yeah, and your dad marched next to Martin Luhter King. This man is a liar. , and he cannot be trusted.

if opposing war has become a democratic value, then i've never been more proud to be a democrat. republicans have strayed from the teachings of their lord and savior, whose sermon on the mount is completely ignored today by religious leaders and right-wing politicians. it's today's flavor of fascism.

The belief that the earth is less than 10,000 years old is based on the misinterpretaion of the Bible's creation story as a literal explaination of the origin of all things in the universe. The ideas of evolution and a 15 billion year old universe are based on the same rigorous scientific methods of thought and reason that made the computer you are using right now. The Bible is a book of wisdom, not a book of science.

AMEN: After reading, please tell me if Huckabee is not running from the wrong party:

"As governor of Arkansas, Huckabee dramatically increased state spending. During his two-term tenure, spending increased by more than 65 percent — at three times the rate of inflation.

The number of government workers increased by 20 percent, and the state’s debt services increased by nearly $1 billion. Huckabee financed his spending binge with higher taxes. Under his leadership, the average Arkansan’s tax burden increased 47 percent, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, including increases in the state’s gas, sales, income, and cigarette taxes. He raised taxes on everything from groceries to nursing home beds.

Huckabee answers these complaints by pointing out that he "cut taxes 94 times" while governor. True. But most of those tax cuts were tiny, like exempting residential lawn care from the sales tax. Some cuts reduced overall state revenues by as little as $15,000. On net, Huckabee increased state taxes by more than $500 million. In fact, Huckabee increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did.

On its annual governor’s report card, Cato Institute gave Huckabee an "F" for fiscal policy during his final term, and an overall two-term grade of "D." Only four governors had worse scores, and 15 Democratic governors got higher grades, including well-known liberals like Ted Kulongoski of Oregon, Rod Blagojevich of Illinois, and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania.

But Huckabee doesn’t just embrace big government in the form of big taxes. He truly appears to believe that if something is a good idea it should be a federal government program.

For example, having become health conscious while losing more than 120 pounds, he now calls for a national smoking ban. Because he believes that "art and music are as important as math and science" in public schools, he wants these programs funded — and thus, directed and administered — federally.

Huckabee is, incidentally, the only Republican candidate for president who opposes school choice.

He is the only Republican candidate who opposes President Bush’s veto of the Democrats’ proposed expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, and he is skeptical of most conservative proposals for entitlement reform.

Calling himself "a different kind of Republican," Huckabee rails against high corporate profits and attacks free trade agreements. As governor, he raised the minimum wage and increased business regulation. He says it is "a biblical duty" to pass more regulation to fight global warming.

Perhaps Huckabee’s only claim on conservative credentials is that as a former Baptist minister, he is more anti-abortion and anti-gay than the other candidates. In many ways, he has been running an overtly religion-based campaign. But even here, his preference is to increase and centralize federal government power.

On election night in 2006, 55 percent of voters leaving the polls said they believed the Republican Party had become the party of big government. Mike Huckabee is doing his best to convert the other 45."

Posted By Val Davydov, Agawam, MA : December 15, 2007 10:43 pm

As a Democrat I am happy that Romney shows how rediculous his comments are. A Democrat is a progressive party and if his Huckabee rival behaves as a progressive, good for him. Romney is desparate and is doing more harm talking about his rival and will lose his chance.

If Romney's idea of a good president is Bush, then I don't want to see how bad Romney is going to turn out to be.

jw, canadian,ok:

America is a free country - you are entitled to your own beliefs that the earth is billions of years old and that human beings were monkeys ages and ages ago. Contrary to your beliefs, I and billions of other people around the world prefer to believe earth was created by the divine force - God. Quit making your silly posts, you sound like a fool repeating yourself over and over again.

Is it true that Mitt Romney will be buying Clear Channel, a company who ry runs programming for most of the radio stations in the USA. That would be like Hillary buying NBC and then expecting objective news about her to be reported…. wouldnt that be dangerous for democracy?

