dirt running this country?

Even if it was the Star Spangled Banner he should have his right hand over his heart, this anti-American jerk. Even Hillary who does not know the words to the anthem and hates what this country stands for, had the sense to place her rodent little hand on her fat chest...

This has Clinton finger prints all over it. They are godparents to the politics of personal destruction. Obama might be a quasi-socialist, inexperienced blow hard but he seems to genuinely love his country. I am sure it will all be related to a right wing conspiracy, right Hillary. How pathetic!

I saw this email a last week being passed around at work...and it was titled, "A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS". What is more appropriate and accurate is; "YOU CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER". I find ignorance in anyone giving any credibility to this kind of email spam.

“We were singing the Star Spangled Banner." Oh Sorry, now I understand, that is OK then. Good answer Obama. Just would like to hear one more time, why you do not wear an American flag pin on your lapel please? The reason I ask is because I can not believe your Lame Responses to questions, regardless if political questions or not.

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

That is rediculous. You are supposed to do it for the national anthem as well.

This has the hallmarks of "Clinton" written all over it. It's dirty, mean, covert and timed.

I wouldn't have a problem with him for being a Muslim if he was. My only problem with him is that he'd make a bad President.

Once a muslim always a muslim. Who knows what Obama will be if elected? Do we need to chace it???
Better safe then sorry. We already made a six year mistake. Live and learn,

Here we go again!! are the American public really this naive? well I think not. It just seem to me like people don't want to pay attension to the issues that matters. Such as health care, the economy, war in Iraq and other issues of substance. We are looking for a president that can bring us out of the dilema that we are in. We certainly are not looking for God. We have a God already, so people, stick to the issues and let Obama be.

There are just too many dumb voters around for USA to elect a smart leader like Obama. Petty issues are all what they seem to care about NOT about getting out of an idiot war that is killing thousands and ONLY helping the US military contractors. A nation truly deserves the leaders they elect!

What does it matter what religon someone is when it comes to running our country? Wasn't one of main focuses on founding this country (Freedom of Religion)? Unfortunately I think people are focusing on the wrong things.

if cnn actually sent a correspondent to jakarta to verify if Obama was a muslim or not – they're idiots:

"When the madrassa rumor first surfaced in January, CNN sent a correspondent to Jakarta, Indonesia, and determined it was false."

whoever made that budgetary gaff please stand up!

I believe that Barack Obama is not a Muslim. I also believe that he may not have all the tools necessary to become president but, who does? Conidering President Bush and his leadership skills, I would not be afraid to have Sen. Obama represent me on the world stage.

Doesn't matter what religion Obama is. What matters is that this man can't run this country.

Who cares if he is a Muslim or not? Are you seeing how much prejudice you can stuff into one rumor?
And besides that, do people actually believe 'Christian' leaders have never done anything bad?

Anyone who thinks that saying the socialist Pledge of Allegiance proves you're a patriot is an idiot.

Now that you can't use the "n" word, America's bigots try this. There is not one iota of evidence that Senator Obama was ever brought up Muslim and is, indeed, a long standing memember of the Congregational Church. This church is very open, tolerant and understanding of others. Bottom line. it's mainstream Christian.

As for any Clinton involvement in this dispicable smear attempt, show us the proof those who accuse.

Finally, I do put my hand on my heart when saying the "pledge" and stand with hands at my side when the national anthem is played. Enough of this drivel.

to MR:
The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is no presidential material.

BUT WAIT WAIT,,,i gotta ask ...who did u vote for last election,,just answer please???? MR. The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is no presidential material.

i want to kn ow who U voted for LAST election,,just answer,if u say bush,(which i think u will) then this deal is over!

Its sad that voters are so stupid this rebuttal was necessary. If you believe that email, I have a Nigerian friend trying to transfer money out of the country and he needs your help!

if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; it's a duck.

I hope Obama does hit back hard if he needs to. It's disgusting that his international background and dark skin are being misused to appeal to racist/religious bigotry.

Well, if CNN sent a reporter in January to Indonesia to only find out the story is false... then why are you perpetuating the same story in November? Old news. Rumor mill.

Facts only, please.

typical swift boat BS, this is the sort of politics we get after Karl Rove proved it was OK with the american people. We will get the government we deserve as a nation if enough of us are as dumb as we've appeared in the last 8 years.

I wonder if Hillary planted this question also ?

I dont get it! What is American scare of? Have we not learned from the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, that it is wrong, to assault a man character. I beleive, Mr. Obama is speaking on the soul of this country and I ask myself, When WILL WE AS A COUNTRY LOOK IN THE MIRROR?

WHY ARE PEOPLE CIRCULATING EMAILS?

WHY DON'T THEY COME OUT IN THE OPEN AND SAY IT? COWARDS!! IDIOTS!!

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SWIFT-BOAT SOMEONE, AT LEAST HAVE THE COURAGE TO SHOW YOUR FACE. TOOTHLESS DOGS IN DIAPERS! ! !

BY THE WAY, CONSIDER THIS A WARNING:
“And listen, I am not going to be swift boated at this race. If somebody comes at me I am going to come right back at them hard."

Come outta the Closet Muslim – Your blanten disrespect for our National Anthem clearly demonstrated your "patriotism"

What have you ever did Hero that would classify you as a "patriot"???

"Swift Boating"? Get off the Kool Aid – Dude, You ain't never served ... unless you are counting your Allah

Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school...from age 6 to 10.
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EVEN IT IT WAS A MADRASSA IT WAS WHEN HE WAS BETWEEN 6 AND 10–SO, WHAT! YOU PEOPLE ARE VERY SICK IN THE HEAD, REALLY!!!

SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING HAS REALLY HIT A NERVE WITH HIM. I WONDER WHY???

Posted By Roger Cannon :
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In Response: Because of idiots like you

I'm not voting for Obama based on his lack of experience in washington. I believe a candidate running for the highest office should have a more diversafied resume and that only comes with time. The way Obama handled the e-mail attacks was very impressive. Way to go Obama This is a man who just needs a few more years in washington to be a serios threat for the big chair.I love how he handled the hate snipers with facts and heart felt concern. Hate mongers from both sides need to be run out of town so we can hear what the candidates have to say ,, THEN we can form opinions and spew our thoughts and concerns about them any way we like before choosing a candidate

Hey America wake up. Whats wrong even if the guy is a muslim. Do we have to Judge a person by his relegious belief and not by his action.

If this man will not place his hand on his heart for the Pledge of Alliangence to the Flag or say the pledge. He is not an American, and not worthy to be president.

Oh, come on, Barack. Please devote a little more care to your grammar!

"We got the best choir in town"?????

It would have taken the inclusion of only one little word to make you sound brighter than this. It's, "We HAVE got," not, "We got..." You even could have used the contraction, "we've."

It doesn't hurt to use those helper verbs, does it? It doesn't cost you anything. It's not difficult.

Oh, wait a minute.

Maybe in skipping words and grammatically slip-sliding along he's just talking down to the voting public, trying to better relate to the uneducated masses.

Ugh.

Doesn't he know that you are suppose to put your hand over your heart during the playing of the National Anthem? Maybe he missed that. I guess just standing around as its played shows your ready to be President of this Country

Madrasa (one 's', CNN) is just 'school' in Arabic; plenty of Arab Christians go to 'madrasas'.
The reason I'm mentoning this particular detail of the article is that the rest of the article is incredibly silly. It has no place on the website of a world leader in news.

What a waste of his time. These bogus internet/email messages, gossip, juice – they are really going to derail the purpose of this Presidential race by wasting the time, energy and focus for what is most important to our national interests. Lies are planted by the opposition to try and put a bump in the stride of one who is doing well, is present and succeeding.

I hear this now a days – “…will not vote for Hillary. In fact, I personally don’t know of any Democrat who will vote for her…”

So many people around here with so many friends with so many confirmed votes against Hillary.
It’s disproportionate dogma.
It’s a charade from a few dissenters, a few hundred at most, who consider their recurring angst a reflection of the attitudes of 120 million other likely voters.
It’s hate as certitude, imbalance in love with nonsense.

