Hello my dear fellow americans let us override our lust for arrogance and power men have ruled this country 4 over 230 years and its about time we make change that is well deserving for the majority of us americans because the majority of us r women not black and while i have nothing whatsoever against black americans i think a white woman comes 1st shes the majority of our nation and she has 2 b elected and so hillary whos been comendable& praiseworthy on so so many issues& has experience more than
Obama

I've just read that some Republicans in Iowa were pretending to support Obama to knock Clinton out of the race because they know they can take on Obama easier. Anybody else hear this

I am disgusted that the prospect of the first USA woman president is, apparently, far more terrifying than that of the first black man.

(That despite the fact that black men got the vote in the USA five decades or so before women, white, black or otherwise.)

I will not vote for Oprama. If the powers-that-be conspire to nominate him I will, for the first time in my life, switch parties and vote for anyone else.

Steve

I completely understand the desire to not have another republican in the whitehouse but we as democrats are not the deciding votes. That 12% of undecideds come novemeber of 08 are and they aren't just mad at Bush they are mad at washington.

No candidate screams washington insider like hillary does on either side of this race.

A change election means change from washington politics as usual. Clinton = washington politics as usual. We may nominate her but she won't win. Same ideas same package has failed to get it done.

Bush and cheney and no sitting republican washingtonites are in this race. Hillary loses the general.

We know exactly how the republican and democrat vote splits this election is about who gets the independents.

Best thing that happened to republicans was the democratic victory last year now Washington democrats are as guilty of washington gridlock as the republicans in their minds.

Look at the republican polls right now. Not a single republican has gotten the passion of the republican party. Their motivation to get out and vote in november of 08 will be real low unless we put a olarizing hated hillary opposite a schmuck they don't really like that much. THey'll show up to vote against her.

Hillary = Loss.

With edwards and biden accepting matching funds they will be at a huge economic disadvantage vs the republican money machine now and that means Richardson or Obama are our best bets as Dodd is also an insider.

My vote the pro second amendment red state governor that won re-election with 67% of the vote has great ideas including being a supply side economics democrat. If he gets airtime he'll play well, rushing to get points out in scant minutes makes it real hard to shine. I'ld love an richardson/obama ticket in either order they complement each other well.

IOWA OBAMA IS NOT THE ANSWER!
It is proven over and over in his short time as a senator that Obama doesn't have the nerve to take on tough issues. Notice Obama is ducking votes on abortion and Iran!!! Seeking a trillion-dollar tax hike and raising the retirement age for Social Security!!!! PLAY ATTENTION IOWA! DON’T WASTE YOUR VOTE!
Obama completely skipped the Senate vote on Iran. But throws mud at ALL the other senators doing their job. Take a look at his public tenure in the Illinois Legislature, where lawmakers can vote "present"?? (If you can believe that), instead of yes or no on a bill. Obama, votes “present" on SEVEN ABORTION MEASURES!!!! Unbelievable! WAKE UP IOWA! The President can't vote 'present.' Nor pick and choose which challenges he will face. This guy is afraid to make ANY decisions. LOOK AT THE FACTS IOWANS.
IOWANS the world is watching you first! SHOW THAT YOUR ARE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, Not Americans who would see out this great country for a TV talk show host!!!
DO NOT WASTE YOUR VOTE ON OBAMA he cannot win in the general election. I vote for him is a vote for the Republican Party

Madame President of the United States…it's an extraordinary thought. We truly are in a momentous time, where a woman's potential has no limitations," "Hillary Clinton has already proven to a generation of women that there are no limits for success. She is driven by her passion for public service and her belief in the enormous potential of our country. Smart, capable and strong in her convictions, Hillary has transcended the dictates of what is thought to be possible for our time.
"Hillary is a powerful voice for change as we find our country at an important crossroads. Under her leadership, our country will regain its respect within the global community. She will prioritize issues of global climate change, universal healthcare and rebuilding a strong economy. After 8 long years, the public will once again have faith in their government.
"Another former first lady, Eleanor Roosevelt once wrote, 'In government, in business, and in the professions there may be a day when women will be looked upon as persons. We are, however, far from that day as yet.' More than 50 years later 'that day' is now upon us…and Hillary Clinton is ready to shatter through that glass ceiling for all women."
SHAME ON YOU OPRAH!
VOTE FOR CLINTON

IOWA OBAMA IS NOT THE ANSWER!
It is proven over and over in his short time as a senator that Obama doesn't have the nerve to take on tough issues. Notice Obama is ducking votes on abortion and Iran!!! Seeking a trillion-dollar tax hike and raising the retirement age for Social Security!!!! PLAY ATTENTION IOWA! DON’T WASTE YOUR VOTE!
Obama completely skipped the Senate vote on Iran. But throws mud at ALL the other senators doing their job. Take a look at his public tenure in the Illinois Legislature, where lawmakers can vote "present"?? (If you can believe that), instead of yes or no on a bill. Obama, votes “present" on SEVEN ABORTION MEASURES!!!! Unbelievable! WAKE UP IOWA! The President can't vote 'present.' Nor pick and choose which challenges he will face. This guy is afraid to make ANY decisions. LOOK AT THE FACTS IOWANS.
IOWANS the world is watching you first! SHOW THAT YOUR ARE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, Not Americans who would see out this great country for a TV talk show host!!!
DO NOT WASTE YOUR VOTE ON OBAMA he cannot win in the general election. I vote for him is a vote for the Republican Party

Yes Christine NJ - It is 100% true condition, If middle class people are not going to select Sen. Hillary Clinton, No one in the Democrats will have chance against Republican, we should open our eyes, and face for today’s fact. We need Clinton to protect the freedom we have. Not to overturn laws that are threatened by the republicans and not to bash gays. She will protect us. She is our only chance.

