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I am an independent. If Obama or Edwards want to get my vote, they will have to explain to my satisfaction why they pulled their names off the ballot in the Michigan primary. How can I expect them to "change" anything in Washington when their actions show that will do whatever the party orders them to do.

Lets see what happens in the Jeb Bush state...he moved his primary date up also ...it was moved up a few weeks ago. All of this seems pretty Republican to me.

hillery clinton and bill clinton are very pleasant,attractive people,highly intelligent-can voice/ comment/ answer questions/ conversations unscriped. all traits i have witnessed the scripted staff on cnn. minus a few,,,lack. is this why the snarling, vicious attacks on hillery. o'reilly- rush limbaugh and sone republicans have character enough to question these vicious attacks on her laughter, emotions, cleavage, clothing, and likeability. where are your comments , questions display on cnn. film,network of barac obama. his muslim background,, racial hatred groups,, does not pledge allegiance to the the flag of the u.s.a.,, shown on your network. democratic candidates, hand over heart reciting the pledge. barack oboama last in line stands rigid arm, hands at side, mouth closed, hand off bible when sworn into state and u.s. senate,,,.. why, ask him why. what bible does he prefer.. who does he plege his allegiance to . why has he been able to propell over highly experienced cadidates.open the door to barack obama to what he does not want to hear ,,, not what you and he and your manager want to hear.

This Article Specificaly left out the fact That Dennis Kucinich is on the Ballot there and IS Campaiging there ...
The Media refuses to give Dennis any coverage .. wich is destroying our democracy ... they have also basicly now left eddwards out of the race now ..I wouldnt be surprised if they exclude him from next debates .
we must stop Media control of our election process NOW if we are to ever return to some form of Democracy!!

To Jennifer in Mich, and Ben in Flint Mich: You both advise Former Obama Girl to go to either Obama's website or visit a local or national Obama headquarters where someone there will explain Sen. Obama's plans to her. Might I add another bit of advice here? I believe it would be wise for Sen. Obama to do the same: go to an Obama site and learn what his plans are. If he only knew what they were, perhaps he would be able to express them to voters instead of speaking in generalities and catch phrases. From the beginning Edwards and Clinton have been articulating what their goals are and the steps they will take to accomplish them. Now it's up to Obama to let us know that he has, at least, some idea about how he will achieve his goals.

Those of us who choose not to support Hillary, are not necessarily anti-women. She is untrustworthy and simply not the best canidate. Just because you choose not to support Obama doesn't make you a bigot. I personally support Barack Obama. He has the right vision. He has gone to great lenghts to research his plans. He is intelligent, a good speaker, and just what our country needs right now. John Edwards is also a great canidate. Although I support Obama, I would not be upset to see Edwards in office. Best case senerio would be President Barack Obama and Vice President John Edwards. But, that's just one man's opinion.

I HAVE PUT SEVERAL COMMENTS ON HERE ON HOW THE MEDIA HAS CHANGED MY MIND ON WHOM I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR, BECAUSE OF THE RIDCULING THEY HAVE DONE TO A CERTAIN CANDIDATE TO WHOM I ADMIRE VERY MUCH, BECAUSE IN THIS DAY AND TIME DIVORCE IS THE ANSWER IT SEEMS, BUT THIS PERSON CHOSE TO KEEP THE MARRIAGE, FAMILY AND CAREER FOR WHAT EVER REASON ,IT STILL COULD NOT OF BEEN EASY. AS FOR THE BAD HAIR DAY WHO DOESN,T HAVE ONE AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS OR RUNNING A COUNTRY. I WILL LISTEN TO ALL OF THE CANDIDATES UNTIL ITS MY TURN TO VOTE AND PRAY FOR GOD TO HELP ME TO DECIDE, BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY I HEAR I TRULY THINK WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT SO COME ON GUYS LETS GIVE THEM A BREAK. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO REPORT THE PROS AND CONS BUT SOMETIMES YOU GET CARRIED AWAY. THANK YOU AND IF THIS DOESN,T GET PUT ON I AM GOING TO GET UPSET .REMEMBER I AM FROM THE SHOW ME STATE

I share the outrage of the Michigan Democrats who have written protesting the Democratic primay debacle. The people who created this fiasco, Governor Granholm, Chairman Mark Brewer and Senator Carl Levin are all supporters of Senator Clinton, whether they have formally endorsed her or not. The urging of the latter two to vote for an "uncommitted" slate of delegates is utterly disingenous. This is the same as choosing a perfect stranger at the precinct door toe exercise your right to vote however he or she chooses. Brewer and Levin want a small vote for "uncommitted" to give a patina of fairness to an election in which tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Democrats have been disfranchised. Were CNN and the other national media to publicize how this situation has arisen, who is chiefly responsible and the rage it has provoked among loyal democrats like myself, viewers and readers would grasp that this is a major political scandal. A cabal of Clintonites has stolen the primary in the nation's ninth-largest state. Their smarmy claims that the primary will make Michigan matter in the primary selection process are as disgusting as they are false. The leaders of the party have trampled on the most fundamenal right in American democracy. Senator Levin declares loudly that the delegates chosen in what will be a rigged Clinton victory will be seated at the Democratic convention in August ("not to worry, Clintonites" in other words) and he is probably right. The stench of this election will linger long afterwards and many like me who would have welcomed a Clinton victory in a full and fair primary will not be voting on Tuesday and, should she win the national party nomination, making the same choice in November. The Party will not allow us to cast votes for Edwards or Obama now–they have even passed a law invalidating the votes of anyone who dares to write in their names (how's that for a democratic rule?). They should not be permitted to get away with this, and the reporters covering this outrage should not present it as some sort of unavoidable snafu with (a familiar phrase in the scant reporting) "plenty of blame to go around." Michiganders know that party satraps could easily have avoided this fiasco; instead they deftly brought about precisely the result they intended.

To the posters saying that this "Vote Uncommitted" is a conspiracy against Hillary: It really isn't. It's just a way to vote for another candidate. Hillary shouldn't be denied the nomination because she's a woman, but choosing another candidate is not anti-woman or anti-feminist, it's just choosing a different candidate. And in Michigan, the only way to choose a different candidate is to vote Uncommitted or vote in the Republican primary.

To the posters saying "Blame the candidates, not the DNC" and/or "Vote for Hillary, she left her name on the ballot": The DNC forbade candidates from campaigning in Michigan and decided not to seat our delegates, so they really did play a pretty big role in this situation, and deserve a good part of the blame. And at the time Clinton decided not to take her name off the ballot, she said it was because it was unnecessary, since the delegates weren't being counted anyways. She hasn't opposed the decision to ignore our delegates (and hence our votes), and she hasn't campaigned in Michigan. So she's not blameless either.

The fact is that the entire Democratic Party is to blame, from the DNC to the Michigan Democratic party to the candidates to the Democrats in the state legislature that voted for this disastrous plan. Fellow Michigan Democrats, please let party leaders and your legislators know your thoughts! See my earlier post for a link to a site I have set up on the issue, which has links to contact the people responsible for this, and also an online petition to sign.

D, two words: Margaret Thatcher.

Hillary is the Maggie of the Democratic Party.

People have this ridiculous notion that female leaders would make the world an idyllic, tranquil place. Female leaders have been pro-war (not to mention corrupt) in the past and will continue to be in the future...just like male leaders.

Let's remember, Hillary helped put our nation into Iraq in the first place.

I like both Obama and Hillary. All the Dems are ok with me.

But.... what is the 2008 presidential race really about?

This race is not about terrorism, education, healthcare, the economy, the environment, religion, race or any of the other issues that we pretend to be interested in. It is about only one thing, and that is gender.

We were shocked and/or amused when those two hecklers disrupted a Hillary speech to shout at her "IRON MY SHIRTS!" (The guys who did this worked for a morning radio show and were doing it as a publicity stunt).

The truth is, many men and woman believe that is exactly what Hillary, and all other woman, should be doing. We just don't want to admit it to ourselves. It is politically incorrect.

No one, male or female, wants to be thought sexist. But Hillary scares everyone,
since she is doing something that no woman has done before.

We don't want to admit that we are sexist, so Hillary is attacked relentlessly by both men and women for her past behavior and supposed faults.

When I read each one of the attacks on Hillary, I ask myself
"If she were a man, would they be saying this?"

Most of the time the answer is no.

Hillary is trying to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling in the USA. It is no wonder she is being vilified.

Some history for those of you who are interested in learning facts. The rest of you go on to the next post...or just flame away....
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In the early and mid 1800's neither woman nor blacks are citizens of the USA nor are they allowed to vote.

The two groups work together to try to gain the rights of citizenship for both blacks and females.

After the civil war, BLACK MEN (only) are given the right of citizenship with the passage of the Fourteenth amendment in 1867-68. This amendment goes to great lengths defining citizenship.

It states that they must be "male". It is clear that woman are being excluded from having the legal and voting rights that they would have if they were allowed to be citizens. This is the first use of the word male in the Constitution.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
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In 1868, the fifteenth amendment passes Congress, giving the vote to black men only.

"Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by
The United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."

It is obvious those women are being deliberately excluded from voting. No political correctness here.
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At this point, black men have what they want, and woman of all races are left to fight on their own for universal suffrage. For the next 52 years, women who fight for the right to vote are arrested and jailed when they try to gain voting rights. In 1886, women are excluded from the dedication ceremonies for the Statue of Liberty.

In each election, brave woman attempt to cast votes, but they are arrested and the votes are discarded.

In the 1890's, suffragettes begin work in each state to gain voting rights. Colorado gives woman the vote, followed by Idaho, Washington State, California and Alaska, Oregon, Arizona and Kansas.

Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony die, having never cast a vote despite working for that right for over 50 years.

As woman get closer to having universal voting rights, physical and verbal attacks on suffragettes become increasingly violent. In 1913 they are attacked by mobs and hundreds of woman are injured. (Editorial comment. This is a typical response to woman who are gaining power.)

Woman are arrested, jailed and brutalized in an attempt to scare them away from their goal, which now appears to be within reach.

In 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment is ratified. “ The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

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"So what?" you say? "That is ancient history."

Not quite. Nothing has really changed in the last hundred years. Although women have been able to vote for 87 years, we have still not been represented in the highest or even the second highest office in America. Why is that?

We have still not had a black president or vice president. When a woman gets within reach of presidential power, the violence and attacks escalate in an attempt to humiliate, discourage and exclude her.

Although Obama has black blood, he is not being attacked in public or in print as Hillary is. Is there more fear of a woman being president then of a black person being a president? It appears so to me.

What demographic group has been most excluded from seeking the highest political office? Women are 50.7% of the US population, so why haven't we had a woman president?

Don't tell me a woman can't do the job. (So what is the reason???)

Blacks are 12.8% of the population.

I think the people who are best able to analyze this are BLACK WOMEN.
I want to know, are your going to vote your gender or your race?
If you HAD to choose between only those two factors, what would it be?
Which has the biggest impact on your life?

It is clear to me that in 2008, sexism is more hostile then racism.

Would you say what you are saying about Hillary if she were a man?

This campaign is about GENDER...and nothing else.

Democrats of Wisconsin,become informed and take control of your future !

Go to http://www.fairtax.org and read up!

Our current income tax is dragging this country into the mud, and we have to make a positive change.

Goals of the FairTax
1. Eliminate all federal taxes including payroll, income, inheritance, gift, social security, medicare taxes.
2. Replace them with a National Sales tax which will fully fund all government programs at the current rate.
3. End the IRS.
4. Repeal the 16th amendment.

Advantages of the FairTax
Taxation becomes visible so everyone can see exactly what they are paying in tax. Make taxation fair, cause everyone would pay the same thing. Give incentive to excel to the American people and American business. Attract new business to this country. Make America Made products more competitive in the world market-place. And much more.

Learn about the FairTax, and then demand that your democratic leaders support it.

Thank you.

