January 9, 2008
Posted: 03:25 PM ET
Watch Sen. Obama's interview on American Morning.

Watch Sen. Obama's interview on American Morning.

(CNN) — Barack Obama accused Bill Clinton of twisting some of his early remarks on the Iraq war in a speech the former president gave the night before the New Hampshire vote.

"Bill Clinton was taking some liberties with my statements," Obama told CNN American Morning anchor John Roberts Wednesday, after his narrow loss to Hillary Clinton in the Granite State’s Democratic primary.

Clinton had alleged that the media had not properly reported on remarks the Illinois senator had made, saying that Obama’s policy stands on the war had actually been identical to those of his wife, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

"I'm not clear about what the contradiction is," says Obama. "I said from the start that Iraq was a bad idea. I also said from the beginning that if we were gonna go in then we would have an obligation to our troops and that's been a consistent position of mine. So, the notion that somehow that diminishes my clear unequivocal statement of opposition to the war even before the Congress voted to authorize it actually doesn't make much sense."

Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses by 8 percentage points over Clinton, but lost the New Hampshire primary to her by 2 points, despite showing a lead in most pre-vote surveys.

Obama says the record-setting Democratic turnout in Iowa and New Hampshire bodes well for his campaign. "What's pretty clear is that the American people are taking this process seriously. They want to bring about the fundamental change in how our politics works."

Related video: Sen. Clinton on her N.H. win

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bill Clinton • Hillary Clinton


Ida (ATLANTA,GA)   January 15th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

I am getting sick and tired of the Clintons trashing Obama!
America the Clintons are not Gods! For Bill Clinton to now appear as though he was nothing but perfect is totally hilarious and suggests that we have developed some form of amnesia. This is the President who because of lack of self dicipline and control lied under oath and had highly graphic and sexual interactions in the White House whilst he should have been focusing on the country, the President who was almost IMPEACHED?
I don't think the Clintons are better than any of the other candidates, neither do they seem appealing by their so called experience.
We are the people who make the choice We are the voice and We make our statement clearly without any help from Bill Clinton. America will make a choice Bill, you are running too fast and leaving your own legs behind you. America wants to keep you in good books let it be that way.

Jowman   January 15th, 2008 12:43 pm ET

Check the facts. Obama was always against the war. Bill's attempt to twist that fact is egregious. Stop being sheep and read the whole quote. Because Obama is running on a "clean" campaign, the Clinton's want to soil the race as much as possible so that he appears to be a hypocrite. Clinton's are running on the belief that it takes that "toughness" to win against the Republicans and opinions on them are more solidified so the dirt washes off more easily. —Of course, this highlights the "change" in politics that Obama offers.

Yen   January 13th, 2008 8:30 am ET

I used to support Mrs. Clinton until i saw her sheed tears because she didn't get the majority vote. Now i know how selfish she is!!! She does not respect the vote of that city, she'll never respect the opinion of the American people! What makes her think she's the best person for the United States presidency. What is it that she want to do this time and why didn't she help her husband do it for the eight years they were in the white house.
God bless you Mr. Obama.

Julie   January 12th, 2008 2:38 am ET

Paul,
You asked "Who made you the judge and jury when it comes to the Clintons past legal issues". The same person who appointed you judge and jury over me. With your vast experience, I am sure you can figure out who that is. Dang, there's that word 'is'. Who knows the meaning of that word! As for Obama, if you think the Clintons won't put him in his place, just watch. All politicians have two faces; the public face and the private face. The public face is the image they wish to project to others by which they hope to gain whatever they want. The other is the private face or the real person when he is not and does not expect to be exposed to public view. I never trust the public face , especially in this day of consultants, advisors and political strategists. They will manipulate images and emotions and beliefs, etc. to enfluence you to do whatever they want you to do. Try to get a view of the private person. Writings of their enemies, insiders, victims and slips of the tongue and actions. Thereby you will know who you are really dealing with. If the person has character in their private life, they most likely they will have character in their public life. If they are ruthless and deceiving in their private life, they most certainly will be so when they attain power. I dare say, most people would have not voted for Hitler if they had seen through his public facade. But, only through suffering do most people learn. I would suggest you wake up before you have to go through the fire to learn the pain of being burned. And please, don't be so sexist. No good will come of that.

IndependentVoter   January 11th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

It's the "WE the PEOPLE" type thinkers that started this country on its way to greatness…

Everyone needs to step away from the fringes …
Too many people living on the LEFT and RIGHT fringes … No one is willing to listen to anyone about anything that doesn't EXACTLY fit with their own thinking…

Too many people listen to a sound bite from someone and think that's the answer … it's been mentioned a few times in this string of comments … We ALL need to do a little research … away from the nightly news and the fringe radio shows … TRY just once listening to someone else's opinion with an open mind… Now that would really be a CHANGE.

Being President is NOT like being a mechanic … he doesn't roll up his sleeves and rebuild the engine or knock out the dents … He's the guy that orchestrates the process …

IndependentVoter   January 11th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

It's the "WE the PEOPLE" type thinkers that started this country on its way to greatness…

Everyone needs to step away from the fringes … Pleassssssssse!

Too many people living on the LEFT and RIGHT fringes … No one is willing to listen to anyone about anything that doesn't EXACTLY fit with their own thinking…

Too many people listen to a sound bite from someone and think that's the answer … it's been mentioned a few times in this string of comments … We ALL need to do a little research … away from the nightly news and the fringe radio shows … TRY just once listening to someone else's opinion with an open mind… Now that would really be a CHANGE.

Being President is NOT like being a mechanic … he doesn't roll up his sleeves and rebuild the engine or knock out the dents … He's the guy that orchestrates the process …

Bill   January 11th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

Senator Obama says "Yes We Can" but Hillary says How We Can. That's the difference between someone without experience and someone with it.

age77male   January 11th, 2008 10:28 am ET

Bill Clinton made a good point.Obama paints himself as the disciple of change.
But if that is true, how come his voting record in the Senate is the same as Hillary Clinton's?

Bill Clinton is right. Obama's record of change is a "fairy tale."

I have listened to Obama's speeches and interviews, and he has a marvelous way with words. But after it is all over, I have no idea what he was talking about.

His main theme is that "WE can do it." Really? If that were the case, then the Iraq war would be over right now. WE can't do a thing until we elect a Democratic President and a Democratic congress.

Only THEY can do it!

Ajay Jain, Garland, TX   January 11th, 2008 5:18 am ET

Obama raising CASH:
Obama is he getting SCARED AGAIN or is it a way to play the underdog after the Obama-Oprah hoorah? Who needs cash? Obama the greatest cash raising machine known in the democratic circle beating Hillary on raising cash! Who are we kidding now with mailings in NH , Nevada and South Carolina etc….

Go Hillary44 08! http://hillaryis44.org/ http://facts.hillaryhub.com/ http://www.hillaryhub.com/ This election is a national campaign for the long haul till

Michigan Primary on 1/15/08; Nevada Primary 1/19/08; South Carolina Primary (D)1/26/08; Florida Primary 1/29/08; and the most vital Super Duper Tuesday with 24 Primaries states voting on February 5th 2008, which will DECIDE the NOMINEE

, then LA Primary 2/9/08; Maine Primary (D) 2/12/08; D.C. Primary, MD Primary, VA Primary 2/12/08; Hawaii Primary (D), Wash. Primary, Wis. Primary 2/19/08; Ohio Primary, R.I. Primary, TX Primary, VT 3/4/08; WYO. Primary (D); MISS. Primary 3/11/08; PA Primary 4/22/08; IND. Primary, N.C. Primary 5/6/08; NEB. Primary, W. VA. Primary 5/13/08; KY. Primary, ORE. Primary 5/20/08; S.D. Primary 6/3/08 not the early states! A pre-Iowa snapshot of the national election scene: http://uselectionatlas.org/2008.php

Okon Effiong, Kyoto, Japan   January 11th, 2008 2:56 am ET

My advice to Obama is not to let Bill Clinton's remark upset him. Bill has been known to say one thing but really means something else. It was Bill, now Hillary and who knows, Chelsea might want a shot at the Presidency too. I think the Clinton fatigue is round the corner.

michael   January 11th, 2008 2:54 am ET

One thing that is strange about the politics in this country is that people seem to treat it like a sporting event. They have so much team spirit, so much love for their team and hate for the opposing team, that they look away when their players are cheating just because they want their team to win.

A lot of the comments on this list seem to be inaccurate and I hope that people stop to factcheck some of the things you see in the media before deciding on which team truly deserves your support.

As someone else mentioned the media should be doing this themselves, and should not be promoting the smears and lies.

Another person posted a link to a speech that Obama gave about a half year before we invaded Iraq that is on wikipedia. I urge everyone to read it. It clearly states that we shouldn't go to war, why we shouldn't, and a list of what we should be doing, like getting Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, and ending our oil dependency on the middle east countries. For all the talk about his vague speeches, posturing, and lack of experience, I think it shows a lot of wisdom and good judgement and is pretty specific.

I am an independent voter by the way, and even though I have a lot of respect for what Bill Clinton did in his presidency, I also remember that he has lied to us all before.

RichVet   January 11th, 2008 2:53 am ET

KUCINICH IS ASKING FOR A RECOUNT OF THE VOTES IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY ELECTION !!!!

There was a BIG discrepancy between the hand-counted votes (which favored Obama, just like the polls did before the election), and the machine-counted votes (which favored Clinton enough to cause her to win New Hampshire's primary).

Hilley and Billey have stolen the election in New Hampshire !!!! Remember, you heard it here first. This is going to be a big story.

PLEASE GO TO: http://www.wdtn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7608868

dora_rice   January 11th, 2008 2:49 am ET

what kind of fairy tale is this, that Obama is more liked by the republicans then Hillary , therefore the reasoning is that they won't fight him for the presidency as hard? give me a break. There won't be one single republican that will vote for Obama. He is leaning to much left , and doesn't have enough foreign experience to be president. There is also the question, what will his policy be on Africa, since he has deep recent roots going back to Kenya. As president of the US , what will his policies be on Islam extremism and the muslim world, since he was partially educated in Indonesia with a large Muslim population. He was absent when the votes were cast to declare Iran a terror state. Which had nothing to do with war on Iran. Yet he was absent. He also voted against the war in Iraq, when american emotions were high and all americans united under 9/11 were seeking
justice for 9/11. Bush made a mess out of the war, but had we won the war, where would Obama be today? The fact is he voted against the war on Islam extremism twice. What does this really mean? Did he vote against the war on Islamic extremis, because he didn't want to fight Islam extremis, or was it because he had America's future in mind. This question can be debated.

Peace   January 11th, 2008 1:43 am ET

I can not believe that we are going to vote for someone with a self-destructive smoking habit. We haven't had a president who smoked since FDR during the WWII. Obama needs to kick the habit or we need to kick him out of the race.

Look who is talking about change!

David from Texas   January 11th, 2008 1:38 am ET

Poor Poor Mr. Obama! He got his feelings hurt. This is the big league-if he can't handle it, than he needs to get out of the game-after all, this is just 1st quarter . If he actually had experience he would have known to hit back hard. Is this slow response an example how he would handle a real problem? Where is the substance that makes up his smooth talk-or is there not any?

carol   January 10th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

Obama and Oprah – cut the phoney ethnic tone and style in your speeches. You are not JFK or Martin Luther King – they have already been their and done that.
Oprah – you are not from South Africa – and yet you have developed their accent when you are interviewed there.

Paul   January 10th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

Julie, I think was way out of line. Very descriminating. Leave your racist views at home, I don't think real AMericans want to hear that kind of talk. " Who needs experience"' usually comes from somebody who neither has any or is looking for something for nothing. The reference about Clinton towards Obama is the most unintelligent remark somebody could make. Mr. Obama is an intelligent person which is less than I could say about you Ma' am. Both the Clintons have a very favorable record when it comes to helping the underpriviledged. Who made you the judge and jury when it comes to the Clintons past legal issues. I for one have enough faith in our legal systems, not to mention all the scrutiny that one is put under when running for the highest office of the Land. These two lives have been disected under a mico scope. Personally who needs it!!! Is it possible that they do believe in the AMerican system, that this country is and always will be great, that they are willng to dedicate their entire adult lives to the common good and the people of this great Nation to try and make it better for all its citizens. No Ma' am what sacrifices have you made or are you willing to make for your country beside some childistic rambling and crying. Yes, it is easy to critize and in some cases criticism is warrented. Hillary is a Politician who is trying to make a difference. But regardless who is nominated the change will not take place with out the more than majority of Democratics being elected to both of the houses. The Republicans have had controll for to many years and yes I too have voted for this party in past elections gone by. But the party for the People, as I see it, is the Democratic Party as it stands today. I thank all those candidates who are giving their best and give thanks to God that we live in a Democratic society.

Louis, New York   January 10th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

Just the politics of the Clinton's attack machine. Bill goes on the attack now, HRC crys and plays the victim. Bill will lie about Obama (Hillary will lie about being the victim) and the older women eat it up because they can identify with having been abused by a man in their life.

I read the statements made by Obama, they were taken way out of context by Bill Clinton and spun. If there were any fairy tails it came from Bill Clinton. yet people would rather be taken in by this nonsense again. No change, just the same old Clinton Politics. Lie with a straight face, the worse the lie the more indignant they get.
(I Did not have sex with that woman!)

Yet the twisters are expected to lead the United States of America? As they twisted their way through NAFTA, Osama Bin Laden, Terrorism, destroying the military.

ANYONE BUT HILLARY '08

Ibeth Dellemann   January 10th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

January 9, 2008 11:42 pm ET

(I believe the correct protocol is to address a former President as President Clinton or President Bush, etc. I feel that addressing President Clinton as
Bill Clinton is disrespectful and demeaning and projects an air of arrogance.)

Respect has to be earned! Don't you think he demeaned him self with his escapades.? Oh, excuse me he never inhaled and he never slept with that Woman,
Oh, it is all coming back to me now it was a right wing conspiracy according to Hillary.
As a Grandmother I like some body my Grandchildren can look up to and the Clinton's are not it.
Don't forget People died around them and went to ch ail for them, they are ruthless
power hungry People without any scruples.
I believe I can live without the Clinton experience.

Here is what I want from an new President,.put the American citizen first.! I do not want to pay for the illegals healthcare, education, ch ail stay and on and on..
Committing a crime should never be applauded, but we do if we close our eyes
and rewarding with Visa's.
Health records and a criminal check should be mandatory before entering this country.
Fix health care, taxes, social security and stop wasting the tax payers Money.

Who will that be, smile:)

gerald   January 10th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

I look at all the comments and see that most of the people who are giving comments are from the incest south. Hillary is a divider she told the America people to vote for her because she is a woman. A president should not run because she is woman, but want change in this country. Where do the clintons get off telling Obama to wait his turn, that is the most racist thing to say in America today. Clinton labeled as the first black president but there were still a high number of murders in the black community and let not forget rwanda. America is still as stupid as the world see us. We voted for Bush and look at us now. Hillary was never president so let get this out of our heads now , she was first lady and if she was strong she would have not voted for the war.

Paul   January 10th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

In all honesty not in support of Hillary Clinton but she has been around politics for over 30+years, She was involved with politics way back with watergate. While her husband was president she lobbied diligently for National Health Care. As an Insurance person, involved in the insurance industry, at the time, I know she was confronted by great opposition from Both the Insurance and Medical industries. She did not get everything she would have liked but she did get the Industry to make a lot of concessions which is leading the way today for a more equitable National Health Program to provide coverage for the many of needy uninsured families in our country. If you are going to slam Bill about his indiscretions than lets not forget about Obama's admitted heavy drug use. Not just a little pot smoking. Whether it be as a young, teenager, college student or whenever it still puts into question his judgements. These were still illegal substances and it doesn't matter what the times are. This is a person vying for the highest office in our country who has the ability to launch wars, push bottons, etc. We don't want him to have a misjudgement or maybe a hallucination from one of his past drug experiences and make some drastic mistakes. He cannot just come in and say present! He will have to make very difficult decisions and I question his maturity as well as his experience. He has shown his great abilities as an orator but this country needs more than someone who will show us the promise land. We need a leader who will actually lead us in making the difficult choices. National Health Care, Education for all, Social Security and the ability to have a place to live. This may sound Socialistic but Capitalism can work in a Democratic society that reackonizes that there are needs by the Government for implementing programs that help all. I believe Abraham Lincoln once said that is the responsibility of the government to due for the people in which the people cannot do for themselves. Nobody was calling him a Socialist. So lets quite the name calling look at the facts not the subjectivity that have echoed through out Washington for way to long.

Marsha, Portland, OR   January 10th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

Hooray for comments where people start to actually question Mr. Obama. Now if the media would actually start to question him! Oh, and Senator Obama, have some respect…refer to the man as President Clinton. All of our previous Presidents are referred to as President and treated with respect, I see no reason that President Clinton should be treated otherwise by you.

kimdy   January 10th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

I think all the people blathering about how Hillary can "unite" people, and can "sway the republicans" to her side are really not looking at the whole picture here. The Republicans HATE Hillary, and to an enormous extent, Bill. They spent the entire 8 years of Bill's presidency doing everything they could to stymie the administration, block progress, appoint prosecutors, open investigations, belittle, beleaguer, and otherwise halt anything progressive. Yes, he was flawed in his personal life, you bet'cha, but the sheer amount of blocking above and beyond his err, personal issues, was astonishing. Hillary was a large focus of all the above, just as much as Bill.

Now Karl Rove is supporting her… Hugely transparent.

Again, the Republicans are wetting their pants at the idea of having Hillary to kick around. Daschle said Obama is a "clean slate" – Hillary is not.

Think about it, who do the republicans MOST want to see get the nomination, and who do they have the most "dirt" (made up or real) on?

Hillary…

What, in the WORLD, makes you think that someone as universally disliked across the aisle, not to mention her extremely high negatives across the country in the electorate, could ever, in a million years, get anything done with all the obstacles that will be put in her way, all the genuine loathing that they feel for her, etc.?

I'm sure she'd be a fine President, in a better world – But we don't live in a better world, and they're not suddenly going to give up hating her if she wins.

Yes, Republicans like to stymie ALL Democrats (probably even Obama), and the reverse is just as true, but there's a particularly hungry loathing for the Clintons'. NOTHING will get done, just more insults, more partisanship, more abuse, more finger pointing, more blocking things just because… I cringe at the thought.

At least Obama has quite a bit of respect across the aisle. Of all the folks running, when looked at realistically, he's the only one I think COULD reach out, and with that quiet, but firm voice, get the opposition to "go along"…

It scares me to think of another 4 or 8 years with all the partisan, angry, hatred of "gotta get the Clintons'" no matter what happens to the rest of the country in the meantime.

Niki   January 10th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Angry American: Ditto that, why would anyone who is truly a christian insist on swearing in on the Koran instead of the bible. The third anit-christ will be the UN and all they need is a Muslim in charge of the United States of AMerica.

Niki   January 10th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

I pray Edwards Stays in not only do I think he would make a fine President, but as long as he is splitting the Obama Vote I couldn't be happier.

Niki   January 10th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Bobby W Rochester: First it is nobody's business whom the president sleeps with or what he does personally. our Country was better off with Bill in Office then we are now. George WAshington, JFK did the same sleeping around. WEre they bad Presidents. Besides he isn't running, Hillary is. There are a million reasons from religion, to lack of experience for Obama not to be elected. Everyone should pray he doesn't get in or America will move backwards.

Niki   January 10th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Jeff, you must hate George Washington, JFK and countless others also. They all had affairs and immoral Leadership. We were a lot better off when Bill Clinton was in office than now in every aspect. His morals were bad but many presidents have done that, they just didn't have Ken Star trying to make a career off of them.

David   January 10th, 2008 3:39 pm ET

A president can only do so much, congress holds the money reins and who ever controls the money controls everything else, If congress allows a president to do certain things then you can bet it's in the best interest of congress and It does not matter who is president.

Who ever is elected is willing to be a puppet, take the heat and retire after four years with a good retirement income.

Besides, in four years the U.N. will be not only running America but the whole world under a New World Order and a One World Government controlled by the socialists/ freemason/zionist alliance.

And your job will be filled by an illegal immigrant, you know, the undocumented workers………so vote wisely folk's. Not only for president but also for those other jerks!

I like Fred!!!!

Gerry   January 10th, 2008 3:25 pm ET

I' SURE BE GLAD WHEN ALL THIS GARBAGE IS OVER IN 11 MONTHS!!!!

Ron   January 10th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Not to get off topic but I need to ask everyone here a question. 2 days before the primary in NH, did anyone but myself notice what Bill Clinton stated during a live interview? Bill Clinton said Quote:"Were not worried about the NH vote, we already have it in the bag, we already won." Also be aware that he said this while he was somwhat off camera meaning he was walking to the right side and you could hear his voice when this was stated. The reason I bring this up is for 2 simple facts. #1 if this were for the presidency meaning the final vote, it may be passed off as a simple statement BUT being that Clinton in every poll was double digets behind Obama I found this a bit "strange" that Clinton himself had the arrogance to even make a comment like that when every other comment he had made was a speach to prepare for his Hillary loss. #2 if this indeed were a final vote say between Hillary and say McCain or Rudy or Romney, and they were caught saying that it is fare to say that the Clintons would indeed feed off of a statment of such as a complete setup, faulty voting system, rigged and would demand a congressional investigation based off a comment like that. I am not anti Clinton by any means, so dont go pointing the finger and using that as an excuse. I would point this out no matter what candidate it was.

On the Obama issue, look for the Clintons to attack his church record, Trinity United Church of Christ with it's (Black Value System) happens to be one of the most racist groups out there. Even though Pastor Wright has be asked by Obama to seperate himself from him on issues, the churchs mission statement is going to be what gets him. Do you wonder why he talked about direct talks with Iran? Look into his "Church" and you will find out. This place is anti semetic along with preaching the "white man is a devil" theory. Democrats need to re focus themselves with what a true democrat is and get away from the "lefty" label that the party has put on itself. FDR would not be a democrat in todays defanition if anyone would look back in history. In fact, he would run more along the lines of an independant/republican if anything. If democrats want to make change, we need to start with our own party beofre we can convince the people and let them down as is going to happen with any of the candidates running today.

Julie   January 10th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Experience does not make you good at a job or qualified for a more demanding job. I can say I have 60 years experience eating: does that make me qualified to be a dietician? I don't think so. Experience only says you have done something for a long time, not that you have done that something well or know what you are doing. That said, forgive me for not being impressed with HRC's experience. Then you must ask what experience is she talking about? Bimbo squad management? Travel Office control? Trading cattle futures? Hiding subpoened documents? Perhaps even covering up more heinous crimes. And you women: some of you sound as if you would vote for the Devil if he put on a skirt and shed a tear or two. Do you truly want someone JUST BECAUSE they are the same gender as you? What about thinking for a change, or is that too much to ask? But I can say one thing I do believe: The Clintons will put that uppity black boy in his place (back of the line). Maybe they will let him pick up the trash on the White House Lawn . That is where it seems many here think he belongs. Go Hillary Go. That is not a cheer; I am encouraging her to go.

Paul   January 10th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

To the lady who said she doesn't need an angry ex president, well it appears you do because you are not listening. The American people do not want the war. I have never supported the war. Many have based their support on the falsified intelligent reports. The fact remains that Obama voted for the appropriations in 2004, 2005, 2006. That is a supporter. The military budget is great the soldiers would not of been left without support especially if we were to pull them out like the majority of the American people demanded in our last election. This is wishy washy, politics at its best. To say one thing but vote another. We are smarter than this. He says no more but does the same old Washinton shuffle.

ORVILLE QUICK   January 10th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

Why do you people, your republicans and cemoctats, know that OBAMA is a MUSLIM plant. This should be as plain as the nose on your face.

For God's sake…Do somehting about this. Heaven forbid this should put CLINTON in a winning positin, but maybe aq good American is in the background that coulde step up and save the Democrats.

I am a staunch Repubilcan…

ORVILLE

Jason C.   January 10th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

Why is Obama getting so defense about Bill's statements? As a matter of record, most Democrats were TOTALLY against the whole Iraq situation that Bush put us in from the jump. But once it was clear that we were going to be there for a while, all sides tried to make the best of the situation. Then of course Bush started blackballing folks who had anything negative to say about the war at one point, so while once again both sides had to hold some of the true feelings in. As we got later on down the line, people were able to speak out freely against it without fear of previous repercussions. At the end of the day, Obama ended up having the same stance as every other Democrat about being in Iraq, and though Hilary was more vocal about it, she still had reservations about the way we got involved in it but understood that once we got in so deep (thanks to Bush), we might as well support it and make sure the troops are taken care of.

pab   January 10th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

OBAMA didn't lose anything in New Hampshire. This race is now a DEAD HEAT. I think CNN and all the other major media have failed the American people by not explaining the true outcome of the New Hamphire primary, Hillary and Obama won the same amount of electoral delegates(9). I say this because most people don't understand that the nominee will be decided by how many delegates received and not how many popular votes they received. All you have to do is look back to both the 200 and 2004 elections and remeber the the Democrats lose by the ELECTORAL votes.

I am an African American and very proud that Barack Obama has consistently taken the high road and not let the Clinton's drag him down to their negative tactics.

For all those criticizing him saying he hasn't been specific on his details of how he would CHANGE America then go to this website where he is specfic on every issue: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

He hasn't been specific intentionally because on most ocassions, specifically the debates you only get a few moments to make a response. He has asked that you go to his site and read in detail all of his plans on such issues as: Education, the Economy, Healthcare, Immigration, Jobs, Iraq, Foreign Relations, Environment, and the National Debt. He has a specific plan for everything and it lays out how everything will be paid for, etc.

Don B, Cameron, MO   January 10th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

All of this flap about who said what, when, to who and what is – is is ridiculous. All of the Dem hopefuls are in the tank with big money (and they want even more). The only difference is Hillary and Edwards already have theirs and Obama is still trying to make his on the backs of minorities and white elite pseudo intelligencia yuppies whose parents started the 60's dope rebellion and are still on the stuff and living in the past.
What we need now is a mature clear thinking President like Romney who can keep our economy in the black and the jihadists out of our malls.
Think about it folks–what exactly have the Dems done for this country and where would we be if they had been in the executive seat on 9-11?
I rest my case. JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.

BobbyC   January 10th, 2008 11:59 am ET

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Just like the woman who asked the question of Hillary I had more respect for her before the tears. I was leaning toward Obama but now I am sure. I saw the tears of desperation and Bills rants confirmed the desperation. If you are a person of emotion it shows always not just when things are not moving in your favor. If I went for a job interview and the employer told me it was not going well, I don't think tears would make the situation any better.

As far as Obama is concerned:

Why would anyone think that any one other person can solve all there problems? If you listen to all the candidates Obama is the only one constantly saying we. He says that because although he will be the one leading the charge from Washington, it will take all Americans to push for change in America. What he can do for us is stay truthful and resist corporate influence as opposition to change. What we can do is replace those who are roadblocks and stay involved in the process.

Ben   January 10th, 2008 11:58 am ET

I believe the campaign being waged by the Clinton's against Sen. Obama has been very low class, and to be honest, disgraceful. I hope most people around the country will examine their slashing the most energizing candidate we have had in years. Go OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walter Whitfield   January 10th, 2008 11:57 am ET

I have not decided who I will support or endorse for this upcoming Presidential election yet, be it Democrat or Republican. I am entirely pissed off at the Imperial posturing of George Jr. I however did support his Dad in both of his presidential bids. Obama to date is an interesting and appealing candidate solely because he represents generational change in National Politics. He has about as much experience at this point in his career on the national level as Bill [ 'I never had sex with that women'] Clinton when he ran for the Presidency. If you look at all the missteps that administration had during their eight years. It reads like a comedy novel. Yet learning in office, Bill[ don't ask , don't tell'] Clinton surrounded himself with some good people, as Presidents tend to do and letft office with a positive legacy of seeing the budget balance. [ sorry Newt]. As a former President he should hold himself above the fracas and not engage in partisan politics. What turns me completely off about Hillary[ after her tearful shameless whining ] after Iowa is that now I have a pretty good idea of who will be shaping her policies if elected President. Enough of the Clinton's- Enough of the Bush's. Enough of the Reaganesh 'trickle down' bull manure. The World around us has changed. It is time for this country to change. Obama has not proved in my mind yet that he has the 'hupsa' [phonetic spelling -forgive me], but he is getting it right about what the American people; I think ,want. The next President will be an agent of change regardless of who ultimately is elected. Let's all pray it's not Hillary. God, please bless America.

ryan   January 10th, 2008 11:51 am ET

i see that donna brazzile and michael erik dyson (professor at Georgetown University )have started to bring out the race card since obama's loss. is this what we have to look forward to whenever he loses a primary? hillary didn't play the gender card when she lost iowa

Walter Whitfield   January 10th, 2008 11:50 am ET

I have not decided who I will support or endorse for this upcoming Presidential election yet, be it Democrat or Republican. I am entirely pissed off at the Imperial posturing of George Jr. I however did support his Dad in both of his presidential bids. Obama todate is an interesting and appealing candidate solely because he represents generational change in National Politics. He has about as much experience at this point in his career on the national level as Bill [ 'I never had sex with that women'] Clinton when he ran for the Presidency. If you look at all the missteps that administration had during their eight years. It reads like a comedy novel. Yet learning in office, Bill[ don't ask , don't tell'] Clinton surrounded himself with some good people, as Presidents tend to do and letft office with a positive legacy of seeing the budget balance. [ sorry Newt]. As a former President he should hold himself above the fracas and not engage in partisan politics. What turns me completely off about Hillary[ after her tearful shameless whining ] after Iowa is that now I have a pretty good idea of who will be shaping her policies if elected President. Enough of the Clinton's- Enough of the Bush's. Enough of the Reaganesh 'trickle down' bull manure. The World around us has changed. It is time for this country to change. Obama has not proved in my mind yet that he has the 'hupsa' [phonetic spelling -forgive me], but he is getting it right about what the American people; I think ,want. The next President will be an agent of change regardless of who ultimately is elected. Let's all pray it's not Hillary. God, please bless America.

Duane   January 10th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Anyone that believes anything Bill Clinton says is a fool! Bill always lies and Hillary always spears to it!

russ   January 10th, 2008 11:44 am ET

did Barack say in a 2004 speech that he does not know how he would have voted on the senate resolution supporting bush's incursion into Iraq, as bill clilnnton has said….and has that speech been removed from barack's web site?

CWHACK   January 10th, 2008 11:28 am ET

The Clinton's in office behaved as if they had just came out of the "Hills". I forgot they did…Hillary should have tossed the Pervert years ago. By her staying only shows they are both sick people and need extensive therapy. Is that the kind of person we want to run our country? Don't forget that if Bill Clinton had done something about the terrorist while he was in office, we would not have had 9-11 and we would not have had to clean up Afganastan and Iraq. Obama has promised he would not shame the U.S.A. Can Hillary say the same thing?

Tim   January 10th, 2008 11:13 am ET

I choke everytime I hear Hillary mention "experience"! The only experience I can see is that of being the victim of a lying, cheating amoral husband. Until she speaks of that which she knows, I have no use for her. Please stop embarassing yourself Hil, your non-experience is showing!

adnaw6   January 10th, 2008 11:11 am ET

it is a time for change , time for the clintons to leave, lets take a chance on someone different . we will get the same old stuff from the clintons. I lets get some new ideas, fresh young ideas. also the tears were planned, Im not nieve she was told ,you have to show some emotion and her timing was cunning the day before the primaries! well you get what you vote for Bill clintonwill cheat again and embarrass the American people we will once again have a scandle in the white house, why take that chance, I truly believe out withe the old over 60 presidents, hillary is from a different generation and she repeats everything Obama says he says change, she says change, if you listen carefully she almost quotes him word for word, and she still uses the word I, I I this is a personal victory NOT for the American people , but for her, and her husband he got kicked out the whitehouse, it should be a law once your kicked out ,you cant come back in, the other countries are probably laughing at us for picking a woman to even try to run the white house,I cant see her dueling wtih osama bin laden or the president if Iran? tell hillary to go home and cook. It makes our country look weak. Im democratic and would vote republican before I vote for a woman, even the Bible says God put man over a woman.

Realist08   January 10th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Discussing politics yesterday with my neigbours brought out some things i never thought about. My neigbour was of the view that Obama's native country is in turmoil and that he should have gone there to contest for the Presidency and help move that nation forward instead of spending more than a year to win the ticket for his party here.

In a funny twist of fate i avtually thought about this and was suprised that the mighty America can't find anybody to be its President that it has to turn to the Black world (once touted by them as Bush / Uncivilised and babaric) Africa – Kenya to give them a President.

Obama is not an African-American whose roots are entrenched in Slavery and passing through the activism period. This is a man who is a first generation emigrant of the 20th century.

All hail Africa the motherland. Americans should henceforth respect and salute any African anywhere they meet them. Henceforth all forms of unciviclised manners of looking at Africa as a bush continent must cease. after all that continent is lending us one of their own to rule them

georgre   January 10th, 2008 10:50 am ET

Obama ;you are destroying any chance of ensuring a democratic president for 2008. Please step aside and let Hillary, an experienced, proven candidate who is just as smart as you if not smarter move this country in the direction it must go- if you were smart you'd work with her and ensure an opportunity for 2012, but this way you can forget any real chance of becoming preseident ever!

GB   January 10th, 2008 10:26 am ET

Carie – Why don't you check out Barack Obama's website? It's got tons of specifics about his plans for the future.

Ann   January 10th, 2008 10:13 am ET

I've check out Mr. Obama's record as state legislator, and it's distinctly unimpressive in terms of leadership. What jumps out, frankly, is that he IS a waffler.

Interesting that his persona differs from his real voting actions.

He seemed to be a lackluster fellow in terms of real action.

Mr.Murder   January 10th, 2008 10:10 am ET

It is what it is.

That's why Barack's head is spinning.

By their words you shall know them.

