January 7, 2008
Posted: January 7th, 2008 09:40 AM ET
Watch Ron Paul on CNN's American Morrning Monday.

Watch Ron Paul on CNN's American Morning Monday.

(CNN) - Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is striking back at Fox News for excluding him from Sunday’s Republican primary debate in New Hampshire.

“I think this is an awful embarrassment for Fox to do something like this,” says Paul. “I think they are making a mockery of the whole situation and I think they are going to suffer for it quite frankly because they’ve lost all credibility.”

Paul registered 10 percent support in the CNN/WMUR poll of the state’s GOP voters released this weekend – putting him in a statistical tie for third with Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani – and says this support should have secured him a spot in the debate, along with the fact that his campaign “raised more money than any other candidate on the Republican side in the last quarter.”

American Morning anchor Kiran Chetry gave Ron Paul a chance Monday morning to respond to some of the issues raised in Sunday night’s debate.

– CNN’s Emily Sherman

Filed under: Ron Paul


voiceofthepeople   January 18th, 2008 12:30 am ET

FOX NEWS reportedly deleted Ron Paul’s key debate response from the last debate in a LIVE REBROADCAST they recently aired. How is it a LIVE REBROADCAST if you splice out that which you don’t want the voting public to hear? Like Ron Paul or not, this should disturb you in my humble opinion.

CAMERON: Congressman Paul, yet another question about electability.
Do you have any, sir? There’s always the question as to whether or not…
(LAUGHTER)
… you are, in fact, viable. Your differences with the Republicans on the — with the rest of the Republi-cans on this stage has raised questions about whether or not you can actually win the Republican nomi-nation, sir.
PAUL: Well, we’ve only had two little primaries so far. So it’s pretty premature to decide which one is going to be the candidate.
But, you know, when you think about it, if you measured everything I’ve ever said, every vote I’ve ever taken against the Constitution, you know, I’m a strict constitutionalist.
Are you suggesting the Republicans should write me off because I’m a strict constitutionalist? I’m the most conservative member here. I have voted, you know, against more spending and waste in govern-ment than anybody else.
(APPLAUSE)
So you’re suggesting that I’m not electable and the Republicans don’t want me because I’m a strict fiscal conservative, because I believe in civil liberties? Why should we not be defending civil liberties and why should we not be talking about foreign policy that used to be the part of the Republican Party?
PAUL: Mr. Republican Robert Taft didn’t even want us to be in NATO and you’re saying now that we have to continue to borrow money from China to finance this empire that we can’t afford?
Let me see if I get this right. We need to borrow $10 billion from China, and then we give it to Mushar-raf, who is a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government. And then we go to war, we lose all these lives promoting democracy in Iraq. I mean, what’s going on here?
(APPLAUSE)
And you’re saying that this isn’t appealing to Republicans? Where did this come about? I think this is the Republican message. I defend the platform. It used to say we’d (inaudible) the Department of Education. It doesn’t say that now.
We, as Republicans, went and doubled the size of the Department of Education, so where have we gone? I think we’ve lost our way. And then the insinuation that I am less Republican because of that?
HUME: Congressman, thank you very much.

In response, the official Ron Paul 2008 Campaign blog asks,

“…how could any semi-reputable news source cut a presidential candidate’s answer in a debate? And how could a network that hundreds of thousands of conservatives trust delete the most forcefully conservative, Constitutionalist, anti-statist answer that any candidate gave that night?”

Ozzy   January 16th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Per this comment
"Did anyone ever see V for Vendetta? Doesn't Ron Paul look like the crazy dictator guy in that movie? Scary!"

I think Ron Paul looks more like Gandalf from the Lord of the Rings.
Give Gandalf a shave and a haircut and it's Ron Paul.

Paul knows the Federal Reserve is corrupt and will corrupt any who try to wield it.

Thats why he wants to destroy it and replace it with a sane monetary policy. The gold standard.

Cody Harding   January 9th, 2008 11:40 am ET

OK, time to take the soapboxes from the children. It's time to listen in to the truth:

Ron Paul will ruin this country if elected. He has shown over the various debates that when asked a straightforward question, he buckles and retreats under his own flawed arguments. Gold standard, elimination of NAFTA, removal from the WTO, OPEC, UN, and NATO...

Do I really need to go on?

As for Fox News: Sure, they're a bunch of decietful conservatives who wish to blind and subvert the people from the truth using their biased opinions. Yes, they are usually wrong on many different accounts. However, they had a limited amount of space, which was 5 candidates. So, they chose the top 5 at the time.

If they conducted it now, Paul would have edged out Guiliani for the seat. But when the forum was announced, Guiliani led him by a margin of points.

Their refusal to let Ron Paul on the forum, due to space constraints, was about the only Fair and Balanced thing they have ever done.

No More Fox   January 8th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Dr. Paul,

I have blocked Fixed Fox News and Fox's other stations on my cable. It's easy to do; just block Fox Fixed News the same way you block any other inappropriate, disgusting channel.

Fixed News(aka fox news) is always talking about "fair and balanced."
HA HA HA. Only Fixed News would be so biased and partisan and still claim to be either fair or balanced.

