Not sure what Huckabee is apologizing for–what he basically said was true. He could have also asked additional valid questions, such as:
Didn't the Mormon church bar Blacks from the priesthood until just 30 yrs ago?
Don't the Mormons believe that God use to be a human being, and that Mormons can also ascend to "Godhood?"
Don't Mormons believe in the Book of Mormon, which details the story of Jesus and Jews in ancient America, a story which is completely unsubstantiated by archaeology?

If Americans have concerns with Romney's religion, perhaps people should actually take a closer look at his religion to understand why.

oh excuse me then "the holy garnment". Yes, "worthy" members do.

Whoever is moderating this forum has removed a post of mine, that was up for hours, and I'd like to know if this has happened to others, or, is my free speech being restricted individually by CNN? (Hopefully, they won't remove this one, too, or we'll never know). If this was a mistake, fine, but, the post concerned basic information and questions re: religious beliefs, which is what the topic concerned. It would be interesting to know the actual "problem". I've found that many folks, including moderators, have the incorrect idea that their personal choice to believe in the supernatural, somehow is sacred, and not to be questioned by those who believe otherwise. Is there any rational reason to show extraordinary respect for someone's choice to believe something or other? Either folks don't remember, or, never knew, that the Constitution has no interest in endorsing someone's choice of an unseen spirit to beleive in. It is about personal freedom, and has nothing to do with religion, other than as it clearly states, that religion will NOT be used as a test for public office, or that the government will NOT establish a religion. That seems pretty clear, doesn't it? God is not mentioned in the Constitution at all, and, it was not a mistake. Our forefathers understood much better than our current crop, why it is important to remove religion from government functions. It would be refreshing if (mostly) Judeo-Christian folks who are determined to have their personal choice of godfigure elevated to number one, by law, actually read and understand the document. They might get the clue that it doesn't matter one whit what you believe about how we got here. Folks have been believing in godfigures of one kind or another for eons. That's fine. My problem is when it melds with government. History tells us that usually means a loss of freedom. Making a personal choice to believe in a godfigure does not afford one special treatment. Especially in a Free society,like the USA, and, one need only look to the MidEast to see mindless Theocracy in action. This whole thread is an argument over which view of unverifiable events, by an unseen entity, is, or, is not, correct. It doesn't matter, since it is about "faith", not fact, and both are arguing about unseen entities that may or may not exist. If anything I assert above is factually untrue, please note it. It would truly be incredible if my post was taken down for offending someone's personal "idea" of a creator, and my choice to question that "idea", since it has been thrust into the public forum. Merry Christmas, moderators. Tell me it ain't so.

My religion is, of course, better than anybody else's. That's why we don't need a pastor in the White House. It will spell trouble for our freedom of religion or no religion.

Separation of church and state is one of the foundations of this country.

It comes from an aprocryphacal text that Joe Smith in his wisdom retruned to the Bible after the religion was hijack at Nicea. They removed the book of Enoch in thier wisdom as well. If you are passionate about being informed read teh Inspired text of the Bible.

It deals with the rebellion of Satan and the casting out of heaven, why has modern religion not address the fall?

None of our religions can claim a majority of people as believers. Christianity is the belief of about a third of the human race. Islam is the belief of about 20%. Secularism (or no religion) comes in third with 17%, narrowly beating out the Hindus with 14%. See http://www.liberalandproudofit.com/html/the_religion_problem.html

So, no matter what your religion is, you believe that most of the human race is lost in error. That is to say, no matter what religion you choose, at least two-thirds of the human race believes that you are an infidel, a heretic, a teacher of false doctrines, and a worshiper of false gods. Even Christians worship many gods. Each Christian denomination worships a different god, but the confusion comes from the fact that they are all named God. However, the various Christian Gods are very different in their personalities, teachings, and behaviors. The God of the Pope is not the same as the God of Pat Robertson. The gay-hating God of some Episcopalians is not the same fellow as the gay-loving God of other Episcopalians. The only thing they all have in common is that they all believe themselves to be the only ones who are right. All the others are wrong.

We are NEVER going to agree on a theology. Give it up. Religion has no place in politics.

Why did he bring it up to start with?
I have heard so many times, the two things you don't talk about is politics and religion (then the came the 'ticker'!) Then the politician attacks the other on his religious beliefs, something you just don't do to anyone.
I happen to know some people of the Morman religion, and they are fine people, one is a very high ranking officer in our Military, so I don't care what Huckabee thinks of Romney or anyone else of that religion.
I knew this was going to be a mudslinging campaign, but I had no idea it was going to go this low.
The only man I see so far not slinging any mud, is Mr. John McCain.
That alone singles him out in this election.

Kristy Sanborn, Buckhorn, Mo.

Well, hey come on guys! Us mormons (LDS) aren't bad. We have different beliefs is all. We don't wear "magic underwear" we haven't been polygamous in 200 or so years. We're not racist, you don't have to go on a mission, JS did not have 23-33 wives, he had one and he died as a martyr. Moms can see their children get married, but can't go in the temple to see them get sealed. SO what? That's what we believe! And mormonism is in no way, a cult. What is it about us that makes us seem creepy? We're Christian, just like all the others. Christian is referred to believing in Christ which we do! We believe families are important because they are! Look at how your family affected you! They taught you, raised you, they were there for you! Mormon or not, we believe every family is of equal importance, we love everyone just as we do ourselves, and we don't harbor hate either, we're just good people, who are being judged poorly! Unwed mothers are encouraged to give their children up for adoption if it's just too difficult for them to take care of them! It makes me mad to be called something I'm not. I get judged for being a normal, good person, when if you saw me down the street, I would look like everyone else! We as mormons don't judge you, so then why do you judge us? You talk about religious freedom, and here you are persecuting us! That's why we came to Utah! Because no one would accept us, just because they didn't get the whole story!

Mitt Romney will make a great president I believe! He won't push religion on anyone, " Let man worship how, when, or where he may " That's what we go by! And any president might try to push us into a relgion, but that's why we can impeach them!

Go here to learn more!

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

The most basic question should be; are we all brothers & sisters of a loving Heavenly Father (aka God)? In the Mormon faith that answer is YES! Where most Christian sects take issue is that Mormons believe God (Heavenly Father) and Jesus are NOT the same person. If everyone that has ever lived or will live on this earth is a spirit child of God that would include Jesus and Lucifer. They believe that Jesus is the ONLY Begotten Son of God, the only perfect man that has walked or will ever walk on this earth. They worship him as the Savior of the world, the Redeemer of ALL mankind. Whether Mormons are a cult is really a matter of a person’s definition of the word “cult”. Dictionary.com defines a CULT as; #4. "A group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc." It should be noted that those that followed Jesus when he walked the earth would also have been considered a cult in there day.

DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY CARE WHERE EITHER OF THE CANDIDATES STAND ON ANY OF THE ISSUES OF RELEVANCE?

ARE YOU ALL SO EASILY DISTRACTED?

WHAT ARE THEIR RECORDS AND VIEWS ON:
TAXES
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
EDUCATION
THE WAR
CREATING NEW JOBS FOR AMERICANS
FAIR TRADE ETC.

We are not here to bicker over relegions. Holy Crap! Have you all forgotten that it is an election year and we are looking for a man who is qualified to lead the country. If any of you are honestly so caught up the idea that Mormonism or being a Baptist is actually going to affect the candidates abilities for the better or the worse you are seriously deluded and I would like to suggest therapy and possinly some medication.

I think we're missing the real issue. If he is elected president, what kind of problems would his loose tongue and insensitivity to other religions and cultures get this country into? Isn't it a given that our next leader should at least have a clue when it comes to respect for other cultures and religions?

"Can a real LDS member please explain what magic underwear is or if it even is a real thing in LDS. And also please explain Jesus and Kolob? Is that a real thing or are people just trying to make LDS look weird?
Posted By Chris NY,NY : December 12, 2007 2:42 pm"
Chris and any other truly interested person:
The truth is you will not find this answer on CNN.com (or any other website, for that matter). Let's face it, those writing comments on this topic are not a random population sample: you have a bi-modal sample of LDS members defending their tenets (myself included) and those who wish to disparage those same beliefs. The fact is, those LDS members who can answer your specific questions will not do so in a public forum. Those who ridicule LDS beliefs will do so in public, but they tend to either (1) not be LDS and have contorted, second-hand knowledge of LDS beliefs, or (2) former LDS who have a vested incentive in demonizing their former beliefs (basic psychology). My point is recognize the biases of those who answer your questions in public, especially those who point you to YouTube videos. If you really want to understand LDS theology, ask your local LDS friends or visit http://www.mormon.org.

KEYES CLEARLY DOES not HAVE THE KEYS TO EITHER THE THE white house OR THE NEAREST REST ROOM.
PERHAPS HE LIKES THE IDEA OF BEING ON TV BUT I THOUGHT THAT FRED THOMPSON WOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BEING IN THE MAKE-UP CHAIR.

Jayson in Beale I can appreciate why you and other Mormons would get sick of how your religion is preceived by others.

I'm not making a judgement call regarding Huckabee's private opinion regarding Mormonism or any other religion. I'm only addressing the question he was asked in the context of the interview.

I am not a religious person in any regard. Having said that, I do not make judgements regarding those who choose to put faith in a belief system, regardless of religion. I find the entire "I'm a Christian and you're not" discussion disingenuous anyway. I've seen and heard too many religious leaders of many faiths make comments that fly in the face of their most basic religious rules.

To that end I judge the candidates on their actions. I don't care what faith they are. Huckabee is a solid man who makes no excuses and does not pander for votes, which is not the case with other candidates. I find this particularly refreshing.

I like Ron Paul for the same reason. I just wish he were a better speaker.

Steve said: "The Know-Nothings as a political movement died in the mid-1800s."

You wish, Steve (and so do I). They just changed their name to Republicans.

Dani said: "Besides, what we need to be asking Huck – the "Christian" candidate about is his last few days in the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas. Why did he feel the need to use state funds to destroy (and by destroy I mean physically smash) the hard drives of several state-owned computers on his way out? And why did he deplete the state's Emergency Fund on non-emergencies on his way out of office, leaving the next governor with no money to help the several Arkansas towns hit by tornadoes shortly after the change in governorship? These are just a couple of questions that might be more appropriate for a potential presidential candidate. His 10 years as governor ought to provide anyone w/ many more. CNN (and every other news agency) needs to get somebody in Arkansas to start looking into these and other issues."

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Also, let's look into why he and his wife registered for "wedding" gifts, 30 years after their wedding, for tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods that they expected people to buy for them to furnish their next home (but I'm REALLY curious as to what was on those hard drives!).

Lastly, let's ask Huckabee, who wants credit for being a Christian leader but not the hard questions that might go with it, why he claims most of the sermons he gave as a preacher were destroyed and the press has no right to see those that "remain." He delivered them to thousands of people at a time, but Americans have no right to see what's in them now???

I finally was able to put into words why Huck repulses me.

He is running his campaign on the dynamics of religious competition. He is attempting to run it as a religion popularity contest. And these are his credentials. I’m the same religion as you, so vote for me. I’m a Bigot just like you. I smear other people’s religions and creeds. I am the elite Christian, I have exclusive rights to Jesus, I decide who is Christian and who is not.

Never mind immigration, never mind being tough on crime, never mind I’m into nanny-state.

The tradition and spirit of the KKK in the South still lingers folks, just a different target, but it is always someone.

Huckabee’s surge will not endure, he runs on a repulsive, pompous platform.

By the way: Evangelicals believe that Huckabee and Adolf Hitler are brothers.

This is so funny, its like a guy that believes Superman is real arguing against a guy that thinks Spiderman is real. If you believe in invisible superhumans like santa and jesus, with no evidence for either, how can you be trusted with a nuclear arsenal ? there was no evidence for WMD in iraq either.

