Oops, so much for being a free people. Maybe this will wake some people up.

If they cant beat him at the debates they have to resort to these tactics. Its funny to me the Liberty dollar has been sold for years but now Ron Paul is being taken seriously we see the gestapo tactics,the real face of the Bush regime.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!" — Barry Goldwater

Good Lord CNN, I knew you sometimes skewed things a bit, but this is going too far. First off, the header implicates it is Ron Paul's money, when in fact it is gold and silver coins with his likeness on them. And he did not even give them his permission to use his likeness! Then, in the first sentence, you just claim that these coins are illegal, when in fact it has not been decided in court whether or not they are actually illegal. Last time I checked the US Mint does not get to determine what is legal and what is not. I guess you are saying if you get arrested you are presumed guilty. Whatever political 'editor' came up with this drivel should be ashamed, unless they're proud of the fact they'd make a great propagandist in Communist China. I am sure this little comment will not be published, but for whoever the 'moderator' is, please grow a conscience and quit your job working for this propaganda machine. You'll feel better not being part of the problem.

Who is John Galt, anyway?

Y'know, the Constitution demands that all currency the government issues be backed by gold and silver. That has yet to be amended, but it certainly has been ignored.

And now someone who is backing their own, extra-governmental currency (which the Constitution grants government no right to outlaw) with gold and silver is having theirs declared illegal…

No wonder Ron has raised so much money in one day! Busted!!!

Of course the Feds step in and act all hollier than thou. Thats to be expected. I should have gotten a Ron Paul Liberty dollars. shucks. Guess its gonna be harder to get now huh? Saying the dollars is illegal is kind of stupid. Its just gold, silver or copper formed into a coin. Those are all metals, that doesnt make them not worth money. its still worth money technically cause they are metals. How stupid is that? We need Ron Paul as president to lay the smack down the the feds. GO Ron GO.

Can we see some of the illegal coins with Ron Paul on em? that would be cool.

Silly question - what does this have to do with Ron Paul other than his picture on the coins? I think the Federal Reserve is going be an enormous reality check when we no longer can borrow and the bubble hits. This is just basic macroeconomics. Reason nobody notices for the most part is a good example of our need for improved education in this country. But where Ron Paul is concerned - he is right on about a much bigger issue than Medicare or Social Security. So some extremists (the same type that founded this country - remember the Boston Tea Party as one example) put his face on their coins. This has nothing to do with Ron Paul - these are the actions of free-thinking Americans. Just to get the facts straight.

Why haven't you reported that Barry Goldwater Jr. has come out in support of Ron Paul? You reported when a used up T.V. star endorsed another candidate.

How would it not flucutate? All currencies fluctuate. The price of gold and silver fluctuate.

Seems oddly well timed…sounds like the Republocrats are getting scared that they may loose their status quo.

Our government & media is a discrace to this country.

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"

-The Declaration if Independence for those who have never read it…

Some what misleading.
You claim that the group "produces illegal currency and puts it in circulation".
There was nothing Illegal about their coin.
You must be confusing them with the Federal Reserve.

Typical CNN mainstream media putting its touches on what it deems ILLEGAL! Once again here we are, having the FEDS RAID a LEGAL OPERATION! There was nothing WRONG or ILLEGAL with the liberty dollar ( it had to be approved by the MINT BEFORE being made ) and ALL THIS IS is again, the GOVT putting FREEDOM another step down!
I HOPE IT BACKFIRES on them! I hope it brings more attention to RON PAUL! BARRY GOLDWATER, KANE from WWE, Barry Manilow, ETC ETC have found RON PAUL, HAVE YOU?

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These liberty coins may be declared "fake" by the Fed (who is responsible for the US dollar's falling value and resultant inflation), but what is not fake is the $8.2 million ordinary Americans like myself have donated to Ron Paul this quarter in hopes that America can be restored. We are prepared to have another record fundraising day on December 16, 2007, in observance of the Boston Tea Party. Will you join us? Ron Paul doesn't want to run your life or your business. He wants the federal government to leave you alone so that you can exercise your liberties and freedom. Ron Paul is not purchased or owned by special interest groups, lobbyists, corporate partners, et cetera. Follow the campaign donations and you can tell where a politician's loyalties are.

How appropriate the name of the guy trying to create his own US currency..Mr. Von Nothaus (or Von NUThaus) and his group believe we should go back to the gold standard–so much so that they are printing and banking their Liberty Dollars currency. Ron Paul has suggested–and in fact is part of his stated agenda to return to the gold standard. I wonder what his wacky agenda has in mind for the Liberty Dollar's. This is an example of the libertarian/right wing conservatives who are flocking to Paul. Thanks Ron–but I'm aiming at the Democratic Party to pull our buns out of the mess we're in…not sink us deeper in.

Who is the writer of this article? They should have written "alleged illegal currency" instead of "illegal currency." Do CNN writers determine the law now and always side with the position of the FBI? IMO, this not fair and balanced reporting.

Wow, the Feds are out of control. After the traders on the exchange were cheering Ron Paul for roasting Fed chair Bernake I imagine there's a lot of people in control of that Chinese driven ATM machine that are shaking in their boots. I don't know if I would support printing money not authorized by the government … but then again at this point with the crashing dollar I'm not sure I won't be cheering these guys on either.

Maybe it's time for this discussion to be a central issue?

I wonder if this is the start of those against anyone but the frontrunners (ie: the machine people) and a take down of someone who won't go with the Party ideas.

Perot said that FBI threatened his family. Bush Sr was in charge of the FBI at one time. And Perot never was the type to act "flaky", he was a hard core businessman.

I think Ron Paul, or anyone who tried to buck their party or the entire two-party system is going to find things don't go their way.

U.S. Constitution- Article I, section 10

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; MAKE ANY THING BUT GOLD AND SILVER COIN A TENDER IN PAYMENT OF DEBTS; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

FEDS are out of line on this.

Jack, you can't be serious. The demopublicans or republicrats are going to keep giving you more of the same. We need something different. You admit that we are in a mess, how will more of the same change anything. Try,actually, looking at Ron's wacky ideas before you start ripping on them. In every statement he makes he talks about upholding the constitution and returning your individual rights. I think that the only way anyone would be against him, if they actually research his platform, is if they are afraid to think and act on their own. As a society we have learned to look to someone else so we can point tho them as the reason we have failures and short-comings instead of having personal accountability. This county is in need of a real overhaul, and Ron is the man to start it.

