December 4, 2007
Posted: 11:17 AM ET

Giuliani's support has dropped 9 points in one month, according to a new poll.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The presidential race in both parties isn't just tightening in the key early-voting states, but across the rest of country as well, according to a new USA Today/Gallup poll out Monday evening.

One month before Iowa and New Hampshire voters kick off the presidential primary season, the poll seems to show nationwide support for frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani has dropped considerably from this time a month ago.

Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, is down 9 percentage points in one month while Clinton, the senator from New York, has seen her support drop 11 points. Both Clinton and Giuliani's declines are the biggest one-month drop they have seen since the presidential election season began.

"The movement away from the frontrunners may be a sign that the public is starting to pay attention to the election, and may be moving beyond the "name recognition" phase," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "It's an early indication of what might happen after Iowa and New Hampshire, when a few second-tier candidates will get instant name recognition to rival that of Clinton and Giuliani."

One-time dark horse candidate Mike Huckabee has shot up to second place in the national survey, now 9 percentage points behind Giuliani, 25 percent to 16 percent. Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson are one point behind at 15 percent. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is just behind the pack with 12 percent.

Responding to the poll, Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella said, "We’ve been saying from the beginning that this race was always going to tighten. But when you look at the numbers, Rudy has been consistently leading in every major national poll since February. Unlike some other candidates, Mayor Giuliani has steady strength and real staying power."

On the Democratic side, Clinton's lead now stands at 15 percentage points over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, 39 percent to 24 percent. In last month's poll Clinton's lead was 28 percent over the Illinois senator. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards stands at 15 percent, meanwhile, with the rest of the field in single digits.

While Clinton's support is down, Holland notes no single Democrat is the direct beneficiary.

"No single candidate has emerged as the ABC — Anybody-but-Clinton — candidate," he said. "Edwards went up 3, Obama went up 3, [New Mexico Gov. Bill] Richardson went up 2, [Delaware Sen. Joe] Biden went up 2. That's how Clinton maintains a double-digit lead — Democrats may be moving away from her, but they aren’t moving toward one of her rivals."

The poll surveyed 425 Republicans and leaning Republicans and 494 Democrats and leaning Democrats on November 30 through December 2. It carries a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Related video: CNN's Candy Crowley reports it's a dead heat in Iowa with a month to go

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Iowa • New Hampshire • Presidential Candidates • South Carolina


terry   December 30th, 2007 3:56 pm ET

women, wake up if we put a women in for presidesnt, we will lose all our credibility

Paul, New Orleans, LA   December 17th, 2007 2:14 pm ET

The polls are a joke, there has been evidence that Ron Paul's name has not even been included in the poll. Don't worry, the people spoke on Sunday!

Josh, Cleveland, OH   December 16th, 2007 8:22 am ET

Go OBAMA! You know, after reading the news on CNN I have a strong feeling that they are on Clinton's side. I read a lot of news, and you can depend on them to try and steal Obama's power. I hope people see through it. I'm always surprised to hear them say anything good about him, but its usually followed by something saying "but Hillary has more experience". This has really tarnished my view of CNN

George, South, Florida   December 8th, 2007 12:46 am ET

Can someone out there tell me why they are afraid to have Sen. Hillary Clinton as President of this here U.S.A.
My wife is a Republican and she states that Hillary is smart and clever. She states that she doesnt trust Sen. Cinton. However she cannot name one thing, not one fact, that can be backed up with factual evidence.

I ask those of you who are against Hillary for President to please lay out FACTS, not a case of he said, she said. Thank you.
George

Al-kanemi, Grambling, LA   December 5th, 2007 9:21 pm ET

I agree 100% of what African-American state Sen. Robert Ford said, when he announced he was backing Hillary Clinton.

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

how stupid for state senator Ford ( an african american) to say that..very low opinionated of the black race, he is one of those few blacks that rise up and looks down on his own people.it's not race or gender that matters, it is who is qualified. Obama has better judgement.

Billy J Austin, Tx   December 5th, 2007 12:09 pm ET

Edwards!
If you are reading this, then you probably have been following the candidates for awhile. C'mon, admit it, Edwards is the best man for the job, if you are looking for a true populist who will look after EVERYONE not just the influential. Your place in the economic strata means much more than your gender or race these days. Both Barack and Hillary represent different types of American political elitism that you won't find in Edwards or many of the other democrats for that matter. Please, Please, Please look and listen ….

Edwards is the best friend the middle class and disadvantaged are gonna have as president for a long time. Don't miss this opportunity.

Russ, Pittsburgh, PA   December 5th, 2007 10:00 am ET

Well, Russ, if you look at the polling data itself, you will find that there is a long list of questions, stating things like, "do you support, not support, or have you never heard of…Hillary Clinton/Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney", etc. You will find, if you read through all of the questions, those polled were not asked if they supported, did not support, or had never heard of Ron Paul. He was omitted from the poll. At the very bottom, the general question is asked of who you would most support in the Republican/Democrat primary (or some question to that effect). Here's where you see your 4%. Nice.

Posted By Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio : December 4, 2007 2:09 pm

Well Mr. Drake,

The actual question was "(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party) Which candidates would you be most likely to support for the Republican nomination for president in 2008, or if you would support someone else."

You can say they haven't heard of him all you want, but the answer still is Paul 4%, McCain 15%, and Thompson 15%. As you can see only 4% support him, as compared to 15% for McCain and Thompson. So you can see that he is in no way shape or form, virtually tied with Mcain or Thompson. As of this moment 94% of the people questioned, do not support Ron Paul, that is why he gets little to no coverage.

Darrel @Lone Rock Iowa   December 5th, 2007 9:34 am ET

bleeped 6 times now by cnn on the rudy and hillary poll falling.
whats the matter cnn can't you post the truth.
Your bias is getting in the way of the free press. The Murdocks are in controll

Darrel @Lone Rock Iowal   December 5th, 2007 9:30 am ET

Just to see what CNN is up to I am put this truthfull information out
Rudy and Hillary are slipping Right we can all see this.
Why?
Corruption Scandle run deep in there veins.
The no longer silent majority will be out in full force to rid themselves of the Rudy and Hillary types from running our goverment. Just that simple

Independant/from Iowa/Darrel   December 5th, 2007 9:23 am ET

Cnn is certainly picking and chooseing my post these days 0 out of 5 made latly.
anyway
The Middle Class working Americans that have not been represented in the past 15 years will vote for a clean up and when they do Hillary and anyone like her will truly know what a free fall the wiil be taking. It has been the most dimm/corrupt wag the finger lying self serving politicians we have ever seen in public display. Enough already/ Term limitations for starters/line item veto to curb ear marks and pork barrel tactics/ If it don't stand on its own it should not stand/ The tit for tat mentality of washington is wrong! Even stupid, as it don't pass the common sense test.
and that is important to me

Terry, El Paso, TX   December 5th, 2007 8:49 am ET

Americans hate negative advertising in political campaigns. However, those same people will vote for those who produce the negative advertising.

Four years ago, I heard a woman talking about how how much she hates negative advertising. I asked her who she was going to vote for. She said, "I haven't decided yet, but I'm certainly not going to vote for a flip-flopper and coward like Kerry!"