When LDS Members go through the temple for the first time they are given garments to be worn as underwear, the G's are to be next to the skin (worn under the bra). They are to remind you to be modest (as they go down to the knees and off the shoulder, They have to be bought through the church (hmmm) and can only be taken off for the 4 s' (swimming, sex, shower, and sometimes sports. The G's have symbols on it to remind members of covenants or "promises" they have made to god. They are suppose to protect them from physical harm and from christs brother lucifer. If you want more info look on youtube type in ormon underwear. Kolob is also doctrine, again go to youtube and type in "mormon cartoon".

Read the Bible; find out for yourself.

I do not think that the comment was attacking the Mormon religion. What he said is right we do belive that we are all spirit children and brothers and sisters therfore meaning Christ and Saan are brothers. It was why he said it, to point out a belief he thought people would think odd.

It is common knowladge that southern baptists belive Mormons are a cult and therefor he as a priest would have taught a congregation that very fact. why doesn't someone ask him that.

Huckabee proclaims to be a God fearing man and a minister makes me wonder what God does he serve and I like to hear him explain his religion. However, I don't think Mitt Romney would stoop that low to ask Huckabee to explain his religion after that comment. Huckabee is a snake oil salesman.

Hey Jason, My dad was stationed at Beale AFB 45 years ago! Read Truth Seekers comment and let me know what ya think.

how in the world is that an attack on romneys religion? what is untrue about the statement? thats why romney wont win – he is ashamed of his mormonism because its a strange belief compared to christianity. if he is offended, its because the rest of america can see that. hope is gets throttled in these primaries.

"Mike huckabee is right and mitt romney should get over it. The mormons say Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. well if you read the king James bible Lucifer became the devil when kicked out of heaven."

Do any of you christian robots ever wonder why your god was so weak, he created angels that ended up turning against him, one becoming Lucifer?

This is supposedly a omnipotent deity?

Here's why bashing Huckabee and his religion isn't bashing everyone's: Huckabee doesn't believe in evolution or global warming. He's scientifically challenged. The U.S. does NOT need another religiously-deluded extremist like President George "God told me to kill innocent Iraqi civilians" Bush.

Randy S. Lawton, OK:

You said: "By what means do you determine the above fact. Atheism absolutely is not a religion. Who do they pray to or worship? What is the dogma? What is the doctrine? Where do they congregate? Whan an idiot!"

Einstien, first of all I didn't say it was a fact, but rather a theory or a statistical hypothesis. Further, according to Dictionary.com the definition of religion is "something one believes in and follows devotedly". I bet you didn't even know that the word "religion" may mean something other than the "religion as belief in God".

Atheists believe NOTHING – this is their belief, their dogma. What is their doctrine? Let's again refer to Dictionary.com and check what is the definition of "atheism". Shall we? Atheism – the doctrine that there is no God or gods; denial that there is a God; disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Happy now, Einstien?

What do you expect from a hypocrite.

Ron Paul 2008.

I think all American Politians should decalre that this country was built on Judea / Christen values and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. Eastern Countries have no problem basing thier laws on thier Prominate religion, why should we?

When our fore-fathers dictated separation of church and state, they were trying to ensure that religious influance would not dominate our government by the narrow views of clerics or others who would not be able to make decisions on indiviual freedoms regardless of personal beliefs without consulting a "Higher Authority" as was the case in England, Spain and France.

It was not however meant to take "GOD" out of our lives or the values that we believe that come from "GOD". There will come a time when this country will have to decide on which of the World's religions our values hold closest to. At that time we will have to realize that it is because of our belief in The Christen "GOD" that we are tolerant of all others and without that belief we or any other nation can not truly be a melting pot.

Let me just say this, I do not understand why Mitt Romney's roll in the Mormon church is such a big deal. I do, understand why comments are being made. Now, I don't thing that Mr. Huckabee was trying to be hateful with the comment, but now is the most important time to seperate religion and the state. I think the main reason why Romney is not speaking up on the Mormon faith is because his faith should not over shadow the reason he is running and that is for a better America. Closing I should also say that I have not decided who is better for our country but someone's religion will not impact my decision!

I'm a Mormon and the doctrinal statement is true and I'm not shying away from it. This article is a choppy piece that I don't fully trust. In reality, I don't believe Huckabee is trying to attack the Mormon religion but I also don't believe he doesn't know whether Mormons are a cult or not. That was a political line because most Bible schools southern baptists directly teach about the "Mormon Cult." For Romney, he's right on about religion and Huckabee agrees so he has nothing to add.

In the end, Huckabbe is the first Republican candidate I would invite over for dinner but Romney is the first person I would want as my president.

Commenters on this page are simply using this quote (which really isn't a big deal) as a platform to stand on and bash religion. If you have something to say that is meaningful and relevant than say it, but don't call Christians "close-minded" when all you can do is bash them for their religious beliefs or call them imaginary.

That seems a little close-minded to me.

David,
You spend your whole life being told by supposed Christians that you aren't a Christian because all the major Christians leaders said so and see if you don't get sick of all the crap that people can come up in regards to your faith. Bottom line is don't criticize members of a faith if you haven't walked a mile in their shoes.

Anyways as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I could care less what any leader of any other church says about my church. The only people capable of telling me if I am a Christain would be God the Father and Jesus Christ. I absolutely get a kick out of all these people who think they have the right to judge whether or not I am a Christian. But that is human nature for yah, trying to fill in for God in judging.

I have to chuckle after reading most of these posts. Some posters seem to think Huckabee is devisive and a bigot. Others think Huckabee's question is contrived to cause controversy. And yet others even ask why Huckabee would even discuss someone elses religion to begin with.

What seems the most glaring omission by most posters is that the upcoming article is dripping with different religious topics ranging from the "Left Behind" books, Jerry Falwell, and the Book of Proverbs.

It was the interviewer who brought up the subject of Mormonism. It was not Huckabee. If anyone was being controversial it would be the interviewer. Concidering the religious overtone of the article, the question Huckabee asked meshed very well. Huckabee stated he doesn't know much about Mormons and then asked a simple question, "don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

I really like how some of the posters here seem to have some special crystal ball that lets them read the mind of Mike Huckabee and know beyond a doubt that he was being devisive. It might be that Mike was simply curious and asked a question.

It doesn't surprise me that Mitt jumped on the question and spun it to come across as an attack when in fact there was no attack. How can you attack something by asking a valid question, one that is actually true? Can you attack a religion with the truth?

After Huckabee's question was asked the press did quote an answer they received by talking to a Mormon church representative. She pointed out that this is frequently used to vilify the church not to clarify the doctorines. That's why it's seen as an attack even though it's essentially true.

I don't buy Huckabee's argument that it was taken out of context. Why ask a question at all when you're being interviewed? I think he really was trying to stir something up. Even though it's just plain stupid. So, Mormons don't believe in the Trinity. Neither do Jews! So, would that mean he wouldn't vote for someone who's Jewish?

Mike huckabee is right and mitt romney should get over it. The mormons say Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. well if you read the king James bible Lucifer became the devil when kicked out of heaven.

First of all, anyone that would like to comment on this blog SHOULD READ COMMENTS posted by Erik, Austin TX – very insightful comment. Certain scriptures in the Bible cannot be taken literally, therefore, require intelligent interpretation like Erik's. Mr. Huckabee should be the first one to point this out since he is a theologian.

Second, please stop generalizing that all "Christians are bigoted, small-minded, and wrong". As a Christian, I am offended by this.

As a Mormon, let me explain our belief. We believe that we were all created by Heavenly Father, Including Christ and Lucifer. So we are all the sons and daughters of God and are brothers and sisters.

But Mormons still get miffed when Evangelicals take this doctrine, look at one small piece of it and then claim that a principle doctrine of Mormonism is that Christ and Satan are brothers. Sure that can be inferred from other doctrines but its not like we go around in Church referring to Christ as "Satan's Brother" or vice-versa.

It also implies that we think they're equal or somehow similar. This is not the case at all. As someone else said its equivalent to saying Ghandi and Hitler are spirit brothers. We believe they are, but that doesn't mean anything other than the technical fact that they were both created by God.

If our country is founded on the basis that there is to be an established freedom of expression and religion, and there is to be a distinct separation of church and state, then my question is this: Why would it matter what Mr.Romney believes if it has nothing to do with how he will run the country if elected president?

Steve, Landing, NJ:

You said: "Huckabee would still probably make a better president than Romney."

You probably know NOTHING about Romney and don't care to know anything. Very sad.

After reading all these comments I can understand now how a guy like George Bush got elected president. Only in America.

He was asking a question! The fact is, I've read books written by former Mormons and they do believe that Satan and Jesus were brothers, among a lot of other things the average person doesn't know. Why not ask Mitt Romney that question and see what he says? He won't answer it, he'll just say it is attacking his religion. That's because it IS what they believe.

The concerns over whether Mitt Romney can lead the nation without imposing his Mormon faith on US policy may still be a question for some people, but it is clear there is no question at all that Huckabee will indeed impose his religous beliefs and be critical of other religion. Has Romney critized anyone's beliefs? Has Hucakabee?

bad move for huckabee!! i defiantly think he's going to lose a lot of votes for this one. i'm an ex-mormon myself and i have nothing but love for the religion.

Mormon's aren't a cult. This is so dumb, get over it. My best friend is mormon and is a gret person. Focus on the type of person, not on the religion.

"Gov. Huckabee has said consistently that he believes this campaign should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation, and not focus on questions of religious belief,"

A baldface lie. Mr. "I'm the Christian candidate" envisions a theocracy for the U.S. The idiot doesn't even believe in evolution, which means he's anti-science.

The Know-Nothings as a political movement died in the mid-1800s.

Can a real LDS member please explain what magic underwear is or if it even is a real thing in LDS. And also please explain Jesus and Kolob? Is that a real thing or are people just trying to make LDS look weird?

I think it's funny that people get "offended" when their religon is "attacked". Mormons do believe that Jesus is the brother of Satan, it says so right in their scripture, so why do they cower when people bring up the subject? If they really believe it to be the truth, then why should they be ashamed of it? And if they are ashamed of it, then why do they continue believing in Mormonism? Anyone who deliberalty chooses to follow something they believe is a lie is, well…, an idiot.

I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, and I am certianly not ashamed to have that belief. If I was running for President I wouldn't side-step the issue, and would certianly take the time to answer any criticism about my beliefs. I would also not view and anti-Christian comment as offensive, but rather as an opportunity.

If you find it offensive when someone criticizes your beliefs, then you probably don't actually believe it is the truth. At least if Romney would stand-up for what he believes he could get some points for consistency, but if he hides at the first sign of criticism, how could anyone justify voting for someone like that?

BlueGoose: Yes, you are right Christians do not say hateful things. Is it putting out there the truth about any religion hateful? Are the Mormons liable for what they believe? I don't think that by saying it is hateful speech.

I hope the Republican Evangelical Jesus Wars keep them out of the White House.

I don't understand how evangelical Christians, who believe that God created the earth in 6 days, that a virgin conceived and gave birth, and that a man who was dead 3 days rose from the grave, have any room to criticize whatever it is Romney and Mormons believe. Notice that the Dems aren't saying anything about Huckabee because they want him to be the Republican candidate. Why? Because he'll get slaughtered in the general election.

not a very Christian attitude. Too bad, I had hopes for Mr. Huckabee before now.

Huckabee was correct. I was raised mormon. I know they are changing their tune a lot these days but as a kid in the 50's and 60's….that's exactly what mormon doctrine taught… Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. I believe that's bull but that's what they taught….100%.

After Huckabee's question was asked the press did get an answer by talking to a Mormon church representative. She pointed out that this is frequently used to vilify the church not to clarify the doctorines. That's why it's seen as an attack even though it's essentially true.

I don't buy Huckabee's argument that it was taken out of context. Why ask a question at all when you're being interviewed? I think he really was trying to stir something up. Even though it's just plain stupid. So, Mormons don't believe in the Trinity. Neither do Jews! So, should evangelicals not for a Jew either?

I guess they wouldn't admit that even if it were true.