I don't follow your line of thought, Jack. How is going back to the gold standard wacky? Doesn't it seem wacky to print money backed by nothing? Doesn't it seem unreasonable to believe we can print our way into prosperity? Why is the value of the dollar dropping so much? Because the Fed is printing money like there's no tomorrow. Neither party will pull us out of this mess. The only way to bring us out of this mess is for the government to stop breaking the laws set forth in the Constitution. The only candidate who completely respects the Constituion is Ron Paul. That's why he's getting my vote.

There is no law which says you can't use some other form of currency to barter with if you want to. This is not about returning to the gold standard as Jack in Fl. would have you believe. It's about having the freedom to use an alternate currency if you so choose. But private currency can not be taxed or monitored, therefore it can't be allowed to exist.

Well, Jack, I'd rather be known as a "Ron Paul nutjob" than a Liberal with no nuts and no job.

The currency does not claim to be legal tender. I can legally use whatever currency I want to settle a private debt. If I help my friend move into his house, perhaps my currency will be pizza and beer. Are you going to confiscate that from me next? Sheesh…commies.

I hope Ron Paul capitalized on this article. While he has nothing to do with the liberty dollar other then the owners support him, he can also point out very specifically that the US dollar, the one we have to use is losing its value and the liberty dollar is inflation proof thats actually asset backed.

Ron Paul should seize this moment and use it to his advantage.

I want Ron Paul coinage! After researching Dr. Paul's platform thoroughly, it is no wonder these people are using his likeness on the coins! I think it's a wonderful compliment to Dr. Paul, and am interested to see how this story plays out. hey, I think one Ron Paul Dollar (RP$) should be worth 10 US$!!!!

The Democratic Pary will continue to spend beyond our means, and thus causing us to print more money.

Will this fix inflation or make it worse?

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that understands the credit crunch on the Middle Class and is going to atempt to do something about it.

This is more about Constitutional rights, not about Ron Paul.

Wow, this is amazing. Everything that usually sinks a candidate are raising Ron Paul.

Typical CNN. Who's ILLEGAL here? The Fed, who raided WITHOUT WARRANT, or a legally operated company?

Also, Ron Paul has NOTHING to do with it whatsoever.

Despicable.

I wonder why the raid was done at this time. I suspect that with runaway inflation of the US dollar people will be looking for alternatives. This is probably more about the bad dollar than "illegal silver coins."

WOW, does anybody know where I can get some of those Ron Paul Dollars. I would rather have the real deal, Gold and Silver rather than funny looking paper with ink… I think its called fiat money. Go Ron Paul !!!

Actions speak much louder than words. I have been uncommitted on which candidate I will support but Ron Paul make a lot of sense on a lot of issues.

So, the private bank called the Federal Reserve feels threatened that there is in fact a legal currency being distributed and the only thing they can do is use their force instead of facing the real issues in court. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! Our rights are vanishing, and it should make every American as angry and as outraged as I am. I still can't believe that the "Fed's" use the word "illegal" with the Liberty Dollar, even though they had complete authorization to print/coin them.

What a pathetically misleading title, you political shill hacks!! This has nothing to do with Ron Paul at all. It does shine a light on just how right Paul is about the IRS and Federal Reserve. They arrest these folks for minting legal currency pieces, but continue to print and circulate play money that is backed by the labor and extortion of future generations of Americans. So sad. Please, God, let Ron Paul win or at least raise the debate to common sense levels.

A return to the gold standard would encourage recession, why do these crazies want to return to it?

This is crazy I met this guy once, he's a good guy.

Sigh… This has nothing to do with Ron Paul and his campaign. Paul has nothing to do with this, yet you guys spin it like he's a crook and involved in it.

Stop with the bias!

How about a real story on currency…like thanks to the Republicans, the dollar is tanking, and will be worth less than pesos next year!

What is the LAW they broke? If it was ILLEGAL than why weren't they shut down YEARS ago?

So anyone can start an "illegal currency" and sell it for 9 years without worrying? What about all the other alternative currencies in the U.S., like in Ithaca, NY? Going to be arresting them too?

Oh I forgot, only the Congress can issue and coin money, well better go arrest the Federal Reserve board!

Wow, the FED must be scarred. I would be too if I knew God was going to destroy me for being evil. If our founding fathers were alive, the entire Federal Reserve board and those that initiated it at Jeckyll Island would be executed.

I don't know how much 1984 and Russian politics Americans will take until we take back our country. Just because we can eat at McDonalds, shop at walmart, and watch Playboy on TV doesn't mean we are free.

And another thing. There is NO law stating people can't make a currency. The people OWN America. Everyone made currencies back in the old days. Why do we want to use the evil $^%&#(* pyramid dollars?

What is illegal is keeping citizens from making currency. As long as it is not COUNTERFEIT dollars, it's all good.

You people that cheer this on will love life when something you cherish is taken away from you by the Nazi government we have.

So I guess bartering is illegal now? All that these people were doing was bartering small disk-like gold objects for other goods, and issuing receipts for people with stored gold. As long as something doesn't have "legal tender" written on it, there is nothing illegal about it.
Oh well, the trend, which has been greatly accelerated by Ron Paul, is for people to resort to the internet for news rather than the monopoly media congolmerates have on tv's. I guarentee if professional, respectable news video was available through the net, no one would bother with biased news organizations like CNN. ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE JERRY SPRINGER OF NEWS. No real information, just entertainment. And, to be sure, you could probably learn a lot more from Jerry Springer, and his "final thoughts".

Illegal? how so CNN?

thank God the internet is shining a bright light on the lack of journalism we have in the mainstream today..

Steve, those coins are NOT illegal. I don't have any of them but we DO have the right to print our own money backed by gold. As long as it's not counterfeit dollars, we can barter and trade as we please.

Why does this artilcle say these coins are illegal? How about "alleged illegal"?

I don't know why souvenir coins would be illegal anyway. This smacks of a police state.

