November 17, 2007
Posted: November 17th, 2007 10:12 AM ET

Rove says Obama is missing chances to knock Clinton off stride.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Former top Bush aide Karl Rove said Thursday he thinks Sen. Barack Obama has missed key opportunities to knock rival Hillary Clinton off track.

In an interview with CSPAN, the man behind President Bush's two White House wins cited a recent debate in Philadelphia when Clinton was asked why more of her records as first lady have not yet been made public.

"He missed the opportunity," Rove explained. "If he had stood there and said, 'Senator, with all due respect, it is entirely within the power of you and your husband to immediately order the release of those documents. And your failure to do so reveals legitimate questions in the minds of the American people about what you might be hiding and it's not going to be good for the Democratic party or for you if you allow those questions to persist,' it would have been a moment, it would have been a big moment."

"Instead it was a vague and wandering around, and weak, and insipid," Rove continued. "There have been a number of occasions like that where a sharp and clear and respectful contrast would have created a moment."

Rove also said the Republicans will lose in 2008 unless they "articulate a positive agenda and a positive vision."

"Otherwise," Rove said, "The American people will say, 'You know what? I have got my doubts I have got my concerns and you haven't given me the confidence that I will do better with you.'"

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Karl Rove


Maliek Washington DC   December 3rd, 2007 8:49 am ET

Ok folks take a big breath. Obama is no fool, and he will obviously take heed to Rove's advise. Rove did put a president in the white house for 2 terms. And as far as divisive politics, Obama is against Hillary and we all know how low the Clintons will go. So Obama drop the nice guy routine asap.

Hilary, Rochester NY   November 19th, 2007 10:04 pm ET

Something whispers to me that it isn't just liberals who dislike and distrust Karl Rove. I think he also turns the stomachs of a lot of people who could care less about trivial distinctions such as "liberal" and "conservative."

Or he would, if anyone outside of Washington paid him any attention anymore. The Ticker aside, I don't think most people are sitting at home trying to figure out whether Rove is using reverse psychology to further the nomination of an unelectable Democratic candidate. They're probably watching Buffy re-runs or weather-stripping their windows or something.

Alex Chicago   November 19th, 2007 10:19 am ET

Rove may have helped Bush steal one election and barely win another, but he also helped Republicans lose control of Congress in an historic landslide. What a winner.

Posted By Jeff, Minneapolis : November 16, 2007 5:14 pm

Are you retarded JEFF? Nobody stole an election, you see in the US we go by ELECTORAL VOTES..DO you know what they are??? You democrats have the mental capacity of a 6yr old..now please get back on your short bus it is time for you to get to school....

Frank tulsa, ok   November 19th, 2007 7:28 am ET

Yo..... Meks, FTL, FL

If you didn't realize it before my blog was a bit sarcastic, the Dennis Miller reference should have tipped you off. So my whole blog was fictional making my 'error' in calculating K Starr's tab somewhat moot.
Everyone else seemed to get it.

Perhaps the one's that should not be blogging here are the those who don't read the whole blog and understand the context.

McCain-in-4, Clarksburg MD   November 19th, 2007 4:26 am ET

To think for one instance that Karl Rove is generously giving valuable information to any Democrat is delusional at best. Every prayerful and thinking person knows cavorting with people who have caused egregious harm in the past can only lead to further tears in the future.

This period of time should be preserved in the history book as a time when blistering emotion overcame independent thought, and Karl Rove's accomplishments prominently mentioned above President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

Global citizen linda, Columbus, Ohio   November 18th, 2007 9:26 pm ET

Karl Rove,

Generation Obama does not need your advice – remember that in the eyes of us his supporters, Obama is the Political Messiah – deal with that.

Also remember this quote from Obama the Messaih himself: "I don't do nasty"

Ron Nebraska   November 18th, 2007 7:35 pm ET

The way you people write on here and you call yourselves religious people. To me you all are like satan worshippers. I want nothing more to do with any of you. The only one you are helping is your own self egos. Go hang your crucifixes upside down.

Posted By laurinda, ny : November 18, 2007 12:49 pm

laurinda, correct me if I'm wrong but I suspect you listen to Fox news and are a fan of Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and any other right wing propagandist and you call US unchristian because we recognize the vileness that is Karl Rove? Stunning!

Sam, San Francisco, CA   November 18th, 2007 3:52 pm ET

I wish I could claim authorship, but I read this on another board:

"I wish I had been in high school with Rove so I could have been one of the hundreds of kids who beat the crap out of him".

RightyTighty   November 18th, 2007 1:42 pm ET

Rove's greatest accomplishment is in exposing the biased media's attempt to sway elections by continously publishing mindless dem hate. Isn't this a crime yet??

laurinda, ny   November 18th, 2007 12:49 pm ET

The way you people write on here and you call yourselves religious people. To me you all are like satan worshippers. I want nothing more to do with any of you. The only one you are helping is your own self egos. Go hang your crucifixes upside down.

Dan, Minneapolis, MN   November 18th, 2007 12:08 pm ET

Judy from San Francisco, expresses my sentiments. The Republicans speak of civility when they were the primary source for such Machiavelian transgressions. The neo-fascists such as Rove, Bush, Neocons, Limbaugh... should simply pack their bags in order to fight on the front-lines in Iraq. Instead their chubby cheaks are visible statements of their wealthy status, safely tucked away from such realities. They, the neo-fascists, are frigging "-holes" and no (!) I don't want to be civil. This I have learned from those esteemed cowardly elitist!!

Anonymous, Newport News, VA   November 18th, 2007 8:23 am ET

"Seeing Rove again just reminds me how important it is to elect a Democrat for President. We need to turn this country around after the last 7 years of hell. Go DEMS!!! Go HILLARY GO!!!!!"

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"Turn around" to what? The 8 years Clinton prior to Bush's was equally, if not more, scandalous and corrupt. Get you head out.

ENOUGH OF THE BUSHes AND THE CLINTONS. Enough of the petty, childish comments, as evidenced by the comments posted to this ticker. We need an Independent candidate to step forward.

A. Thomas, New York, NY   November 18th, 2007 7:54 am ET

Rove is a scum and dirt bag. What CNN gives time to him?

Trang, Fremont, ca   November 18th, 2007 6:25 am ET

Or maybe Rove just sees Obama as a good person and he wants to help him win – points out some strategies. Republicans have switched parties in order to vote for Obama because they want to see him win. When you see a good person like Obama emerges, you have to grab onto it and work to change the tide. He is good and he is strong. He has a better chance of uniting the country. With Hillary, we will continue to have the partisanship, because she attacks them a lot. They might be uncooperative when she is President and we would be in gridlock and nothing gets resolved.

Ronnie.Irving,Texas   November 18th, 2007 5:02 am ET

Who cares what Rove says?He is a hack,evil man.

katharine, Drammen, Norway   November 18th, 2007 3:50 am ET

for Karl Rove to try to discredit Obama just makes Obama look better. Sorry, Karl, Obama said it best when he said, 'I don't do nasty'. Is Karl Rove attacking Obama because he has started to figure out how many dissaffected Republicans have defected to Obama? This just shows what a strong candidate Obama actually is, that Karl Rove himself feels he needs to go after him so early. And Obama can take it, because his brand of natural integrity and honest engagement is something Rove and his cronies have no understanding of and no ability to fight. Rove can only fight someone running the traditional washington style campaign, and he knows it.

MCD, San Francisco   November 18th, 2007 2:25 am ET

WHY would anybody think Rove is "a genius" or "politically brilliant"!??

Anybody who is willing to lie, cheat, smear, use dirty tricks, use propoganda... anybody who has no moral integrity... anybody who feels that the ends justify the means.. anybody who has no soul... could achieve the very same disasters that he has achieved... and, unfortunately, heaped upon this country!

He is NOT brilliant... he has no soul!

John, Euless, TX   November 18th, 2007 1:09 am ET

Seeing Rove again just reminds me how important it is to elect a Democrat for President. We need to turn this country around after the last 7 years of hell. Go DEMS!!! Go HILLARY GO!!!!!

Lance in Monrovia CA   November 18th, 2007 12:59 am ET

Anything Rove says Barack Obama should completely ignore. Barack has pointed out very key differences and he's talked very matter of factly about Hillary not releasing her papers. Rove is simply trying to make Obama look incompetent while still making digs at Hillary. In fact, it was Obama, not Edwards, who attacked Hillary more forcefully, that has risen in the polls since the debate two weeks ago. Obama is playing a brilliant line, a very narrow and well calculated one, where he attacks without being a brute, where points out differences without going totally negative. He needs to have the respect of all the people and by being a bulldog he won't get it.

You're wrong Rove. He didn't miss any opportunities, YOU DID,when you didn't improve this country who's care you were given. You have made the biggest blunders in U.S. History and only a man as talented as Barack Obama can actually bring us back on track.

Obama Rising.

John from America   November 18th, 2007 12:50 am ET

Karl,

Your not clever – your a lying sack of crap! Moral value people – is this the person you listen to?

BruinGirl2001, San Mateo, CA   November 17th, 2007 11:29 pm ET

Ok everyone needs to just chill out and quit saying what a horrible person Rove is-the fact of the matter is that he kicked the butts of us Democrats a number of times and we hate it. I don't think this makes him a bad person-I intensely dislike his philosphy of 50+1 governing, which is why I'll vote for Obama-he is the only candidate in the race who can bridge that partisan divide and bring everyone together after more than 10 years of division (yes it goes back to the Clintons-all the way back to 1994 when the Republicans took over Congress). As for Hillary Clinton, just because her husband was president, doesn't count as "experience," just like it wouldn't for the rest of the working world. The one time she had a hand in shaping policy, it went down in flames, and they never gave her anything else to do. If we elect her, it's going to be the same battles that have been raging since 1992, which everyone is sick of (which is why Congressional approval ratings are lower than Bush's). It's time to move on-the country needs new leadership and a fresh face who can effectively deal with the serious problems that face America today. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton isn't change, it's a dynasty, which we rejected back in 1776. If we want to have a conversation about experience, Obama has spent more years as an elected official than Hillary has-8 years in the Illinois state legislature, and now 2+ years in the US Senate. Prior to that, he was a community organizer and a professor, so knows what everyday people are like and what really matters to us. The American people recognize that, which is why he's got more than double the number of small donors than all of his opponents combined. Hillary can be beaten by the Republicans, you can be sure of that, and I for one don't want to be dragged through the same arguments and controversies that have been raging for the last 13+ years. It's time for true change, someone who is a fresh face who doesn't carry all of the baggage everyone else does. Obama 08!!

Ron Nebraska   November 17th, 2007 10:49 pm ET

Also Richard Nixon was a hero of Roves' as a young man and Lee Atwater influenced the little deviants morals along the way.

Brendan H., San Antonio, TX   November 17th, 2007 9:20 pm ET

Quiz for all: Who mentored Karl Rove when he a 19-year-old looking to get involved in politics?

Answer: Donald Segretti of Watergate infamy.

JC, Green Bay, WI   November 17th, 2007 9:13 pm ET

Hey Rove, No one cares what you think.

Go crawl back under your rock you little freak.

Man, that felt good!

Brendan H., San Antonio, TX   November 17th, 2007 9:11 pm ET

Why isn't Rove somebody's girlfriend in a federal installation yet?!

S, Orlando, FL   November 17th, 2007 8:33 pm ET

All you Rove supporters need to get your heads checked. And your hearts as well.

Ron Nebraska   November 17th, 2007 8:23 pm ET

I smell jealousy in the air.

Posted By Larry Barfield – Marshall, VA : November 17, 2007 6:22 pm
This is what I mean, this form of argument is on the level of ' I know you are but what am I?' effective back in third grade but shoudn't be used in adult political conversation but this is what our level of intelligence has sunk to.

Ron Nebraska   November 17th, 2007 8:07 pm ET

The only reason Karl Rove gained any reputation as a mastermind is because the minds he manipulated are so terribly weak.

Ron Nebraska   November 17th, 2007 8:05 pm ET

Karl Rove is simply the most repugnant person on the planet, and yes, that does include Bin laden.

Sam, San Francisco, CA   November 17th, 2007 7:26 pm ET

Rove is the lowest kind of snake. Why he gets any mention in the media is beyond me. He has spewed his lies and poison for too long as an aide to the head snake in Washington. He should be jailed and the key should be shoved you-know-where...

Larry Barfield - Marshall, VA   November 17th, 2007 6:22 pm ET

As much as Karl Rove has been vilified by the left in their pursuit of hiding their own failings, it should be noted that he is a successful political mastermind. Those who wish to achieve or sustain their hold on American political power should heed a mastermind's words. Who is the equivalent for the left, Soros? I smell jealousy in the air.

Marcus, Detroit MI   November 17th, 2007 5:14 pm ET

The fact of the matter is that Obama needs to step up his game if he's going to beat Hillary; no doubt.

