I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. BUT YOU CAN'T PUT YOU'R SELF IN OFF. YOU HAVE SOME ONE TO DO IT FOR YOU. WE DON'T NEED YOU,
R.L.HEADRICK.

In a country that was built on the words "In God We Trust" why in the world would we elect president who doesn't remember what lies she has told and changes her story constantly? The former presidents would roll over in their graves is she was elected. It would be a disgrace to them and their hard work regardless of their political standings to have Hilary Clinton in office.

I'd vote for him again too, J. of Houston, not just because I hope it annoys the Bush haters on this site, but I also believe history will look favorably upon Bush for his firm stance in the Middle East. I'm not too happy about his position on illegal aliens, however.

If we vote the Clintons back to the White House, we will have to buy insurance for the WH furniture. Most of the pieces are national treasures.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/1190410.stm

"the Clintons had walked off with something like $190,000-worth of White House furniture."

In the history of the United States, no other presidents had ever been caught stealing our national treasure from the White House. And, no other presidents had rented out our Lincoln Bedroom, either.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/25/clinton.money/

Given another 8 years, the Clintons may think they own the White House. This is what happens when you approve dynasty with your vote.

Constitutional Amendment to limit presidential terms for the same couple!

Exactly what has Hillary accomplished that makes her "uniquely qualified" to be her the nominee of her party for President? Can anyone out there please name three achievements of hers - besides being married to a former governor and President, and besides graduating from law school.

I saw a couple bloggers with the "Republicans want Obama to win because they know he won't win the general election" - actually…as a Republican (and several other R's I've spoken with) - we like Obama - we hate Hillary - I would truly listen to his stance on issues…he appears to be the polar opposite of HRC (he's honest and likeable)

Posted By Chris, Middletown, CT : December 5, 2007 9:25 am

Add me to your list Chris, I have posted in support a FEW times in his favor and your "honest and likable" point is dead on.

I do however want her to win as she has so much dirt that can be easily turned into mud, that she will be EASIER to beat than he.

If a Democrat HAS to win the White house I would have no problem with a combination of Biden, Obama, Dodd, Richardson and even a Lieberman.

Biden and Richardson are clearly the most qualified, but they don't have certain factions on their side and frankly neither of them was married to a former President.

They earned everything themselves.

Funny how we R's get pegged as hating all Democrats, not true, just a few in particular.

Interesting documentary on google that shows you what hillary will really give you

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6107885031407830500&q=clinton+duration%3Along&total=835&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

The good things Bill did in term is all HILLARY's ideas!
The bad things?

NAH, thats all Bill!

Hurry up and get Canada and Mexico in a United Americas Union so we all can vote for Bill Gates for President.The media coverage will be great for my Company.

"We are going to take things from you for the common good"-Hillary Clinton

OK Libs, I will vote for Hillary if you explain to me how Marxism is the answer for America.

You won't, see with libs they don't think, they just regurgitate the lies and hate from Move-on.org, Democracy underground, daily kos ETC. It is as if the libs are like a million Soros programmed libbots who will do and say whatever this man wants. The lib never questions what they are told to think, they are like a computer, just program it to do what you want it to do. For all the flaws the right has, at least that side thinks for itself and likes to debate rather than just regurgitate.

You are a horrible human being if you think that two men saying the same thing, Bill Clinton and George Bush saying that Iraq has WMDs, can make one of them a truth teller and the other a liar. This level of dishonesty and hate is reason enough to vote against the left every November.

Please Bill. spare us. what you say to defend is of no consequence. your wife just doesn't cut it on the issues.

I should believe Bill "BJ" Clinton, convicted felon, perjury to a grand jury, the author of the policy of personal destruction. Bill, you and your despicable wife of convenience need to remove yourselves from the American scene. You are a liar, thief, felon, disbarred attorney, and your wife is your tool to keep your name in the public. WE ARE SICK OF THE CLINTONS. Get it? Tell H. Reid the war isn't lost, only his mind. He is going to be defeated in NEVADA, wait and see. I have never seen traitors so blantant that they would sacrifice AMERICAN soldiers for their own political gain. But we have a bunch of commies in the Democrat party. SUPER DELEGATES, that's their way of controlling their party. Scum is being too nice to them. I say stop every appropriation bill, including the pay for Congress and let the people judge them.

i bet a lot of you voted twice for bush and see where that got you.

Lower taxes. No Child Left Behind (teachers responsible for teaching! Good teachers rewarded! Best thing ever from the Department of Education!). No terrorist attacks since 9/11.

Also Bush can't run up the deficit, he doesn't have control of government funding. CONGRESS ran up the deficit.

So yeah, not only did I vote twice, but I'd vote for him again if I could.

First of all, Christopher, she did NOT hand pick Albright, Albright had to be vetted and aproved by Congress just like any other Cabinet member.
Secondly, if she has an exit strategy, outline it, I sure haven't seen it. And you have no idea what Edwards and Obama's plans are. As far as I know, Richardson is the only Democrat that wants to leave immediately.
If Hillary has so much experience and had so much influence, all she has to do is release the documents to prove it.
And I'm guessing she had her office in the West Wing so she could keep an eye on hubby Bill. We all know how that worked out.

actually, Bill, Obama has been in elected office LONGER than Hillary… and America's long tradition of electing mayors to the presidency shows that we really don't care whether experience is at the state or national level… Hillary has very little to go on in trying to prove her superior "experience"

You would actually vote for a moron that wanted to hand out $5k for each kid? Nice experience……..

I saw a couple bloggers with the "Republicans want Obama to win because they know he won't win the general election" - actually…as a Republican (and several other R's I've spoken with) - we like Obama - we hate Hillary - I would truly listen to his stance on issues…he appears to be the polar opposite of HRC (he's honest and likeable)

Yes, let us go back Bill and check on how your wife did such a great job in that law firm that stole money. White Water does not mean White House.

The media has done a GREAT disservice. They only talk and write about how Hillary is losing this and losing that, how bad she is, how all of these people hate her. Everyday, I hear this mess. Hillary is loved by many of us and we are getting sick and tired of the slanted coverage. This woman has worked and worked for years for the betterment of Americans.

