December 22, 2007
Posted: 11:10 AM ET

Richardson: Clinton is trying to "duck and weave."

AMES, Iowa (CNN) ­– Bill Richardson is now the latest Democratic presidential candidate to accuse Hillary Clinton of drastically changing her position on Iraq this week. “She’s flip-flopped so many times, I don’t know what her position is. It changes almost every day,” Richardson told CNN Friday.

Richardson, who is running a distant fifth among Democrats in Iowa in most polls — with the state's first-in-the-nation caucuses less than two weeks away — has stepped up his attacks on the rest of the presidential field in recent days.

Clinton has long maintained that even after most U.S. troops have been pulled out of Iraq, some troops would have to remain there — and that they could be there for several years.

But at a town hall event in Elkader, Iowa on Wednesday, Clinton told a crowd she had consulted with military advisors on Iraq and that “I think we can bring nearly everybody home, certainly within a year if we keep at it and do it very steadily.”

Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards has characterized those comments as a policy shift. On Friday, Richardson agreed, saying that Clinton was trying to "outflank" him. "I’ve got an ad that says ‘are you going to get all the troops out by 2013?’” And so she’s trying to duck and weave.”

“I do know she wants to keep troops beyond one year,” said Richardson, “and I want her to explain her position.”

The Clinton camp disagrees with that assessment, and has responded to the criticism by saying the New York senator has always maintained a need for “small residual force” to remain in Iraq after most U.S. troops have left, and called for a slow but steady pace of withdrawal.

– CNN's Alexander Marquardt and Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Bill Richardson • Hillary Clinton • Iowa


Michigan Dem   December 30th, 2007 3:50 pm ET

I'm so disappointed in the american shallow mentality. I listened to the governor, hillary and barack last week in iowa. only bill richardson fielded people's questions; only bill has the vast experience to lead us forward. barack's talk was a joke! he has done nothing more than serve as a state senator. our problems are far too difficult for him at this point. the governor knows diplomacy; he knows what it takes to be a leader of the free world. perhaps americans are just too stupid to elect a real leader of the free world! shame on us!

steve   December 28th, 2007 11:05 am ET

Richardson has the experience and leadership skills to lead this country.

Check him out

http://www.richardsonforpresident.com

Ajay Jain   December 26th, 2007 6:15 pm ET

There goes your Cabinet position Richardson! or a Veep place in 2008/9.

Go Hillary44 08! http://hillaryis44.org/

R.G.   December 24th, 2007 2:46 pm ET

I feel stupid for winning life's lottery by staying in school, avoiding drugs, and working hard. If only I had been less fortunate, by dropping out and getting stoned, the Democrats wouldn't be robbing me to pay the losers who vote for them.

michael, london, uk   December 24th, 2007 10:42 am ET

Richardson is irrelevant …. but he's also right. Clinton can't seem to make up her mind on any issue — unless the poll numbers indicate is is the right way to feel, then she's all for it (even if she was against it hours ago).

The Clintons are the dirtiest politicians since.. well… the current administration. Glad I moved overseas… looks like she will get the nod and get to the general elections. 4 more years of lies and ugliness.

Charles in Salt Lake City, UT   December 23rd, 2007 9:17 pm ET

I think if I hear the term "flip-flop" one more time I'm going to hurl.

That means spew, ralph, toss cookies, throw up, vomit, regurgitate, blow chunks.

Find a new term to criticize your opponents with, PLEASE!

Mike Orlando, FL   December 23rd, 2007 11:41 am ET

Poor Bill, he was the one saying that the Democrats needed to distance themselves from negative campaign tactics. He's just trying to pick up a few votes. Good guy though, Go Hillary!

ZackaryQuack   December 23rd, 2007 11:04 am ET

Hillary is the most divisive candidate the democrats can choose. A guanteed continuation of the current geopolitical hate fest..

Florence, South Carolina   December 23rd, 2007 3:53 am ET

You are a foolish candidate, It seems that you are the one Flip Floppin from being a decent candidate to becoming a mudslinging candidate. What will you be doing as soon as you realize that Hillary Clinton will be the next President. You just showed your true colors.

Bill, Socal   December 23rd, 2007 3:26 am ET

Richardson is spot on here. The sad truth is the Clintons will say and do anything to be elected. Woman voters, I can see how a woman president would be appealing, but please do not make the wrong choice here. New polls suggest Hillary would get beat by both Huckabee and Giuliani. Vote Obama-Edwards '08.

Independent in CA - back to the drawing board   December 23rd, 2007 2:35 am ET

Appears if Senator Obama had his way - this would turn into another debacle like Vietnam :( How many remember watching the US military helicopters franctically flying out the last of the American diplomatic corps and the Vietnamese collaborators?

Don't get me wrong, I want our trops home yesterday as well BUT those in charge can't guarantee such sweeping promises to the American general public in such simplistic terms.

How fast the troops depart from Iraq and most of them go home depends largely on how much essential equipment goes along with the withdrawal, according to most advisors.
"How quickly can the military move its 160,000 troops out? What about the 100,000-plus contractors? How many of the military's 45,000 Humvees and other equipment should be left behind for the Iraqi Army or destroyed? Which of 64 military bases should be closed? How does the military protect its main route out of Iraq toward Kuwait?"

Withdrawal from Iraq would be far from easy. A large number of armoured vehicles would have to be moved to the port of Um Qasr or Kuwait (and await transport home). Other equipment might have to be destroyed or handed to the Iraqi army.

Here's a candid look at "what it really means to pull out of Iraq" by Colonel Douglas Macgregor (retired), military analyst:

http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2007/11/iraq-war-douglas-macgregor.html

Another look at Obama's voting PRESENT in the IL State Senate.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2007/12/6659_yesterday_the_n.html

"The NY Times discussed Senator Obama's penchant for using a quirk of the Illinois Statehouse to sidestep contentious issues that might jeopardize his reelection chances. Is it a dirty trick or a proof that he's a smart cookie who simply knows how to be an effective politician?"