As a lifelong Deomcrat all I want for Chistmas is a candidate that can take back the White House. Although she may not be my ideal choice, I feel Hillary is the only one capable of doing it. Obama will get eaten alive by the neo-cons, Richardson can't aritculate his thoughts (which is a shame b/c if you take a hard look his ideas are the best of the bunch), and Edward's boyish good looks won't be enough to take him all the way. Face it my fellow Dems, its Hillary or another Republican…now what's it gonna be?

I think Hillary is a good politician.

Posted By Moose1648, anchorage, alaska : December 6, 2007 12:53 pm

Moose, that is her biggest flaw!

Adding Oprah Windbag doesn't help him in the least, since he can't be sure if folks are for him or for her.

Posted By Independent in IA : December 6, 2007 1:58 pm

There's not a major candidate out ther that doesn't have some sort of celebrity endorsement, be it Babs Streisand (Clinton), Chuck Norris (Huckabee), Curt Schilling, (Romney). Why is everyone making such a fuss about Oprah's choice. People try to say it's race-based, that's a load of crap, she never supported Keyes, Jackson or Sharpton. She's doing it because she believes in what the man stands for, period. She has no ulterior motive, she doesn't want a cabinet position.
The fact is she is an intelligent, caring, informed, concerned person and a lot of people respect what she does and what she says. Frankly of all the celeb endorsements, this one will probably carry more weight than all the others combined. Perhaps that's what has Obama-haters worried, she is in a position to actually steal a lot of Hillary's voters.

Marquis, Chicago IL

Your assumption that the only reason Edwards is still "viable" is because he is a white male is ludicrous. Who are you to speak for Edwards' supporters? Your logic is a bit frightening. It almost sounds as if you are insinuating if you support Edwards you are a racist. And, quite frankly, what is the problem with reinventing one's self? Most people grow older and wiser, and we often see their views change. We are in trouble when people do not change and remain stubborn regardless of the havoc they wreak…current president being a perfect example. I am an African American female who will be voting for John Edwards.

LA Times/Bloomberg 11/30 - 12/03

Giuliani vs. Clinton
1245 RV 42% 46% Clinton +4%

Giuliani vs. Obama
1245 RV 39% 44% Obama +5%

Obama does as well against Giuliani as Clinton does.

Romney vs. Clinton

1245 RV 39% 47% Clinton +8%

Romney vs. Obama
1245 RV 33% 45% Obama +12%

Obama does as well as Clinton vs. Romney.

Clinton is NOT more electable than Obama.

Poll-schmoll…..Osama Obama doesn't stand a chance and he knows it. He looks like a kid who is absolutely positive he's gonna get smacked for asking "Please, may I have some more?"

Adding Oprah Windbag doesn't help him in the least, since he can't be sure if folks are for him or for her.

I find it incredible how hilltop supportes love to say Obama just wants to run for the presidency, even though he rejected high powered firm jobs to be a community organizer. He also wrote books containing unflattering, but truthful, aspects of his life that no consultant would dare let a candidate think about much less document in a book. Meanwhile, you can see Clinton the carpet baggers move to N.Y. as clear evidence on her power lust, and willingness to say and do anything to get it.
Hilltop's tactics are classicly Rovian - have your underlyings espouse completely spurious allegations and then fall back on plausible deniability. Her recent comments about Obama, that he has more secrets than you know, is a classic head fake. She wants you to not focus on and/or compare the polcies of the candaditates b/c any organisim with a brain stem realizes Obama's platform and foreign policy stance is principled and rational. His policies are well developed, which is why they are not reducible to sound bites like only the assanine value. Wake up people, realize hilltops playbook. You really want four more years of, "I'm not going to provide you with the information I have, but just trust me because I'm president." That's how we got into Iraq. I want transparency and accountability in government. A vote for hilltop is a vote for more of the same.

If Hillary Rodham weren't Mrs. Clinton she would not be in this race at all or in the senate either. Why can't her supporters admit that what they really want is her husband back.

Every day I read these threads, and each day I lose more and more faith in the general intellectual ability and mental well-being of the American public. Is it really that easy to manipulate the public discourse? Scroll through these comments and look at how many of them just spew the same catch-phrases that the campaigns or pundits put forth, instead of representing individual thinking and beliefs.

