January 7, 2008
Posted: 08:42 AM ET
Kucinich is encouraging his supporters to make their second choice Obama.

McGovern is calling for Bush and Cheney to be impeached.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – George McGovern, the Democratic Party's 1972 nominee for president, is calling on Congress to impeach President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

And in an editorial in Sunday's Washington Post, McGovern writes the case for impeaching the current president is "far stronger" than the case made against former President Richard Nixon — the man who soundly defeated McGovern in the general election match up.

"Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses," McGovern writes. "They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time.

"Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world," he continued.

McGovern, a former three-term senator who ran for president on a fiercely anti-war platform, also called the administration's policy in Iraq a "a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war" in violation of international law.

"This reckless disregard for life and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949," he added.

But McGovern acknowledged there is little bipartisan support for an impeachment effort, blaming "superficial partisanship" among Republicans, and a "a lack of courage and statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians."

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Dick Cheney • George McGovern • President Bush


Jeremiah   January 14th, 2008 6:12 am ET

Impeachment is necessary to refute the Administration's "Unitary Executive" theories before that dictatorial philosophy is allowed to be adopted by a future Administration. But, the national Democratic leadership apparently wants that power for themselfves and grassroots Republicans are too f&$#ing stupid to understand that. If a Democrat had committed the same litany of abuses against the Constitution that Cheney and Bush have, they'd be screaming for impeachment. But, they're too blinded by their irrational partisan loyalties to stand up for the Constitution. It's disgusting.

mark wilkes barre pa   January 9th, 2008 6:18 am ET

Stations,,, If you read my earlier post you would Know I realize its more than just anti war,,, I use my real name and where I am from as I welcome folks to show me where I am wrong. My anti war comment stands alone on this issue. thats why I did not include it in my original post. In your anonymous haste to degrade people you dont agree with you must of missed that,,, Have a nice day !

mark wilkes barre pa   January 9th, 2008 5:50 am ET

Hey stations,,,, original comeback,,, In the words of hillary clinton,,,, YOU HURT MY FEELINGS,,, did I hit a nerve with you ? the truth hurt ? moron is the only response you have ? no info as to why I'm wrong ? and why do you use real name and where your from so I can comeback with a stupid one liner ?

Kevin   January 8th, 2008 8:31 pm ET

It's about time that CNN started reporting on this issue. More and more prominent and level headed people are calling for impeachment hearings on both Bush and Cheney. The voices have been growing louder and louder every day yet CNN and the other main stream media organizations have continued to try and bury this story.

Everyone seems to have their excuses for why there shouldn't be impeachment hearings or how it is futile to even attempt it. However, what it comes down to is protecting our Constitution and the rule of law in our country. The President and Vice-President have broken the law. And they continue to do so every day. It is the sworn responsibility of Congress to hold them accountable and show the citizens (and the world) that the United States is still a republic that is ruled by law and not a monarcy (or a dictatorship) that is ruled by G W Bush.

Stations   January 8th, 2008 10:52 am ET

Its more than JUST ANTI WAR ,MARK THE MORON FROM WILKES BARRE,CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR COAL SHAFT.

Rock   January 8th, 2008 9:19 am ET

Well, this makes me realize again that I can't lean on politicians.

mark wilkes barre pa   January 8th, 2008 6:02 am ET

ANTI WAR ADVOCATES,,,,,,,,Its all in the name folks,,,, George McGovern is one as many of the comentors above,,, there is NO JUST reason to go to war to these people, there is NOTHING that can happen that will justify war to these people,,,Your wasting your time even trying to debate this issue with them if your not anti war,,,,What is sad is,, these are the same people who harbour hate to george Bush and any republican who supports him , wish them ILL-WILL and there families,and HOPE somthing or some one comes along to take there lives,,,

Terry   January 8th, 2008 5:57 am ET

Actually, it being too late for impeachment, they should be frog-marched out of the oval office in handcuffs and into the international court at the Hague to be tried as war criminals, a fate they richly deserve.
I wrote (by snail mail) to all my current (and former) representatives and senators on impeachment and only got a response from Henry Waxman . . . so apparently it's not even worthy of response from one's elected representatives.

Jose Card - Independent   January 8th, 2008 1:48 am ET

If you claim oil was the reason for Iraq, please turn off your computer and power in your house. Stop driving your car as you are contributing to the cause of the blame.
It is our government's job to secure energy resources for its people so you can't blame G.W. Bush for doing his job. His methods can be debated and made impeachable if you wish. However, if he is impeachable, it would have been done long ago. There are lots of loud people who want to take him down if they can. There are also the quiet people who will speak with their votes. Vote your conscience!

tomerodrique   January 7th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

It is, it seems, a little late in the day for Mr.
McGovern to be calling for impeachment of
Bush and Cheney. And, he is being a little political
in attributing the failure of the democrats to act on
impeaching these two criminals by attributing their
failure to "a lack of courage and statesmanship…."
Only a former politician would be so kind; the
Democrats have SOLD OUT! End of story!

Ruth Greene   January 7th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Whether you agree completely with ex-senator McGovern, we can all agree on one issue. The leadership of the United States needs moral fiber.

Evan   January 7th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Stop looking backwards or you will hit a brick wall.

Start Looking FORWARD with Obama and move into the future.

Look at all the attacks and lies spewing from the Clinton Campaign attacking Obama.

IT IS TIME FOR A COMPLETE CHAGE!

NO TO BUSHES
NO TO CLINTONS

YES TO ANYONE ELSE!

h20joe   January 7th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

A belated comment re: why won't congress impeach Bush/Cheney. These two and their cronies represent a "political moffia" in the US!!!!!! They have used any tactic available to achieve their objectives and to make themselves and their buddies richer! They are a disgrace and yet they wield such power that the woosie Democrates are afraid of them. It's a DISGRACE. The governing body of our great nation are a bunch of CHICKEN S—-. I hated Nixion and what he stood for but I would take Tricky Dickie back in a minute when I look at what this country has become. I LOVE my country and I cry everyday when I look at what we have become thanks to BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can only say, I'm glad I'm old and won't have to live with the consequences of what the last eight years has wrought for too much longer. I feel our only hope is Hillary—–she's a smart, real person who has her feet firmly planted in reality.
Thank you,
Gwyneht B. Pappert
Hudson, Florida

Bob   January 7th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

I bet that Mr. McGovern remembers 2002, when the PATRIOT Act was being passed and the executive branch was threatening Iraq with war over WMDs that were clearly not even proven to exist. I bet he was asking the same kinds of questions as me: "How is this happening? How on earth does 9/11 justify this kind of knee-jerk response, throwing our civil liberties out the window and threatening an apparently peaceful country with war?"

But guess what? The Congress totally went along with it. They either didn't ask those questions, or gave the wrong answers.

So who has clean hands to impeach the president? Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (who as it has already been mentioned, would like to impeach Cheney), and probably some others, but probably not enough to make it anything other than the ridiculous partisan farce that the Clinton impeachment was.

Dennis French   January 7th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

I agree. President Bush and his administration should be impeached The American people owe this to the world. He is an embarrassment to our country and Cheney has been working to steel the tax payers money.

Dan, MN   January 7th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

This whole problem, alright at least half this problem wouldn't have posibly happened had we decided to recount the votes whenever voter counting disaster took place in florida. Instead Gov. Bush helped his bro out and got him in (it woulden't have hurt had kerry stood his ground) but you get my drift. The war might not have been over by now had Kerry won, but we might have been a step closer to the right direction.

tntalk   January 7th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Interesting comment by McGovern and nice to hear somebody with some experience have an opinion about the highly questionable conduct of the republic's dynamic duo, even if he is a democrat. We have seen a president without real moral issues for quite some time. It would be refreshing to a new president with some moral fiber!

Gil - California   January 7th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

The Bush presidency is the direct fault of the Democratic party. There is no way either election should have been so close as to allow a few votes to even matter.
Al Gore lost because he was too close to Bill Clinton, and he didn't know how to behave in public (something he has worked on and I believe learned from) Kerry lost because from a field of better candidates, the Democratic leadership allowed him to buy his way into the nomination.

Both elections were a case of who do I dislike least and compared to Gore and Kerry, the voters were split down the middle allowing the "creative" votes to matter.

W won two elections where it was the Presidency was the Democrats to lose, and they did so in a fine manner. You want to see the Republican's keep control of the White House? Pick Hillary as the Democrat's nominee and you will guarantee it.

Mark, B'ham., Al.   January 7th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

This is all about the War in Iraq, Afganistan, and Terror from "Wimp" who could not fight his way through wet toilet paper. What Bush and Cheney are guilty of is not fighting to "WIN" which is better than McGovern who with the help of the Media and US Government and the American People, not the US Military, lose the war in Viet Nam. The dems know they are still the Post Viet Nam Democratic Party and they are afraid to let the AMerican People know they still are weak on securtiy and defense and believe terrorism is for law enforcement to fight since it is not a war.

Terry, El Paso, TX   January 7th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

To Renee,
Thanks for your service. I believe that you deserve the same level of benefits that WWII vets got: housing loans, education grants, superb health care, rehabilitiation if needed, and disability compensation if rehab isn't possible. And first class all the way. You and I might disagree on whether you should be in Iraq, but we can certainly agree that you deserve the best when you get back home.

Terry, El Paso, TX   January 7th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Renee says, "All of you call yourself Americans!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!! Have you forgotten what happend September 11th, 2001! "

We well remember what happened on September 11. Osams bin Laden arranged for some Saudi Arabians to drive airplanes into three buildings, killing 3500 Americans. We invaded Afghanistan and replaced the Taliban with an elected government which we hope will survive, despite the growing strength of the Taliban. Osama bin Ladin, though, is having a nice dinner right now and making a new videotape ridiculing us.

Then, we attacked Iraq for reasons that had nothing to do with 9-11. It was because we wrongly believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Our government was either lying to us about WMDs or was just stupid – take your pick. I choose stupid myself, since the former head of the CIA now says in his book that the "slam dunk" comment was the worst mistake of his life.

The war in Iraq has cost another 3500 lives and no WMDs have been found.

During the War on Terror, terrorists and Iraqi insurgents have killed about 7,000 Americans. During that time aspirin has killed 5 times as many Americans and tobacco killed 50 times as many.

Confronting fundamentalists who would set up theocratic totalitiarian nations is important, but it is not the only problem in the world.

Hneale   January 7th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

Is Pelosi a Republican or a Democrate or she is nothing at all. She has to listen to the American public who elected her.

RealityKing   January 7th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

7 years of economic expansion, longest in US history.
Tax cuts for all taxpayers, total taxes paid by the top 1% UP, highest ever.
Two new democratic country's and 63 million newly freed people.
No Child Left Behind
911 stewardship, followed by the highest ranking by any President.
National debt down to less than 1% of budget, ahead of schedule, and in the face of a spend/spend liberal congress.

Can you hear that lame duck quaking??

Jack K.   January 7th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

He's right of course.

Man this guy can really draw a crowd on the internet!!!

I'll be so happy when Bush and Cheney are just factoids in the history books.

And defacto examples of how NOT to lead a nation!!!

Larskie   January 7th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Typical left wing cry baby. Make accusations and compaints AFTER the fact and not offer any incite to who he would like to see from his own party win the Presidency and what route to "make things better" for the Dems other than impeach a lame duck Pres. Maybe he has no clue, like the rest of them, of what to do other than accuse and name call.

Sari, Mpls MN   January 7th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Mark Ruffalo- Bob in Frankfort??? Really?

Do you really think that the end-all decision to impeach Bush is legit because Mark Ruffalo supports it?

Isn't his wife named Sunshine??? Wasn't he in the movie, "13 Going On 30?"

I rest my case.

Jim   January 7th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

What a great world it will be when the Democrats have the white house..I am really confused about what light bulbs I need to buy and what insurance I should carry. Can't wait till the Dems are are here to guide me

Dr Agon Fly   January 7th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Like all hate based diatribes, this one vibrates with vitriol and forgoes fact. There is a reason bi-partisan support is lacking and it has nothing to do with politics or courage. There is no fondation in fact for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice-president Chaney.
On the other hand, there is strong evidence that Senate Leader Reid and House Speaker Pelosi are completley incompetent and deserve to be ousted from their seats in congress.

Michael, Fort Myers   January 7th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

The Administration has disgraced the USA. Let's disgrace them back. Impeach them both, now.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 7th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

National debt INCREASED 50%; Possibly the SEVEN largest deficits in U.S. history; Possibly?? — possibly because he isn't finished yet. Historically, wars meant increased taxes and financial sacrifices while they are going on. (Talk to ANYONE who lived through World War II). Bush has given tax breaks instead and pushed this debt onto generations to come.
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"Mission Accomplished" over 1,700 DAYS ago! We did topple Saddam's gov't.– so why do we have 190,000 troops and thousands of paid guards still there?

Is reading "The Pet Goat" while Americans are dying in our cities ANYONE's idea of leadership?. Films show he was told about the second attack, but never asked ONE question or made any effort to contact the Pentagon or anyone else. As Karl Rove told ABC, Bush did this so that he wouldn't "disturb the children". Forget about the other 290 million Americans who were terrified and hoped for some message from "the commander guy".

4 days of misery on a bridge in a major U.S. city and the most powerful man in American can't take the time to make ONE CALL to the Pentagon to get help. While millions of Americans watched in horror day after day, almost any caring human being in the same all-powerful spot would have made one call to the Army, Navy, Marines, Coast Guard, or even Air Force and said "I WANT A HELICOPTER ON THAT BRIDGE NOW!!!". Don't pretend this so-called "compassionate conservative" commander-in-chief didn't have the power to do it.. He just didn't CARE enough, Americans looked so pathetic and helpless for so long that it gave Fidel Castro, of all people, a chance to offer aid.

"Rumfeld will stay"; Your point– Bush LIED all the way to the end.

"We've never been 'stay the course"; Again, your point?– another blatant LIE.

Intelligence community blamed for Iraq and Tenet given our highest possible civilian award; Do you even know why he got the award? — George Tenet told Bush "slam dunk" and Bush did not fire, demote, or reprimand him, instead he gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Zero minutes in prison for Libby CONVICTED of twice as many crimes as Clinton impeached for. Speaking of Clinton, how many people did he pardon on his way out?? — Clinton pardoned several well-known people. The major difference is that they had COMPLETED THEIR JAIL TIME before being pardoned. The major exception was Mark Rich. Rich's defense lawyer personally went to Hillary Clinton and asked that she convince her husband to pardon Rich. Who was the lawyer that helped get him off? None other than Bush's buddy Scooter Libby.

“Hell of a job, Brownie”. So — just another example that Bush didn't know what he was talking about.

Not ONE thing in the original statement that wasn't a FACT. So facts are "moronic"?

"I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about (bin Laden)" — George W. ("I'm a uniter") Bush

Angel, Los Angeles of Anaheim   January 7th, 2008 3:33 pm ET

Bien,

How much of American history do you know? You belong with Rucker from WV. Neither one of you are apparently capable of calculating facts and coming to a logical conclusion.
Without W., we never would have had a 9/11 attack. They would not have dared attack a country run by Al Gore, and thousands of young Americans would still be around today to counteract votes from excuses from citizens like you 2.

dan   January 7th, 2008 3:29 pm ET

I agree with J. Rucker, WV ,and McGovern needs to find something better to do with his time.

Matt - Las Vegas   January 7th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

All these people who drink their 5 dollar starbuck coffees, surf the news all day long an their companies dime and all they can write about is the terrible plight of our country. Spend some time in the high country of Jordan, or the valleys of Egypt. Then you will thank God for all you have. Get a life.

Matt

Bien   January 7th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

IMPEACH?

Do the nursing home bound by the name of Mr. McGovern know the word impeach?

I am greatful to this "idiot" president who wage a war on terrorism for this fanatical out of their mind blind follower of jihad. I till you my friend without this "idiot" president America will experienced another attack and setback this "idiot" president will emerge as one of the greatest president of all time mark my word.

makina ayala   January 7th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Not only do they need to be impeached, but also tried for war crimes!

Anonymous   January 7th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Not only do they need to be impeached, but also tried for war crimes.

J. Rucker, WV   January 7th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

How ridiculous! If President Bush was a democrat there would be no talk of impeachment. He has not lied, nor have they done anything worth impeaching anyone over. Look back at Clinton, the bulbous-nosed, car-salesman of a president who filthied the office by cheating on his wife, betrayed the country by handing over secrets to the chinese while that one asian guy took the fall, geee….. wake up America!
Stop calling good evil and evil good….

Brent   January 7th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

It has been time to impeach these two criminals for a long time. I just hope Congress has the guts to stand up for the rule of law and impeach these two.

Angel, Los Angeles of Anaheim   January 7th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Unfortunately, W and his Dick are too powerful to allow impeachment to happen, even though they are undoubtedly guilty of treasonous activitivities against the United States and deserve the proper punishments for their activities.
Thankfully, we have constitutional protections to prevent them from continuing their evil regime.

Obama/Edwards 08 for Change.

Brendan H., San Antonio, TX   January 7th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

McGovern was the hand-picked candidate Nixon wanted to run against.

Muskie was comfortably ahead in all the polls and by precisely the same margins in all.

Enter clever Kenny Claussen, Deputy Communications Director at the White House, who, with Muskie stationery in hand, penned the Canuck Letter, which not only drove Muskie out of the presidential race but clean out of politics!

Nixon got the opponent he wanted.

Sam   January 7th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Agreed 100% with McGovern. Probably too late to do much now, Unfortunately.

ANGEL IN PHOENIX   January 7th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, NOW IN MY 50′S, I AM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY CORPORAE WEASELS, WITH THEIR OWN AGENDA. WHOEVER GETS INTO THE WHITE HOUSE THIS TIME, WILL EITHER PLAY BALL, OR GET BOUGHT OUT BY THESE SAME WEASELS. WE NEED A SERIOUS UNITED EFFORT ON THE PART OF ALL AMERICANS, BY MEANS OF A WORK STOPPAGE, TO COLLAPSE THIS ECONOMY, AND RESTART OUR COUNTRY. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST ARE AFRAID OF LOSING WHAT SCRAPS THEY HAVE, UNKNOWINGLY LOSING THE REST OF IT TO THE WEASELS, LITTLE BY LITTLE.

Bob in Frankfort   January 7th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

I stand corrected, the correct link is http://www.worldcantwait.org

Bob in Frankfort   January 7th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

The well-spoken and talented actor, Mark Ruffalo, agrees with Senator McGovern wholeheartedly and asks people to consult http://www.worldcantwait.com on this youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9gLy8IReaU

Justin, Lawrence, KS   January 7th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

For those attacking the character or service of Senator George McGovern and asking what he has done for America –
Honored Service as a bomber pilot pilot in WWII with over 20 missions over Nazi occupied Germany.
Honored service as a Senator for three terms from South Dakota.
Service to the world's underprivileged and hungry with prolonged service to the World Food Program.
These are just a few of the many accomplishments and services of the esteemed Senator. As a person who has heard him speak on a few occasions and had to opportunity to meet him, he is one of the most intelligent people I have ever met and has vision and an acute sharpness for a man of his years. I am honored to have met him and any that attack him with baseless nonsense really do not know who he is. Thank you Senator McGovern for your selfless service and continued voice for Americans.

Ted, Riverhead, NY   January 7th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

National debt INCREASED 50%; Yes, it's never increased before during a time of war, or any other time for that matter.
Possibly the SEVEN largest deficits in U.S. history; Possibly?? Nice fact. See above also.
"Mission Accomplished" over 1,700 DAYS ago! We did topple Saddam's gov't.
"The Pet Goat" while hundreds died in American cities; Yes, he should have been reading Playboy instead…….. that would have prevented a catastrophe already underway that could not be stopped.
4 days of misery on a bridge in a major U.S. city and the most powerful man in American can't take the time to make ONE CALL to the Pentagon to get help; State's job- what would the Pentagon have done here.
"Rumfeld will stay"; Your point?
"We've never been 'stay the course"; Again, your point?
Intelligence community blamed for Iraq and Tenet given our highest possible civilian award; Do you even know why he got the award? Our intelligence was not the only country that reached the same conclusions
Zero minutes in prison for Libby CONVICTED of twice as many crimes as Clinton impeached for. Speaking of Clinton, how many people did he pardon on his way out?? Many pundits agree that Libby did not deserve jail time.
“Hell of a job, Brownie”. So…………
“Childrens do learn”. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". At least this is not a lie.

AJ   January 7th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

I'm starting to wonder if there might be a country out there somewhere who would be willing to invade the U.S. in an effort to protect it's citizens from it's leaders and government???

NewPatriot-Arizona   January 7th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

The late President Ronald Reagan once said,

" Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We must fight for and protect our freedoms or we will be telling our children and grandchildren what it was like to truly be a free United States citizen."

Americans today are facing the greatest challenge that our forefathers dreaded 230 years ago. It is time to face the challenge again and voice our opinions before its too late.

Wufpakmom, Illinois   January 7th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

For those of you bemoaning the fact that it's too late to do anything about impeachment –

On October 8, 1998, Henry Hyde introduced a resolution to the Judiciary Committee to authorize an investigation as to whether or not there were sufficient grounds to impeach the president.

The trial started on January 7, 1999.

The trial ended on February 12, 1999.

Take heart! We may still have time to salvage what is left of "Our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor"

But we'd better get busy.

Gabrielle   January 7th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Ya know the majority of us would LOVE to see Bush and Cheney impeached….me more than anything..I knew that we would regret the day we re-elected Bush…..the thing is though….all we are going to be doing is just wishing and praying that it happens….cause we all know it NEVER will….this is his last year people..THANK THE LORD!!!! so, we might as well just go on with what it is we are doing in our lives and just keep dreming it…cause that is all it will be is a dream. Hey we made it this far with the both of them in office…what is 11 more months…ya know..then we can be rid of those dumbos forever…and PRAY to GOD that the new president can even HOPE to fix the mess that these 2 doofeses have created!!!

Ken, Suitland MD   January 7th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Hey Ted from Riverhead. Glad you paused long enough in your backwoods toiling to come out to the road and give us all the benfit of your political insight. Your recent comments in this thread have been most enlightening, and they certainly move the political debate forward….NOT!! You should indeed be rightfully proud that you helped re-elect this disaster-in-charge and his vice-disaster. Numbskulls voting for numbskulls.

Now return to the woods, and your mash and still. You heard me! Git!!!!

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

To all people, especially J. regarding his comments regarding Guantanemo Bay that the prisoners are not American's; Do you realize that all of the countries of the world wer here before Ameica, with the exception of Austrailia, and who cares if another human being is American or not? With our diplomacy and respect we gained we can also lose it. Too many Americans think they are superior because they are American. Well I am an American and I belong to the planet Earth where all people are equal are equal, and all should be respected. The fact that America respects and has stood for this is what made them great, and if they stop respecting thhis it can make them fall! America is no the first country of the world, or empowered with being hte world's superpower for the rest of the world. Everything caqn change! Th emore arrogant Americans become, and the less caring about other countries, the more they will fall and be destroyed!

Jim   January 7th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

In response to: PHIL CYPRESS, TX,

By the level of intelligence, poor grammar and just nonsense you tried to write, I am led to believe that YOU are George Bush !!! Although it may seem you could be an iota smarter that Bush but you may have had help writing as he does.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 7th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

"Richard in West Palm Beach Florida: An instrument has not yet been invented that can measure my indifference to your moronic ramblings………. or your intelligence."
—————————————————-
Please supply ANY information to dispute ONE FACT that I have offered.

jim Scottsdale AZ   January 7th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

President Bush and Mr, Dick should be in jail for fraud and crimes they committed . The soldiers that have died the families should have legal action agianst them.

God bless the troops they are the only ones with courage and honor.

The resons we went to Iraq were false and made up, The President is liable for those actions. "the buck stops with him" he should be personally liable.

The President and Dick the VP have done so much damage to this Country it will take 40 years to change.

He never did find Osma on his watch, so he failed the troops us and the people that died in 911.

he really believes that the U.S. is an Empire not a Country.

I don't know how you can sleep at night knowing you killed thousands of our troops and injured thousands more, not even counting the 100,000s of iraqes that have been killed or injured.

We need change, but not the same people. I diagree with some things Ron Paul says, but his Foreign Policy is right on

James Bolin   January 7th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Congress voted for a war based on the fabrications the bush adminstration fed them and the american public. The president asked for the war to be approved based on false facts. It is his responsibility to ensure that those weapons of mass destruction were not only real but also iImminently ready to be depoloyed agaisnt the american people or our allies. This was not the case. Anyone who voted for the war based on the information we recieved from the president should not be held accountable.
The war on terrorism is the same as the war on drugs and our military resonse should be limited to the same. We do not hold people indefinatly because we think they might be selling a dime bag down the street.
In my opionion we have ultimatly lost to the terrorist based on the freedoms we have lost here at home. Even if we were to kill every single terrorist tomorrow we will still have lost based on this unfounded war and our lost freedom.

Linda   January 7th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

A whole generation of young people are growing up thinking this is the way the American government is supposed to be. Yes, we need to impeach Bush and Cheney if for no other reason than to illustrate what this country's morals really are.

Jaga   January 7th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

What do you expect an alchoholic to do when you appoint him as president? Bush & Cheney have wrecked this country on everey facets of issues. Too sad! Americans need to wake and take action. These special interests gangs need to be held accountable for their crimes.

Ted, Riverhead, NY   January 7th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Richard in West Palm Beach Florida: An instrument has not yet been invented that can measure my indifference to your moronic ramblings………. or your intelligence.