For what it’s worth, which is litle at all, I know somebody who says that all 27 members of her weekly book club swear that they’ll vote for Hillary.
To which I say, as to all others who’ve seen the light and swear that their vision is true, what’s it prove besides hope’s being mistaken for fact?

I can't comprehend how this whole pledge of allegiance business has gotten so far. I consider myself to be very patriotic, and I haven't recited the Pledge of Allegiance or sung the Star Spangled Banner for 20 years. Who cares where his hands were? And whether he is a Muslim or not? To believe that, you have to be pretty ignorant, since he flaunts his Christian faith quite a bit. But again, who cares if he was a Muslim? It's not Muslims who are trying to destroy our way of life. It's Muslim Fundamentalists. Big difference. Just like it's not Christians who in fact are destroying our country. It's Christian Fundamentalists.

My mother believed this rumor. And she's the type of woman who believes that if it is in print, it must be true.

What is the big dal with being a muslim in America today. You are demonising a whole race of people and it is akin to likening them to Naziz. Please start to take a mature and educated stance on this issue and realise that it is not a bad thing to be a muslim. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and more conerts are so called "white skins" than from any other race.

Am I missing something? I thought it was appropriate to place your hand over your heart for BOTH saying Pledge of Allegiance AND while singing the Starred Spangles Banner. Wow...has he no clue at all?

I saw that email. The only difference, I knew that he was singing the "Star Spangled Banner". As far as if he is a Muslim what would it matter if he was a practicing Muslim. Isn't religion ruining the world right now? We had Osama Bin Ladin a religous conservative who was the mastermind behind 9/11 and it happened because he didn't like Western society. At the same time we have Christians trying to turn the clocks back a few hundred years and essentially doing the same thing. Then we have Hillary who is just like Bush with thier heads in the lap of many Corporations. Now come on people lets talk about policy instead of worring about a candidate's religous beliefs or if he was singing the "Star Spangled Banner" or reciting the "Pledge of Allegiance"
We need to get our country back on track before it gets any worse.

Actually Sen. Obama stood up for hard issues in Illinois and won – I know because my son and his family live there. I get a little tired of the Hillary plants here repeating the "Obama has no experience" line that the Clinton campaign has been feeding. I guess the story is that Hillary Clinton has experience, but that experience is locked away in the Bill Clinton presidential library?

Here are some of Obama's achievements in Illinois. He has done plenty more in the US Senate (including stopping nuclear weapon proliferation, increasing efficient car production, reforming campaign ethics laws, increasing veterans benefits, investigating Blackwater, requiring public disclosure of porkbarrel legislation, and the list goes on).

"If I was muslim, I would tell you"!?!

CNN, is there a reason you feel the need to misquote Obama's quote to make his grammar worse, making him seem stupid? Every little detail counts.

did he actually just bring up "swiftboating" after getting on President Clinton's case for reminding all the Democrats of what Republicans intend to do to them once the general election starts?

okay, He got on Clinton's case for equating the illegal immigration issue to military service, and now he's equating an e-mail rumor to military service? he can't be serious.

Obama is just sleazy.

When the madrassa rumor first surfaced in January, CNN sent a correspondent to Jakarta, Indonesia, and determined it was false.

k, you got your pat on the back cnn. now keep omitting news like the king of spain telling chavez to shut up...

United States Code Title 36 Chapter 3 — National Anthem, Motto, Floral Emblem, and March
§301. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner
The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.

Conduct during playing — During rendition of the national anthem—
when the flag is displayed —
all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

It seems that the Senator doesn't even know the laws regarding this. I think we should be allowed to question his patriotism about this and not wearing the pin. Something is very wrong here.

Obama '08
He's real. He says how he feels.
He's about hope. He's about change. Most importantly, he's for the people.
Vote Obama.

I personally feel Obama looks like and acts like a muslim. His credentails should be checked before he can stand in the race. We stand a big risk of having him as the future President of the most Powerful and responsible nation across the globe.

Bryan, Obama said "we were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance...we were singing the Star Spangled Banner", what is the difference? Singing and saying are connected with patriotism, is it Presidential candidate's patriotism if he doesn't show his respect when people are singing The National Anthem?, what kind of President he will be in the future?
He is not a material for the candidate and he lied to us. Think about his behavior, stop to wear the flag pin, no feeling about Star Spangled Banner and Pledge of Allegiance, where is his mind? I think he is disqualified for the President of United States of America. Bryan, don't you think it is a serious news and related to Obama's politics?

The problem isn't that he he might have been Muslim. The problem is that the church he does belong to is RASCIST. Unless you thought David Duke was a great candidate for national office, there is no reason anyone should vote for Obama. The Muslim rumors actually help Obama by deflecting attention away from the fact he's not only not qualified to lead a divierse nation, but actually committed to a rascist agenda.

Why don't we focus on the really important stuff in this election like gay marraige again, or perhaps "strong leadership," such as that displayed by our President when planes hit the WTC and he sat around reading children's books?

OK...and what is wrong with being a Muslim and patriotism? I am a Muslim American and an American Patriot. Obama = President? Definitley not. He doesn't have my vote. He is dishonest and feels that he needs to change who he is as a PERSON in order to win the hearts of true Americans. I think that is a no-go and only if he knew we can see straight through him.

Well I am glad to see that a man who feels he is qualified to run this country doesn't know enough about it to render proper respect to our flag. You can ask any kid in little league what are you supposed to do when the Star Spangled banner plays and they would know.

He better not be a muslim! Islam is terrorism, and their prophet was a war criminal.

And what is wrong with being a Muslim Barack?

"Not Presidential material". Interesting. – Please explain what this means? We haven't had a good example in years.

This one really reaks of the Clinton machine. Shrillary must be getting really nervous to sink this low. She is frightened and that makes me happy. She will flame out pretty soon now and we can get down to the business of healing our nation. Hillary is so divisive that it will take some time but let's get on with it and try to mend ourselves before we are stuck with 4 more years of the repugnants.
NO to HRC

The Muslim thing is ridiculous, both because it's incorrect and because people act like being a Muslim is inherently bad somehow. Dead wrong on both counts.

This is what is so stupid about elections in our country. We have a candidate here with good policy ideas and a passion for genuine change, and all we can talk about are lapel pins and madrassas.

> "We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!
Posted By E J, Phoenix, AZ : November 13, 2007 6:06 pm

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Calm down there, EJ. The prevailing custom during the pledge is to put one's hand over the heart. Not so with the national anthem.

Next time you're at a sporting event look around. Hands folded in front, hands folded behind the back, hands on hearts. There's no one "right" way to position yourself during the anthem.

CNN lies

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They use the excuse because of the amount of comments they receive not all will be posted, lies lies lies, they say that so if a comment is not to their liking or against the big guys/owners views of who they want to win they will not post it. Cnn is not unbiased reporting

Lies, lies, lies. That's all the Republicans know. They have nothing but failed policies, record corruption and staggering debt. Nothing. So they must lie like they always have. The reason the Republicans are becoming a failed party is because now average people can call them on their BS with a little reasearch via the Net and the Blogs. There was a time when this type of crap would have been taken as fact by many more people than today. Not anymore, and it scares the hell out of the Repubs. because they have NOTHING.

Unless you count hating everyone whose not in their base of support that is. Gays, Blacks, Mexicans, Atheists, and everyone not listed, are not going away so their platform has rotted from under them. Therefore they resort to this.

Vote Democrat in 08'.

Here vote for him
Finally and officially, Barack Obama is running for president. His symbolic announcement, in the Land of Lincoln, called for a new era in politics. Obama downplayed his thin federal experience while championing his record on the state and local level, and he talked about the need to change Washington, set priorities, and "make hard choices."

"What's stopped us is the failure of leadership, the smallness of our politics–the ease with which we're distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions," Obama said in his announcement speech. But a closer look at the presidential candidate's record in the Illinois Legislature reveals something seemingly contradictory: a number of occasions when Obama avoided making hard choices.

