November 26, 2007
Posted: 07:19 AM ET

Watch part of Mike Huckabee's sermon at Gateway Baptist Church in Irmo, South Carolina.

FOUNTAIN INN, South Carolina (CNN) — Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee stepped into a familiar role on Sunday morning: that of Baptist minister.

Huckabee, who was a minister before he served two and a half terms as governor as Arkansas, took to the stage for about half an hour at two Baptist churches in South Carolina and told the congregations: "I am here today to talk about Jesus and not to talk about me."

"I always try to remind people that there is a place for politics, but when I come to church, it's to worship," he said at Gateway Baptist Church in Irmo, where he was mistakenly introduced as "Governor Hucklebee."

In Irmo and at First Baptist Church in Fountain Inn, Huckabee weaved jokes and anecdotes from his life in Arkansas into his sermons while also demonstrating a deep familiarity with the New Testament, quoting passages from memory.

"God is still looking for good soldiers, good soldiers for Christ," he told the congregation in Irmo. "Every single person here is a soldier that God needs in his army. He is just waiting on us to say here am I, send me."

Huckabee said he has been confronted by people unsure about his transition from faith to politics.

"If you've been a pastor as I have and then you run for office, there are some people who are incredibly uncomfortable with all of that," he said, but joked that they were "undecided voters."

In his second sermon of the morning, Huckabee urged the audience into avoid arrogance and selfishness.

"Any time we ever look down on somebody for whatever reason, that's the sin," he said. "What we look down on them for is not nearly as sinful a behavior as our act of looking down, somehow thinking that our standard of behavior was superior to theirs and not understanding that neither our nor their standard of behavior matches up to His, because His is the only behavior that ever really hit it right on the mark.

"The only good thing about any of us is the God in us, not the us," Huckabee said.

After the later service ended in Fountain Inn, Huckabee and his wife Janet lingered for an hour shaking hands with dozens of church-goers who had lined up to meet them, many of whom told CNN they were already supporting Huckabee's presidential bid.

– CNN South Carolina Producer Peter Hamby

Filed under: Faith • Mike Huckabee • South Carolina


Audrey   January 8th, 2008 1:01 am ET

This is a scary guy, probably the only one scarier than Bush. A 'Soldier' for Christ?! Letting go of relationships? What in the world is this guy talking about? One thing I can't stand about evangelical christians (not capitalized on purpose) is their holier-than-thou, exclusive, militaristic and violent rhetoric. And some of the comments on this site are truly frightening to a normal, sane individual. 'Monkey' design (of course meant to put down scientists (like myself with a BS in Molecular Biology), 'Liberal Protestants' bringing down the end of the world??

I knew other people that talked like this- they shot at me when I was in Iraq.

The christian right is neither. You wanna quote the founding fathers? How about these apples…

The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man. (Thomas Jefferson, as quoted by Saul K. Padover in Thomas Jefferson on Democracy, New York, 1946, p. 165, according to Albert Menendez and Edd Doerr, compilers, The Great Quotations on Religious Liberty, Long Beach, CA: Centerline Press, 1991, p. 48.)

I do not find in the superstition of christianity any redeemable feature- Abraham Lincoln

He [Jefferson] rejoiced with John Adams when the Congregational church was finally disestablished in Connecticut in 1818; welcoming "the resurrection of Connecticut to light and liberty, Jefferson congratulated Adams "that this den of priesthood is at length broken up, and that a protestant popedom is no longer to disgrace American history and character."

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a Virgin Mary, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter…. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away [with] all this artificial scaffolding. (Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, 11 April 1823, as quoted by E. S. Gaustad, "Religion," in Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: A Reference Biography, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1986, p. 287.)

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize [sic], every expanded prospect. (James Madison, in a letter to William Bradford, April 1, 1774, as quoted by Edwin S. Gaustad,

[on Washington's first inaugural speech in April 1789] . .. That he was not just striking a popular attitude as a politician is revealed by the absence of of the usual Christian terms: he did not mention Christ or even use the word "God." Following the phraseology of the philosophical Deism he professed, he referred to "the invisible hand which conducts the affairs of men," to "the benign parent of the human race." (James Thomas Flexner, George Washington and the New Nation [1783-1793], Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1970, p. 184.)

Washington's religious belief was that of the enlightenment: deism. He practically never used the word "God," preferring the more impersonal word "Providence." How little he visualized Providence in personal form is shown by the fact that he interchangeably applied to that force all three possible pronouns: he, she, and it. (James Thomas Flexner, George Washington: Anguish and Farewell [1793-1799], Boston

So get of all your high horses, all you rewriters of history. There is not a SINGLE reference to god in the Constitution.
I am an American. I will NEVER vote for someone who doesn't acknowledge the worth and dignity of all Americans AND their religions, whether they be christians, atheists, buddhist, jews, muslims, what have you. I, for one, will not be voting for the installment of the 'army of Christ' at the next election.

For everyone out there, this guy should make you very afraid.

I was deployed to a theocracy. Check it out. all you need to do is walk down the nearest army recruiter.

Judgemental, exclusionist, militaristic…not the typical words I would use to describe the Great Jesus Christ. If the end times are indeed coming, you religious zeolots of all faiths will bring it on yourselves, for turning away from reason, inclusion, enlightenment and understanding.
Get your head out of the sand. Worship your God not by inflammatory rhetoric but by encouraging freedom and respect for all humanity. That means all humanity, not just when everyone becomes a christian. Persoally, I believe in the True Christ. The 'WIMPY' Christ, as put by one cruel commentor. The one who wouldn't fight for himself, who loved both his neighbors and his enemies, who walked with prostitutes and destitutes.
Sheesh, you people sound like a bunch of raving islamic fundamentalists. you haven't started strapping bombs to yourselves yet but that's probably coming in the not too distant future.
Yikes…

NY, NY   December 21st, 2007 2:19 am ET

Atheists are the most pathetic people on the planet

Every chance they get to spew out their religion it is always filled with hate

So just to get this straight–they dont want someone who believes in all the good and loving teachings of Christ. They want a President who leaves his DNA splattered all over the Oval Office and a young girls dress?

examine yourself

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 28th, 2007 10:57 pm ET

DOSOMERESEARCH, heed your own screenname. Madison's one thing, but Jefferson wasn't anything remotely recognizable as a Christian. He, like most of the founding fathers, was a Deist who believed in a vague, remote, "Creator", but had little regard for organized religion, or the divinity of Christ.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law"

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

Ray sarasota   November 28th, 2007 7:55 am ET

It's not about politics. And to prove it former Governor "Hucklebee" will tell us how many trips he made to South Carolina churches to preach before he became a Presidential candidate.

DOSOMERESEARCH, Ferndale, MI   November 27th, 2007 3:45 pm ET

Newsflash, "Z from St. Louis," this country was founded on Christianity. If you ever had a high school history class you would know that. Do you have the same opinion of men like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson? Good luck educating yourself – I'll pray for you.

DP, Fullerton, CA   November 27th, 2007 1:39 am ET

You all the liberals who always scorn God and His followers, just do whatever you want to do if it makes you feel better. Because there will be your time when you really need God one day. Just laugh as much as you can.

Don't you know that all the wise men including those Dems presidents, they do believe in God and respect Him. The more you know God, the more wise will you be.

This country must be led by a President who has fears to God.

Peter, Btown, Wa   November 27th, 2007 1:07 am ET

I would rather have a president with faith then without, i believe that faith creates integrity, and in this political climate integrity is something our country needs. Huckabee has it so does Obama.

CHURCH,LA.   November 26th, 2007 10:37 pm ET

LETS SEE BILL CLINTON SEPERATED THE DESK FROM MONICA! I RATHER HAVE THE CHURCH!!!

John, CA   November 26th, 2007 9:03 pm ET

Every time these characters talk about their faith and family values they end up getting dragged out of airport bathrooms !!..Enough already

LQ, ROCHESTER MN   November 26th, 2007 8:39 pm ET

Remember that Republican debate when GWB answered the question about which political philosopher influenced him the most? He said Jesus.

