December 4, 2007
Posted: 11:17 AM ET

Giuliani's support has dropped 9 points in one month, according to a new poll.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The presidential race in both parties isn't just tightening in the key early-voting states, but across the rest of country as well, according to a new USA Today/Gallup poll out Monday evening.

One month before Iowa and New Hampshire voters kick off the presidential primary season, the poll seems to show nationwide support for frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani has dropped considerably from this time a month ago.

Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, is down 9 percentage points in one month while Clinton, the senator from New York, has seen her support drop 11 points. Both Clinton and Giuliani's declines are the biggest one-month drop they have seen since the presidential election season began.

"The movement away from the frontrunners may be a sign that the public is starting to pay attention to the election, and may be moving beyond the "name recognition" phase," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "It's an early indication of what might happen after Iowa and New Hampshire, when a few second-tier candidates will get instant name recognition to rival that of Clinton and Giuliani."

One-time dark horse candidate Mike Huckabee has shot up to second place in the national survey, now 9 percentage points behind Giuliani, 25 percent to 16 percent. Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson are one point behind at 15 percent. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is just behind the pack with 12 percent.

Responding to the poll, Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella said, "We’ve been saying from the beginning that this race was always going to tighten. But when you look at the numbers, Rudy has been consistently leading in every major national poll since February. Unlike some other candidates, Mayor Giuliani has steady strength and real staying power."

On the Democratic side, Clinton's lead now stands at 15 percentage points over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, 39 percent to 24 percent. In last month's poll Clinton's lead was 28 percent over the Illinois senator. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards stands at 15 percent, meanwhile, with the rest of the field in single digits.

While Clinton's support is down, Holland notes no single Democrat is the direct beneficiary.

"No single candidate has emerged as the ABC — Anybody-but-Clinton — candidate," he said. "Edwards went up 3, Obama went up 3, [New Mexico Gov. Bill] Richardson went up 2, [Delaware Sen. Joe] Biden went up 2. That's how Clinton maintains a double-digit lead — Democrats may be moving away from her, but they aren’t moving toward one of her rivals."

The poll surveyed 425 Republicans and leaning Republicans and 494 Democrats and leaning Democrats on November 30 through December 2. It carries a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Related video: CNN's Candy Crowley reports it's a dead heat in Iowa with a month to go

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Iowa • New Hampshire • Presidential Candidates • South Carolina


terry   December 30th, 2007 3:56 pm ET

women, wake up if we put a women in for presidesnt, we will lose all our credibility

Paul, New Orleans, LA   December 17th, 2007 2:14 pm ET

The polls are a joke, there has been evidence that Ron Paul's name has not even been included in the poll. Don't worry, the people spoke on Sunday!

Josh, Cleveland, OH   December 16th, 2007 8:22 am ET

Go OBAMA! You know, after reading the news on CNN I have a strong feeling that they are on Clinton's side. I read a lot of news, and you can depend on them to try and steal Obama's power. I hope people see through it. I'm always surprised to hear them say anything good about him, but its usually followed by something saying "but Hillary has more experience". This has really tarnished my view of CNN

George, South, Florida   December 8th, 2007 12:46 am ET

Can someone out there tell me why they are afraid to have Sen. Hillary Clinton as President of this here U.S.A.
My wife is a Republican and she states that Hillary is smart and clever. She states that she doesnt trust Sen. Cinton. However she cannot name one thing, not one fact, that can be backed up with factual evidence.

I ask those of you who are against Hillary for President to please lay out FACTS, not a case of he said, she said. Thank you.
George

Al-kanemi, Grambling, LA   December 5th, 2007 9:21 pm ET

I agree 100% of what African-American state Sen. Robert Ford said, when he announced he was backing Hillary Clinton.

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

how stupid for state senator Ford ( an african american) to say that..very low opinionated of the black race, he is one of those few blacks that rise up and looks down on his own people.it's not race or gender that matters, it is who is qualified. Obama has better judgement.

Billy J Austin, Tx   December 5th, 2007 12:09 pm ET

Edwards!
If you are reading this, then you probably have been following the candidates for awhile. C'mon, admit it, Edwards is the best man for the job, if you are looking for a true populist who will look after EVERYONE not just the influential. Your place in the economic strata means much more than your gender or race these days. Both Barack and Hillary represent different types of American political elitism that you won't find in Edwards or many of the other democrats for that matter. Please, Please, Please look and listen ….

Edwards is the best friend the middle class and disadvantaged are gonna have as president for a long time. Don't miss this opportunity.

Russ, Pittsburgh, PA   December 5th, 2007 10:00 am ET

Well, Russ, if you look at the polling data itself, you will find that there is a long list of questions, stating things like, "do you support, not support, or have you never heard of…Hillary Clinton/Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney", etc. You will find, if you read through all of the questions, those polled were not asked if they supported, did not support, or had never heard of Ron Paul. He was omitted from the poll. At the very bottom, the general question is asked of who you would most support in the Republican/Democrat primary (or some question to that effect). Here's where you see your 4%. Nice.

Posted By Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio : December 4, 2007 2:09 pm

Well Mr. Drake,

The actual question was "(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party) Which candidates would you be most likely to support for the Republican nomination for president in 2008, or if you would support someone else."

You can say they haven't heard of him all you want, but the answer still is Paul 4%, McCain 15%, and Thompson 15%. As you can see only 4% support him, as compared to 15% for McCain and Thompson. So you can see that he is in no way shape or form, virtually tied with Mcain or Thompson. As of this moment 94% of the people questioned, do not support Ron Paul, that is why he gets little to no coverage.

Darrel @Lone Rock Iowa   December 5th, 2007 9:34 am ET

bleeped 6 times now by cnn on the rudy and hillary poll falling.
whats the matter cnn can't you post the truth.
Your bias is getting in the way of the free press. The Murdocks are in controll

Darrel @Lone Rock Iowal   December 5th, 2007 9:30 am ET

Just to see what CNN is up to I am put this truthfull information out
Rudy and Hillary are slipping Right we can all see this.
Why?
Corruption Scandle run deep in there veins.
The no longer silent majority will be out in full force to rid themselves of the Rudy and Hillary types from running our goverment. Just that simple

Independant/from Iowa/Darrel   December 5th, 2007 9:23 am ET

Cnn is certainly picking and chooseing my post these days 0 out of 5 made latly.
anyway
The Middle Class working Americans that have not been represented in the past 15 years will vote for a clean up and when they do Hillary and anyone like her will truly know what a free fall the wiil be taking. It has been the most dimm/corrupt wag the finger lying self serving politicians we have ever seen in public display. Enough already/ Term limitations for starters/line item veto to curb ear marks and pork barrel tactics/ If it don't stand on its own it should not stand/ The tit for tat mentality of washington is wrong! Even stupid, as it don't pass the common sense test.
and that is important to me

Terry, El Paso, TX   December 5th, 2007 8:49 am ET

Americans hate negative advertising in political campaigns. However, those same people will vote for those who produce the negative advertising.

Four years ago, I heard a woman talking about how how much she hates negative advertising. I asked her who she was going to vote for. She said, "I haven't decided yet, but I'm certainly not going to vote for a flip-flopper and coward like Kerry!"

HILLARY 2008   December 5th, 2007 8:19 am ET

It’s also obvious from the last debate that John Edwards is fighting with anything he can think of, which we need a fighter; he’s only attacking Hillary though? As the good ole boys are sticking together, is he scared of oprah and obama? The reason you’re not hearing allot of negative about obama because OBAMA IS TOO INEXPERIENCED, there is no history, other than he doesn’t show up for work, he's missed almost all important senate votes? We already had a president the played instead of worked, look at this mess…What’s has this guy been doing? now he thinks he can use Oprah’s money to buy the Presidency? HE IS CRAZY as she is…

After recent weeks and the personal attacks, I strongly now see the best choice and my vote will go to CLINTON, we need her contacts as well as the great relationships President Clinton has with other countries and experience, to work together so that other counties will share the bill and world security. We do not have time to play politics with the likes of obama and rest of these guys…
John Edwards would be an outstanding VP for Hillary

CLINTON 2008, the true SMART choice

Mrs. Feilds Iowa   December 5th, 2007 7:57 am ET

Democrats are going to be reluctant to nominate someone they know so little about as Obama and will wonder if the nation is ready for a candidate who has ONLY been a senator for 104 weeks before running for president and missing ALL imprtant votes.(it's not!!). Don;t waste your vote for obama in IOWA,They will also wonder about nominating Edwards, who lost twice in 2004. When the question becomes viability, Hillary is in a league of her own with her ability to bring new female voters to the polls. Not becuase she has a TV show,becuase she is the best candidate running thsi election

Megan Christian Iowa   December 5th, 2007 7:37 am ET

How come the polls only mean anyting when Clinton slips, (but stays a head of her rivals?? My vote was for Edwards, but the more I read and hear, CLINTON is what we need ASAP! sorry John, if you had stayed on issues and stopped the stupid Hill bashing you stood a chance, now your acting like obama winphrey and that gives the Smart American people a bad taste, like oprah has…
I THINK THE MEDIA SHARES RESPONSIBILITY FOR EFFECTING OUR PRESIDENTAL ELECTION… THATS A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY, FOX NEWS "THE REPUBLICAN NETWORK" HELPED GET BUSH RE-ELECTED…

Mark Vestweber, Ames Iowa   December 4th, 2007 7:26 pm ET

In a recent campaign stop in New Hampshire, Bill Clinton made sharp remarks about what he thinks is an obvious disregard by the media for candidate experience. I think what he fails to take into consideration is the fact that Americans, at this stage, genuinely just want to know what kind of people the candidates are. I believe many Americans decide their candidate based on character. How passionate they are and how real they feel. Now more than ever, many Americans are feeling like the government is failing them, that politicians are nothing more than a bunch of pocket stuffing opportunists.

And when you consider that some of the most experienced politicians in Washinton have led us to some of the most disasterous policies in this country's history, it seems obvious to me why experience might not be a central issue for many Americans.

Experience and good judgement are two different things Mr. Clinton.

Pacifica, CA   December 4th, 2007 6:56 pm ET

Hillary Rocks! America will be so blessed if she is our Commander in Chief…Bushonomics is finally coming to an end…

Andrew, Haslett, MI   December 4th, 2007 6:09 pm ET

I have to ask, how can so many otherwise liberal people be seriously supporting Ron Paul? Here is a guy who:
1: Believes the 2nd amendment should be extended to military-style machine guns.

Wrong. Ron Paul doesn't believe that specifically, but he does believe, correctly, that there is nothing in the 2nd Amendment which classifies the types of weapons which private citizens are allowed to possess. He is a strict constructionist. I do not personally believe that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms at all (as it states that citizens may possess firearms as the result of being part of a militia; this would seem to imply that a member of any armed force or unit dedicated to the protection of a town, city, or state would also qualify, but not individuals with no affiliation to any of these groups) but I can read well enough to see that there's nothing in the Constitution which discusses specific firearms. This is a case of a guaranteed freedom somehow being a bad thing.

2: Believes in the "war on Christmas".

If you mean that there is a growing trend to secularize anything and everything in this country, then I'd go along with that. It's become increasingly obvious that US culture is more concerned with offending anyone by merely mentioning, or god forbid, celebrating, long-standing religious institutions such as Christmas. When companies and even people are so afraid to wish someone "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hannukah" or "Happy Kwanzaa" for fear of offending, intimidating, or alienating them, it is a sad state indeed. Normal people find this stupid, and while the founders of the Constitution did make it clear that a state religion should not be established, they also were religious men and that clearly influenced their thinking when writing it. For us to ignore that would also be stupid.

