Comments on: Ex-aide: Bush, Cheney involved in misleading media about Plame leak http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Faye http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-180069 Faye Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:58:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-180069 How many Iraqi and Afgahnistan children have died today because of OIL. That is the real under"lying" issue... excuse the pun. How many Iraqi and Afgahnistan children have died today because of OIL. That is the real under"lying" issue... excuse the pun.

]]> By: john riggs eagle pass texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152753 john riggs eagle pass texas Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152753 If I were working at a job and was no longer wanted and only created problems I would resign,but I am not sold out to looters and foreign interests. If I were working at a job and was no longer wanted and only created problems I would resign,but I am not sold out to looters and foreign interests.

]]> By: owqo ao http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152743 owqo ao Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:44:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152743 Of course we know that the Bush administration is a bunch of scumbags. They actually remind me of the mafia. Cheney is one scary, albeit totally ridiculous, character. Who the hell does he think he is? He's Haliburton's boy wonder, that's who he is. Prick! Of course we know that the Bush administration is a bunch of scumbags. They actually remind me of the mafia.
Cheney is one scary, albeit totally ridiculous, character. Who the hell does he think he is? He's Haliburton's boy wonder, that's who he is. Prick!

]]> By: r http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152731 r Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:45:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152731 Alright lets hear it Demodumbies,,,First of all Mrs.Plame was not a undercover agent,,get your facts str8,,,second she and her worthless husband had their own agenda and was trying to discredit the administration and tried to play hard ball and got burned. Lets not forget your last president in office not only lied under oath but sold secrets to the chinese and murdered over a dozen of people that got in their way….I am glad Valerie Plame was outed , The wilsons played hard ball and got burned….LOSERS Posted By Ryan Indianapolis : November 21, 2007 2:12 pm Ooh, sorry Ryan, unfortunately you violated the gross stupidity clause in the voting rights act so you can no longer cast your ballot. Alright lets hear it Demodumbies,,,First of all Mrs.Plame was not a undercover agent,,get your facts str8,,,second she and her worthless husband had their own agenda and was trying to discredit the administration and tried to play hard ball and got burned. Lets not forget your last president in office not only lied under oath but sold secrets to the chinese and murdered over a dozen of people that got in their way….I am glad Valerie Plame was outed , The wilsons played hard ball and got burned….LOSERS

Posted By Ryan Indianapolis : November 21, 2007 2:12 pm

Ooh, sorry Ryan, unfortunately you violated the gross stupidity clause in the voting rights act so you can no longer cast your ballot.

]]> By: Doremus, VT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152673 Doremus, VT Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:29:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152673 Williamsburg, VA: Nationalism, belief and rationale truth are not the same thing and agreement (or not) on the issue is irrelevant. A proper conscience would understand this. You are clearly a blind loyalist and demonstrate the frustration this must cause. Williamsburg, VA:
Nationalism, belief and rationale truth are not the same thing and agreement (or not) on the issue is irrelevant. A proper conscience would understand this. You are clearly a blind loyalist and demonstrate the frustration this must cause.

]]> By: Frank tulsa, ok http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152633 Frank tulsa, ok Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:22:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152633 Ryan, only the Dems are traitors huh? Yeah it's Plame's fault that she was outed and YOU'RE WRONG about her CIA status as you tell us to get our facts straight. You're a walking bag of wind. Go back to your hole in Indy Ryan, only the Dems are traitors huh? Yeah it's Plame's fault that she was outed and YOU'RE WRONG about her CIA status as you tell us to get our facts straight. You're a walking bag of wind.

Go back to your hole in Indy

]]> By: Rich Centerville, OH http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152627 Rich Centerville, OH Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:16:00 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152627 Ryan you're the consumate hypocrite. If this was a Dem Press Secry who was talking about a Dem Administration you would be using your worn out 'TREASON THING' taking us back to the Civil War.................AGIAN. Basically Ryan, you contradict yourself so often you should stop being an embarrassment. Ryan you're the consumate hypocrite. If this was a Dem Press Secry who was talking about a Dem Administration you would be using your worn out 'TREASON THING' taking us back to the Civil War.................AGIAN.