HILLARY 2008   December 5th, 2007 8:19 am ET

It’s also obvious from the last debate that John Edwards is fighting with anything he can think of, which we need a fighter; he’s only attacking Hillary though? As the good ole boys are sticking together, is he scared of oprah and obama? The reason you’re not hearing allot of negative about obama because OBAMA IS TOO INEXPERIENCED, there is no history, other than he doesn’t show up for work, he's missed almost all important senate votes? We already had a president the played instead of worked, look at this mess…What’s has this guy been doing? now he thinks he can use Oprah’s money to buy the Presidency? HE IS CRAZY as she is…

After recent weeks and the personal attacks, I strongly now see the best choice and my vote will go to CLINTON, we need her contacts as well as the great relationships President Clinton has with other countries and experience, to work together so that other counties will share the bill and world security. We do not have time to play politics with the likes of obama and rest of these guys…
John Edwards would be an outstanding VP for Hillary

CLINTON 2008, the true SMART choice

Mrs. Feilds Iowa   December 5th, 2007 7:57 am ET

Democrats are going to be reluctant to nominate someone they know so little about as Obama and will wonder if the nation is ready for a candidate who has ONLY been a senator for 104 weeks before running for president and missing ALL imprtant votes.(it's not!!). Don;t waste your vote for obama in IOWA,They will also wonder about nominating Edwards, who lost twice in 2004. When the question becomes viability, Hillary is in a league of her own with her ability to bring new female voters to the polls. Not becuase she has a TV show,becuase she is the best candidate running thsi election

Megan Christian Iowa   December 5th, 2007 7:37 am ET

How come the polls only mean anyting when Clinton slips, (but stays a head of her rivals?? My vote was for Edwards, but the more I read and hear, CLINTON is what we need ASAP! sorry John, if you had stayed on issues and stopped the stupid Hill bashing you stood a chance, now your acting like obama winphrey and that gives the Smart American people a bad taste, like oprah has…
I THINK THE MEDIA SHARES RESPONSIBILITY FOR EFFECTING OUR PRESIDENTAL ELECTION… THATS A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY, FOX NEWS "THE REPUBLICAN NETWORK" HELPED GET BUSH RE-ELECTED…

Mark Vestweber, Ames Iowa   December 4th, 2007 7:26 pm ET

In a recent campaign stop in New Hampshire, Bill Clinton made sharp remarks about what he thinks is an obvious disregard by the media for candidate experience. I think what he fails to take into consideration is the fact that Americans, at this stage, genuinely just want to know what kind of people the candidates are. I believe many Americans decide their candidate based on character. How passionate they are and how real they feel. Now more than ever, many Americans are feeling like the government is failing them, that politicians are nothing more than a bunch of pocket stuffing opportunists.

And when you consider that some of the most experienced politicians in Washinton have led us to some of the most disasterous policies in this country's history, it seems obvious to me why experience might not be a central issue for many Americans.

Experience and good judgement are two different things Mr. Clinton.

Pacifica, CA   December 4th, 2007 6:56 pm ET

Hillary Rocks! America will be so blessed if she is our Commander in Chief…Bushonomics is finally coming to an end…

Andrew, Haslett, MI   December 4th, 2007 6:09 pm ET

I have to ask, how can so many otherwise liberal people be seriously supporting Ron Paul? Here is a guy who:
1: Believes the 2nd amendment should be extended to military-style machine guns.

Wrong. Ron Paul doesn't believe that specifically, but he does believe, correctly, that there is nothing in the 2nd Amendment which classifies the types of weapons which private citizens are allowed to possess. He is a strict constructionist. I do not personally believe that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms at all (as it states that citizens may possess firearms as the result of being part of a militia; this would seem to imply that a member of any armed force or unit dedicated to the protection of a town, city, or state would also qualify, but not individuals with no affiliation to any of these groups) but I can read well enough to see that there's nothing in the Constitution which discusses specific firearms. This is a case of a guaranteed freedom somehow being a bad thing.

2: Believes in the "war on Christmas".

If you mean that there is a growing trend to secularize anything and everything in this country, then I'd go along with that. It's become increasingly obvious that US culture is more concerned with offending anyone by merely mentioning, or god forbid, celebrating, long-standing religious institutions such as Christmas. When companies and even people are so afraid to wish someone "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hannukah" or "Happy Kwanzaa" for fear of offending, intimidating, or alienating them, it is a sad state indeed. Normal people find this stupid, and while the founders of the Constitution did make it clear that a state religion should not be established, they also were religious men and that clearly influenced their thinking when writing it. For us to ignore that would also be stupid.

3: Opposes network neutrality.

It would be more accurate to say that Ron Paul opposes government regulation of any kind on the Internet. It would also be accurate to say that Ron Paul opposes taxing the Internet like many of our fine Congresspeople want to do. Network neutrality is another word for the government sticking its nose in where it doesn't belong, messing up free trade.

4: Is staunchly pro-life.

Yes, but be also believes that the legal issue must be left up to the states and there should be no federal interference, no marriage ban, no amendments to the Constitution regarding abortion or marriage. The reason is that it is not up to the federal government to force the states to recognize marriages or abortion laws they wouldn't otherwise.

5: Opposes the existence of the Department of Education.

And the Department of Energy and the IRS and many other government agencies which only serve to further the interests of the federal government messing with things that are state issues. Schools are run by the states, energy is run by private enterprise and neither need to be regulated by the government; in fact regulation by these agencies stifles growth and prosperity.
I have read from teachers where they disagreed with every one of Dr. Paul's positions except abolishing the Dept. of Education. Clearly, those who are bound by its policies are not exactly happy with it. There are other major candidates who are also in favor of eliminating waste and cutting spending in order to protect the US economic system as well.

6: Opposes individual democracy by opposing direct-election of senators and supporting the electoral college.

Abolishing the electoral college could also weaken the power of individual voters by giving disproportionate power to higher populated states on the east and west coast. It is up to the states how to cast their electoral votes, so if they wanted a more representative election process, they could do any number of things, not the least of which would be to apportion their electoral votes according to the distribution of the popular vote in the districts, instead of awarding them all to the candidate with the highest number of votes. California is entertaining a bill that would do this and 2 other states already do. This is a complex issue with no good solution for those who are dissatisfied with the electoral college.

7: Opposes the existence of the Department of Energy.

Likely for the same reasons as the IRS and Dept. of Education.

The guy wants to put this nation back basically on the course it was on in the nineteenth century. I understand that he has the appeal of standing up for his principles, but his principles would damage the country.

No, he wants to return the country to the way it was governed in the 19th century, in which the civil liberties of its citizens were not hampered by excess regulation, and the size of government was not as monstrous as it is now, where the power of the people was more important than the needs of the state. It is apparent that you don't truly understand the reasons behind his positions, but I suggest you delve a little deeper. You will find that Ron Paul's message is all about hope for this country, individual freedom for all, and keeping the government out of our lives where it does not belong. That is why I and so many others support his candidacy and his election would be a huge step forward to ending this corruption and fallacy that we need to sacrifice freedom to have prosperity.

They just don't bother asking questions about people who aren't in a position to win. Until Ron Paul breaks into the mainstream–which, despite his ardent support here, he has failed to do–the mainstream media probably won't pay too much attention to him. It's not bias against his views, just his popularity.

Posted By Steve, Landing, NJ : December 4, 2007 3:32 pm

I disagree. How can you know who is in a position to win before a single vote has been cast? The fact that he has raised more money this quarter than ALL candidates last quarter, and is actually raising more money than most of his rivals puts him in a very good position to win. Aside from this, if CNN lets polls dictate their coverage, why don't they cover that he has won half of all straw polls he participated in, including the most recent one in Virginia? With the media wielding such enormous power over the information we see and hear about this election, you would think they would want to inform us on ALL the candidates, if they were truly interested in fair journalism. However, they are only interested in covering the top 3, so the media chooses our candidates for us.

Don't let this happen. Do your research and vote your conscience, not just what the media, the party, and the establishment tells you to. There is no such thing as "wasting your vote". This nonsense is propagated by the news too but it is total rubbish.

Freedom of information, freedom for us! Ron Paul 2008!

Hart, moosejaw, saskatchewan   December 4th, 2007 5:54 pm ET

If Obama gets elected, I will move to Canada!

Dem, orlando, florida   December 4th, 2007 5:41 pm ET

Several of these republican candidates had divorces and personal health problems (cancer). What a bad bunch wanting to be the president!

Claudia, Tucson, AZ   December 4th, 2007 5:22 pm ET

I am so tired of the bigotry and hatred that is being shown on these blogs toward Obama. He is fresh and with new ideas. Our country is in crisis and all some can do is bicker. Hillary is to be respected for what she has accomplished but she is incredibly divisive. If we practice the true "American way" Obama can win the White House. Obama/Edwards Edwards/Obama ticket would do our country well.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   December 4th, 2007 5:11 pm ET

Voters are thinking independently thank God. We are separating facts from fiction looking for a complete overhaul which will give the government back to the people. It's not surprise to see the polls change as they will continue to do so.

sarah el paso TX   December 4th, 2007 4:05 pm ET

If Obama loses the nomination he should run as an independent

Brad, Stockton, CA   December 4th, 2007 3:56 pm ET

Keep checking the pollsm with any luck she will end at zero.

Je Sui, PA   December 4th, 2007 3:49 pm ET

I wish Americans were as courageous as the French people who demonstrate each time they feel cheated by politicians. We are just a bunch of lazy passive americans who sit around the television screen and get fat while the politicians play with our emotions.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 3:32 pm ET

Jonathan Drake–

Yes, Paul was left out of that poll question. So were Tancredo, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, and Hunter. Notice how only people who had double-digits in the last question had a question devoted entirely to them?

Huckabee was ignored the same way until very recently. They just don't bother asking questions about people who aren't in a position to win. Until Ron Paul breaks into the mainstream–which, despite his ardent support here, he has failed to do–the mainstream media probably won't pay too much attention to him. It's not bias against his views, just his popularity.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 3:26 pm ET

Dan, USA–

And look what happened to Gore, he gave up an election that he should've cake-walked. Fact is, the majority of Americans never stopped liking Bill Clinton.

'Course, that's no reason to vote for his wife.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 3:24 pm ET

Freda–

I believe Ron Paul's a stand-up guy, I'm just not sure what the average person thinks he's going to accomplish for the country. All I hear about him is that he's a genuine guy, not a politicians, stands by his beliefs, etc. etc. Not why anyone thinks his beliefs are the correct ones.

Doug, New Jersey   December 4th, 2007 3:24 pm ET

The far left extremists control the democratic party and all I have done is factually post what they are saying (check out DU and daily kos ETC). It is insane to take issue with the messenger and ignore the message. If you want to vote Democrat, fine, go for it. I just want you to know what you are supporting. The extremists who control the Democratic party say that church going Americans are the same as those out in the streets in the Middle East calling for this teacher to be put to death. It's simple, if you agree with that kind of hate, ignorance and dishonesty that is the far left, then vote Democrat, if not vote against them.

Just remember what you are voting for, that's all. Remember when you vote for Hillary you are voting for the far left, the people who have equated church going Americans to these extremists who want this teacher killed. The woman who has said, "We are going to take things from you for the common good" (Hillary's exact words). You want to vote for Marxism and hate, go for it.

Freda, Greenwich, CT   December 4th, 2007 3:16 pm ET

I used to live in a neighborhood called Chasewood in Missouri City, Texas. When Ron Paul was campaigning for the House of Representatives over thirty years ago, he stopped and talked with me about his views on many things. We talked for a very long time and he sent notes and newsletters to my home after he was elected. I felt he cared about me as a person who lived in his district. He was interested in my opinion on many issues. I would vote for Ron Paul for president of the USA.
I am an Independent but I was a Democrat at that time. I am also of African American and Native American heritage.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 2:54 pm ET

GO OBAMA GO!!

Sandy, West Chester, Pa.   December 4th, 2007 2:34 pm ET

Doug from NJ,
Why would you assume that liberal Democrats aren't church going people? I'm a bleeding heart liberal and I could not be more proud of my country. I'm also very active in my church. I'm proud to be a Christian and a Democrat. It appears that you have deemed 'liberal Democrats' to be public enemy number 1 and I'm just wondering why you have such animosity towards your fellow American's?

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:31 pm ET

It's kinda funny how all the liberals here so a conservative bias, and all the conservatives see a liberal bias, and all the Obama-supporters see a Clinton-bias, and all the Clinton-supports see an Obama-bias… Apophenia, anyone?

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   December 4th, 2007 2:30 pm ET

Dough,
are you listening to yourself? do you think ALL liberals are evil? really? for your knowledge I am a fairly conservative thinking, church going, family loving, red blooded American! and by the way I will vote for Sen. Clinton for president. you want to stop the non-sense of the political parties, you look for the person that is willing to compromise and see both angles to a dispute and tries to find the common good! I have not seen that from most of these candidates. Huckabee was governor of Arkansas, his constituency has both Clinto loyalists and republicans alike he had to compromise, Romney had to do the same even though here lately he is been selling his soul to the neo-cons, but he has that experience, Sen. Clinton has the same experience from the senate, she was not afraid to back the commander-in-chief when every evidence they produced pointed in the direction of WMD, she is also not afraid to point out correctly that we must do better, she has a clear vision of what the problems of America are and she plans to enlist the best people (I dare say from all political sides) to come up with the solutions. neither Libs or Reps can fix the US by themselves.

EVERYONE VOTE! it is your duty as a citizen.

P   December 4th, 2007 2:28 pm ET

To hattmatters:
I cannot speak to Ohio, PA or Florida but, having grown up in Iowa and spent half my life there, I can tell you that whites in Iowa will vote for a black man. They will vote for a brown man or a yellow man or a woman. Iowans tend to be fairly open-minded and fair. Plus, with their first-in-the-nation status, they take their politics very seriously. They examine the issues and the candidates and come to an educated decision.
To Puck in Pittsboro:
Amen, brother! Amen.
To Mike in Milwaukee:
You might be onto something here. Has anyone polled the independents in this country to see who they like? It could be very illuminating and instructional.

Dan, USA   December 4th, 2007 2:21 pm ET

"lets see if its possible for Iowans and the rest of the country to figure out that the male republican track record is what is killing this country.

its kind of funny to notice that bill clinton is able to speak so well of Hillary and pump up her qual's…and NO ONE running for prez in the GOP wants bush [closest thing for them to their top leadership] anywhere near them.

tells ya somethin.

Posted By scott,manchester NH : December 4, 2007 11:12 am "
Hey Scott I seem to remember Al Gore and other democrats running as far as they could from Clinton a few years back. I think that tells you something too!

Whitney, Nashville, TN   December 4th, 2007 2:16 pm ET

For those of you who cite Harold Ford Jr. losing his senate race to Bob Corker as evidence that the South won't elect a Black president, I would have to disagree with you.

I am from Tennessee and while I did vote for Harold Ford Jr., I only did so because I wanted the Democrats to take control of the Senate. The Ford family has been a dominant and corrupt force in Tennessee (specifically Memphis) politics for a long time. 3 members of the Ford family have held public office in Tennessee and been indicted on federal charges. Ford's uncle John is on trial right now for bribery charges. The fact of the matter is, Tennesseans outside of Memphis do not trust the Ford family and rightfully so.

That having been said, I am 100% behind Barack Obama for president. In terms of Souther electability, he is the strongest Democratic candidate to appeal to Southern voters (arguably Edwards is stronger). People conveniently ignore that his strong Christian fate is the perfect way to counter weakening support by the Souther n Baptist set for the Republican party. Hilary Clinton is so unelectable in the South it's not even funny. The Democratic Party will be shooting itself in the foot if it nominates Hilary Clinton.

Barack Obama is both the most electable Democratic candidate and the best candidate. OBAMA 08

anon, new york, ny   December 4th, 2007 2:15 pm ET

On the other hand, USA Today/Gallup poll of June 3, 2007, six months ago, shows that Obama beat Hillary by 1 pts (30 vs 29). Now, Hillary beats Obama by 15 pts (39 vs 24). That means, for the past 6 months:

- HILLARY HAS GONE UP 20 POINTS

- OBAMA HAS GONE DOWN 5 POINTS

Obama has wasted his $80 million raised!

HURRAH HILLARY! You go girl.
Hillary 08!

Lance in Monrovia, CA   December 4th, 2007 2:13 pm ET

Obama 08. He's the future. Thank god.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 2:12 pm ET

"you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east."

Obviously I know all there is no know about libs since I knew that a lib like you could not respond to my comments without rewriting them.

So since you could not respond to what I typed and had to change it to what you could respond to, that shows you know I'm right and you are just another lib who sees Church going Americans as the same or even worse people as those calling for that teachers death.

Posted By Doug, New Jersey : December 4, 2007 2:05 pm

Doug,
I'm a 'church going' person myself and I happen to believe that we are much better than the fanatics who called for the execution of that innocent teacher. It appear that you have a big problem with people who aren't on the same page with you politically speaking.

BTW- I've never encountered anyone in my church who has as much anger and hatred for fellow American's as you do. You must be one of those church goers who believe as long as you show up on Sunday you can treat people anyway that you want to Monday - Saturday.
Get some help Doug- I would suggest anger management or perhaps just opening the bible and reading it might be a start.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:10 pm ET

I have to ask, how can so many otherwise liberal people be seriously supporting Ron Paul? Here is a guy who:
1: Believes the 2nd amendment should be extended to military-style machine guns.
2: Believes in the "war on Christmas".
3: Opposes network neutrality.
4: Is staunchly pro-life.
5: Opposes the existence of the Department of Education.
6: Opposes individual democracy by opposing direct-election of senators and supporting the electoral college.
7: Opposes the existence of the Department of Energy.

The guy wants to put this nation back basically on the course it was on in the nineteenth century. I understand that he has the appeal of standing up for his principles, but his principles would damage the country.

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 2:09 pm ET

"I don't know where you get your info, but the poll had him in with 4%. No where near the 15% of Thompson and McCain. These Ron Paul supports are so annoying, they are like that little kid in the backseat that keeps saying "Are we there yet, are we there yet". You just want to backhand them and tell them to shut up. Russ, Pittsburgh, PA."

Well, Russ, if you look at the polling data itself, you will find that there is a long list of questions, stating things like, "do you support, not support, or have you never heard of…Hillary Clinton/Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney", etc. You will find, if you read through all of the questions, those polled were not asked if they supported, did not support, or had never heard of Ron Paul. He was omitted from the poll. At the very bottom, the general question is asked of who you would most support in the Republican/Democrat primary (or some question to that effect). Here's where you see your 4%. Nice.

As for the claim of Ron Paul supporters being truthers, white supremacists, and people with tin foil hats…it's strange to me that for someone so "enlightened" as yourself, Dean from Ottawa, you obviously have not investigated Ron Paul's message for yourself. Here. http://www.ronpaul2008.com

gilliganscorner   December 4th, 2007 2:09 pm ET

Could people please stop wasting my time with comments about Ron Paul? The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats. He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.
Posted By Dean, Ottawa, Canada : December 4, 2007 1:25 pm

The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats.:
Care to back that up with any facts, Dean? That's a pretty wide brush you swing. I am sure that all the other Ron Paul supporters were as smart as you.

He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.
Your faith in the veracity of mainstream media is touching, Dean. I am sure that you place complete trust in the integrity and the ethics of media, learn what you are told, bury your critical thinking, and swallow whatever pablum they feed you.

I understand. I was like you once. It's hard when you grow up and enter the working force that things aren't quite what they tell you in school. My first awakening is when I learned about the JFK assassination. It's hard to learn that the establishment isn't looking out for you like they said they would.

I suggest you look around, Dean. If you are an intelligent person, don't be restrained by your own biases. The internet offers you a wonderful opportunity to learn things after you read the paper and watch the news. Re-discover yourself. Trigger your critical thinking skills again.

Open your eyes, man.

Ron Paul cured my apathy.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:07 pm ET

I can't believe that people are worried about different candidates now ever before Iowa and New Hampshire have held their respective races. I wish all the state would get together and move back the dates for these primaries and caucuses to April or May. All this front loading is getting stupid because you need to do all this fund raising instead of writing policies and doing the work they were elected to do. With the exception of Mike Gravel, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mit Romney, everybody is still in office and should be doing that job.

Doug, New Jersey   December 4th, 2007 2:05 pm ET

"you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east."

Obviously I know all there is no know about libs since I knew that a lib like you could not respond to my comments without rewriting them.

So since you could not respond to what I typed and had to change it to what you could respond to, that shows you know I'm right and you are just another lib who sees Church going Americans as the same or even worse people as those calling for that teachers death.

Brad, Oak Creek, WI   December 4th, 2007 2:00 pm ET

Who's Ron Paul?

anon, ny, ny   December 4th, 2007 1:59 pm ET

It dawns on me that CNN must be a republican news network.

Why there are more negative news about Hillary than Obama? For example, why CNN shows the negative, but unfounded, comments of an obama supporter, Reicht, about Hillary? Why CNN does not report negative comments from a hillary supporter?

There have been biased comments from CNN anchors. For example, Glenn Beck (who has a 1-hr show at 7pm) said he was a republican, and he talked about american people do not like Hillary.

It appears that CNN wants Obama to win the nomination, so that the republican nominee can win more easily.

CNN looks like the Fox news network these days!

Micki Santa Clarita CA   December 4th, 2007 1:56 pm ET

I'm in the "ABC" camp — anybody but Clinton. Most of my friends are Democrat and they won't vote for her. The kindest word I've heard them use in reference to Hillary is "shrew". I haven't made up my mind yet but am fed up with the Republicans and haven't seen much to be impressed with from the Democrats. Crossing my fingers and hoping that this election will be different and give me a candidate I can vote FOR and not just someone I'm voting AGAINST.

kathe oakland, california   December 4th, 2007 1:56 pm ET

Hil, Hil, Hil. If all you can find to critize Obama about is his childhood dream of being President????? Poor You. Are you suggesting children, even black children don't dream of becoming President, Senators, CEOs. Wow what a President you will make Hil. You need to talk with Bill about your comments beforehand. You could learn a lot. This is exactly why I would not nor do I trust you….it is difficult to know who you are and what you really think.