This coins were created by the grassroot movement to spread the word, everyone who got them got them as a collective item, plus the chance of owning a silver ounce or other metal of real value, what is ilegal about that?

Someone commented that wanting the gold standard back was, 'wacky'.

Why is that? If you talk to most people they still think that our dollar is backed by gold. Go out and ask some. You will be surprised how many people don't realize that it isn't.

As for it being wacky. Money in this country was gold and silver (or backed by it) up until 1972. So, for 185 years we were crazy and only found sanity after that? Or could it be that coming off the gold standard was crazy. Look at the inflation of the 70's that didn't occur until we came off the gold standard.

The Constitution of the U.S. says that money should only be gold and silver. That is still the law of the land. Our current money system is what is wacky. Paper with ink on it and nothing else.

I agree. It's time to make money 'worth' something again.

Nice headline CNN, how much do you hate Ron Paul, i mean really.

Working toward making ownership of Gold illegal, so the only choice it their fake monopoly money.

Facism. They aren't holding them out as American Currency but as ownership in a commodity / Gold. This is no different than a futures contract.

This is illegal act of aggression by the FED. Liberty Dollars are legal.

Watch out, there comming to bust down your door and take your gold coins.

Facist Pigs. This is why we need a Revolution.

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The title of this article is misleading and deceptive. The title "Illegal Ron Paul currency seized" would make most people believe that Ron Paul is some how involved with illegal currency when he is not. Why not change the title to "Illegal Currency Siezed" since Ron Paul has absolutely nothing to do with this incident!

The Liberty Dollar is accepted at thousands of businesses and transactions which utilize them are considered barter. They never claim to be the lawful tender that the Fed Reserve puts out. It's a free market & LD deals in commodities.

On a personal note, I own several silver certificates from LD that are redeemable in actual silver bullion. The Government stole my property when they seized all the silver. I joined the class action lawsuit against the Government.

And who cares if they had Ron Paul's image on them? If these are the issues that determine a vote, America is in a sad way because they are shallow. Let us focus on the actual philosophy of a candidate than nonsense like this.

Ron Paul wants to allow a competing currency that is backed by hard assets. What could be wrong with that? It's what free market economics is all about?

The only thing wrong with it is that the bankers that have a stranglehold on the US money supply would lose their power as asset backed money becomes far more popular.

If it were such a bad thing then the free market would naturally phase it out.

I and many others would love to have a currency that retained it's value and didn't evaporate into thin air due to inflation!

To the undereducated folks out there who think we "shouldn't" return to the gold standard, go watch the zeitgeist movie at the website with the same name. Or, catch up on your history. This nation was founded by men who wanted to escape the both taxes and the interest they had to pay on currency they received from England's central bank. Why do we allow the government to borrow money from the Federal Reserve (which is completely separate and autonomous) at interest and make us pay for it in taxes? Why do you think we go to jail for not paying are taxes yet there is no law sayijng that we have to??

Wait a tic, when did it become illegal to own gold in this country?

When did it becomne illegal to create objects made out of gold (ie rings, nechlaces, or coins)?

If they are going after these people, then they also have a duty to go after every casino chain operation in this country, as every one has its own metal currency circulating in numbers equaled only by small nations.

This made my day, Ron Paul supporters are often found on the Internet but make up such a small marginal percentage of the America voting base. He's not going to win the Republican nomination, but I do encourage him to run for Governor of say Guam so we can get him out of these 50 States.

Of course after I post this my others will magically show up, but the moderators should of put up the other comments. foolish dudes.

Americans have the right to use whatever they want to pay for things. We can barter, trade, bank, and exchange any way we want. Of course we know the evil behind the federal reserve and their intentions. They must be scarred to do these illegal actions against the citizens.

As long as two parties agree on an exchange, it can be anything. I can Kmart a sack of dirt if they accept it as payment for a pair of pants.

The federal reserve and Jeckyll Island clan are the ones who are illegal. God will take care of them for their actions. If our forefathers were here, there would be plenty o bankers being hung.

Shouldn't that be "allegedly illegal"? You open yourself to legal trouble, CNN.

The federal reserve is complicit in the destruction of the US economy. Its existence is unconstitutional, its actions criminal.
Seizing the property of NORFED only shows what little respect this government has for the people and how much it has for the banks and big money fatcats who pull the strings of politicians in both parties.
Follow the money, youll see where its all going.

Guess the Fed needed some gold & silver to prop up the falling U.S. dollar & bring discredit to a Presidental Candidate. I'm sure the press will bale hay with this one!!!

Andrew Williams, a spokesman for the Federal Reserve in Washington, D.C.:

"There is no law that says goods and services must be paid for with Federal Reserve notes. Parties entering into a transaction can establish any medium of exchange that is agreed upon."

Why do they emphasize that it's Ron Paul's illegal currency? It isn't affiliated directly with him, as the spokesman for the campaign said.

The Liberty Dollar isn't illegal, anyway. It would be illegal if it claimed to be legal tender, but it doesn't. It's merely representative of gold and silver, just like our original dollars used to be. It's essentially representative bartering, which is different from the status of legal tender held by the US dollar.

It's perfectly legal to have and use Liberty Dollars because they are basically barter. Currency is whatever people agree to trade. For example, the food that I buy for friends whom I owe can be considered private currency between us. As long as they pay taxes with transactions, which they do, it's legal.

Andrew Williams, a spokesman for the Federal Reserve in Washington, D.C.:

"There is no law that says goods and services must be paid for with Federal Reserve notes. Parties entering into a transaction can establish any medium of exchange that is agreed upon."