Barack said he was against the war in 2004 after the WMD canard was proven false. He still said his policy would match that of Dubya. If President CLinton points that out then it is a lie? Obama supporters have a hangup over what the emaning of "is" really is, it would appear so.

Never mind he has no statements against the war from '02 or '03 to share with people. He ran as a Scoop Jackson Democrat, a war hawk, to get where he is. The Chicago School of foreign policy is where his backing comes from, home of the neocons.

Bush was the change candidate, he radically changed America's direction, Barack is a stay the course guy. He's already talken Bush's unpopular mantle of radical Social Security reform. He's taken the advisory shortcomings of Colin Powell to heart. He's for continued occupation, the Hundred Year's War that John McCain loves so dearly.

Those young voters better get ready for a draft. If we stay with Iraq occupation levels to even a moderate size we'll have to either close bases in NATO and SEATO(which would further hinder the supply chain) or we'll have to initiate a draft.

Draft Obama = Obama Draft.

Those young voters are certainly pro draft…

Kadri Walcott   January 10th, 2008 10:09 am ET

EXPERIENCE? how many sworn in presidents had experience before?

Experience is just something to add to a resume, its about who can get the job done.

I have seen more school leavers working better than many people who were on the job for more than 5 years.

i worked as a medical records clerk for a year and was asked to stay on because i worked better than the ladies who were on for like 15 years and more, so what experience has to do with it?

experience is just a resume catch, education and common sense to make decisions are what makes one noble.

lol experience also is what have soldiers in war today so please refrain on the experience issue.

jp/michigan   January 10th, 2008 10:07 am ET

I went on the internet and read an interesting article. See for yourself. THE ASTUTE BLOGGERS : JAN>7,2008 "OBAMA< THE COWARDLY LIAR"

noid   January 10th, 2008 10:07 am ET

Funny, how people are complaining about Obama use of the word change while at the same time EVERY presidential candidate in each party has jumped on his "change" bandwagon.

PS. being the first lady doesn't equate to more experience.

Kadri Walcott   January 10th, 2008 10:04 am ET

People dont be fooled, Obama was right and he is right.

He was right to go against the war.
He was right to vote for funding, obviously he cares about the troops thats why he voted for the funding.

If Obama refused to vote for the troops that clearly will show that as a Presidential Candidate, he really dont care if the troops got what they need to fight a senseless war

He is against the war, but he cannot stop it bcos he is not president, so he agreed to let the soldiers have what they need, that is what the funding is for, food, weapons, protection, vehicles and so on whilst they are on their missions.

That game Bill is playing is stupid, as I see it, Bill is causing Hillary to lose, who knows, this might be a setup for Barack Obama to win too, I have checked Hillary's YouTube profile page and nothing there is convincing she wants the presidency, most videos on the main page are showing Obama is the man, actually i think he is too.

I am looking forward to Obama/Edwards 2008 General Election.

Here in barbados, our elections is on Jan 15th 2008.

God Bless You America

Phlogiston   January 10th, 2008 9:42 am ET

Bill Clinton took liberties with Barack Hussein Obama's words? Did he make it sound as Obama actually said something?

Tom, Boston Ma   January 10th, 2008 9:37 am ET

(continue from the previous comment of mine that got posted prematurely by mistake)

OBAMA NEEDS TO ARTICULATE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE CHANGE he's talking about in his daily media comments. it's not easy to do in soundbites, but he must find ways to get some specifics across to the voters during his precious mass media exposure.

there is NO other way to convince the genuinely concerned voters who are his best potential supporters.

MjF   January 10th, 2008 9:32 am ET

As a NH resident, "Glad they are gone now" I do have one thing to say. Why the hoopla about Ms. Clinton winning here? She and Mr. Obama split EVENLY the delegate vote. Sure it sounds great to say she won and that might give her a boost, but if things go as thy are now, it will be a brokered convension.

jack, ny, ny   January 10th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Rick- no one has to listen to you. Same way I think there are idiots like yourself who are living in fairy land. People this is free country…vote who you want to vote. DOn't worry about obama staffers who are all over this board writing lenghty message and belittling Hillary.

Tom, Boston Ma   January 10th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Obama detracters are one or more of the following categories: 1) too racist to stand a black man as our leader, 2) too zionist to change our / israeli immoral policies in middle east, 3) dumb enough to vote any day for anyone who claims to have a direct line with "God", 4) too greedy to admit they can use their money for common good like Oprah and others have done, etc….

Obama supporters: please let Obama know that

Justin, Houston, TX   January 10th, 2008 9:19 am ET

Obama says he fundamentally opposed the war but funds it over and over and over again and Bill Clinton is twisting his words. How?

Obama says he "No lobbyists in my White House". But it's okay for them to co-chair his campaign to get to the White House and it's okay for them to help him purchase his house.

You people are just setting yourself up for a huge disappointment if you actually believe Obama is as squeaky clean as he wants people to believe.

Exo   January 10th, 2008 9:16 am ET

Thank you New Hampshire. Your state stands as the guardian of decency and fairness. Your light has shone the way forward for America.

tracy   January 10th, 2008 9:09 am ET

I don't think Obama is playing the victim at all. He is simply addressing what he feels is an inaccuracy that is being repeated about him. I have to say as a someone who has always felt connected to Bill Clinton I am having a hard time connecting to the Bill Clinton that I see on the campaign trail. When Hillary was down he was blaming everyone under the sun. It was very strange to see him like that.

Jason   January 10th, 2008 9:04 am ET

To Carey Gister:

Great Question, and you are not haughty in your tone whatsoever. I would recommend going to Senator Obama's website. It's a very user friendly site that draws out his plans for "change". He outlines all of his strategies pertaining to healthcare, the war, the economy, civil liberties, etc. It's all spelled out there. Most of the candidates have websites that outline ideas and courses of action. Senator Obama's site provides detail as to what he proposes he will push for and how he believes the policies, he believes in, can take course.
Additionally, one can state a case that we haven't heard much policy "substance" from any of the Dem candidates. Most of the "detail" or "beef" we are hearing centers around healthcare. I do hope that the candidates will expand to other areas as healthcare is not the only issue.
But again, the websites are a good source. Plus, I believe we will hear much more detail in the coming weeks leading up to Feb 5. I do hope that you will get the information you need and that it answers any questions you undoubtedly have.
I would also recommend looking at each candidates participation in the Senate. (I realize I'm narrowing the field to Clinton, Obama and Edwards) I feel it's important to see what each one is doing. Specifically, each one is committed to various Committees that aim to propose and ultimately implement policies to help enrich whether it be taxes, healthcare, our relationships abroad, etc. I hope this helps.

JC, Topeka, Kansas   January 10th, 2008 8:56 am ET

Gee, is it possible Obma just learned that what he says today and what he did yesterday, had better match up?

Obama claims to be the canidate for change, well, what change does he think that he can achieve by butting heads with Washington? Change in Washington comes from within not from with out and true change can only be accomplished if voters put people in Congress that are for change, want change and are wlling to put polictic party affilation aside, ignore the Washington Lobbists and actually, work together.

Now, it's really easy to say that I would not have voted to give Gerorge W Bush the authority to use military force if diplomatic efforts failed to gain the desired results, which in fact was what Congess voted on. Congress never did nor has cast a vote saying gee lets go to war with anyone since WWII, and yes that should be a major point. It should be pointed out that the vast and I mean vast majority of the people of the United States were in favor of giving the President a green light as to the use of military force at the time. But I will also point out that that was contingent on a real diplomatic effort to resolve differences with the Iraqi government and their WMD program. I will also point out that at this time Saddam had all ready gotten rid of his WMD programs, inspectors could not find the programs and the main reason Saddam maintained the facade was not to slap the Bush adminstration in the face, but to maintain the illusion with Iran, that Iraq had WMD. This then in Saddam's veiew was necessary to keep Iran from invading Iraq and continuing the Iraq/Iran war which Iraq had earlier came out on a shaky top of through the use of Chemical weapons. It is also this very point that created a situation in Iran, making them think they needed a nuclear weapons program to protect their nation, not from the United States, but from Iraq and their Chemical weapons.

Needless to say, the situation is a little more complicated that it is made out to be, and it is by no means resolved today. I was not in favor of the War. Not because I liked the Iraqi government, but because I can not as an American veteran, support the invasion of a foreign nation that does not pose a threat to the United States and even at that I can not and will not ever support a preemptive strike against a nation that has not done harm to me. In addition, like it or not Iraq was playing a very important role in the region, that is it was still a matter of checks and balances between Iraq and Iran. Call it stability through mutial threat.

Now if Senator Obama is truley set in stopping the military actions within Iraq, then as a member of Congress he can change things up and deny military funding. Once again this is not going to happen, but it sounds good. I need Senator Obama to demonstrate taht he is capable of wading through the vast complexities of international realtions and make a reasonable and rational assement of the situation. We have tried foreign politicy at the hip and this is where it has gotten us today.

One can talk about change all day long until they are blue in the face and that does not bring about change. So what I would like to see from Senator Obama if he is the canidate of change, is what changes does he think he could acheive and what is his plan to bring them about. I don't want words, words are way to easy to come by, I want to see a plan, I want specfics. How does he intend to get rid of lobbist, how does he intend to make the peace in Iraq, how does he intend to bring bin Laden to trial, how does he intend to put America back in its place as a "respected" world leader, how does he intend to get medical care to Americans, how does he intend to bring good paying jobs back to Americans, how does he intend to address the situation of "illegal" foreign nationals, how does he intend to address a system that no longer is there for the people but for the few donors that control the halls of Congress and the White House, how does he intend to represent the people of the United States and not a political party platform that only represents the views of those on the National Committee.

Obama looks good, when it serves his purpose he speaks very good, but looks and talk only go so far. Lets fill in the rest Who, What, Where, How and When. I really want specifics, talk is cheap, and politicians talk alot.

Rick   January 10th, 2008 8:51 am ET

Unbelievable.

There are actually idiots out there that would not vote for Barack because he refuses to wear a lapel pin that has become synonymous with false patriotism?

What a world.

George W. Bush wears an American flag lapel pin and is the most anti-American person I have ever seen.

I really wish some of you people would sit back and re-read some of your irrational statements. Imagine these statements coming from someone else, and how you would tar and feather that person for their views.

The fact of the matter is that Obama (whom I have not decided to support as of this moment) is as viable an option as Hillary Clinton. You can pick your poison here…. the Repug hate machine will do its best to Swiftboat either of them in the general election, just as they lied about John Kerry in 2004.

My recommendation is to stop the petty bickering and have conversations of substance. The true difference between Obama and Clinton in terms of policy is slim… in fact, both are too far to the right for me to perceive that either is truly a progressive candidate. But either represents a massive improvement over the current regime, and is a far better choice than the collection of neocons and the cluless running on the Repug side.

In case you haven't noticed, we are still involved in an illegal war and occupation, the economy is tanking, and your civil liberties are being chipped away on a daily basis. Do we really want to piss and moan over who is a more viable candidate?

Rick   January 10th, 2008 8:50 am ET

Unbelievable.

There are actually idiots out there that would not vote for Barack because he refuses to wear a lapel pin that proves his has become synonymous with false patriotism?

What a world.

George W. Bush wears an American flag lapel pin and is the most anti-American person I have ever seen.

I really wish some of you people would sit back and re-read some of your irrational statements. Imagine these statements coming from someone else, and how you would tar and feather that person for their views.

The fact of the matter is that Obama (whom I have not decided to support as of this moment) is as viable an option as Hillary Clinton. You can pick your poison here…. the Repug hate machine will do its best to Swiftboat either of them in the general election, just as they lied about John Kerry in 2004.

My recommendation is to stop the petty bickering and have conversations of substance. The true difference between Obama and Clinton in terms of policy is slim… in fact, both are too far to the right for me to perceive that either is truly a progressive candidate. But either represents a massive improvement over the current regime, and is a far better choice than the collection of neocons and the cluless running on the Repug side.

In case you haven't noticed, we are still involved in an illegal war and occupation, the economy is tanking, and your civil liberties are being chipped away on a daily basis. Do we really want to piss and moan over who is a more viable candidate?

KaAP   January 10th, 2008 8:45 am ET

A little fact checking here … please …
1. The accusation that Obama's campaign manager is a lobbyist … that is true … BUY here is the big but: he is a state lobbyist and since he is not a resident of NH he can have no influence over his office … However Obama will not take money from National lobbyists and from PAC's and that is true which is unlike the Clinton campaign who does … John Edwards is playing a little semantic game with his no lobbyist money since trial lawyers are an interest group who do have a national influence …
2. As stated above Obama DID answer Bill Clinton's allegations in a factual calm and respectful manner.
3. The swfit-boat techniques that the Clinton's and their operatives are using are at best reprehensible at worst unethical and they demonstrate a cynical regard for the country and constitution they profess to care about.

I was a single mother in the 90's I do not remember that time as being pleasant the Clitnon's brought us a failed health care (something she highlights as her experience) a stupid don't ask don't tell law and a ridiculous form of animosity after he caused Democrats to loose both houses of congress …

Obama has experience and I am voitng for him because I am sick of this dynastic assumption by the Clinton's. I am angered by his lying about his affair not on moral grounds just on stupid grounds … and I am concerned about what happened to the women left in his wake … If Mrs Clinton was a feminist as she professes she would have left him … especially because he trashed other women. I learned early on now that I am a professional that women ought not cry we have to be twice as strong blah blah blah to do what she did denigrates professional women everywhere …. and who can possibly believe she entertains herself cleaning closets? Please …

I am sick of the Clinton's … I am sick of the Bush's … and to see bill hanging out with george senior was horrific … I do not see Jimmy Carter doing that.

Barack obama reperesents a wonderful change, with fabulous policies finally a president has an education policy that I can agree with that focuses on critical thought and not on standardized testing and measurement (which is a large corporate enterprise and measures nothing but the question on the test) … Here is a man with well thought out policies for the good of all Americans and I completely and totally will give him every ounce of my support

Comedy Queen   January 10th, 2008 8:44 am ET

Let me quote the brilliant late George Burns. "How come everyone who knows how to run the country is busy either driving cabs or cutting hair?"
America, wake up and smell the polluted political ploys. Obama is the "straw candidate", out wooing votes with his Vaudvillian act of "change". He wants to take the votes from people who have more savvy and savoir-faire on the world stage of international politics. Do you think other countries are going to take this song and dance man seriously? But seriously, folks… Get a grip. This guy is obviously delusional.
The French have a saying, "plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." Translated, "the more things change, the more things remain the change." Hilliary is the right choice, the right candidate, the perfect candidate, the only candidate.
Will someone open America's eyes about this cartoon character they call "Obama", and I hate to say it, it almost rhymes with "Osama". Send in the hook and get this guy offstage, he does not belong on the world stage of politics. As a senator, he's fine, but he is not presidential material.
Hiliary rocks! Go girl go.

Joshua   January 10th, 2008 8:43 am ET

After reading the above post I now understand why we have en Electoral College. When it was created the cheif reason was becuase the American Public, at the time, was "to Ignorant to make an edjucated vote". After reading these other post it seems that nothing has changed the American Public is ignorant. That is why this country is going to fail. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer. We are turning into exactly what we faught against in the American Rev. and it is sickening. You all make me sick

bobfeiler@verizon.net   January 10th, 2008 8:42 am ET

While we all want change, IS NOW the time to put a Mr Obama, a 2 yr Senator in charge of the White House and the mess created? We need action, not words! Perhaps at a time when things aren't quite so critical would be a better time to experiment with his ideas, in 4-8 years into the future… NOW IS NOT THE TIME.

Michael, Columbus, IN   January 10th, 2008 8:39 am ET

To Carey Gister

The writing is on the wall. Go to Obama's website, click on Issues. He has outlined all of his positions and intentions. He has disclosed everything. He talks about transparency….all you have to do is type in http://www.barackobama.com, click on issues, and read.

EE   January 10th, 2008 8:24 am ET

My guts tell me that if serious investigations are made foul play wont be impossible in NH primaries. Even inside the Clinton camps they fear an investigation will sink their campaigns.

humi   January 10th, 2008 8:18 am ET

At what time will the press actually 'press' Obama about the details of his plan of change? When will the press get over their star struck response to 'Oprah on the road' and begin the critical thinking process?

I think Americans are so desparate to find great leaders like MLK that they are willing to forego the details and reach for a look alike such as Obama. But then again, he is helping this process. Have you noticed that his speeches are changing? Have you noticed that his pattern of speech has changed? He has assumed some of the patterns of speech of MLK (e.g., waivering at the end of sentence). The pace of the sentencing has changed. AND, Barack Obama is no MLK. What has this guy actually done? He's been a junior senator for two years. And before that, a legislator in IL (where he worked with insurance companies to get his health plan passed). He's no leader so in effect, it's really hard to take him seriously that he could effect change. Actually, the only change he has successfully effected is his ability to emulate in speech one of the greatest speakers of our time. CNN should do a comparative look at Obama's speeches over time. But hey, that would be investigative reporting.

dave   January 10th, 2008 8:16 am ET

no wonder politicians twist each others words and attack each other all day long. judging by the comments on this board, that seems to be the american way.

those of you who attack each other are a bunch of morons.

the rest of you, who are being objective and who are taking such a great interest in this political race…well god bless you. you will make the right decision no matter who you vote for.

Schroeder   January 10th, 2008 7:59 am ET

Poor victim Obama. Perhaps he can turn to Oprah for one of her battalions of self-help gurus.

Truethis   January 10th, 2008 7:54 am ET

Divide and conquer that's what wrong with the media. This country is tired of the destruction that's going on in our country. I want you guys to know that I love you because WE are one but we are different that what make us so special. I love those who hate by catagories by race or religion because those who not willing to open their minds and hearts to real CHANGE. It coming and you can't stop it

Christopher London, New York City   January 10th, 2008 7:51 am ET

THE CLINTONS ARE DESPERATE. Hillary Clinton is one of the most unpopular and divisive candidates that the Democratic Party has ever run for President. That the establishment committed to her and the part is being run as an instrumentality of the Clinton machine is itself the reason why many Democrats, Republicans and Independents will vote against the party if they shove the candidacy down the throats of the American people. The only way Hillary can beat OBAMA is if (a) she drives up Obama's negatives close to hers (b) makes naive Americans fear an Obama candidacy (c) we count the votes using DIEbold voting machines (d) they divide up the female and black vote. Hence the reason why we will see in the Clinton Campaign in the coming weeks, as we did in NH, attacks on OBAMA as less than black, too black and as no heir to the throne of RFK and MLK. The Clintons have taken and employed lessons learned from NIXON-BUSH eras and KARL ROVE.

Rose   January 10th, 2008 7:39 am ET

Obama was Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Usually, that person then becomes a clerk for a Supreme Court Justice to pad their resume. The fact that he decided to become a Community Organizer in Chicago instead says a lot more than going to work for the Rose Law firm.

Believe me, Bubba and the missus would hire Richard Mellon Scaife and Ken Starr if they could, to unload their arsenal of dirty politics on Senator Obama. Although I have never liked HC, I did like Bill Clinton and voted for him twice. Not likely that I will be voting for Hill. I have never voted republican in my life. I will this time if Hillary is the nominee.

Go Obama!

Juliann, Las Vegas   January 10th, 2008 7:02 am ET

Why is Obama called the outsider and Clinton the insider when they both work at the same place, the US Senate? Obama is already a Washington insider, people, wake up. This stuff about change and status quo is a script ripped off from Bill Clinton's 92 campaign. Do we really know anything about Obama, or are we just mesmerized by his preaching??

margaret   January 10th, 2008 7:00 am ET

America Make no mistake.
Do not be deceived.Here is a man who from inception has made clear and clean his intentions.He is not deceptive – step forward,Hillary –.He doesnt play games – step forward,Hillary –.and is not tainted by so-called experience step forward,Hillary –. What else do we want?America.lool no further OBAMA 08.OBAMA forever.

Reinhard, Barcelona   January 10th, 2008 6:41 am ET

Obama, our hopes over here in Europe are with you. Whoever I talk to is on your side.

John Wood, Bristow, VA   January 10th, 2008 6:27 am ET

Sorry to see Richardson drop out. He was the only one who doesn't scare me. Oh well, not up to me. Iowans and New Hampshirites decide these things.

Dee Tucke   January 10th, 2008 6:23 am ET

This thing with Hilliary "tearing up" is just one tool that the clinton's can deploy. I do not want the President of this great country tearing up if they are tired, angry or whatever in front of Foreign Presidents, Heads of State or anybody else for that matter. When is the last time Bin Laden teared up that we saw. Her crying in front of the Prime Minister of Britain really paints a picture!! Take a good look at it. It'll really make the rest of the world recognize The United States of America as a formidable foe or a needed friend. GOD BLESS AMERICA

Carey Gister   January 10th, 2008 5:53 am ET

I have been listening to many of Senator Obama's speeches and to all of his sound bites. I am continually left with a question that he has not answered: what is this change of which he speaks? I am all for positive change, but I want to know what the change will be. I have not heard any specifics. At present, I am an independent and I do not favor anyone candidate. Can someone point me to a substantive speech or paper that articulates what this change will be? I do not mean to sound supercilious, but after the election there will certainly be 'change' – President Bush can not run for reelection – so a new cabinet and new directors in the executive will almost certainly be an order of the day. So what is this 'change'? What can I count on? How will it impact my day-to-day life and well-being?

a young woman   January 10th, 2008 5:47 am ET

Nobody really knows who will be the best president.

I mean, throughout history, presidents have been elected with the perception they are the best leader at the time. If it was that easy all our past presidents would have all been amazing. All these passionate diatribes are a bit worthless, considering that these candidates cannot prove themselves until they are in the Oval Office making decisions.

A friend of mine and I had a heated debate about the Iraq war a few days after it began in the early years of Bush-dom. I was against it and called Bush many a name at his poor choice to go to war. My friend and I stopped talking for a long time. Last year he saw that I was right, and that the war was started by lies and manipulation/fear.

So remember that your choice right now might not be the best, any way you look at it.

All we can do is vote and pray.

James   January 10th, 2008 5:34 am ET

The anger toward Barack here is so palpable it's pathetic. It's as though people don't care what he says or why he says it; they are just waiting for him to say SOMETHING so they can pounce. Bill Clinton did twist his words. Barack isn't "whining" when he points this out. He's stating fact. Further, he's defending himself against this misquote. Any reasonable person can see this. The only way you could possibly criticize Barack for his remarks about Clinton's misquote is if you're just some hostie sick-o desperate for a reason, no matter how illegitimate, to spew your bile. Hate on. The rest of us are too busy watching history in the making.

Danny Ross   January 10th, 2008 5:11 am ET

News Flash! Bill Clinton lied. Well, DUH! The news flash would be if he told the truth with the intention of conveying accurate information. Both he and Hilary are sociopaths who will say or do anything that furthers their path to power.

Michelle Allen   January 10th, 2008 4:27 am ET

He did say it before the election. Stay informed! He was asked a question which he answered as he has since BIll started slinging the mud.

tea   January 10th, 2008 3:39 am ET

Obama while in Congress stated 150 times in votes not yes or no but PRESENT. What kind of desivise leader is that. He has been getting a free pass and he needs to answer in a more thruthful way. Is his father Islamic??? What religion is he. let the truth come out NOW. This was not done before Bush was elected and the World paid a wicked price. Question Obama NOW and get the answers.

soms   January 10th, 2008 3:35 am ET

if Clinton is in,i am voting republican though I am a dem …like me you'll lose a whole lot of people dems…congratulations on the achievement….I am a woman and I can see through their collective husband-wife manipulation….
GOP….start prepping for a 3rd consecutive WH run

greg,new york   January 10th, 2008 3:33 am ET

a lot of ou are spewing a lot hate towards Obama. making him sound like some dumb airhead that got to where he is jsut on charm like there is no substance to the man. I f that is what ou guys really believe good luck to you. I hope you get exactly what you want.( GOOD OLD DAYS).
I wont say anythign negative about the Clintons because it is not the right thing to do and, I don't want to join this crazyness but I realize a lot of people have ahard time learning from the past. the clintong where great in certain ways but they also hep creat what we have now inthis country a great divide.
I will submit to you if these people come back washing ton will break with partisanship. the republican will go crazy and nothing will get done.
again

soms   January 10th, 2008 3:30 am ET

RedSea Foreign National,
I am sure Hillary plant that's what people say(ha!)
Everybody in Germany , Japan and half the western world are fascinated and adulating Obama with fervor and you say the opposite…
You are definitely a Hillary plant…I can see the entire comment has been copied and pasted from a document…
That woman can go to any degree of manipulation…
People…beware….don't believe everything you read…Carville is in their fold and they are running a Karl Rove style smear campaign as is evident from the sleazy remarks made by Bill 'moron' Clinton..Be careful…
dems …you are giving up the race by going for Hillary Clinton as the polls on CNN show that NH voters are pretty sure that HRC can't beat the three GOP candidates.

Sam IA   January 10th, 2008 3:25 am ET

If you can't take it, don't dish it out Obama. Statements like that are the tip of the iceberg if you are nominated. Rush and Hannity and every local hate jock in America are waiting to unleash thier twisted innuendos and outright lies and as you can see by the posts on here they do work. To the Clinton haters, check and see where he rates amongst US Presidents. Perception versus reality. A few koolaid drinkers assuming everyone thinks like Rush and themselves.

turnthepage   January 10th, 2008 3:19 am ET

All you Hillary supporters, it is not surprising that you complain about Obama not being specific about how he will bring change. Just like your candidate you are lazy. Hillary didn’t do her essential reading before voting for the disastrous war, and now you, her supporters, make up your minds without doing your essential reading. Obama wrote two books and there are pages and pages of information on his website explaining his policies and detailing how he wants to bring change. No wonder less educated folks mainly voted for Hillary – those are the ones unfortunately do not read much. They prefer getting all their information from TV, which constantly fed them a crying Hillary and a lying Bill every minute of the last 24 hours before the voting started. In my opinion, anybody who didn’t oppose this awful war from the very start should not even run for presidency. It is a disgrace.

soms   January 10th, 2008 3:12 am ET

Repugs get the WH courtesy the moronic voters of NH…she and her husband are the sleaziest husband-wife team I have ever seen
fear-war-mongering -check
smear campaigning-check
anti-Obama 527 plants -check(there are many here as I see)
faking the emotions-check
undermining MLKjr-check
WOW America deserves them and later the repugs who'll champion their straight-talk express and laugh all the way to the WH.
Hillary is the most divisive and manipulative candidate…some dems will stay home rather than vote for her.
Even the woman for whom she cried a river and went spewing the agenda instead of answering the question saw her as a phony.
America..be blindsided, conned and tricked in all fashions by your dem candidate
…and repugs congratulations in advance.
See even Mac-boy has lesser baggage than Hillary-LBJ Clinton and he'll go to the WH

CaptainVideo   January 10th, 2008 3:07 am ET

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton = same old, same old

We really do need change and no matter how she tries to sping it, she cannot represent change.

CaptainVideo   January 10th, 2008 3:03 am ET

"I don't know where Barack Obama stands on the issues"

That can easily be remedied. Go to the Web site:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

You will find a detailed description of Barak's stand on the issues at this site.

Ann Aloha, PA   January 10th, 2008 3:01 am ET

Same Ole…Same Ole
Until we are treated equal and fair in every aspect of our agreement to be PEOPLE OF THIS FREE NATION, we will never be able to move forward. Senator Clinton is more criticized negatively for being a woman, seeking the Democratic Presidential nomination than Senator Obama is for being African American for seeking the same nomination..Why?, mainly because of a male dominated upper-tier of businessmen, along with the anti-feminist(most whom are married to these businessmen), where sexism is more noticeable and practiced than racism.
The mistreatment of Senator Clinton by the media, after her loss in Iowa and the very fact that EVERY media branch called her out of the race for the nomination was unfair and misrepresented the journalism that is truly expected by we the people. Stop the one sidedness and you will gain more viewers for longer periods of time, therfore increasing you ratings with dignity and truthfulness. All these male commentators that continue to try to discredit Senator Clinton mainly due to them disagreeing with the former Bill Clinton years and the policies that it held. Well guess what…this is 2008 and time to move on and catch up to modern politics.
Until the media as a whole respects more women in higher-teir business positions such as Senator Clinton and genuinely accept the fact that she EARNED her place in the Senate, we will continue to see this mistreatment. Darn if she does and darn if she doesn't, male candidates challenge other male candidates and they are veiwed as tough on issues, Senator Clinton challenges male candidates, she is considered non womanly or too tough.
In my opinion, I feel the media should educate this group of people to update them on equality and fairness, not just for this election but for life in general.
Ann

xo   January 10th, 2008 2:52 am ET

ABC is backing Clinton. During a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE someone brings out the fact that people don't like Hillary (remeber the woman vote). Later the MSM reported that she was attacked by Obama and Edwards even though see actually attacked them and Obama did not really respond to her (remember the woman vote). Next, all of a sudden a woman ask Hillary a question that caused her to TEAR UP (remember the woman vote) and immediately afterwards she attacked Obama. Then Fox's newpaper (which backs Hillary) put out a harsh picture of Hillary on the front page along with other media outlets which the CLINTONS have a lot of pull with (remember the woman vote). Next she attacks Obama again (with lies) and Bill attacks Obama (with lies). All of a sudden Hillary comes back with the MAJORITY OF THE WOMAN VOTE. Now if you do research right now you will see there is evidence of VOTER FRAUD right now in New Hampshire. The VOTING MACHINES (Diebold) gave Hillary a 7% advantage over Obama. They have proof that Ron Paul's votes weren't even counted. He actually BEAT Rudy. And to cover there tracks they had to WOMAN who asked Hillary the question say that she voted for Obama. YEAH RIGHT. This is OUR DEMOCRACY that will be stolen from us again. Please do your research. Tell friends and family. The MSM will not report this. Bush is backing Hillary. The MSM is backing Hillary. They need her to WIN. Make a NOTE* Dick Morris (who was Bill Clinton Brain) told Sean Hannity on his show that the Clintons are going to pull a Sister Soulja Moment (look it up) on Obama. This is a stunt that Bill Clinton used to Beat Jesse Jackson. Dick Morris said it will be very subtle. NOW- If you listen to all the PUNDITS today, what are they saying. PEOPLE said they would support Obama during the polls but since this was a private Primary, they voted for Hillary because they did not want to vote for a BLACK MAN. Don't trust me, Look it up for yourself. You tube Fox and look up BostonNow.com and Roguegoverment.com.

xo   January 10th, 2008 2:49 am ET

Why isn't the MSM covering the voter fraud. The Diebold machines gave Clinton the win. Obama actually won the election. Just go the BostonNow.com and roguegoverment.com. They did a story on it. They have proof. This election was stolen. The Diebold machines are there to make sure the Establishment gets the White House regardless of our votes.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   January 10th, 2008 2:37 am ET

Bill Clinton is truly a disappointment to me, as well as Hillary and to think I admire"d" them. Since Bill wants to sling mud, we still haven't gotten a clear answer as why he didn't take out his buddy(bin Laden) when he had the chance as Commander in Chief. Until Bill can truthfully answer that he needs to take a hike because he is surely a big part of the problems in the mideast, and so is Hillary.

depressed dem   January 10th, 2008 2:33 am ET

This my friends is the establishment at work. As much as people hate to admit it, the good ol' dems are just as vicious as the republicans only they're a little more polished. If this is how the Clinton's continue to campaign against Obama, then he has no chance, b/c he doesn't play as dirty(note that I did not say that he is completely dirt-free). His campaign is about optimism, so if he can't even legitimately respond to attacks without scrutiny and PR problems, then how is going to argue the issues without looking like he is raising his voice with Clinton. It's a no-win and paints a very dark narrative of America today. I'm not saying he's the best candidate, but I'm saying that being unfair and shady DOES pay off.

I few things to consider:
-The behavior of the some of the posters here and their inability to debate in a mature manner should be a concern to the people of this nation considering that they are most likely capable of voting. Scary prospect.
-Who's running, Bill or Hillary?
-If Hillary wins the nomination, Bloomberg will most like run. What then?
[b]-If this election for the Democrats was to find someone truly experienced, they would've voted for Biden or Richardson, not the rock star or the one with name recognition.[/b]

People please educate yourselves before you vote, even if you are strongly behind one candidate, do everyone a favor and thoroughly research all of them instead of coming on this blog and embarassing yourself.

Joyce Allen   January 10th, 2008 2:33 am ET

Look if people do not believe Obama can get things done. They need to look what he accomplished in Iowa and New Hampshire. He helped those people to create a record breaking turnout. If that is not evidence of his abilities, then lets just pick him apart like we have done throughout history to prevent progress in this nation.

Karen   January 10th, 2008 1:54 am ET

Obama/Bloomberg 2008

Can't take another 4 yrs of the Clintons' soap opera and the far left wing crazies fighting the far right wingers wackos We remain gridlocked and nothing ever gets done.

Let them argue forever, while we ignore them and move on. We have a lot of work to do.

John Smith,N.H.   January 10th, 2008 1:53 am ET

CAROL,YOU CAN STAY AT HOME ON THE ELECTION DAY IF YOU WANT. I AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN TOO. OBAMA STARTS ALL THESE MESS WITH THE CLINTON CAMP. HE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE WAR BECAUSE HE WAS NOT IN US SENATE. DON'T CRITISIZE IF YOU DID NOT A STAND. BUT HE IS BEEN PLAYING POLITIC BECAUSE IT FAVORS HIM. HE HAS THE CHANCE TO VOTE IN THE SENATE AGAINST THE IRANIAN GUARDS. NOT HE CHOOSES TO BE CAMPANING KNOWING THAT WAS A CRUCIAL VOTE. HILLARY STOPPED EVERTHING CAME TO THE US SENATE AND TOOK A STAND. HE AGAIN WAS THE FIRST TO HARST ON HER FOR THE VOTE. AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE DYING IN IRAK. SHE TOOK A STAND TO PRORECT OUR TROOP. OBAMA SAID SHE GAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO BUSH TO ATTACK IRAK. HE DID NOT VOTE BUT HE IS TALKING ABOUT HIS SUPERIOR JUDGEMENT. WHICH ONE IS HE TALKING ABOUT? HE IS CRITIZED HER FOR TAKING MONEY FROM LOBBY BUT THE CHAIR OF HIS CAMPAGN HIS LOBBY FOR A PHARMACETICAL FIRM. COME ON! BILL CLINTON IS RIGHT. OBAMA NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW HE WILL GET THINGS DONE .I HEARD THE USED OF WORDS. EXPLAIN OR DON'T CRITIZED ANY OTHER CANDIDATS BECAUSE DO IT SO IS AN INVITATION OF SCRUTINIZED YOUR OWN RECORDS.

paul donkor   January 10th, 2008 1:48 am ET

why does media hate hillary so much. It is a media hipe.