Hey I got an idea. Lets hang the guy for asking such a question, or setup a firing squad. Seriously give the guy a dam break. If a major component of your political platform is religion then you should be asked or be able to answer any questions regarding it. What’s bigoted about asking a question. Last I checked the right to free speech still exists (that's why we're all sitting here reading each others' slanted views about god or life in general)

Sure religion is detrimental to this country and continues to be (my opinion) so let them drown in their own ignorance. statements like he’s bigoted or picking cotton in arkansas IS ignorant. Inflammatory comments only make you look like the fool.

please debate such a topic intellectually next time.

I wondering who Mutt is going too bash next. Don't you think he should just get his own show and tell everyone what you really think?? You're spending alot of money and the sad thing is, that you don't stand a chance of being voted in for president. MY name is Josh and i approve this ad.

I think the department of Homeland Security would be very interested in this blog post.

HR 1955…Home Grown Terrorism & Extremism…Just remember not to tell anyone after the CIA raids your houses with non-judicial warrents and seizes your computer for promoting extremism in the US. If you tell your spouse or lawyer its a felony punishable by 5 years in prison…

And remember kids theocracy is a great system, been in practice for thousands of years, and as long as you believe what they tell you to believe you will have a great life of servitude..

Coming from a Mormon perspective, yes Mike Huckabee's comment is technically true. Jesus Christ and Lucifer are spiritual brothers, as all mankind are spiritual siblings. However, put his comment in the right context and you can see it was thrown out to cause a controversy. Does it have any other relevance to the debate other than to cause a theological debate? I think not.

I'm continually perplexed as to why this is such an issue. Is it that important to evaluate specific points of religious doctrine when considering who to vote for in a Presidential debate? I'm a Mormon and I have many friends of differnt faiths and I rarely have such specific doctrinal discussions as we seem to keep having with Mitt Romney. Does the majority of the American People care about such specifics of religion or is it more important to share similar values and priorities in helping build a stronger and better America. Come on people, get over the stereotype and focus on relevance.

FYI, I would not vote for any candidate simply based upon religion. I'm still undecided. Let's get educated and make the best decision for our country.

If anyone should be attacked over all this, it should be the reporter who asked the question! The NY public library, or any library anywhere, has plenty of material on the issue if he really wanted to know anything about the LDS. It's obvious the reporter is only looking for muck to throw around, as if NYC doesn't already have enough garbage. Most people well-versed in the Christian faith would probably either give the same response, or be more direct in what the do know about the Mormon church. I could suggest that if that reporter were really serious about who the bibilical Jesus is, he should get on his knees and ask God Himself.

A degree in theology is misleading. Huckabee's theological degree would be limited to the Baptist view and not cover other Christian sects least of all Mormonism It would cover no other religions. Hucakbee in all likelihood knew the answer, but he was more interested in the question. It frieghtens people. A theology that believes that Jesus and Lucifer where "spirit" brothers, to use the term mostly commonly used here, does not equate to Satan worship. But the general public doesn't know that. That is exactly what the good ol' Baptist minister is counting on.

If you want to know the truth about it, ask a Mormon. After reading some comments about how Romney was a follower of polygamist Jeff Warren, let me say that he–and ALL LDS Mormons–are NOT of the same sect as Warren. Warren is an FLDS Mormon, whereas Mitt, myself, and many others, are LDS Mormon. There is a VAST amount of differences between the two.

Also, yes, we believe that Jesus and Lucifer are spiritual brothers, and that they and we are all sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father. However, Lucifer rebelled against God and became a "fallen angel," or in other words, the devil. What Huckabee said is true, but he didn't state the complete truth of the doctrine because he was trying to slander our faith and imply that Jesus is a devil, WHICH HE IS NOT, just so that he could take votes away from Mitt Romney. Targeting someone's personal faith in an effort to get votes is pretty low.

Mutt, opps i mean Mitt dosen't stand a chance. You should pack it up.

Huckabee is a Bigot.

There is no way he should be the President of the United States.

If America votes for Huckabee, I am not participating in the general election. America can have the punishment they deserve of getting Hillary for president if they support a Bigot during the GOP primary

I find it entertaining how many people come on here with the agenda of not discussing a candidate's credibility, but rather what they heard once about the "Mormons."
If you have questions visit mormons.com. Every question you have can be answered. I promise they have every ounce of LDS doctirne on record. There, now no excuses on stating ignorant untruths.

To set the record straight, yes LDS people believe that Satan was Christ's and our spiritual brother. After all, we are all children of God. LDS doctrine teaches that Lucifer decided to defy God and was therefore cast-out.

Huckabee's question was legitimate and the content was non-offensive. The only aspect of his decleration that is diheartening would be his reason for asking the question. If it was because he was honestly wondering? No harm no foul. If he was trying to belittle someone's faith? I would consider that downright shady.

What's so hard to beleive about Jesus and Satan being brothers? Since neither was born of a woman (don't give me that Mary crap, I'm talking about before any supposed earthly incarnation) and both were 'created' by God they're not really brothers in the strict familial sense.
Frankly, that notion makes every bit as much sense as anything else dealing with the Creation myth, regardless of denomination.
The only scary part is how such beliefs will affect the individual's judgment, and Huckabee scares me.

I've studied the beliefs of the Mormon faith and what Rep. Huckabee said is nothing but the truth. However, this is one of many secret facts Mormons do not want placed out in the public arena. You have to first be apart of the Mormon faith prior to acquiring this knowledge. But it is a fact the Mormonism is a cult, primarily for the fact that they deny and/or reject traditional Christian doctrine, Jesus Christ and the Trinity. Therefore, this makes Mormonism unorthodox and that is defined as a cult.

What's the problem? What Huck said is precisely what Mormons believe, that Satan and Jesus are brothers, both sons of one of their gods. It may sound batty, but it is what they believe, so it's factual. It's something the republican values voter cares about so it's relevant in the modern republican party.

If Mitt Romey believes something different and is going to abandon Mormanism just so he could be President, it would not be his first flip-flop.

I can't belive that CNN did not fully report the story by providing CONTEXT, and indicating that what Huckabee said about Romney's Morman religion is factually true. Whether you think it's relevant or not is another story but to millions of republican evangelicals, this is crucial information.

The comment by huckabee is true
plus
Mormons beliefs are:

They believe in Gods ( yes plural)

They believe if you are a good mormon when you die you become a god and get your own planet.

They believe the God of earth was a regular man on another planet and he resides near a star called KOLOB

They have special handshakes and secret names so they can find each other after they die.

They wear special secret underwear with secret religious symbols sewn into them that protect them from bullets and other bad things.

All of the following and more are FACTS and can be researched in the 3 books they have the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Book of the Law of the Lord.

The Bible is the forth book they use and when Mormon beliefs don't agree with the Bible they say that passage was interpreted wrong.

P.S. They say that Jesus had multiple wives when he was on earth.

I am a Mormon. God created the spirit of both Satan and Jesus. He did not create the evil that Satan became. Satan's own pride made him evil. He chose. That is the thing that is fundamental to our doctrine–we always have a choice. God didn't create evil, pride did. I get tired of people like Huckabee, who use sound-bites that sound horrendous, without explaining the truth behind them.

Vote for the men based on who they are…Huckabee is a big spender and a bigot. Romney is a man who is very young politically but has led a good life. Ron Paul is an extremist. Rudy is a proven leader with some major personal faults. None of them are perfect. In my opinion, Huckabee is the worst.

MORMONS= UTAH….stay there It's a dead belief anyway.

It's sad how americans can be so idiotic. The majority of americans, including some republicans dislike our current president, but yet a carbon copy of Bush is surging in the polls. Wake up american!! Do you want another 4 to 8 years of an egotistical self-centered bigot running the country.

Let the Huckster/MittWit Holy Wars happen. They'll just wipe each other out and we'll be rid of both of those unworthy neocon twerps.

Meanwhile, have some tea on Dec 16 and join us at Dr. Paul's Tea Party. Much more fun there with a candidate who walks the walk instead of just talking the talk!

RP08!

Doesn't Huckabee believe that Jesus is his own father?

Keep in mind as I say this that I think all religions are completely erroneous and based on misplaced faith.

Having said that, Mormonism is a pretty glaring example. Ignoring, as many Christians do, that what today is considered the "canonical" Bible was winnowed down from hundreds of sacred texts with various points of view at the discretion of people within the Church is one thing. Ignoring that the book of Mormon was dictated by a man with a hat on his face is another.

Having said *that*, Huckabee was wrong to make this comment. The fact is, while the Mormon faith believes that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, this is in the context of their *souls*–that is to say, all souls spring from the Holy Father, and so all people are spiritually brothers. His phraseology was either calculated to cast a negative light on the Mormon faith among those who don't know much about it, or a display of ignorance that he should've kept to himself.

And *that* being said, Huckabee would still probably make a better president than Romney. But, then, I'm almost certainly voting Dem, so whatever.

who cares?

Huckabee did not "disparage" the Mormon faith. He asked a question, and as many others here have pointed out, the Mormons DO believe that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers! God asked them each to present a plan for salvation. Jesus' plan was for humans to have free will and for the righteous to return to live with God, and Lucifer's plan was that there would be no free will, humans would have no choice to act irreverently, and so all peoples' spirits would return to Heavenly Father. Apparently, this plan was so terrible, that Lucifer and a third of the host of heaven (the spirits that backed up Lucifer's plan) were cast out of heaven and were forbidden a chance to be born into human bodies. Take it from a reformed Mormon: Mitt's religion SHOULD be an issue, and if I were running for president I would have said a lot more than what Huckabee did. At least he didn't ask something like: "Don't Mormons believe that only men can hold the priesthood and that women should be subservient to their husbands?" I'm sure that would have garnered a lot of attention, too, but alas, it's all true, true, true!

Huckabee's comment, while it is correct, is calculated to incite curiosity and disgust among those who don't understand Mormon doctrine. It clearly has the tone of making the doctrine sound ridiculous, while it really is not, with the subtle intent to further marginalize Mormonism and Romney. While it's clearly not an attack if you just look at the words, you have to weigh the effect of commenting on doctrine to a national audience.

Just asking the question if "Jesus and the devil are brothers" sounds to me like Gov. Huckabee slipped in "theologic questions during his campaign". Any candidate who "doesn't know much about it" would do well to stay away from religious issues or questions that contain implied answers.

This is ridiculous…Mormons DO believe that Satan and Jesus were originally brothers…how is makig a comment to that effect attacking someone's religion?? I'm so sick and tired of this attempt to mainstream Mormonism…it's not Christianity..people who think that it is are simply ignorant. Mormons may try to mask it as such, but even a brief exploration into Mormon theology would prove otherwise. I see nothing wrong with Huckabee's comment. It was just the truth…

Huckey, please GET OFF the religious issue. Let it go. Of course the reason you won't let it go is because getting the religious nuts to vote for you is the only way you'll get votes. Nobody silly enough to make statements like this deserves to be president. Go Romney!

Alex Mooney is trying to make something out of nothing.

Pushing things together to make a story or a heated debate that really didn't exist in the beginnning A tactic used by the press. How sad.

Mormons(members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints) do believe that Jesus and Lucifer were spirit borthers and believe that they are spirit brothers with all of you on this board.) That is the correct answer to the question, but what does it matter how each christian believes in Christ?

Baptists themselves are considered by many a protestant faith. Meaning they had a difference with another faith and broke away to begin there own faith. A difference in belief but still believing in christ.

Romney is right though, this is the USA and with that comes religous freedom, and if anyone attacks another faith that is wrong and definately shouldn't be in the election process.

This is obviously an issue for social republicans. I'm sure the Foreign Policy & Economical Republicans could care less just like the socials really should.