Fact: If Romney were actually as genuine as he likes to believe he is, he would have insisted on such an apology from Cong. Paul a long time ago. One sign of a good candidate is that they're fair across the board. This is grossly unfair. In light of the fact that, just days ago, Huckabee publicly apologized to Romney for comments of his (Huckabee's) that were taken completely out of context and seen as hurtful to Romney, it's even more unfair. Call Huckabee a liberal if you like, but at least he is decent and just.

Hey RealityCheck. You said "you really need to educate yourself about the electoral process. Here is a brief summary: the GOP nominates a republican and a democrat…" Huh? I think I know what you meant, but you need a proofreader, so leave Elizabeth alone. She is right. we need less pandering to the party fringes and more common sense platforms that address the majority of Americans.

Hey John Long from NY, LEAVE RELIGION OUT OF IT. The only thing more alarming than your ignorance of the Mormon church is how much people like you insist on bringing religion into these political discussions.

When Romney says that Huckabee is like a Democrat. Maybe he is refering to the fact that Hucabee is truly a man of the people. Not a multi billionair in bed with the big corporations. Restore true democracy in America where we believe that anyone can be President, not just the super rich and connected.

Wow, it sounds like Mitt values the Republican party over the United States, the Presidency, or good public/foreign policy. Do we really want another politician that treats the Presidency like an exclusive club, which excludes ideas different from his own? Personally, I value the right decisions for the American people over keeping promises to "special" groups or clubs.(Can be read as special interest groups if you like)

Who is Romney to judge Huckabee? He is just part of Bush trumpeters. Calling Lou Dobbs. Why don't we draft Huckabee as an independent candidate? Even if I am a Democrat, I'll change party sides if Huckabee will be the flag raiser for the Independents.
Wanna bet Lou?

I am not criticizing Romney in accentuating his attitude to be that of the present President. Sounds familiar and we have to don our capes and start the same old fiasco again. If I am Bill Gates (sob) I will bet my trillions that Mitt Romney will never get elected, or even Rudy Giuliani.
Hip Hip Hooray…

Hey, "Reality Check":

Check your own facts before correcting someone else's. You state the "GOP nominates a Republican and a Democrat. Not two Democrats."

Uh, the last I knew, "GOP" stands for "Grand Old Party" — the Republican Party. They nominate one REPUBLICAN for president, one for vice president.

We should require people to pass a civics exam before entering a voting booth in this country. The stupidity evident in the threads on this site continues to amaze me.

I just know that Huck will be able to use his knowledge of the Bible to become a basis of knowledge to construct an economic plan. It would definately be better than someone who has 2 degrees in both Harvard and BYU, in both business and law, with top honors in both, along with numerous successful business ventures.
Afterall, Huckabee could hire the swift boat veteran guy to drive a swift boat to barter and sell Bibles to the Chinese, so that they won't just dump all of the trillions of dollars that they are thinking of dumping. And if they refuse, then another Huck supporter, Chuck Norris, could beat the excrement out of them to comply. This would be great. Then he could send some of those other supporters, like the old pro wrestlers, i.e. Ric Flair, to back him up. They could then sell cheese whiz in a can by the case loads, Red Man Chewing Tabacco, cloudy Arkansas diamonds, along with Nascar posters. Then we will be able to get more free trade and balance our trade deficit. This will definately get us out of our impending financial crisis next year. After all, the whole world will be charmed by Huck's "authenticity" of character that the common folk in Iowa and South Carolina are looking for. Well America, your finally waking up.

Please don't compare either one of these republican wackos(or any of the other republican candidates)to any democrat. As dems we may have our faults but the GOP is made up of nothing but corruption, hypocracy, & extremests VOTE DEMOCRATIC 08..

Not only does Huckabee sound like a Dem, he is also attracting my vote if Obama is not nominated for the Democrats and he is nominated for the Republicans.

Very slick critisim of Huckabee Mr. Romney. Two birds with one stone. You not only get a jab in on Huckabee but use the unstated/assumed assumption that just being a Dem/lib is an inherently bad thing to accomplish this. Romney's insulted Huckabee with a group attack on Dems therby injecting the subtext of "Dems are bad" into presidential political discourse. This sort of cheap, insulting politics is normally left to underling hitmen such as Rush, Hanity and Coulter. It belies despiration on Romney's part to sink to such cheap insults. This is the same sort of divisive politics that has torn this country apart. We need to deal with issues and not personal or group attacks. Americans are so tired ot it and the polls show it.

