November 20, 2007
Posted: 04:55 PM ET

Another foreign policy spat has broken out between Sens. Clinton and Obama.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – The war of words between Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama over foreign policy experience continues to escalate.

The latest salvo came Tuesday from Obama spokesman Bill Burton, who accused Clinton of supporting the Bush administration on matters of foreign policy.

"Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld have spent time in the White House and (traveled) to many countries as well, but along with Hillary Clinton they led us into the worst foreign policy disaster in a generation and are now giving George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran,” Burton said in a statement. “The real choice in this election is between conventional Washington thinking that prizes posture and positioning, or real change that puts judgment and honesty first."

Burton was responding to criticism by Clinton, who knocked Obama for saying earlier in the week that his experience living in Indonesia taught him how “ordinary people in these other countries live.”

In criticizing Obama, Clinton said that America needs a president with more foreign policy experience than he has to offer.

“Now voters will judge whether living in a foreign country at the age of 10 prepares one to face the big, complex international challenges the next President will face,” Clinton said. “I think we need a President with more experience than that. Someone the rest of the world knows, looks up to, and has confidence in. I don’t think this is the time for on the job training on our economy or on foreign policy.”

–CNN Associate Producer Lauren Kornreich

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


john, NY,NY   November 24th, 2007 11:54 am ET

I have lives in four different countries as an adult. Now as a adult you could have experience. As a child, it is pathetic to label it as foreign experince. It is even more childish to support such assertions.

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Being a naturalized citizen, I totally understand what living abroad is about. That valuable foreign experience came from interacting with local people and local culture. You get to know how they think and what they value. You live among the locals as equals. You won't get this experience as a well-protected first lady. After several trips to Africa, Chelsea received a marriage proposal offered by a Kenyan councilman with the promise of 40 goats and 20 cows. Obviously, that was not what Hillary had intended to achieve, but she still has not learned the tools of the trade in foreign services according to her critique of Obama’s foreign experiences.

Many people around the world love and hate us. You can call this American Syndrome if you wish. Visiting a country is not the same as living in one. Misunderstanding or ignoring area studies can cost us lots of lives, money and setback in foreign policies. I don't think Hillary was trying to lie about her being more experienced than Obama in foreign experiences, but she is simply very ignorant of it.

Posted By Jose Card : November 23, 2007 1:25 am

Jose Card   November 23rd, 2007 1:25 am ET

Being a naturalized citizen, I totally understand what living abroad is about. That valuable foreign experience came from interacting with local people and local culture. You get to know how they think and what they value. You live among the locals as equals. You won't get this experience as a well-protected first lady. After several trips to Africa, Chelsea received a marriage proposal offered by a Kenyan councilman with the promise of 40 goats and 20 cows. Obviously, that was not what Hillary had intended to achieve, but she still has not learned the tools of the trade in foreign services according to her critique of Obama’s foreign experiences.

Many people around the world love and hate us. You can call this American Syndrome if you wish. Visiting a country is not the same as living in one. Misunderstanding or ignoring area studies can cost us lots of lives, money and setback in foreign policies. I don't think Hillary was trying to lie about her being more experienced than Obama in foreign experiences, but she is simply very ignorant of it.

Benjamin, San Diego, Ca.   November 22nd, 2007 7:12 pm ET

One comment earlier mocks Sen. Obama for his lack of particular attention to stay within the "Democratic" mind set. Well, if there is anyone out there that can say they would like a president with a closed mind and focus on just one side of the house, I pity you. Being an experienced traveler myself I can tell you that America is not always looked upon as favorable, due to our apparent closed-mind policies. I am an American and a very proud one at that. Although living in a country at such a young age does not shape ones foreign policy understanding, it could open ones mind to what is really going on out there. Ask any parent at what point does a child learn the fastest, shaping mind frame and outlook for later years?
Alcohol, drugs, and awry fun? Yes, Obama did these things as a young man. He also admitted it beyond doubt and in writing. I would like to meet more people that can open their closets and release the skeletons with such courage. We have all made mistakes, it is the lessons learned and what you do with it that makes the difference. Obama 08

Jose Card   November 22nd, 2007 2:03 am ET

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/19/AR2007111901793.html

"Censorship! That's what some art lovers whispered during the Hillary Clinton fundraiser Nov. 5 at the Woodley Park home of Tony and Heather Podesta. …

The Podestas are part of Washington's Democratic elite: He's a top lobbyist and brother of Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta; she just launched her own lobbying firm."

There is no free lunch and Hillary knows it. Washington is a well connected place for conflict of interest, and our constitution is out of date for keeping lobbyists away from the White House and Congress. The lobbyists gave Hillary plenty of money and she called them good Americans. That's why she is afraid of answering unplanted questions from voters in Iowa. She doesn't know how to look at America from outside for lack of living abroad experience, neither does she know the inside story of American heart land.

We need a true leader, not a princess, who brags and blames everybody else. You can't blame her for thinking the White House is her permanent home if you vote her and Bill in again.

"Global spread of democracy stalled" -
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1121/p01s02-usgn.html
It is occurring in the U.S. as well as in Russia, Pakistan, and Venezuela. Do these good Americans know what they are doing to America?

Colin742   November 21st, 2007 10:02 pm ET

Obama says his experience living in the foreign culture of Indonesia between ages 6/10 give him a stronger base than Hillary to handle foreign policy. When asked, Senator Biden responded smiling "I think he's right .That is his strongest [foreign policy] credential”. Over about 35 years Hillary has been to about 80 nations sometimes talking to leaders about substantive issues. She was the keynote speakers at a conference in China of 3000 from all over the world.
The Obama site does not indicate that he speaks any language other the English. I assume he was part of the Indonesian English speaking Protestant minority. A 6 or 10 year old child living and playing in his small world has candy on his mind, not international relations. Somehow Obama’s words seem SILLY, CHILDISH, JUVANILE

PENNSYLVANIA   November 21st, 2007 5:59 pm ET

I have posted this about a billion times now… will someone please tell me WHY being First Lady means you have more experience? Someone? Anyone?

Jack, Fort Myers, FL   November 21st, 2007 12:38 pm ET

Lieberman is a member of the Knesset posing as a member of Congrress. As an Independent…he can keep his backing and play all sides of the track. Wake up you dummies.

Beverly H., Discovery Bay, CA   November 21st, 2007 11:14 am ET

The majority of these comments are from Republican Hillary Haters posing as Obama supporters. What a great forum for them! They have been scared to death of Hillary for over a decade and now can't believe she is such a formidable candidate: experienced, strong, balanced, and brilliant. As for Obama, he and his campaign people are in such a panic that they're wasting valuable air time bashing every move Hillary makes instead of articulating their own agenda and giving clear, direct, knowledgeable answers. Oh, that's right, you'd have to have knowledge based on ACTUAL experience to do that.
Bottom line, Republicans want Obama as the Democratic candidate because they can beat him (after they've ripped him apart in the campaign).

Amanda, Austin, TX   November 21st, 2007 11:07 am ET

"I regret that Obama still does not understand that he is not electable. He is the main subject of the republicans political play book. If he is the democratic candidate then the republicans will retain the White House, because 20% of democrates (sic) will not vote for a black American"….

Well 50% of this country has already said they will not vote for Hillary, so what does that say? Obama has a MUCH higher chance of snatching some of the undecided or moderate votes than Hillary does. Also, I find it funny that she things other countries will "look up to her" when A LOT of the countries she is referring to don't respect women, period, much less a woman in power. She will have not a chance in hell trying to negotiate with some of those countries.

repeatloser   November 21st, 2007 10:49 am ET

When will the dems actually nominate someone electable??

Steve in SC   November 21st, 2007 10:18 am ET

This picture looks like she is being scoulded for stealing a cookie!

anon, new york, NY   November 21st, 2007 10:06 am ET

How naive can Obama be to think that his 4 years in Indoesia with his stepfather gives him the foreign experience to be the next president? How blind can people be in believing his logic?

If norminted, the republicans can tear him down bad. The dems party will have NO chance to have a dem president.

I have yet to see a state or national poll of the dems voters that Obama beats out Hillary in electability, experience, and qualifications.

Tom Dedham, Mass   November 21st, 2007 9:37 am ET

What experience is she FOREVER touting?