Whether or not his inference is true about Mormon theology, he was wrong to ask it. And I believe he calculated its effect in asking it. If he doesn't want to get into discussing other people's faiths, as he's stated, he should have stopped at "I don't know much about Mormon beliefs." But instead, he got in a sucker punch. Again, true or not, the question really serves as a means to divide candidates into "one of us" Christians and "those others". He sees Romney's faith as a weak spot to be exploited. Would Huckabee go on the record about a Catholic opponent with "I don't know much about Catholicism – do they really believe the bread and wine literally changes to the body and blood of Jesus?" I doubt it, since Catholicism isn't on the fringe. But because the LDS church is not in the mainstream of American Christianity, he deems it OK to draw this distinction with his question.

Face it, Mormons have strange beliefs not backed up by evidence. So do traditional Christians. Neither fact should have a role in determining our president, unless the candidate wishes to enact his religion's practices and beliefs into US law.

Huckabee's astounding bigotry toward those who don't have HIS particular view of Christianity settles it for me: he's completely off my list of possibilities as a candidate.
I honestly thought he had a better grasp of the Constitution. He obviously has a very dark side.
There should be NO religious test for ANY political candidate in this country.

What's that Shakespeare thing about too much protesting?

Yeah, we're all God's kids, if you buy the "talk," but that's the problem. Jesus is called the Son of God but he's also God, which is not what the Mormons are saying. By saying J & Lucifer are bros, people are saying that J is a created being and not eternal. That's way different from what Christians believe.

As evidenced by the wide margins of victory in Utah and other strongly Mormon precincts in Idaho, Arizona, Wyoming, and Nevada, by every Republican Presidential candidate since Reagan, Mormons are the most underappreciated group of Republicans. If this type of Mormon bashing attack continues, maybe the Mormon vote will start to swing to the Democrats. After all, Senator Harry Reid is a devote Mormon too, and was selected as the Majority leader. This is why Gov. Huckabee needs to be chastised for is bigotry by Party leaders.

Concerning the question that the good reverend asked, Mormons believe that we were all created as spirits by God- you, me, Jesus, and Lucifer. God said he wanted to have an earth created so we could come and be born with a body and then come back to live with God again. Jesus, the first spirit created (and the most holy too) was essential to the whole plan because God knew we would all sin (except Jesus) but no unclean thing can live with God. Jesus had the job of suffering for the sins of the world, dieing on the cross, and then, because He was the Son of God, He had the power to be resurrected. His suffering and grace made it possible for all to repent of their sins, be resurrected, and return to live with God. But Lucifer, one of the spirits in the “inner circle” (but not necessarily the second oldest spirit), didn’t like the idea, and wanted to take the throne of God for himself. He rebelled against God, and told anyone who would listen that he had a better idea that didn’t require Jesus to pay for our sins. This is the War in Heaven referred to in the Revelation of John, where Lucifer is called the dragon that fought with Michael. This idea was an empty promise, because nobody could return to live with God unless they learned how to have faith in Jesus, be obedient and repent of there sins. Lucifer and his followers were cast out and became the devil. God prevailed over Satan in the War in Heaven, and sent his Son, Jesus, to pave the way for us to be able to return to live with God after this life is over. What is so un-Christian about this???

The reason Catholic and Protestant theology schools (like the ones Huckabee attended) teach that Mormons are not Christian is because Mormons believe God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three separate individuals, unlike what the Creed of Nicaea teaches. A careful reading of the Bible shows the Mormon interpretation to be more in line with the scripture, yet one can find scriptural support for both ideas. So why the big argument in a presidential election??

But it's true! Mormon missionaries were here the other day and I asked them and they DO believe that Jesus and satan are brothers. It's even on their own mormon website! "…that Lucifer the son of the morning, is our elder brother and the brother of Jesus Christ…"(Documents & Covenants by Bruce McConkie, pp.163-4.

"Huckabee and Romney are both religious nuts. Just like Bush!"

Posted By Lee, Phila. : December 12, 2007 12:06 pm

Hey Lee, I disagree. I do not believe that Bush is a religeous nut, not in the way the true "believers" like Huckabee and Romney and the typical religeous-right regresso-facists are. Bush was told to merely put on that mantle to win the 2000 primaries. Since then he has kept that mantle on in order to please and garner support from our own home-grown ayatollahs, since it serves the purposes of his right-wing and war-mongering policies. If his handlers told him to, this guy would even ignore his conservative principles and believe that spending 1 trillion $ on an unnessessary war and occupation is a good idea….oh wait, that actually happened….

And now republicans must decide: (a) if they want a fake relio-nutjob or a "real" religeo-nutjob to lead them in 2008; and (b) just which ones of the [R] candidates are the "real" religeo-nutjobs. Tough decisions. Poor [R] buggars. Good luck deciding on these critically important issues for our county.

I hope the rest of us that enjoy living in the extended "age of enlightenment" will ignore this pathetic crap on the right altogether, and get on with electing [D]s to office so that some progress can be made in getting out of this [R]-made mess that we are in.

And oh, by the way, Fred, NY (12:18pm):
yes, by all means, let's blame the media because Huckabee looks like Jesus' brother. And, I'm glad you find one of our [D] candidates so attractive; but, the way you [R]'s have been going lately I'm just surprised it wasn't one of our male candiates you were focussing on!

Idiotic comments by an idiot directed toward another idiot. What's the problem, folks. None is worth the effort to get excited about. Just vote "none of the above."

I really believe that we would all be a lot better off if we voted based on the candidates position on the issues, their integrity and honesty rather than what religion they follow. The emphasis on religion in the last two presidential elections and now the current campaigning has torn our country apart and tainted our political discourse. Everyone has a right to practice what ever religion they choose and as far as I am concerned no one religion is any better or worse than the others.

Huckleberry doesn't have a chance.

Atheism is a religion, therefore, it's a cult too (according to your theory Atheist).

Posted By statistical hypothesis : December 12, 2007 12:11 pm

By what means do you determine the above fact. Atheism absolutely is not a religion. Who do they pray to or worship? What is the dogma? What is the doctrine? Where do they congregate? Whan an idiot!

I am a Mormon and they do believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers, so what's the big deal.

Posted By Tilamen, Salt Lake City, Utah : December 12, 2007 12:16 pm

You say you are a Mormon, why do you refer to them in the third person?

I guess Romney could retort with asking something along the lines of: "Doesn't Huckabee believe the earth is only 6000 years old?" or "Doesn't Huckabee disavow the mountains of evidence supporting evolution?"

I'm a supporter of neither of these men, but I believe that Huckabee would be much more inclined to let his religious views influence the way he would run this country, and that's just plain scary.

Man or womans religion does not matter due to the "absolute seperation of church and state". As spoken by John Kennedy. Another quote from the Kennedy family of leaders, "The youth of our nation are the clearest mirror of our performance." From Bobby Kennedy while running for president of our nation in 1968. Kind of inspirational to me as a former hippie.

Just the fact that so many of you keep repeating yourself that Mormons do believe that proves Romney's point. Should Huckabee point out all religous differences just because they are true? All religions believe different things. We don't need to hear about it. Huckabee knew exactly what he was doing. Ask a question that stirs up religous intolerance based on perception. Who cares if mormons believe that. It is a minor difference and irrelevant to the election.

Posted By Anonymous : December 12, 2007 1:10 pm

I am a Mormon and I see nothing wrong with Huchabee's question. It was a question and not a comment, according to the NY Times peice. He said he thinks Mormonism is a religion, that he doesn't know much about it, and then asks a question.
And, the answer to the question is yes. We believe that we are all God's children–which makes us all brothers and sisters. Everyone. Even Satan.
So…what's the big deal? Nice picture though. CNN makes him look like a grimmacing demon. Is Political news real slow today?
Move on, people. There is nothing to see here.
Posted By Jen : December 12, 2007 1:08 pm

I just thought both these comments were really good and worthy of reposting!

Seems like Huckabee needs to head back to Arkansas and start picking cotton,at least he will be able to keep his mouth shut.

Wake up folks! Sitting here with the principal literature of the Mormon Church on my desk in front of me I am surprised at how far we have diverted from critical and informed thought and discussion. Although I am a Christian, I appreciate the scholarship that has taken place in and around traditional Christianity. As a theological student it has aided tremendously in my reconciling the inner life with the traditionally held tenets of the Christian faith. Thankfully, critical scholarship has become standard in both Catholic and Protestant seminaries the world over.

While I certainly uphold an individual's right to choose their own spiritual journey I must conclude that the Mormon's have not been subject to anything like the scrutiny that traditional views on Jesus and the Bible have been. Why is this so? Otherwise, some of what I am reading here would warrant a public backlash towards Joseph Smith (Mormonism's founder) and his religion. If Mormons wish to engage with mainstream society, they need to come clean on their ideologies and their history. Somehow I hope they can reconcile their inward hope with some things that just don't add up.

Appropriate or not, Mr. Huchabee merely commented on one facet of what are a whole series of peculiarities from the mind of Joseph Smith and recorded in the Mormon scriptures. These writings speak of a salvation that is principally for men, that North American Indians descended from a boatload of Israelites who landed in Central America, they position 'dark-skinned' people as spiritually inferior, teach a 'god' who was formerly a man and say it is the destiny of Mormon males to likewise achieve that god status, etc., etc., etc.

Just as mainstream media has on numerous times presented the birth, life, death and resurrection and person of Jesus of Nazareth from an entirely non sacred and critical point of view, how about an hour or two objectively devoted to Mormonism (its beliefs and history). No religious belief should receive immunity in a free and society that separates church and State. How is it that we are held at ransom by a significant force within Islam and now Mormonism too. This is terribly reminiscent of the muzzle the church once had on our mouths and minds. Truth can only be a good thing. Perhaps a healthy dialogue of this kind could serve as a precedent for future dialogue between the majority and other growing minorities within our society.

Why concern ourselves with the relationship between two fictional characters? It's like asking whether Smurfette was Papa Smurfs daughter or mistress. We as a nation have resources that far outweigh those of any other country on the planet and have the potential for true enlightment and progress, yet we mire ourselves in a never ending "My imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend" argument.

Harvest the dew from your eyes, America.

This could be a fatal mistake for Huckabee. Although most GOP voters have no problem attacking a qacky religion, the actual attack on Mitt doesn't really help. The same effect could have been gained by simply laying back and waiting for Romney to continue his implosion.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

When did stating a fact about a religion become disparaging. I question any religion that is not open about their beliefs and the foundations of those beliefs. Open discussion about religion is always healthy unless you have something to hide.

Humanity bickering about religion is going to be our undoing. Isn't it time we all grew up and let go of old foolish myth based thinking? This is the age of reason. Faith and religion are simply quaint reminders of our past when we were unaware of the facts. Faith is over – reality has arrived. All you people of faith need to grow up.

The comment is true, but it is delivered in a mean spirited way.

I agree with Bryan of Firestone, CO…….as a Baptist minister (who are famous for bashing Mormons over and over in their church classes) Huckabee surely knows a lot of what Mormons believe….or what Baptists and other evangelical churches…SAY they believe….so surely this is a SUBTLE way of creating fear or dislike in the minds of others. WHY is that brought up in a POLITICAL venue?!?! Hypocrisy when Christian values of religious liberty mocked.
Yes, LDS do believe that as SPIRIT brothers and sisters, Satan is OUR spirit brother just as Jesus Christ is. No, LDS do not believe that "the Only Begotten of the Father" is the son of himself. We believe….as I think MANY people do…..that Heavenly Father and his Only Begotten Son are TWO separate beings with ONE in purpose and ONE in unity. The Son prays to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane (John 17)….asking that his disciples are ONE as they are ONE???? ONE in unity, not one is actual being. LDS believe that Jesus Christ is the only name under heaven whereby we can be saved…..and they say we aren't Christians? THEIR definition…the Nicene Creed definition…of what a Christian is THEIR definition. Certainly not what we believe the Bible to teach. For all of those out there that have a negative taste in your mouths for religion, I am sorry that such discussions are taking place over POLITICS. One of the LDS tenets is that we should "allow all the men the same privilege. Let them worship how, where or what they may." May a man be judged to be president based on his ability to lead, to get things done that will benefit the purpose of this country and follow the Constitution which we support. I am disappointed in Huckabee's not overtly malicious but subtle comment.