Once again neither one of these two know anything about forgien policy…What are they supposed to say about each other anyhow, they have to say something to get there name into the news paper…Does Mitt Romney sound like a name you can trust? He should talk about ringing gongs with gold phallics and traveling to distant planets when you die…Huckabee says women should be slaves to their husbands because jesus says so…You dont even want to know what the mormons to too their women…I dont think jesus really said anything besides peace and love and lets get along everything else was made up by the catholic church they even admit it…So these two are completley lost in a mythical land of methaphor that they believe is reality

"The truth of the matter is this president has kept us safe these last six years" - Mitt Romney

Since Bush became President, about 6500 Americans have been killed by terrorist actions or in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"During that time more than 40,000 Americans have died from the use of aspirin, 175,000 from gunfire, 156,000 from automobile accidents, 510,000 from alcohol use, and 2,500,000 from tobacco use. Tobacco company executives have killed 350 times more Americans than Osama bin Laden and his friends."
from
http://www.LiberalAndProudOfIt.com

I am more worried about people who speed on the freeway than I am about terrorism, which ranks considerably below aspirin in terms of its threat to American lives.

Bush has accomplished one of the longtime goals of Conservatives. He has bankrupted the federal government. Our government will not be able to properly address our needs and protect the country for decades, while we labor to work of the national debt. I suspect sometimes, in more paranoid moments, that the destruction of America's federal government was the real reason for the War in Iraq in the first place. I know that sounds paranoid (even to me) but some members of the Conservative leadership are very bright and very underhanded in their methods.

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. Obama also linked to an alleged influence peddling scandal and was nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.

YES A RISK!

GOPers fighting about who can do the best job of sucking up to the American taliban.
Incredible

Who cares what party the Rev. Huckabee is in, any man who thinks the earth is only 6,000 years old needs to be in a home.

Westboro Baptist Church LOVES and hearts Huckabee!

forum.hucksarmy.com

Geez. A religious idiot like Huckabee, a complete liar like Romney (Bush admin NOT an arrogant bunker mentality?)
Giuliani the thrice-married, hated by his own kids weenie who invokes 9-11 as if he did something more than allow the EPA to lie to citizens who breathed in the downtown air after the Twin Towers collapsed.
John McCain, probably the most sober-minded fellow, has kissed so much Bush butt, and defended absolute meanness like vetoing children's health care, is but a shell of his former self, bendable to whatever political winds will have him - moderate in 2000, far right winger in 2007.

Wow. The Democrats have elegance and intelligence in every one of their candidates. None of them is religiously crazed, none think Bush et al have done anything but a criminal, traitorous job screwing up this country.

Nice contrast for the voters.

All of the mainstream Republican candidates will say *anything* to get elected. They have no real stances on anything. To still be pretending like the war in Iraq is anything but an absolute failure is completely ridiculous.

Romney is right…if it smells like a democrat, looks like a democrat and acts like a democrat then it must be a democrat.

In response to Elizabeth in AZ, you really need to educate yourself about the electoral process. Here is a brief summary: the GOP nominates a republican and a democrat. Not two democrats. So, when a candidate is elected from the republican party, the base of voters want that candidate to represent them. See where I am going??? Huck obviously doesn't represent the base he is appealing to and needs to nominate him. How did you put it…that is right…why don't you leave the thinking to someone else. Zing!

I think someone should ask Romney about his churchs' view on blacks, which seem to be what no one is talking about. Before 1978, a black man could not even become a full member of the LDS church. I wonder how this man views, and will view other people of color should god forbid, he ever reach the post of President!

Bad move on Romney's part. The type of people who still think Bush's war was a good idea (and are even more deluded as to think it is working) are the same people who will vote against Romney anyway because he's Mormon. All he's doing is alienating the people who might have voted for him.