NO MORE FOX IN MY HOME.

Todd   January 8th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

I normally vote democratic, but I've been trying to get more info on Ron Paul. It does seem that some networks are denying this guy anytime to get supporters. There must be some motive to this considering he is a Congressman. Maybe he doesn't support issues that Fox doesn't want to be put to rest. If he were president I don't think we would be in Iraq; so what would Fox news have to put on the air for news, nothing. That's why they denied him publicity. They are making a mockery of our political system and they should be punished in a legal way. If not punished they should have another debate were Ron Paul get a chance to battle it out. If our choices of politicians is now decided by corporations then I do think it might be time to change things in United States.

MaryS   January 8th, 2008 9:26 am ET

Ron Paul has my vote. Give me back my Constitutional freedoms! I am sick of the government (and FOX news) deciding what is in my best interest. I am perfectly capable of determining what I chose to eat, drink, drive, watch, attend etc… and really don’t need a government “sin” tax, regulation or mandate to protect me. Government employment grows while the national economy suffers. It takes vast numbers of government employees to enforce an ever growing number of government rules and regulations. Has anyone stopped to consider that when the government is waging a “war” on domestic issues like drugs, gun violence, and poverty, that the government is waging a war against its own citizens? It is time to stop supporting this dangerous self perpetuating government growth. Our Homeland Security measures scare me more than the threat of terrorist violence. Ron Paul is the only candidate who proposes significant changes that may result in a return to a less invasive more effective government.” Government exists to protect liberty, not to redistribute wealth or to grant special privileges. The lives and actions of people are their own responsibility, not the government's." - The Ron Paul Freedom Principles

douglas bickford k.falls oregon   January 8th, 2008 6:39 am ET

Whether you like him or not Ron Paul is the only candidate that wants to return this Great Country to the Constitution. None of them will dare touch the things he is going to do because they will lose their credibility.

The IRS and Federal Reserve are 2 things the founding fathers never wanted for WE the People.

If the current adminstration ie Bush/Clintons REMAIN or any other of these so-called presidential candidates win we won't have to worry about an elections BECAUSE they will nuke Iran because of 911.

For all you bush/clinton lovers out there here is a quote from Bush Sr. this is how he feels about us!

The American People, The BUD People, The Broke Useless and Depressed. We are the MPBs, Money, Power and Brains. As long as we keep food on the BUDSTERS tables, a roof over their heads, a car in their driveway and gas in their gas tanks to go to and from work. We can keep the BUDSTERS at bay.–President George H. W. Bush

Vote Ron Paul!
2008

Douglas Bickford
K.Falls, Oregon
I believe in the Great Spirit and he has CHOSEN RON PAUL as next President of this Great Country!

Louis Nardozi   January 7th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

When you're filling your car with $3 gas and buying some $2.65 a dozen eggs, remember who is running on stopping deficit spending. The war for oil is what caused prices for anything that eats grain to skyrocket. When THOSE prices rise, the fresh fruit seller raises his prices again, now you have some nice $5 a pound grapes in the market. Laugh all you want, it's YOUR money being spent. YOU'RE the one going to pay $250 a week for groceries. Still think Ron Paul sounds like a bad idea? He's the ONLY candidate, Republican or Democrat that is running on reducing your cost of living. Maybe you have plenty money. Me, I'm not so rich.

Jose Card - Independent   January 7th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Anybody that underestimates Dr. Ron Paul's following will be sorry for making a fool of themselves. Ron Paul is making history as we speak. FOX and CNN's unfair reporting or no reporting on Dr. Ron Paul is damaging to themselves.

CNN just added another story on Hillary and squeezed this story out of CNN's politicalticker page tonight. CNN is relentlessly trying to make Queen Hillary. They will fail miserably.

Immigrant   January 7th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Ron Paul is really the only candidate for change. He's also the only conservative Republican running against about 10 democrats ranging from socialist democrat (Obama) to moderate democrat(Romney/McCain/Huckabee). He's the ONLY true Republican in the race and he defaults to the constitution....either you have the capacity to understand the constitution and real conservatism or you don't its just really that simple. Paul is the only one for small government......having soldiers in 130 countries does not equal small. This country can either get back on track with Paul on the constitution or head towards socialism....its a pretty simple choice....if indeed Americans can handle their own constitution. At this point a vote against Ron Paul is a vote FOR the socialist democrats, the fringe republicans like Romney and Giuliani lost the midterm elections because of their ideas of big government, and high irresponsible spending and they will lose the presidency if they use that same rhetoric. Paul is the only one that can pull votes away from the democrats....thats just how it is.

I am a black Republican voter by the way.

Mike, Atlanta   January 7th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Saul from Austin,

I'm not suggesting that the Republic be run according to my whims, or yours either. The system we have elects people who then impose policies, regardless of what the Constitution says. They do what they have to do to get the job done. Even the Founders, after they were in Congress and the Presidency, passed legislation that was of questionable constitutional origin (again, the Alien and Sedition Act). They did this to protect the country from harmful political speech during a time of war. Even Washington crushed a rebellion of farmers who were upset at taxation. None of these guys actually followed the Constitution. Fast-forward to the Great Depression. FDR (a democrat) undeniably violated the Constitution in order to save the country from an economic depression. Various presidents of both parties, elected by the majority of the country, have expanded and promoted the War on Drugs (also unconstitutional since Prohibition required an Amendment) to protect society from the evils of drug use. Clinton sent troops into various parts of the world with vast American support but without an "official" declaration of war. Bush has done the same thing.