Personally, I don't think it matters what the Clinton campaign does. They can't win, because people immediately have the attitude "not her", and do not listen.
I listened to a town hall meeting where she answered question after question, and now she honestly will get my vote. She clearly knows what she's talking about. People just immediately close their minds at the mention of her name. I was that way also until I listened to everyone, and after voting for George, because he was going to change everything and bipartiasnship was going to be. We have the worst mess I have ever seen. Now, I have decided I want experience in Washington. Edwards is to weak. Obama can speak, but he does need to be around politics alot longer. The media is ridiculous. I use to like CNN, when it was about news, now it reports, and analyzes everything to death. The Obama wave is a prime example.

Ann,

I totally agree with you. People this is POLITICS! Politicians must play hard .. sorry. If you don't like that answer, please see the "We Are the World" – no real platform but I'm biracial so I have a better view on foireign policy" thought process of Obama.

Everyone is blaming Hillary for not taking her name off the list. I would not have either! What the hell! She wants to win. If Obama or Edwards truthfully thought they could win Michigan, they would not have. This is not about respecting the DNC, this is about giving the hell up and turning on Michigan!!

I don't know who I'm voting for, but I won't vote for Obama. He has handed me NOTHING in terms of concrete plans. I get that he has a lot of ideas of being Pesident .. but hell, so do I. Wanna make me President too?? I don't appreciate his bad impersonations of Martin Luther King speeches and I truly don't appreciate his growing arrogance, even in the face of a campaign that is really missing "the beef".

It's kind of sad that so many people don't even realize how misogynistic they sound in their responses. That so many don't want to see how biased the media is.

I would be outraged if I lived in Michigan. I really feel for you guys.

Go Independents for Change!!!
Vote you hearts and you minds!!!
Looking at all you FOOLS that allowed the sexist media management and the anti-feminist females that reeled all of you in with the Jerry Springer effect...I sit hear totally amused and chuckled at the very thought that you fell for it Hook, Line and Sinker. Geez, could you all be more ignorant to this?
Call Senator Obama and Senator Edwards and tell them how stupid it was for them to for-go Michigan. Senator Clinton did'nt tell them not keep their names on the ballot. See how cockey they were, to believe by not participating(by their own choice), shows just how serious they really took this race.
I wish the media would pose that question to each of them, to get their response. Do you regret for-going Michigan?
Poor Michigan, I totally feel sorry for you, especially those of you that supported Senator Obama and Senator Edwards.
If I were you all, I would direct your anger at the 2 people that need to hear from you, Senators Obama and Edwards.
Stop whinning and hold them responsible and not the DNC or Senator Clinton and please try to move on after to hear from them.

The Press is BACK on track to Woman Bashing again.... How sad... They never learned their lessons.

Hay did u guys see the photo in the last debate in NH, Look at there, Obama, Edwards, Richardson standing together like ...heee heee at least we r in a group and look at Hillary standing alone.... It seems that they love each other to attack Hillary? Yep u three guys if one of u win, another two will be Vice and Advisor to the president? Shame on u guys, u guys actually deon't think of how will u guys help or do for this country!!

Steve A,

You have it the other way – in fact, Republicans want Obama – a guy with no meat, muslim, a lot of hot air, and 136 PRESENT votes as a state senator and on and on...

They will have a fun day with him as democratic nominee. Go check some news letters on internet and you will get a picture.

Wake up America and don't be fooled again like you were in 2000 and 2004.

I am seriously considering changing party – I would rather be lableled as an _hole than an idiot.

some people may say Hillary is weak or tricky for her tear (she really didn't cry u blinds...) The media, people are pushing her to the edge and pressuring her so much but let me ask u guys did she fall down or bow out? She is still standing eventhough she lost in Iowa and she overcame lots of pressure as a first lady, a senator and now as a presidential candidate. Even if unluckly she lost to Obama, she still be standing gracefully. People blame on her that she did vote for war so let me ask u when ur fellow innocenent americans died bcoz of one stupid act how will u reply at that moment?
Let me ask u how ur belove obama would reply if he got a chance to vote for the war??? Do u think can he really really do"CHANGE THAT WE CAN BELIEVE" when he become the president of america. And how will he respond to his father and step father and his own previous religon if there will be another 9/11 attack happen again. Do u ever think that how it's so tough and difficult as a woman in politic but she is still fighting and keep going. it may be true that she made mistakes but does anybody never did mistake in their life??? How about obama? is he like a mistake free zone? just use ur brain my fellow american don't just dream or just blind. obama's speech may be inspirational like we watch in the movie but in reality things are more difficult than just talk.

NH was biased by the media coverage that Hilary recieved for the tears shed. I can't recall any other tears in History that got so much attention. By the way Hillary was crying because she saw that she was losing and not because she cares about anything. What would happen if she became president and was encountered with a life threatening difficult decision, are we going to have a president who will break down and cry.

I also think she must articulate better all this exlperience that she talks about. Let her explain How the ideas were concieved, managed and completed by her and what the results were. I think we will probably see that she does not have the experience that she says. By the way being the presidents wife does not qualify as experience. Ask the Pilot of a 747 jetliner if his wife can fly the plane just because he sleeps with her. Don't think so.

Michigan, welcome to the club. Love, Florida

Michigan, welcome to the club. Need any extra voting machines?? Love, Florida

Florida was similarly penalized by the DNC. Is Hillary planning the same thing here? What voting option is there for those of us in FL that do not wish to continue the "status quo"?

While agree that this trend of states trying to gain attention by moving up their primaries is foolish, what gives the DNC the right to take away citizens' right to vote? I was wrong to think that throwing the constitution out the window was limited to the Bush administration. I echo "GO VOTERS!"

Omaha, NE

The bi-monarchy takes roots...

George H W Bush
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
Hillary Clinton
Jeb Bush
Chelsea Clinton

If you want to CHANGE this get fired up and be ready to go NOW.

Hey, Clueless in Battle Creek:
You also missed the fact that Qwest is moving into Downtown Detroit. Brainy businesspeople know a good deal when they see one: reasonable retail rental prices, an educated workforce hungry for jobs, amazing geographic location and a cultural gem on top of all that.

Sure, it takes a little while longer for things to filter out your way but, do try to keep up on what's been happening lately (it would help if you turned off Fox every now and then and got some real news). If you get too bored clearing brush, look on the bright side, perhaps you'll have fun this summer at 'Taste of Battle Creek'...I hear there's a new cereal out this year!

Just let me know when you get hungry for some culture: I'll send you a postcard from the Ansel Adams exhibition at the DIA (you might want to get a frame for it at Wal-mart) or, maybe, if you open your eyes, you can see their cast of Rodin's 'The Thinker' as it travels to Grand Rapids this summer...on second thought, all that input might be too much for your 'system'.

The Republicans are running scared of Obama. As a former professor of Constitutional Law , he is precisely what our country needs now, after Bush, Cheney and Rove have done their very best to shred it.
The criminal Rove 's attacks on Obama can only give Obama A BOOST.

The Republicans have tooled up their campaign against Hillary, and are scared that she will not be the nominee.
GO OBAMA! "YES, WE CAN!"

Obama is for the People, The media, Elitists and those who have fallen victim to simple Bush/ she is a woman tactics, are for Hillary. It is time America got their act together and voted in a real individual . I'm so tired of bull politics , WE NEED A CHANGE AMERICA
Obama 08

Both Democrats and Republicans should join together to stop sexism that is apparent and alive in our country.

Hillary Clinton is right up there with the radicals and Bush. I just want someone who isn't disconnected from the people. Obama seems to be the only candidate that doesn't separate himself from the general public. I hope everyone in that state votes uncommited instead of the next "Bush" Regime .

hillary -- politics of tears ???????

The system (Government) is broke from top to bottom and it makes no difference who gets elected...this is the constant around the world. America will have learned nothing if it puts a Clinton back in office. It's time for a fight...Edwards will achieve this against big corporations...Clinton won't!

Obama will bring about a new sense of change...I just wish he and Edwards could be one person...it's a tough vote between these two only.

If your going to elect Clinton you might as well elect Bush again.

Sincerely
Your neighbor

I cant believe these folks are actually telling people in Michigan to "NOT VOTE" or
vote " UNCOMMITED ", they should be COMMITTED for trying this stunt...
The people of MICHIGAN need to teach these MEN a lesson ...... This is a prime example of how certain MEN want to control EVERYTHING, and it doesnt matter what party theyre in either... And the thought of a FEMALE PRESIDENT sends them all into the backrooms plotting ways to bring her down ....It is time America..
MEN have ruled the WORLD and U.S. politics long enough and made a huge mess of it all ...Look at where our nation and the state of the WORLD is now, we need change and only a female president who offers everything Hillary does will be able to affect it and affect it for the GOOD ...
If you notice, the MEN, all are after the same things and offering the exact same things and the way it has always been , it doesnt matter what PARTY theyre in, it is the same ole crap they have been doing since the beginning of time...
Theyre greedy, war mongering , nation dividing , and offer nothing but more pain and heartache ..
If Americans want real lasting change that will affect our country , AND the entire world, for DECADES to come and in more ways than just political , it is time for a FEMALE PRESIDENT ...

DO YOU THINK THAT OBAMA AND EDWARDS HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT GANGING UP ON HILLARY.. IT DID LOOK STAGED... THEY WERE SO CHUMMY CHUMMY. LIKE 2 LITTLE BULLYS ON THE PLAYGROUND...THEN DO YOU THINK OBAMA TOLD EDWARD... LOOK MAN I HAVE TALKED TO JOHN KERRY AND HE IS GOING TO ENDORSE ME.

I THINK OBAMA USED JOHN EDWARDS FOR HIS OWN ADVANCEMENT KNOWING THAT KERRY WAS GOING TO ENDORSE OBAMA.... WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT KIND OF INDIVIDUAL.... A POLITICIAN... A SNAKE OIL POLITICIAN.
DOESN'T OBUMMER CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. JUST AS HE IS STICKING IT TO HIS POLITICAL ALLY...

JOHN EDWARDS MUST BE ASKING “WHAT…NO VASELINE!!!!” …. YyES JOHNNY EDWARDS YOU TO CAN BE SHAFTED AS THE NEED ARISES

Democrats in Michigan should vote for Ron Paul and shame the other pro war Republicans!

Michigan vote for HILLARY–08

Hillary i love you BABE....YOU SO SMART...

AGRON MICHIGAN

wow...LOTS OF REPUBLICANS in this blog. MICHIGAN will go DEMOCRATS this election.

US PRESIDENT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

You know, this could have interesting implications on the GOP side. Since Obama and Edwards, the main candidates to draw independent voters, aren't on the ballot, a lot of independent voters are likely to choose the GOP election instead of the DFL one. That is a help for John McCain, and another blow to Romney.

Cnn: stop trying to tell us who we should be for in this election. Fire those who pick sides and dont just report events. Here's a new concept for you ...no one cares what you think.

Nobody that supports Obama and Edwards will vote unncommitted. All the comments that support each of them will be in vain, so don't fall for this unofficial spin to put the Democratic Party in question or to make you look like a bunch of ignorant and selffish individuals. You will be looked upon as self centered cry babies that couldn't get the rattler back when it fell on the floor.
If you want to hold somebody responsible, you should call each candidate's headquarters and ask them why they didn't choose to enter in Michigan. They made the decision not to and they made a political mistake IMO. Knowing that this race is just that important, why would anyone want to for-go any state?
Beware all you Obama and Edwards supporters, you will taint this nomination by voting uncommitted and the bigger reason is the very reason that each of your candidates tries to encourage the rest of us Americans in the country to believe, that indeed your candidate is HONEST. Be CAREFUL when this type of rhetoric of hysteria stirring is introduced...It sets you up.
I am proud of the Democratic Party, I hope all Democarats unite and swallow the negative pride and Move On and Up.

Why Obama and Edward did not take their name off Forida? Can you explain it to mee since you are all accusing Hillary for leaving her name on Mich.

