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Elizebeth needs to worry about her health, and foget about John in this race, he will never get my vote. Hillary will get my vote for sure and I will pray for her to get the chanch

Again, book yourself on the view at the same time as Michelle, then we'll see some real fireworks.

Of course Elizabeth took this topic. How could John approach it without insulting women who are more then qualified trying to get their fair share. And, Yes, the Presidency is the ultimate glass ceiling. I don't know if I like her less when she is doing her husbands dirty work or when she is just being out and out obnoxious. I will have to ponder this a bit.

How many years do you think you'll wait for a woman to be president again? If he wasn't your husband you'd vote for her, right?

Elizabeth Edwards is John Edwards biggest liability. She has no filter and is constantly contradicting herself. Elizabeth is constantly attacking the other Democratic candidates with a nasty tone that her husband would never use. It seems like she thinks people will take it from her because she has cancer and therefore people won't go after her.

People should research the candidates records from both parties on their own and then make an informed vote.

When candidates spend most of their time attacking the other candidates rather than discussing their own policies, you know they are sinking.

Some of you may not LIKE Hillary but with our country in the condition that it is in now...it is time to elect someone that can do the job right..even though you may not LIKE them. Hillary is a very smart and passionate woman who will guide this country back in the right direction. You may not LIKE her but you can't deny that she is a very smart person with many smart people around her. Also, Hillary being the first female president in history will set an example for every person running for the same position from this point on in the future. She will do a great job as a smart and effective leader. I can see other world leaders wanting to listen to her and work with her. I don't see Edwards or Obama gaining the respect of other people around the world as much as Hillary could and would. That respect is very important since we still consider the President the Leader of the Free World. Bill is also a great asset to us and would do a great job in helping build healthy relationships with country's that have drifted from us in the last 7-8 years. So, you may not LIKE Hillary but she is the most likely to do what is right for America on a global level.

The latest USA Today Gallup Poll of all registered voters:

Clinton (52% favorable, 45% unfavorable, +7 pts)
Obama (53% favorable, 30% unfavorable, +23 pts)
Edwards (50% favorable, 31% unfavorable, +19 pts)

Gee, fellow democrats, which of these ones doesn't look like the others. Get a clue! Hillary is not electable in the general election. Not only will you Hillary supporters cost us the presidency, all of those Republicans that would stay home on voting day because of anger with their own party would now be energized to show up at the voting booth. You don't think that will cost Democrats in other positions at both a local and national level?

Edwards/Obama or Obama/Edwards '08

Thank you, CNN, for the nice edit.

Dawn,

I tried to post that if you are basing a descion, even in part, on a sexist ideal than it is wrong. To run this country we need to see beyond these petty ideas.

Please read:
"Consider the statement "One of the reasons I won't vote for Hillary is because she is a woman." What would you have to say about that person? It is just as irrational and irresponsible as "One of the reasons I am voting for Hillary is because she is a woman."

This is about HOW the nation will be run, not which bathroom the president will use. Gender has nothing to do with it, except for people who want to make a big deal out of it."

Dawn,

Sorry but I just realized something else. In you latest post you accuse me of leaving parts out to make you "appear to be a moronic prevaricator."

You accuse me and then do the same:
"Wow. I guess you do have other reasons. Like your hero, you too can't stay with a single story. I guess it isn't your only reason, but this reason..."

The first, I conceede, is a backhanded comment. But I do recognize that you have other reason.

I am not a sexist. In fact, I am opposed to sexism, that is why I am posting this.

Do not accumse me of trying to make you look bad. I am only pointing out my observed flaws in people's judgment and arguments.

Oh God she is almost as bad as Kerry's big mouth wife...Elizabeth take your lil girly man husband with you and LEAVE....

Dawn,

Please read my later post:

"Consider the statement "One of the reasons I won't vote for Hillary is because she is a woman." What would you have to say about that person? It is just as irrational and irresponsible as "One of the reasons I am voting for Hillary is because she is a woman."

This is about HOW the nation will be run, not which bathroom the president will use. Gender has nothing to do with it, except for people who want to make a big deal out of it.

Posted By James, Boston, MA : November 18, 2007 6:55 pm"

If your choice is that you believe that she is a strong leader, more power to you. However, by stating that a reason that you "think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)" You are using an irrational argument to make a critical descision.