A person's religion – as long as it doesn't interfere with my life or other people's lives – is his/her personal business. But it would take a LOT more than someone's belief in Jesus to convince me to vote for him.

Tony Bluesky Hamlton ON   November 26th, 2007 8:08 pm ET

Whoa!!!!
Christianity Top Down??!!
I don't think so!!
It's your choice to accept or reject John 3:16!!!
But the day WILL come when you will realize it's too late to change your mind after leaving the issue for "a more convenient time".
I pray you'll seriously reconsider. This is way more than a vote every 4 years, man!!!! It's called eternity.

jms, Tn   November 26th, 2007 7:29 pm ET

I trust a bible toting politician about as much as I do a bible toting
used car salesman.

Steve Blaine Washington   November 26th, 2007 7:07 pm ET

People use the word Christian very loosely. Are the people who call themselves Christians, Christians in the sense that the early Christians were Christians. If so, they would know what baptism by fire means, the meaning of the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthood, what the new name means, what baptism of the dead means and many other phrases associated with the early Christians.
There is only one God, one Jehovah and one Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. People just associate them different because God gave everyone free agency to do so..

Derek, Honolulu HI   November 26th, 2007 6:36 pm ET

Yeah – soldiers for Jesus! Jesus needs more soldiers! Everyone grab a gun and go kill some Ay-rabs for Jesus and for Hucklebee!

Ba Gua, Chico, CA   November 26th, 2007 6:32 pm ET

What God needs is Goddess. A little balance never hurts, like the Tao.

JT, Denver   November 26th, 2007 5:52 pm ET

umm steve NJ….

just thought you would like to know 4+3 = 2……..in mode 5. things are not always what they seem!

josh   November 26th, 2007 5:45 pm ET

I CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THESE CLOSED MINDED, INTOLERANT CONSERVATIVES… UH… I MEAN LIBERALS.

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 5:36 pm ET

Thank you for posting my comment to Maryann and Tim.

Sincerely,

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 5:30 pm ET

CNN, Did I get too biblical for you?

Cable King Pittsburgh PA   November 26th, 2007 5:05 pm ET

Huckabee is a ho.

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 5:00 pm ET

Maryann and T.Tim, It's a different kind of soldier, different kind of battle, different armor, different weapons. Look into Ephesians 6:10-18(new Testament) Our battle is spiritual, not against flesh and blood. We have the armor of God and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Our enemy is Satan and we have the right to defend those whom he is trying to destroy, hence our involvement in war. Would you stand by and watch someone being murdered or try to defend them? Satan is powerful, and deceptive. He came to steal, kill and destroy and is quite skilled at it. Scary but true. You can read about the outcome of this battle in Revelation but you will need the Holy Spirit to understand it. The jihadist is out to force people into their way or kill them. The Christian should be offering the truth; as I said before, you cannot force someone to believe. God is all-knowing and all-powerful but remember He allows us to choose what we will do or not do, therefore, like it or not, we must choose what we will do with Jesus and who we will serve, Satan or God?

Maryann - Orlando, FL   November 26th, 2007 4:52 pm ET

Oh, Bob! I thought you were describing the extremely "cerebral" book by Christopher Hitchens entitled:
'god Is Not Great'.

If you want to bend you brain around reason, you will want to check it out. You will come away an educated man!

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 26th, 2007 3:54 pm ET

Bob, Seattle–

I'll read Evidence if you read the response to it: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/

I've read neither yet, but I have read apologetics in the past, and the responses to them, and thus far I know which strikes me as being based on more solid scholarship…

thefishermen   November 26th, 2007 3:44 pm ET

God is not looking for soilders, he's looking for fisher's of men. No baiting necessary..

Bob, Seattle   November 26th, 2007 3:34 pm ET

Steve,Landing: The answer to your question may be the book by Josh McDowell: "Evidence that demands a Verdict". It has sold 10 million copies. Quite a lot for a heavy, cerebral topic. But yours is a cerebral question. Only the very cerebral can read this book. It gives rise to brain cramp in it's complex, thorough treatment 'proving the existence Jesus and that He is who He said He is'. McDowell set out to disprove the idea of God. His purpose was to put to rest the argument of Jesus. He set out to prove Christians were totally inaccurate in their beliefs. His research is exhaustive and complete. Just look at the bibliography of referenced material. Anybody using 'intelligence' as their perspective on whether or not to 'believe' in Jesus should read this book thoroughly and then decide. It is truly the definitive 'work' for the cerebral (as opposed to pure faith driven primarily from the heart). Josh McDowell converted from non-believer to believer during the extensive and long research of the topic. Purely based on 'facts'. Heavy reliance on 'written history' and archeology. Heavy to 'laws' of logic. Try it. You will come away and educated man. Then decide.

T. Tim, Lodi, WI   November 26th, 2007 3:33 pm ET

"God is still looking for good soldiers…" Sounds like a Jihadi advertisement.

Maryann - Orlando, FL   November 26th, 2007 3:28 pm ET

Why does god need soldiers? It is preached that he is all-knowing and all-powerful. So why does he supposedly need humans to fight some unknown war for him.

I just don't get it. The flying spaghetti monster doesn't need any soldiers!

s   November 26th, 2007 3:27 pm ET

Stev in NJ,

You are trying way too hard. Faith (belief) is a matter of the heart, not the head!

Surrealist, Fort Myers, FL   November 26th, 2007 2:45 pm ET

Please…somebody just please beam me up! Somebody forgot to take their meds!!!

The Realist said: One chooses to believe in God by faith, child like faith.

All you have to do is look around. Your other option is to believe that this just all happened. The gods of probability were on your side.. Except, the more species we find, the greater that mathematical impossibility of this actually happening becomes. No proof here either..

Think about. Could there be a God? This is the question that takes faith. The other questions are easier. What kind of God would you be, hands-on or hands-off? Would you want your creations to have a choice at being with you, without your interference?? At what level??? Now its getting real…

Posted By therealist : November 26, 2007 2:27

BLAH, BLAH…WHERE IN THE HECK DOES THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS COME IN TO PLAY ON THIS POLITICAL BLOG.

joseph, ausitn,tx   November 26th, 2007 2:39 pm ET

Bob, Seattle

carefull Bob asking people to pray for these people might make them seem as you are force feeding them your beliefs. Only a secular progressive finds praying offensive, and uneducated
belief system. You probably ruined their day, knowing that people (i am one of them) will be praying for them. As for Huckabee, so long as he isnt going to make christianity a must for americans, whats the big deal, all you educated, tolerant people, try not to lump all Christians together. Just as there are bad secular progressives, so is the same with christians, but I at least know not all secular progressives are bad, why dont you try to do the same, or am I forcing my beliefs on you.

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 26th, 2007 2:35 pm ET

Steve, Bob, and everyone else–

I'm not debating the existence of God. I don't believe, you do, whatever. I'm asking how *belief* can be a *choice*. The things I believe, I believe because they seem likely and fit with my personal experience. I can't just *choose* to believe in God any more than I could *choose* to believe that 2+2=5, or U2 is as good as everyone thinks, or that Zeus sits atop Olympus hurling thunderbolts at those who displease him. These are all things that just do not make sense to me, choice doesn't come into the equation. How can you tell people to *choose* what makes sense to them? This is a fundamental question that no one has answered.

therealist   November 26th, 2007 2:27 pm ET

One chooses to believe in God by faith, child like faith.

All you have to do is look around. Your other option is to believe that this just all happened. The gods of probability were on your side.. Except, the more species we find, the greater that mathematical impossibility of this actually happening becomes. No proof here either..