Several of the posters above were, like me, Michigan voters who are extremely angry at the Democratic party for taking this action. Yes, Michigan's legislature probably shouldn't have violated DNC rules, but completely disenfranchising the entire state of Michigan is far to extreme.

I also saw several posters wondering what to do. I set up a Web site with some information and suggestions for making your voice heard on this issue. You can learn more at http://WhoStoleMiVote.org

Actually, I'm getting a little confused. Florida's votes don't count, now Michigans' aren't going to reflect the Democratic party's preferences. Perhaps, just perhaps, maybe voting uncommitted is, like, voting for the "Team" of Hillary and Bill incognito-wise.

I sincerely hope not. My Grandkids deserve much better!

Jose, are you confirming that the Clintons not only morally shamed America with unethical conduct but also 'looted' the white house furniture?

I am baffled as I thought it was just a media snap

Could it be democratic leader inter-party monkey business scheduling the vote in mid-January knowing that Michigan would be stripped of its delegates? "...but party leaders in the electoral-vote rich state have expressed confidence that they will be seated at the convention." This seems to have been planned for a reason...knowing that the uncommitted option is available and the Clinton egos are far too large to pull the Clinton name from the Michigan ballot.

Smooth move Michigan Democrats!

You know.....

I'm trying to figure out why our electoral system seems to be getting more and more convoluted. How is anyone supposed to know what's going on when there are more loopholes than a Congressional Budget Bill???

"Hi, I'm a democrat, and I voted for noone. Yet"

PRAYU: You REALLY sound INDEPENDENT!

How long have you been blogging for the NOBAMA CAMPAIGN?

Michigan whiners wanted CHANGE, and now you have it!

DEAL WITH IT!

Besides, GM "KNOWS how African-Americans will vote in DEEEETROIT! "

CNN has already called the MI primary for NObama!

Hey, it's a done deal! [IF you continue to shed tears, we'll have to call all of you HILLARY!]

IF you FEEL – We know you don't THINK – that it's unfair: TOUGH!

You cretins wanted CHANGE: YOU GOT IT!

JUST DEAL WITH IT!

You people are hilarious. Two weeks ago, every single comment on these pages accused CNN of being biased towards Hillary, or dismissed CNN as the "Clinton News Network." Suddenly Obama wins Iowa and picks up momentum and everyone here is accusing CNN of being biased towards Obama and too negative on Hillary. This is asinine. Hillary was BY AND LARGE considered the "inevitable" Democratic frontrunner for OVER A YEAR and was practically treated like royalty by every media source.

As for this particular story...not surprising. Hillary will do anything to get elected, even if it means bending the rules and going against the decisions of party officials.

I read all of this and all I can see from the majority of post is how bad Hillary is and how good the others are. So just because the others pulled there name they are following the lead to penalize a hole state. Maybe if you looked at it the other way Hillary choose to leave her name in defiance of the DNC to give a choice to the people. Maybe if the real "candidates" cared so much they would have left there name on the ballot to protest a clear view in my eyes to take voters rights away in choosing our next leader. Why is is shame on Hillary why not shame on Obama or Edwards for taking the choice away from the great people of michigan.

On another note I am glad to see a good race developing but we need to remember if we stay united and get behind whom ever gets the nomination will be in a better spot to go against the republicans. Unity is what is driving record numbers of Democrats out to vote we just have to take the unity and energy with our eventual nominee whom ever he or she is and make sure we don't falter and loose another election. This election is not just about the lesser of 2 evils it is about bringing back our nation to honor, respect and giving us all no matter what social strata you are in a chance at a better life.

CHANGE and HOPE. Can that snake oil salesman talk anything useful other than those two words? He is all talk and nothing else to take action on. Enough of Clinton Bashing. Where were you all, when you enjoyed the eight Clinton years of steady economic growth, low unemployment and peaceful times? This NOBAMA will not offer anything new to this nation. Don't waste your vote on him.

Well, I can't speak for Michigan because I'm a Floridian. That said, I'd like to point out that the citizens of Florida had little or nothing to do with the Florida Legislature's decision to move up the primary. Our state is controlled by the republican machine, and as a result my vote in the primary is likely not to count unless we do something like these folks in Michigan are proposing.

I love Bill Clinton and often said that I'd do anything to get Him back in office. I didn't think that would mean electing Her president. Of course Hillary will get my vote in the general election if she gets this party's nomination. I'd just rather John Edwards get my vote in the primary AND general elections.

It seems like we democrats are spending a lot of time attacking each other for supporting different democratic candidates in the primaries. Maybe we could save that energy for attacking the republican candidates in the general election. Just a thought.

Hay Ada,
How about Obama? do u think there is no division between Aferican American? For Obama not only in American citizen but also in religon. What do u say Ada?

ANYBODY BUT CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vote for Hussein Obama

LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! The media, polls, and commentators must feel like fools by predicting that Hillary would lose by double digits. They all have their tails tucked between their legs now while they are licking their wounds! We already have a person in the white house who is inexperience! Why would you want to put another one in like Obama? And if Hillary does win, You can join in with the mention above!!! Good wound licking!!!! Go, Hillary!

Hillary has played by the rules, as always, and will do fine in Michigan. I think the voters there will do their homework, learn about the positions and relevant experience (or lack thereof) of each candidate, and choose their candidates accordingly. I think they will, as the New Hampshire voters did, vote for substance over hype.

I wish i lived in Michigan just to I could vote uncommitted.

RON PAUL 08

Notice, I am from MI. Most everyone I know who is democrat is going for the uncommitted vote. One, we like Obama. Hillary has proved time and time again that she is fed by the lobbiest and special interest. When her hubby started being pals with daddy Bush they both started turning my stomach. Hillary and Bill are Washington in every way and in Michigan we want change. We want honesty back in the White House and we do not want anyone that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
I am saying my prayers that our uncommitted vote can beat her!!!!!!!

the world needs a president in office that feasr GOD AND PUTS GOD FIRST. THE BEST PERSON TO VOTE FOR IS HILLARY CLITON

I find it so curious when Hillary won in New Hampshire – the news reported she sqeaked by Obama. In Iowa, she was a lagging 3rd and gonna be out according to the media when in reality Edwards just barely passed her.

Everyday the news has to have at least one negative Hillary story.

What was Obamas negative story today????? Well you can easily make them up just like you do for Hillary.

You guys are so freakin unfair it is not even funny.

the world is fallin apart people – dont pick someone you wanna go to a basketball game with (cause you never will) pick someone that truly has experience. He has so little experience. I fear for our country if he wins – but I know the republicans will win if he gets the demo nom.

Dont waste your vote on Obama – vote Hillary and give the Dems a chance.

Should Hillary be elected, we will have to set a budget for buying expensive insurance to cover our national treasure in the White House.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/1190410.stm

"And then only days later we heard that the Clintons had walked off with something like $190,000-worth of White House furniture."

Just how can we trust the Clintons with our nation? The illegal campaign donations from the Chinese? Lincoln Bedroom for rent to big donors? The loss of our satellites and missile guidance secrets to China during the Clinton administration?

Thanks to Bill Clinton! Now China can shoot down our satellites any time.
You won't be able to watch CNN. Our forces won't be able to see where the enemies are without those eyes in space. Are you going to bring the Clintons back for more damage to our national security?

Becky....Read up on what the candidates did when your state representatives decided to move your elections up – Edwards and Obama bailed – Clinton stayed on the ballot with good reason – in hopes that your representative will get it together – looks like Edwards and Obama have little faith in Michigan's reps.

David...where did you read that "..."??? More negative speculation – so who is dividing up the people?? The news media – anyone in particular? Without proof the comments are nothing more than that and I take it that the intent is to create division.

Stephen – Uncommitted is not a vote for Hillary.......

Ok all of you Obama people, how can you as americans support someone who doesn't even believe in our pledge of allegiance? Come on you want him to be president, why? Also who has really listened to him, how is he for our middle class/our children/healthcare.......I really hope that to all of you who keep chanting his name really know what you are doing.

It's like everyone take one step forward if you all agree to withdraw...they as they all step forward Hillary steps backwards...she is a ruthless and dishonest person..

with the Klinton's it's all about power...they would eat their young for power....

I won't slam Clinton, vote Clinton or uncommitted. As an Obama supporter I would say Uncommited. But I have a question, what does uncommited mean if later you get a voice, can you then have a vote?
But the reason I'm writing is this:
It's a shame these people are not going to get a say, I also don't agree Iowa and NH should get so much say. But you know we only hear about this right before elections, and I don't think that is the time to make changes. I say the time to do it is right after the election, as soon as we vote, let's start working on this problem!!!!
I would like to see something like dates set for primaries or caucuses, and right after the election every year a lottery like system picks what state goes in those dates. The dates are set but not the states!!! Of course it's just an idea and people alot smarter then me might find that won't work!!!

It is a sad commentary for this nation when I read comments like from Xavier, Washington, DC who feel that Obama may have won due to the fact that Michigan has so many blacks. Is that really a reason to elect a President? No matter DNC or RNC.....think – think – think and make decisions based on a thought process other than color. To vote for someone just because they are Black, or to suggest that they would win a contest just because they are Black is insulting not only to the Nation as a whole but to each individual voter.

OBAMA 08.

The Hillary bashers on this ticker wouldn't be baying like basset hounds IF HILLARY WERE NOT SO STRONG AND HEAVILY TIPPED TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY. The louder they bay, the more bitter their words are, the more hate they exhbit towards Hillary, the more it is being seen how UNBEATABLE HILLARY IS. The increasing number of anti-Hillary comments prove one thing: Obama's supporters and anti-Hillary campaigners are getting more and more frustrated in their bid to dislodge Hillary from her front-running position in the current primary/caucus wave. They indeed are moving hell and high water to pull Hillary down, but they see they are not making any progress – hence their hysterical drive to bash Hillary march to victory. They keep piling themselves over one another. Their increasing envy and hate for Hillary is Goliath to Hillary's David of talent, experience, intelligence of a woman it will take NEVER for America to replace. Without Hillary, there can never be a woman President of the US. She is matchless and her detractors are not willing to concede this. Anti-Hillary women, get over your dumbness!

If you want delegates...PUT YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT!!

By calling for the uncommited vote, Obama and Edwards are again trying to embarass Hillary. Stick it to them and vote for Hillary!

Go Hillary!

DEBBIE DINGELL!!!!! IS THE REAL CULPRIT!!!

FOR ALL YOU FOLKS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF MICHIGAN HERE IS THE REAL TRUTH!!!

DEBBIE DINGELL SITS ON "THE STATE & NATIONAL DNC COMMITTES"(THAT IS UNFAIR IN ITSELF)(BLACKS SHOULD HAVE A VOICE @ THE STATE LEVEL WITH THE LILLY WHITE DNC, BUT WE DONT) I BLAME THE STATE'S BLACK POLITICAL LEADERS FOR NOT BEING DEMANDING ENOUGH FOR "A SEAT @ THE TABLE WHEN MAKING RULES CHANGES"!!!

UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR STATE MOST BLACK POLS ARE "CHASING THE MONEY" & DONT CARE ABOUT "BLACK VOICES BEING HEARD DEMOCRATICALLY IN PROPORTION TO OUR PARTICIPATION"!!!!

DEBBIE DINGELL ALSO SITS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR G.M.....
& SHE REPRESENTS THE AUTO INDUSTRY ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND JOHN DINGELL......

WHO HAS BEEN IN CONGRESS CLOSE TO 40YEARS.....(THATS WHAT I SAID)...

THEY HATE OBAMA, BECAUSE HE HAD "THE NERVE", TO TELL AN AUDIENCE OF "WHITE CORPORATE MONEY", "TO CHANGE YOUR AUTO'S TO HAVE HIGHER C.A.F.E. STANDARDS"!!!! ( HOW DARE HE SPEAK TO US SO BOLDLY)????(YOU KNOW THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE THINKING)!!!