Basically Ryan, you contradict yourself so often you should stop being an embarrassment.

]]> By: Dave, NY, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152361 Dave, NY, NY Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:50:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152361 The leaking of this piece of a book that is being released next year shows that Mr McClellan like many of those in Washington pray at the alter of the big buck. If this had been released when there was no book in the works it might have been believable but the timing of it's release brings his integrity into question.... The leaking of this piece of a book that is being released next year shows that Mr McClellan like many of those in Washington pray at the alter of the big buck. If this had been released when there was no book in the works it might have been believable but the timing of it's release brings his integrity into question....

]]> By: Ryan Indianapolis http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152179 Ryan Indianapolis Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:12:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152179 Alright lets hear it Demodumbies,,,First of all Mrs.Plame was not a undercover agent,,get your facts str8,,,second she and her worthless husband had their own agenda and was trying to discredit the administration and tried to play hard ball and got burned. Lets not forget your last president in office not only lied under oath but sold secrets to the chinese and murdered over a dozen of people that got in their way....I am glad Valerie Plame was outed , The wilsons played hard ball and got burned....LOSERS Alright lets hear it Demodumbies,,,First of all Mrs.Plame was not a undercover agent,,get your facts str8,,,second she and her worthless husband had their own agenda and was trying to discredit the administration and tried to play hard ball and got burned. Lets not forget your last president in office not only lied under oath but sold secrets to the chinese and murdered over a dozen of people that got in their way....I am glad Valerie Plame was outed , The wilsons played hard ball and got burned....LOSERS

]]> By: Bill W, Coatesville, PA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152162 Bill W, Coatesville, PA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:03:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152162 Can Bush pardon himself? Can Bush pardon himself?

]]> By: Bubba, Swainsboro GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152038 Bubba, Swainsboro GA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:27:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-152038 Ryan, Christopher; When someone is revealed as a secret agent, what they did in the past becomes important. Who did she have lunch with when her husband was in meetings? Who has been locked up or killed because of this information? As a patriot, I'd like to see the people who did this punished. Ryan, Christopher;

When someone is revealed as a secret agent, what they did in the past becomes important. Who did she have lunch with when her husband was in meetings? Who has been locked up or killed because of this information?

As a patriot, I'd like to see the people who did this punished.

]]> By: Mike, Seattle http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151968 Mike, Seattle Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:31:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151968 To Robert in Pacific Grove. I wish I could share your opinion about dooming the GOP in '08 but the little red unthinking lemmings and the cows in the Republican Congress will probably do just fine. We deserve the government we get. To Robert in Pacific Grove. I wish I could share your opinion about dooming the GOP in '08 but the little red unthinking lemmings and the cows in the Republican Congress will probably do just fine. We deserve the government we get.

]]> By: Christopher. Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151900 Christopher. Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:35:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151900 Valerie Plame, the COVERT agent who was on the cover of a popular magazine. How covert! She outed herself and chose her husband for a "fact finding" mission. She is as believable as Hillary Clinton's denying her knowledge of Bill's philandering. Posted By Heidi, Bloomfield, CT : November 20, 2007 7:43 pm You actually found time to turn off Faux Noise to barf up this oldie but goodie talking point. For the last time. Valarie appeared in print AFTER she was outed. It has been confirmed by the CIA and the Pentagon that she had nothing to do with her husband's assignment. In fact the White House recommended he go based on his background and contacts. They didn't like the truth so they threw his wife under the bus and falsified the story. Please people research your information before you spout off Rupert's BS! Valerie Plame, the COVERT agent who was on the cover of a popular magazine. How covert! She outed herself and chose her husband for a "fact finding" mission. She is as believable as Hillary Clinton's denying her knowledge of Bill's philandering.
Posted By Heidi, Bloomfield, CT : November 20, 2007 7:43 pm

You actually found time to turn off Faux Noise to barf up this oldie but goodie talking point. For the last time. Valarie appeared in print AFTER she was outed. It has been confirmed by the CIA and the Pentagon that she had nothing to do with her husband's assignment. In fact the White House recommended he go based on his background and contacts. They didn't like the truth so they threw his wife under the bus and falsified the story. Please people research your information before you spout off Rupert's BS!