The bottom line is, that the Federal Agents raided the place, and they know what they can do, and what they can't do. They know when someone or a business or a group are breaking the law.
The Feds don't need anyone on here telling them what the Federal laws of the United States are.
It doesn't matter how it was printed or reported, it doesn't change the fact that the Feds busted them. What matters is that the Feds are on it! They are on a lot of things. Like Mr. Mukasey making a statement today about the march in D.C., and in Mr. Mukasey's statement he stated there are "dozens" of investigations into the hate crimes being committed. What did cnn do? they make it look like all the "dozens" of these Federal investigations only occured in the last 4 days of Mr. Muskasey's officially taking office as our new Attorney General. When in fact, these "dozens" of Federal investigations into these hate crimes were also being investigated under Mr. Alberto Gonzales supervision. So a person just has to be thankful that we have a new Attorney General that is also behind finding the creeps that are committing these hate crimes, and let cnn report it however they like. And just disregard the slanted comments cnn makes against Mr. Gonzales.
Now the Feds have made yet another raid on this place and here are some citizens trying to tell people reading this, what the Feds can and can't do.
I do believe the Feds know exactly what they can do, no matter who likes it.
I do.

How soon until the Feds also raid E-Gold ? Surely that must be "illegal" too…..

"I am committed to guaranteeing parity for home school diplomas and advancing equal scholarship consideration for students entering college from a home school environment. I will veto any legislation that creates national standards or national testing for home school parents or students." These two sentences from his website are all I need to read to see what kind of a whacko Ron Paul is. So we're not supposed to have any kind of testing for home schooled kids and colleges are supposed to blindly accept them. As a Director of Education for a private college, this is simply ridiculous. How can children who haven't been taught any science (except that an "intelligent being" created Earth) or that haven't been taught advanced mathematics (because math shows that there aren't absolutes) be prepared for college unless they're getting a degree in Theology? Give me a break.

They could've called them "tokens" or "bullion" or "souvenirs" and then used them as defacto currency, in the same tradition as the "tobacco water pipes" for sale in college town boutiques.

It's kind of a ridiculous arrest. Am I avoiding taxes if I use beer and BBQ instead of US currency to get my brother-in-law to put new brakes on my car? God forbid my wife give me physical affection to get a room painted or buy her jewelry, that must both be prostitution and tax evasion.

Just another corporate smear campaign against Dr. Paul. Shame on CNN for "linking" his name in the headline, as if Dr. Paul has anything to do with this.

CNN, what kind of hit piece is this?

LIBERTY DOLLARS ARE NOT ILLEGAL! The US Mint, the Treasury, and Congressmen have all conc Liberty Dollar is a legitimate barter medium. It is a competitor to the dollar.

CNN, you need to do your research a bit better. They were NOT raided because of some allegation that the money they produce is illegal. The US Government has repeatedly stated that Liberty Dollars are a legal trading medium. Rather, they were raided due to allegations of money laundering, which is silly because Liberty Dollars cannot be deposited in a bank account. They are NOT legal tender, but a bartering medium.

The FBI and Secret Service took the company's entire product stock and metal reserves, including some Ron Paul coins that they had just minted. Of course, they are big Ron Paul fans, and Dr. Paul has nothing to do with this company or the raid itself.

FYI if anyone wants to see the Ron Paul dollars there are some for sale on Ebay.

I better burn my collection of vintage wooden nickles. They were once used as acceptable currency. Be advised to stop bartering with your neighbors too, you all could be thrown in jail for tax evasion.

It was not an illegal currency. It was a voluntary barter exchange program using gold, silver and copper medallions or certificates redeemable in them. If it is illegal, then so are Disney Dollars, walmart gift cards, and every other credit system. Further, von NotHaus received a letter from the federal reserve early on telling him what he was doing was perfectly legal. There was never any problem until they started putting Ron Paul on the coin. Someone high up in the political food chain is pissing their pants with fear that Ron Paul will win,

The closer you getting to telling the truth on this blog,the less likely you are of seeing it on here. Go Dr. Paul.And yes check out the movie "Zeit Geist.com". Keep an open mind if possible,I dont know that its all truth, but you must make that conclusion on your own.

And the Good German of the Day Award goes to: 4:40pm poster Kristy !

Congratulations, according to you, whatever the "feds" do and have ever done is all fine and dandy because the "feds" did them.

You would be considered so patriotic-in the former Soviet Union!

Again, congratulations! Reward yourself by supporting Communist China at Walmart you good American!

You folks are the reason Ron Paul will go down in flames!

Hey - the Constitution never said anything about a Federal income tax - so why don't you stop paying it??

The US Government regulates the minting, distribution, and regulating currency in this country. Just because you THINK it's your right doesn't MAKE it so. You, financial geniuses, want to open the door to homemade currency?? Yeah - THAT's a wise move!

This fanaticism with delusional "rights" is why 95% of Americans think Ron Paul and you libertarians are KOOKS.

CNN please be careful to stay objective. That's your job as the press. What law was broken here? I don't think anyone is trying to pass commemorative Ron Paul coins at Walmart. I think your headline is purposefully misleading. What's your agenda? Is it really good for the country? Why are you so afraid of Dr. Paul? Guiliani's best pal and nominee for head of Homeland Security got busted on 14 federal counts this week. Maybe that should make a headline with Guiliani's name in it?

Posted By Kristy Sanborn, St. Robert, Mo. : November 16, 2007 4:40 pm

You're a foolish girl. Of course we all know that the fed can do what it wishes. All it's laws and orders come from those that commit these crimes. We are simply stating their actions are deplorable and unconstitutional.

You don't have to agree with us, but we outnumber you and your opinion.

Could you, please, hide your bias a bit better.
People are starting to catch on.

I support alternative barter currencies that are clear about what they are. The Liberty Dollar does not meet this standard. They too strongly resemble real US currency and are blatantly deceptive in nature. They are pseudo-counterfeits/knock-offs of Peace dollars and indistiguishable to the layman.

When I first started investing in silver, if given a choice between a real peace dollar and a "liberty dollar" and asked to spot the counterfeit I would have thought it was a trick question and that both were real. It wasn't until much later that I learned the difference.

Fortunately I never got conned in to accepting one.

I wouldn't mind one of the Ron Paul ones simply for collectors value.

It is this exact sentiment that "Liberty Dollar" is capitolizing on by releasing a Ron Paul "Liberty dollar." They were exploiting Ron Paul's name recognition just like they exploited the general public's unfamiliarity with antique currency.

Ron Paul is completely unaffiliated with Liberty Dollar! Something this article fails to emphasize.