Joe, St. Cloud MN   November 17th, 2007 5:07 pm ET

Reading all of these comments makes me laugh. You guys really think that the Republicans are scared of Hillary? There is so many things that they can use against her in the general election and they will run her name into the mud with Bill's cheating ways. They will force all of her documents to be released to the public and that will hurt her. She will eventually have to take a position on something and when she does the Republicans will be there to tell the world that all she will do is raise taxes. Plus, over half the country already says they will not vote for her ever. We'll take your challenge and win. Anybody but Hillary '08! For the good of the nation.

Joe, St. Cloud MN   November 17th, 2007 4:59 pm ET

Sounds to me like all of you Democrats are still mad that Karl Rove single handedly defeated you in two general elections. I think Obama should take his advise because he doesnt seem to know how to put Hillary in her place. Please come back to the Republicans Karl so we can keep the White House and Demolish Hillary "Monica did what?" Clinton in '08!

michaelhoffman122   November 17th, 2007 4:11 pm ET

Karl Rove is very good with political strategy. Obviously Obama is a little scared to go heads up with Clinton. She is a great public speaker and is backed by all the trendy left wingers. She has name recognition and wall mart behind her. I don't see how he will pull this one off. Good luck to him though.

Andre' J. Perrin, Richardson, TX   November 17th, 2007 4:09 pm ET

Coming from Rove, it doesn't hold much water. Like Bush he is a born looser.

RuthieM   November 17th, 2007 3:59 pm ET

Um, something must be happenin' in the Obama stratosphere, it's getting hot. Even Karl Rove now sees Obama's rise and so Karl Rove is slugging at him now. Well, Karl Rove, if you had been listening at that debate, Obama was the ONLY one that challenged Hillary Clinton on that same issue. OBAMA '08!!

Donovan Brownstown, MI   November 17th, 2007 2:56 pm ET

Just goes to show you how AFRAID Republicans are of Hilary. Rove's giving advice to a DEMOCRAT?!? The Republicans must be wetting themselves ... either that or hell has frozen over. It's probably why Rove is here and NOT at home in hell with global warming and all!

Jason, Rockford IL   November 17th, 2007 2:42 pm ET

Unfortunately Hillary is taking on to Rove's tactics and has come out with claims of having "scandalous information" released (whether a lie or true this is mud-slinging she asked not to take place). Instead her campaign comes out with a political response and says that Obama is too inexperienced to realize it's a Republican just trying to set up a debacle. I must say it is a Republican that was PART of her husband's administration. This is a joke they should just come out and say it if they don't. Her campaign has gone from regaining some momentum from the debate on Thursday to more negative stories on the rise. This is the reason she won't beat a Republican in 2008.

Bart, Charlotte, NC   November 17th, 2007 1:41 pm ET

From some of the comments stated here, I don't think Karl can claim all the hatred and contravening as stated.

It is easy to talk trash when you hide behind a computer!

Conservative Christian Republican voting for Giuliani '08

Even though he dresses in drag. lol!

M. Miller   November 17th, 2007 1:37 pm ET

Mr. Rove, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney should be investigated, obviously charged..and put in prison for orchestrating the murder of innocent men, women and children. Our armed forces and many countries continue to be victimized by Mssrs' Rove, Cheney and Bushs' singular vision of wealth building and power mongering by murder and theft. They are personally responsible for the deaths of 3600 young men in our Armed Forces and 25000 innocents abroad while they continue to pillage the wealth of others and call it 'National Security' with the cost in human lives and devestation rising by thousands each day it continues. Doesn't Mr Rove get it? He is a muted voice in this upcoming election as the populace on a whole is disgusted with him and his hateful, divisive advice. The populace of the world hopes that either Democratic candidate, when elected, will prosecute him and his cohorts-and jail them-so they may not ever, ever enjoy one dime they stole off of the backs of our loved ones and neighbors. My personal opinion is that they should be forced to live in a glass cage on the steps of Capital Hill-until they die form the stares of the relatives and friends of those brave young people who died for nothing.

Scott, Milwaukee   November 17th, 2007 1:11 pm ET

I can't believe how many idiots are posting on this thread. Amy from D.C., you may think that Rove is a "sneak," but he is clearly way out of your league when it comes to intelligence. He is exactly right on this one too. The Clintons are crooks, but because the media loves them so much, many have conveniently forgotten what an embarrassment they were back in the 90s. If you are interested in 4-8 more years of scandal and disappointment then vote for Hillary.

Joe, Florida   November 17th, 2007 1:10 pm ET

He is just trying to get the TOP TWO Democrats (Edwards doesn't count anymore) to go at each other.

Remember when his friends at the White House did to his car on his Birthday. One of things they did was put a "Go Obama" sticker: Of course, it wasn't because he liked Obama.

Clintona and Obama should go on the ticket and they will win.

I knew old Karl couldn't stand on the side, he is always up to no good.

marc from indiana   November 17th, 2007 1:05 pm ET

Such hate for such a nice and brillant man. He is an undisputed political genius. I just wonder at the amount of hate that is being spewed from you dems. What has he done to you, but help engineer the most successful administration this country has ever seen. It couldn't be that you are a bunch of sore losers, is it?

Jed in Texas   November 17th, 2007 12:58 pm ET

I have a prediction for you Karl, you and many of your friends will be wearing orange jump suits in the near future.I hope they put you in a cell with O.J,just think of the great we got away with it for awhile stories yall will be able to tell each other.LMAO

Walt, Belton, TX   November 17th, 2007 12:30 pm ET

Valerie Plane was a known and useless shoe clerk for the CIA. Disclosing her identity was stupid but jeopardized nothing as she was a nothing.

Hales, West Lafayette, IN   November 17th, 2007 12:27 pm ET

As much as people seem to dislike him, his remark on this occassion is basically accurate, both as to the situation of the RNC and the Clinton-Obama contest

Jon, Los Anegeles   November 17th, 2007 12:18 pm ET

This evil man called K.R. should just disappear into thin air. He has caused great pain to this nation.

Jack Mormon, Seattle, WA   November 17th, 2007 12:08 pm ET

Mormons are very scary people.

Ace, Grand Rapids, MI   November 17th, 2007 12:06 pm ET

Hmmmm Maybe the reason he hasnt attacked viciously is because unlike Mr Rove, Obama isnt a sleezball who sold his soul.

my911call, North Carolina   November 17th, 2007 12:05 pm ET

Rove will go down in history as one of the most hated persons in American history. I hope his children seriously consider changing their last names.

Hal Sedgwick   November 17th, 2007 11:35 am ET

Karl Rove saying Republicans will lose unless "they articulate a positive agenda and a positive vision" shows just how impenetrably grotesque the folks are who have given America the 7-year nightmare from which we so desperately hope to emerge. Go away, you evil, evil man.

Suzy, Houston TX   November 17th, 2007 11:34 am ET

Hey E.C. Houston, it’s called ‘freedom of speech’. You republicans can sure dish it out, and you can thank bush and his band of thugs for having to take it now. As far as name calling goes…ever listen to the Rush, Hannity, or Michael Savage??? The way they pronounce “liberal” you would think it was a dirty word instead of a philosophy. I personally don’t like the way politics is being played right now, but I hope the Dems read the republican’s playbook and give it back as good (or better) than it’s given. Try and be a nice guy and you lose…it’s pitiful but true.

A. Harrison, Atlanta Georgia   November 17th, 2007 11:25 am ET

This feels like Star Wars, the Emperor is giving advice to defeat their largest enemy. Would you take his advice? What is he up to? We can all see it.
BTW as many have said on these comments, cooperate with the authorities and release the information on those leaks you were responsible for. Crook.

Flagship, Hartford, CT   November 17th, 2007 11:12 am ET

E. C., Houston, Texas : November 17, 2007 10:19 am

Do you see a pattern here?!
Your Rove hero's rating is reflected in these blogs.
You are tied to a traitor who did more damage to our country than 911 it self.
Rove should be stripped of his American citizenship.

carl, Sacto, CA   November 17th, 2007 10:59 am ET

More advice from Rove? Bush would have won w/out him given a brother as Gov of Florida and the Gop legislature, the Supreme Court, the Sec of State of Ohio and the far right.

Reminds me of politics in the Land of Smiles.

Benjamin Keaton, Robertsdale, Alabama   November 17th, 2007 10:49 am ET

He should spend the rest of his life in prison for disclosing the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plane, thus comprimising our safety and national security for the sake of political revenge. He is one of the most damaging people in America history for this incident along with spear heading the polarization of America. At the very least, he shouldn't be allowed to offer his viral opinions any longer.

Jack, Fort Myers,FL   November 17th, 2007 10:46 am ET

Now that is about the scariest thing I've ever considered!! A slime bag w/ the deepest bag of dirty tricks in political history–giving advice to Democratic presidential candidates! What is that old saying:" beware false profits", yeh, sounds like very good advice. Any advice offered by this snake–must be seriously questioned. His only goal in politics is to veil truth, disguise truth, hide truth, and mislead as many as possible in pursuit of what are very likely despicable reasons. This muckraker doesn't even deserve to have his opinions in print!

Brian - Cleveland, Ohio   November 17th, 2007 10:30 am ET

1. This is about who is best for the job not who has more dirt and everyone has some. He's trying to detract from debate on the merits because if it goes there, he and his Republican Party lose for sure.

2. He wants to help Obama oust Clinton becuase if she gets in it's more even more likely they'll lose.

3. I'm an independent. I think both Giuliani and Clinton have the best resumes and geeze do we need a resume after Bush Jr. I prefer Clinton but also wouldn't have minded Giuliani until he started pandering to the religious extremist factions that have taken over our country. I'd expect better from a NYC mayor who is socially liberal but apparently willing to do what he needs to do to get in. I don't want those people in charge of our country for another 8 years - live and let live already.

S. Wright   November 17th, 2007 10:30 am ET

Obama's moment has passed. A golden opportunity, and he missed it in the Vegas debates.

Of course, it isn't all his fault. It's hard to score points when the sponsor of the debate (CNN) had it front loaded in Hilly's favor from the beginning. Not to mention the poster-child for metrosexuals everywhere, Wolf Blitzer, who never seems to have he guts to stop the silly tactics of a rampaging liberal establishment figure.

Remember Michael Moore's rant, Wolfie? Yeah, you didn't look good letting him ramble like that either.

OutragedBeyondWords, Austin, TX   November 17th, 2007 10:26 am ET

Rove says Republicans must "articulate a positive agenda and a positive vision" to win in 2008. If you have watched the R debates, you have heard their message of hatred, bigotry, and fear: see page 1 of the Rove play book.
It is far past time for Rove to be indicted, convicted, and imprisoned for high crimes against the state and people of this country.

Jose Card   November 17th, 2007 10:23 am ET

No matter who told the truth about the procedure of releasing the documents that support Hillary's candidacy, we want to see the documents BEFORE the Democratic primary. It is not for Obama. It is for the voters. Democrats deserve the right to verify any candidate's resume.

E. C., Houston, Texas   November 17th, 2007 10:22 am ET

Might be stimulating to read this Ticker if there weren't so many name-calling kids on this comment board. Why do you allow such, CNN? Thought these comments were 'screened?' CNN has published nothing but 'trash and name-calling insults against Rove.' Is this standard for CNN?

Peggy, Houston, TX   November 17th, 2007 10:22 am ET

I found it humorous, when talking about Giuliani, how many times Rove said the word “values”. I hope in ‘08 the Dems cram those republican “values” down their hypocritical throats. They are nothing but a bunch of prejudice, philandering, lying, crooks.

E. C., Houston, Texas   November 17th, 2007 10:19 am ET

Notice that all the comments villifying Rove are vulgar, brash, four-letter, name-calling obscenities and nasty, hateful rhetoric as usual, a style always subscribed to by Under-Educated Liberal Democrats. This is standard vocabulary, for any word that contains more than 4 letters, to them is too difficult. This type person and his/her rhetoric continue to deny the Democratic Party of what it 'could become.' Too bad that the level of support comes from the sewer. Hillary is one of them, and she is too weak and certainly not intelligent enough to become President. Wishful thinking, Bill! No More Clintons in the White House! Rove is absolutely correct in his comments. Too bad there isn't a brilliant strategist around for Hillary...Thank Goodness! Right-on, Rove! But, please, don't help Obama!

Randall   November 17th, 2007 10:15 am ET

Karl – give it up and keep your mouth shut. No one wants to hear what you think or this corrupt administration thinks. Give it up.

Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky   November 17th, 2007 10:08 am ET

Carl Rove, you were wrong, Obama had time with Tim Russert at Meet the Press, Tim asked Obama about his record, Obama said I don't have my record, State Illinois has it, I don't have the record and schedule of Senator and campaign, how could he ask Hillary about the record even he doesn't have or couldn't open it publically. Another thing, Rove was wrong, Hillary doesn't need to give any confidence to Obama, confidence comes from his own experiences and career. Rove, you couldn't change your evil spirit, don't open your dirty mouth if you are not sure, just stay in the room. Bush doesn't need you means you are useless flesh.

ryan, boston   November 17th, 2007 10:06 am ET

who's he really bashing, Clinton or Obama?