SO DEBBIE IS DOING THE "DNC WASH.D.C. PARTY INSIDERS & G.M.", A BIG FAVOR IN RE WRITING "THE RULES TO FAVOR HILLARY"!!!!

RECALL JOHN DINGELL & FIRE DEBBIE DINGELL OFF OF THE DNC NATIONAL & STATE COMMITTEE!!!!

NO DRAMA WITH OBAMA IN 2008!!!

I like what that tj is your slice wrote. I guess he expressed himself.

DEMS-

Sean Hannity was absolutely giddy about Hillary winning on Tuesday. Anytime that piece garbage is happy, we should be unhappy. The republicans WANT to face Hillary. I would love for her to be president, but I fear she would lose the general election, and I'm not willing to take that chance. There's too much at stake.

Obama would beat any of those republican clowns EASILY. That's the matchup we need! Hillary supporters NEED to think about the general election; just by nominating her doesn't mean she'd be elected president.

Vote Obama for a sure win! (or, I guess, in your case, vote "uncommited." that really sucks)

o A sensible way out of Iraq
o Gave and continues to give healthcare greater visibility
o Pragmatic
o Will allow tax breaks enacted by George bush to lapse. Our generation will have to pay our own bills rather than lay them at the feet of our children and grandchildren. A true Democrat.

Vote Hillary!!!

Now the Clintons can blame the vast left wing conspiracy if she loses.

ANYONE BUT CLINTON '08

Hillary with all her 'experience' sent America to war in iraq leaving us with close to a trillion doller debt not to talk about the loss of precious lives of our loved ones.vote anything but Hillary!

BE HAPPY, BUT NOT FOR LONG.
Barack Obama'S COMMING BACK STRONG

Can someone please answer these questions with specifics?

1. Health Care, Senator Obama will require Children to have Health Care but not Adults. So how about their parents, the ones that most often cannot afford insurance, but need it to stay healthy to care for their children?

2. The National Deficit, How does he plan to fix that and explain how it will work?

3. Social Security, Again, How does he plan to fix that and explain how it will work?

4. Education?

5. Immigration?

6. Bi-Partisan across the Country and in Party lines?

If he's already laid them out, I some how missed it.

Thanks
Charlee

Since Michigan was probably the state that suffered the most under the Bush regime, they really should have gotten to vote first. I'm so tired of Iowa & New Hampshire voting first. Out of all the states in the country they are probably the most out of touch with the rest of us.
As for Hillary, I think she did the right thing by leaving her name on the ballot. Taking your name off is the same as denying voters the right to vote for you. If
I were running I could care more about peoples right to vote than about DNC rules. Edwards & Obama basically indicated that they would rather follow a rule that was unethical and wrong than support the voters. I'm undecided, but not happy with either of them for their inability to do the right thing. If following the rules means disenfranchising voters then they should break the rules. I have until
Super Tues to decide, but I'm leaning towards Hillary. In the past 35 years she has done a lot for women & childrens health & welfare. In addition, when Bill was pres, I lived quite well & I wasn't constantly hearing about the danger I was in. I'm tired of a govt that tries to rule thru fear and greed. Why is it that the poor in this country now pay a higher % in taxes than the wealthy? thank you George!

Kate

100% agree with you.

Hillary is a weak woman for "standing by her man." Always the victim! I would love a woman to become president. I just don't think that Hillary deserves "the first woman president title." I want a strong woman for president.

I do not vote for someone who gets teary eyed, has an near-emotional breakdown and says "it's not easy" about the election. If she feels that way about the election, then I definitely don't want to see what she would feel like in the Oval Office, if things got too tough for her. If she can't get it together for the election, I don't her running our country, and has a breakdown when she finds out she cant handle the pressure of the presidency. The people of N.H. are very nieve and should have re-considered this before they voted!!! I feel she is not ready for the presidency and would feel much beter with Obama in the office.
OBAMA FOR '08.

Libs cant see Hellary is a liar and a cheat. She be and say whatever she needs at that very moment. Hellary is NOT PRESIDENTIAL!! Neither was Slick Willie! Enough with the hillbilly clintons. Isnt two familys controling AMERICAS direction scary to anyone? Give someone else a chance......its in all our best intrest!!

New game show...Guess the Imposter !

America...think long and hard before voting for a self professed drug user. An addicted chain smoker who hasn't the willpower to quit like millions of other average citizens have accomplished. An individual who spent at least part of his/her youth as a student studying Islam and Muslim teachings.

He/she belongs to a church that is a separist organization.
He/she doesn't even support his/her own supporters...just ask the minister of the church that this candidate states is their place of worship.

Nor does he/she come from a poor family as claimed. His/her Father was a wealthy landowner. That makes liar a part of his/her personna as well.

Presidential or Impostor...please do your research of all candidates before pressing that game button and you will have "Guessed the Impostor"!

I thought "uncommitted" WAS Hillary!

Hitlery wishes she could run for president all by hersel, now her dream has come through this time, enjoy it because it will be the only time.

She stands for change alright, change your life for her style to keep you in favor to get goverment involved in every day living. Tax the crap out of you, scare you into thinking the government will be there in case of a hurricane, remember Katrina anyone.

She isn't going to change anything for the better she and her sick husband are in this race for one thing and one thing only...for themselves.

What experience does she have, none Obuma has been a senator longer than her, she hasn't changed or done anything to change things in 35 years like she wants you to believe she has...show me one thing. that is what I thought, nothing.

Go Obuma!

To Bob, Flint MI & Bob W: It seems to me it would be prudent for Obama to contact his local or national headquarters to find out what his plans are so that he, in turn, will be able to explain them to the voters.

The supporters of the other candidates willing to stay by their party and not putting themselves above the party which gives them support should vote uncommitted, don't implicitly support Hillary Clinton because she wants the race more then the health of the process and her own party.

The Democratic Party did not want Michigan to move up their primary date and is angry as Clinton chose to be on the ballot anyway, unlike her candiate rivals who play "nice" with the Democratic Party rather than Michigan Voters. By voting uncommitted voters reinforce that candidates must do as their party dictates. NO THANKS!

CNN runs negative stories about Hillary because she does lots of negative things. Like what happened in this situation.

Is it Obama's fault that he's getting big name endorsements left and right, and that his positive and uplifting campaign is still rolling along? No, it's not. Stop blaming the media for every little thing that goes against your candidate, I'm sure none of you said anything when Hillary was touted as the obvious winner a few months ago, or when CNN writers sympathized with her fake emotional showings.

Oh and actually, the Republican candidates have all but stated that they are ready for Hillary; but that Obama is far more of an unknown and worrisome opponent because of his ability to galvanize the youth and get Republican voters to cross over. He's far more electable than she is at this point, because she is divisive and polarizing. Many Independents like myself will simply not vote Democratic if she gets the nomination.

more Hillary bashing!!! I think people are affraid that she will show up the men! If Edwards and Obama took their names off the ballet thats their choice. Hillary is the only one that can beat the Republicans..... LETS NOT BLOW IT AGAIN Democrates!!!!!!!

CNN needs to get off the Hillary Bashing also!!! Lets hear about the others!!! Are you guys looking for the country to pick who you want To be president?

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE!!!

Michigan Help Barack Obama. Hilary Clinton is not going to change anything. She will probably just start crying again.

I am all for Mrs Clinton, and sincerely hope that when she wins she will tell us like her husband did that the two of them are one package. When we elect one of them we get both of them. That is what Bill Clinton told us in 1992. I pray that will be also true in 2008 and on 20Jan2009.
Also, the unmitigated chutzpah of political parties telling the sovereign voters of the sovereign state of Michigan just how and when we should vote. And especially the pernicious idea concommittant and following this with mathematical certainty that we in Michigan should by following these so called unelected and self appointed national arbiters we will passively and pathetically accept the leavings of others when choosing our national leadership. We in Michigan have the absolute right from the Articles of the Constitution of the United States of conducting our own elections. And other states having the same rights are precluded from interfering with us as we are from interfering with them.
Never should we give our rights away and our choice away by giving in to these manipulators telling us to vote 'uncommitted'. To do so is to allow virtually ANY candidate to be selected by shadowy unseen hands in and for our name.You might not even like or even have ever heard of some of these people.

I suggested earlier that the States should be penalized for moving their elections in direct violation to the Party rules. I have to admit that the DNC and RNC should penalized not the States.
Dean brought up a very good point. The DNC/RNC are unelected officials screwing with the voting and they are, in fact, at fault not the States,
As he said, the States have every right to set their own Primaries.
Florida actually said they moved the Primaries because there was already a vote scheduled in January for statewide issues and it would be too hard to get the voters out to the polls again in February so they decided to consolidate the two for better voter turnout.
That's their story and they're sticking to it.

The situation in Michigan is very bleak! We are still tied to the automobile, have high unemployment, and jobs leaaving the state in droves. Our Democratic US senators and democratic governor have done next to nothing to slow down this exodus. Now we wish to have a bigger role in the presidential election process because we are really hurting, and all the major players are ignoring us. Even the republican candidates flew here for one day and are now gone! Thnks to both parties for ALL the SUPPORT!

HILLARY DOES NOT REPRESENT WOMEN!!! .. How many women in your neighbourhood do you know who are like Hillary? Hillary has always lived the good life ... what does he know about the average person's life? .. and if you think Washington is divided ... you might as well close the place when she becomes president ...

Jim....

I think you put it best.....this will be this election's Hanging Chad

But the real powderkeg will come at the convention, Michigan still thinks that the DNC will cave and allow their delegates to be seated and vote. Part of me is kind of enjoying seeing the Democrats squirm under their own bungling (its been so long), there is no way that they can be allowed to vote at the convention without it becoming an even uglier mess than it is now...

You folks need to grow up. Whomever is voted President will not be able to make legislation...Congress and Senate do that. Also what does anyone know about Barack Obama...all you know is change...change to what? You have no idea. Some people are morons.

This smells like something the REPUBLICANS thought up ...Is ROVE advising all the males now .. Democrat and Republican ??? Males will obviously do anything to prevent a woman from becoming PRESIDENT ... Including selling their souls to the DEVIL (Rove and the Republicans)

Obama and Edwards voluntarily disenfranchised millions of Michigan voters by their actions. Backroom politics have taken priority over our constitutional right to vote. Iam even more dumbfounded that no seems to be angry about this. Then Carl Levin and John Conyers want voters to vote non commital instead because their boys aren't on the ballot. Michigan democrats should and must vote Hillary. Obama and Edwards want change alright they took themselves off the ballot. The changed the way of voting in Michigan primary. Voting non committal gives those losers a pat on the back.

I read this and though people should know
"Multiple indications of vote fraud are beginning to pop up regarding the New Hampshire primary elections. Roughly 80% of New Hampshire precincts use Diebold machines, while the remaining 20% are hand counted. A Black Box Voting contributor has compiled a chart of results from hand counted precincts vs. results from machine counted precincts. In machine counted precincts, Clinton beat Obama by almost 5%. In hand counted precincts, Obama beat Clinton by over 4%, which closely matches the scientific polls that were conducted leading up to the election. Another issue is the Republican results from Sutton precinct. The final results showed Ron Paul with 0 votes in Sutton. The next day a Ron Paul supporter came forward claiming that both she and several of her family members had voted for Ron Paul in Sutton. Black Box Voting reports that after being asked about the discrepancy Sutton officials decided that Ron Paul actually received 31 votes in Sutton, but they were left off of the tally sheet due to 'human error.'"

For the person who wants to switch to MSNBC: they run two negative stories to every one CNN runs.

I had to swallow hard to vote for Kerry. His endorsement means nothing to me. His gaffes after his loss are an indication of his presidency. As for all you HIllary bashers – you just don't get it. She's running to win and so are the others. They want it just as bad. If they pull the uncommitted play; she should pull a play on them.