Rick   January 7th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

raquel, out of the gene pool

blray   January 7th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

I concur with Mcgovern's comments on Bush and Chaney. These two idiots are an embarrassment to this country and an insult to the intelligence of every citizen of this country. Bush should have been impeached the day he lied to this country the reason he was invading Iraq. History will prove me right along with thousands of Democrats and disenchanged Republicans in this country.

Bob IL   January 7th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

I think everyone should have an opinion, that's what makes this country still great.
McGovern gives credibility and I aplaud his tenacity. Everyone should stop and read the constitution. Party has nothing to do with it, it is the responsibility of every delegate to do their job and impeach Bush & Cheney, or at least get the ball rolling on it.
Bob IL

David, Dallas Tx   January 7th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

First, impeach 'em. Then, send 'em up for war crimes.

Gunnar   January 7th, 2008 1:51 pm ET

Which country owns most weapons of mass destruction?
Which country have used the atomic bomb against an enemy?

Peace would be a good idea

To this debate:
Most of those opposing George McGowerns seems like all they can argument is his age! That is pathetic!

Before USA invaded Iraque 50 000 demonstrated against the invasion in Oslo. Oslo is a city of under 500 000. This large amount amount of people in the street have not been seen in Oslo since before the WW2.

For misleading the american people, for making the world more unsafe: please put the respnsible to trial.

Norwegian citizen

raquel   January 7th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

I think that McGovern is doing a good thing by Impeaching him because Bush has been in office to long. The longer he has been in there united states have never been so bad as it is now. also i agree with most of the people on here because he just makeing money for others and not for the state. Another thing i think the war has been going on to long and soldier dieing for nothing.

AC   January 7th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

Hey, McGovern won his home state in 1972 & lost the other 49. If Gore could have at least achieved that in 2000, this topic would be moot.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 7th, 2008 1:32 pm ET

"God bless America, and our wise and noble leader President Bush!!!"
————————————————————————
National debt INCREASED 50%;
Possibly the SEVEN largest deficits in U.S. history;
"Mission Accomplished" over 1,700 DAYS ago!
"The Pet Goat" while hundreds died in American cities;
4 days of misery on a bridge in a major U.S. city and the most powerful man in American can't take the time to make ONE CALL to the Pentagon to get help;
"Rumfeld will stay";
"We've never been 'stay the course";
Intelligence community blamed for Iraq and Tenet given our highest possible civilian award;
Zero minutes in prison for Libby CONVICTED of twice as many crimes as Clinton impeached for.
“Hell of a job, Brownie”.
“Childrens do learn”.

Jason NYC   January 7th, 2008 1:32 pm ET

Argus said: "Notice that those who disagree with Sen. McGovern never make any effort to praise Bush or defend his policies. Instead, they fall back to the tried and true Republican slime machine tactic that refuses to address the issue, but attacks the messenger."

Absolutely right. In addition they all use the same rhetoric they learned from the sheep herders they get all of their information from. For a good example of blind, mindless regurgitation, see John's comment below:

"These enemies have clearly demonstrated by their actions and words they hate ideal of freedom on which our country stands. Remember these enemies willing spilled the blood of innocent Americans on and before 911……and most likely will again!"

Rick   January 7th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

Ted, I loved your comment on global warming catastrophe. What global warming? It's another political rhetoric that has blown up into a monster. Do some searching on the net. The only proof that warming is occurring unnaturally is a few computer models. I could create a model that would show a sneeze causing the earth and mars to swap places! The earth throughout time has changed climates, of which there is great scientific proof. We are arrogant to believe that our little selves could create such a catastrophe in such a short time. The earth will heal itself a long ways. I'm not saying ignore what we do, we should leave as little a footprint as possible, but politicians have blown all of this out of the water. I think the White House knows this, but only plays the politics game to appease the masses. Sickening.

Cody   January 7th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

Only ONE Presidential candidate supports impeachment: Dennis Kucinich.

None of the others have the guts to even mention it. NONE. Only Kucinich.

Marcia   January 7th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

McGovern is still a loser. He is a bitter old man that can not get over the fact that America didn't want him.

Peggy   January 7th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

There is something else to consider.

Although Bush and Cheney have committed criminal and treasonable acts bad enough to be sent to Leavenworth for the next 20 years, there may not be time enough to impeach them and remove them from office before they do more damage. However — and this is a very big point — history will remember Bush as THE WORST PRESIDENT ever to sit in the Oval Office.

One thing about history — people are remembered either far worse or far better than they were. Given the crimes committed by this administration, the attacks on the Constitution, the destruction of the Bill of Rights, the lies told to the American people — I have no doubt that history will remember Bush as the worst and I also have no doubt that history will not be kind to him.

200 years from now, when students are sitting in their classrooms learning about the early 21st century, about the major events that defined us as a nation, what will they learn? That Bush and company took what had up until then been our unalienable rights and ripped them to shreds? That they opened the door for the destruction of our Constitution republic to be replaced by a Patriot Act dictatorship? That every ideal that gave Americans their identity and standing and even national pride was destroyed bit by bit? That it was all done by the Bush administration who criminally committed acts that should have got them removed from office very early on but they were allowed to continue despite the protests of the American public?

Karen, Degraff   January 7th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

WELL TOM >>>From NO… WHERE..maybe a large rock?

1> You answered the majority of questions with YES… …
>Keep reading the articles .. you will pass someday!

2> Also Please note:
BUSH has successfully surpassed Saddam's KILL record …!!.

** Be proud of your >>>boy…! there is less people like you ….everyday!

Disgusted!

George   January 7th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

Verily, none are so blind as those who will not see. Amazing, some of the shameful, ignorant comments against Senator McGovern (example: "draft dogging (sic) commie"). Though personally I don't believe in religion, let's have some Christian pity for these benighted souls. Imagine, with their limited mental capacities, the wretched lives these people must lead, where facts mean little and warped ideology is all.

Ted, Riverhead, NY   January 7th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

"The two guys are the most dangerous world leaders today. They have done more damage to the world than any terrorist would hope to achive for hundred years.

How many lives have been lost in Irak only, and for nothing, only as a result of these criminal peoples orders (and not least young americans) based on total lies?

How much damage has this administraion contributed to the climate change catastrophy?

How much damage has this administration done to lower our opinion of America?"

To Anonymous in Europe: Right, none of the leaders in Iran, Venezuela, or Putin are dangerous at all. As for lives lost, they are American lives just like usual. The likes of you Europeans can't do anything, but you will be looking for a piece of the pie when this all works out in the end. Lastly, like we care about your opinion?? You will be the first to come running when a problem arises, despite your "opinion" of the US.

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

Good RICK I LIKED YOUR COMMENT..

Bo   January 7th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

There has been much worse U.S. president's that were not impeached…check out the history. This is promoting nothing but biased and blind hatred. Also, I thought the House impeachment of Clinton was unnecessary.

John, Washington DC   January 7th, 2008 1:16 pm ET

He's still in the wild blue yonder, I think.

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

I hope you american people will come to gether and make peace..for your own good and country.. Good Luck .. Hope to se peace soon… Mr Ken from norway..

Rick   January 7th, 2008 1:12 pm ET

I am sick of how the American people have suckered into the media and believe everything that they read or hear. The media is just as political as anyone in the White House or Congress people. They will only show or print what sells. After awhile, positivity does not sell, only the negative side. Wake Up! No one knows the whole story, only the people directly involved. That does not mean you. It's disgusting how much everybody rants that GB Jr. is only thinking about his pocketbook. BS. It's private contractors that are milking the government for everything it's worth. Wake up, maybe read a few books from both sides of the fence, and think for yourselves. You have allowed a partisan media corrupt any logical thought.

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

Rick2825

HOW MUCH FACTS DO YOU NEED friend?
I dont anderstand how you can stand by and se your country being abuesed..

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

Angela I agree with you, its time for tha American poeple to take back the country who the govermant its holding as a prisoner , they stole the country from YOU. TAKE IT BACK….

Rick2825   January 7th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Facts please. It's funny how liberals like to complain about the evil Bush administration but never, ever, provide any facts to back up their claims. Anyone who thinks the Bush administration is oppressive clearly doesn't get out much. There are people in the world who live under serious oppression who would gladly trade their government for theso-called "oppression" of the Bush administration. The next time you liberals throw a pitty party for the poor oppressed Americans, make sure you invite a few North Korean peasants or maybe some Burmese monks.

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

TOM YOU ARE BRAINWASHED. do you really beleave your govermant and arprove the things they are doing to inesent people???? TOM shame on you, you should speek up for the little one big man

John   January 7th, 2008 12:58 pm ET

The purpose of impeachment is NOT to remove Bush and or Cheney from office because "we don't like them". The purpose of impeachment in this case is to clearly show our political servents that this level of imcompetence and dishonesty cannot be tolerated.

If we do not impeach (which means investigate to determine IF crimes have been commiteed)… If we do not impeach, then we say to future political servents that they can be this bad, behave in this way, and nobody will question them or stand in their way. We'll have no reason to expect government should ever work any better than this, and our democracy will be lost…

Angela   January 7th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

What amazes me… is the fact that people can sit at their computer chairs and criticise the politicians for being too weak or soft to do anything about Bush, when we as Americans should have stood up long, long, ago and fought for change.

Bush has made a mockery out of our country and our government and we as Americans have stood idly by and allowed it to happen. All the while, expecting the politicians to make the right choices for our country.

I may be too young to have been around during the days that people stood up for what was right and what they truly believed in, but I'm not too young to realize that the American people need to stop talking and start taking action. We can complain about the Bush administration all we want, but the fact is…we allowed it to happen. So maybe we should start turning the finger of blame to ourselves and than ask why in the world we would allow such an incompetent moron too run our country?

James   January 7th, 2008 12:55 pm ET

George McGovern was a coward and Quisling who wanted to surrender to the North Vietnamese and pull our troops out of South Vietnam w/o the release of our POWs. He said he would go to Hanoi and beg for their release on his knees. He also wanted to "reform" welfare in a way that would have made half the country elgible for welfare. He was a fool and idiot then, which is why every state except Mass. voted him down, and his own state threw him out of office. Perhaps he is just senile and wants attention, like a lot of washed-up public figures. In any event, the media shows their bias by giving him attention.
God bless America, and our wise and noble leader President Bush!!!

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

they did the 9/11 tho themselves, a carefull planed attack on there own people to get the support they need to go to war and they did it, the american people now this but dont seems to care about that, they are so sceared of the lies from the american govermant so nwbody have the guts to stand opp and say that america is taken over by some people who are making a lot of money with the bin laden grup. this people will do anything for oil and power and ofcourse worlddomination. I live in norway and se thing from another prospectiv.

Tom   January 7th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

A larger portion of the American people have asked for this for a longer period of time than the segment that wanted Bill Clinton impeached. There are major differences between lying about an affair with a consenting adult than lying about Iraq. The consequences were that Hillary & Chelsea were embarassed. Compare that to thousands of my brothers-in-arms being killed & maimed.

D   January 7th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Who really cares about what McGovern has to say??? He is as much as a loser now as he was in 1972… Like President Bush and Mr Cheney said and did all of this on their own!!!! We live in a Democracy – the Senate, Congress, Intelligence, etc etc had a play in all these actions too – should we impeach of all of them too…. Let's exile all the citizens who agree with the actions… Remember since this War has started we have ZERO terrorist attacks on US soil….. Let's withdraw all the troops and then we can build metal detectors in every establishments and schools in the US… Then the companies that make metal detectors would be a great stock to purchase…

Karen L. Reimer, Mt. Bethel, PA   January 7th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

It is about time but why has it taken this long for someone of stature to speak out? Thousands of lives lost, ruined. Many in Congress and the Senate should be impeached for allowing these atrocities to go on for so long. As for Bush, Cheyney and Rice, they should be hung like Sadam.

Robert   January 7th, 2008 12:45 pm ET

We all know Rudy’s stance on books. When Ron Paul stood up to him and explained that 9/11 did not occur in a vacuum, but rather the attacks were a reaction to failed American policy, Giuliani (the mayor of New York on 9/11) was astonished. "I don't think I have ever heard that before and I have heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th." So like any respectable debater, Paul gave Rudy a reading list, which vindicated his argument. This list including the 9/11 Commission Report and a book by the former head of the CIA’s bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer. Unfortunately Paul doesn’t understand the mind of Rudy. The books he assigned were filled with big words, no pictures, and rational arguments – virtually assuring that the former mayor (during 9/11) would not look at them.

Given that Giuliani (who was mayor during 9/11) hasn’t dropped out of the race and apologized to the American public, one can only assume that he hasn’t been doing his reading. So I have a solution. Giuliani should see the new film, Charlie Wilson’s War. Though based on a book written for adults, the film contains few sentences, making it an apt choice for the former mayor.

The story follows Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson’s crusade to supply Afghani militants (mujahideen) in their fight against the Red Army. Almost a billion dollars of sniper rifles, bullets, machine guns, rocket launchers, antiaircraft guns, grenades, surface to air missiles, and an array of mines were given to these fanatics. The logistics and politics of Operation Cyclone is the topic of this film, adopted by Aaron Sorkin. Witty dialogue and outrageous characters make this a madcap adventure into the dark world of politics, complete with Mossad agents, strippers, and evangelicals.

While one can read about blowback and the devastating consequences of clandestine intervention, seeing the deeds done hits viscerally. It seems, as Bismarck said, that to retain our appetite for sausages and foreign policy, one ought not see them made. But this is what we want. Americans should be disgusted with the fact that we helped arm Muslim extremists – that their tax dollars were given to terrorists and murderers. What Charlie Wilson’s War does is unflinchingly expose the American people to the corruption and danger of our world-policing foreign policy.

Those familiar with Congressman Ron Paul and his philosophy of nonintervention will see Charlie Wilson as his antipode. Whereas Paul stresses staying out of the internal affairs of foreign nations, Wilson dedicates himself to the proposition that everything is the business of America. He, like Rudy Giuliani, clearly had never heard of blowback – the concept that our actions can have unforeseen implications.

In the polarized world of Wilson, there is only Good and Evil. At the time, Communist Russia was the Devil himself and had to be stopped at all costs…even if it meant sending weapons to bin Laden’s friends – the future Taliban. And while there was no explicit mention of bin Laden, there doesn’t need to be. Whether we armed bin Laden is irrelevant. The movie makes it clear that we allied ourselves with religious zealots, including Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (who is now listed as a terrorist). Even if we didn’t directly fund or train him, did we not support his cause? Were these rebels not labeled "freedom fighters"?

A powerful illustration of this flip-flopping comes when some powerful Congressman goes to the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan to chant, "God is Great" in Arabic. Imagine doing that today! And this is exactly what Ron Paul is decrying. He understands that the world is complex and changing, filled not with monoliths but nuance. He is too humble to profess to mete out perfect justice.

Eventually Wilson gets it. So does he seek to rectify the situation by eschewing future intervention? Nope. The solution is more money – this time to build schools and infrastructure. Afghanistan was to become the 51st state, for America to rule and westernize. If the medicine isn’t working, reasons Wilson, the only answer is a higher dosage

Contrast this view with that of Dr. Paul. Just as the Soviets of yesteryear were the boogeyman, today Islamofascism is. And just as some said we needed to accept totalitarianism at home to fight the Red Menace abroad, so too today do we have the neocons who sound the clarion call against the archaic notion of rights and liberty.

But Paul says we need to understand blowback. We need to understand our enemy if we ever hope to protect ourselves. Our war against the Soviets created unintended consequences. Who knows what the War on Terror will create. Unless there is a direct threat against America and the retribution is targeted and declared, all intervention must necessarily be deemed unwise and intrusive.

Far from an archaic relic, Ron Paul’s foreign policy of noninterventionism is the only viable one for the real world. Ron Paul is the only one sensible enough to understand that no council, Congress, or commander-in-chief can rule the world. How can a man like Giuliani, who reads only neoconservative tracts with titles like World War IV, be expected to understand much of anything?

Like Giuliani, Wilson snarkily demeans this philosophy when he responds that America’s inaction is a result of Congress’s "tradition." But there’s nothing wrong with a tradition of peace and obeying the Constitution. It’s the tradition Ron Paul wants to bring back.

What disturbs me the most, however, is the real Charlie Wilson. On CBS’s Sunday Morning, an interviewer asked him if had any regrets. He brazenly replied, "None. What’re you gonna regret?"

I’m not sure. Maybe it could be the arming of butchers and despots who killed thousands and paved the way to September 11th. Just a thought.

January 7, 2008

Max Raskin [send him mail] goes to high school in New Jersey. He was a summer fellow at the Mises Institute in 2007.

Ceptor   January 7th, 2008 12:45 pm ET

When did they open the crypt and let this guy out?

finnmarkken   January 7th, 2008 12:43 pm ET

they are criminals who must be taken down by the law. it shudnt be a problem with all the evidents..

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 7th, 2008 12:40 pm ET

"Clinton had eight YEARS. Why did he leave the problem for Bush to solve? If Bush was supposed to prevent the attack with eight months of data, why couldn't Clinton do it with eight YEARS worth?"

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Clinton: 8 years of data
Bush : 8 years of data + 8 months

Sam Sultan   January 7th, 2008 12:38 pm ET

Complete respect towards McGovern. It takes courage to come up and say something like this. However, if he has the courage to say it, we need congress to have the courage to agree on this. These past 7 years have been completely barbaric. I live abroad, and it is 100 % true that many countries around the world look down upon us.

Should the United States still be considered such a superpower? The dollar decreasing, the national debt and the imminent occupation of Iran. The United States of America should be an example to the rest of the world. Well I should stop before the CIA ends up at my door.

Evan   January 7th, 2008 12:38 pm ET

McGovern Who?

I know he was the millionaire on Gilligan's Island that also did the McGoo cartoons.

Just what America needs another loser who wants 15 more minutes of fame. I guess we can expect Bill to be doing it next when Obama is President.

Karen, Oh   January 7th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Bush and Cheney CRIME REPORT: >>for those of you keeping score:
Fraud with election results in Florida/Ohio
-Failure to heed intelligence that could have prevented 9/11
-Failure to lead a successful war campaign in Afghanistan
-Failure to capure Osama Bin Laden
-Defrauding the nation to declare war on Iraq
-Shady issuing of Halliburton contracts
-Coverup of past AWOL situation while in the Air National Guard
-Valerie Plame incident
-Firing of U.S. attorneys
-Illegal wiretapping and intelligence techniques
-Tacit endorsement of torture
-Holding captives without charges or trial at Guantanamo
-Criminal neglect of Hurricane Katrina crisis
-Fake news reports and staged press conferences
-Absolute refusal to cooperate with investigations into any of these misdeeds
- Assassination, execution and annillation of an innocent country
All of this, plus his abhorrent political positions, which are intolerant, warmongering, theocratic, and economically simpleminded and impractical.
What a disgusting, criminally corrupt adminstration! Not only should they be impeached one by one, they should be in jail!!

mary   January 7th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

OK PEOPLE, ALL OF YOU IN FAVOR OF BEGINNING IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS, PLEASE PLEASE DO MORE THAN LEAVE A COMMENT ON CNN. CALL AND WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND INSIST THAT THEY SUPPORT IMPEACHMENT.

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONE OF THE FREEDOMS WE STILL HAVE LEFT (TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS TO OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES) AND DO SOMETHING TODAY!!! (YES, TODAY — NOT TOMORROW, NOT NEXT WEEK — DO IT TODAY — YOU WILL FEEL GOOD FOR HAVING PARTICIPATED IN YOUR GOVERNMENT AND STANDING UP FOR AMERICA, I PROMISE.)

Tom   January 7th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL 11:37 am

"Bush had 8 months to prevent 9/11 and miserably failed. He had EVERY BIT OF SPY INTELLIGENCE that Clinton had PLUS 8 MORE MONTHS OF DATA."

Hmmm. Eight months. Clinton had eight YEARS. Why did he leave the problem for Bush to solve? If Bush was supposed to prevent the attack with eight months of data, why couldn't Clinton do it with eight YEARS worth?

Because, the intelligence wasn't that good. Ask me why the defense intelligence budget decreased after 1992 to pre-1980 levels? Go ahead, ask me… I dare you. The overall intelligence budget dropped sharply after Clinton took office too… hmm… well, that MUST be Bush's fault.

Should Clinton be impleached for failing to do his sworn duty to protect this country? No. Should Bush be impeached for trying to do his sworn duty of protecting this country? No.

George   January 7th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

Let them stay and let them go down in history as two of the worst officials in US History. Impeachment takes the nations business and puts it on hold. We can not afford to be on hold.

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

To all of the people here who have any support to impeach the president, get off the blog and write a letter to your congress representative. If you do no tget a response then start writing again, visiting their office. Start demanding the rights you have as American people! Start demanding the changes you want. Too often people are busy going to amusement parks, filing their taxes, paying student loans, etc……. Start rising! Start exercising your rights! Befofre this topic ever came up I have written to several congress! No one respojnds! If I was in the states now, I would be doing what I am telling you to do! I am doing it from overseas!

To the person who asks about how Bush has lied to the American people? Read the book 'The Price of Loyalty', 'The Economic Hitman', the Downing Street Memos, Listen to Fireman Testimony of 911, ask about the destroyed tapes of firemen that the fires were under control, asl to see one video of the crash into the south tower showing that is clearly a commercial aircraft? Start investigating and start rising up!

No one should criticise any politician or speak until they have done their part and whatever they can!

Also I think many people are scared and now not afraid to speak up because the Bush term is ended, clearly, and before it may have been dangerous to speak up!

Now it is more safe! So speak up at the time it is safe! Rise together and take action now that it is safe!

William Wells   January 7th, 2008 12:20 pm ET

You have a problem with timing. It would take more than 18 months to create any hearing and the current congress can't agree on anything to date. At the same time, the Clinton years offered just as much impeachable offenses and I didn't see anyone moving more agressively during that administration. Sounds more like sour grapes from an old Demo that wanted some press time.

Roxanne   January 7th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

I fully agree with Mr. McGovern and have advocated for it for at least 3 years. I am disheartened that current members of the House and Senate (with the exception of Mr. Wexler and a few others) don't want to bother; and/or, don 't think it's too much of a distraction in an election year. I don't buy it. If moral values are so important ( and they should be) as those on the right profess, they should support articles of impeachment irrespective of party affiliation, as the values embodied in our Constitution and Bill of Rights continue to be eroded. The precedent of not impeaching (accusing) is the most dangerous to our Republic, notwithstanding Speaker Pelosi's realization that without a filibuster or veto proof majority, the result of a trial in the Senate is in doubt. Additional high crimes and misdemeanors continue to mount; numerous articles of impeachment are warranted. Our founding fathers warned us when they said "if we can keep it".

Michael Beusch, San Mateo, CA   January 7th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

George McGovern, once again, hits the nail right on the head. Bush and Cheney have raped the Constitution in the name of national security. Way too many people have blindly (and dumbly) gone along with the dictatorial desecration of all the freedoms President Bush claims to love. Senator McGovern — whether the right wing nuts want to admit it or not — is one of the most decent men to ever serve in the United States Senate. When someone of his quality of character calls for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney, every American should listen.

And for those of you who want to label McGovern as nothing more than a faded 60's radical, you might want to know that he served honorably and heroically as an Air Force pilot during World War II, winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. It's amazing how followers of a frat boy like George W. Bush who used his wealth and family connections to avoid military service are so willing to denegrate the patriotism of genuine war heroes like George McGovern. It's the same old right wing double standard. Even after seven years of corruption and violations of human rights and civil liberties, it's amazing that some people will bash a decent man like George McGovern in favor of the Bush line of b.s.

Ryan Indianapolis   January 7th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

CNN is there a reason that you have had this as you ticker headline for the last two days………You left-wing bias is sickening and more less you are using a old used up loser like McGovern to do your dirty work. Cnn you are pathetic…..

Eilleen   January 7th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

I totally agree with George McGovern. I have signed petitions for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney but wonder where they have gone. Upon receiving numerous telephone calls from Democratic contenders I have advised them that I will make a contribution when I see the candidate initiating impeachment proceedings.

Jeff in North Dakota   January 7th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

I am praying for President Bush and Vice President Cheney. I am praying that they are impeached, removed from office, and held accountable for their war crimes.

Theo, Manorville, NY   January 7th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

Bush had 8 months to prevent 9/11 and miserably failed. He had EVERY BIT OF SPY INTELLIGENCE that Clinton had PLUS 8 MORE MONTHS OF DATA. Condi Rice had info on her desk about the danger and ignored it. Bush was so unconcerned, he took vacation for the month before 9/11 and never contacted George Tenet.

"grow -up" and stop fantasizing that the terrorists completed their activities and then did nothing for 8 months right before 9/11. You can bet they weren't on vacation like Bush. It's unlikely they spent their time reading "The Pet Goat" too.

The only intelligence Clinton was worried about was Cuba……….. for it's cigars!! Yea, Condi had info on her desk that said "empty the WTC, here come some planes". Idiot. You probably think the batter that made the last out is the one who lost the game, right? It's a long process, and we know what Bill was doing, er I mean WHO Bill was doing. The first WTC bombing and USS Cole were not enough to wake up Bill and Al, so let's just blame W. instead.

supergus   January 7th, 2008 11:58 am ET

The last eight years makes former President Clinton's impeachment look so silly. I wonder if there is a way to have an impeachment officially reversed?

Ronnie, Degraff   January 7th, 2008 11:54 am ET

>>>EXILE BUSH TO IRAQ!!