Not to mention this will come back to bite him hard in the general election if he wins the primaries. The surge working? Bush keeping us safe? It's like he's in some fantasy land.

Ridiculous. It is a sad day for American politics when one must choose loyalty to a political party over speaking his conscience.

I had posted the following the other day on one of the threads, I am going to post it again (forgive me). After reading, please tell me if Huckabee is not running from the wrong party:

"As governor of Arkansas, Huckabee dramatically increased state spending. During his two-term tenure, spending increased by more than 65 percent — at three times the rate of inflation.

The number of government workers increased by 20 percent, and the state’s debt services increased by nearly $1 billion. Huckabee financed his spending binge with higher taxes. Under his leadership, the average Arkansan’s tax burden increased 47 percent, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, including increases in the state’s gas, sales, income, and cigarette taxes. He raised taxes on everything from groceries to nursing home beds.

Huckabee answers these complaints by pointing out that he "cut taxes 94 times" while governor. True. But most of those tax cuts were tiny, like exempting residential lawn care from the sales tax. Some cuts reduced overall state revenues by as little as $15,000. On net, Huckabee increased state taxes by more than $500 million. In fact, Huckabee increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did.

On its annual governor’s report card, Cato Institute gave Huckabee an "F" for fiscal policy during his final term, and an overall two-term grade of "D." Only four governors had worse scores, and 15 Democratic governors got higher grades, including well-known liberals like Ted Kulongoski of Oregon, Rod Blagojevich of Illinois, and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania.

But Huckabee doesn’t just embrace big government in the form of big taxes. He truly appears to believe that if something is a good idea it should be a federal government program.

For example, having become health conscious while losing more than 120 pounds, he now calls for a national smoking ban. Because he believes that "art and music are as important as math and science" in public schools, he wants these programs funded — and thus, directed and administered — federally.

Huckabee is, incidentally, the only Republican candidate for president who opposes school choice.

He is the only Republican candidate who opposes President Bush’s veto of the Democrats’ proposed expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, and he is skeptical of most conservative proposals for entitlement reform.

Calling himself "a different kind of Republican," Huckabee rails against high corporate profits and attacks free trade agreements. As governor, he raised the minimum wage and increased business regulation. He says it is "a biblical duty" to pass more regulation to fight global warming.

Perhaps Huckabee’s only claim on conservative credentials is that as a former Baptist minister, he is more anti-abortion and anti-gay than the other candidates. In many ways, he has been running an overtly religion-based campaign. But even here, his preference is to increase and centralize federal government power.

On election night in 2006, 55 percent of voters leaving the polls said they believed the Republican Party had become the party of big government. Mike Huckabee is doing his best to convert the other 45."

White people in the South vote Republican in Federal elections and Democratic in State elections. Anyone that has ever resided in the South is well aware of this fact. It's fact but the reason for it is idiotic.

Mitt Romney states that he and Huckabee are "great friends", yet I have witnessed (first hand) the way his camp reacts when the two are scheduled to be in the same room together for a sound check… The Romney camp would not enter the room until they had confirmation that Huckabee had left. Does this sound like a "great friend?" I don't think so… take it for what it is.

Ummm, for all the bickering going on on this board, does no one realize that both of these candidates are in favor of continuing the war and spreading it into Iran?

Vote for some real change. RON PAUL!

I am a lifelong conservative and veteran. And Huck ir right about the "bunker mentality". GB is a man of good principals, but he has made many mistakes in his application of those mores. Huck as ideals, and they show. But he also is pragmatic whre GB was less so. His rise int he polls is legit, as is Obama's, and the U.S. is better if those two are the candidates.

I am glad that we're looking at Huck's platform a little bit more. He seem's like he's in outerspace a bit.

The thing that blows me away the most is his tax policy…I looked at it. My federal tax bill would be so much bigger under his 24% sales tax than under the current system. I don't make a lot of money and I would get no breaks for having a family, a home and other American-dream things.

Hucks a space cadet. I want a president, not a preacher.