While some conservatives and Republicans surely will harp on what they call his "liberal record," highlighting applicable votes to support their case, it's Obama's history of voting "present" in Springfield–even on some of the most controversial and politically explosive issues of the day–that raises questions that he will need to answer. Voting "present" is one of three options in the Illinois Legislature (along with "yes" and "no"), but it's almost never an option for the occupant of the Oval Office.

We aren't talking about a "present" vote on whether to name a state office building after a deceased state official, but rather about votes that reflect an officeholder's core values.
For example, in 1997, Obama voted "present" on two bills (HB 382 and SB 230) that would have prohibited a procedure often referred to as partial birth abortion. He also voted "present" on SB 71, which lowered the first offense of carrying a concealed weapon from a felony to a misdemeanor and raised the penalty of subsequent offenses.

In 1999, Obama voted "present" on SB 759, a bill that required mandatory adult prosecution for firing a gun on or near school grounds. The bill passed the state Senate 52-1. Also in 1999, Obama voted "present" on HB 854 that protected the privacy of sex-abuse victims by allowing petitions to have the trial records sealed. He was the only member to not support the bill.

In 2001, Obama voted "present" on two parental notification abortion bills (HB 1900 and SB 562), and he voted "present" on a series of bills (SB 1093, 1094, 1095) that sought to protect a child if it survived a failed abortion. In his book, the "Audacity of Hope," on page 132, Obama explained his problems with the "born alive" bills, specifically arguing that they would overturn Roe v. Wade. But he failed to mention that he only felt strongly enough to vote "present" on the bills instead of "no."

And finally in 2001, Obama voted "present" on SB 609, a bill prohibiting strip clubs and other adult establishments from being within 1,000 feet of schools, churches, and daycares.

If Obama had taken a position for or against these bills, he would have pleased some constituents and alienated others. Instead, the Illinois legislator-turned-U.S. senator and, now, Democratic presidential hopeful essentially took a pass.

The truth You vote for him we lose
Finally and officially, Barack Obama is running for president. His symbolic announcement, in the Land of Lincoln, called for a new era in politics. Obama downplayed his thin federal experience while championing his record on the state and local level, and he talked about the need to change Washington, set priorities, and "make hard choices."

"What's stopped us is the failure of leadership, the smallness of our politics–the ease with which we're distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions," Obama said in his announcement speech. But a closer look at the presidential candidate's record in the Illinois Legislature reveals something seemingly contradictory: a number of occasions when Obama avoided making hard choices.

While some conservatives and Republicans surely will harp on what they call his "liberal record," highlighting applicable votes to support their case, it's Obama's history of voting "present" in Springfield–even on some of the most controversial and politically explosive issues of the day–that raises questions that he will need to answer. Voting "present" is one of three options in the Illinois Legislature (along with "yes" and "no"), but it's almost never an option for the occupant of the Oval Office.

We aren't talking about a "present" vote on whether to name a state office building after a deceased state official, but rather about votes that reflect an officeholder's core values.
For example, in 1997, Obama voted "present" on two bills (HB 382 and SB 230) that would have prohibited a procedure often referred to as partial birth abortion. He also voted "present" on SB 71, which lowered the first offense of carrying a concealed weapon from a felony to a misdemeanor and raised the penalty of subsequent offenses.

In 1999, Obama voted "present" on SB 759, a bill that required mandatory adult prosecution for firing a gun on or near school grounds. The bill passed the state Senate 52-1. Also in 1999, Obama voted "present" on HB 854 that protected the privacy of sex-abuse victims by allowing petitions to have the trial records sealed. He was the only member to not support the bill.

In 2001, Obama voted "present" on two parental notification abortion bills (HB 1900 and SB 562), and he voted "present" on a series of bills (SB 1093, 1094, 1095) that sought to protect a child if it survived a failed abortion. In his book, the "Audacity of Hope," on page 132, Obama explained his problems with the "born alive" bills, specifically arguing that they would overturn Roe v. Wade. But he failed to mention that he only felt strongly enough to vote "present" on the bills instead of "no."

And finally in 2001, Obama voted "present" on SB 609, a bill prohibiting strip clubs and other adult establishments from being within 1,000 feet of schools, churches, and daycares.

If Obama had taken a position for or against these bills, he would have pleased some constituents and alienated others. Instead, the Illinois legislator-turned-U.S. senator and, now, Democratic presidential hopeful essentially took a pass.

How can anyone support Hillary?

Watch this video and then tell me how you can still support this woman?

Lots of great early-state polls tonight, and good news for Obama who has tied Hillary Clinton in TWO new Iowa polls! Hillary does crush him in a new South Carolina survey though.

"And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!"

You don't put your hand over your heart for that song. What are you thinking?

"Obama didn't do much for Illinois except raise taxes. He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience."
Zero experience is better than any experience, maybe he will actually listen to experts about things instead of acting based on his "knowledge" like our current white house does.

Plus hes not in the pocket of lobbies as much as these other tools are, that is reason enough to vote for him.

Obama didn't do much for Illinois except raise taxes. He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience.

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"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the

People like these two shouldn't even be allowed to vote...Hate to break it to you, but the only experience Hillary has is being the husband of a President. She hasn't done anything either.

Second, to vote for someone because of the Star Spangled Banner?? Give me a break. Anyone can do a better job than Bush, and Hillary is not that person

""We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!"

What are you talking about??? Go to a sporting event and watch people during the Star Spangled Banner - maybe some people put their hand over their heart but far from everybody.

There is NO WAY this Will Smith look-a-like is going to be President of the USA. America isnt ready for a cool, black guy to be in charge. Too bad...but maybe in 10 years or so? Lets hope...

If this guy is elected it really does show how Fat and dumb America has become. No Experience, does not talk anything that has not been said 100's of times by others to be elected blah blah blah, has been totally absent on his states votes because he's to busy pushing his groundless campaign, only supposedly may put his hand over his heart when it is the Pledge of Allegiance(as required) not the Star Spangled Banner, actually tried to say it was and internet trick that showed only him with his hands in front of himself. He was brought up Muslim. We GOT the best choir in town, thats a reason to be President and plus he can't speak in proper terms.
Rah Rah you go Barak Hussein Obama

Out of curiousity, what if Obama really was a Muslim? Or what if he was Jewish, Hindu, or a Buddhist? Does an American's religion really determine whether one is fit to be a presidential candidate? I guess we still have a long way to go...

I'd say that Bryan from Baton Rouge is the only one who's got it right. Who cares about any of this superficial crap that distracts us from legitimate political concerns? E.J. from Phoenix - I'm sure that throughout your childhood you placed your hand over your heart and numbly recited the Pledge because you were told to do so, but we don't all make it a practice to cover our heart during the national anthem, so yes - it absolutely is a defense. And Portland, the guy was trying to lighten the mood up with his choir comment, so stop making judgements based on anecdotes. Read a book, get a clue, and realize that there's more problems with America than a corporate-sponsored two-party system.

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!"

So he is not as fake as other politicians...big deal

The right has really embraced these efforts to play on the fear and bigotry of dimwitted people. He's a secret Muslim educated in a madrasa. Indeed! Barrack is a sleeper cell! Good job in sussing him out! How astonishingly pathetic.

Being a Muslim is not incompatible with being an American.

Hey EJ, he was thinking that singing the National Anthem was a patriotic act in and of itself. Get it? If you watch the vid, he is actually the only candidate singing it.

And if you want more of his "defense", check out this link in which he also states that he has LEAD the Pledge of Allegiance ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE!!!! http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=180214

This whole attack on him is just a ridiculous attempt to play on the fears of uninformed Americans. If you fall for it, shame on you.

I believe this is news and should be in the political ticker, because people care whether the next President is patriotic.... This article shows how honest Obama is.. He did not lie about the situation whatsoever. AND.. Do YOU put your hand on your HEART during the national anthem?! I doubt it.. most people do not, they stand with their hands in front of them, as Obama did. ALSO, please note that Hillary Clinton was just accused of planting questions during campaigns... How HONEST is that? It's not.. It's Clinton that cannot be trusted..

