Comments on: Bill Clinton: I wasn't criticizing Obama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/ All politics, all the time Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:13:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Black Pride http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-244184 Black Pride Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:36:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-244184 Sorry Bill, but a Black female I took your comment to be an insult, and after super Tuesday I will register as an Indie. The Democrats have taken minorities for granted to long. We are no longer our parent's children where we will vote for Democrats no matter what. We are more informed and involved in the political process. Fairy tales do come true and it could happen to you because we live in the greates Country in the World. We can live happily ever after, If you believe. I will never allow anyone to tell my grandchildren anything different. I am from a famliy of eleven children, all went to college, and now are productive citizens, tax payers, and active in our congregations and community. The same goes for our children and my cousins and their children. This was our parents dreams and it did come true. So long Democratic Party. Sorry Bill, but a Black female I took your comment to be an insult, and after super Tuesday I will register as an Indie. The Democrats have taken minorities for granted to long. We are no longer our parent's children where we will vote for Democrats no matter what. We are more informed and involved in the political process. Fairy tales do come true and it could happen to you because we live in the greates Country in the World. We can live happily ever after, If you believe. I will never allow anyone to tell my grandchildren anything different.

I am from a famliy of eleven children, all went to college, and now are productive citizens, tax payers, and active in our congregations and community. The same goes for our children and my cousins and their children. This was our parents dreams and it did come true.

So long Democratic Party.

]]> By: adickerson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-235266 adickerson Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:55:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-235266 lst let me say ok we all know the buzz word by now! But, change for what? What has Obama done in his lengthy 2 years of political experience? I watched the last debate twice and frankly thought he looked "weak" and "small," constantly looking downward and letting John Edwards "speak" for him in rebuttal. Is this what we could expect from him when faced with the big global issues and the forces that want to destroy us? I don't know how many of us there are (democrats against Obama and Edwards) but give me the experienced, well-articulated Clinton and Richardson any day!! Yes, EXPERIENCE does matter in the world the next president will inherit. I totally agree with Michele from LA Obama needs to do America a favor and wait until he has some hefty experience behind me before he jumps out and makes senseless comments like "let's go invade Pakistan." Immature, Inexperienced, Weak in international affairs--all good reasons to say N O to O. lst let me say ok we all know the buzz word by now! But, change for what?
What has Obama done in his lengthy 2 years of political experience?
I watched the last debate twice and frankly thought he looked "weak" and
"small," constantly looking downward and letting John Edwards "speak"
for him in rebuttal. Is this what we could expect from him when faced with
the big global issues and the forces that want to destroy us? I don't know
how many of us there are (democrats against Obama and Edwards) but
give me the experienced, well-articulated Clinton and Richardson any day!!
Yes, EXPERIENCE does matter in the world the next president will inherit.
I totally agree with Michele from LA Obama needs to do America a favor
and wait until he has some hefty experience behind me before he jumps
out and makes senseless comments like "let's go invade Pakistan."
Immature, Inexperienced, Weak in international affairs–all good
reasons to say N O to O.

]]> By: Abm Habibullah Plano,tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-211227 Abm Habibullah Plano,tx Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:19:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-211227 People like me, who are Bill Clinton fan did not like when he criticised Barak Obama. We like Obama, the same reason we liked Clinton.. a massive change. He should have unbderstood better. Obama is not losing much when Clinton criticises him. In fact, it makes me more determined to support him. People like me, who are Bill Clinton fan did not like when he criticised Barak Obama. We like Obama, the same reason we liked Clinton.. a massive change. He should have unbderstood better. Obama is not losing much when Clinton criticises him. In fact, it makes me more determined to support him.

]]> By: Ajay Jain, Dallas, USA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-193234 Ajay Jain, Dallas, USA Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:51:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-193234 So what! Bill does not have to get defensive about his comments, language, remarks on Charlie Rose. There is no parsing required. Obama needs to be brought down from the pedestal. People should not be afraid to attack Obama. We can not be labeled "racist" for relevant attacks in this election cycle. Like Obama and Oprah are BARGAINERS and Bill and Hillary Clinton are CHALLENGERS. Thus Obama brought by his white mother and maternal relations is whiter than Clintons in the abstract! Obama has not struggled like any Black has or has he experienced segregation like any Black in the US has. Thus Obama does not have a single "Black" in his body. Through their politics, positions and staff hiring the CLINTONS are "blacker" than Obama with all his ex-Clinton aides! Obama may have the press honeymoon for a while but he can not get the nomination without greater scrutiny. And scrutiny we need. Operations Research on Obama is not a racist action but part of legitimate politics and campaigning. So what! Bill does not have to get defensive about his comments, language, remarks on Charlie Rose. There is no parsing required. Obama needs to be brought down from the pedestal. People should not be afraid to attack Obama.

We can not be labeled "racist" for relevant attacks in this election cycle.

Like Obama and Oprah are BARGAINERS and Bill and Hillary Clinton are CHALLENGERS. Thus Obama brought by his white mother and maternal relations is whiter than Clintons in the abstract!

Obama has not struggled like any Black has or has he experienced segregation like any Black in the US has. Thus Obama does not have a single "Black" in his body.

Through their politics, positions and staff hiring the CLINTONS are "blacker" than Obama with all his ex-Clinton aides!

Obama may have the press honeymoon for a while but he can not get the nomination without greater scrutiny. And scrutiny we need. Operations Research on Obama is not a racist action but part of legitimate politics and campaigning.

]]> By: Joseph Dowling - Hudson, OH http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-191803 Joseph Dowling - Hudson, OH Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:14:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-191803 If you complain that Obama dosen't have experience, you are the ones that need to wake up. You insult Obama voting record, yet Hillary's contradicts what she is campaigning on. Congress' approval rating is 11%, even less than Bush. How is experience in the Senate the only viable experience when it comes to voting for a president? A president should be able to help the country come together again. The congress is torn on partisan lines, and Obama is the best option to get this nation back on its feet. If you complain that Obama dosen't have experience, you are the ones that need to wake up. You insult Obama voting record, yet Hillary's contradicts what she is campaigning on. Congress' approval rating is 11%, even less than Bush. How is experience in the Senate the only viable experience when it comes to voting for a president? A president should be able to help the country come together again. The congress is torn on partisan lines, and Obama is the best option to get this nation back on its feet.

]]> By: Seth, Long Beach CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190759 Seth, Long Beach CA Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:06:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190759 I don't like the Clintons at all. I even said to people that I would drop everything and move to Canada if Hillary was elected--two families cannot rule our nation for so long, it's just too much. I support Barack Obama in this race, not because he is black, but he makes a lot of sense. He reminds me of JFK. Every "blunder" he makes at the debates, isn't. My dad asks why they call it a blunder if it makes sense. I guess "sense" is a bad thing in our government nowadays. Anyways, if he doesn't get it, then I'm voting ABC. Anyone But Clinton I don't like the Clintons at all. I even said to people that I would drop everything and move to Canada if Hillary was elected–two families cannot rule our nation for so long, it's just too much.

I support Barack Obama in this race, not because he is black, but he makes a lot of sense. He reminds me of JFK. Every "blunder" he makes at the debates, isn't. My dad asks why they call it a blunder if it makes sense. I guess "sense" is a bad thing in our government nowadays. Anyways, if he doesn't get it, then I'm voting ABC.