3: Opposes network neutrality.

It would be more accurate to say that Ron Paul opposes government regulation of any kind on the Internet. It would also be accurate to say that Ron Paul opposes taxing the Internet like many of our fine Congresspeople want to do. Network neutrality is another word for the government sticking its nose in where it doesn't belong, messing up free trade.

4: Is staunchly pro-life.

Yes, but be also believes that the legal issue must be left up to the states and there should be no federal interference, no marriage ban, no amendments to the Constitution regarding abortion or marriage. The reason is that it is not up to the federal government to force the states to recognize marriages or abortion laws they wouldn't otherwise.

5: Opposes the existence of the Department of Education.

And the Department of Energy and the IRS and many other government agencies which only serve to further the interests of the federal government messing with things that are state issues. Schools are run by the states, energy is run by private enterprise and neither need to be regulated by the government; in fact regulation by these agencies stifles growth and prosperity.
I have read from teachers where they disagreed with every one of Dr. Paul's positions except abolishing the Dept. of Education. Clearly, those who are bound by its policies are not exactly happy with it. There are other major candidates who are also in favor of eliminating waste and cutting spending in order to protect the US economic system as well.

6: Opposes individual democracy by opposing direct-election of senators and supporting the electoral college.

Abolishing the electoral college could also weaken the power of individual voters by giving disproportionate power to higher populated states on the east and west coast. It is up to the states how to cast their electoral votes, so if they wanted a more representative election process, they could do any number of things, not the least of which would be to apportion their electoral votes according to the distribution of the popular vote in the districts, instead of awarding them all to the candidate with the highest number of votes. California is entertaining a bill that would do this and 2 other states already do. This is a complex issue with no good solution for those who are dissatisfied with the electoral college.

7: Opposes the existence of the Department of Energy.

Likely for the same reasons as the IRS and Dept. of Education.

The guy wants to put this nation back basically on the course it was on in the nineteenth century. I understand that he has the appeal of standing up for his principles, but his principles would damage the country.

No, he wants to return the country to the way it was governed in the 19th century, in which the civil liberties of its citizens were not hampered by excess regulation, and the size of government was not as monstrous as it is now, where the power of the people was more important than the needs of the state. It is apparent that you don't truly understand the reasons behind his positions, but I suggest you delve a little deeper. You will find that Ron Paul's message is all about hope for this country, individual freedom for all, and keeping the government out of our lives where it does not belong. That is why I and so many others support his candidacy and his election would be a huge step forward to ending this corruption and fallacy that we need to sacrifice freedom to have prosperity.

They just don't bother asking questions about people who aren't in a position to win. Until Ron Paul breaks into the mainstream–which, despite his ardent support here, he has failed to do–the mainstream media probably won't pay too much attention to him. It's not bias against his views, just his popularity.

Posted By Steve, Landing, NJ : December 4, 2007 3:32 pm

I disagree. How can you know who is in a position to win before a single vote has been cast? The fact that he has raised more money this quarter than ALL candidates last quarter, and is actually raising more money than most of his rivals puts him in a very good position to win. Aside from this, if CNN lets polls dictate their coverage, why don't they cover that he has won half of all straw polls he participated in, including the most recent one in Virginia? With the media wielding such enormous power over the information we see and hear about this election, you would think they would want to inform us on ALL the candidates, if they were truly interested in fair journalism. However, they are only interested in covering the top 3, so the media chooses our candidates for us.

Don't let this happen. Do your research and vote your conscience, not just what the media, the party, and the establishment tells you to. There is no such thing as "wasting your vote". This nonsense is propagated by the news too but it is total rubbish.

Freedom of information, freedom for us! Ron Paul 2008!

Hart, moosejaw, saskatchewan   December 4th, 2007 5:54 pm ET

If Obama gets elected, I will move to Canada!

Dem, orlando, florida   December 4th, 2007 5:41 pm ET

Several of these republican candidates had divorces and personal health problems (cancer). What a bad bunch wanting to be the president!

Claudia, Tucson, AZ   December 4th, 2007 5:22 pm ET

I am so tired of the bigotry and hatred that is being shown on these blogs toward Obama. He is fresh and with new ideas. Our country is in crisis and all some can do is bicker. Hillary is to be respected for what she has accomplished but she is incredibly divisive. If we practice the true "American way" Obama can win the White House. Obama/Edwards Edwards/Obama ticket would do our country well.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   December 4th, 2007 5:11 pm ET

Voters are thinking independently thank God. We are separating facts from fiction looking for a complete overhaul which will give the government back to the people. It's not surprise to see the polls change as they will continue to do so.

sarah el paso TX   December 4th, 2007 4:05 pm ET

If Obama loses the nomination he should run as an independent

Brad, Stockton, CA   December 4th, 2007 3:56 pm ET

Keep checking the pollsm with any luck she will end at zero.

Je Sui, PA   December 4th, 2007 3:49 pm ET

I wish Americans were as courageous as the French people who demonstrate each time they feel cheated by politicians. We are just a bunch of lazy passive americans who sit around the television screen and get fat while the politicians play with our emotions.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 3:32 pm ET

Jonathan Drake–

Yes, Paul was left out of that poll question. So were Tancredo, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, and Hunter. Notice how only people who had double-digits in the last question had a question devoted entirely to them?

Huckabee was ignored the same way until very recently. They just don't bother asking questions about people who aren't in a position to win. Until Ron Paul breaks into the mainstream–which, despite his ardent support here, he has failed to do–the mainstream media probably won't pay too much attention to him. It's not bias against his views, just his popularity.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 3:26 pm ET

Dan, USA–

And look what happened to Gore, he gave up an election that he should've cake-walked. Fact is, the majority of Americans never stopped liking Bill Clinton.

'Course, that's no reason to vote for his wife.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 3:24 pm ET

Freda–

I believe Ron Paul's a stand-up guy, I'm just not sure what the average person thinks he's going to accomplish for the country. All I hear about him is that he's a genuine guy, not a politicians, stands by his beliefs, etc. etc. Not why anyone thinks his beliefs are the correct ones.

Doug, New Jersey   December 4th, 2007 3:24 pm ET

The far left extremists control the democratic party and all I have done is factually post what they are saying (check out DU and daily kos ETC). It is insane to take issue with the messenger and ignore the message. If you want to vote Democrat, fine, go for it. I just want you to know what you are supporting. The extremists who control the Democratic party say that church going Americans are the same as those out in the streets in the Middle East calling for this teacher to be put to death. It's simple, if you agree with that kind of hate, ignorance and dishonesty that is the far left, then vote Democrat, if not vote against them.

Just remember what you are voting for, that's all. Remember when you vote for Hillary you are voting for the far left, the people who have equated church going Americans to these extremists who want this teacher killed. The woman who has said, "We are going to take things from you for the common good" (Hillary's exact words). You want to vote for Marxism and hate, go for it.

Freda, Greenwich, CT   December 4th, 2007 3:16 pm ET

I used to live in a neighborhood called Chasewood in Missouri City, Texas. When Ron Paul was campaigning for the House of Representatives over thirty years ago, he stopped and talked with me about his views on many things. We talked for a very long time and he sent notes and newsletters to my home after he was elected. I felt he cared about me as a person who lived in his district. He was interested in my opinion on many issues. I would vote for Ron Paul for president of the USA.
I am an Independent but I was a Democrat at that time. I am also of African American and Native American heritage.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 2:54 pm ET

GO OBAMA GO!!

Sandy, West Chester, Pa.   December 4th, 2007 2:34 pm ET

Doug from NJ,
Why would you assume that liberal Democrats aren't church going people? I'm a bleeding heart liberal and I could not be more proud of my country. I'm also very active in my church. I'm proud to be a Christian and a Democrat. It appears that you have deemed 'liberal Democrats' to be public enemy number 1 and I'm just wondering why you have such animosity towards your fellow American's?

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:31 pm ET

It's kinda funny how all the liberals here so a conservative bias, and all the conservatives see a liberal bias, and all the Obama-supporters see a Clinton-bias, and all the Clinton-supports see an Obama-bias… Apophenia, anyone?

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   December 4th, 2007 2:30 pm ET

Dough,
are you listening to yourself? do you think ALL liberals are evil? really? for your knowledge I am a fairly conservative thinking, church going, family loving, red blooded American! and by the way I will vote for Sen. Clinton for president. you want to stop the non-sense of the political parties, you look for the person that is willing to compromise and see both angles to a dispute and tries to find the common good! I have not seen that from most of these candidates. Huckabee was governor of Arkansas, his constituency has both Clinto loyalists and republicans alike he had to compromise, Romney had to do the same even though here lately he is been selling his soul to the neo-cons, but he has that experience, Sen. Clinton has the same experience from the senate, she was not afraid to back the commander-in-chief when every evidence they produced pointed in the direction of WMD, she is also not afraid to point out correctly that we must do better, she has a clear vision of what the problems of America are and she plans to enlist the best people (I dare say from all political sides) to come up with the solutions. neither Libs or Reps can fix the US by themselves.

EVERYONE VOTE! it is your duty as a citizen.

P   December 4th, 2007 2:28 pm ET

To hattmatters:
I cannot speak to Ohio, PA or Florida but, having grown up in Iowa and spent half my life there, I can tell you that whites in Iowa will vote for a black man. They will vote for a brown man or a yellow man or a woman. Iowans tend to be fairly open-minded and fair. Plus, with their first-in-the-nation status, they take their politics very seriously. They examine the issues and the candidates and come to an educated decision.
To Puck in Pittsboro:
Amen, brother! Amen.
To Mike in Milwaukee:
You might be onto something here. Has anyone polled the independents in this country to see who they like? It could be very illuminating and instructional.

Dan, USA   December 4th, 2007 2:21 pm ET

"lets see if its possible for Iowans and the rest of the country to figure out that the male republican track record is what is killing this country.

its kind of funny to notice that bill clinton is able to speak so well of Hillary and pump up her qual's…and NO ONE running for prez in the GOP wants bush [closest thing for them to their top leadership] anywhere near them.

tells ya somethin.

Posted By scott,manchester NH : December 4, 2007 11:12 am "
Hey Scott I seem to remember Al Gore and other democrats running as far as they could from Clinton a few years back. I think that tells you something too!

Whitney, Nashville, TN   December 4th, 2007 2:16 pm ET

For those of you who cite Harold Ford Jr. losing his senate race to Bob Corker as evidence that the South won't elect a Black president, I would have to disagree with you.

I am from Tennessee and while I did vote for Harold Ford Jr., I only did so because I wanted the Democrats to take control of the Senate. The Ford family has been a dominant and corrupt force in Tennessee (specifically Memphis) politics for a long time. 3 members of the Ford family have held public office in Tennessee and been indicted on federal charges. Ford's uncle John is on trial right now for bribery charges. The fact of the matter is, Tennesseans outside of Memphis do not trust the Ford family and rightfully so.

That having been said, I am 100% behind Barack Obama for president. In terms of Souther electability, he is the strongest Democratic candidate to appeal to Southern voters (arguably Edwards is stronger). People conveniently ignore that his strong Christian fate is the perfect way to counter weakening support by the Souther n Baptist set for the Republican party. Hilary Clinton is so unelectable in the South it's not even funny. The Democratic Party will be shooting itself in the foot if it nominates Hilary Clinton.