Paul, New Orleans, LA   December 4th, 2007 1:54 pm ET

To: Dean, Ottawa, Canada

Worry about your own country. Have you even looked at what he stood for? What specific points do you not like about him? Provide some substance please.

David, Bay Area, CA   December 4th, 2007 1:53 pm ET

I can see it now. Guiliani wins the Repub nomination, Clinton wins the Dem, the Christian Right throws their weight behind Huckabee as a third party, Ron Paul enters as an independent, and then just to make things interesting Michael Bloomberg makes a run with Obama or Jeb on the ticket as VP.

You heard it here first.

GaryH, columbia, sc   December 4th, 2007 1:50 pm ET

It is pathetic to see obama supporters saying hillary bashing obama. The fact is obama was the first one to throw the first punch a couple of months ago, and hillary was quiet for a long time while reeciving the punches. It is time that hillary should punch back.

It is also ridiculous to hear people saying hillary's punch back may backfire, while these people was quiet when obama threw repeated punches.

What a punch of hyprocrits, without backbones!

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 1:47 pm ET

DEAR Dean, Ottawa, Canada:

Please stop wasting OUR time with YOUR comments!

You're not even an AMERICAN, so please Sir, Shut UP!

Okay, Dr. Paul is fine man, and I'm sure a fine Gynecologist. BUT, he is AN AMERICAN! Even "truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats", are AMERICANS. You Sir are NOT.

THAT is the American way: Equal Voices for Equal Votes. This is the basis of our First Amendment Right, and it is guaranteed by our Second Amendment Right! You, Sir, are not guaranteed anything under OUR Fourteenth Amendment Right!

This is an AMERICAN process, and it should not be fouled and befuddled with the viewpoints of FOREIGNERS, no matter how well-meaning they are.

If we let you speak up, then we have to listen to every other non-American out there. Even American Ex-Patriots, who, in my opinion are not entitled to being American after they abandon any ship, sinking or not.

Not letting any alien, legal or not, have their say in OUR future is OUR Right. If we did it the other way, then we would be without our own Sovereignty. Would you like it if we decided who you put on your hockey teams?

Alex, S.F., California   December 4th, 2007 1:46 pm ET

It is AMAZING how CNN.com has become such a supermarket tabloid now, with their lurid, misleading headlines. The original USA Today headline for this USA Today/Gallup poll is: "Poll: Giuliani, Clinton support slips a month from first votes." And here, CNN rewrites the headline sensationally as "Poll shows Clinton, Giuliani Down Big." Come on, CNN, wake up! How can a survey of 425 Republicans and 494 Democrats represent the whole nation? There are millions and millions of voters in this whole process, and the Presidential campaigns have not even started yet! CNN has gone from bad to worse since Ted Turner sold out. Polls are fake, fake, fake, and not worthy of anyone's attention. The fact is, no one knows who is going to be the nominees of either party yet.

Rodney Dallas TX   December 4th, 2007 1:43 pm ET

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA

Seriously John, Virginia Beach VA is NOT the south.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 1:41 pm ET

Why are you not giving Ron Paul the credit that he is due? For the first time in my life I actually donated to a campaign, and it was his. Please report on ALL candidates, not just the annoying ones.

concerned   December 4th, 2007 1:37 pm ET

To dean from Canada,

How far do you have your head up your ass? ron paul supporters are all rascists and cooks acccording to you? what a moron.

Adam, Sacramento   December 4th, 2007 1:37 pm ET

This election is incredibly hard to peg but the Iowa caucus should give us a decent read.

With so many bodies in both races, none of whom from everyone I talk to completely satisfies their parties base how the lower percentage candidates second choices break will be key.

On caucus night do we see them gelling around edwards obama clinton or even if you do the math Richardson Biden or Dodd on the Dem side.

Who does all gore endorse with his 19% want to vote for him block.

Who does Ted Kennedy endorse for the NH bump.

How do those endorsements if they come change the race.

Right now don't rule anyone out most are in this race. No one has demonstarted they aren't fit for office.

Clinton could be ruled to polarizing, Obama to Black, Edwards to inexperienced etc… The people are starting to pay attention now the real race starts. Grab some popcorn pick your horse and enjoy.

Clayton St.louis, Missouri   December 4th, 2007 1:34 pm ET

Once again they leave out Ron Paul…

Amy, Seattle, WA   December 4th, 2007 1:32 pm ET

Considering the candidates who have chances to be nominated, I would go with Clinton or Edwards who have liberal but more centric positions. I prefer Clinton who is more pragmatic and would bring a new view in the White House. Believe it or not, just for being a woman, she will bring change.

I would never vote for Obama who promotes a left-wing politics. If Obama run in the general election against let's say Huckabee or McCain, I would consider a Republican with no hesitation. I totally oppose Obama's populist approach of politics, I see this as a danger to the American values.

I would never

Coach Haughton NH   December 4th, 2007 1:30 pm ET

"Strength" and experience mean nothing unless you have the Honesty and integrity to do the right thing.

I'm sorry do you take the President of Harvard Law review who took a 15k a year job as a community organizer? And then made ethics reform the cause of his 11 year career as a legislator. Whose Healthcare plan is focused on reducing costs instead of forcing people to buy insurance.

Or the Candidate Whose dad was a congressman, husband was a governor, husband was president and then voted for the war in iraq in the senate?

She has seven years experience in the senate voting the wrong way. Voting for Iraq without reading the intelligence is outright betrayal of the american people. Keep making excuses for her if you want. Her healthcare plan will punish people who cannot afford insurance.

Hillary Clinton is by far the most Corrupt, Dishonest candidate for president and she's READY TO LEAD US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION ON DAY ONE.

Terry, des moines, ia   December 4th, 2007 1:28 pm ET

Why CNN did not post that Hillary Clinton was 26 points ahead of Obama two weeks ago, according to the AP-Pew national poll? Her poll will go up soon for sure.

Obama's national poll is still going sideway for months, averaging low 20's, meaning people do not beleive in him more.

Dean, Ottawa, Canada   December 4th, 2007 1:25 pm ET

Could people please stop wasting my time with comments about Ron Paul? The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats. He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.

Steve, NY   December 4th, 2007 1:25 pm ET

OH….the race for President of the United States is more than just a popularity contest……..good to hear!

PollM, Dallas Texas   December 4th, 2007 1:24 pm ET

Who do you believe among the Democratic Presidential Candidates stands to gain the most from the National Intelligence Estimate Report?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1188

.

Russ, Pittsburgh, PA   December 4th, 2007 1:23 pm ET

Why omit Ron Paul from the article? He is virtually tied with McCain and Thompson in the polls and he is raising more money than all of the Republican candidates.

The CNN bias towards the supposed frontrunners is sickening.

Posted By Tony, El Paso TX : December 4, 2007 10:34 am

I don't know where you get your info, but the poll had him in with 4%. No where near the 15% of Thompson and McCain. These Ron Paul supports are so annoying, they are like that little kid in the backseat that keeps saying "Are we there yet, are we there yet". You just want to backhand them and tell them to shut up.