Think about. Could there be a God? This is the question that takes faith. The other questions are easier. What kind of God would you be, hands-on or hands-off? Would you want your creations to have a choice at being with you, without your interference?? At what level??? Now its getting real…

Steve in SC   November 26th, 2007 2:23 pm ET

Steve in NJ,

My faith is real to me! You cannot understand why because you have made up your mind not to! You just have to understand that not everything is explainable, hence BELIEF! Ask someone to explain evolution and chances are great that they cannot. The lack of explaination does not hinder their belief in it! PS my faith is wrongly defined as religion. It is a relationship! We can debate all day long and get nowhere because I am go to good with where I am and am not about to change for $1M or any other amount! I am not sure how else to say it!

Bob, Seattle   November 26th, 2007 2:02 pm ET

Steve in NJ: Read the Gospels. If your heart is open you will believe. If not, you won't. You will know. You will make your choice. You will have your reward. Life is all about choices. So is death. And where you spend eternity.

Ana-had-wolves: Have any of your personal beliefs ever affected those decisions that affect others? Maybe a moral base of personal beliefs is a better odds-on place to start than most?

Brain-Somerset: Not a bad job,being a book salesman for the Living God that teaches 'grace and tolerance' even of you. A good foundation from which to expand as a lover of the Creator who created all people in His image. Study the Creator to understand the people. Understanding the people is a solid base from which to propose to govern them.

Henry Miller: Thinking about your questioning of serving two masters. The people or GOD. Please read the above paragraph.. Also, the Apostle Paul established that 'faith alone' brings salvation. This from the new testament. The new covenant between God and his people. The bible is truth. If you have studied it as you say, then you know that Chistianity is about a 'personal' relationship with our Father – Jesus Christ. Period. All else in a Christian flows from that relationship. Yes indeed their are 'false Christians' – as Jesus warns.

C.MacClean & Jackson: You folks ought to read the 1st Amendment and understand it before you speak out about the separation of church and state. Your lack of education in this regard is apparent.

Finally, I invite all Christians to pray for: Seka, H.Miller, CableKing, Brian, Z, Ms Johnson, Andrew, Newt G., Linda, Mark, E, Dismayed, Jack, AJ, Jim, Andrew, Steve, Andy, Freetobeme, Brandon, Jackson, and Anonymous. Oh, and Barbara. To our great blessing, all in the U.S. live in the land of the free. Free to have choices. God is God. Jesus is God. The Holy Spirit is God. The Holy Trinity is truth. Whether you believe it or not. There is an eternity. You get to live where you choose in enternity. Heaven or Hell. Your choice. Pretty simple stuff. Really. God is in control. HE knows the end result. Guess what? God wins. In the end. All else is just choreography. The only thing the people have to decide is which dance line they are going to be in. All the people will suffer the rewards of their decisions. Just as in life. Also, in death and eternity.

Gary Wright, NC   November 26th, 2007 1:57 pm ET

It is wonderful to have someone with the brass to at least state his beliefs and stick by them. Maybe these people who think this crosses the line between church and state should understand that our constitution was founded on Christian beliefs. Maybe some of these people should visit other countries and see just how great our nation really is. We are the only country where speech is truely a freedom. Go Mike and may God bless you.

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 26th, 2007 1:52 pm ET

Steve in SC–

Choosing your outfit for the day is not the same thing as "choosing" a religion. You can choose your actions, but not your perception of reality. I don't believe in God for the same reason I don't believe in dragons or fairies. It doesn't matter what I *want* to believe–I'd like to believe that the world is a fair and just place and that everyone will be happy in the after-life. But wanting to believe that doesn't *make* me believe it. How can you just say "oh, okay, this is what's real to me now"? If I offered you a million dollars to believe in Bigfoot, could you do that, or could you just pretend to do it?

MJR, Akron OH   November 26th, 2007 1:42 pm ET

"Any time we ever look down on somebody for whatever reason, that's the sin. What we look down on them for is not nearly as sinful a behavior as our act of looking down, somehow thinking that our standard of behavior was superior to theirs and not understanding that neither our nor their standard of behavior matches up to His, because His is the only behavior that ever really hit it right on the mark."

Such a powerful statement. though i do not believe he will be a good candidate, i think he has some great ideas.

As for the nonsense and BS i keep reading in these comments… shut up. The Pentagon HAS GOOD SOLDIERS. It needs good Leadership. Do NOT bash on the men and women who are serving, unquestioningly mind you, their country. They are doing their job. What they do is not their choice. So take that bull$#!7 mentality and stuff it in some uncomfortable, dark orafice of yours and bleed.

Steve in SC   November 26th, 2007 1:25 pm ET

Steve in NJ,

How do you choose anything? You make choices concerning what you wear, you make choices concerning what you eat and where you go. For me, I was raised in the church and one day I heard the Word, and I believed! It became real to me! I made my choice! Just that simple! Why would I choice to believe the sky is orange, although Have you ever seen an Arizona sunset? Plently of orange!

Steve in SC   November 26th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

Anonymous,

I understand where you are coming from. We treat each other like last week's leftovers. That was never God's intent. He wants us to love each other as He loves us. You have to understand that just as there is a God who is love, there is a devil who is about hate! I truly hope that in your journey for the truth, you find that He loves you. I need to tell you that I really respect where you are coming from! I haven't seem this type of honesty in a long time! May you find peace on your journey!

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 1:19 pm ET

Greg in NY,NY,

I agree in many cases but I know a whole lot of Christians who are truly following Christ, and Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me". It's the righteousness of Christ that really matters in the end.

Z, St. Louis, MO   November 26th, 2007 1:15 pm ET

Huckabee is just another charlatain
that sells a fairy tale for a living.
Preachers and politicians both make
their money the same way, leeching
off people that produce something for
society by doing something.It's time
to tax preachers and churches (this
means mosques,temples,shirnes etc..)
and all the land they own. No more
free tax exempt rides for religious
salesmen(and women!)..

Just plain scared.   November 26th, 2007 1:06 pm ET

Lover of God and Christ and mankind –

Dude, stop it, you're scaring me.

I love people who have no problem believing that god's son (or god, or who ever you think Jesus actually was) came to Earth, born to a virgin, over 2000 years ago and pass it along like fact; like you were there or something.

Fact: There a many people who claim to be prophets in our time. You can find them in your local cult or insane asylum. Why would you condemn the word of a living prophet when you accept the story of Jesus that's been rewritten (and re-interpreted) several hundred times over? Do you accept the truth that you’d turn your back on Jesus if you were alive in his time?

I just don't get it. Just like I don't get athletes who thank god for their victory; what, god didn't like the other guy?

But hey, don’t listen to me, I’m far too logical, "Hmmm, could it be…Satin?" – DC

Greg, NY, NY   November 26th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

- Mohandas Gandhi

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 12:56 pm ET

To Steve in Landing, NJ,

God said "You will seek for me and find me when you seek for me with all of your heart" If you really want to know the truth, keep seeking. Read the book of John in the New Testament until you understand. God knows if you are sincere in your quest, and if you are, He will reveal His truth. Jesus said "If you continue in my teaching, you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." It's true.

Barbara, Crawford TX   November 26th, 2007 12:54 pm ET

And on the seventh day, God created Michael Huckabee to save and redeem mankind from the evils of intelligence.

Nick, Chester SC   November 26th, 2007 12:39 pm ET

Maybe Huck should give a sermon on Jesus's "turn the other cheek" fromt he famous "Sermon on the Mount". In it he might pause to reconsider leaving all "options on the table" when it comes to Iran. It's very interesting to have a Christian minister preaching the war option.

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 26th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

Dear Anonymous-There truly is a God and, surprise! there is also a devil. God has given us free will. Adam and Eve CHOSE to disobey God. We are created in the image of God but can choose to disobey Him. God sent his Son, Christ into the world to die for our sins and offer forgiveness to those who believe He is who He says He is. With this comes the power of the Holy Spirit by which the power of sin over us is broken. (Granted, many who profess to be Christians are not living obedient lives as becoming a Christian does not immediately make one perfect. Yet, a true believer will strive to live according to the commands of Christ and not according to mere human thought or what Satan would present as "good and logical". Satan is a deceiver. God is allowing people to choose and that is why there is so much horror in the world. Too many are shoosing the way of Satan. Christ gave his life to save others and break the power of sin. We can choose His way or Satan's. Jesus said, "He who is not for me, is against me." Your choice. Don't follow those who are Christians in name only; follow Christ.