Last thing... How can you gain experience, without being given a chance to gain it? A fresh mind is what is needed in this country!! And besides.. if you think it's experience that he lacks.. would you not have voted for President Kennedy, who was only 43 when elected President?
*THiNK!*

I don't care if he is Muslim or not, I still have no plans to vote for him.

... so what if Obama was a Muslim (which he isn't) ? Is this a Muslim-hating country? Is that the American anti-racism and anti-faschism? There is nothing wrong with Islam; besides, it's the latest of the three big religions from Middle East.

Why does it even matter..
"Cnn Sent a corespondent and determined it was false.."
geez, what nonsense.

CNN..........The word Madrassa means "School", that is all it means, not reilgious school or anything else.. all it means is School. When u translate the word school into arabic u get the word Madrassa, and vice versa. Please understand this .. THANK YOU

Typical white American crap. I knew it would not take long before the bigots would come out of the woodwork.

Proper American etiquette and protocol doesn't require placing your hand over your heart..

Should Obama apologize for knowing appropriate American cultural traditions?

I don't think so. Hillary is desperate and so are the pathetic evil war profiteers..

Obama didn't do much for Illinois except raise taxes. He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience.

Corporations hire graduates straight from college all the time, so I'm guessing the answer would be yes, they do.

Nit Picking! If that's the worse thing they can drum up on Obama then he is one lucky man who has led a good life. I consider voting for him just because he is less full of it then the rest. I'm just looking for honesty and a real desire to help people.

I kind of wish he were muslim. At least if he were truly muslim he wouldn't be attending such a racist church...have you checked out the Trinity United Church of Christ principles on the web? All their goals promote the black community....Obama and his church really need to be a bit more open minded and inclusive!

As a life-long Democrat and a union member for 39 years, I think that you are our best hope to solve the problems of America. I love it when you came to Detroit and told the auto executives what they NEEDED to hear. You are a straight-shooter and someone we can trust. We know you are patriotic and someone who will restore America's reputation. It's probably those 'waco' republicans or hillary's people that are questioning your patriotism. They are just trying to distract you. I believe that you can help the auto industry become competitive again. We need new leadership. We're behind you 100%. Lead on Mr. Obama.

this is who i am voting for, so many people keep talking about experience, look at the mess " experience" has done to our country. we need honesty, not any more experience.

First, if this is how we determine patriotism we are in big trouble here folks. Second, we have major problems in this country which require serious thought, debate, answers and serious leadership to address those issues. Let's not get sidetracked by such inane issues such as this.

Not only zero leadership experience, as xtina said, but he needs to explain why he insisted on using the koran instead of the bible when he was sworn in. He's vague about everything, he has no concrete ideas about how to improve the economy in this country's recession, and he's all smoke and mirros when it comes down to how he genuinely feels about the issues.

This man is NOT presidential material, unless he's a repug in dem's clothing.

I received the email about this story from the usual channels of half-informed, dim-witted, Republicans. In reading about it here, and upon reviewing the comments by others, I was disappointed to see that none of the comments mentioned how the email also tried to slur him by mentioning that "Hussein" is his middle name. Personally, I found that the most offensive. My brothers first name is Mark...should I be concerned that he is molesting hill interns? I have an uncle named Larry, and ironically another named Craig...maybe the two of them are double-teaming men in the Minneapolis airport!

How about someone posting something that is not about mudslinging? We have real issues in the United States and the rest of the world. Real issues that need calm, intelligent, leadership.

Wake up people.

Hey Mr. O.

If you are reading this then you probably are already losing the presidential race, so good luck, but I wanted to ask you another question; Are you a muslim?

I'll drop this address in case you want to answer.
http://www.golden-lamp.com

I'm sorry OBAMA... Not respecting the pledge to the Flag is Unpatriotic!

We need a true patriot like Pete Grasso. http://www.GrassoForPresident.com

This is ridiculous. I don't put my hard over my heart during the star spangled banner. I bet Hilary had something to do with this because there is no dirt about Obama unlike Hilary where you can ask anyone that knows anything and they will tell you a dirty story about her politics. Obama is honest and he doesn't treat me like an idiot, unlike Hilary.

Wonder if anyone watched the video from "Star Spangled Bannergate"..? If you did you would have seen him singing along with the vocalist...and rocking... He was getting down with it.

Among Obama's many postive characteristics... proper use of the subjunctive!

CNN headline: "Obama: If I was Muslim I'd tell you"
Actual Quote: "If I were a Muslim I would let you know"

Better off-the-cuff grammar than CNN's editors. Tisk tisk.

Please CNN let's have a grownup conversation everyone is patriotic and I mean everyone Republicans,Democrats, Independents. Now let's talk about Pakistan,healthcare,the War,economy,Job security,Illegal aliens,Education...........

2000 George Bush : I am an uniter, not a divider.

Result: 8 years of anarchy.

2008 Barack Hussien Obama: I am an uniter, Hillary is a divider.

Result: Atleast 4 years of disaster.

2000 & 2004: George Bush: I am the more likeable guy. The other person is a flip flopper.

Result: Showed the true colors once elected.

2008: Obama: I am the more likeable candidate. The other person is not.

Result: Just imagine.

At least with George Bush, he had been Governer of Texas so he had the experience and track record to back him up.

With Obama, No track record except all votes which were highly liberal lfet-wing voting.

Why should I believe Obama that he will unite? I am not a dreamy eyed person hoping for change. I am a pragmatic realist who has come across many people in US, in world, in business, who talk big. Only those who have a track record, have succeeded. Others were all con, who tried to fool people.

Why would a person jump in the fray with no track record as a uniter? Because the person knows deep down he will never be a uniter and if he waits longer, it will be difficult to fool people.

If you think otherwise, please share your thoughts. Onlyt intelligent, pragmatic people please.

I suppose if he was a crack smoker, he would let us know that, too.

Oh, wait... he is.

I distinctly remember Obama NOT standing in traditional American honor during the Star Spangled Banner (it's on utube – see for yourself) and the flap about his lapel flag... and the fact that this is an issue.... Hello? Born yesterday?

I wish people here would stop using the word Madrassa to mean something awful. It's literal meaning in Arabic is "school", so you would say church madrassa, or elementary madrassa.... it is a shame how things get distorted in the translation.

If you want to see change in how the country is run, vote Obama in 08!

Obama just starts to experience a tip of iceberg of political scrutiny what Hillary Clinton has experienced and endured in the past 15 years. Saying you are nice to Republicans will not stop them attacking you. What a naïve person.

Furthermore, he indeed did not show respect to our national flag as everyone else does. I am an immigrant who became a US citizen in 1998. Every time I hear the national anthem, I put my right hand on my heart after became a US citizen. How can this guy who is the US Senator and running for president of our country does not know this?

yeah ,hit a nervie,the church you joined 3 months before running uhh...
OMG the best choir,that just proves more religious Gospel preaching,to Americans,get" real "get "substance " before you run for "President".

Considering taxes in Illinois weren't raised while he was in the Illinois Senate, I'd say "xtina" isn't really from Chicago. But that's ok.

Its sad that because of your name or apperance you are lumped into a faith category; I look "Jewish" supposedly and have an Italian last name, but I am neither Jewish or Catholic, I'm a proud Lutheran; faith has nothing to do with heritage; people need to realize that.

Kinda sounds like ahmadinajad,,,'if I were a terrorist I'd tell you'...just trust me!! yeah right! Both his father and stepfather were muslim as well as his brother and sister!....he has a lot more connection in that regard than we need in a United States President! By the way check out this 'church' he's a member of...it sounds like all they are interested in is a black agenda!

When will we quit saying "It was the Star Spangled Banner, not the Pledge of Allegiance"? Can someone advise him of what the flag means and that we hold our hands over our hearts while that is played also.

