January 10, 2008
Posted: 11:20 AM ET
Clinton is the only major Democratic candidate on the ballot in Michigan.

Clinton is the only major Democratic candidate on the ballot in Michigan.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Democratic leaders in Michigan are urging supporters of John Edwards and Barack Obama, who are not on the ballot in the state, to vote “uncommitted” in the January 15 primary – a move that could create an unexpected headache for Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Clinton is the only major presidential candidate who did not pull her name from the Michigan ballot after the national party penalized the state for scheduling the vote in mid-January, rather than later in the cycle.

The national party voted to strip Michigan of delegates as a penalty, but party leaders in the electoral-vote rich state have expressed confidence that they will be seated at the convention.

None of the candidates, including Clinton, will be campaigning here, and none have authorized write-in campaigns – which means that, under state law, their supporters cannot cast write-in votes for any of them.

But if at least 15 percent of the voters in a congressional district opt for the “uncommitted” option rather than voting for Clinton, delegates not bound to any candidate could attend the national convention – a development that could allow Edwards or Obama supporters to play a role in candidate selection there.

In this cycle, more than in recent campaigns, the delegate count may prove important. Narrow losses – which still add to a candidate’s delegate total – could keep more than one presidential hopeful in contention. “For the first time since 1988, this is a delegate race,” Clinton aide Howard Wolfson told reporters Wednesday.

A new group, Detroiters for Uncommitted Voters, is launching a grassroots campaign to promote the “uncommitted” option. The Detroit News reported Thursday that Democratic Rep. John Conyers and his wife, Detroit City Councilwoman Monica Conyers, said they will launch ads calling for "uncommitted" votes if there is no other way to register support for Barack Obama.

The option is also being endorsed by Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, and the state’s Democratic Party Chair Mark Brewer as a way for Democrats who do not support Clinton to participate in the vote.

Neither man has endorsed a presidential candidate.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Michigan


kiki   January 17th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

i need help

Barbara   January 16th, 2008 5:00 am ET

I am an independent. If Obama or Edwards want to get my vote, they will have to explain to my satisfaction why they pulled their names off the ballot in the Michigan primary. How can I expect them to "change" anything in Washington when their actions show that will do whatever the party orders them to do.

denise   January 15th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Lets see what happens in the Jeb Bush state…he moved his primary date up also …it was moved up a few weeks ago. All of this seems pretty Republican to me.

laden   January 15th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

hillery clinton and bill clinton are very pleasant,attractive people,highly intelligent-can voice/ comment/ answer questions/ conversations unscriped. all traits i have witnessed the scripted staff on cnn. minus a few,,,lack. is this why the snarling, vicious attacks on hillery. o'reilly- rush limbaugh and sone republicans have character enough to question these vicious attacks on her laughter, emotions, cleavage, clothing, and likeability. where are your comments , questions display on cnn. film,network of barac obama. his muslim background,, racial hatred groups,, does not pledge allegiance to the the flag of the u.s.a.,, shown on your network. democratic candidates, hand over heart reciting the pledge. barack oboama last in line stands rigid arm, hands at side, mouth closed, hand off bible when sworn into state and u.s. senate,,,.. why, ask him why. what bible does he prefer.. who does he plege his allegiance to . why has he been able to propell over highly experienced cadidates.open the door to barack obama to what he does not want to hear ,,, not what you and he and your manager want to hear.

Steve   January 14th, 2008 10:52 am ET

This Article Specificaly left out the fact That Dennis Kucinich is on the Ballot there and IS Campaiging there …
The Media refuses to give Dennis any coverage .. wich is destroying our democracy … they have also basicly now left eddwards out of the race now ..I wouldnt be surprised if they exclude him from next debates .
we must stop Media control of our election process NOW if we are to ever return to some form of Democracy!!

Ginny CA   January 14th, 2008 9:20 am ET

To Jennifer in Mich, and Ben in Flint Mich: You both advise Former Obama Girl to go to either Obama's website or visit a local or national Obama headquarters where someone there will explain Sen. Obama's plans to her. Might I add another bit of advice here? I believe it would be wise for Sen. Obama to do the same: go to an Obama site and learn what his plans are. If he only knew what they were, perhaps he would be able to express them to voters instead of speaking in generalities and catch phrases. From the beginning Edwards and Clinton have been articulating what their goals are and the steps they will take to accomplish them. Now it's up to Obama to let us know that he has, at least, some idea about how he will achieve his goals.

Zain   January 13th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Those of us who choose not to support Hillary, are not necessarily anti-women. She is untrustworthy and simply not the best canidate. Just because you choose not to support Obama doesn't make you a bigot. I personally support Barack Obama. He has the right vision. He has gone to great lenghts to research his plans. He is intelligent, a good speaker, and just what our country needs right now. John Edwards is also a great canidate. Although I support Obama, I would not be upset to see Edwards in office. Best case senerio would be President Barack Obama and Vice President John Edwards. But, that's just one man's opinion.

Debbie from THE SHOW ME STATE   January 13th, 2008 12:08 am ET

I HAVE PUT SEVERAL COMMENTS ON HERE ON HOW THE MEDIA HAS CHANGED MY MIND ON WHOM I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR, BECAUSE OF THE RIDCULING THEY HAVE DONE TO A CERTAIN CANDIDATE TO WHOM I ADMIRE VERY MUCH, BECAUSE IN THIS DAY AND TIME DIVORCE IS THE ANSWER IT SEEMS, BUT THIS PERSON CHOSE TO KEEP THE MARRIAGE, FAMILY AND CAREER FOR WHAT EVER REASON ,IT STILL COULD NOT OF BEEN EASY. AS FOR THE BAD HAIR DAY WHO DOESN,T HAVE ONE AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS OR RUNNING A COUNTRY. I WILL LISTEN TO ALL OF THE CANDIDATES UNTIL ITS MY TURN TO VOTE AND PRAY FOR GOD TO HELP ME TO DECIDE, BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY I HEAR I TRULY THINK WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT SO COME ON GUYS LETS GIVE THEM A BREAK. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO REPORT THE PROS AND CONS BUT SOMETIMES YOU GET CARRIED AWAY. THANK YOU AND IF THIS DOESN,T GET PUT ON I AM GOING TO GET UPSET .REMEMBER I AM FROM THE SHOW ME STATE

Michael MacDonald   January 12th, 2008 2:49 am ET

I share the outrage of the Michigan Democrats who have written protesting the Democratic primay debacle. The people who created this fiasco, Governor Granholm, Chairman Mark Brewer and Senator Carl Levin are all supporters of Senator Clinton, whether they have formally endorsed her or not. The urging of the latter two to vote for an "uncommitted" slate of delegates is utterly disingenous. This is the same as choosing a perfect stranger at the precinct door toe exercise your right to vote however he or she chooses. Brewer and Levin want a small vote for "uncommitted" to give a patina of fairness to an election in which tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Democrats have been disfranchised. Were CNN and the other national media to publicize how this situation has arisen, who is chiefly responsible and the rage it has provoked among loyal democrats like myself, viewers and readers would grasp that this is a major political scandal. A cabal of Clintonites has stolen the primary in the nation's ninth-largest state. Their smarmy claims that the primary will make Michigan matter in the primary selection process are as disgusting as they are false. The leaders of the party have trampled on the most fundamenal right in American democracy. Senator Levin declares loudly that the delegates chosen in what will be a rigged Clinton victory will be seated at the Democratic convention in August ("not to worry, Clintonites" in other words) and he is probably right. The stench of this election will linger long afterwards and many like me who would have welcomed a Clinton victory in a full and fair primary will not be voting on Tuesday and, should she win the national party nomination, making the same choice in November. The Party will not allow us to cast votes for Edwards or Obama now–they have even passed a law invalidating the votes of anyone who dares to write in their names (how's that for a democratic rule?). They should not be permitted to get away with this, and the reporters covering this outrage should not present it as some sort of unavoidable snafu with (a familiar phrase in the scant reporting) "plenty of blame to go around." Michiganders know that party satraps could easily have avoided this fiasco; instead they deftly brought about precisely the result they intended.

sgifford   January 12th, 2008 1:26 am ET

To the posters saying that this "Vote Uncommitted" is a conspiracy against Hillary: It really isn't. It's just a way to vote for another candidate. Hillary shouldn't be denied the nomination because she's a woman, but choosing another candidate is not anti-woman or anti-feminist, it's just choosing a different candidate. And in Michigan, the only way to choose a different candidate is to vote Uncommitted or vote in the Republican primary.

To the posters saying "Blame the candidates, not the DNC" and/or "Vote for Hillary, she left her name on the ballot": The DNC forbade candidates from campaigning in Michigan and decided not to seat our delegates, so they really did play a pretty big role in this situation, and deserve a good part of the blame. And at the time Clinton decided not to take her name off the ballot, she said it was because it was unnecessary, since the delegates weren't being counted anyways. She hasn't opposed the decision to ignore our delegates (and hence our votes), and she hasn't campaigned in Michigan. So she's not blameless either.

The fact is that the entire Democratic Party is to blame, from the DNC to the Michigan Democratic party to the candidates to the Democrats in the state legislature that voted for this disastrous plan. Fellow Michigan Democrats, please let party leaders and your legislators know your thoughts! See my earlier post for a link to a site I have set up on the issue, which has links to contact the people responsible for this, and also an online petition to sign.

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 11th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

D, two words: Margaret Thatcher.

Hillary is the Maggie of the Democratic Party.

People have this ridiculous notion that female leaders would make the world an idyllic, tranquil place. Female leaders have been pro-war (not to mention corrupt) in the past and will continue to be in the future…just like male leaders.

Let's remember, Hillary helped put our nation into Iraq in the first place.

Annie   January 11th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

I like both Obama and Hillary. All the Dems are ok with me.

But…. what is the 2008 presidential race really about?

This race is not about terrorism, education, healthcare, the economy, the environment, religion, race or any of the other issues that we pretend to be interested in. It is about only one thing, and that is gender.

We were shocked and/or amused when those two hecklers disrupted a Hillary speech to shout at her "IRON MY SHIRTS!" (The guys who did this worked for a morning radio show and were doing it as a publicity stunt).

The truth is, many men and woman believe that is exactly what Hillary, and all other woman, should be doing. We just don't want to admit it to ourselves. It is politically incorrect.

No one, male or female, wants to be thought sexist. But Hillary scares everyone,
since she is doing something that no woman has done before.

We don't want to admit that we are sexist, so Hillary is attacked relentlessly by both men and women for her past behavior and supposed faults.

When I read each one of the attacks on Hillary, I ask myself
"If she were a man, would they be saying this?"

Most of the time the answer is no.

Hillary is trying to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling in the USA. It is no wonder she is being vilified.

Some history for those of you who are interested in learning facts. The rest of you go on to the next post…or just flame away….
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In the early and mid 1800's neither woman nor blacks are citizens of the USA nor are they allowed to vote.

The two groups work together to try to gain the rights of citizenship for both blacks and females.

After the civil war, BLACK MEN (only) are given the right of citizenship with the passage of the Fourteenth amendment in 1867-68. This amendment goes to great lengths defining citizenship.

It states that they must be "male". It is clear that woman are being excluded from having the legal and voting rights that they would have if they were allowed to be citizens. This is the first use of the word male in the Constitution.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
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In 1868, the fifteenth amendment passes Congress, giving the vote to black men only.

"Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by
The United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."

It is obvious those women are being deliberately excluded from voting. No political correctness here.
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At this point, black men have what they want, and woman of all races are left to fight on their own for universal suffrage. For the next 52 years, women who fight for the right to vote are arrested and jailed when they try to gain voting rights. In 1886, women are excluded from the dedication ceremonies for the Statue of Liberty.

In each election, brave woman attempt to cast votes, but they are arrested and the votes are discarded.

In the 1890's, suffragettes begin work in each state to gain voting rights. Colorado gives woman the vote, followed by Idaho, Washington State, California and Alaska, Oregon, Arizona and Kansas.

Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony die, having never cast a vote despite working for that right for over 50 years.

As woman get closer to having universal voting rights, physical and verbal attacks on suffragettes become increasingly violent. In 1913 they are attacked by mobs and hundreds of woman are injured. (Editorial comment. This is a typical response to woman who are gaining power.)

Woman are arrested, jailed and brutalized in an attempt to scare them away from their goal, which now appears to be within reach.

In 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment is ratified. “ The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

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"So what?" you say? "That is ancient history."

Not quite. Nothing has really changed in the last hundred years. Although women have been able to vote for 87 years, we have still not been represented in the highest or even the second highest office in America. Why is that?

We have still not had a black president or vice president. When a woman gets within reach of presidential power, the violence and attacks escalate in an attempt to humiliate, discourage and exclude her.

Although Obama has black blood, he is not being attacked in public or in print as Hillary is. Is there more fear of a woman being president then of a black person being a president? It appears so to me.

What demographic group has been most excluded from seeking the highest political office? Women are 50.7% of the US population, so why haven't we had a woman president?

Don't tell me a woman can't do the job. (So what is the reason???)

Blacks are 12.8% of the population.

I think the people who are best able to analyze this are BLACK WOMEN.
I want to know, are your going to vote your gender or your race?
If you HAD to choose between only those two factors, what would it be?
Which has the biggest impact on your life?

It is clear to me that in 2008, sexism is more hostile then racism.

Would you say what you are saying about Hillary if she were a man?

This campaign is about GENDER…and nothing else.

Robert, Lancing MI   January 11th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

Democrats of Wisconsin,become informed and take control of your future !

Go to http://www.fairtax.org and read up!

Our current income tax is dragging this country into the mud, and we have to make a positive change.

Goals of the FairTax
1. Eliminate all federal taxes including payroll, income, inheritance, gift, social security, medicare taxes.
2. Replace them with a National Sales tax which will fully fund all government programs at the current rate.
3. End the IRS.
4. Repeal the 16th amendment.

Advantages of the FairTax
Taxation becomes visible so everyone can see exactly what they are paying in tax. Make taxation fair, cause everyone would pay the same thing. Give incentive to excel to the American people and American business. Attract new business to this country. Make America Made products more competitive in the world market-place. And much more.

Learn about the FairTax, and then demand that your democratic leaders support it.

Thank you.

Anonymous   January 11th, 2008 10:55 am ET

Personally, I don't think it matters what the Clinton campaign does. They can't win, because people immediately have the attitude "not her", and do not listen.
I listened to a town hall meeting where she answered question after question, and now she honestly will get my vote. She clearly knows what she's talking about. People just immediately close their minds at the mention of her name. I was that way also until I listened to everyone, and after voting for George, because he was going to change everything and bipartiasnship was going to be. We have the worst mess I have ever seen. Now, I have decided I want experience in Washington. Edwards is to weak. Obama can speak, but he does need to be around politics alot longer. The media is ridiculous. I use to like CNN, when it was about news, now it reports, and analyzes everything to death. The Obama wave is a prime example.

CS, IL   January 11th, 2008 10:43 am ET

Ann,

I totally agree with you. People this is POLITICS! Politicians must play hard .. sorry. If you don't like that answer, please see the "We Are the World" - no real platform but I'm biracial so I have a better view on foireign policy" thought process of Obama.

Everyone is blaming Hillary for not taking her name off the list. I would not have either! What the hell! She wants to win. If Obama or Edwards truthfully thought they could win Michigan, they would not have. This is not about respecting the DNC, this is about giving the hell up and turning on Michigan!!

I don't know who I'm voting for, but I won't vote for Obama. He has handed me NOTHING in terms of concrete plans. I get that he has a lot of ideas of being Pesident .. but hell, so do I. Wanna make me President too?? I don't appreciate his bad impersonations of Martin Luther King speeches and I truly don't appreciate his growing arrogance, even in the face of a campaign that is really missing "the beef".

It's kind of sad that so many people don't even realize how misogynistic they sound in their responses. That so many don't want to see how biased the media is.

I would be outraged if I lived in Michigan. I really feel for you guys.

AnnAloha, PA   January 11th, 2008 9:47 am ET

Go Independents for Change!!!
Vote you hearts and you minds!!!
Looking at all you FOOLS that allowed the sexist media management and the anti-feminist females that reeled all of you in with the Jerry Springer effect…I sit hear totally amused and chuckled at the very thought that you fell for it Hook, Line and Sinker. Geez, could you all be more ignorant to this?
Call Senator Obama and Senator Edwards and tell them how stupid it was for them to for-go Michigan. Senator Clinton did'nt tell them not keep their names on the ballot. See how cockey they were, to believe by not participating(by their own choice), shows just how serious they really took this race.
I wish the media would pose that question to each of them, to get their response. Do you regret for-going Michigan?
Poor Michigan, I totally feel sorry for you, especially those of you that supported Senator Obama and Senator Edwards.
If I were you all, I would direct your anger at the 2 people that need to hear from you, Senators Obama and Edwards.
Stop whinning and hold them responsible and not the DNC or Senator Clinton and please try to move on after to hear from them.

Tommy, Orlando, FL   January 11th, 2008 9:44 am ET

The Press is BACK on track to Woman Bashing again…. How sad… They never learned their lessons.

hate ryan, new york   January 11th, 2008 9:03 am ET

Hay did u guys see the photo in the last debate in NH, Look at there, Obama, Edwards, Richardson standing together like …heee heee at least we r in a group and look at Hillary standing alone…. It seems that they love each other to attack Hillary? Yep u three guys if one of u win, another two will be Vice and Advisor to the president? Shame on u guys, u guys actually deon't think of how will u guys help or do for this country!!

Citizen   January 11th, 2008 8:55 am ET

Steve A,

You have it the other way - in fact, Republicans want Obama - a guy with no meat, muslim, a lot of hot air, and 136 PRESENT votes as a state senator and on and on…

They will have a fun day with him as democratic nominee. Go check some news letters on internet and you will get a picture.

Wake up America and don't be fooled again like you were in 2000 and 2004.

I am seriously considering changing party - I would rather be lableled as an _hole than an idiot.

S Jose   January 11th, 2008 8:54 am ET

some people may say Hillary is weak or tricky for her tear (she really didn't cry u blinds…) The media, people are pushing her to the edge and pressuring her so much but let me ask u guys did she fall down or bow out? She is still standing eventhough she lost in Iowa and she overcame lots of pressure as a first lady, a senator and now as a presidential candidate. Even if unluckly she lost to Obama, she still be standing gracefully. People blame on her that she did vote for war so let me ask u when ur fellow innocenent americans died bcoz of one stupid act how will u reply at that moment?
Let me ask u how ur belove obama would reply if he got a chance to vote for the war??? Do u think can he really really do"CHANGE THAT WE CAN BELIEVE" when he become the president of america. And how will he respond to his father and step father and his own previous religon if there will be another 9/11 attack happen again. Do u ever think that how it's so tough and difficult as a woman in politic but she is still fighting and keep going. it may be true that she made mistakes but does anybody never did mistake in their life??? How about obama? is he like a mistake free zone? just use ur brain my fellow american don't just dream or just blind. obama's speech may be inspirational like we watch in the movie but in reality things are more difficult than just talk.

BF Boca   January 11th, 2008 8:04 am ET

NH was biased by the media coverage that Hilary recieved for the tears shed. I can't recall any other tears in History that got so much attention. By the way Hillary was crying because she saw that she was losing and not because she cares about anything. What would happen if she became president and was encountered with a life threatening difficult decision, are we going to have a president who will break down and cry.

I also think she must articulate better all this exlperience that she talks about. Let her explain How the ideas were concieved, managed and completed by her and what the results were. I think we will probably see that she does not have the experience that she says. By the way being the presidents wife does not qualify as experience. Ask the Pilot of a 747 jetliner if his wife can fly the plane just because he sleeps with her. Don't think so.

West Palm Beach   January 11th, 2008 7:55 am ET

Michigan, welcome to the club. Love, Florida

West Palm Beach   January 11th, 2008 7:54 am ET

Michigan, welcome to the club. Need any extra voting machines?? Love, Florida

FloridaBoy   January 11th, 2008 7:03 am ET

Florida was similarly penalized by the DNC. Is Hillary planning the same thing here? What voting option is there for those of us in FL that do not wish to continue the "status quo"?

Mike   January 11th, 2008 6:58 am ET

While agree that this trend of states trying to gain attention by moving up their primaries is foolish, what gives the DNC the right to take away citizens' right to vote? I was wrong to think that throwing the constitution out the window was limited to the Bush administration. I echo "GO VOTERS!"

Omaha, NE

Rasta   January 11th, 2008 6:43 am ET

The bi-monarchy takes roots…

George H W Bush
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
Hillary Clinton
Jeb Bush
Chelsea Clinton

If you want to CHANGE this get fired up and be ready to go NOW.

Tess   January 11th, 2008 6:32 am ET

Hey, Clueless in Battle Creek:
You also missed the fact that Qwest is moving into Downtown Detroit. Brainy businesspeople know a good deal when they see one: reasonable retail rental prices, an educated workforce hungry for jobs, amazing geographic location and a cultural gem on top of all that.

Sure, it takes a little while longer for things to filter out your way but, do try to keep up on what's been happening lately (it would help if you turned off Fox every now and then and got some real news). If you get too bored clearing brush, look on the bright side, perhaps you'll have fun this summer at 'Taste of Battle Creek'…I hear there's a new cereal out this year!

Just let me know when you get hungry for some culture: I'll send you a postcard from the Ansel Adams exhibition at the DIA (you might want to get a frame for it at Wal-mart) or, maybe, if you open your eyes, you can see their cast of Rodin's 'The Thinker' as it travels to Grand Rapids this summer…on second thought, all that input might be too much for your 'system'.

Steve A   January 11th, 2008 4:42 am ET

The Republicans are running scared of Obama. As a former professor of Constitutional Law , he is precisely what our country needs now, after Bush, Cheney and Rove have done their very best to shred it.
The criminal Rove 's attacks on Obama can only give Obama A BOOST.

The Republicans have tooled up their campaign against Hillary, and are scared that she will not be the nominee.
GO OBAMA! "YES, WE CAN!"

Real Story   January 11th, 2008 4:22 am ET

Obama is for the People, The media, Elitists and those who have fallen victim to simple Bush/ she is a woman tactics, are for Hillary. It is time America got their act together and voted in a real individual . I'm so tired of bull politics , WE NEED A CHANGE AMERICA
Obama 08

Ann Aloha, PA   January 11th, 2008 4:20 am ET

Both Democrats and Republicans should join together to stop sexism that is apparent and alive in our country.

Uncommited   January 11th, 2008 4:12 am ET

Hillary Clinton is right up there with the radicals and Bush. I just want someone who isn't disconnected from the people. Obama seems to be the only candidate that doesn't separate himself from the general public. I hope everyone in that state votes uncommited instead of the next "Bush" Regime .

gorrime   January 11th, 2008 3:46 am ET

hillary —- politics of tears ???????

Cousin C   January 11th, 2008 1:50 am ET

The system (Government) is broke from top to bottom and it makes no difference who gets elected…this is the constant around the world. America will have learned nothing if it puts a Clinton back in office. It's time for a fight…Edwards will achieve this against big corporations…Clinton won't!

Obama will bring about a new sense of change…I just wish he and Edwards could be one person…it's a tough vote between these two only.

If your going to elect Clinton you might as well elect Bush again.

Sincerely
Your neighbor

D   January 11th, 2008 1:44 am ET

I cant believe these folks are actually telling people in Michigan to "NOT VOTE" or
vote " UNCOMMITED ", they should be COMMITTED for trying this stunt…
The people of MICHIGAN need to teach these MEN a lesson …… This is a prime example of how certain MEN want to control EVERYTHING, and it doesnt matter what party theyre in either… And the thought of a FEMALE PRESIDENT sends them all into the backrooms plotting ways to bring her down ….It is time America..
MEN have ruled the WORLD and U.S. politics long enough and made a huge mess of it all …Look at where our nation and the state of the WORLD is now, we need change and only a female president who offers everything Hillary does will be able to affect it and affect it for the GOOD …
If you notice, the MEN, all are after the same things and offering the exact same things and the way it has always been , it doesnt matter what PARTY theyre in, it is the same ole crap they have been doing since the beginning of time…
Theyre greedy, war mongering , nation dividing , and offer nothing but more pain and heartache ..
If Americans want real lasting change that will affect our country , AND the entire world, for DECADES to come and in more ways than just political , it is time for a FEMALE PRESIDENT …

Margarita, