November 29, 2007
Posted: 01:59 PM ET

Paul is apparently spending serious money on direct mail in South Carolina.

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – Ron Paul and his grassroots supporters may dominate the Internet, but in South Carolina, the Texas congressman is pretty close to dominating the snail mail game as well.

Well-funded former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who has dropped at least seven mail pieces as counted by CNN, seems to have sent out more direct mail than any other candidate in this early primary state. But in recent weeks the Paul campaign has sent out at least five very large, very polished pieces of mail to potential GOP primary voters.

One of them is a 12-page mailer, already released in New Hampshire, that folds out to be nearly three feet long.

All of the South Carolina mailings go straight for the jugular on issues important to the Republican base: abortion, illegal immigration, social security, and fiscal responsibility. (Paul's mail also delves into the libertarian's favorite topic – defending the Constitution.)

His abortion mailer features a large photo of a smiling baby and reads: "Dr. Ron Paul is more than pro-life. He is the essence of all that it stands for." The illegal immigration brochure pledges "to end immigration nonsense" and fight "amnesty." His economy mailer touts his record fighting "the tax and spend crowd" in Washington.

But the detailed, fold-out mailings seem to carefully avoid the one position that truly puts him at odds with his Republican rivals: his repeated calls to immediately remove U.S. combat forces from Iraq.

The 12-page Paul mailer promises "protection and peace without nation building" but avoids any reference to Iraq, hinting that the campaign—at least in paid media—may be reluctant to bring up the congressman’s stance on Iraq in a state where support for the war remains relatively strong.

– CNN South Carolina Producer Peter Hamby

Filed under: Ron Paul • South Carolina


Mike   January 19th, 2008 10:39 am ET

Charles,

Don't get such a big head on your shoulders pal. Everyone Knows about stereotyping. Let me put this in terms that you might understand. Hmm.. so if you are a women you would vote for Hilary, or if you are black then vote for Obama, or if you or a Morman vote for Romney and so on. This guy has his facts distorted with run a way conspriacy theories, which do not reflect the majority of us Ron Paul supproters. If you would like to debate intelligently on issues drop me a line here instead of bashing us.

Mike

Marilyn Townsend   January 18th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

delivered, that is!

Marilyn Townsend   January 18th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Dr. Ron Paul has guts and says what he believes, not what people want to hear. And besides that, he is from my home town and delived two of my babies. I don't have a better reason than that to vote for any of the other bozos.

kent r. corral,m.d.   January 16th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

In response to reply of Mr. Cobb: It should be recalled that a large portion of our population consider a fetus to be a living human., not property. So in the case of abortion the human rights as delinated in the Declaration of Independence are being denied. This is an area the states should be allowed to regulate. This is truly an interaction between 2 distinct individuals, not between a citizen(the mother) and her property(the baby).KRC

Lourie Salley, Salley, SC   December 14th, 2007 10:09 pm ET

I retired as a LtCol. from the USMCR. I spent 8 years on active duty. My son was medically retired from the USMC.My father was a Ranger in Korea, his father was in WWI, his father fought under General Wheeler during the Spanish American War, and his father, fought under General Wheeler, against the Yankees.We have a tradition of military service, and my entire family is supporting Ron Paul.It is one thing, to be "anti-war" in theory. It is another thing, to be "anti-war" in practice. I know of no soldier, or Marine, that has seen combat, who loves war.Romney, Thompson, and McCain have lost points, because they have insulted South Carolinians, and other Southrons, on the issue of the Confederate Battle Flag.The entire dynamics of the Republican primary has changed in Dixie.

pat r   December 7th, 2007 8:20 pm ET

Interest in Paul for 2008 is a reminder of why so many were Perot supporters in 1992.

Watching America crumble is not a pretty sight when it can be avoided.

What the father didn't do, the son has accomplished with great fanfare – the plundering of America – with rarely a compassionate reference to the path of destruction left in his path.

Paul may not have charts but his spirit invokes the same spirit Perot did, and why so many departed for what seemed like the only hope left for recovery.

Watching America today is like watching deja vu, just 16 years later.

AlabamaWildMan, Mt Juliet TN   December 2nd, 2007 11:24 pm ET

"…Dr. Paul is the one, true choice for America…"

AHhhhhh…
Someone Gets it ! !!

Go RON PAUL ! !!

Mick Russom, Redwood City, CA   December 2nd, 2007 6:43 pm ET

Ron Paul, last hope for america. Choose him, or choose a lower standard of living.

David MTL Ca   December 2nd, 2007 11:52 am ET

libertarians favourite idea defending the constitution?
I thought that w3as every AMerican's wish

how quaint an Idea that Americans don't care about the constitution any more

you guys must be smoking some bad stuff
It is high time America become free instead of bragging and loud mouthing about it it is time to actually be free
And what do you know when freedoms on the table Americans begin to shy away from it
what does that say About Americans today
it says they are not worthy to be the boot lickers of the founding fathers thats what it says about Americans today

David MTL Ca   December 2nd, 2007 11:42 am ET

The only conservative that stands tall enough to win the elections any other conservative vote is akin to flushing the conservative party down the toilet in 2008

Alan, St Louis MO   December 2nd, 2007 10:32 am ET

It's amusing to see CNN grudgingly increasing its coverage of Dr Paul's campaign. This piece actually shows some depth. Good practice for when he owns the primaries.