WOW! I am actually glad those smart people in the FBI did this…can definitly tell something else behind the scene is going on. Let them go to court and make a fool of our government because its the federal reserve that IS ILLEGAL, not money made out of gold, silver or copper…read the constitution people please

Did anybody at CNN actually graduate from journalism school or did you just finish up your internship at the National Enquirer?

Future CNN Headline: Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich Attack Planet Earth From Martian Spaceship; Yellow Journalist Tells All

This is insanity!
The U.S. Mint is just attempting to maintain an ILLEGAL monopoly.
Who in the hell do they think they are?
Where is the government that is supposed to be representing us?
I guess the U.S. mint would consider bartering illegal too, because you are not using the currency they produce?
I sure hope the folks at liberty dollar slam them in court, hopefully real justice will prevail.

Hmmm. What law was broken? Misleading headline here too. Argh.

The Golgafrinchans' management consultant tried to arrange the meetings of the colonization committee along the lines of a traditional committee structure, complete with a chair and an agenda. He was also in charge of fiscal policy, and decided to adopt the leaf as legal tender, making everyone immensely rich. In order to solve the inflation problem this caused, he planned a major deforestation campaign to effectively revalue the leaf by burning down all the forests.

Even Douglas Adams saw the craziness in fiat currency.

So — tell us — when are they going to shut down all the other places that sell gold and silver or should we be hiding what we own from the nazis?

This title could make people think Ron Paul did something wrong and I would like to ask that CNN change it please. It is misleading.

Additionally, collecting gold coins for trade is NOT illegal and the governmentk knows this. You have no right to smear Nothaus, Paul all in one sentence.

LDs are 'barter currency' just like when I pay my gardener with gift certificates…. TAKE THIS DOWN IMMEDIATELY

I want to buy some of the Ron Paul silver coins if the feds haven't looted all of them, they steal the gold and make us use and pay interest to private bankers on the worthless federal reserve notes. The American people are waking up as our great nation is being liquidated and looted.

A note re: pcosmar

There is a valid point there that gets missed when you mix in the complaint about the Federal Reserve:

I don't understand what makes these coins any different than any other stupid commemorative coin. Were they trying to pretend it had an actual currency value?

Oh, and …

re: Matt

Kane from WWE? How are we supposed to take Ron Paul seriously when his supporters don't? Seriously. Barry Manilow? Yeah, that rips it. When Kane from WWE and Barry Manilow endorse a candidate, the race is already over.

There is nothing illegal about what they did! There is no law saying that you can not exchange some object of value for some good or service. Quote from a Jacob G. Hornberger article, "…the gold standard eliminated the power of federal officials to do what governments had historically done to their citizenry – plunder and loot the people through the issuance of depreciating paper money." That's exactly what's happening in our country. What is illegal, according to the Constitution, is the "Federal Reserve," (a privately owned bank: Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)) and the worthless paper money they print.

A new low for CNN. So Ron Paul was busted for his illegal hard money right?

This is outlandishly misleading reporting.

Your pretense of 'Objectivity' has evaporated.

a comment for CNN:

Please, give the people what we want. We want a credible, balanced news source. I understand that delivering news is a tough job, and its difficult to present it void of bias, but this article isn't worthy of our attention. Its blatent propaganda, and i charge every journalist on your staff to look at what your reporting and ask yourself if this is an honest article. Allow your channel to incite our generation into revolution! Its best for your business and the american people for you to revamp your media.

Tell you what. Let Ron trade the money that everyone has donated to him (some 8+ Million) for Liberty dollars with his likeness on them. Then let him go to any of the newspapers, tv stations, news outlets, etc… and try to buy advertising space/time with this "currency". It won't work will it? Why? Because it's not issued by the federal reserve and treasury of the United States. This is why the individual states stopped making their own money and the fed. treasury was established. It's not legal tender. It may be gold, or silver, or whatever, so yes, it may be worth "money" but you can't take it into the store and buy something with it. You guys are nut jobs, "I'll barter with whatever I want". Well go over to a third world country and trade some goats for stuff then, cause some of us work really hard and are proud to still use the American Dollars with good ole George or Honest Abe on the front. God bless America.

Do you guys read your comments? If so, when will the title of this article be changed to something more objective?

I thought the coins were declared legal several years back?

In the end, they're metal. What's the difference between buying a silver Liberty Dollar and a collectible silver coin? And though the Liberty Dollar does not claim to be legal tender, why are producers not allowed to accept whatever they want for payment?

THE Clinton News Network at it again right after their rigged Debate. You guys have no credibility.

"Illegal Ron Paul currency"?!! The Seizure Warrant available on http://www.libertydollar.org/ clearly says that the Liberty Dollar is suspected of money laundering, mail fraud, and wire fraud. No charge of being an illegal currency, but CNN has handed down it's verdict. But most of important, Ron Paul did not authorize the coins with his likeness. I encourage all citizens to turn off CNN and celebrate the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party at teaparty07.com! RON PAUL 2008!!!

This headline is an atrocity as it makes the cursory reader think that Ron Paul was coining his own currency. Nice journalistic trick CNN, you make the reader get all the way to the bottom of the article before they realize the truth that this has nothing to do with Ron Paul's campaign. CNN is contributing to the failure of our republic. Besides, the U.S. reserve notes are the real problem, but the world is wising up and pulling their investments from the dollar and putting them in real currency. The dollar today is backed by NOTHING, at least Liberty Dollar was making something of real value.

wow 2 comments deleted, this being my last try, i'll reduce it down to a paragraph! maybe that'll do it:

Bernanke was in Congress telling them (us) about it's desire to become more transparent, that was two days ago. then yesterday, this raid. the dollar and the economy are crashing, folks, and the Fed is desperate, knowing full well what Paul is putting on the table and how many people support his ideas. they are fighting for their existence, i'd say.

Does anyone know that the Federal Reserve is the BIGGEST sham in U.S. history. The federal reserve is not owned by the U.S. government. It is owned by a bunch of rich bankers, which is stealing money from the american people. This is what the u.s. government dosen't want YOU TO KNOW.

I cannot believe the choice of photo, the headline, the nuance that (we're not really saying it…), somehow, Ron Paul is related to this. Unbelievable. Well, keep on. It just makes you look worse, CNN. I'm all for your true colors showing. You people really have no busineess attempting to present the news.