Barack Obama is both the most electable Democratic candidate and the best candidate. OBAMA 08

anon, new york, ny   December 4th, 2007 2:15 pm ET

On the other hand, USA Today/Gallup poll of June 3, 2007, six months ago, shows that Obama beat Hillary by 1 pts (30 vs 29). Now, Hillary beats Obama by 15 pts (39 vs 24). That means, for the past 6 months:

- HILLARY HAS GONE UP 20 POINTS

- OBAMA HAS GONE DOWN 5 POINTS

Obama has wasted his $80 million raised!

HURRAH HILLARY! You go girl.
Hillary 08!

Lance in Monrovia, CA   December 4th, 2007 2:13 pm ET

Obama 08. He's the future. Thank god.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 2:12 pm ET

"you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east."

Obviously I know all there is no know about libs since I knew that a lib like you could not respond to my comments without rewriting them.

So since you could not respond to what I typed and had to change it to what you could respond to, that shows you know I'm right and you are just another lib who sees Church going Americans as the same or even worse people as those calling for that teachers death.

Posted By Doug, New Jersey : December 4, 2007 2:05 pm

Doug,
I'm a 'church going' person myself and I happen to believe that we are much better than the fanatics who called for the execution of that innocent teacher. It appear that you have a big problem with people who aren't on the same page with you politically speaking.

BTW- I've never encountered anyone in my church who has as much anger and hatred for fellow American's as you do. You must be one of those church goers who believe as long as you show up on Sunday you can treat people anyway that you want to Monday – Saturday.
Get some help Doug- I would suggest anger management or perhaps just opening the bible and reading it might be a start.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:10 pm ET

I have to ask, how can so many otherwise liberal people be seriously supporting Ron Paul? Here is a guy who:
1: Believes the 2nd amendment should be extended to military-style machine guns.
2: Believes in the "war on Christmas".
3: Opposes network neutrality.
4: Is staunchly pro-life.
5: Opposes the existence of the Department of Education.
6: Opposes individual democracy by opposing direct-election of senators and supporting the electoral college.
7: Opposes the existence of the Department of Energy.

The guy wants to put this nation back basically on the course it was on in the nineteenth century. I understand that he has the appeal of standing up for his principles, but his principles would damage the country.

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 2:09 pm ET

"I don't know where you get your info, but the poll had him in with 4%. No where near the 15% of Thompson and McCain. These Ron Paul supports are so annoying, they are like that little kid in the backseat that keeps saying "Are we there yet, are we there yet". You just want to backhand them and tell them to shut up. Russ, Pittsburgh, PA."

Well, Russ, if you look at the polling data itself, you will find that there is a long list of questions, stating things like, "do you support, not support, or have you never heard of…Hillary Clinton/Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney", etc. You will find, if you read through all of the questions, those polled were not asked if they supported, did not support, or had never heard of Ron Paul. He was omitted from the poll. At the very bottom, the general question is asked of who you would most support in the Republican/Democrat primary (or some question to that effect). Here's where you see your 4%. Nice.

As for the claim of Ron Paul supporters being truthers, white supremacists, and people with tin foil hats…it's strange to me that for someone so "enlightened" as yourself, Dean from Ottawa, you obviously have not investigated Ron Paul's message for yourself. Here. http://www.ronpaul2008.com

gilliganscorner   December 4th, 2007 2:09 pm ET

Could people please stop wasting my time with comments about Ron Paul? The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats. He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.
Posted By Dean, Ottawa, Canada : December 4, 2007 1:25 pm

The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats.:
Care to back that up with any facts, Dean? That's a pretty wide brush you swing. I am sure that all the other Ron Paul supporters were as smart as you.

He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.
Your faith in the veracity of mainstream media is touching, Dean. I am sure that you place complete trust in the integrity and the ethics of media, learn what you are told, bury your critical thinking, and swallow whatever pablum they feed you.

I understand. I was like you once. It's hard when you grow up and enter the working force that things aren't quite what they tell you in school. My first awakening is when I learned about the JFK assassination. It's hard to learn that the establishment isn't looking out for you like they said they would.

I suggest you look around, Dean. If you are an intelligent person, don't be restrained by your own biases. The internet offers you a wonderful opportunity to learn things after you read the paper and watch the news. Re-discover yourself. Trigger your critical thinking skills again.

Open your eyes, man.

Ron Paul cured my apathy.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   December 4th, 2007 2:07 pm ET

I can't believe that people are worried about different candidates now ever before Iowa and New Hampshire have held their respective races. I wish all the state would get together and move back the dates for these primaries and caucuses to April or May. All this front loading is getting stupid because you need to do all this fund raising instead of writing policies and doing the work they were elected to do. With the exception of Mike Gravel, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mit Romney, everybody is still in office and should be doing that job.

Doug, New Jersey   December 4th, 2007 2:05 pm ET

"you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east."

Obviously I know all there is no know about libs since I knew that a lib like you could not respond to my comments without rewriting them.

So since you could not respond to what I typed and had to change it to what you could respond to, that shows you know I'm right and you are just another lib who sees Church going Americans as the same or even worse people as those calling for that teachers death.

Brad, Oak Creek, WI   December 4th, 2007 2:00 pm ET

Who's Ron Paul?

anon, ny, ny   December 4th, 2007 1:59 pm ET

It dawns on me that CNN must be a republican news network.

Why there are more negative news about Hillary than Obama? For example, why CNN shows the negative, but unfounded, comments of an obama supporter, Reicht, about Hillary? Why CNN does not report negative comments from a hillary supporter?

There have been biased comments from CNN anchors. For example, Glenn Beck (who has a 1-hr show at 7pm) said he was a republican, and he talked about american people do not like Hillary.

It appears that CNN wants Obama to win the nomination, so that the republican nominee can win more easily.

CNN looks like the Fox news network these days!

Micki Santa Clarita CA   December 4th, 2007 1:56 pm ET

I'm in the "ABC" camp — anybody but Clinton. Most of my friends are Democrat and they won't vote for her. The kindest word I've heard them use in reference to Hillary is "shrew". I haven't made up my mind yet but am fed up with the Republicans and haven't seen much to be impressed with from the Democrats. Crossing my fingers and hoping that this election will be different and give me a candidate I can vote FOR and not just someone I'm voting AGAINST.

kathe oakland, california   December 4th, 2007 1:56 pm ET

Hil, Hil, Hil. If all you can find to critize Obama about is his childhood dream of being President????? Poor You. Are you suggesting children, even black children don't dream of becoming President, Senators, CEOs. Wow what a President you will make Hil. You need to talk with Bill about your comments beforehand. You could learn a lot. This is exactly why I would not nor do I trust you….it is difficult to know who you are and what you really think.

Paul, New Orleans, LA   December 4th, 2007 1:54 pm ET

To: Dean, Ottawa, Canada

Worry about your own country. Have you even looked at what he stood for? What specific points do you not like about him? Provide some substance please.

David, Bay Area, CA   December 4th, 2007 1:53 pm ET

I can see it now. Guiliani wins the Repub nomination, Clinton wins the Dem, the Christian Right throws their weight behind Huckabee as a third party, Ron Paul enters as an independent, and then just to make things interesting Michael Bloomberg makes a run with Obama or Jeb on the ticket as VP.

You heard it here first.

GaryH, columbia, sc   December 4th, 2007 1:50 pm ET

It is pathetic to see obama supporters saying hillary bashing obama. The fact is obama was the first one to throw the first punch a couple of months ago, and hillary was quiet for a long time while reeciving the punches. It is time that hillary should punch back.

It is also ridiculous to hear people saying hillary's punch back may backfire, while these people was quiet when obama threw repeated punches.

What a punch of hyprocrits, without backbones!

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 1:47 pm ET

DEAR Dean, Ottawa, Canada:

Please stop wasting OUR time with YOUR comments!

You're not even an AMERICAN, so please Sir, Shut UP!

Okay, Dr. Paul is fine man, and I'm sure a fine Gynecologist. BUT, he is AN AMERICAN! Even "truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats", are AMERICANS. You Sir are NOT.

THAT is the American way: Equal Voices for Equal Votes. This is the basis of our First Amendment Right, and it is guaranteed by our Second Amendment Right! You, Sir, are not guaranteed anything under OUR Fourteenth Amendment Right!

This is an AMERICAN process, and it should not be fouled and befuddled with the viewpoints of FOREIGNERS, no matter how well-meaning they are.

If we let you speak up, then we have to listen to every other non-American out there. Even American Ex-Patriots, who, in my opinion are not entitled to being American after they abandon any ship, sinking or not.

Not letting any alien, legal or not, have their say in OUR future is OUR Right. If we did it the other way, then we would be without our own Sovereignty. Would you like it if we decided who you put on your hockey teams?

Alex, S.F., California   December 4th, 2007 1:46 pm ET

It is AMAZING how CNN.com has become such a supermarket tabloid now, with their lurid, misleading headlines. The original USA Today headline for this USA Today/Gallup poll is: "Poll: Giuliani, Clinton support slips a month from first votes." And here, CNN rewrites the headline sensationally as "Poll shows Clinton, Giuliani Down Big." Come on, CNN, wake up! How can a survey of 425 Republicans and 494 Democrats represent the whole nation? There are millions and millions of voters in this whole process, and the Presidential campaigns have not even started yet! CNN has gone from bad to worse since Ted Turner sold out. Polls are fake, fake, fake, and not worthy of anyone's attention. The fact is, no one knows who is going to be the nominees of either party yet.

Rodney Dallas TX   December 4th, 2007 1:43 pm ET

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA

Seriously John, Virginia Beach VA is NOT the south.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 1:41 pm ET

Why are you not giving Ron Paul the credit that he is due? For the first time in my life I actually donated to a campaign, and it was his. Please report on ALL candidates, not just the annoying ones.

concerned   December 4th, 2007 1:37 pm ET

To dean from Canada,

How far do you have your head up your ass? ron paul supporters are all rascists and cooks acccording to you? what a moron.

Adam, Sacramento   December 4th, 2007 1:37 pm ET

This election is incredibly hard to peg but the Iowa caucus should give us a decent read.

With so many bodies in both races, none of whom from everyone I talk to completely satisfies their parties base how the lower percentage candidates second choices break will be key.

On caucus night do we see them gelling around edwards obama clinton or even if you do the math Richardson Biden or Dodd on the Dem side.

Who does all gore endorse with his 19% want to vote for him block.

Who does Ted Kennedy endorse for the NH bump.

How do those endorsements if they come change the race.

Right now don't rule anyone out most are in this race. No one has demonstarted they aren't fit for office.

Clinton could be ruled to polarizing, Obama to Black, Edwards to inexperienced etc… The people are starting to pay attention now the real race starts. Grab some popcorn pick your horse and enjoy.

Clayton St.louis, Missouri   December 4th, 2007 1:34 pm ET

Once again they leave out Ron Paul…

Amy, Seattle, WA   December 4th, 2007 1:32 pm ET

Considering the candidates who have chances to be nominated, I would go with Clinton or Edwards who have liberal but more centric positions. I prefer Clinton who is more pragmatic and would bring a new view in the White House. Believe it or not, just for being a woman, she will bring change.

I would never vote for Obama who promotes a left-wing politics. If Obama run in the general election against let's say Huckabee or McCain, I would consider a Republican with no hesitation. I totally oppose Obama's populist approach of politics, I see this as a danger to the American values.

I would never

Coach Haughton NH   December 4th, 2007 1:30 pm ET

"Strength" and experience mean nothing unless you have the Honesty and integrity to do the right thing.