If you are goint to use this argument, then base it on something more solid the a sexist ideal. I don't know why you are upset with having this pointed out.

Hillary intends to change this country by making it a sister-country to Communist China.

Just because Hillary Clinton is a women doesn't mean she is a women who cares about women. Hillary only cares about herself, and power, by becoming the President. Name one thing she has done for the women's movement, this was her era. She is a privledge women who went to Wellesley and law school and after taking the bar twice, finally past, the second time. She went to work for a big wealthy law firm, she obviously had no trouble getting in, during a time when few women were being hired for any type of job except for someone's secretary, then treated like crap and probably forced to leave because of sexual harrassment in the work place. Laws were past to help protect women, for shallow treatment in the work place, unfair pay, and fight goes on for equal pay for equal work, between men and women and black women and white women. Hillary has never stood up for women, only for herself. A women named Paula claimed to be sexually harrassed by her husband, during the time he was the governor. Did she have sympathy for this women, she is still married to this man. Again, she cares nothing about women and the issues they have, she is a phony, and it's about time other women see through her. Again she brings up her experience of 35 years when the only experience she has had in the government(excluding Senator) is being wife of President Clinton. People, don't make the mistake of voting for this women.

We need a president who will not divide us, who has good cross over appeal. Independents and some republicans will vote for that guy. We need some one who has global over view, respected by many, who is straight forward and is least madeup, not necessary has too much money but he is rock solid. CNN during recent debate refered him as a second tier candidate but he is real first rate and he is Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden can make a difference. Let us give Joe consideration he deserves.

I feel like Iraq was a mistake, some others don't agree and get really mad about it. It just seems like the game always has to be played the same exact way all the time. I feel stiffled by the inflexibility. Now women in general have a lot of good qualities that they can bring to the table and change the types of rules that aren't working. However Hillary doesn't seem to be using her womanness, but instead seems to be trying to play by the same old rules.

Edwards is angry and has run a very negative campaiagn. Based on the polls, his political life will be finished in about 2 months.

Being a former senator, Edwards will be the only loser comparing with other dems candidates, who will either be nominated (likely Hillary), or be picked as VP (likely Biden or Richardson), or may be given responsible position when the dems win the next election (remaining candidates except Edwards).

He is going for broke, and hopes to knock off Hillary with his negative campaigns, so that he may be picked by Obama as his VP. His action appears not working based on his poll standing.

I can hardly wait to see him and his wife gone, as they are hurting the dems party and the nominee in the next election.

Martin, Clarksville, your slogan is in decay, needs treatment.

Dan Bruce, your comment is same as Elizabeth said. You should know The Clinton's are the most brilliant politicians and leaders in this Country. Your hatred is a mistake, your hatred hurts America, American voters are smarter than John and Elizabeth. I watched every debate, I couldn't find any better option than Hillary Clinton, I couldn't make you like Hillary, you can't change my mind either. Randy, NY, did you complain about Philadelphia debate? It was a planned scenario for their business, that's why it was the worst and dirtiest debate in our history. CNN staffs are doing the best job, I trust CNN more than Fox or MSNBC.

I'm sorry James (Boston, MA.). I don't understand your criticism. Here is the quote again with the relevant part capitalized.

It is absurd and insulting every time anybody suggests that the ONLY reason Sen. Clinton's female supporters are voting for her is because she is a woman. SOME WOMEN THINK SHE IS A STRONG, COMPETENT LEADER WHO CAN RUN THE COUNTRY WELL (as do many men). And then, ON TOP OF THAT, IN ADDITION TO IT, we think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)

So, I wrote in my post that I supported Sen. Clinton because she is competent etc. And, furthermore, I ALSO thought it was time that America had a (strong, competent) female president.

I frankly don't understand why this idea is valid only if other women are running. I pick her from among the current crop of all-male candidates because I find her superior to them, i.e., stronger and more competent. Of course, if you leave out the part where I state that my support of Sen. Clinton is based first on her competence and strength, I appear to be a moronic prevaricator. But if you put that part back in, then your response becomes, as I wrote above, puzzling.
Now, if your accusation is that I have more than one reason for supporting Sen. Clinton, well, then I'm guilty.

Same to you Martin, Clarksville, Tn.