]]> By: fedupwithourgov't http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151899 fedupwithourgov't Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:33:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151899 IMPEACH and haul them all away in handcuffs!! They shouldn't get away with murder...literally!! IMPEACH and haul them all away in handcuffs!!

They shouldn't get away with murder...literally!!

]]> By: AN, Arlington, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151898 AN, Arlington, VA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:32:53 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151898 Christopher, Madison, WI...on one point I agree with you: "Matters of national security should be taken seriously and not brushed under the rug. " For this reason, the matter concerning Sandy Berger should also not be swept under the rug. Christopher, Madison, WI...on one point I agree with you:

"Matters of national security should be taken seriously and not brushed under the rug. "

For this reason, the matter concerning Sandy Berger should also not be swept under the rug.

]]> By: Christopher, Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151890 Christopher, Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:28:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151890 i can't stand bush, but 'butterball' mcclellan is not to be believed. PLUS valerir was not an operative, her letter recommending the dansy joe wilson IV states her position as ANAL-yst. Posted By deroy, WPB, FL : November 20, 2007 6:37 pm From your grammar and spelling I'm going to guess that you are 5 years old and excuse you from this adult discussion. BTW... the CIA and the Pentagon did confirm her undercover status. Stop watching Faux Noise! i can't stand bush, but 'butterball' mcclellan is not to be believed.

PLUS valerir was not an operative, her letter recommending the dansy joe wilson IV states her position as ANAL-yst.
Posted By deroy, WPB, FL : November 20, 2007 6:37 pm

From your grammar and spelling I'm going to guess that you are 5 years old and excuse you from this adult discussion.
BTW... the CIA and the Pentagon did confirm her undercover status. Stop watching Faux Noise!

]]> By: scott, manchester NH http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151886 scott, manchester NH Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:23:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151886 i read a few comments arguing that Bush isnt running for prez, so who cares about this stuff....isnt it the typical "ignore the real issue" thing to do to for some of those people? isnt it about THE most obvious point that when we hear certain truths come out like this, its entirely about the observation that MANY people simply dont have the ability to read human behavior and be able to figure out WHO the SLIMY ones are... THIS...is about republicans sticking by their pathetic loser leaders,no matter what kind of information is revealed (from people who know) about the facts... Its NOT the slimy republican leaders' faults that the ones who voted for them have have horrible judgment... i read a few comments arguing that Bush isnt running for prez, so who cares about this stuff....isnt it the typical "ignore the real issue" thing to do to for some of those people?
isnt it about THE most obvious point that when we hear certain truths come out like this, its entirely about the observation that MANY people simply dont have the ability to read human behavior and be able to figure out WHO the SLIMY ones are...
THIS...is about republicans sticking by their pathetic loser leaders,no matter what kind of information is revealed (from people who know) about the facts...
Its NOT the slimy republican leaders' faults that the ones who voted for them have have horrible judgment...

]]> By: Christopher, Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151884 Christopher, Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:22:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151884 Some people will say anything just to sell a book… Posted By John Q. Public, USA : November 20, 2007 5:49 pm True but the story isn't about ManCoutler, Bill O'Rielly, Hannity, Robert Novak or Chris Matthews. Some people will say anything just to sell a book…
Posted By John Q. Public, USA : November 20, 2007 5:49 pm

True but the story isn't about ManCoutler, Bill O'Rielly, Hannity, Robert Novak or Chris Matthews.

]]> By: Christopher, Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151881 Christopher, Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:19:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151881 WHo cares, Valeria Plame was not even undercover at the time and her and her husband had their own political agenda. Posted By Ryan Indianapolis : November 20, 2007 5:36 pm Wrong, wrong, wrong. If you would turn off Faux Noise you would had heard that the CIA and the Pentagon confirmed her status of undercover. For the record slick...once you are undercover you are always undercover until you retire or die. Indiana what a great place to waste away and drift off into the land of make-believe. Isn't it a little late in the game to continue to try and convince yourself and anyone around you that the aforementioned talking points are old and have been proven untrue? Come into the light of truth. WHo cares, Valeria Plame was not even undercover at the time and her and her husband had their own political agenda.
Posted By Ryan Indianapolis : November 20, 2007 5:36 pm

Wrong, wrong, wrong. If you would turn off Faux Noise you would had heard that the CIA and the Pentagon confirmed her status of undercover. For the record slick...once you are undercover you are always undercover until you retire or die.
Indiana what a great place to waste away and drift off into the land of make-believe. Isn't it a little late in the game to continue to try and convince yourself and anyone around you that the aforementioned talking points are old and have been proven untrue? Come into the light of truth.