Henry Miller, I agree with you on some points but I believe there has been MUCH good done by Christians. Also, history, ie: Nero, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam, Bin Laden, to name a very few, reveals athiesm and other religions cause far more injustices and loss of life. I believe we should stand, resist, fight against evil when it moves, or in some cases threatens to move and destroy. I would vote for someone who has courage to do so. God loves you and I do to.

jw, canadian,ok   November 26th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

make that DEMOCRAT

jw, canadian,ok   November 26th, 2007 12:36 pm ET

Jesus was a Deomcrat, ya'll know that?

Anonymous   November 26th, 2007 12:28 pm ET

Steve,
I wish that I could believe that was true but there is so much suffering of the innocent. I cannot fathom that a loving god would allow such a thing.

I can appreciate your faith and I hope that it brings you comfort. I suppose more than debating the existance of god that when horrible things such as the brutal death of a toddler happen that it might make us all think about the things we have to be thankful for and it certainly makes all of our political bickering seem silly.
Democrat or Republican, Christian, Aetheist or Agnostic, we are all human beings and we should remember to be a little kinder to one another.

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 26th, 2007 12:25 pm ET

Steve in SC–

How does one choose to believe in God? Belief isn't a light switch you can flip on and off at will. Could you believe that the sky was orange if you chose to?

Steve in SC   November 26th, 2007 12:12 pm ET

Anonymous,

Yes there is a God! He has given us the ability to make choices! Some make good choices, some make bad choices! The people who killed that baby made a sad, unexplainable choice! We all have the ability to choose to believe in God or not! I choose to believe!

Mayetta Wilson, Nashville, Arkansas   November 26th, 2007 12:11 pm ET

Does anyone not care that Mike Huckaby is being promoted and backed by one of the TV evangelists who is under ivestigation and will probably be indicted for fraud. He will appear on 6 of his shows. Look into his "Christian" governing in Arkansas. I, too, am a Christian, and a Southern Baptist. But I believe preachers should preach if they are so called. What about this church/state thing, anyway?

freetobeme, Rochester, PA   November 26th, 2007 12:06 pm ET

When Jimmy Carter ran in 1976, saying that he was a "born-again Christian," he was met with ridicule. Now it seems as if every candidate wants to parade his/her faith before the world just to prove he/she is Christian enough. I respected Carter for daring to say what was too often left unsaid during the humanistic 1970's. Now that the Christian right has kidnapped faith and has made it obligatory for candidates to mouth their piety in order to get into office, platitudes of faith mean nothing to me.

My freedom means more to me than the faith of the president who has power over me. Give me my freedom, and you can keep your faith.

Anonymous   November 26th, 2007 12:00 pm ET

If there truly was a god then I seriously doubt that CNN would have headlines such as "Dead baby girl identified…..medical examiners determined that her skull had been fractured…"

Steve in SC   November 26th, 2007 11:56 am ET

Good for him. If anyone is offended, first tell the democrats to stop politicking in black churches! Wonder why you never see them in predominently white congregation? I like Mike! I have no problem with him sp[eaking in church as long as it isn't political

Mary, Beaver, PA   November 26th, 2007 11:52 am ET

I won't be voting for someone because she/he supports my religious views. I will be voting for someone who supports the Constitution and respects the Bill of Rights.

Jackson, Portland,OR   November 26th, 2007 11:14 am ET

Wow, Does anyone else see how obvious Huckabee is campaigning in churches without even having to mention politics. They should take away the taz exempt status of every church that supports a candidate

Ian, Eastham MA   November 26th, 2007 11:14 am ET

Jason Vaughn, Oklahoma OK –

Congratulations, you proved what everyone already knows, there are far more fools in this world than geniuses.

Brandon, Tampa, FL   November 26th, 2007 10:59 am ET

Mike Huckabee is starting to truly frighten me. The fact that a fundamentalist Bible-thumping wackjob actually has a chance of being our next president is simply unnerving.

I wasn't even planning on supporting him beforehand (I'll miss the elections by a year), but now he's never getting any support from me.

Whyne   November 26th, 2007 10:50 am ET

I have been a Democrat eventhough I'm CCanadian. This time I really see the importance of the Moral Gauge that America needs as they try to set an example for the world. George Bush DICK Chaney and Donald Rumsfield and a few others have really messed up the world with their brand of what they think to be in the best interest of America. AMERICA let me inform you that YOU are not God's only gift to this world. Can you Imagine "God blss America" yet so evil?

I wish to support Mike Huckabee as the only honest person runnung ofr the presidency right now.

As an outsider looking in I'll make this prediction now. Mike Huckabee will be the next president of the United States.

Anyother; Republican or Democrat- it will be a continuation of georgebushism.

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 26th, 2007 10:41 am ET

Daniel, what's your mojo? All you seem to do is post links to a blog. Is that your blog? Do you want people to read it? Do you get paid for doing these things? I just don't understand why you post these links and not talk about the issue at hand. By the way, your (if they are so) blogs are false and not at all accurate.

Danny Casolaro Martinsburg, WV   November 26th, 2007 10:40 am ET

A wise man once said, "There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross".

Joseph H, Warner Robins, Georgia   November 26th, 2007 10:32 am ET

Personally, I don't have any problems with Mike Huckabee. His appeal to the far right base in the GOP won't translate into votes from the moderates, the so-called "mushy middle" of the voter bell curve. What concerns me as a fellow Christian is a man who vehemently believes we are in Iraq to protect our own country (and not our oil interests). Iraq had nothing, whatsoever, to do with 9/11. They do, however, have lots of oil that the US would love to "help" the Iraqis secure. Ron Paul really schooled Huckabee during the debates. Beware of Christians who are pro-Iraq War and are frothing at the mouths over attacking Iran while they have never served in the US military and have no children and granchildren serving. The correct term is a chickenhawk. Would the GOP leaders be so adamant with waging war if their children and grandchildren would be in harm's way and on the front lines – I think not. Ron Paul will bring our beloved troops home ASAP.

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 26th, 2007 10:26 am ET

Cable King Pittsburgh,

I think Ryan had meant the majority of those Americans who DO go to religious worship, go to Christian worship.

We all know most Americans don't worship anything other than money and the TV. (With the idea that worship is defined by something that takes up a majority of your time or thoughts).

David, brother, I don't think there is enough proof or evidence to justify our "self defense". I just don't see it. I suppose I could take Fox News or CNN News at face value, but I won't.

I do understand people died, and my heart breaks for the families. I just don't know who committed these acts. No one has claimed it. I tend to side with the "crazy foil hat citizens" (which are quite a few in number to my amazement). I'm not saying our country is wrong. I just don't think one can put the blame on a religion like you just have.

Linda - Albany, NY   November 26th, 2007 10:22 am ET

"Linda: Baptists have been singing Onward Christian Soldiers for many years but they don't teach their kids about suicide bombings in Sunday School"

Posted By Bob, Brookfield, WI

No, instead they teach religious intolerance and spew hate towards those that don't believe as they do, but I suppose you see them as being "justified?"

Please, save your argument for someone else.

Ricky J. Fico   November 26th, 2007 10:21 am ET

"A foundation is but the base and it is the collection of building blocks that creates what many should strive to ascend." RJF

If the highest office in the land promotes harmony, good will and worldly contentment while condemning greed, dishonesty and ignorance then it matters not to me what religion is adhered to….