Bob Miller, Little Rock, AR   December 2nd, 2007 7:16 am ET

What I'm finding, having read this entire thread, is that the people who have an issue with Ron's positions, truly misunderstand what those positions are. And so it gives me hope that with time and a little public education our man will do well. :) What concerns me most is this tendency for some Americans to go for presentation over substance. We KNOW Ron comes across quirky. He's 2 years older than Reagan was when he was elected, but we don't care about that. The man is educated and has a plan. He's only eccentric insomuch that many Americans simply do not understand complicated issues, like central banking. The media is somehow obsessed with this idea that liking Ron Paul isn't cool, and they loathe to admit they might have been wrong.

vtercell, just wanderin' around in America   December 2nd, 2007 2:02 am ET

Golly, I had no idea that Abe Lincoln had been "assinated". I guess that'd make him one of the original "Log Cabin Republicans".

Charles in Salt Lake City, Utah   December 1st, 2007 10:09 pm ET

Ah… thank you, thank you Douglas Bickford of K.Falls, Oregon. You are like a gift from God. Poor Sarah of San Diego almost had me convinced that Ron Paul supporters were capable of coherent discourse and intelligent commentary, and then along you came!

Yes Sarah, these poor souls do have a right to their opinions — but I really don't want them influencing how our government makes its decisions, do you?

But the larger question remains: Is Mr. Paul one of them as well, or not? I'd really like to know.

douglas bickford k.falls oregon   December 1st, 2007 5:37 pm ET

rON PAUL will be the NEXT PRESIDENT I guarantee it! he has been chosen by the Great Spirit/Creator of the Universe. He basically will be the savior of the planet.
I believe all elections have been rigged since Honest Abe was assinated in 1865 by the US GOVERNMENT! google search DOUGLAS BICKFORDTRUTHTV for TOTAL TRUTH ABOUT HOW CORRUPT OVER government really IS!

they COMMITTED 911 to THE WORLD to put us IN FEAR OF MUSLIMS and anyone else of color. their ULTIMATE GOAL is to CAUSE WW3 by NUKING IRAN, IRAQ and Syria!

ron paul KNOWS ALL THIS but CAN'T REALLY SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE HE KNOWS THEY WILL ASSINATE HIM JUST LIKE JFK when he NIXED THE PLANS TO DO a 911 FALSE FLAG OPERATION in 1962 during the CUBAN MISSLE CRISIS!

DOUGLAS BICKFORD
greatspiritisalive@gmail.com

Sarah, San Diego CA   December 1st, 2007 2:06 pm ET

Charles in Salt Lake City:

Ron Paul is actually NOT a "hard core Libertarian." He is a libertarian Republican. He was still a registered Republican when he ran under the Libertarian ticket for Presidency in 1988. It's not "extremism" he stands for so much as a return to our original standards of government.

Also, if your biggest concern about Dr. Paul is who supports him, then you should be a pretty enthusiastic supporter, yourself! Candidates have little control over their supporters. Some fringe groups have latched onto the congressman because of his "small government" ideals – no more, no less. Paul believes in terrorism, he believes that terrorists attacked us. He just doesn't believe (rightly, I think) that we can fight terrorism by ravaging the country we believe the leader of terrorists to be in.

Besides, as crazy or disrespectful as they might seem, they're exercising their Constitutional right – free speech. What right does Paul (or any of us) have to call them second-class for that? The people of America are allowed to believe whatever they want to believe. Why should Paul discount the support of honest Americans? (Yes, honest. They honestly believe they are fighting for the truth.) But anyway, long story short: both 9/11 conspiracy theorists and so called "white supremacists" have a history of believing that "Big Brother is watching." Ron Paul's message of limited government power appeals a lot to them.

Thing is, it also appeals a lot to me, and a good many others…

Charles in Salt Lake City, UT   December 1st, 2007 12:40 pm ET

For the sake of clarity, I'd like to state flatly why so many of us still continue to regard Ron Paul and his movement as a "fringe" candidacy:

Ron Paul is known as being a die-hard Libertarian, of course. Nothing so much wrong with that, other than the naiveté that usually accompanies extremism in any form. Many Libertarian principles, applied appropriately, have great value – but carry them too far and you create an unrealistic isolationism that cannot survive or cope in a modern world. His approach to many issues is simply unrealistic.

But the biggest concern – and one which Mr. Paul continually refuses to respond to – is the association of his movement and support it draws from the “conspiracy theory” fringe of nuts and fruitcakes who believe that a vast global conspiracy has been in place for hundreds of years to create a “new world order” that will enslave all true “patriots”, and that 9-11 was an inside job crafted by evil “insiders” in the U.S. government for nefarious purposes of their own. Idiotic stuff, naturally – but it remains the nuts and bolts of Ron Paul’s original base of support. These “true believers” are convinced that Paul is one of them (and he well might be; he won’t say), and they delight in interpreting every statement and nuance of his to fit their own paranoid, narcissistic worldview.