My point is that every president and congress we've had has, shall we say, stretched the Constitution a bit. Sometimes it is unnecessary but sometimes it is needed. This is one of those times. We need a strong leader (i.e., Giuliani – Mayor during 9/11) to protect us from Islamo-Fascism. And I don't care what tactics he has to use to get the job done. Unsavory tactics helped clean up NYC, and while some might complain about the tactics he will use as president, nobody will complain about being attacked by terrorists on his watch.

Rudy 2008.

Gregory Richards   January 7th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Looks like CNN will have another viewer as I will no longer watch Foxnews ever again!

As a life long registered republican, I will be sad to see them go.

This US Army Veteran will be voting for Ron Paul!

Duncan, Richmond, VA   January 7th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

"I'm sick of hearing people cite to the Constitution like its the word of God. That piece of paper was written over two hundred years ago" – Mike

Mike, It is not the word of God, it is the LAW. If you want to change it, then there are methods available within it to do so. During the debates and forums, I have realized just how many people there are out there like you.. and that is why this country is doomed.

steven   January 7th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I make my kids watch FOX news when I want to keep them occupied. All they need now is a juggling act between O'Rielly and Hannity.

Ron Paul Supporter   January 7th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

Boo hiss, Fox... vote Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!

Chris in Silicon Valley   January 7th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

As I see more of Dr. Paul, I am amazed at his candor and politeness. I am not sure I could go up against some of the things he does and not lose my cool. For all the talk of Mike Huckabee's affability, I am surprised Paul does not get more credit here. (Popular election of the President does have some "charm" criteria, as Huck has shown everybody). Though no one ever mentions it, Dr. Paul does have a certain presence – not an actor, not a polished PR man, not an empty rhetoric mouthpiece. Rather, it is a smart, brave, deeply concerned man - a man who lets the fiery darts of insult and grandstanding just bounce off him - a doctor with a deep understanding of America's sickness and a good bedside manner. I love watching him speak.

Mike S   January 7th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

It will be interesting to see how FOX spins their demise.

Anonymous, Upstate, NY   January 7th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Um yeah. Just b/c RON PAUL says it doesn't mean it's 'all-of-a-sudden a brand new idea'. Bingo! Fox News has NEVER EVER EVER had an ounce of credibility. Never. This just in: Fox News is crazy. Go Barack.

Jeremy   January 7th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Ron Paul is on to something here. You can tell by how badly Fox wants to exclude him. Revolutionaries are always considered dangerous, but I'm convinced this revolution is the last best hope for America.

kellyk   January 7th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

It appears that the focus is on Hillary and Barak. Why so little about John Edwards? He is my choice for presisdent . He is very much in the race and I do not understand why he gets so LITTLE coverage from the press. All I hear is that Hillary got emotional. WHO CARES!!! Let's hear about everybody in the race and there ideas, not just the sensational moments of the day

saul, austin tx   January 7th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

Mike from Atlanta:

So how do you suggest we run the Republic - according to you? To W? To me? You want to re-invent the Republic, again, based on what, on fear? You love life so much that you will become a slave for it? I guess that's your choice in a free Republic. I for one, choose differently - how about it, the rest of y'all?

Live free or die.

Jose Card - Independent   January 7th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

In today's world, nobody should trust any news media or online information 100%.
You always have to think through what you have read or heard.
In other words, trust no one till you verify the information yourself.

Ron Paul and McCain are two trustworthy candidates in the Republican league.
After the election, the candidate is out of your control so you must be able to trust him or her when you cast the vote.

Kristi Gilleland   January 7th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

Fox is really looking bad, with O'Reilly pushing and cussing the Obama aide and then excluding a candidate that just came in #1 in the NH straw polls according to Reuters?

They don't like him – he is not establishment same old Coke or Pepsi.

Glenn   January 7th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

God Help America

Tim, Minnesota   January 7th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

Those other republican candidates can't hold a candle to Ron Paul.

They want to kill all Muslims like they did the Indians. Ron Paul is sane, we are all humans, stop the killing.

Matt   January 7th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Ron Paul is the most googled candidate! Learn about Ron Paul!

Matt   January 7th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Its time the people found out that the federal reserve is a FRAUD. Listen to Ron Paul and LEARN!

FACT- He is the most googled candidate!

why isnt THAT reported?!?!

Sean CA   January 7th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

when did Fox "news" even have credibility?

DannY C TN   January 7th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

YOU TELL EM PAUL. TO HELL WITH FOX AND THEIR PROPAGANDA B.S. MANY FELLOW FREEDOM FIGHTERS SUCH AS MYSELF SUPPORT YOU. THANKS CNN FOR EVEN MENTIONING PAUL AGAIN. MORE THAN FAUX CAN SAY. PEACE TO YOU ALL EVEN THE SHEEP.