Her getting national healthcare passed ….. oops.

"Staying at home having teas and cookies"….oops.

One of her few succeses was turning a $1000 overnight into $100,000, but that was just "luck".

She successfully found some missing papers on a coffee table YEARS after they went "missing".

She successfully touts her being named after Sir Edmund Hillary who was a "world renowned bee keeper" when she was born.

How can you tout your REAL experience when ALL of your RECORDS are sealed?

The most experienced and successful at geting things done ACROSS THE AISLE on the Democratic side is Joe Biden.

He forgot more than Hillarity knows, but he doesn't get the coverage or the MONEY and that is a shame.

Somewhere along the way we could have used a Biden/Lieberman (or vice-versa) ticket and this is coming from a Republican.

Rodney Dallas TX   November 21st, 2007 9:08 am ET

Scott, Royal Oak, MI

Clinton is a US Senator and was overwhelmingly voted in twice. Obama in currently in his first Senate duty. Hillary has been in longer. Makes her more experienced.

Furthermore, Obama has missed over 80% of the votes in the Senate since he's been running for President, including the most important one that he continues to bash Hillary over. He's not doing his job now in the Senate, (voting on behalf of the people of Illinois), but rather out "partying" with the people. He lacks every thing needed to be president.

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 21st, 2007 8:42 am ET

No one I know of has confidence in Clinton. Sure we all know the name. What experience does she have? I don't think many people look up to you. Have you seen the MAJORITY of the posted comments?? That's not an accurate statement ma'am.

I don't know how much experience is required to take Bushes place of using bombs rather than words, but Clinton can't offer the world anything. Those countries don't want to deal with women. I'm surprised they tolerate Rice, unless that is PR stunt on TV.

Jack, Fort Myers, FL   November 21st, 2007 8:19 am ET

This will be a short war! It seems Mr. Obama is his own worst enemy. Recommendation: Engage brain prior to opening mouth.

AJ; Montpelier, VT   November 21st, 2007 8:01 am ET

And where was Obama when it came time to vote on these crucial matters? MIA

Independent in IA   November 21st, 2007 7:00 am ET

Sorry….seems to me neither is qualified to carry a water-bucket.

Christopher, Homewood, IL   November 21st, 2007 6:10 am ET

I have been eligible to vote for 25 years. I have seen the Reasgan years, the Bush (41 and 43) years, the Clinton years, and I have personally prospered under these administrations. I have seen "experience" do great things, and I have seen it cost a lot of lives. I have seen experience save tax dollars, and I have seen it cost so much money that it has caused me to lose faith in government at many levels. I have been to Washington D.C., and I saw the Lincoln Memorial,and I saw the gravesite memorial of President John Kennedy, and saw words etched in concrete that reinforced my belief in America the beautiful, America, the strong, America the kinder, gentler country, and that's who I want us to be. Thst's the face I want on this country. From what I have read online, from what I have seen on television ,and from what debate I have listened to, I strongly believe that to be Obama.

alan St Louis MO   November 21st, 2007 1:40 am ET

We already know Clinton foreign policy

Clinton Policy is the same as Bush policy

You blind Clinton supporters prove it other wise. I SEEN HER VOTING RECORD IN THE SENATE What ever KING BUSH the second wanted SHE voted YES to it. She only begin to vote against Bush when the election race started. And even then she will still vote for Bush Foreign policy.

The Declare war on IRAN bill she voted yes. The US policy is that any one labeled as a terrorist can be attacked by the Military. Labeling the IRAN army as a terrorist authorizes the military to wage war on IRAN. Bush didn’t need that law passed to do small military strikes against Iran. OR do secret mission against Iran. He needed that law so he can start a war with Iran. And SHIRRLY voted YES.

Which means

Bush Failed Policy===Clinton Failed Policy

You Clinton blind sheep Lovers prove it otherwise. Please prove it. I got all the proof with her Senate voting record.

Bob, Tampa Florida   November 21st, 2007 1:37 am ET

In my many travels throughout the world, I had the opportunity to live in several countries including 15 years in Europe, 9 of which were after I left the military.

If anyone thinks that traveling the world where you spend several nights in heavily fortified and catered hotels and embassies counts as foreign experience then they too must believe that experience as First Lady is equal to that of being VP or even President as some would try to lead us to believe!

Hillary Clinton’s experience amounts to just what it is, 6 years in the Senate and not more. Her flip-flop on what is clearly a sensible stance regarding issuing some form of drivers permit for non-documented aliens is only just a small example of her clear attempt to play every side of the issue.

Sorry Hillary I find it hard to believe that you are actually personnel friends with any foreign leaders by most Americans definition of personnel friends I think you mistake your limited contact with those leaders and the exchange of Christmas Cards as a sign of true friendship. While Barack's experience living overseas may not be what you consider foreign experience it is one of many factors that make up Barack Obama’s core fabric and moral integrity. Something you clearly lack

Jose Card   November 21st, 2007 12:18 am ET

I was most impressed by a 2005 marriage proposal for Miss Chelsea Clinton offered by a Kenyan councilman after a few Clinton adventures in Africa. I thought the dowry that includes 40 goats and 20 cows was very interesting.

read this   November 20th, 2007 11:24 pm ET

Hey, but just because Novak served up "shamelessly unethical" and "unconfirmed crap" doesn't mean Mr. Obama should use it, right?

Oh, and if you're wondering why I'm targeting Mr. Obama right now it's because his latest stunts are worthy of lambasting. Any Democrat using wingnuts to attack a fellow Democrat raises my suspicions. It further convinces me that Mr. Obama and his team have no dividing line and no party or Democratic policy loyalties (see Social Security), but only want to win as well as use Republican talking points to do it. It's further evidence that he will govern like a Joe Lieberman Democrat in the White House, to put it bluntly, seeing no party delineation at all, but preferring to bring anyone to his side he can, regardless of whether they will stab him in the back at the first oppportunity, not to mention make us compromise on policies we believe in strongly.

Obama's latest behavior is not the politics of change, or making the case on ideas, in case anyone is paying attention. It's the old school politics of Chicago, with a little Lyndon Baynes Johnson rolled into it. A friend over the weekend reminded me of an oldie but goodie (that I can't believe I forgot!).

M. Andrews   November 20th, 2007 10:43 pm ET

I'm sorry but I must have missed a big piece…what countries "look up" to her…and what is this based on?

Brandon W DC   November 20th, 2007 10:14 pm ET

boy that statement sure inspires me to vote for her wink wink. Who are these people that look up to her, could she please state names?

Bill C Iowa   November 20th, 2007 10:12 pm ET

Once again she shows that all she can do is tear down her opponents and can't stand on her own 2 feet! I guess that is a symptom of coat tailing

Hypocrite DC   November 20th, 2007 10:08 pm ET

what did Hillary do at age 10? I think they were chisling stone at that time.

Oliver Shelby Houston, Texas   November 20th, 2007 10:07 pm ET

Boy if Obama had said this Bill would be out boo hooing for her claiming Swift Boating, but some how she can say it without swift boating, mud slinging or piling on. After they give us the definition of "is" could they please let us know the definition of the others?

AT, new york, ny   November 20th, 2007 10:05 pm ET

Hillary, right on, time to fire back at Obama and Edwards.

As indicated in the Iowa poll and other polls, you are still the best of all democrat candidates in:

- worked the hardest,
- most relevant experience,
- best leadership qualities, and
- most electable for next presidential election.

John Halverson DC   November 20th, 2007 10:01 pm ET

I guess for the old HAG she is the only one that has learned anything from life. What a joke. There are people that learn quicker then others, some people don't have to be as old as dust to have experience. Also if she has more experience why is she shadowing his campaign. Obama comes out with a new slogan, Hillary also comes out with one that is similar, he changes again so does Hillary. She doesn't have experience unless coat tailing counts.

Lewis Stapleton DC   November 20th, 2007 9:58 pm ET

How come Hillary can say this, but if anybody says something similar about her it is mudslinging and piling on. After she loses the nomination she should so a show down in Las Vegas. Hillary is great at smoke and mirrors!