At the same time, the media will say how Obama is in the lead, how Obama is so wonderful, how Obama brings hope, how Obama needs to attack Hillary to win.

It is obvious the media is hoping that Obama upsets Hillary. Obama is arrogant and his hope has turned into hopeless when he started attacking Hillary in October. That showed me he is not about the Audacity of Hope, but the Audacity of lets beat her down, so I can go up.

The media wants respect, they need to start being objective in their coverage. The media is so subjective. I can hardly stand MSNBC any more. They act as if they are a tabloid station verses serious news station.

Why doesn't the media cover what Obama did as a State Senator. Obama stated that he did not keep records. What kind of crap is that! Did the media cover that at all or question that, or dig deeper to see why that is the case for a State Senator. No, they gave Obama a pass. They are always giving Obama a pass on important policy questions. Obama has no skills or experience to run the best country in the world. Why is the media afraid to investigate that; are they afraid people will say, they are picking on him because he's black?

So, Bill Clinton is correct. The media coverage is one sided—against Hillary.

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are reminding us of the exact reasons Hillary Clinton should not get the nomination. She is a vindictive, divisive, dangerously ambitious and polarizing individual. Her unwarranted attacks of Senator Obama in the last few days demonstrates all these. She craves the office of the Presidency even if it divides the Democratic party. She is not going to be able to rally people around a common goal, neither will she be able to build bi-partisan consensus to solve problems that America faces in a common sense way. She is always referring to some 'vast right wing conspiracy'. This woman is the wrong person for the times. Additionally, Bill Clinton should keep his mouth closed. I think he's doing more harm than good. He's a pathological liar and he is giving me reasons not to support his wife. He should do the honorable thing and just watch from the sidelines instead of lieing about being against the war in Iraq from the start.

In the final analysis, I am tired of family dynasties; the office of the President is not a family heirloom neither is it a chattel to be passed down the family tree.

Next thing you know Chelsea Clinton too would start running for President, claiming she's experienced, having been the daughter of a President.

CFR Hooker. Promised to repeal Reagan Executive Order allowing the hiring of permanent replacement workers for striking workers. LIar Liar Liar just like Hillary You wont publish because you are a Traitor

if the Clinton's make it back into the White House will NBC to a special "to Catch a Predator" at the White House? I wonder how many times Bill would show up.

Bill is right — the media needs to focus more on Hillary's experience — the almost complete total lack of it, that is. Hillary has never held any executive leadership position in her life — never been a governor, cabinet secretary, CEO, or run a non-profit. In fact, she's never even been a mayor or even a head dog catcher. For those who count being first lady as experience, I ask you this: is your spouse qualified to do your job? Are you qualified to do your spouse's?

its simple. Release the papers. That would be an effective way of circumventing the media, my guess is they still won't release them, thus telling us again that she doesn't have any real experience.

YAWN!!!!!

Bill is right. Hillary has way more experience than Obama. Plus I don't believe that Obama can carry any southern state and some of the swing states.

I would no sooner hire Hillary Clinton as my real estate agent, much less a senator or president. Her and Bubba's shady business dealings of the past give me pause to the people still on the Clinton train. Who is that susceptible to political coercion without getting paid off?

The Clintons are the biggest joke I have ever seen.

I care more about the Constitution and less about the status quo. I choose Ron Paul.

Everything is a right wing conspiracy, even criticism from her own party. Her experience has been put on display and hasn't shown well. Even Robert Reich doesn't support her. Bill supports her because that was the deal. She didn't leave him in return for his support.

This might be news, but the fact that the media is merely a shadow of what it used to be is certainly not new news.

I'm afraid that the Project for Excellence in Journalism, Marvin Kalb, Bill Moyers, Ted Koppel, and every other champion of a rigorous, thoughtful, and courageous media are just outnumbered by the entertainment-obsessed media that we actually have, and have for good it looks like.

Silly Democrats, we're never happy with being unified are we? We have an experienced candidate who knows how to take on the GOP and has been fighting for Democratic values for decades (more successful then any other Democrat has done for God knows how long!), yet again we may dump her for an opportunist inexperienced smooth talker whom the Republicans would shred easily. Just shows you why we never win the White House, many of us are too fooled by the conflict loving media!

Silly Democrats, they're never happy with being unified are you? You have an experienced candidate who knows how to take on the GOP and has been fighting for Democratic values for decades (more successful then any other Democrat has done for God knows how long!), yet again you may dump her for an opportunist inexperienced smooth talker. Just shows you why the Democrats never win the White House, they're too fooled by the conflict loving media!

Good for you. I love seeing and hearing the truth. When looking at experience and past voting records it is clear to see that Senator Clinton is the one who not only has a dream for this country but also the knowledge to make it happen.

I follow the discussions here and its sad to note that a lot of comments go against Hillary. You have to appreciate her contribution during her husband tenure of office. She has served as a beacon of hope and strength and a source of inspiration for many women around the world, including here in Australia, also my wife who professes to be a Hillary fan. We have a deputy Prime Minister in Julia Gillard and its inspiring to know that Hillary is showing everyone what she can do best for the future of your country, USA. Please don't waste such talent by just ruining her person with baseless accussations. She has the best policies compared with other candidates. Her success as the President of the USA will make your country the best in the eyes of the world again. You go girl!

Bill Clinton is not running for President.

CLINTON COMPLAINS WHATS NEW, HE A WOOSIE!

Sure she's had experince, But what she did during those experinces were not very smart and she still can't amke good desicions. She let her husband get up on stage and defend her she must be desesperate, because Bill Clinton is not the help she need's. Like Huckabee said she and her husband can be on the first space ship to mar's and they can let us know how it went. That would be the only thing i vote any clinton for. Bill and Hailary are a disgrace and should be shipped to Iraq because they are a disgace to this country and I am embarassed to say I am from America becuase of these to 2 screwing up this Country.

The sexism apparent in some of these posts is mind blowing.