I'm sorry do you take the President of Harvard Law review who took a 15k a year job as a community organizer? And then made ethics reform the cause of his 11 year career as a legislator. Whose Healthcare plan is focused on reducing costs instead of forcing people to buy insurance.

Or the Candidate Whose dad was a congressman, husband was a governor, husband was president and then voted for the war in iraq in the senate?

She has seven years experience in the senate voting the wrong way. Voting for Iraq without reading the intelligence is outright betrayal of the american people. Keep making excuses for her if you want. Her healthcare plan will punish people who cannot afford insurance.

Hillary Clinton is by far the most Corrupt, Dishonest candidate for president and she's READY TO LEAD US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION ON DAY ONE.

Terry, des moines, ia   December 4th, 2007 1:28 pm ET

Why CNN did not post that Hillary Clinton was 26 points ahead of Obama two weeks ago, according to the AP-Pew national poll? Her poll will go up soon for sure.

Obama's national poll is still going sideway for months, averaging low 20's, meaning people do not beleive in him more.

Dean, Ottawa, Canada   December 4th, 2007 1:25 pm ET

Could people please stop wasting my time with comments about Ron Paul? The man does not exist outside of truthers, white supremacists and people who wear with tin foil hats. He isn't mentioned because any mention would be a waste of space.

Steve, NY   December 4th, 2007 1:25 pm ET

OH….the race for President of the United States is more than just a popularity contest……..good to hear!

PollM, Dallas Texas   December 4th, 2007 1:24 pm ET

Who do you believe among the Democratic Presidential Candidates stands to gain the most from the National Intelligence Estimate Report?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1188

.

Russ, Pittsburgh, PA   December 4th, 2007 1:23 pm ET

Why omit Ron Paul from the article? He is virtually tied with McCain and Thompson in the polls and he is raising more money than all of the Republican candidates.

The CNN bias towards the supposed frontrunners is sickening.

Posted By Tony, El Paso TX : December 4, 2007 10:34 am

I don't know where you get your info, but the poll had him in with 4%. No where near the 15% of Thompson and McCain. These Ron Paul supports are so annoying, they are like that little kid in the backseat that keeps saying "Are we there yet, are we there yet". You just want to backhand them and tell them to shut up.

Jose Card   December 4th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

"How in the world can a "National Poll" include less than 1000 people? It doesn't seem like it would be very accurate." Posted By Jim, Philadelphia PA

Unfortunately, very few people would even question the validity of these polling results. Good for Jim!

Every high school student should graduate with a course in Basic Statistics so they can go on to become knowledgeable voters. It should be made a national goal for competitiveness that our future generations of citizens will know how to read statistical analysis on elections, consumer products for shopping, and quality control of goods and services at work.

Not only do we have to know the ratio of the actual sample size used over the sufficient sample size, but also the random sampling method used for any polling results. Otherwise, you can be lied to all the time.

Poor education in math and statistics can weaken our democracy as well as our productivity.

Chuck   December 4th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

You all just don’t get it.
The majority of registered voters are women and like Chris Matthews said, if Hillary gets half of the women to vote for her she will win. This is why the national polls show her in the lead. The Republicans, Obama and Edwards don’t stand a chance. So put all your opinions aside and vote for the woman.

Mike, Milwaukee, WI   December 4th, 2007 1:19 pm ET

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.
————————————–

I have to respond to this ignorant post and I hope CNN does not delete it. Being a black man, there was of course so skepticism on my part on nominating OBAMA due to some racism that exists in America, but think about this one important fact…..

THOSE WHO WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, PROBABLY WOULD NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT ANYWAY……

so what does being black have to do with him winning? he is still very much ACCEPTED among the Dem base and highly popular among Independents.

Indendents decide elections….they are the ones who gave Bill Clinton, and George Bush two terms each…..so I think comments like these are both ignorant and undermining.

EUNICE, MARYLAND, U.S.A.   December 4th, 2007 1:15 pm ET

I am not surprise at all about the shift in the polls. This election is going to be between Hillary and Huckabee and Huckabee is going to win in the end.

Robert, Houston TX   December 4th, 2007 1:06 pm ET

There are too many polls, too early in these elections. The lesser known candidates don't stand a chance when newsgroups constantly report that one or two candidates are a sure thing.

Polls can influence the outcome of elections. We need to cut down on them and let the results be known when they are finalized, not after people have already been influenced for months ahead of time.

Let the candidates conduct their own polls and keep them to themselves so they know where they stand. No one else needs to know that there is a 5 point difference or a 45 point difference between two candidates. The one trailing should still have a chance to speak to the voters and expect that they might take them seriously.

E. C., Houston, Texas   December 4th, 2007 1:00 pm ET

It's About Time…..Giuliani and Clinton are the two WORST possible candiates for their respective parties. What are they doing in this race when NEITHER has the Integrity, Character, or Experience to be the Commander in Chief of this Nation? Hopefully, their numbers will continue to drop until they hit rock bottom.

Surrealist, Fort Myers, FL   December 4th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Good! A little shaking up of the top dogs–shows us the credibility of the others. Looks like the next Presidential candidate from either party will be truly the best. Clearly, the competition is tough, and it will be no "cake walk". I just hope in the national election we can do better than 50% of eligible voters actually taking the time to cast a ballot!!!

Bernard, Scotch Plains NJ   December 4th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Are folks going to tell me with a straight face that this woman and her cadre are capable of unifying the country? Healing old wounds? Creating consensus to solve the great problems?

If you want anger, hatred, and fear to be the dominant factors in American politics, she's 'your girl.'

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

A closer inspection of the polling data does confirm that those polled were not asked whether they would support, not support, or had not heard of Ron Paul.

anon, new york, ny   December 4th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

The difference is that Giuliani is in downfall, while Hillary is not. As some of my stocks in the market, she is just taking a temporary correction. She will rise again soon.

While many republicans do not think Giuliani represent the republican core values, most democrats do think Hillary represents the democrat core values than Obama or other candidates. In addition, polls consistently show that Hillary is the best of all democrat candidates to handle all political issues, and she is most electable. YES, ELECTABILITY WILL PROPEL HILLARY TO HIGHER POLL STANDING.

Hillary's poll standing will rise as the caucus and primary dates get closer. I will bet my tuna sandwich that she will win the nomination. LOL.

Hillary 08.

Brandi Feheley, Jonesboro, AR   December 4th, 2007 12:53 pm ET

Where's Ron Paul? We obviously did not find him here in your pocket, CNN. Guess we'll have to keep searching.

JB, MD   December 4th, 2007 12:48 pm ET

A much more interesting ticker might read: Down, Clinton shows Guiliani big poll.

Jonathan Drake, Columbus, Ohio   December 4th, 2007 12:47 pm ET

I can't help but notice that while Mitt Romney is "just behind the pack", there's not one mention of Ron Paul anywhere…was he even included in the poll? Doubt it.

http://www.teaparty07.com

Tex Mex, NYC, NY   December 4th, 2007 12:44 pm ET

It is becoming obvious that the nation as a whole does NOT want a "long term relationship" with "this woman,"…Mrs. Clinton. Clearly, the worse is yet to come for "this woman."

S. Wright   December 4th, 2007 12:42 pm ET

USA Today is considered a "scientific" source for a "poll"?

USA Today is for people who like their news written in crayon.

These appeals to authority by the mainstream press is why Americans are so uninformed by the mainstream press, and are looking at alternative sources.

Joeley Reno, Nevada   December 4th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

Hillary's experience is far more extensive than almost all the other candidates (Richardson is awesome too).

As a woman, she will have to work twice as much, twice as hard and be far more dedicated to success than any of the other candidates.

She will, she can, she must, so let's support her.

GO HILLARY 08!

hmr, fernandina beach, fl   December 4th, 2007 12:36 pm ET

Hillary won't win the nomination, nor would she win the election. An Edwards/Obama ticket would chew up any Republican opposition, as well they should.

Danny C TN   December 4th, 2007 12:35 pm ET

So raising over 10 million this quarter so far doenst get a mention from you all?? Ron Paul is rising while they are falling. Hmmm even Faux news reported that Ron Paul could easily pass the 12 million this quarter. Very impressive if you ask me. But then again I support Dr. Paul. We dont need you to spoon feed us our candidates. Could you be any more bias? Yellow journalism at its best.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 12:29 pm ET

Almost every single liberal Democrat in America sees the people out in the streets of the middle east screaming for the teacher who allowed a student to name a teddy bear Mohammad to be killed as the same or even better people than Americans who are not liberal democrats. The proof is all over the internet, check out DemocracyUnderground and other sites that show you just how the average liberal democrat thinks and feels.

Sure, the republicans suck, but this evil that is the liberal democrat and the hate that consumes their being is the last thing that any decent human being in America can and should support.

Do you think that people should hold parades for and continue to support and vote for child molesters and murderers? If that's a no then you will be voting republican in November. The above is fact, check out Ted Kennedy and Mr. Studds, learn the truth, base your vote and support solely on the truth and facts, thank you.

BTW, if this sound in truth and facts post makes it up on this site you will find further proof of the evil that is the liberal democrat below it, liberals show their true colors whenever someone posts the truth about what type of person most of them are.

Posted By Doug, New Jersey : December 4, 2007 10:31 am

Dude, I don't even know where to begin, you obviously know NOTHING about liberals or Democrats. I don't know anyone who is in favor of the fanatics ranting and raving in the streets of the middle east.
Go back on your meds Doug you're scaring the small children

David, Dallas Tx   December 4th, 2007 12:28 pm ET

Just keep showing those photos of Hillary in a victory pose, CNN. Never mind how many candidates are in the headline, much less in the body of the story.

jenna, Henderson NV   December 4th, 2007 12:25 pm ET

OK, IT’S OFFICIAL!
CNN IS NOT REPORTING ON RON PAUL BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PAID JUST HALF OF THEIR ATTENTION TO HIM AS THEY DO HILLARY OR BARRACK OR EVEN GIULIANI, HE MIGHT JUST WIN THE ELECTION. IMAGINE THE CAOS, IF A HONEST POLITICIAN WON THE PRESIDENCY INSTEAD OF THE COOKIE CUTTER LIARS THAT BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES ARE FILLED WITH.

THIS IS PATHETIC. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

(by the way, if you’re reading this right now, it’s a miracle, because there is a very good chance that CNN won’t post something as truthful as this.)

Joseph, LA, CA   December 4th, 2007 12:22 pm ET

Does CNN report news or try to make it? It seems that every news-show is an attack on the front-runner to bring them back so that the race is more competitive. And then you report those attacks as if they are newsworthy. Self-fulfulling prophecies? Great marketing, terrible reporting. Why, you're becoming more and more like…. Fox News.

Jim, Columbus, OH   December 4th, 2007 12:17 pm ET

This is exactly why the early states, like Iowa and New Hampshire, are important. The people in those places are making up their own minds and not being led entirely by what the media and polls say…If candidates were to be chosen according to whoever tops the polls on any given week, we'd be undermining the electoral process…

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 12:17 pm ET

In this horse race, it's neck and neck with four furlongs to go… Not much to place bets on yet.

Bruce Taylor,Berkeley,CA   December 4th, 2007 12:13 pm ET

The tide is indeed turning.By mid-January,Barack Obama will have replaced Clinton as the Democratic leader. If the Democratic Party is to truly embrace change,not a facsimile,the candidacy of Obama is to be embraced. The past just won't do now.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 4th, 2007 12:10 pm ET

And these polls are the result of how many? 500 people? Is this the definitiveness of CNN's accuracy?