]]> By: B http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151878 B Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:18:16 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151878 Bush and Cheney.....lied?!?!?! Impossible!!!! They found the WMD's, didn't they?! They nabbed OBL, right?! TIME FOR THE NEOCLOWNS TO WAKE UP!!! Bush and Cheney.....lied?!?!?!

Impossible!!!!

They found the WMD's, didn't they?!

They nabbed OBL, right?!

TIME FOR THE NEOCLOWNS TO WAKE UP!!!

]]> By: Williamsburg, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151873 Williamsburg, VA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:14:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151873 Doremus: Let me understand this...so if someone doesn't agree with your views they are devoid of "...character and conscience..." and an "...irritation...". Hmmm, how democratic of you. I think your intolerance for those in disagreement with you reeks more of facism. You did, however, make my morning...thanks for the chuckle...really!! Doremus: Let me understand this...so if someone doesn't agree with your views they are devoid of "...character and conscience..." and an "...irritation...". Hmmm, how democratic of you. I think your intolerance for those in disagreement with you reeks more of facism. You did, however, make my morning...thanks for the chuckle...really!!

]]> By: Christopher, Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151872 Christopher, Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:14:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151872 There's usually a "forthcoming book" that prompts "ex-White house employees" to say something harmful. GEORGE BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR President ! Who the heck cares about what some out-of-work politico thinks?! Posted By beverly b., arlington, va. : November 20, 2007 5:21 pm Some us do care about crimes against the nation and any information leading to the arrest and conviction and war criminals should be taken seriously. Aren't you missing a rerun of Oprah or the Price is Right? God you southern folks and you Faux Noise talking points truly are annoying. There's usually a "forthcoming book" that prompts "ex-White house employees" to say something harmful.

GEORGE BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR President ! Who the heck cares about what some out-of-work politico thinks?!
Posted By beverly b., arlington, va. : November 20, 2007 5:21 pm

Some us do care about crimes against the nation and any information leading to the arrest and conviction and war criminals should be taken seriously. Aren't you missing a rerun of Oprah or the Price is Right? God you southern folks and you Faux Noise talking points truly are annoying.

]]> By: Christopher, Madison, WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151868 Christopher, Madison, WI Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:10:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151868 This is stupid. Armitage has already admitted he was the leak. This is another person like Richard Clark trying to sell a book. McClellan is just mad because he was treated like crap by everyone in the press room. I'm sure the press will just love him now. And even if it was true, Plame and Wilson committed treason, they lied, the broke their own cover, Wilson revealed secrets in a newspaper, Plame revealed secrets to Wilson which he inadvertently blabbed during Senate investigations. Oh, and by the by, a Democrat investigated it all and came to the conclusion no law was broken over the leak other than obstruction of justice. Whooptee freaking doo! This story is a loser and the Clinton News Network would make better use of their energy working on other stuff that actually might stick. Posted By Neill C., Montgomery, Alabama : November 20, 2007 5:13 pm Wow Faux Noise talking points at work here. Where to start...well Valarie and her husband revealed no secrets and only spoke about this matter after she was outed by this crooked administration. Which Democrat investigated this..oh you mean Fitzpatrick? Holy crap he is actually a Republican appointed by Bush himself. Would you like to add Faux Noise and MSNBC to then "Clinton News Network" as they are reporting on this as well? Matters of national security should be taken seriously and not brushed under the rug. This was a treasonous action all in the effort to cover up lies to get us into Iraq! If you believe otherwise then you sir are a moron! This is stupid. Armitage has already admitted he was the leak.

This is another person like Richard Clark trying to sell a book. McClellan is just mad because he was treated like crap by everyone in the press room. I'm sure the press will just love him now.