!! This would solve many problems and be …a .. low cost to the tax payer!!
I'm sure Iraq won't have any political patience …for Bush's war crimes…s and
he would be sentenced quickly, fairly and cheaply!!

AHHH …….THE SWEET TASTE of Democracy!!!
> Isn't that one of Bush's Quotes?<

Justin   January 7th, 2008 11:52 am ET

Yes. Please Impeach them both. Now. It´s time Bush and Cheney are held accountable for their words and for their actions, which were clearly criminal, and much worse then Nixon, Clinton, or any presidential scandal in recent memory.

They almost brought America to a 1950´s McCarthy reality… replacing "communist" with "terrorist" and the US continues to hold "terror suspects" overseas without any right of attorney, trial, or due process. What kind of example is this to the world? If the US is allowed to torture suspects, then what will nations like North Korea, China, or Iran do to their prisoners? Thank you sir, for speaking out and being a true citizen. I hope Congress takes his appeal seriously and Impeaches Bush and Cheney in ´08. The US and the world would applaud justice finally being carried out against these criminals. Halliburton? Torture? Weapons of Mass Destruction? Afghanistan? Iraq? Guantanemo? Illegal surveillance? Hurricane Katrina response? The list goes on and on… and I believe George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are criminals, and I know that others believe the same. Impeach them in 2008!

Trish   January 7th, 2008 11:51 am ET

Well put, McGovern. I agree, and not just because everyone else does either. Pres Bush and all of his men have literally "ruined' this country's economy, the little guy doesn';t stand a chance. The war was totally uncalled for and our poor troops and their families have suffered unneeded agony. Many of them have lost something they can never get back….. like their son or daughter. No other country has respect for the US anymore, and I agree they both need to be punished for the way they have lied to all of the American people.

Chris   January 7th, 2008 11:46 am ET

It is about time, hopefully something will actually come from this, even though it is a little late to get much done. After they get them impeached, I would like to see trials for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Only then will the people of the world see justice being served.

bernard   January 7th, 2008 11:45 am ET

This is 100% true! Impeach and arrest these 2 criminals for the sake of American History while we still have a chance. Bush and Cheney have made a mockery of the constitution and the reputation of America for financial gain, greed and hatred.
How could ANYONE support these 2 thugs? They BOTH belong behind bars! This should have been a top story only the "loyal" fellow republican will never see it this way… just like in the time of Hitler.

pam echeverria   January 7th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Amen. Vermont is the only state to cry impeachment for these war criminals. I don't think it is ever too late to tell the world that we can correct ourselves and I fear if we don't sent this message via impeachment and arrest, our greatness will be forever lost.

saul   January 7th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Oh yes, right-wing logic works! Just take a look at W — the picture of a logical man indeed — please. And Dick and Rove, logical men only if deviousness is logic.
The truth is that Congress approved the invasion because it was presented with false and fabricated "evidence". From the Downing Street Memo on down the evidence of the fabrication has only accumulated and it more than constitutes grounds for impeachment. If the administration wants to argue against this evidence, that is a matter for the Impeachment trial before the Senate.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 7th, 2008 11:37 am ET

"im sure everyone here knows it only takes a couple months to plan 9-11 right , thats why they keep saying it happened on bush's watch , grow -up a plan like that took years of planning, remember they trained pilots , that is not something that happens overnight, they infiltrated our country and had been here planning and training for years prior to the attack , this was not an " ok everyone in the car lets go kill americans" dont you dare blame Bush for the inaction of the democrats in office when the plan was hatched ,"
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Bush had 8 months to prevent 9/11 and miserably failed. He had EVERY BIT OF SPY INTELLIGENCE that Clinton had PLUS 8 MORE MONTHS OF DATA. Condi Rice had info on her desk about the danger and ignored it. Bush was so unconcerned, he took vacation for the month before 9/11 and never contacted George Tenet.

"grow -up" and stop fantasizing that the terrorists completed their activities and then did nothing for 8 months right before 9/11. You can bet they weren't on vacation like Bush. It's unlikely they spent their time reading "The Pet Goat" too.

Jeff, Houston, Texas   January 7th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Hold on. Are you sure you want to impeach them? Do not forget what the hypocritcal Bible-thumpers tend to do with their messiahs.

Geroge Bush and Dick Cheny would then be even more virulent than ever. A flesh AND mind eating bacteria we would never be rid of.

Instead, focus on how to repair the damage these two ghouls have done to our nation and the world. Focus on the election!

Robin, Degraff   January 7th, 2008 11:33 am ET

EXILE BUSH TO IRAQ!!

!! This would solve many problems and be …a .. low cost to the tax payer!!
I'm sure Iraq won't have any political patience …for Bush's war crimes…s and
he would be sentenced quickly, fairly and cheaply!!

AHHH …….THE SWEET TASTE of Democracy!!!
> Isn't that one of Bush's Quotes?<

collins   January 7th, 2008 11:33 am ET

One candidate has suggested to invade Pakstan if he is the president. No wonder so many people in the world are hostile to American today.

If we are ready to the third world war , then let our troops invade Pakestan.

Karen E. D. Thompson   January 7th, 2008 11:32 am ET

I can not believe McGovern's statement in reference to President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
McGovern has no respect for the President or Vice President.
McGovern has not had to face all of the terrible events President Bush and Vice President Cheney have had laid upon them while in office.
I think McGovern not making the Democratic ticket for President speaks for itself.

jay davis   January 7th, 2008 11:28 am ET

For you whackjobs – Congress voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq. Iraq failed to comply with numerous UN resolutions and the UN failed to respond. The US Congress reviewed intel and came to the conclusion – that Saddam Hussein had WMD. The same conclusion was reached by Putin, Great Britain, and other nations. Even Bill Clinton in his second term stated S. Hussein had these WMD. A lie is a statement in error in attempt to mislead. Was Bill Clinton lying about the WMD? Putin? T Blair?

Harold Snodgrass Deland, FL   January 7th, 2008 11:27 am ET

I am sick and tired of these liberals and their ridiculous opinions.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything about the removal of a president for any type of action taken whatsoever. And if it does, then the Constitution must be destroyed.
Bush and Cheney have done absolutely nothing wrong during their entire tenures.
If you believe anything differently, then you belive that Bigfoot planned and orchestrated 9/11 while wearing an Elvis costume.
Anyone who even remotely disagrees with this president or his policies, or any action or statement of the Republican Party, belives that the moon landing was faked.
Moonbats!

Kabil Azad Khan   January 7th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Indisputable evidence has forced me to support this call for the impeachment of Bush & Cheney. While the possibility exists that Bush was ill advised, it is unbelieveably true that Cheney, with fine intelligence & passion, skilfully manipulated the office of the President, to commit these horrible & unjustifiable acts, which I am absolutely sure gave him extreme orgasmic satisfaction. It is very sad indeed to observe the systematic erosion of respect & honour of this great supercharged nation – The United States Of America. This nation was blessed with the ability to maintain world peace & order, but on the contrary, there was blatant abuse of it's military supremacy for very wrong & inhuman reasons. It is very ironic when Bush states his intent to bring the perpetrators of crime to justice, while him and his followers escapes the application of the national & international rule of law. What a shame.

UCallUrSelfAmerican   January 7th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Will all of you morons just stop complaining! who gave bush second terms? they were and are US!!! so wake up OK!!! we made the mistakes.. bush is just being a bush! he messed it up on his first term, and we LOVES HIM!!!

there are so many disagreement to their policies, but none of so called american express it out publicly! All we do just sit n complaints… typical american!!!

Anonymous, Europe   January 7th, 2008 11:20 am ET

The two guys are the most dangerous world leaders today. They have done more damage to the world than any terrorist would hope to achive for hundred years.

How many lives have been lost in Irak only, and for nothing, only as a result of these criminal peoples orders (and not least young americans) based on total lies?

How much damage has this administraion contributed to the climate change catastrophy?

How much damage has this administration done to lower our opinion of America?

Kurt   January 7th, 2008 11:20 am ET

The answer by the way is NO ONE. Bill Clinton won with only 43% of the popular vote. Need I remind everyone of Ross Perot. The both parties are thinking that if you don't tote their line your aren't a good Dem. or Rep. Why do you think people blame Dem. losses on poor Ralph Nader. People voted for him because they didn't get what they wanted from either of the major parties. Can you all please think for yourselves!

Lance in Monrovia   January 7th, 2008 11:18 am ET

this country will never be right if we don't start impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney. Future leaders must know that they cannot get away with ignoring the law. Impeach. Impeach. Impeach!!!

RealityKing   January 7th, 2008 11:18 am ET

"a lack of courage and statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians."

Kurt   January 7th, 2008 11:16 am ET

In reading some of these comments it is obvious the only impeachment is brought up is the 2000 election. Every time the vote was recounted Bush still had the majority. Thank God the Founders put the Electoral College in place so there would be clear winners (whinners). I blame that debacale on the Al Gore. If he had been a man an conceded defeat (like he was planning to) on election night this country would have been more united. But he got to a point of no return and had to ride it out to the bitter end. I ask this question. Who had a majority of the popular vote (for the country) in the '92 election? See if any of you can remember that far back as to who was running.

Mike   January 7th, 2008 11:15 am ET

If it doesn't scare you that there are no impeachments proceeding started yet against the most corrupt President in the history of the United States….IT SHOULD. You should be really scared that the people who govern this country are either so inept or so blackmailed that they can't impeach the most "slam dunk"
guilty president in the history of the United States.

Forget all of the excuses about congress precious time, dividing the nation, he only has x months left in office and the rest of the BS excuses….We are talking about holding the guy with the highest office in the land accountable, for crimes against his own people.

Those kinds of things don't have "excuses", you just do it.

How could this possibly be? Is our government and system of checks and balances so broken that it won't even impeach a president whose impeachable offenses are already known and don't even need to be investigated….Offenses that he has admitted to on National Television?

Just the mere fact that no one seems to be able to even start the proceedings should have people wondering what is going on in Washington….Have you called your congressman or senator today? Have you told them you will vote against them if they don't support impeachment?

That is the only currency these people will listen to…..that and being recalled

t-ay   January 7th, 2008 11:15 am ET

bush is low down scum

t-ray   January 7th, 2008 11:15 am ET

bush is low down scum

Mark   January 7th, 2008 11:14 am ET

If anyone should be impeached it is the American belief that somehow when we have a bad administration it's not "our" fault. Our democratic way of life put him there. He had no credentials other than his last name to be President. Our society allowed incompetence to lead us. Whether you voted for him or not isn't the issue. You have to accept that our system allows such people to assume power. I didn't vote for Bush or agree with him, but I am, as an American citizen in a democratic society also to be blamed for, Iraq, 9/11, Global Warming, illegal wire taping, torture etc. This is our fualt. When you accept living in a democracy you must also accept the fualts of your leaders as your own. If we ever once did that, we would be more careful and thoughtful who we elect.

Rich W.   January 7th, 2008 11:11 am ET

I certainly agree with the constitutional issue here. You guys really should not dismiss Ron Paul ideas on this government – see, if we go with ANY of them (Obama, Romney, Clinton, McCain, Huckerbee etc..) we are simply propagating the myth of big government controlling our people and our lives. We don't need this war, we don't need this welfare state, we need sound economic policy and Ron Paul is the only one that speaks the truth and clearly has the true voice of change. His voice of change is to completely bring us back to what this country was founded on – life, liberty, and happiness under a fiscally sound constitutional government. None of these other "candidates" are about change. We need a real future for our country, and the only way its gonna happen, is to rethink our government and what it does. Ron Paul speaks the truth – forget these other people.

John, Houston, TX   January 7th, 2008 11:08 am ET

Scott said "They only seek to pad the pockets of the individuals that put them in power." I voted for them, where's my check?

Tom Boggs   January 7th, 2008 11:05 am ET

The poor old fool!

AC   January 7th, 2008 11:03 am ET

McGovern's still alive? Wow!

Mark   January 7th, 2008 11:02 am ET

You have to be kidding! GW will be long gone before Congress gets around to this – you're about 5 years late on this one…

Ranger, Degraff OH   January 7th, 2008 11:01 am ET

>>WE ARE A GREAT COUNTRY! WHY CAN'T WE AGREE TO STOP BUSH AND
….SHOW THE WORLD OUR ABILITY TO DO WHATS RIGHT!

BUSH IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE TO COVER HIS MISTAKES!
BUSH WILL NEVER ADMIT HIS MISTAKES..MOST KILLERS DON'T!….WE WILL
HAVE TO "INCARCERATE" HIM AND ADMIT ..WE MADE THE MISTAKE OF

PLACING HIM INTO OFFICE!

WE OWE IT TO THE INNOCENT TO STOP THE KILLING …!!

Disgusted Army Vet > who laid is life on the line …for what ?

……. Bush is destroying everything we VETS sacrificed for!!

Mitch   January 7th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Many of the offenses committed by this administration are impeachable offenses, a few with precedent. However, I believe that there is also a case to be made that the complete failure to uphold and defend the constitution actually meets the standards of treason.

Anton, Conifer, CO   January 7th, 2008 11:00 am ET

It leaves a nauseatingly empty feeling in the pit of my stomach to acknowledge that the American public will stand by and let this administration calmly walk into history without making them accountable for their sins – both criminal and moral.

If we still had a military draft as we had in the Vietnam era, Bush and Cheney would likely already be out the door, bodily removed from the White House by the largest number of outraged citizens ever to descend upon this nation's capital.

Draft or not, out beloved young men and women have been conscripted to fight the Afghani and Iraqi wars for private, economic reasons. History will ultimately demonstrate that as fact and no double-talking spin master will be able to put lipstick on that pig and win a beauty contest with it.

The sickening reality is that it doesn't matter what country on earth and its respective culture you inspect – human nature dictates that unless issues directly affect a person as an individual there is insufficient incentive to power a movement that results in a decisive, collective response.

Instead, apathy and sheep-like inaction ultimately prevails. Cheney and his pals know this basic truth all too well. All they have to do is hide behind their spin doctors and wait for the day they can slip out the back door to catch a private plane to Dubai for the "Mission Accomplished" party.

Rich   January 7th, 2008 10:59 am ET

I can't believe the stuff I'm reading here! It is mainly a collection of unsubstantiated accusations, half-truths, and outright lies propogated by the media and repeated by ill-informed, uneducated people. If there are only "2 or 3 Bush/Cheney supporters" responding to this posting it's because we all have jobs and have much better things to do than whine and complain all the time.

Robert Bradshaw   January 7th, 2008 10:59 am ET

I am so supprised to see the amount of disrespect given to President Bush and Vice President Cheney. I know that after September 11th attacks we went on a defensive and instead of being attacked now we are a more pro-active country. I know that all politicians have good and bad points but people lets wise up has our country been savagely attacked again in the manner of September 11th last time I checked we have not been. Sometimes it takes events horriffic as it may be to happen to our Country and our people to wise up and chart new courses so as to remain the greatest country on the face of the earth. As a citizen I am angry with job loss in my state of Ohio, I am angry with not being able to secure employment even with College edjucation and a Law Enforcement backround, however I choose to leave these things in God's hands as he can handle them better than I can. I challenge our Country to pray for our President and Vice President and the rest of the world leaders and for peace. We all seem to rush to judgement instead of taking care of our own when we make mistakes. Is Impeachment what we need I think not our men and women in battle don't need that hanging over their heads as they battle, and I gotta believe that our country does not neet another scandall or any further pain , people lets do what we as Americans do best when we are unhappy with our leader we elect a new one and give that person an opportunity to serve our best interests and the good of the common man. Thanks for listening lets support our country and our President and Vice President like good Americans and make changes through elections let us not continue to destroy the respect for both of those offices. Thanks God Bless

JOhn   January 7th, 2008 10:57 am ET

I voted for Bush two times and would vote a third if he could run again….

neilmckenty   January 7th, 2008 10:57 am ET

It really is ridiculous to impeach a president who engaged in sexual activity with a consenting adult and refuse to impeach a president who lied the country into a dreadful war. Frankly, I would like to see Bush and Cheney charged before the International Court at the HAGUE.

Khandaker Mustaque Ahamed, Rome, Italy   January 7th, 2008 10:56 am ET

I have read most of the 836 comments but found a few (6/7) that is against the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. But will the wish of most of the peoples be reached on that point?

Rhonda   January 7th, 2008 10:54 am ET

No wonder CNN has lost all of their viewers to FOX. Most of their viewers are as crazy as McGovern. The people knew he has a flake in 1972 and nothing has changed. I am not happy with Bush either but Impeachment would be a big waste of time and money just like it was with Clinton. Bush may be bad but Pelosi,Reid and the whole Congress are worse.

Ralph, NC   January 7th, 2008 10:52 am ET

There is some evidence that Bush has a medical condition called "pre-senile dementia," which is essentially early onset Alzheimer's disease.

This would explain a lot.

Allison, NH   January 7th, 2008 10:50 am ET

Bush shouldn't have been president in the first place! Remember – Gore got the popular vote….Bush won soley because of Florida. Interesting how that worked since his bro is the Governor.

I love the idea of impeaching Bush, although it should have happened years ago. I know for myself, that as worthy as it sounds…I just do not have the energy to watch the country go through with it right now. I'd like to focus myself on the upcoming elections this year and figure out who is the best person for change. I think we all have Bush fatigue.

Come November, one way or another, the Death Star will collapse…and we'll all be able to turn over a new leaf and breath a sigh of relief. Hopefully that person will govern this country the exact opposite way it has been run for the last 7 years. There are only a few people I can see doing that – and they all happen to be Democrats.

Canadianeh   January 7th, 2008 10:49 am ET

I wanted to extend my deepest of sympathies to the entire American people who are the real victims here. The acts of both of these monsters should not go unpunished as their greed has only created seeds of hate and terror that will comeback to haunt the American people years to come!! This war was a sham from day one and the greatest tragedy was that these animals used the blood of American soldiers; men and women; to wash the filth off of their hands. They have exploited the strong patriotism of the American people; which is admired by the rest of world, to stuff their own pockets deep with wealth for generations to come. They aren't the ones that need to be held accountable either. Don't forget to add Tony Blair (lucky he got out in time) and Stephen Harper to the impeachment list!!

CK   January 7th, 2008 10:47 am ET

Good for McGovern for standing up and stating this. While I agree that immediate impeachment would be a START to what ought to be coming to them, I also feel that it may be too late to impeach them. Still, what they've done to this country is at best appalling, let alone embarassing.

CD   January 7th, 2008 10:47 am ET

We (the people) should impeach Congress as well. They are just as much to blame as Bush/ Cheney.

Grace RN   January 7th, 2008 10:44 am ET

Not only do I agree that it is WAY PAST time to impeach both of them, but Bush should have been tried for manslaughter by neglect after the Katrina debacle.

jay davis   January 7th, 2008 10:44 am ET

Please "Move On" with your impeachment proceedings Dummycrats! The more you spew your hateful, nonsensical rhetoric the easier it is for moderate Americans to move away from illogical liberal ideas and policies. Call your representatives in the House to begin the impeachment process!

Chris Kinter   January 7th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Finally a real Warrior(50 missions plus in the flying coffin B24) who never shunned away from fighting for his country talks straight about the chicken hawks who stole their way into political office. Instead of wasting our resources impeaching them perhaps it would be better to send their whole crew to the Haugue for War Crimes. Once they are convicted they can sit in Spandua prison for twenty years. Then once their settled in the home for wayward facsists. We can get our country back on track to live up to its creed and look out for what's good for all of us. We have gone from a country of the people for the people and by the people to one of, for the corporation, of the corporation and by the corporation. No values, no morals and especially no decency. The first monopoly to be busted up thoroughly is the media empires who mold opinion to satisfy these corporations. They have marginalized many of our cantidates and stolen the issues and kept the debate from taking on the real problems we are facing as a world and country.

James   January 7th, 2008 10:42 am ET

How can we impeach Bush and Chaney without including the incumbent Republican legislators of the Senate and House whose gross actions enabled the pair to wreck this nation? Forget B&C (history will immortalize them as trash) and concentrate on getting every incumbent politician removed from Office ASAP. Then, we the people must hold the feet of the replacements to the fire never again entrusting our responsibility to govern ourselves to professional politicians. The Constitution needs amendment; laws require to be changed and people-proofed; and the Nation must never forget how we lost hold of our government to those who enriched themselves at our expense and our reputation. Remember that the Legislators who were part of this are now running for the President of the United States. Dare you allow Clinton, Obama, McCain ect. to gain power? My answer is NO!

jay davis   January 7th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Please "Move On" with impeachment proceedings far-left Dummycrats. The more you spew your hateful, nonsensical rhetoric the easier it will be for moderate Americans to reject liberal policies.

jrstafford   January 7th, 2008 10:40 am ET

Well stated! Let's get it done!

jr Campbell   January 7th, 2008 10:39 am ET

I think its too late to charge them with impeachment. If it's possible i'd wait until they are out of office to bring any charges against them so they would have to spend their own money to defend themselves; thats what it'sall about isn't it MONEY. These two have so trampled the U. S. Constitution, and stretched the executive powers to the point where I will never vote for a Republican again. And that to me is a shame, since we need people who are willing to vote for a person, and not just a party.

james , Dallas Texas   January 7th, 2008 10:36 am ET

im sure everyone here knows it only takes a couple months to plan 9-11 right , thats why they keep saying it happened on bush's watch , grow -up a plan like that took years of planning, remember they trained pilots , that is not something that happens overnight, they infiltrated our country and had been here planning and training for years prior to the attack , this was not an " ok everyone in the car lets go kill americans" dont you dare blame Bush for the inaction of the democrats in office when the plan was hatched , Clinton was warned about Osama but was to busy playing with cigars to care , and the (some)american people were so busy calling for impeachment they didn't notice , democratic congress has been in office a year and has done nothing, absolutly nothing, when the democrats dont get their E.I.C. on time this year they'll be calling to impeach congress too , how about an imagration bill, a health care bill that actully has something to do with healthcare,, how about anything , hell just vote on anything, i'll take a bill to ban paper clips as long as i know my Dollars arnt being wasted on salarys for in active congressmen on vacation in the Hamptons , yeah impeach our president and vice president, let Pelosi run american , from her beach house cause she sure hasn't been in washington lately!!!!!!!!!!!!

David, Tampa, Fl   January 7th, 2008 10:32 am ET

While I can't wait for these two to be gone, I remember the Clinton impeachment debacle and the destructive effects it had across America. So I dont favor impeachment. I would hope that we can begin to focus on the messes that both parties have created. There are far too mny pressing issues in our country going forward. We need for Our academic, business and government to begin getting us off the oil standard and develope alternative energy policies. Address our crumbling infrastructure and increase in violence in our society. Good ridence to Bush/Cheney and the Republican concept of loyal opposition, i.e. Obstructionism. Here is my new rule for congress to operate by, if you have a good idea bring it, debate it and make a good law from it, not the junk we have been getting for the last 70 years.

John Starnes Tampa Florida   January 7th, 2008 10:32 am ET

Something I find to be both revealing and vicariously embarassing is that the VERY few pro-Bush posters almost inevitably resort to 8th grade level name-calling (i.e. "liberal loonies") in place of making informed and convincing defenses of the non-elected President they claim to admire. Interesting too how many of their posts are rife with horrific grammar and mispelling of the same ilk The Decider has made his mainstay. And to those who harp "he has kept us safe since 9-11″, please remember two crucial things…..Bush ignored warnings that summer from his top security advisors that Al Qaida had something BIG in the works, likely to take place IN the U.S……Bush's response was to take yet ANOTHER month long vacation at his pseudo-ranch in Crawford……also……there was an eight year gap between the first attack on the World Trade Center and the 9-11 attack…so the lack of an attack here since 9-11 can hardly be immediately credited to the Cheney/Bush regime who have damaged America far more deeply and more effectively than Bin Laden could have ever hoped to in his wildest dreams. They made their wealthy friends even more wildly wealthy while trashing America on almost every conceivable level, with deception and rigged elections central to their efforts. Impeach both NOW as a first step towards insuring that our country can never again be hijacked by power hungry greedy traitors.

Dave, Atlanta, GA   January 7th, 2008 10:32 am ET

McWho? The guy's name sounds like a government issue hamburger. Every once in a while you have the politician-turned-cantakerous-old-man who comes out and says something outrageous, and it's news for a couple of days.

Shaka   January 7th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Now it is almost time for their terms to be up and the call is out for impeachment. I think that all three, since they were leaders need to go to jail. I have always said this when it was unpopular. If they get away with all of the illegal things they have done, then an example will be set and others will do the same and site Bush and Chaney as their example because they will have gotten away with it. I truly believe in the Bible. Remember how Bush tried to run on his campaign on his belief in the Bible. He overlooked the part that said, "Blessed are the Peace Makers for they will be called Children of God." We know that he cares more about making his friends rich (over 100 American corporations are in Iraq making profits in the eleven digits figures, got this off the internet) than the lives of our young people. I truly believe that God's grace is off of America. The evil people are winning the battle between good and evil. We have lost our conscious because we called good bad and bad good. We are in the time when big corporations let people go who have worked with them for decades and call it down-sizing. We need prayer and more prayer. When we finish, we need to fast and pray more for the lives lost, for the poor and those who are suffering because of this administration.

Bill   January 7th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Mr. McGovern said of Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, "They have lied to the American people time after time."

How has the president lied to the American people? What are the lies?

Kat, PA   January 7th, 2008 10:27 am ET

As far as I am concerned, Democrats are calling for impeachment to retaliate for Clinton's impeachment.

