Voters moved toward Hillary because of irritation with political pollsters and pundits who said she was out of the race before we'd even taken to the ballots! I know of at least two people who were uncertain whether to pick her, Obama, Edwards, McCain or Paul (registered "undeclared" aka Independents) and it came down to their irritation with the pundits that swayed those votes in her favor.

Don't tell me how I'm gonna vote before I do it!

Sorry to let facts get in the way of your "argument".

Go ahead and vote for Sillary and she can IGNORE any threats to our country just like her "busy" hubby did and we can then have more USS Cole, Khobar towers and World trade Center bombings etc, etc................

Yeah, I know everyone loved us when Bill was in office and just ignore all the US installations that got bombed while we were being "loved", this veteran has NOT forgotten.

Obama is an altogether different matter – there is something of ex British Prime Minister Tony Blair about him – all style and no real substance – a superficial politician whose campaign strategy seems to be based on election because of who he's not and because he is "young" – that last one really gets on my nerves.

It is similar to the strategy that the young fogies Cameron and Osborne have adopted with the Tories here in the UK – say little about policy, elect me because I'm not X, vote for me because I am younger (in comparison). The reality is that Obama, Cameron and Osborne have as much in common with young people as I have.

It is symtomatic of the all style and no substance approach not just of politicians but of anyone who is in the public eye.

OK, If you looked at the news tonight, why is Bush trying to start something with Iran? Seems to me he is trying to start a self induced fight. To make things worse before he leaves office…………. any thoughts??
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It scares the HECK out of me, Gabby. I hope he American people do not buy into this.

Ever.

She is reviled by 47% of the US. That’s 47% of the vote instantly gone. Add on the sizable portion of people that start disliking her after they learn or hear more about her and you have insta-landslide loss.

I have yet to have a Hillary supporter give me a good reason on how she can win the general election when everyone except a fanatically minority despise this candidate.

How can she possible win? People do not vote for those they do not like (except for Nixon).

Please, please convince me. Because at this point, this life long dem plans to sit on her hands if Hillary is the nominee.

The media coporations have the intent and the power to HIDE the candidates they do not want us to see. That would be the ones leading the fight against a permanent war- Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel. The media has effectively CREATED the reality they want us to see, and the voting machine vendors have made it so.

DON'T FALL FOR THEIR LIES!
URGE YOUR CANDIDATES TO KEEP GOING!
GIVE THEM ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
SAY NO TO THE MEDIA DARLINGS THAT GET GARISH 24/7 COVERAGE.
THAT in itself should tell you how you are being corralled into accepting the ultimate result they are aiming for- a NEW corporate-backed President.

What you people don't realize is that there will never EVER be a candidate to fully UNITE this country. It's not possible – we're a population full of entitled, celebrity-obsessed, self-satisying ADD citizens who flip from the news in Iraq to watch whatever reality show is on at the moment. People don't unite simply by being eloquent or poll driven. Great people unite when the times and the world are bearing down on them to lead with vigor, compassion and a national vision.
George the 43rd squandared his moment in history after 9/11 when the world was with our country in solidarity. Maybe it was because the majority of this country (or was it the Supreme Court?) voted for a man who talked BIG IDEAS and who they thought was charming enough to have a beer with, but didn't produce anything but a sham, corrupt government. True, there were scandals in Clinton's presidency. But ones that affected our national security, our Justice system, or our adherence to the Geneva Convention and repect of basic human rights?

The Dems have only one person to thank for their party NOT being thrown into obscurity after Reagan and Bush 41, and that person is Bill Clinton. He understood that a true leader LEADS down the middle, much to the dismay of his Party at the time who wanted to play partisan politics. As much as he had a problem being faithful in his marriage, he was faithful in his duties as POTUS (lying under oath aside) to try to steer us in the direction our country needed to go. And no matter the public opinion, he ran a tight ship and a balanced budget (1st one since Andrew Jackson, also cited as being terribly divisive and calculating), because he knew he had to reach across the aisle to give and take with Republicans to get his own agenda accomplished while letting them feel they had victories of their own. Yes people, for as much as "Clintonian Triangulation" has been derided by most critics, it was taken from the playbook of the masters (read any biography of FDR, JFK, John Adams, the Reagan Diaries, and Lincoln's bio "Team of Rivals," which was fittingly enough Bill Clinton's bible).

It's all nonsense – this talk of how calculating, cold and divisive Hillary is. She understands the need for triangulation. She understands the give and take nature of big government. She has worked her entire life (yes, even before Bill) for public service, for children's health initiatives, and for education. She appears cold because if she weren't there would be critics who say she doesn't have the balls, with all the prejudice towards women. She appears calculating because she understands that deals are made out of public view, that some legislation is passed easier in the cloakroom than in a publicized battle with Congress.
She appears power hungry cause she is driven to become President, like the indifference to be a leader is the requirement. And all that anyone will say concerning what she did with Health Care was to have a bill fail during her husband's term? Do you think Edwards or Obama or the Dems would have Universal Health Care as their issue that seperates them from the GOP in 2008 if she hadn't been the first to fall on her face in 1992? Sometimes, defeat is necessary. The thing no one can take away from Hillary is her grit – this woman loses a battle but will sustain the test of the war.