Hillary Clinton began her political career as first lady of Arkansas. The people of Arkansas know her record far better than other politicians. Check the amount Arkansans have contributed to her campaign versus the amount given
former governor and Republican candidate Mike Huckabee for an idea of who ranks where.
She has been under the magnifying glass of Republicans and the media for some 35 years. All her enemies can do is rake the same coals over and over in hopes of reviving them.
An Arkansas Democrat

Female voters hopefully will vote for the best candidate, regardless of gender. We will have a female president someday. Perhaps 2009, perhaps later. Gender matters much less than the other qualities.

That "Edwards had his chance in 2004 and blew it" line is really, really boring. Seriously, is that the best the Hillraisers can come up with?

Andrew Jackson failed, then ran again and won. Same with Jefferson and Lincoln. AND FDR.

The failure of the Clintonites to understand US history isn't surprising, I suppose.

Where is her wedding band?

The REAL FACT about Hillary is that everytime she opens her mouth, she makes more enemies and loses more votes! Keep talking Hillary, you're losing ground every day. We don't want any more Clintons in the White House, plus you are not smart enough or strong enough or honest enough to be OUR President. Hanging on to 'Billy Boy' isn't going to help you. Anyone BUT Hillary in 2008!

Liz and Edwards are nobodies trying to be somebody by attacking everybody

John Edwards reckons the US political process is corrupt. Having been elected in that process and now running in that process again, John Edwards criticizes then endorses that process. Mr Edwards, the corruption is in the Constitution, in the Presidential veto and in the Senate Cloture rule. If you get elected President, you're not going to be able to change either, so you'll be a corrupt President. You are a lightweight Edwards. Clinton-Richardson 2008.

Edwards want to "serve as an advocate for the disenfranchised

yup soundz like communism to moi

Mrs. Edwards must realize that her husband is just not likely to win the Democratic nomination for president, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. All of us supporting the Democratic party must realize who our enemy really is - and it's not one onother, but the opposing party. I think it's time all the candidates realize this and quit furnishing fuel for the Republicans in the general election. For now, it looks as though that will be Hillary Clinton, and I say we should all get behind the front runner.

You know folks .. at this point in the game, I think the American people are tired of John and Elizabeth Edwards' negativity. The Edwards' campaign just never took off – call it bad strategy; inadequate campaign managers; bad timing – whatever. John Edwards has been stuck in 3rd place for so long, with NO traction whatever, that I doubt he has a hope of being President, even if he wins Iowa.

We need an experienced Democrat that already has a track record of working successfully with and making allies of our counterparts across the aisle to re-direct the course of our nation. Hillary is the least capable of crossing this divide. It's ashame Democrats are rolling over for her and CNN. We need to break free of the Bush and Clinton eras with a fresh, but seasoned politician. Democrats need to give Joe Biden another look. He is a leader that can smash any glass ceiling easily with our support. Now is the time for Democrats to consider the future of our party and country. Hillary is capable, but is she right for our nation? I think not.Think Democrats. Think. Time to stop being sheep.
Lisa M., Atlanta, GA.

Consider the statement "One of the reasons I won't vote for Hillary is because she is a woman." What would you have to say about that person? It is just as irrational and irresponsible as "One of the reasons I am voting for Hillary is because she is a woman."

This is about HOW the nation will be run, not which bathroom the president will use. Gender has nothing to do with it, except for people who want to make a big deal out of it.

I'm sick of hearing from you people about "$400 haircuts". How much do you think Hillary pays to have her hair done? These rich people go to a different class of hairstylists than the ordinary person. They don't pay $20 for a haircut – none of them do. Nick from "What Not to Wear" charges about $400 regularly, as does any upper echelon stylist who can. Get over it.

If that's the best you got on Edwards, he's a saint compared to Hillary, who can't give a clear answer on anything, says one thing, does another, voted for the war, then says she's against it, voted with Bush on Iran, took payoffs from healtchcare and insurance companies during the Clinton years, sold stays in the whitehouse, raided the whitehouse, took payoffs and "contributions" from the Chinese, and brought the #1 outsourcer of US jobs to India into New York.

Can you defend Hillary for all of that? I think not. And she most likely aid $400 or more the last time she had her hair done besides.

I have been a Democrat my entire life, so let's get that straight before I say what comes next:

John and Elizabeth Edwards are an embarrassment to the Democratic Party.
Elizabeth needs to disappear never to be heard from again, unless she can do so without sounding like a jealous woman.