James Louis NC   November 17th, 2007 9:58 am ET

This guy is an idiot and is to be ignored and laughed at!

WIL SMITH   November 17th, 2007 9:47 am ET

ROVE IS KINGMAKER BEAT THE DEMS 100% OF THE TIME. 1 2. HE SAYS OBAMA (HUSSEIN) IS FINISHED, HE KNOWS BEST! 100% TRACK RECORD. FACTS ARE FACTS!

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   November 17th, 2007 9:44 am ET

This is precisely the advice I would expect Rove to give to anyone: lie. At this point, it's not up to President or Senator Clinton to release archive records; rather, the Archive staff will make the call. And they may not release records without reading them to ensure that making them public would be in compliance with various statutes and regulations. Because the Archives are understaffed, this takes time. FactCheck.org now appears to agree that Tim Russert's question was misleading while Sen. Clinton's answer was accurate. That, I believe, is why Sen. Obama (wisely) didn't press the issue at the Nevada debate. However, Sen. Obama has already twisted so many of his and Sen. Clinton's positions that he seems right in step with Rovian tactics.

Lioness Washington DC   November 17th, 2007 9:40 am ET

Does Rove secretly hope that Obama will win?

This seems to suggest that...welcome all of conservative America.

OR is he trying to undermine Obama by calling him weak?

Sorry Karl, you are a has-been. And the fact that you are talking to the Clinton News Network only proves that.

Dave, Sacramento, CA   November 17th, 2007 9:30 am ET

The most interesting thing about these comments from people is that they look exactly like comments about why people don't like Hillary Clinton.

These comments could easily have been in response to something Hillary said.

KM, Dallas, TX   November 17th, 2007 9:24 am ET

Too bad so many people aren't responding to the article...they're just using it as a soapbox. I'm not a fan of the guy but in this case he has a pretty good point. Why won't she allow these records to go public? Thats the real question. All you people resorting to name calling, stop ruining my democratic party! You are the reason for our failures...grow up, learn some issues instead of just taking a popular stance, and vote!

Anonymous, Newport News, VA   November 17th, 2007 9:14 am ET

"What about the "HILLARY EXPOSED" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–that is what should be brought up. That case is in the courts, though I bet none of you has heard about it."

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The charges against Hillary look compelling! I'm sure the Clinton diehards will look at the video with jaundiced eyes, and conclude this to be another "Swift Boat" attempt by Clinton detractors. At the very least, it should be troublesome to everyone that a court case such as this is not headline news in the middle of an election cycle. Why is the media so silent?

Mark Columbus, Ohio   November 17th, 2007 9:07 am ET

Go Hillary Go! You go girl!
This is the kind of crap I read from Hillary supporters. They don't give any reasons why she should be elected...most of it because she is either a woman or former first lady. Bad reason to elect a President.

WatchingHillary.com

crabfat, fenwick island, de   November 17th, 2007 8:56 am ET

WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY...I thought you were spending quality time with the family? YOu are soooooooo over!!!!

Racine, WI   November 17th, 2007 8:53 am ET

Never trust Rove when he comments to pitch one Democratic candidate against another. People must know that the is pitching for Obama against Clinton only to use the very information in favor of the republican candidate! Remember Rove is obtusely smart! I hope Obama does not fall for his scheme
Jay

Luis, Sacramento, CA   November 17th, 2007 8:47 am ET

Why should anyone listen to this devisive character. He and the GW bandwagon of fat-cat politicians and wealthy business people are only looking out for themselves as usual. The American people need someone in office that will look out for ALL Americans, not just the usual hogs at the trough...ie...GOP, wealthy, & the special interests.

Dee, Niagara Falls, NY   November 17th, 2007 8:44 am ET

Obama is arrogant. Speaks with his hands and finger pointing.
Go HILLARY Go!!!!!!!!!!!

mark wilkes barre pa   November 17th, 2007 8:41 am ET

hillary may not have any actual experience leading the country,,, but she did stay at a holiday Inn,,,,

Andy, Phoenix, AZ   November 17th, 2007 8:38 am ET

ha ha Rove advising a dem and a Muslim al qaida plant at that? There's something wrong with this picture. The Republicans are really getting desperate. They know Hillary Clinton will kick Rudy the cross dressers butt.

Sue, Michigan   November 17th, 2007 8:37 am ET

So old Karl has found a way to get involved in the Presidential season, as we knew he would! This is advice for the Republicans, who I'm sure are desperate enough to use it.
As to why he wants Barack to win, that's easy. He believes Obama would be easier to "swift boat" that Hillary would be. The Republicans cannot stand the thought of losing all that power, or, just maybe, finally being indicted for their crimes!

Rocco, Wellington, FL   November 17th, 2007 8:37 am ET

For those of us concerned about “OUR” country and (It is not and will never be NEOCON country), very soon following the Iowa caucus the Democratic Candidates need to through their full and complete support behind Hillary. What America needs is to be “United” again by an Intelligent leader focused on what is good for the majority of our people in this Nation. We have lacked all this for the past 7 years, I want it back and I believe Hillary can bring it back.

Mike Atlanta Georgia   November 17th, 2007 8:35 am ET

How ironic given his and Cheney's efforts to hide and or destroy voluminous white house emails and records.

Max, Boston, MA   November 17th, 2007 8:17 am ET

It only makes Obama more likable to think that Rove believes he's running his campaign wrong.

McCain-in-4, Clarksburg, MD   November 17th, 2007 8:13 am ET

Anyone counting Obama out in '08 is obviously selling something. Since when did we have to have a politically trained weaselcrat occupy the most important political office in the world? Mr.Obama has showed grace time and time again during his campaign.

Karl Rove shouldn't publically humilate himself by riding on the coat tails of Barack Obama.

my911call, North Carolina   November 17th, 2007 8:11 am ET

We can thank Rove for the state of this country.
Even Republicans should hate him.
He gave us Bush and in turn brought down the entire Republican party.
I guess he can put that on his resume.

Mark Columbus, Ohio   November 17th, 2007 8:03 am ET

Steve from NY writes:
What about the "hillary exposed" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–that is what should be brought up. That case is in the courts, though I bet none of you has heard about it.

Your right on target man. This just proves that the media is protecting Hillary.

WatchingHillary.com

Cody Harding, Kinsley, KS   November 17th, 2007 8:02 am ET

Rove, a bit of advice: You got someone killed for careless words. Don't ruin another career by them.

To Sen. Obama: Trust your instincts on this one, namely the ones shouting 'STAY AWAY!'. Karl Rove is no man to take advice from, and only seeks to make another pass at the White House by currying favor amongst a top competitor. Please, don't go for it. You're better than that.

Atlanta, GA   November 17th, 2007 7:51 am ET

Just go away Karl Rove, go out another CIA agent, go be the architect in the cheat another country's elections.

Sharon, Newport News, Virginia   November 17th, 2007 7:47 am ET

And I would trust anything that comes out of Karl Rove's mouth. I sure hope the Democrats realize that this in fighting is exactly what the Republicans want them to do. Keep on and we will have another 4 years of economic and political disaster. Another 4 years of Republicans and our country will be turned back to the early 1930's. While we are in another great depression, President Giuliani can walk the streets from soup kitchen to soup kitchen telling us about 9-11 and the role he played.

Chris, Orlando FL   November 17th, 2007 7:37 am ET

Karl Rove engineered two Presidential wins.....what have you witty Libs done?

The most you Libs have accomplished is a successful wait in line for handouts or blind acceptance of pandering from people that don't give a s*** about you.

At least Bush gave me my tax break so I could add to my car collection....the Lib candidates will deliver NOTHING.

Anonymous, Newport News, VA   November 17th, 2007 7:34 am ET

Apparently, most of you would prefer a slimy weasel like James Carville, who got slick Willy to promise us everything and ended up a failure."

++++++++++++++

Glad to see soemone else recognizes the Democrats have there own "weasels" too. Carville, a neanthedal if I ever saw one, along with the former DNC Chairman and slimeball, Terry Mcauliffe, have no less an agenda than does Rove. They're nothing less than caustic political hacks. American politics has really jumped in the sewer with these two.

East Jesus, Nebraska   November 17th, 2007 7:34 am ET

Karl Rove, Supreme Court Justice

Lorraine, Harrisburg PA   November 17th, 2007 7:30 am ET

Once a snake in the grass, always a snake in the grass!! Why doesn't he help his buddies pack up and get ready for the ride out of Washington!!

Jo, ATL GA   November 17th, 2007 7:28 am ET

Isn't bush hidding documents to cover this guy????

My goshhh.... these GOP will stop at nothing. They know they can not face the Clintons. They are running scared.

What shameless hos.

Yes Obama go ahead. I had so much hope to have a Black run as VP now I don't.

r.e. lowe allons, tn   November 17th, 2007 7:26 am ET

Karl rove you slime the dog behind president g.w.bush two white house wins that got america the most corrupt administration the american people has every had no karl keep giving your advise to the republicans slime no thanks.in my opinion again.

Alice Newman Center Harbor NH   November 17th, 2007 7:23 am ET

"Rove also said the Republicans will lose in 2008 unless they "articulate a positive agenda and a positive vision."

The GOP, under Rove, Bush, Cheney and the most submissive, spineless Congress in history, had their 6 years to rule unobstructed even by the Supreme Court.

They blew it – because they only care for the good of the party – never the good of the country.

Pull up your big boy boxers and deal with it!

Tony, Enterprise, Alabama   November 17th, 2007 7:23 am ET

Months ago Senator Obama's campaign started sounding like Carl Rove.

Is anyone surprised by this?

dot, new york, ny   November 17th, 2007 7:22 am ET

Rove, you are the weakest link.

Goodbye!

(and good riddance)
_

Anonymous, Norfolk, VA   November 17th, 2007 7:08 am ET

"What does this guy know but, divisive politics"

***************

Are you talking about Bill Clinton?

Pat   November 17th, 2007 7:06 am ET

maybe Rove can help Clinton by letting her know that Obama has black children. Rove, after all, is an expert on insipid.

roger uville oh   November 17th, 2007 6:24 am ET

Karl Rove is a traitor to the United States and should be treated as such.

Maeve   November 17th, 2007 6:20 am ET

Wow. Advice from Porky Pig. Excuse me while I'm busy not giving a rat's ass.

Why doesn't someone ask Snarl (with all "do" respect, perhaps the "journalist" who submitted this piece) just how long it will take for Dubya to give the go ahead for the release of ALL his records once he's out of office (thank God) and sitting on his thumbs back at the ranch.

Or are the files on Bush's miserable record already in the shredding process there in the Oval Office?

Dave Hilo Hi   November 17th, 2007 6:14 am ET

Hey Darko,
Carville doesn't have the blood on his hands that Rove does. Get a grip.

mark wilkes barre pa   November 17th, 2007 5:49 am ET

Karl Rove is gone from the in crowd and his opinions are not important ?? Hmmmm,,, Then why did CNN feel the need to interview him ? For your hate bashing amusement ? I doubt it,,Could it be Cnn staff and reporters know what you don't ? That Rove was a hired gun,, a man that knows how and what it takes to get elected,, do you think if rove was to turn left today he and his election machine of a brain would not be welcome in your dem/lib camps ???? Every candidate has a karl rove type hired gun in there camp,, his fame and notariaty came at and from YOUR own hands and words. " Look who Rove was able to keep in office for two terms " If you need more convincing on how good rove was at his job and how valuable his opinions are on how to get elected and why the mere thought of him speeking out scares candidates,,, read through and judge the comments listed above based on there merit and you will understand

Moe, NY   November 17th, 2007 5:13 am ET

I think Obama is a Republican plant anyway. If Karl Rove is weighing in, then you know something is corrupt. Hard trying to out think these corrupt, hypocritical GOP (Republicans/Conservatives) public servants. Although, Rove may want Obama out of the picture so that idiot past Mayor of NY will run against Hillary....cannot trust the GOP! Be very leary of the GOP rethoric...is my motto!

Margaret, Houston, Texas   November 17th, 2007 4:26 am ET

Rove,
You sound so desperate and intimidated by this intelligent and experienced candidate. Stop meddling in the democrat's affairs. If you were good enough, you would have been in office. Thanks for acknowledging Hillary as the next President of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

David Laranjeira, Santa Clara, California   November 17th, 2007 3:55 am ET

I see his even trying to help Obama as sabotage. The mere fact that this snake is offering advice serves as a negative association with Obama. You might as well have Nixon calling him up from hell to give him some pointers. Our next president has no need for the sage wisdom of the deceitful and corrupt.

Jaik , chicago, IL   November 17th, 2007 3:49 am ET

This is once again CNN trying to make a story to boost Clinton, by making a misleading headline to try to smear Obama by falsely linking him with a widely despided figure. Rove is an evil genius tho, he manages to damage Obama by being linked to him and by insulting his performance, and thereby boosting Clinton, who would be the GOP's dream opponent, with 15 years of trash on her already

Cameron, Seattle, WA   November 17th, 2007 3:40 am ET

Karl Rove giving advice to democratic presidential candidates? Next the Pope will be giving gays advice on how to run the pride parades better. Sheesh. It's a world gone mad.