If we're posting on this site, then each of us has no excuse - we have every imaginable resource just a few clicks away. But instead of doing any research and digging even the slightest bit deeper than the rhetoric, the general consensus seems to be to just digest what is given to us.

And seriously - are the people posting about Obama being a muslim plant/operative/whatever actually serious, or are they just trying to illicit a response? I mean really, thats just overt racism. Its completely and utterly false, and more importantly, its the very definition of being un-American.

There is no government-mandated religion here. Thats what makes us great. You can be Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, ZOrastrian, Scientologist, or Athiest. It doesnt matter. This concept, the concept of a pluralistic society that allows for a Mosque to be on the same street as a Church which is on the same street as a Synagogue, is what separates us from that other world that you people so obviously hate and fear being "infiltrated" by. We are NOT a middle eastern theocracy.

When people call Senator Obama "Osama", "a muslim plant", or anything else like that, it is THEY who are taking our country in the direction of those countries. Judging people not based on who they are or the type of person or leader they can be, but rather based on skin tone, religion, ethnicity, or family background. That is precisely what they do in Saudi Arabia and much of the rest of the world that we look at with disdain.

In response to Moose1648 (anchorage, alaska),

Assume the republicans are backing Obama.

Could it be that they are so certain they are going to loose this time that they prefer anyone on the democratic side but Hillary? Do you wonder why so many people (democrats, republicans and independents) dislike this woman so much?

As to your line: the chance of Obama, being a black man and inexperienced, is very slim.

The point here is not that you can believe your felow americans to vote for a black candidate, but whether or not you will raise above your hypocrital racial view and vote for a black man. That is your call, dont speak for the rest of us.

If the American people put Hillary Clinton in Office come see me the next day, I've got a bridge you'll wanna buy!

It appears to me that the republicans and their media have been helping Obama.

In October, when Hillary was all time high in polls, Bush 41 said he used to think Hillary's nomination as a "give me", a for sure conclusion. But then, he forsaw polls will reverse againsf Hillary without explaining why….In my view, Bush 41 might have learned that the repiblican strategists have proposed to help Obama to beat Hillary in nomination.

The recent repeated advices to Obama by Rove appears to confirm this fact.

There is no way Obama will get nomination on his own merits - not on his experience, his qualifications, his abilities, his poltical issues, and his electability. In my view, he is simply immature.

I suspect that the republicans have helped Obama, especially in Iowa and New Hampshire, through push polls, negative TV ads & radio ads, against Hillary Clinton.

Obama is more easily beatable than Hillary in the next general election. The chance of Obama, being a black man and inexperienced, is very slim.

I think Hillary is a good politician. It will be a great loss to the democratic party if she does not get nominated because the democratic voters get fooled by Obama and the republicans, and a bigger loss to america if she does not get elected.

sisk(nevada), can you be a little creative?

we are sick of reading the same line: "Clinton seems to be the only Democratic candidate that can beat the GOP candidate".

Uh, I forgot! I am asking a hillary supporter to be creative. What an oxymoron.

Wow, some of the comments on this blog are not only ignorant of reality but just plain asinine. Many (not all) of Clinton's supporters are in denial that there is a healthy debate going on right now within the Democratic party about wanting to either go forward or go with what looks like a safe choice — Clinton. However, America is always about going forward, and always will be. Sen. Obama brings more positives to the table than Clinton as a candidate or a leader, period. To those still longing for Edwards: he is a known commodity and is a Johnny come-lately as this sudden raging populist. He was rather meek on the Senate on the issues of interest groups and ethics. Now he is trying to reinvent himself. Many in Iowa are realizing this and having none of it. The only reason that he is mentioned as still viable is b/c he is a white male and that is what we as a country have been used to. Many like to argue that Obama gets his attention b/c of his skin tone, but the reality is that he inspires and speaks to a rainbow of people. And for those who still think America represents the quaint 1950s snapshots of the suburbs, you should get used to it b/c this country is changing. We as Americans are famously ambivalent and in denial about what race does to our "objective" analysis of things. The fact of the matter is that if Obama were white this race would already be over and all you Edwards people who are using all these phony arguments like "Edwards is pure" and "Edwards is progressive" would be supporting Obama b/c Obama's record backs it up. Obama even gets the highest environmental ranking of any of the major candidates, your lovely Edwards included. So this notion that Edwards is "keeping it real" is a farce and never has been true. Sen. Clinton is at least who she is, doing whatver she thinks it takes, but Obama is where this country is going.

I am deeply concerned that if Obama is to be the Democratic Candidate, the presidency will go to the Republicans. Clinton seems to be the only Democratic candidate that can beat the GOP candidate.

I hope the Democrats consider this when we are choosing our candidate.

HILLARY IS NOT A LEADER, PERIOD.

Being in a bogus marriage to a former President does not make a person Presidential material.

This country needs a strong leader that can stand up to other world leaders.

HILLARY CAN'T EVEN ANSWER A QUESTION IN A DEBATE….how could she handle the pressure of being President?

Hey Wynter, put down your hash pipe and look at reality…the MORE people learn about HILLARY, the LESS they like her or are willing to support her.