John   January 7th, 2008 10:22 am ET

Why are focusing on this? What good is this going to do for our country if we impeach a president and vice president when the term is basically over with. The focus right now should be the potential presidential candidates. If Bush and Cheney were going to be impeached, it would have happened a long time ago anyway. I really think this is more out of true hate than anything else. Again, lets focus on who is going to be our next leader.

Zinnia   January 7th, 2008 10:21 am ET

Dear Steve,

This country listens to "Old Fools" every day.

Bobby G - Bethlehem, PA   January 7th, 2008 10:20 am ET

Damon,
You are a world-class hypocrite. First you tell us who don't support the imperialistic Bush doctrine to shut up, then in the very next sentence you tell us you, as a soldier, are fighting for free speech.
No you aren't, nor are most of our soldiers. You proved it in your own comment. I don't know exactly what you ARE fighting for, but it is most certainly NOT free speech or you wouldn't be telling dissenters to shut up.
BG
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." – Thomas Jefferson (maybe he should shut up, too)

Gbryant   January 7th, 2008 10:18 am ET

They have not been held accountable for anything they have done. It is a mystery to me why they have gotten away with so much. In the past democratic presidents have been nailed to the wall for much less. I guess big money talks.

Renee   January 7th, 2008 10:17 am ET

All of you call yourself Americans!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!! Have you forgotten what happend September 11th, 2001! Have you forgotten about the war in Afganastan! I think so!!! Be thankful that you live in a country where you can talk out about the government. Over there you will be killed for what you are saying. They don't have that right you have. My friends are in this war, I defend my country and so does my husband and to see what this McGovern wants to do and what you people have written about our President and Vice President……well is this not treason! Neither President Bush or Vice President Chaney should be impeached. And let me guess….all of you wanted Kerry to become President. Like that would have been better. I am scarred for this election. To see who will be come our next leader frightens me as a military member. But let that next leader take our troops out and you see what happens……you don't think we will get another attack. If that is so you all are blind. You are going to wish we had Bush or Chaney back in office. What they have done takes more courage to do than you can even think of. Not one of you that has spoken out against our President is a true American. If you don't like that policies that you are living under get out of my country! But as my duty….I still defend ignorant, cowards such as you people every day. Be Thankfull if you can!

Kurt   January 7th, 2008 10:16 am ET

Throwing arounds words like "impeachment" and the hope for removal from office does nothing but hurt this Republic. Ever since the 2000 election the Left has looked for ways to discredit and weaken this administration. I ask this question. What crime has been committed? The burden of proof is on the accusers. This is just as bad as the Right and what was done when Clinton was in office. This does nothing but weaken our country. Just because you don't like an elected offical does not mean we should resort to extraordinary means to remove them. Call it the "California Effect". Ever since they removed their governor, (Gray Davis) even though they had just elected him, beause they didn't like the way he was handling the budget.

Shiela Hudson   January 7th, 2008 10:15 am ET

I personallly do not believe that Bush won either election. I believe this was a conspiracy to place him in office. 911 simply played into his plans. The intelligent people in America, know that Iraq was not involved in any terrorist attack against the USA. They also know that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. The fact that they African-American males were forced to fight in a country where capital punishment was lynching, is an total insult to all African-Americans with a independent mind. Bush-Cheney administration betrayed and lied to the American people. Which is treason. They have murdered more innocent Iraqi people, women, children, etc. than we want to count. The number of brain damage and mentally unstable will amount to a form of Genocide. The fact that they will never have to answer for their action, give me very little confidence in my country constitution and as for the the rules of the Geneva Convention, well they spit on that. The bible says "you reap what you sow". They will answer to GOD. He can't be bought. Don't hide behind the troop, these misguided young men, don't hide behind the concept of patriotism. What Bush-Cheny did has nothing to with either. This is greed, arrogance, imperialism, and racism at is worst.

Marie   January 7th, 2008 10:14 am ET

Laws have been broken and NO ONE should be above the law. Late or not, the law must be upheld and justice served.

As for some of the comments posted all that can be said is: How sad and a perfect example of how we got into such a mess in this country.

Instead of looking at the facts and evidence concerning this subject, the arrogant, willfully uninformed, intolerant, and small-minded public verbally attacks the character and family of the person with whom they disagree.

We as Americans must NOT be uninformed during the coming election. We must not allow orchestrated fear and twisted information to decide the outcome of the presidential election. We must not rely on any one network or news source for the truth – do research, be informed, otherwise we’ll be abetting and empowering the next tyrant.

Mike   January 7th, 2008 10:13 am ET

These two will go down in history as brave men who stood up for freedom. Their legecy will be that they are not cowards. Not like the wimps we have in congress at this time. Democrats = cowards.

Jay, Raleigh, NC   January 7th, 2008 10:12 am ET

There are some pretty amusing posts by the right-wingers on this thread. To summarize some of their sentiments:

- George McGovern, a b-24 fighter pilot who flew 35 missions in WWII is a traitor and a hippie.
- The fact that so many people on this board cannot stand Bush is evidence of CNN.com’s liberal media bias.
- Anyone who disagrees with anything the U.S. government has done since 9/11 is a ‘60s radical.

I hope plenty of moderates are reading these paranoid, delusional right-wing rants. November can’t get here fast enough.

American Youth   January 7th, 2008 10:11 am ET

I totally agree with McGovern, however it is far too late. This country has been reduced from a model powerhouse to a laughing stock because of these morons. The said part is its not just those two but the idiots who support them.

ProudCitizen   January 7th, 2008 10:11 am ET

I can't believe the Bush supporters that have nothing better to say other than calling McGovern stupid and crazy. Can any of these people actually articulate a real argument above the 3rd grade name calling? Perhaps this shows the intelligence level of the Bush supporters.

Terry, El Paso, TX   January 7th, 2008 10:10 am ET

Back in '72, McGovern warned us that the Nixon administration was corrupt and was up to some serious skullduggery. Nixon was elected in a landslide. Regardless of what you think of his politics, his integrity is unquestionable. Personally, I don't want to start impeaching every president who is of a different political party than the majority of Congress.

Republicans in the nineties used the impeachment clause simply as a political ploy with no justification except Clinton's adulterous sex-play. Many of Clinton's Republican accusers probably discussed the impeachment proceedings with their own mistresses.

We've endured so much for so long from this absolutely incompetent administration that a few more months won't kill us.

As for all of you who love to ridicule McGovern and other "socialists" I have two comments:

1. You have no idea what socialism, communism, liberalism, and conservatism are. Read a book or buy some encyclopedias or something.

2. You were the same folks who were telling us four and eight years ago that Bush/Cheney were giants among men, with the hearts, brains, and guts to rescue America from all of its problems. Do you imagine that we're going to believe you now after you led us down the garden path twice already?

George   January 7th, 2008 10:09 am ET

LOL!!

McGovern is as close to a traitor to this country there is!
how anyone can even print what he says is beyond belief! why cant he and Carter, who the American people told to go away by their lopsided losses, just shut up!

Bush and Cheney are great Americans! they protect us from terrorists and the enemies of this country, like the Left who are here!

Long live Bush! The left still cant accept the fact they are losers!

an impeachment proceding would have Clinton and Kerry as Defense witnesses for all of their anti-Iraq statements! LOL

the left is sooooo nuts!

Steve   January 7th, 2008 10:09 am ET

Do any of these things sound familiar?

He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
• For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
• For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
• For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:
• For imposing taxes on us without our consent:
• For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
• For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses.

For some they do ring clear. We went to war against another tyrant for these actions to gain our independence. How can we now stand by idly while this happens to our fellow humans?

Dave   January 7th, 2008 10:09 am ET

The main reason for impeachment is to prevent future presidents from having a prescient in the wholesale trampling of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights by executive authority under the alledged "Patriot Act". The primary responsibility of the President of the United States is to uphold and protect the US Consitituion and the Bill of Rights against domestic enemies and if you don't think that facisism can't happen here your wrong. Impeachment would reestablish the balance of power between executive, legislative and judicial branches of the federal government and is needed before Bush/Cheney leave office.

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Robert S.   January 7th, 2008 10:09 am ET

During the time of President Nixon- Watergate, Former George McGovern did covered up ad lies about Pres. Nixon and save his name and life and run to Russia and cried and comfort from Russia's First Secy that time and stayed with there for two weeks !!. That time at Demo. Convention at Watergate Hotel at Miami , Fla. Russia's First Secy was ready delivery $ 25,000,000 to help G. Mcgovern to win the President race for Democrat !!, delivery through to President Castro, Cuba to Watergate. Mc Govern should apolizied to President Nixon and his people of McGovern !!. He should be "unfaithful" history to America people !!. Do not make another mistake to impeach President Bush or Cheney from McGovern, Mc Govern is the one owe apolizie to every America people ever since what he had done by made greatest mistake to impeached against Pres. Nixon !!!!. Our great HERO goes to Pres Nixon history. Some body inside Democrats knew it by now.

Can't stand it   January 7th, 2008 10:07 am ET

I cannot believe that I am even wasting my time commenting on an idiot report such as this. Why won't the media concentrate on something worthwhile versus this waste of hot air.

Wake up and smell the roses America. Do something that is good for once rather than throw angry verbage between idiots on both sides.

god help us.

bill   January 7th, 2008 10:05 am ET

"I really loved Joe Biden's stopgap threat to the Bush administration: If you lay a finger on Iran, I'm going to impeach your sorry asses."

Do you suppose Biden actually said that, or did he plagiarize it from someone else?

Jerry   January 7th, 2008 10:05 am ET

Talk, talk, talk, . . . . . .

It will never happen. The great decider is a favorite among the great dumb of America who apparently just keep getting dumber. Most Americans have no concept of what the constitutionmeant should mean before both Bush and Cheney usurped the amendments, bypassed the bill of rights, and simply ignored the instrument our country should live by. While it is true that the president usually picks friends and cronies for his staff it is NOT true that he and Cheney should enrich thier friends from the office. Makes me wish I worked for Haliburton!
I had a chuckle when Bush touted the fact? that he is a Christian and then lied, lied, lied . . . about everything? I personally think Christianity is a great idea, whenever people like Bush and Cheney start it.

Bo   January 7th, 2008 10:05 am ET

McGovern says “…barbaric policies…”

What about?…Twin Towers, the Pentagon, people getting their heads sliced off on prime time TV, unnecessary mass suicide bombings, also the nation’s cities being constantly threatened, etc….

Impeachment at this time is NOT WORTH IT. TIME TO GO FORWARD.

Chris   January 7th, 2008 10:04 am ET

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t.smith   January 7th, 2008 10:04 am ET

McGovern was a loser thirty years ago…still a loser….typical Democrat….always throwing mud….will they…will politicians in general ever learn…the average american is disgusted with all this mud slinging…grow up folks….your mud is from the pig pen.

Thomas, Baton Rouge, LA   January 7th, 2008 10:03 am ET

Never happen, but it should.

Jolynn   January 7th, 2008 10:02 am ET

I agree whole-heartedly with McGovern on this. I believe Bush should have been impeached shortly after him being voted into office for another term. He has reduced the United States to such a low I am really embarrassed to say that I am a born and raised U.S. citizen! Out with Bush, in with a DEMOCRAT! As the saying goes, "I'm too poor to vote republican!" It seems that almost everytime a republican is in office, they run the U.S. into the ground and then a democrat has to come in and clean up all the republican's mess. Let's get Bush out of office asap!

J.Wilcox   January 7th, 2008 10:01 am ET

I fail to see the significance of this loosers comments. Perhaps he should join up with Carter and start a movement. This country should not be running a world wide popularity contest. The Governments job is to protect its current citizens and future generations regardless of world opinion.

Joyce Mosier   January 7th, 2008 10:00 am ET

Impeach Bush and Cheney? I think they should be tried for treason. They did everything humanly possible to destroy this nation at its very core.

JC, Topeka, Kansas   January 7th, 2008 9:59 am ET

Actually, it's to late to impeach either Bush or Cheney let alone both of them. Even it the US House of Representatives actually decided to do it'd Constituitional duty and impeach either of these gentleman. The US Senate would never have enogh time to hold an impeachment trial prior to their leaving office. And I think it is safe to say, neither would see fit to resign, facing impeachment for the good of the nation.

Congress impeached Nixon, because Nixon tried to coverup something that he was not even personally involved in, nor did he have personal knowledge of at the time of occurance.

Congress impeached Clinton, because Clinton attempted to not admit he had an extramartial affair. Something that if you are in any way familiar with the antics of American Presidents is not unheard of in American history nor until now something that decried public attention.

Congress has failed to impeach either Bush or Cheney, despite the numerous violations of the United States Consitution they have been involved in, the violations of Treaties, international laws, the selective enforcement of federal laws and in other circumstances the out and out blatant disregard to federal laws. They have lied to Congress, the America people and represented information in a matter as to support their personnal adgenda's regardless as to the actual facts. They have committed more impeachable actions than the past 10 administrations combined.

Curretly, the only thing that impeachment would achieve is giving back to the American people a government that was capable of maintaining the checks and balances that our founding fathers put into place.

Jacksonville, FL   January 7th, 2008 9:59 am ET

Jen –

Maybe Pelosi wouldn't be a good President, maybe she would, but we'd only have to put up with her one way or another for about 6-8 months. And at least the Democrats seem to at least listen to the pulse of the nation. Bush ignores it completely, unless you have at least $150 Million in the bank.

Drew Hols   January 7th, 2008 9:58 am ET

I live in New Orleans. Bush's actions following the storm should not only be impeachable but criminal.People lost their lives here due to poor preparation and ignorance by his top level management("Heckava job Brownie"). He should answer for that. It's still a mess down here. His mishandling of the war (whether one agrees or not with it's justification) also cost lives and misery. He stole an election,gave huge no-bid contracts to Haliburton, allowed security firms like Blackwater USA to operate unfettered. sabotaged the EPA, and ridiculed Global Warming. It goes on and on.G.M. gives a reasoned voice in response to the insult of the Bush/Cheney admin.

J.   January 7th, 2008 9:58 am ET

This guy is nuts. Lying to the America people is not a crime against the Constitution. Starting a war with bad information is not a crime and until the Courts decide if the wire tapping is a crime, they broke no US laws. Holding people in Cuba, again is not a crime, they are not US citizens. Again, until the courts rule no laws have been broken. If they rule against the Administration and he still does it, then yes he broke laws, but until they can prove it, it is not going to happen.

Besides what does it matter, it would take months to impeach him and they he would have to go before the Senate for trial before he could be removed from office. There is no time for this, he is a lame duck. I only hope the next present is not as stupid.

scott   January 7th, 2008 9:58 am ET

Good morning everyone.

I guess most of you are all to young to rmember why George McGovern wasn't
elected into office ??

He and his group were full of lies and misdoings. He was so "dirty" his own party refussed to get behind him.

This is the pot calling the kettle black….do your own research for those on this sight that are to young to remember…………

Dan   January 7th, 2008 9:58 am ET

I can honestly say that Bush didn't receive my vote. There are numerous republicans who believe Bush is doing a good job, to me that is very disturbing.You elect and idiot and he is going to act like and idiot.Lets don't forget about the rest of the republicans in congress who stood by there leader and ran our country down. The fact that bush and Cheney are still in office tells you something about whats going on in Washington.

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 9:58 am ET

To John B in Dallas Texas regarding your coment – I don't care what our "image" is to the rest of the world. The rest of the world has never liked America, anyway.

This is why Bush has gotten away with so much, and attitudes like yours are the reason the rest of the world do not like us.

I have lived outside of the US for 7 years, in a Muslim country, also traveling frequently around Europe for my work. I openly and freely say I am American and a Christian. I can instantly think of 50 Muslim people I know that would give their life yo defend me, and I am loved by all people I meet and do business with, Arab and Europen.

People around the world love Americans, but they don't like Bush or American's like you, and neither do I !!!!!!

That's All!

Crawford, TX   January 7th, 2008 9:55 am ET

Whether you think McGovern is just saying what most people in this country feel, or if you think he's an irrelevant relic of a bygone era, one thing is undeniable by anyone with a brainstem.

Bush and Cheney HAVE broken numerous laws. They have bullied unconstitutional laws thru the legislature, and at every turn have done whatever they can to halt any programs to make this country better within our own borders (and I'm not talking about "border security") I'm talking about education, social security, health care reform (whether you think socialized medicine is the answer or not, there is no dispute the system is broken).

Let's look at the facts:

NCLB – Broken

Valerie Plame – Outed by a member of this administration – no real action taken

The surplus at the beginning of Bush's administration has been turned into a record deficit that even Reagan would have thought was screwed up.

The credibility of the United States has been ruined around the globe.

Thousands dead in a war that has nothing to do with "Keeping America Safe" and the War on Terror. Before we invaded, there was no Al Quaeda in Iraq. In fact, Saddam Hussein considered Osama binLaden an enemy, not an ally.

No real effort has been put into trying to locate Osama binLaden in several years. We found Saddam in a matter of weeks. How is it that bin Laden has eluded "the most powerful country in the world"?

NUMEROUS fourth amendment violations (warrantless wiretapping). FISA provides for retroative warrants, but Bush still refused to follow the law.

Need I say more?

Shiela Hudson   January 7th, 2008 9:53 am ET

Amen, Amen and Amen again.

Robert McPhee   January 7th, 2008 9:53 am ET

Circumstamces tell me that the 9-11 attack was set up somehow between
the admnistration and the Saudi Arabian Government. It happened just
a few months after they took over the office. They have always been good
friends in the oil business. Is it not strange that all but one of the terrorist
in that attack came frim Saudi Arabia ?

This was done just for the purpose of gathering reasons for invading
Iraq, not for the sake of democrocy but to gain control over the oil out put
in that country. That is why Halburton got the blank check for theur work.
Dick Cheney helped Harburton in the first Gulf war and then became CEO
of the company prior to his term as Vice President. He call all of the shots
through George Bush and never anything in writing. He stated recently
in Lansing Michigan that If you do not put anythin in writing then it cannot come back to get you in trouble.

He knew all of the angles and how to cover his tracks.

Robert D. McPhee

Mike   January 7th, 2008 9:53 am ET

Sign me up! You can all say how bad it would be for the country, but just IMAGINE. 1 more year of Bush… This man needs to go.

james , Dallas Texas   January 7th, 2008 9:53 am ET

to all of you who say our country was loved and respected prior to bush , i say sept .11 , they loved us so much they killed almost 4000 of us , we were so respected they flew planes into our buildings houseing your families and mine , but they respected us in the morning , wake up people , Bush is the only reason more civilians have not died , our military dies for our civilians and are proud to do so , to say anything else is a slap in the face to the men and women fighting to keep your family safe, if you dont like bush fine you shouldn't have elected him twice , you had a chance to vote remember he was not appointed , keep in mind in this war so called failure , we have not lost a single life to terror on American soil since 9-11 , less soilders have died in the last 5 years of war than civilians who died 9-11 , we stopped a brutal dictator who was harboring terror, commiting genocide, torture,rape, chemical warfare on his own people, true it escalated but i'm sure your not going to blame Bush for the actions of radical islam, so we fight them there instead of hear where your children can be blown up on the school bus this morning like in iraq , all this crying for peace, love, impeachment, bla-bla reminds me of another group of libirals from the 60's and 70's we called them hippies, they smoked pot,tripped acid and called for the impeachment of JFK remember them , make love not war !! i remember they spit on our returning troops , what you liberals do now is the exact same thing so support our troops,,our president ,fight terror, stay strong , so what if arabs hate us , as long as they fear us !!!!!!!!

Bill   January 7th, 2008 9:52 am ET

Should have gotten rid of these fools years ago. The real shame is that Congress didn't stop the invasion of Iraq back in 2003. Using the American military machine to settle a personal score w Hussein should NEVER have happened. If we had gone into Afghanistan w shock and awe, we probably would have taken out Osama and most of his pals. Instead, Bush couldn't spare the resources due to his planned invasion of Iraq, and we went int Afghanistan w a rinky-dink force. The soldiers did a great job, but they lacked the manpower to really take care of business. Now, Afghanistan is a mess, and the Taliban is resurgent, and we never got Osama, or Mullah Omar. Terrific. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should all be tried for Treason.

timothy allen trouble   January 7th, 2008 9:51 am ET

I think McGovern is right on. If the president and vice president are impeached the world may once again respect the United States. Everything he said seems to be true.

walter fink   January 7th, 2008 9:51 am ET

I agree with McGovern. How can we get our representatives in government to proceed with these actions? Let's get the people's voices heard and acted upon. Do something.

Bob, Chicago, IL   January 7th, 2008 9:47 am ET

It is a huge mistake for Dems to go this direction. Concentrate on making sure we elect the right candidate rather then raise this issue for the GOP and FOX NOTNEWS to rally around. After they leave office there will be plenty of time to investigate and bring charges if any are warranted. Unless of course Bush blanket pardon’s the whole administration.

Dave M   January 7th, 2008 9:47 am ET

I think it's troubling that these so called "millions of Americans" believe this impeachment nonsense. If there's your so called millions, why wasn't Bush defeated at the polls? I find the posts of these impeachment people to be low in intelligence. What is really going to happen is when you elect a true idiot, Barak Hussein Obama, and then when you go to the shopping mall, you get your legs blown off in a terrorist attack, you'll wish Bush and Cheney were still there to protect you.

Don't think it can't or won't happen. Be carefull what you wish for.

Tom   January 7th, 2008 9:47 am ET

Finally, it is long past due. These two "leaders" of ours have seriously tarnished the American image and, in my opinion, have let our country fall from its former greatness. Bush and Cheney managed to spend our money on war, a bad war at that, and neglected our education, our healthcare, and our economy. Its time for them go, we shouldn't have to wait for the next election for that to happen.

Tom   January 7th, 2008 9:46 am ET

Bryan said:

"Thomas Jefferson once stated that the elected official that speak out about the troops and try to undermine them in time of war was a treasonous act. "

I can't find any quote from Jeferson that makes that claim, you want to enlighten the readers and I with the actual quote?

Here are two that I did find…

"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be. "

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. "

The real story here will be what Nancy and Harry say about McGoven's comments.

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 9:46 am ET

I think it is noy only the congress, senate, nor the republicans or democrats, but also the people. You and me!

How many people have put pressure on their congressman to start the impeachment process and asked for an investigation into many things you want answers for?

Me myself have written to several congressmen and senators demanding the president is impeached. and for investigations into many things people around the world are questioning. The only one who responded is Hillary Clinton, and I heard that she actually reads her mail and considers the views and ideas of people who write to her. Seems to be true, because she responded to me.

The squeaky wheel gets oiled, so if the congress, senate, democrats or republicans or whoever are not acting, and have failed, how many people here on this blog have written to their congressmen or started putting pressure on them?

And if you want someone in office that is not afraid to stand up and take action, then don't look to Obama. He is nothing but a good motivational speaker, and only good for talk. If you want a candidate who is not afraid to take action and will listen to your views, then look to their senate records regarding speeches and voting records.

But I am doing my part from here by writing to congress and the senate.

Roger   January 7th, 2008 9:44 am ET

I will NEVER vote Republican again.

My income has suffered, my business has suffered, and my family has suffered.

My elder parents are now suffering thanks to their new and 'improved' Medicare. The only things the new Medicare did was put money into the pockets of companies, and provide piss poor service.

Broy   January 7th, 2008 9:44 am ET

The Iowa caucuses and most likely the NH primary are a complete reflection of how this country feels about Bush and Cheney. The American people want fresh faces, not corrupted by the political machine in Washington. All they (Bush/Cheney) care about is lining their pockets with money from political interest groups. Bush is so despised that his negativity may have even crossed party lines and thus Hilary Clinton is being affected in the polls. People just don't believe in politicians who have been in Washington for this long. They have been corrupted and are basically worthless to the real interests if the American people. The most obvious example is the auto industry, already in shambles. Does anyone out there think that more fuel efficient vehicles are not already in existence?? But that spells trouble for the oil companies who line W's pockets – so he is obviously more concerned about sprucing up his Texas ranch than helping to save the world's environment from its #1 polluter – the United States. That in itself is a crime and unfortuantely I don't see any long time politician who has been exposed to these powerful lobby groups, making any major changes. Thus – its time for new blood in Washington. Personally, I'm not sure if it should be a Republican or Democrat…just new blood and fresh faces!

Anonymous   January 7th, 2008 9:44 am ET

YES to impeachment!!!!!!!

Tim   January 7th, 2008 9:43 am ET

I've grown to be less supportive of the Bush administration …. but come on, we should care with what George McGovern thinks because of what?

KWJ   January 7th, 2008 9:42 am ET

Poor old George seems to have a short term memory problem. The accusations of lies, etc, are false and mean spirited. Perhaps he should offer actual examples (but then he doesn't because they simply don't exist). It's getting a little tiring hearing the same old lies about Bush. I think George is just bitter about losing so hugely years ago.

Brenda Gillespie   January 7th, 2008 9:42 am ET

McGovern, you are on to something that I have been saying since the beginning. Time to reve it up and charge Bush and his entire cabinet with CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. HE IS A MURDERER. WE LOOK LIKE FOOLS BEFORE ALL OF OUR ALLIES AND EVERYTIME SOME COUNTRY DON'T JUMP TO HIS WHIMES HE'S DEGRADING THEM BEFORE THE WORLD. CALLING CHINA, COMMUNIST, CALL FRANCE, ANY MERIAD OF NAMES.