Bill, Streamwood, IL   January 7th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Ron Paul is incorrect.

The people who own and run Fox news are laughing all the way to the bank as they provide entertainment, not news, to their audience.

It is the people who watch Fox News who suffer. I know, I tried it two years ago for three days. My IQ still isn't what it used to be.

Mike, Atlanta   January 7th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Saul from Austin,

I'm sick of hearing people cite to the Constitution like its the word of God. That piece of paper was written over two hundred years ago when our country was protected by vast oceans and our economy was based on agriculture. We're a superpower now with vast responsibilities across the world and with vast threats from Islamo-Fascism. Rigidly locking ourselves into a governmental framework that was designed for a completely different world (and not even adhered to then – see the Alien and Sedition Act) is idiotic. I'd much rather have our government do what it takes to protect us then to die clutching a copy of the constitution. We live in a different world and we need a different kind of leadership to handle the threats we face. We're not fighting the redcoats anymore.

Rudy 2008!!!

Tracey   January 7th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

FYI
When media decide to discount or exclude any candidate from a debate or forum they are committing voter fraud. By not showing each candidate they are not showing all the choices available to us. People that don't do research on their own will never know about the other candidates. This in turn is rigging the voting. They are only giving us certain candidates to chose from.

The media, saying they are freedom of speech, are doing an awful lot to silence these candidates. Wake up everyone. This is WRONG!

Eric, from THE Republic of Texas   January 7th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

On a related note, washed-up one-time presidential candidate Ross Perot said he was "madder than a hatful of hornets" that he also didn't get airtime on Fox.

Puh-leaze folks... even if Fox had allowed "the great Doctor Paul" (whose mere name invokes oohs and ahhs of his wide-eyed cult followers... think three-eyed aliens from the movie "Toys") to appear on the debate panel, I doubt any of you self-important, highly "enlightened" "progressives" would lower yourselves to bother tuning in.

scotty from texas   January 7th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

of course bush and chaney should be impeached and then be tried for treason.as well as any other cfr member should be tried for treason also.

Craig   January 7th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

"For whatever reason Fox has decided that a anti-war republican is not in the best interests of the corporation or its shareholders. So of course they excluded Paul. They also didn't hold a debate for the Democrats, probably for similar reasons."

Fox certainly has the right to invite whichever candidates they want - that's not the issue here. The issue is their lack of journalistic integrity, portraying the five candidates invited as the top five Republicans when there is a lot of contradictory, objective evidence that they are wrong - fundraising numbers, volunteer activism, Iowa caucus results, and New Hampshire polling numbers.

The New Hampshire Republican Party actually removed its co-sponsorship from the forum, because they didn't think it was fair to include five major candidates while excluding two others (Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter.) The New Hampshire Republican Party has integrity; Fox News does not.

And by the way, Fox News did plan on having a Democratic debate earlier this year, but the Democratic candidates decided to pass up the "opportunity".

Anonymous   January 7th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

"For whatever reason Fox has decided that a anti-war republican is not in the best interests of the corporation or its shareholders. So of course they excluded Paul. They also didn't hold a debate for the Democrats, probably for similar reasons."

Fox certainly has the right to invite whichever candidates they want - that's not the issue here. The issue is their lack of journalistic integrity, portraying the five candidates invited as the top five Republicans when there is a lot of contradictory, objective evidence that they are wrong - fundraising numbers, volunteer activism, Iowa caucus results, and New Hampshire polling numbers.

The New Hampshire Republican Party actually removed its co-sponsorship from the forum, because they didn't think it was fair to include five major candidates while excluding two others (Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter.) The New Hampshire Republican Party has integrity; Fox News does not.

And by the way, Fox News did plan on having a Democratic debate earlier this year, but the Democratic candidates decided to pass up the "opportunity".

saul, austin, tx   January 7th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

It's amazing to see the ignorance of many here. Asserting that Dr. Paul will not have a clue of how to run the country, for example. As if W and company have done such a stellar job. Accusing him of not knowing the "real world" without, apparently, pausing to ask why in the "real world" the American people have to apy to have military bases in every conceivable place on the planet and play policeman to a world that doesnt want us policing them - all this while we struggle to educate, care for the children, and maintain the infrastructure of our own communities. Exactly what "real world" is it where this makes sense. People dont even bother to pay attention, accusing Dr. Paul of backing a welfare state (?!) - have these folks actually listened to one complete paragraph that Dr. Paul has said before they pontificate on their conception of the "real world"? Neocons - you're time is up. If not this election, then within the next few years. Hope you enjoyed the ride. For your efforts, you get the condemnation of history, which has already begun. Congratulations. God save the Constitution and the United States.

Duncan, Richmond, VA   January 7th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

"Health care for profit has failed. Some government regulation is necessary. And the more you make, the more you owe society, so you should pay more taxes than the rest of us. Does that make me a liberal or a progressive?" – Bill

No Bill, it makes you a Canadian. I suggest you read something called the US Constitution. People should not have to pay more in taxes just because they earn more money.