OK, not Pledge of Allegiance.... Now what is the proper etiquette for The Star Spangled Banner!!!! How about hand over heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you have lost the point. Again they are posting negative news in attempts to sway ignorant American votes. I agree with some posters this is not News worthy and doesn’t belong on CNN.
We people are tried of the bickering so conduct your selves in a mature and respectful manner. As representatives we expect nothing less.

do we really need someone named obama in whitehouse.....more confusion..obama..osama...doesn't take much to confuse

The usual tactics of the "morally upright" conservatives. Attack one's patriotism, religious beliefs, dedication to one's country. These people represent the worst of us...

Why did he place his hand on a Koran book instead of the Bible when he was sworned into congress. We are not stupid in America? This is the only leader to do such a thing. Talk is cheap!!!!

If he respects the pledge to the Flag, and disrespects to the Star spangle banner which I conceder as one. Then I don't thank he should be
conceder as a Candidate for the president of the - U.S.A.

Does singing the Star Spangled Banner deserve not much respect then? What a DUMB argument. And yes, the people have every right to question Obama's patriotism or the lack thereof. This pathetic naive hypocrite doesn't deserve to hold the highest office of this land. He can't even properly serve the people of Illinois with his record-breaking absences. What a shame!

The headline for this article said "Obama: If I was Muslim I'd tell you"

Mr. Obama actually used the much more appropriate subjunctive mood, saying (as the article actually quotes):
"If I were a Muslim I'd tell you." I find this very interesting. When I saw the headline on the CNN homepage I thought, "Wow, Obama should have used the subjunctive there, is he that dense?" Does CNN want people to think that?

If anything, it's a misquote.

Remove this or at least change the headline! The "Fact Checker" by Michael Dobbs dispelled this weeks ago as have others. By reprinting it you are irresponsibly promoting the hoax - especially if you don't give us a date or background as to how long it's been around.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2
007/11/obama_nabbed_by_the_patriotic.html

I wouldn't vote for him just on the remote possibility he is!

Cheap lying shot at him...yea, sounds like a Hillary deal to me. I just can't believe the polls, either. This guy's gotta be in the lead. Only one person out of around a hundred I've asked, would vote for her; and I've asked a lot of whites and women! And we've swung to a democratic majority here in this state. So..What's up with these polls?

To EJ in Phoenix: Yes, technically proper behavior during the Star Spangled Banner is to stand and face the flag with an attitude of respectful attention. I wish more people would inform themselves before getting so indignant.

Really? This is what people are attacking Obama with? He didn't hold his hand right during the national anthem?

I could have sworn we had substantive issues like a war and health care and the economy to discuss. I guess I was wrong.

E J in Phoenix:
You seem appalled that Senator Obama did not put his hand over his heart while singing the National Anthem. Many people do not put their hand over their heart while singing the anthem, and in fact if you go to almost any sporting event in this country you will notice that most people there aren't even paying attention, let alone even singing the anthem.

For the past six and a half years we have had a president who has constantly trashed the United States Constitution, has forever tarnished our reputation around the world, has nearly depleted our armed forces with a war which was started on false pretenses (while Bin Laden continues to thumb his nose at us six years after 9/11) - and you're worried about whether or not Barrack Obama puts his hand on his heart???

Sounds like some misplaced priorities (or some phony patriotism).

I'm just wondering, why is being a muslim so looked down upon, in the political world seen as a crime? isnt freedom of religion somewhere in our constitution?

No slight against Obama for any of this, as it is not news. If there is any story here, its CNN's editorial choice to make this newsworthy when it is not.

If I have one cringe with Obama on any of this, it is to use the term "swift-boating" to describe a political attack with no merit as being "swift boated". Kerry rated the truth being told, and the characterization of having been "swift-boated" as he was is to have been judged about past performance not as you say it was, but as your contemporary peers so judged you. Peer review, nothing more, but more importantly, nothing less. If your peers were/are full of crap, then get better peers next time.

Since when did becoming Muslim prevent somebody from being the president of the United States? Oh, I forgot, this is the United States of America. Now it's not blacks and women that can't be president. It's Muslims.

I guess CNN is trying to tame Senator Obama's rise in polls recently.

All other networks reported this long ago where were you then CNN?

Oh, I forgot Hilary is in hiding and has nothing to say therefore in preparing for her to resurface,Obama negativity has to continue.

CNN, be a reliable independent network

I guess he don't like it when he is questioned. No wonder he doesn't vote the wrong way . . . he doesn't vote at all. What a backward idiot.

So what if he was a Muslim? That doesn't make him a terrorist. That would make him a follower of Islam, which is a RELIGION, and not a terrorist organization. Americans are so ignorant to think because someone is black they are Muslim. It's just another sign of how desperately this country needs what his campaign offers: CHANGE.

hey republican nazi fascists, your crap is not going to stick. we will overcome and kick the worst administration of the last 200 years OUT OF OFFICE. So long linbawian,savagian,fox fair and balanced bs artists. get out of our country u dont deserv it

Obama is a good guy, he's honest. The same cannot be said about Hillary Clinton. The Clintons are so shady that they cannot even release their archives. Don't you think that's a little suspicious? Hillary's biggest fear is her records being exposed.

So far the criticism of obama hear is dumb...Very dumb

What is it that bugs people about such an honest, sincere politician. It must be that our political system has been so dominated by liars and thugs recently that Americans can't even spot a good, caring man anymore.

Lets stop wasting time and energy on these petty disagreements. We need Obama because he has a vision for the future and well-articulated policies to achieve that vision.

Obama will not only bring fresh, enthusiastic change to U.S. politics, he will also improve the lives of millions of middle and lower class Americans. Obama will heal our image around the world and catapault the U.S. back into a position where we can lead a coalition of allies not only in a battle against terrorists, but also in the fight against global warming, poverty, and disease.

This truly is a monumental opportunity for Americans to retake their government and unite the world. Please don't let it go to waste.

Obama 08 (and forever)

He isn't ready to be President because he tries to defend himself. We all saw what happen to John Kerry when he didn't respond to negative ads. The idea that he thinks his choir is the best is town makes him not qualified to be president why?....

People please! The guy is trying to be as straightforward as he can with us, and people just aren't use to this type of honesty. When we get another fake Christian claiming to be a compassionate conservative don't go all shocked, as a nation many of us don't know how to react to a guy who is trying to talk straight, not just tough!!!

I guess Obama it hurts when shots at you. Taste of your own medicine. I don't buy any of his crap. He really shattered his image by acting like a Pitbull and attacking other democrats.

" We got" and "You all" and religion is not SUPPOSED to count–just patrionism-which is lacked here.

I remember back in the day they used to judge political candidates on their platform... now we're analyzing religion and how someone stands during various songs. Nice.

E.J. what cave do you live in??? Have you gone to any sporting events or watched any Olympic Games how many people or Athletes do you see placing their hands over their heart at the playing of the National Anthem??? This is just some concocted story designed to get non thinking idiots like you all riled up. This has nothing to do with Baracks patiotism or love for his country!!!

Who cares what a persons religious beliefs are, as long as they are qualified to run this country.

This reminds me of the disgusting email that circulated before '02 and '04 presidential elections that had pictures of the World Trade Center and a completely fabricated lie and video that was supposed to have Ollie North warning the Iran-Contra hearings about Bin Laden and Al Gore stumbling over Osama's name.
It was all a pack of lies tied to the terrorist attacks.
Bin Laden was actually a friend of the US in 1987 when those hearings took place.Oliver North himself said that he was talking about a Libyan terrorist named Abu Nadel and never once mentioned Bin Laden because he didn't know anything about him.In more than 15,000 pages of testimony Bin Laden was never mentioned.

This is how low the conservatives will go to get their candidate and their agenda in the whitehouse.This is just more of the same.

This has 'C-L-I-N-T-O-N' written all over it (as long as we're subjecting the public to media-driven side-stories on the personal lives of candidates, why can't I just throw out the assumption (unfounded, of course) that the Clintons did it?

What's good for the goose...