Taylor Marsh, at the Huffington Post is certainly steamed at Obama about it (and at Obama in general apparently from the tone of the piece). She's pretty sure he's a wolf in sheep's clothing using 'PRESENT' votes to focus more on ducking responsibility on serious issues than on dealing with those serious issues :(

"…Obama is continually talking about Clinton being a 'triangulator,' as do many of the Hillary haters. People talking about her calculations. I don't agree with all of her votes, especially on some foreign policy matters, particularly her Iraq war vote, but also Kyl-Lieberman. But when she's pushed she votes and puts herself on the line. She never votes 'PRESENT' when it matters. When pushed at YearlyKos on lobbyists she could have pandered. She didn't. She also took the heat, including boos. She didn't back down over Kyl-Lieberman either, even though it cost her in grumbling. It's what she believes, with Wesley Clark and Joseph Wilson backing her."

"Obama got a pass when going after her on Kyl-Lieberman, even though he voted for similar legislation earlier in the year, but more importantly, skipped the vote that would have put him on the record. He also has the exact same votes as Clinton on Iraq, and when Senators Kerry and Feingold offered legislation on the floor to redeploy, Mr. Obama made a speech against it. Not to mention that he never held a hearing on his own foreign relations subcommittee. He also skipped the MoveOn.org vote too. How convenient it is just not to show up and be counted. It's a lot easier. But it's not more principled, no matter your excuse. It's triangulating. It is also quite calculating. Because what better way to hit your opponent than to duck a tough vote where she was counted, and you'd been counted months earlier, then rail against her because no one is paying attention to the facts."

FINALLY TO RICHARDSON'S LATEST POSTURING:
"… hell hath no fury like a potential vice presidential candidate scorned." ;)

GRACE   December 23rd, 2007 1:32 am ET

RICHARDSON HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN
CLINTON. WHY DON'T WE HEAR MORE ABOUT
RICHARDSON?

Bud BayArea CA   December 23rd, 2007 1:12 am ET

Bill Richardson you are in the most perfect position for this race to be President. Keep speaking up and saying what is true because it irritates the heck out of HRC. Keep sticking to your guns and being right because it irritates HRC. And keep standing tall and communicating to the fine voters in the US because it irritates her to no end.

Richardson 2008

John Halverson DC   December 22nd, 2007 11:41 pm ET

Did Richardson just wake up? where has he been the last year? people have already realized this months ago. I am glad he has finally caught up. Moving at the speed of Government.

pam Eugene OR   December 22nd, 2007 11:26 pm ET

Good for you Bill.
I know it would be great to be the VP of the US but you are a rare man of great moral fiber. I am really impressed. You stood up against the serial liar at dire risk to your future. I applaud you. I thank you for your courage.
Hillary is simply not able to be straight about anything. She has no concept of what truth is. What ever the opinion of the day is that is her opinion. She thinks we are so stupid and blind that we will easily accept whatever she proclaims. PLEASE America wake up. I am terrified this fraud will be elected. We would waste 4 years in total war in the congress and senate and accomplish nothing. HRC is a divider and is looking forward to fighting the Republicans on everything. She is not interested in compromise to move forward she is just licking her chops for a good battle. She is the worst thing that could happen to us!

Jon, Kansas City MO   December 22nd, 2007 10:06 pm ET

Bill who?

Jeff, BRLA   December 22nd, 2007 9:52 pm ET

Captain-Sky–
Two Words–Grammar, Punctuation. It was like reading something in spanish, I only understood the main idea, but the details were a little sketchy.

Also, blindly supporting Bush is a pretty foolish thing to do. The freedom to speak up is one of those freedoms that you R's often speak of, but it's the first to go when you hear something you don't like. Here's a quote from a true patriot:
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then.”

Judging by the way you write, you read very little. You should try it sometime.

Greg, Barrington, IL   December 22nd, 2007 9:39 pm ET

The classic mantra of the desperate: "He/She flipflopped!!" Saves one the trouble of formulating one's own strategy or position. Does this really work? Given the intelligence quotient of the average American voter (even among Democrats) maybe it does..

Jeff, Baton Rouge, LA   December 22nd, 2007 9:38 pm ET

BOO RICHARDSON! The whole field of candidates stinks. This election is disheartening for so many voters like myself. I think that Obama is the voice for the younger generation, but he's too green. I would never vote for a trial lawyer so the other viable Dems are out of the question. The Repugnants have little to choose from, because they care less about the Constitution than preaching from the bible. I'm all about morals and ethics, but come on, this crap is all about capturing votes in the slave states, oops, I mean Red States .

The young in America will have to live with the foul-ups of the Bush Administration and the bandaid that the next inept president will place on said foulups for the rest of their lives.

It's a scary time to be a young adult. My parents and grandparents' generations saw America grow and prosper and largely(not completely!) make a positive impact on the world, but the future is grim for my generation. We are at odds with two of our largest sources of petroleum(Mideast and Chavez-land)but corporate interests in the energy sector make sure legislation remains unchanged. We can't buy Cuban cigars, or even visit the island so near to our coast that, although closed, is a fairly transparent regime. However, the great American success story of all time, Wal-Mart, continues to keep the clandestine Communist China afloat by importing BILLIONS of poisonous plastic crap. Our manufacturing sector is going to crap because we care about the well being and safety of our workers and can't have a level playing field with third-world manufacturers who can make it cheaper by cutting corners.

At 27 years old, this is the third election that I've been able to vote in. Formerly liberal(as to not be associated with Bushtard), I believe the the Republican platform, in its truest form, promotes individual responsibility, individual prosperity, free and responsible markets, etc. Too bad all it cares about now is guns, God, and gays. The most fiscally irresponsible administration in history has blown up our deficit how much?

The first two times I voted "anybody but Bush", now I have to make a real decision. Ron Paul is the only candidate that I would even consider, yet he is chastised for actually knowing and believing the intent of the Constitution. The rest of them: I wouldn't spit i their mouths if they were dying of thirst.

AJ, IL   December 22nd, 2007 8:44 pm ET

Bill is right, unfortunately he is too late. Hillary's position on getting troops out of Iraq has been very convoluted. This was brought out during the Oct. 31st Democratic debate (in which Hillary imploded). Unfortunately, for Bill, he was too busy saying Obama, Edwards, and Dodd were "ganging-up" on Hillary at this debate on issues such as Iraq troop levels. Sorry, Bill. Its too in the caucaus game for Bill to start selectively target individuals on certain national issues. Obama and Edwards have already raised this Iraq issue distinction to Hillary.

