How funny is this? SHE lost the WOMEN's vote!!!!!

Should our enviroment be a topic of discussion?

"But the Illinois Democrat won among women in every other age demographic among women"

What's wrong with the above sentence, in the above sentence?

Editors on strike, too?

Hillary Clinton: " I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas . .. "
Today's Woman Voter: "I supposed I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but I went out and voted for Obama instead." We have very long memories and do not want a co-presidency with a former president who is immoral. The Clintons will do anything for power and Hillary faces the same problem she has always faced: no one likes or trusts her.

Obama's win with the women is obviously due to Oprah. That to me is a shame. Oprah is not a Christian nor do I believe is Obama. This country needs a revival and a strong Christian candidate to encourage publically this need. I wish people would understand the needs of OUR society and fully research candidates in order to vote accordingly. Casting a vote based on what Oprah says is ignorant without deep research.

Um, Obama is a Christian. (Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.) Please check your facts before commenting.

Buddy Vail declares that Oprah isn't a Christian! He also declares Obama isn't either! Got some insider info there or have you not heard Oprah over the decades praising Jesus on her show and talking Spiritualism with God over & over.
Like many religious fundamentalists you spraypaint people that aren't YOUR pinstripe brand of Christianity as Not Christian. A common tactic of hate filled Christian Fascists. The nutjobs on the far right don't have half the power they did just 7 years ago.

Buddy, I do not care if Obama is Christian. (BTW, he is). This country needs a revival but not a strong Christian candidate. I could care less if the president is an atheist, Mormon, Christian, Hindu, Muslim - I DON'T CARE. What I care is what does the candidate care about? Does he plan to end the illegal war in Iraq and bring our troops home? What about fixing this economy which only repubs seem to think is working? Health care? Outrageous prescription drug prices? Tax cuts that therefore caused funding cuts in health care programs for economically disadvantaged people? I care more that the candidate has intelligence, integrity and compassion - not the person's religion.

You can be a good productive member of society and not be Christian.

If I vote for Obama - which I will definitely do if he is the nominee, I'm torn between him and Biden when it comes my state's time - it will have nothing to do with Oprah. I really like Obama and have never done ANYTHING because Oprah thinks I should. I am almost 54 years old (and a white female) and I don't think I have ever watched her show.

So get your nose out of the Bible and do your own research.

Although I did not personally back Obama, I do not believe that he should not be our President because his celebrity actually helped him win here in Iowa. If the celebrity that backs your candidate had helped your person win, could I jab at your candidate and say that he is shameful? Did your candidate not have a celebrity? As for the Christian aspect you are looking for, you should be looking for a President that is able to keep their religion separate from their decision making. There is a reason for separation of church and state. I firmly believe in every persons right to choose a candidate on their own, but I just ask that you be fair and hold your person up to the same standards as you hold others up to. I married a republican and I love him dearly. We may not see eye to eye, but we educate ourselves on why we feel the way we do and we hold our standards up to everyone, even the people we support.

so, Buddy, is "full research" just seeing which religious box the candidates check? Bush claims to be a Christian, got all the rightwingers to get him in the office, and he's run the most corrupt administration in recent history.

Maybe it'd be good for the "revival" of America if we stopped using religion as a way to classify and divide people.

Bravo to all Iowans. The two leading candidates from both parties accurately reflects party differences. It was mentioned earlier that the race may have pitted generation vs. religion, and this theme may be an obvious and superficial read. I do, however, think that too simple an explanation; the real race isn't about religion, age or gender–it is about 'change'.

Again, bravo to all Iowans–you stood above the fray and voted your conscience. Thanks…, and congratulations to Obama and Edwards, and, Huckabee and Romney.

Craig

It is probably due to Oprah, who is simply more widely trusted and respected than Hillary. Obama is indeed a Christian, but thankfully he is not dominated by it - which is good news in a time when religion has too much power in deciding policy. I'd like to see an atheist candidate win and clean out the unfortunate relationship between politics and religious rubbish once and for all. But not as much as I'd like to see an overall strong candidate like Obama take the lead.