Oh, and 'Xtina', I am from Chicago, as well. Exactly what tax did Obama raise? He's a US Senator. He cannot just 'raise taxes'. That's an irresonsible statement by an irresponsible person, Xtina. I call you on it and add this...

All I know is that, serving in the US Army, two weeks after taking the oath of office for the US Senate, Obama took Illinois from being in the bottom five states of veterans benefits and took us up to the top 30. Within two weeks. Why do you hate the troops, Xtina?

The obsession you folk have with Hillary Clinton can't be healthy....I mean this is an article about Obama and you have folk talking about Hillary Clinton...if yall are so sure she can't win seems to me you would want her to get the nomination...but therein lies the problem...you guys know who can beat you in 08...I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans aren't donating to other Dems campaigns

Who cares if he is a Muslim? That is nothing but anti-Muslim fear and bias.

Would it matter if the guy is a muslim?geez what the hells a matter with people

Even at this late date in the campaign, I still question Obama's electability in the general, as I do Hillary's. This death wish will end in either an electable nominee or a long slow loss of a slam dunk into the White House.

"The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is no presidential material."

Sounds like he's more presidential than most in my opinion. It's time we had a new direction and somebody that doesn't come from the same mold we've been using since Washington.
BTW CNN your late people were blogging about this over a week ago, not to mention rumors are not news.

Flag pin? Hand over the heart during the pledge? Really? Is this a presidential election or are we starting a pep squad?

Obama is clearly a thinking man who deos not see the world in terms of good vs. eveil. He is too well travelled and his experience is too diverse to pretend otherwise.

America has made mistakes domestically and abroad, big ones. It's America the beautiful, not America the infallable. To question blind patriotism is not unpatriotic; in fact, it's heroic.

The poster trying to mock 'The best choir in town' phrase makes me laugh...it's an expression so you should understand it that way and even if it wasn't what makes it a non-presidential material? It is meant for even the layman American to understand..so knock it off!

"We've got the best choir in town" is actually a great response. What would you have him say Portland guy/gal? It's a response to someone calling him a Muslim. He's saying "I'm not a Muslim, b/c this is where I attend church and I'm proud of it."

EJ in AZ, it's an explanation b/c he's explained before that you place your hand on your heart during a pledge of allegiance...you don't do so when you sing the national anthem.

so being a muslim is now a shameful thing? 1.5 billion people on this planet are muslim. 8 million of them are here and they are productive members of society. how we let being a muslim become a smear campaign is beyond me.

Actually, his defense is no defense at all. You're supposed to put your hand over your heart at the playing of the National Anthem, too. If he's a real patriot, shouldn't he know that?

Obama is least likely to be a Muslim than our your door neighbor. And you better believe this government has looked under the bottom of Obama's feet. We know there are Muslims out there, but it ain't Obama.

"Madrassa rumor" is a polite term. "Madrassa lying smear" is more like it.
There is no limit to the Repugs' dirty tricks.

I am tired of the bipartisan government we have...all of the mudslinging and dishonestly. I want my country back from the war mongers who lied to get us into a war in Iraq that's not only costing us lives of our bravest, but is taking it's toll on our reputation worldwide and at home. I don't trust most of the presidential candidates, but Obama has my complete support. He is one of the few that could unite our country. Joe Biden would be the only other one I see hope for the future with.

People that bye into the "gossip" that goes around meant to deface candidates are those who are party to the destruction themselves. They forward these ridiculous emails before even checking to see if they are correct. When is the last time you took the time to check to see if the e-mail that is forwarded is actually true? I don't listen to any of that garbage without checking it out. ...snopes.com is a great place to find out what is true. Our country deserves for us to know the truth. Look what has happened with the leadership we have had. We need to know the truth about what is going on with these candidates.

Religion should not be a big issue interms of voting for a Presidential Candidates. We need to focus more on how the candidates or the future President can deal with the issues at hand. Muslim, Mormon, or Orthodox Jew, I don't care. Aslong they can fix the mess the is presented before us.

Why some people are so concerned about Obama's religion. Who cares? People have a bad image of Islam because radical terrorists. We also have some radical self called Christians that promote hate and bigotry, people like Russ Limbaugh or Ann Coulter are good examples that of what Christian should not do.

The Clinton attack machine is just getting started. Keep on watching these "circulated e-mails" to keep on popping up in news organizations from the Clinton campaign.

WatchingHillary.com

Don't worry Senator Obama, lies are the weapons of the weak and desperate. Only weak and desperate people will spread them or believe them. Good people whether they're for you or another candidate, won't accept blatant lies. God help anyone who wants their candidate to win so bad that they'd resort to deliberate and malicious lies.

I think the Democrat party has lost its mind. What are they thinking, even allowing a candidate named Barrak Hussein Obama to run this cycle. Is this some kind of message that Americans need to be self deprecating. Obama sounds like Osama who attmepted to destroy the U.S. on 911 by taking out tourism and the economy. Hussein is an evil dictator who we launched an attack against before he could hurt the U.S. Maybe if he changes his name to Smith or Jones yeah Barrack Smith for POTUS... It has a good ring to it.

Even if it was the Star Spangled Banner, he was still supposed to have his hand over his heart! He should know that.

Who would believe this nonsense? The man running for president is not patriotic? Ridiculous. And, if anything, Obama has maybe made his Christian beliefs too much a part of the speeches that he gives. This is downright silly. Lets all just forget this nonsense and simply compare the candidates based on actual policy differences.

"The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is no presidential material.

Posted By Portland, OR : November 13, 2007 6:26 pm "

Hey Portland, you're right. Bush's "Englishifcation" and ability to talk "straightize" with the American public is much more fitting for a President. And, Hillary's condescending and arrogant attitudes aren't much different then Bush, Cheney and company. For all those in favor of continuing the American monarchy with Clinton, move to the UK.

Let's bring back democracy to the USA.

this is the case with America these days.

Hey, I have a great idea... Since the founding fathers were mostly traditional Christians – sorry liberals it's true and documented, why don't we just ask each of the candidates what they really believe?

So, Obama, are you a Christian? Do you believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit? Do you believe that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the virgin Mary? Do you believe he was sinless, died on the cross and rose from the dead? Do you believe that payment was God's required atonement for our personal sins? Do you believe that he is the only way to achieve salvation and entry into Heaven?

Do you believe that those that don't believe and accept this are going to Hell?

I'll bet there are very few politicians that would answer these questions even though most of our founding fathers not only would have made statements affirming these beliefs, many did.

If a politician isn't willing to state something this "core" to his/her values how do we expect to get a straight answer from them on anything else?

Gee "xtina" and your from Chicago? Well my name is Bill and I'm from New York City. Clinton is a carpet bagger born and raised right here a few miles from you in Park Ridge, Illinois, which if you remember correctly is about 15 minutes from the LOOP. Do you know what the LOOP is? Your from Chicago after all? Right? Raised taxes? Didn't do anything? Yeah, nicely posted after another slanderous headline. Get bent.

Bryan of baton rouge and so many others.

Has nothing to do with politics? The substance or specifics of the article may not be but the person involved is running for president so yes it is political. Stop bashing CNN you chose to read it....right?

Viewing the photo of Obama with clasped hands during the "alleged" Pledge of Allegiance, I have come to an undeniable conclusion. Obama is clumsy.

An indepth listing of Barack's experience and voting record from the Illinois Senate...
Obama in Illinois

And no one actually believes he's muslim, or that he's some secret terrorist plant. Just a few crazies trying to stop America's greatest politician in ages... I'm sure Hillary's campaign forwarded that message along to CNN. If THAT is the best swift-boat material the Republicans have to throw at Obama, he is in a VERY GOOD position to win!

Maybe next week, they'll be trying to pass around an email trying to suggest that Obama is actually a white man wearing make-up....

"If I were a muslim, I'd let you know"? Then denouce it you terrorist pig!

calling someone muslim is mudslinging???

I am sure OBAMA is atheist and he is buying Christianity to open presidency gate thats all he is not christian at all and his church is pretty racist.