The News Media keep trying to distory good people who are out there trying to become leaders of America, Jump in Mr. Dobbs and tell us why Americans are fed up with Politics, let the American people do the voteing.

how can anyone believe what bill clinton says. wasnt he the one that lied to the american people about his little intern??but then later wrote a book practically saying he did it because he could. do we need that kind of curruption in charge again?! not saying he will be incharge but he will probably have a say. i pray that the people are smart when it comes time to put a president into office! lets stop the bush clinton bush white house.

give it up billary; obama is going to wipe the floor with you

"I would pick her if she werent' married to me" - someone accused of affairs shouldn't even go there. He's putting his foot in his mouth more + more. Well, it's better than a wet cigar in the mouth

Remember: Hillary can win only if she's portrayed as a victim. That's the Clinton's angle in this campaign. You're a victim, shes' a victim , we're all victims.

If you Libs want a public review of all of the nonsense/law breaking from 1993-01, please nominate Hillary. She makes Mondale (joke), Dukakis (bigger joke), and Gore (oh my God) look Presidential.

It will be quite entertaining watching the GOP walk all over her ….she is UNELECTABLE.

Dear Bill Clinton
Yes public Record's would be nice to cover for the media.
So uncover them
(ie no more hiding)
It is time to stop the cover up and make yours & Hillarys Records Public Information.
We need to know whats behind the door before we open it and let Hillary walk thru and lead this Great Nation. With moderan technoligy the days of hide and seek are over. Common Sense will be the rule of the day. Mainstreet is alive and well. So just have Hillary answer some questions straight forward with some foritude and see where the chips fall. Its a bold plan. Can you handle it? America Deserves it.

Sadly, the typical person always roots for the under-dog. No one likes a winner, in part because we are innately jealous, selfish individuals — it's the human flaw inherent in all of us. And that is the primary reason why people are too ignorant to reflect upon Senator Clinton's record. They would rather call something a "Clintonism" than recognize the truth in when she says she is the "most qualified person to hit the ground running." Hillary '08.

To Susan, Rogue River, I am a New Yorker and i do not approve of her at all. She has done nothing for us here, it has all been a bid for the presidency since day one.
Do you remember the 9/11 tribute for the Police and Firemen of NYC concert?
Hillary was one of two people booed off the stage. She was the only one who was not able to get any comments out over the crowd and had to walk off the stage dejected and humiliated.

Does this sound like someone who we are happy with to you?

Republicans helped Obama to be nominee because they know Obama will not be
elected in General Election, they don't know how to lead our Country but they are clever about win election, they will beat Obama like Bush did in 2000 and 2004. I worry about negative and selfish people.

"A vote for Obama is a vote for Guliani."

Not according to Zogby's data. According to Zogby Obama beats Giuliani 46% - 41%.

Hillary loses that same matchup with 40% against 43%.

Appearantly it's a vote for Hillary that's a vote for Giuliani.

In response to the comment that New Yorkers are happy with Hillary . . . my dear friends who live in New York state are not at all happy with Hillary as their senator. They feel strongly that she doesn't give one wit about her constituents throughout the state.

I find the media coverage of Clinton outlandish, unfair, and mean-spirited.
If only they would have scrutinized Bush at least half of how they scrutinize Clinton, maybe we wouldn't be in such a mess. Pres Clinton is right, the media doesn't cover substance.

It seems that you need more experience to be manager at the local 711 than to be president these days!

To think that these candidates are applying for what could arguably be the highest, most influential, and most important position in the world, and to not question their credibility and experience seems LUDICROUS AND MIND BOGGLING….so say the least.

Quit your whining. Both you and Hillary are just a disgrace to the American people.

You both lie your way through everything. You stole from the White House on your way out. Granted pardons to criminals. Been unfaithful throughout your bogus marriage…and your going to tell us how things should be?

Thankfully the AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE REAL HILLARY (AND THAT'S WHY HILLARY IS DROPPING LIKE A ROCK IN THE POLLS).

,

Bill knows Hillary is in trouble. Hillary knows she's in trouble too.

Mr President..your right,all they do is spin spin negativism,they dotn care about issues,I know hillary has what it takes..I have family in NYC to and they love her she has done lotts there for people you people dont even here about.especially the poor children and families,can't ever take that away from her.to many peope back her for that right here in NYC and that is the fire fighters and police to.
we do not need a rookie he's already said he needed al gore and clinton in is office cabinet,do you know why he doesnt even know where to start.he's clueless,we need someone on day one and thats hillary in there with bill at her side to straighten it out.people we are in bad shape.right here in America.
Thats bill job is ot be with Hillary hes gonna be first man ever,and we need his smart political mind,i dont care about his past we need both of them.

I read this below..and i rem i worked with a muslim in late 89 he told me that,once a muslim always a muslim even if your in another church it carries with you where ever you go.it would scare me to have this black or muslim man we do not know him…i think we should really look at him,is he fake and built by the media or is it he acting,so he can get in that white house.

According to Schlussel's online bio, she claims "unique expertise on radical Islam/Islamic terrorism and a host of other issues" and that her "online fan club is the Internet's second largest for a political personality — behind only Ann Coulter."

From Schlussel's December 18 column:

Many months ago, readers began asking me whether Barack Obama is Muslim. Since he identifies as a Christian, I said, "no," and responded that he was not raised by his Kenyan father.

But, then, I decided to look further into Obama's background. His full name — as by now you have probably heard — is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali's son — Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.

And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not.

Did anyone get the difference between Hilary's position and Bush's on Iran?
Oh boy,

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, tried, tired, flawed, failed.

GIVE America a break

Let's talk about experience in public office, shall we?