Politicians who bring hope and don't deliver don't stay around for long.The ones who matter, in this time of our country's history, are the ones who have been battle-tested and who have the mindframe that change of government can only come from within the government, from knowing the importance of bipartisan alliances and political deal making, not for the sake of their party's standing but for the sake of our standing in this world. I don't want politics of hope. I want politics of hard fought results, because that's the only way D.C. works. Inexperience is eaten alive and spit out in the corridors of power, not nurtured into fruition and action with time and patience.

I am an Active duty military member. You will be surprised at the military vote she will get in the primary and in the general, with all the work she has done for our quality of life and for the medical benefits battle she won against the Pentagon's indifference. She recognized Dems were perenially seen as being weak on defense, so she stole it right out from under the Republicans and made it her strongest suit. For all this talk of how calculating she is, A SMART PERSON KNOWS WHAT SHE DOESN'T KNOW. So she has the common sense to surround herself with advisors that produce results. Get over it....It's not glad-handling – it's what works.

My great uncle is a legend in my (southern) state as a member of the Republican legislature. I saw the deal-making and operatives close up from a very young age. And the only thing that has ever made them shake in their boots and drive them mad with resentment, since I was 10 years old in 1992, was anyone with the last name of CLINTON, because they didn't know how to beat them. They won control of Congress because of ethical issues, not the policies (which were sound) of the Clinton administration. And anyone who doubts her influence on Bill, not the other way around, is badly, badly misinformed.

And I'm casting my vote for Hillary Clinton come November 2008. Because she is the only one with a shot in hell to beat them. Most of you spewing hate on this message board need to pick up a history book and find fact-based reasoning to dislike her. Otherwise, you just end up sounding like the last kid who got picked on the play ground or ends up at the bottom of a promotion list because hard-working, intensely driven people turn you off. That's why she's in the run for President and none of us are. We don't have her discipline.

stephanie- you have one vote and you are allowed to do whatever you want with it. Others also have the same right. People don't have to listen to you on this matter.
Yes you can vote republician if you want. No one is going to stop you. same way no one is going to stop others to vote for Hillary. Please grow up!!! you sounds like a some spoiled brat.

ps she is allowed to speak her heart and she does make some valid points, that all these candidates ought to be subjected to proper scrutiny,i suggest you use your vote wisely and end the lies, pretensions and deceit around us and washington! we need to restore some dignity to washington!
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Stan- another one blinded by love for obama. I don't tell anyone who and how to vote. I do think people are stupid who are hooting for obama. Obama is like those american idol wanna who talk alot however when it comes to showing the goods fall right flat.
SO I am going to vote on who shows me the good NOT someone who reading poetry to the audience. May be Obama should start counducting seminars like Tony robinson.....lol

This election was rigged. You heard it here first. She was down by double digit in both regular poll and internal polls. Both Obama and Hillary internal polling show her losing by double digits the day of the election.[/quote]

FYI: There are silent majority.

I couldn't find one minority who supports Billary Clinton now. Here is a chance for the Republicans to grab African American voters and win the election.

Let me tell you, my African American neighbor said the New Hampshire Democrats just plain LIED about voting for Obama. Just tell the truth, folks.
You don't want to be known as a state full of LIARS do you? Just tell the darn truth, please. Nobody will blame you for choosing white over black. That's your right to do so.

HILLARY, YOU BEST NOT COUNT ON THE BLACK VOTE TO PROPEL YOUR FAT BUTT INTO THE PRESIDENCY. IT WON'T HAPPEN!!!!

I HOPE HUCKABEE, ROMNEY OR JOHN McCAIN STOMPS YOUR FAT BUTT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

There's nothing wrong if Bill would stand BY Hillary's side and "act" like a good supporter. But standing in FRONT of her or DIRECTLY BEHIND her with his hands on her shoulders does not portray support – it portrays DOMINANCE. That's what people object to!

Go Hillary! The first BOO HOO president!

"Cameron, SC January 9, 2008 3:40 pm ET
CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE IS THAT IS WHAT AMERICA WANTS
OKAY THEN
HAVING A WOMAN PRESIDENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS COUNTRY IS A CHANGE. IT IS A BIG CHANGE.
LETS MAKE HISTORY
HILLARY 08"

1. She boasts of experience but plants questions so that she gives calculated answers
2. She insulted the people of Iowa when she lost miserably in that State
3. She cries for votes when she's not getting them
4. 50% or more of the country already hates her to start with, could get worse with time
5. She has a promiscuous husband who is also notorious at lying and twisting information

Wait, is she going to sit on round table with Al Queada and leaders of the Middle East and say if you don't become friends of America I'll cry right now?