Religion. The downfall of man.

Dear CNN. In 5th grade we learned the difference between a declarative statment and a question. a comment is a statement. Sounds like Huckabee asked a question… he did not make a "comment". I would think that the very least you liberal arts people could get this one right. You are either stupid or slanted. I'm not sure which is worse.

How exactly is this an attack? He's just stating the truth.

Does Huckabee know that as a Christian who believes in the Bible he/Baptist believe Satan is Jesus brother too as God created everyone and everything? Perhaps he wasn't the best theology student after all which would maybe explain his ignorant remark.

No issue should be above the right to scrutiny, debate, challenging and opposing. The idea that religion, spirituality, and all other systems of belief are somehow exempt from any objective critical analysis is inconsistent with every underlying message of democracy, and freedom in the true sense of their definitions.

A mistaken, or calculated attack on someones ideas, or whatever else, should be not be scrutinized differently for being religious in nature. I don't care for either candidate, so I don't feel motivated to decide if Huck went too far. I think I agree with Dan, Lexington though. I'd like to see political figures become less of a system that tailors them, and more like us ones in between. Have actual real answers follow the real questions and issues.

What mudslinging slur is next? The Devil made him/her do it! or Kill a ___________ (fill in the blank as you wish) for Christ!

Mixing religion and politics demeans both and hints at theocratic impulses that have no place in this constitutional republic. One can see where this can lead to–just look at the Taliban in the Middle East.

The point is not whether mormons do or don't believe that. The point is that he intentionally brought up something that he knew some people would find controversial about another candidate's personal faith, without any kind of explanation of the doctrine itself. I'm not buying the awww shucks attitude he's covering it up with.

He did it with the intention of making people think Romney's religion is weird. That's why it's a low blow. It's irrelevant to the election.

Strange that Huckabee is accuratly quoting Mormon dogma and he is to blame. Why is the media shocked and redressing Huckabee, is the fact an affront to someone?

I dislike the beliefs of both evangelical fundamentalists and mormons; but really to be truthful don't all Christians believe the story of Lucifer being a fallen angel and wouldn't that make him some sort of spiritual family member of God?
In quiring minds want to know!

So how do you feel about jews and muslins Mr Huckabee. Maybe its time you decide if your running for president or minister of this country.

It is ironic that when Candidates are CANDID that they are bashed by the Left. Huck is right in his answer, and Mormonism is a cult. I do not agree with all of his stances, but so far Huck has my vote.

Why is stating a fact considered intolerant? If Hilary said that Christians hold that Mary was a Virgin I would not be offended. Why do Mormons not want the truth about their religion discussed?

Hmm…I could swear I remember Huckabee saying that questions about Romney's faith were "inappropriate". Sounds like the pastor's getting a little nervous now that he's the one getting the limelight attacks.

As a point of fact, though, the belief that Jesus and Satan being brothers shouldn't be apphauling to someone who reads the Bible. I believe Isaiah said, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, SON of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" (Isaiah 14:12). Who's son do you think he is??? Son of the Morning=Lucifer, Son of God=Christ, two sons, same father=brothers. Hmm…makes sense to me.

I'm not sure what makes this bad doctrine. What is does make for Huckabee is bad politics…

It doesn't matter if Mormons do believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. What matters is that when you attack another person's religiion while admitting that you don't know much about it is hitting below the belt. Huckabee has gone to far. This country was founded on religious freedom. These people are running for president. Religion has nothing to do with the job of president. I know I will not vote for or not vote for someone because of their religion. My vote will be based on their ideas to make this country better for me and my family. Leave the religious insult out of the election. Because of Huckabee's comment, he may have lost any chance he had to gain my vote.

I am a Huckabee supporter and have close ties to him. We all agree that Mormonism is a dangerous, deluded cult, and we are NOT politically correct about it.

We're conservatives, not liberals. Try to grow some thicker skin, Mitt.

I am an independent who leans Republican, however, if either Huckabee or Romney were to win the Republican nomination I would gladly vote Democrat. I loathe Hillary Clinton to the core but these two candidates are dangerous to this country.

The Republican party needs to rid itself of the evangelical element else it will ultimately become irrelevant just like the Democratic party has been since the 60's. Nomination of either of these two candidates would certainly go along way towards that end.

This guy is such a bigoted, racist, homophobic, lying creep. I am ashamed he's even running for anything other than the head of the KKK.If you aren't white, old and Christian forget living in his America. I think the country is sick of dealing with people like this.

If Huckabee he is going to make a comment and then claim he doesn't really know if that is the case what does that say about his leadership abilities? If he were president would he be making remarks and staking out positions on issues he hasn't bothered to study and understand? Wow what a leader he would be,…..not!!!

Huckabee was right in his understanding of doctrine for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As someone with a degree in theology though he is aware of the full context of that doctrine which he intentionally did not present. So what was the purpose of his comment then? It was simply to attack. There was no innocence in his statement, it was not causual in nature, it was not meant to educate, it was meant to scare. Wow, another scare tactic by another politician, who by the way was a Baptist minister who preached everyone was going to hell if they did not following his preaching. Are his actions/tactics really that surprising being both a politician and former hell fire and brimstone minister?

Huck's an equal opportunity offender.

As an Atheist, this is all high comedy to me.

Posted By jw, canadian,ok : December 12, 2007 11:01 am

As an Atheist as well, this is not comedy. This is serious! Do we really want another president that bases his thought process on his religion? Science is hurting because of men like this.

The earth is only 6,000 years old? Evolution didn't happen? God put dinosaur bones deep in the earth to test our faith?

What happens if the choice comes along to nuke a country that might start World War 3 and the president thinks that by dropping the bomb he is simply 'fulfilling prophecy'?

It is time to get out of the new 'Middle Ages' seriously.

Huckabee is saying now that religion should stay out of politics, just wait if he becomes President the tide will turn, it will be all about religion.

The Evangelists and Baptists have turned this GOP race into a complete religious joke…
By the way, aren't all Southern Baptists wife beating, NASCAR loving, KKK members?

Those of you arguing that it's an actual belief are missing the point.

The fact is, Huckabee's comments are very deceptive. I highly doubt that that is all he knows about the Mormon church.

As a missionary for the LDS church I would hear different reasons why people weren't interested in learning more about us. Whenever I heard the "Satan and Christ are brothers" argument as to why they weren't interested, I knew they were baptist. It's obviously a doctrine that the baptist ministers stress to their congregations to keep people from learning more about the LDS church.

Of all the "innocent" questions he could have asked about the Mormon church, why do you think it was that one?

Hmm…

I think Huck really wants to "isolate" the Mormons, just like he wanted to "isolate" the AIDS patients. Just another example of a biggoted Republican A-hole.

Im confused. Did he say anything that was untrue?

Hey, if you're not prepared to defend your beliefs, then maybe you should rethink them. Huckabee made an accurate statement about Mormonism. Romney's religion is fair game. It tells a lot about him. To tell the truth, I think they're both too religious, but that's another rant.

Just the fact that so many of you keep repeating yourself that Mormons do believe that proves Romney's point. Should Huckabee point out all religous differences just because they are true? All religions believe different things. We don't need to hear about it. Huckabee knew exactly what he was doing. Ask a question that stirs up religous intolerance based on perception. Who cares if mormons believe that. It is a minor difference and irrelevant to the election.

There are a lot of ways to twist someone's religious beliefs. How would Huckabee feel if Romney twisted one of the Baptists beliefs?

Taking someone else's religious beliefs out of context is not the right way to run a campaign.

I can’t believe I just wasted my time reading this stream of comments from all these theological experts and whiners (sorry Christen). Yes, I’m whining as well. Thank-you for the education.
Oh, by the way, I hear there is a Presidential election on the way. Maybe I’ll concentrate on the candidate’s positions and policies instead of their religion. Face it; there will be a new president one way or the other. We better pick the best.

I am a Mormon and I see nothing wrong with Huchabee's question. It was a question and not a comment, according to the NY Times peice. He said he thinks Mormonism is a religion, that he doesn't know much about it, and then asks a question.

And, the answer to the question is yes. We believe that we are all God's children–which makes us all brothers and sisters. Everyone. Even Satan.

So…what's the big deal? Nice picture though. CNN makes him look like a grimmacing demon. Is Political news real slow today?

Move on, people. There is nothing to see here.

Huckabee is completely factual in his statement. Why are people so up in arms about the truth? He could have used more tact in that statement/question, but he did not slander the Mormon faith.

This is so ridiculous, what is it now ? hate speech !!
The Mormons also believe that their founder Joseph Smith will sit in judgement of all believers.
Do I agree or believe in it ?? the answer is NO !!.
How is that offensive ??

A just released Iowa poll has Huckabee ahead by 5% on Romney — we have seen much worse for Mitt in the last few days.

As an ex-Mormon, I can confirm that Huckabee's comments are correct in regard to the belief that Jesus and the devil are brothers. Mormon's also believe that only they will enter heaven, which consists of three levels, and only the highest level of heaven if they are married to another Mormon and this marriage has been blessed by the Temple. (This belief is really no different that that of which most religions have!)

Rather than attacking one another's integrity, shouldn't the real issues currently facing our nation be addressed instead?

Well, do or do not Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers? How is asking a question about Mormon doctrine attacking it?

Don't blaim Huckabee for disparaging the Mormon Religion; he is simply pointing out some of their strange teachings.

The Mormon Religion teaches that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers — both created by the Father. Another odd teaching is that men can become gods and populate their own planets with their wives.

The Mormon Religion is deceitful. They use the same terminology as Christians but they mean something totally different.

Mitt Romney is trying to hide from his religion because it is so odd and different from Christianity.

Just what we need. Another hateful chistian in the White House. Haven't we all had enough?

Not only should Mitt Romney worry about people wanting a Christian to represent them, but he needs to accept the fact that one's religion affects every aspect of their life. No person of any religious faith should deny that. Sounds as if he wants to win so bad that he is already willing to lie.

What a bunch of losers. I love the theoretical debate of who's make believe world is right.

I am so confused!! I thought our country was founded on freedom of religion??!!! Why is this a conversation?!!!

By the way, those whose main argument opposing the Mormon church because it is a Cult are already showing their ignorance. By definition all religious groups are Cults. What makes any Christian sect any better than Mormonism? Both believe pretty radical things.

Huckabee's campaign said their candidate was "illustrating an unwillingness to answer questions about Mormonism." How so? He answered every question posed to him and in an intolerant manner. It's a shame he "doesn't know much about Mormonism" and yet appears to have plenty of answers that show ignorance nonetheless.

mormons do, in fact beleive that

I believe a candidates religion should be called into question. It reflects on their judgement and can bare witness to the fervor with which they practice. First, whether your religious or not the constitution strictly points the separation between church and state. While you may a person of faith before you were that you were an American. You're asked to make decisions for Americans, ALL Americans. Including Atheists, Neo-Nazis, Christians, Evolutionists and all the glory and scourge in between… As a president you need to do this as an American first. NOT a Baptist, Mormon, Catholic or whatever brand of religion you may subscribe to. Listening to Kennedy's speech, I believe that was his point. John Kennedy the Catholic should not be confused with John Kennedy the President. It appears that Huckabee AND Romney want religion playing a part in their Administrations where it really has no place. Kennedy spoke with conviction, honesty and answered tough questions about his religion, the Vatican and more. What a breath of fresh air it would be to have any of these candidates actually answer a question outright.

I'm a Mormon and didn't find any of these comments offensive. He asked a question about a core belief of the Mormon doctrine. We do believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers in the sense that the are both God's creation and he is the Father of all. Don't all Christian religions believe this?

CHUCK, I could not agree more. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison must be rolling over in their graves at all this nonsense about personal beliefs having nothing to do with any of the issues confronting this country.

Mr. Huckabee’s comments are accurate and correct (he knows much more about Mormonism than he would have us believe). The fact that Mitt Romney is Mormon brings into question his judgment. Unlike our current president, our next president must have good judgment. Unfortunately for both Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, they have proven time and again that they have extremely poor judgment in both their personal and professional lives.