We have lost our respect and integrity around the world, in case Slavery or Racism, or Poverty and Medical Insurance fiascos in America didn't do it.

To even add insult to Injury you got at 38% homelesse rate in St. Louis, MO and 28% are our Military.

Sara   January 7th, 2008 9:41 am ET

Jail Hillary Clinton

Tom Wittmann   January 7th, 2008 9:40 am ET

Thi guy should be ignored. Bot the Bush haters love him

Maestroh   January 7th, 2008 9:40 am ET

It is amusing to me how those who less than a decade ago were not really sure what constituted and impeachable offense have suddenly decided they know exactly what it is – they just can't state it with any specificity. McGovern's claim that Bush and Cheney, " have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time" is an amusing notion of what constitutes an impeachable offense. What laws have they transgressed? Better yet, since when is lying to the American people time after time an impeachable offense? If that's the case, then isn't every President who ever broke a promise guilty?

McGovern is nothing but a bitter old man who still thinks the only reason he lost to Nixon was Watergate; if anything, Watergate cut down Nixon's margin of victory.

ERIN H   January 7th, 2008 9:39 am ET

YESSS!!!

wad   January 7th, 2008 9:38 am ET

POLITICAL STRATEGIES

i follow the primary in iowa and new hampshire, all i can say is that the republican voters are cheaters. they pretend to be indepedant and vote for Obama because they think it's going to be easier for the republican party to win the general elections in january 09 is Obama wins the primary for the democratic party. All of them Clinton would be a strong rival for them and that's why the republican now are trying to push Obama toward winning the primary.

they are cheaters

Kris in AL   January 7th, 2008 9:38 am ET

Who doesn't think the Iraq invasion/occupation was poorly justified, planned and executed. OK…. it was botched! BUT…. we can't just walk out and create a genocide. Clinton went into Bosnia to prevent further genocide. We walked out on SE Asia and Cambodia created a genocide which won an Oscar. Only the Democrats could look past there self proclaimed human/women's rights interests in exchange for a political gain (Bush loses the Iraq war).

Post 911, is this country did not learn that we have to be premptive in finding and killing the terrorists, then we have learned nothing. I for one want my phone, mail, email, travel, banking, etc etc etc monitored LOOKING OUT FOR TERRORIST ACTIVITY.

Please Federal, State, County, Local governments protect my family from the people who want to fly them into skyscrapers turning them into flaming bits of human flesh!!!

Get a grip liberal Democrats. Take your legislative frustration out in some other form. You are so fixated on Bush & Cheney, your foaming at the mouth (just like you accused the Republicans of when they were fixated with Dick Clinton.)

Louisa Miller   January 7th, 2008 9:38 am ET

I know numerous people that would vote for the impeachment of the president and the vice president. I believe that Bush is a murderer and he knows exactly what he is doing. He isn't sending his kids over there to be killed is he?

Richard Schladen   January 7th, 2008 9:37 am ET

I certainly agree with this honorable man. This not a political item. This is about morals and national security. These men are traitors.

Stay the course   January 7th, 2008 9:37 am ET

Bush and Cheney are honorable men. Men who stand by their word. America is not ONLY hated around the world America is LOVED around the world as well.

Liberation of Iraq was the right thing. Not expecting terrorists to infiltrate the peaceful communities in Iraq to stage attcks against Soldiers was a mistake. In response the surge was the right thing.

In my opinion ANY method needed to get information from terrorists regarding attacks against Americans and any other human beings should not only be authorized, but encouraged. It's unbelievable that people can stand back after an atttack and wonder how the intelligence community didn't know it was going to happen. At the same time when the intelligence community uses "creativity" to get information which leads to the prevention of an attack, then those same people will say "that is hurtful to them".

The only assurance remaining when Bush and Cheney leave office (honorably) in 2008 is my hope that the American people will put a team in office that will have a similar thought process. Like Hillary and Obama…

… that's some reverse psychology:)

Joe   January 7th, 2008 9:37 am ET

it is, in fact, sad that it takes some politicians almost 8 years to figure out that W and Dick are disgrace to the humanity, and not only a shame to the american people. i agree with the previous comment – impeachment is not enough. these men should face the adequate punishment for the crimes they've committed.

Nat, Brooklyn, NY   January 7th, 2008 9:36 am ET

825 comments and almost all of them (except those, which are anti -McGovern) pro-impeachment. We have to do it and ASAP, otherwise these war criminals would be retiring with the benefits and too much money to handle and no responsibility for what they had done to the world.

Joe Kacmarynski   January 7th, 2008 9:36 am ET

George McGovern is just another example of a clueless liberal. How America is viewed in the eyes of the rest of the world is irrelevant when compared to the dangers the entire world faces from murderous islamic extremists. His attitudes have always bordered on and possibly crossed the line of treason.

Arkay, MI   January 7th, 2008 9:35 am ET

Ross wrote on January 7, 2008 8:43 am ET
"I Think Cheney should run for president, He would beat the rest of the WIMPS running"

I think you need to read up more on Cheney. He has been elected ONLY ONCE in his life (for a congressional seat from Wyoming early in his life). He has been appointed to all other positions he has held since. He knows very well that he cannot win which is why he is not running. He is the WIMP !

Curtis   January 7th, 2008 9:34 am ET

It's about time. I agree with the whole "superficial partisanship" idea. The republicans need to take their blinders off and see what their leaders are really up to. The democrats need to discover their "intestinal fortitude" and stand up to this administration. It seems that all too often in politics, people are too concerned with the near future (their immediate political careers) and ignore the big picture. If we don't send a message to politicians in general that the kind of behavior that the Bush administration has been getting away with under the guise of protecting Americans from terrorists is wrong, things will continue on their downward spiral toward dictatorship and Big Brother being over everyone's shoulder.

Once the U.S. is done with them, let's turn them over to the international war crimes tribunal. I'm sure that the rest of the world would like to see justice served too.

Joanne   January 7th, 2008 9:34 am ET

George is so right !! What has happened to America? When did everyone become so afraid of demanding that our leaders follow the rules? When everything became about power and money, instead of right or wrong. When the rich decided everything for everybody. It has become a money war and those that don't have the cash, don't have the power.

Ken   January 7th, 2008 9:32 am ET

When someone of the stature and statesmanship of Senator McGovern stands up and selflessly points out what is clearly obvious to the rest of the world–action is mandatory. Bravo Senator.
If treason by the executive branch weren't enough, a much more pressing question exists. What happened to all of the checks and balances that supposedly exist to prevent disproportionate and unacceptable conditions from occurring?
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Kevin C   January 7th, 2008 9:32 am ET

The king of liberals speaks out! He and Jimmy Carter are so irrelevant most people don't even know who they are. Let the people speak through elections, they will do that soon anyway.

E. C., Houston, Texas   January 7th, 2008 9:32 am ET

To all of YOU who criticize and weigh in on McGovern's ridiculous comments and charges against President Bush: YOU are the very citizens President Bush pledged to lead and protect against further terrorism to maintain YOUR FREEDOM. He has been true to his word, has not faltered one time in his decision, and this country has remained safe and free. Whether you accept his success or not, YOU have been part of his responsibility. Although you are in no way patriot citizens who support their President in good times and bad, you have reaped the benefits of this country's efforts to maintain peace and establish Democracy throughout the Mideast. Only good and positive benefits will come from President Bush's efforts, for he has not flinched at the challenge. YOU, who criticize the President of this Nation most harshly, should spend more time reading, learning, reflecting and understanding history than writing unkind, untrue, and hateful comments about the very man who has kept you safe and free since 9/11. When President Bush laid his hand on The Bible and chose to protect this country and abide by the Constitution, perhaps he should have made his pledge ONLY to those persons who pledged to stand and support him. Where would you hatefilled commentators be at this point, if this were so? Only History will dictate President Bush's success or failure, and he will surely be known as one of the Greatest Presidents of this century. Too bad that YOU do not understand world affairs as exist or what his efforts will produce for future generations of Americans, as well as for foreign governments abroad. President Bush is a brilliant man, as seen through his accomplishments, and YOU have only shown to the World your personal level of ignorance in your comments, to which YOU proudly sign your name.

Kevin H   January 7th, 2008 9:31 am ET

I also find it amazing that there are idiots in this country that still support Bush and think he is right? I thought Bush was the country's biggest moron, but after reading these comments, I find there are bigger morons, the ones who blindly follow him.

Jim Kelleher   January 7th, 2008 9:31 am ET

As impossible as this seems, George McGovern is even more off-base than he was in 1972 when the Ameican people rejected his politics in record-breaking numbers. His opinions are inconsequential.

ddeighton Baltimore, MD   January 7th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Impeach Bush and Cheney now and send a message to the new Presidential candidates that the American people are fed up with crooked elitist politics. Let us show that "we the people" are taking back the direction of America. Clinton, Obama and Edwards all talk about "change" during this election. Well this will demonstrate that we want and EXPECT great change and that if they do not do right by the nation, then the people will act. No more of this pull a 4-8 year term, open our borders to whomever, sell military contracts to your friends, invade a country sacrificing the lives of so many young Americans and foreign civilians, run a country so poorly that thousands of Americans are foreclosing on their own American dream, cannot afford to buy gas or heat their homes. Under George Bush's leadership, America has been in an abusive relationship, and like in an abused home, we're afraid to get out. Well let today be the day we say no more. Republicans, Democrats and Independents UNITE! We won't take it anymore and we won't take it from the new president either. Do right by the people or your out!

Just wait   January 7th, 2008 9:29 am ET

It will be a great day when Bush is out of office and Al Qaida starts attacking American interests around the globe again, much like they did for the ten years prior to 911. Then because they are ignored they will continually get worse until they pull off another 911 or probably worse, something that crushes our economy and effects ever single American. It amazing nothing has happened since the start of this ugly war but you cannot deny the fact that it hasn't and is most certainly because of the war. So just wait until the days that this war is all over and you can feel safe at home with your family knowing this tyrant is out of office, that is what you should fear the most, because that's when an attack is most likely.

Steven Healey   January 7th, 2008 9:29 am ET

It's high time more of our Nations retired leaders stand up for our Republic and call on our Congressional leaders to do their Constitutional duty, unfortunately I believe it's very likely that an investigation would bring the back door politics to light and implicate themselves as co-conspirators against our rule of law, thus impeaching themsleves. There's no other GOOD reason as too why they continually refuse to start an investigation. My long standing Senator and newly elected Congressman will not receive my upcoming vote. They are not being vocal enough, so they're not doing their job, time for them to leave.

Donna   January 7th, 2008 9:29 am ET

when congress and the senate get past rational comments should they not be retired? I believe 80 is a bit old for any office

Ranger, Degraff OH   January 7th, 2008 9:28 am ET

>>BUSH 43 IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE TO COVER HIS MISTAKES!
WE ARE A GREAT COUNTRY! WHY CAN'T WE AGREE TO STOP BUSH AND
….SHOW THE WORLD OUR ABILITY TO DO WHATS RIGHT!

BUSH WILL NEVER ADMIT HIS MISTAKES..MOST KILLERS DON'T!….WE WILL
HAVE TO "INCARCERATE" HIM AND ADMIT ..WE MADE THE MISTAKE OF

PLACING HIM INTO OFFICE!

WE OWE IT TO THE INNOCENT TO STOP THE KILLING …!!

Disgusted Army Vet > who laid is life on the line …for what ?

……. Bush is destroying everything we VETS sacrificed for!!

Bo   January 7th, 2008 9:28 am ET

Not worth it… Time to go forward.

Peggy   January 7th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Here's a quick question for all those who don't want to see Bush and company impeached:

Given what Bush and company have done, their violations, their lies, their stripping of civil liberties, their disregarding the Constitution — please explain why you believe they shouldn't be impeached and please give reasons why you think that what they've done isn't criminal, impeachable and treasonous.

Jon Allegrezza   January 7th, 2008 9:26 am ET

Impeachment would show the world we're not in complete lockstep with whatever these war criminals do and say. Remember, they represent US, the people, because we "elected" (ha ha!) them, so whatever they do, the rest of the world thinks the American people give it two thumbs up, then go back to more important things like studying American Idol contestants with excruciating detail.

And to those who pump out the "there hasn't been another 9/11″ form letters: dont you find that odd, because all the other presidents haven't had a 9/11 PERIOD, let alone "another", so from a techical standpoint, that gives Bush the worst homeland security record….we're supposed to be thankful that he didn't trip up AGAIN?? And what if, God forbid, there is another terror attack of 9/11 proportions on America under Bush's watch? Would you call for impeachment then, since your hero failed at the only thing you crow about, or would there have to be a "third" or "fourth" time? I bet it would only take one (or even talk of one) if there was a Democrat in office…

Tom   January 7th, 2008 9:25 am ET

I'm amazed that CNN would even report such non-sensical rhetoric. This makes me think of a quote:

"He piled upon the whale’s white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart’s shell upon it." – Moby Dick

Get over it already. If they had truly broken the law, they would've been impeached by now. The problem is, however questionable their actions were, they were still within the law.

I guess it's easier to be destructive than constructive, though.

Jeff - Jacksonville FL   January 7th, 2008 9:24 am ET

If they are impeached, which they absolutely should be. PLEASE, for the love of God and this country, impeach Cheney FIRST! I couldn't stand the thought of that man being the President for even a minute if Bush was removed from office.

Cyndi Waters   January 7th, 2008 9:24 am ET

I agree with McGovern! Bush and Cheney SHOULD be impeached! In fact, they should have been impeached years ago for their crimes! Too bad we don't have a Congress that would actually do what is morally and legally right in this instance!

Alex Chicago   January 7th, 2008 9:24 am ET

Yea this man sounds like a man of reason??????????????????????Give me a break this idiot is just as naive and ignorant today as he was 30yrs ago. Sorry mental midget BUSHS policies are working and you only sound like a bitter man with sour grapes. Please tell me what is so tragic with Bush? What rights has he taken away from you? Are you protected ? Really I know it is hard for you liberal morons to think and actually be realistic but please try to do it. Bottom line is you dont like Bush cause he has beaten you in every single way on every single issue…….LIBERALS, BUSH OWNS YOU………

Kevin H   January 7th, 2008 9:23 am ET

Well said, and it's about time. These two war criminals are responsible for getting us into an unneccessary war, ruining the economy that President Clinton had made great and ruining our country's reputation in the world. When Saudi's attacked the US on 9/11, who does moronica Bush go after? Iraq. That makes sense.

He has spent this country into a hole, when President Clinton had balanced the budget, but now in the last year of his term he want to holler fiscal responsiblity. What about all that money going into a hole in Iraq? When our own children are denyed health care?

He is such a moron and an idiot. He has violated the constitution, wadded it up and thrown it away and Darth Cheney is right there with him. These two should be executed.

Rocky   January 7th, 2008 9:23 am ET

Explains why he didn't make it for president back in '72. Some old politicians should learn when to shut up…its his time.

Mike Whitehurst   January 7th, 2008 9:22 am ET

I find it amazing it has taken this long for ANY politician to says these things. McGovern is correct. You wouldn't keep any personal friend around if they had done to you what Bush and Cheney have done to this country. Anyone out there have a friend they stay close to when they lie to you and get you involved in fights then run away?

Rick   January 7th, 2008 9:22 am ET

McGovern's position fails to take into consideration that we are under attack by Islamic Fundamentalist entrenched throughout the Middle East and that Iraq is but a battlefront in the global war on terrorism.

The extremist we are killing their today would otherwise be bombing our Embassies, attacking our subways, or crashing more planes into our homeland.

I would much rather have our well armed troupes killing them where they live than our ill equipped polices departments trying to track them down after they have committed some heinous an cowardly act of terrorism.

William, Atlanta   January 7th, 2008 9:22 am ET

Certainly, McGovern is right, but unless the Congress can push an impeachment and removal proceeding through in less than a week, it would be an utter waste of time at this juncture. The damage has been done and the previous Republican-controlled Congress was complicit in the crimes of the bush administration. Rather, let's get these thugs out of office first and then thoroughly and openly investigate their crimes. Those found guilty should be given the maximum time in jail. Those found guilty of war and international crimes should be handed over to the World Court for prosecution. The President and Vice Preseident should not be immune from criminal prosecution – they cannot be allowed to operate outside the law, since it sets a dangerous precedent.

Chuck Auth   January 7th, 2008 9:20 am ET

Just as George McGovern was right about Vietnam so also is he right about impeaching those two traitorous criminals.

John R   January 7th, 2008 9:19 am ET

This needs to happen. Impeach both of them ASAP.

tom   January 7th, 2008 9:19 am ET

I disagree with most everything that Bush/Cheney has done over the last eight years. Not only did they get us into a war that was completely unnecessary, they prosecuted the war ineptly and may have caused many more lives (mostly Iraqi) to be lost than necessary. They have needlessly and carelessly antagonized a large part of the world. They have also acted questionably – in a constitutional sense- in how they have pursued the "war on terror."

That being said, I get concerned with cries for impeachment on the basis that you do not agree with the policies of a sitting president. Impeachment is very serious business and I don't think we should start going down that road based on partisanship or a philosophical difference of opinion. It is bad for our country in the long term. I thought the Republicans were inappropriate in their impeachment of President Clinton and I think it would be equally inappropriate to impeach Bush or Cheney (unless someone can explain to me and provide evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor they have committed.)

Let's just get over Bush/Cheney – what's done is done and they are becoming irrelevant now – and start to seriously consider who out of the new crop of candidates, whether Democrat or Republican, has the intelligence, experience and strength of character to tackle the big issues that he or she will be facing – including the ending of the Iraq war, the Iran issue, global warming, healthcare, Medicare, immigration, etc. I am a little biased being a Democrat, but I think we have some good choices there and at least one good Republican choice in John McCain (with whom I disagree with on many issues but like his qualities as a man and a leader).

Sunsetalan   January 7th, 2008 9:19 am ET

I'm a true conservative and I agree 100% Impeach Bush and Cheney together. The Nancy becomes president and Hillary's got a real problem. You socialists are a scream!

John B, Dallas, TX   January 7th, 2008 9:19 am ET

I don't think that the typical American is all that "hot" for an impeachment. I don't suspect it will happen. This looks like partisan bickering, to me.

Here's my take on the state of the Union:

I am very concerned about the economy. I am very concerned about the amount of money we have spent on the Iraq war. (I suspect we will be there for 50 more years). I am very concerned about our nation's deficit. I am very concerned that we are supporting communist China in such a big way.

I care about my own wallet.

I don't care what our "image" is to the rest of the world. The rest of the world has never liked America, anyway.

That's all.

Tom   January 7th, 2008 9:19 am ET

Impeach? YES!

W, use it in a sentence… "Impeaches sure taste good."

Walt   January 7th, 2008 9:18 am ET

I agree with him. The whole Iraq war and whatever other one they are planning is all about protecting their investments in foreign oil and total domination. These two have totally ignored the wishes of the American people and have suceeded in dragging our country down to the point where everyone hates us.

King NC   January 7th, 2008 9:18 am ET

I thought they should have been impeached 4 years ago

paul zokor   January 7th, 2008 9:17 am ET

A bitter, out of touch indivdual. Was he for the impeachment of Bill clinton?

Jen Cedar Falls, IA   January 7th, 2008 9:16 am ET

Get over yourself already. This isn't news, it's CNN and Clinton's revenge. This country could not withstand the upset of an Impeachment. It would weaken us, take us to a vulnerability that we cannot afford.
Bush's a lame duck, leave him lie.
You think you wans Pelosi to run this country? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Now THAT would be hilarious!

therealist   January 7th, 2008 9:16 am ET

Surprise, surprise. CNN leads off with Bush hate instead of focusing on the real politics of today. ie, Hillary's stunning collapse in the NH polls..

Rick   January 7th, 2008 9:15 am ET

Political Science 303 Folks.

When there is zero political courage in Washington D.C., THERE IS ZERO REPRESENTATION.

Only when the ELECTED OFFICIAL puts the interest(s) of the constituent first, at the express risk of his or her political survival will Representative Democracy work in the 21st century.

Impeach the entire Government, I say. Call a special emergency election. Throw each and every one of these bums out….NOW.

Representative Government simply does not work folks. Participatory Democracy is the wave of the future, via the Internet.

Get rid of Bush and his pathetic cronies now before they STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION.

The People v. George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America.

This is the real Impeachment here folks.

Rick from Colorado

thelma   January 7th, 2008 9:15 am ET

should have happened 7years ago he nor his dad were for this country they wanted to be dictators,

grace houston   January 7th, 2008 9:14 am ET

Am SO tired of "politics" over personal integrity – clearly what some are doing.
Why make such a comment (McGovern) at this time ? Yep, politics !!

g. h.

JJ   January 7th, 2008 9:14 am ET

I agree 100% and more people in respected positions or whom have held respected positions should speak out and let their true feelings about the subject be know.

Rick   January 7th, 2008 9:13 am ET

you country is screwed…period…

JMJ   January 7th, 2008 9:12 am ET

We need a national poll on this subject, right now:

"Should Congress begin impeachment proceedings against the President of the United States?"

And, if no poll is conducted, I'd say that's newsworthy in itself.

Robert McPhee   January 7th, 2008 9:12 am ET

Dick Cheney spent the first few months in the office of vice president over
at the fbi offices gthering the dirt on all politicians that Hoover had collected
while in power. He now uses this information as leverage to get votes in
the way they want them. This has been going on since early in 2001

This is the way they have been able to get the US Military into Iraq and
give The Halburton Company a blank check. These are all oil people and
all actions are for their own selfish greed.

I am for impeachment and more severe charges.

Robert McPhee

steve   January 7th, 2008 9:11 am ET

why would anyone listen to this old fool?

unless you're cnn.

Mickie West   January 7th, 2008 9:11 am ET

It's amazing that people are jumping on the bandwagon now to impeach Bush and Cheney but did not support those of us who were calling for impeachment when they first committed the offenses they are now citing as reasons. You just have to love these politicians who have to wait to see which way the wind is blowing and, of course, until Bush and Cheney are almost out of office any way. Where were they before this term even started?

Nobody cares about the rights of the people any more in this country, unless it's going to get them some attention for their own benefit. The citizens have been calling for impeachment for a long time and nobody has done anything about it. Once Nancy Pilosi got what she wanted, she took impeachment off the table.

Thomas   January 7th, 2008 9:11 am ET

Notice every lame comment supporting Bush & Cheney attacked the messenger and not the message. They know deep down that they are supporting war crimes and it gnaws on their soul. Criminals always blame everyone else and find excuses for their behavior. They simply don't care about the 100,000+ innocent people killed in their war and to hide their lies. Impeach Bush and Cheney, then start war criminal proceedings. Just read the legal conclusions of the Nuremburg Trials, particularly the one that talks about starting a war of agression. Those convicted were hanged. There is nothing to debate.

anonymous   January 7th, 2008 9:10 am ET

If you think Congress is moving at a snail's pace now, then by all means, begin impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney. I agree the two deserve it, but remember…Congress has a SLIM Democratic majority, and there are some Democrats (think Lieberman for one) who tend to side with Republican interests. Congress has been unable to accomplish much of what it hoped to do when it took power in 2006 because of this.

It's too bad that we aren't able to call for a "no confidence" vote (like California?) and recall our leaders, Bush and Cheney.

Joie   January 7th, 2008 9:10 am ET

Where do I sign? Let's finally do this!

Reenie   January 7th, 2008 9:10 am ET

I think Mr. McGovern has lost his mind.

zack   January 7th, 2008 9:10 am ET

Isn;t this a bit too late? I mean they should of impeahced those 2, years ago. Instead they get re-elected? Now,during the final year of their term in office this subject comes up. what difference is it gonna bring? The damage has been done and it's gonna be hard for any of the next presidents to clean up the mess.

Mickie West   January 7th, 2008 9:09 am ET

It's amazing that people are jumping on the bandwagon now to impeach Bush and Cheney but did not support those of us who were calling for impeachment when they first committed the offenses they are now citing as reasons. You just have to love these politicians who have to wait to see which way the wind is blowing and, of course, until Bush and Cheney are almost out of office any way. Where were they before this term even started?

Nobody cares about the rights of the people any more in this country, unless it's going to get them some attention for their own benefit.

Ernie   January 7th, 2008 9:09 am ET

George you are OH so right!!!!

Bob   January 7th, 2008 9:09 am ET

Thank God for the liberals, they will surely save us all. More like open up the borders completely and give whatever is left to the Chinese government.

Clinton vilolated what the White House stands for and all he had to say was "I did not have sex with that woman".

You people are all pathetic. You will get your wish when Obama is president because then it will truely be over.

DR   January 7th, 2008 9:09 am ET

Where did they dig this guy up?

This guy was, and still is, about divisiveness. On top of that, he is still sour grapes about losing in one of the biggest landslides in election history back in…1972! Wow, 35 years have passed and he is still spewing the same garbage!

George, please take this tired act back to the liberal loon retirement home where it belongs. And don't worry, you'll have company soon enough in the person of one Jimmy Carter — another sore loser who put this country in such economic straits in the late 70s that we needed a REPUBLICAN to get us out of it.

Jason   January 7th, 2008 9:07 am ET

I have too say to all those people out there that impeachment is not supposed to be used as a political tool. There is only two presidents in American history that have been impeached, and neither one was removed from office. The offences that are talked about by McGovern are not only almost impossible to prove but in most cases not impeachable.

No matter what the case with the Iraq War which is what i think is McGovern's last straw was done legally. No matter where you fall on the spectrum, crazy left to far right, congress approved it with the same knowledge that Bush and Cheney had when they wanted to invade.