Steve, Lyons, CO   November 17th, 2007 3:28 am ET

"What about the "hillary exposed" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–"

The entire Bush administration is one big felony: felony murder of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, felony murder of American troops sent to Iraq to make Halliburton and other Bush buddies rich on oil, treasonous outing of a CIA agent by Cheney and Rove, impeachable destruction of several of our Bill of Rights via the Patriot Act and crazed, unrestrained surveillance of American civilians...

You want to find felonies, nimrod, look at the criminals you helped elect.

Now, apologize to everyone.

Steve, Lyons, CO   November 17th, 2007 3:23 am ET

This bag of crap should be in prison, and instead he meddles yet again.

The Repubs are scared crapless of Hillary Clinton. If she was as "Bushlike" as Obama and Edwards have painted her, why wouldn't the Repubs welcome her with open arms? Switch parties to vote for her in primaries, like they're trying to do in Iowa with Obama.

It's Hillary's to lose.

And just think, what delights me also terrorizes the right: with Hillary, you get Bill. Can you think, folks, of a better man to be made Secretary of State in charge of repairing what the neofascists have destroyed? America's standing in the world, I mean. Clinton was beloved around the free world as president.

Dorothy, White Salmon, Wa   November 17th, 2007 3:21 am ET

Karl Rove's comments brings us back to North Carolina and how he advised George W. Bush to smear John McCain. Yes, we know Karl Rove's kind of politics and I don't want to see that kind of mudslinging in the Democratic Party.

DJ Los Angeles   November 17th, 2007 2:57 am ET

The painting Rove is talking about is a Madonna (by Chis Ofili)not a crucifix. it is a good reminder of how Giuliani runs over 1st amendment rights. Rove with his indictments and Rudy with his marriages etc need to stop trying to corrupt the rest of us with their "values".

Trang, Fremont, CA   November 17th, 2007 2:56 am ET

I think Obama has brought up this issue in the debate – asking them to open the records, except he doesn't push her on it. Hillary is not doing a good job of answering the question, maybe opening the records would help. But Hillary is probably as secretive as George Bush. I think Obama is transparent. He explains his views, defend his views, even when it's not the popular thing to do. Hillary, on the other hand, do a 180 U turn, and nobody follows her up on this. What has changed? What her rationale for changing the position? Why support it before and not supporting now? Does she knows who she is and what she stands for? Doesn't she care about public safety anymore – which was her rationale for supporting it before? This is not attacking. This is to see how the person thinks.

A lot of bad things have been said about Karl Rove. I think in this case, more transparency is better, and I think Hillary should voluntarily do it, but I think she is too afraid to open it up – just as she is afraid to answer questions. And it's true, by not opening it up, it seems she has something to hide.

Al Andres   November 17th, 2007 2:37 am ET

Rove also said "the Republicans will lose in 2008 unless they "articulate a positive agenda and a positive vision."

It's a miracle!!! ROVE TALKING ABOUT POSITIVE AGENDA. IN MY BOOK ROVE IS EQUAL TO MUD SLINGING NO MORE NO LESS.....ARE YOU FOOLING OR ARE YOU FOOLING ME. NO WAY ROVE NO WAY....ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...

Kay   November 17th, 2007 2:30 am ET

Frank from Tulsa: Brilliant!!!! What Great deductive thought process!

Rosemary K. Lake Mills WI   November 17th, 2007 2:28 am ET

So, she may be hiding something. Well, Carl, what have you and the rest of the administration been hiding. I can't wait to find out. And you know we will! It's only a matter of time.

Kathleen Butler, St. Louis, MO   November 17th, 2007 2:26 am ET

Quite ironic that Karl Rove is advising Senator Obama to take Senator Clinton to task for lack of full exposure! I thought Mr. Rove and his former comrades at the White House wrote the book on strategies for preventing public access to government correspondence.

RMRN.Y.   November 17th, 2007 2:21 am ET

Karl Rove is playing it cute by highlighting any so called lost opportunity to hammer Hillary by Barak
Obama which underscores Barak's inexperience politically and makes
Hillary seem smart and in control.

This works for the Republicans in the general election for they are locked and loaded for Hillary.

In a one on one contest which the general election is Barak will have much more media coverage to elaborate and inform on the issues and make lengthy speeches which run to Obama's strengths. In short they want Hillary
and fear Obama, hence the digs on Obama's weakness against Hillary will be underscored at every opportunity
by the chess players behind the scenes
working against Barak.

Barak is essentially up against two machines in this primary – the Clinton's and the Republican's machine.

Can Barak overcome, we will wait and see and pray?

Benjamin R. Miner, San Diego, Ca.   November 17th, 2007 2:09 am ET

I think it is funny that we are supporting stories like this when we as America should be proud of a person that carries the pride and respect not to have to hurl insults or attempt tactics of political undermining. A fresh face Obama is the JFK of the future, a man that has promoted better and realistic change. Although Clinton may own the experience, she is not self made, did not start from nothing.
For those of you out there who are unfamiliar with Sen. Obama, I would suggest you do a little research and learn the roots of this self made man. In regards to whom should be the next president and face of America there is no contest, a man with only best interests at heart Sen. Obama has my full support.
Smearing a campaign should not be a priority for any presidential candidate, the sad thing is that is not the reality for our future whanna-be leaders.

Juanito, Washington, DC   November 17th, 2007 1:42 am ET

Rove must have missed the memo:
Obama said very clearly back in March 2007 that "the most important thing for me, my wife and kids is that regardless how the election turns out, that I emerge out of this process intact. I will not sell my soul to the process, rather I will express my beliefs and vision for America and let the American people decide. I will emerge from this process fully intact and my wife makes sure that we keep checking daily to ensure this will happen."

Obama is not going to stoop to the gutter-level to win...he has integrity.

Nikki, Colorado Springs, CO   November 17th, 2007 1:32 am ET

The very fact that Obama did not come back clear and consise with a "strong" comeback as Karl Rove said he should have instead of showing weakness, only illustrates how weak Obama is, how immature he is, and how inexperienced he is. Is that the kind of person we want representing the U.S. to the rest of the world. I don't!

Personally, I think the mudslinging only shows how threatened the men are of a woman leading this country and makes them look worse in the eyes of the public. They are wasting the public's time. What do they think, we are stupid and cannot draw our own conclusions - that we have to be spoon fed with their inane rhetorical banter flled with insults and stone throwing at another candidate. I say, what goes around comes around. I want a President who takes the "High Ground." Not one who grovels in the trenches and whines because they are losing.

Hillary isn't playing the gender card, these men are and they are looking like idiots on the stage.

If they would quit with the mudslinging, perhaps there could really be a debate on pertinent issues.

Thank you Karl for pointing out another reason why we should not elect Obama.

Amy, Bellevue, WA   November 17th, 2007 1:28 am ET

WGAC....Who Gives A Crap! Me thinks if this gets press time then maybe Lindsay Lohan can give us a speech on why we should stay away from drugs.

David, Dallas Tx   November 17th, 2007 1:20 am ET

When Carville suggested that Jeb Bush run for president, it was only to instill more dissatisfaction among Republican voters for the current candidates–thereby strengthening the Democratic bid for president.

Rove is fighting fire with fire–trying to cause more hostility between the top tier Democrats, thereby disenfranchising Democratic voters and strengthening the Republican bid.

Never trust a political adviser who is offering advice to the opposition.

Rove is the author of Divide and Conquer. Now that he sees the lasting and major damage D&C has done to the Republican party, he's hoping to prod Democrats into doing the same.

Only a fool would follow such advice.

john , atlanta, ga   November 17th, 2007 12:57 am ET

Of course Rove wants Obama to win the Democratic race, he knows that if a Black male is on the democratic ticket, republicans will run to the polls as if they had won the lottery.

David Wooster, Ocoee, FL   November 17th, 2007 12:50 am ET

Typical Rove. He's someone who sees everything as an opportunity to manipulate the American people one way or another. He probably never considered that perhaps Obama decided to take the high road and not try to tear apart a fellow Democrat.

Joshua, Washington, DC   November 17th, 2007 12:47 am ET

For the first time in my career, Karl Rove has said something that actually helps the Democratic Party.

Hillary Clinton is not what America needs because she had 8 years to do and now she wants another 8 years to fix health care and help the Middle Class and the low income families. If she did not do it as First Lady, why would she do it now if elected President? She will not, but everyone will vote for her because you get two Clinton's for the price of one.

America needs to wake up and see that change is not electing someone because you get someone else but because you think they will be what’s best for the change you want to see occur.

Remember, when you vote, vote for change and not the same old as same old

Efrem Lieber Fountain Hills, AZ   November 17th, 2007 12:42 am ET

This is a man who advocates that the Democrats snipe at each other on insignificant issues and the Republicans create a positive message/agenda/vision. What do you expect from a man who lies and tells others to lie for a living? And he'll use any method to subvert those who disagree with his opinions, including "outing" a spy.

TJ, Pittsburgh   November 17th, 2007 12:19 am ET

Rove knows how to win and he's telling it like it is. The reason he knows how to win is because he knows what's on the minds of mainstream Americans.

scott,manchester NH   November 17th, 2007 12:10 am ET

haha...i'm pretty sure CNN just got rid of my comment calling Rove "a pile of human garbage"...
i guess that was considered harsh..

nevermind that very few people really fit that bill like he does..

too much....

gloria cranford nj   November 17th, 2007 12:04 am ET

rove is a loser

Manjit Kaura, Bakersfield Ca 93311   November 17th, 2007 12:01 am ET

Rove does not need to tutor anyone. He has done enough damage to the Mankind as everyone knows. Hillary Clinton has the courage and brains to beat everyone in both parties.
Advise for Rove is to keep his mouth shout and let there be a Real election Of the People By the People and For the People.

Kris Keizer, OR   November 16th, 2007 11:54 pm ET

Someone here mentioned the campaign finance infractions and assumed we knew nothing about this. PLEASE, this is old news and not really even an issue. Let's dig through all of the candidate present and past donations and see what ghosts come flying out of the closet. Oh wait, only Hillary is the crook, the b****, the liar, the flip-flopper and I know I must be missing 20 other names. The Clintons are not the anti-christ of politics for god's sake.

Mike Dallas, TX   November 16th, 2007 11:53 pm ET

I propose something even bolder (I know it is kinda late in the game and I will have little success):

No more cable news presidential debate!

The reason is these corporate media entities are intertwined with the washington power brokers and any body running as an outsider have the deck stacked against them. I came to this conclusion after being disappointed day after day with the disservice of what the corporate media does in misinforming the public and finally today when I learned why Mitt Romney pulled out of the FOX debate. The reason is Guiliani's closeness to FOX and Roger Ailes. I can see why a case could be made based on how CNN is widely staffed by previous Clinton staffers and sympathizers and we have seen how that played in yesterday's debate and post debate spin not to mention the message transmitted to CNN through Drudge.

Election of the POTUS is too important to be left decided on these types of corrupt schemes.

Just like republicans are pulling out of FOX debate because of the favoritism of FOX towards Guliani democrats should say no to CNN given their favoritism towards the Clintons.

The future debates should be done on PBS or CSPAN. These debates should be a forum of competing ideas and not a venue to promote glitter and glamour of anchor people or worse to spin and prop up faltering candidates by loyalist pundits masquerading as "experts".

William Courtland, Waterford, Ontario   November 16th, 2007 11:51 pm ET

As Mr. Colbert was not allowed on the CNN, ... Democratic debate and will not be in the Republican debate, what team are you now rooting for?

The wonderful time of elections when the practice in the senate go into regular season when the insults of the team are no longer limited to the practice field right and it might possibly come to blows once the teams meet in the ring with their respective Most Valued Candidate, after the congregational but not congressional nomination process.

Yet an endorsement from those individuals of Congress, The Senate, governors and other State legislatures are still meant to mean something to those paying active attention, so also legislators or those of the electoral college.

The spectacle of a diarchic aristocracy which displays plutocratic tendencies used to little use and the associated display of the interaction of their rosters; what a display of philanthropic leadership: which might be theophilathropic but is not already an high ordained leader of those of a clerical or papal delegation?

68 administrations for hire, which, might contain overlapping individuals of assembly?

The popular vote: what a contest.

(parties befoul democracy)

scott,manchester NH   November 16th, 2007 11:48 pm ET

the man is such a pile of human garbage..and has taken our country down such a scary,dark road of the slimiest of slimy election tactics..

he really should be in a mental institution (with Bush jr)...

its just that simple...

Kris Keizer, OR   November 16th, 2007 11:47 pm ET

Rove is a crook and a traitor to the American public. I could care less about what he has to say. Yeh, he helped Georgie with the elections, yeh how to break all of the election laws and criminally rig the votes. He is such a loser.