The fed produces paper money that has no backing and is worthless. It would be great if we could get back on the gold standard but the gold is gone.

I believe the federal reserve bank are the criminals here.

I cannot believe this slanderous headline still remains here.

These are NOT illegal and these are NOT
Ron Paul's.

Does CNN care about being sued?

Our Country is losing everything Americans have worked for in the past 250 years. If Guliani gets elected well be right back to Bush Goons for another 4 years and I will be moving to Canada. Didn't our founders make something to protect people from stuff like this. Ohhh yea I think it was called the CONSTITUTION. Ea.

I find it interesting that the AP's title for this article was Feds Raid 'Liberty Dollar' HQ in Ind.. Way to show your bias, CNN.

wow!dr.paul actually get's some coverage from cnn!

This Ron Paul lunacy is exhausting. It is extremism.

I'd like to say two things:

1. Ron Paul has a lot of my respect for his principles and his devotion to them. I've been an Obama fan for a long time, but Dr. Paul has a lot of my support now, as well.

2. I object to the comments made by Phil Toole, from San Jose (but I won't hold it against San Jose) regarding home schooling. Making a very large generalization regarding the content and quality of home school education is a disservice to those who properly educate their children at home. In my opinion, it's also a disservice to the students at your college. You ought to know better than to make such an outlandish generalization.

What a load of nonsense!

Let me start by saying I'm not a Liberty Dollar associate, but this coverage is just opportunistic and sickening display aimed at somehow discrediting Ron Paul, plain and simple.

The currency is NOT illegal. I'm sure a court of law will vindicate Mr. Von NotHaus, whom I have personally met and found to be an upstanding, intelligent, and amicable enough guy.

If you want REAL coverage of this issue, check THIS out:

youtube. com/ watch?v=4_sSipUrBG0

Take spaces out of URL and paste in browser.

CNN must have taken a page out of the 'Dummy's Guide to Slander'. It happens to be the same book that Fox News uses on a regular basis. I can't remember who exactly wrote it, whether it was Josef Goebbels or Edward Bernays, but its central premise was the majority of modern American idiots won't read an article past the first paragraph. It has prompted a style wherein an article will start off with the most slanderous terms imaginable and then slowly elaborate as the story goes on until finally, 3 years later, they publish a complete retraction in a section of the paper or website no one ever visits.

Article I, section 8 of the constitution gives congress the power to coin money. See Federalist paper 42. Article I, section 10 is, amongst other things, about the states inability to coin money. Only libertarian Ron Paul crackpots can't figure that out.

Read the Consitution:
Article 1 section 8 clause to gives Congress the power to regulate commerce within the States

Article 1 section 8 clause to gives the Congress the power to coin money and regulate it's value.

What these people in Evanville are doing is unconstitutional. This is what the state governments did under the Articles of Confederation, the first American government during the revolutionary war. The states produced conflicting currency whichdevalued the American ability to regulate commerce. The Constitution was written to amend this. This has nothing to do with political parties, it is a matter of higher law, and in this country that is the Constitution of the United States.

Clause 2 and Clause 4 of Article 1 section 8. I dont know why the moderators changed it.

Since the U.S. Constitution specifically makes paper money illegal, and says states can only accept gold and silver for payment of debts, it is the "official" U.S. dollar that is, in fact, illegal.

What a misleading title. It was not "illegal" currency.

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? LibertyDollar.com

Fron the INDIANA STATE CONSTITUTION

SO WHO IS CREATING ILLEGAL MONEY????

ARTICLE 11. Corporations
Section 1. Banks
Section 1. The General Assembly shall not have power to establish, or incorporate, any bank or banking company, or moneyed institution, for the purpose of issuing bills of credit, or bills payable to order or bearer, except under the conditions prescribed in this Constitution.

Section 2. Laws
Section 2. No banks shall be established otherwise than under a general banking law, except as provided in the fourth section of this article.

Section 3. Money
Section 3. If the General Assembly shall enact a general banking law, such law shall provide for the registry and countersigning, by an officer of State, of all paper credit designed to be circulated as money; and ample collateral security, readily convertible into specie, for the redemption of the same in gold or silver, shall be required; which collateral security shall be under the control of the proper officer or officers of State.

Section 4. Branches
Section 4. The General Assembly may also charter a bank with branches, without collateral security as required in the preceding section.

How is the Liberty Dollar violating the Constitution? I want to see EXACTLY where in the Constitution it says we can only use ONE currency to exchange payment for services.

The Federal Reserve is the organization breaking the law. Wake up America, and see the reality of our rights being taken away from us.

A wood or stone Ron Paul coin would have more value then the Feds Dollar. Banks create Plastic and then they print money out of thin air!

Maybe it's worthwhile to remember that JFK signed a presidential order to create new US dollars, backed by silver bullions, to limite the powers of the Fed. He did that just ten days before his execution. The presidential order still stands, but since then none dares to comply with it…

Out of the list below they went after the "Liberty Dollar". It might be just me but it is probably to shed a negative light on Congressman Paul's campaign.