Hillary Clinton is about the Economy, Healthcare, and Education. Obama doesn't come close; leave her alone. People scream no more Clinton, because they are a monarchy or something. Get real, Obama will not be ready for the republicans, nor will Edwards. Hillary Clinton shows that she likes Michigan enough to keep her name on the ballot. Question those politicians to pulled name off the ballot, not her, and I’m from Ohio.

Why must CNN run a negative story about Hillary EVERYDAY? They don't do that to anyone else. That's why I'm switching to MSNBC.

Only racist fools would twist the minds of informed Americans to knowingly vote "Uncommitted" on an issue that is important to the country. Are these the kind of politicians to follow at all.

The truth is coming out. Starting NH, Americans are beginning to understand that in politics, endogenous is more important than exogenous – that reality and fact are more important than rhetoric and body language or charisma without substance. Americans are beginning to understand that Hillary stands for what the President of the USA should be and not Obama with his empty promises.

"Mr. Obama has failed to rise to leadership on a single major issue in the Senate," Rove writes in a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed. "In the Illinois legislature, he had a habit of ducking major issues, voting 'present' on bills important to many Democratic interest groups, like abortion-rights and gun-control advocates. "For someone who talks about a new, positive style of politics and pledges to be true to his word, Mr. Obama too often practices the old style of politics, saying one thing and doing another," he said.

Obama's leadership leaves a lot more questions to be answered but foremost, how can he be an agent of change without experience? How can he change what he does not know? How can he change what he does not have? Experience in economy, healthcare and security are all in Hillary's bag and Hillary can change them for the good of all America. Obama has a bag of experience but it is empty. He has nothing to change.

My prayers and Best wishes to Hillary and I urge all Americans (black, white, oriental, hispanic) to support Clinton because they will never regret their votes. We did it in NH. NH understands that it is issues, not body language, which stands out in this campaign and Hillary is all about issues. Listen to her carefully instead of cheering at her and you will understand just like the people of NH did – the issues matter.

Seems to me Hillary was the only one smart enough to have faith that the State of Mich democrats would get their crap together and be represented just like the other states.

OK. Dave in Battle Creek.

I can NOT let your ignorant comments about Detroit go.

Downtown Detroit had the HIGHEST growth in NEW HOUSING in 2007 – of ALL COUNTIES in southeast Michigan.

More than 60 NEW restaurants have opened in downtown Detroit in the past five years.

Compuware, GM & Quicken Loans are all moving tens of thousands of suburban jobs into downtown Detroit.

A 100 Million complex was announced for Campus Martius downtown just this week, bringing more than 85 luxury residences, new theatres, retail, and restaurants to the city

The Newly Renovated Westin Book Cadillac sold the first $1 Million penthouse in the city's core and most of their NEW luxury condos are already sold

In addition to the Westin Book Cadillac, Detroit has seen two BRAND NEW hotels open downtown, PLUS the Fort Shelby Hotel which is now under construction.

During Superbowl XL, the international press raved about the city of Detroit, giving the city high marks for its service industry and atmosphere.

New Streets, landscaping, nighttime lighting and light displays, thousands of NEW residents in loft condos and apartments, new entertainment venues and businesses have been opening, NOT closing. While the rest of Michigan, including Battle Creek, has been suffering, Downtown Detroit has been one of the state's brightest spots of economic development and urban renewal.

YOU need to take a trip to the city. You clearly haven't been here in at least 10 years.

WHICH makes the point of my original comments above even more important – as others on here have said, the Dems snubbing michigan means they are not paying attention to what's going on here. Our voices aren't being heard and our very real economic crisis is not being considered. I have to give it to Romney & McCain, who have been on the radio here all day today – they are talking about very specific needs for Michigan and the industries that are here. I disagree with them so much, but at least they are adressing US. Whereas we are being left behind by the dems. It's a shame – not on us, or on the candidates, but on this process.

I'll say it again: We NEED a National Primary Day, or at least something different.

This is not a negative story about Sen. Clinton. It's a story about the Michigan Democratic Party. The Michigan Democratic Party broke ranks with the national party and Sen. Edwards, Obama (and before dropping out Gov. Richardson) abided by the national party's wishes and withdrew their names from the ballot. If you are a supporter of Sen. Clinton, you may still vote for her. However, if you support another candidate, you may not write in that vote because under Michigan law, the candidate has to authorize a write-in campaign. It would not be devestating for Sen. Clinton to lose to uncommitted as Sen. Obama and Sen. Edward's totals combined have always been a greater share so it would be expected. However, not voting uncommitted if you support another candidate rewards Sen. Clinton for going against the national party's interests. Why she didn't remove her name from the ballot is perhaps a question she should be asked. I have to admit, rewarding her with all the state's delegates for breaking with the will of the national party does come across a bit self-serving.

Another landmark proof of Hillary's betraying the democratic party and the nation. That is why when we opposes the war, she goes with Bush. AND SHE DOES NOT FEEL SORRY FOR killing 3,928 soilders and wounding 36,000soilders in IRAQ.

Okay so it's a wrinkle but how is it unexpected? This has been in the works for ages.

"What they are really scared about is the women."

Nita, this is not an issue of sexism. I'm a man and would love nothing more than to be able to support a woman for President. I strongly believe that many women make fantastic leaders and could serve this country amazingly well. So to imply that, as a man, my lack of support for Hillary Clinton is because I'm afraid of women is, frankly, offensive. I am not opposed to women. I am opposed to Hillary Clinton.

Why is that? It's certainly not without consideration, as I was once a proud supporter of the former First Lady. However, after listening to her more closely over the months, I noticed that things weren't adding up. I just don't trust her, and I cannot support someone that I can't trust.

Now, concerning Michigan. I don't understand why certain states get this special privilege of voting first and I commend Michigan for standing up and making a powerful statement about this inequity. The DNC is being petty by punishing the voters of Michigan for this.

And finally, as far as I'm aware, the candidates all agreed that they would pull out of the race, Clinton included. Everybody but Clinton made good on their word. If this isn't backstabbing tactics, I'm not sure what is.

I won't tell anyone how they should vote, but if I lived in Michigan, I would vote uncommitted.

People get the facts... You want change and now that Michigan, Florida and a few other states have tried to make "change happen, you start speaking out the other side of you mouth. Those states simply made a stand to fix a system that is way out of date.

Obama and Edwards made their own fate by being "Status quo" and doing what they thought was politically correct at the time.

Get over it!!!

Wow great story. I live many states away and had no idea this was going on. Please give this some air time so others can be made aware. I have been a republican for 18 years (I am 36) and I have to admit Obama and Edwards are really looking good to me. In fact if either win the nomination I will jump party lines to vote.... unless they tag H Clinton for VP.

it would seem to me that Americans need to be careful about endorsements and oratory skills that may sway votes as has happened in the past while perfomance on the job will leave a lot to be desired.

Talking about Cliches in this campaign. I just listened to Hillary Clinton;s message to New Hamshire and i realised that "WE CAN" WAS USED CONSISTENTLY and suddenly in Barak Obama's speech conceeding victory to Hillary in New Hamshire and indeed now newly placed on his website is "YES WE CAN". who is the original owner of this?. lets did back to other candidates and give appropriate credit. "WHO REALLY CAN" FOR AMERICA AND THE WORLD?. THE WORLD IS WATCHING............

I HOPE YOU WIN!!!!!!!!

Since Michigan is cut out of the primary process, it makes sense that the delegates will not commit in advance.

This strategy is the only way they even get to ante up.

Clinton pulled a fast one and now the results are come home to haunt her as they should. Amanda, above, hit it on the head. Had not Granhold, Levin and the two Dingells pulled a calendar jumping stunt, Michigan would have had their say and I don't blame them for being angry. Just direct that anger at the appropriate parties above.

Uncommitted is a great way to make a statement and I hope Michigan will make this choice. Do not reward slight of hand and cheap tricks. We had far too many of them in our elections.

i love democracy

It's really comforting to know that our flawed system is even MORE messed up. Hillary is the only Democratic candidate on the ballot? Who came up with this gem of an idea, Bill? Forget having a legitimate Michigan vote. This will probably become this election's Hanging Chad. Just what we need; another voting debacle.

Obama is a joke.

President Hillary Clinton!!!!!!!!!! The only person who can undue the damage bush/cheney have done to our great country.

Go Hillary! Your smarter than the rest!

Scott, Royal Oak,

If all the kids in the pool are stupid enough to jump in and get wet and at the last minute someone decides not to jump in because its really not in the best interests of the group then that person can and will think for himself / herself and not be bullied into something that's not a good idea for the group. So when all the sheep are sloping around in the pool, she's dry and getting things done.
Touche! Old sport!

All i need to say is.

Obama 'n roll.

michigan supporters vote uncommited

If you love America and you are proud of being American, please vote “uncommitted” in Michigan. Don't vote for opportuniste candadate who are ready to do anything to get votes including crying in public. There are ways for bainy people to show emotion and that's not to cry. Leading America is so challenging that crying is not enough to get the needed leadership. We need a brainy contender and if you objectively take a look on all the candidates, you will find Obama is the most brainy and he deserves American's people support.

c.ilivuziman@hotmail.com

There should be a new law prohibiting a spouse of a former President from running for President of the U.S. Why? Because that former President would have access to service more than two terms! The Clintons are political SNAKES.

In response to Concerned Citizen Mesa, Arizona. I AM FROM Michigan. Our State has suffered the worst economic conditions in the nation. When the primary was
changed it was a move by Ms. Clinton and her Democratic supporters in Michigan which would leave her name the only one on the ballott. That my friend is campaign fixing and it has cost Michigan lots of dollars for small business' because there has been no candidate and others campaigning here. If their not campaigning here there not putting money here, where it is so badly needed. Shame on our democratic committee and Hillary. She will definetly NOT get my vote.

Gee, isn't everybody getting on the Hillary bashing bandwagon these days. Is this a new fad or something? Maybe people should actually read about the canidates rather than making rash decisions based on word of mouth and listening to the media, which is owned by conservative Republicans. Sorry, but I am proud that I'm not making decisions based on other peoples views, that I am swimming against the current and not just being negative because everybody else is.

The situation is Michigan is the fault of the state legislature, just as it is here in Florida where I live, and not that of the individual candidates.

This brand of "public encouragement" is the sort of divisive behavior which needs to be eliminated. It has divided the country and will divide the party.

Hilliary is the BEST and ONLY SMART choice.

HILLIARY 08'

She will be the only DEMOCRAT to get my vote. I will not vote if it is the other choices.

What I find amazing is that the National Democratic Party can dictate when the voters in Michigan can exercise their right to vote! I certainly hope the whole state thumbs their collective noses at the national party bosses and votes for anyone - even Republicans if necessary - rather than toe the party line. What's next for Democrats in Michigan and the nation ... are you going to be told who to vote for?

Excuse me DNC, but who in Michigan elected you to run their elections ?

This is unfortunately another power grab by unelected officials. Michigan has every right to hold their primary whenver they decide. That is democracy. Being ordered around by unelected officials is not.

Shame on the DNC (and the RNC) for trying to interfere in a democratic process.

The stranglehold the two parties have on elections is egregious, and is a disgrace to America. Kudos to Hillary for ignoring the strongarm tactics of self-interested unelected party apparatchiks.

Obama blows hot air. Change sounds great. But PLANS are what actually get done. Change is not a plan.

It's like your New Year's Resolution. You say you'll change, but never make plans. That has always worked well, right?

Politics is not different. You just have to use your head. I know it sounds scary, but try thinking for yourself. We shouldn’t have to set up a tax supported government program to help you Dems think. Although, it might not be a bad idea………….

It is unacceptable for the State of Michigan not to have their votes counted, and I am very distressed at both Parties for shunting a state for wanting to count their votes when they want. I am also upset at my state for basically being last in the voting by the time we get to vote the nominee will already be selected. I am glad Michigan took steps to make their votes count.

FormerObamaGirl wrote "Oh, and can someone please tell me exactly what Obama's plan for "change" is? I don't think anyone has ever asked him that. And he has certainly never offered it."

I suppose it requires you to be able to read and listen effectively which is why you don't know what the plan is. Do you need to be spoon fed information? Try going to Obama's website for a starter. Then you can spend a little time studying Obama's legislative record, reading some of his speeches and if all else fails, have someone read this material to you.

Give me a break. FormerObamaGirl....more like NeverwasanObamagirlbutreallyaHillarysupporter.

John Edwards is just mad because his siding with Obama at last Saturday nights debate backfired on him. He thought that if he sided with Obama he would help put Hillary out of the race. Well, it almost put him out of the race.

Try again John Edwards. Your are driving voters to vote for Hillary. Thanks for helping Hillary.

I strongly agree with the messages from those telling the media to get out of this race and keep your biased opinions off the air and cyber space. I am tired of hearing all of you talking like you know what is going to happen and how. Since when is it your job as newspeople to predict and dictate politics in America.?

That Senator Obama and Mr. Edwards have allowed themselves to be schnookered by Senator Clinton in Michigan speaks volumes to their capability (or lack thereof) to occupy the Oval Office. As they sit on their thumbs, you can bet Senator Clinton's folks are working Michigan overtime.

The Democratic Party needs to put all of its resources and energy behind Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. She has been tested and has the driving passion to be a great President. Its about time America elects a women President of the United States. I truly believe she has the capacity to take on the Republican establishment and get some wonderful things done. So lets do this now. Lets show the world that we truly stand behind our thirst for change. By changing the face of the Presidency with a smart, energetic, passionate, hard working, and devoted leader. Let's nominate Senator Rodham Clinton now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The GOPERS are so concerned about the DEM party and candidates. Perhaps they should worry about their own party, as like get a decent candidate. And for all the news media that doesnt like Hillary, keep on bashing her so she rises in the polls and wins state elections. You blew the N.H polls by your idiotic behavior, now maybe you can screw up the remaining elections and caususes as well.

Byrd

"Do people not think it is disturbing that if Hillary were elected two families (the Bushs' and Clintons') would have controlled the whitehouse from 1988 until at least 2012? Has this ever happened in a modern western democracy?

Yes, actually, in America. The Roosevelts controlled the White House from 1933-1945. Before that, they also controlled the White House from 1901-1909.

I honestly don't find it any more disturbing that coming from a political family likely gives you political talent and experience. I am, however, disturbed that this country voted George W. Bush into office twice.

Seems to me the DNC should have made it clear what they expect of the candidates. If they wanted nobody to run and no names on the ballot, they should have made that clear. Now, Democrats in Michigan face two possibilities: 1) their candidate isn't on the ballot and they can't vote for him; or 2) their candidate is on the ballot, and even if they vote for her, the vote won't mean anything as the delegate may not be seated.

Its too bad a solution can't be reached where the primary gets rescheduled, all the candidates still in the race get their name on the ballot, and then everyone can have their vote count whehter it is for Edwards, Clinton, or Obama.

Didnt they get VOTED in though. Maybe we as voters are fundementally wrong. They won the elections didn't they. I recall that they counted the votes even though they seem to screw it up the last two elections. This is a democracy and the person with the most votes win. ( well I guess the electoral votes IE Gore over Bush). We had one person lead us for 4 election cycles. That was FDR. THen the powers that be said no more only two terms. I do believe Reagan would have went more than two even though he would have only remembered his first two. If the kennedy's would have lived they would have stayed in the white house for many years. Whats refreshing about the CLintons is that they are not billionaires. Bill started out in Arkansas and didn't have daddy's money and support to help him. Bloomburg LOOMS on the horizon they say only because he has billions of dollars. If he was an average person in a small state he wouldn't even be considered. Its called democracy James and what should we do. You cannot run if you had a family member in the white house. How about the senate and House. People stay in one seat for 30 years. Is that fair. Yes because they are voted in. I think we should have term limits in both the senate and house. But it is what it is.

republicans are laughing

In the current state that MI is in it really sucks that we don't get to meet the candidates and listen to them speak. I was invited to an Oboma gatherting later today but why would I go if he isn't going to be there? So I can listen to people to tell me to vote uncommited ? seems like a waste, I feel like we have been screwed. I hope the DNC realizes that come Nov they may not get the support they normally do from our great state. Good luck to them getting our Electorial Votes.

Dear FormerObamaGirl,
If you contact any local or national Obama headquarters, someone there will be glad to help explain Sen. Obama's plans, since you have obviously missed out on them.

Enough whinning about the media. If the media reported nothing you would be saying "oh, I didn't know where they stood on this issue or that. Nobody told me."
Separate the facts from fluff and fiction and decide.
Go Obama!!

THIS ISN'T RIGHT. Michigan has the right to vote as everyone else does. They shouldn't be penalized. I don't care if they moved up the date. If anyone hasn't noticed the state is falling apart by having one of the highest unemployment and foreclosures # in the nation.
Their residences deserve a voice like every other American to vote for the candidate they choose ... NOT this "uncommitted" crap. I think it's wrong that candidates would take their name of the ballet and rob the Michigan people of the right to choose who they want!

Actually, it's NOT okay to say "women stick together!"

It sets back feminism decades to the days when women were still burning bras and going Amazonian.

We live, officially, in a society of equals. A person's credentials, their stance on the issues, and their ability to lead, to unite, and to inspire, are far more important than their gender or their race. Hillary's got the creds, but she lacks the leadership mantle. She can't borrow that from Bill no matter how much he campaigns for her. Only Obama can stand up for all of America, not just the rich white dynastic aristocracy to which the Clintons so firmly belong.

Saying WOMEN FOR HILLARY '08

is just as bad as me saying

AMERICANS OF VOLGA GERMAN DESCENT FOR OBAMA '08

See? Calling out one group based on genetics is just silly.

"Every vote should count............"

Unless you live in Michigan

Senator Clinton's name is still on the Michigan ballot because her staff ordered her removal after the deadline. The Edwards and Obama camps removed their names just a few days earlier.

Senator Clinton did not make the decision to stay on the ballot. Anyone that says that she is just trying to grab delegates is relying on revisionist history.

Do people not think it is disturbing that if Hillary were elected two families (the Bushs' and Clintons') would have controlled the whitehouse from 1988 until at least 2012? Has this ever happened in a modern western democracy? Seems to show something is fundementally wrong with the political process.

First of all, the Democratic party does not ask anyone to withdraw their names. MI is penalized, fine. The fact is, she would have the most votes there than any of the others, everyone knows that. She isn't doing anything underhanded because she has a right to stay on the ballot. Why are Obama supporters so vicious? Your insulting manner is offensive and is part of the reason undecided people do not find him appealing as a candidate. You can't bully your way into people's thinking.

To whomever,
It does seem that Edwards may be the only remaining choice for us to consider. Obama is either a preacher or a cheerleader and Clinton is playing the same game in this Carnival of events. We need to hear what each candidate will do for us. I change my hair color and I change my nail polish but that is not the change I want from my President

Hills been quiet for the past few days....That only means big things are about to come. Let Obama have his day with another losing flip-flopper and wait for the big Hill news.

Hillary '08 – Because change is more than just a word and a speech.

Former Obama Girl

Please visit Obama's website, or try actually watching a debate if you care to know his plan for change.

Broom Hillary is flying to her next target huh? Well... we'll see about that. Watch how Americans will stand up and VOICE their outrage.

Hmmm....Change is what seems to be in the air. Michigan wanted change but the national parties want the status quo. It looks like the old guard is getting battered by the forces that are stirring to throw the old unworkable ways out... It's going to be a mighty battle and I hope "change" wins.

It's interesting how even the "neutral" media is mucking about in the process. It seems reporting the new is taking a back seat to making the news.

Finally, it would be so refreshing to see the political parties working for the citizens instead of their own interest.

Everyone in Michigan PLEASE vote uncommited.

Why would you want to elect these tired old politicians? We need someone young and full of life. Someone who can unite this country, empower the people. Why elect old school politicians who have old school ideas? That has been the pattern of our past elections and it doesn't work for us. Youth of America ask yourself this question.....Do your grandparents understand the issues of today's society? Do they understand the issues the young and middle age population face? The answer is no, they do not. They think in terms of how things were handled 40, 50 years ago when they were young. Most of these candidates are old enough to be our grandparents, how can they possibly relate to us as a young society today? They don't know what its like to be us, just like we don't know what its like to have lived when they were young. Times have changed, and its time for politics to change. VOTE for Barack Obama!!!

Clinton is playing by the rules... That she hear the people everywhere. She has no control over when the Primary is to be held. Pulling out is there own fault and there doing so is the reason your voices are not going to be heard. If they were serious about their stances by pulling out, then why haven't they pulled out of other states faced with the same sanctions such as Florida.

Ryan, New York

Thank you, but I know why the others took their names off the ballot. They could have opted not to. In fact, Florida did the same thing and is similarly being penalized, and the Democrats similarly agreed not to campaign there. But none of them has taken their name off the ballot. So those who criticize Hillary leaving name on the ballot in Michigan should for the same reason criticize Edwards and Obama for leaving theirs on in Florida along with Hillary.

And yes. Some positive coverage for Hillary would be a welcome change from the constant unwarranted, biased bashing she's been getting.

BS! For the past 4 years, the media has been promoting "Hillary for President."

Obama/Edwards 08!!!

YES WE CAN!!

Hillary said taking her name off the ballot is not necessary because the DNC said her votes won't count anyway.
She said it was irrelevant – she was right. Waste of time and no perceivable benefit.
It's not her fault that Michigan and Florida moved their Primaries.

The States should be sued and fined by the DNC and RNC for screwing the with Democratic process of picking our President. They are the bad guys in this not Hillary.

She just had the forsight to capitalize off their stupid choices.
She is one step ahead of them. She's the kind of person we need in the White House, not someone who is too timid to thumb their noses at outdated party rules or states who want to subvert the voting process.

Good Job Hillary, You'll take Michigan by storm.

Mark Brewer behavior could be interpreted to be clearly supporting Edwards...he arranged to have Edwards speak at the party's Jeff-jack dinner, and some believe he purposely screwed things up in Michigan to make sure Edwards would win the caucus but got got caught up in the race for the earliest primary and then screwed that up.

I believe he secretly wants Clinton to get 60 or more percent so he can plead for reinstatement of Michigan's delegates, especially since . the National Democratic Party stripped us of our delegates and even canceled all the lodging being held for our state's delegates

His incompetence dis-enfranchised hundreds of thousands of voters, and particulary
African American voters in Detroit, who would not have voted for Edwards. They would have voted for Obama.

Change needs to occur at the top of the Michigan democratic party as well!

Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney are better than any used car salesman I have ever met. Neither one of these two care anything about the people of this country. Romney comes off as arrogant and pompous, trying to out spend and buy everyone's vote. If I have to hear Hillary play the poor me card again I am going to loose it. The last thing we need is a president who is more, Dr. Phil or Oprah, than a leader and a president. There is no CRYING in running for President. I doubt your poor me card is going to go over well with the likes of Putin and other world leaders. A vote for Hillary is a vote for change in a terrible direction. We need a uniter in the White House come Nov and Hillary and Romney are just telling you what you want to here. Neither one can unite this nation for the better. Obama, Huckabee or McCain are better options for this country. I am a registered Independent and I am doing my homework. My suggestion to everyone else is please do yours. A vote for Hillary or Mitt is a vote for the status quo.

This is no one's fault, so stop blaming the media. Stop blaming CNN, and if I hear something bad about Wolf B it's on!

I like Hillary , and I am not blaming her for this, but the only answer is for Hillary to pull her name off of the ballot.

Good job Hillary, breaking the rules is your kind of "change" I see. Glad to know you will uphold only the rules you feel apply to you if you win.

We need real change, this sounds like typical political BS. Mrs. Rodham-Clinton, you are not above the law or the rules. Do the honorable thing instead of crying.

You mean besides those unsightly crinkles around her mouth, eyes, and neck?