McGovern get you law and history right prior to writing an editorial where you look like a "loony" with the rest of the washed up. No matter what you feel about war, not one person can tell me staying in Iraq at this point is a must to hold stability in the region. Even if McGovern's claims are correct and we should have never went it. Either way it is not impeachable!

So to everyone that wants to impeach a president just because they do not agree with their views, Grow Up!!

Dave, OK   January 7th, 2008 9:07 am ET

Hum, I'm confused- Now would we much rather have someone disclose the the TRUTH and work through that; or Would we rather be lied to and live with it?

AMERICA- SEEM LIKE TO ME YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE COMING OR GOING?????

Governer- you are right, don't give up. Hell we all have skeleton and inperfactions. WE THE PEOPLE WILL SHOW THE WORLD THAT SOME OF USE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE THEFT OF BUSH AND CHANEY BEING IN OFFICE.

THERE IS A TIME TO RISE AND A TIME TO FALL. THEY ARE FALLING OUT OF OFFICE. BECAUSE WE SEE AND EVERYONE ELSE SEE.

A GREEEEEDY HEART IS A POOR HEART THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE MURDERED COUNTLESS AND HAVE ONLY A HAND FULL OF FOLLOWERS NOW.

THE CURSE THEY HAVE WILLED TO THEIR FAMILIES WILL LAST FOREVER AROUND THE WORLD. THEY WILL FOREVER BE HATED. THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES NOT US.

YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD YOU DIE BY THE SWORD.

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE BUT NEVER ALL!!!!!!!

GETTEM OUT!!!!!!

Michigan Josh   January 7th, 2008 9:05 am ET

I have yet to read/seen/hear ANYONE present a clear-cut case for the impeachment of the President and/or Vice President. While there are many strong feelings of resentment from diehard liberals who cannot stand anyone remotely conservative, it appears that McGovern is following Al Gore's trend of speaking out as another Democratic loser to a Republican President. Bitter feelings are not enough to justify impeachment. If someone could outline the specifics of the President's alleged crimes, I might be more sympathetic to the cause. As it is however, not a single person has connected President Bush's "crimes" to the constitutional articles they violate. Faulty information is not the President's responsibility. If the CIA messes up, and the President uses that information, which was accurate at the time, then the worst that anyone here can do is accuse him of being hasty and irrational (which he has been on occasion), but not of deliberate deceit to a degree that other Presidents have not used. Now I can sit back and watch liberal extremists (who will deny being so, of course) attempt to discredit and insult me.

Gregory Wood   January 7th, 2008 9:05 am ET

Impeachment is the leveling of charges (similar to an indictment in criminal law) and does not require a supermajority. Does Mr. McGovern give us any insight into the specific charges that should be leveled? Since the opposing party has a majority in the House and Senate, why haven't they brought any charges? I'll give an example: Perjury before a grand jury and obstruction of justice ARE impeachable offenses.

Tony   January 7th, 2008 9:03 am ET

I believe he is right.

GR baltimore, MD   January 7th, 2008 9:03 am ET

i agree with John — where were these people way back when….when this view wasn't held? you're right, of course, George — but way too late, man! when are we as a nation going to start paying attention?? i have no faith anymore….cattle.

Sam   January 7th, 2008 9:03 am ET

Too little, too late. Over a million innocent people have died in this satanic agression. We have added a new word to our vocabulary "terrorism". We have lost our feedom, privacy, and rights " patriot act". We have shown the world how ruthless we are as a nation, which regrads Columbus invasion a " discovery", there were 70 million people on this continent before 1492 invasion. we are a nation of hypocrits. We claim that we won " the war on terror " that we have created in the first place. we have harbored all the tyrons in the world and funded them for decades, so they may "Protect our Interests". Those Dictators are the terrorists we planted thoughout the world. We encouraged them to steal bring to us the wealth of their nations as investments ( how lawfull & ethical to harbor stolen property knowingly). we have over 50,000 injured servicemen who have been maimed for life not withstanding all the dead people & and shatered lives. We have this administration to thank . Congress, & the house is as guilty as Bush & Chaney, they allowed it to happen, watched it happen, perhaps encouraged it to happen. We need to soul search our core values, and speakout.

Nels   January 7th, 2008 9:03 am ET

Do you know that our natonal debt has nearly doubled since Bush was elected?

One More Steve   January 7th, 2008 9:02 am ET

Yeah, everything is there to get Bush kicked out of office. Misrepresentation, unsactioned actions, all of it. And anyways, if Bush has all the rights we have, shouldn't he be subject to all our laws also? Anyone remember that Andrew Meyer kid who got tasered last year when he asked John Kerry if he thought Bush should be impeached? well, he was causing quite a ruckus.
This was on the very front page at the very top of that page because Mcgovern is a former SD Senator.

The Forgotten One   January 7th, 2008 9:01 am ET

Where's Osama? Bush and company should have been impeached the moment they gave up on the guy that attacked us. Does he not remember 9/11?

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 9:01 am ET

I think it is noy only the congress, senate, nor the republicans or democrats, but also the people. You and me! Does anyone know the process of impeachment? Starts in the congress who decides by majority if the president is impeached, then the senate makes the sentence. How many people have gatered together and put pressure on their congressman to start the impeachment process? Me myself have written to several congressmen and senators demanding the president is impeached. The only one who responded is Hillary Clinton, and I heard that she actually reads her mail and considers the views and ideas of people who write to her. Seems to be true, because she responded to me. But look people, I am only one person! This never results in much change. My husband keeps warning me to be careful or I can get in trouble, but I told him if anyone wants to join me I am not afraid to seak what I believe or that I can get in trouble. So people, please try to take some action and join together. The squeaky wheel gets oild, so if the congress, senate, democrats or republicans are not acting, then start putting pressure on them, start speaking up, and join together. If anyone is wonderring why it has taken so long, then start taking some action. Write to your congress and start putting pressure on your congressman. And if you want someone in office that is not afraid to stand up and take action, then son't look to Obama. He is nothing but a good motivational speaker, and only good for talk. If you want a candidate who is not afraid to take action and will listen to your views, then look to either Ron Paul, Huckabee, or Clinton. Regardless of democrat or republican, these are the three who can make change. I live in Egypt, so it is difficult for me to gather together with anyone, but if I lived in the States I would for sure be organizing groups. But I am doing my part from here by writing to congress and the senate.

R.S. Kennedy   January 7th, 2008 9:00 am ET

Is the evidence against Bush stronger that it was against Bill Clinton when he was impeached? I noticed that you did not mention Slick Willy.

rj   January 7th, 2008 8:59 am ET

All you people stating that bush should be impeached are ignorant. First he must have committed a crime! If protecting out county from terrorism is a crime then I need to look at a move here soon. When those planes flew into our buildings not long ago we were attacked, with people like this we must attack or they will. I have the utmost respect for our men and women serving to protect me and my family. I have also had to face the fact that if we weren't over there they would be here. Get a clue you libs.

JuleS, Chicago   January 7th, 2008 8:59 am ET

Right on, Mr. McGovern! This adminstration's complete and criminal disregard for the Constitution is nothing less than treasonous.

Such grievous actions as these two have undertaken would have been punishable by hard time in the stockades, or even executiion, 200 years ago.

Yes, it's time to stop the runaway train that is the Bush-Cheney administration, before it runs over any more of our rights and does any more harm to the world.

keepa   January 7th, 2008 8:57 am ET

The terrorist group responsible for the destruction of America is the Bush/Cheney gang. It's been an inside job folks,sorry. They have lit the fuse and are going to blow up the works,meanwhile grabbing as much of the gold as their fists and saddle bags can hold.

Too little too late George M.
Where were all of our democratic representatives hiding these past 7 years?? With the gangster tactics of this administration everyone has kept their heads down.

Remember our motto? LIFE, LIBERTY,and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS
Happiness is something these thugs know nothing about and actively pursue it's destruction.

A sad and sorry state of affairs

amyr   January 7th, 2008 8:56 am ET

I couldn't have said it better myself.
The truth will set you free boys.

RJ   January 7th, 2008 8:55 am ET

How long has George McGovern been senile?

Craig   January 7th, 2008 8:55 am ET

It's amazing…responses seem to take only two different forms:

1) McGovern's right and Bush/Cheney should be impeached.

2) McGovern wasn't successful in his election bid thirty-some years ago, so his opinions are worthless. This tactic is called an "ad hominem" attack and is a well-known logical fallacy used by those with no valid argument.

Thankfully, those who agree seem to outnumber those who don't by a huge margin.

At least we'll see some change in 2009…I just hope it isn't backwards 60 years by electing some hillbilly Creationist minister. At least all the Democratic contenders understand the concept of "separation of church and state."

Jane Henry   January 7th, 2008 8:54 am ET

I so agree with this sentiment! I can't believe that the citizens of this country have not risen up in arms to impeach Bush and Cheney – they are guilty of many crimes and have put our once fine democratic country into a deep hole – morally, fiscally and in many other ways around the globe. Wherever I go, when I see non-Americans – I tell them not to hate Americans – just hate our government! But it is up to all of us to make sure we get a big change in November 2008 – unless they steal the election from the people again.

John (Beacon, New York)   January 7th, 2008 8:53 am ET

McGovern is right. Again …

pam   January 7th, 2008 8:52 am ET

It's about time someone said what needed to be said and saw that the Emperor wasn't wearing any clothes….And is truly clinically insane to boot.
Where do I sign on….

Barton   January 7th, 2008 8:52 am ET

Why can't the old dogs like McGovern and Jimmy Carter go quietly and gracefully into the politicians retirment home?? They had their time, their shot and NEITHER of them was up to the fight. Don't go away mad George, just go away.

Peggy   January 7th, 2008 8:50 am ET

YES! Impeachment should have been done years ago!

Bush and his bunch are criminals. They've violated their oaths of office, violated the Constitution, denied people of their civil liberties, LIED to the American public and Congress — and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

How much more does Congress need to start impeachment proceedings?

Does Congress have to be the ones to do it? Can't ordinary citizens and city/county/state governments start impeachment proceedings?

Come on! Let's get off our apathetic backsides and take our country back!

RJ Harrisburg PA   January 7th, 2008 8:50 am ET

Yes, now I remember the clear mandate of the people what swept Mcgovern into the White House. No, wait, maybe that was a collective acid trip the Dems had. How else do explain Jimmy Carter after that?

Talk about kool aid drinkers, this place is full of them (and it)

RE: Jimmy, Iowa   January 7th, 2008 8:49 am ET

OMG THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW- PEOPLE HAVE NO JURIDICTION OVER THEIR OWN OFFSPRING. HOLD YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE, SLACKER/ LOSER. ANOTHER DUMB AND LAZY AMERICAN WANTING SOMEONE ELSE TO THE BE THEIR KIDS ROLE MODEL. Some Parent are too dumd or is the cause of their kids using dope.

THE WAY YOU TALK and IF YOU WERE MY PARENT I WOULD USE CRANK TOO!!!!!!!!! I HAVE ALL RACES IN MY FAMILY- SO WITHOUT SEEING COLOR OBAMA ROCK!!! SHOW THIS COLOR CRIPPLED NATION WHAT UNITY IS ALL ABOUT.

IMPEACH THOSE LIARS. GOVERNER THESE ARE THE SAME CHICKENS WHO VOTED THE S.O.B's IN OFFICE, IGNORE THEIR STUPIDITY. YOU ROCK!!

Jimmy, Iowa January 6, 2008 10:29 pm ET

My teen ager just told me it was ok to smoke pot and snort crank because Obama did. Obama YOU BETTER EXPLAIN TO MY CHILD NOW> I WILL HOLD YOU RESPOINSABLE if any thing happens to my child. I don;t know how to get this message to you so I will send it in every blog I can until you answer. THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE YOU OPENED UP WITH OUR CHILDREN. NOW RESPOND>> YES I AM ANGRY

Clifton   January 7th, 2008 8:46 am ET

They should be impeached

L   January 7th, 2008 8:46 am ET

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Louie   January 7th, 2008 8:44 am ET

To all of you trumpeting the success of the Bush administration in keeping us safe,

Do you remember 9/11? It was on his watch. Regardless of whether or not it would have happened were another person in charge that day, saying that we haven't had any attacks since is proof of effective counter-terrorism is faulty logic at best. That we haven't been attacked is not proof of a successful defense. We could just as easily praise Bush for protecting us against yeti, godzilla, and UFOs.

John Marietta, GA   January 7th, 2008 8:44 am ET

Its looks lik eit is about 100% in agreement with Mr McGovern. Not one person has posted a single reason why these two crimninal should not be held accountable. You can drop the "left extremist" nonsens too. Tho only one in disagreement left are the extreme luntatic fringe. Making arguments like McGovern is irrelelevant is typical reupublican dodging. It does not matter who is saying it, the discussion should be about the rule of law. THe laghuable defense ot the Bush CHenney Cabal that Mcgovern lost is hillarious. As if this descredits him somehow? I think he was clearly redeemed when Nixion turned out to be a lying crook and was thrown out of office. Now you singnuts argue that Bush and Chenney should be excused of their crimes because the person claiming so, was nt elected and lost to the worst presidentin history, prior to Geroage Bush? The wheels have come off the republican party, you have ZERO credability left and you have been exposed as a few partisan winguts. You deserve the thumping your going to get in the next elections, you earned it.

One last question for you supporters. What would Bush have to do before you thought he should be impeached? Is their a line he could cross in your eyes or is it Bush no matter what. Tell me again what Bush Derangement SYndrome really is!

Scott   January 7th, 2008 8:43 am ET

McGovern is still alive?

Ok, impeach Bush, Cheney and all of those in Congress that voted for this war. They all contributed and saw the same intel reports. They were elected to be an check and balence to the White House.

Empty the government and start over.

Allen, Cleveland, OH   January 7th, 2008 8:43 am ET

Many people on here have no idea what constitutes "high crimes and misdemeanors" or an "impeachable" offense. Many people are upset with the war and the policies of the Bush Administration, but they seem to be going overboard with their reactions. I'm not justifying the behavior of the Administration, but enough with the knee-jerk commentary. Just because you don't like what's going on doesn't mean the actions of the Administration warrant impeachment. Rather than flail our arms and cry impeachment, let's focus on making sure we elect the right person as the next President of the United States.

Ross   January 7th, 2008 8:43 am ET

I Think Cheney should run for president, He would beat the rest of the WIMPS running!

TJ   January 7th, 2008 8:39 am ET

He is an idiot. I find it funny to watch people throw around vague accusations.

I also find it funny that everyone wants to impeach these two but say nothing of Congress that voted for the war (Hillary, you go girl!) and worked with them on many issues.

And finally remember you're all in the minority – more than half the people in the Country voted for them. Cry about 2000 if you want to.

Marc Aubin   January 7th, 2008 8:36 am ET

I agree: empeach the bastards. Here's an even better question that my father poses all the time as we laugh at the fact that a man like President Bush ever came to power: how is it that a country like the US could vote such a man into office a second time? Our personal household theory is that Americans who voted for Bush are either very ignorant or brainwashed. "War on Terror"? Give me a break… That's a Bush euphemism used as an excuse for doing whatever the hell he wants, despite world opposition. Think communism. People were so brainwashed and controlled with "communism" that the idea of socialism, a very Christian idea, was almost completely wiped out of the American psychy. Now, you have problems with decaying cities, a huge underclass, etc, etc. If those two men are ever stupid enough to invade Iran, I hope the American people wake up and declare an insurrection, because if they don't, then the international community will.

Canada

Sam   January 7th, 2008 8:30 am ET

Senility at it's best,this old man needs to go away.America didn't like him back then and doesn't want to hear from him now.

John Anthony   January 7th, 2008 8:30 am ET

Cheney and Bush aren't just guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors; they are international war criminals as well. They should both be impeached, convicted, removed from office, tried in an international court as previous war criminals have been, and then be sentenced to, at the very least, a lifetime of hard labor (after first being waterboarded, of course). They have seriously damaged our constitution and have destroyed our credibility worldwide. They must be made to pay the price for their actions!

Jim from Los Alamos   January 7th, 2008 8:29 am ET

To Matt from New York – Read the book by Greenwald, the Constitutional lawyer from New York, for evidence of impeachable acts by Bush and Cheney. There is plenty of evidence for impeachment. Impeachment is about determining if impeachable acts have been committed, not about the precedence of bad determinations.

Sherry   January 7th, 2008 8:29 am ET

What about the Supreme Court's decision in the 2000 election. Perhaps it was them who changed the course of history for this country.

Ken   January 7th, 2008 8:27 am ET

I wonder if Gold Spoon Bush is going to China before he leaves office so the Chinese can thank him in person for selling us out?
I'm sure on his next trip to the middle east the Saudis will thank him for paying them back for making his family rich when George senior lost everything and they had nothing.
The Iraq war? All lies the whole way.
Bush and Chaney belong in prison for treason to the people of the United States at the least and that is a fact.

Ron   January 7th, 2008 8:27 am ET

McGovern was a rambling idiot in 1972 when he was trounced in the biggest landslide presidential victory by Richard Nixon, and he has proven that 36 years later he is still a rambling idiot.

Rylan   January 7th, 2008 8:27 am ET

Wow, the libs really look up to such a person? All you have to do is say something anti Bush, and the come running! I would be ashamed. No wonder CNN is going down the crapper!

KLIVES   January 7th, 2008 8:23 am ET

Yeah,

Let waste some more time and not do anything for the country Democrats and Republicans both don't help anyone out but themselves. How much would an investigation and impeachment cost and how long. Bush has one year left, why bother. I wish some democrats would quit crying about Bush and do something to make a difference. Clinton especially is hoping for the I hate Bush group, if she had a chance at election she is not going to do it by saying oh I hate this, I hate that. She has to say what she is going to do and not just tell people what they want to her. All the canidates need to stand up and say I will do this, or this, or this. But not just say it, say how you are going to do it. By the way Republicans are not any better. Someone give please give me some affordable healthcare, Republican, Democrat, anyone? They only have been talking about it since Bill Clinton was elected almost 16 years ago. He couldn't do anything, George Bush couldn't do anything. Why because Republicans sat there and said I hate Clinton, and Democrats sit there and say "I hate Bush".

I really hope someone moderate wins because I get sick of these parties fighting, they get nothing done.

PS I hate no one. But please someone do some work.

Pickles, Monaca, PA   January 7th, 2008 8:22 am ET

I would like to know what Kool-Aid these Bush-loving neo-con clowns are sipping. They get stupider by the minute and are never more stupid than when they try to defend the administration of these warmongering cowards who ducked their own war. At last, most of the American people realize that this Emperor has no clothes.

Melissa   January 7th, 2008 8:21 am ET

Dumbya is a war criminal and should be tried for treason along with his entire administration.

For those 20% of you that still support this idiot, why? Wake up, people!

Earl Adams   January 7th, 2008 8:21 am ET

I am in TOTAL agreement. The Bush administration has been a disaster for the United States of America. Far worse than any we have ever seen. The ramifications of this debacle will be felt for generations.

PHIL CYPRESS, TX   January 7th, 2008 8:21 am ET

MCGOVERN IS AN IDIOT AND ALL OF YOU WHO FOLLOW HIM…..

BUSH DID HIS BEST WITH THE IMFORMATION HE WAS GIVING……

THIS COUNTRY IS SAFER TODAY THAN IN 2001

THE TROOPS ARE DOING THE BEST JOB THEY CAN WITH NO SURPORT OF THE DEM. CONGRESS….

BUSH ALSO HAS NO HELP FROM CONGRESS

THE MEDIA AND THE DEM. MAKE ME SICK…

IF A DEM. WINS THE WHITE HOUSE ALL HELL WE BREAK OUT AND THIS COUNTRY WILL BE UNSAFE…………..

Dan Novak   January 7th, 2008 8:19 am ET

This is probably the only thing McGovern ever got right in his life. Must be old age. Impeachment was already put on the table by a few brave souls and promptly removed by the spineless leaders. Why are their no elected officials that have the integrity and the courage to properly represent the citizens of this country ? I guess it's all about the money……..so sad.

steve   January 7th, 2008 8:19 am ET

Mr McGovern ought to take his senile, liberal, anti any war, anti republican butt back home

Bob   January 7th, 2008 8:17 am ET

Thanks Senator McGovern! The Bush Presidency has been a nightmare. Since he stole the election in November 2000, George Bush has disgraced the United States.

Stuart   January 7th, 2008 8:17 am ET

Impeachment will not solve our problems, it will only help Bush and Cheney hide their criminal activities. Continue with the investigation, the American has the right to know what this administration has done from subverting our constitutional rights, turning this country akin to fascism.

brenda.ohio   January 7th, 2008 8:16 am ET

go get em mcgovern.

Maynard J.   January 7th, 2008 8:15 am ET

Getting rid of the political power of Dick and Bush would be a blessing not only to this nation but to the entire world. They have done nothing but cause death and destruction while fattening the pockets of their already welathy friends. I honestly believe both want to start a war in Iran as well and may very well do so before their terms are up. Do something now before this nation takes a look at its next Depression. We're way past a recession and have been for months now.

Kevin R. Williams   January 7th, 2008 8:15 am ET

Big question…why do politicians become self rightous and real once they leave Washington D.C. This man has been out of DC longer than Ive been alive and now he wants to impeach Bush and Cheney…I agree but if this old man can see the reasons and justification for impeachment, how come some of the people in DC cant make the case…reason politics is run by rich people, blue bloods who literally defend each other…that is the reality…even if you impeach both of those men the big question is: Have innocent people died, killed, tortured and how come we have allowed this to happen…

Bubba, Swainsboro GA   January 7th, 2008 8:13 am ET

I gotta say I agree. If I'd been accused the way this administration's been accused, I'd demand my day in court.

Unless I was guilty, in which case I'd hem and haw and blame it on my dumb friend Scooter.

charles arnold,crofton,md   January 7th, 2008 8:12 am ET

Who could possibly take any statement from a loser like George McGovern seriously

PSK Lakeside, AZ   January 7th, 2008 8:12 am ET

Thank-you Mr. McGovern, for so eloquently and honestly stating what so many of us have thought & felt for SO LONG. I'm not sure if this country can survive another year of the present administration. I'm not even sure we can ever repair the overwhelming damage inflicted by the twins of destruction. Our reputation is completely shot to hell- decent American people are looked upon with distrust and abhorrence. Small wonder- but painful none-the-less. Mr. McGovern is also very correct in saying that an impeachment attempt, albeit completely appropriate, will never happen.

James   January 7th, 2008 8:12 am ET

Wow, what a sad bunch of "I Hate America" Liberals on this page. And what a bunch of people with short memories. Regime change was MOST DEFINITELY a policy that the Clinton administration was in favor of, yet so many idiots try to act like GW Bush invaded Iraq and deposed Hussein just on a whim.
And of course we hear the same tired BS about how GW Bush and Cheney invaded Iraq just to benefit the military-industrial complex, (and be sure to ALWAYS mention Haliburton, Bechtel and Blackwater – you get extra "Leftist points" if you mention them!). Wouldn't if be sad though if GW and his administration invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because they truly believed it was in the best interests of stopping future attacks on this country? Yeah, but no Liberal can believe that – it would shatter their illusions of GW as the most evil American of the last 200 years.
As most of you might recall, American interests were attacked time after time during Clinton's time in office. The first attack on the WTC, the attack on the USS Cole, embassy bombings in Africa, etc. Clinton's response was to lob a few cruise missiles at Iraq, and at Bin Laden's camp (too late, of course). In other words, no real response at all. At least George Bush has sent terrorists a message – we will come after you.
So by all means, elect a Democrat and end the global war on terrorism. And expect a much-worse "9-11 style" attack to soon follow. But of course, there will be no impeachment of a President that allows the 2nd 9/11 to occur. Simply pathetic, the lot of you……………

Dave M   January 7th, 2008 8:10 am ET

Had McGovern been running the country on 9/11 he would have apologized to the terrorists and surrendered. Personally I'd rather a Bush/Cheny approach – with all of it's warts – rather than a wimp (re: McGovern, Gore). Look…few appear happy with the administration's performance…but what is the alternative? Yeah, let's go elect a 1 term junior Senator to run the country…or a NYC Mayor…or the wife of a prior President! Come on America…Where is the brilliant leadership we really need?????? Why can we (yes, WE…we the People)…find someone among us that is of FDR, or Jefferson or Lincoln caliber???

bob givey   January 7th, 2008 8:10 am ET

McGovern is absolutely correct. This administration is a disgrace. It is a shame that the Democrats do not have the guts to even try to bring impeachment forward. Imagine if Al Gore were president and did what Bush-Cheney have done. Can't you just hear Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and the other Bush boasters ranting and raving about Gore and calling for his impeachment. Think about it. Only one more year to Deliverance Day, January 20, 2009.

WrongTom   January 7th, 2008 8:08 am ET

Tom,
Bush was never elected by anyone. He stole the election just like the idiot in Kenya by the name of Kibaki. Then again, see how power can corrupt…

Mary   January 7th, 2008 8:07 am ET

Yes, Yes, Yes I have been saying Mr. McGoven's sentiments for the last 3 years.
The republicans tortured President Clinton over a private matter but Bush has been getting away with murder. Impeachment NOW come on Congress show some guts.