Gabriel, Lakewood, CO   November 16th, 2007 11:40 pm ET

How ironic that the man who arguably is to blame for the perversion of the Republican Party through the politics of smear, hatred and division should now presume to advise them.

Steve, New Orleans, LA   November 16th, 2007 11:40 pm ET

Hmmm. KKKarl Rove has repeatedly said that he wants Hillary to win the nomination because she'd be so easy to beat in the general election. Yet, he wants to offer advice to Obama on how to beat Hillary? Right.

Perhaps Karl knows who'd be the easier candidate to beat and it isn't Hillary.

Liberal Chic   November 16th, 2007 11:27 pm ET

frank tulsa ok :

Heh, heh. You are funny. Maybe you can get together with Laura (Tulsa) sometime and lighten her up. She's a real stick in the mud.

V. C. Novosad, Sugar Land, Texas   November 16th, 2007 11:25 pm ET

When they were in office, the Clintons were hounded by the Republicans and the media to the point that one cannot imagine what would be left to expose. Furthermore, anyone not planning to vote for Senator Obama would welcome an endorsement by Karl Rove. With Rove's sordid reputation, it would be more like a "kiss of death."

Kim Iannone, West Hills, CA   November 16th, 2007 11:20 pm ET

Rove offfering advice about how to get elected is comparable to Ted Bundy giving advice about how to murder someone.

Steve, Lyons, CO   November 16th, 2007 11:20 pm ET

The Architect of Bush Doom, still trying to play kingmaker.

The Republican version of what they claim about Bill Clinton: can't stay out of the news.

Lovell, Inkster MI   November 16th, 2007 11:16 pm ET

I do not understand why Karl Rove had any I mean any room to say where Obama drop the ball at. Look at who he help put in office a President that is leaving our veteran to suffer because of a war that he LIED about, our econmy I am 37 and God help us if I get to 65 or 70 to get my SSI it want be there Why? because this President have went on a shopping spree with our money to pay for a war for getting about the inter structure meaning american people. He so concern about the Oil over there and revenge for his father that he went in blind and do not have a way out, middle class it not a middle class now it rich or poor.

Before he make a comment him and all these other Republican that I see on TV they need to get the white house in order first then worry about what Democrate or doing.

Jed in Texas   November 16th, 2007 11:08 pm ET

Rove and O.J, hand in hand,Orange jump suits on, heading for their cell,what a site that will be! lol

Scott, Los Angeles CA   November 16th, 2007 11:05 pm ET

The headlines on all the major news wires is the disgusting behavior of CNN last night in the debate, or Hillary rally as it is being called. Not one MENTION of this on the CNN site. Joseph Goebbels would blush at this display (for all you CNN watchers, Goebbels was the Third Reich propaganda minister–making him a bad guy). Not one tough question for the Queen, disgusting.

Jim, Opelika, Alabama   November 16th, 2007 10:52 pm ET

He's a fine one to talk about not releasing records. Buddah only knows what kind of criminal dealings are buried in his papers and those of his puppet, King George.

Democrats Rule, CA   November 16th, 2007 10:44 pm ET

The day Obama takes advises from Karl Rove about how to beat Hillary Clinton is the day I become an Independent. Because I won't be able to tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Michael, Clarksville, TN   November 16th, 2007 10:38 pm ET

Rove DOESN'T want to be blamed for a Clinton win....so....he BLAMES OBAMA ! !

Barry Asheville NC   November 16th, 2007 10:22 pm ET

Why haven't the records from Carl and the Weasel in the White House been released. He should look in his own back yard before talking about someone else. He should be talking from a prison cell as should Scooter.

Micahel Guinn, Ventura, CA   November 16th, 2007 10:20 pm ET

The fact that Karl says Barack did it wrong- must mean Barack did it RIGHT!
No "advice" needed from your Gestapo camp Karl-
Run- Don't walk away!
Your "services" were never needed nor asked for by people who actually care about America.
Go Away Karl!

Michael Guinn

Scott Brown Palm Bay, Florida   November 16th, 2007 10:20 pm ET

Ah!!The master has spoken. The man that strikes fear into every democrats heart. I love it!!!!Keep going Karl. It is great to see the democrats spout the same hate they accuse you of.

Bill W, Coatesville, PA   November 16th, 2007 10:15 pm ET

For once in my life, I agree with Karl Rove.

Jim Browne, New Castle, PA   November 16th, 2007 10:01 pm ET

Karl Rove has done more to destroy the democratic process in this country than anyone in recent memory.

Can it be that it was all a bluff and they really DO fear facing Clinton?

Hey while we are talking about releasing documents how about we start with Dick Cheney's vistor log?

It really must suck to suddenly become so irrelevant. AW!!

Former Rightie, Pittsburgh   November 16th, 2007 10:00 pm ET

Rove is the source of all things vitriol expressed by the Republican party. This is not a side comment. When he speaks, it is calculated and with harmful reason. This man and Cheney used the White House puppet to advance their neo-con agendas.

It is good to see so many people seeing this very malicious person for what he is.

Tired of Corruption LV   November 16th, 2007 9:54 pm ET

The only candidate that follows Rove's play book is Clinton. dirty politics as usual.

Mags, Boston, MA   November 16th, 2007 9:47 pm ET

Was this a jailhouse comment? Or has he been indicted yet? I don't think the dems are desperate enough the listen to pure evil. Icky.

Barbara Sutton Chester, Va 23831   November 16th, 2007 9:38 pm ET

Hillary: When you were first Lady there was a man on FBI ten most wanted and took over 20 years and millions to finally get him and then he was pardoned by the Clintons. Then the Rodhams and Clintons made a mint getting pardons for inmates and different people. The man who was pardoned his wife DONATED 1000,000 to your Library.. Any comments

Chris Corbell   November 16th, 2007 9:37 pm ET

What a liar, still and always.

This has long sense been cleared up, Obama would not have had a leg to stand on with this issue, and in any case Rove's strategy skills seem to be rusty – this issue wouldn't be enough to break an election.

There are no suppressed documents, just a mis-read letter from Bill to the archives that wasn't even binding or used in any way to prevent free access.

Rove somehow missed the memo, but he never was concerned about the truth.

You can read the facts on the independent FactCheck.org; a link and summary is on Hillary's Fact Hub.

Michael, Houston, Tx   November 16th, 2007 9:35 pm ET

Thank you by the way everyone, I have read so many of the comments here, echoing my first thought and earlier post as well...

The republicrites are terrified of Hillary running, and with their lack of a strong candidate and the millstone of 8 years of ineffective policies, a war the nation is growing weary of and a village idiot for a president who cannot string two words together intelligently – they should be terrified, their guys can't beat Hillary.

post script on village idiots: yes it matters for the leader of the free world to look somewhat competent, and be able to speak intelligently and present eloquently when on the world stage to garner the respect of the leaders of the world... no matter what a bunch of blind loyalists state otherwise, it matters!

Frank Honolulu HI   November 16th, 2007 9:32 pm ET

I don't think we should listen to Karl. He thinks Hilary is going to win and he doesn't like that. Getting nervous Rove? Do you think we'll listen to you?

Unbelievable.

John, KC MO   November 16th, 2007 9:30 pm ET

Rove is better on how to set agendas to defeat the other party by using personal attacks. He is good as a tool for campaigns but in terms of holding office and doing political goodwill he is a mess. Look at his accomplishments as well as the presidents.

Helen White,Rapid City, SD   November 16th, 2007 9:28 pm ET

This political campaigning a year before the election is absolutely outrageous. Think of the money that has been spend and will continue to be spent.

We should do as the British do, six weeks of campaigning and thats it.

That CNN spent so much time, this evening on the person who asked John McCain a question, and called Mrs. Clinton what she did certainly was not in good taste,and the way McCain reacted was certainly not my idea of Presidential material.

I have not made a determination on the candidate I will vote for, but the name calling is so undignified and should not be tolerated.

matt   November 16th, 2007 9:26 pm ET

Why dos Rove insist on giving the Dems advice? he GOP's in enough of a mess that he should have a full-time job fixing it.

http://political-buzz.com/

Michael, Houston, Tx   November 16th, 2007 9:25 pm ET

So we have to wonder...if Rove who hates all things Democrat, is giving advice to a candidate on how to unseat another candidate, what is his thought process and motivation?

Does he think Obama would be easier to beat, and wishes to help his own party by getting a "losing" dem nominee?

Does he just hate Hillary with such a passion that he will do anything to see her not elected?

I think he is a sleazy political hack, who effectively operates underwater to sabotage people, careers and subjugate laws (reference his emails in the white house) for his side only – never the good of the country, all the while crying foul when he is questioned or verbally attacked, a true republicrite.

If he is for Obama, then I almost instinctively would turn away and consider Hillary to be the one to vote for... to be honest I think she is the best candidate anyway.

Trust nothing this man does or says, he is one of the best backroom operators that ever existed. Anyone who can get that village idiot George Bush jr elected to two terms as president has to be really good.

Remember – not everyone who takes poop off if you is your friend, and Karl knows something about poop...

Brian Gray, Taylor, Texas   November 16th, 2007 9:25 pm ET

Brilliant.

Lisla Lee, Dallas, TX   November 16th, 2007 9:17 pm ET

This advice from the man who has created more secretive, sneaky, deceitful, lying, underhanded political moves than anyone else on the face of the earth... except maybe Dick Cheney.???

The Bush administration has pulled more underhanded garbage than you can imagine. How many secret "executive orders" has this administration issued to avoid public scrutiny? Karl Rove is a disgusting hypocritical scum bag. If Obama should stoop so low as to listen to anything this man says, then that would be reason enough to NOT vote for Obama.

Marty Pacino   November 16th, 2007 9:07 pm ET

Geniuses are like thunderstorms. They go against the wind, terrify people, cleanse the air.

Kierkegaard

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Truth is a commodty and you can't afford it.

Carol, MD   November 16th, 2007 9:06 pm ET

Oh MC Rove. You're talking about a candidate who moves his mistress into the governor's mansion while his wife and kids are living there.VALUES??? You big kidder, you. Yes, you go ahead and give the candidates tips on being sneaky and fabricating whatever it takes.It's like a game of telephone with Freddy Kruger.

Susie, north carolina   November 16th, 2007 9:04 pm ET

karl rove has done quite enough to damage this country! He has damaged the fabric of this country and economy! We should all wake up and become less apathetic. We have so much to lose to people who crave control.

Susie D, Jacksonville, OR   November 16th, 2007 8:57 pm ET

Karl Rove, the Rasputin of the Republican Party, has something MORE to say? Shaddup, Rove! Wish I could say more but my post would be deleted.

Rick, North Carolina   November 16th, 2007 8:55 pm ET

You may or may not like Rove, but the man has a talent that is almost evil.
Remember Hillary has someone smarter on her side, her husband.
Something else is going on in the background for Rove to come out with an interview like this.
It would be to the republicans advantage for Obama to win the democratic nomination but I do not think that will happen.
I think it will be Clinton vs Huckabee
The republicans will have to swing to the far right to pull this one out.

fair,washington,dc   November 16th, 2007 8:55 pm ET

What about the "hillary exposed" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–that is what should be brought up. That case is in the courts, though I bet none of you has heard about it.

Posted By Steven, Syracuse New York : November 16, 2007 6:44 pm

Yea only you know about this thing that all the democratic candidates and RNC and Republican candidates would just love to have to stop the Hillary machine...but for some reason they aren't using it....not into calling names but either you or them are idiots...I know who I think it is , but I'll keep it to myself in the spirit of pitying ignorant people and them maybe not realizing they are an idiot.

Jeffrey Bach, San Francisco, CA   November 16th, 2007 8:54 pm ET

Everything that comes out of this sleazeball's mouth is self serving. If Obama attacks Clinton it helps to split the Democratic Party. Only good for the opposition. Also, by law each of those thousands of documents must be reviewed by Bill Clinton, effectively removing him from the campaign trail. Finally, the release of those documents sets up Hillary for personal Swiftboating. Not this time, Karl. America has no more use for your slimey brand of politics.

Anita, Southlake, Texas   November 16th, 2007 8:53 pm ET

Sounds like someone wants a Sunday morning show.

Nathan, Nashville, TN   November 16th, 2007 8:51 pm ET

Yeah Karl Rove is evil, but he has a point. Sen. Clinton is getting a pass on her past because her husbands presidency is stuck between 2 bushes.Who wouldn't look good. Obama show your teeth please before this robot wins the minds of the mindless.

Candace, Phoenix, AZ   November 16th, 2007 8:48 pm ET

The media have already narrowed this field to Clinton, Obama and Edwards. It would have been nice to have seen a true debate with the entire field.

We're being fed three main Democratic candidates. I sure would have liked to have seen the Biden, Richardson and Kucinich in the debate on par with the so-deemed "top three." Why even invite them?

Say it enough and America will believe there are only three Dems worth considering.