Anyone
But
Clinton

]]> By: Mario Uy Streamwood IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190652 Mario Uy Streamwood IL Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:43:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190652 Oh come on guys. I vote for seeing Bill and Hillary again in the White House. It would be good for entertainment for the next four years. You guys forgot how much fun we had when Bill was in the White House? Just think about that for a moment. I love it. Just like the Brits, they have the royal family. We have the Clintons. Go America! Oh come on guys. I vote for seeing Bill and Hillary again in the White House. It would be good for entertainment for the next four years. You guys forgot how much fun we had when Bill was in the White House? Just think about that for a moment. I love it. Just like the Brits, they have the royal family. We have the Clintons. Go America!

]]> By: Ben, New York, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190571 Ben, New York, NY Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:34:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190571 What this should help some folks see is that Obama is the one you'd want on the wall in a time of national crisis or uncertainty. The one who would surround himself with exceptional talents and make reasoned decisions under trying circumstances. This campaign has worked well to demonstrate his tranquility and focus while working at the vortex of a brutal and sometimes chaotic campaign. Jack Kennedy was all of 46 when the Soviets began assembling missiles in Cuba. His intuitive sense of the world and of himself, gained in part from his years abroad as a young man, made this country immeasurably safer during those very challenging times. Obama's character, too, was forged in adversity--he had to find his own bearings at an early age and learn how to navigate difficult waters in strange places, oftentimes without the privilege of a parent's guiding hand. Intangibles, yes. But they add up to a man who knows his capabilities and limitations well, who is comfortable sifting through discordant views and opinions, and who is sufficiently at ease with himself to make firm decisions that might be unpopular in some sectors but ultimately in the best interests of the nation. That's exactly the guy you want on the wall. I'd ask any constituent who has put their trust in Obama if his tenure as either an Illinois State Senator or now a U.S. Senator has proven "a roll of the dice"--whether his success as a legislator, his vision, or even his longevity as an elected has simply been a matter of happenstance and good luck or perhaps a function of his character, courage, and leadership. And then I'd ask a New York voter if they felt Senator Clinton's vote to authorize George Bush to go to war with a Iraq was a carefully reasoned decision or a "roll of the dice." To this New Yorker, it was indeed a roll of the dice. That's why Obama--and not Clinton and not Edwards--is the guy I want on that wall. What this should help some folks see is that Obama is the one you'd want on the wall in a time of national crisis or uncertainty. The one who would surround himself with exceptional talents and make reasoned decisions under trying circumstances. This campaign has worked well to demonstrate his tranquility and focus while working at the vortex of a brutal and sometimes chaotic campaign. Jack Kennedy was all of 46 when the Soviets began assembling missiles in Cuba. His intuitive sense of the world and of himself, gained in part from his years abroad as a young man, made this country immeasurably safer during those very challenging times. Obama's character, too, was forged in adversity–he had to find his own bearings at an early age and learn how to navigate difficult waters in strange places, oftentimes without the privilege of a parent's guiding hand. Intangibles, yes. But they add up to a man who knows his capabilities and limitations well, who is comfortable sifting through discordant views and opinions, and who is sufficiently at ease with himself to make firm decisions that might be unpopular in some sectors but ultimately in the best interests of the nation. That's exactly the guy you want on the wall.

I'd ask any constituent who has put their trust in Obama if his tenure as either an Illinois State Senator or now a U.S. Senator has proven "a roll of the dice"–whether his success as a legislator, his vision, or even his longevity as an elected has simply been a matter of happenstance and good luck or perhaps a function of his character, courage, and leadership. And then I'd ask a New York voter if they felt Senator Clinton's vote to authorize George Bush to go to war with a Iraq was a carefully reasoned decision or a "roll of the dice." To this New Yorker, it was indeed a roll of the dice. That's why Obama–and not Clinton and not Edwards–is the guy I want on that wall.

]]> By: Long Legs Coral Springs http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190570 Long Legs Coral Springs Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:34:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190570 At least I heard a few good points as I read through all of these attacks. JP in NYC you should google: 911 mysteries Demolition Recut listen closely to the words that are said then tell me you don't think Rudy knew the attacks were going to happen. Better yet you should come to Coral Springs and let me show you where all the Mohammed Atta and Waleed al Shehri sitings were. In case you did not know they were Terrorists on Flight 11, then I'll ask you if you do not think the house that was bought a few years before 9/11/01, that Bush ignored my warning. I contacted Senator Clinton and she sent the FBI. I was told it would take a few years to take care of! Bill Wattenburg are you queer and jelous you would not get a chance or did you dress up as a woman that is how you know what he did? W. Artis---George W. is a Republican, he did not have the experience, now you should keep walking backwards until you see where your perception went wrong. Finally I want to point something out. Those who thought that when O'bama said he was looking to get advice from Hillary---only shows he is not ready to be President. Besides here is a good figure of speech to think about "Why choose the milk when you can get the cow!" In other words why choose O'bama when he needs Hillary's advice on Foreign Policy, why not just hire Hillary and skip the middle person? At least I heard a few good points as I read through all of these attacks. JP in NYC you should google: 911 mysteries Demolition Recut listen closely to the words that are said then tell me you don't think Rudy knew the attacks were going to happen. Better yet you should come to Coral Springs and let me show you where all the Mohammed Atta and Waleed al Shehri sitings were. In case you did not know they were Terrorists on Flight 11, then I'll ask you if you do not think the house that was bought a few years before 9/11/01, that Bush ignored my warning. I contacted Senator Clinton and she sent the FBI. I was told it would take a few years to take care of!
Bill Wattenburg are you queer and jelous you would not get a chance or did you dress up as a woman that is how you know what he did?
W. Artis-George W. is a Republican, he did not have the experience, now you should keep walking backwards until you see where your perception went wrong.
Finally I want to point something out. Those who thought that when O'bama said he was looking to get advice from Hillary-only shows he is not ready to be President. Besides here is a good figure of speech to think about "Why choose the milk when you can get the cow!" In other words why choose O'bama when he needs Hillary's advice on Foreign Policy, why not just hire Hillary and skip the middle person?

]]> By: Brent, Las Vegas, Nevada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190461 Brent, Las Vegas, Nevada Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:59:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190461 It is beyond me why any democrat would support Hillary. She voted for both the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act, two things that democrates are supposedly unified in their opposition towards. In addition, if she does become the democratic nominee, prepare yourselves for the most acrimonious and divisive election in U.S. history. It is beyond me why any democrat would support Hillary. She voted for both the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act, two things that democrates are supposedly unified in their opposition towards. In addition, if she does become the democratic nominee, prepare yourselves for the most acrimonious and divisive election in U.S. history.

]]> By: P Brown, OKC OK http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190248 P Brown, OKC OK Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:59:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190248 Liar, liar, pants on fire... Liar, liar, pants on fire...

]]> By: Steve, Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190136 Steve, Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:09:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190136 As a Canadian that has followed the political scene in the US for many years I find it amazing that Americans cannot see through the Clinton's facade. They have been the most mean sprited, unethical and immoral couple to emerge on the political horizon in at least 100 years. Why can't the American people see through their phoneyness. Bill Clinton made the White House the laughing stock of the world, while Hillary Clinton demonstrated that she would trade her dignity and self worth for power. As a Canadian that has followed the political scene in the US for many years I find it amazing that Americans cannot see through the Clinton's facade.