– And Mr. Paul’s answer to the reality of this situation is… complete silence. He is wise enough to realize that much of the growth from followers he is now attracting would be appalled to be thought of as having any part of such nonsense, but at the same time he wants to hold on to the core of his original supporters who have to subscribe to fairy-tale conspiracies to give meaning to their existence.

Ron Paul’s followers are continually extolling his perceived qualities of forthrightness and honesty. If Ron Paul if genuinely forthright and honest, he would set the record straight regarding his true opinion regarding his conspiracy theory advocating supporters.

dana, los angeles, ca   December 1st, 2007 9:24 am ET

I really didn't appreciate how some of your pundits were so dismissive of Ron Paul after the youtube debates. One in particular when asked about Paul's viability shrugged like Paul was a flea to be flicked away. I find this behavior to be unbecoming of a journalist. The problem for Paul is the media not his message. I thought like public education the media were supposed to be the champions of justice and equal opportunity. I am a fairly liberal feminist middle class democrate and I changed my voter registration just so I could vote for Paul in my state's primary. Ron Paul is a terrific candidate for the independently minded and should get equal time and consideration.

Woking, UK   December 1st, 2007 7:41 am ET

I wish we had an honest politician in the UK. Go Ron Paul.

SS Arizona   November 30th, 2007 7:37 pm ET

All of your polls indicate that Ron Paul was the clear winner of the Republican Debate on 11/28/07 – why is it that you do not have a story pertaining to this information?
The polls were conducted on your site.
Would this be called CNN Corporate Censorship?

Andrew, Haslett, MI   November 30th, 2007 1:44 pm ET

So, if Dr. Paul is so against big government and Big Brother, how come he didn't bother to vote for or against H.R. 1955. Btw, H.R. 1955 will quiet any type of revolution (peaceful or otherwise) in the United States of America forever. Google H.R. 1955 if you don’t believe me.

Posted By Buddy, San Jose, CA : November 29, 2007 7:28 pm

I do believe you, Buddy. The reason he was not in Washington to vote on this bill is because he was in New Hampshire putting his name on the ballot. Since we're looking at votes, who DID vote against this? Our old pal, Dennis Kucinich, the man who also voted against the war and against the Patriot Act. I'm sure if Dr. Paul were in Washington, he would have voted the same way. At least there are a few in the House who recognize genuine threats to our liberty for what they are. Where is this bill now?

Oh yes, in the Senate and in committee. Who sits on this committee?

Your friend and mine: Barack Obama. Hmmm, I wonder which way he will vote?

TO AZ   November 30th, 2007 1:00 pm ET

What a pathetic remark:
{ avoid any reference on Iraq )
Ron Paul has been clear about were he stands on the Iraq war and withdrawing the troops.
GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!
Ron Paul will answer any question straight forward and tell you like it is, unlike all the other candidates that dodge questions or withdraw their remark!
Ron Paul or God help us all!

Mike, Fox River Grove, IL   November 30th, 2007 12:39 pm ET

Deployed Solider, first thank you for what you are doing for your nation. Just because people don't support the war does NOT mean we don't support the soldiers.

Now that being said some clarifications of your comments:

Quote: *He also wants to abolish the National Board of Education and the National Federal Reserve, Pull out of the UN, NATO, WTO, and NAFTA, and leave the Middle East in a power vacumn.*

Yes, he wants to pull us out of those economic controlling entities, but he does not want to "leave a vacuum." What he wants to do is through trade, negotiations, etc. is to work with other nations in the Middle East (and other places) not to be the "world police" nor for the USA to be the pillar supporting such groups (like the UN). Money talks and nations listen, especially to a nation that has and spends as much as the USA does. The Federal Reserve is illegal in how it now operates and actually such a reserve was shot down three times in US history before it was formed. He believes that a Federal Board of Ed cannot properly administrate over what are local and state issues, that being schools and their financing.

Quote: *He also wants to completely scrap the American Dollar and eliminate government oversight of trade companies. Can anyone say Monopoly Market?*

Wrong again. Right now we have a monopoly and oligopoly market. Look at how the oil companies and OPEC control every aspect of pricing, how Microsoft exists as it does, how the car manufacturers work together to surpress innovation only to their wants and needs. The market will only thrive with renewed competition. And he does NOT want to scrap the dollar he wants to make it real. Right now it's paper, meaningless, nothing to back it up. There are more Euros in the world than Dollars (fact) and if the oil companies shift to Euros our economy will collapse, because that makes the Euro piece of paper worth more than the Dollar piece of paper because there are more in circulation and existence. But if you back the Dollar again with Gold, Silver, and Platinum you'll have something tangible that every nation will work with, trade in, and want to actually HAVE.

Quote: *So go ahead, vote for an isolationist maniac who wants to ruin our markets with his crazed 'gold standard' ideals.*

He isn't an isolationist at all. He wants to work with through trade and treaties other nations on a one-to-one basis. Not make false alliances or support economic means that would damage the USA.