Also, in a recent poll (not taken by CNN), Hillary loses to the top five Republican candidate that is running.

You need to get a reality check.

I am a life long democrat & I will NOT vote for Obama nothing to do with race I just do not think he is presidential I think he is a smooth talker with little to no experience & just wants to be president…

Everyone wants to make such a big deal about experience… how about Joe Biden or Chris Dodd? Both of these esteemed gentlemen put Hillary to shame when the issue of experience is examined. How is it that Hillary is often viewed as the most experienced candidate?
Do you people ever think for yourselves, or do you enjoy being spoon fed the garbage that Clinton is serving up?

It is clear to me that with the information we have now that Biden, Dodd, Obama, Edwards and Richardson all would beat any of the republicans handily except McCain.

Clinton supporters seem not to understand the significant of her negative ratings. If from the start 50% of all voters don't like you, you have a lot of work to do. She would have some problems defeating any of the republicans.

I for one will support either Hillary or Obama, whoever wins.
I'm just tired of the GOP and want a Democrat back in the White House!
If it's Hillary OK; if it's Obama OK.

Hillary Clinton will bounce back in New Hampshire and she will win the election because voters will think with a fair mind and not with the contempt right wingers would like people to think with when they vote. I think that it is crazy how the right wingers have successfully influenced Democrats to scrutinize Hillary the way some of them do. Why is it that when Hillary states a fact about Obama’s lack of experience and naïveté it is deemed attacking, but when Obama attacks Clinton he is not held to the same standards? It is amazing how people unduly hate Hillary. People who call themselves Democrats should understand what they need to do to win an election or else they just won’t win. We don’t want to punt the ball back to the reactionaries. Stop making up stuff about Hillary for the right wing sympathizers, (the Obama campaign), and the haters to use against her. That is how we got Bush. Hillary Clinton is no Bush and having the Clintons back in the White House is good for America. Hillary is in the race for the people. Obama and Edwards are in it for their egos.

The Republicans fear Hillary because they know that her policies will work. Instead of focusing on the differences in policy they choose to use demagoguery. Republicans want voters to vote with emotion and Obama is playing that same game. When it comes to politics, why should someone earning less than $200,000 per year listen to Oprah, who is rich? Oprah is a talk show host, and now all of a sudden she's a pundit? Knock it off. She doesn’t care about those of us who have to work for our livings. She just wants to feed egos. We don’t NEED Obama. A vote for Obama is a vote for the Republicans.

Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate, the most experienced candidate and she’s READY TO LEAD ON DAY ONE.

I still can't understand why Clinton and Obama are 1-2 when John Edwards is clearly the most progressive of the bunch. He should be the next democratic presidential candidate, plain and simple. Look at the facts, cold and hard, and I'd be willing to be most of you agree more with Edwards on issues than either of the front runners. Remember–Edwards was that guy who should have won over Kerry in '04 (and if he had, would have won the presidential election).

It is 100% true condition, If middle class people are not going to select Sen. Hillary Clinton, No one in the Democrats will have chance against Republican, we should open our eyes, and face for today’s fact.

I love how Clinton fans make baseless and desperate accusations about Obama. The fact of the matter is that Obama is more intelligent and more optimistic than Hillary. He is also more energetic and ready to lead.

She has more Washington experience but that doesn't maker her ready to lead. Let's be honest, if Hillary wasn't the wife of Bill Clinton she wouldn't even be Senator right now. There is nothing about her that is special.
On the other hand, Obama is a self-made man. Let's ask ourselves who has real talent and skills.

Obama '08

Can you hear echos of the Dean Scream?

Yeeeeaggghhh!

The Clinton campaign appears to be imploding. Given where we were two months ago when everyone in the media was basically handing her the nomination and complementing her perfect campaign this is a staggering turn of events. If the last couple weeks are any indication this is going to get really ugly, the Clintons will not go down easily and with all that cash on hand they will be loud about it.

Imagine what these numbers will look like after Iowa and a lot of the 2nd tier candidates drop out? Poll after poll has indicated that Obama will gain a lot more of their supporters than she will, especially if he wins in Iowa.

Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go! Fired Up! Ready to Go!

The more these polls show Hillary's lead slipping or gone, the more her campaign personally attacks Obama. I'm lovin it!

Obama '08!

Hillary…….are Hsu kidding me?

Know thine enemy, Dems: Hillary is the only thing that can rally a glum, disinterested GOP base. Obama, Edwards, Biden…whomever. All will force the Repubs to make a trickier case than "JUST STOP THE CLINTONS!" - which, unfortunately, will get the election very close. (Again. Ugh.)

OPRAMA–In the likes of media coverage for any couple of fame, the OPRAMA duo has arrived, but is this what you really want representing our country in probably the most crucial time in our Nation's history???? FAME???

Vote with your brain…not your tendency to be star-struck!

OPRAMA is the epitome of fame using politics to push an agenda that is more show-boating than anything else.