And no Elizabeth, YOU don't get to instruct woman not to vote for Hillary. If your husband knew how to run a campaign, he would have made a serious outreach for the women's vote when he began to campaign in December. He blew it. what else is new? What has he ever won?

Go home.

Alexander;
No one should Vote based on gender or Race. Blacks nor females did not Vote for Carol Moseley Braun when she ran for President.
Most folks Democrat, Republican, Black, White etc. are more then ready for a Woman, African American etc.
BUT we want the best qualified one. To all women wait for the better choice female that will make much of the country proud. NOT have women look back and regret their vote as a total embarrassment.
Not totally bad persons, Hillary and Al Sharpton etc. Just should be groups first President. stuck with 4 years of right wing conspiracies excuses.

Viva la Hillary!! Do you know who Mrs. Edwards remind me of? Ann Coulter. I wouldn't be surprised if the both of them are in talking terms.
They are both sad woman with low self esteem that did not achieve all the goals they had in their lives. And because of that, the jealousy they have against Clinton is visible from the moon.
Plain and simple, Mrs. Edwards is just jealous of the next President of the United States.
Hillary has what it takes, experience, brains, a plan, respect, decency, passion, action.
I don't understand why this woman keeps opening her mouth.

Right On!
ANYONE BUT HILLARY IN 2008!

Re/Dave, NY....Think you are absolutely CORRECT about Edwards being the 'one' to bound ahead of the pack. Edwards speaks more sense than all the three combined. I don't rule him out either, for Edwards is Solid. He was completely out of place running with John Kerry. You can also bet that the Clinton Campaign 'planted the Boos he received recently while out on the campaign trail...obvious,IMO.' In addition, who wants a repeat of Bill Clinton in our White House after his lurid behavior and public testimony of it? NOT ME!

Headline should have read, "Edwards begs voters to pay attention."

It is disgraceful that Ms Edwards has sold out from raising gender issues to her husband's slim chance to the White House.
An outspoken woman for women's issues is now saying "gender issues dont' matter–really"!!

Face it MEN you are threatened by a strong WOMAN who is a frontrunner because she stands out among all the Republicans AND Democrats candidates.

Interesting how CNN stated the headline.

First of all why not say "Edwards's wife instead of candidate's wife. If it was Hillary or someone else, you wouldn't have left her name out.

Second, the headline suggests that this is about sex. That is inaccurate. It is about gender.

Wondering if Wolf Blitzer wrote this one or maybe some college intern.

What I'd like to know is who does she think she is to tell voters to do anything. Just because her fish mouth husband is trying to be the president. I am tired of all these simple people that are running, I'd feel alot better off having a king and queen. It works for England!

I keep thinking that Al Gore saying that the reason that he wasn’t running for President is because he has fallen out of love with politics might make him the most elect-able Democratic Presidential candidate. However, what John Edwards said in Thursday night’s debate is all I hoped for in a campaign by Al Gore. When Senator Edwards said, if I recall correctly, we don’t need a small group of corporate Democrats running things anymore than we need a big bunch of corporate Republican's running things.

He said, "The most important issue is she (Senator Clinton) says she will bring change to Washington, while she continues to defend a system that does not work, that is broken, that is rigged and is corrupted against the interest of most Americans and corrupted for a very small, very powerful, very well-financed group,"

While Hillary Clinton, then acknowledging Edward’s criticism as though the criticism belonged to her alone came back in the debate almost looking as though she was defending the whole party itself. She then replied to Mr. Edwards’s criticism: "I don't mind taking hits on my record, on issues," she said. "But when somebody starts throwing mud, at least we can hope that it's both accurate and not right out of the Republican playbook." However, make no war mistake about it, Mr. Edwards is doing a great job for the Democratic Party, win or lose. John Edward’s campaign is putting the pressure on Mrs. Clinton not to play politics similar to Republican Party politics at all if she doesn’t want her Democratic politics to be compared with the kind of politics of George Bush.

I just hope this little spat does not ruin the chances of a Hillary Clinton win making John Edwards U.S. Attorney General to take on certain big businesses, which is another thing that I could only hope for...

Dawn,

"And then, on top of that, in addition to it, we think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)"

Wake up. Yes, Hillary is a female; that is not a reason to vote for her. In games we take turns; in running a country we choose the best candidate. Hillary is not what this country needs.