Evelyn Law January 3, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Hillary Clinton: " I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas . .. "
Today's Woman Voter: "I supposed I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but I went out and voted for Obama instead." We have very long memories and do not want a co-presidency with a former president who is immoral. The Clintons will do anything for power and Hillary faces the same problem she has always faced: no one likes or trusts her.

Marital problems or infidelity is personal. He made that personal mistake. As a US President, running the country, Bill Clinton have done many great things especially our economy. Remember the trillion dollars he saved.

Maybe people has to be more specific about the " no one likes or trust her". Why? enumerate.

Obama has to specify change. Maybe he should show his Illinois state records about the changes he did while as a state senator in IL.

GOPs are loving this Obama's winning. GOPs prefer to face Obama and Edwards.

RON PAUL for President!

63% did not vote for obama
don't count chickens until after Feb 5th

Wow…look at all the haters I awoke! I love it! Keep drinkin' that Hatorade!

Yes, Buddy. We all hate Christianity. You win. Good job.

Buddy,

Do you realize how childish your comment is? Hatorade??? Really??? I don't hate all republicans or all overly enthusiastic Christians like yourself. I just dislike the uneducated ones, or those who can't hold discussions like a grown up. I would like to see you argue your superb candidate without bashing others! When you can do that, you can move to the grown up table.

If Hucklebee or Obama are the nominations, I hope thier is a viable independent
canidate. I: hate to think the election will be influenced by Oprah and the far right.

Lonely women voted for Obama. Some probably think he is a good looking fella. I hope your yearning for a good looking guy can save this country. Wake up! It's not Oprah. Even I can't blame this on Oprah. It is truly a sad sad day that Iowa gave to our country tonight's results. Oh well "it's not over - it has just begun."

I'm a political Independent; a statistical outlier. Tonight I shed tears of joy at the results from Iowa.

Barack Obama represents the best chance from the field of uniting our fractured country. He is black, and he is white. He brings the plight of African-Americans and other minorities to me, a Caucasian "mutt," more clearly than any before him. He represents my distaste and displeasure with pure capitalist gain at the expense of the man-on-the-street better than any other candidate. He genuinely wants to see us do better for all our countrymen and -women with regard to health care, retirement, and opportunity. He respects my lack of religion and desire to remove the sacred from government, and he respects my right to attend to my body and life without judgment and according to the law of our land. He anticipates bringing our most honorable servicemen and -women home from an unjust and unwarranted war that was misguided, although likely well-intentioned.

Our current divisive policies and politics are not enough; they are not representative, and they are not working. Kudos to Senator Obama for a huge win, and for walking the walk he talks rather than preaching from his ivory tower.

His no substance preaching will fade, it was a very tight race, though he would wipe the floor with the others…hardly…Iowa woman who voted for obama should feel ashamed and pray they can afford to take their child to a Doctor!

Hillary/Edwards 2008!

The "Christians" who make comments like those above seem to be of two types: either the candidate has to flaunt his/her Christianity, and they risk winding up with (and supporting!) someone like Bush; or they want someone with "Christian values", which are basically the same values, for the political world, that good Jews, Muslims, humanists, etc. also have.

Let's look for the values in the candidates' actions, and let them believe what they want.

Hatorade? My goodness are you 7? I haven't heard that since 9th grade and that was 20 years ago. LOL…You got called on your nonfactual statements–lies, in other words, Buddy–no need to get childish about it.

As an X-Marine and one that love and trust God I'm overly tired of the self righteous people in this country that wear their religion around there necks, no where close to being in their hearts. They pick and choose what scriptures to stand on while totaly ignoring the rest. If the Devil himself were to come and claim to be a Christian he would have this country in his hands. Not full of the unsaved mind you but of those whom are full of religion but have no personal relationships of their own with God Almighty.

If it's time to vote for a woman president, it's not Hillary.
She is not even a good role model for today's women.

I still stick with choosing the best president for our country.