Harold Reid South Dakota   November 20th, 2007 9:55 pm ET

how interesting that the dinosaur would think that you have to be a certain age to learn from life. Isn't that what life is all about? to continually and consistantly learn? I've had enough of the past and look forward to the future, Clinton is old politics, lets get in the new politics

Jen, Gainesville, FL   November 20th, 2007 9:55 pm ET

Having lived abroad gives one a global perspective. "Lived" does not mean "toured." American politicians are generally ignorant and arrogant, with Obama being an exception.

Perry Stone Chicago, Illinois   November 20th, 2007 9:53 pm ET

that looks like a personal attack, is Clinton deciding to "finally" sling mud? what a hypocrite!

Christian, Tampa FL   November 20th, 2007 9:26 pm ET

Oh for Pete's sake.

Both campaigns need to be very careful, Hillary's especially. She's really starting to seem quite mean.

Obama just needs to be careful with his next move. He can keep going up, but he can also go way down.

Atlanta, GA.   November 20th, 2007 9:14 pm ET

I think the candidate that the Republicans really want to win is Obama, not Clinton. I feel it is he that would have a bigger problem with electibility.
He is an inspiring person. But he also has a Muslim name and attended a Muslim school.What do you think the Republicans would do with that in the General election.
Seeing that we have been in a war with a Muslim country for 6 years, and it was a group of Muslims that attacked the US on 911, doesn't anyone else see that nominating him as the Democratic candidate is a PROBLEM?

FT Doylestown, Pa.   November 20th, 2007 9:01 pm ET

Hillary if such a Joke…..She has the
Experience Because she was Married to Bill Clinton and lived in the White House!? AMAZING !
So I guess the White House Chef is more Qualified as he's been there for 15 years.
Hey,If you needed Heart surgery but the Doc was busy…however you Asked if his Wife could operate on you….DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD SAY THIS????

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

Matthew   November 20th, 2007 8:39 pm ET

I think Obama was way off base saying living in a foreign country as a child has given him the foreign policy training he needs to be President. Well, maybe I'm off base now…he could be President of his Student Council with that experience, but to be President of the United States, well, it takes a lot more real life adult experience than that.

Senator Clinton has got my vote!

Jonathan Brennan, New York, NY   November 20th, 2007 8:20 pm ET

She's taking Joe Biden's words right out of his mouth and yet when she says them they get all the media's attention. kudos to clinton, obama and edwards for their public relations team and for nothing else.

C. MacLean, Raleigh, NC   November 20th, 2007 7:57 pm ET

I'm confused - what foreign policy experience does H. Clinton have, exactly? She's been a lawyer and a First Lady.

Of course, she's also a senator, but so is Obama. So who has foreign policy experience?

The only democratic candidate with any true experience in foreign policy outside the American senate is Bill Richardson, the former ambassador to the UN and current governor of New Mexico.

Ambassadors use diplomacy and negotiation, not acid rhetoric and bombs.

If you want real foreign policy experience, you won't find it in Clinton OR Obama (or Biden or Edwards, either.) Senators don't have foreign policy experience.

J - San Antonio   November 20th, 2007 7:56 pm ET

WOW - Obama talking? Go figure on the debates he always seems at a loss for words. Oh he speaks well but he just doesnt cut it on the debates.

Jeff Sacramento, CA   November 20th, 2007 7:42 pm ET

Bill Burton hit the nail on the head. Conventional "Washington" thinking V.S. judgement and honesty. Clinton says she'll usher in change, but stands by the status quo on so many issues. Relations with Cuba, not holding direct talks w/ rogue nation's leaders, to name just a few. This is the hard headed thinking that in part, got us to where we are now in how other countries percieve the US. So the solution is someone with "expierence" enough not to rock the boat in D.C.? Is it "expierence" that says a polished exterior wins out over substance?
My self, I don't want our next President to have any "experience". I don't want him or her to be a seasoned Washingtonite, intrenched in partisan politics and vendetta. I want an open mind. A different perspective. Honesty, & direct answers to direct questions.
Clinton is too polarising a figure. Similar to Bush. They could have all the best ideas in the world, but the opposite party will never follow their lead. Who do you think has a better opportunity to to give a fresh start to the U.S.? Who has the better chance of mustering support that transcends party lines? Experience or Judgment?

jasmin,iowa city,iowa   November 20th, 2007 7:06 pm ET

war of word? Christian vs Muslim…female vs male…junior vs freshman…new york vs illinois…wow that's funny…..honestly…Clinton 08!!!

pam Eugene,OR   November 20th, 2007 6:57 pm ET

The rest of the world probably does know you Hillary but they DO NOT look up to you. They know what you are and what you represent. Lies,lies and more lies.