Matt, Milwaukee, Wi   January 10th, 2008 1:40 am ET

Thank you Mark!!

Janel, St. Paul, MN   January 10th, 2008 1:36 am ET

You bet former President Clinton didn't sound or look very presidential when he bombarded Senator Obama's campaign. I was embarrased for him (President Clinton) because of his grandstanding and proud that Senator Obama reacted in the way that he did.

I just pray that our country will see beyond the tears and anger shown by the Clinton campaign who, in my view, just couldn't stand to be embarrassed by another potential Obama victory.

Obama 08 all the way!!

very concerned. OBAMA 08   January 10th, 2008 1:14 am ET

Hi Joanne,
you say that you don't know where Obama stands on the issues. Well just for you, I searched long and hard and found this interesting little website that explains his stance on ALL of the issues: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ it's quite a fascinating read. Also, I'm pretty sure that if you listen to his 'great speeches' you might learn a bit more about the brilliant ideas he has for this country.

Seriously, people. Don't write off Barack Obama just because a few uninformed people try to portray him in a negative light.

And can someone please explain to me what HRC means when she says that she has had 35 years of experience? Last time I checked, she has only been on the senate since 2000 (No, I don't think being the first lady counts. Sorry). In addition, no one can claim to have the most experience necessary to be the president of the U.S until they have served a term and are looking for re-election (exception to this rule: George W. Bush).

Also, Joanne, my vote for Obama has nothing to do with Hillary's gender (I'm a FEMALE). Instead it is because of a steadfast belief that he truly has the best interests of our country at heart. I know that a woman can run this country, but I also know that Hillary Clinton should not be that woman.

In reference to the article (although this seems redundant), Bill Clinton LIED and Barack Obama decided to explain the truth. Pretty standard stuff. The End.

Brittany Johnson   January 10th, 2008 12:52 am ET

okay, everyone saying she has all of this experience…WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES SHE HAVE BESIDES BEING THE WIFE OF A PRESIDENT? WHAT HAS SHE DONE AS A SENATOR THAT PEOPLE ARE RAVING ABOUT THAT WOULD TELL ME SHE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT. SHE HAS EVERYONE TOTALLY FOOLED AND I DONT THINK SHE HAS ANY INTEGRITY AND WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AT ANY COST. FRUSTRATED HOUSEWIVES ARE THE ONLY ONES VOTING FOR HER BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE A VOICE. BUSH WAS SPECIFIC ABOUT THE THINGS HE WAS GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT AND LOOK HOW THIS COUNTRY TURNED OUT. YOU ALL ARE BEING TOTALLY NAIVE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND WE NEED SOMEONE NEW, WE DO NOT NEED THE SAME FAMILIES RUNNING THE COUNTRY FOR 20 YEARS.

Lacy   January 10th, 2008 12:51 am ET

I believe in Obama. I defended Bill when Republicans went overboard with that impeachment effort. However, I use to always say that the reason the Republicans hated Bill so much was that he was just as down and dirty as they were and could beat them at their own game.

They deliberately distorted (lied) Obama's record 24 hours before the voting and mailed out flyers suggesting he was NOT pro-choice. And the pundits wonder why "women" turned out for Hillary this time? Well go figure…

For Hillary Clinton to sit there whining about she doesn't want to see the country fall apart, as if she is the only one who can save the country… Well, in Bill's words, GIVE ME A BREAK. In this country of three hundred million people surely there is someone who can run it other than a BUSH OR A CLINTON.

20 years is enough! I want to see a different name behind the word President in 2009.

chad   January 10th, 2008 12:49 am ET

ask people in illinois what obama has done here. bet they cant give you anything. i think hes spent more time in africa trying to fix their problems than he has in illinois.

sam   January 10th, 2008 12:47 am ET

voter fraud
obama and paul were cheated
in the precint of sutton it is reported paul got 31 votes, while Sutton reported zero votes for Ron Paul
exit polls shows obama was leading clinton
even the cnn exit polls show them to be tied
why would people lie after they had voted
this is a fraud
check this link
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010908_widespread_fraud.htm

From The North   January 10th, 2008 12:43 am ET

Well it's nice to see that CNN and so many bloggers are still consumed and obsessed with the Election that doesn't take place for another …..eleven months?

I'D THINK MORE IMPORTANT TODAY WOULD BE THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION'S ANNOUNCEMENT that they are all but ready to send another 3,000 military to Afghanistan to aid the steady rise in violence. Albeit they haven't a clue where they'll get 3,000 military members! Apparently not from Europe as it sounds like they've had enough with assisting the PEACE KEEPING AND DEMOCRACY BUILDING in the Mid East.

Course this was not news for me. I knew it was only a matter of time/days before George found an excuse to get another fiasco going. Good Ole George. Never a dull moment while he's around eh?

Maybe Americans should be spending more time concentrating on their present (so called) leader instead of yammering about which unqualified Candidate should replace him. NEWS FLASH – He AINT GONE YET – He's Bigger Than Life
And stoking the fires!

If everyone is so concerned about the future direction of their Nation maybe they should spend time making placards for a march in Washington instead of posting, as it looks like DIMWIT may move the election another year or two into the future so he can finish his next battle in the Mid East! (Iran by way of Kandahar)
I'd sure like to get a look at his map.

And Clinton was Impeached by an Intern and Publican Sniffer! Politics in the US are sure mindboggling. No wonder elections take so long!

Oh Gee I'm missing Late Night with David Betterrman….Gotta Run…

McDonald   January 10th, 2008 12:41 am ET

How bout voting for Barbara Bush …she had two sons who were governors and a Husband and a son who were president… let's see the Clintons top that …What experience?

McDonald   January 10th, 2008 12:38 am ET

Really nice to know that Bill the racist Clinton thinks that the only good use for Blacks is neoexploitation in pursuit of his family's interest. Funny looking for an additional presidential term through his wife …Well this time it will be different..everyone will see him for the incompentent slcik sellout that he always out…the economy is in the tanks thanks to GeorgeW and his wife's and his political opportunism will only make things worst…
The Oracle

Mark Flanders   January 10th, 2008 12:26 am ET

Greetings,

It is depressing how many (not all) of these comments are ignorant and abusive. Apparently people are so disempowered that when they get a chance, they just spew whatever bits of out-of-context information they've managed to fit into their preconceived little ideas. The facts are repeatedly wrong and the attacks are mean and childish. If I'm for intelligent dialog and consided opinions, does that make me an Obama supporter? If so, guilty as charged.

mf.

Patricia   January 10th, 2008 12:23 am ET

Bill Clinton will do anything to WIN Hillary… Remember, after that ORAL office chapter which put to shame the greatest country on earth, he has been wooing Hillary. I bet Bill promised her the ORAL office just so she can put up a picture of one happy family… Get real, Clintons…

ecmexican   January 10th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Am I the onl y person who thinks that if Obama were Phil Mckenzie and a white man he would have been laughed off the stage when he stated he wanted to be President? A white man or woman with his experience would not have been given the time of day…..

cadem22   January 10th, 2008 12:04 am ET

Anyone who believes that Hillary Clinton will lead this country in a new direction is extremely out of touch. The democrats have the chance with Obama to nominate a candidate that not only appeals to democrats but independents and republicans…isn't that the best of all scenarios for a general election?? Say what you want about his record and experience, Hillary is by no means perfect either but one thing is for sure and that is she will polarize this country and ensure that the gop has a legit shot at winning the white house AGAIN! This is a moment for democrats to seize back Washington and build a coalition of the willing regardless of political affiliation. And with that this country will actually be able rebound from this terrible situation we are in

Ray   January 9th, 2008 11:59 pm ET

I think it's about time everyone takes a step back and asked themselfs a question or two about those who are running for U.S. President that serve in the House or Senate. If they all have such great ideas, then why haven't they introduce bills for these types of thing they are promissing to the American public. When you get a justifiable answer, please let us all know why the Bill didn't pass in committee or house, but first let us know when it was introduced.
The second point is, I would like to have a job right now where I'm getting paid by the American people while I'm running a champaign for President. Is that fair to those who aren't a Congressman or Senator, and have to do the funding out of their own pocket. Oh, I forgot, what about the money being spent for secret service personnal? Who's paying for all of that? Don't forget that there is 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so that roughfully means 50 to 60 security people we pay for in travel , meals and lodging. Now, if we took the money that is paying for all the security and all expenses, we could almost pay for all health care, as well as secure our boarders. I know most of the folks in California don't care about that, beign they are the ones who just burn they're money just to show off.
Let's find someone who cares more about what is happening in the United States and wants to close the gates and return labor where it belongs. Not over seas, but here. If we continue the way we are going, we will be at the mercy of other countries for all our needs.
Bottom Line, Only six months of campaigning, one million dollars for advertising, andthen the seventh month is the elections. It's up to us to make the difference and not the politician.

Sean Joseph   January 9th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

I believe the correct protocol is to address a former President as President Clinton or President Bush, etc. I feel that addressing President Clinton as
Bill Clinton is disrespectful and demeaning and projects an air of arrogance.

m.m   January 9th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

being against unchecked lobbyism is not equivalent to being against lobbyism itself.
people have a right to lobby but they do not have a right to bribe politicians.
similarly if a doctor says that too much sugar is bad for you, would you call him a hypocrit if you see him consume sugar in moderation? similarly, on what logical basis is obama an hypocrit for hiring a professional lobbyist since in the first place obama is against lobbyism itself but rather against unchecked lobbyism? plouffe is not to pander to big powerful lobbyists, so it is not an act of hypocrisy since the job of being a political strategists overlays with that of being a lobbyist. this is again how the clintons would insult our intelligence.

AJ, IL   January 9th, 2008 11:37 pm ET

Obama has never played the race card. Unlike Hillary who has continually played the gender card. GIVE ME A BREAK! Tearing up about a question concerning the campaign season. Hillary didn't tear up when Bill (the adulterer) got caught publicly cheating on her or when her vote for the Iraq war put this country on a divisive and downward path. I'm sure the terrorists are liking the weakness they see in Hillary.

Hailey   January 9th, 2008 11:36 pm ET

How funny. I submitted a comment earlier that stated something along the lines of :
"Big surprise, The to biggest campaign spenders are butting heads. Maybe if there was a cap on campaign spending we would get a clearer view of the truth"
To my disbelief, my comment was not approved. Has sensorship really reached this level?
Once again , a Ron Paul supporter of the south
(maybe this time my comment will reach the cut)

Elliott   January 9th, 2008 11:35 pm ET

Hillary = Status Quo. It's that simple. She tried to enact major healthcare reform but failed miserably. Health care is too important to risk with someone who has a bad track record.

I am amazed how Democrats have bought Hillary's fairy tale about "change." There will be very little change under a Hillary administration. Don't believe me? Name some significant new policies and changes under the Bill Clinton administration.

Obama = Change. Hillary = lip service to change and cozy relationships with big donors, selling out the progressive left, just like Bill did.

Azar   January 9th, 2008 11:32 pm ET

Joanne:

Women other than Hillary Clinton can turn this country around. We have some great women at the head of major corporations and in the public sector. Hillary Clinton is too divisive to unite the country. If she gets elected, she will not be able to rule effectively because of her attitude. In New Hampshire, she and her husband used emotion and race card in order to win. Her narrow victory was due to sympathy votes by women. In this context, if women like you and Ms. Gloria Steinem vote because of gender, another division may arise within the Democratic Party and vindependents. I think that people should vote for a candidate based on that candidate's qualification.

m.m   January 9th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

the big problem with the clintons is that they would insult the intelligence of the american people without even blinking. first of all, bill claims that obama voting record in the senate is very similar to that of hillary in an attempt to show that hilary is not that different from obama; yet, he would praise his wife's legislative accomplishement but undermine that of obama as the biggest fairy tale. that is the contradiction!!! what obama said about the war was not a contradiction. also claiming that the media is in favor of obama is a lie. obama was written off by the media long ago in favor of the inevitable candidate. as someone has already pointed out, obama has only himself to blame; for god's sake, bill was the same man who tried to change the meaning of the very common word "SEX", so no one should be surprised if he has twisted another man's word.

David James   January 9th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

Has ANYONE here read Barack's speech on the matter, PRE-invasion??
Everyone criticizing the man wants to pretend that he has NO record. It's out there people, just read for a few minutes!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

Joanne   January 9th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

I am a New Hampshire resident who voted for Hillary Clinton. Why? Because she has what it will take to turn this country around. I don't know where Barack Obama stands on the issues & I don't believe he has what it takes to be the leader of this country. Oh sure, he gives great speeches but it's going to take more than speeches about hope & change to turn this counrty around.

I trust Hillary Clinton to put together an excellent team that will work to cut our national debt, restore our dignity in the worid, take the tax burden off of the middle class, affordable health care for all citizens, etc.

Most importantly, I trust that Hillary Clinton will address the debt that we owe to China. Do any of you realize the dollar amount that we pay in interest on that debt? Do any of you think about what will happen to this country if China uses the "nuclear option" & calls in that debt. How can we as a nation stand up to China when financially they own us?

As for those of you who believe a woman cannot run this country, think again. Who handles household budgets, cleans the house, cooks, gives birth, comforts & pumps up the men in their lives + works to afford a decent lifestyle for her family?

For the past seven years we have had two men running this country & they have run this country into the ground. We are debt ridden due to war of choice not of neccessity. It's going to take a strong woman to turn this country around & that woman is Hillary Clinton.

Brittany Johnson   January 9th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

Clearly Obama is the only logical democratic candidate. Hilary has been using Bill as a platform for years. Her only experience is being the wife of a cheating, dishonest husband, other than that she has none. Obama can and WILL save this country and anybody who believes otherwise is simply ridiculous….

m.m   January 9th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

Glen, the superdelegates are some kind of check and balance against potential abuse and conspiracy. for instance, imagine a conspiracy from a competing party to subvert the democratic choice. in that case, the superdelegates could be used as a counterbalance. SUPERDELEGATES are individuals that have proven their loyalty to the party by being committed to its philosophy for a substantial period of time. someone who votes today in a democratic primary is not necessarily a proven party loyalist; for that person may vote for another party coming next election. so leaving everything to mere voters may not be a wise party decision. hence, the necessity of superdelegates.

sri   January 9th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

When Bill clinton said it is a fairy tale, he is immediately condemning all those black people who saw Obama win Iowa caucucs and became hopeful that something can really happen. Other day I saw a columbia ph.d. student on Charlie Rose. She was covering Obama race and at the end of the program, her eyes teared up about the possibility. If you play these against Hillary's tears, you will know which are genuine; which tears are exploting the basic instincts of human race.

marguerite manteau-rao   January 9th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Thanks for setting Bill straight.

I am a huge fan of Bill, except in his role as husband supporter of Hillary. We need to turn the page and open a new chapter with Obama. Step aside, Hillary, please.

http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com

ZH   January 9th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Bill, it is such a shame to twist.. I saw you saying the rubbish. you lost my respect. you atre not any different from those ugly politicians…

Hope, Seattle, WA   January 9th, 2008 10:45 pm ET

So, not only is Obama responsible for his own position, but for Oprah's as well? I love how the only person not responsible for their position on any issue is HRC. Isn't she promising the same things that her husband promised in 1992? For those calling for an investigation into the Obama, be careful what you wish for, because when the investigations begin they will also include Mrs. Clinton and her so-called husband. If she breaks down because she was losing a primary what will she do when the Republicans come after her during the general election. The reality is that the in-fighting between these two candidates is going to ensure a Republican victory in November. The Clintons have already begun slinging mud and Obama will have to sling back in order to stay in the race; and after watching the Republicans on television tonight they are re-energized and salivating at the opportunity of running against HRC. And to those who have gone on and on about experience, if that is the case then shouldn't Dodd, Richardson, or Biden have won? Your argument doesn't hold up, but I suspect you know that.

Paul   January 9th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

here's an interesting take on how the new hampshire upset took place:

Secret Strategy by Evil Boo

justwaitandsee   January 9th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST BLOG IN HISTORY……I RETURNING BACK TO THE NYT AND FIRST READ….I SHOULD HAVE KNOW ALL THOSE SELF SERVING BLODS THAT APPEAR ON LOU DODD SHOW…

MY GOD THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST BLOD

t.h.   January 9th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

People here need to calm down and do some research. Obama just gave "vague" suggestions about being anti-war? Please. Read the speech!

http://www.tnj.com/archives/2004/september2004/final_word.php

It's amazing how much uninformed hatred this medium generates. I hope we all can be more responsible

fred   January 9th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

People, if you agree with free trade, NAFTA, and the WTO, then by all means, vote for Clinton, Inc. If you agree with energy company consolidation (e.g. oil), telecommunications consolidation, media consolidation, as well as defense industry consolidation, (Which all started under Bill's watch.) then by all means, vote for the Clinton political machine. I don't understand why experience is such a big issue in this election cycle, considering we have had probably the least experienced, as well as unqualified president in the history of our country. (and he was elected twice!!!!) I don't know if Barack Obama is the right man for the job, however he has not been in politics long enough to be corrupted by the system. I think what this country needs more than anything is not change, (They all say that.) but some different people in these positions of power. So even though he was not in the Senate to make some of the votes that are being debated currently, the bottom line is he didn't vote to go to war in Iraq, or the Patriot Act, or many of the other bills that infringe on our citizens civil rights. (Unlike Hillary…. ) I urge everyone on this blog to go out to http://www.senate.org and research both candidates voting records. I think it should be obvious who the most deserving candidate at that point….

Mike   January 9th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Funny comment about Obama but Hillary Clinton was the one who cried her way to a win. Is she going to broker peace in the Middle East by shedding a few tears or perhaps having some other kind of tantrum?

esad49 in Denver   January 9th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

I believe there was a coordinated, mini-swift boat by the Clintons that took the Obama camp by surprise. He was mislead into believing he had an insurmountable lead and let both Clintons hammer away (I believe they are both running for the job now). Obama is smart enough to not let that happen again.

Everyone should take a hard look at the opportunity we are being presented and reduce the pointless bickering about who says what. I do not want another 4 to 8 years of gridlock, partisan bickering, and endless BS. Does anyone truely believe the Republicans will work with her? We need new blood at the top to have any hope in breaking this gridlock.

John, Honolulu   January 9th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Wow, reading through some more of these comments, I'm struck dumb at the really appalling state of some American's cognitive abilities and apparent lack of civil discourse — it seems that to a lot of the Hillary supporters it's not enough to take on a competitor; one has to insult, demean, and try to utterly dominate and defeat them. Shame, shame, shame on you people. A (justified) hatred of Bush has poisoned your souls to the point that you can no longer treat an adversary as human.

Michael   January 9th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

I am sick and tired of all the whining and rationalizing today coming from the media who got it wrong. Calling Clinton's victory last night a stunning defeat for Obama is patently absurd. Has everyone forgotten he still leads her in delegates? He got the same number of delegates as her last night and that is hardly a "big win" for Hillary. Two percentage points is not even a landslide by Bush standards.

Hank   January 9th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Poor little boy, get used to it.

Michael   January 9th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Why isn't Bush settled to President election. Of course I would vote him instead of the other candidates. Is there somekind of official valid maximum time period for president's incumbent.

John, Honolulu   January 9th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

To Mike from Waterbury: uhh, I think you should look at the context of what Obama said and when he said it. He was clearly referring to the fact that his position in 2004 was that the troops should not be pulled out immediately, which was obviously the same position Bush had. If you used your brain you would have understood this without me having to inform you. Try harder next time please.

Anonymous   January 9th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

Poor little boy. Get used to it!

S.G.S   January 9th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

The fact remains – The media includes cnn – played billy-boy's LIE all day long – before trying to correct that lie ….

Let's don't forget all there life's – billy-boy been out-sorcing his willy and hillary has been lying about it …

So are we going to put the same-ole liars back into the white-house ????

……..

Michael   January 9th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Mr Bush has done all the Best for America.

kobe   January 9th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

wow,so finally wolf blitzer and the people at the clinton news network got something to be cheerfull about.so what's up with so called first black president's attacks on the junior senator from illinois?him and his family are the establishment,they own the democratic party!!and as for the former first lady,she crying because she loves the country so much that she thinks anybody else apart from her will destroy the country?gimme a break!!congratulations blitzer and cooper and oh when is cooper gonna do another story about the third world for some pain comfort for himself?!!

Ohio Democrat   January 9th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

The Clintons panicked response before New Hampshire just shows how low they'll go to win. What, with their false mailers about Obama's abortion stance, playing on the fears for Obama's safety. The way they ridiculed hope and idealism, Hilary using her gender to play on peoples emotions.
We don't need any of that. Ever since Nixon this country has been all political games-power plays-. Let's end that tradition by stopping those who play the game.

Anonymous   January 9th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

The Clintons panicked response before New Hampshire just shows how low they'll go to win. What, with their false mailers about Obama's abortion stance, playing on the fears for Obama's safety. The way they ridiculed hope and idealism, Hilary using her gender to play on peoples emotions.
We don't need any of that. Ever since Nixon this country has been all political games-power plays-. Let's end that tradition by stopping those who play the game.

Dana - New York   January 9th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

How about we leave our spouses at home and run for president like big boys and girls? Let's take Bill out of the picture, and you're left with Hillary. Just Hillary.

Let's say…God forbid but…on the second day of President Hillary Clinton's presidency, Bill suffers a heart attack and passes on. Still feeling OK about her running the country? Alone?

pmoja   January 9th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

i hope all the hillary supporters get hillary as president (the one term wonder) bill & hillary they are a lie they don't even like each other this is the deal they made he would help her be president and you folks hate black so much you would put a fraud in office before him…. wow thats ….
"let's save pessimism for better times" stay positive, peace

Concerned American   January 9th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

I was searching on-line for some answers to what seem to be a lot of peoples concerns. I found a new web site by a new political author and radio host, http://www.shallsetyoufree.com. This guy seems to on the edge of answers.

scotty   January 9th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

listen up people
that tidal wave and the 12 point lead was dreamt up by the media to go after Hillary
throughout this whole process it has always been acceptable to go after Hillary so visciously but not after pretty boy Barak how about their hairdoos and their ties or suits???? John Edwards wife had plenty to say so why can't Bill
and if he wants change why does he want peeps from the Clinton administration including Hillary to join his cabinet if he would be elected – you know why? they were successful in achieving change and wow oh wow they have EXPERIENCE which he lacks- speeches are great but actions speak louder than words where are the plans????
and what was so bad about the 8 years Clinton was in office
the middle class was put back to work and prospered house values skyrocketed
people respected Americans- and we were still manufacturing and new jobs – the U.S. never had it so good-were being created instead of being Chinas consumer
and if you remember one of Bills inaguration speeches he said we needed vehicles to achieve 40 miles per gallon
and the only reason why healthcare revisions failed for Hillary is because the Repugs threw her out and told her to go bake cookies that is how threatened they have always been from her and in spite of all that she has still reached across the isle to date and worked with them and you know what they actually like her
this is the reality not the fantasy I hope all Americans are real happy with the Bush regime

Michael   January 9th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Iraq incident isn't war, it is a battle against to terrorist of Iraq. Reference what Mr Bush has said.

Ed from Richmond, Va   January 9th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Barrack, I read both your book, you're okay but…..You started this fight and the Clintons will end it with Hillary in the White House. Quit crying and be a man. By the way, I'm African American.

gabld   January 9th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

I was excited by the promise of Bill Clinton's presidency and tried to put the best face on his and Hillary's betrayal of that promise. However, I became totally disgusted by their behavior this last weekend. Hillary's crocodile tears for herself and us poor people who may not appreciate how she could save us and Bill's nearly psychotic behavior was appaling. I do not see how anyone can see her chocking up as "humanizing." I love New Hampshire but its voters let us down.

SeanO   January 9th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Am I the only Democrat who is absolutely disgusted by the tone and rhetoric coming out of all these Clinton supporters? It's not just this blog either.

These people sound like Republicans in '04. This is like Karl Rove pt 2. It just sickens me.

Candace   January 9th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

Karen, it appears to me that you've collected the superficial attack points against Senator Obama from the web without having studied the issues yourself. Here's my response to the 4 specific voting records of Senator Obama that you pointed out as somehow anti-middle. If you study them carefully, you'll realize that you couldn't be further from the truth.

1. The Class Action Fairness Act of 2005 (CAFA) addressed some of the abuses practiced by class action lawyers AT THE COST of their clients and consumers that they purport to represent by requiring stricter federal scrutiny in class action settlements, e.g., coupon settlements and attorneys’ fees awarded to class counsel. This legislation, although it’s against my own interest as a class action lawyer myself, was necessary to avoid the type of cases where attorneys’ fees exceed the relief to the class members (the consumers about whom you are concerned). Most class actions settle, and the class action attorneys previously had wide latitude and often unfettered discretion on fashioning settlements, with state courts rubber stamping the proposed settlements which often gave pennies to the consumers and the attorneys took millions. See, for example, the case of Kamilewicz v. Bank of Boston. CAFA addressed these issues to ensure that the consumers would get a fairer share.

2. As far as the credit card 30% interest cap that you refer to, the proposed amendment that you refer to was to S. 256 which, contrary to what you say, was lobbied by credit card companies including MBNA Corp., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and the finance units of General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. On the other hand, the bill was OPPOSED not only by Senator Obama but by consumer protection groups such as the National Consumer Law Center, Consumer Federation of America, and civil rights groups such as Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. The opposition to the bill was based on the opinion that the bill was a package put together by financial institutions and their lobbyists and would plunge millions of Americans into bankruptcy and would be ruinous to middle class and low income families. Senator Obama opposed the whole bill, Senator Clinton was absent for the vote.

3. Nomination of Thomas Griffith was part of a bipartisan deal that dealt with a predictable set of conservative judicial nominees and amidst talk of a filibuster showdown and counter threat of Republicans to use the nuclear option of doing away with the filibuster against judicial candidates. Griffith, as it turns out, was one of the less objectionable candidates on the slate. At the time, Senator Kennedy stated that the Senate had narrowly averted a crisis: “It does seem to me that the American people want us to get on with the people's business. This has been an enormous distraction.”

4. As far as the fair trade agreement issue, I assume you’re referring to CAFTA. I hope you know about what NAFTA has done to American workers. If not, please study the issue. I’ll let Senator Obama speak on why he opposed CAFTA in his own words from his senate webpage:

“There are real problems in the agreement itself. It does less to protect labor than previous trade agreements, and does little to address enforcement of basic environmental standards in the Central American countries and the Dominican Republic. Moreover, there has been talk that, in order to get votes from legislators from sugar-producing states, the Bush administration may be preserving indefensible sugar subsidies that benefit a handful of wealthy growers and cripple Illinois candy manufacturers.

But the larger problem is what's missing from our prevailing policy on trade and globalization–namely, meaningful assistance for those who are not reaping its benefits and a plan to equip American workers with the skills and support they need to succeed in a 21st Century economy.

So far, almost all of our energy and almost all of these trade agreements are about making life easier for the winners of globalization, while we do nothing as life gets harder for American workers. In 2004, nearly 150,000 workers were certified as having lost their jobs due to trade and were thus eligible for Trade Adjustment Assistance–and this number doesn't even count service workers like janitors and cafeteria employees.

But this is about more than displaced workers. Our failure to respond to globalization is causing a race to the bottom that means lower wages and stingier health and retiree benefits for all Americans. It's causing a squeeze on middle-class families who are working harder but making even less and struggling to stay afloat in this new economy. As one Downstate worker told me during a recent visit, "It doesn't do me much good if I'm saving a dollar on a T-shirt at Wal-Mart, but don't have a job."

And so now we must choose. We must decide whether we will sit idly by and do nothing while American workers continue to lose out in this new world, or if we will act to build a community where, at the very least, everyone has a chance to work hard, get ahead and reach their dreams.”

JV   January 9th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON!!!

Think about it America! If you really wanted change you could actually get it if you weren't so pathetic.

The Clintons should be in marriage counseling or should have divorced long ago. They are fooling all of you! Wake the hell up. Who care's what Bill Clinton, a President who lied right to your face, has to say. Why does he have ANY credibility. Yeah, I voted for him twice but after he lied I now call his integrity into question.

Have you noticed how NOTHING has really changed? The candidates are still talking about health care, fixing social security, tax-cuts, bla, bla, bla

NOTHING HAS CHANGED! It's the same set of problems every election cycle.

The only way to change it to take a new course insane people. You keep doing the same thing expecting different results.

zero   January 9th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

It shouldn't be any surprise…Bill has a long, long history of twisting and bending words around to fit his argument. And he's always had the charisma to make even rational people believe in it. It's really his natural talent. That's probably the real reason that we Democrats even put him in office in the first place, because those who knew his game also knew how easily he could hold his office with such a gift.

Ann   January 9th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Bill Clinton will take more than liberty with your words, Obama. The Clinton's are street brawlers, guttersnipes and play dirty. I hope you can withstand the onslaught that will come for your audacity of getting in Hillary's way to her predestined position in the White House. God be with you.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 9th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

"you can praise the fact that you dont have an airplan wing in your livingroom. That 50% could have been 0% if you looked up at the towers and said "Oh that sucks, oh well, life goes on, hope they dont do it again tomorrow!"
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If the huge, overwhelming majority of Bush's 50% increase in debt was due to catching the responsible people so they couldn't do this again, that would be fine. But instead the vast majority of money is gone because Bush gladly invaded a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 and anyway, as he said, he "wasn't that concerned" about bin Laden.

No one should believe that the huge spending is the sole cause for not having a SECOND attack on America on Bush's watch. The 50% increase has not come remotely close to preventing foreigners from easily crossing our borders. If we are to pass out credit, we owe some degree of thanks to Mexico and Canada for preventing terrorists having easy access to points where they could just walk or swim into the United States.

Joan Utterback-Embden   January 9th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

I'm thinking that maybe there is another, more significant, reason for the discrepancy between the pre-vote surveys in New Hampshire and the actual outcome for Obama vs Clinton in the primary there. Here's my thought: A large number of votes for Obama was expected to come from college students. I would think it would be significant to note that college students are probably on break and not around to vote in the scheduled primary. The question I am posing is why , then, would the NH primary be scheduled when it was – especially so close behind the Iowa primary? Was this deliberate? Was it a strategy to certainly affect the outcome?

JW   January 9th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

I love this. All of a sudden, when the pollsters and media were dead wrong, they are spinning it in so many ways, as is the Obama camp, to say this was just a fluke upset. What a bunch of dimwits. I guess pollsters and media folk don't think the public becomes tired of constant polling and start lying just to get them away. I lie constantly to pollsters, whether by phone or online.
The problem I see now is that some media people, specifically on MSNBC, are starting to use the race card. Chris Matthews is one guy who pouted all night last night as the results came in. His arms were crossed and he looked more stunned then he usually is. He was trying to find anything to show he wasn't wrong, that the voters got it wrong. Then Chuck Todd showed up. Todd is the one who started Matthews on his insinuation that NH voters are racist in a desperate attempt to move it off the fact he also got it dead wrong! He said he wasn't saying the people of NH were racist, but you have to look at these things, and then Matthews gets right in there. Look at his show tonight, that's where he flat out would not agree with Buchanan and Dee Dee, but sure agreed with the Black Professor who threw a hissy fit. He should've done the Obama is the greatest thing since JC like he did on YouTube. Remeber the people in Rangoon will be talking about Obama's win?
The Morning Joe crew just wanna make me puke (now wonder they're last in the ratings among the 3 news networks). Get rid of those guys, but keep Keith O!
No wonder people don't trust the media.
Rate the following: Lawyers, Politicians; Political Pundits;Snake Oil Salesman! Give me a Snake Oil Salesman anytime.

CE, Wisconsin, USA   January 9th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

I believe Bill Clinton. Of course I believed him when he said "I did not have sex with that woman…."

Bart   January 9th, 2008 8:57 pm ET

Hillary has experience; Obama does not.

Hillary Clinton is by far the greater candidate.

Jensen   January 9th, 2008 8:57 pm ET

"Barry" Obama (the name he used while growing up, by the way), needs to stop his "crying". He is also going to have a lot of explaining to do, when people start to look into his history. He wrote an interesting book back in the mid 1990's, in which he describes his drug use ("blow" and "pot", but "not smack"), in pseudo-street language, saying that he used these drugs to cope with his stress of being a black man in a white man's world. In reality he went to an elite high school in Hawaii, where there were plenty of mixed race students (after first going to an Islamic elementary school.) He seems to have no problem playing the "race card" in his favor, when convenient.