Posted By Anonymous, Somewhere, MI : December 4, 2007 6:33 pm

Anon, you are so right with your post. I have never understood since the beginning (gosh, how many years has this been going on ….) of the Duhmocrats' debates why Biden, Dodd and Richardson have not slammed Hillary on her "lack of experience". All they would have had to do was to recite exactly what you wrote on THEIR experience, and she was done using the "experience" angle. Instead, ALL of them let Her Royal Thighness and the Clintonistas beat the "experience" drum out there until it became their gospel. Now Slick is on the campaign and repeating the same crap. If you don't believe it sinks in after awhile, all you have to do is go from blog to blog and read all of the idiots who say, "I'm voting for her because she is the most experienced!" Then ask that idiot at "what". "Oh, she was first lady, and a woman". It's unbelievable how stupid and gullible people are when it comes to this woman.

I was reading the comments and a lot of people say "what experience as first lady…picking china and curtain." What a lot of people don't understand was that Hillary was the first First Lady to have her office in the West Wing of the White House and book after book states her influential role in the White House policy making during the Clinton years. Infact Madeline Albright for Secreatry of State was hand picked by Hillary. Furthermore there is so much documetation of Clinton's extensive work as a Senator and passing bipartisan legislation. There are pictures of her and Trent Lott supporting important issues. One of the top Generals also reported that of all the candidates Hillary is the only one that knows Iraq the best and has a step by step exit strategy. For example Obama and Edwards wants to leave Iraq right away. This will create a lot of instability and leave the country in shambles worse off than under Hussein kind of like how the Soviet Union left Afghanistan when they invaded it in 1980. This only creates more instability in the region and as history has shown us, countries with unstable governments breed terrorism like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Oman to name a few.

Media has been biased to Hillary, may be sexism still to hard in this country. But supporter like me has been working behalf of Hillary and she will do best instead of corporate media favor hype Hussein, Oprah and Osama.

wow did some idiot Obama supporter just ask what experience Clinton had before he ran for President?! Wow..he was Governor of Arkansa for over 14 years here is a quote "In 1982, Clinton reclaimed his old job as governor and kept it for another 10 years, helping Arkansas transform its economy and significantly improving the state's educational system. He became a leading figure among the New Democrats.[18] The New Democrats, organized within the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) were a branch of the Democratic Party that called for welfare reform and smaller government, a policy supported by both Democrats and Republicans. He served as Chair of the National Governors Association from 1986 to 1987, bringing him to an audience beyond Arkansas.[12]

Clinton made economic growth, job creation and educational improvement high priorities of his administration. He removed the sales tax from medicine for senior citizens and increased the home property tax exemption for the elderly. Clinton was also responsible for some state educational improvement programs, notably more spending for schools, rising opportunities for gifted children, an increase in vocational education, and raising of teachers' salaries" He had a proven record. He had a choice of running for President in 1988 but knew HE DIDNT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE!! Something Obama should have done..but the media hype was good enough for him!!

Beiden is the only good choice the Democrats have to offer, and he'll never get elected - too intelligent and too qualified. Hillary is a liar and an empty shirt.

And the story that Bush tricked her in to voting to go to war? So what are you saying, an idiot like Bush can fool her but she'd be a good President? HA!

the same thing bill just talked about, honestly in texas just did sad sad sad day. when you forget what someone did just cause you like listening to gossip..i bet a lot of you voted twice for bush and see where that got you. so keep on you can blame yourself for this country demise..obama is inexperienced to handle the crap bush is leaving for the next president.

In 1968, Nixon said he had a plan to end the war, but he never discussed the details. The war went on for 6 more years. In 2007, Hillary Clinton claims to have White House experience, but she never discusses the details and doesn't request that the records be released so we can be the judge. The people had a right to know about Nixon's secret plan and the people have a right to know about Hillary's secret experience. With every passing week, Hillary looks more and more like someone I don't want to have running the country.

hey Bill while your blowing some hot air- how about blowing out your sax- with your cool shades
or blowing out some smoke that you "inhaled"

don't you have a Mc D's or someone to go?

I'd rather vote for a barking dog then you hag bag wife- both of you get lost- so we don't have to see your lying faces anymore!

And her experience is … ?

Considering they won't release her White House records and considering she "lost" her pre-White House billing records (anybody remember FileGate? Way to run with that one, Media!), there is NO documentation of her having ANY experience.

Oh right, she did "win" a grammy for It Takes a Ghost Writer … I mean Village.

You all just don’t get it.
The majority of registered voters are women and like Chris Mathews said, if Hillary gets half of the women to vote for her she will win. This is why the national polls show her in the lead. The Republicans, Obama and Edwards don’t stand a chance. So put all your opinions aside and vote for the woman.

If the candidates would spend 50 minutes of telling us what they "WOULD DO" instead of what the others would'nt do, it would make for a better logical choice.

I wish people would listen to what President Clinton has to say. Our electoral process is completely broken and the focus of most candidates on the right is only to get elected. It’s all about power and not about experience or issues. Look where inexperience has taken us with Iraq and our broken foreign policy. Look at what the current administration has done when it was handed a budget surplus. A reasonable, experienced person would not have cut taxes while getting us into a very costly and unnecessary war. As a former Marine and New York resident during 9/11, I’m ashamed of what this administration has done to this country and every person that has been killed in Iraq. This is the first time in American history where we haven't made sacrifices. Our President's motto is for us to "go shopping". America needs to focus on a person’s record this time. This coming election is way too important to focus on gay marriage, abortion and gun rights.

I hate writing to the Clinton News Network but perhaps if the Clintons released documents concerning her tenure as First Lady, we may be able to see exactly what her experience encompasses.

I have to say, regarding the one thing that Hillary had experience in before being a Senator (her experience as a partisan hack in the White House), she failed pretty miserably at winning anyone over to her side. And I'm not even a Republican. If neither McCain nor Obama are nominated I will lose faith in the nominating process–alright, I already have.

Mr. and Mrs. Bill Clinton are upset at the left wing liberal media,that's funny. Bill and Hill; if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!

I DON'T SEE A BETTER CANDIDATE FOR A PRESIDENT THEN HILLARY!!!!
HILLARY YOU HAVE MY VOTE.

If experience is a requirement to be President, then I must contend that not a single candidate is qualified to run for the post. Remember even the "Great Bill Clinton" had no experience at anything except being a politician and running a bottom of the barrel state. So please cut the bull and get on with the future plans the candidates have for this country.