The wrinkle is–most DEM's aren't too satisfied with either Hillary or Obama.

The wrinkle is–John Edwards (whose platform of change Hillary and Obama have attempted to hijack!! He is the only true "reformist" candiate in the line-up. Most of America knows it (his poll standings re: the best GOP candidate), and it's clear both the DEM and GOP candidates are attempting to steal his agenda after observing his "nation-wide" and "party-wide" popolarity.

Frankly–the only candidate who has flip-flopped on the issue of American labor (particularly hourly workers)unemployment, the War in Iraq, and the War on Terror (which should be a law enforcement issue–not a national defense issue)–is John Edwards.

Like Coca-Cola, John Edwards is the real thing. Not a puffed up, pomped up, made up–poll junky!!

New Hampshire broke the DNC's rules, as well. Did they get penalized? I dont think so. I wonder why?

You Obama supporters, supporters of "Change," are whining about Michigan and Hillary staying the course. What hypocrites!!! Michigan and several other states took a stand for change. Knowing how screwed up the system is, took a stance and steps to "MAKE CHANGE" and now you whine about those states that took a stand... Give me a break!

Michigan,

I am sorry that the organizers decided to move the primary without consulting the people it would affect. Please, even though I know it is a hassle for what seem like diminished returns, if you do not back Clinton vote Uncommitted. That will send a significant message about the shape of the race, and you will have an influence on what comes after. Thank you.

Hmmm January 10, 2008 12:51 pm ET

I don't know all the details about this story, and the article above does not supply all the information… But it serves Edwards and Obama right. If they were dumb enough to pull their names off the slate–they deserve to lose those votes. Idiots.

Hmmm, do you have a name? if you don't know the details about the story, why make a dumb comment? It serves you wrong.

I love how it's okay to say "women, let's stick together..." but if a guy were to say that, it would be sexest. "Men let's stick together and not vote for HIllary" – boy that would sure go over well wouldn't it.

Question: Of the Hillary voting caucus and primary election participants, how many are fond of and pleased with Bill Clinton's presidency? Quote: "I'm looking you in the eye, I have not had......." Wow, now that's honesty, character, and trust!. Are Hillary supporters suffering from Alzheimer's? But Bill is not on the ballot, right? Wrong!

The greatest gift the Democrats could deliver to the Republicans would be a Clinton candidacy. A Clinton presidency would also cause the greatest damage to the ability and desire of the people and our congress to compromise and build a consensus to solve our problems.

An independent voter.

it is pretty evident that the media don't like the clintons just like the republican's unrelentless pounding of the clintons. get over it and get use to it y'all, Hillary is the next president of this great nation.

Dont worry about the headlines – don't worry about the endoresements. What they are really scared about is the women. And, yes we hear some women saying they would never vote for clinton. Those are few and far between.

"A woman is a woman regardless of color." Clinton doesn't have our vote because of her gender. It doesn't hurt. She has our support because she can lead.

This country is such a sexist place. The men and probably some pathetic women who write about her weight, her hair, her smile and her pantsuits are just a bunch of low-self esteem losers.

Say what you want – Clinton is the true leader of the pack.

1. LOL it is wonderful to see the Dems create and eat their own dead.

2. Who could or wouls vot for Billery Clinton any way. All the unresolved criminal activity, ethics grey area behavior and she blew her universal health coverage plan under Bill's folly.

Obama band parade has been going on for 2 days. Enough is enough. I will never vote for him. Too many media outlets pushing him on us. If he wanted votes from Michigan he should of left his name on ballot.

Whatever happens... its good to see dems get a back bone. fight till you can't fight anymore. No matter who you support... the opposition is not getting a free/easy win.

Please dems no matter who gets the nod.... KEEP VOTING. we got disillusioned twice and did vote in the main election... we got stuck with and screwed by Bush. Even if you hate Obama/Clinton/Edwards. Each would do better and represent Demcratic ideals better than ANY republican.

This is a deeply annoying story if you still think our country should be a democracy.
If we are in fact a democracy then every state should be able to set its election dates without fear of petty reprisals by any political party. All these states changed their dates in response to the lack of attention by candidates of both parties. Michigan, in point of fact, is in the midst of recession & being snubbed by the Democrats may sway the vote in November for a state that has been consistently loyal to that party. Meanwhile, the Republican party has blindly voted for every 'free trade' policy the last two presidents put before them, especially those of the current idiot in chief. Perhaps every Michigan voter of any party should vote to become a new province in Iraq. That might actually qualify them for rebuilding money.

Good Choice Kerry

Kerry was right in 2004, admit it. Bush message of fear ruled many Dem votes. Dems are united for Change.

Experience–issue: Note Quote from President Bill Clinton concerning experience

Where was Bill's experience in 1992,

If Hillary was that experienced, why did she vote yes for a war? Her experience as first lady should have told her no.

“ Of course late 2006, she was quoted as saying President Bush was very charismatic” I guess that won her vote both times.

Hillary's politics is close to Bush's. We would have more of the same polarizing administrative policies.

She has blamed everything on republicans. Now her own Dem., Obama is in her cross hairs

Dems Loyalty will possibly be split this year and GOP will win again.

During her time at the W.H. Hillary talked about GOP and them out to get her and Bill. Even with all the scandal after scandal, she showed little emotion, as long as the blame others game was played.

If that is what our country needs. Bush approval would be higher.

Bill and Obama have an ability to connect with people of all backgrounds. This is reflective of their upbringing. Hillary has had a problem making that connection, even as U.S. Senator.

All the Democrats could do well to lead us in the right direction. However, Obama offers the greatest flexibility to work with both parties on new ideas. Hillary knew the war in Iraq was not worth the cost. However, in 2007, she turns around and gives Bush another authorization to fight Iran.

With experience, we have change. Where was the change here?

A president -- The Success of a president is tied to his administration. Bill had great support for furthering his agenda. Many things they failed at in his first administration. Second admin. he hired knew people who thought outside the box.

One person cannot know it all – that's with any good administration!

What Bill said about experience in 1992, is perfectly important today concerning Obama augment for change

Quote: Bill Clinton responded to Bush's claim “that experience means everything:”
Bill Clinton once said "the same old experience is not relevant"

The same discussion is going on today. We need Change Bill Brought then and Obama will bring it now.

Sometime you have to change the dice, when fixed to roll a certain way all the time.

Angela, you call that "foresight"? I call it the sneakiest move ever. She stated that she would refuse to campaign in Michigan due to the rule violation and gave the impression she'd leave her name off the ballot as well. Then, when everyone else pulled theirs off, she left hers on.

It's like kids at a swimming pool: they all agree to jump in on the count of three, but the sneaky kid stays dry and watches the others plunge in. Nobody likes that kid, just like nobody likes Hillary. The end.

Today alone there have been 10 super headlines for Obama, and the ONLY article written on hillary clinton is a SUPER NEGATIVE.

There is NO WAY that is impartial journalism.

This is really getting ridiculous. We have GOT to change the nominating system. The States have got to give up their infantile desires to be first all the time. How about regional primaries with each region takes its turn being the first each Presidential election. I understand that voting is a state preogative but for the good of the country, something s have got to change.

Believe me, the fact that Senator Carl Levin backing this is a hugh endorsement for Obama, wether he has officially endorsed him or not! Talk about the establishment not wanting another Clinton in the White House! WOW!!!

How can Michigan Dems tolerate such mistreatments?

The DNC set their rules when Hillary was considered the only true candidate for the 2008 election. They also stripped Florida and Wyoming of the delegates. The Clinton machine thought that Hillary would be the winner of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina. All of this occurred before anyone even new who Barack Obama was. Hillary took her name off the Florida ballot just as the rest of the Democrats, but the "machine" realized that although she would not be able to campaign in Michigan, that if her name was on the ticket, they could probably persuade the DNC to back down from their rules and then she would get all of the delegates from Michigan. (Another dirty politics of the Clinton machine. All of the other candidates removed their name out of respect for the rules.) The Republicans also have such rules, but those candidates can campaign and will win 1/2 of the delegates.

Edwards and Obama supporters must get out the message on My Space, etc and get out the vote in Michigan to vote "Uncommitted"

Note once again that CNN and the establishment didn't let this slip out until it is probably too late for the Michigan voters to register to vote.

My prediction is that the DNC and RNC will relent and let Michigan and Florida's delegates back into the convention now that New Hampshire and Iowa adjusted their Caucus / Primarie's to go first.
The reasoning for the punishment no longer exists so they'll have to relent or the they will risk alienating a huge number of voters.
With such a critical election looming for both sides, I can't believe they would be stupid enough to hold out and punish them anyway.
On the other hand there's no shortage of stupidity in politics.
But I'm glad Hillary's still on the ballot. That shows foresight that the other candidates apparently don't have.
And you thought she was weak.

If you want delegates, your name should be on the ballot. This is ridiculous.

I am a citizen of Michigan and I am completely upset by the way that our Primary has been ruined by our legislators. I sent several letters to my representatives throughout this process begging for a change. Michigan voters are victims in this whole scenario! It angers me greatly that I will not be able to vote for my candidate, but I certainly don't blame him. I have to tell you how helpless it makes us feel in Michigan that we are basically written off by our mistake. How arrogant and disheartening it is that candidates (by choice or not) just skip over visiting/campaigning in states. We are supposed to be electing a President of the WHOLE UNITED STATES, right?
Hillary is on our ballot and isn't even bothering to come here.
I want as many Uncommitted votes to taint her "win" as possible.
Vote UNCOMMITTED

I'm sure the people in Detroit have no problem with this, but if you are middle class you need to wake up because President Obama is bringing an end to the middle class

From his official website:

"Create a Living Wage: Obama will raise the minimum wage and index it to inflation to make sure that full-time workers can earn a living wage that allows them to raise their families and pay for basic needs such as food, transportation, and housing. "

Pegging to the inflation rate will increase inflation for everyone else.

The Socialist goal of illiminating

Obama and Edwards CHOSE to leave their names off the ballot to show support for the DNC (and to win some national administrative support). They should not now be rewarded. They chose their side and turned their back on the people of Michigan.

Oh, and can someone please tell me exactly what Obama's plan for "change" is? I don't think anyone has ever asked him that. And he has certainly never offered it.

Anyone want to bet that "Detroiters for Uncommitted Voters" has Oprah appear at an event? Too bad America tends to vote for stye over substance.

Mary, there is an option. Have Hillary lose when the other option is "none of the above". It looks pretty bad to lose against no one. That is precisely what I have been advocating for some time to any and all who will listen.

To Mike from St. Paul, MN: I agree with you completely.

Another thing that ticks me off is I've seen copies of the ballot and it has a spot for "Write In" right on there. Yet, if you write in a candidate, they toss your ballot. Chances are that a lot of people will not realize that they have to vote "uncommitted", and a lot of Obama/Edwards "votes" will be lost.

This whole thing reeks. I become more annoyed with it every day.

Thanks to CNN for putting this story on your website, but some national attention on air would be nice too.

Here in Michigan there is so much confustion regarding Tuesday's primary and the media isn't doing their job to let people know the facts.

If someone writes in Obama or Edwards, their ballot will be invalid. Because of the penalization, none of the declared candidates can be written in. The ONLY way to cast a vote for Obama or Edwards is to vote UNCOMMITTED and hope that they can momentum in the rest of the country so that when the national Democratic Convention convenes, our delegates will vote at that time and cast their votes for the candidate who everyone else is supporting. Nice, huh? Of course that is IF the DNC allows Michigan to even have a vote, which they've threatened. That means more than 10 Million people will NOT be represented – that's roughly 10x the population of New Hampshire.

The candidates were all told NOT to campaign here either – which means that the people running for the nomination ARE NOT hearing the plights, the needs, and the concerns of the people in this state. We are being done a grave disservice by the party.

And, a LOT (and I mean A LOT) of dems are switching over to the Republican primary here to vote for Ron Paul. Michigan has an open primary so you do not have to register as a dem or rep to vote in either.