Gilbert Reed   January 9th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Here in Illinois, both Hillary and Obama are favorite sons, (daughter?). Maybe Hillary even more, as she was raised in Park Ridge, right next to Chicago, and Obama grew up in Honolulu, and Indonesia. He was a civil rights lawyer here in Illinois, before entering politics. His Senate race was easy when his Republican opponent, Jack Ryan, withdrew, because of a sex scandal. 12 weeks prior to the election, the Republicans brought in Alan Keyes, an African American Republican from Maryland, to replace Ryan on the ballot. So, of course Obama won in a walk. Now for Oprah’s support. What is not publicized is Oprah’s support for the Iraq Invasion. She devoted a portion of her show, and let Judy Miller, and the Iraq Invasion propaganda bunch rail about Iraq’s WMD arsenal, which did not exist. She pushed Judy Miller’s book on germ warfare, and cut off a audience member that questioned the coming invasion. Obama’s opposition to the Military Authorization? I live in Illinois, and didn’t hear anything about it, or from him, at the time. I believe the media would have taken him apart if he had been very vocal in his opposition.

william walsh columbus ohio   January 9th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

im not sure obama can do it,im not even sure that hillery can do it, but in regards to the post that if you dont vote for obamma then vote for romney or MCcain?gulioni? edwards, good god man! get some help!, maby,just maby, edwards could do something but i doubt it,but the rest of these guys are,
well you could go mc cain,he backs bush on the war, and hes like 120,yrs old not to mention he owes, if elected its,politics as usual,,no thanks,romney? he just says what you want to here, hes so back and forth how could you even keep up with him? well unless your his barber,, gulioni,this guy is a total waste,, of all the canidates hes not even worth the min to think and say no,the field is set and theres very little to pick from, but another 4 yrs of a money spending,self indulgent administration, is just tooooooo much,we dont care about abortion,do what you need as long as you can live with it so can we, we dont care if your gay, just dont push yourlifestyle on others and we could care less, unless you just cant get the picture of it out of your head ,then you need help not the gay people,we want gas prices down, a leader to develop a new fuel, get us out of iraq, and leave these fricking countrys alone, get some strong companys back in the u.s, and deport all these frickin imigrants out of this country, thats what the american people want, and while your at it, do an early retirement for the house and congress to get these prehistoric pompus asses out of the 18th century way of thinking and bring things up to date, windows updates every few days to keep up,its time to move forward, or get out of the way! what is so hard about making change? you are the we the people! take it back and make it better,obama,hillery,edwards, anything else is what you have now,

wow.   January 9th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Some people really are just dimwitted. First of all, Obama DID respond to Bill Clinton's lies and he did so before the New Hampshire primary. He didn't respond like a baby; he stated calmly and clearly that Bill Clinton has and will continue to take his quotes about the Iraq war out of context. Second, although he was not able to vote against the war, he spoke out against it from day one. Also, he has not once changed his opinion on the matter. Voting for funding of the war does not make him a flip flopper, it simply signifies that he is not willing to abandon the troops. That is all.

Third, Obama is not behaving like a sore loser, he is simply clearing up the facts. As many of these comments show, people have actually been foolish enough to listen to the Clintons' lies about him and so it his job, as A CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENCY to counter their statements. Fourth, the Clintons are proving themselves more and more to be negative influences on the country. Barack Obama has tried his hardest to run a positive campaign. Even when he was a clear underdog and the hillary juggernaut was moving forward with its "in it to win it" nonsense, he kept his cool and continued to promote his message (which, by the way, is not simply the word CHANGE. he actually has an idea about how this country should be run. try READING about it: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ ). However, as soon as Hillary suffered a setback, the claws came out she she showed her true colors as a scrappy politician who will do anything to win.

To win New Hampshire Hillary Clinton had to run a campaign of deception, low blows and crocodile tears. And then we have bill (who I have respected for years, but who seriously needs to get a grip – his wife isn't that great) who blatantly LIED about obama's record and called obama's success the biggest fairy tale ever. give me a break. What really is the fairy tale is that he and his wife seem to think that they are truly entitled to the White House.

Honestly, obama has forced even the republicans to stop in their tracks and acknowledge that he is a true threat because he has a positive message and he appeals to the public. i've read so many articles about how one special thing about obama is that he truly believes that he can work WITH the citizens of this country to effect change. it's not all this, me me me me me nonsense, he's all about using "WE". He's a visionary leader and i hate that people just jump to the conclusion that he's not qualified just because he has high hopes for the country. HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT because all she cares about is herself.

Especially great was how, through her tears, she proclaimed, 'some people are right and others are wrong'. Hmm, so you're right and obama is wrong. good one. That's the spirit, the clintons can never be wrong because they are, of course, omniscient. she just wants to win a race, and if she has to cry to do so she will. if she has to claim that obama doesn't stand up for abortion rights, she will. if she has to argue that obama is a flip flopper when it comes to Iraq, she will. She played dirty and it worked in her favor. but does this really bode well for our country? great so yet another politician shows that simply being yourself doesn't work. instead you have to be scrappy and pretend to be a tough guy or a pansy little girl (please, 'i still try to watch my weight, sniffle, sniffle, and watch what i eat, sniffle, sniffle.' biggest load of nonsense i've ever seen) in order to appeal to everyone.

That whole, 'tears that rocked the world,' bit is NONSENSE. the media took this crap story and went running with it and suddenly every headline is basically, 'woah, hillary has a heart?!' oh man such a joke. i can't believe it actually worked. and everyone tries to say that the press doesn't pick on obama enough, but HE IS NEWER SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS LESS TO CRITICIZE (interestingly, bill clinton was in the same boat when he was running in 1992 – new guy, big ideas – so i love how now that he and hillary are old, he's all about, wah wah wah my wife has been around longer). moreover, is it such a bad thing that someone is ACTUALLY a good human being with a pretty decent record? i don't think so. what a pity. i seriously PRAY that obama can pull through in the end.

ted   January 9th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

Dont anyone be fooled by the Clinton name. Bill and Hillary are two different people and for people to think that Hillary will be as good a president as Bill is a big mistake. Besides, Bill had his ups and downs too.

Another dynasty??? Do we want another Clinton in the white house? why don't people open their eyes and see through Hillary like I do. A woman who will do anything, including shedding crocodile tears to get what she wants is very dangerous. Be ware! She claims she wants to help the American people but my friends, we all know there are so many other ways she can do that including being a senator. Yet, she cries as if her world will end if she doesnt become a president.

As for Bill Clinton, he should keep his mouth shut and stop going after Barack. He should be the last person to point fingers after his cheating fiasco in the white house. His words mean nothing right now.

LV   January 9th, 2008 8:36 pm ET

After staying glued to the primary and following all of the fallout for the last 24 hrs, I just have one question:

With all of the media hype over Senator Clinton's "Triumphant Victory" over Senator Obama, why is no one mentioning the fact that Senator Obama has a 1 point OVERALL lead in the Democratic race?

I mean hey, its still early……………doesn't the rest of the country have a say?

Proud to be an American   January 9th, 2008 8:35 pm ET

First, I'd like to congradulate the voters of NH. You showed the media that you have minds of your own and don't let the media or polls influence how you vote.

I was only 50% sure of who I was going to vote for during the primary in my state on Feb. 5th. My vote was a toss up between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama. I was leaning towards Mrs. Clinton because she has more experience and has done good things for the state of New York. Look up her record and you will see this for yourselves. She's been clear on the issues and admits she made a mistake with Iraq. That to me says alot. It can not have been easy to admit that she made a mistake. She voted for it with the information given to her and I,for one was okay with the war (at the beginning) in Iraq with the information I was given. I have 3 family members and countless friends in the military so wasn't looking to send these men and women there to die for no good reason. I also started thinking back to when her husband was president and all of the things that were right with our country then. These are the ones that mattered to me and should matter to all of you as well. When Clinton was in office, (and I know he's not the one running, but she was their with him, so some of his experience and knowledge has to have rubbed off on her) sure there was scandal, BUT our national debt was erased, their were plenty of jobs, our economy was great, , he was well liked by foreign diplomats and still is today, and gas and oil prices were at reasonable prices. Americans were proud to call themselves American when traveling abroad. This is not the case any more. We get whispers behind our backs and odd looks, like they would rather spit on us than talk to us. Don't get me wrong this is not the case everywhere, but it is evident. These are just a few things that worked for me during the Clinton administration. What he did in his private life had no bearing on how he ran this country. I'm not saying what he did was honorable or even right, but he wasn't the first president to get caught in this kind of scandal and he won't be the last.

Then on Saturday night I watched the Democratic debate…that made up mind. I've read on this forum how intelligent and articulate Mr. Obama is, but was I the only one who noticed the stuttering and the long pauses. It seemed to me as is he had to run his answers through mind first before vocalizing them. He kept saying how he was going to make changes, but gave no specifics and believe me I was waiting to hear about these changes he was going to make, and how he was going to make them. I keep waiting for SOMEONE to demand that he give specifics, but as of yet no one has. The media is playing hardball with Mrs. Clinton and using kit gloves with Mr. Obama. I don't believe any of our foreign adversaries are going to use kit gloves with him if he's elected president, so he better grow a spine and soon. And how snotty was he when he told her (Mrs. Clinton) she was "liked enough". Not a good move on his part in my opinion.

Mrs. Clinton on the other hand was articulate and elegant in her answers. She was specific on the issues and there was no stuttering or long pauses. She got angry at one point in the debate which is one of the things I had not seen her do before and I thought to myself, okay she can hold her own when pushed to the wall.

The next day the media started reporting how she was trailing in NH by double digits and all I kept thinking is how once again the American people were letting a smooth talker (George W. Bush) who doesn't actually say anything of substance get to them again. I WAS WRONG. Thank you NH for giving me back faith in the American people to be able to tell the difference between just words and empty promises and actual specifics on issues.

These are just my opinions and observations and I respect anyone who doesn't agree with them, that's what makes America great.

My vote is firmly in Mrs. Clinton column because I believe she might be the only one who can bring the United States back from the brink.

DEBRA   January 9th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

OBAMA, WE DON'T NEED A LEADER THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THE BIBLE ABOUT FOLLOWING A FALSE LEADER. VOTER BEST BE CAREFUL VOTING FOR OBAMA, WE NEED A PRES. WHO BELIEVES IN GOD.
I THINK BILL CLINTON WAS A GREAT PRES., HILLARY WILL MAKE ANOTHER GREAT PRES.
WHERE CLINTON WAS OUT PRES., WE WAS NOT AT WAR.
PRES. BUSH IS TO STUPID. WHERE IS HE RIGHT NOW? WHEN HE NEEDS HERE IN THE U.S.A. HE IS OUT SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS.
PEOPLE HAD JOBS WHEN WE HAD PRES. BILL CLINTON,
LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORYS MOVING OUT OF THE U.S. PEOPLE LOSING JOBS. BECAUSE OF BUSH.
I THINK HILLARY CAN BRING US OUT OF THE MESS BUSH HAS GOTTEN US INTO. VOTE HILLARY IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE U.S. BACK LIKE IT WAS WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRES.
WE SURE DON'T NEED OBAMA OR ANY OF THE OTHERS THAT A RUNNING.
ONE IS RUNNING AND WINNING IS SO OLD, HOW IS HE GOING TO MAKE IT 4 YEARS. CAN NOT EVEN COMB HIS HAIR, MY GOD, DON'T THIS TELL THE VOTER SOMETHING ABOUT HIM.
WE SURE DO HAVE SOME DANDIES TO PICK FROM. GOD HELP US ALL…..

Wild Bill/Sweet William   January 9th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

Show me a man who wants to go to Washington to change things and what he offers to do this with is Hope, Unity and Bipartisanship and I will show you a man going to a brass knuckle brawl armed with only good intentions.

Gary   January 9th, 2008 8:32 pm ET

Hillary ONLY won a small state over Obama by 2 percent! Relatively speaking, SHE lost to him in Iowa by 9 percent, much more obvious, and a larger state, with much more up for grabs. HE still LEADS with delegates.

We know all two well how the old-school politics are. I want change. Obama, an American man, running for an elected office to represent US, and the U.S., clearly is change, with his attitude, his style, and I believe, like others do about "people mocked about people with minimal experience", that regardless of what he knows once he gets into office, is relavant, but his convictions, passions, and the people he will surround himself with to bring about that change WILL WORK FOR US, and the U.S.

Everyone, just think about where you were, say two, five, ten, or twenty years ago, and where you wanted to be. The serious ones, with serious conviction, and passion GOT there! He will too. We need him as a leader, as an inspiration, and for change, for GOOD. It's time!

I don't want 8 more years of "her". We've seen that movie, read that book, and saw the article, somewhere, right?

Signed,

Former diehard Reagan Republican!

JA   January 9th, 2008 8:23 pm ET

Obama welcome to the "BIG DANCE" … how are you going to change that??
Any specific answer will do.
I guarantee if you had answers for exactly how you will change things besides uniting people you would probably win. I think you are a few years ahead of your time. Also, I would stay out of debates that bring up anything to do with foreign affairs….those questions will kill you.
Hey people… ask questions…. demand answers from all the candidates.

James   January 9th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

It bothers me how people think that someone has to be from Washington to be president. Its a shame what this governmental system has done to people believing in Clinton nonsense.

sade   January 9th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Perhaps if hillary spreads her tears across america she will win the nomination, otherwise I dont think she really has a chance.

Rich   January 9th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

It is past time for the media to stop giving Obama a free pass.

He does exactly the same things columnists and reporters accuse the Clintons of doing: doing everything he can to win, using surrogates as attack dogs, changing his positions to pander to particular groups of voters, etc…

The only difference is that Clinton gets called on all of these while Obama is allowed to slide. It is political correctness writ large.

Hardy, FL Voter   January 9th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

Oh yeah, by the way, once upon a time all the candidates were "Rookies in da Game" When it comes to being The President, unless you are running for re-election for the The Presidency, no one has any experience on running the country.

Darrell   January 9th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

Cry,

Trick or Treat

N.H. Women Tricked ( Right)

Hillary got the Treat

I did not see hillary sniffle during the many Clinton W.H. Scandle

Ha Ha New Hampshire — You may have gaurenteed a republican victory. His politics (Divider) unlike husband. Obama and her husband connect with all people. The Dem for will be split with this type of Trickery on her own Dem.

Dems are Falling for anything

akm   January 9th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

Bill Clinton lies! Period!

Hillarylover   January 9th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

JACK, NY, NY January 9, 2008 7:36 pm ET

Obama is a cry baby. Yesterday he was acting like a winner ready to take on WH. Walking with box of pizza in his hand, shaking little girls hand in a coffee shop. His reaction to Clintons remarks- "they are getting desperate…..blah blah….still confident he is wining…going on wining HOPE….then REALITY hits in…he lost….then he starts whining. …..NOW THAT IS WHAT OBAMA IS ..OBLIVIOUS AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE EVEN MORE DILLUSIONAL…..hanging on with poetry of HOPE…..not thinking about the reality.

Jack Jack is BACK. I have missed reading your comments. I haven't seen them – maybe I just have been skimming through these too fast. I agree. Obama is a huge cry baby.

Jimmy   January 9th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

And how many times has Obama took liberties with Clintons words. Remember CNN Barrack's personell news service. Some of us have been following this race since it begun.. Obama tries so hard to make it sound like he is being picked on. Well if you can not handle it on the campaign, how in the world does he expect to handle it as President. BOO HOO for crying Obama.

Hardy, FL Voter   January 9th, 2008 8:08 pm ET

I am happy for both leading democratic nominees to be. First, for at least recognizing there must be a change and being in the situation the Republicans have put us in, we can't go nowhere but up and forward. So "CHANGE" has to be the primary concern no matter what the issue is. I believe we all know, if we want to exceed in this change, we must keep the White House Democratic, not just for the next eight years, but for at least the next sixteen. Yes, irregardless who our Democratic Candidate is, please, please, please choose the other as your running mate. (Hilary and Obama) We know you are opponents now, but in a few months one will be rallying for the other and both of you are very strong leaders who in the end we will appreciate. Our country is in big trouble and those Conservative Rep. want to keep us locked in the past where all these rich people can keep us at their mercy. So my advice to you Democratic Candidates, stop critizing each others weakness and focus on what each of you plan to do if and when we take over.

Natasha B   January 9th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

KWAME:

It's unfortunate that there are people out there who are so gullible that they'll soak in whatever poison is spewing from the Clinton campaign and parrot it back like a no-brain zombie.

Obama's co-chair is NOT A WASHINGTON LOBBYIST. He is a state lobbyist who has never lobbied for Obama or any federal official.

Perhaps you need a Civics lesson on the difference between State politics and Federal politics. For goodness sakes, pick up a reputable newspaper, heck, just spend some time googling for info.

Don   January 9th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

The article continues a disturbing trend in major media… quoting a one person's side of an issue without including any analysis that supports or refutes it. The CNN article should have told the reader either that Obama was right about being mis-represented or that he was wrong and Clinton was correct in his criticism.

Stagehnd1   January 9th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

New Hampshire voter fraud??????

http://truthseeds.org/2008/01/09/errors-transposing-votes-and-diebold-machines-removed-votes-from-obama-and-paul/

Lauren   January 9th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

To Dan from MA: THANK YOU!! I'm glad to see that someone else is tuned in to what's really going on. People say Obama has no positions, he hasn't laid out a plan, he doesn't make it clear where he stands on the issues. These are talking points, not facts. Obama wrote a 362-page book about his positions, about the issues, about his plan for how America can turn itself around. It is contains well-written, thoughtful analyses of the issues facing this country and how he proposes we make change. If you read the book and disagree with his positions, that's one thing. But the problem is that most people refuse to read a 362 page book about politics, or any book about politics for that matter. They want to be spoon-fed the information by the media, and so they miss out on who these candidates really are.

Obama has more than 11 years experience as an elected official. Hillary has more than 7. There are different ways to dissect this issue of experience, but you have to look beyond the rhetoric.

Clearly, this goes beyond Obama. Hillary would never be where she is today if she wasn't "hopeful" and she has surely inspired many people with her achievements. And perhaps a lot of people don't like her, but it's obvious that many people do.

The candidates cannot knock on the door of every single American and answer his/her questions directly. If you care about issues, investigate. Find out where they do stand. I agree with Dan, that Clinton and Obama (and Edwards) basically agree on most of the issues in a broad sense. In general, they are all working towards the same goal of moving on from the current administration and making positive "change" (see, we all use talking points) in health care and the economy, etc.

For me, it's about being inspired. Words do matter. I've been moved and inspired to action by great books, by interesting stories, and by Barack Obama. That is meaningful and rare. And many people have been inspired by Hillary Clinton. We are all different. We are all inspired by different things. But Obama helps me to see we still have a lot in common. Clearly this is in the face of much evidence to the contrary, as demonstrated in this blog which is a disgusting display of America at its worst. Still, I have to believe you are all here because you care about this country.

Jetking   January 9th, 2008 7:56 pm ET

obama's beginning to see just what the republicans see in the clintons.

bill   January 9th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

funny, how bush can slaughter the English language here and all over the world and the pundits usually write out the proper words that His Highness ruined. But when Obama uses"gonna" you are very precise in writing down "gonna." It must kill you to see someone of Obama's stature and class ruin this circus for you. Try putting your blinders in your pockets for the next 10 months. Who knows, come November you may actual be able to see both sides of an argument…………………..but I doubt it.

Wise   January 9th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Hillary talks a lot about experience. If it was a job interview – which party presidential nomination should more resemble – then one needs to find out whether the 'experience' is the right type. If all presidential hopefulls in both parties seem to agree that "Washington is broken", one can only assume that Hillary's past experience contributed to such an outcome. Is Hillary's past experience really what America need for a more dynamic future? And for all the talk about VP position! Please, excuse me! Party presidential nominations ought to be a very competitive affair, not a give away on a silver plate. Which would happen for Hillary if Obama didnt make any effort.

Ralph   January 9th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Anyone but OBAMA. He lies and he is a dirty politician. Verifiably so.

He's running on audacity because that's all he has. He doesn't have the experience. He doesn't have the kind of grasp of the issues that the other candidates have. It was so obvious in the most recent debate. He kept on stammering and changing the topic when asked something he is unfamiliar with. He makes nice stories but rarely goes in depth because he can't. Without the opportunity to attack, his weak grasp of the issues were exposed.

My opposition to his candidacy is basically because there are better and more experienced candidates than him in this race, and he needs to shed some of his arrogance and lecturing to other candidates somehow holding a false high moral ground.

He initiated the smear on Hillary with opp. research smear (D-Punjab) and that Bill was profiting on 9-11 stuff, yet he never apologized to her. He blamed it on his staff. When someone in her campaign mentioned about his cocaine use, she immediately apologized and the person in question quit his position. Yet, he found a way to lecture her on negative campaign tactics when she personally apologized.

Earlier this year, when Elizabeth Edwards made some statement about unhappy marriage of Clintons and later personally apologized to her, Hillary was gracious and did not do a big deal about it. Where is Michelle Obama’s apology for the smears directed by her against Bill and Hillary?

Hypocrisy, arrogance on top of inexperience are some of the things that come to mind when I think of him. He would serve his campaign a great deal if he learnt some graciousness.

Despite the fact that you have a journalist writing the endorsement, there is absolutely no way to hide the fact that Obama is a lightweight and lacks the experience necessary to run the country. All the Boston Globe were able to highlight was Obama's "intuitive sense of the wider world". And all this because he lived in Indonesia when he was 6 years old. In touting his leadership, they pointed to his position on the nuclear proliferation treaty. Huh?

Contrast with McCain's and Hillary's endorsement where they talk about the achievements and the accomplishements of both politicians.

It only shows that no amount of journalistic skill can hide Obama's lack of competence, and no amount of attacks on Hillary Clinton can change the fact that she is more competent.

kwame   January 9th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

HILLARY WON BECAUSE EXPERIENCE AND SUBSTANCE WILL A;LWAYS TRUMP HYPE AND EMPTY SLOGANS. PERHAPS THE FIRST THING OBAMA SHOULD ENDEAVOR TO CHANGE IS HIS ASSOCIATION WITH HIS WASHINGTON LOBBYIST. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH

LO Traveller, UK   January 9th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

Great leaders need not just vision, they also need enough inner conviction to go after new possibilities they see but that others either aren't gifted enough to see or are too frightened to see or that others have thought was only wishful thinking either because it has never been done or because they have lost their ability to see through dificulties that they haven't themselves got the answer to. The latter is a typical affliction of the boss type. it's the : If I don't already know the answer, it's out of the question syndrome.

Great leaders know themselves well and have learnt to trust their own instincts and not just wait for the "possible" opportunity of experience handed down to them. Great leaders create new experiences.Great leaders listen, hear and reflect and know more than just what they have been told. Great leaders are adept at connecting the dots that others think are unrelated to conjure the big picture.

Great leaders also need to be able to communicate their vision such that it becomes not just their vision alone but the desire of those who have been shown this new possibilites. A great leader instinctively knows that it takes more than one man's multitude of experience (however great it is) to make a truly great nation and so will choose to unleash the talents of the multitude to make the seemingly impossible possible.

From the outside looking in, America is in a rut. Sorry. It has moved from being the place where people with lofty aspirations and complementary abilities beyond which their own home country will let them achieve used to aspire to go to, or wish their home country could become like, into a country resigned to handing over to emerging powers such as China, Russia etc.

An experienced manager will surely handle the "inevitable" handover very efficiently but it will take a different kind of leader to see a different destiny and make that the peoples destination.

It is a great potential leader that believes Amerians have the answers to America's current problems as opposed to any one man's experience.

Of Hillary & Barack, looking from the outside in, I see a natural boss versus a natural leader.

Wannabe bosses think they are owed the position because of what they have done and what they already know from experience. They will typically confuse supervisory role requirements with that of leadership.

what I hear from Hillary is: it is so sad that you guys are about to make a big mistake by choosing somene else because this country that I love so much will fall backwards without me as its President and by the way you guys do owe me the Presidency for all the work I've already done over the years. Just look at my record…. It's so unfair having dedicated all my adult life to serving America that you should even consider a mere newbee over me… sob… sob….sob)

Barack on the other hand appears to me to be is putting his trust in the American people and waking up the American ideal in them. He is engaging them, challenging them and encouraging them to see what he sees and it seems quite a sizeable number of people are responding to him. Are all these Americans stupid?

It remains to be seen whether he has managed to or will manage to get enough support but what is already clear is that change is already happening in this ongoing elections due to the vision and strategy employed by Barack against the old establishment.

1. He was able to see like others around him that there was a substantial number of Americans not involved in America's Democracy. But who believed in these Americans enough to put in enough effort to go out and bring them into the political fray as opposed to simply ignoring them as though they were a lost cause and as though whatever they had inside them that was good for America did not matter. Sometimes too much experience without the gift of vision accompanied by inner conviction (both of which you can't learn in a book or through experience) only gets you too close to the problem that you become unable to even see that it is a problem. To you it is just normal that this people are not participating and are not inclined towards contributing to helping make America more than it currently is.

But are these people not now coming out in great numbers to be counted? I would think that is change already happening…….and happening because they can now see a reason to care that was not there before. Who showed them? Barack…….who made the change? the people.

2. How many people thought Barack would be able to raise enough funding to even meaningfully compete with Hillary without lobbying the usual suspects (the so called lobbyists) for funding?

Bet enough people thought it was a pipe dream but is it not happening?
Who raised the money? not Barack but the people. Who told them it could be done? Barack. Who did it? the people.

3. Now Hillary is going on about change. That was the message she took away from Iowa I seem to recall ……….after she had lost to Barack. She certainly needed that experience to see what the people were yearning for.

For what it is worth, my assessment of Hillary is that she can make America as great as she can see but Barack is demonstrating that not only can he see further than Hillary, but he is waking up Americans to also start seeing new possibilies not just the one handed down by the boss. He can lead Americans to collectively make America as great as Americans can see.

In my young mind, it takes a truly natural progressive leader to inspire and empower the people around him and beyond to propel a democratic nation to perpetual greatness by tapping into the greatness in everyone and not just the boss.

Don't get too hung up on my two cents worth. It's your country. I'm just passing through. Good luck.

JACK, NY, NY   January 9th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

Obama is a cry baby. Yesterday he was acting like a winner ready to take on WH. Walking with box of pizza in his hand, shaking little girls hand in a coffee shop. His reaction to Clintons remarks- "they are getting desperate…..blah blah….still confident he is wining…going on wining HOPE….then REALITY hits in…he lost….then he starts whining. …..NOW THAT IS WHAT OBAMA IS ..OBLIVIOUS AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE EVEN MORE DILLUSIONAL…..hanging on with poetry of HOPE…..not thinking about the reality.

Ralph   January 9th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

What Bill Clinton said is that Barack's only claim of superiority is his opposition to the war (which, IMO is a pretty thin reason for running – nearly half of the people in the US opposed it at that time). On factual examination of the events, however, it was shown that Barack's opposition to the war is less than strident and he has misrepresented Hillary's initial vote and that he has voted exactly as Hillary did since then.

I agree with Bill's assessment.

Edward   January 9th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

God, anyone but Hillary, she will tear the rest of our liberties away and kill our nation. As for her so called health plan that was success, I was the child left behind cause dad could'nt offord it cause it was too expensive.

T   January 9th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Haha now he's complaining. Stop whining, Obama. If you had won NH, you'd still have a hard time getting nominated because of the immense support Hillary has in all the other states. Now that you've lost NH and Hillary has showed how strong she is (winning after being behind by 11 pts in some polls is considered very strong), you have absolutely no chance of winning the nomination.
Obama is so naive. Only easily emotional people vote for him – look at his positions on various important issues.. and you'll find out.. that he has no positions! He doesn't know what he's talking about – he just makes these HUGE promises that are false and can never be implemented. Hillary knows what change is, and she definitely knows how to birng it about.

just me   January 9th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

I think Bill also took liberties with an intern too.

Shannon   January 9th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

I voted for Mr. Clinton, and now I see what my Republican friends were talking about. Makes me sad! "the biggest fairytale" quote was quite offensive to me. What's the fairytale? That an intelligent US African American Senator is running for president! Is that not supposed to happen in America Mr. Clinton? He has no chance because what?! I thought that his dream is exactly what makes America great! What if Senator Obama wasn't running? There wouldn't be much for us to talk about . Just the same old same old.

Alan R.   January 9th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

How can Obama say that he supports Bush's position on the war in Iraq, yet also opposes the war in Iraq? There is nothing wrong with supporting the troops who are already in Iraq, while still maintaing a postion of a slow military pull-back, and traing the Iraq's Police forces to manage their own country.

El Duende, Laguan Beach Calif.   January 9th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Bill Clinton is the only politician in American history who acts like a sore loser when he (Hillary) is ahead. This bloated satyr arrogates to himself the indignant sneers that some usurper should interrupt blood-line sucession. How dare Obama, especially since he is Black; didn't Bill Clintin fool African Americans to this day into thinking that he did anything for them? Bill has beached himself on the sands of hubris.

LJ   January 9th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

In response to Karen. Why is it you do not have Hilary's voting record and just Baarack's.

Why is it the majority of your information comes from two Republican funded Organizations?

If you are going to show Barack's record, then show Hillary's ?

If people want his programs/plans for change, then why do we NOT aks Hillary for the same?

Hillary only NOW wants to appear to be human, personable, finding her voice,etc., because she now knows that her sense of ENTITLMENT as a Clinton did not fly.

Barack's staff MUST be on quick response, and HE must repel the negative remarks and lies from the Clintons. HRC has ONLY held office for 7years…..what 35 years of experience.

Barack supporters MUST get the word out, donate, volunteer and help get the vote out in the next round of caucuses and primaries.

Elie H.   January 9th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Tom her 35years of experience and she voted wrong on the biggest vote of her life! She supported the war and all she says is "It's George Bush's war!" Well she helped him make the case with her vote! Obama oppose the war from the start, and put his political career on the line by expressing his opposition of it in public. Dick Cheney has the most experience in Washington and lead us into a fraud war so ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE WORLD DOESN'T MATTER UNLESS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT JUDGEMENT! HILLARY HAS TERRIBLE JUDGMENT BY FAILING TO ASK THE TOUGH QUESTION BEFORE CASTING HER VOTE FOR IRAQ!

OBAMA 08!

Javian B.   January 9th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

The issue here is that people have said Obama lacks experience, but I can honestly say that he has just as much as experience as Mrs. Hillary Clinton. Being first lady does not count as experience; does Barbara Bush think she should be president next!!!! Why has Bill Clinton failed to show the American people the proper documentation during his term? Are the Clintons hiding something? People have not question Hillary about her experience as well. What has she done for 35 years…..be Bill Clinton's wife, which I must say that must be a challenge! As a voter I don't feel that she doesn’t even have full control over her own campaign. Will this happen if she is president; will Bill take over again???? At this moment I just don't feel she is the stronger candidate because I think the way you run your campaign is the way your run the country, and she has already had numerous problems with that! She is just taking the Clinton name for a ride because we all know if her name was Smith, no one would know her. Obama had to build his name from the ground up and he is a better person for it. I truly believe he is the only one that can really unite this country once again.
Obama 08′

guitarzan   January 9th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Can't support the establishment candidate. Not this time. Not after 28 years of Bush/Clinton/Bush. The next 4 years are going to be about fixing all of the damage inflicted on this country by 8 years of Bush. I just believe that Hillary and Company are too entrenched in the Wall Street/Corporate/Military Industrial complex that has been running this country for far too long.

john turner   January 9th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Those of you who claim Barack has no experience have obviously not taken the time to look at his record of accomplishments. Hillary has been riding Bill's coattails her entire life, and when she was put in charge of spearheading health care reform, she squandered it. This is the "experience" we need? Hillary has taken the most money from corporate lobbyists that continue to dictate our political process. Obama has tons more legislative experience than Edwards or HIllary, and to top it all off, he did it without having being tainted by Washington lobbyists. Face it folks, you can't get anything achieved without building a broad coalition, any legislator worth his mettle knows this. If Edwards the "fighter" or the ever divisive Hildabeast is elected, expect years of partisan gridlock without the turnaround we so desperately need.

grover89   January 9th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

And I will say, that people who buy this "experience" argument from Hillary do a disservice to human capacity for critical thought. Give me a break. How about you spend less time repeating Hillary's campaign arguments and more time actually LOOKING at your own candidate's purported experience. Her resume is fluff, she has no more executive experience than Obama, she has less legislative experience than Obama, and her time in the Senate has been strikingly unproductive (unless you call naming a bunch of buildings after people productive). Obama has a lot more experience fighting for change than the Clintons want to let on, they just expect people to not compare the records. Obama has done plenty legislatively, he has taught constitutional law for ten years (which after our last president should be a prerequisite for setting foot in the Oval Office) and he can bring people together, while Hillary divides. Hillary supporters are the most stubbornly blind people I have ever heard, aside from maybe those last few Bush supporters. YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY RESEARCH THIS FOR YOURSELF, QUIT BEING LEMMINGS!!

Brad Glisson   January 9th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

How about you go read the comments Barack originally made, and then listen to what Clinton said, and you will see it is a FACT that Bill twisted Baracks words. Just like Hillary did with this whole abortion mailing that was sent out accusing Barack of being FOR abortion. Underhanded and shady, I hope Barack comes out swinging and levels the Clintons.

Also need we forget that the Clinton campaign accused Barack of being a crack dealer and a muslim? Also they are already exploring setting up a 527 style 'swift boat' attack ad.

James Sloh   January 9th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Crying is not gonna help you Hillary. it mean you are weak.
it's also mean you doesn't have the strengh to be President.

grover89   January 9th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Wow, the ignorance of people posting on this board is astounding. Way too many people spend way too much time reading from the Hillary website, and far too few people actually researching it and knowing what they are talk about. The Clintons went very negative and very slimy against Obama in those last 5 days before NH.

False attacks on abotion
False attacks on raising taxes
False accusations of flip flopping
Implying that if you don't vote for the opponent, terrorists may attack again.

Who does that sound like? A Republican. I'm ashamed of Hillary and especially Bill Clinton as a former president. This has destroyed my opinion of Bill. The Clintons know they are being disingenuous, they know they are distorting the truth, and they assume that the majority of voters won't know any better. That is a classic Republican ploy, and it is disgusting to see in the Democratic party.

Scared for our country   January 9th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Thank you Karen! People, do your research. Please do not rely on campaign sites for your information or glossed up rally speechs. Our country deserves more than the blind leading the blind! See Karen's post for some great sources.

Roger Evans Colorado   January 9th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

I heard or read that the people in N H were educated people, God help us all if this is a sample of educated people. I don't feel this is a bad mark for education, I feel it is a lack of common sence. Who in their right mind could vote for a Clinton they cheat, they lie, they kill off people who get in their way or try to expose their crimes. If these are educated people voting for a Clinton God please help us we are all lost.