They have been the most mean sprited, unethical and immoral couple to emerge on the political horizon in at least 100 years.

Why can't the American people see through their phoneyness. Bill Clinton made the White House the laughing stock of the world, while Hillary Clinton demonstrated that she would trade her dignity and self worth for power.

]]> By: james, newport, Ky http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190118 james, newport, Ky Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:55:48 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190118 Is the Clinton News Network still trying to get mileage out of this story? Look at all of the stories on the ticker, most of them are about Bill or Hillary. What a joke! Bill was, is, and will always be a pathological lier for political expediency. Case closed, Mr. Attorney. Is the Clinton News Network still trying to get mileage out of this story? Look at all of the stories on the ticker, most of them are about Bill or Hillary. What a joke!
Bill was, is, and will always be a pathological lier for political expediency. Case closed, Mr. Attorney.

]]> By: georgia,atlata http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190102 georgia,atlata Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:49:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190102 you all obama's followers will be surprised on january 3 08.HRC will pull this thing off. She is going all the way. We need this women to bring back prosperity in this country. I am impressed with Obama move but I am not goint to vote somebody that I know in advance cannot win . The right wind is pushing for him because they are scared of HRC. Go wash Foxnews then you will understand. Carl Rove Bush's top adviser is telling Obama how to beat HRC. Obama and Edwards started the dirty campagn.But, Obama and Edward are going after each othe now. You know why,Game is over, who will try to be in second position.I thing Obama will come in third place in Iowa.DEJA VU. you all obama's followers will be surprised on january 3 08.HRC will pull this thing off. She is going all the way. We need this women to bring back prosperity in this country. I am impressed with Obama move but I am not goint to vote somebody that I know in advance cannot win . The right wind is pushing for him because they are scared of HRC. Go wash Foxnews then you will understand. Carl Rove Bush's top adviser is telling Obama how to beat HRC. Obama and Edwards started the dirty campagn.But, Obama and Edward are going after each othe now. You know why,Game is over, who will try to be in second position.I thing Obama will come in third place in Iowa.DEJA VU.

]]> By: Rosie, NYC, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190090 Rosie, NYC, NY Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:43:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-190090 What else do you expect from o'le Bill boy? Here is a disbarred lawyer/disgraced former president who has lied under oath with no scruples. What makes you think that he will not lie when given the chance to get away with it? Seriously.. the Clintons wants America to foot the bill because Bill cheated on her. Folks, let’s all cheat on our partners and promise them the Presidency as a consolation price when they threaten to leave us, and then make the American people pay for our lust by voting our partners in office. When we realize that the American people is not buying in, let’s train them to cry to get the American people to vote for them out of pity… What else do you expect from o'le Bill boy? Here is a disbarred lawyer/disgraced former president who has lied under oath with no scruples. What makes you think that he will not lie when given the chance to get away with it?

Seriously.. the Clintons wants America to foot the bill because Bill cheated on her.

Folks, let’s all cheat on our partners and promise them the Presidency as a consolation price when they threaten to leave us, and then make the American people pay for our lust by voting our partners in office.

When we realize that the American people is not buying in, let’s train them to cry to get the American people to vote for them out of pity…

]]> By: The Great William Wallace is Ten Feet Tall... http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189982 The Great William Wallace is Ten Feet Tall... Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:52:57 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189982 Hey Bill... close but no cigar. Hey Bill... close but no cigar.

]]> By: B, Gainesville, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189976 B, Gainesville, FL Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:50:31 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189976 As an Obama supporter, I fully understand that Obama has the least political experience in the bunch. I also appreciate Hillary's recent Senate experience in NY, and what she's done for the people of NY. With that said, I think Obama ran for president now because he recognizes that this is the RIGHT time for sweeping change. We can do things incrementally--and possibly not enough (by electing a "status quo" lifelong politician) or we can make sweeping changes in our perspective as Americans--and changes in how the world sees us. Obama knows that his message and abilities are most poignant in today's atmosphere. It's not arrogance--it's a realistic recognition of the environment and of what messages the people need to hear. That recognition in and of itself demonstrates his ability to lead. So much of being president is about appearances, representing the USA to the world, and bringing about change via legislation. I think Obama has all the experience he needs to accomplish that, and I'm backing him 100%. Do I dislike Hillary? Absolutely not. It's difficult being a woman on the public stage considering the double standards that are set. With that said, I still feel better about Obama, in both my heart and in my head. As an Obama supporter, I fully understand that Obama has the least political experience in the bunch. I also appreciate Hillary's recent Senate experience in NY, and what she's done for the people of NY.

With that said, I think Obama ran for president now because he recognizes that this is the RIGHT time for sweeping change. We can do things incrementally–and possibly not enough (by electing a "status quo" lifelong politician) or we can make sweeping changes in our perspective as Americans–and changes in how the world sees us. Obama knows that his message and abilities are most poignant in today's atmosphere. It's not arrogance–it's a realistic recognition of the environment and of what messages the people need to hear. That recognition in and of itself demonstrates his ability to lead.

So much of being president is about appearances, representing the USA to the world, and bringing about change via legislation. I think Obama has all the experience he needs to accomplish that, and I'm backing him 100%. Do I dislike Hillary? Absolutely not. It's difficult being a woman on the public stage considering the double standards that are set. With that said, I still feel better about Obama, in both my heart and in my head.

]]> By: B. Ambrose http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189906 B. Ambrose Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:21:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189906 The only person who can allow the false and deceitful strategy to continue the Clinton Monarchy is the American People.To compare Obama with the current President is an injustice to Obama who was an honor student as opposed to our current Presdent who did not achieve such a level. Being a President of the Harvard Law Review while a student shows unrivalled potential, further,having the vision and seeing the ill effects of war are visions....what else do the doubting Thomases need to envision a man with great promise for this land. If you are so short sighted to recognize talent ..where do you have the guts to attempt to evaluate it. Hide, your ignorance, and be quiet. Obama 08!!!!!!! The only person who can allow the false and deceitful strategy to continue the Clinton Monarchy is the American People.To compare Obama with the current President is an injustice to Obama who was an honor student as opposed to our current Presdent who did not achieve such a level. Being a President of the Harvard Law Review while a student shows unrivalled potential, further,having the vision and seeing the ill effects of war are visions....what else do the doubting Thomases need to envision a man with great promise for this land. If you are so short sighted to recognize talent ..where do you have the guts to attempt to evaluate it. Hide, your ignorance, and be quiet. Obama 08!!!!!!!

]]> By: JP, NYC NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189905 JP, NYC NY Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:21:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189905 Expose Hilary for what she really is, an agent of a foreign government. and her participation at the inside job of sept 11 is well known. DR. RON PAUL - check out the youtube videos, and see if Barack can hold a candle up to Ron Paul. Dr. Paul has more google hits than hilary and barack combined. Y'all should see the crowds getting behind Dr. Paul. Expose Hilary for what she really is, an agent of a foreign government. and her participation at the inside job of sept 11 is well known.

DR. RON PAUL – check out the youtube videos, and see if Barack can hold a candle up to Ron Paul. Dr. Paul has more google hits than hilary and barack combined. Y'all should see the crowds getting behind Dr. Paul.