Matthew, Charleston, WV   November 26th, 2007 10:16 am ET

The outrage over a Christain running for president is actually sort of funny. I get the feeling that the people that are saying this forgets that the majority of this country's founders were Christain, and the majority of this country's presidents were Christian, whether liberal and conservative.

Frankly, I respect Huckabee for wearing his faith on his sleeve. Too often we have politicians minimizing their core belief system when they think it will lose them a few votes. I apologize if I am incorrect, but I believe it was John Kerry in 2004 that said he personally was pro life, but was publicly pro abortion. I believe I would rather have someone leading me that leads from their personal belief system and what they think is right, rather than what they think will get them more votes. But alas, politics is filled with politicians.

SHUTUP,NOTABIGDEAL,STOPTHEHATE   November 26th, 2007 10:14 am ET

Obama attends a religious gathering on the campaign trail, its cool.
A former preacher turned politician attending and talking at a religious gathering on the campaign trail, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, and the tolerant left spits out the usual hate. Im no bible thumper, believe me, but grow up people alot of americans and I do mean alot, are christians who likes to sit around and talk about God. Its funny how its only a big deal when its not your guy/gal doing it, this is for both sides.

andy hillsdale nj   November 26th, 2007 10:14 am ET

to ryan of indianapolis… thank goodness america doesn't vote that way. most people vote the man or woman. not their religious beliefs. savv that for the darkness… more people died in the name of religion then for all other reasons combined. if you keep this ball rolling the dog will stop hunting……..

Tyson, New York   November 26th, 2007 10:13 am ET

Don't all the presidental candidates profess some sort of faith in a higher power? Why bash on Huckabee because he is preaching what he believes. He has a right, it is a free country. So what, he's a christian. If your an athiest, good for you. But unless you're going to run for president, quite complaining.

Independent in IA   November 26th, 2007 10:09 am ET

Moses this boy ain't!!! David he ain't!!! Solomon he ain't!!! The only thing this clown is…is psycho.

T   November 26th, 2007 10:09 am ET

some 85% of Americans claim to believe in God. No this should not be the only (or even the main) reason to vote for someone but it does matter. It tells you something about their character. Not that he is Christian but what he is actually saying.

Oh and to all those people who jump on all the religious people out there, who claim that Christians are close minded, that they stand on a soap box be careful you remarks basically put you in the same class. You risk being exposed for someone who is closed minded, standing on a soap box, and disrespecting others.

LOU, MIAMI FLORIDA   November 26th, 2007 10:08 am ET

Huckabee would strike Pakistan in case of "imminent threat"

IS THAT BEFORE PREACHING OR AFTER…

Steve, Landing, NJ   November 26th, 2007 10:08 am ET

It's funny how Huckabee can say something really good, like "looking down on people is usually worse than whatever you're looking down on those people for", and then follow it up with something crazy and terrifying, like "the only good in us is the God in us, not us".

Religion is a scary thing. It bypasses the rational thought process and encourages people to behave in ways that a thinking person wouldn't. Sometimes that's good, more often it's bad, and it's always creepy.

Huckabee's last comment is a great example of why overly religious people are not the right people to have in power. A rational humanist will make practical decisions based on achieving the best possible ends for everyone involved–Good for the country and the world. A truly religious person will stand on a (usually pointless) principle, even when it results in death and horror for all involved. And why? Either because 1: They don't want to go to Hell, 2: They want to go to Heaven, 3: They have an overactive desire to be viewed by their religious peers as "good", or 4: They are so uncomfortable with moral uncertainty that they need to consult an authority to make their decisions, and NEVER because 5: They want to do what is best for everyone involved, or 6: They have come to an independent conclusion about right and wrong.

Which of these do we want to see in a leader? 1-4 are weak, sad ways to live your life. 5-6 are what should motivate a leader, and they are entirely opposed to the basis of organized religion.

roger, conway sc   November 26th, 2007 10:08 am ET

I feel there is nothing wrong with being a christian and/or a politician being a christian BUT had it not been for Huckabee's run for president he would not have been in SC so he is using his religion to make political gains…I am not judging him the MAN up above will do that this is just my personal opinion…this is another reason we Dems feel that most republicans are hypocrites

Terry, El Paso, TX   November 26th, 2007 10:07 am ET

America is a polytheistic nation. We worship dozens of gods who are all named capital-G "God." The God of the Pope and the God of Ralph Reed are two different beings. They don't think alike, they don't sound alike, and they have very different ideas of how we should live. The God of gay-hating Episcopalians is very different from the God of gay-loving Episcopalians. The God of the Salvation Army is very different from the God of Catholic Irish terrorists who, in turn, is very different from the God of the Jews who, in turn, is very different from the God of Brigham Young.

Since no two Christians can agree on theology (20% of American Christians believe in reincarnation), they are voting based on religiosity – that is how devout the candidates are. To get into the religiosity contest, you must (1) be Republian (the party of Christ), (2) go to a church that meets on Sunday morning, and (3) say "Lord, Lord" over and over during speeches.

Christians are being hornswaggled by their leadership, which is, frankly, unworthy of them. The best Christians are in the pews, not the pulpit. Their evangelical mega-church leadership has been corrupted by their dreams of power, their love of large bundles of cash collected via toll-free numbers, their fondness for stretch limos, and their heroic vision of themselves as a righteous David facing the Liberal Goliath (Nancy Pelosi). They are misleading their flocks, persuading them to vote contrary to their own self interest because they have been seduced by status/power/money/fame.

Huckabee is speaking to the faithful in code, invoking the image of the Christian Warrior – the Crusader – who defies the heathen (Democrats) and marches off to the holy land (the voting booth) to vote for the most evangelical of the evangelical candidates: Huckabee.

There would be nothing wrong with this, I guess, if Huckabee was supporting policies that would promote the welfare of his voting flock. However, he not only opposes sin, abortion, and flagburning but he supports lower wages (free market "voodoo" economics), health care for children (medicaid), food for the poor (government nutrition programs), medicine for the sick (universal health insurance), and unwanted pregnancies (sex-education). The faithful are being led down the garden path. In the "Children's Crusade" of 1212, says Wikipedia, "Nicholas, a shepherd from Germany, led a group across the Alps and into Italy in the early spring of 1212. About 7,000 arrived in Genoa in late August. However, their plans didn't bear fruit when the waters failed to part as promised and the band broke up. Some left for home, others may have gone to Rome, while still others may have traveled down the Rhône to Marseille where they were probably sold into slavery. Few returned home and none reached the Holy Land."

Cable King Pittsburgh PA   November 26th, 2007 10:07 am ET

Ryan,

If you are going to fabricate facts, at least don't be a complete nut job – half of Americans don't even go to church.

When trying to make a point please at least tell the truth.

B McMann, Mesa, Az   November 26th, 2007 10:05 am ET

Why must you always affiliate God with war or soldiers. Pleeeease for God's sake stop using his name in vein or reference to war and armies. You can do better than this. If you are what you say you are then you would also know that God doesn't approve of his name being associated with these terms either. GOD IS LOVE.

andrew s. rostolder hillsdale nj   November 26th, 2007 10:03 am ET

how could any inteligent person vote for a jesus freak. these people believe the world was created a few weeks ago. gimmy a brake….fire and brim stone, armeggdon, the world has that now with the idiot admin. we have. let's start to change that situation by electing someone that cares what americans need not who they pray to. if jesus talks to you personally, do america a favor and sit this one out.

Ryan Indianapolis   November 26th, 2007 9:49 am ET

Dont really see a problem with this,,I am sure the left will be up in arms about it but hey 70 percent of americans go to christian churches therefore that is a majority ,,get over it.

Surrealist, Fort Myers, FL   November 26th, 2007 9:42 am ET

Nothing more exciting than a good religious and political debate. Way to go Huckleberr!! I can see you're healing the nation already!!! Oh, and the lady who listed all the good things about the bible…I'd like to add a few:

-It's great for elevating the front of my projector to hit the movie screen.