Beans   January 9th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

I hope that Obama will not waste his time defending comments made by the Clinton campaign. It's not worth the time or energy to get off-track, and frankly the public doesn't want to hear all the bickering and negativity. Clinton's know how to get nasty–they are polished politicans and play the game well. How could anyone believe Hillary's tears were genuine. They are nothing less than "players."

The NH returns are being treated as more fabulous than the Iowa returns. Iowa has more electoral votes than NH, and the percentage split between Obama and Clinton was far greater than the 2% she had over him in NH. And what's this BS that the "granite state" puts out…the Iowans pick corn but they pick presidents? Get real…in the 2000 caucuses and primaries, Iowa picked Bush and Gore. NH picked McCain and Bush. Enough said, right?

Keep on keepin' on, Barack! Rise above the Clinton CRAP! We're all behind you. I'm an independent, and this is the first time in my life I've been enthused about a candidate…to the point where I've done volunteer work and am donating $$!

greenpaz   January 9th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Yes, what a whiner Barack Obama is for trying to set the record straight. BIll Clinton twists Obama's words in a craven attempt to get his wife elected (you know, so she can help the people), and now Obama is just supposed to shut-up and take it. Okay…

Bill and Hillary will lie, cheat and steal to get back to a position of power.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Ron S.   January 9th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Psst….Obama.

Here's a tip.

Clintons always lie.

LC   January 9th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Here's the ticket:
HRC President/Obama Vice President – 2 terms then…..
Obama, President/Any one of the Clintons, Vice President – 2 terms

Sweep the war-mongers out of DC for 16 years. It's going to take that much time to make a dent in the mess Bush is leaving behind.

Angi   January 9th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

What is Hillary's experience? She has been a (junior) senator from New York two years longer than Obama, as far as I can tell. Obama has both state and federal experience. My husband has been a CPA for twenty some years, and he calls me his career coach, does that mean I have auditing experience?

Heather, Nashville, TN   January 9th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

LJ, What type of change do you believe Barack is going to bring? Have you read about his home church's beliefs. How that even black conservative Eric Rush has stated that they choose things African over things American. James Cone a much admired figure at Trinity COC has declared that, 'The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people." What about in the Audacity of hope where Obama speaks of hispatriotic resentment and frustration when he feels as if he needs a translator to speak to a mexican mechanic. Is this the type of change you are looking for because you are certainly trying taking us down the road that will send us all down the River……….

Jason of Indianapolis   January 9th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

I was Obama I would be interested in a Hillary Obama ticket! I would only choose a partner with morals!

Lina, Montreal, Quebec   January 9th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

I am from Montreal and watched CNN everyday and followed the day to day outcome of the election campaign. I think the media and the pundits are very hard on her. They should be ashamed of themselves with Hillary's victory in New Hampshire. With her experience and strong foundation and ability on economy and other important issues, I think she is the right person to run the White House. I will be very proud if she win the election and become the first WOMAN PRESIDENT of the United States. LONG LIVE, HILLARY!!!!!

Gina   January 9th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

People keep saying that Obama has no experience, that he was just a junior senator, and only for two years. Obama may have only been a junior senator for 2 years in the US Senate, but he's been in the Illinois State Senate since 1996. He left the Illinois State Senate to become the junior senator for Illinois for the US Senate. Also remember that HRC is also 'just' a junior senator, and I'm sorry, but being married to the president doesn't really count as experience on my part.

(I also have to say, that as a native New Yorker, I'm personally annoyed that she decided to come into our state, get elected as one of our senators, just to use us as a stepping stone for her own ambitions of becoming president. I knew this was happening as soon as she ran for the senate seat. The only thing that surprised me is that she actually waited for the 2008 elections instead of the 2004 elections. My guess is that she wanted to avoid looking 'inexperienced', which is exactly the the charge she repeatedly hurls at Obama. Clever, calculating snake she is.)

Boo Hoo Obama Democratic Nomination ...Not 4 You   January 9th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Justin….would you bend over if a terrorist asked you too? You probably believe we should negotiate with them. Your thinking is quite scary. Oh by the way the terrorist union of the world endorsed Obama a few weeks ago!

Calvin Preddie   January 9th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Wolf Blitzer displayed (on the Situation Room of 09/01/2008) more about Mr. Obama's response to Mr. Clinton's questions about his constancy regarding the Iraq war. He is reported to have stated in 2004, that even though he stated in 2002, before the vote in Congress, that he did not support the war with Iraq, he did not know how he would have voted because he did not have access to the intelligence report.

Is a "judgment" about an important and critical issue as the war on Iraq, that was made at any time by a candidate for the presidency who did not have access to the intelligence report, really a case of "good judgment" based on careful analysis of facts that are pertinent, relevant and important to the making of the decision?

This might be an appropriate question for your file.

Thewatcher   January 9th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

Hillary claims to have experience. Experience doing what? Getting us into a war and then backing it. She hasn't done squat since she has been a Senator. Even McCain fought Bush on the war. He never liked it. Yes he followed his party and went along with it, but you could tell he did not like it. Remember the interview when he said he did not understand why voting on the resolution was necessary. Hillary, that is a different story, she was cool with the killing innocent Iraq citizen, when she thought there might be WMD, but didn't really have proof. Once we were in there and didn't find any WMD, she wanted to keep the killing going. She doesn't care about people. She is a fake.

When she ran for the NY Senate she told the people of NY that she wanted to be a Senator and fight for the people of NY in that role. She denied having eyes on the highest office in the nation. You folks that don't follow politics close don't understand this. Yes, she just wanted to become a senator so that she could run for the office and claim that she was a Senator. When we needed her to fight the hard fight against the tyrant Bush. She did nothing. Pelosi didn't do anything either. None of those powerful gals did squat. Think about that. None of those Present Dems did Squat! Let Bush just run things like a King! Great! just Great! Now we have Americans dead and mamed. Citizens of Iraq dead by the millions. Oh Hillary is doing a Great job! She should elect her as President! Think people.

I am not saying Obama is great. He is better than the rest in the field, because the field is not that good. We do need someone who can talk rather than drop bombs. We need to send this Clinton crew packing. I am beginning to feel bad that I voted for her hubby twice, even though the nation was in better shape than it is now, when he was in office. But that may just be because Bush is crazy.

Tom Davie   January 9th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Face it.

The Obama camp has no SUBSTANCE to draw on. Re read all the posts.

There whole camp is WE HATE THE CLINTONS.

Its never about what Obama can ACTUALLY DO thru his RECORD.

Why would you stick a guy in office who has never made a case he can do the job for crying out loud.

Is your HATRED for the Clintons WORTH sticking a 'forrest gump' in office when we need strong leadership? We just had a forrest gump for 7 years. He CRUSHED the whole country due to his inability to lead the nation.

All this HYPE about Obama will not last. The country is going into recession, and as more negative headlines come up, voters are going to SWEAT BULLETS about the state of the nation and rally behind someone who can DO THE JOB .

If you HATE Bill and Hillary Clinton so much then please:

Please for the love of God, vote for Edwards or McCain or Guiliani or even the idiot Romney. THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO LEAD US at least.

Elie H.   January 9th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

I really LIKED the Clintons , but after that BiG FaT lie by Bill, now i see why conservatives hate them. They're power mongering people. I'm going to volunteer for Obama's campaign, get everyone I know involved, donate and I promise this man with great character will be our future President!

Obama 08!

Joy Broadhurst   January 9th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

Sympathies to the gullible women of New Hampshire–how could anyone believe that Hilary's "watery eyes" was real emotion? Then there was the debate where "her feelings were hurt". The Clintons are sinking to new lows–anything to win.

LJ   January 9th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

In reading the comments on this blog, it is evident that we need CHANGE. There are bitter and viscious attacks against Barack. It is absolutely amazing, that everyone wants Barack to have ALL the PLANS, but asks NOTHING of Hillary or John Edwards.

To have dissenting opinons is fine, that what makes us a Democracy, but the bitterness with which Barack is attacked is that which is based NOT on his rhetoric, plans but perhaps to something else in the air.

Hillary is as phony as they come, I voted for Bill and I once respected him, but no more. Hillary's true colors will come again.

Hillary's campaign now says that they are going to lay it on the line when Barack speaks, but that is not going is negative it will be up o the people to decide. I find that good, then that means that she should be ready for the screening…what actually is her record as a senator and what is her experience.

Will she pretend to cry, will Bill twist words again, what will she change NOW? If you don't see it now, then you should the Reps will always help get her elected so we can lose the WH again.

Dan   January 9th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE….Mr. Obama is there anything else you know how to say?

Erik   January 9th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Richard,
On paper, there was cash, but it was where the cash was going as the Clintons were on their way out that set the scene for a Broke Bush. Now, you can sit there and say that Bush himself increased National Debt by 50%, or you can praise the fact that you dont have an airplan wing in your livingroom. That 50% could have been 0% if you looked up at the towers and said "Oh that sucks, oh well, life goes on, hope they dont do it again tomorrow!"

DAVMON   January 9th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

American wants a new president who has nothing to do with the white house, and they see Hillary Clinton is the same person who has special interest for the lobbyist and that is the reason, we are not going to vote for her.

Black Pride   January 9th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Sorry, but as a Black 60 years retiree, I will never vote again for a Democratic candidate just because. Hillary, you have lost this Black vote. Also, do not think that other Black will vote for you because you are a woman and a Democratic. Your true colors are shinning true. Look for Blacks to start campaigning aganist you and to leave the Party. We need a third party in this Country.

Gerald, Jacksonville, Fl   January 9th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Go Hillary you did a wonderful job. Sorry Obama you loose.

Scott, California   January 9th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Senator Clinton has STILL not condemned that statement. Nor has she condemned President Clinton's slander inferring Obama and his supporters are in "fairyland." We've heard nothing from her. As a result, she implicitly approves both statements (she knows what her husband said, it's been all over the airwaves).

Is this kind of politics what we're going to get the rest of this campaign? This was a former President engaging in the dirtiest kind of slime politics.

If voters implicitly endorse, rather than penalize, this type of politics, we'll continue to get more of it. Isn't anyone sick of this already

fair,washington, DC   January 9th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

It shouldn't have taken Pres Clinton to call Sen Obama on his questionable stance on Iraq. When Obama appeared on "Meet The Press" Tim Russert put 3 or 4 quotes on the screen that Mr. Obama had to eplain "what he meant" because at face value they all sounded like he wasn't so against the war as strongly as he likes to tout now. Don't worry , we'll all get to see it if he wins the nomination, because the Repubs definitely have that interview cued up and ready to roll.

Ida Lula   January 9th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Maybe Oprah can hold your tissues while you whine about how rough it is to play politics with the experienced boys and girls.

anonymous   January 9th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Hello People,

Did you forget that Hilllary also voted for more funding for the Iraq War?

Obama, you keep up the good work and get your people to work hard on finding Hillary's record and everyone that is running against you. So that you are prepared to respond to the issues that they may bring up.

Also, know that I am praying for you everyday…because I am praying for America, and I think you are good for the American People and will do more to inspiring US (The American People) to fundamenal change.

Believe me when I say I have a direct connection with the Lord… he answers all my prayers. Be bless!

garnet   January 9th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Even though i supported Bill Clinton when he was in office (most of the time), his words cannot be taken for certain any longer. He lied once to the entire nation and lost all credibility with the American people. Just because 8 years have passed since his "lie heard 'round the world" doesn't make him a changed man. Why people are buying into his false accusations i don't understand. This too shall pass….

OBAMA '08

Oscar   January 9th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Can Someone please tell me HOW Obama will make a CHANGE?

He keeps saying change but I have not seen how he plans to back up that change…

Talking nice and looking good on TV does not make a President.
What does he stand for??
Who IS Barak Obama????

alli2   January 9th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Everything about this election is about change!!! We have candidates who are not just white men. Having a woman and a black man running is historic. The change has already started. Anyway you look at it, there WILL be change in this country whoever is elected.

Just heard some Kenyans interviewed on CNN saying if Obama gets elected they might be able to get a visa easier. Where does Obama stand on imigration??

Glazed, Detroit metro   January 9th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Again, Every one is wrong but Mr. Obama. Stop crying and take it like you dish it out.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 9th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

"No matter how you look at it, when Bush took over, he was left with the largest mess in US History."
———————————————————
Clinton left a huge surplus for Bush who has increased our national debt by 50%. Do research.

Gobama   January 9th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Tracy Michaels January 9, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Your thinking is noble but naive.

The low down Clintons ARE THE ONES WHO DRAW FIRST BLOOD UNPROVOKED!

Instead of seeking to convince Americans what the shameless and self-destructive Clintons will do for the country (not much), they attacked Obama's person and campaign for America, and why?

Last time we check, SELF-PRESERVATION & SELF-PROTECTION is an essential for ANY human being or group?

The overly ambitious and SELF-ABSORBED Clintons were unable to connect with Americans (and rightly so) in the furtherance of their PERSONAL Clintonian AMBITIONS!

Failing to TRICK AMERICANS, the Clintons sought to APPEAL TO THE LOWEST IN US.

Unfortunately, some Americans do not want CHANGE; through spite, the Clintons are willing to fuel divisiveness, STAGNATION and recession!

STATUS QUO MUST GO!

Pamela in FL   January 9th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

….please, go to the John Edwards website and email him…tell him to not become the "Ralph Nader" of 2008!

Dan   January 9th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

And another thing…..

Journalists, so called political experts are complete idiots! They need to keep their mouths shut and let the voters decide who will be elected. Go Clinton!

SJS   January 9th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Senator Obama.

What are you proposing to make our country energy independent? What is going to happen when our troops are pulled out of Iraq? Are we going to ask the help of Iran to run our economy? Oh! You will request a meeting with the High Ayatola and reason with him!!!!NICE!!!!!
Good luck to you Mr Obama. I hope you would not do that.

LJ   January 9th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Why is my first comment that was posted at 4:23 not posted?

Why did Fox News release exit poll data in the AM when the polls had NOT closed?

Could that have had an impact on the race, because it showed that Barack had 7 out of the 17 votes cast with 4 going for McCain.

Could it be that Murdock is really helping Hillary, because he thinks that the REps can beat her versus Barack.

Can Hillary pull out more tears and hide the real demeanor.

What tactics will the Clintons now pull?

What   January 9th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Laton I'm convince you're the one smoking.

Let see a black man whose parent were white and black whose father left when he was 10, never sees him again; child mothers dies and is raised by his white grand parent in Hawaii.

Take your unsubstantiated comments to another site you know what site I'm talking about.

Douglas   January 9th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Tell Bill to relax…have a cigar !!!

Tom Davie   January 9th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

I am still crackin up at why people want to vote for Barack Obama

He is VERY intelligent, and personable. I like him too.

LIKING the guy and making him PRESIDENT of the most powerfull country on the planet are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I believe folks want obama for 2 reasons.

50% they somehow think a junior senator with vitrually no experience can somehow bring Republicans and Democrats together cause he says so. They think a 'fresh start' is going to give him magic powers to fight the Chinese, and a host of countries that HATE us. They think Obama can somehow magically stabilize the economy and bring GLORY to America when the truth is that the county is sliding into recession and has a LOT of problems.

They put blinders on when asked how a guy with no experience dealing on this kind of national stage and with the stakes this high is going to magically pull all this off.

the other 50% want Obama because they HATE Bill and Hillary Clinton or they are secretly Republicans whom want Clinton out so they can win the election.

The First is Squashed   January 9th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Matt- ITAWU. CNN was a joke last night covering the election. They were the last to call it and kept saying wait wait wait we have to wait for this area and that area and and and. Funny when I looked online at my interactive map, those areas had 4-400 votes only! Obama was going to catch up with a 5k loss? Pfffft!

What   January 9th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

"Maturity begins when we're content to feel we're right about something,
without feeling the necessity to prove someone else is wrong."

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream of things that
never were and say why not."

"The game of life is the game of boomerangs. Our thoughts, deeds and
words return to us sooner or later, with astounding accuracy

When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself."

"Everyone who has ever taken a shower has had an idea. It's the person
who gets out of the shower, dries off, and does something about it that
makes a difference

I didn't want to come off bias and leave Hillary out

Doesn't all this sounds like Hillary, you go girl. .

Patrick, New York,Ny   January 9th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

The truth is coming out. Starting NH, Americans are beginning to understand that in politics, endogenous is more important than exogenous – that reality and fact are more important than rhetoric and body language or charisma without substance. Americans are beginning to understand that Hillary stands for what the President of the USA should be and not Obama with his empty promises. Obama's leadership leaves a lot more questions to be answered but foremost, how can he be an agent of change without experience? How can he change what he does not know? How can he change what he does not have? Experience in economy, healthcare and security are all in Hillary's bag and Hillary can change them for the good of all America. Obama has a bag of experience but it is empty. He has nothing to change.

My prayers and Best wishes to Hillary and I urge all Americans (black, white, oriental, hispanic) to support Clinton because they will never regret their votes. They did it in NH. NH understands that it is issues, not body language, which stands out in this campaign and Hillary is all about issues. Listen to her carefully instead of cheering at her and you will understand just like the people of NH did – the issues matter,

The First is Squashed   January 9th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

What a baby! Took him long enough to cry to CNN he was being hammered by facts.

Ride the wave!! Ooops! It just Crashed!

Jesse, Burnsville, MN   January 9th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

I agree Harold Bishop. I CAN"T BELIEVE OBAMA WAS SWIFTBOATED BY THE CLINTONS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED FELLOW DEMOCRATS FOR CRIPES SAKES. The Clinton's are disgusting and it make's me sick to think that some of my so-called fellow Democrats are sticking up for the Clintons politics of personal destruction (remember this is primary/caucus season, not the general election).

I would vote for Democrats at the local and state levels, but the Clinton's can eat dirt. If my fellow Democrats believe it is important to nominate a divisive agent of status quo, they can reap what they sow with having a Republican president. What would be the difference?

enlightenment   January 9th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Obama is just a kid who wants to be the king. As of now, he is just George Bush, with a much better command of English vocabulary and diction.

And he is not smart either. If he was, he would have parlayed his promise into a VP candidate after Hillary is nominated. That would have given the WhiteHouse for the Democrats for the next 16 years. Another scary prospect indeed:-)

Justin   January 9th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

What will the terrorists will think when a woman is the leader of the most powerful country on the planet? *NEWSFLASH*: Terrorsits are from countries where women are viewed as weak-minded and vastly inferior to men. And she wants to go to Iran and North Korea and attempt to talk to these men about peace?? Its an inconcievable and extremely dangerous proposition.

Even if she was the right person to lead this country, that fact alone is enough reason not to vote for her.

OBAMA '08

nevadamuley Las Vegas, Nevada   January 9th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Mr. Obama,

First of all you've got to say something MEANINGFUL!

If you think the kitchen's gettin hot now, you better go home now, you ain't seen nothin yet Barak.

NEVADA IS CLINTON COUNTRY!

HILLARY NOW!

Helen, Boston, MA   January 9th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

It's ALWAYS a conspiracy against the Clintons, isn't it? If someone disputes their claims, or challenges their integrity, they get hostile, biligerent and ultimately resort to name calling. I find their demeanor disgusting, confrontational and sooooooooooo tiring. ENOUGH OF THESE TWO %$&%$&^&s ALREADY. I am so sick of these two I could spit.

When Hillary and Billy are you going to release the White House papers? Or are they just going to show up on the coffee table a few years from now?

Laton   January 9th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Obama is all about Africa!…..hasn't anyone been to HIS church's website? Haven't you gone to You Tube to listen from Fox News about what comments HIS church says!!!!!!! BLACK THIS, BLACK THAT….AFRICA THIS, AFRICA THAT!!!!!! C'mon Americans do you not know how to do research? Look at G.B. Everyone thought he was GREAT!!! How many people do you have to kill before we realize we MADE A HUGE MISTAKE electing him. After 9/11 and all of the soldiers killed in the Middle East, NO MORE! He CHANGED NOTHING but the POPULATION!!!!! How many people did Billary intentionally kill? What church do they go to? Who cares if she cried, Obama is a SMOKER!!! He is polluting our air. GLOBAL WARMING! I am moving to another country if he gets elected president, God help us. America will now be called AFRICA!!!! PLEASSSSEEEEE AMERICANS!!!! We will never be FREE! Stop complaining about Billary, and do your research on OBAMA!!!!! What do you have to lose, that you made a mistake? Don't do it when it is TOO LATE!!!!!! Don't vote at all if you don't want to educate yourself. Good luck America!

Erik   January 9th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Must I remind the world that the collapse in the econmony (deficit) and the planning for the 911 attacks took place when the Clintons were in the White House? You have to be pretty special to drive the economy into the ground pre "War on Terrorism". No matter how you look at it, when Bush took over, he was left with the largest mess in US History. I don't see a problem with sending the empeached couple back to the oval office.

Snake   January 9th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

HA HA HA THIS IS CRAZY!

CAN WE EAT NOW? YES WE CAN!
CAN WE GO NOW? YES WE CAN!

YES WE CAN WILL LEAD YOU IN THE WRONG DIRECTION..

KEEP GOING-MR. YES WE CAN

Chukwuma   January 9th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Both Hillary and McCain should have experience. Was it why the win in NH. My question is when is time to say thank you for Hillary and McCain for being in Washington all here life. When will they allow the young generation to get the need experience in Washington. Am more interesting in both issuing the respective candidates advice. Washington is no home it is a place to render service to the nation.

Karen   January 9th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Candace, get over yourself. If you are looking to CNN blogsite for serious discussion you are deluded. There was nothing venomous in what I wrote. He is a politician. His campaign is doing him a disservice. I do not like his commercial campaign. His record is going to get looked at. and yes, Damien should site his sources if he wants a serious discussion of the handover to China.

I notice there is no response when voting records are referred to. Of course, I don't use campaign websites for information. Why would I review the votes a candidate wants me to see. I go to the government site and look at all of a persons votes. I have Congress.org in my favorites.

02/05 Obama voted with the Republicans for pro-corp anti-consumer Clas Action Lawsuit Legislation.
03/05 Obama voted for pro-banking anti-middle class legislation when he voted with the Republicans against a 30% cap on credit charges.
06/05 Voted Yes to nominate Thomas B. Griffith. Griffith disagrees with the tests if title IX and Griffith feels the courts got it wrong and is noted for using the words "morally wrong' in reference to these tests.
09/05 Obama voted against laws protecting laws that provide safeguards from unfair trade. Do I really need to continue?

Want a serious discussion about a serious discussion. I didn't notice your focus on the social security issue. Try ssa.gov. Want to discuss medicare? I have medicare.gov it's a good site for history and cahi.org is a good source for an understanding of cost.

People rely on Iraq info from the media. In my favorites… Brookings.edu. It doesn't just have mortality info, but has information on reconstruction etc. It's updated frequently.

I get information on immigration costs from Heritage Foundation but it is more of a right postion so take it for what it is. If you have other legitimate sites in your favorites that you would like to share, I am open to your resources

I look up every interview and article I can find on the candidates to get a feel for what their positions truly are. I don't need campaign websites.

What issue would you like to discuss?

What   January 9th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

"I skate where the puck is going to be, not where it has been."

"An invincible determination can accomplish almost anything and in this
lies the great distinction between great men and little men."

You will never be happier than you expect. To change your happiness,
change your expectation."

"Every memorable act in the history of the world is a triumph of
enthusiasm. Nothing great was ever achieved without it because it gives
any challenge or any occupation, no matter how frightening or difficult,
a new meaning. Without enthusiasm you are doomed to a life of mediocrity
but with it you can accomplish miracles.

Good Leaders make people feel that they're at the very heart of things,
not at the periphery. Everyone feels that he or she makes a difference
to the success of the organization. When that happens people feel centered
and that gives their work meaning

Go Obama keep it up.

Yea of small minds have been warned

Ken, Suitland MD   January 9th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Hey David Anderson (4:33pm), so much for your crying….it looks like you were crying in anticipation of your intellectual demise, as you have bought into the repub-bot slime machine. This, merely because Hillary is in competition with your favored candidate, and Bill is supporting her? Get real. Barak and all the rest are also doing what it takes to get elected. No matter which dem wins, we will finally have a government again promoting the democratic platform…..but you want to slime-away anyway?

Careful, or you will fall off the wagon altogether, and you will be mourning like "lightharry" (4:26pm) and "Chris, Seattle" (4:23pm) : they got the leader they deserved for the last 7 years. Do you want promote that kind of mistake again? These guys like so many other wing-nuts do not even see the problems, and wish them away in a partisan defense of abject failure. For these people the following applies: no brain, no pain.

Fredrik   January 9th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

>He swiftboated Barack.

When did fact checking a candidate vote record and media statements become swiftboating ?
Why dont you keep Barack and Hilary to the same level of scrutinize ?

Benton Nelson, Indianapolis, IN   January 9th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

now if he is crying about people twisting his words around now, what will he be like if he makes it to the general election. he should have known that people would twist his words around. its not like this is his first election. word of advice suck it in and move on to the next state.

john   January 9th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Obama fell victim to the BILLARY double team …Since he isnt running for president, Bill Clinton can basically say whatever he wants and nobody is fact checking. The BILLARY clinton camp knows this so they use Bill to call the possiblity of Obama being president a "fairytale" and the media doesnt jump on it simply because Bill isnt running, (though its hard to tell) . But have no fear, Obama will not be stopped because Bush Lite Billary can shed some tears in a coffee shop. To south Carolina. Yes We CAN..

Ken   January 9th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

It's a Presidential debate you when some you lose some, the idea is to win more than the other guy, or woman, politics has an ugly face, maybe next time Obama will pump out some junk quotes just before the deadline.

Justin   January 9th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

To those who say Obama is all talk and no substance or proof of the change he will bring, here are some numbers:

-Make Government Spending More Accountable and Efficient: Obama will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.
-Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
-Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
-Boost the Renewable Energy Sector and Create New Jobs: Obama will create a federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) that will require 25 percent of American electricity be derived from renewable sources by 2025, which has the potential to create hundreds of thousands of new jobs on its own.

Besides universal healthcare (which she has no reasonable plan for), HRC really doesn't have a strong stance on any issues. Obama has well reasoned and practical plans for every issue facing this country and if people do the research they'll find out for themselves.

OBAMA '08

Dan   January 9th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Experience (which Obama lacks) requires time, effort, and results, whereas most rational people are capable of 'change' where required (including Hillary). Therefore, Hillary is my clear choice …. besides, Barrack is beginning to sound like one of those wind-up dolls with every second work out of his mouth being "CHANGE". He needs to "CHANGE" his approach by putting a little more meat on the bone he's throwing you.

Also, Obama/Edwards 2008 would be as close to Castro/Chavez as you could get. Keep dreaming….

Matt   January 9th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Hilary Billary the media does glorify Obama and slams Hilary when ever they can. Case in point. Todays headline. "Blow to Clinton Campaign: Obama Gets Big Union Endorsements in Nevada". What they don't say is that the last person that ever expected to get thoes union endorsemnts was Hillary Clinton. Thoes endorsements were John Edwards to lose. But the media will spin anything around to work against Hillary.

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Mary,

"We do need a strong canidate who will win the nomination , and Hillary has ALL the qualifications, includeing being a real woman.
It's time people for the woman to be in charge."

I don't know, I'd prefer a blow-up woman to Hillary actually. And why does it have to be just any woman just because "it's time?" that's BS and you know it.

I think Hillary stands no chance if she wins the nomination. The Republicans have been ready for her all along. They laugh at her and throw up nuggets like "Hillarycare". But Obama scares them, which is why they all were talking about him during the last debate, and some *coughROMNEYcough* and Ron Paul are actually trying to compare themselves to him because they see his appeal. and don't forget how many "borrowed" the change buzzword. Not to mention so many people genuinely hate Hillary and/or the Clintons.

unCHANGEd   January 9th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

you were looking for it- now you got it, It will sure come a time when you will ask yourself: why did I have to do it? why did I have to start up with the only Democratic President in the past 30 years? why did I think that I am smarter then him? but that will be way TOO LATE! before you know it this race will be over and you will have enough time to think this over and remember I warned you!

Boo Hoo Obama Democratic Nomination ...Not 4 You   January 9th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

I want a president with the experience and intelligence and the true love of our great country. Not a man who has little to no experience and puts his faith in Oprah to get him elected. He doesn't love America…he would put his hand over his heart during our national anthem. Instead he loves himself and is using his fifteen minutes of fame to run for president!

Susan   January 9th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

I refuse to hand over the keys to this country to someone lacking sufficient experience. The presidency is not a job in training. Go Hillary!!! This is a historical time—first woman president!!

Harold Bishop, NH   January 9th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Bill Clinton's antics have been disguting. He swiftboated Barack.

Debra Allen   January 9th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Senator Obama,

I am so proud of you and honored that a man like you has a chance of becoming the next President of this country. You are the ONLY one of the candidates that truly represents change and they know it. Any of the other candidates represents the same thing we've had, just a different name (in Hillary's case the same).

Keep up the good work, I am praying for you and I believe God's word will prevail Romans 12:7-9. You do all of these beautifully. You are a born leader and you have as much , if not more experience than all the rest. Being a Black man in this country is an experience on it's on.

Families in this country have suffered grossly because of the Adoption and Safe Families Act that Bill Clinton passed. That law was abused to the extent of it even being used in cases were no adoption occurred. Parents rights were terminated at an over-whelming amount, many of these parents were going through the court system to try to get their children back, most of them were not abusers and when the children were abused by the people that the state gave them to, the state and the courts looked the other way. Since Bush has been in the White House, none of these issues have been addressed. Hillary speaks of it taking a Village to raise a child, her idea of a Village for Children in this country is the Government. The Government makes for a poor parent. We don't have Villages in America, the next time she chooses to use an African Proverb, maybe she should try to understand it first. God Bless You Senator Obama

joe   January 9th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Hey Nick A

It is you who should Get your facts straight !!!

I checked mine she (Marianne Pernold Young) told CBS she was going thinking of voting for Obama but now shes voting for Clinton after the answer to her question…She never mentioned she worked for Carter Admin as a Photographer or Clinton election campaign in 92 did she ? You couldnt have plained it better could you ? Liked Obama but is now for Clinton!

Google Marianne Pernold Young and read the cbs story.

Then

She told huffington post she voted for Clinton.

She herself admits that she worked for Bill Clinton in 92

She was a plant !!!!

Yes the guys worked for radio station WBCN The Toucher and Rich Show both guys myspace pages said the are for Hillary Clinton until a story by journalist, Michael McAuliff of the NY Daily News who, followed the pranksters from the speech area and found they had "Hillary for President" stickers, causing accusations they were pro-Hillary plants.

I talked to there friends on myspace who told me yes they are supporting Hillary Clinton! Have bumper sticker on there cars and are wearing Clinton08 pins in a couple of there photo pages.. After the piece by McAuliff one changed his myspace page to pretend he is/was a Republician.. His top friends say different!

The Clintons have been at this game for years what better then to have someone that if its all brought out that you can dissmiss with there just radio station pranksters! Please.

It really makes me sick.

Didnt you find it strange that Hillary asked for the lights to be turned up to show the guys sign ? So every female or older man would say poor Hillary lets vote for her !

"Iron my shirt" to get them all angry and vote for her funny how it wasnt dirty or anything I wonder if they polled women to see what made them more angry Iron my shirt or make my dinner ?

I liked Hillary and Obama till this stunt now im for Obama or Edwards

Change for the better !

Rudy, Ontario   January 9th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

My Dear Mr. Obama. You have critisized others either personally or through your surrogates. Elections are brutta figura. The problem with your loss is because Mrs Clinton found her voice; she said what she stands for including the "ecomony, stupid" the midle class, trade, schools and yes health insurance. Your message is just like Jack Kennedy's. Mesmorizing as a thought for classroom purposes but not practical or with any meat. Because of this nothing happened during his presidency except to plunge America to a war with Vietnam. President Johnson, being practical with a lot of experience did so much more for the country and his legislative heritage cannot be denied. I just feel that you are selling a dream. The electorate is waking up and they will see it for what it is. There is no beef, no reality to your message.

Vick Clarkson with MediaGuide Resources Inc.   January 9th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

“Obama said in 2004 that there was no difference between him and George Bush on the war…” Clinton said on the eve of the New Hampshire Primary. He claimed that the proof was once on Barak Obama’s website, but has since been deleted.

Of course Bill Clinton was right to bring it up in such a timely manner, for the voting would begin in only a few hours–barely enough time for CNN to get the truth out. In fact it was on one of Obama’s many visits to the White House that he first said to George Bush: “You know George, your policy on Iraq and mine are in every way identical: we both support the war in Iraq, and everything else is pure politics.”

It was, as Bill Clinton pointed out, Obama’s fairy tale that wooed us reporters to keep this vital bit of information out of the public eye. We’ve grown so jaded, you see, that we just didn’t have the heart to rain on Obama’s peace parade. So what if we let his lack of substance–the two books, the twenty years in public service, and the litany of policy papers that he’s written–slip by? After all, that kind of thing isn’t our real job these days: our real job is to expose the dirt on Hillary Clinton. Well, old Bill just wouldn’t it slide this time.

Hillary–and you’ve got this coming–I know the media speaks with me when we say that we’re sorry we made you cry.

Tree   January 9th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

I'm curious do we live in a democracy or dictatorship, don't president have cabinet members and advisors to aid them in decision.

I haven't heard either candidate explain how they are going to fund universal health care, stimulate economic growth or a plan to take us from being 29 globally in math and science to leading the world like we once did, or their plan to tackle green house gaseous ….nothing. Arguing over change vs. experience. We are all being bamboozled, Hillary I have 35 years of experience pause… waiting for her to tell me how she's going to use that to stimulate the economy Obama it time for change pause… and how does that improve our educational state in this country.

Hillary has never stimulated an economy so how does 35 years of experience win her argument. America has been brinking on a recession since she became a senator and that's includes with a dem control congress and senate.

Obama change I understand your message and where you are going, and since you do not use the word I but we I will give you a break and say you do not have a clear cut plan but are willing to work with the Rep and come up with one.
I can live with that.