Last I checked, Hillary has been a Senator for roughly as long as Obama. Exactly how does first spouse line up as experience versus the rest of the pack?

You know what? Bill Clinton sucks. I used to like him a lot–he was probably my favorite politician. But that was when I was basically a kid. I didn't realize how disgustingly duplicitous this guy really is. All he does is attack people because its "just not fair". I wish he would be expelled from the public arena. All he does is lie. Really. That's it. The thing is, if he had called it the "vast right wing conspiracy", everyone would have applauded. When Hillary says it, everyone laughs. And now he talks about experience??!! If the race in 92 had focused only on experience he would have been blown out of the water. So, way to go Bill, keep distorting things and assume that the public won't catch on, because they probably won't. I thought the most revealing thing I've ever heard about Clinton was said by Ted Sorensen. "Bill Clinton was a persuasive communicator. If he was here now he'd persuade us both that I'm wrong. But what was it used for? It was sad to see a president with such talent who was unable to get more done." Well said.

With the money that Osama has generated, he has hired a lot of bloggers to write against Hillary.

Exactly which experience are you refering to, Slick? The only experience your wife has is with PI's trying to keep your extramaritals under wraps so she is not damaged. You call being a senator from NY experience? Now that's a good joke.
Nobody knew what she wanted to be in k-garten because she could never give them a straight answer. Good luck with your bellyaching, Bubba!

I guess if it weren't for the Comedy News Network, poor Hil wouldn't have any supporters at all in the media. I hope she wins the nomination though, so we can watch her go wee, wee, wee, all the way home after she loses the general. Then, of course, we'll be inundated with the "right wing conspiracy", and/or "they're picking on me because I'm a woman" excuses for why she lost the election.

I can not believe anyone questions Hillary's vote on the Iraq resolution in 2002. We had Colin Powell explaining that we had 'proof positive' and 'confirmed intelligence' that the bombs were pointed at our heads…Of course, in time, now knowing what we know, we shouldn't have gone in (but hey, we shouldn't have elected GW…oh, that's right, we didn't!). But, getting back to the Iraq resolution, what would it have taken for Obama to vote for action? I don't trust him one bit. Give me Hillary - she is a legislator and a compromiser and will get SOMETHING done in Washington - she has worked across the aisle for six years…and she shows up for votes, unlike Obama. Obama? Your mama!…Hillary in 08.

i can respect a lot of your arguements for and against the coverage of Hilary Clinton or lack there of. But the reality is when I read all these postings I know that more than half of you aren't registered voters and should shut up until you become one.

Please! The ex Philanderer-in-chief is criticizing the media now? Do the American people really want this man who sullied and disgraced the highest office in the land back in the White House??? The less we hear of this sexual predator, the better.

Mr. Clinton,

It is not just about their experience, but about the person's character and who they really are as well. I think very few people would vote for you again. Yes, you have the experience, but your character is questionable (commiting perjury while still in office).

We voters are also concerned about the fact that Mrs. Clinton's campaign staffers are planting people and questions in the audience at debates. Like it or not, this makes a voter wonder about the character of the candidate and who they really are. We already know she has experience in the Senate. Do we want her as president, though?

Hillary experience come from all the years of on the job training and then she used the training to be senator, She did a good job and they ask her to come back again, That show she ready for the job,It's good that Bill stand up for his wife, GO HILLARY!!!!

Let's talk about experience in public office, shall we?

Bill Richardson: 14 years US House, 1 year Ambassador to the UN, 3 years Secretary of Energy, 4 years Governor of New Mexico.

Joe Biden: 34 years US Senate.

Chris Dodd: 6 Years US House, 26 years US Senate.

Dennis Kucinich: 1 year Mayor of Cleveland, 10 years US House.

Barack Obama: 8 years Illinois state senate, 2 years US senate

John Edwards: 6 years US senate plus a vice presidential run.

Hillary Clinton: 6 years US senate.

HRC is one of the least qualified candidates in terms of experience in public office of the current Democratic field. And, sorry, but spouse of the president is not a public office.

She wants to run the most powerful country in the world but hubby has to run to her rescue when those bad old reporters actually ask and insist on an answer from her. Maybe the press finally realized that if a Clinton's lips are moving; they must be lying.

Hilary's 2002 war vote is simply explained. The sitting president put forth false information to the congress, the american people, and the world. I remember, and was mislead too. Hilary is clearly the best choice of all, democrats and republicans. The only real detraction from her is the concern that after 2 terms, the presidency will have been 28 years in 2 families. Too much "dynasty".

And, Bill is 100% correct that the press focuses on the "horse race", to the exclusion of all else. The press is a bunch of political nerds and celebrity-watchers, gossiping about whether the coach will run this play or that one. Another word would be LOSERS who don't have the talent for the real game.

I like how most people who have posted here seems to merely be using this as a medium to push their own agendas. Just like the politicians.

How sad.

Where is this on CNN? A federal grand jury on Tuesday indicted Norman Hsu, a top Democratic fundraiser accused of cheating investors of at least $20 million and using some of the money to make illegal donations to political candidates including Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The press bashing of Hillary has been obvious from the start. The media has always tried to make it a campaign between personalities, not a campaign of issues. From the right wing Fox to the moderaate CNN, there are ridiculous comments about her hair, clothes, and nonsense. However, it won't work. Hillary will be our next President.
Just in the nick of time.

If she is so good for regular Americans, how come she has said not a word about Duncan Hunter's blooper in the last debate? Nor has she said anything about the same Duncan Hunter blooper video on Youtube? I think if she really was for regular working Americans she would have said something right after the debate. Not a word from her.

A vote for Obama is a vote for Guliani. Come Nov 2008, Obama will not withstand the laundry list of Gulianis' experience when Guliani makes it the priority issue.

President Clinton is absolutely right.

If this campaign was about public records and substance Senator Obama wouldn't even be a contender.

The press wants to make it a horserace, even if it isn't.