And it's not just CNN, MSNBC did the same thing the last time.

Does the fourth estate even exist anymore? Or is it all about pandering to the ratings. Let's see a real debate and hear from ALL th candidates equally.

Shame on you.

Robert S. Clark, Palm Springs, CA   November 16th, 2007 8:47 pm ET

Karl just never grew up. He's had a rough childhood; and he can't get over his anger and desire to lie to make the world the way he would have it. I know about his dirty tricks from Salt Lake City and the University of Utah. I was in law school there at the time. He never, ever gives a balanced recitation of facts revealing the full story. Omitted in this case is the role played by the Bush administration in funding sufficient people to catalog these thousands of documents before they are sent to the Clintons' for review. Also unmentioned is the net of secrecy President Bush has thrown over his documents and those of his father. Come on, Karl. We're not all impressionable idiots who will believe anything you say as long as you repeat it often enough. Senator Obama would do well to stick to his own strategists and reseachers, rather than taking his cues from someone like you.

KA, OK   November 16th, 2007 8:42 pm ET

There is alot of hate going on here. Whew, I guess I would be worried if the guy who had my number started talking again. There is nothing coming out of the Democrat Party that needs to be worried about.

John Thomas, San Diego, California   November 16th, 2007 8:41 pm ET

What Rove doesn't understand is that nobody else today will stoop to his dirt-bottom level of dishonesty, manipulation, and criminality to elect the unelectable–a fool like Bush. It took a lot of lying to a very gullible American public to get this catastrophic moron Bush into the White House...if he even was ever elected, as many of us feel he wasn't.

jack, Buenos aIRES, aRGENTINA   November 16th, 2007 8:40 pm ET

May warts inflict Mr. Rove eternally, but he is right about Mr. Obama. Could it be that there is nothing there? If not, where is it?

He says nothing, eloquently

Nick, Brooklyn, NY   November 16th, 2007 8:40 pm ET

I hate Rove like the rest of the messageboard, but he's got a legitimate point. I support Obama, but I would love to see that, when he talks about their (his and Sen. Clinton's) differences, he did so in a more challenging manner. Not the Edwards "I just sound angry that I couldn't even carry my own state as VP in the last election" manner, but challenging.

Jan   November 16th, 2007 8:35 pm ET

Why you care, Karl Roves ? What you up to ? Your time is over and back off. You don't have to stir anything here bacause any candedates from Democrats are smarter than your party. We can handle our party well without your "input". No one trust you, even your party, except Bush. Mind your own business. It is proved again and again that any time you give suggestions to Demacrats, bad things happen. Your dirty game is no longer carry any inpact. Save your dance.

Marie, Schenectady New York   November 16th, 2007 8:25 pm ET

Hasn't Mr Rove done enough damage to the republican party-maybe they've had enough of him–he's reduced to trying to run democrats now...

Jane Swartz   November 16th, 2007 8:22 pm ET

This is the advice from the man who worked so hard to help this administration keep every communication a secret under "executive privilege"??!??!?!?!
Puuuulllleeeeaassseee... the last thing anyone should do is sell their soul to this devil and take his advice.

Mike Johnson, Wash DC   November 16th, 2007 8:22 pm ET

Way to go with the fixed debate, CNN! The Clinton News Network is up to its old tricks. How nice of you to "plant" the diamonds and pearls softball question so everyone could fawn all over Hillary!

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Emmanuel, RESTON, VA   November 16th, 2007 8:15 pm ET

Hello?? Obama supporters? Do you know why he is saying that? He knows that the Repubs will walk all over Obama should he get the nomination. Hillary is s threat to them. Wake up ppl. Hillary in 08!

Posted By LeeAnn, San Francisco, CA : November 16, 2007 5:48 pm
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No LeeAnn. I think its the exact opposite because Rove is too much of a cunning fox to reveal his cards. He is encouraging Obama to win so people will support Hillary more as the candidate that can win. Rove is an evil genius all you have to do to make them happy is deliver Hillary to them.

Do you know what an Obama Administration holds for the Clintons & Bush administrations when Obama wins POTUS. The whole can of worms enough to feed all the fish in the world will come out.

I tell you Bush will be more comfortable having Hillary than Obama cos Bush and Clinton are the same.

So read between the lines of what Carl Rove really wants to accomplish, when he shows a smooth road to walk on, please turn around and take the rough road even if your feet hurts. Support Obama please so we can really get our country back.

Manuel Gonzales, Artesia, NM   November 16th, 2007 8:13 pm ET

yeah all the demos need is for some political idiot to instill the republicans idea of dirty politics to confuse the American people...All the demos have to do is run a clean honorable race...We know what dirty politics and lies and inuendos that the republicans used to win the last time got us....No thanks draft dodger Rove...Get lost !!!!

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   November 16th, 2007 8:12 pm ET

This shows how SCARED he and his cronies neo-cons are of Sen. Clinton... Run for the hills!!!! I love it!

donna seattle WA   November 16th, 2007 8:09 pm ET

Have to laugh at these comments - the Clintons are the biggest bullies out there. Its their tactics that got so much blowback from the republicans and gave Rove his career. We are all living the result. Hand the Clintons power again and just watch what happens to this country. More bickering and stagnation while the world explodes.

Troy   November 16th, 2007 8:08 pm ET

Is Rove really this stupid?

Stop trying to get Obama to do your dirty work and shut up! Obama's smarter than you are and has already seen through this garbage.

New York, NY   November 16th, 2007 8:07 pm ET

This guy Rove is completely disqualified to render any opinion on whatever unfolds in the political landscape. He is one, or perhaps t h e architect of the absolute debacle of American policy in generations, perhaps in history. To interview or even cite him is a testimony to how low we have fallen.
reflectivepundit.com

Richard, London   November 16th, 2007 8:06 pm ET

What garbage. The Clintons are moving so fast to release their papers that when a bunch of rightwing loons (Judicial Watch) launched a complaint to speed up the process, the National Archives went to court and said - shut these clowns up, the Clintons are moving as fast as they can.

And the fact that Rove thinks this is a key issue for the campaign shows that he has had his fat face down in the mud for so long that he can no longer distinguish between real issues and mud.

Sam, Portland OR   November 16th, 2007 8:06 pm ET

It goes without saying that Rove is a massive jerk.

But here, he couldn't be more right. And Obama's my number one choice, too.

TheInsider   November 16th, 2007 8:02 pm ET

What about the "hillary exposed" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–that is what should be brought up. That case is in the courts, though I bet none of you has heard about it.
Posted By Steven, Syracuse New York : November 16, 2007 6:44 pm

The criminal case was thrown out. The plaintiff is a convicted felon and drug dealer. Only Hillary haters and the RNC care about this. Which are you? Both? figures....

Denise, Birmingham, AL   November 16th, 2007 8:01 pm ET

Survey says, "Who cares what Rove has to say." Truth is they'd love for Obama to win so the GOP can defeat the black man who defeated the woman. Please, who can't smell this one?

Mark Billingsley, Sacramento , Calif.   November 16th, 2007 8:01 pm ET

Monte...Never saw your response to my challenge yesterday to back up your slop about Hillary being the most qualified and most experienced. What happened? Did you start twisting uncomfortably like Hillary when asked a pointed question. Like yesterday, I'm waiting. I want actual, researched point on how Hillary is more experiened than Obama. Give me proof of anything substantive taht she's AUTHORED, not co-written with a smarter, more savvy senator, and then had passed. I'm right here...

Geoff Williams Raleigh NC   November 16th, 2007 8:00 pm ET

Rove just wants Clinton to win the nomination, as he and GOP fear her alot less than Obama, so they will talk him down every chance they get

TheInsider   November 16th, 2007 7:58 pm ET

Posted By James, Phoenix AZ : November 16, 2007 4:33 pm

Have you always been this smug and this dumb? Are you a LIFELONG republican?

John P. Long Valley, NJ   November 16th, 2007 7:54 pm ET

Karl Rove talking about the importance of "full disclosure?" Really? Really??
There is only one phrase for this–"bare-faced audacity." And my guess is he doesn't care, for he has taken moral relativism to its logical conclusion.

Sophie, Dallas TX   November 16th, 2007 7:53 pm ET

And we care why?

Karl Rove is a creepy fat man who did the creepiest dance at that nice washington dinner not too long ago.

Why would we care at all what this creep has to say about Obama or anyone?

alewife, turner ok   November 16th, 2007 7:52 pm ET

Rove is very simply, the political boy genius

MCD, San Francisco   November 16th, 2007 7:52 pm ET

Rove fights dirty and nasty... I would never stoop to his level... even if it ment losing!!

Johnny D. Omaha, NE   November 16th, 2007 7:51 pm ET

The hate and venom from the liberals shown here for this man is incredible, a testament to his effectiveness and intellect. Thank you Karl Rove for being there when this nation needed you the most ('04) You served the cause of truth and freedom alongside Bush and a grateful nation will always recognize you for the true patriot and American hero you are. Cheers to you Mr. Rove.

Jim L., Irmo, SC   November 16th, 2007 7:48 pm ET

For those who seem to think that it is a sign that Rove is giving advice to Obama. Let me see, seems like Bush said that he thinks Hillary will be the nominee. Hmmm.

Louisville   November 16th, 2007 7:46 pm ET

CNN is so biased on the debate, it's like watching FOX News. Wolf Blitzer and CNN are pro-Clinton anyone can see right through.

I am disappointed with CNN and their coverage of the Democrat debates.

Kalvin Tupelo, Miss   November 16th, 2007 7:38 pm ET

LET'S MAKE A DEAL.....

We conservatives will keep Karl in a dark quiet corner – if you Democrats will do the same with the Clintons.

DEAL?

Meks, FTL, FL   November 16th, 2007 7:36 pm ET

Frank, tulsa, OK:

People like you should stop blogging here. Has it occured to you that virtually everything you said is utter lies and fabrication? This only shows you are not better than people you criticize. Mr Starr spent over $78 million dollars investigating former Pres. Clinton and not $10M as you claimed. His investigation is a public record and there is nothing hidden. The records of the investigation is a matter of public record and is much available. There is nothing in the records that has not been looked at by opponents, friends and enemies. I guess you have not heard the republican senate leader (newt) say the amount wasted in that investigation was in retrospect not worth it. This is an investigation that could not find anything meaningful rather they resorted to using the media pass down rumors and lies that all the money they spent could not substantiate nor find an iota of evidence. Please check your fact before engaging in misinformation and character assassination.

PollM, Dallas Tx   November 16th, 2007 7:29 pm ET

Seven Democratic presidential hopefuls went head-to-head on the issues Thursday night, with the biggest pressure likely on front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Who do you think won the CNN News Las Vegas Democratic Debate at the University of Nevada?

----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=996

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adomani   November 16th, 2007 7:28 pm ET

while i have no intentions of voting for obama, i have this to say to him from my heart...
"be afraid, be very afraid! stay away from this man. your loss is his joy!RUN as fast as you can and as far away as you can from him. do not return his calls nor have your people arrange a conversation with him on your behalf. be afraid, be very afraid."

Bots, Seattle   November 16th, 2007 7:23 pm ET

Good advice Karl, but none of the candidates need to do anything more than what they've already done recently for their own cause. Ms Clinton's lame showings of late reflect that more and more people are beginning to see right through her flimsy web of deceit. She'll need to spin her web more tightly if she wants the presidency, because the only ones that have fallen for her lines are little gnats and flies.

Bob Cobb, Toronto Ontario   November 16th, 2007 7:23 pm ET

'due' respect. not 'do' respect.

grumbles Westport, CT   November 16th, 2007 7:20 pm ET

I am sure Obama heard you.We will know from the next debate if Obama will follow the play from the Repub. handbook. The repubs would love Obama beating Hillary as it would mobilize their base and southern white men thus keepng the White House.

Robert, Oakland, CA   November 16th, 2007 7:18 pm ET

He could always make up complete lies about her. That strategy always worked for Rove. Remind me, why isn't he in prison for treason for intentionally exposing an undercover CIA agent?

ED orlando fl   November 16th, 2007 7:17 pm ET

Karl where have you been Let me guess ?larry craig asked you to reserve his seat at the minneapolis airport rest room It will be difficult to get a seat when the GOP[gay old party] holds its convention in 2008.PS will wives and girl friends be allowed to attend the convention.Just kidding [Maybe]

Steven, Los Angeles   November 16th, 2007 7:13 pm ET

You grammar critics have it all wrong. He did say 'DO respect'! The alternative interpretation, 'Due respect' would clearly indicate that the Republicans feel a certain measure of respect is DUE Hillary, rather than their obvious political desire to DO Hilary. By allowing one of her own fellow democrats to dispatch of her, the Republicans save themselves the nightmare of having to run against her themselves. I'm sure they have crunched the numbers and figured out they'd have a far better chance of beating Obama than Hilary for a seat in the Oval Office.

