Chris, why don't you read the BIBLE and see that you can't be far left and be Christian! It doesn't say you can't be democrat, just look at the moral standards!

"you can't be on the far left and be Christian?
what kind of bigotry is this?"

No Christ you cant. Ypu cant be for the murder of children durrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Why is it that so-called Christians (I say so-called because to be Christian you must strive to act Christ like) insist on lies and deception as opposed to fact and constructive debate to make their cases? Donna again "Spins" the truth;
"Someone needs to take a stand for religious beliefs because that is one of the principles this country was founded on. The next president needs to lead this nation back to the basic truths and principles this country was founded on." Can someone PLEASE tell me how that works? If this is true why isn't Jesus mentioned in the founding documents? Why aren't the Ten Commandments mentioned? Donna please answer this question! You spew that crap because that is what you have been told! OK so that is the crap you spew now defend it. Not with BS rhetoric but with fact! HOW was the country founded on these principals? You make ZERO sense! How is, "…religious beliefs" ONE of the principals this country was founded on??? You have no idea that's how. You WANT this to be so, so you make up "facts" to support your story. I have no problem with religion per se, but how is anyone to respect you or your religion when you use LIES to make your case? Doesn't that offend you? Isn't religion supposed to be a "good" thing? If so then why the need to lie? Let me explain how "sane" people view our central "Founding" document ("the Declaration of Independence" since you clearly don't get how it works); The central statement is: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Where does it say, "Jesus Christ"? The Creator is simply used to give weight to the meat of the statement. What YOU people don't get is the rest of the sentence! Does the term UNALIENABLE mean a thing to you??? Together the statement means that NO MATTER WHAT… YOU can't alienate ANYONE from Life, Liberty or the pursuit of happiness. YOU take that to mean, "Well unless these people don't agree with me!" WRONG! I believe that it is clearly understood that I cannot cause physical or emotional harm in my pursuit of happiness but that doesn't mean I have to seek your approval for my actions. Remember that pesky little "Unalienable" remark. IF you are part of the mob that seeks to ban Gays from marriage, proudly call yourself a Christian but PLEASE do not defame the rest of us by calling yourself an AMERICAN. I'll leave it to you to explain to God how you treated someone that you felt superior to and used his name to wreak your evil. If you are so stupid that you don't understand that the Bible was written by Men (and I don't mean men as in mankind I mean MEN) and therefore subject to all the good AND evil that accompanies that, then you should not be allowed to vote.

Ryan
go back and reread what I wrote, I did not chose to go to Iraq MY PRESIDENT did so that does NOT make me an accessory to murder. Unlike the democrat who says lets give a woman a RIGHT to kill her unborn child where is the CHILD'S right? The child has no say so. I had NO say so in what Bush did or did not do.
Not all who voted for Bush wanted this war so learn before you speak out of ignorance I am against killing PERIOD!!!!!!

To David Paul Niner:
You DID NOT accept my challenge. I made a typo when I once wrote "income tax" instead of sales tax. Subsequent posts show that I clearly understand it to be a sales tax. You made a snarky comment and then did not state why you support the fair tax.
Challenge Resubmitted. I want to hear REASONS.

Here, the link to the House version, so yes I have read the tax.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.25:

Do you know the size of the black market this would create?
Do you know the cumbersome tax collection bureaucracy this bill would create? You'd just be getting something worse than even the IRS!

People that support this idea haven't got the foggiest notion of economic principles or political reality. Which sums up the quality of Huckabee supporters perfectly.

Ed, Ellenville, New York

Please back up your claim that Dobson advocates "beating" children. I'd like the page number of the book you read that in, or perhaps the title and date of the radio broadcast you heard him say that on. If you can't back that up, don't repeat those sorts of vicious lies.

Hey yo, here's the link to the actual Fair Tax Bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.25:

So I have read it. Apparently, you most certainly would pay 23% on that shirt given as an example.

The bill gives a subsdy to poor people to pay the tax. Seriously, that sounds like the worst big government welfare ever. What's their incentive to get out of poverty?

I see in the text that one of the reasons for the bill was that income tax discourages economic growth. Hello, taxing everything that moves for 23% would be beneficial? Remember, I believe they mean services too.

People would consume less (not an economic boon), producers produce less and finally tax revenues fall as fewer pople buy things.

While arguably giving massive subsidies to the poor is progressive (an odd position for self-reliant Republicans), this bill would decimate the middle class.

Of course, there is a group of very wealthy people behind this. Nothing wrong with that, this is a free country and they can push their agenda. But this isn't good for Middle America.

Obviously, Huckabee is just after the financial support of the Americans for Fair Taxation and there is no almost no chance of such an idea ever happening.

The point is to get these debates away from Who Loves God More to something more substantive.

I already have a pastor and a church. We're hiring a president here.

The reason I keep hammering on this sales tax idea (which would replace the national income tax) is that Huckabee supporters seem to think he's some kind of populist.
So far all I get is a few remarks that I need to go read it. Which I have.
So far no succinct explanation of why this is a good idea.
I need supporters of this idea to say why:

1) This tax is not regressive
2) Why this tax wouldn't stop many products from being put out of the reach of people with modest means.
3) Why you think this idea wouldn't get Huckabee crushed in a general election
4) Why this wouldn't destroy our consumer-led economy. Which is especially important given the looming downturn.

What is it supposed to do? Soak the rich? Make sure peasants don't get their hands on things we've decided they don't need? Stifle the economy? Is it a puritannical need to punish people for consuming? Make sure people don't buy anything other than lentils ever again? Destroy small business in America?

Someone gave an example about a $100 shirt wouldn't cost $123 under this system. Why? Is all clothing exempt? Even fancy clothing? A $100 shirt is certainly not a basic necessary at all. W

With all the thousands of goods and services available in this country, how are you going to keep track of what to charge? Here's an idea: with a tax bureau of some kind. There certainly will be a tax bureaucracy under this scenario.

Huckabee is the only politician that makes me write on message boards. Sheesh.

Lessee…My education is based in proven laissez-faire capitalism, what's yours?
What are the basics that wouldn't be subject to 23% tax? Clothes, food, coal?
What about the other products in life – computers, cars, travel, meat? Overtaxing these things would lead to a lack of incentive for companies to produce them and anything "unnecessary" left over would be for the elite only.
So in other words, cheap coal and wool for the peasants, but no computers or beach vacations. That's for the rich who can afford that tax.
This is the most elitist economic policy I've ever heard of.
I'm a capitalist in believes in encouraging innovation and competition – what is your position?

Go Read "Peggy (8:22am)". She is an unrepentant Bushie. She is the core of the unthinking repub party. Go and read her comments as a window into your future if you continue to vote repub in this cycle. Wtih all the damage done to our county, the lies, the attack on our freedoms, the surreal shifting of blame, the lack of taking personnal responsibility for failed political policies…. and repubs like Peggy still don't learn. And they are actually proud of it! These people think it is God's will to vote repub…no matter what.

All you thinking repubs out there are about to get your butts handed to you because your party elite cannot change. They are arrogant in their politcal stance. And all the rest of you little repub monkeys follow along and OBEY without thinking. The one guy in your candidate ranks who does think for hinself, is right now being trashed by the "fair and balanced" network at the direction of your party elite.

For those repubs who do think, change party or GET OUT OF THE WAY! We will not have Bush III in the white house.

If you can't be Christian and a Democrat because Democrats support abortion (not true, they support a woman's right to choose), then you can't be a Christian and a Republican in this day and age, as the Republicans are supporting the murder of other human beings with their hawkish foreign policy.

Killing is killing, right?

ZB

Replacing the sales tax with an income tax, theoretically, is actually a proposal meant to aid the poor, not the elite. It's the rich who spend the most, and the tax would be imposed on the rich to a greater degree than the poor. One of the problems with the idea is that the tax will be evaded by a majority of the people and chaos will probably be the result. There are many other problems with the Fair Tax idea, more than can be discussed in a single blog post.

There are few credible economists who would support the implementation of this plan in America today, and our government wouldn't survive after eliminating the income teax totally. If Mike Huckabee were to become president, he wouldn't spend the time or the capital on the issue, and even if he did, there would be no way for him to get Congress to pass such a ludicrous bill.

Even though I like Huckabee (but I won't be voting for him), I see this as his greatest weakness. Nevertheless, the next president will not be eliminating the income tax and replacing it with a sales tax. We're blessed with a great political system that won't allow a single person to destroy the nation.

P.S. For those of you who are complaining about Dobson, Huckabee and the religious right, remember that Dobson has not endorsed Huckabee and that he was just talking about the energy and influence of the voting block.

Just another REASON why ALL churches and preachers should NOT enjoy there current TAX-EXEMPT status!

Create a Constitutional Amendment to BAN the TAX-EXEMPT status of ALL CHURCHES and PREACHERS!

"in god we trust" on the money was an illegal act during the McCarthy era to blatently discriminate unconstitutionally against non-christians. It will be undone soon. It's a stain on our nation.

