- Election results in Florida should have gone to Gore in 2000.

- Election results in Ohio should have gone to Kerry in 2004 but the minority areas closed early and minorities were told to go to other precincts where they were not able to vote. This is all thanks to Carl Rove who flew in the day of the election to Ohio to ensure the Secretary of State (a REpublican)enforced those republican ways.

What a sad country we're living in right now.

Ha Ha!!

Posted By bprossersme : December 14, 2007 7:52 am

Hey MORON,
What's a moran???

Here are some points to consider:
U.S. Attorneys are to be independant of any and all political influence. That means they need to be impartial and prosecute everybody that they have a case for.

The problem is that many of these firing have the appearance of being fired for political reasons. Without independant prosecutors, we risk that those that are in power could get away with far too many things; more than they do now.

Up next, citations for Congress members who filibuster. After that, citations for justices who decide cases unfavorably.

Like it or not, hiring/firing attorneys (for ANY reason, politics, the color of your shoes, or an attorney's lack of Binaca spray) is among the rights granted to the executive branch, just as filibusters are for the legislative branch. If Congress doesn't like it, they need to learn to lump it.

Thank you for reminding me I am not alone.

Where was CNN's biased outrage when Billary fired ALL the US attorney's and replaced them with their own dominions??
Posted By Anonymous : December 13, 2007 1:07 pm

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Love it when people who don't even have the backbone to post under their name are ignorant as well.

Presidents traditionally replace attorneys at the beginning of the new administration. St. Ronald did the same.

What Rove did was to replace only certain GOP attorneys who actually believed in the rule of law instead being of drooling lapdogs for the political agenda of the Bushies... this is unheard of in the middle of their appointments. He got caught. Those
who were fired declined to go quietly.

Ignorance can be cured but stupidity goes on forever.

If they admitted they were fired for political reasons from the start, then there would have been no problem.

Funny how the Bush admin acts like they had something to hide when there really wasn't. That's the true nature of a criminal. Those are the people you support you Bush boot lickers.

The Dems don't have to make Bush look bad . . . he doe's that on his lonesome!!!! Being from LA, you should have First hand knowledge of that!!!

Next stop: Impeachment

ImpeachBush.org

I would only hope that sooner than later the Democrats use the "Nuclear Option" in the senate to control the GOP filibuster machine! The GOP used this tactic to force the Democrats to end the filibuster against their Supreme court packing with GOP lackeys.

All we're asking for is the TRUTH. Is that so hard for this administration to understand???

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

And what ever happened when Bush threatened to hold accountable anyone who had anything to do with OUTING CIA-Operative Valerie Plame? NOTHING!!!

Just as an example, firing a US attorney in order to derail an ongoing criminal investigation would constitute an act of obstruction of justice. I know that doesn't strike Bush supporters as a serious matter. In fact, its an old standard from their team's play book. But some of us old-fashioned folks still take that kind of thing seriously.

So humor us. Let's get the testimony and see the evidence before we give the "tough on crime" people on the far right another pass.

Oversight... and about time too.

The lack of oversight during the first 6 years of the Bush Presidency, has been astounding, on both the Executive and Congressional levels. The lack of oversight, leads many Americans to believe that laws were broken, or money mismanaged... in the case of the firings of these individuals... it appears that it was politically motivated, and that the Justice Department was irresponsible in the handling of these firings.

As to the subpoenas, it has been stated that the President was not involved, therefore, Rove and Bolten were given time to obey the subpoenas, and have chosen not too.... this is contempt.

It's time that those that are called before Congress for hearings, obey the summons, as is part of our Checks and Balances.

-Failure to heed intelligence that could have prevents 9/11
-Failure to lead a successful war campaign in Afghanistan
-Failure to capure Osama Bin Laden
-Defrauding the nation to declare war on Iraq
-Shady issuing of Halliburton contracts
-Coverup of past AWOL situation while in the Air National Guard
-Valerie Plame incident
-Firing of U.S. attorneys
-Illegal wiretapping and intelligence techniques
-Tacit endorsement of torture
-Holding captives without charges or trial at Guantanamo
-Criminal neglect of Hurricane Katrina crisis
-Fake news reports and staged press conferences
-Absolute refusal to cooperate with investigations into any of these misdeeds

All of this, plus his abhorrent political positions, which are intolerant, warmongering, theocratic, and economically simpleminded and impratical. Oh, and he's dumber than more than half the people I meet every day. He shouldn't even be manager of a Burger King.