This is a dangerous combination! We need experience and groundwork and people who represent the whole of America, not the stars and their followers…Think about it…this is scary. The Dems have candidates with substance well beyond the rhetoric of a OPRAMA. There are candidates whose ideas are ignored due to the fascination naive voters seem to have with OPRAMA. Read the candidates webpages on their issues; then look at their records and educate yourselves beyond the fame.

Don't jump onto the "fame train" just because it's the popular thing to do. Educate yourselves…we are not choosing the Class President; we are choosing the PRESIDENT of the United States. OPRAMA is a mistake.

You are not going to agree with everything your candidate stands for and everything in his or her record, but he or she should have a record!

OPRAMA is not the choice for America at this time. WE NEED A LEADER WHO CAN FACE THE WORLD WITH BOTH COMPASSION AND STRENGTH-ONE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE TO DO SO FROM THE START. THINK ABOUT IT. DO NOT HAND US OVER TO OPRAMA.

This is the biggest mistake on the horizon yet! Give us to experience and strength and leave OPRAMA to Hollywood with the rest of the stars!

Vote NO for OPRAMA and yes to America

It's always refreshing to see the CNN and Clinton bashers in bloom this early in the day. Can someone get a clue? CNN is reporting on the ABC/Washington Post and Marist polls, not their own. By the way, whining is not a good character trait.

And to the Anonymous one from Michigan, you are obviously a republican complaining that Clinton is a terrible candidate for the "Dems" to back. Give us a rest will ya? You have enough crap on your primary ticket to worry about. You have Guiliani, the immigration nightmare, Romney, the flipper, McCain, the Bush League yes-man, Thompson, the Reagan-posterboy, and Huckabee, the guy that pulled a "Willie Horton" recently. The group is so full of holes they won't float come election time!

Clinton's "unelectability" is a GOP farce. She is defusing that as she speaks to people and they get to know the person whom the GOP has vilified all these years. It's up to the voters in the primary whom they want to go forward, not the GOP though. And once the GOP voters get to hear what she has to say I think her electability outlook will change greatly next year.

So if you want to talk about a candidate make sure they are in your party, anony.

Telling it like I see it,
Wynter

If the people from Massachusettes would stay in Massachusettes NH would still be a conservative state. They all moved to NH because the taxes were to high in that awful state.

Clintons they are a fine piece of work…The most corupt people to ever occupy the WH. Check it out

http://prorev.com/legacy.htm

What the HELL is taking so long for comments to get moderated??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

It's been close to 12 hours since I posted on this thread.

In the likes of media coverage for any couple of fame, the OPRAMA duo has arrived, but is this what you really want representing our country in probably the most crucial time in our Nation's history???? FAME??? Vote with your brain…not your tendency to be star-struck! OPRAMA is the epitome of fame using politics to push an agenda that is more show-boating than anything else. This is a dangerous combination! We need experience and groundwork and people who represent the whole of America, not the stars and their followers…Think about it…this is scary. As a lifelong Dem, I will vote otherwise if the OPRAMA team moves in to the whitehouse.

I am glad to see that the people of NH are waking up to the BS that Hillary is shoving down everyones throat. Like it or not, she is going to give you her health plan and you are going to pay for it. Face it, she isn't going to give you anything. Bills come from the congress and the senate. Do you think for one minute her idea will pass the congress or senate? Hell no! She has been a senator now for a few years and I have seen her act on any health bill for the American people. Why now? She will say and do anything to become president. Get out there and vote, just not for her.

Brought to you by the same people who ran the exit polls in '04. How is that J. Kerry Presidency going? Polls can be manipulated to say whatever the pollster wants. Go check out realclearpolitics.com to see how much variation there is between polls in the same state.

oh the ignorant still exist. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will do something I have never done before in my entire life and that's vote republican!! I refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton, if I do that I might as well picket to keep Bush in office for 4 more years…she's what you call a republican puppet.

It is nice to finally see some of the comments reflect reality. Obama-fans, your time is nearly up. So, get over it and support the only Democrat who has a realistic chance of winning. You are playing right into the Republican's hands — that's right, keep the Democrats caught up with the more liberal, "I will bring change", NO EXPERIENCE Obama, and this will be sure to be another GOP victory. Which, as we all know, this country can't afford.

And, as scary as this sounds, I do agree with the comment above that, not only would Republicans destroy Obama if he wins the nomination, but that many Democracts would vote for the GOP rather than Obama given the state of our country and his lack of experience.

YOu know what the best form of advertisement is? WORD OF MOUTH. I will be voting for the first time in my life and it will be for Clinton. My friends passion for this woman has made me sit up and and listen. I hold their hands as we strengthen our support for Clinton….

I predict it will be Kucinich vs. Thompson in the general election! Kucinich will win and will promptly have his new Department of Peace turn off the power to the entire U.S.

In frustration, Clinton will retire from politics and get a starring role on Grey's Anatomy. Obama will become so frustrated with the voters that he really will convert to Islam. Edwards will join the UAW and go to work for GM. Giualiani will get married again, join the police academy and, after flunking out, become a private militia member in Iraq. McCain will go on the road as an anti-Kucinich stand-up comedian with a show called "The Big Ears Express."