* Amesbury Hours Amesbury, Massachusetts
* Anacostia Hours [1] Mount Rainier, Maryland
* Area Bucks Palo Alto, California
* Atlanta Hours Atlanta, Georgia
* Bainbridge Island Bucks Bainbridge Island, Washington
* Baltimore Hours [2] Baltimore, Maryland
* Barter Bucks Indianapolis, Indiana
* Bay Area Bucks [3] Traverse City, Michigan
* Berea Bucks Berea, Kentucky
* Berkeley Barter Network Berkeley, California
* Berkeley Bread Berkeley, California
* BerkShares, Southern Berkshires, Massachusetts
* BloomingHours [4] Bloomington, Indiana
* Blue Money Brattleboro, Vermont
* BNI [5] Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey
* Boise Hours Boise, Idaho
* Brattleboro Hours Chesterfield, New Hampshire
* Brookings Bucks Brookings, South Dakota
* Brooklyn Greenbacks Brooklyn, New York
* Buffalo Hours Buffalo, New York
* Buffalo Mountain Hours Hardwick, Vermont
* Bull City Bucks Durham, North Carolina
* Burlington Bread [6] Burlington, Vermont
* Butte Bucks Crested Butte, Colorado
* Cape Anne Dollars Gloucester, Massachusetts
* Capitol Area Self-Sustaining Hours Albany, New York
* Carbondale Spuds Carbondale, Colorado
* Chenango Hours New Berlin, New York
* Columbia County Hours Philmont, New York
* Columbia Hours Columbia, Missouri
* Community Cash Durango, Colorado
* Cuyahoga Hours Cleveland, Ohio
* Dillo Hours Austin, Texas
* Disney Dollar Disneyland and Disneyworld
* Flagstaff Neighborly Notes [7] Flagstaff, Arizona
* Floyd Hours Floyd, Virginia
* Fourth Corner Exchange [8] Pacific Northwest
* Great Lakes Hours Detroit, Michigan
* Green Mountain Hours [9] Montpelier, Vermont
* Greyhound Bucks Taft, Texas
* Hero dollar Minneapolis, Minnesota
* High Desert Dollars Prescott, Arizona
* Hobo Dough South Dakota State University, Brookings, South Dakota
* Hollandollars Holland, Michigan
* Houston Hours Houston, Texas
* Humboldt Hours Eureka, California
* Humboldt exchange community currency Arcata, California
* Ithaca Hours Ithaca, New York
* Kansas City Barter Bucks Kansas City, Missouri
* Kauai Barter and Trade Network [10] Kilauea, Hawaii
* Kettle River Hours Kettle Falls, Washington
* Kitsap Hours Bremerton, Washington
* Lehigh Valley Barter Hours Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
* Liberty Dollars [11] Evansville, IN
* Lopez Island Hours Lopez Island, Washington
* Madison Hours [12] Madison, Wisconsin
* Mendocino SEED Fort Bragg, California
* Middletown Cash Middletown, CT, Wesleyan University
* Milwaukee Hours Milwaukee, Wisconsin
* Missoula Hours Missoula, Montana
* Mo' Money [13] New Orleans, Louisiana
* Mountain Money [14] Mars Hill, North Carolina
* NOCO Hours [15]Fort Collins, Greeley, and Loveland, Colorado
* North Fork Helping Hands Paonia, Colorado
* PDXhours Portland, Oregon
* P.E.N. Neighborhood Exchange Takoma Park, Maryland
* Plenty [16] Carrboro, North Carolina
* Portage Hours Kent, Ohio
* REAL Dollars [17] Lawrence, Kansas
* RiverHOURS [18]Columbia River Gorge, USA
* San Luis Obispo Hours San Luis Obispo, California
* Sand Dollars Bolinas, California
* Santa Barbara Hours Santa Barbara, California
* Santa Fe Hours Santa Fe, New Mexico
* Santa Monica Hours Santa Monica, California
* Sequoia Hours Garberville, California
* Simply Hours Columbus, Ohio
* Skagit Dollars Mount Vernon, Washington
* Sonoma County Community Cash Santa Rosa, California
* Stoneridge Hours Kerhonkson, New York
* Summit Hours Akron, Ohio
* Thread City Bread Willimantic, Connecticut
* Time Bucks [19] Seattle, Washington
* Tulsa Hours Tulsa, Oklahoma
* Ukiah Hours [20] Ukiah, California
* Valley Dollars Greenfield, Massachusetts
* Waldo Hours Unity, Maine
* Wash Bucks Sioux City, Iowa
* Wooster Hours Apple Creek, Ohio

Private money is Private money - pure and simple - Even ABC's parent company Walt Disney makes it.

If you go to Walt Disney World you can exchange US Dollars for Disney Dollars on 1:1 Ratio

Oh, stop pledging this man's innocence, you people! You act as if he's Nelson Mandella when he's more of a Tokugawa. Though I doubt many of you know about Isolationism, even though you support Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a large advocate of cutting ties with the WTO, free trade, abolishing the reserve, and withdrawing from the UN. One day, he suddenly gains 2.4 million in worth, though he only has about 5% of the vote, and maybe a couple hundred thousand have ever heard of the man.
Tell me, how does a person who is behind in the polls and the usual target of internet jokes raise 2.4 Million in one night? Answer: He didn't use normal means.

Give them about 2 weeks, and I am almost certain they will find a connection between this group's gold reserve and Ron Paul; a verifiable connection, at that. Then I would like to see you people support an isolationist maniac who wants to ruin our economy with his far-fetched ideals.

Voting for this man will destroy America, and condoning the actions of this organization will only allow hom more power. Don't make that mistake!

Guys, relax. This article will catch a lot of people's attention. The real patriots who haven't heard of Ron Paul will maybe hear about him for the first time because this article gets networked through their web houses. Hey CNN watch for the full page ad buys in USA TODAY Nov 20th and 21st. Paid for by?….You guessed it….a silver trader. He has lots of money to spend because he understood that precious metal would rise as Bernanke et al devalued the US Dollar.

a real judge would say the coins are constitutional.

I support Ron Paul and will vote for him. Romney, Clinton, Giuliani, Obama, Thompson, McCain are all the same.

The Federal Reserve System was est.in
1913 to control the money and credit.
In the same year the Federal Income Tax became law.The big banks control
congress and your wallet.

Misleading news at its finest. Go back to analyzing political zingers and pandering to the stupid.

More misleading headlines from the propaganda machine. CNN once again tries to detract support from the best man running for president. Mainstream media proves to be less relevant every day.

While the "business-as-usual" messages continue to be hawked by all of the other candidates (from both of the two major parties), Ron Paul just keeps pitching his message based on the Constitution and his keen understanding of economics.
I agree with a previous post that this aticle, although poorly-crafted so as to mislead, either intentionally or not, serves as yet another catalyst to create a firestorm of turnout at the polls. Young adults, including college students, have the most at stake this election. If you are reading this, please… PLEASE make sure you're properly registered to vote and be sure to vote!

I think this clown just absconded with a whole lot of money culled from the credulous. Why isn’t there a single news story with an official comment? If the FBI had conducted this raid, wouldn’t they ahve made sure the press was there to show impressive footage of the good guys winning the day? And if all company records were confiscated, how did the perpetrator manage to e-mail all those poors suckers who’d bought into the scam? And why would it take the Feds 8 years to make their move?
Color me sceptical.