So let me get this a campaign whose only claim to fame are polls is now saying looking at the polls is bad and we should be looking at policy proposals. My or my, Sen. Clinton's internal polling of the primaries must be really bad. Sorry but if you build your campaign on your "inevitablity" and cite polls to support it, then you cannot complain when those polls start going south on you and people start talking about you being in "free fall" and your grasp on the nomination quickly slipping. Those who live by the polls lose by the polls.

Bill was a very good president. But I'm losing respect for him. Like his wife, he's getting desperate. His stature is falling, and he is losing his future as an elder statesman.

Obama should never be nominated because
(a) inexperience,
(b) poor score in handling political issues per democrat voters,
(c) his nomination will hurt other democratic candidates in house and senate, and
(d) he will lose to the republican nominee.

Jon-Pittsburgh,Pa… Hillary won with67% of the vote in N.Y…The inventor of waterboarding keeps winning with 90% of the vote in Mass…YOUR POINT ???

One small problem, Bill. Being your wife, and thus the White House Hostess, is not indicative of "political experience," or "public life."

Those sobriquets are meant for those who have accomplished positive change. Hillary has not.

She has:

1. Made $100K in cattle futures - at odds of 100,000,000,000 to 1 - obviously a patent fraud

2. Alienated everyone in the country who knows how to think

3. Condoned Bill's adultery, and due to her lack of sexual drive with men, fostered it

4. Committed most of what Bill Clinton was impeached for - mis and malfeasance in office

5. Killed? No one will ever know.

6. Had a failed healthcare initiative that, in fact, was actually illegal for her to propose or lobby for (she never registered as a lobbyist, and White House Hostess is not a public position but a private courtesy designation)

7. Cheated New Yorkers out of a Senator. New York: you have been carpetbagged and don't even understand it

And ever so much more.

Bill, I know you need Hillary as you want to be co-President (again). But, we don't need you or her - 27 years of rule amongst just TWO FAMILIES is far to long!

Looks like Bill has nothing else to do but to use slightly irritating threats to control the media's image of his failing wife's campaign. I guess he thinks the only publicity that Billary should get is the positive one (regardless how little) and vote for his wife. He thinks he's still President LOL!!!!

Mr. Clinton, you want to talk about issues and policy? I'm so glad.
Can you explain the judgement behind your wife's vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq in 2002?

Posted By anon New York, NY : December 4, 2007 2:45 pm"

Here it goes again. What was the proportion of Americans who agreed invading Irak in 2002? Those were the facts at that time, now they are different. You are all wise now! including that Obama guy who did the yelling from the margins and conveniently missed Senate votes when needed.

Posted By Leo, VA : December 4, 2007 3:49 pm

Just to add to this GWB popularity was way up when people thought the war was done and Bush proclaimed the infamous "Mission Accomplished." So its clear that some of you folk that are on here acting like you were always against the war and want to pound Hillary for voting for it are just hypocritical opportunist. And by the way just like the tide changed on the war it is changing back as far as the Republicans are concerned now that the surge seems to be producing positive results and you Obama supporters are putting a candidate in that they are gonna hammer on his National Security decisions. That "i Was against the war" that Obama is shouting from every rooftop thats a positive for him in the Primary could very well be his undoing if the questioning of his strength on National security resonates when the Republicans get done talking about it ad nauseum..and you would have to be very dim to think they are not gonna go after him on it.

Lastly, very simple way to look at this experience back and forth. Who out of Hillary and Obama are the Republicans going to go after on the topic of experience or lack thereof in the general election. I don't dislike Obama, I just don't feel he is the best candidate we have at this time. Period.

Yes! Yes! Finally someone who makes sense. I am sick of the media's coverage and I use that term loosely, of the silliness in this campaign. Let's talk about experience and issues. They are ALL going negative. Why do you think Edwards and Obama are moving up in polls?

I am a lifetime Democrat that is struggling with who to support in this race. I would like to hear more about records and stands on specific issues and less name calling and mud slinging. I would also like to point out that those that criticize Obama as a "young inexperienced muslim from Chicago" and Clinton for lack of experience outside of "being Bill's wife" and "picking china patterns for the White House" that Senator Clinton and Senator Obama both hold elected, respected positions in our US Senate. Maybe the voters could use a little more education as well this time around.

Barack Obama IS NOT A MUSLIM, never was, and he has way more experience that matters than Hillary. Every project she was in charge of as first lady was a disaster. Look it up. Her health care plan didn't fly, and her job of picking the United States Secretary of State was equally a disaster. She is a failure. Vote Obama!

Look, the American public has given Hillary the benefit of the doubt when it comes to experience. That is why every poll shows her way ahead of the other candidates on that specific issue. Despite the fact that most of the other candidates on stage have far more than she when it comes to holdling public office. Her position in the White House could have been removed with a divorce paper as opposed to a trial and vote by both houses of congress. I would think that Bill Richardson would have Hill beat on experience in several different areas, most especially running government. What worries Bill and Hill is the fact that this election is about change, not experience. So the real question is which candidate can bring about the changes that the voting American public want?

Poor little Hillary has to have her hubby protect her.

Most of her "public record" is locked away!!! its not public. and how about the 'fun' part of the campaign, attacking other democrats, she stopped talking about herself a couple weeks ago.

Clinton at least got some good news just now with a new general election poll from Ohio that has her winning 3 out of her 4 match-ups. Only McCain beats her — convincingly. link.

Jon from Pittsburgh:

Mrs. Clinton ran with only token opposition in 2006. She actually received fewer votes than the non-incumbent candidate for governor, Eliot Spitzer, who got 72%.

Al Gore and John Kerry both got 60% of the vote in New York. New York is one of the bluest states in the country!

Hillary has the strength to lead. The media is pushing Obama ahead to create a story. Does the media ever really critique him? He is an idea, not a proven leader. The whole dynamic is very strange and it is as if the media is trying to create drama when it was already clear Hillary would win the nomination. Hillary will win in the end becasue she can best lead America and the world. She won her second term seat in the Senate with 67% of the vote. She is a proven success.