Jose, New York, NY   November 20th, 2007 6:39 pm ET

I regret that Obama still does not understand that he is not electable. He is the main subject of the republicans political play book. If he is the democratic candidate then the republicans will retain the White House, because 20% of democrates will not vote for a black American. I'sorry but this country is not ready yet for a black president! Descrimination is still hunting us around! We have enough with Bush.

Harry,Iowa   November 20th, 2007 6:37 pm ET

I think Clinton is wrong on this one. I am a Kenyan. I am not saying this because Obama has some Kenyan connection but I know he has been in Kenya several times and he actually understands how Kenyan politics and people live. He was an adult when he was there. He was in Russia with some Congressman( I can not recall his name). I don't think Hillary taking two days excutive flights during Clinton Administration can qualify her to diminish Obama's understanding on how other countries operate. I am glad he is so diverse in his family and represent most people.

Tired of Corruption   November 20th, 2007 6:36 pm ET

Clinton helped Bush send our young men and women to Iraq to be killed or injured without reading the 90-page NIE report. She gave no thought to our soldiers lives. Her only consideration was her political career - how can this war advance my standing when I run for president.

Now she blames Bush for fooling her.

She then continues her lack of judgement by again voting with Bush to endanger our troups even further by voting for the Iran resolution.

How can anyone look at these disasterous votes that she has cast and believe she has sound foreign policy judgement. Do we want someone as president that was so easily "fooled" by Bush. Every time Hillary shows poor judgement - it's someone elses fault . She never takes the responsibility for her decisions. Sounds a lot like Bush to me.

Len, Fallbrook, CA   November 20th, 2007 6:35 pm ET

"Clinton said. “I think we need a President with more experience than that. Someone the rest of the world knows, looks up to, and has confidence in. I don’t think this is the time for on the job training on our economy or on foreign policy.”"

I agree! You are not that person.

Now let me see if I got this right. Hillary has 8 years experience waking up to Bill in the White House this gives her the experience to be President.

Would that mean Chelsea has the qualifications to be Sect'y of State because she was in the same household?

Jeremy   November 20th, 2007 6:33 pm ET

All these Obama hype and bull, somehow the Clintons always pull a victory. I feel this rookie is going not only going to loose to Clinton, he is going to be eviscerated.

Tex Mex, NYC, NY   November 20th, 2007 6:29 pm ET

Voters yet have to see exactly what sort of experience Mrs. Clinton is running on. Of course, we will not find out, as Mrs. Clinton said, until after January 2009 the earliest she claims her husband's presidential library will release her White House records.

Hilary Clinton and her cronies wants to dupe the American people by selling the "experience pig" in a bag. Mrs. Clinton, it is time you level with the American people and take responsibility for your "experience".

Mrs. Clinton, disclose your White House records and "let's have a conversation" about your "experience" after that!

John, St. Louis MO   November 20th, 2007 6:29 pm ET

I will be glad when one of them, EITHER of them, is out of the race. It kills me how, on both sides of the aisle, they are tearing each other apart. Then all of a sudden when each party has one nominee, they will again all be buddy buddy. That's why it should be Bill Richardson against Mike Huckabee!!!

anonymos   November 20th, 2007 6:26 pm ET

I can belive she said this… because If I were clinton I will be embarace to say this since it will back fire at her… well let's she has foreing expriance where did she have used it, how come she didn't used when it was needed so badly before Bush send our troops with out having enough evidance. where was she, were was her expriance? this is something I don't like about conventional thinking politics becasue they think American people don't know who is what and what they have accomplished when they were in a position to make a difference? Because we Will Senetor Clinton?

Heather, Nashville, TN   November 20th, 2007 6:24 pm ET

Clinton is right we do need someone in office that has the experience and the know how to fix the situation we are now in.