Being a spiritual person who believes in God and that he created everything and also being a lesbian I would like to ask the christians who have posted above saying that being gay is an abomination, how can it be if we are born this way. Which means God created us just like he created you. I say this not only because I believe it but because there is proof. God created everyone right? So how do you explain hermorphadites, you know people born with both female and male sexual organs? Are they wrong no matter who they chose to love? And if you say yes then in essance you're saying God is wrong. Because He did after all create them just like He created you and me. And if I'm not mistaken God is never wrong and he does not make mistakes. God created ALL of us straight gay and hermorphidites. To deny that would almost be like denying that God existed.

I notice no Huckabee supporter has answered my 23% sales tax question.
C'mon, let's hear it!
Let's hear it for your elitist candidate! Let's hear it for taxing the poor into oblivion!

As Dobson and the Devil dance in delight over Pastor Huckabee's win,, one has to ponder if Americans will fall for neochristians the likes of Dobson, Robertson, Craig, Haggard and Vitter again dictating politics in America.

In their quest to negate the First Amendment of the Constitution, these "Christian leaders" are enemies of the United States no less than Muslim extremists who would also overthrow our basic freedom of religion.

ZB – Challenge accepted.

Huckabee has proposed eliminating the federal income tax and replacing it with an additional sales tax.

Study the basics of debating; incomplete or partial assertions detract from the credibility of your position.

to bad fiscal conservatives have no one to vote for,
it's a dark day for america when the choices are socialism or theocracy.
we are almost a scientific 3rd world country, if we are governed by a creationist we will be going down the same road as the islamic world into a intellectually stagnant
country who has outsource every important job, but at least the invisible magic man in the sky will be happy.

A 23% national sales tax is the most elitist thing I can think of.

Hey everybody!
Huckabee supporters WANT to pay a 23% sales tax and they WANT the GOVERNMENT to decide which products would be appropriate to TAX THE HECK OUT OF because they aren't "necessary". Because the government said so.
Because the government should decide!
Is Huckabee serious about this or is he just taking big money donations and lying? Either way, this guy is no populist.
More religious police! More Taliban! More government intrusion!
This guy is either:
1) a liar
2) an opportunist
3) an elitist, both economically and politically.

What aren't necessary, modest expenditures? I'm dying to know. Hey, why don't YOU tell ME, you elitist!

You don't want big government in your religion.

Here's a good summary of his deal:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-salestax24dec24,0,2218196.story?coll=la-home-nation

Excuse me, should have written 23% "sales tax" in the above post.
The challenge still stands.

More on the "Fair Tax"

Do you really want the government deciding what is appropriate consumption and what isn't? Join the socialist party if you want that.
Big government is a loser, whether right wing or left wing.

CHALLENGE TO HUCKABEE SUPPORTERS::
I bet you didn't you know your guy wants a 23% national income tax. Hasn't backed off it, in fact.
I challenge you to explain why this is
1) good for the little guy (because you are populists/socialists)
2) good for a consumer-led economy on the brink of recession

Go on, I'm waiting.

Here's a good summary of his deal:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-salestax24dec24,0,2218196.story?coll=la-home-nation

Ed,
God is intolerant of sin because He is holy, good and just. You missed the part of love the sinner, hate the sin, very conveniently. God loves all the people He created, including you, even if you don't believe He exists. What He doesn't like is the sin we all commit daily. Feel free to toss your Bible in the fire, you have that freedom in this country.

On another note, I do believe people can be Christians and be liberal Democrats. No one but God can judge the heart of another person. I personally know Christians from many different denominations that range the spectrum from liberal to conservative, they just emphasize different aspects of God. Instead of focusing on the differences it would be better if Christians could focus on common ground. We are members of one body, different parts with different roles, but serve the same God.

We do not have a "state" sponsored religion in this country. Separation of Church and State exists and anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what it really means. When approx. 80% of the population claims to be Christian, it is no surprise that Christian values will be an important factor in the lives of the people, and thus influence gov't to some degree. However, last I checked the gov't was not telling anyone they had to go to a particular church, or any church at all, so all the nonsense about keeping church and state separate is a bunch of hype. If you are not a Christian, that is fine, you can still live in this country and enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else, so I don't understand what the problem is. This country's laws were founded on Judeo-Christian values, but there is no gov't mandate forcing anyone to believe in God or go to church. I don't know of any Christians that want the gov't to mandate what they should believe and practice. We support the separation of church and state too.

I think after reading the blogs this election could very well stand or fall on a conflict of core values and belief systems. I think this election will determine which side (left) or (right) get their definition of family values. If the family consists of one man and one woman for life then this person would probably lean towards (right). If the family consists of two men or two women as parents then I ask the question if we look not at our immediate needs and what we want but to the next generations and what would be best for them it might answer some questions. Such as, how many talented Americans may never live to change our nation it if they die by abortion because a candidate supports it rather than stands against it? How many children will question their parental roots one day with same sex parents having raised them if the definition of marriage is redefined? Christians, if you support better economy, healthcare as the focus over family values couldn't our economy change for better or worse under any president? What will America look like 4 years from now what could change for the better with family values, such as no abortions, kids getting the proper mentoring, and character driven father and mother (he created them male and female it says in Genesis) in the forefront of leadership? Why can't you be a Christian and a Democrat? Democrat or Republican one should support their choices Biblically? Why can't the far left today do the Biblical thing and end abortion and homosexual mariages? You can. One thing for sure about Jesus every religion teaches is he came to give life (Gospel of John 10:10) Iraq has been bad, but abortion and aids due to sexually transmitted disease have ended more lives than Iraq. Love your neighbor as yourself, I guess if you don't value yourself you won't someone else, and people don't and government (Dem or Rep) is to protect the Golden Rule whether that's a decision of war or ending keeping marriage HIV free and imposing law against abortion (murder)! t So true Biblical family (preaching now to right and left) is about sacrificing one's immediate needs for your children's, etc, and this is the next generation, our choices always effect someone else for better or worse so ask yourself, "not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." (Dem President)!

Dobson advocates beating your children. He's done more damage to families than good. And how is the genocide of tens of thousands of Iraqis christ-like? Where in your bible does it say to murder your neighbor?

To Lara:

It's not "obvious" and if you've read even an ounce of what you call your most sacred text it would be quite clear that the moral virtues of a 4000 year old desert tribe and a 2000 year old messiah wouldn't endorse either of today's political parties. Why are you people so obsessed with gays and abortion, when there are so many people eating shell fish (also condemned)?

America has the world using a currency with the words "In God We Trust". Banks, marketplaces, tyrants and drug lords, even socialists and leftists subscribe to this symbol of America in the world. American Christians are merely acknowledging this fact instead of trying to expunge it.

"I live in Arkansas and have met Mr Huckabee. I normally consider myself a democrat ….HOWEVER I am supporting Huckabee because he is honest, creditable, and sincere."

You lie. No true Democrat, or thinking person for that matter, would vote for a religiously deluded, anti-science idiot like Mike Huckabee.

We're still suffering in this seventh year of "rule" by another deluded far-right religious extremist who thinks that "God wanted him" to illegally attack Iraq and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, all the while lying about the presence of WMD, lying about Saddam's involvement with Al Quaida, lying about Hussein's involvement in 9-11.

Huckabee doesn't believe in evolution. We're done with medieval rednecks trying to turn this country into a corporate fascism. Huckabee doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. PLEASE nominate him.

"We need more good people like him in our government."

A candidate who wants to control women is nowhere near a good person.

First off I am voting for Huckabee, Second of all you cannot be a DEMOCRAT
and a Christian because Democrats are for abortion and God hates abortion because it is the killing of life. Now some of you may say what about wars? The BIBLE is clear about wars there is a time for War AND a time for PEACE. No where does the Bible say kill the UNBORN. Democrats also want to legalize the gay agenda marriage, adoption etc etc. God said Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION !!!! So you DEMOCRATS claiming to be Christians YOU CANNOT have your cake and eat it to. So either chose the way of Jesus or stop crying your a Christian. Only those BORN AGAIN will see the kingdom of heaven John 3.
Time to take this country back since 1964 the prayers taking out of school there has been a rise in crime in our schools and our society. You people cannot even see without God in our society WE ARE DOOMED.
Have a wonderful day

All these anti-Dobson, anti-Christian, anti-evangelical, anti-Huckabee comments seem a bit intolerant for those who proclaim tolerance. Are we not allowed to have firm beliefs?

If someone does have firm beliefs, it would be wrong of them to ignore them–or they would not be strong beliefs. For you, it may be saying nasty things about the religious right. For me, it may be voting my conscience in matters of conscience.

If I feel there are doctors taking unborn baby's lives, and am convinced that it is very wrong, then I must forgo other policy issues and concern myself with the life or death. This is a conviction for many. It does not make them hate-mongers. In both parties and in all religions, there are hate-mongers. You will know them by their speech (that is, posts).

SALLY SAVAGE————-
I AM 100% WITH YOU!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU

It's quite obvious to me that Dobson is really (SECRETLY) speaking of the Hucksters win over Romney. These Evangelical (We are the only one's with the truth) Christians just simply have it out for Mitt Romney. They won't say it, but you can read it between their lines, see it in their eyes.