]]> By: donna L. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189770 donna L. Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:40:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189770 Rikyrah posted this in the comments section of Jack and Jill -- she this statement posted on daily kos and it is brilliant: "bell hooks, in one of her many brilliant writings, said "Beware the liberal walking beside you." I understood the meaning of the words clearly enough when I studied hooks a decade ago, but I was living in Canada then, and didn't understand the raw guts of the thing. Now I do. The academic term for what Hillary, Kerrey et al (including the media) are doing is reinscription - the reinscribing of racial stereotypes. That's what the "just saying what other people are going to say!" thing is called. Think of it as drumming racism into our heads so it stays there. Here's another one - "I'm just describing reality, the way things really are." Bob Kerrey's "I meant it in a good way" comment is classic. It's like "Jews are good with money." (Kerrey actually lied tonight, by the way, in saying that Obama attended a secular madrassa. There is no such thing, as he well knows. But he wanted the word madrassa in there.) They're trying to make us fear Obama on a subconscious level, so we hesitate, so we "feel" that there is something that just doesn’t "feel" right.... And they're trying to make Democrats fear the big, bad xenophobic Republicans. But Conservatives have no monopoly on xenophobia. hooks warned against liberals for good reason. There is power in feeling oneself to be "one of the good guys." We like that. We like to think that those other guys are racist, but we're not. We’re the heroes! We like black people! We want black people to get ahead! Alas, we don't want them to get ahead of us. Subconsciously, we "feel" that Obama should know his place. We'll march beside, him but heaven forbid he leads! We’re being nice to him, he should respect that and know his place. These are feelings, not thoughts. It's all about how many degrees of difference there are between us and the "other" that we perceive. White males still rule this country, much more than we know. It's all about the mind. White females are one step removed from the white male subject, and Hillary has her own difficulties on that score. But black men are further away, because race is even more different than gender, and blackness creates even more fear in white men than femaleness. It's all about power and fear. We fear what is different, and we can’t grant power to that which we fear. The Clintons, more ruthless than Karl Rove in his own wet dreams, are capitalizing on that fear." Rikyrah posted this in the comments section of Jack and Jill - she this statement posted on daily kos and it is brilliant:

"bell hooks, in one of her many brilliant writings, said "Beware the liberal walking beside you." I understood the meaning of the words clearly enough when I studied hooks a decade ago, but I was living in Canada then, and didn't understand the raw guts of the thing.

Now I do.

The academic term for what Hillary, Kerrey et al (including the media) are doing is reinscription – the reinscribing of racial stereotypes. That's what the "just saying what other people are going to say!" thing is called. Think of it as drumming racism into our heads so it stays there. Here's another one – "I'm just describing reality, the way things really are." Bob Kerrey's "I meant it in a good way" comment is classic. It's like "Jews are good with money." (Kerrey actually lied tonight, by the way, in saying that Obama attended a secular madrassa. There is no such thing, as he well knows. But he wanted the word madrassa in there.)

They're trying to make us fear Obama on a subconscious level, so we hesitate, so we "feel" that there is something that just doesn’t "feel" right....

And they're trying to make Democrats fear the big, bad xenophobic Republicans.

But Conservatives have no monopoly on xenophobia.

hooks warned against liberals for good reason. There is power in feeling oneself to be "one of the good guys." We like that. We like to think that those other guys are racist, but we're not. We’re the heroes! We like black people! We want black people to get ahead!

Alas, we don't want them to get ahead of us. Subconsciously, we "feel" that Obama should know his place. We'll march beside, him but heaven forbid he leads! We’re being nice to him, he should respect that and know his place. These are feelings, not thoughts.

It's all about how many degrees of difference there are between us and the "other" that we perceive. White males still rule this country, much more than we know. It's all about the mind. White females are one step removed from the white male subject, and Hillary has her own difficulties on that score. But black men are further away, because race is even more different than gender, and blackness creates even more fear in white men than femaleness.

It's all about power and fear. We fear what is different, and we can’t grant power to that which we fear. The Clintons, more ruthless than Karl Rove in his own wet dreams, are capitalizing on that fear."

]]> By: Karen, Pasadena, California http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189706 Karen, Pasadena, California Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:22:16 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189706 How can Clinton say “If you listen to the people who are most strongly for [Obama], they say basically, ‘We have to throw away all these experienced people, because they have been through the wars of the nineties," when he heard in the last debate how Obama has all those old Clinton advisor's? Um, Bill, that question was repeated everywhere as the funniest one of the debate. Don't try to tell us that Obama is not having any experience. And for the record, what Obama supporters think is that Obama's community service, law professorship, lawyer, years in the IL senate, and Washington experience is way more important and relevant than Hillary's experience of being your wife. Many people don't consider 'first lady' to be much of a professional job. Its not like she was accountable to anyone. How can Clinton say “If you listen to the people who are most strongly for [Obama], they say basically, ‘We have to throw away all these experienced people, because they have been through the wars of the nineties," when he heard in the last debate how Obama has all those old Clinton advisor's?

Um, Bill, that question was repeated everywhere as the funniest one of the debate. Don't try to tell us that Obama is not having any experience.

And for the record, what Obama supporters think is that Obama's community service, law professorship, lawyer, years in the IL senate, and Washington experience is way more important and relevant than Hillary's experience of being your wife. Many people don't consider 'first lady' to be much of a professional job. Its not like she was accountable to anyone.

]]> By: May MacGregor, New York, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189704 May MacGregor, New York, NY Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:21:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189704 Ex-President Clinton's remark on Obama is not fair and dishonest during the Charlie Rose interview. He only mentioned Obama's senate experience but deliberately omitted his eight years legistrator experience in Illinois. Obama was a successful legistator respected by both side of his colleagues before moving to Washington. His experience is not short and not lack of substance comparing to Clinton's when he first ran the presidential race in 1992. Ex-President Clinton's remark on Obama is not fair and dishonest during the Charlie Rose interview. He only mentioned Obama's senate experience but deliberately omitted his eight years legistrator experience in Illinois. Obama was a successful legistator respected by both side of his colleagues before moving to Washington. His experience is not short and not lack of substance comparing to Clinton's when he first ran the presidential race in 1992.

]]> By: Honestly, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189696 Honestly, TX Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:19:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189696 Barack Obama is MORE qualified to be president than Bill Clinton, let alone Hillary Clinton. First requirement for a president, know the difference between the truth and a lie. Do not be self-deluded about reality. Both Clinton's fail that test miserably. Obama passes with flying colors. Obama has as many endorsements from current and former government officials and politicians as Clinton does. This is all PR spin to think Clinton is more qualified. She may have spent more years in Washington DC. But experienced is not the same as being qualified. Barack Obama is MORE qualified to be president than Bill Clinton, let alone Hillary Clinton.

First requirement for a president, know the difference between the truth and a lie. Do not be self-deluded about reality.

Both Clinton's fail that test miserably.

Obama passes with flying colors. Obama has as many endorsements from current and former government officials and politicians as Clinton does.

This is all PR spin to think Clinton is more qualified. She may have spent more years in Washington DC. But experienced is not the same as being qualified.