Len, sparks Nv   November 20th, 2007 6:21 pm ET

Clinton was not ambassador to any country. She just jetted in and out. That does not prepare her to lead on foreign policy on Day One. And considering she did not see the potential for disaster in Iraq before the War, then I don't see her as being ready to lead on Day One on that count either. She really messed up. Obama had the vision to see what would happen in Iraq before it happened. He had some innate wisdom to know how to read that situation correctly. Yes perhaps living in a foreign country, even at age 10, can be a valuable experience when making decisions.

Scott, Royal Oak, MI   November 20th, 2007 6:11 pm ET

First Lady is not an elected office, Hillary! You truly do not have the "on the job experience" that you criticize Obama for not having.

Hypocrite!

Ian, Eastham MA   November 20th, 2007 6:10 pm ET

CNN has the lamest titles and pictures. Judging by the pair, it looks like their war of words went:

BO - "My clap is more soulful"

HC - "My clap is better, I look like a robot"

When it was more like:

BO - "Your foreign policy is like GW's"

HC - "Well your foreign policy is vague"

OMG, they're both right for once.

Brennan Colbert, South Lake Tahoe, California   November 20th, 2007 6:09 pm ET

I AGREE! I am not a Clinton supporter usually, but I DO have to give her props. She is very right. Obama lacks experience.

KickOutTheNeoCons   November 20th, 2007 5:57 pm ET

Another ridiculous Hillary-ism:

“I think we need a President with more experience than that. Someone the rest of the world knows, looks up to, and has confidence in."

Maybe I'm just misinformed but I think the rest of the world would like a President that would stop US aggression towards other nations in the name of "national security" or "pre-emptive defense". What a total crock! Why do people still buy this crap?

1) War damages national security because it incites hatred toward the US and destablises the world.

2) The immense cost of war is only doing more damage to national security because it severely damages the economy.

3) The US military empire is unsustainable and will ultimately fail.

The US should only go to war when war is declared by Congress and when national security is immediately threatened. If any nation posed a real threat to the US, the US would nuke them into history. The "national security" label has been abused far too long for justifying foreign intervention in the interests of oil, Israel and the military industrial complex.

Tom, ALBUQUERQUE, NM   November 20th, 2007 5:55 pm ET

I believe Clinton and Obama both have something to offer in the category of experience and the need for change. Hillary with her experience as a Senator do offer the experience of working with fellow senators and though some might disagree, the eight years of being first lady does help her resume. Change just for the sake of change isn't always a the best move. Hillary would offer the nation a new approach, any Democrat would. She is our best choice.

Tevin, Raleigh NC   November 20th, 2007 5:53 pm ET

And exactly what experience does Hill have? If you're going to critisize someone else, please provide us with exactly what experience you have and how it'd help you relate to the world. Does anyone think that the leaders of the Middle East, particularly Iran, will "look up" to Hillary? I don't think so!

KD, cherry hill NJ   November 20th, 2007 5:53 pm ET

Yes barack HUSSEIN obama knows alot about growing up in indonesia the largest muslim country, the middle east and SADDAM HUSSEIN'S iraq he has a lot of experinece in this area. He can relate to them so well it is easier for him to unite usa and the islamic world.

Paul, OH   November 20th, 2007 5:40 pm ET

What Obama says has a lot of credibility> It always helps to understand how a particukar culture and religion works. Once you understand that, you can talk in a level playing ground. No one likes to be talked down. HRC has no idea what she is talking about. Imagine for a moment that there was no Bill Clinton. Would anyone even know HRC. She has barely had any PUBLIC OFFICE position where she has dealt with people's problems and issues. I have never seen a person who has been such a FLIP-FLOPPER. Cant she ever be straight with the people and speak afcts to people instead of SPEAKING DOWN. No wonder she has to PLANT QUESTIONS to GET AWAY from hard questions. God help this country. DEMOCRATS MUST BE DUMB to put her in.

JOE B   November 20th, 2007 5:38 pm ET

This is so simple its stupid: since when is living in a foreign country from ages 6 to 10 relevant foreign policy experience to be president? No, let me make it even simpler: since when is anything a person did from ages 6 to 10 relevant experience to be president? Is there anything you media types and Obamaphiles won't buy from this fraud? I mean, where's your dignity man?