Jose Card   December 4th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

"How in the world can a "National Poll" include less than 1000 people? It doesn't seem like it would be very accurate." Posted By Jim, Philadelphia PA

Unfortunately, very few people would even question the validity of these polling results. Good for Jim!

Every high school student should graduate with a course in Basic Statistics so they can go on to become knowledgeable voters. It should be made a national goal for competitiveness that our future generations of citizens will know how to read statistical analysis on elections, consumer products for shopping, and quality control of goods and services at work.

Not only do we have to know the ratio of the actual sample size used over the sufficient sample size, but also the random sampling method used for any polling results. Otherwise, you can be lied to all the time.

Poor education in math and statistics can weaken our democracy as well as our productivity.

Chuck   December 4th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

You all just don’t get it.
The majority of registered voters are women and like Chris Matthews said, if Hillary gets half of the women to vote for her she will win. This is why the national polls show her in the lead. The Republicans, Obama and Edwards don’t stand a chance. So put all your opinions aside and vote for the woman.

Mike, Milwaukee, WI   December 4th, 2007 1:19 pm ET

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.
————————————–

I have to respond to this ignorant post and I hope CNN does not delete it. Being a black man, there was of course so skepticism on my part on nominating OBAMA due to some racism that exists in America, but think about this one important fact…..

THOSE WHO WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, PROBABLY WOULD NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT ANYWAY……

so what does being black have to do with him winning? he is still very much ACCEPTED among the Dem base and highly popular among Independents.

Indendents decide elections….they are the ones who gave Bill Clinton, and George Bush two terms each…..so I think comments like these are both ignorant and undermining.

EUNICE, MARYLAND, U.S.A.   December 4th, 2007 1:15 pm ET

I am not surprise at all about the shift in the polls. This election is going to be between Hillary and Huckabee and Huckabee is going to win in the end.

Robert, Houston TX   December 4th, 2007 1:06 pm ET

There are too many polls, too early in these elections. The lesser known candidates don't stand a chance when newsgroups constantly report that one or two candidates are a sure thing.

Polls can influence the outcome of elections. We need to cut down on them and let the results be known when they are finalized, not after people have already been influenced for months ahead of time.

Let the candidates conduct their own polls and keep them to themselves so they know where they stand. No one else needs to know that there is a 5 point difference or a 45 point difference between two candidates. The one trailing should still have a chance to speak to the voters and expect that they might take them seriously.

E. C., Houston, Texas   December 4th, 2007 1:00 pm ET

It's About Time…..Giuliani and Clinton are the two WORST possible candiates for their respective parties. What are they doing in this race when NEITHER has the Integrity, Character, or Experience to be the Commander in Chief of this Nation? Hopefully, their numbers will continue to drop until they hit rock bottom.

Surrealist, Fort Myers, FL   December 4th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Good! A little shaking up of the top dogs–shows us the credibility of the others. Looks like the next Presidential candidate from either party will be truly the best. Clearly, the competition is tough, and it will be no "cake walk". I just hope in the national election we can do better than 50% of eligible voters actually taking the time to cast a ballot!!!

Bernard, Scotch Plains NJ   December 4th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Are folks going to tell me with a straight face that this woman and her cadre are capable of unifying the country? Healing old wounds? Creating consensus to solve the great problems?

If you want anger, hatred, and fear to be the dominant factors in American politics, she's 'your girl.'

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

A closer inspection of the polling data does confirm that those polled were not asked whether they would support, not support, or had not heard of Ron Paul.

anon, new york, ny   December 4th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

The difference is that Giuliani is in downfall, while Hillary is not. As some of my stocks in the market, she is just taking a temporary correction. She will rise again soon.

While many republicans do not think Giuliani represent the republican core values, most democrats do think Hillary represents the democrat core values than Obama or other candidates. In addition, polls consistently show that Hillary is the best of all democrat candidates to handle all political issues, and she is most electable. YES, ELECTABILITY WILL PROPEL HILLARY TO HIGHER POLL STANDING.

Hillary's poll standing will rise as the caucus and primary dates get closer. I will bet my tuna sandwich that she will win the nomination. LOL.

Hillary 08.

Brandi Feheley, Jonesboro, AR   December 4th, 2007 12:53 pm ET

Where's Ron Paul? We obviously did not find him here in your pocket, CNN. Guess we'll have to keep searching.

JB, MD   December 4th, 2007 12:48 pm ET

A much more interesting ticker might read: Down, Clinton shows Guiliani big poll.

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 12:47 pm ET

I can't help but notice that while Mitt Romney is "just behind the pack", there's not one mention of Ron Paul anywhere…was he even included in the poll? Doubt it.

http://www.teaparty07.com

Tex Mex, NYC, NY   December 4th, 2007 12:44 pm ET

It is becoming obvious that the nation as a whole does NOT want a "long term relationship" with "this woman,"…Mrs. Clinton. Clearly, the worse is yet to come for "this woman."

S. Wright   December 4th, 2007 12:42 pm ET

USA Today is considered a "scientific" source for a "poll"?

USA Today is for people who like their news written in crayon.

These appeals to authority by the mainstream press is why Americans are so uninformed by the mainstream press, and are looking at alternative sources.

Joeley Reno, Nevada   December 4th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

Hillary's experience is far more extensive than almost all the other candidates (Richardson is awesome too).

As a woman, she will have to work twice as much, twice as hard and be far more dedicated to success than any of the other candidates.

She will, she can, she must, so let's support her.

GO HILLARY 08!

hmr, fernandina beach, fl   December 4th, 2007 12:36 pm ET

Hillary won't win the nomination, nor would she win the election. An Edwards/Obama ticket would chew up any Republican opposition, as well they should.

Danny C TN   December 4th, 2007 12:35 pm ET

So raising over 10 million this quarter so far doenst get a mention from you all?? Ron Paul is rising while they are falling. Hmmm even Faux news reported that Ron Paul could easily pass the 12 million this quarter. Very impressive if you ask me. But then again I support Dr. Paul. We dont need you to spoon feed us our candidates. Could you be any more bias? Yellow journalism at its best.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 12:29 pm ET

Almost every single liberal Democrat in America sees the people out in the streets of the middle east screaming for the teacher who allowed a student to name a teddy bear Mohammad to be killed as the same or even better people than Americans who are not liberal democrats. The proof is all over the internet, check out DemocracyUnderground and other sites that show you just how the average liberal democrat thinks and feels.

Sure, the republicans suck, but this evil that is the liberal democrat and the hate that consumes their being is the last thing that any decent human being in America can and should support.

Do you think that people should hold parades for and continue to support and vote for child molesters and murderers? If that's a no then you will be voting republican in November. The above is fact, check out Ted Kennedy and Mr. Studds, learn the truth, base your vote and support solely on the truth and facts, thank you.

BTW, if this sound in truth and facts post makes it up on this site you will find further proof of the evil that is the liberal democrat below it, liberals show their true colors whenever someone posts the truth about what type of person most of them are.

Posted By Doug, New Jersey : December 4, 2007 10:31 am

Dude, I don't even know where to begin, you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east.
Go back on your meds Doug you're scaring the small children

David, Dallas Tx   December 4th, 2007 12:28 pm ET

Just keep showing those photos of Hillary in a victory pose, CNN. Never mind how many candidates are in the headline, much less in the body of the story.

jenna, Henderson NV   December 4th, 2007 12:25 pm ET

OK, IT’S OFFICIAL!
CNN IS NOT REPORTING ON RON PAUL BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PAID JUST HALF OF THEIR ATTENTION TO HIM AS THEY DO HILLARY OR BARRACK OR EVEN GIULIANI, HE MIGHT JUST WIN THE ELECTION. IMAGINE THE CAOS, IF A HONEST POLITICIAN WON THE PRESIDENCY INSTEAD OF THE COOKIE CUTTER LIARS THAT BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES ARE FILLED WITH.