I guess Bill found out he was out of the running to be Hillary's consideration for a potential VP.

OBAMA in '08!

Captain-Sky   December 22nd, 2007 7:59 pm ET

Do You Stupid A– People Know You Just Can't Start A Troop Withdrawal At The Snap Of A Finger,How About We Just Withdraw Every Single Troop Out Of Iraq And Say Let's Just Let Osama Bin Laden & Iran Take Over A Billion Dollar Oil Enriched Nation,What Maybe Do You Think They Will Do Forget About The US,I Don't Think So.All Of You Troop Withdrawal Experts,Has To Understand War Is Not Pretty,It Never Has And It Never Will Be,People Die Yes Our People To That's The Reality Of War Get Used To It.It Is Why The US Is The Only SuperPower Left.Because Our Military Has Fought For Over A Century To Keep America Free,You Can Believe That Crap Obama,& Richardson Are Shooting You If You Want,But I Gurantee You Those Troops Will Be In Iraq Until The US Has A Viable Solution.I'am Not A Bush Fan But At Least He Knows The Difference Between Fighting Until The End As Opposed To We Want Out Of Iraq,Guess What You Are Not In Iraq,And Most Of You Never Served In The Military,But You Have All The Solutions.Support President Bush He Is Your President Like It Or Not.BTW This Is Not Only Bushes Fault Whenever Those Building's Were Attacked,More Than 75% Of The Public Wanted A Quick Response,And Now That Those Building's Is No Longer On You Anti-War Mongers,You Want Troop Withdrawal,How About Asking The Military Troops What They Want For A Change,And Not People Who Know Nothing About Military Withdrawal,Except That They Believe That S–T Obama Is Trying To Sell The People Of The US,No Lapel For Me…Obama,No Hand On My Heart,Is This Getting Through To You Morons.

J. McKinney SW MO   December 22nd, 2007 7:34 pm ET

I can't believe ANYONE with any judgement at all thinks Hillary is a flip flopper. We sure don't need anyone who is incapable of changing what they would do, as the situation changes. We sure don't need anyone who is so hard-headed and "one-way" that they can't change when change is needed. Surely everyone realizes there is NO WAY that ALL troops can be out of Iraq in a year.
I am amazed at Richardson. I really thought he was wanting to be Hillary's vice pres., and I was thinking he would be a good one, but now he is attacking her stand on Iraq, and I am sure he knows better–that all the troops can't be out in a year. I don't know what happened to him, but he must know he doesn't have a chance of winning the election, and now he has screwed up his chances as VP, I imagine. We need Hillary!!

GRACE, SUN CITY CENTER, FL   December 22nd, 2007 7:18 pm ET

MY CANDIDATE IS RON PAUL….

BUT I WOULD FEEL BETTER INFORMED IF I
KNEW MORE ABOUT RICHARDSON. I WISH HE
HAD MORE MEDIA COVERAGE.

Bill, NY   December 22nd, 2007 7:17 pm ET

Who is Bill Richardson? Never mind. Don't really care…

Paul, Alexandria, VA   December 22nd, 2007 5:50 pm ET

Hillary voted for the war. Then, Hillary defended the war, even though she later claimed that she was actually opposed to the war from the beginning.

Over the course of the campaign, she has said she would end the war and bring everyone home; end the combat against nationalist groups but continue combat missions against Al Qaeda in Iraq; leave our new monster Embassy and all our new bases in place, while taking nearly everyone home but the thousands it would take to run and protect those sites, not pledge to get our troops out by 2013; and now pledge to get NEARLY everyone out in a year. That word NEARLY leaves a hole so big you could drive Bill Clinton's definition of the word "is" through it.

Hillary still won't tell us what her position is on Social Security reform; she has an everchanging position on Iraq; and she still hasn't apologized for her war vote or for her support for high-priced lobbyists to control Washington.

I'd have to vote for her against a Republican because they are truly crazy but will people really be inspired to vote for her and make the extra effort in the general? I doubt it. She's just another politician.

Obama '08!

jmaya, iowa   December 22nd, 2007 5:27 pm ET

Poor Richardson, no money to advertise and his campaign's best strategy is to hit Hillary and run. He made me laugh!

Hillary is the clear winner; Bill Richardson should have shut his mouth to get something. Hillary has the best strategy and plan to bring out troops home Mr Richardson!
Hillary '08

Kevin,FL   December 22nd, 2007 5:25 pm ET

ZIP IT BILL BEFORE YOU LOOSE YOUR SHOT AT BEING SECY.OF STATE

Brian, Syracuse NY   December 22nd, 2007 5:23 pm ET

To the Clinton campaign worker posting that Sasso article in every topic: Don't quit your day job! Hillary's going down in the primaries!

Travis Medford,Oregon   December 22nd, 2007 5:19 pm ET

If you want a decent candidate who knows foreign policy backwards and forwards and a candidate that all the other candidates like and admire and if you want a candidate who can bring in the crossover voters and win in the general election JOE BIDEN is your candidate.

Humgrad, Iowa City, IA   December 22nd, 2007 5:00 pm ET

I'm glad that attention is beginning to be drawn to the rampant flip-flops among many of the presidential candidates. With Sen. Clinton's ever-changing positions on the war, Sen. Edward's well-known switch in positions on the war, Giuliani's changes on abortion and immigration and guns, Gov. Huckabee's changes on immigration and taxes and fiscal conservatism, why is the media so obsessed with labeling Mitt Romney a flip-flopper, as though he is the only one? Isn't changing from pro-choice to pro-life a good thing? Did the media give Al Gore a hard time when he went from pro-life to pro-choice? Some elements in the media act as though Gov. Romney's supposed "flip-flopping" is a liability for his presidential campaign. Then isn't it also a liability for a host of others?

GO MITT 2008!

Nick Wilson, Richardson, TX   December 22nd, 2007 4:53 pm ET

Where are all these automatons supporting Hillary Clinton coming from? I really don't know anybody who thinks she's an honest person or anything more than the archetypal politician who will say or do anything to get elected.