That's really going to work! Continue to follow her.
Let her just enjoy these few moments which will encourage her to spend more wasteful money on her bogus campaign. In the end she'll be crying even harder.

stephanie- you have one vote and you are allowed to do whatever you want with it. Others also have the same right. People don't have to listen to you on this matter.
Yes you can vote republician if you want. No one is going to stop you. same way no one is going to stop others to vote for Hillary. Please grow up!!! you sounds like a some spoiled brat.

ps she is allowed to speak her heart and she does make some valid points, that all these candidates ought to be subjected to proper scrutiny,i suggest you use your vote wisely and end the lies, pretensions and deceit around us and washington! we need to restore some dignity to washington!

All the candidates have there spouses campaigning for them, then whats wrong with Bill campaigning for Hillary ?
Women should definetly vote only for right women. She is a right women. If she were power hungary, she would have stood up for nominations long back (may be just after Bill Clinton was leaving). She is a dedicated women. If you cannot see her, you might be blinded by Obama's campaign of change. Which I am not sure will be happening.

"This election was rigged. You heard it here first. She was down by double digit in both regular poll and internal polls. Both Obama and Hillary internal polling show her losing by double digits the day of the election.

So what happened. Can you saw ballot stufffing ?"
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I think the above comment is very interesting because at 3 in the morning 96% precincts reporting was still on the tv and the same results for both Clinton and Obama were still there until the end. What happened to the other 4% precincts? What happened to those votes? Did those votes contain a different result???? And since they had declared too close to call why did they call it before 100% of the precincts reported? In the Iowa results they stayed with it until 100% of the precincts reported. And why is it that the polls were so right on the money for the Iowa caucuses and leading up to them and they were totally disfunctional for New Hampshire? And why is it that polls were right on for the republicans? McCain saw his poll numbers all along and as a result he kept saying he was going to win, and by a landslide. And he did win, just like his poll numbers. So what happened on the dem side? Hm...is there something amiss?

Would I like a woman president, sure, but it has to be the RIGHT woman. I want someone who is nondivisive, non polarizing, honest, ethical, trustworthy, integrity all things Hillary is the opposite of. I find her to be fake, insincere, calculating, power hungry. Funny, how she said "I'm not Tammy Wynnete sitting here like some little woman standing by my man"...But, that is exactly what she did...she always stood by Bill Clinton for his infidelities and claims she didn't know about them. Ha! She did it because she is selfish and wants POWER. I ask woman out there, why do you like, trust Hillary? She is supporting a man who lies and cheats on her...u like woman who constantly put up with that? I also ask you, why is she a Senator in a state that she NEVER was a citizen of? She is from Illinois and Arkansas...why is she not a Senator from those states? She is a Senator from NY for POLITICAL gain. Everything Hillary does is for Hillary. Wake up America...she is not change, she is not refreshing, she is not a uniter, she will polarize this country even greater than what it is today.

If Hillary gets the nomination I WILL vote for a REPUBLICAN....I will vote against her because she is a cold, calculating, manipulative, and power hungry and I am not a fan of George Bush at all! I want someone who is trustworthy, who will unite this country, who will bring all parties into the political process and presidential cabinet, and reach compromising solutions to the tought domestic and international problems we face. GO OBAMA! OBAMA 08....

What do you think about this?

Despite the inflated overprojections from most polls days before the NH Primary, CLINTON IS NO COMEBACK . Never place too much stock in polls, particularly when vetted against reason, and it was unreasonable to expect a nearly 40 percent voting difference over a 2 week time frame from previous steady and consistent projections. However, the Obama campaign did make significant large margins of gain. The Obama Campaign drew larger crowds compared to both Clintons. The Clinton regime, should have coasted through NH but they limped out barely and it is reasonable for every expert to say that the Clinton regime is underperforming and some triumphant comeback is not the case as the Clinton regime continues to lose ground.

"THERE IS SOMETHING HAPPENING IN AMERICA!" and it is can be simply put that the Clinton regime "The Establishment" is losing votes and the Barack Obama Campaign "The Future" is gaining votes and delegates. CHANGE is on the Horizon and "Yes ,we can be the CHANGE we want to see in the World when we BELIVE and VOTE for Barack OBAMA (A CHAMPION FOR THE PEOPLE and "THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP!")

OBAMA '08

-CDR

What we have seen is a brilliant piece of campaign strategy by the Clinton camp. They knew there would be a bump of support for Obama after Iowa and that Hillary might even lose. So how could they leverage that? Well, how about intentionally informing the media that they were prepared to lose in NH.? And if they were truly devious, perhaps instructing Clinton supporters that it would be OK to mislead pollsters. Just a few such clever strokes and – voila! – they have created a 'comeback kid'. This tactic was foolproof, i.e. it would have worked with either a narrow 2-3 point victory or loss.

Not surprisingly, the media has swallowed the 'comeback' story hook, line and sinker. One can only hope that they exercise more diligence and independence with future primary results.