Mike, Atlanta   January 7th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Terry from El Paso,

What you fail to realize is that corporations only have a voice via people. A corporation is controlled by the directors who are voted in by shareholders. For public companies, anyone can be a shareholder – including employees and customers. So anyone who can purchase the shares can have a voice. It's like democracy with the addition of potential monetary dividends.

And besides, while you think the neo-cons only care about corporations it's clear that the democrats only care about unions. Only labor organizations get a say in the democrats world, with anyone who isn't in a union having to pay the price.

So take your pick – corrupt unions (which historically have been very unfriendly to minorities – I guess this is the older better world you were referring to) or a corporation where anyone can have a say if they own a share? Unless you're going to waste your vote on a 3rd party or a fringe candidate like Kucinich or Paul?

jeff   January 7th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the legal FCC framework that governs the responsibilities of a cable network news channel, but at what point does the intentional manipulation of factual information, purposely intended to adversely influence or alter mass perception become a criminal act?
In addition to this recent affront, Fox has also taken it upon themselves to erase Ron Paul's name from recent AP headlines on their website.

How do these guys still have a broadcast license? Isn’t their ethical standards that one must adhere to in order to operate a 24 hour news channel that reaches millions of people?

Aren’t their legal consequences for excessive lying?

Terry, El Paso, TX   January 7th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Mike, Atlanta wrote: "Fox News is a private company. Doesn't this give them a right to promote the interests of the corporation? For whatever reason Fox has decided that a anti-war republican is not in the best interests of the corporation or its shareholders. So of course they excluded Paul. ... If you don't like what Fox did, then buy shares and vote in different directors. ...."

Mike expresses the pure neo-con view. The only citizens of the corporatist world are corporations. People are either employees, customers, shareholders, or corporate management. Only corporate management counts. Employees, customers, and shareholders are not of any consequence – and, there's nothing you can do about it.

It is a grim new world that is being built out of our older, better one.

Cat, Costa Mesa, CA   January 7th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Bill, why is it that "the more you make, the more you owe society" ? Why is it right that my hard earned money lines the pockets of those who don't work as hard? I made an explicit effort to get my degrees so I can make good money, only to have it given to those who didn't find such value in education? And what do I "owe society"? I already pay taxes to fund Social Security and Medicare (which I will never see a DIME of!!), maintain infrastructure, keep convicts in prison (not to mention build more prisons), keep schools and education thriving, ect. A large part of my income is also given to support various charities and work for the less fortunate? What else do I owe?

America is the free market. That why people thrive here, on the guarentee that one can make as much as they want and as much as they work for. You take that away and you take away the very thing that makes this country so appealing. You take that away, and we are bordering on Communism.

Max   January 7th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

This happened simply because Rupert Murdoch does not like Dr. Paul's message. Murdoch has held fundraisers for Hitlary in his personal home in 2007, multiple times.

This occurs while his exployees i.e. Bill O'Reilly and all the other crones at Faux Noise call Hillary names and lambast about how bad she would be for our country.

On the conspiracy side of the whole presidential election I have to say I am greatly concerned that so many candidates are members of this private CFR. These people are out to create a one world government at the expense of every living human being that is not an international banker. It is not even a secret. It is in Rockefeller's book and has a fifty+ year history of development, one step at a time. People who pledge allegiance to private membership groups before they pledge allegiance to the flag should not be in our government at all. These people are dangerous. Just like Bush and Kerry both being members of Skull and Bones, this organization is just a stepping stone to organizations such as the CFR and are a part of the Illuminati heritage, along with the Trilateral Commission and multiple other groups of high-power bankers.

Thankfully, Dr. Paul is not one of these people.

Ron   January 7th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

What ever happened to we report you decide ? Fox just told the country to go to he** . Paul wont win the republican nomination for one reason. The republican party is run by the radical right wing taliban here in America just like Fox News is. Their only concern is if they can stop abortion so they have enough people to go die FOR THEM in wars based on the lies they push.

RupertsSheeple   January 7th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

FOX NEWS

"We Report – Rupert Decides 2008"

Dave from Oregon   January 7th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

"Did you see his performance on the ABC debate? He was an embarassment."

First of all, let me say that I am a Democrat. That said, I think that the issues Ron Paul brought up in regards to inflation and the war were the most thought-provoking ideas of all the Republican candidates. Perhaps the reason why the other candidates glaringly belittled his comments was because they did not want to discuss them.

P.S.: Can't anybody spell anymore?

Mike, Atlanta   January 7th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Fox News is a private company. Doesn't this give them a right to promote the interests of the corporation? For whatever reason Fox has decided that a anti-war republican is not in the best interests of the corporation or its shareholders. So of course they excluded Paul. They also didn't hold a debate for the Democrats, probably for similar reasons. If you don't like what Fox did, then buy shares and vote in different directors. This sale of shares by Pro-Paul people may drive the price down temporarily but will have the beneficial affect of removing any libertarian influence from this news station. The only refuge of the libertarians will be their computers and the internet. How sad. But hey, don't let me stop you from posting your angry blogs. Just remember, every dollar you send to Paul is a dollar you could have spend on World of Warcraft.