Why should a party's leadership have the ability to disenfranchise ALL of the voters in an ENTIRE STATE! They are taking away our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to vote and to decide who we want to be the next president. It's horribly sophomoric and I can't believe such a thing is actually happening in this country.

This situation highlights the archaicness of our primary system. We need a national primary day so that there isn't this petty squabbling over what states get to go first and who gets penalized for trying to make an impact for their constituents.

Personally I'm voting UNCOMMITTED to send the statement that we can't be TOLD by the national Democratic party or the media WHO to vote for. I hope others in this state do the same. I hope CNN gives this issue and the need for a National Primary some attention on Tuesday. It needs more national debate.

"...But it serves Edwards and Obama right. If they were dumb enough to pull their names off the slate..."

Actually Edwards and Obama were following the lead of the democratic election committee rules that say no state can move their primary ahead of February 5th 2008. Because Michigan decided to move their primary to January 15th anyway the election committee has stripped the state of their democrat delegates. Edwards and Obama weren't being dumb. They were following the committee rules.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is the only democrat front runner who kept their name on the Michigan democrat primary ballot. In so doing she is disregarding the democrat election committee rules. It makes her appear very much like a scab who crosses their own union picket line.

It would seem that Hillary is banking on the assumption that the Michigan delegates will be allowed to vote at the democrat national convention even though the committee has said no. It is a very shifty play on the part of the Clinton campaign but one that doesn't surprise me in the least.

It makes me feel much better that the democrat leadership in Michigan sees the Clinton scheme for what it truly is and has urged voters to cast uncommitted ballots. It also firms up in my mind the fact that the Clinton campaign will stoop as low as they can go, even to the point of disregarding their own party election rules, to get elected.

Dear "Hmmm": Edwards and Obama were not "dumb enough to pull their names off the slate", they made the choice of sticking to the party's rules, which they should have!

As a Michigander, I am so angry about our legislature's ELEVENTH HOUR decision to move our primary like this. It was completely uncalled for. I understand that it's a little weird that IA and NH get way too much say in the nomination process, but this is NOT how you go about changing things.

I'm also angry at Hillary. She agreed not to campaign in MI, as did the other candidates, and gave the impression that she'd be pulling her name off of the ballot. Then, in a typical shady Clinton move, she leaves her name on the ballot while everyone else pulls off. And she wonders why people call her devious and calculating.

I am a university student in Michigan and I just want people on here to know that the decision to move the primary to the 15th was NOT a decision made BY the people; it was made my politicians who should have known better. I am a solid democratic supporter who nearly always stands behind my governor and democratic house, but I am simply ashamed of them for doing this and you better believe I have let them know it!

I am outraged at losing my chance to have basically any say in this election. I am an Edwards supporter, but I will not be voting in the primary, out of protest. From the point of view of someone who is being spoon-fed the 'vote uncommitted' message, I can tell you it does not mean one iota of anything... I will not be handing my vote to someone who MIGHT be seated at the convention and who COULD potentially hand the election to someone I do not care for (aka, I vote uncommitted intending for Edwards and then the delegate votes for Obama).

One more interesting thing to note is that this a TAXPAYER FUNDED (to the tune of $10,000,000) DATA DRIVE; when the voter chooses which ballet they want, it is recorded and their information is given to the party leaders... of course, it is NOT to be used to political purposes (wink, wink).

Obviously my feelings are strong on the issue and I hope people realize this is far more complicated than CNN is portraying it to be. There should be outrage that our rights as citizens can be trampled on like this. I am ashamed of my political leaders and of those candidates who pulled their names off the ballet. Come next November, I hope my local leaders (one of which DID vote for this) realize this will be a factor on my decision at the polls.

Well everyone needs to understand that there was not STATE VOTE to change the date. The people did not choose this. We are now stuck in the middle of it all, and left out.
I am a true Democrat and I am having a very hard time with voting. I have already made up my mind, but there is one very large problem. HE is not on the ballet. I could not wait to vote, but now I wish our state was for sale.

And just why didn't Clinton follow the the DNC rulings?

I totally disagree with that mcpain guy.

I go to Huckabee's Church.
so what if we get the ghost sometimes.
It don't hurt no one.

I'd rather have a president with the ghost
then a bussniess guy.

Only God gives us the right to make war
all over the planet in his name.

don't forget it neither freek.

jerk

If you write in Obama or Edwards, per the state law, that spoils your ballet. You must vote "uncommitted."

This whole thing was manufactured by the establishment Hillary supporters in Lansing. Everyone who has paid attention to this, knows it.

All of the other candidates took their names off the Michigan ballot to support the DNC, except for Mrs. Clinton. What does that say about her?

Do you favor Anyone But Clinton? It's as easy as ABC! Vote UNCOMMITTED in Michigan!

Hey- or Howdy as we say here-

I totally disagree with the first poster from Arkansas. She probably goes to Huckabee's church. Her post was a bit non-secular.

I was very proud of the Clinton's handling of Arkansas State Government.
He would have been one of our best Presidents if the publicans hadn't been so bent on destroying him. Bill didn't shut down the government.
It was the republican congress.

The Clinton's are good people who care about others.
Hillary would make a great President. If she can hold it together during weeniegate- Just think what she would do to Iran.

And Bill sure would be a fetching first lady.

Women- if you stand together- you can have a female chief executive.
Make the men raise babies !!!!!!

This is a very important election. It is already historical because a lady senator and an african-american senator ( who has a real chance to win). A clinton / obama ticket would be hard for the huckabee / colbert ticket to beat.

Biggdawg January 10, 2008 12:46 pm ET

Michigan, vote for Hillary!

God you Hillary supporters are an awfully whiny bunch. This isn't even a negative story. Would you like CNN to only report the positive stories about her, as they have were doing for the past year? Or how about hire more former Clinton staffers to offer political commentary, because half of the of them isn't enough?

Also, the reason everyone else isn't on the ballot is because Michigan subverted the national Democratic Party's directive not to schedule primaries so early. Hillary obviously doesn't care that they're not abiding by the rules because when have rules ever mattered when you can obtain an edge. While you complain of a prejudiced media, this is an instance where they should be railing her for even participating.

we need to rethink the whole primary system. For the last several elections, the canidate was decided by the time my vote came around giving me no voice in the representative. At least this year, my vote will count!!! Go Obama.

The reason Edwards and Obama took their names off the ballot was because the national Democratic party prohibitted candidates from campaigning in Michigan due to the unauthorized date of the primary. Since Obama and Edwards could not get their messages to the people, they figured Clinton would win on pure name recognition and try and claim it was a real victory. To avoid losing, they took their names off the ballot. In hindsight, they probably should have kept them on. With the high African American population, Obama might have won.

I support Obama.

AND CNN... and other news tv stations, please do not make this a mess again.. and no more drama ... stay out of politics,

CNN.. u r messing with our heads! FOOLS.. STOP IT.

This sounds as fair as it possibly can be, which isn't very fair at all. It's unfortunate that the Michigan people's voices probably aren't going to be heard correctly because of the greed of their state. Oh, my.

Neutral ground? Sadly the media has yet to set foot on it.

And believe me I am NO Hillary supporter. But I am a supporter of the American people and their right to make up their mind THEMSELVES. What the media has provided thus far in the election season is filtered, biased, and manipulative information and not the cold hard facts.

I challenge all Americans to vote based on which candidate best fits their belief systems and not based on the calculated views provided by the increasingly arrogant media outlets.

I find it amazing how everyone can "cry" and complain about the positive press coverage Obama is getting, all the while forgetting that Clinton got all the positive press coverage up until her loss in Iowa. Remember it was great when everyone was reporting she was the "inevitable" candidate and questioned why Obama even ran; even if you don't like or support Obama, you have to respect the hard work he has done to make a name for himself. I remember one event particularly well when Bill said the "boys are being hard on her" and by her own admission during the debate she said and I quote..."I know they are NOT attacking me because I am a woman, it's because I am winning". So what is it Hil??? Is it because you are a woman now??? Get over yourself. She acts like she is ENTITLED to be the next president and shouldn't have to work for it and how dare this 2 term junior Senator try and steal the position she is entitled to have! Well honey newsflash...its not yours to be given, but rather earned...

Barbara,

Having an affair is totaly different thaen starting a war FOR NO GOOD REASON.

WANTING TO START ANOTHER WAR FOR NO GOOD REASON.

The Clintons, although a little dodgy, are nothing compared to the corruption of SO MANY REPUBLICANS.

I like this development. I understand the DNC's decision as an effort to preserve the rights of early-voting states to maintain their historic importance. But the DNC's decision robs Michigan voters of their say.

If the "uncommitted" movement gains sufficient traction, Michigan voters' voices will be returned to them. That's the way it should be.

Hillary, you are not yet the president, but you are already causing so much division among people. Even African Americans are starting to have different negative views about you. How can you win against the republicans if minorities are diverting away from you? Rigging elections is like taking something away that does not belong to you. This can have negative effects in the long run.

Hilary is the her own undoings. She wants to defy even party rules to get delegates

Uncommitted 2008.

Please Michigan do us proud by un-voting for "her".

We need to see her cry again and this time it will be "real".

You sheep that are saying she didn't cry, what did her eyes "well up" with?

Or are we expected to re-define what tears are, like re-defining "is"?

Those stating a double standard here, If "she" were are man, just like Edmund Muskie, she would be toast.

The double standard is that men catch MORE heat for showing emotion.

What was the heart wrenching question again, "How do you do it and who does your hair".

This was simply the final ACT of her campaigns STATED GOAL to make her APPEAR softer and gentler.

I don't hate Democrats, except this one and as for strong women, I would take Liz Dole or Condi Rice over all the Republicans running.

I hope one of them picks one of them as VP.

It appears media has been taking side on reporting the election. Please keep your nuetrual ground. Remember how they reported about IRAQ and how it turned out? Let's not make more mistakes for the nation.

I don't know all the details about this story, and the article above does not supply all the information... But it serves Edwards and Obama right. If they were dumb enough to pull their names off the slate–they deserve to lose those votes. Idiots.

And as far as the Michigan as a state goes, you should have just listened to the Democratic national party. It's so lame this year that every state is fighting to be "first" in the calendar year. Michigan didn't listen, and just had to schedule early, and now may lose their voice. Serves them right too.

Kerry, Brewer and Levin have decided? Who cares? The Democratic Party has told voters what to do? Get over it.

Real Hope? Let's hope the voters in Michigan do what the voters in Iowa and New Hampshire have done and rebel against media control again. In my state we have a write in line. I hope this state does too. Please vote for who you want and ignore the manipulation of those in office (and the media). Truly end the status quo and REFUSE to let the POLITICIANS pick our President ever again. GO VOTERS GO!!!!!!!

I guess people REALLY do want change!!! I don't blame them!

I'm confused why michigan would move their primary date up KNOWING that there would be reprocautions for this? Both parties were penalized and lost delegates (DNC seemed to penalize more the the RNC), it just doesn't seem to make sense.

It almost seems like it will be a one sided race there since Republicans can openly campaign, but not Democrats. I wonder if republican voter turnout will be greater.

Losing to "uncommitted" would be devastating

And the CNN "make sure we report at least one negative story concerning Hillary per news cycle" campaign continues.

The others dropped their names from the ballots because they knew their chances of carrying the state were slim.

Michigan, vote for Hillary!

More Female bashing with in our own party.

John Edwards is the only clear alternative to the Republican morons.

He intends–convincingly–to represent all America.

Even the organizations/companies who sponsor lobbyist's must be happy about this–mabye they can save a little on on "off-account" political expenses in Washington for a few years.

Because truly–when they come knockin–with Edwards they 'll get the same reception and response as everybody else.

Wish I could say they same about ALL of the other candidates for President.

It's interesting when Clinton advocates the change bandwagon yet didn't pull her name as other candidates did in support of the party. Is this a demonstration of how she works together with others? I expect as the date draws nearer this will become a much bigger issue.