Will this small group of unknown people have such a large say in our political future?

Puck, Pittsboro NC   December 4th, 2007 12:08 pm ET

What always strikes me when reading comments such as these is that we have become a nation of illiterates who care more for sniping at each other than we do about seriously considering the issues.

Learn to read carefully, questioning everything. And for crying out loud — learn how to spell and write a coherent sentence.

Jill Owings Mills, MD   December 4th, 2007 12:03 pm ET

I see some of the recent increase in Obama's popularity is due to the "endorsements" by TV stars like Oprah. For her fans who need someone to guide them by the nose to tell them who to vote for, they are glad to have someone make the decision for them. People need to do research on the various candidate's positions and not blindly follow some star's choice!

alan St Louis MO   December 4th, 2007 12:02 pm ET

TIME TO GO PARTY DEMOCRACY IS STARTING TO WORK

GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA
GO OBAMA

The WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST IS GOING DOWN IN FLAMES :) ONLY IN AMERICA

EDUCATED AMERICANS WANT OBAMA

AMERICAN SHEEP WANT CLINTON if she wins the sheep be dissapointed in there pick. "give me my handout you promissed me Hilliary.
OMG you lied to me!!! You gave my JOB, Land ,Money to CHINA. !!! Why did you do that Hillary??"

Don White, Brooklyn, NY   December 4th, 2007 12:02 pm ET

These headlines are big distractions. Unless the results of Iowa and NH are out, one can't say positively about any of the candidates. American people thia time are not going to vote based on the polls. They will find who is the most qualified and electable candidate.

Mike, Newark, DE   December 4th, 2007 12:01 pm ET

The most notable thing about this poll is that somebody who has publicly stated that he does not believe in the theory of evolution now has a fighting chance of being president. Imagine a leader whose decisions are based more on blind belief instead of concrete evidence. All the money, people, and technology invested by this country for doing foreign intelligence could be brushed aside in favor of what his faith says. This country has already suffered through 8 years of this type of decision making – four more would be devastating.

Jr., California   December 4th, 2007 11:59 am ET

John, Boston

"The novelty has finally worn off. When it comes right down to it, nobody in reality will vote for Hillary. I have no problem with a woman as president, just not this one."

I agree, could you imagine how interesting it would be if Condoleeza Rice ran against Shrillary?

S. Carter, Los Angeles   December 4th, 2007 11:59 am ET

I have been reading these comments on the ticker for some months now and I have come to this conclusion:

Comments coming from those in Florida seem to be the most absolute and non-logical arguments.

I am making a blanket statement, and there are those who are from Florida and have managed to be coherent, but the majority of Floridans are very immature with their arguments.

Sorry, it has just been buggin me for so long. They seem to have a blind faith for their canidate of choice and make absolute statements like "it will never happen" or tend to be hateful in their remarks.

Obviously this is not an exclusively Florida thing, I just notice alot comes from them.

Ok……I am ready for the hate

Jim, Philadelphia PA   December 4th, 2007 11:58 am ET

How in the world can a "National Poll" include less than 1000 people? It doesn't seem like it would be very accurate.

Simon,Pa   December 4th, 2007 11:57 am ET

wow,CNN, pictures of Hillary win, Hillary as a president, Hillary as commander in chief. I wish the media elects the presidents. It could be an easier thing for us Americans.

Christine   December 4th, 2007 11:55 am ET

I force myself to listen to listen to Sean Hannity's radio show (it's not easy). He hates the Democrats, but always defends Obama over Clinton. He does so because he knows if Mr. Obama were to win the nomination, the Republican attack machine would easily destroy Mr. Obama. "he is a Muslim". "went to a Muslim school"(ie "Islamofacist" supporter). "A vote for Obama, is a vote for for terrorism". I'm sorry, but that is exactly what will happen. It will make the 'swiftboating' of John Kerry, look like childsplay. It wasn't 'true', but it worked.
In a time where we are involved in a war with a Muslim country, Mr. Obama is not the right candidate.

Hillarylover in SA   December 4th, 2007 11:54 am ET

Monte Brown – HELLO WE LOVE YOU GUY down here in San Antonio. God Clinton staff should grab you up! You say it so well: It is time for Hillary to get at the other Democrats so that she can win the primaries. I am confident that the American people just won’t buy into petty attacks. The American people will choose Hillary Clinton because she’s is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.

Posted By Monte Brown, New York, NY : December 4, 2007 10:39 am

Shawn, Denver CO   December 4th, 2007 11:49 am ET

It seems to me that, at some point, the political establishment became enchanted with the same theory as the movie industry: the earlier you begin marketing, the better; and there is NO amount of time where that trend breaks down. So just as production studios today begin releasing teasers/trailers much earlier (when do you recall seeing trailers for a movie 1 1/2 years in advance of release in the '80s?) presidential candidates now want to hit the road a year in advance to gain brand recognition.

I'm hoping that the front runners lose and lose big before conventions, and I hope that happens every campaign season until these people are forced to return to a respectible schedule. After all, candidates coming out of the gate this early ultimately helps no one… except for the media outlets, think tanks, marketing execs and consultants that make their money from campaign cycles. The rest of us are just paying out the nose.

tommy   December 4th, 2007 11:46 am ET

Hillary Will Be the "ComeBack Kid".

Chris, Middletown, CT   December 4th, 2007 11:44 am ET

I'm impressed….the Democrats have started to read HRC responses..and her many positions (on the same subject) – and realize….we don't need more gridlock….(and the introduction of socialism) – we need a leader…and its not her….

KD, cherry hill NJ   December 4th, 2007 11:41 am ET

Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think white people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him.

yes hatmatters…I think white people in the aforementioned states will vote for Obama because some people are not as narrowminded as you. Perhaps, you should pay a little more attention to the issues than the color.

Posted By megan : December 4, 2007 10:53 am

Actually Senator Barack Hussein Obama will loose not because he is black. I think he will make a great President he is smart articulate and a passionate orator. But he will loose beacuse his name is Barack HUSSEIN Obama. forget the south they will not vote for him any way, but he will loose Middle America beacuse he is a HUSSEIN! do you really not think republican smear machine will swiftboat him with this and they will have a cake walk.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   December 4th, 2007 11:41 am ET

Regardless of how much these worthless popularity contests ebb and flow over the next few months, come election time it is going to be Giuliani v. Clinton.

Obama doesn't have what it takes (yet) to take Hillary down. She would have to take herself down. Team Hillary wants ANYONE but Giuliani in the general election.

Huckabee is currently taking advantage of the Christian conservative element who are concerned about Giuliani's moderate social views. He is also very affable which is also helping at this time. However, at the end of the day, his PRO-AMNESTY stance on illegal immigration will make it impossible for him to win the Republican nomination. His tax record will further doom him. The fact that he doesn't believe in evolution will preclude him from getting ANY independent voters and this alone would be fatal. His lack of ANY kind of foreign policy experience would just be icing on the cake. THIS is Team Hillary's dream opponent but it won't happen.

Z, St. Louis, MO.   December 4th, 2007 11:36 am ET

Yet again, the polls show the truth.
The voters have to choose not who's
better, but who's least bad.The best
the 2 party system we have to offer
is really pretty lousy.Both parties
are utterly corrupt and useless.
They cause more problems then they solve by fighting amongst themselves.
It's time to get more parties/people
involved and get out of this gridlock
the Repuiblican/Democrat parties have
this country in..

gilliganscorner   December 4th, 2007 11:35 am ET

We have the candidate that comes along once in a lifetime. His voting record is untarnished, he is a ten term Congressman, and he is the best educated politicians out there.

America, a candidate like him comes along once in a lifetime. The military-industrial complex, the mainstream media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS don’t like what he is doing, hence all of the media censorship surrounding his campaign.

For the love of God, your children, and your Country, and all else you hold dear, vote this man President.

Vote Ron Paul.

Consider this quote:

"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.

– US Bankers Magazine, Aug 25, 1924

Understand what is happening. Wake up. Vote Ron Paul

scott,manchester NH   December 4th, 2007 11:30 am ET

i absolutely have to say..i just read a comment about "america hopefully starting to understand that [hillary and rudy]are nasty, mean spirited, cutthroat politicians"….??????????
i've been to plenty of hillary campaign stops and those comments are about THE most bizarre i've read…
the real question is: does someone who write that stuff have any idea HOW nasty, meanspirited and cutthroat…..washington is????
the only way to neutralize THAT…is to have a change from the last hundred years of men in charge…

Zeke, Tustin, CA   December 4th, 2007 11:30 am ET

Who cares CNN. How about the headline with who the poll leaders are now. That would suffice.

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA   December 4th, 2007 11:29 am ET

It is time for Hillary to get at the other Democrats so that she can win the primaries. I am confident that the American people just won’t buy into petty attacks. The American people will choose Hillary Clinton because she’s is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.
Posted By Monte Brown, New York, NY : December 4, 2007 10:39 am

Mr. Brown, may I ask you what experience or qualifications are you talking about? If I am not mistaken, she was NOT the president, only the first lady. Like I have said before, just because you are having sex with the president, does not make you qualified or experienced. If that is your thinking sir, Monaca could run, right? Experience my butt. She then goes off to your state and runs for senate???? What is that? Why didn’t she go back to Arkansas? Why New York? Because she only wants this job for one reason, and that is to be the FIRST, not necessarily the BEST!!!!!!!!

Obama 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darrel Lone Rock Iowa   December 4th, 2007 11:28 am ET

What an change for cnn to report the polls on clinton yesterday clinton was in a surge and today she is falling?

The Middle Class working Americans that have not been represented in the past 15 years will vote for a clean up and when they do hillary and anyone like her will truly know what a free fall they will be taking.Enough of the past. It was thee most, dimm/corrupt/wag the finger lying/self serving/ politicians, we have ever seen in public display. enough already/ term limitations for starters/ line item veto to curb ear marks and pork barrel tactics/ If it don't stand on it own it should not stand/ The tit for tat mentality of washington is wrong! Even stupid, as it don't pass the common sense test .
common sense is important to me.
Vote Independant next time/

Tom - Dedham, Mass   December 4th, 2007 11:28 am ET

I think this is an example of the voters in both parties not wanting to have "buyer's remourse". H. Clinton's lack of character and integrity is starting to shine through and Giuliani's social liberalism is starting to really bother a good portion of Republicans. Huckabee will be next to see his numbers drop when his tax increases and spending hikes in Arkansas will become better known. You already see various conservative commentators becoming fearful of Huckabee.

Posted By Gerald R. San Antonio, Texas : December 4, 2007 10:38 am

You stole my thunder Gerald, as your points are valid as hell.

It is funny how CNN in writing this mentions Hillary's and Rudy's numbers dipping BECAUSE people are now paying attention.

Huckabee is the flavor of the month much like Thompson was. It will still come down to Romney and Rudy and Hillarity and Obama.

May the best man win……….

RonPaul 2008, Columbus, OH   December 4th, 2007 11:27 am ET

Where is Ron Paul? Why does CNN continue to ignore him?

If he's truly, legitimately behind, then state so and back your findings. But since he's ahead of many of the other candidates in both the polls and fundraising, it's negligent on CNN's part to continue to omit him.

Micahel Guinn, Ventura, CA   December 4th, 2007 11:25 am ET

There's a reason Sen. Clinton is down big-time in the polls. Anyone who is even marginally involved has seen that the "strong, experienced(?) leader" has a case of double-speak and Sen. Obama continues to gain strength.
For those who say Obama can't win- they said that about JFK and look what happened.
He brings hope and courage to a field of same-ole-song politicians. His LACK OF EXPERIENCE in Washington is NOT a negative thing!
It's time America.
Obama 08!