Bob   January 7th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

"I am diametrically opposed to his worship of the free market on domestic issues. Health care for profit has failed. Some government regulation is necessary."

The current failure of a system was created by the Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973, which - surprise! - was the result of heavy lobbying. The current health care market is not free, it is distorted by exactly the kind of industry-driven regulation that Ron Paul opposes.

Paul would give every family health care tax credits that they could use to select their own doctor rather than being forced into an HMO.

David R   January 7th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

Fox "news" ...there is no news from them, just a paid shill broadcasting worthless right wing babble. CNN has Glenn Beck though, which is just about as bad.

Marlene   January 7th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Fox is the violant network. The only thing I watch on fox is the live sports and only because I can't get the game anywhere else. All their programs are violant, gory, and bloody.

Gil - California   January 7th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I don't think I'd vote for Dr Paul but it was wrong for Fox to exclude him from the debates.

NH against Ron Paul   January 7th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I actually pitied Ron Paul after the debates. He was pathetic. He might have the right ideas but that doesn't qualify him to be president. Everything he said at the debate only made him sound like he was clueless.

mitch   January 7th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Hey Dave form California, crawl back under the neo-con operative rock from which you slithered.

John L   January 7th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I would like to see a return to the really Old Days where everybody runs and first place is president and second place is VP. Paul-Obama? Obama-Paul? Hmmm...

Josh (Miami, FL)   January 7th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

DOES ANYONE WATCH FOX NEWS OR THINK IT'S A REAL NEWS STATION ANYWAY? FOX NEWS IS AS REAL AS SANTA CLAUS.

James, Houston,TX.   January 7th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Ron Paul, He who owns the "GOLD" makes the Rules!
John McCain knows that; When He was Up Against Bush in 2000.
Rupert advised McCain that Bush was his Fair Haired Boy and the rest is infamous History! The Sky is Falling!

DJ   January 7th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

I cant imagine why this country wants yet another career politician joined at the hip with big business running this country. Every person with 1/2 a brain should be able to see the President is just a puppet for big business. For once people lets elect an American. Lets elect someone who cares about the people and not who is giving him fat donations. If Paul screws up it will be with the best intentions of "the people" and not the best intentions of big business. If Paul is not elected this country will be missing a golden opportunity to turn this country around. Shrink the size of the government so we can lower taxes, stop Prohibition round 2.

matt   January 7th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

I would like to see Ron Paul as president not only because of his solid ideas based on the constitution, but because he has no affiliation with the CFR.
If America elects another candidate with ties to this organization, we are bound to lose what little we have left.
"Change" is a vague term so I vote for FREEDOM!!

Robert   January 7th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I am a Independent and after watching the ABC Debate the other night...It appears Ron Paul is the One I will Vote for...I started thinking about what he said and it makes Sense and the proof is Islamic terrorist never attacked us until we put our
foot in there soil...I remember the Beruit base bombing (US Marines) ...they said they did it , because we were there and we put our nose in there affairs...and that is Factual!
This is all starting to make sense!

I WILL VOTE RON PAUL!!!!!

Scott, Citrus Heights, California   January 7th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

"RON PAUL WHAT A JOKE…………….. AS HE WAS IN TEXAS……….."

This article was about whether or not Ron Paul should have been included in FOX's forum. Are you honestly saying the reason he shouldn't be is because you, personally, believe he is a joke? Is that how elections in this country work now? I see a lot of people at these debates who I presonally believe would be terrible for this country... but I still want to hear from all of them.

Anonymous   January 7th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Faux Knews – We Distort, You Comply

Scott, Citrus Heights, California   January 7th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

"Did you see his performance on the ABC debate? He was an embarassment."

Let me correct that statement for you...

You strongly disagree with Ron Paul, and so you disliked what he had to say. From my point of view, he had the strongest performance on the stage. Ron Paul is on the congressional monetary committee. When he describes the causes of inflation, and Fred Thompson responds like he's never heard of inflation... wow, are we in trouble.

"Fox elected to exclude him because this was not a debate but a forum, and they felt they had to keep to a certain number of candidates. At 10% in NH and nowhere nationally, he didn't make the cut."

There is no such thing as a "national" primary. National support is irrelevent because the states vote one at a time... and the early states greatly influence later states. If FOX had used the same criteria in previous presidential elections, Goldwater, Carter, Clinton, and Kerry would all have been excluded. Last I checked, Ron Paul had more delegates than Giuliani (who has zero). That's all that matters in the end.

Lorenz, Queens, NY   January 7th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Boycott Fox? YES

Bill   January 7th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Justin,

I'll answer your question. I like Ron Paul but will vote for Obama. Why? I mainly agree with Paul on his foreign policy, but I am diametrically opposed to his worship of the free market on domestic issues. Health care for profit has failed. Some government regulation is necessary. And the more you make, the more you owe society, so you should pay more taxes than the rest of us. Does that make me a liberal or a progressive? Maybe. I consider myself a New Deal Democrat. With Obama, I get somebody I can mostly agree with across the board. And I can still respect Ron Paul for standing up for what he believes in even if I disagree with him on half the issues.