]]> By: Margie, Atlanta, ga http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189685 Margie, Atlanta, ga Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:17:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189685 If you want change then be wise and vote for Hillary. If Obama gets the nomination I can bet all I have that he will not be elected as president. Obama is a nice politician but he is not ready. I hate to say this but the country is not ready for a black president. Bush is going to leave a lot of mess to be cleaned up. It is not time for Obama. Hillary is the best person. Personally I would like to see a Hillary/Obama ticket. That will be sure to defeat the Republicans. Think about it, lets use common sence here and not emotion. I think most of the Hillary bashers are republicans. Democrats be careful. If you want change then be wise and vote for Hillary. If Obama gets the nomination I can bet all I have that he will not be elected as president. Obama is a nice politician but he is not ready. I hate to say this but the country is not ready for a black president. Bush is going to leave a lot of mess to be cleaned up. It is not time for Obama. Hillary is the best person. Personally I would like to see a Hillary/Obama ticket. That will be sure to defeat the Republicans. Think about it, lets use common sence here and not emotion.
I think most of the Hillary bashers are republicans. Democrats be careful.

]]> By: Leslie, Atlanta, Georgia http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189662 Leslie, Atlanta, Georgia Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:10:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189662 To paraphrase Republican Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas, Clinton's tactics are nothing more than "a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by [your critics] rather than hung from a tree. To paraphrase Republican Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas, Clinton's tactics are nothing more than "a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by [your critics] rather than hung from a tree.

]]> By: Robert, Dover, Delaware http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189611 Robert, Dover, Delaware Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:54:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189611 Would someone who is supporting Hiliary Clinton please tell me what experience she has at running this country. Because someone lives or was in the White House for several years doesn't mean they are qualified. Let's see -- she advised on foreign diplomacy, oh wait that was the Secretary of State. She advised on the economy, oh wait that was Allen Greenspan or Secretary of the Treasury. She advised on national issue, no wait that was the Secretary of the Interior. She advised on the military, no wait that was Secretary of Defense. She advised on legal issues, no wait that was the Attorney General. She advised on??????? Her campaign would have you believe because she lived in the White House during her husband's presidency that she has experience. Well, let's see, maintenance people have been in the White House longer than she has, does that give them experience enough to run the country? If she has so much experience, WHAT WAS BILL CLINTON DOING ALL THAT TIME????? Obviously, ignoring his advisors!! Would someone who is supporting Hiliary Clinton please tell me what experience she has at running this country. Because someone lives or was in the White House for several years doesn't mean they are qualified. Let's see - she advised on foreign diplomacy, oh wait that was the Secretary of State. She advised on the economy, oh wait that was Allen Greenspan or Secretary of the Treasury. She advised on national issue, no wait that was the Secretary of the Interior. She advised on the military, no wait that was Secretary of Defense. She advised on legal issues, no wait that was the Attorney General. She advised on??????? Her campaign would have you believe because she lived in the White House during her husband's presidency that she has experience. Well, let's see, maintenance people have been in the White House longer than she has, does that give them experience enough to run the country? If she has so much experience, WHAT WAS BILL CLINTON DOING ALL THAT TIME????? Obviously, ignoring his advisors!!

]]> By: Jeff Portland, OR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189607 Jeff Portland, OR Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:53:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189607 It's amazing how little regard people hold for Bill's honesty (or lack thereof). He lies all the time, I just wish one time he cold be completely honest about something. For all the talent and success he had as president, he is the last person in the world I'd want to date my daughter. It's amazing how little regard people hold for Bill's honesty (or lack thereof).

He lies all the time, I just wish one time he cold be completely honest about something.

For all the talent and success he had as president, he is the last person in the world I'd want to date my daughter.

]]> By: Virginia, Los Angeles, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189592 Virginia, Los Angeles, CA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:49:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189592 My grandmother taught me it was impolite to say ugly things...someone should tell some of the people leaving their input. Can we get back to the issues?? As an American, I have to consider what is best for America. I see a deficit that my great grandchildren will still be paying on for years and years. I remember feeling much safer when Bill Clinton was in the White House. (and I did not care then, nor do I care now about his personal sex life--it is not my business) I do not believe Obama has enough experience and not enough humility to serve us in the White House. I am not sure my vote even counts anymore, but I am going to vote for Hillary because she is the best person running for the position. I want to see America be as bright as it used to be, respected around the globe. I want to see us HONOR our fallen soldiers instead of pretending they never happened. I want to NOT hear everyone trashing everyone else, be it in politics or in everday life. I realize I am asking a lot, but I think we can do it if we all start thinking about what is best for America. My grandmother taught me it was impolite to say ugly things...someone should tell some of the people leaving their input.
Can we get back to the issues??
As an American, I have to consider what is best for America.
I see a deficit that my great grandchildren will still be paying on for years and years. I remember feeling much safer when Bill Clinton was in the White House. (and I did not care then, nor do I care now about his personal sex life–it is not my business)
I do not believe Obama has enough experience and not enough humility to serve us in the White House.
I am not sure my vote even counts anymore, but I am going to vote for Hillary because she is the best person running for the position.
I want to see America be as bright as it used to be, respected around the globe. I want to see us HONOR our fallen soldiers instead of pretending they never happened. I want to NOT hear everyone trashing everyone else, be it in politics or in everday life. I realize I am asking a lot, but I think we can do it if we all start thinking about what is best for America.

]]> By: Robb=, Milwaukee WI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189569 Robb=, Milwaukee WI Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:42:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189569 Why does Hillary get credit for all sorts of experience. Does first lady really count? I dont recall that being an elected position.. Why does Hillary get credit for all sorts of experience. Does first lady really count? I dont recall that being an elected position..

]]> By: John Anderson, Ashburn, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189559 John Anderson, Ashburn, VA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:38:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189559 "The dice throw is not a vote for Obama but a vote for Hillary. It is almost a sure thing that if Hillary were elected Bill would get caught with a "bimbo" before the 100 days of her administration. Then what? A White House divorce or do we follow the French example and allow Bill to have as many bimbos as he wants. We end up with na fine mess that distracts from running the country." Posted By Ken Hewitt, Surprise, AZ : December 18, 2007 3:25 pm Hey Ken, you are still one of those right wingers and Clinton haters who think that its okey for the president to mess up the country like Bush did on all the fronts: ecomnomy, foreign relations, social issues, constitution, and personal arrogance. I don't care whether Bill brings dozen bimbos in the White House and divorse his wife as French president as long as Hillary cleans up all the mess and brings prosparity to this country. "The dice throw is not a vote for Obama but a vote for Hillary. It is almost a sure thing that if Hillary were elected Bill would get caught with a "bimbo" before the 100 days of her administration. Then what? A White House divorce or do we follow the French example and allow Bill to have as many bimbos as he wants. We end up with na fine mess that distracts from running the country."

Posted By Ken Hewitt, Surprise, AZ : December 18, 2007 3:25 pm

Hey Ken, you are still one of those right wingers and Clinton haters who think that its okey for the president to mess up the country like Bush did on all the fronts: ecomnomy, foreign relations, social issues, constitution, and personal arrogance. I don't care whether Bill brings dozen bimbos in the White House and divorse his wife as French president as long as Hillary cleans up all the mess and brings prosparity to this country.