Natasha B   January 9th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

If you need an example of Hilary's divisiveness, just look at the blogs these past few days. There is no way she is going to unite the Democrats let alone attracting Independents. I hope McCain gets the nod and I'll be voting Republican for the first time in my life. There is still something to be said about dignity, honesty and class.

I feel for Obama because all through the days before the election, he was the only dignified person. He refrained from geting into the mudpit when Hilary attcked him in the debate; he was respectful of Bill Clinton in the face of Bill's spiteful tirade; he responded honestly to the trash being mailed out by the Clinton campaign; and he was sympathetic when he was asked about Hilary's tearing up.

Jenny   January 9th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Wrong Kimdy, I'm a moderate republican, if it’s Hillary vs. any of the republican candidates, I vote Hillary… if it’s Obama or any one of the others, I’m voting red.

Well said GiGiovanna, Hillary for 2008.

Mary   January 9th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

No matter what people say Opera did help Obama in Iowa, and the young people should be careful what they "vote" for. Look what happened when so many people voted for Geo. W. Bush they were so sure he'd be a good President.
We do need a strong canidate who will win the nomination , and Hillary has ALL the qualifications, includeing being a real woman.
It's time people for the woman to be in charge.

tennessee gurl   January 9th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Irritated american is typical of Clinton supporters. Like the candidate they lie to get what they want.

A. Doyle   January 9th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

I believe Bill Clinton was a good president despite his immoral issues. However, I did not appreciate his speech against Obama which was contrary to what Obama has said was his action concerning the war and when he did not have a chance to respond. That, together with Hiliary's tears and words as if she is the only one that can save America and anyone else would have us on the wrong tack, is saying she is the only one capable to be the president. I don't agree with their unfair tactics. Each candidate that is put in that office for the first time is experiencing something new and unknown. The world and situations are constantly changing. Also, two people in the same family being president is like having one in office twice as long as any other president can be whether one or two terms. The tears were more than her caring about the state of our government and country. I think they were more concerning personal gains or obligations. She also couldn't live with being second to Obama, a Black man.

Marie   January 9th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

May the Best Person Win to lead our Great Country and we are lucky and blessed to live here! God Bless The United States of America! Let all of us keep to the facts- stop condeming . We're adults and privledged to be able to vote.Open your eyes we're the best Country in the world. Give thanks and be kind.

Experience IS OVERRATED   January 9th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

If you haven't seen or heard any details about Obama's "Plans For Change" it's because you've already decided "you won't vote for him". Again, intelligent politics, hence the reason for the electoral college.

So many Americans do not do any such research. Are you deciding what issues are important to you, then researching each candidates stance on those issues? This is the Technology Age people, go to any candidates website and there is a clear outline of exactly what they mention briefly in interviews and during debates. Common people don't watch a speech or watch a couple of interviews and commercials and with that detailed information make a INTELLIGENT decision.

I've decided "my intelligent well thoughout and researched vote goes to"

President = Obama, change is needed, he said it first!
Vice President = John Edwards, his passion, experience and committment to taking Washington away from the lobbyist and big business…

COME ON AMERICA!! Obama/Edwards 2008

Dan   January 9th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Obama is all about bs baffling brains. All show — no substance

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 9th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

"those fun times for Bill are pretty much what is wrong with this county in my opinion…..The President of the United States lying under oath is a pretty big atrocity to me, and when you are President, breaking your marriage vows bu committing adultery and lying under oath become big moral and ethical dilemmas! I'm sorry you don't feel that way. I hope you aren't married and thinking that adultery is "just fun times".
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Apparently Republicans do not feel that adultery is important enough to remove someone from office, as shown by current Republican adulterers Senators David Vitter and Larry Craig. The 4-year adulterer Henry Hyde continued to get re-elected by Republicans and Bush gave him the highest award possible for a U.S. citizen.

Apparently Republicans do not feel that being CONVICTED of two counts of perjury, one count of obstruction of justice, and one count of making false statements to federal agents is important enough to warrant even ONE MINUTE in prison. Libby was GUILTY of twice as many crimes as Clinton was charged with.

Probable explanation: HYPOCRISY.

corey   January 9th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Hillary Clinton hasn't made significant change in her "35 years" of "experience."

I didn't see Obama teary eyed… Hillary Clinton is such a joke…

Margaret Curley   January 9th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has worked for the underdog her whole adult life. Her record of accomplishments speaks for itself. Hillary will be a great president because she has a heart. Are we ready for an intelligent hard working compassionate woman to be president of this great country? You might not be but I am! Hillary will be a great president and I can't wait until she takes office. Go Hillary Go!! God Bless you and keep you safe. The USA might not realize it yet but you are needed in the White House.

jerzee gal   January 9th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Irritated american, Obama is not muslim for one. READ before you make comments!!!!

Jack Jett   January 9th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

He better get use to people twisting his word because CNN will not always be there with their lips implanted on his rear end.

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Rambo,

Actually the media isn't glorifying Obama.. They're leaving him for dead again when he's actually leading in delegates won, and wasn't even supposed to win NH to begin with (despite the polls saying he was a head a day or two before). The media was the ones who were buying Clinton's boo-hoo photo-op performance hook line and sinker

and you're only hearing the word "change" because every other candidate of both parties started using it because after Obama

Matt   January 9th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Karl, CNN is anti-Clinton as is the rest of the media. John King looked as if he was going to be sick when they finally had no choice but to call the primary as a Clinton win. Wolf Blitzer was as white as a ghost and Roland Martin looked as if he had been punched in the gut. They tried to stack the deck in Obamas favor but the folks in New Hampshire voted with their brains and not their bleeding hearts.

alli2   January 9th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Okay guys, if this was a football game each of these candidates would be making great plays. It's politics. It can be brutal and hard hitting. All these candidates have appealing points and characteristics. But you don't go into the superbowl with your rookie 2nd string quarterback.

Brad Burklow, Harrisburg, IL   January 9th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Hillary reminds me of the Ann Richards line about George Bush SR. She was born on third base (first lady) and thinks she hit a triple. If her last name were not Clinton she would be nowhere. The fact is that Bill and Hillary Clinton did massive damage to the Democratic Party despite significant accomplishments during HIS administration. This whole thing about being ready from day 1 is just stupid. From Day 1, Hillary Clinton will have at least 48% and probably closer to 60% of the country against her. Not just Republicans but hard core dems like me who are just sick enough of the Clintons and their BS to not vote for her in the general. From Day 1 it will be no holds barred for the lobbyists. From Day 1 we will have to listen to her screechy, phony voice AND Bill Clinton's narcissistic crap all over the airwaves. Bill is mad because Obama was out-Kennedying him. He can't carry Obama's jock strap when it comes to oratory, which, guess what Hillary supporters, is a large part of being president. You know that whole thing about being able to inspire people instead of pissing them off all of the time. I don't need any Clinton giving me a lecture on "false hope". She and Bill are perhaps the two most disengenuous people on the planet. If the Democrats are dumb enough to nominate the one person who will either lose the general or divide the country she wins, then so long dems and hello bloomberg and the independents.

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Frances,

Backwards as to when Bill screwed it up (i.e. NAFTA)?

And by "back to normal" do you mean back to corrupt politicians who do only what the highest lobbyist bidder wants and to hell with the American people?

To me "experience" just means more time they had to become corrupt and make connections with lobbyists. Cliton keeps saying the president should hit the ground running on day one… yeah I'[m sure that will mean doling out favors for those who put money in their pockets

david anderson   January 9th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I cried in sorrow and anger the day the republicans impeached Bill Clinton.

I now see why republicans hated the Clintons so much. The Clintons will do and say anything to get elected. Bill Clinton in my view is now an old pathetic womanizer. The Clinton's need to be careful with their attacks on Obama…right now their strategy looks like it will tear the Dems apart. Al Gore needs to endorse Obama tomorrow! And when will the media release the images they have of Bill with his new girlfriend?

james, newport, KY   January 9th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

I'm glad I'm not a Democrat.

Rambo   January 9th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Obama is not as great as he is hyped to be. Bill Clinton was 100% right, Obama loves to talk about his Iraq vote, but his voting record is no different than Hillary's. The press is not asking him the tough questions. They are more busy in manufacturing a story of a Black president. He has no substance to his words, he is all talk and no action. He will not unite the country, if somehow he wins and becomes president, his incompetency will be shown. He is the black Bush. Hopefully the press which wake up and will take him up on the issues, I have yet to hear anything other than the phrase "Change", change what, when and how have yet to be answered by Obama. He is being protected by the media who are too scared to ask him the real questions and question his qualifications. He makes a better story, shows their priorites.

Matt, Albany, GA   January 9th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I like the idea of Obama as VP and I'll think he could get the same amount of stuff done (nothing) with almost no excuses after the first year.

Frances   January 9th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

I see no detailed plans from Obama. I believe Hillary meant that she does not like our country to go backwards as it has in the past 7 years under this current administration.

She wants to shake things up and get the country back to normal..

lightharry   January 9th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Regardless of all of the statements a democratic process will not take place. The Clinton's have too many ties with the industry and paid their way back into the White House. The DNC will force the selection of Hillary and then Bill Clinton is back in office. They say a nation gets the leaders they deserve.

Experience IS OVERRATED   January 9th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

I use to love Bill Clinton, and you know what if it weren't for his tactics in the last few weeks I'd probably still be considering Hillary Clinton as my top choice. Not anymore, personally I'm tired of these old school political tactics, times have changed and you're not gonna get my vote by going on national television to slander or twist facts about another candidate. I want to know why you should be president!!!!!!!!!! And let's face it America, either you're happy with the state of our country or you're not. If you're not then it's time for some changes to happen.

DEFINITION OF INSANITY = electing the same types of experienced politicians (Hillary, Romney, etc) and expecting different results!!!!

For all of the COWARDS with comments like, sore loser, whiner, etc… It's very apparent that you have a tough time leading your own lives, so electing the leader of the next free world is out of reach. Since when did standing up and defending your stance on the issues or your character become whining?? READING THESE COMMENTS I AM NOW CONVINCED THAT EDUCATION SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

Jamie   January 9th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Wayne, do you mean the same speech Edwards made that Hillary scoffed at with a wave of her hand and said "can we get a reality break here?"

TONY LOS ANGELES.   January 9th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Life was better and easy during CLINTON,s administration.Hope positive all of us and have life.

Chris-Seattle   January 9th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Hmmm…insufficient evidence, hidden records, mysterious suicides and who nows what else. This is what America wants more of in the White House!?!

Thewatcher   January 9th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Whenever a Black man runs for President, you will always have Whites saying "just because he wants to be the first Black President doesn't mean I should vote for him. Even if he down plays his Blackness. Obama isn't Black in the true sense anyway, which is why Blacks don't really support him. His folks are White and African, and he was raised amongst Whites. Africans don't share the same history of slavery in their culture, which is why Obama is so confused right now. He does not understand why he lost last night. Black folks understand. This African is getting his first look at the way things work. And as a 44 year old Black man, I just think it is funny. I am cracking up as I watch these elections.

Beth, NC   January 9th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Hillary and Bill are the worst! I have never had a warm spot for Hillary but I use to love Bill and now he's looking more and more like the rest of them. I'm not giving up on Obama. They went out of their way to tell people to stop hoping that this country could be better. That they know what's best for us.. LIKE NATO! They had their chance and their eight years. And no amount of fake tears is going to change me mind.

Vam   January 9th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

It's amazing how someone can display teary eyes on moment and turn to attack Obama almost immediately in the same breath.

Surrealist, Fort Myers, FL   January 9th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Mr. Obama I don't think skirting truth is anything we are suprised to see from a politician.

For example—look at the history of the primary campaign's–if you compare agenda's you will note that suddenly–after the polls came out showing John Edwards was the best choice to beat a GOP candidate—-FIRST YOU, THEN HUCKABEE, THEN HILLARY PRONOUNCED " I AM THE CHANGE CANDIDATE" !!

Gimme a break

Wayne   January 9th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Not sure if anyone caught this but Hillary's little passion speech and crocodile tears were nearly the same words from John Edwards during the debate about how he feels, well minus the fake tears, he spoke with strentgh and ferver. I don't even like the guy. So Hillary steals his thunder and turns it into a sympathy vote…gosh, I have so much opportunity for this country, I dont want to see it go back. You mean like back to the Bill Clinton era…what is she talking about. Her proposals would bring us back to the Carter era. People need to wake up, take a course in economics, understand how things work. Mr. Obama has laid out his plans in detail. You can tell he understands that socilizaing medicine and rapid withdraw of our troops by not funding them are bad for our econmoy and our future. I represent the emerging independant minds of this country that think we can have a return to what our founding fathers set out to create, but that it will require change. I wonder what Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, Frankiln and others would think of Bill Clinton and HRC? I would rather see a condidate that feels passion about change rather than passion about power. If you think for a moment that Hillary cars about you….The Forgotten Man….(read the book) then I feel sorry for you. Taking us back the the era of phony, criminal, and reckless behavior in the highest office in the land….no thanks

Jamie   January 9th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

I for one will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I'd rather go with an Independent or (I can't believe I am saying this) a Republican before I voted for her.

sal lincoln nebraska   January 9th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

We shouldnt let CNN get away with not covering the truth…Letting them pick and choose what they ignore so that their choice of canidate can get into office…..This went on in 2004, 2000 as well….We had a president put into power that didnt win an election and CNN didnt do anything about it….They let 90,000 people in florida become disinfranchised, roadblocks set up…CNN didnt do anything about it…If you dont cover stories that affect the american people what exactly is your place on our airwaves? This isnt your airwaves there ours for all of us…Futhermore we pay for cable what right do you have to illegally not to mention morally keep imporant information from us to push your own best intrests…You should be allowed to call yourself a news station…You and your other network friends need to be titles appropriatley which would be an opinon show or maybe a gossip colum….Need to get as many concerned people as possible together and file a lawsuit, see what kind of grounds the system will take when enough people are ready to admit that illegal monopolies exist…CNN is one of them and their spreading rumors and disinformation….Should get them taken off the air

Pete   January 9th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

The people have spoken in NH, the pundits, the big media and the rigged pollsters that can easy manipulate people opinion all of then LOST! The incredible biased media in favor of Obama, the outrageous biased against Clinton and the total write off of Edwards. Their manipulative tactics lost. the people won. Now the same pundits, media should focus in the issues instead and we'll have a campaign; but they never learn the lesson.
And what of the Obama wave? That wave crested and has turned. His candidate will have more scrutiny and he should be held to the same standards than any other politician running for the Presidency.
Good night for democracy in the US. Shame on CNN's Blitzer among others, MSNBC starting with Chris Mathews, ah…and Tapper from ABC. They should learn to be real unbiased journalist!

Tom Masters   January 9th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

So what! Obama 'took liberties' with 'hope' and 'King' yet has not substance to go with his catch phrases. Where is his plan to bring this 'change'. A black man in office is great change, but insufficient if it is the ONLY change. You can't just shake some words from your 'Daily Inspiration' Calendar at people and win, you're gonna have to actually tell people what your plan is to reduce taxes, not just that you would. You'll have to tell people what your plan is to address foreign relations, not just that you'll talk to the right people for their advise. C'mon, you can ride this minority sympathy wave, but you are as fake Romney, and it's embarrassing to the U.S.

I don't think Obama is bright and 'articulate', if he were he would have already articulated what he is going to do in all of this ambiguous 'change' speak he is using. How dumb he must consider the people of our Great Nation to think he can pop a few catch phrases and win from popularity juxtoposed to saying something new, fresh and inspirational.

He's quoted JFK & MLK, but has failed to do what they did, provoke America into a specific and directional change. He is an idiot, hook please…get him off stage and let's get on with electing a president, not the flavour of the week!

Candace   January 9th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

What is not being said here, also, is that all the candidates, Republican and Democrat, co-opted Barack Obama's message of change without specific proposals as to how to effect them. Barack Obama who brought the issue to the forefront of course did have a detailed outline for changes that he wished to effect:

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Frances   January 9th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

I keep hearing about change and dreams and wonderful plans and getting along. I see no strategy or definition of what the change will be from Obama. He talks in generalizations. When I listen to Hillary speak, she talks about specifically what she accomplished in fiscal policies, healthcare, improving the economy in New York and other accomplishments.

What are Barack's specific accomplishments and goals for change? What changes????

There is not substance to what he says only rhetoric and dreams and fantasies.

Niko   January 9th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Dem here. Who likes the surge idea? Hillary would have 0 chance of beating McCain in a general election. She'll get little/no independent backing and will lose some dems. Plus, if Iowa is any indication, she'll rip every state she loses in the the dem primaries. BTW, Iowa does pick corn, but NH certainly doesn't pick presidents….Paul Tsongas ring a bell?

kimdy   January 9th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

I think all the people blathering about how Hillary can "unite" people, and can "sway the republicans" to her side are really not looking at the whole picture here. The Republicans HATE Hillary, and to an extent, Bill. They spent the entire 8 years of Bill's presidency doing everything they could to stymie the administration, block progress, appoint prosecutors, open investigations, belittle, beleaguer, and otherwise halt anything progressive. Hillary was a large focus of all the above, just as much as Bill. They're wetting thier pants at the prospect of getting to do so again with Hillary. What, in the WORLD, makes you think that someone as universally disliked across the aisle could ever, in a million years, get anything done with all the obstacles that will be put in her way, all the genuine loathing that they feel for her, etc. I'm sure she'd be a fine President, in a better world – But we don't live in a better world, and they're not suddenly going to give up hating her if she wins. And yes, Republicans like to stymie all Democrats, and visa versa, but there's a particularly hungry loathing for the Clintons. NOTHING will get done, just more insults, more partisanship, more abuse, more finger pointing, more blocking things just because… I cringe at the thought. At least Obama has quite a bit of respect across the aisle. Of all the folks running, when looked at realistically, he's the only one I think COULD reach out, and with that quiet, but firm voice, get the oppostion to "go along"… It scares me to think of another 4 or 8 years with all the partisan, angry, hatred of "gotta get the Clintons" no matter what happens to the rest of the country in the meantime.

JACKIE SINIUS   January 9th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR HILLARY CLINTON AS WELL AS SUPPORTING PRES. CLINTON WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE. MY COUSIN WORKED AS AN ADVISER AT THE PENTEGON UNDER CLINTON. I WAS ALSO GLAD WHEN SHE ANNOUCED SHE WAS RUNNING, FOR PRESIDENCY. I KNOW SHE KEEPS SAYING SHE HAS 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. EXPEREINCE IS GOOD, AND AT 56 YEARS OLD AND LOOKING AT HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON I THINK OF THEM AS OLD WASHINGTON WHICH THEY'RE NOT. MCCAIN IS OLD WASHINGTON, EXPERIENCED BUT OLD. HAVING OLD WAYS IS NOT WHERE WE NEED TO GO. I STILL AM UNDECIDED WHO I WILL CAST MY VOTE FOR. MAINLY BECAUSE THEY LISTEN AT THE TIME THEY WANT YOUR VOTE, WHEN THEY GET YOUR, THE GO TO THEIR OWN AGENDA.

Ann   January 9th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Ibeth….must be nice to decide you can see a person's "character" when you have no information or record to observe.

BTW…..what do YOU think about him allowing his grandmother to live in despicable conditions in Kenya.

Character-building?

It does take a tough heart to do that.

JohnS   January 9th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

For all Hillary supporters, welcome back to the world of "political inquiries by the Reps, Scandals of the past and so." I am particularly surprised at those who have failed to follow political events over the past decade," either beacuse they were too young or never really cared. I guess it might be helpful for such people to look up a few archives before using "empty words" here as Hillary would like to say.

Wendy   January 9th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Obama has been twisting what Hilary said for almost a year. He has engaged personal attacks and character assassinations. so stop crying now! Be an adult and follow the golden Rule: do what you want others do to you. Stop character assassinations and misinterpret others' words.

IndependentVoter   January 9th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

After reading most of these comments … it's obvious to me most of you don't realize to politicians (and the news media) elections are a game … they have rules, strategies, winners and losers.

And the biggest strategy is for politicians to figure out how to "game" the voters … they ALL do it. In their eyes voters are their pawns … that's why so many people get turned-off by politics … No one likes to be played.

The Clintons out played Obama in NH … They won. The news media blew-it … but what are they pushing on us? Some inane 2 sentence comment Obama made about another inane Bill Clinton strategic comment. Man do I hate getting played by the new media!

For those of you that want POLICY SPECIFICS … you're idealistically naive. Presidents are not Kings … policy is a function of compromise, the DETAILS of which are worked out between the participants.

I believe being President is about character. Of course there are other qualities required … … but the one consistent must have quality is CHARACTER.

Only you can determine what kind of character these candidates’ posses.

Anyway, that's my take on all this.

Art   January 9th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

I think romantic idealism is all fine and dandy but if Obama were to win the dem.primaries, the republican dirty tricks machine will drag him through the mud and slander him till the cows come home. The John Kerry swiftboating tactic will be chicken-feed when compared to how they will obliterate Obama and distort everything he ever said and did (or not did).

It is very easy to mis-represent his name (a middle name like Hussein is not a winner when the mud slinging begins), the fact that his father and step father were muslims will all be dragged through the slime and be distorted and painted as national security issues….the fact that he and his immediate family are practicing Christians will be forgotten in all that flying mud. His youthful drug use will be used to paint him as a horrendous influence on the youth and turn away many well intentioned family people.

These are all realities. The Clintons have gone through such fiery trials several times over and have survived and will outmaneuver any such slimy attempts in the future too.

To effect any change in Washington, where you take on powerhouses and live to fight another day, cannot be captured in a slogan, however catchy/romantic it may appear at first blush.

I think the democrats need a fighter and a tested team to take on the republican machine. Edwards is a passionate fighter but he does not have the political apparatus behind him.

Republicans will tout the fact that Hillary is polarizing etc., which in fact is true but bottomline, her political machinery has got the staying power and grit to take them on. That has got them running scared of a Hillary candidacy winning the primaries, however much they try to spin it otherwise.

I like Obama and agree completely with several of his positions (including the rationale for the disastrous Iraq war where the eye was taken off the ball in Afghanistan) but as a candidate who can take on and win against a McCain in a Gen.election, and then function as a driving force for change against entrenched and well funded special interests, I think he will not be very effective (regardless of the emotions that his terrific speeches evoke).

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Joelene,

And Hillary would be like putting a student pilot qualified in a Piper Cub that just so happens to the wife of a pilot in the seat of an F-18. What difference does that make?

Stamina? She broke down on the eve of the second primary. Oh yeah, I forgot. That was just scripted because she's phony.

nevadamuley Las Vegas, Nevada   January 9th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Well, I suppose we can expect to see Opra soon because Obama's getting picked on.

Obama's a whinner and an empty book.

Wait till the race gets really nasty, he'll have to have Opra hold his hand and beat up the big ol bullies for him.

Quit complaining Barak, it only makes you look like a girl.

Missouri/The Show Me State   January 9th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Appearently Hilary chocking and fake tears worked for her in NH.

Nita   January 9th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

You know I am so proud of our party. I am proud on NH. The pied piper will run out of tunes and very soon. Let me say I respect Hillary Clinton. Last night she thanked all ther candidates the ones that dropped out and the ones that continue. I watched her on a debate sometime back when they second half they sat. BIden was asked a question and answered w/out getting up. Clinton was second – she stood up and answered. This woman knows how to show respect. Last night is only the beginning.

America Rising   January 9th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Obama has the audacity to whine about Bill Clinton "twisting" his words after he has taken the intellectual property and words of John Edwards on more than occasion? FOFLOL

If you haven't already, read The Boston Globe and L.A. Times articles where Obama is called out for just a couple of his transgressions and you'll see the humor in this too! LOL

karl   January 9th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

anderson copper, lou dobbs and wolf should start campaigning for the clinton family and should stop the bias and fake presenting they do on cnn. this is not clinton's cnn but cnn

George, Billerica, Mass.   January 9th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Obama was not beating the anti-war drums as people assumed he had been. Bill called him on it. Now Barack cries foul? The more he is examined close up, Obama seems not quite up to the task of being either specific or clear (especially in their last debate). I think the Clintons are simply going after his inexperience… in politics. And in that respect, the Clintons are (love em or hate em) masters.

Joelene Reno, Nevada   January 9th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Barack Obama has not yet been vetted. When his "record" or lack thereof is put before the American public, it will become crystal clear that his lack of credentials actually does matter.

As for his position on the war. HE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE AND HE DID NOT ARTICULATE HIS OPPOSITION UNTIL THE WAR BECAME AN UNPOPULAR 'WAR OF CHOICE'.

Wouldn't it be nice if, after an NFL game, we could go back and make a different wager, once the outcome is clear?

Share the wisdom of your beginning game strategy once the game is nearing conclusion and the outcome is clear. Well, that seems to be Barack's "wisdom credentials" and mantra. He was against the war after he saw it as a no win proposition.

Someone wrote earlier that selecting Barack Obama would be like putting a student pilot qualified in a Piper Cub in the 1st seat of an F-18, on the deck of a carrier at sea…Once the cable is released, full power applied, those first 2 thrilling seconds are followed by a disasterous end.

This country can not afford to be wrong this election cycle.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON HAS THE ABILITY, WISDOM EXPERIENCE AND STAMINA TO BE A GREAT PRESIDENT.

HILLARY 2008!

brenda   January 9th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Nobody said we shouldn't try even in a tough fight. I just think Barack is doing the right thing even if he doesn't win…

Ann   January 9th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Peter, I noticed that, too. He is very disrespectful to both President Clinton and to his opponent.

I suspect that's his drug addict thinking at work.

Candace   January 9th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Karen, let's please try to have an intelligent discussion here if you truly care about the fate of this country. We're at a critical stage in our national and world history, and spewing venom without proper reflection does not do anyone good, including HRC.

If you are truly concerned about the specifics of change that Senator Obama is proposing, please review what he has already said and outlined on the subject before bringing up the issue for discussion. If you want to attack after reading the lengthy, detailed 64-page on that subject, please be my guest, otherwise, you are engaging in the same type of politics of Dick and George that brought us into the mess that we are facing right now.

Please review:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Dan   January 9th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Track record of experience in the largest foreign policy disasters in the U.S. in the last 30 years:

1. Secretary of Defense McNamara and others in the DOD had seen Chamberlain appease Hitler regarding eastern Cechoslyvakia. Years later, they believed in/conceived the domino theory that provided the rationale for war in Vietnam.

2. Cheney, Rumsfled, and co. had perhaps more foreign policy experience than anyone in the nation entering 2000. Going on 8 years later, the US is involved in another bloody and unpopular war.

Presidents without foreign policy experience included Reagan and Bill Clinton. Please stop citing "experience" as a reason to make your choice. Do a little reasearch instead of spouting HRC's catch phrase.

Pancho, Miami FL   January 9th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

See. This isn't about Hillary. I have nothing against her. It is about Bill. IT IS ALWAYS about Bill. And this is what you'll get by electing Hillary. 4 years of looking at HIS puss every night. He is truely a snake and the devil incarnate.

bud   January 9th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Hilary is in a fairy tale. Thirty five years of experience; give me a break. She was not elected to office until this last decade. She was the governors wife and the presidents wife. Everyone is so quick to jump on her experience well as first lady she tried to get a health care bill passed and it failed. She never tried again and in her campaigns for ny senator she took thousands from pharmacutical and hmo lobbies. Give me a break Hilary. How can you say Obama is tied up with lobbiest and has no experience when you are in the same position. If Americans wanted experience then Richardson is the best candidate. If you want change its either Obama or Edwards. HIlary represents the status quo with a deadlock between Republicans and Democrats. The only way she can get anything done is if the Senate, Congress and Whitehouse are democrat.

alex   January 9th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Mr Obama in one of his addresses to his supporters mentioned history being made but the fact is this coutntry needs a leader not some one more interested in making history.

karl   January 9th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Bill clinton to call obama a kid and a drug user doesn't cut it in sc and we pissed for such foolish words and u would pay for it in sc

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Tony,

All of us think one more times SPELLING and GRAMMAR is most important run this country.

Connie, Tn.   January 9th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

I fail to see where all this "experience" Hillary keeps talking about came from. The only thing I can say about Obama is he is not experienced in "cut-troat politics".

If people want change, they are not going to get it with Hilary.

Go Obama!

TONY   January 9th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

All of us think one more times EXPERINCE is most important run this country and this experince NO BODY can buy it from a grocery store or from CHINA,

karl   January 9th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

anderson copper, lou dobbs, wolf , I saw the smiles on ur faces last night with that dubious criticisims but i still believe we can

Ito, Yokosuka Japan   January 9th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

The Clintons = lies and half-baked truths…

Get ready for a whole lot more of the same…I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Obama can survive the Clinton hate machine, he will be well suited to handle the Republican attack machine.

Anybody who supports the Clintons has been duped. They are the snake oil saleteam of the 21st century.

scott in NYC   January 9th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Can someone say "sore loser"?

Kenny Connell   January 9th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Isn't it ironic that former President Bill Clinton woulld chose the words "fairy tale" in describing what he feels is Sen. Obama's "Iraq" record and the alleged treatment of it by the press. The two biggest "fairy tales" I remember are "There are WMD in Iraq" by the current administration and "I did not have sex with that woman" by the previous one. Hmm. Funny how it escapes me who the author of the latter "fairy tale" was. I also don't know if Sen. Clinton's "teary moment was genuine or not, but the timing of it right before a make or break primary was impeccable!

Larry DeVito Mason NH   January 9th, 2008 3:41 pm ET

Twelve years of George the elder. Eight years of Bill. Eight years of George the younger. Eight potential years of Hillary. Waiting in the wings Jeb and/or Laura. This is Democracy? Hey, we need a break.

joli   January 9th, 2008 3:41 pm ET

irritated American wrote January 9, 2008 3:24 pm ET
Sorry but I won't be voting for anyone who got sworn in on the Koran rather than the Holy Bible

You may think the above is funny … and for all I know it was a joke…but many people think this way…

Cathi   January 9th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

I truly appreciate those of you who provided real facts and numbers on Hillary's time as a senator. These are the real facts we should require our candidates to be debating – not slogans and open-ended promises that lack substance.

Dave   January 9th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

Hillary can't even run a state – how does she intend on running our Nation?

Is she going to have Bill fight her battles if somehow she was unfortunately elected President?

Is she going to cry and get emotional when she has the Russians or Iranians in her face?

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

The only time Barrack lied was when he said Hillary was likable enough.

Damien   January 9th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

I'm still waiting for a Hillary supporter or Hillary herself to tell me what 35 years of experience she has. It's fair game to ask Obama to give specifics on what he mean by change. Equally Hillary should be telling the American people what her 35 years of experience consits of, if you're going to attack Obama for talking out the side of his neck Hillary is doing the same not once had she gave a resume for all this experience she suppose to have, Obama been a sen for 2 years Hillary 3. Would a Clinton supporter please define her experiences.

Other then Bill having sex with other women

Let me say again the only thing note worthy (positive) Bill did when he was in office was bring down the deficit and stimulate jobs and financial growth…sounds good huh… IT WAS A PLAN THAT G.W BUSH Sr. pioneered during the end of his term and the great pretender I mean great contender implemented.

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joli   January 9th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

Actually she's been there for 7 years. ahhh… 5..7… not a huge difference there… Obamas been there for 2. ahh 2.. 0 not a big difference… :P

"He hasn't any experience in foreign policy. Give me a break," – Rep Ohio Sen. George Voinovich when asked if Sen. Barack Obama has the foreign policy chops to be the next president. Voinovich serves with Clinton and Obama on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Amanda B.   January 9th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

What experience? HRC has held public office for fewer years the Obama. Her job before that was to be the President's wife. Clearly she wasn't very good at that because he had to outsource some of her responsibilities.

Richard, West Palm Beach, FL   January 9th, 2008 3:33 pm ET

"Sorry but I won't be voting for anyone who got sworn in on the Koran rather than the Holy Bible."

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How can this incredible ignorance stay alive? Get your head out of the sand. Do some research. In you refusal to look for truth, you have confused Barack with Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison. Wake up and stop spreading such ignorant statements.

joseph pierre   January 9th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

The N.H. election results smell like fish if you consider the pre-election polls.

Hillary Billary, BOO! No third term for you!   January 9th, 2008 3:31 pm ET

Karen,

I have not heard Obama use the race card as much as Hillary uses the gender card. "I'm your girl!" (gag!). And then the other night she acted like just being a woman running for president is change enough. Well Barrack didn't say it, but the same logic could be used to say having a black president would be change as well.

Hillary stinks. Blow your noses people so you can smell the REAL Hillary, whatever that is.

rodney domineck   January 9th, 2008 3:31 pm ET

Only when the country pull together as one body, this is when we can move forward. Obama has this vision, we need this newness not the old way. If this doesn't happen this country will fall like all mighty countries do. It is time for unity and i think he would be the best one for this. Change must happen for the goodness of all mankind

karl   January 9th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

shock, shock but once again i no it is america. lou bobbs, wolf and copper where very happy last night and that was all they wanted and they got it with their dubious critisim, am a republican and do not watch cnn any way but i still believe we can.

Patricia   January 9th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

Clinton you should have a shame on your selve, You discopaigned Barak out of anger. It doesn't seem very clear what your internal motivation is. Crying is not a solutions to solving all the probles may be it worked for you this time but if elected president of the future, you just showed how weak you will be in handling very intense situations when there is a crisis. you didn't have to cry just show the people that you can.

wf   January 9th, 2008 3:28 pm ET

Ralph, call me a "Moron" if you want, but those fun times for Bill are pretty much what is wrong with this county in my opinion.

( Ralph's Statement: "The DNA was just fun times for Bill, certainly not an atrocity. If Hillary doesn't care, why should you. The only thing Bill did wrong was to lie under oath.")

The President of the United States lying under oath is a pretty big atrocity to me, and when you are President, breaking your marriage vows bu committing adultery and lying under oath become big moral and ethical dilemmas! I'm sorry you don't feel that way. I hope you aren't married and thinking that adultery is "just fun times".