Hell Yes!!! WE WERE READY TO GO TO WAR, as was most everyone who felt attacked on 9/11, I guess obama didn’t feel that way. At that point EVERY POLITICAN/ TRUE AMERICAN WAS READY TO GO TO WAR! And if obama was not affected by the murders in NY on 9/11, he is a disgrace to this great country. Over and over again he shows his inexperience and weakness, too weak to be Commander in Chief. HILLARY CINTON WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT

Simply having been in the same room and socializing with other world leaders doesn't count as much international experience in my book.

The Clinton Campaign is making a fool of themselves. This nonsense about a 3rd grade story about wanting to be president, makes me think they must have inside polls that are worse than the published ones. In the last debate, when the candidates walked to the platform, the first two shook each others hand… Obama then went on the platform, shook hands and up walks Hillary, not only would she not even pretend to be friendly, her body language was scary.. why does she HATE Obama? no eye contact, not a touch, she acted repelled. What is up with this? Why such hatred? Her campaign is just going into the gutter. This will make many blacks who have given her support wonder what they~ve done. Did their own inner-racism come, didn't they believe that a black man could win.

I always believed HIllary Clinton was a good woman. Now, I seriously have my doubts. Could it be she resents this 'uppity' black man?

for those that r totting experience, how came bill wasnt for the war, and yet his wife was for the war ,yet they claim to share the same experience? fishy

actually, obama was emphatically against the war in iraq despite the fact that the majority of the american public (our elected officials obviously included) was effectively duped by the neocon war machine. he, as an illinois state senator, made an impassioned speech in which he declared all the reasons that the war in iraq was not the right response to the situation. in hindsight, he is the only one who looks like he knew what he was talking about, despite his alleged lack of experience.

When the vast majority of the country was revved up about going to war and the supposed check on the president's unilateral power (congress) was too, going against that tide was not easy to do. its even more difficult knowing that your name is barak obama, your middle name is the same as the last name of the leader we were seeking to depose, and knowing that those obscenely racist people both from the left and the right will attack you as a "terrorist", a "pro-terrorist", "muslim operative", etc.

all that being the case, obama had the judgment and foresight to know that we would be committing a foreign policy disaster by going into iraq, and he had the courage to say so publicly, despite the immediate consequences and long term risk to his personal power, ambition, legacy and standing. he put his belief in what was and is best for our country before that of himself, his power, his ambition. can the same be said of hillary in ANY aspect of her public life, let alone the war?

in fact, hillary voted to authorize the war and in the october before the invasion gave a fiery speech spewing all the neocon catch phrases about iraq. she gained a brief wave of support because of the drummed up sentiment of the time, and enjoyed being able to chip away at the label that she was "soft", in order to bolster her presidential ambition. she either didnt have the judgment to see the error in doing so (and her alleged experience certainly didnt help); or even worse - she saw that the war was wrong, but lacked the courage to risk appearing weak by speaking out against it.

so yeah, experience is great. but most of the records of her "experience" are withheld at the request of the clintons. the rest displays an utter lack of strength, individuality, leadership, and judgment; and instead reflects more of the same BS talking points that we've unfortunately grown accustomed to.

Remember, after the Chicago Bulls' first 3-peat, John Paxson was just as "experienced" a player as Michael Jordan. That didnt make John Paxson qualified to lead the team to the next 3 set of championships. He, while contributing with marginal success when called upon, was essentially a spectator to the MJ show. Is hillary's "experience" in the white house any different?

I'm ashamed of what I see here….. Let us not forget that at the onset of this race everyone was hoping for a Clinton/Obama ticket to win the White House & who is to say it won't happen. If these haggard comments about the Clinton's are from registered Democrats - keep your votes at home. This election is about HISTORY, CHANGE, THE FUTURE, REPARATION… George Bush has been the face of much lack, inexperience, misguidedness and a position of the people that is not FOR THE PEOPLE. Pettiness that trips up the process of getting we citizens to that golden place of peace is not just done by the media, or hungry campaigns, or financially controlled organizations but simple folks like those here who let those things cloud their judgement. This country needs a serious candidate! A new image! A knowledged & intellectual force that will restore our dignity and put this country on a new road better, bigger and brighter than that of our founding fathers. Be proud of the people who devote their lives to that call - no one is perfect - pick up a mirror!

Is this guy for real?

You would vote for her Bill?, you don't even want her as your wife as you PROVED MANY, MANY times.

If she wasn't your wife, these nitwit Clintonista's would not know her from a hole in the wall.

Blaming the media now Bill, please shut up, the media has been part and parcel to her coronation and I FOR ONE WANT IT, just so she can lose the general election and walk away in shambles and in shame.

You can then finally divorce her, just like you wanted to long ago.

Typical Clintonism, blame everyone else for your lies, mistakes and troubles.

After finding out if the public likes him saying this or not, she will say "that my husband doesn't speak for me" and the sheep will applaud her stance.

"Ahhhh, it's the vast right-wing/left wing media conpiracy after wittle ol' Hillary".

Pathetic.

As a long-time Democrat who actually voted for Hillary Clinton for New York senator, I can say that she has gotten a very light treatment by the press. Consider what the other supposed front-runner - Giuliani - is being treated to. They are exposing all his scandals, and continually reporting on them. Clinton so far has managed to keep the press from lingering too long on her scandals, especially about Hsu, about Chinatown fundraising, and the list goes on.

I have said this before, but it is worth repeating: I will not make the mistake of voting for Hillary Clinton again - her judgment as a senator has made me regret my vote deeply.

Ok…..I think the question we have to ask, especially since Oprah Winfrey is a supporter of someone who lacks experience, is if she has ever hired or promoted someone to an extremely high executive level position that lacked expereince as well. Then we shall see if she really supports this method of choosing the right candidate within her company and every day life. If she has not….then she has no right to support Obama. Let's all vote that Oprah has to hire a 25 year old who just graduated from college three years ago to run her company. Oprah….I challenge you!!!!