An illegal American   January 7th, 2008 8:06 am ET

"Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world,"

Is this true? Yes, but only the latter part of the statement was true. I'm an Asian immigrant living in the U.S. I often read Asian news and discussion. In these media, America was cynically accused all kinds of ways. The statements like "Iraq Invasion was for oil" and "911 was a conspiracy" was easily made believed there.
Most Americans do not know what's really going on outside the country. There's serious propaganda against the US, spreading by, I believe, hard line Muslims around the world. The propaganda that even liberal Americans play along with it. One columnist in Asia Times – Kaveh L Afrasiabi, who I believe used to work under Khomeini's government – wrote many articles about the U.S. These articles showed me that he had bias against the U.S. So, who write for the U.S. in these international magazines? I'm afraid no one does.

When the world put America in a court that doesn't provide any defense lawyer, why would you be a witness to help accusing it? It seemed like, in those Asian media I read, I was the only tiny defense lawyer trying to show the readers the other side of the story. I tried hard to explain that for most Americans, democracy is more important than oil, but it may be too late. So what America can do now is 1st, shut up Rosy O'donnell and 2nd, start fighting back through the media.

Joe   January 7th, 2008 8:06 am ET

It is about 7 years late to Impeach those liars and crooks but like the saying " better late than never". Never in the history of the United States has there been so much corruption, lies, criminal acts by all politicians ( knowing Bush will save them ), wasting of money, and just plain incompetent actions by our government than during the Bush years. Also, I am sick of being punished for working and being a productive member of society by my health insurance rates goiing up , co-pays going up , etc while the lazy filth of our society, the welfare recipients, continue to get 100% paid medical, no co-pays, pay no taxes and just plain rewarded to sit home, make more babies who eventually go on the welfare rolls, cry about there situation and commit criminal acts. Give working America free health care and make the bums fend for themselves. They too could work if they chose but why would they when they have it better than the working people.

Brent, Fairfax, VA   January 7th, 2008 8:05 am ET

Wow, I didn't realize there were so many Constitutional Law experts amongst us, or are they just venting their dislike to Bush/Cheney? Most likely the latter…as I doubt a single poster can cite an instance where their freedoms have been eroded. I suppose the posters believe their outlandish claims are validated by the volume of loons that posted similar ridiculous charges. Isn't it nice to have the personal freedoms to criticize our Government without repercusions? Idiots!!!!

Another MI guy   January 7th, 2008 8:05 am ET

I love it when folks start to demean an individual for his views. "McGovern lost 49 states in a presidential election" or "McGovern is an old bitter man who wants attention" like somehow because they write a post on a blog, they know more about american politics than anyone else. Bury your heads deeper in the sand, in fact how about you head over to the desert and live there where there is plenty of it. Apparently you are so desirous of it you are willing to send your children to die on it. And this argument that we are somehow being "protected" by this action is like saying "see there aren't any elephants trampling Washington, our war against them is working" oh wait the elephants are trampling Washington…

Linda Zajac   January 7th, 2008 8:02 am ET

Impeachment takes too long. HELLO LEGISLATORS, here's another one for you to spend long hours painstakingly drafting up so it can be vetoed. What happens to an employee that is not performing on the job?

I write about scientific research all over the world. Some of these scientists devote years to their work. Others devote their ENTIRE LIVES. We need to listen to what they are saying. For those who do not believe that glaciers are melting, take a look at the video on my website http://www.lindarosezajac.com

alex, sacramento ca   January 7th, 2008 7:57 am ET

fr Tom:

>..President Bush has kept this country from suffering another attack since 9/11 and these "ingrates" continue to act like our terrorist enemies around world by attacking the President for everything including the weather…..<

Oh puhleeze. The thing the shrub will be remembered for is his LACK of attention when 9/11 happened, he kept reading to a kindergarten class about a goat. Oh, also for lining his own pockets.

PJ   January 7th, 2008 7:51 am ET

I thought McGovern was dead

Lee Weber   January 7th, 2008 7:51 am ET

I voted for him in 2000. And, I'm a red blooded american who is very conservative. All that said, I'm aghast at what has happened under this administration. It has sucked the life out of generations to come, and forced a finsncial burdne on generations yet to come – a debt never seen in the histrory of the world. It has bloodied nations abroad, it's ignored border security, and sucked long standing allies into war using corruption and lies.And the death, and human losses…it can not be measured. The deciet, and blind eye is repulsive. This is true, non-partisan fact. Its recorded in the history books for all to read. However, the worst side effect of the Bush adminstartion that I have witnessed is the inability of our entire govermenrt to act accordinly. ALL of our elected officials (all of congress and the senate) failed (fail) to do THEIR duties and protect the interest of the American people from further damage by Bush's policies and actions. Shame on them. People want to know why a black guy named Obama is kicking everyones butt for the upcoming presidential elections????? Becasue we've seen what the "white" establsihment has done this past decade, and the American People are desperate for anything, or anyone that is NOT what IS.
I've given up on this Country.

Rick Mathews   January 7th, 2008 7:47 am ET

It's so sad when public displays of senility are widely reported like this. At least Reagon had the decency to keep his drift out of the public view. Poor George!

bill p   January 7th, 2008 7:47 am ET

George McGovern ? Isn't that a synonym for the word "biggest -loser" ? When the
far left strong arm goverment types don't agree with a policy, they spew personal
hate, envy, and trot out the old liberal war cry of impeachment. George we would be all bearded and wearing berka's if your ilk ever had power. Worry about this country and yes our relation to others, but, as Washington mused; nations "interest" dictate their reactions, not because they like or dislike us. McGoverns foolishness just isn't funny anymore, its tiresome, close to extinction, yet more dangerous in todays world.

Will   January 7th, 2008 7:46 am ET

Where do plants like Stan Goodman (oxymoron, huh!) and Derek Emery, the former even claiming to have once been a Democrat (LOL), come from? Press hating Bush? The majority of the electorate bringing the nation down to the level of a banana republic? Invasion of Iraq because it was the only place where certain chemicals come from? Pathologic WINGNUTS, that grow in every blog post, seem almost as disingenuous and dishonest as "the most trusted name in news" CNN.

Willy   January 7th, 2008 7:42 am ET

Is George McGovern basing this on his vast experience as a former POTUS? That right his liberal azz was kicked to the curb by America. Sour Grapes.

Dave Luke   January 7th, 2008 7:41 am ET

This kind of nonsense is why McGovern never was a truly viable candidate for the presidency , even in the golden age for his far left wing politics. To some, the transgressions of the Nixon administration vindicated Mcgovern. In reality, they simply postponed the relagation of Mcgovern's politics to history's trash heap.

Richard Ward (ex-pat), Paris, France   January 7th, 2008 7:40 am ET

Forget impeachment since that will never happen. The real question to ask is why they were re-elected in 2004 when the people who have been misled and lied to put them back in office to continue what they started. It is one thingto have Bush's brother put him in office the first time but there is no one but the American people to blame for the second time.

Joe   January 7th, 2008 7:39 am ET

If these two are impeached, which there is no doubt they should be , look who becomes president, Pelosi, oh my god from the toilet right onto the sewer.

gerd.vilardi   January 7th, 2008 7:28 am ET

I am happy to see that not all is lost and that there are plenty of good americans that think like I do. Mr Mc.Govern you lost the election and did not learn nothing from it,
thats wy you lost and remain a big loser.

Sam I am   January 7th, 2008 7:27 am ET

Exsoviet:

Don't be too bothered by these fools. They are just the same type that would be communist party appartchiks during the Soviet days keeping busy by spying on their neighbors. They are leftists who in their hearts really don't like their own country or themselves and thrive on self-delusion and the advancement of evil.
Oh, and "BDS" stands for Bush Derangement Syndrome if you didn't know. Do a search for it if you're interested. It's a real pathology and on heavy display here.

Eric   January 7th, 2008 7:25 am ET

It seems about true to form for rabid republican posters to largely avoid the issues and rant like high school punks. Calling a man senile or a lefty moonbat or other similar things just because he is an elder politician of a different political bent does nothing to elevate conservative principles or advance the cause. It just tells Americans what to expect to pass for political thought from so-called conservatives if they are re-elected. If you "elect" a C student as president and expect a great statesman you are deluded, but if you elect any American of any party as president and see him eviscerate the constitution, deplete the treasury, damage the presige of the nation, fail to properly use our military might, have his administration expose and disclose the identity or our agents, tamper with the objectivity of the federal judiciary and federal prosecutors, and otherwise undermine the foundation of the economy, democracy, and justice, then you do have a the building blocks, however late-constructed, for impeachment – defined in the terms given us by the founders.

Dan   January 7th, 2008 7:25 am ET

McGovern's irrelevance only increases with time.

He would have our president crawl on his knees to Osama bin Laden to beg for an end to Islamist terrorism.

Jon   January 7th, 2008 7:24 am ET

I agree, Impeach those lairs!!!

Geoff   January 7th, 2008 7:23 am ET

How do the people stand up for themselves? Are the people willing to walk away from their jobs, perhaps lose their jobs, to go march on Washington in protest and demand impeachment? Unfortunately, the answer, for now, is no. No one is willing to take the risk to stand up and be heard publicly. Too afraid of the consequences of speaking up, when there shouldn't be any consequences for free speech.

"Free speech zones"?

Do I remember the Presidents car being egged during his second innauguration?

The President of the United States should be at the very least an intelligent and honest man. This Bush is neither.

Education, knowledge and free speech are cornerstones of the power of the people, sadly, the majority of the population is not knowledgable about current events in this country, much less the truth about politics and our leaders, where does our education system rank among other nations now? Free speech, the Govn't has made us too afraid to stand up publicly and be heard. Those things should change.

Sam I am   January 7th, 2008 7:15 am ET

I really got a kick out of the delusions of the BDS sufferers here. Thanks, y'all!

But as usual it makes me ponder the deeper question of what happened to these fools in their lives to poison their brains so much. Was it somethng formative in youth? Some kind of indoctrination that warps a normal mind into that of the Western Leftist? Maybe it was a combination of factors but it all adds up to a waste and a tragedy.

Mike Everston   January 7th, 2008 7:15 am ET

Yes, Yes, I agree, Bush and Cheney should and MUST be IMPEACH.
The most sacred document for all American's is our CONSTITUTION and these two individuals has violated it.

kile betendorf   January 7th, 2008 7:12 am ET

Calling for an impeachment against a politician is a laughable subject in it's entirety. Asking the political machine to police itself ! I hate to wake any of you people up, but it won't happen. Birds of a feather stick together and if one goes down it will have a dominoe effect on a lot of the crooked swine. The whole political gang should be indicted under the *RICO STATUETS", and I mean both parties.

DEF, Norfolk Va   January 7th, 2008 7:08 am ET

Seems as thought good 'ole Georgie Mac is throwing stones not only at the President, but at Congress, and Senate. Wouldn't he be more accurate, to suggest impeaching all of the American Politicians?

Randall, Georgia   January 7th, 2008 7:04 am ET

Can we please send McGovern and Jimmy Carter somewhere? The American People were not interested in their thoughts, ideas, and policies in '72 or '80.
Only CNN and Libs with no facts are interested now.

Scott, Raleigh NC   January 7th, 2008 7:04 am ET

America got exactly what it voted for in Bush and Cheney.
They knew what they were getting, and if they didn't, they weren't doing their homework.
We are now paying the price.

Steve, Canada   January 7th, 2008 6:56 am ET

The only arguement and Bush/Cheney supporters have throughout these posts is that McGovern is a washed-up, weakling. Obviously, they don't disagree with him, or else there would be some good arguements why they SHOULDN'T be impeached? I haven't found one in the 700 or so I've read.

If you don't like the answer, attack the messenger. Good work fellas.

al bishop   January 7th, 2008 6:55 am ET

As a 38 year military vetran, with 5 hostile fire tours (including 2 in the current conflict), I am glad to see someone, such as Mr McGovern stand up and say what many of us think.

Everyone, serving the people of the United States, takes the oath to "defend the constitution of the United States against all enimies, foreign and domestic". The current administration has violated our constitutional protections and laws, ignored rules of decency and international law, the the United States pushed for after World War II, and appears to consider the citizens as servents of the government rather than seeing the govenment as an instrument for consolidating the need of the people.

The need to have this group removed as the "legal" representation of our country needs to go through our representative and legal branches, prior to the end of the current governing cycle so the next (or more) administrations do not spend large amounts of time explaining our lack of backbone to the population and the rest of the world.

Brad   January 7th, 2008 6:54 am ET

I have to agree that both Bush and Chaney are guilty of impeachable offenses, especially where related to their oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. However the true failure in our country does not belong to them alone, it belongs to our electorate who put them and the cowardly congressional members in office. If we are going to be a strong nation we need to start by being strong and responsible citizens.

DRH Kinston, NC   January 7th, 2008 6:52 am ET

It does"nt speak to well of you folks willing to listen to a loser like Mc Govern.
I would be willing to bet most of you don't even know his record but are willing to jump on the wagon with him just because he speaks out against Bush.
Have any of you stop to think about all the things that were dumped on president Bush right after he took office? I do not recall in my almost 60 years another President that has had to fight the battles he has since day one.
Can you imagine the trouble we would be in if Al gore had been elected? We would probally have been taken over by another country by now.
It is time to be realistic and see that President Bush has kept us safe and prevented other attacks on us.
People let's grow up and act like responsible adults and give the President credit for what he had done for us. I am a registered Democrat and say Thank You to our Commander and Chief for a job well done.

DRH

John Reynozo   January 7th, 2008 6:51 am ET

I hate to mention this, but being incompetent is not grounds for impeachment, neither is being gullible.

What proof, that is concrete evidence, that the President lied, and in doing so violated a law (i.e. perjury)? Not liking a President's policies is not a reason for impeachment.

If you do not like the way the government has spent the tax dollars that you have sent, I think you need to look at congress as well since they are the ones who, in conjunction/agreement with the President, pass the federal budget every year.

By the way, having traveled to approximately 20 countries, including the Far East, Western and Eastern Europe, South and Central America, most people still love America and Americans. It is the only country in the world where you can come from anywhere and be adopted as an American (assuming you do so legally). I could live in France for 50 years and the French would never consider me a Frenchman, just as an example.

It has been my observation that the most hatred for America and Americans, not counting the Middle East who hate everybody (including themselves), comes from Americans.

Have a great day – Tony

Jeff Burke   January 7th, 2008 6:48 am ET

I wish McGovern could look this sullen and concerned over the slaying of millions of innocent unborn children.

Lee   January 7th, 2008 6:48 am ET

All you people who have commented sincerely scare me as an American. You want to impeach them because you do not like them, not because you have proof of anything. I have never, not once, in eight years seen any solid proof that either of them did anything illegal.
I love the fact that you turn and twist Iraq in any way that suits you. Was the war about oil? Yes, it was. It was about securing a vital resource to our nation. Like it or not, this nation revolves around the use of oil and if our oil goes away, so does our economy. If you think it is bad now, then imagine how it would be if Saddam Hussein was in control of about 30 to 50 percent of the world's oil and could simply turn it off. He tried that twice and failed thankfully. He was going to try again.
Securing that resource meant giving the people their a voice which Bush has done. I think it is truly disgusting that people say horrible things about Bush for giving people democracy. Is it perfect? No. Did he implement a plan well? Early on, no. Have lots of people died from infighting? Yes. Have things improved? Yes.
Finally, you say he is the worst president ever and that is your right to have that opinion, but back it up. He has helped keep our economy strong through 9/11 and multiple major national disasters. A strong economy does mean that people are getting rich, but that helps us all because good businesses that want to stay strong reinvest in things like their workers.
I know you are going to say that the economy is weak now and that is true. But remember, if you are going to say that the economy is weak now, you have to admit that it was strong at one point as well which means Bush helped it get that way.
Finally, you can disagree with me all you want, just try to do it without so much venom. Also, try to add some facts that back up your points more so they are more legitimate. Just because other people say the same thing you do does not make you legitimate.

Jeff Burke   January 7th, 2008 6:45 am ET

Where was McGovern when Bill Clinton was lying to congress? We all know that he was strangely silent. This is not a matter of conscience, but old line partisan politics as usual.

Renny Caldwell   January 7th, 2008 6:43 am ET

I want to see all the crimes laid out in detail, then go from there.

Jeff Burke   January 7th, 2008 6:42 am ET

The liberal democrats in this country have something in common with the radical muslim terrorists: they hate our President. Disagreeing with the President's policies is a matter of preference and I don't fault them for that. But hatred is dangerous and history has shown the suffering and oppression that can come from unbridled hatred.

Tom Smit   January 7th, 2008 6:36 am ET

George and Dick are an embarrassment to the entire world. Time after time after time after time they prove their stupidity. I just cannot believe we haven't impeached them yet. It has nothing to do with politics as some say and everything to do with abuse of power and ineptitude for the job.

Henry   January 7th, 2008 6:29 am ET

You are right but a tad late, George.

Honor, Courage, Intelligence, Statesmanship, and dedication to Constitutional Law has no place in American politics. Bush, Cheney and all their breathless supporters were given the Democratic Blessing when FEARLESS NANCY wiped the impeachment issue off the table.

This Nation is destined to drown in the rather unfragrant pit of self-indulgence. And for that end, we all can thank those folks, both past and present, that came forth from the same mold as Bush and Cheney.

Loren M. Fowler   January 7th, 2008 6:27 am ET

Only someone who is clearly out of touch would demand our president be impeached. Mr. McGovern should pick up a U.S. history book and read. Historically, this nation more times than not, has not had the stomach for war. Unfortunetely for us as a nation, too many people are still around from the Vietnam era. They remember the crap that went on and now think it's happening all over again. Unlike in Vietnam, the stakes are much higher in Iraq, and retreat is not a realistic option anymore. People tend to forget that all U.S. presidents, not just George W. Bush, but all presidents when making a decision to go to war or not, act on the intelligence that ia available at that time. Since when is it so startling that the C.I.A dropped the ball. Clearly, there was a breakdown in the intelligence that was coming over seas. President Bush did what he thought needed to be done. It bothers me also when the media only gives the people half the story. Everyday, we here a daily update of how many troops are killed in action, never a daily breifing on how many of the enemy is killed. No wonder 70% of the country wants out of Iraq. Someone tells you everyday about how many we lost, and nothing of the progress being made, you're going to get sick of hearing it. Lastly, the rights granted to soldiers of a foreign power under the Geneva agreement, in no way applys to terrorists. Terrorists' name by definition means scumbag. These dirtbags have no loyalty to one particular nation, therefore we should do what we need to do, to make sure Bin Laden is captured or killed, Al-Qaeda is broken, and the war won. Sincerely, Loren M. Fowler

Joan   January 7th, 2008 6:25 am ET

It's about time! We impeached Bill Clinton for telling a lie. We kicked out Nixon for his coverup. What are we waiting for re Bush and Cheney? They've repeatedly lied, covered up, and in their administration they've made every effort to destroy our country's reputation. The economy is in the tank, unemployment is rising, we're in a senseless war while our enemy publicly laughs in our faces. We need to kick them out of office now….BEFORE they start a third war….this time with Iran; even though they've already been proven wrong about that country too. Where is the courage of our Senate and House? Is that covered up as well??

gerd.vilardi   January 7th, 2008 6:23 am ET

Mc.Govern, in reality he sould retire in the border of Pakistan and Afganistan and drink Tee with the same people that feel like him, its a shame that we have people that use the little brain that they have to put our country down and all the good people in it. It does not matter if you are for or against the President, but to put mud on our country wehn good kids are given there lives and thank god that he newer was electet to that office, but you see, we do have a democracy, we have ewen nerds that can speek out, ewen with out brains. Mc.Govern, please return to your hole.

mark wilkes barre pa   January 7th, 2008 6:22 am ET

WAY TO FROTH UP THE TROOPS,,,,, Mr mooney,,,,,, All the haters and wacos will come out from under there rocks on this story,,,,,,, just when I thought it was going to be alright to get on with the future of our great nation,,, BAM ,, another " GOING NO – WHERE " Impeachment story designed to rally up dem candidate support,,,,, COME ON ,, REAL presidents ,,Ones that were actually elected ,, like Clinton and Carter have looked into the pssibility of impeachment have pressed the issue , investigated every avenue of hope for impeachment and come up short. Why is that Mr. Mooney,,,, If there was Real criminal merit above and beyond a shadow of doubt, like so many believe. These two great dem leaders and there powerful friends " IN THE KNOW " , would have found it, used it, and started the impeachment process long ago. This current administration is simply not that good at hiding things,, I believe we can all agree on that one fact, and that being said Would have slipped up, left a trail, or had some-one defect and spill the good stuff by now . all the finger pointing has to do with this war on terror, and in times of war under every past president things happened,,, by the day, by the minute,,, and not always good things,, war things,,,, war is hell, war is ugly , there is NO nice way to conduct a war,, there is only to WIN,,,,,,,, the only argue ment there is ,,,,is how we got to Iraq in my oppinion,,,,the facts of that will be sealed for fifty + years There was only a couple of no votes in congress not to go ahead with this war on terror after 9-11 ,,, that is what will stand in the way of impeachment on every issue on the war and BUSH WRONG DOINGS.

Joe   January 7th, 2008 6:20 am ET

Rhetoric and more rhetoric, lets face it "We the People" as a nation are complacent and have not joined together for change for decades. McGovern forgot to mention Rumsfield and Rove to complete the axis of evil with Cheney. Bush is a drunkin moron and a puppet dancing to whatever string daddy Bush wants to pull using his old advisors to perpetuate his old agendas.

Clemsy   January 7th, 2008 6:16 am ET

Of course those two should be impeached. Duh. I am, however, continually amazed at those who still think Bush and Cheney represent anything near the ideals of what America is supposed to mean. Their 'Amerika' is not mine.

Well, the Tory/Loyalists are about 30% of the population. The rest of us have to keep an eye on them from now on.

"It has long been said (ostensibly by Benjamin Franklin, but we can't be sure) that 'democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.'" ~Bill Moyers

Henry   January 7th, 2008 6:08 am ET

Poor George M.!

He just doesen't get it.

Honesty, courage, inteligence, Statesmanship, Honor and dedication to Constitutional law has no place in American politics. Bush, Cheney and all their panting supporters were given the Democratic Blessing when FEARLESS NANCY wiped the impeachment issue off the table.

You are right but a tad late George. This nation is destined to drown in the rather unfragrant pit of self-indulgence.

And for that end we can all thank folks, past and present, who were welped from the same mold as Bush and Cheney.

Bob   January 7th, 2008 6:06 am ET

It doesn't surprise me that those who oppose such an idea as impeachment of Bush and Cheney have made their argument for such opposition by saying that the accuser, McGovern simply isn't qualified to make such a statement. Well, neither am I, neither is the opposition and neither is anyone else who has posted a comment on this issue. The fact of the matter is, our government is broken, our congress and senate are not doing their jobs, and in the eyes of many Americans, neither is our president. If our government worked the way our forefathers meant it to work when they drew up our constitution, the American people would at least be given the opportunity to hear all of the evidence for and against the accusation of impeachment of our current president and vice president or any president and/or vice president for that matter. Should Bush and Cheney be impeached? I don't know if they SHOULD be but I do know that as I PERCEIVE their performance, I personally feel that our government should at least hear the evidence and our congress and senate should THEN make a decision based on that evidence. For our congressional leaders to simply say that impeachment is off the table is a slap in the face of every single American citizen. I would think that those who oppose impeachment should welcome impeachment proceedings so that the evidence could be heard and if innocent of the accusations, the president and vice president could be exonerated once and for all. This would also help to put the American people put at ease by knowing that our government works and cares enough to hear the evidence in the matter. The point is, it's not whether or not Bush and Cheney should be impeached, it's the fact that our government is broken and none of us will ever know if they really should have been impeached.

Bob Gray   January 7th, 2008 6:00 am ET

We are always putting blame to our president.

Remember when Bush didn't act right away after 9/11, we were ranting.

And now, we are ranting again because he did his best to save our country from more disaster.

So what?

hong kong, China   January 7th, 2008 5:58 am ET

i have wanted to b an american since cowboy days, now i am 55 over with 2mid-aged boys after 9/11 i asked them to enlist in the usa and help with dealing with their problem in afghan, my sons thought me crazy but they did think about it.
then 2003 another war?a wrong invasion?for oil?or whatever? the conspiracy for wealth had begun, with the lives of young americans who still think they r on the right track, the lies have led all astray, missing E mails, tapes, planes, tanks, documents and all the monies unacounted for, indict the whole bushclan the judges too. impeach clinton for lust? impeach bushclan a must.
lucky for me, my sons r still around.

John   January 7th, 2008 5:47 am ET

Easy to speak up when the country's opinion has changed to match your view. Wuss.

Andy, New York, New York   January 7th, 2008 5:43 am ET

Now that the Iraq war has turned in AMERICA'S favor, and the liberal and leftwing news media houses don't have the flow of negative news to churn out and make Bush horrible, CNN is leading the way with w statement from McGovern calling for Bush and Cheney to be impeached.

Not only does CNN know this is impossible, but that Bush and Cheney did not break any known laws, even with allegations of lying and violating the Constitution. Everything these men stemmed from 9-11. They were not perfect in executing strategy, but their mission was clear: PROTECT AMERICA and AMERCA'S INTEREST!

Hey, did you guys know that former NBA player and former New Jersey Senator, Bill Bradley, issued a statement this past weekend endorsing Obama? That's powerful stuff, but why isn't CNN bothering to make that an item on its TICKER? Well, that doesn't sell by generating people's anger against Bush and Cheney, even though people are more preoccupied with the candidadtes for 2008.