ANYbody but Hillary in 2008

Dawn,
"It is absurd and insulting every time anybody suggests that the only reason Sen. Clinton's female supporters are voting for her is because she is a woman."

True. It is completely unfair. For my part I apologize.

"And then, on top of that, in addition to it, we think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)"

Wow. I guess you do have other reasons. Like your hero, you too can't stay with a single story. I guess it isn't your only reason, but this reason only makes sense if there were other women running and you could actually pick a woman candidate that is worth putting our future in. Thank you for clearing up this whole mess about why women (and men) are voting for her.

THIS woman definitely needs some rest and soul searching. Instead she is spending her remaining energy on superficial thing as presidential election. I do hope she recovers fully. But with all due respect, even if Johnny wins the white house, she may not be the one as first lady.

Take a break, Liz. Take care of yourself, take care of the kids. Let Johnny fight for his fight.

"It is absurd and insulting every time anybody suggests that the only reason Sen. Clinton's female supporters are voting for her is because she is a woman. Some women think she is a strong, competent leader who can run the country well (as do many men). And then, on top of that, in addition to it, we think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)"

Dawn, some men, too. Smart women never scared me. I think they're great. And so is my mom and my sisters, by the way. I can attest to the hard work, generosity, smart decision-making and kind-hearted approach to this freaky world that I see from them each day. I'm not voting for Hillary because she's a woman. I'm voting for her as a statement and a vote of confidence to all these women in my life.

If John was able to deliver his homestate of NC to Kerry-Edwards '04, we wouldn't be talking here right now, would we? And folks, this time around will be no difference! I'm disappointed some people were "deserpointed". LOL. Clinton haters just don't pass up a chance to vent venom no matter what the forum is. One even has the nerve to ask voters to wise up and not vote for her simply because she's a woman. Yet, he has a slogan that says, "anybody but Clinton". See, smart asses like this win no converts. I'll vote for HILLARY CLINTON just to spite the Clinton haters. So there, bite me.

We will need the two best minds in the world to pull us out of this mess we're in at present, and we don't need someone slinging welfare dollars out the window either. Hillary and co. will bring us through. Two for the price of one. I remember well, Two tanks of diesel and a 12 pack for 30 bucks. We just had to work a lot. Wake up America, throw the losers off the bus and put Hillary in the white house.

It is absurd and insulting every time anybody suggests that the only reason Sen. Clinton's female supporters are voting for her is because she is a woman. Some women think she is a strong, competent leader who can run the country well (as do many men). And then, on top of that, in addition to it, we think it's about time, America, whose population is half female, had a female president. (As do many men.)

On the money angle: Sen. Edwards doesn't take money from lobbyists, but he takes plenty of money from people holding high positions in corporations (including corporations that peddle health insurance.) In fact, one of his LARGEST sources of campaign donations tied to corporations is the very hedge fund in which Sen. Edwards has invested half of his fortune. Where he gets the nerve to imply that Sen. Clinton is corrupt, I do not know. When he complains about Sen. Clinton's campaign donations, he's really whining about her success, i.e., it's complete sour grapes.

Many things that have come from Mrs. Edwards mouth of late, have not helped her husband,in my opinion. To be honest, she's turned me completely off. There are two clear choices on the horizon for us to vote upon. Your choices will either be Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton or Senator Obama. My family lived well under the eight years of the Clinton administration. Under the Bush administration, companies were downsized and our life chanaged forever. Senator Obama has ideas but he's not ready yet. I'm voting for the candidate who held her ground and said, I voted for the war because of the intelligence I was given and I believed our President was telling the truth about weapons of mass destruction. Others jumped on the band wagon to say, if I had known the truth, my vote would have been different. At least Hillary has the guts to stand behind her decison, and in her place I would have done the same thing. That's leadership, that's a person who stands behind their vote, to do less shows the play of politics and Senator Obama is learning to play that game well for a man who wants to be different than everyone else.

Hillary is too devisive and does not stand for any of the values I believe in. If she is nominated, I will vote Republican this year.

Not Clinton.

Corporate control of Washington is having a devastating effect on our country now and especially in the future. This country cannot afford another corporate individual like George Bush, so what ever you do dont vote for Clinton!