Quote: *But don't press your false advertising and inane ideology on me.*

Nobody is doing anything, you can most definitely vote for whom you want. I would give Ron Paul another look and think about what's being said.

Anonymous   November 30th, 2007 12:15 pm ET

Some idiot at my work called Dr. Paul a racist? Whats with that?? Had to be the dumbest thing i heard all week. Dr. Paul is no racist. he has nothing to do with white supremacist. Join the revolution or get out the way. Ron Paul 08′
Peace to you all

Carrie K. Oklahoma City, OK   November 30th, 2007 10:22 am ET

John McCain has been quoted as saying that Ron Paul is "the only honest man in Washington" prior to McCain's decision to campaign for the presidency. Dr. Paul's rising popularity is a reflection of the will of Americans. Big government has got to go. It's time to get back to the basics of taking care of America and her Constitution. By the way, Ron Paul is a Republican.

Deployed Soldier, Ft. Lewis, WA   November 30th, 2007 6:18 am ET

Ok, so he has good stances on abortion and the war.

He also wants to abolish the National Board of Education and the National Federal Reserve, Pull out of the UN, NATO, WTO, and NAFTA, and leave the Middle East in a power vacumn.

He also wants to completely scrap the American Dollar and eliminate government oversight of trade companies. Can anyone say Monopoly Market?

For all those Ron Paul supporters, I got a lot of this stuff from his website. [www.ronpaul2008.com]

So go ahead, vote for an isolationist maniac who wants to ruin our markets with his crazed 'gold standard' ideals.

But don't press your false advertising and inane ideology on me.

Jason, Fontana CA   November 30th, 2007 4:38 am ET

Ron Paul is right. We'll win the "Iraq war" the minute we decide to leave. Saddam is gone, there were no weapons of mass destruction which is why we went in the first place. Time to come home.

katie, CA   November 30th, 2007 12:30 am ET

And everyone is voting for Ron Paul from all of those comments? I HOPE SO!!!

COME ON EVERYONE!

TO AZ   November 29th, 2007 11:40 pm ET

Ron Paul you're on a winning streak, you have the American people backing you 100%!

You stand for the United States and our constitution, never since JFK have we had a Presidential candidate for the American people like you!

It shows you are winning the debates!
You have more american people donating to our cause then any other candidates.

Whatever it takes to fight Corporate big money to get you elected?

The American people believe in you and will keep contributing money and our time for freedom, you will be the next President of the United States

Z, St. Louis,MO   November 29th, 2007 11:22 pm ET

Someone above made a very important
point that Ron Paul has not addressed,
and that his semi-hypocritical stance
on personal freedom and yet his belief
of anti-abortion law on a federal
level.

Why is this?

And lets not forget Ron Paul has had
his finger in with the religious right
in the past.He has been cozy with
super-creep Pat Robertson and the
Talibanesque Christian Coalition.
A VERY un-Libertarian bunch..
That smacks of hypocricy as well..
I cant get my head around these
points, and I have yet to see him
address them.So I cant support him.

rhys, Saint Petersburg FL   November 29th, 2007 10:56 pm ET

I would be behind the fairtax, since it is basically a form of negative income tax first expounded by Milton Friedman. But, it does not eliminate the 16th amendment, it calls for it to be abolished. Unless we abolish the 16th amendment first, we will end up with both a fairtax and an income tax. Once the 16th amendment is abolished with another amendment to the Constitution, I would be interested in a fairtax. Until then, it is suicide.

Greg Fremont, Ca.   November 29th, 2007 10:36 pm ET

Thank you Ron Paul for telling us about the ( North Americam Union ) you are the only candidate that is!

Derrick, Hagerstown, MD   November 29th, 2007 9:41 pm ET

Dear fellow Ron Paul supporters:

Please, for the love of God, stop seeing bias in every single story. It certainly exists, and I do believe it was very evident in the debate last night. However, there's nothing wrong with this blog entry. Please, choose your battles.

Dan attleboro mass   November 29th, 2007 9:08 pm ET

The poll you post on your website has Ron Paul winning the debate. Why is that not mentioned on ant CNN Newscast?

Chris, Pensacola FL   November 29th, 2007 9:07 pm ET

Sarah,

It's good you're a supporter of Ron Paul. It takes all of us to win. Thanks for your devotion to the cause.

Brendan H., San Antonio, TX   November 29th, 2007 9:02 pm ET

Ron Paul – owned and paid for by T. Boone Pickens, who also funded the Swift Boat Vets.

'nuf said?!

Chris, Middletown, CT   November 29th, 2007 8:25 pm ET

They call us "neocons"….I think this is supposed to be insulting….yet….it hardly describes all Republicans…while Hillary supporters…and their entitlist loving ways….seem to fit when we call them either "Marxists" or "Socialists" – loving that big government…because you are entitled..and don't let anyone tell you different!!