Seriously, do you read anything about Hillary? She's in bed with her special interests as much as any Republican; she shared Bush's foreign policy until it became politically inconvenient to do so; she's far less experienced than Richardson, Biden or Dodd or even Obama (who has been an elected public servant longer than her); she's proven corrupt repeatedly over her time in the spotlight.

And why does everybody think that the fact that she is a woman is so important? We should be choosing people based upon their leadership skills, their competency and their honesty, not their chromosomes. Someday, the right person will be a woman. But this is one of the last female politicians in America I'd vote for.

If forced at gunpoint to choose between Republicans or Democrats, I would probably choose Democrats. But I will never EVER vote for Hillary, the socialist neoconservative - the worst combination possible. Sadly, most of the Republicans are as bad as her (barring Ron Paul.)

Dan, TX   December 22nd, 2007 4:45 pm ET

Clinton is not electable. Look at the head to head matchup polls with republicans. Richardson is more electable than Clinton.

Clinton supported going to war with Iraq and still thinks she was right to vote for war. It's bad to make that mistake, but it's much worse not to realize you've made a mistake.

Kevin, Eau Claire, WI   December 22nd, 2007 4:33 pm ET

I read this as "Clinton wears flip-flops to Iraq", but mostly due to lack of respect for Republican campaigners. Could equally be read as "Richardson disinformation campaign in full force."

Katherine, Chesapeake Virginia   December 22nd, 2007 4:09 pm ET

I wish the media would wise up and realize how much stronger Richardson and Biden are than Hilary and Obama. It is a shame that disgusting amounts of money must be raised and spent for the media to consider a candidate 'top tier' and 'front-running'. If equal attention had been given to all candidates up front, America would see the excellent qualifications of Richardson and Biden instead of the media smoke screen creations of their favorites. Both Richardson and Biden speak more clearly, articulately, and wisely about every major issue.

John, Richmond, VA   December 22nd, 2007 4:08 pm ET

Sorry Moe…it's perfectly clear that Hillary will side with Corporate America and do things like raise the minimum wage and increase entitlements, which would be a huge mistake, because then the costs would be passed to the consumer and taxpayers, further increasing the cost of living and sending the economy down for the working class. We need a candidate that will work on the root cause of the economic failure which is the cost of living being too high and unequal opportunity, not minimum wages being too low. She and Bill chose to support the worst program ever to affect American workers (NAFTA) over health care reforms. What makes you think their loyalty has switched to the middle class? Just what has Hillary accomplished during "her whole life" to help the middle class? Go check the record and see for yourself. If the American voters don't stop voting on emotion or gut feelings and start using their heads were stuck with these kind of politicians forever.

RuthieM   December 22nd, 2007 3:25 pm ET

He has to call her out if she's flipflopping, and she's flipflopping because it's only weeks before caucus. I'm surprised she hasn't said she'll have every single troop home by January 4, '08. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Andy, New York, New York   December 22nd, 2007 2:58 pm ET

Doesn't Bill Richardson know by now that Hillary Clinton will say and do anything to get elected? She backed the war in Iraq because it was something she discussed with her husband who also openly supported the war in Iraq. When the liberal and leftwing media had their field day roasting and toasting Bush over the suicide bombers and IEDs that slaughtered US troops to influence the tide of public opinion against the war and Bush, Hillary tried to shift position. Now that the war is winnable and Bush is looking good, the media are left to look for destroyed CIA tapes to make news or Dems showing up to block Bush from making recess appointments, and Hillary is left to find her way to the White House looking like a flip flopper. If Hillary gets elected, look for a marriage of convenience between her and leftwing media to turn America into a socialist state.

Bob, Alexandria, VA   December 22nd, 2007 2:51 pm ET

Ron Anderson:

Holy c***, you don't honestly believe what you wrote? Do you really believe Hillary's changing views are a reflection of new information that was withheld from here? Wrong…she is a poll reader, like her husband. When there was a concensus to depose Saddam, she was a hawk. When the war dragged on and the monday morning quarterbacks got their nerve to speak up when it appeared there was popular dissention, they altered their views. That was when these idiots, including Hillary, started justifying there NEW position on the war by saying Bush lied to them as well as to the American people. In my book, that shows a complete lack of character, conviction and backbone. Hillary would not be a leader with conviction…she would lead by referendum. Not something I want to see in a President.

Molly; Muscatine, Iowa   December 22nd, 2007 2:19 pm ET

QUOTING: (it will be Vilsack if Hillary wins the nomination as that would guarantee Ohio)

Perhaps you were referring to Iowa, as Tom Vilsack was a successful governor of Iowa, not Ohio.

As for Hillary's candidacy, I fear her presence on the ticket. Regardless of what Ivory Tower theorists may think, she is indeed a divisive force in American politics. Furthermore, her personal ambition is stronger than her committment to fair governance, in my opinion. She is far and away the most "hawkish" of the current Democratic field, and would be the most 'status quo' of those running for president.

Bill Richardson will not win the Iowa caucuses and his role in the campaign post-January 3rd will be as a running mate at best, Cabinet member most likely.

Rick, NY   December 22nd, 2007 1:46 pm ET

Wake up America. The possiblity of Clinton winning the White House means 24 years of control by two political families. If she gets re-elected that's 28. OVER A QUARTER CENTURY of control.

How is it that Vladimir Putin comes under so much scrutiny as he still clings to power in Russia. The SAME THING IS HAPPENING HERE.

But we have a democratic system here. Oh right. Skewed polls, biased media, illegal campaign donations, lobbyist control, spin, etc. all designed to sway voter opinion.

Can't wait for the Vote for Jeb in 16 campaign.

Adam, Sacramento   December 22nd, 2007 1:38 pm ET

"I like Bill Richardson and would like to see him do well. Unfortunately, he is a distant 4th in Iowa (not distant 5th as this item alleges.)"

CNN is citing to 2 polls from polling groups they aren't even using as entry requirements to their CA debate. On the RCP average Richardson is still ahead of biden but it is certainly tightening between the two of them.