What a disgusting, criminally corrupt adminstration. Not only should they be impeached one by one, they should all be in jail. I hope there is some kind of retroactive justice policy in place to take care of this someday.

In any case, did I leave anything off the scorecard?

Posted By Jonah, Boston MA : December 13, 2007 1:19 pm

Amen! Couldn't have said it better myself Johan – thanks!

with all this talk!

>>> Lets' CUT the Snakes Head..off!

The Democratic controlled Congress of the United States at this point, is an embarrasment!

The specific attorneys that were removed over refusals to investigate GOP officials, refusals to try to taint Dems with baseless electioneering allegations, etc etc. The argument that the President can do what he wishes whenever he wishes with regard to US Attorneys only holds water in the broadest sense.

Please, please just go back to your RNC fax machine and stare at it until the next set of talking points comes over the wire.

Some facts for the Senate Judiciary Committee:

1. Executive Privilege is absolute unless the Federal Courts decide it's not applicable. The Senate Judiciary Committee can not over-ride the EP statute.

2. The Senate has no means to enforce any citations (unless it decides to send out the Senate's Sargent-at-Arms). The enforcing agency for any Senate Citation is the US Attorney General.

3. Attorney Generals have repeatedly in past (and this case) said they would NOT inforce a citation when EP is invoked.

4. The Senate isn't interested in solving this issue – just continuing to play-out the political smear game. If the Senate WERE serious – they would file a suit in Federal Court to challenge the President invoking EP.

Nice way to waste tax-dollars Mr Leahy!! No wonder 80% of Americans think you're worthless. You're only pandering to the far-left base just prior to elections. Go ahead and keep ignoring the men/women in Iraq who need to be paid or the crisis of Illegal immigration.

Basically the Administration used the Patriot Act to get a bit more power regarding US Attorneys, immediately abused that power, and got caught doing so.

Sure, it is a fact that every US President appoints Attorneys who are professionals, often prosecutors who, are friendly to that President's way of thinking. But basically of the pool of people who can do the job, a President has picked people who are more likely to be friendly to his philosophy. Okay, fine, sure, every President has done that much. The thing is though, long as the guys are qualified the system still works. The X's, for example might might turn their eyes more toward way Y's are doing, but 1) if faced with obvious crimes by crimes by fellow X's they will investiage and 2) they will not make up stuff about the Y's out of whole cloth.

The Bush Administration, took this one step further. Bush Loyalty became THE factor which DEFINED qualification. The most qualified where guys who could most stick it to the Dems. This goes substantially further. It simply became a Loyalty contest. He fired his own guys to replace friendly guys with outright boot-lickers (thanks to the extra power boost from the Patriot Act).

Naming Post Offices.

In any case, did I leave anything off the scorecard?

Posted By Jonah, Boston MA : December 13, 2007 1:19 pm

Jonah,
Nice summary of bluders and improprities by this administration. I would add:
1. Destruction of tapes on Waterboarding.
2. Hiding NIE on Iran and promoting World War III or IV
3. Politics in vetoing every bill sent by democrats incl. Energy and SCHIP
4. Don't have any concern about Global Warmingand showing arrogance on their stand against signing treaty
5. Massive spending on defense programs ignoring social ones
6. Tax cuts for the rich
7. No concern for violent crimes committes by gun fanatics. No policy on gun control
8. Record debt 9.1 trillion
9. Misuse of executive priviledge
9. Secracy in hiding millions of e-mails from White House

Democrats don't have to do anything to make Bush look bad. He does that a great job of that all by his little minded, lonesome self.

But I remembered something else to add to the list: election fraud in Florida and Ohio in both elections that he "won."