And even if it was true, Plame and Wilson committed treason, they lied, the broke their own cover, Wilson revealed secrets in a newspaper, Plame revealed secrets to Wilson which he inadvertently blabbed during Senate investigations.

Oh, and by the by, a Democrat investigated it all and came to the conclusion no law was broken over the leak other than obstruction of justice. Whooptee freaking doo!

This story is a loser and the Clinton News Network would make better use of their energy working on other stuff that actually might stick.
Posted By Neill C., Montgomery, Alabama : November 20, 2007 5:13 pm

Wow Faux Noise talking points at work here. Where to start...well Valarie and her husband revealed no secrets and only spoke about this matter after she was outed by this crooked administration. Which Democrat investigated this..oh you mean Fitzpatrick? Holy crap he is actually a Republican appointed by Bush himself. Would you like to add Faux Noise and MSNBC to then "Clinton News Network" as they are reporting on this as well? Matters of national security should be taken seriously and not brushed under the rug. This was a treasonous action all in the effort to cover up lies to get us into Iraq! If you believe otherwise then you sir are a moron!

]]> By: Impeach Them from Illinois http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151855 Impeach Them from Illinois Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:59:53 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151855 The American people deserve the truth. The bush Administration has always been a lie. This incompetent president thinks he can rape a nation and then claim innocence, and HE IS ACUALLY GETTING AWAY WITH IT. The Democratic Congress and the American People need to step up and investigate and vote to impeach bush and cheney. Sure, Bill Clinton made a personal misjudgement about lewenski (but nobody blames HER for HER PART in going there)----but THIS bush Administration has secretly skirted criminal actions under political and the public's radar for one too many times-----it's past time that the American people and Congress just keep accepting this.....demand a BI-PARTISAN inquiry into the Administration's actions and decisions over the past 7 years before scandal REALLY blows into a National and International embarrassment. Our global National credibility has suffered enough, don't you think? These continuing lies and cover-ups need to stop. The American people deserve the truth. The bush Administration has always been a lie. This incompetent president thinks he can rape a nation and then claim innocence, and HE IS ACUALLY GETTING AWAY WITH IT. The Democratic Congress and the American People need to step up and investigate and vote to impeach bush and cheney. Sure, Bill Clinton made a personal misjudgement about lewenski (but nobody blames HER for HER PART in going there)--but THIS bush Administration has secretly skirted criminal actions under political and the public's radar for one too many times-–it's past time that the American people and Congress just keep accepting this.....demand a BI-PARTISAN inquiry into the Administration's actions and decisions over the past 7 years before scandal REALLY blows into a National and International embarrassment. Our global National credibility has suffered enough, don't you think? These continuing lies and cover-ups need to stop.

]]> By: Doremus, VT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151822 Doremus, VT Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:22:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151822 Deception unravels into truth spread unevenly. Blind trust and belief in high authority is a serious failure of character and conscience visible to all that know truth. The sad truth is that the power-mad, warmongering deceivers and dividers at the seat of US government continue to hold a spell over a third of the population. The GOOD NEWS is that a third of the population is less than expected if one considers the prevalence of coherent, educated reasoning throughout the general population. In spite of the irritation incited by the perpetual “third,” we should be rejoicing the upcoming transition to a more enlightened and hopefully healing leadership. Deception unravels into truth spread unevenly.

Blind trust and belief in high authority is a serious failure of character and conscience visible to all that know truth.

The sad truth is that the power-mad, warmongering deceivers and dividers at the seat of US government continue to hold a spell over a third of the population.

The GOOD NEWS is that a third of the population is less than expected if one considers the prevalence of coherent, educated reasoning throughout the general population. In spite of the irritation incited by the perpetual “third,” we should be rejoicing the upcoming transition to a more enlightened and hopefully healing leadership.

]]> By: LA, Newport News, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151818 LA, Newport News, VA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:19:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151818 If McClellan has the goods on Bush (and the proof), why didn't he come forward with it when special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, was investigating? He didn't...so what's his motive now...to sell his book? It doesn't make sense. If McClellan has the goods on Bush (and the proof), why didn't he come forward with it when special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, was investigating? He didn't...so what's his motive now...to sell his book? It doesn't make sense.