-Just the right size to prop my bedroom window.

B, Alden, NY   November 26th, 2007 9:39 am ET

If I get the chance I will vote for Mike Huckabee. If not, I will pray for whoever gets voted into office.

thehypocrit   November 26th, 2007 9:38 am ET

"What we look down on them for is not nearly as sinful a behavior as our act of looking down, somehow thinking that our standard of behavior was superior"

NO!! I'm melting, meeeeeelting….

David, Alabama   November 26th, 2007 9:31 am ET

To Ben Odessa, TX:

You've got to be kidding me. The Nation of Islam attacked us killing thousands of not just US citizens, but visitors from other countries. Are you saying we shouldn't defend ourselves. There's not a religious belief out there that says you shouldn't. As far as killing children, some have died in our attacks, but not near the number that under Sadam Hussein.

Jeff Manhattan, KS   November 26th, 2007 9:23 am ET

After reading some of these comments I am more worried about the general stupidity of my fellow Americans than a Christian becoming president.

Flagship, Hartford, CT   November 26th, 2007 9:20 am ET

It is on video tape that George Bush also said,
"God wants me to be President".

All should be be aware.

Paul Thompson   November 26th, 2007 9:12 am ET

Sure is a double standard.

And you can't prove that God exist,
but the critics always have.

Go Huck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jose Huertas, Fort Lee, VA   November 26th, 2007 9:07 am ET

This country was founded with God's direction, there is NOTHING WRONG with having a TRUE LEADER, a President that lead a our great nation and that he believe in GOD. Some Americans believe this is a joke, a plot or an incorrect mix of politics and religion. Some of us, Americans, that fight for this country, more than once recognize the need for God Fear men in leadership positions. We need must go back to basics.

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 26th, 2007 9:06 am ET

Henry.. actually if you studied up on religions you would find that Christianity is the only religion that does NOT believe in getting to heaven through good deeds.. so your belief that Christianity tells you a "certain" way to live is completely unfounded.

Posted By Mary, Seoul : November 26, 2007 1:54 am

I suggest you read James VERY closely. Faith alone is not suffice without action. Action (deeds) demonstrates that the faith is found willful and glorious.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   November 26th, 2007 8:49 am ET

To Mary of Seoul:

The study of Western history and civilisation has been my principal avocation for most of the last thirty years, and that perforce involves the study of Christianity. And, actually, prior to the so-called Reformation, "salvation through good works" was the accepted doctrine of the Catholic church. ("Salvation through faith," as well as the logical trap of predestination, was a development of Protestantism.) So yes, in Christianity, at least in the original Catholic version, "salvation" was at least in part a function of lifestyle.

To "Lover of God:" Perhaps Christ didn't advocate "forced conversions" of Jews and others, or the travesties of the Office of the Holy Inquisition, but people acting on behalf of the religion did. I'm not "bitter" about Christianity, I'm just cynical–what the religion preaches and what it's practitioners practice are very different things. No doubt Christianity has done some good over the last two thousand years, but it has also been the cause of more killing and suffering than anything else in my awareness.

Ad rem this discussion, my objection to Mr Huckabee isn't with respect to his profession of religion–he, like everyone else, is perfectly free to believe anything he likes–but with respect to the nature of the religion. Christianity has been used–or, I suppose some might say, abused–too much over the centuries for me to trust it or its most fervid adherents.

Jason Vaughn, Oklahoma OK   November 26th, 2007 8:42 am ET

All these insenitve comments regarding Huckabee's role as a minister illuminates just how intolerant liberals are!

For all the those out there who are products of Pulbic Education, I think a course in basic Western Civilization is nessacary.

The Bible is THE most prtinted book in history.

The Bible has been translated into MORE languages than any other book.

The Bible WAS taught in public until the 1960's.

NO other book has had more influence on history than the Bible.

All who find it difficult to have a president who is a minister need to get a grip; and come to an understanding that by 2020 there may be two billion Christians on this planet.

What about Mike's right to free excercise of religion?

Don't worry, you'll be seeing more of Mike!

Jim in Orlando, FL   November 26th, 2007 8:42 am ET

So Huckabee used to be a salesman for a book that advocated genocide, slavery and oppression of women, and he still very much believes in the book. That's not a plus in my book.

Posted By Brian, Somerset, NJ : November 25, 2007 9:04 pm

How Absurd !! But assuming it is as you say Brian, and Huckabee is an advocate for such things, then poor you !! You are compelled to live in a country founded by those who were agents for such mayhem ! They aren't called "cross"hairs for nothing, huh ? Eejit.

C. MacLean, Raleigh, NC   November 26th, 2007 8:39 am ET

Perhaps he isn't as familiar with the New Testament as he claims – whatever happened to "render unto Caeser what is Caeser's…"?

We have separation of church and state in this country for a reason. If Huckabee, or any of the rest of the candidates, want to speak in church, or synagogue, or under a full moon, fine, but the microphones and cameras don't belong.

Personal religious beliefs are just that: personal. Attempts to show that one is a "good christian" or a "good" anything are about pandering, not character, and certainly not about appropriate governing.

Jesus is not running for president.

JIM DAYTON,OHIO   November 26th, 2007 8:38 am ET

WE SURE DO NOT NEED A BIBLE THUMPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE.I WOULD RATHER GO WITH RUDY HE DRESSES IN DRAG,AN PAT ROBINSON LIKES HIM. I LIKE HILLERY WE NEED A CHANGE.

AJ; Montpelier, VT   November 26th, 2007 7:59 am ET

He needs to go back to Ark., get out of politics and go back to what he does best – spouting hate, bigotry and the other "Chrisitian" values. This type of person has no buiness in government.

Jack, Fort Myers, FL   November 26th, 2007 7:22 am ET

I guess because he was once ordained–that makes him not only endorsed by Chuck Norris, and the wrestler…but God as well.

D. Driskill, Little Rock, Arkansas   November 26th, 2007 6:01 am ET

As an Arkansan all I can say is we thank god everyday since he left the office of governor. Check his record carfully I urge all of you he is the most Bias Prejudical Devisive Governor we ever had.

Jim, Columbus, GA   November 26th, 2007 5:40 am ET

U DA MAN Huckee!!

Don't flip flop like the Defeatocrat party and continue to stand by your convictions!

Scoff all you want naysayers — But here is an undinable Truth …

One day everybody will get know if their choice was right – be it the athiest nothing, the moon idol "Allah", or Jesus –

I'm betting my soul on Jesus Christ –

You "intels" need to think about that – eternity is a long time to be wrong

Pick Liberman as your VP and you'll smoke em!

Maeve   November 26th, 2007 5:33 am ET

It takes a real stretch of the imagination to think Huckabee will win the republican nomination, much less win the presidency. In addition, he is neither serving in any other political office now, nor running for any other political office.

As such, what he says from behind a pulpit should be taken for just what it is: sermonizing.

Shrug and yawn.

The only striking thing about his statements is that they sound vaguely reminiscent of Poppa Bush's "thousand points of light" call to action.

Shrug and yawn again.

Ben, Odessa, TX   November 26th, 2007 5:28 am ET

This is even more frightening that when Bush prayed to Jesus to help him govern the country. Did Jesus tell him to go ahead and kill thousands of Iraqi children in that "conversation"? What about the Christian song "Jesus Loves the Little Children?" I guess that excludes little brown ones in the Middle East. Red, yellow, black, white.. oops… no brown? Bush probably took that as his opening to bomb the hell out of those innocent little kids. Its probably easy to sleep at night when you are a president without a soul.

AnaHadWolves, Philadelphia, PA, USA   November 26th, 2007 5:16 am ET

@ Steve, Rumford Rhode Island:

Steve, no one really cares what a person's PERSONAL beliefs are; we DO care, however, if those personal beliefs overshadow a public career.