Karen   January 9th, 2008 3:27 pm ET

Barack says he is all about change. What does that mean? He is riding the coat tails of Oprah, hoping that she pulls him through to a victory. Americans will not bullied into having a talk show host be the one to tell us who to vote for. He wants to be the first african american and that is terrific but that is not a good reason for me or anyone else to vote for you. This our country…and we need somebody with some experience, know how and intelligence. Unfortunately Mr. Obama your time is not now, however perhaps in 8 tears you will be back again.

Nick A   January 9th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

Hey Joe,
Get your facts straight. The two knot heads with the Iron My Shirt signs were sent by a morning drive time show in Boston. The woman who asked Hillary the question, according to TPM, voted for Obama.

prospector   January 9th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

Hillary simply does not have much experience either. She's been a lawyer, the first lady, and a Senator for 5 years. That doesn't amount to much experience when you running for president no matter how Slick Willy tries to spin it. Hill is the consummate politician who would say and do anything–anything, including fake tears, to get elected. Go Obama.

Harouna Samura   January 9th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

Obama is the future for America give him a fair chance.

irritated American   January 9th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

Sorry but I won't be voting for anyone who got sworn in on the Koran rather than the Holy Bible.

C Benegal   January 9th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

Hi,

I have a suggestion for Mr.Obama.

How about putting on act
He should go before the TV and while replying to allegation of Billy boy, he could shed a few tears and claim Billy is targetting him because he is an african american and having got the attention of the the sensible and the so far indifferent voters, and manage to get some support from the fans of the daytime soaps who seem to have come out for Hilary having watched her performance.
wHAT LAUGH..SHE HAS SO MUCH TO OFFER ?

Ryan, San Mateo   January 9th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Emotion didn't make me a Hillary believer. Her experience, knowledge, preparedness to lead and her promise to help every one of the American people did! She is the only chance we have to bring back America's respect around the world, get us out of this unwarranted war, bring back American jobs, support the environment, and give health care to the middle class, not just the homeless and unemployed.

Barbara   January 9th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Again…from an 'outsider's' perspective, it seems that a good number of the 'pro Obama' comments would be better described as 'anti Hillary' or 'anti Bill and his Oval Office adventures', rather than 'pro' anything.

If anyone's wondering why a Canadian would even take the time to pay attention to American presidential primaries (alright , our politics aren't as rip-roaring as yours are…), in case you haven't noticed – 'your' decisions about which characteristics/experiences/vision should be considered when selecting the 'most' competent, strong, compassionate and 'informed' leader affect the rest of us, whatever our addresses might be. This is no slight against America or its electorate, it's an inevitable outcome of being the lone superpower in the international mindset. Fair enough. However, your unique positon (in terms of world 'history') demands that you think 'clearly' and with great consideration about the future when you vote.

Bearing that in mind, is it really 'important' to determine whether infedelities committed by one's spouse at any point in time should be considered in determining who the 'best' leader of a nation would be??

Or, who plays the 'dirtiest' type of politics? Don't ALL politicians and/or their advisors (remember Karl Rove people) 'think dirty' when it comes to winning a national election? Do you think Senator Obama's advisors are fallen angels just here to get him elected in a pure and holy fashion…and then trod off to whence they came?

And, by the way, Lou Dobbs' comment about the NH results providing a 'kick in the teeth' to the 'professional' pundits is well noted. Many comments seem to suggest that 'many' Americans are finally beginning to accept that many of the so-called professional pundits are operating along one of the fundamental rules of human/political interaction – "where you stand (who you support) is usually related to where you sit". Democrat or Republican, African-American or non African-American, male or female, evangelical or non-evangelical – they all came out in the 'Politcal Show Biz' polls and punditories before NH.

Hats off to Lou Dobbs!

williams   January 9th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

I am not surprised at the lack of respect for truth displayed by Bill Clinton. "He" will say anything to return to the oval office. God save our democracy from the twenty-eight year and still trying to count dynasty. Keep fighting for democracy.

d   January 9th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

I personally feel insulted as a woman to see Hillary almost cry like a baby on TV .
I value and respect her as a strong woman and did not expect to see such a breakdown on national TV. I am asking Hillary advisors to do a better job than that.

She alos said the country will go backwards if she does not get the votes ,not sure what that means.

Hillary behaviour is a sign of weakness and I hope this does not continue going forward by having Bill speaking for her does not help her.

jak   January 9th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

No self respecting woman would vote for Ms. Clinton. She did herself in when she opted to stay in an emotionally abusive relationship for the prospect of future celebrity, thereby validating her approval of amorality. Now she folds under the pressure of campaigning, only to be "rescued" by her preening and verbally intimidating mate….an indicator of her (their) future performance(s)… Insulting. I think we've enjoyed about as much of this political couple as we can stand!

Dee   January 9th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

Boo! Hoo! Hillary showed emotions! Bravo! Did you all forget who helped Bill deliver his speaches when he was President. (Steven Spielberg). Another Clinton well scripted. Where was the emotion when Bill said "I did not have sex with that woman", and disgraced the highest office in the land. Not to mention his marriage.

I don't buy it! I'm a white 64 year old female, and not impressed, and did not forget the lies, disgrace, cheating, and minuplations of the 8 Clinton years!

manupop   January 9th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

to b. jones tulsa,ok., if there wer no gender issues, then we would have hada woman president a long time ago. how many women CEOs do you know???
I don't know any. I am talking about the real high power positions. you do not see that many women in extreme high places. these are exciting times for us women and I am so proud to be one. and I am supporting Hillary all the way. yes, these are the times when men and women are both going for the top positions, and women should be given the change and the opportunity to get them, just liek men do. i don't think men are quite there yet to accept women in extreme power positions. maybe if Hillary wins we women can establish the equality that we always wanted. Once we did that, then we don't care so much anout the fight to the top. It is just to get there now that it counts. the women pioneers in the top positions will always be remebered. yes, these are exciting times and I am proud to be a woman supporting another one into the fight to equality. You go Hillary, I am with you all the way, and I will fight all the way for total women equality and recognition for hard work. Women out there, please do me a favor and unite and vote for Hillary. these are exciting times for us to prove that yes we can do it and maybe better than men.
Hillary is an excelent candidate, one smart woman. anyways, politics are dirty and to be part of it you have to get dirty. and noth candidates for Hillary and Obama do get dirty. However, the media is behind Obama and they crucify Hillary, which is not fair. i think if they crucify one candidate, they should crucify the other. in the last week, the media has been nothing but cruel to Hillary, and for what?? please if you want to prove equality between the genders, then do the same for Obama, crucify him in the media! now that is gender equality!

Amy   January 9th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Senator Obama, its not the end of the world. Go and do your work and earn votes or whatever you want to earn, don't complain. Bill Clinton is right: You have to be scrutinized more! why are you scared of this?

Even if only at 2% difference, Hillary Clinton had a significant victory last night.

1. She proved that media was biased!!! and is trying to influence the public.

2. She proved to all of us, that there are still Americans out there who believe in her message that a good life is possible in America if you do the hard work.

I was started to think that ALL Americans are some mall-based concert-oriented people who are falling for sensational. Some might be (as so many posts show), but NOT ALL. There are still people in America one can count on for taking things seriously. This is an incredibly positive message, so after media and bloggers treating her like dirt, Hillary and the New Hampshire women (Thanks God you women were there) sent us a good message.

Back to work…

Kris   January 9th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Well, it sounds like Obama is whinning just like he acusses Hillary of doing. Poor baby. He needs to just shut-up about the start of the Iraq war. Good decision or bad, it was a decision based on what at the time was good intelligence and what her constituents wanted. Give it a break.

Tracy   January 9th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

NH win is not by a huge margin people!!! America wants Obama. The common American wants Obama as president.

Trust me Clinton will not go all the way. And I respect her.

sally - Houston, TX.   January 9th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

Oh yeah.. and how can you not fund the military???? you putz you sent them there!!!!!!!! Are you just going to say sorry kids, no more money?? the whole idea is so stupid

James Bond   January 9th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

I'm just tired of you Obama haters. On one hand people claim he does not have the experience to become president because he has only served about a couple of years as a Senator. My question to you people is this: Is the senate, the only place to get the experience to become a president? Obama has done a lot for this country even before serving in the Senate. He just didn't graduate from College yesterday. Because you are not used to seeing him so much on the news till now does not mean he lacks experience. I love the Clintons but besides her serving in the US Senate, does serving the white house as a First lady counts as experience too? or are we just using her husband's work to reflect her experience? All I'm saying is America needs a fresh start, and a uniter, and that's Obama. I would like to see Hilary as Vice. This country is not a kingdom. We don't want a Bush, a Clinton, then a Bush and Clinton again scenario. Bill Clinton has done a lot for this country, but it''s time to move on people.

r k martin, New York, NY   January 9th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

as for the media, it's a fact that over 40% of the citizens in this country despise the Clintons.

If Hillary gets the nomination, the voter turnout against her will be unbelievable! So if Cnn's coverage is negative on Billary, it's only because 2/5ths of the country wants to see negative press on those snakes!

diana   January 9th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

TALK ABOUT 'FLIP FLOP' ! HILLARY DIDN'T WIN BY ANY LANDSLIDE IN NH. SO NOW WHIS LIKEABLE, VULNERABLE, HUMAN AND MORE ELECTABLE BECAUSE SHE BECAME TEARY EYED AND THE WOMEN OF NH FELT SORRY FOR HER? WHEN THE MEDIA SAID SHE TALKS ABOUT 'ME' AND 'WHEN I'M PRES' AS COMPARED TO OBAMAS 'WE WILL WORK TOGETHER' SHE CAME OUT WITH 'WE' AND WHAT 'WE' WILL DO. WHEN THE MEDIA NOTED THAT SHE WASN'T PERSONABLE, DIDN'T ANSWER VOTER QUESTIONS, DIDN'T LINGER AFTER SPEECHES, SHE STARTED ANSWERING QUESTIONS, TRIED TO SMILE AND APPEAR FRIENDLY AND LINGERED. WHEN HER STERN DEMEANOR WAS MENTIONED AGAIN , SHE CRIED AND BILL DEFENDED HER. SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED! SHE WONT BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS STANCE, SHE WILL REVERT BACK TO THE STUBBORN, UNFRIENDLY, NEGATIVE, ABOVE US ALL , ATTACK WHEN QUESTIONED POLITICIAN. ;SHE WOULDN'T BE AT THIS POINT IN HER LIFE WITHOUT HER HUSBAND. DO WE WANT ANOTHER BUSH FOR OUR PRESIDENT? DO WE WANT ANOTHER NEGATIVE, STUBBORN UNAPPROACHABLE, VINDICTIVE UNCOMPROMISING, OLD SCHOOL POLITICIAN? OR DO WE WANT A PERSON WHO IS OPEN TO CHANGE, POSITIVE, DOESN'T OWE THE ESTABLISHMENT, HAS A GENEROUS OPEN HEART AND CARES ABOUT ALL PEOPLES. HIS MIND SET, INTELLIGENCE AND OPEN HEART WILL GUIDE HIM TO LEAD, COMPROMISE AND BRING OUR NATION TOGETHER.

William Wicks   January 9th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

The message of hope that Barak Obama brings to us is expressed well in Marianne Williamson's book, "The Healing of America." On page 241, it is written, "The magic people haven't been invited to attend the party in America, for fear that they might dance. They haven't been invited to speak at the party, for fear that they might sing. They haven't been invited to run the party, for fear that they might change it. They would have, and now theyre going to."

Ryan, San Mateo   January 9th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Obama is a nice enough man, but no way near experienced, knowledgeable, or prepared enough to battle this mess the next President will have to deal with. We need someone who is for the people and we finally have a chance with HRC. Don't believe the hype.

sally   January 9th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

I would love to know when someone is going to talk about the people of the USA. I am so sick of hearing about overseas crap I could spit! What about us? Quit spending OUR money elswhere in other countrys that coat their leaders pockets and keep it at home! We have REAL problems! No jobs, housing market, no social security, homless men,women and children, crime (a war at home if you will with our own terrorists) illegal imm's – why even call them illegal if you are going to open the door for them? Loss of jobs, high intrest and tax and home& property tax tax, tax, taxes for ever…… scams, credit fraud that WE have to pay for…..and thats not even the half of it! When are these people going to pay attention to the USA???? The people really have no voice anymore, we are sheep and congress are fat bloated power sick hearders. ECH!!! No wonnder so many people are moving out of the country!!!

Sharon in FL   January 9th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

NOBAMA! I'm an Independent who always votes Democratic but I would NEVER vote for Obama, master of political weaselocity and the cliche hope speech. So for the first time in my life, I'm checking out Republicans just in case. In the meantime, I'm working hard for a Hillary victory.

ashley   January 9th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

funny how or ironic…. as soon as a woman runs for president, so does a black man. face it, she is more qualified, with actual plans on every issue. unlike he who only wants change but has never stated how to bring that about, other than taking Hillary's plans and passing them off as his own. She is the best candidate for the job and does not have to bring Oprah along to get people out to see her. before oprah spoke of obama, no one knew who he was. Also when he came to iowa, people there even said i can't wait to see oprah, and i came to see oprah. what does that say? Madonna and Angelina Jolie support Hillary but you don't see them you see Her. Hillary may have Bill, but I assure you that he does not tell her what to do, but probably she tells him. We need her as our next president, and can't afford not to have her.

r k martin, New York, NY   January 9th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Clinton and Bush have divided this nation. Their policies and politics have driven the country into two halves. Neither of these halves can solve all the problems. The partisanship created by these two families has ruined the nation.

We need a change. Fresh blood. Fresh ideas. Obama graduated first in his Harvard law school. I'll put his intelligence and judgement up against Hillary any day

OBAMA 08! The revolution has begun!

Sara - Florida   January 9th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Obama and the rest of the "boy's club" have spent the past few months ganging up and attacking Hillary in their ads and on the public debates.

Hillary is a strong candidate and proved last night that she has what it takes to win above all odds. The media wants Obama to win so much that after his win in Iowa all you saw was his face in the news, with no equal time for Hillary, only comments about how she was losing ground in New Hampshire. Well, Hillary stood strong and showed them all, the stuff that she is made of. "Way to go girl!"

I normally would not even consider a female for President, but in this case,
I feel that Hillary is the best person for the job of President of the United States. She is as strong if not stronger than any man, and she has a woman's brain. Wow, what a combination.

As first lady she visited many countries and made her mark on them so she is the best equipped to deal with foreign policy of those running for the Democratic nomination.

Hillary has my vote, and I hope the vote of the majority of the women in this country.

Rick   January 9th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Once again I see the Clinton's are normal with their comments and once again I see the media is listening to a Clinton whine, tears and spill of untruths. Bill and Hillary ; please grow up.
The people of this country want change, we do not want the STATUS QUO, we are tired of inside washintgon politics, we are tired of those who will not protect the dignity of this country, we dont want someone who calls our generals liars, we want someone who will support our troops, we want someone who wont tear up when she doesnt get her way, and we really want someone who has a vision for the future of this country, not someone who thinks she has experience because she was the presidents wife.
Why is it that the Clinton's can not run a professional campaign, maybe they can throw in with Romney.

EdinNC   January 9th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

I have to laugh at all of "experience mongers". I don't buy the motto that "experience" makes you right or better! Don't we hear that every year? Experience is shallow nowadays — you learn how to lie, cheat, and steal your way to the top. It is not difficult to barely show up to work , barely vote half of the time, and then deny any culpability for something that you actually did or said. Again, what does experience have to do with anything? I just want someone else besides the Bush's and Clinton's runing the White House for a change.

Kelly   January 9th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

I think Bill Clinton's sour grapes extend beyond this primary season. It is clear that regardless of how this turns out, Obama is the new superstar of the Democratic party. Their future rest on his shoulders. Worst case scenario for Obama is Hillary gets the nomination and wins the election while Obama becomes a star in the senate, further solidifying his stature, 4-8 years from now he will be unstoppable. He wins either way really. Hillary can't really survive a defeat her, she has more at stake. Bill gets to repair his shaky legacy through his wife. Barack Obama is the spoiler, he overshadows anyone around him, including the former president. If you ask me, Bill Clinton is so vehement in his attacks of Obama because his ego can't take someone else being held up as the savior of the party, like he was back in the 90's.

Andy, Woodbridge , VA   January 9th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Are Clinton's the only smartest people in America ? Can't we do without them? They need to leave us alone .No way backwards to the scandals.

joli   January 9th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

HolliA calm down… Jeez. I was merely giving you a taste of what Obama is going up against. The fact is it doesnt matter what the facts are… it doesnt matter where he put or didnt put his hand. The Reps took an honored Vietnam vet and turned his whole military carrier upside down. Obama doesnt have a clue… of whats to come

Kerri, Archbald PA   January 9th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Bill and Hill doing what they do best -lie lie lie. Obama opposed the war from the get-go… But anyone with common sense knows that even if you oppose the war, you can't ignore our soldiers…I don't want our soldiers over there either, but they need to eat, and they need to arm themselves!! DUH! The only way I will continue to believe that we actually do live in a democratic society, is if Obama wins. There is just too much that goes on behind closed doors that us "little people" don't know about. Obama will make everything transparent. I just pray that our system isn't that tampered with so that the people's voices will be heard and we are screaming OBAMA!!!

Matt   January 9th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Bo Ho Barrak. You lost because people saw that you had a one word/one issue platform. The hollow promise of "change" lost, experience won. Big Bad Billy Boy didn't "take liberties with you". You lost because you stand for nothing and people saw right through the smoke and mirors.

sm   January 9th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

sounds to me like Bill is running , not Hilary

Johnny   January 9th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Gary,
You emphasize Obama's status as "Junior" senator. Lest no one else has mentioned it, so is Hillary. Most of the experience Junior Senator Clinton has going for her involves being the WIFE of a leader, as an elected official she only has four years on Obama. Now, admittedly she worked hard and did good things during her husband's terms in Washington and Arkansas, but to get the thirty-five years she goes on and on about, you must include the dubious distinction of being the only first lady in history to be served a federal subpoena.
On another note, am I the only one who finds the "cry baby Obama" posts to be a bit ironic after Hillary's "tearful" moment? Incidentally, while "choking back tears" she said "I don't want to see things slide backwards". Backwards to what? Bush? Her husband? Frankly I think way too much was made of her "emotional moment". All I saw in that footage was a person who had been campaigning thirty hours a day for a month and was ready to crack, a situation all of the candidates on both sides are in. I'm amazed none of them have really snapped yet. I doubt the average person could handle that much pressure for so long

paul   January 9th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Why can't people just let Obama defend himself from false attacks? Bill Clinton knew his wife's campaign was on the ropes and said biting remarks the night before the election in the hopes that Obama would not have time to fully defend himself. It worked. Bill Clinton is a master politician, and we should certainly give props to the Clinton ticket as a whole. While Bill undermined Obama's credibility, Hillary answered the charges against her lack of personality with a well-timed performance. They did exactly what they had to do in a state that strongly supported Bill during his run. If you are Obama, defend yourself, but dont worry – the longer you are in the race, the better. Edwards will run out of money and steam eventually, and with his votes will come more support for the Obama campaign. In addition, Hillary will have to start distancing herself from Bill. She cant expect him to keep doing New Hampshires and legitimize herself in the face of such a charismatic, uplifting figure like Obama. Hillary has the social grace of a can of mase. I think undecided votes will realize that she is such a polarizing figure around this country that a more universally accepted candidate like Obama will be preferable. In the meantime, Obama should continue to defend himself, yet maintain his positive, partisan message.

Nalla   January 9th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

For those of you coted or will vote for Hillary, I guess you are all just dumb enough to be ruled by two families for almost 24 years. For god sake, this is US and not a nepotic middle east where a sheik and his cronies rule until the line dies off. Barack is the face of this country to the world and for every intellectual with hope. without Bill, Hillary amounts to nothing. But Barack has risen from grounds up. Give him credit for that.

My only fear is that if Barack loses the nomination race, all those of us, who believe in him may lose any respect for this politico-electoral process and stay out of this mess for ever.

I hope Barack gets nominated and eventually wins the general and I can go around the world with my head up and confident that we are the leaders of this free world again. But until that happens, I will arise, awake and will not stop supporting the revolution across this nation.

Join in folks, be part of the history and say good bye to same-old same-old.

All for Obama

Mary Hagar Santa Barbara Ca   January 9th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

We're all going to suffer having two Clintons sharing (?) the White House.
Whose the boss?
Oval Office antics?
Where's Dr. Phil.
Hide the Red Phone!

Jim G   January 9th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

Imagine Bill Clinton twisting someone else's words or not telling the truth! This man of honor, oops, dishonor.

Roger Evans Colorado   January 9th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Who is running for the office of president? is it Hill or Bill, maybe it's the hillbilles. There is still time to put our country back on the right path. But it's not the Clintons that can do it. I have to give the Clintons credit, they know how to make people feel sorry for them when they are losing. Maybe we should feel sorry for the people in Iowa when they put Clinton in third place. Hillary loved the people in Iowa, untill they didn't vote for her, now they are losers and hick farmers who know nothing. Now look at Bill he is mad and up set because people are not treating is wife with the respect she is due. Was Bill mad and up set with himself when he was having all those affairs behind Hillary's back, or maybe he was in frount of her, either way she didn,t care, so don't worry now Bill, it will be ok. The polls say that president Bush has lied to the people, is hard headed will not listen to reason, does what he wants. The name of the game is change, so why would we want to replace this president with the great Clintons who are the best liers, cheaters, corrupt people we have seen in along time. Just look at the ninties all the lies cheating and corruption having two good friends killed, because they were going to go public about the Clintons. Do we need this again, even having the Clinton mob take out some more of their friends. I am a democrat, but I could not vote for the HILLBILLIES

Scared for our country   January 9th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

That's it. All this has affirmed that I am either voting for Edwards or I am turning republican. So what, he had a pricey haircut. I am sure Obama or Clinton have ridiculous expenses somewhere along the line, suits, shoes etc. I am so SICK of the Obamamainia and the Clinton Haters that I am going to back Edwards all the way while those two tear each other apart. Feel free to join me…..

ratt   January 9th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

Obama needs to question why Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News is having fund raisers for clinton. Talk about being bought and paid for by the vast right wing conspiracy. The clintons are disgusting and their supporters are dumb as dirt.

jack, ny, ny   January 9th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

For the first time Obama sounded fake last night.

Chad Butler   January 9th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Apparently she came back but what has actually stricken me after New Hampshire is the confirmation of how poor candidate Hillary actually is.

Otherwise let's just compare the tone and content of both her's and Obama's speeches. Barack made a positive address, charged with emotion and power, stressed his political views and displayed an apparently genuine predisposition for change. Clinton made a shy speech more focused on herself and on how thanked she was to New Hampshire as it has, apparently, saved her campaign. And Hillary made an amazing revelation: that New Hampshire made her found her voice. That can only mean that she didn't have one before and makes me believe even more that her candidature is more a result of a personal ambition and less from desires of serving and changing the current status quo.

Peg   January 9th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

I'm sick of the word "experience" more than I am sick of the word "change."

What makes all of you think that in order to be a great leader or to be qualified to be President of the United States, you need to have "experience"? GWB had lots of "experience" in government and in leadership roles…… before and while he has been President ……… SO THE MORAL IS………

"EXPERIENCE" DOES NOT MAKE A GREAT, GOOD, COMPETENT, OR EVEN INTELLIGENT PRESIDENT………..

William Wicks   January 9th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Why did Hillary win? It's the polls, stupid?

Ann   January 9th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Hard questions are starting to come to Obama, thanks to Bill. Sure enough, he tried to wiggle out of the obvious contradictions.

It's going to be a long week for him.

ratt   January 9th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

I'm an independent. If the democratic party is foolish enough to elect clinton as their nominee they will invite Nader to make another run pulling the liberals away from the Clinton machine and push the independents toward a republican or third party candidate. The dems will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I am woman, hear me roar. Go Hillary Go. LOL

L, Williamsburg, VA   January 9th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

" Hey, Obama, you said it, you snorted it. Be a man and quit whining because you're starting to sound like George Bush." POSTED BY SHARON.

Sharon, what are you talking about? If there is anyone that has not whined after all the slander, name calling, and viciousness, it is GWB. You may not like the man or his politics (and that's fine, it's your perogative), but he has conducted himself with class without resorting to the gutter politics of the Democrat Party.

peter   January 9th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Sen. Obama, I would suggest when you make comments about our former president, you address him properly. He is President Clinton.

louie   January 9th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

It's very difficult to me to believe that Obama will bring changes if elected president. He seems to freeze when faced with a difficult decission and that's why he avoids voting yes or no and just indicates present as his record states in the state senate of Illinois. my question is what is he going to do when he gets a bill to sign if elected president, is he going to just put it aside and let it drag until time for reelection comes, that way he can't be blamed for either signing or not signing the bill. I was actually leaning toward Obama but there's a lot of open questions that he can't answer because he's been too calculating all his life in order to preserve a clean voting record when running for president. As of right now I'll follow the other candidates to see what they have to offer.

martha   January 9th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

It take more than good speeches, promises, to be president. if we want change we will have the first woman, we need experiencia she has, vison for future , smarts, comun sense,and good advise she has all. Do you remember the surplus that we have, respect and amiration for this Country ? we can get all that back and more. We are more, we are going to make happen.
CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY GO FOR, WE ARE WITH YOU

Gobama, NY, NY   January 9th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

mabepko January 9, 2008 2:29 pm ET

You know how to use your computer to reach Obama.com?
Everything is there concerning Obama's plan for America.

You can't believe that a highly intelligent, highly educated and highly competent University lecturer wouldn't know to have specifics on his national subject matter; do you? LOL

Please, Obama is not a high school drop out. LOL

me   January 9th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Lou Dobbs hit it on the head with his column about this election!

Instead of the political pundants sitting there predicting who the next President will be, they should get out there and do their checking on the candidates fully like reporters are suppose to do and then ask the hard questions to every candidate and be hard on them for loosey goosie responses and do what they are suppose to do in asking the candidates what the public voters want to know!

After all, since when was it the Media became the decider of who the people want to elect? The Meida has be very petty this year in how they have conducted the coverage of the campaign trail, focusing on meaningless and trivial things and placing smoke and mirrors over substance and realizm!

Time to go beyond the smoke and mirror feel good preaching, tears, religious rhederic, this persons likeability and so on rediculous campaigning that has thus far consumed the campaign trail! It is time to confront each candidate and ask the tough questions such as first 100 days in office what will you do and how will you impliment your plan of….

How each will answer and what will be the answers will show what to expect in the next White House!

Damien   January 9th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

I think the majority of you should learn politics before you comment. Wasn't it slick willy who gave us NAFTA how many of your family members or friends have loss job due to that policy, didn't he give China a cruicial nuclear chip, wasn't he jocking or hinting about making a run as the UN secratary. How patriotic can that be.

By the way Mrs. Billary universal health plan looks real good.

Drug and device makers have donated about $275,000 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, making her the top recipient of money from that sector, followed by Mr. Obama, with $261,400, and Mr. Romney, with nearly $259,000.

It's all politics they all lie dem and rep at least Obama is trying to to bring the American people into the lying process, by lying to ourself saying we want change. Same old song different group same old song, I rather sing a new tune with Obama or vote for a Rep then hum along with the Clinton's.

Funny all Clinton's fan are shouting how good the economy was when Bill was in office learn your politics it was a pay/go policy forged by G.W. Bush Sr. LEARN YOUR POLITICS PEOPLE .

Jack in upstate   January 9th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Whats the point of having more experience if the experience is bad experience?

Listen to what people from Hillary's state are saying about her. Rochester is losing record numbers of jobs, but she promised a 200,000 person increase in jobs for upstate NY in 1999. It's not just Rochester it's the whole of upstate NY. Farmers are losing there farms; 600 farms were lost in 05-06. For an area that prides ourselves on local farming that is a very depressing statistic.

BobW from Rochester made some interesting points as well.

People please do some fact checking on what this woman has done as a NY senator. As far as I'm concerned her experience is that of NOT coming through on her campaign promises, and if experience is such a BIG factor then we should all expect the same from a Hillary presidency.

Cyndi   January 9th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

This strikes at the heart of Obama's message. Does this country still want war? If the answer is "yes", Hillary's experience is perfectly clear. She has sided every time with the President.

I first met Obama at his now famous 2002 "this is a rash war" speech. His position has been very loud for very long to anyone who will listen, and very clear and consistent. If the answer is “no”, the country does not want war, Obama is the clear choice.

I'm saddened that our country is distracted by the fear and warmongering moving forward. I had hoped our country was beyond this. Please people — move past your bitter war lust. Our country bleeds yet again.

judy Robinson   January 9th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

Even the New York Times Editorial talked about Bill Clinton's "hurling himself over the edge on Monday with a bizarre and rambling attack on Mr. Obama. " It is a sad day when a Democrat uses the Swift Boat mentality to try to win an election. Barack Obama, a man of integrity, would never stoop to Bill and Hillary's level of negative campaigning. I hope the American people will recognize the lies, racist undertones, and deceptions that Hillary and Bill Clinton are using. The American people were fooled by Bush and his campaign tactics. Please don't be fooled again by Hillary and Bill's!

Senator   January 9th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Please stay away from that snake oil salesman of "HOPE" and "CHANGE". He is only talk and no substance. We are better off voting for a candidate with experience and who can get advice from the people who gave us 8 Golden years of great economy and peace.

President Hillary !   January 9th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

well said GiGiovanna

IOWA PICKS CORN AND NEW HAMPSHIRE PICKS PRESIDENTS

*:• •:*¨¨*:•.* HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON*:• •:*¨¨*:•.*

Derick   January 9th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

The Clintons are trying to make Obamas positons and ideas similar to Hillary. They have have become bankrupt of ideas. The fact remains that Obama opposed the war from the start and no twisiting of facts will change. By the way, I do not know why this is about Bill Clinton, is he running for a third term? Americans need to wake up!

RuthieM   January 9th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

Bill Clinton, just like his wife and her campaign, are sounding just like racist pigs.
Obama needs to bring up Bill Clinton's disgraced white house as long as he continues to attack Obama. He also should continue to demand their white house papers that show all Hillary's 'experience?' Afterall, they need to compare experiences. But all Hillary has on Obama is age which is the only thing being mistaken for her 'experience'.

Democrats Rule, CA   January 9th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

CNN predicted a 10 points lead before last night's primary. Hillary won in a very narrow margin. It was a very close call, but that's a vote swing of at least 12 points. She is definitely the "Comeback kid" in every sense. I hope the rest of the states will also give her the comback she rightly deserves and needs.

I don't understand this anti-Clinton sentiment from supporters of Obama & Edwards camps. Why are they so spiteful? Some of them even consider voting Repulican if their candidate does not win the national primary. Certainly, everyone has the right to vote which way his/she likes. I respect that right. I just don't understand the rationale behind it. I'm a steadfast Clinton supporter. But , if somehow Obama or Edwards emerges as the nominee, I will definitely vote for the guy because I'm all for the "people" and not just one "person."

Sean   January 9th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

The following is beginning to circulate:

"Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire are circulating after Hillary Clinton reversed a mammoth pre-polling deficit to defeat Barack Obama with the aid of Diebold electronic voting machines, while confirmed votes for Ron Paul in the Sutton district were not even counted."

What do you think?

Tom   January 9th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Obama, like Romney is a big bag of hot wind, talk talk talk, both say nothing. Yuck!

cc, Chicago   January 9th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Am I the only one who finds Hillary Clinton a wee bit condescending? People voted with their minds for me, not their hearts? So anyone who disagrees with her platform and agrees with another candidates lacks intelligence??? Hillary, if you want to go all the way to the White House, I might respectfully suggest taking the "insult the electorate" tactic out of your playbook.

Tracy   January 9th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

IF HILLARY WINS = NO CHANGE AND AMERICA WILL BE ECONOMY WILL COLLASPE AND THE OUR COUNTRY WILL BE WEAKER.

IF OBAMA WINS = CHANGE AND AMERICA WILL LIVE ON AND BE STRONGER AND PEOPLE WILL BE MORE HAPPIER.

Lastly, I think Bill Clinton want to be president again, not Hillary.

Nick   January 9th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

This guy's inexperience is telling !!!!!! Look at what he says ….

"I said from the start that Iraq was a bad idea. I also said from the beginning that if we were gonna go in then …."

Basically, he has said both for and against the war in the same breath!! He himself doesnt have one single stance!

Obama supporters … please start looking for things deeper than just those glorious words that he keeps repeating! He is all gas and no substance!

Walter Mason   January 9th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

See Barack Obama Run!

I think the one thing everyone forgets is that this young black senator from Illinois has single handedly changed the political landscape for republicans and democrats. Weather you like him or not. Our weather you think he has enough experience or not. Every American owes Barrack Obama a debt of gratitude. He going against all odds just stop and think about it. His skin color, his Muslim Grandmother, multi racial background, experience, and he was raced by a single mom, also his willingness to fight for economic equality for all people. I really admire him to put his reputation his family and yes his life on the line. I only wish him God speed and good will. Barrack has really forced all the candidates to bring there A game and get in touch with the people. They can know longer feed the public a bunch of lies and spin. I am so proud of him and I think every American should stop and think what would the presidential race would be like with out him. God Bless you all and Barrack and his family. He is a great American that embodies the true American sprit. See Barrack Obama Run!

Walter Mason
Salt Lake City, Utah

Samantha Klein   January 9th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Obama likes to take stands after the votes happen. In other words, he doesn't have to commit himself to a position without the benefit of "hindsight". Politicians who do not vote on particular issues should not use those issues to define their political posture or position. In fact, they need to use the issues they vote on to make that case.

The truth is, nobody knows how Obama would have voted on Iraq. I don't know why anybody cares. Obama needs to take a stand now on issues, and, let's face it — he could be wrong. Let's hear Obama in detail on immigration, Iran,
Afghanistan, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a resurgent Putin and Russia, Chinese militarism, the failing U.S. dollar and other troubling issues.