Interesting thing about it is that Mitt Romney NEVER blasts back and attacks the Evangelicals about their faith. He's bigger than that, he's got true Integrity, not shirt sleeve integrity (Huck makes the attack ad, then doesn't play it cuz he's too much a Christian, but shows it to the press, knowing it will be aired for free). Plus Romney proves his belief that the candidates faith is NOT to be the issue for the President of the United States.

Mitt Romney can help our country be great once again. He would NOT preach from the Oval Office. Mitt states facts against his opponents, he doesn't ATTACK them. The Evangelical Christians are subtley attacking Mitt's faith in their sneaky back door way.

The Evangelicals will hand the nation to the Democrats if that's what it takes to beat Mitt, solely based on their differences in faith. OMG this is craziness!

Isn't that pathetic? There isn't a single one of them that can convince me otherwise. I've heard their lies about Morman's for decades. They are duped into believing they can judge a man (Commandment's instruct NOT to) as long as they all do it together – about his faith. They do this same thing to the Catholics and the Muslim's and the Universalists and the list goes on and on and on and on.

Mitt is a GOOD man and worthy of all people looking into what he can do to help our country. Trust him with the USA, Huck should go back to church and ask for forgiveness, in my opinion.

I believe if the Jesus I know came to the US today, he would be pretty livid about the actions and sin of these Christian 'judges'. It's not completely their fault, they've been duped by the teachers like Huck and Dobson, Swaggert, Baker, Falwell, Haggert.

Right-on Chris in Denver! I live in Colorado, too and am sick and tired of James Dobson and his empire of hate (disguised as christianity). The Huckster couldn't have won Iowa without the evangelicals and he appeals to a very narrow wing of the Republican party. If by some "miracle" he's elected president, I'm moving to Canada.

BEN & JARED
NO. YOU CAN'T BE A LEFTIST AND CHRISTAIN……….CHRISTIAN MEANS CHRIST LIKE……….JESUS WAS NOT A MURDERER OR GAY…………….

LEFTIST BELIEVE IN ABORTION & GAY MARRAIGE…………..(DEM. TICKET)

"THOU SHALL NOT KILL"…………I KNOW ,,,WHAT ABOUT RAPE AND GETTING PREGNANT? WELL,,, ALOT OF COLLEGE STUDIES ON THE SUBJECT IN THE 90's..SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT FIND ANY REPORTS THAT A WOMEN GOT PREGNANT AFTER BEING RAPED BECAUSE A WOMANS BODY WILL SHUT DOWN AND WILL NOT LET THE EGG TO ENTER THE ORAVIES…..SOME WOMEN AND GIRLS SAID THEY GOT PREGNANT AFTER BEING RAPED ONLY TO COVER UP THAT THEY HAD SEX………….THIS STUDY WAS ALSO BACKED BY THE PAST SURGEON GENERAL OF THE USA………………. THINK ABOUT IT………..

NOW ABOUT HOMOSEXUAITY AND GAY MARRAIGE……………

FROM THE HOLY BIBLE………….

Do you not know that the wicked will not inhert the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral ,nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor prostitutes, nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS, northieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor swindlers will inhert the kingdom of God…….
1Corinthians 6:9-10 niv

HOPE ::: We all can be saved turning from your sins and accept the blood of Christ

I know Huckabee will need help,,, as everyone will….. but i would rather vote for someone that truly believes what he says,, instand of saying what people want to hear and not really believing what they say………..
VOTE YOUR HEART AND YOUR ISSUES NOT FOR SOMEONE YOU THINK WILL WIN……this is not a game or a bet…………ITS OUR COUNTRY

GOD BLESS US ALL

Hey Lev – check your math – Don't make comments that are so obivously wrong. Your other comments are ignored when you make boasts about Democrats outnumbering Republicans 2:1

Results show
Barack Obama 940
John Edwards 744
Hillary Clinton 737

Mike Huckabee 39,814
Mitt Romney 29,405
Fred Thompson 15,521

That means Huckabee beat Obama by approximately 40:1

We lose credibility in battling when we miss even the most basic of facts.
And yes- once we get out of the bible belt…….it will be interesting to see how things go. I am curious to see the candidates deal with the states in my area. The Border and immigration should separate the real from the wannabes cause there isnt a simple answer.

I am fed up with these so-called Christians who are so busy loving God they have no time to love their neighbors. What a bunch of phonies!

Why does everyone make out Huckabee to be a religious zealot? Yeah it worries me a bit that he is an ordained Baptist minister, but overall he seens to promote enjoying your life to the fullest a message that resonates with everyone. Plus he has some un-republican points of view like supporting the NEA, and raising taxes in some cases to better fund highway construction. I think he would be a pretty good President aa long as he doesn't bow down to the Moral Majority.

Dobson said: "Christians remain a powerful force in American politics"

Dobson SHOULD have said: Christians remain a BIGOTED force in American politics.

James Dobson? How many of you really know anything about him? He has done more for families in this nation than any other individual ever. Comparing him to Hitler, Pol Pot, or any other dictator or horrible leader is just showing ignorance.

Get a grip people and do some actual research. It's so popular to bash Christians..go find someone else to beat up..instead of people who actually give a rip about others.

Jesus was not a "social conservative" and worked hard to convince people to turn away from multi-theism. He was a progressive of his time and his current day equivalent would be an athiest. And anyone thinking that we should still be in Vietnam is just looney. Theocratic wars are not the answer to theocracy,education is. That's why social conservatives oppose education.

Jeez Peggy ! Are you married ? If not, how about you and me ……. good post !

I'm kind of Libertarian, and don't believe in legislating morality or immorality, except where we are talking of one party harmong another. Again, to the naysayers, I think Huckabee in many ways could be called a Christian centrist when it comes to his actual policies. To highlight the stupidity of some of the above critics of the Christain right, and their statements that Huckabee places low without that vote, let me also point out that without the black vote, Lyndon Johnson would have been the last Democratic president, if even then. Is it a stupid argument … YES, on both counts.

Applauding each 'voice' in America being heard is what our country's underpinings rest on. Whether the current ovation is from James Dobson for religious conservatives' vote 'counting' or from Jesse Jackson for African American's interests being highlighted or women aligning themselves with Hilary in hopes of femine interests being served, the reality is that our country is diversified in gender, ethnicity and values and these differences play a part in each vote that is cast behind the booth's curtain. Choosing respresentation that reflects our personal values and national vision is core to the American political process.

I would, however, appreciate more restraint on the part of community leaders in their (self-appointed) representation of a particulary 'groups' political position. I have heard spokeswomen suggesting a female gender mandates I vote for Hilary, an African American heritage demands an Obama ticket and a religious core limits my choice to Huckabee. Which watershed issue rises to capture my flag is solely my decision; I would prefer limelight leaders vote their choice and conscience and not represent me in their public comments.

I, like many, have a strong conviction about these elections. As we know, our country is in critical crisis on many fronts. I will say up front that I support Mike Huckabee. I realize that all the candidates have need of growth in all areas. After the elections in Iowa I was praying about my concerns for the new president and this is what I heard from the Lord, "Remember my King David? He was a shepherd boy when I sought him out". A shepherd boy, that's pretty amazing. Then I was reminded that Our Lord said, "Man looks on the outward; I look at the heart'. I wonder if Mike Huckebee is the man who is seeking God's heart and maybe that is why he is God's man? Could it be? Also, remember David was not perfect and right at all times, but he knew how to seek God, confess his sin and receive forgiveness and instruction from Him. I think that is critical for the next leader of so great a nation.

To those naysayers who speaketh without knowledge, if you study the entire Fair Tax proposal, it is exceedingly practical and do-able. It protects the poor, and taxes only consumption above a modest level. Bottom line, those that spend the most and live lavishly will pay the most taxes. It will make the U.S. an exceedingly appealing place to locate business and do business. Its difficulties lie in the fact that it takes away the ability of Congress to sell tax favors, and it reveals does away with imbedded and hidden taxes. Most of it, it empowers the people, which is contrary to the wishes of many politicians, who essentially want you to need them.

Amazing how those that claim to want the most tolerence from others are the first to slander and shout down those with whom they disagree.

Jesus was the greatest socialist of them all. Which is actually left wing,

Jesus was a social conservative.

Wow lots of input here. Lots of stupid comments, too. Exciting times. With Huckabee and Obama winning in Iowa. Hopeful. Relief Hillary lost. The change message is always part of the race. But what kind of Change? Would it be good for U.S.? With Obama stating early on to increase foreign aid [Readers Digest : Meet the Canidates]. Withdraw from Iraq now? Just what would that ACCOMPLISH? Well, It could put the terrorist in our front yard. Not to mention a repeat of mistake of Vietnam withdrawal. Does anyone bother to consider the rarely told number of Iraquis that have died hoping for what we in America have/ yet many trash? The Clintons did a Grande job of downsizing our NON DRAFTED/VOLUNTARY Military and letting the terrors training camps flourish. You can bash Bush all you want but has 9/11 been so quickly forgotten? What he walked into when he became President of our great nation.The Planned attacks that have been stopped. America has a much bigger problem within our borders. Are you watching out for your neighbors back? It doesn't matter to Islam what kind of Christian you call yourself. Doesn't anyone know World History.To them we are all 'infidels'. Read their Holy Book. America has in many was become TOO FREE. . Protecting animals and killing human babies in our country.What kind of stupidity is that? A Legal system that too often doesn't protect the most vunerable part of our society.Tolerating evil,sin of all sortsOOPs excuse me evil,sin is politically incorrect. No, we cannot legislate Morality thus we make laws against Immorality. Wake up and understand why the terrorist are after our nation.