Being Christian doesn't mean being intolerant or small-minded. Jesus was the least small-minded of anyone at the time. He ate with sinners that no one else would get near.

That said, the Republicans would be foolish to nominate Huckabee or Romney. Both have too much baggage (Huckabee has Dumond et al and Romney has flip-flopped on many issues) If the GOP wants to win in November, they'll suck up their pride and nominate John McCain

Okay, Huckabee wants to have the constitution amended to ensure gays can't marry, quaranteen aids victims, believes women should be silent and should graciously and willingly submit to their husbands, now Mormons are a cult. Wow, with so many positive attributes and fresh ideas how can he not be president.

Hey Mitt – not only is "attacking someone's religion" going too far – discussing religion in the context of a presidential election is going too far. "It's not the American way". I don't know if they realize that they're campaigning for President, not Christian in Chief or Pope. Just the mention of religion in this way seals the deal for me – neither will get my attention.

It appears to me that Huckabee is ignorant. He clearly states he doesn't know much about the religion and still he consists on belittling it. Maybe he should spend a few minutes reading about Mormonism and then he might be a better man and a better candidate. Can you imagine this guy in office? I cannot based on the issue that this man is closed minded and would like to remain ignorant.

If religion is such a good idea to garner evangelical votes, why do evangelicals and bushys alike think it is so horrendous for Pres. Ahmadnejad of Iran to propagate Islam fundamentalism to pursue his own goals.
Is it not right to say that most evangelists are propagating the same kind of religious fundamentalism and religious intolerance, for which Ahmadnejad of Iran is being condemned.

Although I am not voting for either one of these guys, I have to say that making remarks about anyones religion just isn't right.
Although, I do beleive that someone's religion and its beliefs leads a person's path in what they do. And since I do not know anything about the Mormon religion, I can't say if some of these postings or the question he asked about the mormon religion, is true or not.

Huckabee is definitely a hypocrite. First he releases a statement saying "he believes this campaign should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation, and not focus on questions of religious belief". Then he runs campaign adds touting his position as a christian leader. He can't have it both ways. The election is either about real issues or it's about who is the "better/real" christian.

When you play with fire, you get burned.

Our founding fathers wisely took religion out of out politics and law to prevent much the same thing as we now see in the Middle East. But the Republicans keep playing the evangelicals for fools to get the "Jesus" votes.

If the Republicans took a sincere look at our Constitution, they might just become sane again.

The latest Iowa poll has Huckabee at 39%, and Romney at with every other candidate in single-digits. But a convincing case can be made that this is actually good news for Romney!

Who is posting the pictures for these comments? How come EVERY single photo of Huckabee is awful and unflattering, while Hillary's are ALWAYS glamour shots?

Unbiased reporting, no question.

I am a Mormon and they do believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers, so what's the big deal.

Sick of this! Sick Of This! SICK OF THIS!!! This country is so stuck on the Religious aspect in this election it is truly sickening.

How entertaining. The theocrats are now debating the fine points of their individual cults. Perhaps we can decide our next election based upon how many angels will fit on the head of a pin.

I believe Mormon's do believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers.

What does it matter in the first place? Harry Potter and Voldemort are connected too. All fiction no matter how you spin it.

Atheism is a religion, therefore, it's a cult too (according to your theory Atheist).

I don't like Huckabee and won't vote for him, but this article is idiotic. The man asked a question — a valid question, as it turns out — about a topic he is not that familiar with. How is asking a question about Mormon theology in anyway negative or an attack on Romney?

I'd rather we focus on things that matter: Iraq, Social Security, fiscal responsibility, etc. What a waste of time.

Robert Shannon, Dallas, TX

You left out sanctimonious, pompous bible thumper.

What exactly did Huck do wrong again? Mormons DO believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers…

I just cant believe how much importance religion has in US politics, espcially when we tell other countries not to mix two. The over the top reaction about keith wilson was just one of the many examples. I wish that we truly had a society where religion was for personal practice not public consumption.

It really doesn't sound like an attack to me. He admits he doesn't know much about it and perhaps the question he put was genuine.

I would just add that I think both Mormons AND Baptists have some beliefs I personally veiw as bizarre; but I don't think talking about it should be off limits.

Why is Huckabee under fire ??
If the Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers, that's their perogative. As Christians, we believe that Jesus is God in the flesh and that He created all things, including a created Lucifer who later becomes Satan.

Huckabee and Romney are both religious nuts. Just like Bush!

The Webster Dictionary definition of a 'cult' (derived from the Latin term 'cultus'….meaning 'worship'): 1)"A community or system of religious worship and ritual" (hmmmm….by this definition, it would seem that ALL religions are cults, right?)…2)"A religion or religious sect generally regarded as extremist or false, whose followers often live communally under an authoritarian, charismatic leader" ~ by this definition, the Ancient Egyptians would have considered Moses and his Jewish followers a 'cult'…later, the Romans, as well as the Jews, would have considered Christ and his followers a 'cult'…further on down the line, the Catholic Church would have considered Martin Luther, the principal founder of ALL Protestant beliefs (including, yes, you Baptists), and his followers a 'cult'…this brings us to today, where a less than two hundred year-old church known as 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' is now under the microscope and accused of being a 'cult'………bottom line, I think a great many of you holier-than-thou 'Christians' could do with a nice big dose of EDUCATION, as well as the tolerance that the forbearers of your belief systems worked hard for so that you yourselves could now enjoy. Now, that being said, let us remove religious bigotry, and all other forms of bigotry for that matter, from the abrasive and already annoying art of politics, and focus on the character of the INDIVIDUAL.

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=4a10ef960417b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1

The proof is in the pudding. This is a link from lds.org scroll down and read away!

Mormons DO believe it.

Huckabee's true colors are showing. He doesn't even have the brains to shut his stupid, southern mouth for a few weeks and have Iowa fall into his lap. A vote for Huckleberry is a vote for Rudy or Hillary. As a Christian myself, I'm disgusted by Huckabee's views and insuations on religion. Romney is tougher, much smarter, has better judgment and doesn't have a history of corruption as governor, as many Arkansas people have been alluding to.

Time for Romney to say in an interview, "I don't know much about Baptists… don't they beat their wives?"

Isn't Santa Claus Satan's cousin? Are these people living in our century?

After hearing such ignorance from the voice of a presidential contender, I'm concerned about what chance our country has for a leader of any substance. Huckabee has proven to me that he hasn't any knowledge beyond his own little world. He will not get my vote — no, I'm not a Mormon, never have been, never will be, but I have read about it and know more about it, apparently, than someone who wants to lead this country. Such ignorance!

I notice Mitt Romney did not deny Mike Huckabee's claims that Mormonism claims Satan is the spirit brother of Christ. That's because Huckabee's statement is true.

Here is just one of several examples of this doctrine in Mormonism literature. In the Journal of Discourses by Brigham Young, in Vol. 13 page 282 he writes:

"… it makes me think of that second person that came forth in the heavens when the voice went forth: "Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?" The eldest son said: "Here am I;" but he did not say "send me." But the second one, which was "Lucifer, son of the morning," said, "Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth." "But," says the Father, "that will not answer at all. I give each and every individual his agency; all must use that in order to gain exaltation in my kingdom; inasmuch as they have the power of choice they must exercise that power. They are my children; the attributes which you see in me are in my children and they must use their agency. If you undertake to save all, you must save them in unrighteousness and corruption. You will be the man that will say to the thief on the cross, to the murderer on the gallows, and to him who has killed his father, mother, brothers, and sisters and little ones, "Now, if you will say, I repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, or on the Savior of the world, you shall be saved." This is what all the religious sects of the day are saying now, but Jesus did not say any such thing."

i do not see how Huckabees comments are offensive. nothing was out of line. he didnt go to far. but anything he says is going to be taken out of contex because people are mad that he doesnt have to spend millions of dollars to get the bid. sorry Romney but your not going to get it. but you have good tactics. keep throwing mud so no one can dig up yours. trust me though your time will come when the truth comes out

Actually, what Huckabee said is an extremely simplistic version of an actual theological belief of LDS. It also shows one of the fundamental religious differences between Mormonism and Christianity, in that (theologically speaking) Christ is not one with God or part of God, but rather a separate figure entirely. In Christianity, Christ is part of God's being, the "God-made-flesh" who is both a distinct aspect of God but also unified with his being. That is kind of important in terms of religion, but thankfully WE ARE NOT ELECTING A RELIGIOUS LEADER. Let's get back to politics.

It has already been shown today that Huckabee did not make this comment, which by the way is in the form of a question not a comment even in your out-of-context quote. Another Baptist minister stupidly asked this question. Stop showing your own political biases!!

OK. If religion is such a good idea to garner evangilical votes, why do evangelicals and bushy's alike think it so horrendous for Pres. Ahmadnejad of Iran to propagate Islam fundamentalism to achieve his own goals.

By the above argument, is it not right to say that most evangelist are propagating the same kind of religious fundamentalism and religious intolerance, for Ahmadnejad of Iran is being condemned.

Huckabee also has ways of thinking that are even stranger. Huckabee's views and record are the worst you can never find in one candidate from either party… the man thinks the world is only 6,000 years old and all the evidence about evolution is not even acknowledged by him. He want your children go to school and be instructed in other alternatives to evolution (creationism) in public schools. The man is a flake and I hope he’s the GOP candidate.

Momonism is a cult. It's like Scientology. It's not a religion. I will NEVER vote for a Mormon. They do not share the same beliefs as most Americans. Huckabee was right in asking the question. I've often wondered the same thing. If I had ask, no one would care. I'm glad he asked.

Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)

Why would Romney (or any other Mormon)be upset with what Huckabee said? It is the truth according to LDS doctrine.

Yet none of them seem to notice that
both of the "holy books" they are
sniping about are riddled with errors
contradictions and lies.They are both
blinded by their own belief in their mythology to to see reality..Do we
want leaders that still believe in
fairy stories?

I'm an active Mormon and I don't care what Huckabee thinks of my faith. He made a comment. No one died. Get over it.

The point is, Huckabee is acting EXACTLY like a Christian – bigoted, small-minded, and wrong.

Huckabee, like all of the other necon evangelicals who want to "purify" our "christian" nation to their standards, have no business in the political arena and this whole flap just proves it.
Why aren't these "family values" jokers who are in the final analysis nothing more than religious bigots being asked the serious questions like, how are you going to run the country? I want real answers from any of the so called "christian candidates" of either party, not some hollow invocation like "I'll pray a lot".

Of course Huck doesn't know about the Mormon faith, he went to Southwestern Baptist Theological and Ouachita Baptist Bible College – if you're baptist, you don't need to know about anybody else's religion. Besides, what we need to be asking Huck – the "Christian" candidate about is his last few days in the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas. Why did he feel the need to use state funds to destroy (and by destroy I mean physically smash) the hard drives of several state-owned computers on his way out? And why did he deplete the state's Emergency Fund on non-emergencies on his way out of office, leaving the next governor with no money to help the several Arkansas towns hit by tornadoes shortly after the change in governorship? These are just a couple of questions that might be more appropriate for a potential presidential candidate. His 10 years as governor ought to provide anyone w/ many more. CNN (and every other news agency) needs to get somebody in Arkansas to start looking into these and other issues.

So it will not be taken out of context, I quote Zev Chafets from the New York Times who writes: “I asked Huckabee, who describes himself as the only Republican candidate with a degree in theology, if he considered Mormonism a cult or a religion. ‘I think it’s a religion,’ he said. ‘I really don’t know much about it.’ I was about to jot down this piece of boilerplate when Huckabee surprised me with a question of his own: ‘Don’t Mormons,’ he asked in an innocent voice, ‘believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?’”
This last statement by Mike Huckabee appears to be a true representation of Huckabee’s belief that Mormonism is a cult. Fortunately he slipped by making this comment and we see his true colors. This is an attack on Romney's religion. Mitt Romney is right; this is truly un-American for someone seeking to be the President of the United States. Romney’s speech last week showed us the best of America and religion.