Mike, Myrtle Beach, SC   November 29th, 2007 7:52 pm ET

Ron Paul is a isolationist that wants to stick his head in the sand and pretend that challenges from enemies overseas are not to be addressed. The present administration has made many mistakes, as in any war, but at least he is willing to throw down the gauntlet and stare islamofacism in the eye. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it dissappear.

Phil, Newmarket, NH   November 29th, 2007 7:49 pm ET

Nothing is more infuriating than the conventional media's poor coverage of Ron Paul. They seem to mock him or ignore him – as though they are afraid that if they displayed him in a serious light that his already skyrocketing campaign will eclipse all other candidates.

Buddy, San Jose, CA   November 29th, 2007 7:28 pm ET

So, if Dr. Paul is so against big government and Big Brother, how come he didn't bother to vote for or against H.R. 1955. Btw, H.R. 1955 will quiet any type of revolution (peaceful or otherwise) in the United States of America forever. Google H.R. 1955 if you don’t believe me.

How to setup a dictatorship

The following steps have been used by every despot since (at least) Mussolini:

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law

Seem familiar to anyone?

Check out Naomi Wolf on YouTube. Interesting, if not worrisome stuff.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Quantumystic Orlando,FL   November 29th, 2007 7:20 pm ET

This is merely another revelation of the dwindling credibility of the MSM. They can't control how we spend our money, which is why Ron Paul already has over $9.8 million for the 4thQuarter, and another month still to go.

And if our donations to Paul have you scared, just wait til we VOTE.

Welcome to The Revolution.

Andrew, Haslett, MI   November 29th, 2007 7:16 pm ET

Finally a moderately fair piece on Ron Paul. Too bad you ruined it with that last line about avoiding his stance on Iraq. However, you're doing better CNN. Keep it up and I might not think you completely biased against the "second-tier" candidates.

Ron Paul is a true "up and comer" with a growing following. I could support him if only he'd come out strongly in support of the FAIR TAX. It's very apparent that the citizens of the USA are tired of the old guard. It's time for true conservative/constitutional governance

Posted By Ross Hudson, Daytona Beach, FL : November 29, 2007 4:34 pm

Hey Ross, Ron Paul supports the fairest tax of all: 0! Nothing! By bringing the troops home, not just from Iraq but from dozens of countries all over the world where they have no business being, the US would save billions of dollars and get us back to the spending levels 6 years ago. Ending the war and stopping this empire from expanding will bring more dollars back to the US, and allow us to spend more on domestic issues and not tax the people. Abolishing the IRS and its huge bureaucracy, along with the Dept. of Homeland Security and plenty of other bloated government agencies will save even MORE money. The income tax isn't necessary if we don't spend money like it's water and then print money out of thin air! So you see, Dr. Paul supports a much fairer system than even the FairTax, fair for US citizens and for the foreign countries which we invade and maintain a military presence to this day.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com
http://www.teaparty07.com

MARY, RALEIGH NC   November 29th, 2007 7:14 pm ET

Surrealist, Fort Myers, Fl YOU HAVE LOST YOUR EVER LOVIN MIND!!!!!!!!!!

2 WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT, TAKES A MAN TO STAND UP LIKE RON PAUL AND TELL THE HONEST TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN TO KILL MORE AMERICANS JUST TO PROVE A POINT.( THANK GOD YOU ARE NOT RUNNING ) ITS ALL ABOUT THE WIN FOR YOU & TO SUPPORT A CORRUPT SYSTEM !
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED, TURN THAT COMPUTER OFF RIGHT NOW. ENROLL YOURSELF IN HISTORY CLASS!!

Aaron Kinney, Sherman Oaks CA   November 29th, 2007 6:55 pm ET

Just wait until the Tea Party moneybomb coming up on December 16th.

Ron Paul supporters made history on Nov 5th by raising over $4mil in one single day.

They will beat their own record on December 16th. I predict that at least $5mil will be raised on that day alone for Ron Paul.

derry, JAX, FL   November 29th, 2007 6:49 pm ET

We have got to get his supporters to make sure they are registered republicans. otherwise they will show up at the primary and not be able to vote! GO RON.

Brian Harrisburg, PA   November 29th, 2007 6:33 pm ET

After watching Hubert Humphrey and Richard Daly stand on the stage at the 1968 Democratic Convention and laugh at the live footage of the beatings by the police of anyone who happened to be in the Chicago streets, I voted in my first presidential election for Richard Nixon, since I couldn’t support George Wallace. As a Vietnam veteran, I never regretted anything more. I was not then nor am I now a Republican. My political opinions have changed over the years, and I have become a Libertarian. Right now I think that the only believable people in this campaign are Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul, two people that have a vast difference in their beliefs regarding the functions of government, but both have consistently opposed all the Iraq resolutions and bills from the very beginning, and both seem to be very aware that we need major changes in our government, not just another administration that will do the same old things. Unfortunately, the mainstream media which have a massive influence on the views of most Americans aren’t interested in either candidate. Since I’m from Pennsylvania, I will have no say in the primaries because everything will be long decided before we vote in April. But I’ll support Ron Paul for President. If he is not the Republican choice, I will write him in during the general election and may very well write in Dennis Kucinich as Vice President. I twice voted for Ross Perot and wonder where he has gone. It would be very novel to have an administration that could include people who actually understand economics such as Paul, Kucinich, Perot and Ralph Nader. It would certainly be a very unusual mix of personalities, but this is the sort of drastic change that is required in my opinion. Call me crazy if you like…..