THIS IS PATHETIC. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

(by the way, if you’re reading this right now, it’s a miracle, because there is a very good chance that CNN won’t post something as truthful as this.)

Joseph, LA, CA   December 4th, 2007 12:22 pm ET

Does CNN report news or try to make it? It seems that every news-show is an attack on the front-runner to bring them back so that the race is more competitive. And then you report those attacks as if they are newsworthy. Self-fulfulling prophecies? Great marketing, terrible reporting. Why, you're becoming more and more like…. Fox News.

Jim, Columbus, OH   December 4th, 2007 12:17 pm ET

This is exactly why the early states, like Iowa and New Hampshire, are important. The people in those places are making up their own minds and not being led entirely by what the media and polls say…If candidates were to be chosen according to whoever tops the polls on any given week, we'd be undermining the electoral process…

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 12:17 pm ET

In this horse race, it's neck and neck with four furlongs to go… Not much to place bets on yet.

Bruce Taylor,Berkeley,CA   December 4th, 2007 12:13 pm ET

The tide is indeed turning.By mid-January,Barack Obama will have replaced Clinton as the Democratic leader. If the Democratic Party is to truly embrace change,not a facsimile,the candidacy of Obama is to be embraced. The past just won't do now.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 12:10 pm ET

And these polls are the result of how many? 500 people? Is this the definitiveness of CNN's accuracy?

Will this small group of unknown people have such a large say in our political future?

Puck, Pittsboro NC   December 4th, 2007 12:08 pm ET

What always strikes me when reading comments such as these is that we have become a nation of illiterates who care more for sniping at each other than we do about seriously considering the issues.

Learn to read carefully, questioning everything. And for crying out loud — learn how to spell and write a coherent sentence.

Jill Owings Mills, MD   December 4th, 2007 12:03 pm ET

I see some of the recent increase in Obama's popularity is due to the "endorsements" by TV stars like Oprah. For her fans who need someone to guide them by the nose to tell them who to vote for, they are glad to have someone make the decision for them. People need to do research on the various candidate's positions and not blindly follow some star's choice!

alan St Louis MO   December 4th, 2007 12:02 pm ET

TIME TO GO PARTY DEMOCRACY IS STARTING TO WORK

GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA

The WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST IS GOING DOWN IN FLAMES :) ONLY IN AMERICA

EDUCATED AMERICANS WANT OBAMA

AMERICAN SHEEP WANT CLINTON if she wins the sheep be dissapointed in there pick. "give me my handout you promissed me Hilliary.
OMG you lied to me!!! You gave my JOB, Land ,Money to CHINA. !!! Why did you do that Hillary??"

Don White, Brooklyn, NY   December 4th, 2007 12:02 pm ET

These headlines are big distractions. Unless the results of Iowa and NH are out, one can't say positively about any of the candidates. American people thia time are not going to vote based on the polls. They will find who is the most qualified and electable candidate.

Mike, Newark, DE   December 4th, 2007 12:01 pm ET

The most notable thing about this poll is that somebody who has publicly stated that he does not believe in the theory of evolution now has a fighting chance of being president. Imagine a leader whose decisions are based more on blind belief instead of concrete evidence. All the money, people, and technology invested by this country for doing foreign intelligence could be brushed aside in favor of what his faith says. This country has already suffered through 8 years of this type of decision making - four more would be devastating.

Jr., California   December 4th, 2007 11:59 am ET

John, Boston

"The novelty has finally worn off. When it comes right down to it, nobody in reality will vote for Hillary. I have no problem with a woman as president, just not this one."

I agree, could you imagine how interesting it would be if Condoleeza Rice ran against Shrillary?

S. Carter, Los Angeles   December 4th, 2007 11:59 am ET

I have been reading these comments on the ticker for some months now and I have come to this conclusion:

Comments coming from those in Florida seem to be the most absolute and non-logical arguments.

I am making a blanket statement, and there are those who are from Florida and have managed to be coherent, but the majority of Floridans are very immature with their arguments.

Sorry, it has just been buggin me for so long. They seem to have a blind faith for their canidate of choice and make absolute statements like "it will never happen" or tend to be hateful in their remarks.

Obviously this is not an exclusively Florida thing, I just notice alot comes from them.

Ok……I am ready for the hate

Jim, Philadelphia PA   December 4th, 2007 11:58 am ET

How in the world can a "National Poll" include less than 1000 people? It doesn't seem like it would be very accurate.

Simon,Pa   December 4th, 2007 11:57 am ET

wow,CNN, pictures of Hillary win, Hillary as a president, Hillary as commander in chief. I wish the media elects the presidents. It could be an easier thing for us Americans.

Christine   December 4th, 2007 11:55 am ET

I force myself to listen to listen to Sean Hannity's radio show (it's not easy). He hates the Democrats, but always defends Obama over Clinton. He does so because he knows if Mr. Obama were to win the nomination, the Republican attack machine would easily destroy Mr. Obama. "he is a Muslim". "went to a Muslim school"(ie "Islamofacist" supporter). "A vote for Obama, is a vote for for terrorism". I'm sorry, but that is exactly what will happen. It will make the 'swiftboating' of John Kerry, look like childsplay. It wasn't 'true', but it worked.
In a time where we are involved in a war with a Muslim country, Mr. Obama is not the right candidate.

Hillarylover in SA   December 4th, 2007 11:54 am ET

Monte Brown - HELLO WE LOVE YOU GUY down here in San Antonio. God Clinton staff should grab you up! You say it so well: It is time for Hillary to get at the other Democrats so that she can win the primaries. I am confident that the American people just won’t buy into petty attacks. The American people will choose Hillary Clinton because she’s is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.

Posted By Monte Brown, New York, NY : December 4, 2007 10:39 am

Shawn, Denver CO   December 4th, 2007 11:49 am ET

It seems to me that, at some point, the political establishment became enchanted with the same theory as the movie industry: the earlier you begin marketing, the better; and there is NO amount of time where that trend breaks down. So just as production studios today begin releasing teasers/trailers much earlier (when do you recall seeing trailers for a movie 1 1/2 years in advance of release in the '80s?) presidential candidates now want to hit the road a year in advance to gain brand recognition.

I'm hoping that the front runners lose and lose big before conventions, and I hope that happens every campaign season until these people are forced to return to a respectible schedule. After all, candidates coming out of the gate this early ultimately helps no one… except for the media outlets, think tanks, marketing execs and consultants that make their money from campaign cycles. The rest of us are just paying out the nose.

tommy   December 4th, 2007 11:46 am ET

Hillary Will Be the "ComeBack Kid".

Chris, Middletown, CT   December 4th, 2007 11:44 am ET

I'm impressed….the Democrats have started to read HRC responses..and her many positions (on the same subject) - and realize….we don't need more gridlock….(and the introduction of socialism) - we need a leader…and its not her….

KD, cherry hill NJ   December 4th, 2007 11:41 am ET

Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think white people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him.

yes hatmatters…I think white people in the aforementioned states will vote for Obama because some people are not as narrowminded as you. Perhaps, you should pay a little more attention to the issues than the color.