David Branch, Waco, Texas   November 16th, 2007 7:10 pm ET

All the little Clintonista kiddies dig out their pop up playbook and attack the messenger, not the message. If Hillary is so invincible, why are you all so frightened of what Karl Rove has to say?

San Diego, CA   November 16th, 2007 7:04 pm ET

Go away, Doughboy.

Patrick Peavy Plano, TX   November 16th, 2007 7:02 pm ET

It is obvious that Karl Rove is frightened of Clinton but wants us to think that he is afraid of Obama. Basically he wants to make it seem like he is saying Obama is the real threat. Hopefully we can knock him out with a double punch: Clinton/Obama 2008!

Jay, Kenosha, WI   November 16th, 2007 7:02 pm ET

"this devil"
"Karl, beezlebub Rove"
"reptilian Rove"
"disgraceful human!"
"almost-treasonous viper"
"pus-oozing scab"
"worm of a human being"
"Der Furher...Rot in hell...mouth of Satan."
"natural born hater"

Bush Derangement Syndrome is defined by Wikipedia as the "tendency by some American liberals to blame President George W. Bush for virtually every ill in the world. It also purportedly refers to opposing a position advocated by the President just because he supports it, regardless of the position's merits."

Rove made a good point, but it is simply rejected by liberals because Rove made it. Now that sums up politics today.

If Rove had any sense of humor he'd endorse Clinton.

Sidh   November 16th, 2007 7:00 pm ET

Rove might be considered a genius by some, but to me he is the biggest anti American personality alive. He basks in the glory that he got Bush elected twice. I ask him was that a service to the nation? Facts strongly suggest otherwise.

Harley, Washington, DC   November 16th, 2007 6:57 pm ET

"With all DO respect..."??? Journalism has now hit rock bottom...You should be ashamed, CNN.

Anon, kansas city, missouri   November 16th, 2007 6:52 pm ET

Im a democrat and I hate Karl Rove. I hate him because he's dirty, slimy, corrupt, but most of all because he WINS. Still, I can no longer deny that he is the best political adviser of this era. Let's be honest...no one else on the planet could have gotten Bush elected once, let alone twice.

Only out of moral integrity should Obama ignore Rove. If Obama simply wanted to win, he would give Rove a call and do his every bidding.

john williams san diego, ca.   November 16th, 2007 6:51 pm ET

CLINTONISTAS...Rove is not your enemy anymore and he is not obama or deans' enemy...He is trying to protect America from the 'war machine' that is revving up..Begala, Lehane, Penn and Carville are returning to smear ANY opponent of her Royal Highness..Beware

SGA   November 16th, 2007 6:47 pm ET

Why would Rove want to help Obama? Something wrong with that picture. Rove is a die-hard, in your face, neoconservative Republican, and Obama is a watered down Democrat. Do the math.

Steven, Syracuse New York   November 16th, 2007 6:44 pm ET

What about the "hillary exposed" video (just Google it) that we have heard nothing about, those are felony campaign finance violations–that is what should be brought up. That case is in the courts, though I bet none of you has heard about it.

Richard, St. Paul, Mn   November 16th, 2007 6:44 pm ET

Rove is afraid of Hillary Clinton and I still haven't figured out why. His mission, nowadays, seems to be to plant seeds of doubt about her into the minds of the voters. I'm not a Hillary fan, but I know that if Rove says something about someone, he's undoubtedly got a hidden agenda.

Kellie, Albuquerque, NM   November 16th, 2007 6:40 pm ET

Hillary is evil, Rove is evil, and our country is feeding her evil ways. When will we get out of our evil comfort zone and vote for true change? I'm SICK that people would actually want another nepotistic administration in 2008. Go Obama!

wale azeez boca raton florida   November 16th, 2007 6:39 pm ET

Granted rove is not an angel, I think a lot of people are reacting too fast to his comments...he does have a point afterall he has been in the upper echelon of society for a bit...what if the clintons do have something to hide in the archives? Something that could send hilary's poll frenzy downhill. Personally though i think obama has gotten the point accross as far as hilary's sleaziness–I hope I spelled that right– now it's time for him to focus on romeny and rudy...honestly that's the election he should be worried about.

Bill, Streamwood, IL   November 16th, 2007 6:39 pm ET

Looks to me like Karl Rove, for some reason, is really terrified that Hillary Clinton might become president.

Perhaps I dismissed HC as a viable candidate too early. I mean anyone who scares Rove that much might be worth electing after all.

Mike, Boston MA   November 16th, 2007 6:39 pm ET

This is...
Clinton News Network

CNN will do their utmost to defame Barack Obama, but people will eventually wake up to the Clinton machine...

Trollmaster, CA   November 16th, 2007 6:38 pm ET

Rove giving advice on how a politician should be more open is like a prostitute giving lessons on chastity.

And let's remember he resigned in disgrace because he didn't show up for a subpoena and is terrified of testifying under oath before congress.

Rove is a traitor with no credibility.

Scott,Tupelo,MS   November 16th, 2007 6:36 pm ET

Like him or not he got that idiot Bush elected to Governor and the President twice. He is a political genius. Give credit were it's due. Even though I personally depise him. If the Democrats had someone half as good as Karl they would destroy the Republicans.

Andy, New York, New York   November 16th, 2007 6:35 pm ET

Karl Rove? A master political strategist who knew what it took to beat DemoRats and liberal/leftwing media houses to get Dubya elected TWICE to the White House. As former WH Chief of Staff, he had to know some damaging inside stuff on Hillary from her days as First Lady, and that's why he is still relevant to campaign politics that features Hill and Bill. Hillary Clinton? A former First Lady turned New York Senator with lots of skeletons in her closet from her days as First Lady (and co-President). Wrapped in Democratic presidential candidate garb, she wears Republican undergarments while thinking leftwing and speaking rightwing. No, she's not confused; she's an experienced political con artist who changes positions on issues conveniently, but is very uncomfortable when unprepared.

S, Orlando, FL   November 16th, 2007 6:33 pm ET

Did anyone ask for his opinion? Go to hell, you sniveling piece of garbage.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   November 16th, 2007 6:33 pm ET

Yes, of course, it's better to shoot the messenger...

jw, canadian,ok   November 16th, 2007 6:30 pm ET

Rove is smarter than your average Republican, he doesn't want to run against Hillary, Obama is beatable.

frank tulsa ok   November 16th, 2007 6:26 pm ET

This just solidifies the speculation that the Repubs are SCARED TO DEATH OF HILLARY. Unless, of course, it's an "overt double cross" designed to make it look like they favor Obama so people will think that they are against Hillary when they really aren't
so Hillary wins the nomination giving them a chance to let Kenneth Starr unleash sensitive information he found about Hillary during his 10 million dollar investigation thereby enabling them to sabatoge Hillary's presidential aspirations while slipping Dennis Miller in at the last minute for the Repub nomination in order to get Jeb Bush in as VP only to turn around and schedule Dennis on a hunting trip with Cheney and thereby incapacitating Dennis to be an effective President putting Jeb in the Oval office.

I mean it's so obvious!

Ba Gua Zhang, SanFrancisco, CA   November 16th, 2007 6:24 pm ET

It's a terribly sad commentary on our politics, culture and nation that someone like Rove has so much influence. It just goes to show that people are way out of touch with the Tao.

Brad, from the great state of Texas   November 16th, 2007 6:20 pm ET

Boy, I can't wait to hear the responses from this post!! I know all of you have a lot of cute, fear-inducing nicknames for Rove(I'm no fan of his either), but the fact is he is one the most brilliant and shrewd political strategists this nation has EVER seen. That just burns you guys up inside, doesn't it, since you liberals believe you are so much more intelligent and enlightened than conservatives. Hopefully I don't get too many death threats from all of you!

Tanya, Manhattan Beach CA   November 16th, 2007 6:20 pm ET

Always remember Rove's "divide and conquer" tactics. It's been a powerful force in this country for some time, and, has allowed the Republican party to gain considerable power by destroying potential concensus among divergent groups. Without alienation, fear and chaos...this administration would have never seen a second term. Rove and other neocons have repeatedly said Clinton will most likely win in 2008. Meanwhile the neocon minions will be doing everything to destroy the Democratic front runner. Rove, that rock you've been living under is calling. Please return home at once.

w19 CA   November 16th, 2007 6:20 pm ET

Now a day after the debatte that blitzer and the camera team lost for Clinton CNN has to bring Rove into the ticker for another negative spin on Obama – that Obama serves the people while the clinton machine is geared to get into power and (ab)using it for special interest as exhibited by Rove.

victor, flroal alabama   November 16th, 2007 6:10 pm ET

Republicans which are known well by rove knows they can beat a black man but have not gto a chance agianist clintion. so i uderstand why he would say that.

Marie VanDyke Royal Oak Michigan   November 16th, 2007 6:07 pm ET

oh im sorry i thought he resigned..why is he talking he helped bush screw up

dilmont   November 16th, 2007 6:06 pm ET

Actually, I think the last thing Obama – or any serious candidate – would want is to be associated with Rove in any way, shape or form. And come on – are we really to believe that rove has any interest at all in 'helping' a Democrat – or even a moderate Republican (if any still exist and are willing to admit to it)?

Janet/Chandler AZ   November 16th, 2007 6:05 pm ET

Karl Rove needs to keep his trap shut and mind his own business. What a jerk!

EUNICE, MARYLAND, U.S.A.   November 16th, 2007 6:03 pm ET

Hey Obama,
You better take his advice.

Debby, Fort Worth, TX   November 16th, 2007 6:03 pm ET

Look who's talking-the man behind the most secretive White House in history. He has no credibility in my book!

Scot, Gurnee IL   November 16th, 2007 6:02 pm ET

The repubs are in this predicament because of Karl Rove's failed policies.

Walt, Belton, TX   November 16th, 2007 6:01 pm ET

Apparently, most of you would prefer a slimy weasel like James Carville, who got slick Willy to promise us everything and ended up a failure.

Which one of the candidates is the least worst, again?

rbodin   November 16th, 2007 5:59 pm ET

Rove lost the house and senate. Keep talking big man.

humpf, Mo   November 16th, 2007 5:59 pm ET

The Butterball came out just in time for Thanksgiving!

America over politics   November 16th, 2007 5:58 pm ET

BRAVO! From the icon of our political future!

He has taught us that dishonesty, sneakiness, falsification, mislead, deception, and lying is the way to campaign and run a Presidency.

God help this country!

Carol, California   November 16th, 2007 5:58 pm ET

"With all do respect".. should have been spelled "due". Quite often, words on the crawl and headlines on screens behind anchors are misspelled. You should take more care with that – you look dumb.

But on to the point of the post: please Barack, take Rove's or anybody's advice to get Clinton out of the picture or the Republicans will win again in '08.

J.Nicholson, Austin, TX   November 16th, 2007 5:58 pm ET

That's what we Democrats need - like a hole in the head - advice from the reptilian Rove.

Megha, San Antonio, TX   November 16th, 2007 5:57 pm ET

Do people actually let him even speak? Either his mouth should be taped or everytime he tries to speak, he needs to be slapped. What a loser? Dividing the democrats? yo, we might be supporting different candidates but we are still democrats, you disgraceful human!

Ron, Carlisle, MA   November 16th, 2007 5:56 pm ET

Guess What! Rove would like Obama to be nominated, since he knows he will not be elected.

DL, San Diego, CA   November 16th, 2007 5:55 pm ET

Please quote people correctly. It's "with all due respect" not "with all do respect". What journalism school did the reporter go to?

MH, Westlake Village,CA   November 16th, 2007 5:50 pm ET

Although I cannot stand Rove, he understands how to spin, reminiscent of James Carville. It would have been interesting to see them go head to head in a campaign. Unfortunatley, they missed each other by one election.

LeeAnn, San Francisco, CA   November 16th, 2007 5:48 pm ET

Hello?? Obama supporters? Do you know why he is saying that? He knows that the Repubs will walk all over Obama should he get the nomination. Hillary is s threat to them. Wake up ppl. Hillary in 08!

Helen, NY   November 16th, 2007 5:48 pm ET

Karl, why should you give advice to these liberals. You can see all rotten comments here on CNN. World has become evil. Nobody wants to listen to a good advice. In any case Barack has no chance. He has no experience at all.

David Rigsbee, Raleigh, NC   November 16th, 2007 5:47 pm ET

with all "do" respect, that's with all due respect.

Joe C., Elephant Butte, NM   November 16th, 2007 5:47 pm ET

Ah, the irony. To think that the last guy Rove advised now has a 30% approval rating. Why should Obama take his advice?

Jackson, Morongo Valley, CA   November 16th, 2007 5:46 pm ET

Why does the media even give this almost-treasonous viper a outlet for his opinions? Enough Karl Rove already!

Delores Hayward, Seattle WA   November 16th, 2007 5:45 pm ET

who really cares what Karl Rove thinks?

Jeremy   November 16th, 2007 5:44 pm ET

The contrast between Hillary and Obama on open government is clear enough without getting all Rovian. Hillary's health care task force was a model for cheney's energy task force. Obama got the fist ethics reform in 20+ years through in IL and also passed open government reforms in the US Senate. He's also got the best reform package of any of the candidates.