]]> By: Chris J, Palm Bay, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151803 Chris J, Palm Bay, FL Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:01:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151803 I'd like to sell a book, but how do I go about it? I know! Since books that trash Bush sell, I'll trash Bush! IF it happened as he claims, why did he not speak up then? Why did he remain in an administration that would ask him to lie? As for the McClellan supporters out there...it wasn't too long ago that he was part of the most dishonest, corrupt administration in history, as you claim. However, now that he trashes the administration you claim he is credible? Give me a break! Is consistency too much to expect from you? I'd like to sell a book, but how do I go about it? I know! Since books that trash Bush sell, I'll trash Bush!

IF it happened as he claims, why did he not speak up then? Why did he remain in an administration that would ask him to lie? As for the McClellan supporters out there...it wasn't too long ago that he was part of the most dishonest, corrupt administration in history, as you claim. However, now that he trashes the administration you claim he is credible? Give me a break! Is consistency too much to expect from you?

]]> By: Rodney Dallas TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151800 Rodney Dallas TX Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:58:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151800 Obviously, there must be some truth to the fact or McClellan would not be allowed to put it in a book. Far too many lawsuits could be filed for slander. There must be some proof to make the statement a fact before it can be published. McClellen knows this and I'm quite sure the publisher knows this or they wouldn't be willing to go against the United States Government. Obviously, McClellen (and his attorney) feel they have strong enough evidence to support their claims. Obviously, there must be some truth to the fact or McClellan would not be allowed to put it in a book. Far too many lawsuits could be filed for slander. There must be some proof to make the statement a fact before it can be published. McClellen knows this and I'm quite sure the publisher knows this or they wouldn't be willing to go against the United States Government. Obviously, McClellen (and his attorney) feel they have strong enough evidence to support their claims.

]]> By: ED winter park fl http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151795 ED winter park fl Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:52:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151795 What would you expect from the most disgracesful, dishonorable ,deceitful corrupt administration this country has EVER had. A once honorable, highly respected and idol of the worlds people [is after seven years] become the most despised country in the world.As a 78 yr old citizen of this once proud country i have lived and fought for it through a good many admins but this one is our achilles heel. What would you expect from the most disgracesful, dishonorable ,deceitful corrupt administration this country has EVER had. A once honorable, highly respected and idol of the worlds people [is after seven years] become the most despised country in the world.As a 78 yr old citizen of this once proud country i have lived and fought for it through a good many admins but this one is our achilles heel.

]]> By: BRIAN FROM GREEN COVE SPRINGS FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151791 BRIAN FROM GREEN COVE SPRINGS FL Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:49:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151791 IMPEACH THEM NOW! I BEVIEVE THE PUNISHMENT FOR TREASON IS STILL PUBLIC HANGING IMPEACH THEM NOW! I BEVIEVE THE PUNISHMENT FOR TREASON IS STILL PUBLIC HANGING

]]> By: Bubba, Swainsboro GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151775 Bubba, Swainsboro GA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:31:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151775 So, are we to believe that McClellan's telling the truth NOW? He said he was truthful back then. Should we wait for the next book "The Story BEHIND What Really Happened?" Someone's trying to get right with God. So, are we to believe that McClellan's telling the truth NOW? He said he was truthful back then. Should we wait for the next book "The Story BEHIND What Really Happened?"

Someone's trying to get right with God.

]]> By: Steve, Miami, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151774 Steve, Miami, FL Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:30:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151774 I think most of America if not the world could of told us this President is a liar and a criminal as well. I love how the current White House spokesman Scott Stanzel says, ""The president has not misled his spokespeople, nor would he." Why did any one bother to ask Stanzel for a response to this? What did you expect him to say, that yes, the President does mislead everyone, including me as his current spokesperson. Bush and many in his administration really need to be impeached and jailed for crimes against our constitution. I think most of America if not the world could of told us this President is a liar and a criminal as well.

I love how the current White House spokesman Scott Stanzel says, ""The president has not misled his spokespeople, nor would he." Why did any one bother to ask Stanzel for a response to this? What did you expect him to say, that yes, the President does mislead everyone, including me as his current spokesperson.

Bush and many in his administration really need to be impeached and jailed for crimes against our constitution.

]]> By: Andre' J. Perrin Richardson,TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151767 Andre' J. Perrin Richardson,TX Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:22:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151767 This comes as no surprise. The majority of American's already know that the Bush administration will go down in history as one of the most corrupt administrations in American history. It is a sorry state of affairs when we have leaders who cannot be trusted. May God save their soul! This comes as no surprise. The majority of American's already know that the Bush administration will go down in history as one of the most corrupt administrations in American history.

It is a sorry state of affairs when we have leaders who cannot be trusted.

May God save their soul!

]]> By: Art S. Syracuse, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151766 Art S. Syracuse, NY Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:22:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151766 Who, among those of you who are reading this, with a background in constitutional law, can intelligently inform us of the liklihood of the House of Rep. bringing an article(s) of impeachment against the president or vice-president? Was a crime committed if the president truly thought he was telling the truth (a plausible defense given his intellect)? To the layperson it seems obvious that a crime was committed when Valerie Plame's identity was revealed so what are we missing? Is this not something (special prosecutor) Fitzgerald investigated and determined there to be insufficient evidence to prosecute? Who, among those of you who are reading this, with a background in constitutional law, can intelligently inform us of the liklihood of the House of Rep. bringing an article(s) of impeachment against the president or vice-president? Was a crime committed if the president truly thought he was telling the truth (a plausible defense given his intellect)? To the layperson it seems obvious that a crime was committed when Valerie Plame's identity was revealed so what are we missing? Is this not something (special prosecutor) Fitzgerald investigated and determined there to be insufficient evidence to prosecute?

]]> By: Wayne, Greenville TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151743 Wayne, Greenville TX Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:57:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151743 <b><i>IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY!!!!</b></i> IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY!!!!

]]> By: Justin, Kansas City, MO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151733 Justin, Kansas City, MO Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:38:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151733 Yet more evidence we should impeach these fellas. Yet more evidence we should impeach these fellas.

]]> By: JD Rugby ND http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151724 JD Rugby ND Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:11:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151724 What a surprise it is to learn that Bush and Cheney were involved in misleading media about Plame leak. Of course they were. They also intended to mislead the American people. They have the blood of Americans and Iraqis on their hands and they know it. What a surprise it is to learn that Bush and Cheney were involved in misleading media about Plame leak. Of course they were. They also intended to mislead the American people. They have the blood of Americans and Iraqis on their hands and they know it.

]]> By: mark wilkes barre pa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151695 mark wilkes barre pa Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151695 Bla bla bla ,, more useless news,, read the previous story,, same thing different blog,, come on CNN drop it already Bla bla bla ,, more useless news,, read the previous story,, same thing different blog,, come on CNN drop it already

]]> By: susan trevelyan-syke chicago illinois living in london england http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151690 susan trevelyan-syke chicago illinois living in london england Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151690 I commend Mr McClellan for telling the truth and having the integrity to reveal that he was misled into passing on false information to the press and public. If an insider like McClellan had been misled, how easy it has been to fool all of us Americans. Trust is dead. I commend Mr McClellan for telling the truth and having the integrity to reveal that he was misled into passing on false information to the press and public. If an insider like McClellan had been misled, how easy it has been to fool all of us Americans. Trust is dead.

]]> By: Damon, Ames IA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151685 Damon, Ames IA Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:23:51 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151685 It looks like Bush didn't do a very good job of surrounding himself with loyalists. 7 years in office and he hasn't learned the rules of being a President. You can't select the best man for the job, instead put the best man for the job who happens to be loyal to you. It looks like Bush didn't do a very good job of surrounding himself with loyalists. 7 years in office and he hasn't learned the rules of being a President. You can't select the best man for the job, instead put the best man for the job who happens to be loyal to you.

]]> By: alan St Louis MO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151675 alan St Louis MO Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:58:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151675 <B>YEA YEA YEA SO what is new </B> Party of Corruption is OLD NEWS <B>Hows the FOOT BALL GAME ?</B> <B>Feels like a cold winter is coming do you think? </B> YEA YEA YEA
SO what is new

Party of Corruption is OLD NEWS

Hows the FOOT BALL GAME ?
Feels like a cold winter is coming do you think?