Jay Graham, Dallas, TX   January 7th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Ron Paul is the only one who makes sense. We should boycott FOX. NH voters should teach a lesson by electing Ron Paul. But, these voters do not have mind of their own. Bunch of loosers!

David   January 7th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Neo-con candidates: BIG on gov't, BIG on chicken-hawk wars, BIG on foreign entanglements. LITTLE for US Constitution and responsible freedom.

Hillary Clinton: progress to socialism under BIG HillaryCare and benevolent foreign entanglements

Barack Obama: "change" to socialism with "aggressive negotiations" to continue foreign entanglements.

Ron Paul: R3VOLUTION back to US Constitution and responsible freedom. Get rid of BIG government and BIG businesses. Get out of foreign entanglements.

I pick Ron Paul.

RonPaulOrBust   January 7th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

America, you're not going to get another chance to really alter the dangerous course that this country is on. It should be obvious that none of the other candidates have real answers or really represent change when they all sound alike and only differ on minor issues. Obama and Clinton talk about change but it's all rhetoric. The other Republicans bicker about who's the most conservative, who lowered and who raised taxes and how much they want to increase the military budget when the military budget is already crippling the economy!!

Please learn about Ron Paul – there is a reason why he has such a large and energized grassroots support base. There's a reason why the media is trying to ignore him. The people you see on the streets waving their Ron Paul signs are pleading to their fellow Americans to pay attention to Ron Paul and the real issues.

PS – Watch Jay Leno tonight to see Ron Paul.

Jason NYC   January 7th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

"...and I think they are going to suffer for it quite frankly because they’ve lost all credibility.”

Fox News had credibility? They've been the conservative Onion from the get go; except they're not intentionally trying to be funny.

Big graphics and loud mouths; it's what the low brows understand.

Titus   January 7th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

When talking about the national debt, Paul is honest. The other republicans are part of that establishment that drove the debt to astronomical hights. Without Paul, the republican party is dead. It offers nothing, not even conservatism.

Mike Uehlein   January 7th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Definitely FOX News has become a joke, but what's new? Even it's own commentators said on Thursday night that Paul deserved to be included.

Duncan, Richmond, VA   January 7th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

A True American, someone who understands the principles of what this country was built on, would only vote for Ron Paul. Unfortunately, there are so few left in the US.

Mark Leigh   January 7th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

A vote for Ron Paul is also a vote against Fox News war propaganda. Remember that Fox News' Chris Wallace asked Ron Paul in a previous debate if he took his marching orders from Al-Quaeda. And other Fox News staff members have promoted starting and continuing the Iraq war.

Jessie   January 7th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Well this is an easy one. The Republican party can nominate Ron Paul, who many libertarians, constitutionalist, republicans, and democrats, and never before voters will support. The base of the Republicans will vote for anything with an R behind the name OR They can lose this entire groundswell of support
and stick with their 25% base that is shrinking. They really have no other choice.
If they don't choose to nominate someone the people can support. Then many of the people will write in a candidate of choice, go third party or simply not vote.
Many of us hope that if he doesn't win the nomination which would be foolish on the GOP's part, a third party run would be in order, the support is there, the money is there, and a vehicle is just about ready. Democrats and Republicans have not been happy with their parties for a long, long time. It would be the perfect opportunity to tell them both they are on the ropes. Huck will never win the vote of many Christians. Why? Mahama Gahndi once said : I love your Christ but I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ" I think he made the point well. Huckabee speaks empty words when it comes to his record. Personally I believe the Republican party is about to go the way of the dinosaur.

Jon B Olathe KS   January 7th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

The problem is that the TRUE Republican message has been hidden.

The idea's of limited government and fiscal responsibility only get lip service.

Save Ron Paul all the candidates talk about increasing entitlements and the size of the Federal Government.

Fred Thompson showed saturday he has no understanding of the economy.

Rudy Giuliani showed again saturday he has no idea who or why the terrorists attack us.

Mike Huckabee has shown he has no foreign policy knowledge and no integrity. (not to mention he's a tax & spend guy)

John McCain is ok with tropps being in Iraq for 100 years, and for amnesty.

Mitt Romney wants mandated socialied-private health care

Do you really think any of them are Goldwater-Reagan conservatives? Nope.

Only Ron Paul will reduce the size of the federal government, restore the republic, and save this country.

Lynn - Iowa   January 7th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Remember – FAIR & BALANCED – if you are to the right of Atilla the Hun and 1st cousins to Oreilly & Hannity ...... just a couple guys I would like to have over to my house for a beer and burger – yeah right!

Ben   January 7th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

I support Huckabee, but I wish all the non-Romney candidates would boycott Fox after what they did last night.

Jeremy   January 7th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Fox's exclusion of Ron paul was an embarrassment to Democracy. Can anyone ever remember the last time that the fundraising leader (both in $ last quarter and number of donors for the entire campaign) was told he was not even worthy to take the stage with the other candidates– many of whom poll behind him.

Actually, come to think of it, I want to thank Fox– by mistreating Ron Paul in this way, they have shown Americans beyond any doubt that they are far more interested in cheerleading for the neoconservative agenda than they are in being "fair and balanced"

Had I come up with my own plan to discredit Fox News in the public's eyes, I could scarcely have done better than what they have done to themselves.