It will be disaster to the US to have OBAMA as a president.

well everything is already being taken away from america.all they need to do is put someone in office is to take away everything else we got.why get upset about something if you are not guilty.

"He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience."

Well, Hillary's experience isn't much different, and Bush's was laughable. I think his experience was a net negative. Clearly if people care about leadership experience, they sure haven't shown it at the polls.

Why not do something novel and vote on the issues?

So what if he was Muslim? Religion is not a basis for the Presidency of the United States, and now neither is Democracy. Anyway, a mainstream Muslim would at least have some ethics and morals, which are disqualifiers for political office here.

I think this guy is an atheist but chose to be president to buy religious voters. I bet he is not religious at all and he has Muslim influence no doubt!

We all no he is not a president material, he should join HOllywood

10 +years city council Chicago – what an experience. He is defenitly ready to be our next president.

Good to know he won't roll over and do nothing like Kerry did.

He's learned from the mistakes of past incompentent democrats.

I think Obama is exactly what we need. You guys should really read about his past, he's a pretty darn decent guy. His honestly is why I'm voting for him–he tells it how it is, good or bad–sugar coating and leaving out important information is for N. Korean communists... or did we all forget that? I don't care about his religion or race, that's not important at all. He might not have made Illinois a state of which all others are compared, but come on ... really ... he's not (insert your deity/superman).

I think the bottom line is "Obama is Black". There are many people in this country who would rather die than have a Black President. So the rascist folks are using the "M" word to scare the silly, quivering masses.
I particularly would like to see a Clinton/Obama ticket. Maybe then we could move forward and evolve a little bit!

Why should it matter if he was Muslim or not? they're not all fanatics anyway.

I also think that "We were singing the Star Spangled Banner" is a very good excuse.

1. So he's IS NOT Muslim.
2. He DOES NOT accept corporate money for his presidential campaign.
3. He tells it like it is and DOES NOT hide the truth from the American people.
4. He wants to bring our country together.

Sleepless in Chicago

Oh jeez, god forbid Obama be MUSLIM!! Heaven help us! *clutches her pearls and faints dead away*

Seriously...the fact that this would even BE an issue at all (if it WERE true, turns out it's an issue even when it's not true!) just shows how backwards and intolerant the Christianists are.

Keep religion out of politics please!~ We'll be better off for it!

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

Senator Obama, the correct protocol and law (according to paragraph 301 of Title 36 of the US Code) for the Star Spangled Banner, which happens to be our National Anthem in case you forgot, is:
all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

This is true whether the flag is displayed or not.

It is my personal opinion that anyone running for an official office in this great nation of ours, especially those running for President, should be well versed in proper execution of such a sacred act as paying respect to our flag and our nation.

This is not the first faux pax you have made in your campaign, your also not the only candidate to make mistakes. All of you need to get your act together.

How old are some of you Obama supporters? Please grow up! What does the Clinton campaign have to do with this email? Nothing!

The email questioning Obama's patriotism first appeared in the conservative blogs and it spread like wildfire before the other blogs picked it up. To the right wingers Obama is almost as "dangerous" as Hillary. If they consider her a marxist (LOL!), they consider him a muslim and no amount of talking is going to convince them otherwise. The best thing is to just ignore those kinds of attacks and move on.

Barack is a true Christian, a bit more than we can say about the Republican frontrunners now, isn't it?

Star Spangled Banner, turns out different parts of the country do it differently.

His grandfather on his mother's side, a WWII vet, taught him what to do with the National Anthem, I'm not arrogant enough to question that advice.

Amen BArack
I am in your corner 100 and I am Black

Doesnt matter what religion the guy is. What matters is that he doesn't have the know how to run this country.

If Obama is or isn't a Muslim who really cares. I do not think he will win but give me a break if he is a muslim then good for him. I would like to know when I will be able to afford to live the American dream. I actully would like to know when I can afford to live and be happy with out spending 3 bucks or more for gas.

It's a shame that we really have no idea who these candidates truly are and what they truly believe in.

Money, marketing, and trickery should not be driving these elections. Capitol Hill is a dark place.

God Bless America? Why should he?

This is such a non. OBAMA-Bash, POS story. These trolls are sooooo desperate for a little dirt on the man. It's sad and pathetic. If you don't like him , don't vote for him...just sit in your mother's basement scratching your...and leave politics to the grown ups.

I love this – the dumber they are the smarter you look, Barak.

And we welcome those of you who are waking up from the Clinton deep sleep sprinkled by the stardust of the charismatic man of the people – BARAK OBAMA.

We cordially invite you to join a winner overtaking the Clinton
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Get behind the smartest person in the room – Obama 08

Barack Obama is a muslim. He just plays smart to not show it until he becomes the president. I know where the madrassa is in Indonesia. If CNN wants to have the picture and the address of the madrassa, just drop me an email.

Second, regardless of either Pledge of Allegiance or Star Spangled Banner, as a presidential candidate, Mr. Obama should always put his hands on his chest as a symbol of his patriotism. He only talks about his patriotism but no action at all including the small pin of American flag that he doesn't want to wear. I don't know what America will be if the president is like this.

1. What a lame defense for not puttinng his hand over his heart! He should learn from Hillary to admit mistakes made and move on. Obama is simply not presidential.

2. "If I were a Muslim I would let you know." The truth is that you were a Muslim when young, although you have not admitted to it, because (a) you were born Muslim by a Muslim African father, (b) you were raised by a Muslim Indonesian stepfather, (c) you studied in a Muslim school in Indonesia, (d) your mother kept a koran at home, and (e) the minister at your Chicago church said you did not regularly attend his church, at least until you ran for public office.

While there is nothing wrong to be a Muslim or Mormom, the American people need honesty from their politicians.

HILLARY STRIKES AGAIN !

Sorry, Barack. You still have middle name with 'Hussein' which is a muslim name. Also I have not heard anything from your side on Al Qaeda neither about muslim fanatics. Go public my friend otherwise I cannot believe your rhetoric.

The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is not presidential material.

Portland, OR
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What should he say? How is that not presidential when you have the entire right wing screaming religion, religion, religion every day. So they are presidential and he isn't because he mentioned a choir?

No Portland, Are YOU kidding? I love how it when critics and those that spew hate claim not to like Obama, but have nothing substantive to say about why?

It just reaffirms the fact that he is to be taken very seriously.

Wallace

So being a muslim is unpatriotic?

So...

Since when do we not place our right hand over our heart during the singing of the national anthem??

According to the Flag Code of the United States...
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

According to Obama and his ignorance,
we place out hand over our heart during the Pledge of Allegance and...
Get this...He says, during the National Anthem, were supposed to sing?!?!??!

I would suggest he brush up on his flag/anthem protocol before he really embarrasses himself.

What an idiot.

Question your "patriotism"? Tell me Hero – What have you ever done .. that is beside disrespecting our national Anthem

What's the real reason you took the American Flag off your lapel? ...is so you could put on the cresent moon of Islam? Are you a closet Muslim?

You make me wanna puke with all your arrogrants – I gave 30 years of the best years of my life defending the best country in the world and your total disrespect of your nation is appalling to say the least

Right or wrong – I'm a man of my Convictions – Hate me if you want – But remember this Osama - Vets like me earned you that right

Out!

I love reading the comments hear, just proving how dumb people really are. This man has invested his life into running for office, being a leader, while you sit behind your computer questioning his patriotism by where his hand was. Amazing. The fact that you think it speaks of his character, something that silly, and may change how you vote is absurd.

I may not have put my hand on my chest during the Star Spangled Banner either, but you would never ever come up to my face and tell me how unAmerican I am. I'm so glad he's dealing with these idiotic rumors, the people that start them, and obviously the people here that let it affect them, head on.

We should all be disgusted by this mudslinging and looking to actually discuss issues and why grandma is having a hard time with medication, not 'dude, your hand wasn't on your chest!'.

In communist countries the most important was to wear politicaly correct pins, salute the red star, post and shout politicaly correct slogans.