As for abandoning his campaign promise he said personal attacks this is a policy attack on clinton's ever changing triangulation on the war.

And despite the media trying to act like richardson would ever be considered for the clinton VP get serious. She will go with a white male most likely a domestic policy guy as she claims to have foreign policy experience. TO pull in a foreign policy wonk would be an admission of her own lack of experience there going into the general. Richardson might get a nod from edwards should edwards win but not from clinton or obama. Seeing as both clinton and bush have used him as a negotiator I don't think he has to worry that whoever the next president is at some point his phone will ring.

Clinton is looking real desperate. Doing edwards minimum wage adopting Richardsons out in a year she's desperately seeking number 2 switches to have any chance in iowa, possibly even worrying that the undecideds(clearly having rejected her) plus the sub 15% vote will form a coalition around biden or richardson pushing her into fourth.

Caucus' are scrums and it isn't unthinkable to see a 3-4 way low 20% finish. Clinton is scrambling and changing position this late means her internal polls are showing her things that are causing panic in the campaign.

Desperation seems to be her current theme.

Steven - New Providence, NJ   December 22nd, 2007 1:30 pm ET

If your issue is Iraq, Bill is your man. Read Richardson's plan in detail and compare it Obama, Hillary and Edwards at 2013istoolate.com

Go Bill!!!!!

Chris, Middletown, CT   December 22nd, 2007 1:07 pm ET

Hmmm….this is baffling….I would of bet money that Richardson was quiet for so long because Clinton made a deal with him to run with her as the VP….she needs to pander to the Latinos for their vote…..now it appears that Hillarys flip-flopping has even gone too far for the ultra left wing Richardson - Hillary supporters…read her answers…she never answers a single question….either you guys are dumb or….wait….thats it

Sean Allen   December 22nd, 2007 12:55 pm ET

Richardson merely points out the obvious about HRC…she cannot be trusted from one moment to the next. It is his duty as a candidate to illustrate how one contender differs from the next. His experience and integrity as both a politician and human being puts Rodham to shame. Richardson may not rise to the top, but in his ascent he will pass HRC moving in the other direction

Tom Dedham, Mass   December 22nd, 2007 12:43 pm ET

You Clinton sheep are incredible, this guy FORGOT more than "she" will ever know in regards to policy and statemenship and he has REAL experience to back up his words.

You can't blame Republicans as is the usual when her outright triangulation is exposed, so instead you AVOID what he says and AVOID what she has said and hammer him no matter what.

Changing your position from debate to debate, poll to poll and crowd to crowd is DIFFERENT than changing a position over a period of YEARS.

Some people see the difference and post without blinders on.

Biden and Richardson have FAR and away more REAL experience than anyone in either party and though both don't have the dough or the media shilling for them they won't win, but both would make a great cabinet member for either party.

And that's coming from a Conservative.

Jeff, LA, CA   December 22nd, 2007 12:42 pm ET

It's interesting on how vague that Clinton has been in terms of her Iraq policy. She is an opportunist, period. Where has she been all during the campaign in terms of Iraq? Why come out now with the new policy stance? She has been quite vague. She released no time line, no definite plan. She knows that Richardson is spot on on this issue. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And folks who think that is mudslinging, it's not Richardson simply called it for what it was. As much as I am nostalgic for the Clinton years of the 90's; we need new experienced leadership to guide this country. Richardson is that man. I can't wait to place my vote for him on the Feb. 5th.

JJ Monterey, CA   December 22nd, 2007 12:42 pm ET

Geez - guess Jen from Cedar Falls IA: December 22, 2007 11:21am must not be an Obama supporter — else she'd be feelin' the love LOL Guess she must be a jilted GOP Troll :( who's still steamed that they weren't able to oust Bill!! A ton of long repressed anger that's for certain. Probably good to take off the girdle and let it all hang out though - before she blows.

Might be really fun to elect Hillary just to watch all those negative speech mongers' heads explode ;)

kate   December 22nd, 2007 12:35 pm ET

Thanx Bill, someone need to keep telling like it is. I will vote for you if you promise to endorse Obama if you loose the nomination.

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Let the Leaders Lead, Arcadia, Iowa   December 22nd, 2007 12:34 pm ET

Hillary could rival ALI in the ring. Duck, weave and run. What a prime presidential candidate. American citizens can not really be that stupid. A single vote for Hillary, says I am really stupid. How is the Hilly copter doing, all 99 counties????

ken   December 22nd, 2007 12:30 pm ET

Talk of stooping so low.

kristina,las vegas,NV   December 22nd, 2007 12:28 pm ET

Does anyone believe this guy. He would bend low for anything. He is just waiting to be the vice president if Hillary becomes the president.
I wonder why he wouldn't run his own campaign like joe,Obama or Dodd.

Marko Dezdri, Portland, OR   December 22nd, 2007 12:27 pm ET

Hillary will be the nominee and the next President of the United States of America. I'm sad that Richarson took that path towards attacking her. I really wanted him to be Secretary of the State under Hillary's presidency because of his experience. Now, I have remove my support for such a fiasco. t seemed lke a great idea until I read this article. Shame on you Richardson!

Chris, Los Angeles,CA   December 22nd, 2007 12:26 pm ET

Richardson is at least not a nation divider as Clinton is…

Posted By Jen Cedar Falls IA : December 22, 2007 11:21 am

I keep seeing such comments regarding Clinton, and I can't believe the people in the country can be this gullible and easily swayed by what some idiots proclaim. Jen, please give me an instance when Hillary has been a "nation divider". Seems like Hillary's opponents and the supporters of these opponents are delving for reasons to not vote for Hillary. It would help if you sit down and think rationally for a change and have good, solid reasons to vote for one of the candidates. A "nation divider" isn't a rational reason, because she is not!

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 22nd, 2007 12:24 pm ET

Oh boy!

Ken, San Diego, CA   December 22nd, 2007 12:19 pm ET

Hillary has maintained the same exact position the ENTIRE campaign. Her rivals are trying to create a distorted label, which will backfire on them. Anyone can read her statement to see exactly what she said.

jmaya, iowa   December 22nd, 2007 12:17 pm ET

Bill Richardson is now crying boy; why he has to have big mouth at the end any way he is not visible anywhere. Shut up Richardson!