Bill Moore   January 7th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

As a "Nielsen Family" I will be pleased to exclude any viewing of Fox News in my TV diary.

phil texas   January 7th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

RON PAUL WHAT A JOKE................. AS HE WAS IN TEXAS...........

Mike LaChance Boston, MA   January 7th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

You might have mentioned that Ron Paul placed well ahead of Rudy Giuliani in the Iowa Caucus by getting 3 times as many votes.

You might have mentioned...

Justin   January 7th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Can someone explain to me how you can say you like Ron Paul but are voting for Obama? They could not be MORE different and diametrically opposed to each other.

Someone help me out here. If you like Ron Paul, I urge you to vote for him.

Jennifer in Ohio   January 7th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I am undecided and considering more than 1 candidate in both parties. I stopped watching Fox regularly a long time ago except for certain shows depending on who the guests are.

Fox should be ashamed, but I will continue to watch like I am now. I believe in keeping my friends close and my enemies closer.

Jennifer in Ohio

cliftnote   January 7th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

On January 17, 1961, during a "Farewell Address To The Nation", Dwight Eisenhower warned the U.S. people about the accumulation of power by the military-industrial complex. To commemorate this profound foresight, I am asking all Ron Paul supporters to donate either your time or money to the Ron Paul Campaign on 1/17/08.

You can accomplish this by going to RonPaul2008.com! May we have a fundraising phenomenon unlike any other.

karl   January 7th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Fox and Wall Street don't want people to hear this guy. They want a big spender and a neo con war supporter. Ron Paul is a veteran and a U.S congressman and they are disrespectful.

cakeychan   January 7th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Fox is now removing Ron Paul's name from AP articles

Fox: “Only Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter have passed through since September.”

AP: “Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul have passed through since September. Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani and John McCain have not.”

James O   January 7th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Ron Paul will be the "king maker" no matter where he finishes.

mark brechel   January 7th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Ron paul has absolutly no clue as how to run the country. He should run for beauty queen with his " I WISH THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD JUST LOVE EVERYBODY AND WE WOULD ALL LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY FOR EVER AND EVER" platform. Wake up Ron, this is the real world. And by the way, how are the federal and state governments going to continue to pay all your Waco Wacko followers living expences when you get rid of the income tax. I don't think any of them have ever worked for a living. Disability and welfare for everyone, right Ron.

Lee   January 7th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Fox Noise = TRASH

Mireille, Charlotte   January 7th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

What's important is Who will Care About An american. That is the only candidate who should win

Hopewell   January 7th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Did you see his performance on the ABC debate? He was an embarassment.

Fox elected to exclude him because this was not a debate but a forum, and they felt they had to keep to a certain number of candidates. At 10% in NH and nowhere nationally, he didn't make the cut.

Glenn Doty, Columbia, SC   January 7th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

If Huckabee wins the nomination, which seems likely, the libertarian contingent of the Republican party will not be happy. Ron Paul is their champeon and is certain not to win the party nomination regardless, but deliberately pissing off the libertarians could finally release them from the republican fringe.

Before anyone pooh-poohs that possibility, remember that they make up between 5 and 10 percent of the republican vote, depending on the state... If the republicans disrespect them too much they will bleed for it.

Note, I am not a libertarian nor a republican, this is just the way I see it.

jim Scottsdale AZ   January 7th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Dr. Paul if you look at his voting record and his platform is the only candidate for change. "change that is positive for the American people. Look at the amount of donations he get's from Military people the man raised 20 million form 50.00 donations.

The Man is honest and has character is not bought buy Washington.

Fox and the mainstream media are afraid of him. Fox thinks the movie" Wag the Dog " is what the mainstream media and the Administration want.

The media is owned by large business and large business and Washinton D.C.ruined this Country. The effects we are feeling are just the start.

There is no middle class greed killed it.

Ron Paul at least understands the Constitution, the economy and foreign policy. Have Huckabee expalin the falling dollar? These people in a real debate could not hold a candle to Dr. Paul.

People say "change" what they want is the Govt to take care of them, because we have become weak and comfortable with th eGovt taking our money. You work from Jan 1st until the middle of July for the Govt??

Ron Paul desereves respect. Fox is a disgrace to this Country.

james   January 7th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

I'm an Obama supporter, but I agree with Paul on this one. It just seems to me that because some of his views aren't on the same page with the republican establishment, he's being excluded.

Dave, California   January 7th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

Did anyone ever see V for Vendetta? Doesn't Ron Paul look like the crazy dictator guy in that movie? Scary!

John, New York, NY   January 7th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

Fox should be ashamed.

While I don't support Ron Paul, and I don't agree with the vast majority of media bashers who feel he should get more air time, I do think he is a very relevant candidate.

Fox clearly has a focused political agenda...and Ron Paul's ideas are simply not part of it.

Robert, Washington DC   January 7th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

I feel like the only reason CNN is showing this is because its a dig at Fox. Oh well, I guess we'll take whatever attention the media is willing to give.

Fox = FAUX

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