Romney just seems more and more like a slime ball every time he opens his mouth. I sincerely hope that any of the Democrats wins this election, but Romney would be worse than some of the other Republicans. Huckabee is pretty much a dream come true for the religious right, and Romney wants to paint him as a liberal. Unbelievable. Hey Mitt: If you can't criticize the government, it ain't a free country! Or are you hoping to preside over a theocracy rather than a democracy?

Mitt said, "I'm afraid he's running from the wrong party.”
Well Mitt, you may be right. Maybe the conservative party has walked away from true conservatives like Mike Huckabee. You however just keep squealing like a stuck pig, due to all the money you have spent on your campaign.

Sad. This guy's dad - while I didn't agree with every one of his ideas - had some character. What a spoiled little pol. At least Huckabee stated a position and offered some rationale for it. "Was the war managed well, Mitt?" "Ummmmm…"

Mike Huckabee says what he believes. That's a big part of his appeal. Mitt "I was for gay rights before I was against gay rights" Romney says what he thinks will get him elected to whatever office he happens to be running for at the time. That's a big reason he isn't doing so well, despite all of the money he has spent on his campaign.

This man is as fake as a $3 bill

Take two zeros and guess what? They still add up to zeros!

I agree with Romney

This is exactly the type of party loyalty that has gotten us into the Iraq mess in the first place.

This just goes to show the ridiculous "team" mentality of American politics. One is supposed to blindly support people of their own party regardless of logic, reason and truth. If a Democrat had started this war, the 'pubs would be all over them for running a botched war and the dems would be hailing it. None of this insincerity is doing this country any good. We are not only living in a failed, shambled administration, but also the political system as a whole.

Yuck…go away Mitt and while you are gone, get an adult name.

Huckabee is a Liberal democrap running in the wrong party, get rid of him, don't vote for him, he was a baptist minister. He can't be trusted/

what a fool. Romney thinks he will score points and stem the huckabee tide by standing behind a criminal president who is the least popular president in the history of the country? Who advises these candidates anyway? They seem to think the best course is always to disagree with whatever their opponent says, regardless of how untenable the opposite position is.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall? Who's the best candidate of them all?

http://www.golden-lamp.com

"The truth of the matter is this president has kept us safe these last six years" Romney said.

He's darn right about that!

Joe Biden Joe Biden Joe Biden Joe Biden

In a time when a line has been drawn between left and right. Joe Biden got 75 votes to pass his Iraq plan. That is the kind of bipartisan leadership this country needs.

I'm beginning to like Huckabee more and more and Romney less and less. I think Romney is desperately trying to believe all the neo-conservative rhetorical garbage that spews forth from his mouth, but it just sounds so fake when he says it.

While I definitely dont agree with Huck on everything (obama 08!), I'd take him over Romney any day.

Wow. I never knew Romney was such a wuss. "Alert the media! Huckabee just traveled into the unknown world of original thought and I'm going to call him out!" To criticize someone just because they hold the same opinion as someone from a different political party is not only stupid, but immature. I would like to think that a person's opinion and integrity are based on who they actually are and not what their political party tells them. Why don't you just focus on your campaign, Romney, and leave the thinking to someone else?

If Romney really believes that President Bush has kept us safe for the last six years, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'll sell him.

That's right. Huckabee is the wolf in sheep's clothing. Riiiight.

Keep those gums flapping, Mitt. We know you've always been true to your principles!

Romney/Bush '08!

Funny, when Mitt was in Massachusetts he was acting a lot more like a democrat than some democrats around here.

Truth is, white evangelicals were in the democratic party. It was the party of William Jennings Bryan, and the party of the bible belt. The economic interests of most are with the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party whose main interest is protecting inherited wealth.

The Republicans were able to pry away the white evangelical starting in Nixon's time by appealing to their social mores, as well as their fear of women's liberation and black people.

The used and abused these people to achieve power and rape the middle class but they've done nothing for white evangelicals, and now they are telling them that they cannot choose one of their own as a candidate.

Huckabee is a liberal, he is into nanny-state, raising taxes, soft on crime, soft on immigration. He is running his campaign on religiosity which is hugely out of place. This isn't a religion popularity contest.