Since he doesn't a whole lot of experience dealing with those types of serious problems, I'll bet he'll be wrong.

Alex   January 9th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

When did CNN become so biased? I think it's becoming more and more obvious that this organization has an agenda against the Clintons, and I think it's unfair. And all this time I really have respected CNN…

Candace   January 9th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

On October 2, 2002, when majority of the Americans supported invasion of Iraq (see for example polling data collected on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_popular_opinion_on_invasion_of_Iraq), Barack Obama gave a passionate speech against the war. He was a senator in the Illinois State Senate at the time, a rising star with a stake in his political career as much as any other politician. In fact, this was preceding his run for the U.S. Senate beginning 2003.

Here are some excerpts from his speech, but here’s also a link to his full speech: http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php

“After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again. I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism.

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

He also predicted, in the same speech, the type of problems we would have if we invaded Iraq:

“I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.”

Robert S., New Orleans, Louisiana   January 9th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

I don't think voting for change means voting for another politician that tap dances around their past record.

Obama loves Clintons   January 9th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Give me a break, all of those involved with Obama are former Bill Clinton advisors., NO CHANGE!

I'm voting for a republican if slickster Obama gets the nom,

NO to Hillary   January 9th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Debbie,

Oh please Hillary did not stay with Bill for any marriage vows. Why would she wreck the Clinton machine? She had full intentions of running for president before Bill's term was even up. If they went through divorce, it would have politically ruined both of them. So then she ran for Congress. When was that, 7 years ago? So why are we considering her SO experienced when she's only been in Congress a FEW more years than Obama.

Micahel Guinn, Ventura, CA   January 9th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

To the Hillary supporters who continually bash Barack Obama: "The day will come when this outrageous and unfounded arsenal will come back and bite you on the backside." I really believe Barack Obama will be the Nominee, but if it's Hillary- you will need the millions of Obama supporters.
Keep up the BS and you will ensure another Republican Administration in 2009.
In the words of the next President, "YES WE CAN!!"…and you need to wake up and stop acting like republicans!! This isn't a fairy-tale and it's not false hopes…It's REAL.

Jenny   January 9th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I third to Gbryant 's comment.

Jeff from Jersey   January 9th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

We darn sure don't want Obama's DNA in the Whitehouse!
Talk about slick will you?"Slick Obama" is the watchword of the day.He's uniting americans alright.He's uniting more and more of us against him every time he opens his lying mouth.You think Clinton is a liar?He's the Pope compared to "Slick Obama",

"Just send me money and give me your vote and I'll make everything all better!".Yeah,that sure sounds like he's different doesn't it,yeah right!
That's the real Obama druggie thought process at work.

Here's what he was probably thinking when it came to vote on Iraq:

"I'm the junior Senator from Illinois.I'm a black democrat.The war is going to pass easily no matter what I do.If I vote for it I'm not going to advance my career but if I vote no I've got a shot to get some notoriety.If the war turns out well,nobody's going to care that I voted against it because my real dream of being president won't happen but if it turns out that the war goes badly,I can really make some advances in my career.What do I have to lose? YEAH,THAT'S THE TICKET!I can get power that way.Yeah,that's the ticket.I can always tell them down the road that I had a dream to be the first black president,no,just that I have a dream,yeah that's the ticket.IHave a Dream!Now just where did I hear that before?Heck,if the war goes right I can always tell them that I was too young and inexperienced to vote for it,yeah that's the ticket.Too young and inexperienced but only if the war turns out okay.I can't tell them that now.Yeah that's the ticket,the ticket to get what I want.I'll just tell everyone that I have a dream for them,yeah,that's the ticket.They're dumb enough to go for that".

HolliA   January 9th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Chrissy
"Is everyone forgetting that he wouldn't even put his hand over his heart to say the pledge about a month ago? Is that the type of Prez we want?"

Please check your facts:
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/category/

LOOK AT THE VIDEO HE PUTS HIS HAND ON HIS HEART!!! (look for yourself)
It would be great if people formed INFORMED, INTELLIGENT opinions instead of listening to rumours.

"Obama Said His Grandfather Taught Him The Pledge And To Put His Hand Over His Heart, "During The National Anthem You Sing." Obama said, "My grandfather taught me how to say the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 2…During the Pledge of Allegiance you put your hand over your heart. During the national anthem you sing."

BTW I'm an Edwards supporter. Obama is my second choice. If Hill-arious is elected I will be one of the Democrats that WILL NOT throw my support in her corner. She is going to safely alienate the Edwards/Obama votes….and that won't win her the presidency. Her victory was small. 48 states to go!!!

Jack   January 9th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

What I see happening from all this is
the percentage of people who would never vote for Hillary is going to grow.
Making her completely un-electable in a general election.
If that is a good thing or a bad thing, depends on whom your asking.

BAMPZS Fan   January 9th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

UGH! Barack now has Jesse Jackson running his mouth down in SC and slamming Hillary and making fun of a woman who cries. So much for good guy Barack! Lies lies lies! It's ON! I'm even crossing over and supporting the Republicans with outting you. Thank you for dividing my party!

Sharon   January 9th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Obama is such a WHINER! When he doesn't like the truth he whines that he's the poor victim of negative politics. Hey, Obama, you said it, you snorted it. Be a man and quit whining because you're starting to sound like George Bush.

L.G   January 9th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Bill acted as a republican. He thinks after him and his wife nobody
else at the democratic party can be president. They think they are the only family with right to be president. No other are qualified for them. After me is you and
nobody else. It's sad for democrat. there is no progress, no hope for other. I hope
people will give a chance to Obama for a real Change. Go Obama.

Jayne Chapman - Boca Raton, Florida   January 9th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Two things.
First, at the beginning of this lousy illegal war, once we had troops in the field, all of us, for and against , the war had to stand united – there wasn't much choice. Obama has always expressed his opposition to this war – remember, when funding bills are put together there are things in them that if you vote against the bill you are always hurting someone. So, you have to weigh your opposition to what you want the soldiers in the field to have. Obama, being a moral man, always went the moral road.
2) I strongly encourage everyone to read Adrianna Huffington's 1/7 post: Portrait in Cynicism: Hillary Attacks Obama from Every Angle" – it is stunning what you will learn about the garbage that went on the days before the primary. I always admired her until recently – I'm sorry, you can't just do and say ANYTHING in order to get elected – you should retain your moral authority – Obama has done this – he sticks to the issues and the facts – always! The only thing I will have to think about if Clinton gets the nomination is the Supreme Court – I know I won't be able to vote against her because of that – the only question will be if I can hold my nose and cast a vote for her – as a woman I am truly ashamed of what she and her team stooped to.

Anonymous   January 9th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

My memory of the Bill Clinton administration is a lot of compromised promises and a lack of commitment to ideals. I worry that when HRC says she wants to bring the troops home, that she is not really as committed and sincere as the other Dem candidates. Are we going to hear "If I knew then what I know now" and be jerked around for four more years, while our troops remain in harms way in Iraq? At least with McCain it is WYSIWYG but with Hillary isn't it GIGO? Also, the Clintons are so willing to role over to corporate interests and to make deals with them. Isn't Edwards correct about universal healthcare, when hes says we need to slap down the insurance companies so that there is a level playing field so that we can really revamp the system properly? Wasn't it Bill and Hill who were so gungho about NAFTA and now that our jobs are evaporating (as predicted by Ross Perot) Hillary is parroting her "If I knew then what I know now" mantra. I think people are not familiar with Barak Obama so that frightens them, but I still believe he would really bring some honesty and integrity to the office of the Presidency. My experience with the Clintons is that they do not deliver their promises, they do not stand by their ideals or even their supposed friends (remember Lani Guinier?) and that they really say whatever is polically expediant and go whichever way the wind blows, that is why HRC gave the OK to Bush to preempt a war in Iraq in the first place – she was playing to the "mood" of the country. I am concerned and worried. I think Bill really wants to get back to the WH and will use all of his considerable persuasion skills to get HRC elected. But let us not forget, that the reason Bil was so detested by the right, was not his politicks as much as the fact that he would seduce them with handshake promises he did not keep. The Clintons were and are still polarizing and we need to have a new beginning and national unity for our country to move ahead. And, I am sure, no future Dem administration will deny Hillary her moment in the sun, when it comes to healthcare policy.

Seyi   January 9th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

Prior to the civil rights movement, there were so many nearsighted folks that couldn’t realize the “fairy tale” of ending racial equality, likewise a fairy tale of an Arkansas governor with infidelity issues occupying the white house. The truth is, we love fairy tales and hope our dreams come to pass through them. Yesterday was necessary, what’s the use of a win without a fight? Stay tuned for the next fairy tale… More tears for Hillary on Feb 5 and the White house occupied by a guy who dreams big for our country and happens to be black. Clintonites… Get ready to hang it up!

R West   January 9th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

The way I see it, the election process is liken to an elaborate job interview. Assuming all candidates have met the basic requirements to fill the position, all that is left in the decision making process is prior experience. It is not probable that any candidate would have presidential experience, thus leaving only one option, deciding which one has the most experience in a related field. Get real, no one would hire a person to fill a high level position based on what he says he will do. The White House is no place for on-the-job training.

Debbie   January 9th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

To Linda:

GIVE ME A BREAK!!! So, you won't vote for the person who has the most experience and shows strength IN OFFICE because she decided to honor her marriage vows and give her cheating husband another chance?? How does that say she won't stand up for her country? If she takes a vow to protect her country, that means SHE WILL DO IT, NOT WALK AWAY OR LIE TO THE PEOPLE LIKE GWB DID. That would be the most pathetic excuse NOT to vote for her. On the contrary, I think the fact that she DID stay with him shows her strength and character. She was not an abused woman. If so, then I probably might not respect her. However, do you realize how many men cheat on their wives? The divorce rate in this country would be 90% if all the woman then left. Obama is a "nice speaker", and has a great outlook, however, he does not have experience at all. And, I'd like to hear, along with others, about HOW he expects to produce the change he is talking about without any experience. Look at what we have in the WH now. A man who tagged along on his daddy's coat tail.

Also, to all you people condemning her because of Bill's lies, that was HIS lies, not hers, AND, did it effect the economy what his extracurricular affairs were in the Oval Office? NOT! Did it put our country at risk? NO! Did it triple our deficit? NO!

Hillary is a strong, experienced woman and she has my vote. GO HILLARY!@!

David, Brooklyn New York   January 9th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

when President Obama takes the oath of office, Alot of you good ol' boys in Washington are………..otta here.

alot of you CORPARATE THUGS are……….otta here

alot of you DRUG COMPANY VAGABONS are………..otta here

alot of you HEALTH CARE INSURANCE CRONIES are……..otta here

alot of you deep pocket CROOKED LOBBIESTare…..otta here

and guess what….
I saved alot of money switching to OBAMA!!!!!!

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ASK ,WHAT WILL OBAMA CHANGE.?…uhm WASHINGTON!!!
it's about time!!!!

mary   January 9th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Hilary is Smart, as is Bill, as far as i am concerned there was 1 mistake made in the Clinton years, and BIG DEAL none of anyone's business, Hilary will make a fine President of the United States and they will make a great team. Oh ya and Bill Clinton is the only one who fits in that catagory, not to bright.

Ryan   January 9th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Damien, not to go on a tangent, but radiation hardened (rad-hard) technology is used for any environment with high radiation, not just in the event of a nuclear detonation. Rad-hard is also useful in protection of radiation encountered in space and low-earth orbit from cosmic rays, solar particle events, and when in the Van Allen belt. In other words, Rad-hard chips are VERY useful in satellite applications!

I'd avoid commenting on things you know very little about, or at least read the wikipedia page on radiation hardened equipment.

Amy   January 9th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Now you started against the Clintons. Last night all the Obamaniacs were quiet. Many idiots are there. Go and work lazy guys!

Hillary'08!

citizens for change nyc   January 9th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

How long before John Edwards, a good man, realizes he's playing the role of Ross Perot for the Clintons?

Shaun   January 9th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Bill and Hillary are a joke. A vote for another Clinton is not a vote for change.

Hillary Clinton whips up a few fake tears and you idiots in NH fell for it. Pathetic.

Allen Seney   January 9th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

I would like to know the following?

A) What bill of bills has he been involved in the Senate , since he has
been there?

B) Has he changed his health proposal since it was found that
it doesn't cover everybody?

C) What specific steps would he take to end our conflict (War)?

D) What experience (s) does he have that allows him to think
that he should be our President?

E) How many votes, has be made and had his vote count?
Other then being present?

F) He has great speaking skills, he is very smart and he is
appealing but what strength does he possess that would
make hom a strong candidate for the position of President?

Franky, New York, NY   January 9th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Way to go Clintons! Obama can now call the Clintons his Godparents for their Baptismal of him into the REAL world of politics.

Obama was getting too cocky; even referring to the down Clinton campaign, as "depressing, pathetic and desperate". Maybe they were, but now take it in the teeth. Be aware, be humble, people are watching and listening, and the more this happens, the more they're going to figure out that the Emperor (Obama) has no robe..

john.smith@gmail.com   January 9th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

I will put out a solid bet that the only way Democrats are going to lose this election is by making "Clinton" the nominee! Thank you Republicans for bring back to the conscience of America the following:
"Hello, I never had sex with that woman, but now I will when HC is overseas!"
"What is, depends on your definition of "is": What IS taking money from…?
For those who have been following the Republican machine, there was a series that showed the number of FILE CABNETS that have been developed for the Clintons. Like the "ferry-boat", she is going to sink along will all the Democrats again! Wake up America, the enemy NEVER goes to sleep.

Sue   January 9th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Can't you do the attacking yourself, Hillary?

av3   January 9th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

i wish these blogs were civil dialogue rather than petty mudslinging/namecalling.

there is rarely substance and fact to any of these posts.

whats worse is that it is from all comers, not just one side or the other.

as a first time voter, i just realized why people become politically apathetic. this is absolutely ridiculous.

toejam houston texas   January 9th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

The point Senator Clinton was making is that after the Nov.07′ election, the platform the citizens voted for was to bring home our troops. Bush"W" immediataly afterwards shun the citizen vote and inplemented his "The Decider Surge" . The Democrars had to have at lease 60% of the vote to override his dictoral forcefulness. Senator Barack went to the side of Bush"W" That's what Senator Cleton was referring to. She voted opposite of Senator Barack. She stated she voted against Bush:W:'s decider vote because he lied already to her and the American citizen on information justifying attacking Iraq. You know that bushbots. You are making the art of eating your hats a common feat.

Joe   January 9th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

all i have to say is if Clinton gets it.. i'm moving to canada

republican, thinking of switching to DEmocrat   January 9th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Clintons dont like to lose. Hang in thier Obama, you an inspiration. Keep boycotting FOX!

Miles Anderson   January 9th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

I hate to point this out, but while valuable, experience isn't everything. We've had plenty of experienced presidents who were able to goof just fine on a fantastic scale.

Lisa,Corpus Christi, Tx.   January 9th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Since when is clariftying your position whining? The only problem is he should have done it sooner.

I thought I heard him congratulate Hillary in his speech last night….sounds pretty gracious to me.

Actually, the American people were the losers last night…the Clintons in particular. To see a former president attack a candidate of the same party in such a negative manner is disheartening. It would have been more logical for him to share Hillary's so called 35 years of accomplishments.

Obama may very well get the nomination. It will be extremely difficult for President Clinton or Hillary to lend their support to the democratic party in crunch time. It was an extremely selfish move by the Clintons. This is exactly why Americans need a change. This is politics of the past.

Justin   January 9th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

I also think it's important to point out that Hillary lost by a much wider margin in Iowa than Obama did in NH. Hillary lost by 9 points in Iowa (coming in 3rd), while Obama only lost by 2 points in NH (coming in 2nd). His rise in NH is astounding if you look at where he was just 2 weeks ago. NH was supposed to be a no-contest no matter what happened in Iowa. It's even more impressive if you look back a few months. Obama was firmly behind Edwards AND Clinton in NH, but he pulled within a few points of first place.

DD, New York   January 9th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

to blogger Ohio: Re Obama's speech referencing drug companies and health insurance companies having a seat at the table: That was Obama's comment on Edwards' speech when Edwards said that the health insurance companies and drug companies will not have ALL the seats at the table…But doesn't Obama have a big time lobbyist on his campaign team as we speak (blog)?

mark   January 9th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

My money is on the fact that most of the pro-clinton posting support are Republicans. They know she's their best chance to keep the White House.

Nathan Keaton   January 9th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

I hope her tactics in fighting terrorism are not the same that she uses against Obama—crying and stealing her opponent’s slogans.

J   January 9th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

I am so proud of OBAMA! He is a true example of the American Dream. Regardless how this race turns out, I think he has shown that nothing is impossible. He has done an excellent job illustrating what he plans to do as the next President of the United States. He has just as much EXPERIENCE as JOHN F KENNEDY did when he was elected. He is highly educated, poised, and presidential in nature. This is the leader the USA needs to represent us in the Global Community as a diplomat. Just because one candidate served as First Lady, does not mean she has more experience. OBAMA has what it takes and I believe the American people can see through the lies of the Clinton campaign. As any young person today in a high position will tell you, experience does not guarantee expertise. There are a lot of people older in age, but that does not guarantee RESULTS. We need this new, fresh face in politics, to represent a new America that will use bipartisan ideas to move the country forward. Enough about the first black or the first woman president! While these are both important to progress, we need to select whoever is in the best position to unite Americans and move this nation forward. There is no rule in the US Constitution that says you must be VP before President, so as far as I am concerned OBAMA is READY NOW. American cannot wait for tomorrow, because today is the time to change the state of out nation. Go OBAMA and thank God for all the Americans in New Hampshire that came out to vote for change and selected OBAMA. The rest of us are excited and cannot wait to go to the polls to vote for OBAMA as well! Change today, because tomorrow is not guaranteed!

Heretic   January 9th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Someone made a good point above that this was basically a tie. They both got the same number of delegates and that is all that matters. What he or she left out is that despite Obama's supposedly large victory in IA, he only got one more delegate than Hillary. As for superdelegates, she has about 65% more than he does. So, the reporting all around on who won this or that state and what it means has been bogus hype. What is true is she is way ahead in delegates right now. So, she is winning the race without "really" winning either state.

From The North   January 9th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

I have to disagree with the poster that said Hillary is the most divisive in American Politics. GEORGE is most divisive, deadly. arrogant and narcisstic. politician and leader throughout the world.

He's now on a new path trying to resurrect some fame and glory by rattling the Iran Cages to see if he can stir up the Lions.

I truly believe he will use any excuse he can find to initiate a war with Iran before he has to leave the WH. And it will be all about saving his face and mustering a bit of glory for the History Books of tomorrow! So I must thank all the Americans who elected this pathethic shell of man as President of your Great Nation not once but Twice! KUDOS

He may be in for a big surprise this around however. As Putin will not be with him he'll be on the other side and I suspect the other side will have a few more world leaders as well.

Sean   January 9th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Until this election, I've never soooo many people go on and on and on so ignorantly about how important experience is! Let's not forget about raw talent, the ability to listen and to think constructively, not to mention the ability to inspire others while being critically decisive. What good is experience without those traits?

And what experience are people alluding to, exactly? Experience in supporting a political system that is largely responsible for the Middle East instability that brought about 9/11? Yes. What these people who cite Obama's lack of experience are saying is really, "We want the status quo. We want to continue to push American values on the rest of the world BEFORE we even begin to try and understand who it is that we're dealing with. And in our naivete we'll continue to be baffled when the world lashes back at us. Because that is what those with political experience have done up until now."

Don't get me wrong, experience is an important factor, but if anything, in this case its merits are doubtable at best. As much as Clinton's voice may break, and as much as she may try to say differently, she is firmly entrenched in the old guard mentality and she'll continue right in step with the Bush-Clinton-Bush-(Clinton) program, what with Bill constantly hovering over her shoulder.

Obama has a much better chance of bringing a fresh perspective to revitalize the U.S. political landscape which has really become the country's great shame as of late.

Justin   January 9th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

I think it is hilarious that so many of the Clinton supporters are talking about how they think Obama is whining when all Clinton did after losing Iowa was whine and even cry! Every sentence out of her mouth was just a big self pity party. All Obama was doing was defending himself against false accusations. I would expect ANY candidate to do the same.

jones...Mpls   January 9th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

May be we should have South Carolina today for Hillary to win . Big Bill blamed the media for not giving Hillary enough time to recuperate from Iowa fiasco. Hellooo!

SOUTH CAROLINA here we come. The Truth shall be told. … All ye Hillary apologists

Tina   January 9th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

YAWN!!!!

manny james marietta ga   January 9th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Guys,calm down! the Republicans and Independent went back home last nite. In Iowa the conspiracy worked by getting the Repub and Indep to cross over and vote against hillary to make her look bad. The media also played their part by telling the people of Iowa how to beat Hillary. " get the repub, Indep, and everyone in the Hood to turn-out against Hillay.. They tried to do the same thing in New Hamshire but the one man, one vote did them in.. Way to go Hillary. She will win the nomination..

BAMZS Fan   January 9th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Obama admits campaign/ PAC donation links

Bad news for the Barack Obama camp and his politics of hope clean-guy image.

The Washington Post reveals today that there was, indeed, close coordination between the Illinois senator's presidential campaign and his leadership PAC, Hopefund, in deciding which local, state and federal politicians around the country were to receive thousands of dollars in contributions from Obama's PAC.Such coordination appears to be forbidden under Federal Election Commission rules because it, in effect, would give a candidate another, less regulated financial fund to influence the outcome of his own campaign. But Obama officials express confidence they violated no rules. The Post's John Solomon reported the other day that Obama's Hopefund had distributed money in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire to people like New Hampshire state Sen. Jacayln Cilley, who got $1,000 from Obama last summer. Six days later the Democrat in the nation's first primary state announced her endorsement of his candidacy because she said she believed in him.Likewise, Obama's PAC gave $9,000 to U.S. Rep. Paul Hodes, who was New Hampshire's first congressional member to endorse Obama. In the earlier story Obama spokesmen denied any connection between the PAC and Democratic presidential campaign.But today's piece alters that account and says the PAC has distributed $180,000 to groups and candidates in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Iowa and another $150,000 to similar destinations in states with primary balloting through mid-February.Bob Bauer, private counsel for both Obama's campaign and PAC, named names of those from the campaign who'd help select the PAC's recipients and professed confidence the Obama entities had met all FEC regulations.But Scott Thomas, a Democrat and former FEC chairman, says: "He is clearly pushing the envelope."

Barbara Gray   January 9th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Who is running for President — Bill or Hillary? or Is Bill the designated ad man to distort the positions of the candidates — in particular Obama.

I voted for Bill Clinton and I understand he wants his wife to win. I'm surprised somewhat at his actions and making unfair statements regarding Obama.
I saw Bill Clinton on Charlie Rose's show before the Iowa Caucus. He commented that the country needed to elect someone with experience and specifically mentioned Obama. Clinton was asked, and I paraphrasing here, if he's saying Obama is not qualified or lacks experience. Clinton was somewhat evasive, and commented that he likes the guy, but was simply stating that the country needs someone with experience. Bill after that interview and another comment he made that caused some controversy, became a liability and he disappeared from the radar screen.

After the Iowa election, he resurfaces in NH. I saw a clip of him in NH the day with the primary meeting with a group of young people. He was having his own little town hall meeting as if he were running for President. He commented that Obama's was not telling the truth about his position on Iraq. Hilary in her tearing display commented that the country would be making a mistake by voting for someone without experience, that voting is not a game and should be taken seriously by the voters, and the right person need to be nominated or there will not be a change. Did the voters in Iowa not take the process seriously? Was she saying that Obama, since he is her greatest threat for the nomination, is not the right person or could not get elected if he received the nomination? At the New Hampshire debate the candidates were discussing energy and she interjected with a comment about Obama's policy on Iraq. He did not get the opportunity to respond. Not to mention Bill's comment about Obama's candidacy being a fairy tale.

In Oprah's campaigning for Obama, not once did I hear her say anything negative about the other candidates. Her purpose was to introduce the man to the voters and it was done with grace and dignity.

With the above being said, "What will Bill do or say next about Obama to get votes for his wife? Will this now turn into a negative campaign because Bill wants to be President again? What will he say in Nevada, South Carolina etc. to hopefully pull in the votes?

I know this is politics, but if one must resort to distorting the truth, if one must pretend emotion to get a vote, if one must put a negative spin on a candidate, — I question the integrity of that candidate running for the highest office in the land?

Hillary won by a narrow margin in New Hampshire; however, Obama won also because his campaign was won on integrity.

So you tell me, "Who's the candidate — Bill or Hillary?"

Barbara Gray

Kollie   January 9th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Hillary Clinton won the N.H. primary alright, she won. But how pathetic does that sound, and how embarrassing? Through out the 2008 presidential race Sen. Clinton has always portray herself as the inevitable candidate among her fellow demoncratic contenders and she had dwelled in such vain personality until the Iowa Caucuses caused a tremendous setback to her campaign a week ago. After the Iowa Caucuses, Sen. Clinton soon realized she was living in a fairyland. And in order to raise her head a little above the bottomless grave in which she saw herself, she had to cry for the N.H. votes. How sorrowful. This is just the beginning, and let us all remember it as we watch Sen. Clinton's demeanor in the months to come and then we will figure out if she cried because she really do love this country or if she did so to draw sympathy from N.H. voters just to get back in the race which was almost over for her. Keep crying Sen. Clinton; you are good.

Erik   January 9th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

So, has anybody realized that the last time the Clintons were in the White House, a certain terrorist group was planning their every move to destroy the US due to its hatred for the United States and its government? Oh, no thats right, they only started planning their attack the day Bush took office. Ya Right.
I dont know about you, but I certainly do not want to return to that era, ie: the Clintons in the White House.

Brian, Austin TX   January 9th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

you people are flipping out as if he attacked Bill Clinton. All he said was his words got twisted. Which Bill Clinton woulod do… his wife is running for president. I'm telling you though Hillary Clinton's "experience" is b.s., she would be a do nothing president that would get wiped out in 2012, or atleast divide the country further… She would try and have old school Bill try and handle the foreign mess, while she would just be taking up space…. The only real choice for president is Barack Obama…… or John Edwards..

OBAMA '08!!!!!

Michael   January 9th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

You go Hillary Clinton! Only CNN would publish the above picture of Bill Clinto waving to the crowds with you and Chelsea…There were so many great pictures of you smiling and thanking the crowd but, one-sided CNN chose the picture above. Thanks again CNN for your bias.

joli   January 9th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Im a dreaded Paulite. So obviously I was disappointed by the Republican results in NH. Im glad Obama is getting a little taste of what is to come… politics is dirty… duh. If he thinks its hard now whats he going to do against the Rep attack machine. They are going to drag him through the mud. I can already hear it… "Osama I mean Obama" … "his daddy was a Muslim…GASP" …. His middle name is Hussein…AHAHHHH!"… "He refused to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge!!!!" This along with every vote, every comment, every Dean sound…etc scrutinized over and over again…

As far as his love affair with being an agent of change …give me a break. Any candidate running will bring some change…hopefully a positive change.Obama's fan base… from what Ive observed… are like Elvis fans. Some openly admit they just a have a good feeling about him and that they dont know the details of his plans. You know we tried that 8yrs ago… going with the likable candidate that had less experience. The candidate that promises change and assures us that they will unite us not divide us. People who felt that having a beer with a candidate put to rest any questions as to their ability to handle this job. I dont think we need to go down that road again…

Marie VanDyke Royal Oak Michigan   January 9th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

OBAMA TALKS SO MUCH RHECTORIC HE TWISTED HIS OWN WORDS
BILL JUST RELAYED WHAT WAS SAID..OBAMA IS A LIAR

rw   January 9th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

To Scott
HERE HERE!!

Message from Colorado   January 9th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Colie Brice,

You are very intelligent to name him like that–Bill is a cold-blooded liar.

Yeah Right   January 9th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

"Bill Clinton was taking some liberties with my statements" is very different from using the word "twisted". CNN, our politics are dirty enough without adding to the mix. Shame on you.

lorraine   January 9th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

I am starting to dislike OBAMA – he is too cocky and smooth, so beware of the silver tongue – on the other hand I am still in Hillarys corner and hoping she will keep on in the same manner, gosh by the time we get to the actual elections all this talk will be so boring – why not just say look this is what I stand for and this is how I will act and this is what I promise do, make a recording of them all and leave it in the closet till about a month before the election and take the recordings out and play them once more,,getting sick sick sick sick of so much election coverage on TV but feel I should watch so I can stick up for Hillary.

Erik in NC   January 9th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

For everyone who keeps asking how Obama plans to effect the change he keeps talking about, go here and read the OBAMA BLUEPRINT FOR CHANGE:

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

GiGiovanna Timor Pascarella   January 9th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

It is comical to listen to "Obama" claim that he is the answer to the "people's" cry for change. He sounds like a circus tent revivalist mouthing off borrowed words from past preachers and swindlers who have nothing to offer other than those words linked to nothing.
I cannot believe the American People would be so naive in their desperation for change to consider yet another inexperienced, barely out of diapers politician to lead this country during one of its most challenging periods in history because he is a black, male politician instead of making the simple choice of selecting an experienced, brilliant and strong woman, who by virtue of her gender is already born with abilities that her male counterparts could not even aspire to possess such as courage in the face of aridity and unsurmountable odds, stamina worthy of a Roman Legion, superior communication skills, multi-tasking skills, organizational skills and a tireless will toward diplomacy and peace rather than conflict and war and who has been for decades inspiring her male counterparts with her intelligence and dedication to a job well done.
We should look to the Cherokee People and other Indian Nations for clues on how to run a peaceful and prosperous nation, who had two Chiefs in every tribe.
The War Chief, who was a man, and The Peace Chief, who was a woman.

Colo   January 9th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

Barrister/ uhh seems to me like the only people voting for Hillary are feminist…

Karen   January 9th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

I absolutely disagree with Linda J.

Don't go to his website and look at the machine driven, machine polished, machined spin of a candidate. Go to government websites and look at ALL of his votes, not only the ones his machine want you to know about. That's manipulation, not honesty. It's your opinion that counts, not his.

Don't go to his machines website and get his machines spin on what the current media positions are. Read history books, political literature, and study the issues. There is an abundance of info on the net if you hate books. You can find information on military conflicts involving around the world if you want to understand foreign policy. A two year senator has access to no more information than you. You have a much right (even an obligation) to have your own views on foreign policy. It's your opinion that counts, not his.

You can go to govt websites and legitimate websites to find out everything you need on Medicare and Social Security policy. It is your opinion on social issues that count, not his.

Don't rely on ANY candidates website. If you want your country back, it is more than going to a voting booth. Being involved is more than casting a vote.

Big AL   January 9th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

If Obama wants to insure a victory in S.C. I would suggest that he pretends to cry when the camera's are around. It worked for Hillary, maybe it'l work for him.

As far as Bill Clinton "Twisting his words", everyone posting a comment here are snickering. You have to admit, slick willy's the best there is at that. He's probably a bit upset that he had to do it, as he's been working his magic or revisionist history on his legacy.
These 2 have 2-4 positions on every issue. It's just easier for them that way.

Marc, NY   January 9th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

Hillary's experience edge over Obama consists of four years in the Senate. Considering the historically slim mandate afforded the President, I would have to say the opposition put up by the Democrat's to Bush and Cheney driving us off a cliff would have to rank as perhaps the weakest opposition party performance in our nation's history. Post 9/11 hysteria is not too blame –
110 Congressional Democrats voted for the war authorization; 147 Congressional Democrats voted against it – 57.2% of Congressional Democrats got it right! Still trying to figure out why any of the 42.8% who voted yes on possibly the worst mistake in our history even warrant consideration for President.

zeita lei   January 9th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

Obama…Obama…Obama…we wish you God's guidance and we believe in the hope that you have given us. Even in our everyday lives this hope is what is keeping us to be strong to fight life's battles.
United we stand and divided we fall.
God Bless America.

stan pitts pa   January 9th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

hrc crying or breakdown was because someone mentioned something about her look, and she wept wow, i didnt see her weeping when our soldiers were getting killed in iraq, and katrina e.t.c they are a selfish power-hungry couple, its all about what they want!

Larry H   January 9th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

This election is all about one thing and one thing only–WOMEN.
Period. So Mr. Obama, please realize this and tell Mr. Edwards NOT to gang up on Hillary because WOMEN will not like that. Period. If you want to win this thing, you MUST win with WOMEN. Period.
Now for the women voters out there…If you like slick men like Bill…If you admire egotistical, slick women like Hillary who only have 'history' on their minds and NOT you, and if the characters of people you elect don't matter to you as much as their genders, by all means, elect your Hillary. Get your woman up there. Make her history for her. Just don't come crying when you find that she hasn't helped you or your family in your life. Or when she hasn't provided a good, honest, unself-centered role model for your daughters to follow. Or when she reminds you how great she is, greater even than MLK, while you're still struggling to make ends meet. Don't worry, it's all good. You'll have Bill's oh-so-truthful chuckles and smiles and the establishment-for-'change' to tune into for every state of the union….and of course, let's not forget, you'll have your WOMAN.

CC   January 9th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

Darre, Are you sleeping with Bill and Hill? Do you really think Bill Clinton and in that case Hillary, has told the nation the turt? Come on now. Bill Clition cheated on his family for years (check the records) and no one has questioned that during this election year.

Their daughter works at a hedge fund so I do not think that Hillary would go after her daughters pay-check like they whent after her boyfreinds.

Check your facts dear.

Andy   January 9th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

Hilary is a Fake and takes money from Lobbyist and special interest. How can she help us change this nation and she has already sold her soul the lobbyist and Special interest in Washington.Obama and Edwards did not take any money from special interest and lobbyist.She stands for the Status Quo, the old guard and this is not what the nation wants.

Heya   January 9th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

Other than being a good speaker, I can't see anything good in Obama. He keeps talking about change – but he is so vague abut the changes that he is talking about. He does not give any details whatsoever. But man, he is good with words.
Also him saying that he has opposed to Iraq war is meaningless,