I want ethical, moral and law-abiding people as leaders; being a Christian doesn't necessarily guarantee that. Look at Jim and Tammy Faye, Oral Roberts, Jr, Jimmy Swaggart, thousands of Roman Catholic priests and God knows how many more!

If Huckabee wants to be a missionary for Christ, good for him; if he wants to be the President of the US AND a missionary for Christ, bad for us. We do NOT need a theocracy instead of a Republic. Period.

Jake, Madison   November 26th, 2007 4:06 am ET

Wow.

I cannot believe people still believe in seperation of church and state.

As for this pastor for president thing. There is a great article on
http://www.shallsetyoufree.com in the "In The News" section.

Some College Kid, Cary NC   November 26th, 2007 3:06 am ET

Oh no, Huckabee went to a church and preached, what a jerk he must be looking for votes! Oh wait, then we read the article and realize that he use to be a minister. So what, if he loves God? That is wonderful for him, if he follows God doubly so. A better standard to judge him on however, would be where he stands on relevant issues and if he acts with integrity.
William Courtland: Spell check, thank you.

PAUL PROVIDENCE RI   November 26th, 2007 3:04 am ET

Separation of church and state, remember this? I am sick of people bring religion into politics. Religion is a private matter.

Mary, Seoul   November 26th, 2007 1:54 am ET

Henry.. actually if you studied up on religions you would find that Christianity is the only religion that does NOT believe in getting to heaven through good deeds.. so your belief that Christianity tells you a "certain" way to live is completely unfounded.

Steve, Casper, WY   November 26th, 2007 1:09 am ET

Another presidential candidate who loves sin because it gives him sinners to hate. Disgusting.

TJ, Lewisville, AR   November 26th, 2007 1:00 am ET

This is awful. Huckabee would not have been extended the invitation to preach at this church if he wasn't running for President. I expect that he wouldn't have accepted either. I think the fact that Huckabee is touring the country preaching while running for President is deplorable. It's the equivalent of having casual sex while trying to save the world from sexually transmitted diseases.

The clergy is a very respectable profession, it is horrible that it is being exploited for votes.

Dismayed in Eugene OR   November 26th, 2007 12:35 am ET

Danger! Danger! Gov Huckabee is preaching! Can you imagine if this was a story about Romney doing the preaching? He'd be raked through the coals on this one. Alarms would be going off, red flags everywhere. But when a Southern Baptist minister preaches, it's acceptable. Where's the double-standard?

nameless   November 26th, 2007 12:19 am ET

May be he need to know I know where to go if I need God!

chris, Chicago, IL   November 25th, 2007 11:40 pm ET

Obama admits to inhaling, but will this guy admit to Worshipping a Roman Empirical Governor /SLASH/ Ancient Historical Warmonger?

Probably not.

http://www.golden-lamp.com

Jen, San Diego, CA   November 25th, 2007 11:10 pm ET

You dummy. He was mistakenly referred to a Governor HuckLEbee.

And who really cares if Obama inhaled? At least he's telling the truth, unlike that joker in Arkansas who lies to our faces about being a fiscal conservative.

Go Hillary, because there just isn't anyone better.

chris, highland lakes, nj   November 25th, 2007 11:07 pm ET

I do not want to mean. I do not want to be biased. I like what Huckabee has to say, but he does not come close to Ron Paul. Just research him. Thats all I have to say

Lover of God and Christ and mankind   November 25th, 2007 11:02 pm ET

Henry Miller, clearly you do not understand what Christianity is all about. Neither God nor Christ nor true followers of Christ ever implied that they would or could shove their way down anyone's throat. God/Christ and some (but not all Christians) know it is a matter of choice. Someone/something has caused you to be bitter about Christ but guess what…He loves you anyway. Many Christians don't live/behave as they should but you shouldn't judge Christ as you do people. Christ is truly who he said he is and worthy of worship. Read the book of John and ask God to help you to understand the truth. If you really want to know the truth and you seek for God with all your heart then you will find out what the truth is…and you will have true peace. One other thing-Humanism is a religion too, but Christianity is by far better. Don't let wolves in sheeps clothing deter you from seeking the true Lamb of God.

Brad, from the great state of Texas   November 25th, 2007 10:38 pm ET

Hey Brian, have you ever actually read that book? It has been the spiritual foundation for billions of people for thousands of years, but you choose to focus on the negatives (yes, the Bible has been used to justify evil deeds by evil individuals who have twisted the words around). Also, you choose to ignore the fact that Christians give more of their time and money to charity than non-Christians in this country. Maybe you haven't noticed this because you're too wrapped up in your materialistic world.

You also said "that's not a plus in my book." What would that happen to be–the Anarchist Cookbook? A little advice: use some common sense before you regurgitate hateful, ill-informed filth.

Bob, Brookfield, WI   November 25th, 2007 10:31 pm ET

Linda: Baptists have been singing Onward Christian Soldiers for many years but they don't teach their kids about suicide bombings in Sunday School

ashley, foxworth, ms   November 25th, 2007 10:30 pm ET

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/7000_Page2.html
Politico :Huckabee rivals unearth ethics complaints
By: Kenneth P. Vogel

The ethics commission fined Huckabee $1,000 for failing to report that he paid himself $14,000 from his 1992 U.S. Senate campaign and $43,000 from his 1994 lieutenant governor's campaign.

The latter payment — for the use of his eight-seat, twin-engine plane — was reported in a cryptic way that didn’t identify Huckabee and his wife as the owners of the plane.
There is much more to this story click on link above.

E,   November 25th, 2007 10:22 pm ET

Im sorry, but are we trying to decide on a minister or a president?!
Either I feel that this article communicates the actions of a person who blatantly intends to violate the notion of the separation of church and state because I view things objectively or I feel this way because I'm not a christian.

People who do things like this should be prohibited from running for public offices…. Appealing to the sheeples.

I can't wait to see the day when humanity is over religion.

Mark Golembiowski, Chicago, IL   November 25th, 2007 10:21 pm ET

Soldiers for God … isn't that what Al Quaida and the Taliban are looking for as well?? Just what we need, another President to lead a great crusade!

Linda - Albany, NY   November 25th, 2007 10:15 pm ET

"God is still looking for good soldiers, good soldiers for Christ," he told the congregation in Irmo. "Every single person here is a soldier that God needs in his army. He is just waiting on us to say here am I, send me."

Isn't this similar to Osama Bin Laden's advice to the taliban?

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   November 25th, 2007 10:01 pm ET

To Jim Hamilton of Fort Wayne Indiana:

"On the whole I would rather befriend a Christian than someone with no foundation of principles."

This seems to suggest that you believe it is impossible to be principled without accepting a religion. Not only is this an arrogant, offensive, assertion, it is also demonstrably wrong. It's not at all difficult to make a case that principles based entirely on fear of a god are of questionable sincerity.

Newt G. Chicago Ill   November 25th, 2007 9:50 pm ET

"I always try to remind people that there is a place for politics, but when I come to church, it's to worship,"

What is missing from the quote:
Yet I think Politics belongs in church. That is why I am here in South Carolina in your Church today. To pander to you on such a personal level that you will then vote for me. I am going to ignore all common sense that tells me that I should state that I am a man of Faith and leave it at that.
No wait I will go on:
"Any time we ever look down on somebody for whatever reason, that's the sin," he said. "What we look down on them for is not nearly as sinful a behavior as our act of looking down, somehow thinking that our standard of behavior was superior to theirs and not understanding that neither our nor their standard of behavior matches up to His, because His is the only behavior that ever really hit it right on the mark." Here I show that I draw near HIM with my words but my actions are far from HIM. Why else would I make such a statement when I have just stated that Mitt Romney is this and Rudy Guiliani is that and I am the better person. They are heathens….
Baptist the Jihadist of the Christian right.