After you complain, it would be a good idea to thank God, our provider for our brave men & women who are protecting our freedom to sit in America and write these comments. As, for the Bible Belt comments…I'll not comment but I'm glad to be living in the Bible Belt! Many who have made wild comments obviously haven't read a Bible seeking to find Truth. Remember, Truth is not dependent on our beleiving it to be true. Truth is Truth. It's still Jan. 5th, 2008 whether you beieve it or not!

I hope you will post this. Not censor it. Thanks. Still Proud to be an American.

Lynn-Thank you for stating that the bible teaches intolerance! That's a classic! A book meant to impart good values has been indeed butchered so badly by opportunistic whackos that it has become a negative force on humanity. Time to toss it in the fire. Don't worry,your imaginary friend in the sky will write you a new one.

Lou in Tulsa OK states "The single thing America needs more than anything in leadership, is someone who tells the truth and knows his stuff."

There are none so blind as those who will not see … tells the truth? Ha ha ha!
Preacher Mike says, in that "holier than thou" voice that he will abstain from negative ads – except to show it to the reporters (free coverage) and on 3 Iowa stations!

The truth? He whines he didn't know that rapist would murder someone (he was told by victims that this could happen) and that he didn't pressure the parole board (also not true.)

Knows his stuff? He "knows" the world is only 6000 years old and women should submit to their husbands. When it comes to Iran, Pakistan or crossing a picket line because the thought the writer's strike was over, Mike knows nothing about the important stuff.

Vote for Mike if you believe he has the God nod, but don't ever tell me he is either truthful or knows anything!

Speaking as a Christian, I pray daily that Huckabee is NOT and I repeat NOT our next president. I fear that his own zealous religiosity will interfere with our country's vision of separation of church and state. Some of the mans comments regarding his vision for this country are truly frightening. Such as….."I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ." My comment to that as a Christian is who the heck are you to do that for him?
My God and My Christ is big enough to do the job him or herself….?????
So there are many Christians out there that wince at Huckabees comments.
He is a real threat to our countries constitution….frightening really when you think of
it….Pardon me while I go pray again….on my knees this time….

Lawyerchik. Carter disaster? You mean the strategic oil reserve?The breaking of the Bell monopoly? The deregulation of the airline and trucking industries? You must be good at studying law because you obviously get your history lessons from Rupert Murdock. Bwahahahaha

Nope, we of the far left are not surprised. I predicted this on a cnn blog this summer, even before the straw poll. The people that are surprised (and afraid) are the republicans. It sure is nice ti see you guys so divided.

Alex–Texas January 4, 2008 7:41 pm ET

Ryan from NY: We are not in the middle east to stop religious extremism, we are in the middle east to rescue people from oppression and violence. To liberate a nation.

Alex, might I ask what you think spawns the oppression and violence in the middle east?

By the way, when you say "liberate a nation," which one are you talking about? Or is that the nondescript response for all of our aggressive actions?

While the American economy goes down the sink and Wall Street plummets this year, it's so comforting to know that we have scores of narrow-minded paranoid dupes who are actively campaigning (especially in the South) against the Mormon candidate. It was the well-concerted effort by many Evangelical ministers in Iowa who thwarted the Romney campaign. We all know Pope Dobson was rooting for the Huckster from the beginning. He finally came out of the closet and is gloating about the "Christian' candidate. I'm just sure the Huckster will use his business savvy to mastermind our complex economy with his divinity degree from Oachita Baptist College. Then, he will deploy his cerebral army of has-beens, like Ric Flair (professional wrestler), Chuck Norris, etc., to sell scores of cheese wiz in the can, by the caseloads to the Chinese, so that they don't just dump their American dollars on the world market, as its value continue to tank. After all, Chuck will give them all a swift kick. Besides, I'm just sure the whole world will magically be charmed by the Gomer Pyle, with the smile and want to buy cloudy Arkansas diamonds at full price. Besides, we don't need no Wall Street elitists, right Huck. Just play the class warfare card. I'm just sure your Jesus would. South Carolina is next. Praise the Lord and stop the Mormon cultist, right?
LET THE FRAGMENTATION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BEGIN.

Huckelberry has to constantly ask his aids what the names of the capitol cities in the middle east are, he has to be "advised" about who is where and what the "name of that one feller is" you know the head of state? Ahhhh and he is the potential nominee of the GOP? I have many neighbors who are dems and they are just laughing hysterically at the GOP right now, and all I can do is bow my head and say yup Huck is in the lead of the GOP as his aids help him try to figure out who all them there fellers are leading those far off nations.

Please: MITT, McCain, or Juliani save the GOP before we become the laughing stock of the world with Huck as our leader!

Shhhh dont tell evangelicals that there is room in God's loving arms for others, they think they are the only ones "worthy" to be Christian… shhhh careful to not burst their bubble!

All I have to say is that I am a Christian and I don't personally believe in abortion or gay marriage. But, where in the Bible does it say for me (or other Christians) to convert people who do believe those things are Ok into Christians? God tells us to love all people regardless of their beliefs. Yes, I am a Republican and a Christian, but I don't believe in overturning Roe v. Wade… If you want that for your life- go ahead. I don't even care if you want to teach evolution in schools- I will teach my kids what I want them to learn at home regarding that issue on my time. But, in regards to politics- it is long overdue for Christians to stop trying to push our religion on other people in our country or in other countries. Can't we all just get along and love our neighbor's as ourselves. That is what Jesus said is that greatest commandment. And we (the US) have some very poor choices for president this year. Huckabee is ridiculous- they all are. Dobson needs to hear some advice and that is to get out of politics. It is not his place and it never will be. Our religion does not belong in our politics. Let's keep our religion in our homes and teach it to our kids- wait a second… We are too busy to do that anymore. Guess there isn't any instant gratification in that, huh? What have we become? Lazy in everything including our politics. Why can't we get a nominee that actually cares about bringing our country together and not dividing it even more? Maybe I need to start looking at other parties besides the GOP.

Huckabee is not as frightening as James Dobson because at least Huckabee remembers some of what Christ taught us. Christ was the biggest liberal of all time. He chastised the rich for their greed and their keeping too much as their share. He chastised religious leaders who claimed to know the mind of God and who sat in judgment. The Religious Conservatives crucified Christ 2000 years ago and given the chance, they would do it again today.

Can't be a Christian and support the left? How's that? Didn't Christ teach to love all … even if they are homosexual, prostittute, have gone through abortion, etc. He loves and forgives us even when we crucified him. The lesson is 'love' … and 'forgiveness'. Learn to love them all and serve them all.

Anyone can be a christian, far left or right. Being a christian simply means taking a book translated many times over the centuries and twisting what it says to live anyway you want, hate anyone you want, look down on anyone you want, etc . . .

people want change …..In current polling, most Americans have a very low opinion of the Senate…of which Obama is part of…… much lower than their view of the President. If people want real change, they will have to focus on a Governor to give it to them. America has NO faith in their Congressional leaders (ie: Obama, Clinton)
Dobson is right on.

Huckabee is a Christian and he is definitely better than Bush. Because he is a pastor, he will utter the word 'God' here and there, but I don't think he will lead a theocracy. However, I don't think he'll last long because the Republican party seem to have issues with him. What a shame – such a nice guy.

Obama is strong enough to change the Democratic party, I don't know if Huckabee can. Good luck, Huckabee.

I am part of the large number of Christians in the Democratic Party. That might come as a great shock to the far right by Dobson's assumption; however, it should not be if you consider the record number of Democrats in Iowa last night. The difference is we understand the importance of separation of church and state while respecting everyone's freedom to make their own decisions about religion.

What the fundies don't understand is that one can vote for freedom in this nation (abortion, "sexual perversion" etc.) while not believing in them in one's personal life.

I live in Arkansas and have met Mr Huckabee. I normally consider myself a democrat ….HOWEVER I am supporting Huckabee because he is honest, creditable, and sincere. He helped Arkansas. We need more good people like him in our government.