Richardson your nice boy reputation is gone now. you are no where. Hillary's strategy is very safe regarding bringing troops home, nobody can bring troops overnight.

forHIllary '08.

YuleS, Chicago   December 22nd, 2007 11:59 am ET

Just call her "The Pancake."

Brad, Stockton, CA   December 22nd, 2007 11:59 am ET

Hillary, please shut up and just go home.

Angelo Cataldi Medford New Jersey   December 22nd, 2007 11:59 am ET

From day one Richardson has been campaigning to be the nominee for Vice President (it will be Vilsack if Hillary wins the nomination as that would guarantee Ohio) or Secretary of State. (Joe Biden wou ld be a fantastic Secretary of State.) Richardson is an empty suit whose only claim to notoriety is that he's an Hispanic who the winning candidate might need to bring in votes.

Ron Anderson, Dortmund Germany and Ludington Michigan   December 22nd, 2007 11:54 am ET

I am an American Expatriate and it is so disappointing to see yet another losing candidate attack Hillary Clinton because she voted, along with a majority of politicians with what she knew at the time. Unlike Bush she continued to listen and learn over the past years and changed her position on the war in Iraq, something a majority of the nation (including Republicans) have also done. she is being targeted by lesser candidates for doing the exact thing the entire world wishes Bush would have done.. "Re-evaluate" the original war decision. Clinton is the best option America has to rebuild itself.

Kurt Stout, Constable NY 12926   December 22nd, 2007 11:53 am ET

Clinton nixes plea for help

Several hundred Northern New York constituents of Sen. Hillary Clinton plead for her help on Friday, December 21st, 2007. Seems that the DEA has threatened a Northern New York
Physician for writing too many pain prescriptions. The Dr. Carl Sherwin of Malone, NY then had to begin telling his chronic pain patients that he would no longer write any prescriptions for pain relief. Now hundreds of patients are writhing in pain and suffering this Christmas season. Many are, poor, disabled, mentally retarded and elderly. Since it was an agency of the federal government (DEA) that caused the
situation that has forced these patients to suffer needlessly, they reached out to their elected Senate Representative. Essientially, Senator Clinton told them to jump in the lake and refused to get involved to ease their suffering. One patient is a disabled veteran who was taking pain medication due to diabetic neuropathy and a spinal injury suffered when he was the victim of a crime stated "I never contemplated the use of a wheelchair before" he went on to say "it appears that is what Senator Clinton wants me to get for christmas" He went on to point out he thought Hillary was "the biggest Scrooge of the 2007 holiday season" "The only way I can continue to walk is to have my pain medication that I have taken for the last twenty years" Other paitents were left shocked over the entire episode. Eric Hersey of Senator Clinton's staff stated ' we feel this is a legal matter and we refuse to get involved." The patients feel Senator Clinton had missed the point believing it was a matter of empathy for people that cannot otherwise protect themselves. "If we cannot count on our elected representatives to protect us from the DEA which is behaving like the Gestapo, what are we to do?"

JB Boston MA   December 22nd, 2007 11:49 am ET

Why can't you Hillary fanatics just admit Richardson is RIGHT. She would not commit to all troops out (in her own words ON TAPE), and after further polling, she now says different.

This woman will say and do anything to become President. That includes lying, cheating and everything else in between!!!!!

And by the way, it looks like McCain will be the GOP nominee. Hillary will get killed by him. She can't claim experience, cause he's got ya there. Foreign policy experience, he's got ya there. Immigration, he's on the right side now. Campaign reform??? Even though she calls it the Feingold bll, guess who elses name is on it? That's right McCain!!!

People, the dems will lose the WH if she is nominated!!

Ray, Rochester   December 22nd, 2007 11:38 am ET

Hey Bill…

Feel free to mix in a salad every now and then. There's more to life than pizza and burgers.

Chris, La Crosse WI   December 22nd, 2007 11:27 am ET

GIVE UP MR. RICHARDSON, Hillary is going to win, there is no way for you so stop breaking down on other candidates!

Independent in IA   December 22nd, 2007 11:26 am ET

Richardson doesn't have a clue what's going on. All he is is a big mouth that doesn't know when to shut up and go eat his enchiladas and refried beans.

Karen, Tennessee   December 22nd, 2007 11:24 am ET

Some people need to find out what Bill Richardson is all about before you start comparing Senator Clinton's experience with his experience. The man has already been a Senator, UN Ambassador, Cabinet member (for the Clinton administration, by the way) and govenor of a border state. The military has successfully done the job in Iraq they were sent to do. Determine if there were weapons of mass destruction (there were none) and removed Saddam Hussein from power (he's gone). Every day we are there makes us weaker and more despised by many in the world. Let's give the Iraqi people and their government and the diplomats an opportunity to rebuild their nation.

Nando,Florida   December 22nd, 2007 11:23 am ET

I am very disappointed in Richardson. He's a good man and a good candidate. But he will not win the nomination, no how, no way. So why is he trying to screw up the Clinton campaign.

Posted By Liberal Chic : December 22, 2007 1:29 am

—————————————
To LIberal Guy,

No her and Bill are doing just fine buy themselves. Clintons are just OLD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jen Cedar Falls IA   December 22nd, 2007 11:21 am ET

Richardson is at least not a nation divider as Clinton is. Hillary is the most loathed candidate on either side of the aisle. Be careful who you vote for, majority of Independents and unhappy Repubs would NEVER vote for her, as they might another Dem candidate. Not only does Hillarious have tons of baggage (her impeached husbanf for 1), but if you know anything at all about Politics in this country right now, she is a VERY hateful and divisive woman. She would NOT be able to unite this country, Imagine us becoming even MORE divided than we are now! I don't care WHO else you vote for, get another family in the White House as the Clinton's (& GWB) have divided this country enough! We deserve better, now is the time! Richardson isn't so hateful, nor are many other candidates. Don't fall for Hillary's 'softer side', it's an act, that's why they had to put this out there, no one's ever seen it before because it's not REAL! She is a PHONY!