I guess I'm confused here. How is a question asked by Mike Huckabee an attack on Mormonism especially when the question is valid?

"Hence, there is — and must be — a devil, and he is the father of lies and of wickedness. He and the fallen angels who followed him are spirit children of the Father. As Christ is the Firstborn of the Father in the spirit, so Lucifer is a son of the morning, one of those born in the morning of preexistence…"

ALLLLLLL Christians, well the ones who read the bible at least, accept that all being are God's children, literally. That would make Jesus, Lucifer, you, and me all brothers and sisters in the most literal sense. What the hell is the problem with these idiot politicians who want the Christians vote but who do not even understand the very religion they pander to in order to win elections? It is mind boggling!

The GOP is the party of intolerance. Period. They are no better than feuding radical sects of other religions. Fighting over who practices the "correct" version of Christianity is sad.What America needs is a leader who wants our government to provide health care for all, fair taxation, treat immigrants like people, not criminals, not worry about whether gays want to marry and let women choose what to do with their bodies, and not stress one religion over another. That is not a platform that is compatible with any GOP candidate, by any stretch of one's imagination, when your party's agenda is controlled by the radical right. We will see a Democrat elected President in November 2008 – it's just a matter of which candidate will win.

Huckabee is correct. That is Mormon theology.

The question itself is a low-blow by the media because they're terrified he's in first all of a sudden.

This is unfortunate. Mike Huckabee is starting to show his true colors. He says he believes the election should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation, and not focus on questions of religious belief. But this is just lip service. Huckabee has consistently been painting himself as the Christian candidate in TV ads, insinuating that the other candidates aren't Christian. In addition he has said this comment about Mormonism. Huckabee is clearly running on his the religion and playing on the uneasiness that some evangelicals may have towards Mormonism. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, Mike Huckabee has exposed himself as a hypocrite and a bigot. This is truly un-American and violates the constitution.

And on a side note, if people were to read the bible in Revelations it STATES that there was a fallen one (Lucifer) who was a member of God's family (as were all of us) and he fell, so what is so "strange" about Mormons using the Bible as their doctrine???? Get it right Huckabee…you're a preacher, read Revelations. It's all in there. You are being very sneaky and sly in saying you don't know anything about Mormons and yet you plaster them and Romney with little inuendos about things you say you do know about the religion, yet you said in one sentence earlier you didnt' know anything.

If these folks knew how much humor they were providing to non-Beleivers, with their childish spiritual spats, they would probably quit it on their own. Terry from El Paso nailed it. It is really incredible that so much space and time is taken up in a dispute about someone's choice to believe in diaphanous spritual entities. Now, they are arguing which unverifiable myth is more correct. Truly incredible. Both views of who Satan and Jesus are have equal evidence and credibility to back their beliefs. None whatsoever. Why do we keep wasting time on someone's personal choice to believe in something that exists only in the minds of those who wish to believe it? That's fine, but both of these gents and many others need to learn that believing in "unseen spirits" is a personal thing, and, has no place in government business. Both have shown they do not understand that, therefore, they should not be elected. In short—who cares? We are not electing an Imam, are we? I could care less what supernatural beliefs others have as long as they don't try to legitimize them by legal means, such as prayer in school for example. Shouldn't even be a discussion. I'd love to see these folks just clam up about Jesus for awhile and talk about issues based in reality.

Perhaps if Romney has a problem with what Huckabee said, he could further elaborate on what he actually believes. He says that his religion shouldn't b attacked, but I don't think that it was. He did his whole religion speech, and made it sound as though Baptists and Mormons have the same basic doctrine, which is false. Seems to me that Huckabee was making a correct statement – how is that absurd or disparaging? But, maybe we are all wrong – what is it that Mormons DO believe?

The reporter asked a simple question and got a simple question back. Good question Huckabee!

Well, as it turns out, Mr. Huckabee, a mental lightweight who believes in creationism, is right: Mormons in fact do believe, as part of their doctrine of faith, that Jesus and the Devil are brothers.

Now why, exactly, is this literal and accurate recitation of fact considered a low blow?

This is an outstanding article. I am confident that if this issue is pushed further with Huck a mushroom cloud will erupt. Keep asking Huck if Mormonism is a cult; keep asking what he truly believes about Mormons in yes or no questions. One of two things will happen, first he will have to cater to the evangelicals by continuing to hint Mormons are a cult (etc…) or second he will back down from these types of innuendos and explain the situation outright. If he were to back down, what would that make him in the face of the average voter and/or evangelical? Why are representatives/leaders of one religion trying to define another religion, either by innuendo or otherwise with comments like: “I would not vote for a Mormon?” Comments of this nature are despicable and shameful, and this will only cause them to continue to falter and loose credibility. Huck needs to come out and say that Mormons are not a cult and it is not right to proclaim Mormons are not Christian. Stand up Huck… Stand up.

The neo-cons are the ones who coupled religion with politics, so please pass Romney the crying towel. I don't care whether he is offended. In fact, it pleases me to no end.

Huckabee's quote doesn't concern me as much as the overall negative tenor of the NYT Magazine article (which is dissappointing for a publication of its caliber). While the author offers a balanced assessment of Huckabee's record as governor, he can barely veil disdain when describing (some of) the candidate's personal characteristics. Shame on the author for not entering the interview with the same good faith that the candidate apparently brought. Also, it is hypocritical of the author (Zev Chafets) to paint Huckabee's extremes when Chafets himself brings an agenda to the table (take a look at Chafets history of articles outside of NYT publications).

In my faith Santa Claus is God

Here's one reason it stinks.

Why is Huckabee, a minister, asking an NYT journalist about Mormonism after just saying you weren't going to talk about someone's religion.

Andy why ask the unsolicited question that has been on the pamphlets of the anti-Mormon propaganda being handed out in Iowa?

That's why people following the Iowa race picked up on this right away. It was very deliberate on Huckabee's part, and smacks of Dick Morris. Why is Huckabee running around with that cat anyway?

Stick to policy, Huck! Leave religion out of it . . . You're giving yourself and your party a bad name.

Think before speaking!

I think if you study deep enough into the mormomn faith you'll see that this is indeed what they believe.

I forget if Romney is a Mormon or a Moron. Thankfully, he keeps reminding us that he's the latter.

Not a fan of either of these guys but…

How is this question offensive?

I am an Xmormon. Mormons do believe the devil and Jesus are brothers. That is true.

The irony, of course, is the farther these candidate go to the right to court the evangelical vote to secure the nomination the less likely any of them is to actually be President of the United States. As a Democrat, I'm all for it.

I'm from Arkansas was was brought up as a decons kid in a Southern Baptist church. All Baptists in the South are taught that Mormons belong to a cult and that all mormons will burn in hell for enternity.

We are also taught that all Catholics are idol worshipers, and that idol worship is satanic.

Sorry guys, I tried to give you the written difference between Jesus and Satan but evidently, CNN doesn't want you to get straight information here..

Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.)

Face Facts.

Does any intelligent person actually think Huckabee's question is an attack?

I agree with a previous poster–did anyone have the journalistic sense to go to Romney's camp and get an answer? (I guess the answer is no. Big shock. Let's be responsible media members and hype the spin.)

STUPID ARGUEMENT. THE LDS DOES BELIEVE THIS. . . . WHO CARES? ANYONE HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO LEAD THE COUNTRY? NEITHER ONE OF THESE BONE-HEADS DO OR THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT THEM.

SAVE US RON PAUL!!!!!

Some of you are asking, "if that's the doctrine, then why isn't it OK?" Truly ignorant, must be Huckabee fans willing to justify whatever comes out of his mouth.

The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.

A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.

"We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all," said the spokeswoman, Kim Farah. "That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for."

The reason it is wrong is it was said with the express intent to smear and sensationalize. Huck is a juvenile and in no way presidential.

The comments posted from George of Raleigh, NC violate CNN's published policy that one may not post what is libelous or defamatory. His comments are both. They smell of stereo-typing, are un-true, and are both dis-crediting and harmful to Baptist ministers; (and as one, I am personally offended).

I'm not Christian. I'm not a Morman (which I consider to be Christian too). I don't see what someone's religon has to do with the economic and education problems that this country faces. You know, the issues that nobody pays any attention to.

I thought Christians weren't allowed to say hateful things?

Posted By BlueGoose

BlueGoose,

Christians are allowed to say whatever they want. It is called free-will, similar to our Nation's recognition of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. God allows man to determine his own fate, unlike the Liberal Socialist agenda.

As an Atheist, this is all high comedy to me.

Huckabee is starting to prove he is not ready for the limelight. He should understand that jokes in print don't come across as jokes. That is a basic of politics. I think Huckabee will flame out in the coming weeks because he is allowing Romney to be the victim; he is playing into the hands of the Romney campaign. He should have backed down from the frontrunner talk as soon as it came upon him, and tout himself as the underdog still. We are starting to see the effects of not having a solid organization that is vast and protects the candidate from such snafus.

All religions are cults!!!!!

Barry,

You left us hanging. How does a Mormon reach the highest celestial level of heaven?

Romney is really desperate. He is so slick. Notice that he did not deny what Huckabee said as being false. Look it up for yourself and you will see it is true. I think people are starting to see Romney sweat through his slick oil.

Huckabee fanatical religious beliefs are just as bad as our Islamic enemy's. No one has the right to thrust their beliefs on others through legislation.

I'm curious to see how he looks in Iowa in new polls. I would imagine he has already peaked and is beginning his Dean-like collapse. There is more negative news about him as each day wears on.

He'll "throw in an offering and an altar call" for free airtime? Ick. If this is how he represents Christianity, how would he represent our country? Please God, that he doesn't get the chance.

The implications of the question is what is troubling. It is implying that Mormons put Jesus Christ and Satan on the same level. They do not. It is equivalent to asking "are Ghandi and Hitler both humans?" Technically, yes. But you are implying that similarities go far beyond that. Someone should turn the questions back on Huckabee and asks if he believes the Bible when it says that Satan is a fallen angel. Or better yet, leave religion out of politics.

Huckabee needs to value the LDS vote a little better to be a viable candidate in the primaries and genreal election. Utah, Idaho and Arizona are important states that Repblicans rely on, but I think it would not be easy for Huckabee to win them if he is antimormon. Huck needs to leave religion alone and start talking about how he could lead the country.

What an absurd argument. I wonder what relevance Zeus of Poseidon will turn out to be this coming election. I need a candidate steeped in antiquated myth. Preferably one that doesn’t believe in evolution too!

As an Arkansas resident, I sincerely hope that this man NEVER makes it to the White House. Putting aside his constant holier-than-thou attitude, his chronic case of 'foot in mouth disease' could prove fatal in foreign relations.

Our leaders and voters are using religion as a tool to get into white house.

Judging by some comments on this political ticker, some of the respondent are seemingly fanatics.

How are these leaders and people different from Islamic fundamentalist and jihadhist?

Is it not a shame that on one hand US defense forces are fighting an endless war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran to stem Islamic religious fanatics, while on the other we have leaders like Mike Huckabee, Bushy who are hell bent on exploiting religious sentiments of people to achieve their own narrow and mean ends.

Our leaders and voters are suing religion as a tool to get into white house.

Judging by some comments on this political ticker, some of the respondent are seemingly fanatics.

How how are these leaders and people different from Islamic fundamentalist and jihadhist?

Is it not a shame that on one hand US defense forces are fighting an endless war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran to stem Islamic religious fanatics, while on the other we have leaders like Mike Huckabee, Bushy who are hell bent on exploiting religious sentiments of people to achieve their own narrow and mean ends.

Did anyone have the journalistic curiosity to ask what the answer to Huckabee's question is? It might be worth knowing.

Huckabee is just another fast talking, hypacritical politician. What a jerk for insulting millions of Mormons throughout the US, and the world. Are people really taking this guy seriously?