Ryan, St. Paul, MN   November 25th, 2007 9:43 pm ET

The mistake wasn't "Governor"… it was "Hucklebee" instead of "Huckabee"

Chrristian, North Carolina   November 25th, 2007 9:40 pm ET

Amen to Christian, Richmond, VA

Seka, Nashville, TN   November 25th, 2007 9:37 pm ET

didn't the christian crusades end like 700 years ago? another fruitcake perverting religion. stick to infecting your congregation with your poison, and not this entire nation.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   November 25th, 2007 9:36 pm ET

Christianity is, for the most part, a top-down, authoritarian, institution that presumes to tell people how to run their lives and, worse, what they are required to believe. Any individual who is an active, willing, participant of an institution of such profound philosophical arrogance is, as far as I'm concerned, completely unacceptable as President. Such an individual has already demonstrated a capacity and willingness, to cram his, and his institution's, philosophies down everyone else's throats–"for their own good," of course.

Another thing that bothers me is that with people who sincerely accept religion, you can never be sure whether their decisions are intended to benefit the people they serve, or the god they serve–and those two masters might or might not be served simultaneously.

jan, Marysville, WA   November 25th, 2007 9:32 pm ET

Huckabee talks about Jesus, not politics…

It was Sunday, he was preaching a sermon at church…should he be talking politics?
Demonstrates he is capeable of leaving the secular out of the pulpit. His record demonstrates his ability of keeping the pulpit out of politics.

Good report, CNN.

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 25th, 2007 9:30 pm ET

That's great and all you accept Jesus. I think everyone should. However, it needs to be made clear you DO NOT follow his ways by WAR and professing in your campaign that you will ATTACK another country. Self defense is what it is. Going across the world and hurting others for a possible lie isn't what we need. If the Lord accepts you, teach in the Churches, but let another run the affairs of the country.

Cable King Pittsburgh PA   November 25th, 2007 9:29 pm ET

Huckabee's a ho.

Raleigh NC   November 25th, 2007 9:23 pm ET

The article states he was mistakenly referred to as "Governor". Actually, since he was Governor of Ark., I believe this is correct. Officials are generally referred to by the highest title previously achieved.

Chad Rock Hill, SC   November 25th, 2007 9:22 pm ET

Huckabee seems to be more in line with what I'm looking for as a candidate. I could care less about him being a preacher or whatever … I want someone that I would feel comfortable raising my kids … which is an extremely high standard for me.

As all the candidates are passing through SC I will try to at least attend one Huckabee speech and hope I find the candidate that meets my standards as closely as possible.

Rex, Toledo, Ohio   November 25th, 2007 9:20 pm ET

"God is still looking for good soldiers"

Here we go again…..

Christian, Richmond, VA   November 25th, 2007 9:19 pm ET

"'God is still looking for good soldiers,….'

So is Pentagon!

Does God offer any sign-up bonuses?"

Yes, it's called eternal life. Stop taking things out of context.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   November 25th, 2007 9:15 pm ET

Gee whiz people! if this guy needs to pander to Christians, let him. I don't see anyone complaining when Barack goes to a Baptist church in Harlem, or Hillary goes to a Chinese restaurant.

Jim Hamilton Fort Wayne Indiana   November 25th, 2007 9:10 pm ET

Have we previously had Presidents with the credentials of being a minister or were raised in the home of a minister. Yes we have — James Garfield and Woodrow Wilson. So what is wrong with a President today being a minister of the faith? Better than a drug user (Obama), forgetful of the facts when most needed (Clinton), wafflers on issues (Guiliani and Romney also Clinton). On the whole I would rather befriend a Christian than someone with no foundation of principles.

Mir   November 25th, 2007 9:08 pm ET

I hope oneday the great citizens of the USA will not select anyone on the religious belief or love of army and war. What we are ordering the rest of the world to do should be done by us first. Why does Christ need an Army of God? Christ does not want to bomb anyone neither God. The gap of these relegious belief could be a past by now if US wanted.

Chas, Marysville, WA   November 25th, 2007 9:05 pm ET

Does God offer any sign-up bonuses?

Go to the Book He authored…Better bonuses cannot be found.
JFK and others have had very strong religious views which equiped them for the task of leading this country.

Brian, Somerset, NJ   November 25th, 2007 9:04 pm ET

So Huckabee used to be a salesman for a book that advocated genocide, slavery and oppression of women, and he still very much believes in the book. That's not a plus in my book.

Newt G. Chicago, ILL   November 25th, 2007 9:01 pm ET

Pretty good comments from Mike Huckabee. I like his comments a lot. I think he would make a great minister. He should consider running for Minister. I hear the Baptist pay their Ministers well.

Daniel, NY   November 25th, 2007 8:56 pm ET

Huckabee is now ranked THIRD in these just updated detailed rankings and analysis of where the Republican presidential race stands today — a great showing for the former AK governor, though he still remains clearly behind Romney and Giuliani.

William Courtland, Waterford, Ontario   November 25th, 2007 8:49 pm ET

God verses Einstein

"Your such a little Einstein!"

The intelligent reply is: "please stop calling me names."

"Oh my…"

Please do not take names in vain, and do not possess people, as you'll force them to require an exorism.

Who created and now uses the word 'goddess' when deity universally suffices.

God is an earthly created, and named deity; God possibly existed as an individual, yet, no one named Goddess ever did? Why allow such confusion?

People were once assumed to be God-like, then people were seen as Christ-like(so canonized); if Buddha and many other intelligent sols have passed into our past and have had their names locked into legend, then: maybe we should stop worshipping cast and graven idols found hung on a cross, and start accepting a universal truth of and all-and-in-everyone-possible humanitarian state.

'Thank times passage:' that no one can carve an true idol of God, for no one knows what HE might have looked like; even thou Michelangelo did try.

David - Portland, Oregon   November 25th, 2007 8:39 pm ET

When Bill (blue dress) Clinton or any other liberal candidate gives a Sunday morning church sermon it is considered a show of their faith. When Mike Huckabee converses within a church on Sunday morning it is considered a violation between church and state to non-believers. Your double standards are showing….

Z, St. Louis, MO   November 25th, 2007 8:18 pm ET

That makes me want to projectile
vomit. He can belive all the fairy
tales he wants.But I sure dont want my
president, with access to nuclear
weapons, to think some magical ghost in the sky will rescue him if things go wrong as long as he annhialate the
"bad guys".It's going to take years to recover from the current regime that
takes council from a fairy story
charcter.

Dan, TX   November 25th, 2007 8:15 pm ET

I think Hucakbee is a good guy. I would vote for Huckabee over Clinton. But I'd prefer Obama.

Steve, Rumford Rhode Island   November 25th, 2007 8:06 pm ET

Peter, it's so unbearably evident your biased against anyone advocating the existence of God and his place in politics. Your presupposing that Jesus has no place in politics. Does he have any place in Politics? Well, first we need to define what needs to be accomplished in politics and government for the well-being of everyone in this country. I'm pretty confident that once that is done, Mr Huckabee doesn't look so bad. In fact, his record should not be overlooked, which you seem to easily do. Ok, he was a Pastor, so what? And your not? Next?

Brooklyn, NY   November 25th, 2007 8:03 pm ET

"as governor as Arkansas"???

MS Johnson City, TN   November 25th, 2007 7:52 pm ET

"God is still looking for good soldiers,…."

So is Pentagon!

Does God offer any sign-up bonuses?

Charles, NY   November 25th, 2007 7:45 pm ET

Jesus and not politics? Does anybody seriously think this isn't a political ploy?

Andrew, NJ   November 25th, 2007 7:28 pm ET

this guy needs to be kept as far away from the white house as possible. We don't need a religious nutjob like him preaching from the white house

Christian, Tampa FL   November 25th, 2007 7:16 pm ET

I like what he had to say in the second sermon. As a Christian, I get frustrated with the "holier-than-thou" types in my religion who are just as flawed as everyone else.

Greg Houston Tx   November 25th, 2007 7:14 pm ET

You can bet a privileged little turd like Romney has more than a few youthful indiscretions and considers this a dangerous precedent.

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