Nando,Florida   December 22nd, 2007 11:17 am ET

Well I Guess Bill has gotten the word from the insiders, That Hillary would be going with a more insider freindly VP. running mate, to bad BIll you have been PUNKED by the Clinton Machine.
But there is always a position in Immigration!!!!

OBAMA 08,12

Independent in CA - back to reading the manual   December 22nd, 2007 11:03 am ET

Oh no Richardson, I was leaning your way but now you've started doing what you admonished everyone else not to do. Guess the old adage is true, if you can't beat them - join 'em. Welcome to the wonderful world of politics NOT :(

carol,tx   December 22nd, 2007 10:59 am ET

It looks like campaigning has been tough on him. He want vice presidency though..

SE, San Francisco, CA   December 22nd, 2007 10:28 am ET

There you go again Hillary.

In the last week, she's become: 1) the candidate of "change" (trying to outflank Obama, 2) the antiwar candidate (trying to lie and outflank everyone, and 3) a kinder gentler Hillary (trying to outflank every rational American).

Will Iowans see through the noise?

Brad, from the great state of Texas   December 22nd, 2007 10:21 am ET

Richardson is right, for once; however his chances of winning the nomination are so slim, I'd say he's done for. Might as well throw in the towel like Tancredo.

Robyn, San Diego   December 22nd, 2007 10:18 am ET

It's naive to think that the messy war Bush created when he provided falsified information to Congress can be ended with a single signature, and all troops extracted immediately. Any expert will tell you that a residual force must provide a transition to complete withdrawal. Candidates who are promising otherwise are lying. I give Clinton credit on this issue for acknowledging the reality of the complex situation in Iraq, and not promoting false hope. Among the Dems, she's been most honest about Iraq.

Jose Card   December 22nd, 2007 10:12 am ET

Thanks! CNN! Finally, Governor Richardson got some coverage on CNN.

The man has the most foreign experience among all Dems, but he doesn't like to brag about it. He also has the executive experience that Hillary lacks. He is not an insider in D.C. He will bring real CHANGE to the White House, while Hillary is a D.C. insider who is good at irritating many people and is unable to lead anybody, not even Bill. Bill just wants to get two more terms at any costs.

Bill, Medford, OR   December 22nd, 2007 9:42 am ET

Why, when a politician changes his/her position, is it inevitably called "flip-flopping"? Situations change over time. Good politicians will consult with many experts in the field, reassess and realign his/her views. . . by far better than stubbornly and blindly hanging onto a prior position. And that is exactly what we need instead of the "My way or the highway" mindset of the current administration. Hillary is continually criticized by Obama and Edwards (and now Richardson) for her flexibility. And, by the way, whatever happened to the "clean" campaign Obama pledged to run? Seems as if everytime he opens his mouth, he grasps any topic he can to slam Hillary. Most of his criticisms of her are distortions, lies, and half-truths. I know he said he doesn't believe in polls, but we've all noticed, as his numbers drop and Hillary's rise, he is becoming more and more desperate. Just state your case, Man, and stop wasting so much time belittling your competitors. Get your own message out while you can.

Daniel 6, harlem NYC   December 22nd, 2007 9:18 am ET

Actually he is a distant 5th. Joe Biden has moved into the 4th spot. Richardson is attacking because he is slipping in the polls. He is weak, I have said it over and over again. We need strentgh, and he doesn't have it.

Greg Caucutt, Rochester, MN   December 22nd, 2007 9:01 am ET

I like Bill Richardson and would like to see him do well. Unfortunately, he is a distant 4th in Iowa (not distant 5th as this item alleges.)

FO, watertown, ny   December 22nd, 2007 8:38 am ET

Richard flip-flopps on his earlier position calling all dem candidates not to mud-slinging.

There goes his chance to be Hillary's VP running mate, as he appears to have been aiming at.

Jim Monroe NH   December 22nd, 2007 7:26 am ET

Wake up Bill, your taking the easy road, we support you, back away from the good ole boys clinton bashing /attacks, we the voters are not listening any longer!Senator Clinton for President, because we know that she has the experience and the judgment that comes from having been in the arena for her entire adult life–and from close personal participation with her in the conduct of U.S. foreign policy. And we have trust in her to end the war in Iraq in the most responsible way, consistent with our national security interests.

Alice Newman Center Harbor NH   December 22nd, 2007 5:25 am ET

There are many annoying parts of this presidential campaign but on the top of the list is the media's kissing up to the "stars" while very capable candidates languish on the outer edges of the debate - moderators seldom giving them time of day.

If you look at Richardson's depth of experience, his steady style, he would make a fine president.

However, voters who are used to American Idol and Brittney, added to those whose only issue is electing someone who "has a personal relationship with Jesus" are willing to overlook true qualifications for a flash in the pan …

The media has much to answer for: being complaisant as we rushed to war and now beating the drums for so-called front-runners rather than being truly fair and balanced.

Heather, Nashville, TN   December 22nd, 2007 4:49 am ET

flip flop, fuzzy numbers, swift boating, can you please come up with some new slurs to throw at people because these are getting pretty old. Perhaps you should concentrate on nothing but the facts and see how that works for you. That's what Senator Clinton does, is she the only one who stand on her own two feet?

Mrs. America   December 22nd, 2007 2:20 am ET

I don't know if people realize how many countries the U.S. has military in, doing training and such, not to mention working at embassies, etc. To say that every single troop will come out of Iraq is unrealistic. Sen. Clinton is right, and she should stick with bringing "nearly everybody" home because that's the most that's ever going to happen. With his tremendous qualifications, Richardson should know that.

KEITH JAMES LOUTTIT   December 22nd, 2007 2:14 am ET

Gov. Richardson reminds us, weakly, that he is still in the race! Didn't he team up with Gravel?

Mark R. Fort Lauderdale FL   December 22nd, 2007 2:01 am ET

Mr. Richardson, what do you plan to do after these primaries? Shouldn't we avoid burning bridges at this point?