Daniel, NY   November 29th, 2007 6:28 pm ET

Ron Paul got some great news again today when he placed fourth in a new New Hampshire poll, far ahead of Fred Thompson and edging out Huckabee.

Sarah, San Diego, CA   November 29th, 2007 6:12 pm ET

Sorry, my fellow Paul supporters, but Mr. Hamby is correct in pointing out that the mailers don't mention Iraq. Either they do or they don't, and they don't, so reporting on that IS just that – reporting. Lay off and focus your attention on the ignorant masses who still believe the Dr. is racist.

Albert Meyer, Plano TX   November 29th, 2007 6:06 pm ET

Surrealist wrote, "No matter how right you are on the War in Iraq–we've already committed too life/blood to thanks to Bush to walk away from it–we must achieve "some kind of lasting results" to justify the blood spilled in the streets of Iraq."

Won't you just love your doctor telling you that he made the wrong diagnosis, but "we've already spent too much money on the treatment, so we'll just have to continue?" In doing so he bankrupts your estate and burdens your children with debt, which destroys their American dreams. Ron Paul receives more money from the military than any other candidate. The troops want to come home.

Ron Paul made the right diagnosis from day one. Not because he is a smart doctor, but because he followed the Constitution and the advice of the Founding Fathers. George Bush followed the advice of the military-industrial complex. “Surrealist,” I think not long now and you will change your name to “Realist.”

Carrie, Chattanooga, TN   November 29th, 2007 5:51 pm ET

CNN has really started to dissappoint me in recent months. First, right after the most recent senatorial race, there was the correspondant who commented on Tennessee's election of Bob Corker "I guess Tennesee wasn't ready for a black senator". Harold Ford, Jr.'s race had nothing to do with him loosing. I don't live in Tennesee, but live close enough to where I was glued to this past election. So, I didn't vote for either candidate.
Now, they are just smearing Ron Paul. First of all, Paul may have libertarian bents, but he IS a REPUBLICAN. As he pointed last night in the debate, he has won on the Republican ticket in Texas for 10 terms.
Secondly, anyone can google Ron Paul and discover that he is all for getting the troops out of Iraq. The "protection and peace without nation bulding" line points to this. It does not say it explicitly, but it's not like he hides his feelings on the war in Iraq. I would hope that people don't make a decision just based on one or two pieces of mail. I would hope that the mail would push them to research that candidate.
Please do fair reporting, CNN. This is starting to make me sick.

Ryan, Gardner, Mass.   November 29th, 2007 5:36 pm ET

Every state Paul spends money in he goes up two-fold or more in the poll numbers.

He already has a large base of supporters. But by bypassing the main stream media that ignores Paul, and by sending out mailers and advertising on TV and radio he can reach millions of voters just waiting for the message Paul delivers.

Ron Paul is the dark horse of this election! many will be surprised.

jkeehn,bushnell, fl   November 29th, 2007 5:20 pm ET

Have you read the bill? Like the sponsers list?

Joe, Millville, New Jersey   November 29th, 2007 5:19 pm ET

Mike Cobb:
"Goldwater conservation, Barry was pro-choice, pro-gay rights, a fiscal conservative, an anti-imperialist, a conservationist, and a protector of individual liberty."

When Goldwater was a leading national figure in 64′ … gay rights and abortion weren't even issues in America
as for "anti-imperialist" he was for bringing the fight to North Vietnam and escalating the war even more than Johnson did

I like Goldwater too but to assume his position on issues when he was running for President they way you did is flat out ignorant of history

Beckster   November 29th, 2007 5:19 pm ET

Vincent,

With the Fairtax you would be treated just like everyone else. The prices of goods are not going to go up. Most people don't understand this or lie about it. So you are not going to pay more for items. Your benefits you receive and the interest from your savings, etc will not be taxed. Therefore you will have more money to spend every month. You will also receive what is known as the prebate. It is based on how many people are in your household. For instance if it is just you and your wife then you would receive X number of dollars to cover the tax on the basic necessities, ie, food, clothing, etc. Larger families would obviously receive larger paychecks.

If you are just making ends meet and you only spend on the things you have to get by with you will come out better.

Keep in mind though that we are all still paying taxes. It is just collected in a much more efficient manner that encourages savings. All of the govt. handout programs would still continue running as normal. It would still be up to the people to keep congress from overspending and adding pork to their bills. Good Luck – visit http://www.fairtax.com

Beckster   November 29th, 2007 5:13 pm ET

This guy has some great ideas but I think he is one step from the mental ward.

James,chicago,illinois   November 29th, 2007 5:10 pm ET

He stands firmly in his belief that we should worry about our country first and for that i support his courages attempt to run, but the fact of the matter is, can he assure the American people that he means business and back his word. Many believe he can but i rather just let the polls do the talking.