It sometimes appears as though the old KKK may still be alive and well in the good ‘ol South these days STILL…judging by all the bigotry going around.
Seeing Huckabee and his supporters(business partners-Huck doesn’t have to spend a dime like others, the televangelist network pays his way along with all the leftist media outlets/publications freebies…) attacking/slandering/slurring a candidate based solely upon their affiliation with a particular minority religious group (Mormon) as a means to win an election because the “Klan” can’t seem to win in any other way is truly sad.
After the “Khristian Krusading Klan” led by their Grand Wizard Wannabe, The High Huckabeast and his faithful pseudo-supremacist sidekick Jon-Boy McCane and their lethal lieutenant/enforcer/Chuckles igNorramus get the Republican nomination secured by “cross-burning that thar ‘evil’ Mormon right on out” of their Party (…just wait Jews, blacks, hispanics, catholics, hindus, asians, protestants, muslims, etcetera, YOU just might be next after these crusading bigots are done with the MORMON minority group that they are CURRENTLY focused on eliminating…)…
…THEN after they’ve had their way with the Mormons these same cross-burning/bearing, bigots/supremacists can concentrate on OBAMA after they’re done with Mitt Romney and his family…any bets there will be many allusions to OBAMA having “possible MUSLIM/ISLAM” connections??? Or church affiliation? Where he went to school??? His heritage??? How about his ETHNICITY??? ANY BETS AMERICA???
I truly hope that ALL AMERICANS left right and center, of ALL religions, colors, cultures, ethnicity can STAND TOGETHER and UNITE against this ugly racist/bigoted BEAST that has reared it’s grotesque head in OUR nation as of late.
This particular Beast was SUPPOSED to have been buried back in the 60’s/70’s during the civil rights movement (which the Romney family was influential in – hence the reason white-supremacist evangelicals hate them so much).
MY America is a nation which is supposed to represent EQUALITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PEOPLE…not just white southern supremacist evangelicals.
Romney and his father, and his entire family have fought for and stood by OTHER minority groups throughout their lives.
Now it would be a wonderful miracle that could only happen in OUR country…AMERICA…if all those same minorities that the Romney family has stood by over the years and generations, could somehow find the courage, and somehow find it in their hearts to STAND BY THEM IN RETURN in this their time of need… as they are being attacked left, right, and center by these dishonest, HATRED FILLED BIGOTS. Please consider it America. Please.
I have but three candidates I care for as I have stated before. Obama, Romney, and Thompson. Any of the three would be good for ALL Americans (regardless of color/religion). I could vote Democrat or Republican and I WILL go for the candidate more so than the party as I have on occasion in the past.
The candidates that will win my vote will be those that stand for ALL Americans, not just ONE COLOR, or ONE RACE, or ONE RELIGION.
America let’s all stand together for one another and whether it’s Obama or Romney you want to lead…let’s show these hate-mongoring bigots that they can’t ever succeed in the type of class/Race/religious warfare that they are attempting to instigate amongst our society. They wish to divide America into special interest groups in order to control us all. Let us all unite as EQUALS and AMERICANS and show them what for!!!! May this message somehow find a way into your hearts…we could all use a little more PEACE and COMPASSION and KINDNESS in this world. Here’s to a UNITED AMERICA!!!

If you take away these bible thumpers, Huckabee finishes fourth.

All others that stated that religion is not the sole barometer for choosing a candidate, 3 to 1 voted for Romney.

Huckabee will be an afterthought real soon.

A follow up to my earlier factual post, I am a Conservative leaner that also HAPPENS to be a Christian.

My disdain is not for believing in ones faith or NO FAITH, but basing your whole political ideology or thought process on that alone is asinine.

The media's love fest with this guy will be over real soon.

Mr.Huckabee and Mr.Obama will in final – Mark my words.
Becuase both are having christan supports.

One final comment…

Dobson can make statements about his "powerful force" all he wants to.

It sickens me that these so called preachers who are really political organizers get TAX EXEMPT STATUS. What they get away with in endorsing candidates and telling people how to vote is sickening. They BREAK the law.

How do I know? Because I went to those churches and heard them tell us who to vote for. Recently, my brother left the Baptist Church in 2004 when his Pastor told the Congregation from the pulpit who NOT to vote for. He listed everyone on the ballot but GW Bush as though he had acted within the law.

Yes friends, there are almost actor equivalents within American evangelical circles that do resemble the extremism I was sent to fight–they just have not gone to guns and bombs yet–except for abortion clinics and their doctors.

I cannot help but be amused by the angry comments made by a number of people here. It's perfectly fine to have your point of view, however to express it in such an unsophisticated manner does little to encourage others to share your opinion. Such bizarre comparisons with middle-eastern extremism, and rude name-calling are poor tactics to employ in trying to get a point across. However, given that I tend to lean to the "religious right" I can only further encourage the rude and uninformed to continue their inappropriate rants.

Why is it that the Jehovas Whitnesses dont meddle in politics or anything to do with the goverment ?Maybe they are doing what God truely wants them to do.I have never seen it written anywhere where Jesus said to over throw the Romans or vote them out.

How many evangelicals voted for Democrats in Iowa? We'll never know. And if things don't change, we won't know in future primaries either. Iowa has many evangelicals. Many more Democrats (239,000) voted than Republicans (112,000). But the press is making a big deal about how most evangelicals picked Mike Huckabee. This is based on polling of only Republicans. If there are many evangelicals in Iowa and twice as many Iowans voted for a Democrat, then probably many evangelicals voted for Democrats. (In an informal poll at Christianity Today, Obama only trails Huckabee). But we'll never know how many evangelicals voted for Democrats because all of the media organizations use the same polling data from Edison Media Research and Mitofsky Interational and the pollsters didn't ask Democratic voters anything about their religion. Worse, if things don't change in the polling, we won't know for any information about the religious preferences of voters for the other primaries either because Edison/Mitofsky is the only one doing polling for all of those primaries as well.

Chris and Ryan I so agree. The Republican party is almost done and handed over to a taliban like philosophy. It is about 1/3rd of that party–exactly Huckabee's Iowa numbers. If McCain or someone else can't win that party is going to become the extreme of the extreme and a Huckabee Presidency–oh dear.

I am christian and I am a democrat and left the republican party 5 years ago when I saw it for what it was becoming due to the Dobsonites, Falwells, and Robertsons–a bigoted party that little by little resembles the extremism we are fighting. Of course that may have been because some of them in my area wanted to label me as not a christian because I am a latter day saint. Even when they publicly listened to me announce Christ as my savior they could not see nor hear it. They are truly the blind leading the blind into a ditch.

I grew up evangelical until age 16 so I truly know what I am talking about, their ideas and talk toward people like Romney and Guiliani are definately hateful and bigoted. I know, because I heard it all my young life and it is the same now at jobsites I am sent to where nobody knows I am a mormon and I hear their talk. It is quite amazing just how much profanity preceeds the word mormon or catholic out of an evangelical's mouth at a remote worksite when he does not know who is amongst the crowd. It is startling. It is part of why Huckabee also won.

I went to war in 1991 and stopped Saddam and Iraq the first time and when my number came up the retirement injury came my way and I was medevacced out.

Boy am I glad I am not part of this now in Iraq and boy am I glad that I am not part of a party that refers to left leaning veterans and soldiers as Phony Soldiers and exalts a guy like Huckabee precisely because of his religion and not because of his politics. This is a guy who has so little understanding of Islam and terrorism and the middle east that it FRIGHTENS me–an Army arabic linguist and Middle East expert. This is a guy whose doctrines will run his decisions and he follows nuts like Tim LaHaye that thirst for Armageddon against Muslims and China.

I would rather vote for a man like McCain who will base decisions in reality and not be swayed by any of the extremists out there and knows the suffering of war.

GEAUX HUCK AND GEAUX WITH THE FAIR TAX!!
ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!!!

I know many soldiers who are proud of the work they've done in Iraq, who have seen first-hand the appreciation of Iraqis terrorized by their own. My brother was wounded by a roadside bomb. He's home now and he is happy that he could help those people. And you folks (whose only knowledge of the war was gained while sitting in your la-z-boy or logging on to cnn.com) have the audacity to call Bush and his staff "war-mongers" and "criminals".

Also, the Bible states: "You shall not murder." That is why Bible-believing Christians are not Pro-Abortion.

Also, if you'd open your eyes, you could see how Nature proves that homosexual behavior is a perversion. To call someone "bigoted" for opposing the behavior is nonsensical.

It almost appears as though the KKK might still be alive and well in America these days judging by all the bigotry. Attacking/slandering/slurring a candidate based solely upon their affiliation with a particular minority religious group as a means to win an election because the Klan can't seem to win any other way is truly sad.

After the "Khristian Krusading Klan" led by their neo-Grand Wizard HuckaBeast and his faithful pseudo-supremacist sidekick Jon-Boy McCane and their white hate wearin' Sheriff/enforcer Chuckles -ig-Norr-amu-is get the Republican nomination secured by "cross burning that thar evil Mormon out" of the Party (…just wait Jews, blacks, hispanics, catholics, hindus, asians, protestants, muslims, etcetera…you'll be next after these bigots are done with the Mormon minority group…)
…THEN these very same bigots/supremacists can concentrate on OBAMA…any bets there will be many allusions to "possible MUSLIM/ISLAMIC" connections??? Or HIS church affiliation? How about his ETHNICITY??? ANY BETS AMERICA???

I truly hope that ALL AMERICANS left right and center, of ALL religions, colors, cultures, ethnicity can STAND TOGETHER FOR EACH OTHER and UNITE against this ugly racist/bigoted BEAST that has reared it's grotesque head in OUR nation. A nation which is supposed to represent EQUALITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PEOPLE…not just white supremacist evangelicals from the old South.