Way to go Clinton volunteer's!!!!!! Somebody needs to make it very well known throughout the US that Obama is afilliated with radical muslims!!!!!! Terrorists are very patient people….who is to say he was not planted here to do exactly what he is doing, infiltrating our government! Why is this never brought up at a debate? I would love to hear his take on this issue!!

Most people realize that all these polls are notoriously inaccurate and unreliable. That being said, for the last few weeks they have been portraying an obvious trend.
That is that Hillary is losing her inevitability, largely through a series of well-documented 'dirty tricks'. Plausable deniability can only go so far, you can't tell me that a control freak like Hillary doesn't know that audiences are being packed in her favor, that planted questions are out there, at both GOP and DEM debates.
For the past week it seems there has been some sort of daily attack against Obama, so far, all unfounded or unproven.
What I find so hillary-ous is that all of her supporters looking through their Clinton-colored glasses are either blind to these facts or simply in denial.

I love people who just say, "Obama will lose, guranteed." but can't make a single logical argument to back it up.

Lakitgum of NH: Tell me Hillary's experience that makes her more qualified than Obama in ageneral election match-up. Sleeping in a governor's mansion or the White house simply because of your spouse doesn't confer on one executive experience. Both Dick Cheney and George W. Bush have touted their experiences but look at where they have taken the country.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I hate entitlement when it comes to presidential leadership. We don't owe Hillary and/or Bill anything! I prefer republicanism to monarchy, which we are being being asked to opt for by crowning Hillary. I am ready to vote for any Democrat except Hillary. If she is nominated I will have to vote republican to save this Republic from dynastic rule.

Reading these comments is a great reminder of just how ignorant the average voter is. If even those posting on political tickers fail to inspire any semblance of confidence, how is one not going to be pessimistic about the entire electorate's criteria for electing the ruler of the free world?

Polls give me gas!!!

Hillary's latest trash throwing should take care of that 6 points..

These polls are media driven; it’s a shame some voters do believe in them. It’s also a shame that our great country hasn’t come up with a better way to elect a President. The one who with stands all the media scrutiny wins… Not that best qualified person which this round appears to be CLINTON. Say what you want this country was in GREAT shape under a Clinton Presidency… We are in serious trouble right now. Obama is not the one to help us immediately… come on America WISE UP! A vote for obama is a vote to sell out your great country. We can do better than him… Look past the TV entertainment of Oprah…
Vote for Clinton

LaKitgum, NH, you are right, Obama will be a puppet by Republicans in General Election, but I am sure Hillary will get the Nomination because NH voters are smart like you.
Allan, Sydney, it is true, without Hillary Democrats would not stand a chance against Republican, I will be out of Dems if Democrat fail to support Hillary Clinton, also I will vote GOP candidate instead of Obama because they are way better than Obama honestly.
Tom, FL, you may have CNN only, watch Foxnews and MSNBC, you even couldn't close your mouth.

what is this, some kind of war? Our 2-party system is not representative of the country, and we stay a 2-party system when idiots think they have to stand up to the big bad scary republicans/democrats

I wish cute Hillary maintain the lead over others throughout the primaries, especially after that mess-up in the debate "Yes, I am lying…what..nope, I am still lying" ..Obama no doubt is a good, but he sounds like a "good spokeman" not a leader "yet"..

The great political miracle is officially underway. The assumed nominees are falling flat at the right time and have been exposed as not being truly qualified for the job. It appears that the American people are looking for substance this election, not just another talking head. Move over, Hillary and Rudy. Bring on Obama and Huckabee, two genuine articles who deserve a chance to have a competitive national race against one another.

And now the fun begins…

Where in the hell do you people get off saying Clinton is the most formidible Democratic candidate in the field? This woman is a lightweight against any potential Republican nominee. Zogby polling shows her losing against every major Republican candidate, while showing Obama and Edwards comfortably beating them. And that's just for starters. Edwards and Obama would eat Giuliani alive over marital issues, especially Edwards. If Hillary even starts to open her trap about Giuliani's marital issues you'll see 'round the clock ads of Bill Clinton saying "I did not have sex with that woman. . ." and it's all over.

Her one full term in the Senate is going to pale in terms of experience to McCain's 20 years there, Huckabee's 11 years as governor, and even Romney's single gubenatorial term as it's executive experience. Edwards wouldn't fare much better, but at least Obama has time as state legislator to butress his experience.

She already has a majority negative rating. That means half the country hates her. She will absolutely galvanize opposition to her in a way no Democratic candidate possibly could. On top of that she's taking the "let's not pull it all out of Iraq just yet" approach, which will alienate anti-war activists on election day (Republicans need the evangelicals to turn out on election day, Democrats need the anti-war vote). Obama and Edwards are better liked and have more staunch anti-war stances.