]]> By: donna L. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189549 donna L. Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:36:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189549 Its been racial slur and innuendo all along -- mostly behind the scenes and done by surrogates. Its all starting to snowball on the CLintons as it becomes painfully clear what they are up to. The Clintons are running a glaringly racist campaign. I don't for a minute buy that they are not racist bigots themselves just because they don't say it outright. When someone instigates racial and tensions using coded language or sneakily stirs the pot behind the scenes its even worse than an outspoken racist -- at least with that you know how to confront it. This "inexperience" meme by Clinton supporters and proxies parroting her talking points is often accompanied by chides of "grow-up" "stop whining" "he's so immature" -- what picture does that paint in your mind readers? The picture of a BOY -- and just think about how that word has been used historically -- its a put down, a degradation and emmaculization of african-american men. Obama is 46 yrs old and very accomplished. He is no BOY and its insulting to keep repeating this slur. This is no accident that they chose to use this line of attack in the manner in which they use it. They have been race-baiting, gay-baiting -- pitting the black community against the gay community. The Washington Post had a story how it was the Clintons who provided the press the information about McClurkin, even though the Clintons actively seek the african-american religious vote who hold similar views to MuClurkin. They just wanted to distance Obama from the black community so they could swoop in. They didn't care if they took a dump on gays in the process. Wise thing Obama did not oblige the Clintons. Further, it was the Clintons were the ones who first planted the false madrassa story and they continue to push it to this day. This is religion baiting -- a slur on muslims and a fear-mongering tactic directed at jews and christians. Its obvious they do not care about the well-being of this country at all -- they just want power. What kind of leadership is this? I have voted democrat since I turned 18 in 1975. This is the first time in my adult life that I have ever seen a modern democratic campaign pull these racist stunts. I will be ashamed of the democratic party forever if the we fall for this crap and give this horrible woman the nomination. Where are our democratic leaders when we need them to denounce these tactics? I want to hear from the other candidates just exactly what they think about what's going on. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton ever, or ANY democrat who endorses her candidacy. And I am quite sure I am not alone in this sentiment. Its been racial slur and innuendo all along - mostly behind the scenes and done by surrogates. Its all starting to snowball on the CLintons as it becomes painfully clear what they are up to. The Clintons are running a glaringly racist campaign. I don't for a minute buy that they are not racist bigots themselves just because they don't say it outright. When someone instigates racial and tensions using coded language or sneakily stirs the pot behind the scenes its even worse than an outspoken racist - at least with that you know how to confront it. This "inexperience" meme by Clinton supporters and proxies parroting her talking points is often accompanied by chides of "grow-up" "stop whining" "he's so immature" - what picture does that paint in your mind readers? The picture of a BOY - and just think about how that word has been used historically - its a put down, a degradation and emmaculization of african-american men. Obama is 46 yrs old and very accomplished. He is no BOY and its insulting to keep repeating this slur. This is no accident that they chose to use this line of attack in the manner in which they use it. They have been race-baiting, gay-baiting - pitting the black community against the gay community. The Washington Post had a story how it was the Clintons who provided the press the information about McClurkin, even though the Clintons actively seek the african-american religious vote who hold similar views to MuClurkin. They just wanted to distance Obama from the black community so they could swoop in. They didn't care if they took a dump on gays in the process. Wise thing Obama did not oblige the Clintons. Further, it was the Clintons were the ones who first planted the false madrassa story and they continue to push it to this day. This is religion baiting - a slur on muslims and a fear-mongering tactic directed at jews and christians. Its obvious they do not care about the well-being of this country at all - they just want power. What kind of leadership is this? I have voted democrat since I turned 18 in 1975. This is the first time in my adult life that I have ever seen a modern democratic campaign pull these racist stunts. I will be ashamed of the democratic party forever if the we fall for this crap and give this horrible woman the nomination. Where are our democratic leaders when we need them to denounce these tactics? I want to hear from the other candidates just exactly what they think about what's going on. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton ever, or ANY democrat who endorses her candidacy. And I am quite sure I am not alone in this sentiment.

]]> By: Lisa Hampton Newark, NJ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189544 Lisa Hampton Newark, NJ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:34:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189544 I am a 38 year old African-American woman who is very angry at the Clinton campaign for using race based tactics to hurt Obama. The Clintons are a bunch of phonies. They have used African Americans for years to solidify their power. But no more! I hope African Americans wake up to see the clintons for what they are and the Democratic establishment for what they are as well. They can be just as racists as the Republicans. Go Obama! I am a 38 year old African-American woman who is very angry at the Clinton campaign for using race based tactics to hurt Obama. The Clintons are a bunch of phonies. They have used African Americans for years to solidify their power. But no more! I hope African Americans wake up to see the clintons for what they are and the Democratic establishment for what they are as well. They can be just as racists as the Republicans. Go Obama!

]]> By: Bill Wattenberg http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189540 Bill Wattenberg Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:34:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189540 Bill Clinton might have BUILT the bridge to the 21st century, but now that America has crossed that bridge and temporarily lost its way, it is BARACK OBAMA, with his fresh thinking, freed of the current political constraints, with his willingness to explore roads yet untraveled, who is best equipped to get us back on the right path in the world after Dubya's disastrous presidency. As a lifelong student of American presidents and one who has spent most of his working life in politics, I have been following Bill Clinton since the late 70's, long before he came to the attention of most Americans. The REAL reason he did not run in 1988 was that it was too soon after the 1987 Gary Hart - Donna Rice scandal. In the wake of that debacle, it is a documented fact that Betsy Wright, the seldom publicized "keeper of the Clinton bimbo eruptions" and GOVERNOR Clinton's chief of staff, took him aside and presented him with a list of the hundreds (yes, hundreds, every bit as many as JFK, if not more) of women Clinton had slept with -- and just plain told him that to run in 1988 would be too risky politically, that he needed to let the dust settle a bit after Hart-Rice. All this stuff about his not feeling qualified to run in 1988 is pure bumcom. But it is not his extramarital sex life that bothers me --and by the way, he's still very much a player, even post-bypass surgery, most recently with a young woman in England-- but rather his pathological lying. And I say this as a strong supporter of the Clinton presidency and one who will remain so. But Hillary is too bound by the past. This is not intended as a slur against her -- in fact, I hear she is a very nice person, tho it is not coming across in her campaign -- but 2008 is what they call a watershed election, and she is not the right person to lead our country in these extraordinarily turbulent times. Barack Obama is a different sort of candidate, unlike any other in our history, and I'm nor referring to race here. Let's please give him a chance! Bill Wattenberg, Tallahassee, FL Bill Clinton might have BUILT the bridge to the 21st century, but now that America has crossed that bridge and temporarily lost its way, it is BARACK OBAMA, with his fresh thinking, freed of the current political constraints, with his willingness to explore roads yet untraveled, who is best equipped to get us back on the right path in the world after Dubya's disastrous presidency. As a lifelong student of American presidents and one who has spent most of his working life in politics, I have been following Bill Clinton since the late 70's, long before he came to the attention of most Americans. The REAL reason he did not run in 1988 was that it was too soon after the 1987 Gary Hart – Donna Rice scandal. In the wake of that debacle, it is a documented fact that Betsy Wright, the seldom publicized "keeper of the Clinton bimbo eruptions" and GOVERNOR Clinton's chief of staff, took him aside and presented him with a list of the hundreds (yes, hundreds, every bit as many as JFK, if not more) of women Clinton had slept with - and just plain told him that to run in 1988 would be too risky politically, that he needed to let the dust settle a bit after Hart-Rice. All this stuff about his not feeling qualified to run in 1988 is pure bumcom. But it is not his extramarital sex life that bothers me –and by the way, he's still very much a player, even post-bypass surgery, most recently with a young woman in England– but rather his pathological lying. And I say this as a strong supporter of the Clinton presidency and one who will remain so. But Hillary is too bound by the past. This is not intended as a slur against her - in fact, I hear she is a very nice person, tho it is not coming across in her campaign - but 2008 is what they call a watershed election, and she is not the right person to lead our country in these extraordinarily turbulent times. Barack Obama is a different sort of candidate, unlike any other in our history, and I'm nor referring to race here. Let's please give him a chance! Bill Wattenberg, Tallahassee, FL