I am deserpointed at CNN to host the worst presidential debate in american history only just to support clinton planting audience well I have stopped watching cnn.msnbc is the best news network.no matter what clinton network news does obama08 4sure.

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Okay, here is another phoney liberal talking about the RICH, and how the world would best benefit from economic equality. I don't think neither she nor her husband would like living small.

People EARN money from hard work, and Lenin's approach proved futile, didn't it?

Posted By KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT : November 18, 2007 10:38 am

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Hey ! Ambulance chasing is hard work Ask Edwards....

Although I don't like the Edwards sequel to the white house either, Clinton cracks me up running on this 'woman' thing and then says she's not playing the gender card but is playing the winning card. This whole 'glass ceiling' thing is all you hear Clinton squeal. I don't know why someone has not called her on this. Again, she;s having it both ways - saying she's not using the gender card yet saying us women need to break the glass ceiling and also doing everything to appeal to the women vote. I don't think Hillary's running for president for the people I think she's running for Hillary, for the 'power' and that's it.

Alena,

You don't get it. There is nothing wrong with being rich. I am a Democrat and would love to be rich someday as well. It's what you do once you become rich that defines the type of person you are. If you are rich and still advocate for the poor, that is actually very admirable, not hypocritical like you say.

Ooops. Wrong thread on that last post.

If I'm going to vote for a woman, I'd vote for someone that has all the makings for a truly great President. I want someone who is going to be a credit to our gender. After I saw the debate last night, I was dissappointed by some of her views on things.

Idealism and unreality–while an admirable quality in individuals is not what we need at this time in history for our next President. This individual will need to immediately step in as Commander-In-Chief of a nation embroiled in a crazy, costly, unpopular war. He/she will inherit an economy perched on the brink of serious fiscal instability. This person will be tasked tackling important and neglected domestic issues that are gradually rising to crisis in some areas. The next President will not have the pleasure of drawing lines in the sand, but must toughly negotiate and create aggressive domestic and foreign policy strategies–literally on the run. The only candidate who seems to understand these "real-world" and intensely important responsibilities is Hillary Clinton. I'm sorry Ma'am, but John has not done one thing to convince this American he has the agenda, national and global support, or the ability to instill optimism and confidence, and unified purpose back into the White House.

Isn't it hypocritical that Elizabeth Edwards leaves her exhorbitant multi-million dollar mansion in an exclusive area of NC to go and talk about advocating for the poor? And she wants to talk about the money ceiling? This sort of talk is patronizing and condescending to Americans at best. Hopefully Americans will vote for candidates who walk their talk.

Physical attributes do not change politics. Whats inside the person is what is what changes politics. We already know what is inside Hillary. The same old stuff we've seen for decades. Been there, done that, Hillary.

A quick look at the two candidates backgrounds will tell you who is who. Edwards is a self-made candidate, whereas Hillary Clinton is riding on her husband's name recognition and dubious presidency. Hillary Clinton is not "leagues ahead" of anybody in terms of qualification. She is a straw candidate who is propped up by monied interests and is for certain beholden to them. It's time for the voters to wake up and examine the candidates' records and what they are proposing to see for themselves who represents voters' interests. There is a media bias against Edwards because he represents average voters and not big corporations like Hillary Clinton. I hope the voters will show who is holding the cards in the upcoming elections.

What I fail to see anyone asking is why should I vote for Clinton when she herself says she's been tring for 35 years to get/fix health care. 35 years! and she still cant do it. Lets put in someone who can.

It doesn't matter that Clinton is a woman. What everyone should realize, but not many seem to grasp, is that she is completely unlikeable to a large segment of the voters in America. Many of those voters who dislike Clinton are independents or Republicans who are just as sick of the current leadership as Democrats. If you put Clinton up against Giuliani, she will not get the majority of those centrist votes that carried her husband into the White House. Giuliani will.

Ms. Edwards: If you really want to show your husband's strength to the nation, let him show it on his own. Don't try to flaunt yourself for his vote.

It is the same for Fmr. President Clinton. I admire that you support your wife, but do try to keep yourself out of the political scene.

The first lady [Or the first man if Clinton wins the seat] is a position of honor and respect, but not of political persuasion. To all candidate spouses: Support, but don't preach. The only thing accomplished by doing so is another wound for your candidates to attack.