Russ
"63% did not vote for obama"

And an even GREATER PERCENTAGE of Iowans did not vote for the DISTANT LOSERS behind Obama. LOL

Iowa, the most Enlightened State of the Union shows the nation the best choice for President — Obama!

Yea BUDDY!!!!!! I am voting For the Black man because well I am WHITE and I just simply LIke him to be my commander in chief regardless of his race and military back ground he is a prime example of what americans are all about.

OBAMA IN 2008 IS WHAT I CARE ABOUT

Is America ready to have a black president in the sacred halls of the White House, the official shrine of the President? Have his portrait hang with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy etc…? Is it a part of the "Change" Obama is talking about?

If so, all the more power to him. The American civil rights movement have come a long way and Martin Luther King, Jr's "dream" has finally been fulfilled.

Is America ready to have a black president in the sacred halls of the White House, the official shrine of the President? Have his portrait hang with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy etc…?

If so, all the more power to him. The American civil rights movement have come a long way and Martin Luther King, Jr's "dream" has finally been fulfilled.

Is America ready to have a black president in the White House and have his portrait hanging with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy etc…?

If so, all the more power to him. The American civil rights movement have come a long way and Martin Luther King, Jr's "dream" has finally been fulfilled.

After tonight, Obama owns the change message. It is early, but I have to respectfully disagree with a previous poster who commented that they GOP is loving this Obama victory…..I am not so sure.
I think the GOP wants to face Clinton. They know its one of few ways to rally their party faithful to the polls. According to the Iowa caucus turn out results, it was 2 to 1 over the republican turnout. That bodes well for general election turnout on the dem side.
Without Hillary as the guranteed nominee anymore to rally them, and the turnout and the vote pointing to change candidates like Obama, Republicans are in trouble.
I am still uncecided, but I am impressed with Obama tonight.

I like Barack Obama but have you noticed that his eyes are always half closed and his mouth wide open. This is concerning to me as most who have a drug addiction look much the same way. There should be a thorough investigation into his past and present. I know by his own admission he has been on illicit drugs in the past. When the word "change" is used so aggressively, I wonder if it means for the better or for the worse.

Who cares. All of the leading Dems are nothing but communists. Hold onto your wallets folks. They're coming.

Some people never move up to the grown up table. Start settling things the true way it was meant to be by our founding fathers and maybe then you can comment on more things than those that make you angry. Obama vs Huckabee sounds like a great way to get the ball rolling.

I don't claim to know a huge amount about the workings of politics. I just know that this election has been the most talked about and enthusiastically looked forward to any that I have seen in my 52 years on this earth. Tonight surprised me without a doubt, but, mostly because I have failed to really pay attention to the polls and such the past few weeks. I expected this to be historical in many ways, and the surprises are already starting. I think that people are generally desparate for something to make this country strong and respected again. Although we are good for helping other countries, we are now at a time when it is apparent that perhaps we should have been working on ourselves a tad bit???
As someone who was caught in the unacceptable medical situation in the U.S., Let me say that while that stupid war is definately a main issue, to me it is the most important change that has to come that all people have medical and pharmacutical access. I have heard about preventative medicine as being the way to stop further costs later, but I think we have to have the coverage to do that.
Yes, I am rambling, but, I am trying to put in two cents and not offend anyone.
I hope that is better than debating some of the above.
Thanks for reading.
kelly in oregon

It's just possible that women are able to make up their minds without being told what to do by Oprah W. She helped to get Obama some attention, but voters had a pretty good set of choices tonight. He closed the deal, and did it with an amazing increase in turnout.

I wasn't totally surprised that Obama won! It's time for change! I believe that Obama will make a difference. I encourage everyone to vote for him in this year's election. Let's bring our boys home from Iraq as a top priority! Enough is enough!