]]> By: Jim - Tucson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189527 Jim - Tucson Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:30:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189527 all of obama supporter can cry your heart out. truth is Hillary is still front GOP front runner according to recent polls which is 45% and Obama 27%. Obama is not going to make the cut. Posted By LILLY,NY,NY : December 18, 2007 1:37 pm ____________________________________ Lilly, if you want to vote for Hillary in the primaries you better make sure you're registered as a Democrat. That's the one that starts with a 'D'. all of obama supporter can cry your heart out. truth is Hillary is still front GOP front runner according to recent polls which is 45% and Obama 27%.

Obama is not going to make the cut.
Posted By LILLY,NY,NY : December 18, 2007 1:37 pm

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Lilly, if you want to vote for Hillary in the primaries you better make sure you're registered as a Democrat. That's the one that starts with a 'D'.

]]> By: Tammy, Denton, Maryland http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189525 Tammy, Denton, Maryland Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:29:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189525 Oh yes you did, Bubba. And you best believe we're not going to forget it come voting time. Hillary's campaign has almost turned you into the male version of her royal nastiness. Or were you already Mr. Nasty and we just didn't know it? Everyone associated with Hillary's campaign is showing a dishonest side we didn't know they had: Bill Shaheen and Bob Kerrey just to name a couple. Bill and Hillary have resorted to pushing racial stereotypes and disparaging an entire religion just to win the White House. Bill, your association with Hillary's campaign has shown us the brand of politics you and Hillary espouse. We don't like it. We don't like it one bit. When you were in the White House we defended you when the Republicans went after you (now I see it was for good reason. My vision at the time was blurred by your B.S.). We stood by you and Hillary. When nobody else wanted to be bothered with you and Hillary, it was the folks in Harlem who opened their arms and welcomed a disgraced president and first lady. And look at how you now act. You call all black men who've ever used drugs drug dealers. You disparage the "Muslim" religion implying that all Muslims are terrorists. I never would have guessed a former Democratic president and a Democratic Senator would be the ones pushing racism and discrimination. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh yes you did, Bubba. And you best believe we're not going to forget it come voting time.

Hillary's campaign has almost turned you into the male version of her royal nastiness. Or were you already Mr. Nasty and we just didn't know it?

Everyone associated with Hillary's campaign is showing a dishonest side we didn't know they had: Bill Shaheen and Bob Kerrey just to name a couple.

Bill and Hillary have resorted to pushing racial stereotypes and disparaging an entire religion just to win the White House.

Bill, your association with Hillary's campaign has shown us the brand of politics you and Hillary espouse. We don't like it. We don't like it one bit.

When you were in the White House we defended you when the Republicans went after you (now I see it was for good reason. My vision at the time was blurred by your B.S.).

We stood by you and Hillary. When nobody else wanted to be bothered with you and Hillary, it was the folks in Harlem who opened their arms and welcomed a disgraced president and first lady. And look at how you now act. You call all black men who've ever used drugs drug dealers. You disparage the "Muslim" religion implying that all Muslims are terrorists.

I never would have guessed a former Democratic president and a Democratic Senator would be the ones pushing racism and discrimination.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

]]> By: AJ, IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189521 AJ, IL Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:28:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189521 For all the people out there blogging, let's be perfectly clear, being a POLITICIAN, is nothing like being a doctor. Anyone can be a politician, from the garbage guy to the CEO of ExxonMobil. Let's not quibble about political experience. If having political experience is the must have criteria for Democratic voters, then Richardson, Biden, and Dodd would be the front-runners. Bill doesn't have the decency and character to admit that he is criticizing Obama. Now to add fuel to the Hillary Clinton fire, Bill Clinton's comments about Hillary bringing in him and George H. Bush Sr. into her presidential administration to be Goodwill ambassadors has been trumped by George H. Bush Sr. as a 'NO GO!'. How stupid and embarrassing? Thanks for the lies Bill. I knew we could count on you and Hillary to not disappoint us. OBAMA in 08! For all the people out there blogging, let's be perfectly clear, being a POLITICIAN, is nothing like being a doctor. Anyone can be a politician, from the garbage guy to the CEO of ExxonMobil. Let's not quibble about political experience. If having political experience is the must have criteria for Democratic voters, then Richardson, Biden, and Dodd would be the front-runners.

Bill doesn't have the decency and character to admit that he is criticizing Obama. Now to add fuel to the Hillary Clinton fire, Bill Clinton's comments about Hillary bringing in him and George H. Bush Sr. into her presidential administration to be Goodwill ambassadors has been trumped by George H. Bush Sr. as a 'NO GO!'. How stupid and embarrassing? Thanks for the lies Bill. I knew we could count on you and Hillary to not disappoint us.

OBAMA in 08!

]]> By: Steve, Portland, OR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189519 Steve, Portland, OR Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:28:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189519 Well Bill, I gotta wonder just how much more dirt your wife has on you to get you to make a fool of yourself, (agian). Well Bill, I gotta wonder just how much more dirt your wife has on you to get you to make a fool of yourself, (agian).

]]> By: Mark Hammond NH http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189518 Mark Hammond NH Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:28:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189518 Posted By Joann, Cranston , RI : December 18, 2007 12:49 pm I TOTALLY AGREE!!!! CLINTON 2008 Posted By Joann, Cranston , RI : December 18, 2007 12:49 pm

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
CLINTON 2008

]]> By: Zievfret Heiligenstein http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189516 Zievfret Heiligenstein Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:27:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189516 Wait a minute, Mr. President. Your interview with Charlie Rose aired on Friday. The Des Moines Register published their endorsement Sunday. You said today that your comment Friday was based on a newspaper article that in reality wasn't published until 2 days later. Wait a minute, Mr. President.

Your interview with Charlie Rose aired on Friday.

The Des Moines Register published their endorsement Sunday.

You said today that your comment Friday was based on a newspaper article that in reality wasn't published until 2 days later.

]]> By: Steve Gilmore, Huntersville NC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189515 Steve Gilmore, Huntersville NC Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:27:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189515 Typical Clinton. Hit....run away...then say that's not what you meant. Only his wifie is far worse than he. At least his fake smile looks more real than hers. Typical Clinton. Hit....run away...then say that's not what you meant. Only his wifie is far worse than he. At least his fake smile looks more real than hers.

]]> By: W. Artis, Goldsboro, NC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189511 W. Artis, Goldsboro, NC Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:26:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189511 Looks like his words backfired. People took a chance on him, why can't they do the same for Obama. With all these so called "experience" leaders that we've had, why is the world so messed up now. Looks like his words backfired. People took a chance on him, why can't they do the same for Obama.