Edward has come down to where he has proved he has nothing more to say he can do, instead he and his ttack dog Lizzy have now focused on being cry baby to say what Clinton did, what she didn't, what she said and all, if you feel you are better, focus on your points, Your team and you could be the reason for Democratic loss in this election; please think before you get jealous of winners and say what you have in your mind, and what comes out of your mouth; if you think you are a man, prove it; don't just be crying; Have you noticed, none of your speech is purified without mention of Clindon's bad picture painted by you? Grow up man, rememeber what Kusinich said to you at debate? so Back off...

1.Hillary’s horrible performance in the Philly Debate MSNBC had nothing to do with “Glass Ceilings” and was so bad that even the Media could not spin her out of it.

2.Hillary made it even worst when she claimed don’t pile on me I am a Women after that debate.

3.For the Voters she continues to slide downward. The Media’s attempt to use the CNN Debate to save her is NOT going to work. That only gave the Media an excuse to SAY Hillary’s poll numbers are stable now. That Philly Debate was a turning point and was a critical mistake for Hillary. That she followed with a string of response mistakes the week that followed it.

4.Now Look for Hillary to gat into panic and pull out all the stop, dirty tricks etc. to attack directly or indirectly through people such as Bob Novak.

5. This will back fire on her because it plays into and reminds Voters how devicive she can be.

I have heard many uninformed voters indicting a desire to vote for Clinton because it is time for a woman to have a turn. Wise up people. The worst thing that can happen for women in politics is for the wrong woman to be elected. Then any future candidate will have to overcome the record of her predecesor.

Hillary is the wrong person to put in the White House. American needs someone we can trust.

Anybody but Hillary in 2008

Mrs Edwards is a very smart and decorous person. I have great respect for her and in her efforts to assist John in his Presidential bid. She is quite courageous fighting for John while also battling her cancer. Kudos to you Mrs Edwards. However I feel that John's failed bid for the nomination in '04 and Kerry's hasty concession soured things a little for him.

She's right. We are not monolithic and not every democrat and not every woman love her highness, Hillary.
As a matter of fact, whether the Clinton News Network likes it or not, half the party will not vote for Hillary for any reason.
And we are working hard to see she is defeated.
And, I must say, that this morning on Late Edition, the little farce trying to excuse this network and Hillary's behavior at the debate the other night won't fly. You were wrong. period.
I am sticking with Obama, with Edwards as my second choice.
Hillary is not even on my list of people I'd vote for.

It's not that I don't want a woman as president, it's that I don't want Bill Clinton's wife as president. The Clintons were not good for America, so I'd hate to see us make that mistake again. The Democratic Party has better options this time around.

Edwards is being increasingly left out of the race. The <a href="">latest general election poll (released yesterday from Wisconsin) did not include Edwards but had good news for Obama and Clinton.

I'm so tired of having to listen to her. I really don't know who she thinks she is.

How can Mrs. Edwards and her husband believe that their fight against the money ceiling washes with regular Americans given his $400 hairstyling and their overall life style far removed from most voters?
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If anyone thinks that Hillary Clinton would be better for women than John Edwards just because she's a woman, then they are as mistaken as any black people who thought that Clarence Thomas would be better for them than some other judges on the Supreme Court, just because he's black.

The issue, as Elizabeth Edwards alluded to is what the candidates believe. Their ideology.

Hillary Clinton was a corporate lawyer. She followed the money, and chose to represent corporations in court instead of regular Americans. Whether her client won or lost, she was well-compensated.

John Edwards was a personal injury lawyer. If he lost, he didn't get jacksquat. He chose to represent regular Americans who had been injured by malpractice or some irresponsible corporation.

Whether you are XX or XY is irrelevant. If the only thing that people can see is male or female, then they are not wise voters.

Don’t expect anyone to provide for you. The government is not your mother. The wealthy are not your keepers. You are responsible for yourself. Don’t think that any president can fix your problems. No one is stopping you from providing for yourself. You are free! Use your liberties! If you don’t, they will be stripped from you.