Jim Gulf Breeze, Florida   November 16th, 2007 5:42 pm ET

Go back to your hole and take Bush and
Cheney with you, LOSER!!!!!

Diane Panama City Fl   November 16th, 2007 5:42 pm ET

If Mr. Rove is such a political guru, how come he got it so wrong with the '06 mid-term elections whereby President Bush lost control of Congress? My suggestion to Senator Obama is, "I don't think I would be taking any advise from someone who couldn't see that political tsunami coming his way."

Anna Chicago, IL   November 16th, 2007 5:41 pm ET

I am in no way a fan of Karl Rove, but he must know something if he managed to convince the general population not once but twice to nominate Bush. I'd say don't take his advice on blind faith but listen for a mintue about what he has to say.

Ken, O Fallon, MO   November 16th, 2007 5:40 pm ET

Rove and his criminal friends and thier dishonest and sleazy tactics are the reason the US is such a mess right now. IF any Democrat took the advice of this slime I would NEVER vote for them. Rove is EXACTLY what is WRONG with US politics today. He has orchestrated the scenerio where the US is now the most hated country in the world. Bin Laden is more popular in the world than Bush.

Robert, Shelton, CT   November 16th, 2007 5:40 pm ET

Rove is right for once when it comes to what the Republicans are going to have to pull out of their hats to win in 08'

Tom, ALBUQUERQUE, NM   November 16th, 2007 5:40 pm ET

The Dems should ignore this tongue of venom. Let him concerns his ideas and rhetoric to the republicans and not the Dems. To allow this man to have any sway among us is tantamount to making a truce with the devil. He will try to inject and interlope himself in this campaign because he do believe he is a political genius.

Beth Bowers, Evanston IL   November 16th, 2007 5:38 pm ET

You might want to proofread your copy:

"Senator, with all do respect..."

DJ, Los Angeles, Calif   November 16th, 2007 5:37 pm ET

Oh please...spare me your twisted logic.

Of course you'd love to slam Obama at every opportunity.

You'd lose your favorite anti-Democrat lightning rod in Clinton.

Obama doesn't play that game and is focused on building bridges between the parties.

fair,washington,dc   November 16th, 2007 5:36 pm ET

If this isn't further proof that the RNC and the Republicans top priority, main agenda is to beat Hillary and worry about the rest later then you are just not trying to see it. They do not want to see Hillary in the general election...they must know something thats got them really scared.

Tim Willard, Missouri   November 16th, 2007 5:34 pm ET

We'll take your input under consideration, Karl.

And we may use it if ever we feel the need to expand the damage you've already done to our country.

Darko, New Orleans LA   November 16th, 2007 5:32 pm ET

If James Carville had made that statment, you'd all be oohhing and ahhing at his profound wisdom.

Chris, Miami FL   November 16th, 2007 5:27 pm ET

That is really good advice! I think the American people as saying, "You know what? I have my doubts and its clear that you lead the campaign for what will go down as the worst President and Presidency in the history of the United States". You can lie to the public, but the history of this presidency and the people behind it will be written in history and the legacy of the Bush administration will speak volumes about Rove and those who took the trust of the American people and misguided the good intentions of the American people.

Raymond, El Paso TX   November 16th, 2007 5:27 pm ET

Oh rats! Rover's out of the kennel and the muzzle is off.

JD Rugby ND   November 16th, 2007 5:25 pm ET

Karl Rove – another pus-oozing scab on the festering sore of our current political landscape.

Dazed and Confused in DC   November 16th, 2007 5:23 pm ET

The Republicans never have–and never will–beat a Clinton. Why? Because unlike all the other Democratic candidates that have run against the Bushes and their disgusting tactics, the Clintons know how to counterpunch effectively. This was on display for the largest cable news viewership in history last night. I for one can't wait to see Sen. Clinton train her sights on whichever candidate the Republican slime machine pukes up this time.

Tim G., Hillsboro, OR   November 16th, 2007 5:20 pm ET

This advice is odd coming from a man that spent so much time and energy concealing the arrest records, military records, and Presidential records of his ex-boss, GW Bush.

Kay Speer Atlanta, GA   November 16th, 2007 5:18 pm ET

It would be nice if the writer of this article were literate enough to spell "do respect" as "due respect". With all due respect; Kay

Jeff, Minneapolis   November 16th, 2007 5:14 pm ET

Rove may have helped Bush steal one election and barely win another, but he also helped Republicans lose control of Congress in an historic landslide. What a winner.

Willy Chesapeake, VA   November 16th, 2007 5:11 pm ET

Obama go after the Clinton's. Don't be afraid of them. The media won't like you going after baby and her man but she is not the best for America. It's ok for us to come off the Clinton plantation.

Craig C. Naperville, IL   November 16th, 2007 5:10 pm ET

Obama would do well to distance himself from Rove's comments. Rove has proven himself adroit playing one against the other for purely ulterior motives. Obama should see that Rove isn't offering help to his efforts, but rather by taking down the front runner Clinton, Rove is working to improve the chances of for the republican nominee in '08.

Mike R. , New Orleans, Louisiana   November 16th, 2007 5:09 pm ET

Thank God! I've been wondering for weeks what Karl Rove thinks. Sorry Karl, but just because you have the skills to get someone elected doesn't mean that person should be elected.

A man with no moral values whatsoever should stay out of U.S. politics now that he has damaged our country.

David Cunningham, Wilton, CT   November 16th, 2007 5:08 pm ET

This from a guy who helped build an administration based on secrecy. When will the Bush administration release all the information that Congress has requested and is entitled to?

Kevin, Hannibal, Missouri   November 16th, 2007 5:07 pm ET

Instead of coaching Obama, how about this worm of a human being slithers back to the cesspool it came from.

Pb Coleman - Dallas, Texas   November 16th, 2007 5:06 pm ET

Nice of Carl to offer "advise" on how to win political "advantage". However, we are tired of his methodologies and tactics. I personally turn a deaf ear to anything that appears to be a "Rovian" move by any candidate. Fool us three times – shame on us.

Matt, Arlington, VA   November 16th, 2007 5:06 pm ET

This man is right on. It's hilarious–I know this is the man the Democratic party demonizes.. but this statement alone provides that he knows and understands integrity and what a leader must do to distinguish himself, rise above the corruption and deliver American's a message of exceptionalism. Bravo.

Karen Vancouver, Canada   November 16th, 2007 5:03 pm ET

Whatever Karl Rove has to say is not to be trusted.
I like all the Democratic Candidates, but I believe Hillary is the strongest and Karl Rove knows it and Karl Rove doesn't do anything that would be to hurt the Repugs.
Karl Rove should just go away, I think he caused enough damage.

John, Euless, TX   November 16th, 2007 5:03 pm ET

I guess Rove is an Obama advisor now? Watch out!!! I wonder why Rove wants to give Obama tips on how to beat Cinton?

Bob Grzesiak DeWitt, Michigan   November 16th, 2007 5:02 pm ET

Why would anyone listen to Karl, "beezlebub" Rove about anything. At least Lee Atwater apologized for all his dirty tricks.

People of this nature should recieve NO press. He is a scourge on the political landscape of this country.

Steve, Portland, OR   November 16th, 2007 5:01 pm ET

Let's just hope if/when Obama does get the nomination then get elected one of his first priorities is getting some of the numerous committees to start looking into all the crooked politics you and the Bush brought on to the American people. We all know Clinton won't, cause she has lots to answer to as well.

Tanya, Manhattan Beach CA   November 16th, 2007 5:01 pm ET

Uh, Rove, with all due respect, uh it's about all those missing e-mails, records the White House has refused to turnover, etc. It's entirely within the power of you and your bosses (former bosses) to immediately order the release of those documents. How about it??

Jed in Texas   November 16th, 2007 5:01 pm ET

The biggest lying slanderer in recent history knows how to sling mud and more venom than anyone. He just cant stay under his rock.Hes afraid of Clinton getting elected and thats that.Im not voting for her, buts lets hope we have learned the lesson this K-street crook has given us!

Jon G. Paris, TX   November 16th, 2007 5:01 pm ET

Do we really want to take advise from this man? Don't worry Barack, just keep doing what you do best, bring hope and chang3 the way of politics! We've seen what this man's politics can do, it's time for an Obama administration!

Rigo, Somerviile MA   November 16th, 2007 4:59 pm ET

Rove is an awful man, and him talking about 'positive vision' is possibly the height of hypocrisy. What a joke.

Kalli, Orlando, FL.   November 16th, 2007 4:58 pm ET

I can't believe Karl Rove is actually accusing anyone of not turning over documents and hiding truths. He and Dick Cheney are the most shady and criminal figures in American political history.

Grandpa Jim St Louis, Mo   November 16th, 2007 4:58 pm ET

Just what the Democrats are looking for, advice from the man most responsible for the current divisions in our government and the nation. If anyone is looking for good advice in this presidential race, the best advice would be ignore whatever this man says! It just amazes me that he's not in prison along with his cohorts Cheney and Bush. Shows how far we are from a real democratic government and a functional justice system.

Steve Strange, Mountain View, CA   November 16th, 2007 4:57 pm ET

Oh please. Obama should take advice from Rove? Rove wants nothing more than for both Clinton and Obama to look bad. The Republicans are shaking in their boots because they don't have a candidate than can beat Hillary, and the only hope they have is that the Democratic candidates descend into epic mudslinging. Rove has done enough damage - recede into the shadows once and for all, please!

Alec, Miami Florida   November 16th, 2007 4:55 pm ET

Coming for somebody who kept documents hidden when asked by the Subcomittee to render them.... Big sense of humor!!

Dan, Woodbury, MN   November 16th, 2007 4:53 pm ET

Hey CNN, why not let Turdblossom answer whether he had any role in US prosecutors charging Democrats to influence elections, or purging those who didn't? So instead he gets to pontificate on the Obama vs. Hillary question in this article? Doesn't the messed-up war and utter mediocrity of the Bush administration make him lose some credibility? Oh wait, I forgot I was on CNN.com one of many news outlets to lose their way the past 6 years.

Corbett, Seattle WA   November 16th, 2007 4:50 pm ET

Obama, you will submit to the awesome power of Rove! Only HE can give you a permanent majority! Resistance is futile! Resistance is futile! Resistance is futile!

lavelle Rochester,ny   November 16th, 2007 4:49 pm ET

Tell Karl Rove Obama does not need any of his retarded political tactics to win the white house. Curropt negative attacks is not what Obama is about. Just go home and shut up!

Jeremy, Columbus OH   November 16th, 2007 4:49 pm ET

Thanks Karl for your wonderful insight. However, I'm sure Obama would not prefer to stoop to the level that you and Bush sunk to in order to get elected. And yes your right, the Republicans will loose in 2008 because this country has finally woke up to realize what Republicans are truely like.

Monte Brown, New York, NY   November 16th, 2007 4:48 pm ET

Is Karl Roves kidding or what? We all know that Obama would love to use some of Roves’ tactics to try and take down the sure fire winner Hillary, but seriously. Anyone who is trying to hear what that natural born hater, Karl Roves, has to say is a hater themselves. Roves’ bars are washed up like old soap.

Obama should just join the Hillary team because Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD.

Blue in a Red State - Phoenix, AZ   November 16th, 2007 4:46 pm ET

Go back to your cave Karl. No one wants to hear your empty opinions and faux political babble.

This wasn't about slamming Clinton or Obama – this was about forcing a question out into the media that he feels the Republicans should latch onto. Given where Bush is sitting right now, the Republicans can't run fast enough to get away from Rove and Bush.

Jeremy   November 16th, 2007 4:40 pm ET

What does this guy know but, divisive politics.

Amy, D.C.   November 16th, 2007 4:39 pm ET

Ha! Oh the irony of hearing that statement coming from the mouth of a snarling sneak like Rove - its too much to bear...

Manq, Los Angeles, CA   November 16th, 2007 4:35 pm ET

I knew this devil would come crawling back out from under the rock. He even sounds lucid.

James, Phoenix AZ   November 16th, 2007 4:33 pm ET

Mr Rove – SHhhhhhhhhhhh.

Better to have Hillary cakewalk into her nomination without much REAL challenges to her record, her flip-flops, or baggage.

Once in the general election – THEN the floodgates should open. If Hillary thinks the "boys are piling on" now... she'll think she's at the bottom of a rugby scrum during the general election!

Go Hillary!!!!

Lucian Bourne/Kilgore,TX   November 16th, 2007 4:31 pm ET

Why would any one care what Karl Rove thinks?

Ben   November 16th, 2007 4:30 pm ET

Karl Rove needs to go back under his rock.

Barack Obama is the anti-Karl Rove, and does not need his advice.

Judy, San Francisco CA   November 16th, 2007 4:26 pm ET

Der Furher comes out of the shadows. Rot in hell, Rove. Everything you say is from the mouth of Satan.

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