Posted By megan : December 4, 2007 10:53 am

Actually Senator Barack Hussein Obama will loose not because he is black. I think he will make a great President he is smart articulate and a passionate orator. But he will loose beacuse his name is Barack HUSSEIN Obama. forget the south they will not vote for him any way, but he will loose Middle America beacuse he is a HUSSEIN! do you really not think republican smear machine will swiftboat him with this and they will have a cake walk.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   December 4th, 2007 11:41 am ET

Regardless of how much these worthless popularity contests ebb and flow over the next few months, come election time it is going to be Giuliani v. Clinton.

Obama doesn't have what it takes (yet) to take Hillary down. She would have to take herself down. Team Hillary wants ANYONE but Giuliani in the general election.

Huckabee is currently taking advantage of the Christian conservative element who are concerned about Giuliani's moderate social views. He is also very affable which is also helping at this time. However, at the end of the day, his PRO-AMNESTY stance on illegal immigration will make it impossible for him to win the Republican nomination. His tax record will further doom him. The fact that he doesn't believe in evolution will preclude him from getting ANY independent voters and this alone would be fatal. His lack of ANY kind of foreign policy experience would just be icing on the cake. THIS is Team Hillary's dream opponent but it won't happen.

Z, St. Louis, MO.   December 4th, 2007 11:36 am ET

Yet again, the polls show the truth.
The voters have to choose not who's
better, but who's least bad.The best
the 2 party system we have to offer
is really pretty lousy.Both parties
are utterly corrupt and useless.
They cause more problems then they solve by fighting amongst themselves.
It's time to get more parties/people
involved and get out of this gridlock
the Repuiblican/Democrat parties have
this country in..

gilliganscorner   December 4th, 2007 11:35 am ET

We have the candidate that comes along once in a lifetime. His voting record is untarnished, he is a ten term Congressman, and he is the best educated politicians out there.

America, a candidate like him comes along once in a lifetime. The military-industrial complex, the mainstream media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS don’t like what he is doing, hence all of the media censorship surrounding his campaign.

For the love of God, your children, and your Country, and all else you hold dear, vote this man President.

Vote Ron Paul.

Consider this quote:

"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.

– US Bankers Magazine, Aug 25, 1924

Understand what is happening. Wake up. Vote Ron Paul

scott,manchester NH   December 4th, 2007 11:30 am ET

i absolutely have to say..i just read a comment about "america hopefully starting to understand that [hillary and rudy]are nasty, mean spirited, cutthroat politicians"….??????????
i've been to plenty of hillary campaign stops and those comments are about THE most bizarre i've read…
the real question is: does someone who write that stuff have any idea HOW nasty, meanspirited and cutthroat…..washington is????
the only way to neutralize THAT…is to have a change from the last hundred years of men in charge…

Zeke, Tustin, CA   December 4th, 2007 11:30 am ET

Who cares CNN. How about the headline with who the poll leaders are now. That would suffice.

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA   December 4th, 2007 11:29 am ET

It is time for Hillary to get at the other Democrats so that she can win the primaries. I am confident that the American people just won’t buy into petty attacks. The American people will choose Hillary Clinton because she’s is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.
Posted By Monte Brown, New York, NY : December 4, 2007 10:39 am

Mr. Brown, may I ask you what experience or qualifications are you talking about? If I am not mistaken, she was NOT the president, only the first lady. Like I have said before, just because you are having sex with the president, does not make you qualified or experienced. If that is your thinking sir, Monaca could run, right? Experience my butt. She then goes off to your state and runs for senate???? What is that? Why didn’t she go back to Arkansas? Why New York? Because she only wants this job for one reason, and that is to be the FIRST, not necessarily the BEST!!!!!!!!

Obama 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darrel Lone Rock Iowa   December 4th, 2007 11:28 am ET

What an change for cnn to report the polls on clinton yesterday clinton was in a surge and today she is falling?

The Middle Class working Americans that have not been represented in the past 15 years will vote for a clean up and when they do hillary and anyone like her will truly know what a free fall they will be taking.Enough of the past. It was thee most, dimm/corrupt/wag the finger lying/self serving/ politicians, we have ever seen in public display. enough already/ term limitations for starters/ line item veto to curb ear marks and pork barrel tactics/ If it don't stand on it own it should not stand/ The tit for tat mentality of washington is wrong! Even stupid, as it don't pass the common sense test .
common sense is important to me.
Vote Independant next time/

Tom - Dedham, Mass   December 4th, 2007 11:28 am ET

I think this is an example of the voters in both parties not wanting to have "buyer's remourse". H. Clinton's lack of character and integrity is starting to shine through and Giuliani's social liberalism is starting to really bother a good portion of Republicans. Huckabee will be next to see his numbers drop when his tax increases and spending hikes in Arkansas will become better known. You already see various conservative commentators becoming fearful of Huckabee.

Posted By Gerald R. San Antonio, Texas : December 4, 2007 10:38 am

You stole my thunder Gerald, as your points are valid as hell.

It is funny how CNN in writing this mentions Hillary's and Rudy's numbers dipping BECAUSE people are now paying attention.

Huckabee is the flavor of the month much like Thompson was. It will still come down to Romney and Rudy and Hillarity and Obama.

May the best man win……….

RonPaul 2008, Columbus, OH   December 4th, 2007 11:27 am ET

Where is Ron Paul? Why does CNN continue to ignore him?

If he's truly, legitimately behind, then state so and back your findings. But since he's ahead of many of the other candidates in both the polls and fundraising, it's negligent on CNN's part to continue to omit him.

Micahel Guinn, Ventura, CA   December 4th, 2007 11:25 am ET

There's a reason Sen. Clinton is down big-time in the polls. Anyone who is even marginally involved has seen that the "strong, experienced(?) leader" has a case of double-speak and Sen. Obama continues to gain strength.
For those who say Obama can't win- they said that about JFK and look what happened.
He brings hope and courage to a field of same-ole-song politicians. His LACK OF EXPERIENCE in Washington is NOT a negative thing!
It's time America.
Obama 08!

Kashia Jackson Brooklyn New York   December 4th, 2007 11:24 am ET

It's an absolute joke that Hillary Clinton tells voters she's the most qualified candidate. She was a lawyer in a small law firm in Arkansas, and then spent eight years in the White House trying to push socialized medicine on the American people and while her husband repeatedly had affairs with other women she blamed all her problems on "the vast right wing conspiracy." I'm a life long Democrat and will never vote for this phony. She is by far the most polarizing individual ever to run for the presidency and god help us all if this nasty person becomes president. She has no convictions and no beliefs except power and lying, and as Obama gets closer in the polls, she shows what she's all about with her mudslinging and dirty politics and high tech lynching of Obama.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 11:23 am ET

dmw in roeland park–

The south's unlikely to go Democratic anyway. But, it should be pointed out, the southern states tend to have higher percentages of black voters. If Obama could actually convince that historically-non-voting group to turn out it could be good for the country, and for the democrats.

Michael in Orange–

It's funny you say the GOP has a deeper pool of candidates, because polling consistently shows most Republicans are unhappy with their choices. Giuliani's viewed as liberal, especially socially, Romney is a northern flip-flopping Mormon, Thompson is Hollywood, McCain has taken several unpopular positions on torture, flag-burning, etc. etc., and e