I actually do hate Christianity. I'm ok with that. It's childish to think there's an imaginary man in the sky who gives a rat's nosehair about your day to day business. That's just ridiculous. It's Santa Claus for grown-ups. This is a deliberately secular country. Our founding fathers had the chance to explicitly create a state religion. They deliberately chose not to. Again and again, they protected us from tying religion to the function of the state. Religion, if anything, is even less relevant now than it was in their day. Back then people were a generation away from burning witches, and still using leeches as medicine. Louis Pasteur hadn't even confirmed the germ theory of disease. For all they knew, there really could have been such things as demons and spirits. Today we have a much better idea of how the world works, and we don't need a sky-Daddy to fill in the blanks.
All that's beside the point. Obama IS a Christian, much to my dismay, but I'll still vote for him because I vote on the issues, not on faith. Though I'm sure glad I'm not a Republican, because there's no way I could vote for a candidate whose religion thinks that if your multiple 14yo brides squirt out enough offspring, you get a whole planet to yourself in the afterlife. Madness. Don't even get me started on Ron Paul…he's about as stable as the unabomber.

I don't care who wins, Democrate or Republican at the end, as long as it's not Hilary Clinton. If she wins, I am moving to Canada.

Hillary LOST the women's vote because she (and her handlers) take the women's vote for granted.

I'm not an Obama supporter (Ron Paul FTW!) but I think that he's a man of integrity.

Hillary on the other hand… not so much.

When you are HILLARY CLINTON and you cannot win women voters, it's time to pack up and go back to Arkansas. Forget about returning to New York, because she used New York and she still did not succeed in her dream.

Oprah is a powerful celebrity who is popular with women, especially whites. I mean, the woman can make a novel you write into a national bestseller if she says it is a good book. That's powerful stuff right there! So when she said she spoke with Obama several times, find he is consistent and brutally honest and cares, then when she sells Obama to the voters, that's it!

Ever wondered why Bill Clinton has appeared on Oprah so many times, but not once has Hillary ever made an appearance?

Gem,

You're right. Marital fidelity is a personal problem.

When the most senior male in an organisation violates one of the most junior women on his staff with a cigar in his office during work hours, that's NOT a personal problem.

I don't dislike Mrs Clinton for supporting her marriage. But as a professional woman, I despise her for not taking a stance that the sort of behaviour her husband demonstrated should never, ever be tolerated in a place of work. Mrs Clinton lashed out at the junior staff member instead - what does that really say about her 'support for women and children' - especially considering that the staff member involved was barely older than Mrs Clinton's daughter at the time?

It may be old news, but this is a huge reason why many professional women won't support Mrs Clinton. She is not one of us.

Hillary Clinton is going to win the democratic nomination. I am stunned that 8 years after choosing an "unknown" over a well-respected, well-known vice-president who is today a nobel prize winner, we're at it again. Barack Obama is just as George Bush was 8 years ago-an unknown. And we all know how that one went. It's time to get an experienced, well-known candidate into the Whitehouse. The only one left today is Hillary Clinton. Wake-up people!!! What is Obama pumping into the air vents at his rallies? He stands there spouting out platitudes and SAYING nothing, and you people clap and swoon like it means something. Vote for Hillary!!! Our country can't afford another rookie!!!

Question, without the obvious Oprah push, would he have won the women vote?

Buddy, I'm a republican and support Huckabee but not because he's a christian. I support him based on the issues, such as the fair tax program. To say we should vote for Huckabee because he's a christian is a stupid as saying we should vote for Hillary because she's a woman. Both mindsets are ignorant.

I recently watched the Polar Express… this country needs a Prez that believes in Santa. Also, as an added bonus, it wouldn't hurt if our next commander in chief believed that Elvis still lives, and was brave enough to shout it from the rooftops.

Unlike she's-a-man-baby-Coulter, I have always thought this gender is very bright!

The Clintons should stop being so greedy for power. 8 years - that's enough.

But I don't want to be cruel to Hillary or her supporters.

Truth is, we need change, and Barack Obama is the man. Democrats let's all unite behind Barack.

One nation - one voice!

LQ ROCHESTER MN:

I'm so proud to read your comments. Well done, and well said!

Go Obama!

I am glad Hillary lost but after watching Obamas speech last night I found I do not like him either. Everything he said was directed at race and seperation. He is trying to be Martin Luther King! It appears to me that he is bringing up pains of the past and dwelling on the fact that he is black. We do not need another Al Sharpton!!! Also his wife is to fat to be wearing a skin tight dress, Hell, the zipper on the back was about to bust. LOL

Hillary is too much of a manly women..

FYI- You have this filed under "Barak" Obama. Spelling is "Barack"

Go Obama and Michelle - a stellar president in deed!

Go OBAMA, Keep reaching out to America, RED AND BLUE STATE and MEN and WOMEN. Keep your eye on the prize because the battle just started ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE

Good thing those older women can't remember passed 1997..

melissa he talked about uniting about change not just being black, it wasn't blacks only clapping and cheering behind him, but yes he has to refer to it because america not just white america blacks to are not giving him a chance, so to stand there and win that night is just great and yes its even greater because he is a black man that can lead this country. this could only happen in america just like he said

Melissa Festus from MO,

Your comment was stupid. It would take someone like to to totally misinterpret a great speech. Martin L. King is no Al sharpton and Obama is no al sharpton. You are speaking out of true ignorance. MLK spoke of unifying the country black white and brown. How is that seperation? He is not bringing up the past but looking for a better future. I bet his wife looks better then you on your best day. And who cares what she wore. She is smarter then you and probably is richer too. Stop hating on good people and take your clinton loving barak hating self back to school because you missed history class. Barak is going to unify the country not just the races but across party lines too. You must be young because you sound it. Bottom line is get a life.

Look people, if you don't have anything intelligent to say please do not post. I mean some people on here are starting to sound really ignorant. All you Clinton lovers who are begging us to vote for poor Hillary, please stop. You go right ahead and vote for her if you want. I will be with the Obama camp. Seriously, there is no reason not to like him. People keep saying he is making empty statements but thats not what candidates do. They tell you their plans until they can become president and come thru on their promises. Stop getting emotional and ignorant about this. This country cannot afford many more ignorant people like that Melissa Festus girl. Seriously, get a clue.

Just take a look at Opra's expression in the picture she looks positively disgusted. The question is what about?

I am an ex Navy Seal injured in combat, Chicago native living in Colorado. I am also an African American who voted Republican the last 2 elections. My vote goes for the candidate I believe is best for the job & I pray the rest of America will do whats best for the country & will not allow skin tone to interfere. Thank You Iowa for proving that we may have truly overcome-not as a people but as a nation, 1 Nation Under God.

Go OBAMA!!!!!!!!

People it is truly time for change. We all know the middle class is slowly headed into the lower class. Poverty is at an all time high and families are truly struggling. Obama for Change!!

Old(er) women vote for Hillary because they are not following what is happening today in the world. They live in the past, are afraid of the present, and have no sense of the future. I know, I am almost there myself. But some of us old(er) women want to give the stage over to the fresh, energetic and younger–the post-baby-boomers who now must live in the world we've messed up. Hillary and Bill are greedy aging baby boomers who have had eight years in the WH and are obstructing the healthy processes of democratic transition in order to return to power. That is called dynastic rule and nepotism. Americans know we are a republic and not a feudal monarchy. Obama's intelligence, decency and commitment shine in contrast to both Bush Jn's performance and to Hillary's raw ambitions that voted to send our sons and daughters to war and our beloved nation into catastrophe.

Hillary, Rudy, Barack, Huckabee: They all will do what they are told if elected. The elites are laughing at these comments. Emma Goldman once said, "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal."

It is a shame that some see the act of participation in self-governance as a futile effort. Worse is when that kind of thinking emanates from the belief that all things must be viewed through some kind of prism that suggests a conspiracy. Really, fatalism is a terrible thing.

Craig

Smart women support a smart, tough, qualified woman for president - Senator Hillary Clinton!

Have you ever thought how we are gonna look to other countries with a woman president? Most other countries don't allow women to vote and some don't allow women to speak in public. How much respect is Hilliary Clinton gonna get? Seems like it's gonna put a kink in relations with other countries to me. I'm not a shovanist but thats just how it is. Clint just doesn't seem trustworthy to me anyway so…