Kashia Jackson Brooklyn New York   December 4th, 2007 11:24 am ET

It's an absolute joke that Hillary Clinton tells voters she's the most qualified candidate. She was a lawyer in a small law firm in Arkansas, and then spent eight years in the White House trying to push socialized medicine on the American people and while her husband repeatedly had affairs with other women she blamed all her problems on "the vast right wing conspiracy." I'm a life long Democrat and will never vote for this phony. She is by far the most polarizing individual ever to run for the presidency and god help us all if this nasty person becomes president. She has no convictions and no beliefs except power and lying, and as Obama gets closer in the polls, she shows what she's all about with her mudslinging and dirty politics and high tech lynching of Obama.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 11:23 am ET

dmw in roeland park–

The south's unlikely to go Democratic anyway. But, it should be pointed out, the southern states tend to have higher percentages of black voters. If Obama could actually convince that historically-non-voting group to turn out it could be good for the country, and for the democrats.

Michael in Orange–

It's funny you say the GOP has a deeper pool of candidates, because polling consistently shows most Republicans are unhappy with their choices. Giuliani's viewed as liberal, especially socially, Romney is a northern flip-flopping Mormon, Thompson is Hollywood, McCain has taken several unpopular positions on torture, flag-burning, etc. etc., and even Huckabee is tainted by raising taxes. Democrats are polled as being much happier with their field, in general. Also, national polling consistently shows the Democratic candidates tied or with an edge over the Republican candidates in most match-ups.

Monte Brown in New York–

The idea that you equate being a "true Democrat" with supporting Hillary Clinton is absurd. A "true Democrat" will go with whatever candidate they feel will best advance liberal causes. If someone else happens to think Clinton won't do that, they shouldn't be criticized for it–Hillary Clinton is not queen of the democratic party. And that kind of thinking is exactly why some of us are concerned about electing another Clinton to office. This is America, the people should rule, and "the people" should not be shorthand for "the people named Bush or Clinton".

Preferring another candidate to Clinton is not "hating" it is "a difference of opinion". Accept it.

Patricia Gonzalez–

In what way are Clinton and Giuliani the only "viable" candidates? Clinton is still dominating national polls of course, but Giuliani's lead is much smaller, and he is definitely lagging in terms of momentum. Right now, Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson are cannibalizing each other because the conservative base of the Republican party can't decide which non-Giuliani candidate to vote for. After the ealry primary states (where Giuliani is all but guaranteed to fail), there will be a slew of news stories about which of them is emerging as front-runner, and after that you'll see a much stronger contention against Giuliani. His nomination is far from inevitable–in fact, his chances are probably only marginally better than Huckabee's or Romney's.

EE   December 4th, 2007 11:22 am ET

hatmatters

Mr Hatematters. Continue to wallow in dispair alone. Iowa is 90% white and they are overwhelmingly for Obama, the South has turned their back against Clinton, read the polls.

Stop demonizing the South u hatemonger. The states u have named have shown in other elections they are not racists as u are.

Get ready for Mr Obama/Ewards as President/VP of the USA .

By the way Mr Obama is biracial not black nor white.He is simply an american period!

Yolanda, SC   December 4th, 2007 11:21 am ET

So Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton may have lost some polling numbers But she is still ahead on all national polls right? Senator Barack Hussein Obama and Senator John Reid Edwards are still trailing her by double digits.

Dan, TX   December 4th, 2007 11:21 am ET

As another white Southerner, I can assure you Obama is more popular than Clinton. It is a joke to say otherwise. Clinton has 25-30% hard core support from the democrat side. The rest of the democrats are very uncomfortable with her. The vast majority of independents and republicans really dislike her.

But I want to talk about Clinton's recent attacks on Obama.

In response to Clinton's attacks, where are the newspaper articles supporting her and saying she is correct? Why aren't we seeing this? Oh right, because what she is saying doesn't hold up to scrutiny. She has shown herself to have poor judgment and to surround herself with poor advisors.

Obama is my choice. But Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, these authentic people are all better choices than Clinton. I would vote for any of them. I would never vote for Clinton. If Clinton is the nominee I'll be voting for the republican or a third party candidate.

Cathi, Greenville, South Carolina   December 4th, 2007 11:21 am ET

Have Americans lost our minds? A Clinton in the White House – again? Has everyone forgotten her husband's presidency – he was an adulterer in our country's sacred White House, he was impeached, his administration was a revolving door of minority appointees, and he was a bad liar. We need to ask ourselves – why don't we hear people saying we're not ready for a female president, Hillary? Where is the proof that you can work both sides of the aisle for the least amount of money? How does you plan on keeping the White House a class act, since it wasn't when you lived in it the last time? What group are you going to turn your back on after the election, just like you did by moving from Arkansas to New York? Are you also planning on appointing unqualified people to your administration just because they're minorities – like your husband did? I don't know about you, but two impeached president's in one lifetime is too many. Let's get real. Hillary is a true poltician that has proven that she (and her husband) is only out for herself. We need a president who's willing to be a true public servant – and not a poltiician. Otherwise, we'll just be spending the next four years hearing excuses for all of the lying.

Russ, Stratford CT   December 4th, 2007 11:21 am ET

The problem with electing either Hillary or Rudy is that of all the candidates, they would be the choices to keep America polarized in this "red vs blue" philosopy. It would be an incredibly ugly campaign. This needs to change to move the country forward.

As a republican, I will never vote for either of these two as we have to change the political tone to move forward.

If Rudy is nominated, I will vote for the Democratic candicate, if Hillary is nominated I will vote Republican.

If they are both nominated, I can then only hope for an independent. These two candiates will bring out the worst in America.

Lets hope for Obama, McCain or Huckabee. This country needs change.

Gabe, Austin TX   December 4th, 2007 11:19 am ET

I'm white and I will vote for Obama, this has nothing to do with skin color but with character and substance.

Leslie Waldo Fresno California   December 4th, 2007 11:18 am ET

Hopefully the American people finally got smart and don't want to see the two most unqualified and polarizing candidates, Hillary Clinton and Rudolph Giuliani, be their only choice next November. Both of them are nasty, mean spirited, cutthroat politicians and America needs someone who can bring us together and unite us all to solve the problems we face.

Daniel, NY   December 4th, 2007 11:13 am ET

A bunch of new general election polls were released this morning showing Clinton competitive in Colorado… and not so much in Arizona.

But the most important poll could be SUSA's survey of California's electoral vote initiative. The results suggest the initiative could pass, though Democrats should not get panicked yet.
Full roundup of all these polls here.

Shanna Johnson Appleton WI   December 4th, 2007 11:12 am ET

Funny how there is no mention of Ron Paul in this article. Real nice…
CNN you really are turning into FOX NEWS…

Jay, Kansas City, MO   December 4th, 2007 11:12 am ET

Why would a reputable news organization ever report on a poll with a 5% margin of error?

scott,manchester NH   December 4th, 2007 11:12 am ET

lets see if its possible for Iowans and the rest of the country to figure out that the male republican track record is what is killing this country.

its kind of funny to notice that bill clinton is able to speak so well of Hillary and pump up her qual's…and NO ONE running for prez in the GOP wants bush [closest thing for them to their top leadership] anywhere near them.

tells ya somethin.

Michael, Orange, NJ   December 4th, 2007 11:09 am ET

I disagree with the comment about Hillary not having character and Integrity. I think Hillary's problem is that she is someone who is direct and headstrong. She wants things done her way. That isn't all bad, but it certainly turns people off. Second, she is female, so anytime a woman seeks any sort of power, she is labeled as being "power hungry" We have had 43 presidents, I challenge you to name one who wasn't "power hungry" People don't seek the presidency for the money.

John, Boston MA   December 4th, 2007 11:09 am ET

The novelty has finally worn off. When it comes right down to it, nobody in reality will vote for Hillary. I have no problem with a woman as president, just not this one.

RealityKing   December 4th, 2007 11:08 am ET

How many times are you going to rerun this same picture?? I'm a thinking this is not Hillary's expression this morning concidering her big recent decline in the polls…

Michael Alexander   December 4th, 2007 11:07 am ET

Why is there no mention of Ron Paul?? He has raised more money, and consequently, garnered more support than any republican candidate. Huckabee is a pro-war evangelical minister, and he most likely has the inclinination to lead us to another larger war with Iran. The American population does not support this politician who acts more like a salesman than a leader. We all support Dr. Ron Paul, Democrat and Republican alike.

Rosa Birmingham, AL   December 4th, 2007 11:05 am ET

I hope this doesn't mean Obama will win the nomination. Neither Clinton or Obama can win a general election and the country can't survive another Republican: perpetual war, sky rocketing debt, loss of civil liberties, starving important domestic programs like education and biomedical research, crumbling infrastructure, etc. Can we please just find someone that is experienced, moderate, and not so dang polarizing. If you think the Repubs are not going to play the race or gender card in the general election you are only fooling yourself. I am sure they are both fine people but the outcome is too important to risk. Maybe next time.

Jose   December 4th, 2007 11:04 am ET

At this time in 2003, Howard Dean was the crowned king for the democratic nomination. And we all heard how that ended! Some unknown lesser candidate appeared at the top of the pile. Of course polls on election day 2004 had this lesser candidate winning.

Homer, Henderson, NV   December 4th, 2007 11:03 am ET

Anybody who's shallow enough not to vote for Obama because he's black is a Clinton-hating, foaming-at-the-mouth, hard core, "Rush is right" conservative, anyway. Why in the world do you think they would possibly vote for Hillary?

Fair,Washington DC   December 4th, 2007 11:00 am ET

Well this is all I'll say if Obama manages to "hijack" this nomination from under Hillary , he better deliver the general. He had the choice of supporting the strong Dem candidate that many think would win and ride his newfound popularity, get on some key commitees in the Senate earning some experience and really coming in as the strong dem nominee in 4-8 yrs that Dems would know and be excited about. Instead Mr. Obama listened to the media, Oprah, his arrogance and said I am going to come in and take this because I'm Barack. OK Mr Obama as they say in poker you're all in, but I hope you understand this will be your only shot because of the way you did this. If you win , gamble paid off, good on you. I personally think you gambled to early on an opportunity as big as being the Pres of the US.

Chuck   December 4th, 2007 10:58 am ET

The biggest problem America has right now is that business interests have taken over the U.S. Government, a consequence of the Republican Party controlling the White House and Congress. Many politicians in Congress are afraid of their lobbyists and others are addicted to the money, which disenfranchised average voters. Only one candidate in any party can and will stand up to big corporations effectively, and that's John Edwards.

DEAR VOTERS: PLEASE CONSIDER EDWARDS!

cathy,san diego,ca   December 4th, 2007 10:57 am ET

CNN must report the truth this time around otherwise the truth is on the way and they must avoid shame after months of lying to American People…

Robert, Buffalo, NY   December 4th, 2007 10:57 am ET

Do you think it would be possible to cover other 'minor' candidates that are growing in support such as Ron Paul and stop paying so much attention to Obama, Guiliani, Edwards, Clinton etc who are a vote for the status quo?

Patricia Gonzalez, Miami, FL   December 4th, 2007 10:55 am ET

What happens in Iowa and New Hampshire will have absolutely no bearing on who gets the party's nomination. It will be Hillary and Rudy as the presidential party nominees. It's inevitable so this drop is only temporary and when people go to the polls to actually vote not take a survey, the results will be what they should be- Hillary for the Democrats and Rudy for the Republicans. They are the only real viable candidates.