Talk about being a source of distraction, you have to wonder what is CNN's motive with this McGovern tripe?

ginger   January 7th, 2008 5:30 am ET

When was the talking points memo handed out to ya'll? What a bunch of sheep!
I wonder how many posters on this site even graduated from high school and understand how government works, the true balance of power and who knew what when all hell broke loose! The only knowledge they have is probably from School House Rock's "How a bill becomes a law"! Give me a break!

WS   January 7th, 2008 5:30 am ET

America is now, the new Rome.

Michael Cathcart   January 7th, 2008 5:29 am ET

While I agree in theory that they probably should be impeached, I tend to agree with Ron Paul on the subject that Impeachment is such a large step that you really have to have a full and open investigation prior to impeachment. Without such a step, a successful impeachment would likely be ridiculed as merely a "partisan" political step, and an unsuccessful attempt would be seen as a failed attempt by "partisan" democrats to oust a sitting Republican President.

With an investigation, as long as it is open and transparent for the most part whatever the decision, it would at least have some evidence and be researched.

Oregon writing from Malaysia   January 7th, 2008 5:28 am ET

I'm currently writing from KL, Malaysia and have been traveling India and SE Asia for at least several months and have become exhausted by all the questions asking why Bush, Dick, and Rummy haven't been charged with War Crimes and kicked out of office.

I'm tired of making excuses for the lack of action on the part of the Congress and Senate to impeach, which should have been done years ago.

As an insider, on the outside looking in, America looks terrible to the World and I'm ashamed of our politics – Its easier to tell people I'm Canadian and avoid the abuse thats destined to punish me.

Jim   January 7th, 2008 5:14 am ET

McGovern makes vague generalizations without specific legal charges. Most of the charges he makes in the article are political, not legal. Specifically:

* Having an unpopular war is not an impeachable offense;

* Having a poor federal response to a natural disaster is not an impeachable offense;

* Lying is not an impeachable offense, even when one is under oath at the time, for precedent caselaw, look at the impeachment trial of William J. Clinton;

* Elizabeth Holtzman is not the ultimate arbiter of justice in America, therefore violating the law in her opinion is not an impeachable offense;

* Taking military action without a declaration of war is clearly not an impeachable offense. If it were, McGovern should have called for the impeachment of every President since Carter;

* Having "clumsy, mistaken policies" is not an impeachable offense;

* Disagreeing with parts of one's own Administration and agreeing with other parts is not a high crime and misdeamanor;

* Suspending habeas corpus is not an impeachable offense – if it were, President Lincoln should have been impeached;

McGovern, like all other liberal Democrats who lay these ridiculous charges, wants to impeach Bush because he disagrees with him. This is an irresponsible and dangerous expansion of what should be a legal proceeding, not a political one.

If George McGovern had his way, disagreeing with him would be a crime; in fact, if people like Holtzman and McGovern had their way, simply being a Republican might be a crime. The nation would be vastly more damaged by the implementation of McGovern's recommendation than it has been by the Bush Administration. We must be a great nation by avoiding the kind of political persecution that McGovern recommends.

Indeed, this philosophy of McGovern and the radical left – that Bush should go on trial for his political beliefs – let's call it McGovernism. And as we call it that, let's remember another "ism" that operated along similar lines earlier in our history: McCarthyism. That's the basic path that McGovern is advising we follow, and it leads away from democracy and responsible governance, not towards it.

Ed Knowlton   January 7th, 2008 5:13 am ET

I couldn't agree more. We spent how many millions investigating Clinton for a real estate deal and his personal peccadilloes. This administration has cost the lives of how many? Clinton's errors didn't cost any lives, and yet we impeached him! McGovern is right. Congress is worried about the Armenian genocide; while Americans worry about health care, retirement, outsourcing, the cost of living, etc. Hello?!

I've thought often of Nathan Hale's purported comment at the time of his execution by the British that he "Regrets that he has but one life to give for his country." I can imagine Bush and Cheney thinking they regret that they have but thousands of other people's lives to give for getting their money. I grew up reading about the founding fathers and the true patriots who founded this country. Have we no people of great character left in America? I don't see any. One more year of Bush-Cheney – and then how many decades paying for what they have done to this country?

Sam IA   January 7th, 2008 5:11 am ET

It is wasted time and political capital to deal with this red herring. Obviously criminal wrongdoing on this administration's part would be a slam dunk but it would also be fodder for the rightwing leading up to the election. The minority party has dragged out every bill and played obstructioists at every turn and it would be better to point this out than to look as though you are going on a witchhunt. Leave that trash to the Republicans and the swiftboaters, It is what made them the minority party in the first place.

Teeno   January 7th, 2008 5:08 am ET

McGovern is right but a lonely voice, and lonely voices are rarely heard. Not enough statesmen, only politicians. There isn't enough courage or moral fortitude left and our modern Rome slips and slides on self-interest. The boldest stroke on the part of self-interest was to take down Dan Rather. We will eventually fall. But, for what its worth, McGovern is right.

RedSea Foreign National   January 7th, 2008 5:06 am ET

I think it is noy only the congress, senate, nor the republicans or democrats, but also the people. You and me! Does anyone know the process of impeachment? Starts in the congress who decides by majority if the president is impeached, then the senate makes the sentence. How many people have gatered together and put pressure on their congressman to start the impeachment process? Me myself have written to several congressmen and senators demanding the president is impeached. The only one who responded is Hillary Clinton, and I heard that she actually reads her mail and considers the views and ideas of people who write to her. Seems to be true, because she responded to me. But look people, I am only one person! This never results in much change. My husband keeps warning me to be careful or I can get in trouble, but I told him if anyone wants to join me I am not afraid to seak what I believe or that I can get in trouble. So people, please try to take some action and join together. The squeaky wheel gets oild, so if the congress, senate, democrats or republicans are not acting, then start putting pressure on them, start speaking up, and join together. If anyone is wonderring why it has taken so long, then start taking some action. Write to your congress and start putting pressure on your congressman. And if you want someone in office that is not afraid to stand up and take action, then son't look to Obama. He is nothing but a good motivational speaker, and only good for talk. If you want a candidate who is not afraid to take action and will listen to your views, then look to either Ron Paul, Huckabee, or Clinton. Regardless of democrat or republican, these are the three who can make change. I live in Egypt, so it is difficult for me to gather together with anyone, but if I lived in the States I would for sure be organizing groups. But I am doing my part from here by writing to congress and the senate.

Dellmae - Del Mar, CA   January 7th, 2008 5:05 am ET

Thank you Mr. McGovern. And praise for speaking openly. We must urge our Senate and House to see impeachment proceedings through to completion. Truth and Justice require it. And our people deserve it.

When the next president is inaugurated our nation should ask Halliburton to leave full time for the Emirates, not just move their main offices there, and discontinue their American business connections.

Do you think Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney are aware of how Americans really feel about them? The White House Press meetings are a farce; they assume all people watching can be fooled.

If it were not for this internet blog would you be talking to your neighbors about this situation? Many are afraid to speak openly. In San Diego the tv and radio and newspaper are controlled, they are one voice: supporting Mr. Bush. We need to act immediately. Our future requires it. They are after our net now. Impeachment Immediately! Please!!!

Rod   January 7th, 2008 4:59 am ET

Just wanted to thank George for his courage to say what needed to be said.

Michael   January 7th, 2008 4:53 am ET

How about crimes against humanity?

Gracey Knowle, Dallas   January 7th, 2008 4:51 am ET

Shame on you, CNN, for printing Steve Austin's comment (5.36pm, 1/6) about "time to get the country…out of the jews control". This is racist and distasteful, and, hopefully, not indicative of the views of either CNN, or the many other correspondents who have chosen to comment on this topic, either prior or subsequent to Mr. Austin.

Given the numbers of people across the world who have read this comment and may be dismayed by it, I suggest an apology and retraction would be in order.

Michael   January 7th, 2008 4:49 am ET

How about crimes against humanity? “Guilty “

Jon   January 7th, 2008 4:47 am ET

Ol' Georgie is getting senile, methinks. There's no reasonable case for impeachment here unless you're a left-wing Democrat who doesn't care about protecting this country and is ready to hand us over to the terrorists. Then impeaching a President in time of war for fictional crimes makes perfect sense.

WmSF   January 7th, 2008 4:41 am ET

Just for review, it should again be mentioned that during World War II, George McGovern served as a B-24 Liberator bomber pilot in the Fifteenth Air Force, flying 35 missions over enemy territory from bases in North Africa and later Italy, often against heavy anti-aircraft artillery. McGovern was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross… so he is a man very unlike Cheney or Bush.

WmSF, Reg.Army 1969-71, son on active duty USArmy

Gavin, Merrillville, Indiana   January 7th, 2008 4:36 am ET

Here's a better idea….

Get Superman to fly around the world backwards very fast to turn back time to the year 2000 and make sure we elect Gore decisively this time.

Elaine Suhre   January 7th, 2008 4:33 am ET

It is time the people of the United States stand up for themselves if our government/congress/senate isn't going to. It is time for Cheney and Bush to realize they don't have free license to toss our Constiution around and use or disregard it as they see fit. Make an example of them, show the powers that be they can't ignore the law, or the people who elected who elected them.

David   January 7th, 2008 4:29 am ET

What's so depressing is in spite of all we know about this administration, all the comments from childish, petulant, idiots Bush traitors, who have put loyalty to the GOP, and their own frail egos, above that of the nation. It's not patriotism. It's not supporting the troops or loving the country. It's belligerence and denial. Politics really IS personality. People support Bush & Cheney because they are LIKE Bush & Cheney. Sadly, about 30% of our country seem to be scoundrels. That's too many.

Vinnie From Indy   January 7th, 2008 4:23 am ET

LOL!

The illusion that the USA elects our leaders through fair and open elections is a myth. The fact is that our poltical systen has long ago been acquired by powerful corporate interests. The Bush Admin is just the most visible example of the collusion between gargantuan coprorate interests and government.

While I, and millions of other Americans, believe that Bush/Cheney should be impeached, it is very doubtful that it would ever happen.

Victor   January 7th, 2008 4:19 am ET

I agree wholeheartedly that Bush and Cheney should be impeached for their lies and deception tactics that led us into a totally senseless and unnecessary war which todate has caused the deaths of nearly 4000 U.S. Armed Forces men and women, over 30,000 wounded, over 1000 U.S. civilian contractors and at least one million Iraqi men, women and children. Not to mention the trillions of dollars it has cost and continues to cost our country. McCain is wrong when he states that the surge is working. It might be militarily, but not politically, which was the whole purpose of having the surge, according to Bush and Cheney. The Democrates in Congress and the Senate desperately need to rise up and start doing the peoples work. Hold Bush and Cheney accountable – It's the LAW!!!

Merrill L. Metzger   January 7th, 2008 4:17 am ET

Oh and I will say this also. They make claims of christianity ? Well then God say you might get away with your crimes by man but you will face the most to be feared someday, he will judge you and give you your just deserves for their sins. Remember God knows all and God Judges all ! AMEN

Stan Goodman   January 7th, 2008 4:16 am ET

George McGovern's run at the presidency was what caused me, a lifelong Democrat, to cast my first vote for a Republican candidate — for ANY office. My rationale was that, although I knew that Nixon was a crook, I had faith in the Constitution's ability to deal with crooks (and history has confirmed that faith). I did NOT have faith in the Constitution's ability to deal with a president's determination to give away the store. George McGovern is still the sap he was in 1972.

The war(s) in Iraq and Afghanistan were and are necessary and crucial, and people like McGovern (who appear to be a majority of the electorate, judging by the latest news from Iowa, Wyoming, and even New Hampshire), are in the process of bringing the US down to the level of a banana republic. That the press, in its obsessive hate for George Bush, eggs on the new isolationist trend is an exercise in irresponsibility.

What do Americans think was Saddam's motive in invading Kuwait, making war on Iran, and threatening the same for Saudia (together, proprietors of about half the petroleum on the planet)? Had he not been stopped, he would have been in a position to control the entire world economy, and with it the world order. Could any combination of states have confronted him then? How? Tanks and aircraft, if nobody has noticed, run on petroleum. And McGovern thinks trying to stop Saddam was impeachable?

John S   January 7th, 2008 4:12 am ET

Furthermore , where were all you dumb A's when 911 happened ? oh ,I know, you were all hoping for another attack on our nation or maybe you were hiding under a rock somewhere . Lives were lost , not just in New York but Washington D.C. and Penn. My hats off to the unselfish Americans That Gave and continue to Give there lives for Our Freedoms

Merrill L. Metzger   January 7th, 2008 4:11 am ET

And I so agree with you Mr. Mcgovern, it is about time that someone with some status said these words. I clap my hands for your courage to stand up and say these words. I could not ever agree any more.

chronic   January 7th, 2008 3:57 am ET

Ian wrote:
"McGovern is a draft dogging commie, and those are his best attributes. He is still trying to justify his failure to serve in the military."

He was a bomber pilot in WW2. So do tell, what have you done for your country?

By the way, Communists are no longer our enemies… they are now are trading partners and have the power to bring our economy to it's knees.

FreedomOfInformationAct   January 7th, 2008 3:56 am ET

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From The Declaration of Independence
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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

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Mike   January 7th, 2008 3:49 am ET

Wow. Still bitter from 72′… get over it McGovern.

John S   January 7th, 2008 3:46 am ET

It's ignorrant people like Mcgovern that has destroyed our reputation with other nations .I seem to remember when it was considered treason to speak against our contries war efforts McGovern is no better than the islamic extremist that have become part of the alquida groups .some people tend to forget they can live anywhere they so choose go live in Iraq , for you seem to support them more than any True Blooded American would .Any body that does not support Our troops including all theses so-called presidential candidates(Clinton Obama and the list goes on ) should be made to leave our FREE country and live in a third world country

Humpty   January 7th, 2008 3:34 am ET

George McGovern… a loony in 72 and today. Like it or not we are in this war, like it or not, we are actually winning it (gasp). George McGovern should be quiet and go back to whatever corner he has been hiding in for the last 35 years. Thank you…

tofuhair   January 7th, 2008 3:33 am ET

I absolutely agree with McGovern. I visit China often and their view on America just sucks ass ever since Bush came along. Bush is by far the worst president America ever had, if not in a long time.

Kevin   January 7th, 2008 3:32 am ET

Where are the Asa Hutchinsons now (Its not about sex, its about lying!!), or Henry Hydes (What are we showing our children?) during Clintons impeachment fiasco.

This administration and their pals have repeatedly lied and lied about every policy initiative. They have defrauded and plundered the treasury, shovelled billions to their cronies and have bankrupted the country. Destroying every ounce of American prestige developed over the last 200 years, this sinister group of ugly Americans running this administration, have caused untold misery for the future generations of Americans. Dropping bombs on wedding parties in Iraq and Afghanistan, they have wrecked any semblance of sanity in world affairs and made America a PARIAH in the eyes of the world.

Nik Green   January 7th, 2008 3:22 am ET

Cheney demonstrably lied to the 9/11 Commission: he told the Commission that he didn't get to the PEOC until half an hour after he was actually there, according to several witnesses including former Transportation Sec. Norman Mineta. Firstly, lying to federal investigators is an impeachable act. Secondly, why would Cheney need to lie about his whereabouts that morning, especially when he knew that a rogue plane was about to slam into the Pentagon, as recounted by Mineta.

margaret dennis   January 7th, 2008 3:21 am ET

I have never heard anything more disgusting than the democrats debate. It certainly was all the men against Hillary. I don't know how those men are feeling now but I hope they are ashamed of themselves. I would never vote for Edwards, Obama or Richardson after that performance. By the way, I am wondering why Edwards and Richardson are getting so warm and fuzzy around Obama. Do they think he is going to be our next president and they want to be first in line for positions? Never happen boys.

Weezie le Strain   January 7th, 2008 3:17 am ET

The people writing in defense of Bush, or those attacking McGovern are consistently the most ignorant, benighted, and hateful people on this blog – like the evil Republicans they are hypnotized to support. They lack knowledge, facts, insight, education, and intelligence. They do have emotion – ugly, low, violent, and abysmally ignorant – which leads them to attack the good, the humane, and the intelligent, and to blindly support the demagogues their minds are controlled by, such as Bush, Cheney et al.

Fear is the emotion that rules them, and a lack of self-esteem, based on their inability to think for themselves. They are the products of Hate Radio – Limbaugh and his cowardly, vicious ilk – and their weak minds make them dupes to televised and broadcast rightwing propaganda spewed out by corporate media forces aligned with Bush and his genocidal policies. They would be happier in Nazi Germany than in a democratic republic supposed governed by a Constitution.

While most current Democrats are cowardly weasels who are facilitators of the evil Bush, and therefore criminals in their own right, McGovern and Carter are not. They should both be heros to all Americans. They are role models – thinking, caring, experienced, and mostly humane leaders.

M J Love   January 7th, 2008 3:13 am ET

A day late and dollar short old George. Bush has already done irreparable hard to our country and the world. Impeachment to too good for him.

Tejano Tater   January 7th, 2008 3:10 am ET

Mc Govern. Please take Jihad Jane Fonda-Money, and Cindy ShiiteHand Fonda-Money with you to Can'tUhDuh, eh. Also please take da good Dennis Kucinich, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid wid you also, eh. They love dose types up dere, eh. Oui. Jus you go on up dere to da Hate White Nord eh. Dose goot Canadiene lov you long time McGovern. Eh. Oui.

To Can'tUhDuh wid luv, eh. Viva Le Can'tUhDuh!!!!

Michael   January 7th, 2008 3:04 am ET

carry out the impeachment case already!! its extremely overdue!

mike kaplan   January 7th, 2008 3:03 am ET

Compared to Bill Clinton's alleged offense (lying about a matter that was never the nation's business), Bush and Cheney are a thousand times more deserving of impeachment. They have done immeasurable damage to our country, damage that will take many years to rectify. They have vandalized the Constitution, and dragged America's most cherished ideals through the mud for all the world to see.

And, ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR THEM ARE GUILTY TOO, especially THOSE OF YOU WHO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THESE LIARS EVEN TODAY. In your defense of Bush and Cheney in the face of their long list of misdeeds, I hear your guilty conscience talking.

Dan   January 7th, 2008 3:00 am ET

if you are so worried about the current admin, why don't so start worring about
the next one, if Obama gets elected then that will be like opening adoor for muslim
extremeist to come at the U.S. again and again. The American people need to
stop and think real hard about who they vote for and who is behind the person
they are voting for.

diane b   January 7th, 2008 3:00 am ET

Yes, Yes, Yes please impeach Bush and Cheney!

Ross Lippincott; Davenport Iowa.   January 7th, 2008 3:00 am ET

This is a question for CNN.
Why does it take so long for my posts to be moderated?

jimbo   January 7th, 2008 3:00 am ET

I have to agree with someone else here who questioned why others haven't publicly mentioned impeachment. I know Pelosi said she wouldn't seek impeachment when she got into office. And I wonder why? In 2006 the democrats were given a chance to shut down the Bush administration and nothing has happened. No significant investigations, no funding cuts, nothing. Almost makes you wonder if the Democrats aren't just the minority branch of the Republican party. Bush and Cheney definitely need to be brought to justice and impeachment isn't strong enough. But since the president holds the attorney general's career in his hands nothing will be done. My advice is get out and vote everybody who has been complicit with Bush and his cronies out of office.

Roci   January 7th, 2008 2:55 am ET

History once again proves its value. It requires wisdom from the First Republican Commander-in-Chief to frame the malfeasance and hypocrisy of the current, sorry leadership of this nation. Lincoln was a complex man who understood the basic values of compassion, sacrifice, and principal. He was, in short, simple, and yet profound words, everything that an American leader should be.
We would do well to remind ourselves of the classic proverb that deals with history. Today, avarice, greed, and blind stupidity has supplanted every value set forth by Lincoln, and nearly the entire value set of the American nation as a whole. In their shortsighted, mean-spirited arrogance, the current generation of American political leaders have forgotten history. What they have also forgotten, is that along with themselves, they are dooming a nation to relive that history.
So long as those who lead set themselves up on high, above even the principles upon which this nation has been founded, the people whose liberty they have been charged to preserve shall continue to pay a terrible price.
Let us remember Lincoln's inaugural address of 1864, wherein he spoke the greatest summation of the American character that has ever been uttered. America's current leadership has forgotten that speech, as well as the character of the man who spoke to history in that address.
The American people need to remember it now, more than ever before.

Roci

ChuckG   January 7th, 2008 2:54 am ET

Of course they should be impeached but we all know it won't happen.
what does blow my mind is the Faux News crowd who will swallow the kool-aid about these crooks.
Chuck

P.S. Have you ever noticed that when Republitards post here there are usually numerous spelling and gramatical errors.
I don't think some of them turn the pages very fast if you know what I mean

Steve Nelson   January 7th, 2008 2:54 am ET

I am glad to see some one, in the upper crust of the American government finally go public about the crimminals than are ruining this wonderful country. Unfortunately it is a little late, seven years to late. Bush and his gang should have been imprisoned when they corrupted the Florida elections. I f the normal man on the street had committted the crimes that these crooks have committed they would be in a maximum security facing a firing squad for comitting acts of treason. It maybe too late for impeachment, but they still can be tried for treason. The crimes that have been comitted fall under the same category as Sadam, Hitler, and all other power, money hungry dictators. All I can say is remember the Tea Party..

werther   January 7th, 2008 2:53 am ET

McGovern and other emotional fools are the reason the Republican Party will win the next election hands down. They cannot stop showing the world just how smart they are and how uninformed we are. The emotionaly immature leadership of the party known as the democratic party are ufo types and conspiracy theorists. Tell the ol fool Mcgovern to take his pill.

Eric   January 7th, 2008 2:52 am ET

In all the e-mails supporting Mr.Bush and His V.P. I have not heard a one give a good reason why America should NOT impeach these so called….men.. They have instead attacked Mr. McGovern…But fail to address his words….Why ? Maybe they know in there harts that what this Man has stated…….IS TRUTH… They find solice in demeaning the man…….Call him stupid or a failer or Marxist….yet keep missing what Mr. McGovern has stated . We are a nation (or used to be) where a man could be taken at there WORD and that has meaning… Have we gone so far that simply slandering the man behind an idea changes the reality of what he said ? How sad America…because if that is true…..we are no longer a FREE nation because the document that out Nation is founded on is comprised of WORDS ….and thoes WORDS FORM IDEAS AND THE IDEA IS WHAT ………..WE……….STAND…..FOR !!!

WE THE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some just don't like the truth……they crave the lie because it makes them feel
SAFE………Im tired of being fed fear by this Administration..Stand up straight America….we must face WHO WE ARE……

WE THE PEOPLE…….

Thanks Mr. McGovern………..the past can always teach the present about the future……….

Eric

Dan   January 7th, 2008 2:48 am ET

Make sure to check this analysis of Clinton's downward spiral, as she clearly looks to be in very big trouble especially as her own advisers are now quoted as saying that South Carolina is lost for good.

Michael Guinn, Port Hueneme, CA   January 7th, 2008 2:45 am ET

Keep at em George! You were right in 72 and you're right now!

Paul Shudick-   January 7th, 2008 2:45 am ET

I agree whole heartedly with the Senator. Never in my 61 years have I seen such arrogance in a president or an administration. I cannot express the shame I feel
towards my country. I cannot watch newscasts of the 911 events. This country is so close to having a second American Revolution it's not funny. What Nixon did is nothing compared to what this cowboy from Texas has done to America. Something has got to be done to break the strangle hold the corporations have over our constitution. RIGHT-ON GEORGE!!!!!!! Did I mention that Saudia Arabia is the country that we should have bombed into a glass factory subsequent to the 911 attacks. I actually hate those people with a passion.
Semper Fi

Ann   January 7th, 2008 2:43 am ET

Okay, CNN, where's my comment? You are becoming more childish every day.

Lee Egg Harbor NJ   January 7th, 2008 2:42 am ET

When you take a look at the Rush Limbaugh/Fox News talking points the Bush treason defenders are using, you realize that they are treason enablers.

This country is not an organic being, It is more than a collection of people or a geographic area but rather it is a society organized around a system of laws, with no one above the law, and with the Constitution of the United States as the supreme law of the land.

Every offense against the constitution, be it a "signing statement", disregard of congressional subpeonas and the destruction or 'loss" of documents, or plain disregard of laws (like The FISA act) and then the attempt to get retroactive immunities for breaking the law, is an offense at the very core of this country, the Constitution.

To systematically undermine the laws of the land and the Constitutional system is pure treason. Those that defend this, including the treason defenders here and on
republican propaganda organs are treason enablers. We have to root them out of positions of power and influence at all levels, much like fascists were purged from many european socities after WW2. They have been a growing cancer upon America and have been engaged in unprincipled "jihad" against us for some time.

It's time we noticed and deal with the danger. It many ways it's already too late.

Amuel   January 7th, 2008 2:38 am ET

Well, impeachment has merit. Bush is hardly the first president to pull stunts that were not fully legit. He has a vision, a method it is just that he cuts his margins too thin in order to try to get approval for his policies. He has people coming after him that will approve those thin margins just to watch him fail. If he is impeached they should stand next to him at the firing grounds. Say in iraq several demoncrats went along with the policy just to hang him later. John kerry and Senator Clinton are guilty of this.

I support bush. I have agreed with him on most points, even the reasons why he lied. Presidents often use rhetoric that may not be totally correct.
The iraq war, what went wrong was he went to cognress with a request for 300 thousand troops, it was denied. 200 thousand, denied, 144 thousand, approved, after all who would taken over an islamic country