I think someone needs to ask Romney if Mormonism theology supports the idea that Jesus and Satan were brothers. After that he can tell me why Mormon women have to wear special underwear with some kind of special symbols on them. Oh yeah, and why is it that if you are not a Mormon and your daughter is a Mormon, then they will not allow you to attend the wedding.

It doesn't matter what either Huckabee or Romney say. Neither has a realistic chance to be president. Huckabee is more of the tired old George Bush mantra, and Romney makes 'Slick Willie' look downright genuine.

Huckabee, of ALL the Candidates, should KNOW about Mormonism. If Huckabee really is an Ordained Baptist Minister, then he should be aware of and know the Doctrine of other religions. SHAME ON YOU, HUCKABEE, and your reported GREED!. Your comment was LOW, MEAN-SPIRITED and STUPID. NO EXCUSE.

Huckabee needs to get facts about the LDS faith or shut up. He can go to LDS.org and find out for himself. He's running for president, not preacher.

Mormon theology is very different and in many places drastically opposing Christian doctrine.

Romeny is obviously an honorable man – but that doesn't make him a 'Christian'. Call him what he is. People are trying to make mormonism mainstream to wash over the conservative gop base.

He can be endorsed without endorsing mormonsim.

I don't really care about Mike Huckabee, but he was right. The Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers, and a lot of other trippy things, like someday we can all become gods. I believe religion has everything to do with a canidate, especially if its important to them. We need to be careful who we pick.

Could you please post the statement on Huckabee's website related to this issue. The quote that is the subject of this post is taken way out of context and I am sick of the media finding ways to condemn this man because of his faith.

I don't see anything wrong with what he said. Mormons DO claim Jesus is Satan's brother. Biblical Christianity doesn't. That belief, along with a host of others, including their views of the Trinity being three separate gods, points to them being a cult.

I love his response about making a God Speech! Why do we care what he thinks about Mormons and concentrate on the issues that face our great nation.

For Pete's sake – give it a rest! If you ask stupid questions you get stupid answers. To press another candidate to comment on another candidate's religion is school yard gossip mongering. Get a life.

I am a religious person, but I think Huckabee is putting a black mark on religion by manipulating it for his advantage. He says religion defines him, but he wont define religion itself, instead, offering vague quips about this and that…just to incite hatred of other religions.

How unfortunate that our national destiny is being shaped by arguments over mythologies about an unknowable and probably nonexistent deity.

It was nice when we had separation of Church and State and expected our leaders to make reasoned judgments sans superstition.

Attack away. I just left the mormon church last week and cannot believe the how brainwashed I was. America DOES NOT need a mormon President. Ask him about his "magic underwear" or about JS and his 24-33 wives (24 listed at familysearch.org, the churches website) or about the temple ceremony or how about the fact the family is so important as long as they are mormon. how moms cannot see their kids get married b/c they are not mormon. Or how missionaries at age 19 go away for two years and have to pay to do so and on top of that are not allowed to speak to their family for 2 years! (Except for on xmas and moms day, I guess dads are not important). Or about Gordon B. Hinckleys (Romneys Prophet) said that unwed moms were not LDS were to be encouraged my church members to give their babies up for adoption to LDS family Services so they can be in a mormon home. Or how about all the Racism in the church 30+ years ago that is covered up today, not even to mention polygamy. If one of warren jeffs followers was a running canidate ppl would be all over it. Yet, Romney is in one of the biggest brainwashing cults in the world and everyone is okay with that?

Just proves he may be behind the puch polls, i dont think his lead will last long once people hear of this mess he has said, even people who don't know that much about mormons dont belive that.

Huckabee has a theology degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and his undergraduate degree from Ouachita Baptist Bible College – and he "doesn't know much" about the Mormon religion? What else don't they teach about at those schools?

What's the controversy here? The answer to Huckabee's question is "yes." C'mon, CNN, do your job. If you do manage to dig a little deeper, you'd realize his question was not ludicrous at all. If you're going to report on the comment, you ought to report on Romney's dishonesty in calling it an attack. Ask a bishop — Jesus' and Satan's brotherhood is in LDS theology.

Huckabee thinks that because he is an ordained minister that he some how is the expert on religion. He is clearly trying to make this a religous battle as it relates to the Mormon faith. Someone needs to remind "Huckabee" that he is running for President, and not for God. At least Romney understands the difference. It is ok to be a person of strong faith, but with all due respect haven't we had enough story telling from Huckabee? He has a heartfelt story for everything. He stands zero chance aganist the Democrats and frankly his record isn't that great either. Come on IOWA, Romney is the real deal. Romney has my vote.

People do need to understand Romney's Mormon faith in order to understand the complete man. Women in particular need to understand what the Mormon faith thinks of them. Would women support him if they knew the facts regarding the ONLY WAY a woman can reach the celestial (highest) level of heaven in Mormon theology. Ummmm….no.

It's one small piece of the interview with that reporter. He asked a question, didn't make a comment. That was it and it was apparently insignificant enough that in the other 11 pages of the article it wasn't mentioned….

This is why he has repeatedly refused to answer questions about others' faiths, because as soon as he did say something it was taken out of context.

Mormanism was discussed at length last week. This generates interest and questions. Why become defensive? Just answer the question!

How is asking if Mormons believe Jesus & the devil are brothers a disparaging comment? Especially when it is Mormon doctrine that both Jesus & Lucifer are spirit children of Heavenly Father?

Ah yes, the old "I claim ignorance about a subject; therefore I can make any idiotic remark about it that I wish" technique.

I'm not fond of any of the Republican candidates this election season, but a thumbs up for Huckabee. It is indeed true that if you look at the details of what the Mormon religion believes, Jesus and Satan are indeed brothers, born to one of Elohim's (God) polygamous wives in the spirit world. Huckabee might also want to take note that early (mormon) church leaders taught that the US constitution would hang by a thread in the last days and that the Mormon brethern would save it. Theocracy anyone?

If Romney feels this is 'attacking' his religion, my take would be that he feels vulnerable on this one question by Huckabee; "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
Is publicizing this fact that threatening to Romney that the mere exposure equates to 'attacking'?

The answer is yes, they do. That is whu their Jesus is differnt from the Christian Jesus.

Huckabee = Bush

Today's candidates should follow Abraham Lincoln who, when faced with his own religion litmus test, told a famed preacher that it was basically no one's business. Here's the story:

http://abrahamlincolnblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/abraham-lincolns-own-religion-litmus.html

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees Americans Freedom of Religion, and that includes *any* religion, not just that of Evangelical Christians.

Whether main stream America knows it or now, Mormons DO believe that Jesus & Satan are brothers. Why should he take criticism for that? Remember that this is America and people can believe what they want. In my view as a Christian, Mormomism is a cult but they have the right to believe what they wish… just like satan worshippers… Why attack Huckabee for his view? He isn't denouncing Romney…

What do you expect, he's a baptist preacher. They are hard headed and think they are all knowing. In reality they are more jacked up than most.

This is unfortunate. Mike Huckabee is starting to show his true colors. He says he believes the election should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation, and not focus on questions of religious belief. But this is just lip service. Huckabee has consistently been painting himself as the Christian candidate in TV ads, insinuating that the other candidates aren't Christian. In addition he has said this comment about Mormonism. Huckabee is clearly running on his the religion and playing on the uneasiness that some evangelicals may have towards Mormonism. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, Mike Huckabee has exposed himself as a hypocrite and a bigot. This is truly un-American and violates the constitution.

Let's be honest, Huckabee -

he said during the recent Florida CNN/YouTube debate that he was the only candidate that had a degree in Theology. I can hardly accept his claim that he doesn't know much about Mormonism given his educational background and career as a Baptist minister. His statement about not making religion a political spectacle reeks of hypocrisy. He may not be overt in some of his religious critique, but he'll certainly take a backdoor to make subtle jabs that he masks as being "metaphoric". Cute, Huckabee. Cute. No thanks

I don't really see how the comment is offensive, it's just an incomplete understanding of the Mormon doctrine. In the strictest sense, the Mormon faith DOES believe Jesus and Satan are brothers, but that's not even close to the whole story.

Mormons believe, like some other religions do, that Lucifer is a fallen angel that was cast out from Heaven. Since angels are exalted ("perfected") humans, and since all humans are sons and daughters of God, all humans are brothers and sisters (and refer to each other as such in the Mormon faith), including Lucifer.

More than that though, Lucifer is said to be the second son of God, who was second in stature only to Jesus until he rebelled and was cast out of Heaven. After that, he became the Father of Lies that we are all familiar with today.

I was raised in the Mormon faith, and I don't see how any of this would be offensive. It is simply a story about how Lucifer came to be the father of evil, and makes just as much sense as any other story in religious doctrine.

These clowns can't have it both ways. If their "faith" is so important then they must answer the theological questions, just like if waterboarding is OK, then its fine for Al Queda to waterboard Jena if they "suspect" her of being a terrorist.

Disparaging comment? It sounded like a question to me.

What is the answer CNN? Are their only atheist among you??
Then how about some investigative reporting for a change..

Religion and Politics taken separately can be very interesting and insightful, but when you mix the two together you get: Unjust wars(crusades), Divided nations, intolerance of those different than the "norm". We need to do all we can as citizens to bring back the separation of church and state because I really believe that if we don't this country will fall even deeper into the chasm that is our corporate, theocratic, dictatorship that we are in now.

Romney is right- attacking someone for their religion, ESPECIALLY in America where we pride ourselves on religious toleration, is not acceptable. And this during a time when there's movements to be open to Muslims in America. So we're NOT open to Mormons, too?

I absolutely do not like any of the candidates. But as a fact, Mormons do believe that Jesus and Lucifer are, in fact, literally spirit brothers. Both put forth salvation plans before God. God chose Jesus' plan. Lucifer sulked off and did his own thing. Technically speaking, Huckabee is correct.

I thought Christians weren't allowed to say hateful things?

Is Romney actually DENYING that a fundamental aspect of LDS belief is that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit-brothers? If so, he is blatently lying, because that is precisely what the LDS believe. Why should making an accurate comment be characterized as an "attack"? On the other hand, if Huckabee is honest enough to make such an observation in a non-critical way (which it appears is the true context of his remark), then what does that say about Romney's counterattack?

Mitt Romney has spent over $40 million (a good deal of it from his own pocket) trying to shmooze his way into the hearts and minds of Republican voters; Huckabee has spent barely a million and a half, and has overtaken him. It must annoy the heck out of a man like Mitt to have to keep throwing good money after bad.

If you think about it for only a moment, you will see that there is not a dime's worth of difference between a devout Mormon and a devout evangelical Christian. They look the same, act the same, have the same values, have the same politics, etc. Both have swallowed Conservatism's baited hook even though the achievement of Conservative goals will result in a serious deterioration in their quality of life.

The only real difference is theology. What is theology and where is it found? It exists only in the minds of believers. It is a pattern of thoughts in the brain. For example, let's say that one competitive runner motivates himself by saying "I will win this race in memory of my dead father, who just passed away and who always encouraged me." Another runner might think, "I will win this race because coach says he'll drop me from the team unless I start producing results. My father will be devastated if I'm dropped from the team!"

Both men run their hearts out and it is a photo finish. The difference between the winner and loser cannot be determined even by the fast action camera. That is, both men act the same way, even though they have different thoughts in their minds motivating them.

Let us stop quibbling over how many angels can fit in a Volkswagen.

If I understand Mormon theology correctly, Huckabee was right in what he said. Is it such a bad thing to correctly state one of the doctrines of Mormonism?

"I think attacking someone's religion is really going too far. It's not the American way." "I'm just not going to go off into evaluating other people's doctrines and faiths. I think that is absolutely not a role for a president" Both interesting comments, considering that the neocons are perfectly willing to attack people or punish people for countless other aspects of their personal lives. Just another example of "do as I say, not as I do"

Huckabee's mouth is always faster than his brain.