V. Novosad   December 4th, 2007 10:55 am ET

Agreeing with those who say Republicans will win the presidency if the Democratic candidates don't stop their present commitment to suicide. Obama and his handlers have almost totally withdrawn from presenting positive plans for a democratic win. Instead, he has fallen prey to party destruction with his constant bashing of Hillary Clinton, the only candidate who, according to early polls, can retake the White House.

As to Clinton's claim of inevitability, John McCain professed the identical claim, when questioned by Chris Matthews last week, said "I will win." Did we hear an outcry from his fellow candidates? No, only words of respect from Mike Huckabee, who leads the Republican candidates now. Please get wise, Mr. Obama, and start running on your record and plans and quit helping your Republican opponents.

steve,boston,ma   December 4th, 2007 10:54 am ET

From that CNN Picture, Hillary has wonnnnnnnnnnnnnn, game over. Cnn get a life! This is not where Iowans are!

andrew s. rostolder hillsdale nj   December 4th, 2007 10:53 am ET

the hillary and rudy show are putting us to sleep……. wake me when it is over.

megan   December 4th, 2007 10:53 am ET

Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think white people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him.

yes hatmatters…I think white people in the aforementioned states will vote for Obama because some people are not as narrowminded as you. Perhaps, you should pay a little more attention to the issues than the color.

Robert Allen, Dallas, TX   December 4th, 2007 10:51 am ET

Everytime I hear any of the current candidates "address" an issue the only thing I hear is a "non answer" answer. Frankly I am getting fed up with every announced candidate's lack of candor.

Seriously folks, do you honestly believe that either group of candidates contains just one candidate who is the best and brightest the U. S. has to offer? The person who should be elected is someone, somewhere who doesn't really thirst for power but could run this government as best as possible and with sound fiscal policy.

S/He is hiding somewhere. Ok! 1, 2, 3 all out can come in free.

Bob Allen

james, Minneapoils, MN   December 4th, 2007 10:42 am ET

Harold Ford Jr. is a coward and a man of little integrity. He is just mad because he lost cause in a tight race and the GOP used the race card against him.

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA   December 4th, 2007 10:40 am ET

Posted By hatmatters : December 4, 2007 9:39 am

“Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think white people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him. Not going to happen. An Obama nomination is wasted vote. Democrats need to wise up or we are just going to give the Republicans the White House again. Don't be a fool.”

Sir, I am white and from the south. I would rather vote for him any day than for HRC. I will not succumb to threats that I should vote for her because she is the only one that can win. B.S. You call it a wasted vote, I call it MY VOICE and it will be heard.

I do agree with you that it will be hard for him to get elected because of his skin color: not impossible, but God dammit, enough is enough. Here we are some 231 years later and still dealing with race. I am also in the military and I serve with many people of different skin colors, but guess what, we all bleed RED. If we are still hung up on race, then we are still in the dark ages if you ask me. I am ready for REAL change in the white house, not the same ole crap.
Oh, by the way, if that is how people decide to vote in the South (skin color), then I am moving to Canada. If this is still an issue now, then I guess it will be forever and I do not want this for my country. I am not serving my country for this backward way of thinking. I do it for my country’s betterment and protection not to protect a bunch of southern white people who hate people not like them. PEACE OUT!!!!!!

Monte Brown, New York, NY   December 4th, 2007 10:39 am ET

The new polls showing Hillary’s numbers drop are just an example of the ups and downs of politics and it shows America how many people are influenced by the hate, lies and demagoguery. They will reverse back in her favor. It is now time for Hillary to take her gloves off and hit hard at those who think that they can take away the opportunity for America to bring forth the change we NEED. The haters on the right and the egomaniacs on the left have already done their dirt. Now it’s time for them to feel the fire. Hillary has already been through this before and it's nothing new.

Hillary’s poll numbers have dropped because she receives more scrutiny than other candidates. The Republican candidates might say that they want to run against Hillary, but they know that, should Hillary not be nominated, it would take a big burden off of their load and they would more than likely win. The Republicans are known for saying one thing and meaning another. The Democrats who bash Clinton, mainly Obama and Edwards, are not trying to win the primary on policy, but are using the negative attacks manufactured by the reactionaries to eat away at Hillary’s numbers. That is not fair, but it’s politics and is nothing unfamiliar to Hillary. She will not bout out. Instead she will let the people decide. Now it is time for her to make a contrast between her solid policies and the ying yang of the other candidates.

American people should listen to Hillary Clinton instead of the haters, should form an opinion based on facts, not contempt and should vote accordingly. Please, please don’t listen to the haters. American people should be tired of the haters by now, especially the Hillary haters. People who say that they don’t want another 8 years of the Clintons really want a Republican in the White House. The Clinton’s policies are good for American values. People who say that Hillary Clinton’s unfavorable ratings make her unelectable are really right wing demagogues who try to use this absurd notion to influence others to not vote for Hillary. True Democrats would not utter any of this nonsense because true Democrats understand that the right wingers have been at Hillary for 15 years with their hate. The Obama and Edwards’s campaigns have tried to use the hate, lies and demagoguery to advance their own campaigns. That’s not a Democrat. That’s an egomaniacal opportunist.

It is time for Hillary to get at the other Democrats so that she can win the primaries. I am confident that the American people just won’t buy into petty attacks. The American people will choose Hillary Clinton because she’s is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.

Gerald R. San Antonio, Texas   December 4th, 2007 10:38 am ET

I think this is an example of the voters in both parties not wanting to have "buyer's remourse". H. Clinton's lack of character and integrity is starting to shine through and Giuliani's social liberalism is starting to really bother a good portion of Republicans. Huckabee will be next to see his numbers drop when his tax increases and spending hikes in Arkansas will become better known. You already see various conservative commentators becoming fearful of Huckabee.

Michael, Orange, NJ   December 4th, 2007 10:36 am ET

I think the democratic party in general is doomed. Hillary started off good, but I don't know where the campaign is gooing. Obama is nothing but fluff and Edwards is a far-left lunatic. Its sad to say, the but the GOP has a deeper pool of candidates to choose from. I see another 4 years of GOP leadership. Joe BIden should and Richardson are my choices. I like Hillary, but she is too polarizing to win the presidency

Tony, El Paso TX   December 4th, 2007 10:34 am ET

Why omit Ron Paul from the article? He is virtually tied with McCain and Thompson in the polls and he is raising more money than all of the Republican candidates.

The CNN bias towards the supposed frontrunners is sickening.

Doug, New Jersey   December 4th, 2007 10:31 am ET

Almost every single liberal Democrat in America sees the people out in the streets of the middle east screaming for the teacher who allowed a student to name a teddy bear Mohammad to be killed as the same or even better people than Americans who are not liberal democrats. The proof is all over the internet, check out DemocracyUnderground and other sites that show you just how the average liberal democrat thinks and feels.

Sure, the republicans suck, but this evil that is the liberal democrat and the hate that consumes their being is the last thing that any decent human being in America can and should support.

Do you think that people should hold parades for and continue to support and vote for child molesters and murderers? If that's a no then you will be voting republican in November. The above is fact, check out Ted Kennedy and Mr. Studds, learn the truth, base your vote and support solely on the truth and facts, thank you.

BTW, if this sound in truth and facts post makes it up on this site you will find further proof of the evil that is the liberal democrat below it, liberals show their true colors whenever someone posts the truth about what type of person most of them are.

Hoping in SA   December 4th, 2007 10:30 am ET

HILLARY IS THE ONLY CHOICE FOR THE USA.

STOP BEING AFRAID OF A WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY TO HEIGHTS ITS NEVER KNOWN IT COULD REACH!

WE STAND BEHIND MS. CLINTON. WE'RE ON FIRE!!! CLINTON 08

Nita - SA - TX   December 4th, 2007 10:26 am ET

I agree 100% of what African-American state Sen. Robert Ford said, when he announced he was backing Hillary Clinton.

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.

Posted By Jen, miami, florida : December 4, 2007 9:28 am

Liberal Chic   December 4th, 2007 10:25 am ET

That's too bad about Giuliani. As much as he's personaly repugnant, he's the most acceptable to most Americans (in my opinion, in any case). I would hate to even think about social conservatives in power again.

But let's go, Hillary! Get your stuff together and go kick butt in Iowa!

She can still kick this primary. Let's go.

Hillarylover in SA   December 4th, 2007 10:25 am ET

Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him. Not going to happen. An Obama nomination is wasted vote. Democrats need to wise up or we are just going to give the Republicans the White House again. Don't be a fool.

CLINTON 08

Posted By hatmatters : December 4, 2007 9:39 am

dmw, roeland park, ks   December 4th, 2007 10:23 am ET

When polls are based on so few people, in this case 494 Democrats and 425 Republicans, that poll can not be taken seriously as fact of the end result.

As logical, intelligent electorates, we need to really take notice of the methodology of these polls. Polls can slant anyway based on HOW questions were posed. So, I take these small sample polls with a grain of salt.

I say that Democrats are killing each other with how much hatred is being spewed by the supporters of these candidates.

I do feel that when all is said and done, Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. But, if Obama gets the nomination, then good for him; but the Democrats will lose the Presidency because no matter what anyone says, the South will NOT vote for a black man. Just look to Harold Ford, the Congressman from Tennessee who tried to run for the Senate seat there. He had experience for miles over his competitor, yet, in Tennessee they used the race card and Harold Ford lost. It will happen again with Obama and he will not win one Southern State.
Just food for thought.

Helen Back, Andover MA   December 4th, 2007 10:23 am ET

Note again no mention of Ron Paul… maybe that's why their numbers have dropped considerably. The US is waking up.

anon New York, NY   December 4th, 2007 10:21 am ET

The New York Times ran a front-page story this morning about Democratic candidates for Congress in the heartland who will be in danger of losing if Clinton is at the top of the ticket.

Hillary CLinton could care less if Madame Speaker Pelosi loses her job- she just cares about herself.

J Houston, TX   December 4th, 2007 10:20 am ET

American voters should have the option of "D – None of the Above."

Or perhaps we could vote for
A: ___ endorsed by Chuck Norris
B: ___ endorsed by Oprah Winfrey
C: ___ endorsed by Paris Hilton

For the first time in my life, I think this election has shown how pitiful the system has gotten. At this point I wish they'd amend the constitution and add in

E. Arnold Schwarzenager

Howard, Huntington, NY   December 4th, 2007 10:20 am ET

Jen: "Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.

That is ridiculous and self-defeating. With outdated attitudes like that, we'll never move forward as a country. It's really shocking that a black man would refuse to support a candidate because they're also black.

Brandie Tampa, FL   December 4th, 2007 10:19 am ET

To Jen, Miami, FL:

Just because you & other Americans MAY be racist & Robert Ford blind, the entire democratic party is supposed to support YOU? Maybe you should run for president. You sound like a JEN-ius with great rationale.

So, myself, as a woman, I say Hillary is a woman, therefore, there are too many men in the world, they won't vote for her, the numbers don't add up…we should abort Hillary???

There are too many people that don't bother to think before making ignorant posts.

Everyone put the Wright brothers down when they wanted to fly. So? When was the last time YOU flew? Doesn't seem so crazy now does it? If America wants a change, Obama is a breath of fresh air. I have nothing against Hillary & would NOT make ignorant, arrogant comments against her. I don't even think You, Jen, or Ford are stupid, but you are the non-believers. It's people that think like you that would have America still in a horse & buggy. If everyone listened to comments from people like you & took them to heart, we wouldn't have anything worthwhile. Cars, planes, medical equipment—NOTHING.