Aaron, Sterling VA   November 29th, 2007 5:03 pm ET

Keep trying with the snear jobs, major media. It's just fuel for the fire.

Ron Paul '08!

Shane L. Duluth, MN   November 29th, 2007 4:49 pm ET

I think you all have forgotten something: We already won the war in Iraq! Don't you all remember President Bush on the fricken ship and all the celibrating the wars end in what was it… 2003!! Saddam Hussein is Dead! War over!! If all were doing over there is nation building let the Iraqis build their own nation!! We had too in 1776 and Ron Paul is the only one who knows that the best.

If you think we need to stay in Iraq killing and being killed for God only know how long while our very own country go's down the stinkin tubes…then YOUR the wacko! Get up and ride on BUSH because you and him are inbreed cousins!

swizlstx, somewhere, NY   November 29th, 2007 4:48 pm ET

Ron Paul is honest and has integrity. Something ALL the other candidates, Dems & Reps, lack. He leads. People listen to his message and support him. He doesn't change his message to attract voters like the rest do.

Ross Hudson, Daytona Beach, FL   November 29th, 2007 4:34 pm ET

Ron Paul is a true "up and comer" with a growing following. I could support him if only he'd come out strongly in support of the FAIR TAX. It's very apparent that the citizens of the USA are tired of the old guard. It's time for true conservative/constitutional governance.

MJ Seymour,CT   November 29th, 2007 4:10 pm ET

Are Romney's mailings focusing on how much he endorses the war and how much it is costing each American. I highly doubt it. So why is it necessary for Ron Paul to focus so heavily on the war in his mailings? If you can follow Ron Paul's positions on Government Spending, Illegal Immigration/Border Enforcement and Pro-Life. It then becomes very easy to respect and perhaps even embrace his opinion on the war in Iraq.

MG, Manchester, CT   November 29th, 2007 4:09 pm ET

Hey NoMoreLies… Care to cite chapter and verse for me where Giuliani stated all Muslims were terrorists?

And Jennifer Rae – give us all a window into the future of how the middle east will have peace? And simply stating, "well it won't have it with the US still there" isn't an answer.

And David F. in Savannah – very nice move in labeling name calling as childish. I'm sure none of you in "the Revolution" ever engaged in that before, is that correct??

Jon, Kansas   November 29th, 2007 4:03 pm ET

Just when I thought maybe Ron would get some unbiased reporting…

Nope!

Though you do manage to point out that he is at odds with the republican party and….shocker…the republican party is out of sync with the PEOPLE!!!

I think it is about time that someone conducts a poll of the troops serving in Iraq…I think you'll find that the military is not quite made up of 95% neocon hawks that the other republocrats want you to believe.

A. Opstal, Netherlands   November 29th, 2007 3:59 pm ET

As a strong observer of American politics, do not count Ron Paul out. He could very well be a sleeper…

Joseph H, Warner Robins, Georgia   November 29th, 2007 3:54 pm ET

Let's keep our momentum going. December 15th and 16th is going to be another campaign fundraising record breaker. I am a two-time Bush supporter and I want my country back. No more policing the world while our country is going bankrupt and is borrowing from the Chinese for our illegal occupation in Iraq (which had nothing, whatsoever, to do with 9/11). Our dollar is losing ground everyday and Ron Paul seems to be the only candidate concerned or even aware of this. America is fed up with the crooked and corporate-owned politicians currently leading this country astray. Go Ron Paul 2008!!!

Jennifer Rae, Portland OR   November 29th, 2007 3:52 pm ET

um…"Surrealist", there will be no peace, lasting or otherwise, untill the US is out of the middle east. That means Saudi Arabia and Israel too.

We're stubling around like drunks with nukes, all while wearing ear muffs and blindfolds, "Why do they hate us?".

You're a madman, you embarras me.

(And if Texas were really so pro-war, how was it he was re-elected to the senate by Texans over and over again?)

Jenn, Portland, OR   November 29th, 2007 3:43 pm ET

Most Americans want us out of Iraq…

Jackson   November 29th, 2007 3:33 pm ET

This guy is a FDA certified "fruitcake". He can't even get the support of liberal Republicans!!!

I see someone hasn't been following his campaign at all. It's pretty obvious by that statement alone.

Bubba, Swainsboro GA   November 29th, 2007 3:14 pm ET

Someone hit my mailbox, too. I bet it was Ron Paul. Keep it between the ditches, Ron!

Dan Fogerman, Houston, TX   November 29th, 2007 3:10 pm ET

Nice smear at the end. I don't think anyone in America believes Ron Paul is for keeping the troops in Iraq. PERHAPS he was focusing on what people didn't know about his policies. Wouldn't that seem to be the most logical conclusion? Besides, speculation ISN'T your job, REPORTING is.