No one should vote for a candidate soley on the basis of their race or gender- but in a case where we have qualified capable candidates it should certainly be viewed as a plus that they represent groups who have been historically unrepresented in our country's highest offices. The choice for who to support for president is a deeply subjective and personal one. No candidate can be considered objectively better than another. Considering that it is vitally important that we attempt to control for the influences of any bias that may exist. The existence of zero women or African Americans presidents in our history is strong evidence of the fact that the process unfairly favors white males. The only way to overcome that bias is to finally elect a woman or African American. If not Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, then who? What rising stars are there on the horizon? If we miss out on this historic opportunity then in all likelyhood most of us will never see a woman or African American president in our lifetime. I am glad Mrs. Edwards and Ms. Michelman are so comfortable with that idea. Women have only overcome obstacles and made progress when they stood together united and strong. Someone will always be around to give a reason why we should oppose or delay progress. That is how the system perpetuates itself. I only hope the American people have the courage and the strenght to take this historic opportunity to change that system forever.

Maybe Liz can find a glass mirror? She takes bad pics.

Okay, here is another phoney liberal talking about the RICH, and how the world would best benefit from economic equality. I don't think neither she nor her husband would like living small.

People EARN money from hard work, and Lenin's approach proved futile, didn't it?

Now, I agree, the Lobbyist Agendas are really fricking it all up here, and I bet, if Mr Edwards was getting a bit more money from them, he wouldn't be complaining about who is getting money from them. But she is arguing "against the influence of money in politics..." and yet her husband's political machine depends on such moneys doesn't it? Yes, I believe there are no better people in this world to manage money than women, but let's not vote on Gender, nor Hidden Agenda, let us vote on haircuts and slogans that mask the logic and reasoning of experience.

kthxbai

This a good opportunity to ask what is the diffeence for any of theses spouses speaking up for their husbands and Bill stumping for Hillary. I've seen several comments that say its against some rule/law for Bill to campaign for Hillary because he's an ex-president. Is there any truth/basis to this claim.

“The New York senator has campaigned aggressively to win support among women voters and has called her presidential bid an opportunity to break the ultimate glass ceiling.
"America is ready for change ¬ and I believe women will lead that change," Clinton says on her website. "It¹s up to us to do our part to take back the White House and change this country, and that¹s exactly what we¹re going to do. I say this nation can shatter the highest glass ceiling ¬ because that¹s what Americans have been doing for over 200 years."”

In the debate Clinton denies playing the gender card, but is instead playing the winning card. She is using women blindly to support herself. She should be absolutely ashamed of herself, but then shame doesn’t have a hold in the Clinton household. I have nothing against a woman president, but she should be the kind of person we want as president not the same old corrupt politician that we have had in the past decades. Clinton does not represent change, just more of the same old. Finally the Clinton News Network is giving a little bit of time to another candidate’s workings, but it still leads back to Clinton even though”… Elizabeth did not mention the New York Senator by name, her words spoke to her husband's campaign efforts to woo women voters…”

Here we are again! Edwards unleashes his attack dog, Lizzy, who is ill, and is supposed to take care of her own health. Edwards had his chances twice in 2004, and the voters rejected it.

Okay, here is another phoney liberal talking about the RICH, and how the world would best benefit from economic equality. I don't think neither she nor her husband would like living small.

People EARN money from hard work, and Lenin's approach proved futile, didn't it?

One more thing...Edwards says that voters need to look past the "glass ceiling." However, she goes on to say that Americans should vote for her husband to break "the glass ceiling of money."

A little more consistency please, Mrs. Edwards.

I know you are trying to make a point, but try not to contradict yourself.

-Eric Palmieri

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I agree. Voting for a candidate based on gender or race is irresponsible. That being said, voters shouldn't vote for John Edwards simply because his wife says to.

Voters need to make up their own minds.

-Eric Palmieri

http://www.ericpalmieri.com

Nice reframe Elizabeth, but I'm not buying it. The glass ceiling for women and African Americans is not the same as what you're saying. She and her husband are panicking because they're afraid the U.S. is ONLY attracted to Hillary and Obama because we finally have a viable female and African American candidate for president. While I think Edwards is a better candidate than Obama, Clinton is leagues ahead of both and this has nothing to do with her being female. Elizabeth is trying to make everyone reconsider their excitement about having a woman or African American president in the context of "but who's better overall regardless of whose 'time' it is" (she's used the word "time" many times, incidentally). Problem is Hillary IS the best candidate.

y'know, reading things like this make me think edwards is the real sleeper candidate in this election – he might just come out from behind everyone and take the nomination after all.