Del Boise Idaho   November 20th, 2007 5:27 pm ET

the only thing Hillary has a lot of experience with is dodging truth, malipulating, denial on every issue she is confronted with. Straight forwardness is not in her character no matter how deep you look , it's not there. All the others are more honest than she is. Why is it that no else will admit it. the clinton clan has gained it's power to controll by all the black side if life and back alleys has to offer. wake up people.

mountain man   November 20th, 2007 5:27 pm ET

For all Obamas talk of hope he sure does like to tear down other democrats.

Lee, Red Bluff, CA   November 20th, 2007 5:25 pm ET

Let's see - living in Indonesia from the age of 6 to 10 gave Obama unique insight that led him to oppose the war in Iraq some 30+ years later.

What unique insight does Mr. Obama bring from his teenage years spent screwing off until his Junior year in college, drinking, smoking dope and "doing some blow when I could afford it"?

What judgment does Mr. Obama bring when he walks right into the Bob Novack trap in the last couple of days and then jumps on the Clinton campaign to cover how stupid he looked.

I guarantee you Democrats - if Mr. Obama wins the Democratic nomination the Republicans will eat him alive. Democrats will have zero chance at winning the White House.

Laura Tulsa OK   November 20th, 2007 5:24 pm ET

Neither of these people can state specific achievements they've had in their political servitude. Notice how both Hillary and Obama speak in generalizations.
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Time's UP for Hillary to stop talking trash: WHAT HAS SHE DONE in foreign policy that has been a great success? Please be specific.

stan pitts p.a   November 20th, 2007 5:23 pm ET

I will be donating more money to the obama campaign because Americans need and deserve a president who will tell them the truth the first time and always, obama has enough experience and a good political team to make sound judgements in the white house as president, he has enough experience to lead this country as long as he continues to surround himself with a lot of respected and experienced foreign relations experts, good judgement and genuine love and care for the american people is what this country desperately needs and obama is the man!!! we need to go back to caring and looking after our own people especially our vets obama 08!!!

Lance in Monrovia CA   November 20th, 2007 5:19 pm ET

I find it amusing that now Clinton is lashing out at Obama in a desperate, silly fashion. To critique Obama for his experience living in another country is not an effective tool for her and will not help her with voters.

If she was smart, she'd ignore Obama and concentrate on the Republicans. the fact that Obama has drawn her personal attacks is a signifigant, signifigant turning point in this campaign. It says that Hillary is afraid and believes that her "inevitability" is in trouble.

There really is nothing substantial that Obama can be attacked on. He has far more legistlative experience than she does, with over 15 years in public office. (Being first lady doesn't count as experience, regardless of what Hillary's spin miesters say.)

Obama has passed a long list of bipartisan legislation, something Hillary hasn't done. Obama has passed the first meaningful ethics reform in a generation (the reason Hillary can no longer use her Wall Mart provided jet).

Obama worked as a community organizer in Chicago, turning down 700 corporate job offers, while at the same time Hillary was on the board of directors at Wall Mart, known as "our little lady" there. She was the walking poster girl for NAFTA loss of jobs and cheap products from China.

Obama is the real deal with real world experience while Hillary is a paper tiger in the extreme.

I'm tickled that she's resorting to cheap attacks. This means her campaign is showing the troubles it's been trying to hide from the American people for so long.

Need more proof… go to her website at hillaryclinton.com, and type your zipcode into the events finder, within a hundred miles. You'll find next to NO EVENTS listed. Maybe one or two in each area. I've done this in Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, and California.

Then, go do the exact same thing on Obama's site, within a hundred miles. I'll tell you as of today, there are precisely 60 EVENTS listed on Obama's site, meetings, parties, canvasses, phonebank parties, all going on currently. In the same hundred mile radius in Southern California, Clinton has precisely TWO EVENTS and maybe four HILLSTAR trainings sponsored by the campaign.

That should tell you exactly why Hillary is going on offense and getting panicky. She should be. She's badly losing the primary and all the bogus polls and CNN love fests in the world can't prop up her failing campaign much longer.

Obama 08. Obama rising.

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