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 10:17 am ET

I'm frankly appalled that democrats are considering not voting for Obama because he's black. I don't care if it's cynicism about his chances rather than racism, it's still wrong. If you think he's the best candidate, vote for him. And, oddly enough, most of the women I know think it would be harder for a woman to get elected than a black man. I disagree, but polling actually supports them–my a thin margin (something like 95% to 92%) people indicate that they would be more willing to vote for a black presidential candidate than a female presidential candidate. Maybe they just don't want to admit racism to the pollsters (or sexism for that matter), but I don't see why "don't vote for Obama because he's black and can't be elected" makes much more sense than "don't vote for Clinton because she's a woman and can't be elected".

People, in general, indicate MUCH more resistance to Mormons being elected, and yet Romney marches on.

Wes, Columbia, SC   December 4th, 2007 10:17 am ET

you can't put much into these skewered polls. they are merely a product of the media to condition us to think a certain way. they are not great indicators. remember how Kerry was supposedly trouncing Bush but we know how that turned out.

Ivelisse   December 4th, 2007 10:15 am ET

to John Karsten and all the Obama supporters around here……

Hillary's number may be going down…. BUT OBAMA'S NUMBERS ARE NOT GOING UP….

just stating the obvious….

Ben, Keene, NH   December 4th, 2007 10:13 am ET

After seeing all of these people for months here in New Hampshire, it's becoming clear that when you look at Romney, Clinton, and Giuliani, none of them are authentic people. They're so scripted, calculating, ambitious, and yet timid that they don't any signs of genuineness. And if they're not genuine, how are we to get a sense of what they really think and believe — other than they desperately want to be president? Support is squishy for them because whatever humanity they contain can't emerge from the endless image management that candidates too often succumb to. At least with McCain, Biden, Paul, and Kucinich, you know they're there because their passion for issues outweighs their consuming ambition for high office.

Will, NYC   December 4th, 2007 10:11 am ET

"Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.

Posted By Jen, miami, florida : December 4, 2007 9:28 am"

This person is a republican, true democrats do not refer to ourselves as 'the democrat' party, that's How George Bush refers to us. We are the DemocratIC party. Shill somewhere else, republican. We all know you conservatives hope and pray it's Hillary.

mickey,sanmarcos,tx   December 4th, 2007 10:10 am ET

Who is surprised about this they have been campaining way to long, people are bound to get tired of them sooner or later. The media is pushing Huckabee so during the general election time they can shred him to pieces about his religious beliefs.

Darrel Schmidt, Iowa   December 4th, 2007 10:09 am ET

What an about Face For CNN and the polls as reported on Clinton Yesterday and now today.
I knew quite well CNN was wrong Yesterday showing a surge for Clinton.

Get out and listen to the People as I do and the Support for her is in a free fall. Sort of tired of the same old same old political retorik! Time is now for change and Clean up the mess from the Past 15 Years of puting corporate interest ahead of Middle Class working Americans that speak English.
Vote Independant this time around
Then the clean up process will take place

Mark g, BBH, ME   December 4th, 2007 10:07 am ET

Someday soon, you shall have to admit that Dr. Ron Paul is legit, I am shamed by the medias mass manipulation. Huckabee is not even going to survive the primaries, he has no money.

Wait until the 16th, you want a revolution, your about to see one, ideologically speaking of course.

Wynter, Loudon, NH   December 4th, 2007 10:07 am ET

With all the heavy advertisements being put on the air for McCain, Obama, and the other second tier candidates, its normal to see some bump for their buck. What will really matter is if it will stay up there or will it fade away when people go to vote in the primary.

Telling it like I see it,
Wynter

John, Raleigh   December 4th, 2007 10:04 am ET

"Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is a close fourth with 12 percent."

Actually he is fifth, with Rudy, Huckabee, McCain and Thompson ahead of him.

Interesting that he gets much more time than the McCain and Huckabee who are well ahead of him. And more time than Edwards who is 3rd on the Democratic side.

Ben, Ann Arbor, MI   December 4th, 2007 9:56 am ET

The first thing that struck me, was that Romney is in fifth place amongst the five Republicans mentioned, and he is listed as being fourth. I thought one of the previous 19 comments would have pointed that out. If two people are tied for third, they are actually tied for 3rd-4th.

Lee, Ann Arbor, Michigan   December 4th, 2007 9:54 am ET

Obviously, the more the American people see the REAL HILLARY, the more they're going to DISLIKE HER.

Even the New York Times is running an article today saying that many democratic House and Senate candidates DON'T WANT HILLARY to run because she is TOO POLORIZING. They will cost them their elections!!!

HILLARY WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THE USA.

Shawnie - Grants Pass, OR   December 4th, 2007 9:53 am ET

Giuliani is gone…

Mike S., New Orleans, Louisiana   December 4th, 2007 9:53 am ET

American voters should have the option of "D – None of the Above."

Or perhaps we could vote for
A: ___ endorsed by Chuck Norris
B: ___ endorsed by Oprah Winfrey
C: ___ endorsed by Paris Hilton

Chris, Toledo, OH   December 4th, 2007 9:46 am ET

The media is ridiculous. These polls aren't real.

Daniel, NY   December 4th, 2007 9:43 am ET

Check out this list of polls from very red states (Alabama, Kansas, Kentucky, Georgia) that show Hillary Clinton is very competitive — she is in single-digits of Rudy Giuliani in all of them.

LinnieFB, Corona CA   December 4th, 2007 9:43 am ET

So much for 'inevitability.'

Ahtram, Oakton, Virginia   December 4th, 2007 9:41 am ET

What I want to know is: What's happened to Hillary's "Plantation Theory" when it comes to dealing with Barack Obama? Remember when Hillary made that really gross statement that the Bush Administration was treating blacks like they still lived on a "planation"? (One of the all-time most pandering, incendiary statements in history.)

Well–why is Hillary being so mean to Barack Obama? His being black and all that? She must think she's the owner of a plantation–you know, a nice big white house, like Tara.

Well, I better watch it. You never know which of Hillary's headquarters might blow up as a result of my pointing out Hillary's blatant racism.

Bill, Atlanta, GA   December 4th, 2007 9:41 am ET

No surprise here. Both Republican and Democrat candidates have shown during the debates they can be effective leaders. The only thing missing from this election were the voters who finally decided to wake up and take notice.

Ron, TX   December 4th, 2007 9:40 am ET

Wow. Clinton sure is tanking. I guess that pretty much proves that AP poll -released- yesterday, that was actually three weeks old, was pretty much -three weeks old-. And the polls released a few days ago that showed Obama climbing in the early states, polls -actually done- a few days ago, were more accurate.

After Clinton actually took a pathetic jab at Obama for saying in -KINDERGARTEN- that he wanted to be President (I'm serious. She really did…), I won't be surprised when she continues to tank.

Chris, Washington, D.C.   December 4th, 2007 9:39 am ET

Is the rise in Huckabee support entirely from him getting Chuck Norris' endorsement? I think we live in a crazy enough world that it's true.

Anyways, I'm happy to see Clinton's lead fall and Mitt Romney in fourth place, since they're my least favorite candidates on either side.

hatmatters   December 4th, 2007 9:39 am ET

Obama supporters are wasting their vote. Forget the South. Do you think white people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Florida are going to vote for him. Not going to happen. An Obama nomination is wasted vote. Democrats need to wise up or we are just going to give the Republicans the White House again. Don't be a fool.

You Know Who Tampa, FL   December 4th, 2007 9:38 am ET

LET US NOT FORGET THE RACE IS NOT NEARLY OVER.

Now is the time you will see the candidates reaching for the "dirty". Hill & Giul will dig for something lame on their opponents. Did anyone catch Guil snagging Romney about the illegals working at his mansion? It made Romney look like a schmuck, but it's true…are you supposed to request papers from everyone who speaks Spanish in this country? …'Cause living in Florida, people that ARE residents don't even TRY to speak English…I worked with the general public & witnessed it DAILY!!! Immigration is a tough issue. It definitely needs reform, but first, government needs to ensure they don't get sued for "racism" for confusing a Spanish-only speaking resident for an illegal. New law: To live in America is to SPEAK ENGLISH. No more "Press 1 for English." That's ridiculous. Do France, Mexico, Poland, Italy, Germany, etc., have press 1 for THEIR OWN language? People need to enter LEGALLY & speak the primary language. You come here & reap the benefits of a society, but don't have the common courtesy to speak the language. What does that say about America.

karen , nj.   December 4th, 2007 9:35 am ET

that's because Hillary is a control freek and rudy has been outshone by romney and huckabee.

Anonymous   December 4th, 2007 9:34 am ET

Maybe we will be saved from the Witch yet. Go Edwards/Obama!

Steve, Landing, NJ   December 4th, 2007 9:33 am ET

Cool, this'll be interesting. Though, personally, I can't wait for the primaries to be over. I've been appalled at the behavior of the democrats thus far–not the candidates, who have actually been far less vitriolic than I would have expected, but of their supporters who yell and whine and insult each other and the other candidates. Accept it guys, the Democrats have a really good field here. At minimum, Clinton, Obama, and Biden, and Richardson are all much more attractive candidates than Kerry was in the last election, and Edwards has really made progress in shifting his image away from the inoffensive, ineffectual vice presidential candidate he made. Whoever wins the nomination, we're going to be in very good shape to win nationally, and we're going to have someone who's got some actual policy knowledge to work with. Compare this to the Republican field (in which even the Republicans, according to polling, are immensely dissatisfied) and we're looking pretty golden.

p-brain, Bucyrus, OH   December 4th, 2007 9:33 am ET

All a bunch of stinkers.

Honestly, America! Are THESE the jokers YOU want for President?

Bill   December 4th, 2007 9:31 am ET

"Clinton and Giuliani's declines are the biggest one-month drop they have seen since the presidential election season began."

America, do you have any idea of how ridiculous this is? The election season should not begin for another six weeks and it has already been going on for over a year. We do not need so long to pick our candidates for president. The only purpose this long, drawn-out "election season" serves is to drive up the cost of running for public office. We are being manipulated and should be refusing to participate until the year 2008 begins.

Peggy Upton, Davisburg MI   December 4th, 2007 9:29 am ET

What about Ron Paul? I think CNN is forgetting the one candidate whose support continues to grow!

Jen, miami, florida   December 4th, 2007 9:28 am ET

I agree 100% of what African-American state Sen. Robert Ford said, when he announced he was backing Hillary Clinton.

"Everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said, explaining what would happen if Obama were nominated. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket—we'd lose the House, the Senate, and the governors and everything."

Stop Obama. Save the Democrat Party.

Michael Sheridan, Grand Rapids, MI   December 4th, 2007 9:27 am ET

National political polls before the first primary are less meaningful than pre-season college football rankings.

Clinton is allegedly way ahead nationally – but if she doesn't win Iowa, her national numbers will drop faster than Dick Cheney's hunting partners, because it will peel away that tissue-thin veneer of "inevitability". And her current performances in Iowa polls are starting to make me think that "if" in the previous sentence should be a "when".

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA   December 4th, 2007 9:27 am ET

Now this gives me a nice warm and fuzzy feeling inside. I hope these number keep falling and falling. Keep it up Obama!!

OBAMA 2008!!!!!!!

demwit   December 4th, 2007 9:22 am ET

Geee, I wonder who the unbiased journalists at CNN want to win..

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