Dorothy Fairview, Pinellas Park, FL   November 29th, 2007 3:08 pm ET

Ron Paul had an astounding display of support in St Petersburg. Airplane and boat banners. A rented theater filled with cheering supporters. Ten tables in the park offering t-shirts, books, brochures, etc. Busses to transport the people from one place to another. All done by local volunteers. The papers have not reported any of this. It is being suppressed, like Christmas. He was not given a fair opportunity to express his views in the debate. The powers that be must be very much afraid of him and his ideas.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   November 29th, 2007 3:04 pm ET

"…the detailed, fold-out mailings seem to carefully avoid the one position that truly puts him at odds with his Republican rivals: his repeated calls to immediately remove U.S. combat forces from Iraq."

You job, Mr Hamby, is to report the news. It's not to infer things, or to take guesses about things. Unless you were present when Dr Paul's mailers were created, you cannot possibly know that his campaign staff "carefully avoid[ed]" anything and your use of that phrase imputes a degree of disingenuousness on the part of that staff.

A lot of people out here in The World are accusing CNN of bias against Ron Paul. Personally, I have no opinion on the matter of your motives in slighting him in air-time in debates–which you measurably do–and the like, but "reporting" that includes pejorative opinion doesn't help to dispel the accusations.

David F, Savannah, GA   November 29th, 2007 3:04 pm ET

People call Ron Paul Crazy, fringe, and a whacko, Why? Because they have NOTHING bad to actually say about him, so people resort to name calling. Calling him crazy is the most childish attack one can take. He is without a doubt the one man that can get this country back on track. Don't believe the hype!!! Get behind this man and join the Revolution!!!!!

Chris L, SLC, Utah   November 29th, 2007 2:58 pm ET

Dr. Ron Paul is the only true pro-life candidate, and the only republican that could easily win against any of the dems.

Surrealist, Fort Myers, Fl   November 29th, 2007 2:53 pm ET

This guy is a FDA certified "fruitcake". He can't even get the support of liberal Republicans!!! Go home Ron. Mabye you should have run on a 3rd ticket as a Libertarian–you would have had a better chance. No matter how right you are on the War in Iraq–we've already committed too life/blood to thanks to Bush to walk away from it–we must achieve "some kind of lasting results" to justify the blood spilled in the streets of Iraq.

Mike Cobb, Palo Alto, CA   November 29th, 2007 2:50 pm ET

Ron Paul is the only Republican who is even close to being a Goldwater conservative. If he would only extend his libertarian views to the abortion issue … how can someone who believes in getting the government out of our personal lives and choices not be pro-choice, even if he personally doesn't like that choice? … then he would be a compete Goldwater conservation, Barry was pro-choice, pro-gay rights, a fiscal conservative, an anti-imperialist, a conservationist, and a protector of individual liberty. None of which qualities are reflected by Bush or any of the GOP crowd that want his job. He is the only GOP candidate that is not in the thrall of the religious and neocon extremists, The debate reminded me as to why I left the GOP.

Lorenz, Queens, NY   November 29th, 2007 2:36 pm ET

I hope Ron Paul wins the peoples hearts and minds

JD Rugby ND   November 29th, 2007 2:28 pm ET

His repeated calls to immediately remove U.S. combat forces from Iraq are why we Republicans support Dr. Paul. We do not want or need another Bush, nor do need to continue Bush's war of terror in Iraq.

JD, IN   November 29th, 2007 2:26 pm ET

They aren't "carefully avoiding" the topic… EVERYBODY KNOWS Ron Paul is for ending the war in Iraq. That is why is such a popular candidate! Well, that on top of everything else Dr. Paul stands for. What a truely wonderful American! We are lucky he is in the running. Dr. Ron Paul would make the best President ever!

Ethan, Los Angeles, CA   November 29th, 2007 2:21 pm ET

"""""He doesn't have a chance with the neocons unless he gets Chuck Norris to switch endorsements.""""""

I can do it. Chuck Norris is old and out of shape. I am still in my twenties and have a blazing roundhouse kick.

Ethan, Los Angeles, CA   November 29th, 2007 2:19 pm ET

Here he is people. The one man that can make our country great is within voting range. We may not get another chance like this for decades.

Dr. Paul is the one, true choice for America.

NoMoreLies   November 29th, 2007 2:17 pm ET

Well, the South Carolinans need to understand that the war in Iraq is a sham. No WMDs, Bush administration lies about WMDs, no 9/11 terrorists came from Iraq (they were Saudi so why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia?). Tell us why we're in Iraq and how we can win a war that has no clearly defined goal.

This war in Iraq has killed and maimed thousands of US soldiers. That's not supporting the troops – supporting the troops is keeping them OUT of stupid wars.

This war in Iraq has cost hundreds of billions of dollars – that's money out of everyone's pocket and a big drain on the economy.

This war in Iraq has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Despite what Rudy Guiliani says, all muslims are NOT terrorists!!!

Vincent Knoxville, TN   November 29th, 2007 2:17 pm ET

I like the concept of the "Fare Tax" law I just would like to know: What about people like myself living on a VA Disability would I get an increase to cover this Tax?

Mike S., New Orleans, Louisiana   November 29th, 2007 2:14 pm ET

He doesn't have a chance with the neocons unless he gets Chuck Norris to switch endorsements.

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