Romney and his father, and his entire family have fought for and stood by MANY OTHER minority groups throughout their lives.
Now it would be a wonderful miracle… that could only happen in OUR country…AMERICA…if all those very same minorities that the Romneys have stood by over the years could somehow find the courage, and find it in their hearts to STAND BY THE ROMNEY'S IN RETURN… in this, their time of need as they are being attacked left, right, and center by HATRED FILLED BIGOTS
Please consider it America. Please.
I have but three candidates I care for as I have stated before. Obama, Romney, and Thompson. Any of the three would be good for Americans (regardless of color/religion). PERSONALLY I could go Democrat OR Republican, and I will go for the candidate more so than their party as I have done at times in the past.

The candidates that will win MY vote will be those that stand for us ALL…for ALL Americans, not just ONE COLOR, or ONE RACE, or ONE RELIGION.

America let's all stand together for one another, stand up for each other, shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand…and whether it's Obama or Romney…let's show these hate-mongoring bigots that they can't ever succeed in the type of class/religious/racial warfare that they are now attempting to instigate amongst our society.

They wish to divide America into many small special interest groups in order to enable them to control us all.
Let us all unite as EQUALS and as PROUD, PATRIOTIC, AMERICANS and show them what the he** for!!!!

May this message somehow find a way into your hearts…we could all use a little more PEACE and COMPASSION and KINDNESS in this world.
Here's to a UNITED AMERICA!!! I hope the new year finds you all peaceful and prosperous….

As usual, Dobson doesn't seem to realize that the WASP surge for Huckabee doesn't reflect the rest of the nation, just Iowa.

It'll be a far different story in New Hampshire on Tuesday and even in Wyoming tomorrow.

Dr. Dobson and most of the bloggers here still do not get it. The support for Huckabee is not just from evangelicals. The support for Huckbee represents a rift and a shift in the GOP much the same as the Obama win reflects change in the Democrats. There is a dynamic new paradigm taking place in American politics. You see it in things like the Lou Dobbs led movement to go independant. The American voter is so sick and tired of the old multi millionaire proffessional politicos who get elected , get richer, make their cronies richer and say oft he American middle class working man "let them eat cake" The Obama/Huckabee wins in Iowa represent a quiet revolution to bring the rule of the nation back to the common working man and out of the hands of the pseudo royalty elitist politicians.

Please be advised the elite media and socialist liberals are unknowing exposing themselves by continually referring to Governor Huckabee as “a Baptist minister”, “preacher”, “ordained minister”, and other religious titles.

The elite media and talk show hosts are highlighting Governor Huckabee’s faith in God to alienate large segments of Americans from Huckabee. For over forty (40) years the elite media and socialist liberals have attempted to remove Christianity from America to replace it with a more socialist agenda. They will not allow their forty year investment in the “dark-side” to just fade away without a big fight.

Hmmm, seems to be an awful lot of intolerance by "tolerant" Democrats here.
Oh … tolerant of you if you agree with THEIR point of view only . Ah. Now I get it.
Sorry, I guess I'm just not a smart as you.

Jesus (not evangelical Church-ianity) died for intolerant Democrats too. =)

Lefties … open the NIV, NASB, KJV, ASV, NLT, Net Bible, Message and
ACTUALLY READ IT YOURSELF, then speak to the compatibilty
of what you read there … and far left views.

BTW, – Huckabee will win the evnagelical Christians in NH too but Romney will win the primary … most of southern NH is now just a county of MA now anyway, and MA is nothing if not provincial and it just can't pass up the opportunity to boost a favorite son.

Separation of Church and State!

We could take pressure off medicare and social security if these well meaning "ministers" had a tax rate applied to their "funds" Pat Robertson alone could help over 250,000 medicaid folks if his "organization" paid taxes like everyone else. Keep church and state separate or take away their tax exempt status.

I am a God-fearing Christian who strongly believes that some of these"ministers" are going to have a hard time explaining things when or if they get "up there" I bet Jerry Falwell is still trying to talk his way in.

I am soooo tried of the Radical Christian Rght highjacking the Republican party.

Its the Ecomony Dumby!

Wake-up!

To those who are saying that you can't be a TRUE Christian and a democrat:

Are you saying that one can NOT believe in Jesus as Lord and subscribe to liberal ideology?

How dare anyone call anyone else's faith into question when they disagree with you politically…

Too many people have used Christ's name to push their agenda. And that is truly threatening America, not things like gay marriage.

I agree with you, Open Minded. There are too many people who claim to be open-minded and not discriminatory. But, in reality, they've just switched targets. Instead of being harsh toward gay marriage, abortion, etc., they're instead harsh to Christians who believe in heterosexual marriage and a baby's right to life.

I guess those people's open-mindedness doesn't include the ideas of Christians too? You'll be open-minded about everything else, but not about THOSE ideas.

Talk about IDIOTS. You people who are ranting about a Christian man who won the Caucus had better wake up and smell the roses. The single thing America needs more than anything in leadership, is someone who tells the truth and knows his stuff. While Huckabee just happens to have been a pastor at one point in his life, he has been in politics a LOT longer, and is STILL CLEAN. That comes from his religious roots and his belief system. Why is that so hard to understand or accept? Would you prefer some woman who's running just to prove women can do it? Would you prefer a sophomore black guy running just because of his color? The truth is, Biden is the most well rounded and experienced and honest Democrat, but no one notices him.

If you look back at the "character" of Bill or for that matter Hillary, or any of a lot of other politicians, you would be hard pressed to find anyone to hold a candle to Huckabee. My advice, if you have any brains at all, and that appears doubtful based on your blogs, is to look at the MAN, not at his religion. For that matter, at least he has one he believes in and actually LIVES. We can do a LOT worse than Huckabee, and probably will considering the level of mentality exhibited here. Sad day in America when a good man is castigated because he is GOOD and stands for something. You people are NUTS.

Posted By Lou from Kansas

Lou…question for you, why did Huckabee try and have sanctions put on the ethics commitee investigating him? Why did Huckabee smash several hard drives right before leaving office as Governor? Why did Huckabee claim to know nothing about Mormons with the NEW YORK TIMES, yet was a key-note speaker at an anti-Mormon rally in 1998….see the pattern, even if we focus on the MAN and not the religion as you say, he is far from honest and upright as you say. And we haven't even gotten into his decision making abilities….

Do your homework, you represent many many individuals who have voted for or who are planning to vote for Huckabee. He is a very nice guy, truly…but don't judge a book by it's cover. Start listening to some of his answers as well. I will not say who to vote for, except that please don't make it Huckabee!!

Will we ever see the true, trusted American in the White House again. I mean what happened to American integrity…is it gone for good.

The problem with today's politics is: there is no real difference between the candidates. They are all career politicians beating the same "change" drum. Each and everyone of the candidates would call himself/herself a moderate. No matter who you vote for you will get the same result when they get into office. Now we have a big spending Republician President, and a Democratic Congress unable to pass any meaningful legislation when they control both houses. We need to get away from the electorial college and let a person become the President on who they are: be it a die hard conservative, a wild eyed tax and spend liberal, or in a marijuana cloud, consumtion tax libertarian. Citizens have a right to be voting for a true representation of who that candidate is, not a representation of how the electorate is in a particular state.

Alot of people called Chris out on asking about you can't be "far left and be a Christian?", but Chris made a convenient mis-quote. The actual Dobson quote referred to "conservative Christian." At the least it should pretty obvious to anyone that "far left" and "conservative Christian" are opposites.

I mean, if you are "far left" do you also identify yourself as a "conservative Christian?" For instance, if you are "far left" you talk about a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body or "her reproductive rights" and if you are a conservative Christian you talk about what you perceive to be a baby human's "right to life". I just can't see how you can be a staunch supporter of both positions.

I'm nauseated by the press constantly trying to paint Huckabee into a corner to favor their establishment candidates. The man won against a terrific headwind of special interest groups, media distortions, and outright lies by his opponents. I watched a caucus meeting via live stream online that was so unfair with Romney posters all over the walls and the officials all wearing Romney pins. If the process had been fair, Huckabee would have won 50% of the vote. He is the real deal. Get aboard or get run over.

Hey "Open Minded" (6:24pm), I went back and read many of the previous posts, and there were certainly more hateful things being said by those with clear Republican leanings. Good try at the right-wing tactic of obfuscation and lies: but indeed you will get much more acceptance and open-mindednes from the dems…… we just don't have much acceptance for the continued political stupidity that has come out of the current white house, and we are not so open-minded that we blindly accept falsehoods from people like you who would insert another Republican puppet in the white house to continue the ongoing disaster. I guess for real open-mindedness, you prefer your friend Paul………..

Hey "Paul" (6:10pm), you nutjobs on the right who try to claim religeon as your own exclusive purview are really out of touch. If it didn't affect the rest of us, I would hope you get your wish to live under a government that was led by your brand of christian-facism. In the meantime, read the New Testament and compare Jesus' teaching with the paltforms and policies of the two parties and the political rhetoric we've been listening to over the past 10-20 years, and then look America in the face and tell us that Jesus was more rightwing than leftwing. I suspect you are just another far-right nutjob whose learned everything he knows by the Rovian/Dobsonian principle of "repeat dogma endlessly" until lies become truth.