]]> By: Gerald W, Johanesburg, Mi http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151666 Gerald W, Johanesburg, Mi Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:08:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151666 I think it's time these evildoers are brough to justice I think it's time these evildoers are brough to justice

]]> By: Ron Nebraska http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151661 Ron Nebraska Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:50:06 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151661 So all you Bush/Cheney/Rove apologists, is this ok? I mean knowingly having your mouthpiece lie to the American people, where do we stand on that? Good? Bad? Too ignorant to know the difference? So all you Bush/Cheney/Rove apologists, is this ok? I mean knowingly having your mouthpiece lie to the American people, where do we stand on that? Good? Bad? Too ignorant to know the difference?

]]> By: Cameron Memphis, TN http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151658 Cameron Memphis, TN Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:25:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151658 How much proof and testimony do you need? We ought to have an impeachment trial. The President was involved in exposing an undercover CIA agent, endangering not only her life, but the lives of her contacts. This is treason. Impeach Bush. How much proof and testimony do you need? We ought to have an impeachment trial. The President was involved in exposing an undercover CIA agent, endangering not only her life, but the lives of her contacts.

This is treason. Impeach Bush.

]]> By: Steve, Lyons, CO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151638 Steve, Lyons, CO Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:45:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151638 Bush and Cheney lied their asses off about Valerie Plume. Is everyone pretending this is news? Bush and Cheney lied their asses off about Valerie Plume.

Is everyone pretending this is news?

]]> By: Lee, Dallas, Texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151547 Lee, Dallas, Texas Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:09:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151547 It must be sad to have put his faith and trust in the leaders of our country then to find out that he was "had" and will be hung out to dry. It must be sad to have put his faith and trust in the leaders of our country then to find out that he was "had" and will be hung out to dry.

]]> By: Michael, Houston, Tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151523 Michael, Houston, Tx Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:37:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151523 I am sorry, I would like to add, a possible impeachable offense - if proven accurate and true. Everyone is due an investigation and their fair hearing. An impeachment investigation should never be a frivolous matter. I am sorry, I would like to add, a possible impeachable offense – if proven accurate and true.

Everyone is due an investigation and their fair hearing. An impeachment investigation should never be a frivolous matter.

]]> By: Michael, Houston, Tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151519 Michael, Houston, Tx Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:30:42 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151519 Well, this sounds like intentional misleading of the American people. Before you tory/loyalist types go to king georges defense, consider that we have all been misled in a very public, orchestrated way. We should all be united and ashamed that our highest officials, men we trusted and respected, have misled us in such a way. Time to appoint that special prosecutor, and dig into this mess. I think this qualifies as an impeachable offense. Unbelievable Well, this sounds like intentional misleading of the American people.

Before you tory/loyalist types go to king georges defense, consider that we have all been misled in a very public, orchestrated way. We should all be united and ashamed that our highest officials, men we trusted and respected, have misled us in such a way.

Time to appoint that special prosecutor, and dig into this mess. I think this qualifies as an impeachable offense. Unbelievable

]]> By: jerry brooks New York, N.Y. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151503 jerry brooks New York, N.Y. Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:13:48 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151503 Bush lied to the American people about a very serious issue, and then he covered it up. The mind reels what would happen to Bill Clinton if the sitution was in reverse . Now its up to the media to do its duty and not take part in the cover-up. Bush lied to the American people about a very serious issue, and then he covered it up. The mind reels what would happen to Bill Clinton if the sitution was in reverse . Now its up to the media to do its duty and not take part in the cover-up.

]]> By: Pat, Portland, Ore http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151498 Pat, Portland, Ore Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:10:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/ex-aide-points-finger-at-bush-for-deceit-in-cia-leak-scandal/#comment-151498 Why didn't you have the courage to say it then Scottie? Way to stand up you coward. When did you finally come to the realization? Seems to be the trait that the truth comes out after the heat is off. Everyone of these lying, cheat should be charged with treason. Why didn't you have the courage to say it then Scottie? Way to stand up you coward. When did you finally come to the realization? Seems to be the trait that the truth comes out after the heat is off. Everyone of these lying, cheat should be charged with treason.

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