The easiest way to get rid of a person was to accuse them of being "unpatriotic". People were executed in the name of symbols. God forbid if there was no red flag in the window during the Labor Day parade...

Think about it, all of you, for whom gestures and symbols are more important than character and real deads.

The most significant aspect of this story is how many people suggest that Hillary had something to do with it. That in itself says a lot about what people think of Hillary - do we want to elect someone in whom we have so little faith and whose morals we believe are so low?

Yuck, Obama doesn't do a thing for me. Empty suit?

The man has been exposed to other religious belief systems in his life and CHOSE Christianity over all of them. I would say that makes him "more Christian" (if there is such a thing as "more Christian") than those who have never known anything else. It also places him in a unique position to understand and respect others (in America, as well as abroad) who do not share his perspective.

Isn't that what it means to be the leader of the free world? We need an Obama or person like him to be president. But, I see no reasonable imitations, so I must support the real thing. Go Obama.

I thought that was a great answer.

As for people who argue that Obama has no experience...what do you say to a man who got C's in college and was merely a governor of a state with ZERO congressional experience?

Obama, you're the man.

WOW! I post the truth and CNN cesorship removes the comment time and time again. Time to post else where!

Oh my god...whoever had to make the jog across the world to debunk...I'm so sorry.

What boggles the mind is where the term 'madrassa' came from. I feel like I need to inform all these news agencies that MADRASSA JUST MEANS SCHOOL IN ARABIC.

IT IS NOT A TERM USED FOR ANY SPECIFIC TYPE OF SCHOOL.

Get it? So, if I was going to a school called Oakwood Highschool, in arabic it would be 'Madrassa (t) Oakwood'

Can CNN please clarify, along with fox news and half of washington politicians, where this ridiculous term originated? How can you transform a word from another language and give it your own meaning?

I wonder if he actually said anything at the speech. We'd never know from the "reporting" done on this site. Only hear about the ridiculous claims he has to defend against.

" "We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?! "

I would call it a defense seeing as how I don't recall that covering your heart during the national anthem was ever taught to me as the norm.

ah yes, spreading false rumors that Obama is Muslim was the first shady attempted hit-job orchestrated by the Clinton campaign in an attempt to nip his candidacy in the bud.

some people clearly have not noticed that the rumor has long been PROVEN false.

planting questions, spreading lies about other candidates...shady, shady Clintonian politics

This is a typical right wing tactic, bring up nothing and try to make it something. It would play in Bush country a.k.a. Nutland, but if your in the Blue you know it’s bull.

love the appropriate use of the subjunctive, "if i were...", unlike the first george bush, a yalie who should have known better, but (in)famously said, "if i was...."

interesting the news header used the incorrect "if i was," (which, of course, would refer to a condition in the past). this obama guy understands and respects language. can't argue with that.

The people who say they wouldn't vote for Sen. Obama because they think he's really a Muslim weren't going to vote for him anyway.
His "faith" is simply a front; a convenient fig leaf for people who don't want to say they ain't voting for anyone African-American.

Can you believe this?

Obama came in 3rd in Iowa of Republicans. If the Republicans are going to cross the aisle to vote for a Democrat, it would be Barack Obama, wayyyy before Clinton. I live in IL-10 a swing district, Kirk, Clinton won this district his time in and then it went to Bush. These Republicans and Indies are very moderate leaning, which you would think they would like Clinton, but they do not. Again, I hear this all the time. Which make me suspect of this Mark Penn and his polling that Clinton will get 25% of the Republican Women vote. Down south no, but you would think in a moderate swinging distict that I live in, no problem, but many do have a problem with her. They know deep down they like him. So, go figure.

Why do we place our hands over our hearts anyhow? Our heart is really in the middle of our chest and not on the left side.

I don't place my hand on my heart. If you don't believe in what you speak, hand guestures mean nothing.

I'm not for you Obama, but I agree that you should smack down anyone that comes your way with false doctrine.

Before we make a decision of quite a magnitude I think we should all take a deep breath - then check our favorite media source and follow their directions.

Here we go again–Swiftboating. How low can US politics sink? Maybe America is not ready for democracy...

Barack, we want you out of Chicago soon, from 95th street south side to 600 penn AVe....Keep the hope, keep the candle burning......
Miriam

This is a good guy who has a lot to offer this country and it's people. If I were a front runner on the democratic side, I would keep this guy as a friend. I agree he is not ready to be president due to his lack of experience. BUT... He would make an awesome Vice President on either side, Democratic or Republican. His time is not now, but as a vice president for 4 or 8 years, he would make A Great President. We need to quit judging by color, religion, beliefs etc so we don't miss one of the best people in this country to be president some day. Besides, he would be a great chance to break the Bush-Clinton-
Bush-Clinton chain. Give him a chance. We wouldn't be sorry. WAKE UP AMERICA

I heard that when he took his oath of office he used a koran – is that true? If so, it sure sounds like he's a muslim to me.

The best choir in town? You've gotta to be kidding me. This guy is no presidential material.

Honestly CNN, how many stories of no value can you post about Obama like this one. You continue to post this garbage and pass it off as news. How about reporting on real issues of importance instead of wasting people's time with these smear attempts

I am Southern, I am Christian, I am white, I am male, I am politically moderate with conservative leanings, and I have just one question for everyone out there:

If Barack Obama WERE a Muslim, does that mean he shouldn't be President? Sorry, I wasn't aware that someone could be precluded from serving in the White House based on religious beliefs.

Oh, I'm also a veteran, and I could not care less whether or not Barack placed his hand on his heart during the national anthem.

I'd rather the neocons not speak for me, thanks just the same.

Well I see the Clinton attack machine is gearing up. Hold on to your hats, there will be a flurry of e-mails and anonymous letters to the media and voters.

The lies and inuendos have just begun. The Rove / Penn / Wolfson textbook of slime will be precisely followed by the Clinton group.

To Hillary and followers: If you weren't so devious and just a little honest, you wouldn't get caught in such embarrassing situations. As usual, you are your own worst enemy.

I'm so glad to hear the Senator's response to this recent attack on his patriotism. If we want to question someone's patriotism (or lack thereof), we should start by examining our President, who may stand for Star Bangled Banner and put his hand over his heart for the pledge, but clearly has no respect for the Constitution of the United States.

hillary is behind this stuff...im a dem and i hate the clinton royalty

Note:In the pic Obama's left jacket collar does not display the pin of the United States Flag.
Every other candidate wears the pin, President Bush,Jay Leno also display the pin on their jacket collar.
In an interview on the Jay Leno show, Jay pointed out Obama not wearing the pin ? Obama replied he lost his some time ago and never bothered to get another. Not to mention him not placing his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance!
And Obama wonders why people question his patriotism!

I guess Hillary didn't know about this either.

Posted By David Branch, Waco, Texas : November 13, 2007 5:58 pm

Hehehehehe, she went into hiding after question planting scandal. Cnn has nothing to report about her. Now that they don't know what to report about Obash they are waiting till something alittle catchy comes up. It is all Clinton News Network. Let's see what is coming up after Thursdays debate....
I hope Obash hit her hard again if she try to double talk.....

is this really news? CNN stop trying to entertain and start reporting. And this especially does not belong in the "political ticker" section, there's nothing that relates to politics in this article.

Here come the attacks from Hillary's camp. Personal assaults via email circulation.

Of course poor Hillary won't know ANYTHING about it!

I knew you are not a Muslim, they just know how to mud sling people.....I just like your honesty and I think that is what we are lacking with our elected officials and those in the white house. We need to restore trust in America. I just want my country back!

SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING HAS REALLY HIT A NERVE WITH HIM. I WONDER WHY???

"We were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” Obama said. “We were singing the Star Spangled Banner."

And that's a defense?! What in the world is this guy thinking?!

Obama didn't do much for Illinois except raise taxes. He has zero leadership experience, not having run anything. You wouldn't hire someone for a job if they didn't have experience.

I guess Hillary didn't know about this either.

How much you wanna bet the Hillary has something to do with this?