This is getting so tiresome, watching the Clintons prattle on and on about subjects they clearly care little about. This primary race has taught me the dramatic fundamental differences between people. I see Hillary Clinton on television and the hair on the back of my neck goes straight up. I then want to scream and yell and call her on every slimy half-truth that comes out of her mouth. But my roomate can sit there and say, "Eh, she's not that awful." I don't get it.

Is he trying to lose it for her? Billy boy, shut up already! Everything you have said for the past two weeks have only hurt Hillary. You're definitely not helping her at all!

No one can match the Bill Clinton legacy. Let good will and better judgements prevail once again like 1992.
Democrats lets do it again and beat the Republicans.

Hillary 08

As a executive director of a chamber of commerce and a part time economic developer I am concerned people are not seeing experience as important. The issues this nation and the country is dealing with are so critical, that it is imperative we have an experienced person as the next president. We need someone that does not need to be trained.

Posted By micki sumpter ellsworth, maine : December 4, 2007 2:54 pm

excuse me who in the world was trained to be a president,they is no college or university in america that trains prsidents. which training did clinton do before he became president? or his wife? i will tell you one thing that you missed out in college or uni, one can only be a good president or a bad president thats that,they are people here who think all that experience crap matters ,i am suprised that a man of your caliber would buy in to this . being a president is like being a good busnessman either of the two good one or bad one.america right now is like a busness entity ,avery thing that we do depends on money. bill clinton is a good example of what i am saying good economics before he lift office and people love him for that.but bill is not hill period. good busness comes with good customer service and that my friend is domestic and foreign policy. thats what obama is about.

So much material to work with….

Assuming we are stupid enough to elect this woman….

"Pres HRC finishes addressing the United Nations, or any other group and suffers a sound defeat on her proposal to do (fill in a topic)".

Two days later Slick Willy will come in to explain to whoever what she really meant to say, bash those for "piling on" and say the treatment to her was "not fair".

Clinton: Experience by osmosis, no accomplisnments, her "positions" on key issues are unknown, shady background, will spend you tax $$ as fast as she can, and that is being kind, all for/against amnesty

Obama: No experience other public service, international experience as a 6-10 year old, maybe in 10-12 years he should run if he can show a track record of meaningful accopmplishments, will spend your tax $$ as fast as he can.

Edwards: Whines too much, trial lawyer, looks good though

Richardson: Human rights trump National Security, end of conversation

Sadly, the GOP candidates are not much better.

Time for a third party

I concede that President Clinton experienced success in another decade. But he has lost any credibility for a new generation yearning for collaborative, transcendent politics.

His "attack dog" remarks against Obama are both frivolous and "unbecoming" of a former President. Imagine– for the first time in history, he has sacrificed the dignified high road every former president should travel in public affairs.

Each day we hear him and the former first lady smearing the press and the Democrats who don't support Senator Clinton's White House bid, or whoever they perceive as an obstacle to power. We also knows he lies, whether about his views on Iraq or his personal life– and he disragards factual truth whether or not he is under oath. Basic character flaws do not change over time.

Imagine how independents and Republicans feel if I, a Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in my life, feels so strongly. The accurate perception that the Clintons are out of date and not morally centrered is the main reason Senator Clinton needs to be defeated. We also cannot fail to to be wary that President Clinton is running, in effect, for a third and fourth term himself, and he will bring back the same defamatory, dishonest, and hard knuckle tactics that have contributed to our broken political system.

The Arkansas couple has never been idealistic or respectful of anyone who oppose their personal ambitions.

We can do better. I favor Obama, but would celebrate the nomination of Edwards, Biden, Dodd, or even Richardson over Senator Clinton. She and the former President are a true danger to our system because they are mean spirited and focused solely on personal power, rather than on a transcendent change for America.

Well, Mr. Clinton, as far as any negative publicity towards Hillary is concerned, it depends on what "is concerned" is.

"For those who believe that "experience" is of utmost importance in running for national office, I have two words to consider- "Dick Cheney"."

You know he was able to hold secret meetings and then get an enrgy policy adopted.

Hillary on the other hand held secret meetings and failed to get healthcare adopted.

He may be darth vader but he is effective.

Norman Hsu was indicted today. He was charged with 15 counts. Why am I not surprised that CNN says nothing about it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aVIRM6Ct5MRM&refer=us

Bubba is a proven pathalogical liar and her highness has learned well from him. For the good of America, just PLEASE go away back to Arkansas.

Hey Bill, maybe we should focus on Hillary's pre-school record of experience in the same way she's attacking Obama's kindegarden essays on wanting to be President.

I haven't laughed so much in ages. Thank you Mrs. and Mr. Clinton for providing such incredible slapstick entertainment.

Keep on complaining buddy, and you'll just keep on slip and sliding.

Obama 08

You have to admire such devotion to his wife- now that he's old, ugly and undesireable.

Complaining is not a path to victory. The Obama campaing knows it; you would be hard pressed to find a single instance where Sen. Obama or senior campaign officials openly complained about anything. Since Sen. Obama represents the best choice for Democrats, I suggest that the Clinton campaign should continue to through tantrums.

Three things:
1. Hillary's record is tainted, otherwise she'd release it in a beat.
2. Experience+ poor judgement and Experience + Good judgement
Bill was elected on the later and he should be the last to tout experience only as most important.
3. Boo hoo hoo, does not help. When Obama was attacked on experience by Hillary's naive & inexperienced remark and by the media right from the beginning, he did not whine all over, but went on to put his case to the American people very systematically. That is strength, thats leadership.
Its too bad that both Hillary and her husband Bill, instead of putting "their good records" straight, are whining as if someone is wrongly taking what belongs to them

Ok, here we go:

it was Bush's fault for fooling Clinton on her 2002 vote to go to war in Iraq - not Hillary's fault

it was Bill's fault her health care failed in the 90's - not Hillary's fault

it was Bush's fault again that Hillary voted for the Iran resolution - not Hillary's fault

Now, it's the medias fault for not focusing on her vast experience - not Hillary's fault for not releasing her papers from her 1st lad