This country is getting tired of "legacy presidents." It didn't work out too well with Bush. Nobody wants to have another Clinton (and a re-hashing of the issues from his years), and then in 4 to 8 years face the prospect of yet another Bush when Jeb runs. The country is eager for something new; new ideas, new faces, a fresh chace at putting the past behind us. Hillary Clinton can't bring that to the table, Obama and Edwards can.

No matter how you slice it Hillary Clinton is a terrible candidate for the Dems to back. Their best chance at winning the White House is to back anyone but this woman.

Allan, Sidney Australia
What's it to you anyway - Man way down under where the bigots still thunder!
You think Barak Obama has no chance, I suppose you want to elect another supporter of wars to line the pockets of the rich with the same old mind set that drags your country into wars with
us so you can get more of your mates
killed as well.

Same old stinking thinking persists
where intelligent analysis is lacking.

Goodaye!!!

I really do not get the whole “Clinton is the only one who can beat the republican candidates” thing?
Are you guys for real. Have you seen the republican front runners? Romney… Giuliani for crying out loud…anyone can beat these chuckle heads in a general election with ease. This is where the democratic party is stupid. They spend so much time trying to fight on Giuliani’s level. They let the far right dictate what center is. This is how they lost in 04. If democrats want the Whitehouse……. They need to be democrats, they lose when they try to be republicans.

Why has no one talked about Wyoming and I can't seem to find a poll to indicate what the feelings in that state are. They do vote right after Iowa and before NH for the republicans. I feel that Wyoming might have a significant role in this tight race for President. All I know is that Romney won a straw poll out there. I wonder if some media could get on that

Let's chill. The whole "Clinton News Network" speak is starting to sound like Republicans and their "liberal media" rants. Let it go. The world will go on just fine no matter who is elected. Clinton is a great gal and Obama is a great guy. It's too bad everyone wants blood because those two candidates might actually both be more comfortable if they knew they didn't need to tear each other apart for all of us.

500-600 people is hardly a relevant number, yet CNN uses these polls all the time.

Six points of separation?

Is Barack Obama really a Will Smith Clone? Will Hillary turn out to be Stockard Channing? Will John Guare be the new Karl Rove?

Apparently CNN is NOT the Clinton New Network, nor the Corrupt News Network as referred to by Tom Z. FL, but I see it's real nature here! IT'S THE COLUMBIA NEWS NETWORK!

I read somewhere that everybody on this planet is separated by only six other points. Six points of separation between us and everyone else on this planet. The President of the United States, a gondolier in Venice, just fill in the names. I find that extremely comforting, that we're so close, but I also find it like Chinese water torture that we're so close because you have to find the right six points to make the connection.

Get ready for more unethical behavior from the Clinton campaingn and more favors coming up for payment.

See, its Clinton supporters like LaKitgum and Allan who say things to disparage Obama, saying Clinton is the only one that can win, yet back it up with nothing but their opinion. Since I have no idea who you are or your credibility, your opinion is worthless! Therefore, you better have something to back your BS up, because right now Hillary is going down the tubes. If she loses Iowa, her candidacy is most likely over as the race is becoming too close in NH for her to have a big turn around. In 2004, the swing in NH was 20 points after Kerry won Iowa.

Obama '08

This race has to be about so much more than just getting a democrat in office. That kind of thinking causes people to compromise their beliefs and choose a candidate just because they stand the "best chance." Stupid. It undermines the whole reason we can vote for whomever we think can do the best job. Not for who can win.

Personally, I could care less which party wins the election, since there are reasonable candidates on both sides. But I care an awful lot about who gets the nominations. Hillary may be great, but she is not great simply because she can win.

"Thank Hillary" for deciding to run? I can't believe that was posted. Why? Because she is ready to go "on day one"? That is the most ridiculous and vapid slogan I have heard yet this campaign cycle. Not only does it not make sense, as if you would need to have been president or first lady in order to be "ready", but it actually encourages the dynastic narrative that the fight so hard against out of the other side of their mouths. Clinton is not inevitable, and is quickly becoming not desirable.

Go, Hillary! Just get it all together for Iowa. Then you're done!

Just a note, Both Clinton and Obama have been president exactly the same amount of time - NONE AT ALL. I don't dislike HRC but its a little ridiculous when she tauts her EXPERIENCE. My wife is a doctor, that doesn't give me any experience doing her profession.

Obama supporters need to know that Clinton is going to win no matter what you say she is. Thank Hillary for even considering to run for President because without her Democrats would not stand a chance against the Republicans.

Posted By Allan, Sydney NSW : December 5, 2007 7:38 pm

Look at the national polls. No Republican is going to win.

In response to Allan from Sydney:

First of all, Hillary is losing to each of the Republicans in head to head match ups and she has the highest negative rating of any candidate. Plus, she hasn't demonstrated her sincerity and genuineness to the American people, and she is divisive, whether it's her fault or not.

So I hope you can understand why a lot of us Democrats are skeptical about her chances.