The process of your so-called Democracy leaves me depressed. While you all twitter about your favourite 'choice' for President, all I can remember is the message THE PEOPLE sent to your nation. The people asked your politicians to get the young men and women out of Iraq. I don't know, what are the numbers now ? almost 4,000 dead and I'm guessing 35,000 wounded. This is a sad day for peace loving people who really 'believe' in Democracy!!! I just keep thinking of all those vets out there struggling to get their lives back. They are the only ones who would get my vote. Wake up America! PLEASE!!

Vote for the Huckster,he will be easiest to beat in November !

Open Minded: you thought wrong, and open minded is another way of saying that you don't have any idea what you believe and you stand for nothing.

It is true that Dobson thought Huckabee had no chance and therefore announced that Focus on the Family would not endorse a political candidate this election.

However, with Huckabee's rising success and popularity it makes perfect sense that Dobson would ally himself with the one candidate who stands for Christian values and the strengthening of the family.

Ryan from NY: We are not in the middle east to stop religious extremism, we are in the middle east to rescue people from oppression and violence. To liberate a nation.

If we are to keep America a free nation, then we have to keep a christian in the whitehouse:: a vote for Mike Huckibee is a step in the right direction ..
Remember**** KEEP AMERICA FREE***

The "leftist ideology" regarding helping the downtrodden, improving opportunities (e.g., through education) for the poor and disenfranchised, and universal health care hardly qualify as "contrary to biblical principles". Jesus preached a lot more about loving your fellow man, turning the other cheek, healing the sick, being good shepherds to the earth, and helping the poor than he ever did about preventing gay marriage and abortion, the rights of citizens to own weapons, lowering taxes, and letting people fend for themselves when it comes to health care, poverty, or education. I suspect that Jesus would be as angry about abortion as most conservative Christians, but I don't see where any of the other major planks of the Republican Party would get much support from Him.

To Huckabee's credit, many of the policies he espouses run counter to establishment Republican principles and are more in line with those espoused by Christ. Why do you think that so many establishment Republicans (neo-cons and corporate cons) are unloading on him? OMG, he raised taxes in Arkansas to pay for schools (under a judicial mandate). We can't have any of that — actually paying for things (rather than borrowing to pay for them) makes the Club for Growth angry!

From a human standpoint, historically, Jesus of Nazareth may be the most liberal individual to have lived. Of course liberal positions in our society today want to ignorantly deny that Jesus himself has had more influence over the development of America, the Western World, and each of us individually, than any single person in history. Unfortunately, those who believe in Him really don't quite grasp what it is that they believe in. That has as much to do with socio-economics as it does with anything. This is being said with no reference to spirtuality, divinity, or theology taken into account.

To Lou

look at the MAN, not at his religion..

Then he should keep his religion out of my face. We don't need a president who will talk to GOD and get advice from him. We already have one that does that and look at the mess we are in. Wars and innocent people dying from him and Cheneys LIES!!!!!!!!

The Democrats have a big problem. America is neither ready for a black or a woman president. The rest are not president material.

Dobson is one scary creep. His army of evangelical nutjobs ushered in 'Seven Years of Darkness' by supporting Bush and now he wants people to support his choice again?!? No way! This guy's right up there with Mussolini, Pol Pot, and Manson. He's more interested in spreading his evil propaganda than taking care of America and the people that have been raped during the last seven years.

It is obviously impossible to call yourself a Christian and a Democrat. So much of what Democrats stand for are completely against what God calls His people to be. Gay rights? Abortion? Both are abominations to God.
This is not hatred or judgemental– just logical approach to the obvious.
I will take any Christian Rebublican to lead our country any day, as we can trust that they will be seeking God's guidance in their decisions.
Hillary is all about self righteousness and considers herself God– that would be death to our country to allow ourselves to be led by such an immoral, ungodly woman with absolutely no values.
Praying for God to lead our country to get it right– and get rid of Clinton.

Huckabee's place is in a church, not the White House. We critize Iran, but the U.S. has become nothing less than a christian theocracy, just without the overt repression. And by the way, in the United States there is no "far left", there isn't even a left, tepid moderates are now considered left, this is how far right the "Republican Revolution" has led us.

Dear Open Minded,

Sadly, the Democrats are only accepting and and open minded to their own ideas, and they try to make the Republicans and or conservative Christians out to be the intolerant ones. I guess if they accept immoral things and reject moral things somehow that means they are the tolerant ones in their minds. Christians that follow what the Bible teaches are intolerant of what God says to be intolerant of, but we love the sinner and hate the sin. There is a big difference, that sadly many Christians don't even understand, because they have not been taught well and or don't study the Bible for themselves.

Open Minded,

Just because we pick on you doesn't mean we don't accept you, we accept all the conservatives for the neanderthals they are, with love…

Dobson is a useless piece of a human being. Preaches the gospel and yet hates certain group. he will stand before GOD and sent straight to hell. Along with Huckabee.

Dobson is quite correct in saying most Christians vote Republican. It's just a fact. It doesn't mean they can't be Democrats.. it just means that historically they don't vote that way. No big deal.

However, it is equally true that picking a president just because they are a Christian, is probably not a good idea (the last 8 years prove that).

Being a Christian doesn't necessarily give you great policy insights.

But just as certainly, all the people trashing Christians here – isn't right either. We're supossed to be a nation of freedom.

Reply to Paul Harman:
That's right Paul! As long as you have your "biblical principles" in order, it is ok to let the sick and homeless suffer, and withhold mercy and compassion to the addicted and afflicted. a big raspberry to you, my friend. blth!

Dobson and his group got us Jimmy Carter, and with the benefit of history, we can see what a disaster that was. Let's hope he doesn't saddle us with Huckabee.

I did not comment on the Federal Sales Tax idea because it will not happen. It's impractical and only a variation on it that deviates substantially from his could work, but the idea he supports will not ever happen.

Like I said, he's wrong, but he's not a fake conservative or a mad man who will govern America like a Christian Taliban.

I'm not a Huckabee supporter, and will never be a Huckabee supporter just because I think he's wrong on most of the issues.

BUT, the majority of the posts here are absolutely absurd. Mike Huckabee is not going to turn our nation into a theocracy, he has merely used his faith to appeal to voters just like so many other politicians have done. The difference between him and the others is that he has been more effective. The reason he has been more effective is not because of his support for a theocracy, but because he has the religious background to support his adherence to these beliefs.

Those of you who are claiming that he is a liberal need to get your facts straight. While he does lean liberal on economic issues, he is the most socially conservative candidate in the field. He has a very consistent socially conservative philosophy that lacks hypocricy and is rooted in his christian beliefs. That being said, he can be accused of being too liberal when it comes to economic issues, and that he would expand the size of the federal government.

He's probably going to make a stronger than expected third place (or higher) showing in New Hampshire, and then go on to win Nevada, South Carolina, and Florida. Polls in December had Huckabee showing up strong in those 3 states, so how do you think he'll do in those state after winning Iowa and taking in the influx of money that comes along with that. If that happens, and it is very likely, I highly doubt he'll be an "afterthought," and it may be enough to carry him through Super Tueday and take the nomination.

Shane January 4, 2008 5:22 pm ET

I see a bunch of Anti-Christians posting here, however Jesus loves each and everyone the same. It doesn't matter how many Christian's or Non-Christians vote, God will always have the ultimate say so!
Shane,
You're right, so why are Christians so obsessed with forcing (not merely suggesting and teaching) others to follow every belief that they have? If that's the real belief, let people live their lives on earth as they want and let God sort it out in the end. You can still live your Christian life without forcing your religion on others who don't believe it through governmental programs and mandates.

Sure is a lot of hatred being vented here. I thought Democrats were the party of acceptance and open-mindedness.

those of you who insist upon calling others bible thumpers, idiots, and bible fanatics need to know that Christians may be the source of what is keeping your loved ones safe in the war against terror if they are in Iraq and that your unbelief and ridicule is no different that when Christ himself walked upon the earth. This may be the 21st century but sin is still sin….gay marriage, sex before marriage, murder, and many others are what is causing the nation to suffer. read the bible and see what the book says on t he issues.

It sickens me that Dobson has as much influence as he does in this country. His dangerous mix of psychology, "Christianity", and right-wing ideology have damaged countless people. His hatred for gays and lesbians is well-known. He is a throwback to the 19th century.

Before this, the only thing I had heard from Dobson regarding the election was that he was telling everyone NOT to vote for Rudy Giuliani.

Anyway, can't I be pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and Christian all at the same time?? I certainly do not (heart) Huckabee. He's a theocrat and nothing more.

LEFTIST CHRISTIAN AND PROUD OF IT!

Someone needs to take a stand for religious beliefs because that is one of the principles this country was founded on. The next president needs to lead this nation back to the basic truths and principles this country was founded on. I do not believe that Hillary Clinton is the person to do this, nor Obama. 8 years of one Clinton is enough, and the laughs of other nations when Bill lied about his extramarital affairs. Both have their own agenda's to pass and really don't have a clue about what is best for this country. May we wake and take this election seriously for the sake of future generations. We need a president who will stand up to the countries that believe the U.S. can be trampled upon, pressed down, and destroyed. this is the greatest country to live in and we should appreciate our freedoms and be grateful to those that have fought for it.