With all these so called "experience" leaders that we've had, why is the world so messed up now.

]]> By: Ken, San Diego, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189510 Ken, San Diego, CA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:26:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189510 Typically, newly elected presidents have an "adjustment" period. It's not easy being president. That adjustment period is usually about 1-year for good presidents and a bit longer for "okay" presidents. Bill Clinton was not really a good president until his second year in office, when he had his administration infrastructure in place and rolling. In todays day and age, we cannot afford to hire a president and give them a 1-year grace period; not with the war in Iraq, global warming, mortgage crisis, health care issues, etc. There is ONLY one candidate on either side of the aisle that won't need that grace period, who understands how to make things role on day one. This is no knock against Obama or McCain or Biden or any other candidate. It's just reality. This is the tangible experience that Hillary has that no one else has. This experience trumps Bidens wonderful national/international experience. This experience coupled with Hillary's national/international experience sets her a step above everyone else. Typically, newly elected presidents have an "adjustment" period. It's not easy being president. That adjustment period is usually about 1-year for good presidents and a bit longer for "okay" presidents. Bill Clinton was not really a good president until his second year in office, when he had his administration infrastructure in place and rolling. In todays day and age, we cannot afford to hire a president and give them a 1-year grace period; not with the war in Iraq, global warming, mortgage crisis, health care issues, etc. There is ONLY one candidate on either side of the aisle that won't need that grace period, who understands how to make things role on day one. This is no knock against Obama or McCain or Biden or any other candidate. It's just reality. This is the tangible experience that Hillary has that no one else has. This experience trumps Bidens wonderful national/international experience. This experience coupled with Hillary's national/international experience sets her a step above everyone else.

]]> By: Ken Hewitt, Surprise, AZ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189508 Ken Hewitt, Surprise, AZ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:25:19 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189508 The dice throw is not a vote for Obama but a vote for Hillary. It is almost a sure thing that if Hillary were elected Bill would get caught with a "bimbo" before the 100 days of her administration. Then what? A White House divorce or do we follow the French example and allow Bill to have as many bimbos as he wants. We end up with na fine mess that distracts from running the country. The dice throw is not a vote for Obama but a vote for Hillary. It is almost a sure thing that if Hillary were elected Bill would get caught with a "bimbo" before the 100 days of her administration. Then what? A White House divorce or do we follow the French example and allow Bill to have as many bimbos as he wants. We end up with na fine mess that distracts from running the country.

]]> By: Wanda Jackson Bronz New York http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189506 Wanda Jackson Bronz New York Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:25:00 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189506 If you believe anything Bill or Hillary Clinton tell you then you are obviously a person that likes to be lied to and taken advantage of. If you believe anything Bill or Hillary Clinton tell you then you are obviously a person that likes to be lied to and taken advantage of.

]]> By: A. Haupt, Drexel HIll, PA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189502 A. Haupt, Drexel HIll, PA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:23:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189502 This story is infuriating. Bill Clinton didn't say anything badly about any of the candidates. He's not backtracking at all. He said the same thing that he said when asked before. This story is a perfect example of sensationalist media -- making something out of nothing. This story is infuriating. Bill Clinton didn't say anything badly about any of the candidates. He's not backtracking at all. He said the same thing that he said when asked before. This story is a perfect example of sensationalist media - making something out of nothing.

]]> By: John Anderson, Ashburn, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189500 John Anderson, Ashburn, VA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:23:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189500 Its understandable for Obama supporters to get ticked off by Clinton's comments. Though Obama is very smooth and likeable person, the fact of the matter is he is inexperienced. Let the people in Iowa or NH decide how much weightage they give for experience. If they don't and elect Obama, Bill will be the first one to campaign for him in general election. But to endorse Obama or Edwards at this juncture from Bill is totally absurd! Get real folks! Its understandable for Obama supporters to get ticked off by Clinton's comments. Though Obama is very smooth and likeable person, the fact of the matter is he is inexperienced. Let the people in Iowa or NH decide how much weightage they give for experience. If they don't and elect Obama, Bill will be the first one to campaign for him in general election. But to endorse Obama or Edwards at this juncture from Bill is totally absurd! Get real folks!

]]> By: Robert http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189497 Robert Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:21:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189497 Oh whatever. Former President Clinton knows that the real reason he opted to stay out of the 1988 Presidential race is because of the rumors that he was having affairs all over town in Little Rock. So he made the decision to wait at least four years to give them a chance to settle down before he took the plunge. He is being disingenuous at best to suggest that Obama is in any way like him during that phase of his life. Oh whatever. Former President Clinton knows that the real reason he opted to stay out of the 1988 Presidential race is because of the rumors that he was having affairs all over town in Little Rock. So he made the decision to wait at least four years to give them a chance to settle down before he took the plunge. He is being disingenuous at best to suggest that Obama is in any way like him during that phase of his life.

]]> By: tina http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189494 tina Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:19:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189494 For those who did not watch him on the Charlie Rose show, he could not stop giving Obama back-hand compliments, condescension was dripping from his voice. His appearance was a desperate effort to stop Obama's rise in the polls. One moment he was calling him a political star the next he was implying Obama was an up start with to much ambition. His convoluted logic , was as obvious as his bias. Even Charlie Rose had to call him out on his contradictions, first it was you need vision to be president, no it's experiences, no it's experience in government, his most desperate moment came when he said "voters are rolling the dice if they vote for Obama", to throw that out their in the public with nothing to back it up, to scare voters, For a former president to rely on scare tactics, to talk negatively of other democrats, instead of giving valid reasons to vote for his wife are the actions of a desperate man with no moral compass. For those who did not watch him on the Charlie Rose show, he could not stop giving Obama back-hand compliments, condescension was dripping from his voice. His appearance was a desperate effort to stop Obama's rise in the polls. One moment he was calling him a political star the next he was implying Obama was an up start with to much ambition. His convoluted logic , was as obvious as his bias. Even Charlie Rose had to call him out on his contradictions, first it was you need vision to be president, no it's experiences, no it's experience in government, his most desperate moment came when he said "voters are rolling the dice if they vote for Obama", to throw that out their in the public with nothing to back it up, to scare voters, For a former president to rely on scare tactics, to talk negatively of other democrats, instead of giving valid reasons to vote for his wife are the actions of a desperate man with no moral compass.

]]> By: randy,new york http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189490 randy,new york Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:18:51 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189490 Bill need to understand that he is doing bad to hillary.well let me not forget.OBAMA 08! Bill need to understand that he is doing bad to hillary.well let me not forget.OBAMA 08!

]]> By: W, Boston MA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189480 W, Boston MA Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:13:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/bill-clinton-i-wasnt-criticizing-obama/#comment-189480 1980-Bush VP 1984-Bush VP 1988-Bush 1992-Clinton 1996-Clinton 2000-Bush 2004-Bush 2008-Clinton??????????? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE LAST PERSON WE NEED IS ANOTHER CLINTON OR BUSH!!! ANYONE BUT HILLARY '08 1980-Bush VP
1984-Bush VP
1988-Bush
1992-Clinton
1996-Clinton
2000-Bush
2004-Bush
2008-Clinton???????????

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE LAST PERSON WE NEED IS ANOTHER CLINTON OR BUSH!!!

ANYONE BUT HILLARY '08

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