This is getting depressing, I don't see how any of the top three democrats would have a chance next November. I will have a hard time voting for any of the three myself. I firmly believe that I could only justify it as a lesser of two evils vote. Lets be honest Edward's, and Barack's experience is just about ZERO, Hillary is probobaly more experienced, but not much, I mean if the vice pres is pretty much a ribbon cutter, what is the presidents wife? I watched every debate and I'm still waiting for her to give a direct answer to a question. Joe Biden is the answer. There is no candidate on either side that can match his foreign policy experience. Watch Joe, he is not the guy who is going to tell you what you want to hear, he's going to tell you how it is. VVVEEERRRYYY REFRESHING.

Allan are you kidding? Biden would eat the Repubs alive. W/O the drama that is Clinton vs. Obama the other candidates, that actually have something to say, would get some real press. But drama sells….

How about we stop with the Clinton News Network comments. Neither original, nor factual.

I also don't think cnn is the "Clinton News Network". If she's elected President, do you think cnn will just sit on its hands? No, I think they will put her under a microscope and believe me, there'll be plenty of shady dealings to be uncovered.

Allan of Sydney, NSW: As you're not living in the US, you may not realize what is going on here politically. I am a life-long Dem, and I have voted so in every presidential election. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY, and most true progressives feel the same (except those that are terrified of another Republican admin). Although I'm not a firm Obama supporter either, I would rather sit this election out or vote third party if HRC is the candidate. She lacks any true core progressive values, is a consummate political opportunist, and a corporate politician (like Bush) through and through. She will never win the general election if she happens to be the nominee because true progressives won't vote for her, and the Republicans will turn out in droves to oppose her. She is the ONE SURE WAY the Dems will lose the presidency again. Just wait and see…

POLLS RELEASED TODAY:

Hillary is ahead by 11 pts in New Hampshire, and by 3 pts in Iowa, per Zogby poll released today:
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1395

Hillary is also ahead by 24 pts in South Carolina, per ARG poll:
http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/scdem8-710.html

Hillary is also ahead by 24 pts Nationally, per the LA Times/Bloomberg poll:
http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2007-12/34099019.pdf

They know this Allan - but just continue on this road leaning to dead end. I know sometimes we get alittle carried away by our comments. I do not dislike Obama - I just think he is a poor candidate. Him enlisting Oprah just showed how pathetic he really is. And, for that matter her included. This is what her audience wants? Oprah isn't all what she is made out to be. Sorry Oprah - but I work - and even if I didn't you would have never been my choice.

COULD NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THE DUMMYCRATS SORRY!!! HUCKABEE ALL DA WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I beg to differ with those who say Republicans will not vote for Obama! I know a lot of them that can't wait to get the opportunity to vote for him and they absolutely cannot stand the thoughts of Hillary winning this nomination! GO OBAMA '08!!!

Hillary Supporters need to understand that she cannot win because too many Dems won't even vote for her. Thank Obama for running for Pres. to keep us from having dishonest Hill as the nominee.

Obama supporters need to know that Clinton is going to win no matter what you say she is. Thank Hillary for even considering to run for President because without her Democrats would not stand a chance against the Republicans.

Posted By Allan, Sydney NSW : December 5, 2007 7:38 pm

Allan, you have the floor, can you enlighten us with reasons why we should "thank" Hillary for rewarding us by running for President.

I have heard sheep on this site, but "thanking Hillary for running" may win the "bahhhhh award".

Take 'er down Obama! We need REAL CHANGE!

Well, there is anther LATEST poll of Zogby, relaeased at the same time as the ABC poll, shows that Hillary is ahead by 11 pts over Obama in new hampshare. Other latest polls show Hillary is AHEAD over Obama by:

Iowa (Zogby poll) - 3 pts
New Hampshire (Zogby poll) - 11 pts
South Carolina (ARG poll) - 24 pts

National poll (LA Times/Bloomberg poll) - 24 pts

Hillary 08!

Posted By a.thomas, ny,ny : December 5, 2007 5:59 pm

Obama supporters need to know that Clinton is going to win no matter what you say she is. Thank Hillary for even considering to run for President because without her Democrats would not stand a chance against the Republicans.

Some Democrats simply want to see Obama beat Clinton for the wrong reasons. But let them wait for an Obama slap by Guliani or Romney. Republican know they can get back the Whitehouse if any of the 2 candidates stood against Obama because Obama has nothing to show for experience which will be the cornerstone of Republican assault. Then Democrats will be biting their fingers after thinking the next Prez will be Democrat by hook or crook.

Tom Z… How does this article warrant that kind of comment? What is written there that promotes Clinton in any way, shape or form? It states statistics from polls that CNN didn't even perform themselves. You anti-Clintonites need to give it a rest already. I'm not saying I'm a supporter of hers but I'm fed up with the 'Clinton News Network' drivel plaguing the comment feeds around here.

Separated by single digits? May I suggest which digits?

You say that you are the best political team. If this is so, why do you mislead people about the underlying results of the polls? One person says something and everyone agrees even if what they are saying is wrong. In the ABC poll, Clinton leads in three of five categories and experience tops new direction. Please, give us the facts and not your bias.

And CNN, the Clinton News Network, continues to campaign for Hillary. Truly the Corrupt News Network.