RT, CA   December 22nd, 2007 1:58 am ET

Why Clinton will prevail
John Sasso
By John Sasso
December 22, 2007
SOME RAINDROPS have started to fall on Senator Hillary Clinton's parade to the Democratic presidential nomination. In the early primary races of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, rival Barack Obama has pulled even or ahead and the longstanding Clinton badge of elective inevitability has come under question.

more stories like thisDespite the Barack Obama zeal, I believe Clinton will prevail. And if she is the nominee, I believe she is the most electable and least vulnerable Democratic candidate to face the Republicans.

I was more uncertain a year ago when she announced her candidacy. Then she had recognizable strengths but at the same time possessed familiar handicaps both political and personal. She was routinely portrayed as contrived, a woman whose high intelligence had an impersonal edge and whose real identity was difficult to locate.

That was then. Today Clinton has forged herself into a formidable political leader. She has undergone a remarkable journey. In the face of unending autopsies on her personal and political past, unrelieved targeting at both Democratic and Republican debates, the punishing demands imposed on a woman candidate, she is still standing unflinchingly in place.

This is the mark of thoroughbred candidates. They take the fire. They survive the wounds. And while voters relish the spectacle of office-seekers squirming under adversity, something else happens at the same moment. If candidates demonstrate they can bear that kind of public barrage with conviction and ready composure — and Clinton has done that — they cross a crucial threshold in the public mind. They are viewed as able to compete and win a national election and able thereafter to govern in perilous times.

Why the most electable Democrat? Because after a year of being tightly measured, Clinton has won a public acceptance that she has the intellect and inner confidence to do the job. She has reached beyond her political inheritance and shaped a political presence all her own. Hillary belittlers still abound, to be sure. She is still caricatured as calculating. But the senator has taken on some different markings. Gone is the defensive bite, on hand is a new openness to concede mistakes, often with glints of humor.

If she does capture the nomination, she will see her standing soar overnight. Nomination is a transforming passage. What was viewed by some as calculation becomes smartness, impersonalness becomes thoughtful deliberation.

Once nominated her campaign will undergo another transformation. Her candidacy will take on an historic aura as it confronts an historic question — can a woman, this woman, be elected president? Americans will be caught up in crossing one of the country's great divides. Voters of both parties, not just proud women, will be favorably disposed to make that crossing. Americans like the good feeling of removing barriers.

This gender phenomenon showed up in the Geraldine Ferraro campaign, which I managed. At every stop, huge crowds turned out, eager to be part of history in the making. By campaign's end, two things seemed clearer to me: there is inherent goodwill for a woman seeking power but a far sterner demand she be up to the challenge. That higher bar asked too much of Ferraro. Clinton has already cleared the bar.

Why the least vulnerable Democrat? The day the Democratic nominee becomes obvious the Republican attack machine will spring to action. Always, the opponent is a target to be eviscerated. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, a man less intimately understood and less defined, Republicans will rush to manufacture their own brutal definition. Can Obama withstand that kind of barrage? Does he have the personal makeup to be as relentless as his opponents? Do past political positions leave him vulnerable? Because the risks are sky-high, these questions need to be reasonably raised and answered beforehand.

Clinton is well past negative redefinition. Unlike John Kerry's 2004 campaign in which veterans opposed to Kerry's candidacy challenged his war record, it will be difficult to ram a Swift Boat into her candidacy. If there is a convict in her political past, as with Willie Horton during the Dukakis 1988 campaign, he will already have been exhumed. Besides, the Clintons are veteran enough to mount a withering counterfire of their own.

The most vulnerable Democrat, Clinton is not. The most electable, she is. America's political landscape, this time around, looks fertile for the right Democratic candidate. But one day, surely, the country will elect a woman president. I sense that moment - and that woman - has arrived.

Stephen Cassidy, San Leandro, CA   December 22nd, 2007 1:47 am ET

Richardson has taken it on the chin for advocating for a complete withdrawal of US forces from Iraq within one year. He has been accused of pandering to the voters by the editors and other candidates and their supporters, even though his reasoning on why we must withdraw can't be refuted.

At the Presidential debates Clinton, Obama and Edwards refused to pledge to bring our troops home by 2013. That's the safe message, the one that fits conventional wisdom. But the voter in Iowa is smarter. The voter wants a commitment from the candidates. Clinton's response was designed to create the impression "nearly" everyone was coming home in a year, and protect her from losing support of anti-war voters.

When Clinton appears on the national talk shows and at the Presidential debates it's all about leaving Iraq "safely" and "responsibly" implying that Richardson's call for a complete withdrawal within a year is irresponsible and continuing the U.S. military presence in Iraq to fight terrorism, train the Iraqi army and provide security for the government.

Yet, when face to face with the Iowa voter, Clinton flips. It's nearly everyone out in 12 months. She deserves to be criticized for her inconsistency.

And she deserves to be criticized for her deception on Iraq. Anyone that thinks Clinton will remove most, if not "nearly" all, U.S. troops within a year of taking office isn't paying attention. Clinton relies upon the architects of the Iraq morass and those that have deemed the surge successful to advise her of the course of action to take in Iraq. We can expect her advisers plan for Iraq will be a hawkish plan.

Are we ever going to leave Iraq under Clinton? I highly doubt it. Go back to the question of why did we invade? Did we really care about Saddam's supposed WMD or was it the fact Iraq has some of the world's largest proven oil reserves? We are building an embassy the size of Vatican City in Iraq and our military bases are designed for a permanent occupation.

Moe, NY   December 22nd, 2007 1:37 am ET

Sorry Mr. Richardson…really do not know who you are, or what you are about. Hillary will be the next President of the United States of America and I hope John Edwards is there with her, he definitely has an appeal to the people in this country that are hurting due to the present administration's lack of concern for American citizens. The current administration panders to their cronies, Corporate America, and anyone/anybody else who is fortunate enough to have everything handed to them…certainly does not include the working class. If all you people sitting in an office thinking you are not working class Americans….think again…manufacturing jobs have left this country…sorry that leaves YOU as working class Americans….food for thought! Bring on the minimum wage increase Hillary…it is a long time coming, and much needed by most, especially middle class citizens (or what is left of us?).

Liberal Chic   December 22nd, 2007 1:29 am ET

I am very disappointed in Richardson. He's a good man and a good candidate. But he will not win the nomination, no how, no way. So why is he trying to screw up the Clinton campaign.

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