CNN owns Ron Paul a very big apology for this libelous article. I hope he sues your faux news institution for all its worth. First, Ron Paul has nothing to do with this; simply because someone puts his face on a coin because they support his ideas hardly allows you to connect him in this disingenuous way. Second, the allegation that this "currency" is "illegal" is unfounded and there are letters from the government officials stating that there is nothing illegal about them (see the liberty dollar website). This is a blatant attempt by the media to again discredit Paul because he threatens their pretty little empire. This article is on the level of Glen Beck promoting that Ron Paul supporters are "terrorists". What is this country becoming? It makes me sick and CNN has once again showed its true color - part of the Military/Industrial/Media Complex.

Ron Paul is concerned as Feds may raid Disney and Take all Disney Dollars from Kids at Disney World! lol the Feds are going too Far!

Goofy and Donald being led away in Quikcuffs.

The haunted mansion stormed by swat

Mr. and Mrs. Mouse were unavailable for comment, but a spokesman for Guipeto revealed he planned to sue the Feds.

CNN: Please have reporters check the use and definition of words PRIOR to print.
"Illegal" is defined as "Contravening a specific law, especially a criminal law". The statute or any reference to the law broken was missed and would constitute the makings of a liability suit. Prior to judgment the use of inflammatory words by and individual and accepted as fact by the publisher; without a clear disclaimer from said publisher “specific to the article, quote, publication…” constitutes collusion, and conspiracy to commit fraud.
Words are your business: use of descriptive and specific words demand careful understanding by the user and the reader. The writer can provide anything within the limits of the law and the bias of the editor to the point where the truth is no longer subject to fact but is misleading or false. At this point the use of words become self incriminating and once released to the public; become something that can and should be scrutinized by the reader; involved parties and the enforcers of the law.

Somebody better arrest the Statue of Liberty quick for being on the front of the Liberty Dollars.

Do you believe Liberty Dollar is an illegal currency?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1009

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Article 1, section 10 of the Constitution of the United States:
"No state shall… coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.

The only illegal currency is Federal Reserve Notes. The Constitution prohibits STATES from coining money, ie. GOVERNMENT. It does not prohibit INDIVIDUALS or CORPORAIONS from issuing currency. By definition, a private currency is NOT legal tender, as legal tenser is just that, legal, meaning it is decreed legal by a legislature. Last time I checked the LIberty Dollar did not have legislative powers.

People, wake up!
The Constitution exists to limit GOVERNMENT not CITIZENS. It is there for our protection, NOT our persecution.
This currency is 100% voluntary and 100% constitutional.

If CNN is going to post such an idiotic version of the story, how stupid are they to let regular people comment? LOL The regular people will mess things up I tell ya!
http://www.teaparty07.com

Man, cnn really has the worst writers ever. It's bad enough that half of the articles on this site are videos that force you to watch an insipid charles schwab commercial. Hire people who can write, please.

Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave right now.

Ithaca, New York has been printing their own money for years.

The Government is SOOOOOOO going to lose this case, providing we're not in a police state when it gets to that point.

Wow, and I was just watching CNN last night. I guess they're off my television viewing schedule for good. I look forward to CNN's corporate elites PANICKING as their viewer statistics dwindle down to NOTHING.

NOTE TO CNN: It's official now. You just demonstrated to the world that YOU ARE IRRELEVANT. Every time a news outlet prints out this kind of bilge it loses a little bit more of it's credibility. This article really jumped the shark. How stupid do you think we are?

Here are two quotes from the Constitution:
1. "The Congress shall have Power To coin Money" (Art. I, Sect.
2. "No State shall coin Money" (Art. I, Sect. 10)

Just what is everybody so confused about here?

Ohhhh Cody,

Please tell me you are that really don't believe your own post. No intelligent person could be so mis-informed. Say it isnt so.

Your bright enough to get here and enter a comment so you must be bright enough to perform a little basic research on a candidates position.

Which means you understood what total bunk your comments were before you posted them.

Hmmmmm…… I smell a bought and paid for professional shill.

I hope they gave you enough monopoly money …. oops I meant Federal Reserve Notes.

Too bad those same Federal Reserve Notes have lost so much of their value these last few months.

I guess that means you will have to suck up to the establishment that much harder.

Well good luck with that.

Dear U.S. Citizen,
The FBI is coming for your gold next…

Are you serious CNN? The first story you publish since Ron Paul's November 5th fundraising day is titled as Illegal Ron Paul money seized.
A bit misleading no?
I bit… incorrect.. no?
Please stop propagandizing that this was
a) illegal (it has not been declared illegal in courts. The mint has no authority over what is and what is not legal. I would think the writers for the CNN political section would know this.)
b) Ron Paul, as you admit at the end of the article, had nothing to do with this money.
I have a question. If I take gold, and melt it into circular objects, does that make me a criminal? Interesting.

To the person who quoted the Constitution, it's an interesting idea. Going back to the Constitution would mean we should abolish the Federal Reserve, and that's the whole purpose of the Liberty Dollar. Each $20 Certificate states:

"This is a Receipt for Twenty ($20,00) US Dollars given in exchange for Title to one (1) Troy ounce of .999 fine silver. The acceptance and use of this Twenty ($20.00) Liberty Dollar Receipt is an exercise of the bearer's First Amendment right to petition the government for a silver based currency as mandated by the U.S. Constitution."

The Constitution also says in Article I, "No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts."

So if Congress abdicates it's original mandate to coin money, and the States must use gold and silver, what are we to do but break one part of Article I to fulfill the other part?

It Couldn't be more obvious how desperate the government is to belittle Ron Paul as is apparently CNN

Article I, Section 10.
US Constitution.

End of discussion.

I can't wait until the FBI raids the company that makes the AMERO.

Interesting choice of headlines from the leader in globalist leaning networks, CNN. So much for truth and accuracy. Illegal Ron Paul Currency? I'm sorry was there a trial and conviction establishing this as fact? How about the fact that anyone can mint commemorative coinage, and the fact that NORAD has gone unmolested by the Feds for nearly 10 years doing the exact same thing, until Ro