Where in the bible or the Consitution does it call the United States Government to feed the poor? No, Christ called his people to feed the poor and take care of the weak. American Boy and John K seem to believe that Christians should not be involved in politics. I would ask them, are you glad for what William Wilberforce did in getting slavery abolished in England? This is what Charles Finney said about the subject:

[T]he time has come that Christians must vote for honest men and take consistent ground in politics or the Lord will curse them. . . . Christians have been exceedingly guilty in this matter. But the time has come when they must act differently. . . . Christians seem to act as if they thought God did not see what they do in politics. But I tell you He does see it and He will bless or curse this nation according to the course they [Christians] take [in politics].

Chris, you can't be on the far left and be a true Christian because leftist ideology is contrary to biblical principles

There's NO WAY you can be a member of the FAR LEFT and be Christian. FAR LEFT stands for gay marriage and abortion. The Bible has very clear stances on those issues and those stances do not align themselves with people on the FAR LEFT. Sorry, thats just the way it is. Too bad if that hurts your feelings.

How ae the Christians not a vaild group of voters? The majority of the country is Christian and if they vote for Mike Huckabee, accept it.

Dobson is actually quite embarassed as he declined to endorse Huckabee early on, thinking he was a lost cause. Now he has to ingratiate himself back in to the fray, because he is an egomaniac. Dobson is to America as al-Sadr is to Iraq.

If Iowa is 60% evangelical, please remind me not to go there.

The REAL tough question is not whether a christian coould be a Democrat (heck Jesus was a liberal, you know peace on earth and turn the other cheek stuff), but the question is……………

….CAN A CONSERVATIVE BE A BUDDHIST?

Reply to Mike in Iowa:

Being on the womens side, when she makes her own health deciosions and gay marriage are actually good things in the 21st century. Your thinking of a 14th century, now c'mon, I'll hold your hand and help walk you to the 21st century. Don't be afraid, Its so much more beautifull here, must be that the gays have decorated it.

Talk about IDIOTS. You people who are ranting about a Christian man who won the Caucus had better wake up and smell the roses. The single thing America needs more than anything in leadership, is someone who tells the truth and knows his stuff. While Huckabee just happens to have been a pastor at one point in his life, he has been in politics a LOT longer, and is STILL CLEAN. That comes from his religious roots and his belief system. Why is that so hard to understand or accept? Would you prefer some woman who's running just to prove women can do it? Would you prefer a sophomore black guy running just because of his color? The truth is, Biden is the most well rounded and experienced and honest Democrat, but no one notices him.

If you look back at the "character" of Bill or for that matter Hillary, or any of a lot of other politicians, you would be hard pressed to find anyone to hold a candle to Huckabee. My advice, if you have any brains at all, and that appears doubtful based on your blogs, is to look at the MAN, not at his religion. For that matter, at least he has one he believes in and actually LIVES. We can do a LOT worse than Huckabee, and probably will considering the level of mentality exhibited here. Sad day in America when a good man is castigated because he is GOOD and stands for something. You people are NUTS.

Hehe, I got shoved by that guy's security guard one time…but anyway…

While I think it's fair to say that the Christian right is a significant social and political force, I can't say that their influence was underplayed at all thus far in the election– it's just classic Right-wing schtick. The media is only as liberal as the Rich Conservative Aryans that own it.

I think he and his kind would do better to focus their righteous indignation on the Da Vinci Code and the Golden Compass…

Huckabee has a 0 percent chance of becoming the next President.

Saying you are an evangelical is like saying you support warm sunshine and puppy dogs. Who doesn't support those things? But better beware the dark hand of coercion that Dobson represents.

Thank you tom for pointing that out

new hampshire should turn out quite different for huckabee

I agree with Chris! There are just as many Christians–who vote–on the Democratic side of the aisle. Just because someone is a Christian–or even an "evangelical Christian" does not mean they vote conservatively or Republican. That theory is a big load of rhetoric that's been hoisted on anyone the far right thinks will be gullible enough to believe it. Hillary and John E. and Barack (I believe) are Christians, too–thought that is not a requirement to be president– and although they are not Baptist ministers, they are just as supported by independent-thinking, voting, Christians as Mike Huckabee.

I agree with American Boy. Render unto ceasar that which belongs to ceasar. Let the priests stay in the churches and practice what they preach.

Unless I've been educated by another God ………. Jesus would definitely be turning the tables over on top of these "war-mongering"
"compassion -less" "kooks" ….. If we learned anything from Dubya …… It's that the evangelicals don't have all "divine knowledge" unto themselves!

Christian voters do remain a "powerful force". Deal with it.

What bothers me is that people think if you are religious you must be conservative .

What only Republicans go to church?

I go to church worship My Lord and I am a Democrat.

I see a bunch of Anti-Christians posting here, however Jesus loves each and everyone the same. It doesn't matter how many Christian's or Non-Christians vote, God will always have the ultimate say so!

Huckawho? Dobson remains an idiot – I can see why CNN loves to quote him to try and give all of us conservatives a black eye with his bigotted and lame remarks. Who annointed him as king?

Please go away!

Reply to Chris:

"you can't be on the far left and be Christian?"

If by far left, you're on the side of abortionists and gay marriage proponents, then the answer to your question is a resounding NO!

What Democrats have is several excellent choices; two have dropped out but several are left. No matter what our individual preferences might be, America wins with any of these three: Clinton, Edwards or Obama (listed alphabetically, of course). Republicans, however, seem to often choose among those that are extreme or suggest that they are so as to win over extremes. I look forward to January 26th.

I agree that his remarks are a bit foolish. In any case, I am a Christian and wish that Christians would focus more on what Christ was worried about. Why arent we more focused on feeding the poor and being a light. Im not saying dont vote, I just think we put to much stock into it.

Why don't the bible thumpers figure out how to change the economy. The Huckster does not even have a clue and the answer is not in the bible, so now what will he do????

What did James Dobson say "shocked the far left"?

Hey James, the Democratic voters in Iowa outnumbered the Republican voters by over 2:1,

in IOWA,

the REDESTof the RED states, a wave of the things to come, thank God at last,

Somebody please wake James Dobson up from his religious coma.

James Dobson does appear to have some validity to his claims that should not be ignored. Only the extreme left in our Democratic party would like to ignore this..and will be to our folly..

Can't be a real Christian and support the left's policies (i.e. abortion, sexual perversion, etc.) Wake up!

Aren't we in the Middle East to spread democracy and stop religious extremism? If so, why are we trying to implement a theocracy here?

Oh I forgot, evanangelical Christianity is the "correct" religion, that's why it's OK (rolls eyes).

It is very good news for Democrats, that the GOP made a fatal error in encouraging the nutso religious right over the last 8 years. These people are about "faiith" they are about "belief" , they are not about facts and proof or reality. The GOP can't function with that albatross.

If anyone has seen any of my posts, I am obviously not a Huckabee supporter. I have seen a lot of pro-Huckabee posts that tell all to find out the truth at mikehuckabee.com. This made me laugh since no candidate is going to point out there own faults. I have gone to the site to see what Huckabee says about the negative things said about him. Obviously it is the exact opposite of what other people are saying about him. So hey, why not do my own research. Good idea, right? Well not so good if you are a Huckabee supporter. One of my main concerns about Huckabee is his battle with the Ethics board. His site, under the link "Truth Squad: Ethics" says, "The overwhelming majority of ethics complaints filed against Governor Huckabee in the state of Arkansas were regularly dismissed and / or proven to be frivolous." I checked to see if this was true. A majority of them have been thrown out, but not ALL. I find it disturbing that the EVANGELICAL RIGHT voted for a man who had, by his own admission, ethics issues. He never said all of them were thrown out. I wanted to know what wasn't thrown out. I wanted to know in what areas he had ethics issues. I would suggest that all others do the same. He also tried to get a statute of limitations on ethics issues? Why would he do this. If he had so many issues with ethics why is anyone voting for him? That is a legitimate question. I would like an answer. I assume the answer will be that he will get rid of the IRS. I have done my research there too. It won't happen. It isn't possible. Even if the Fair Tax was possible, which i doubt it is, the IRS must still exist to collect that tax. SO why, why is the RIGHT voting for a man that doesn't have a fiscal conservative record? Why is the right voting for a man that has ethics issues? Can some one answer this?

It is well past time for Dr. Dobson to just shut up and go away. The gang of criminals he and his so-called Christian values put into office has done enough damage already.

If you take away these bible thumpers, Huckabee finishes fourth.

All others that stated that religion is not the sole barometer for choosing a candidate, 3 to 1 voted for Romney.

Huckabee will be an afterthought real soon.

We will see what happens to the Hukster once we leave the bible belt.

Thank God not everyone is so hot about turning this nation into a religious theocracy.

what an idiot!

you can't be on the far left and be Christian?
what kind of bigotry is this?

christ should spit in your face you moron!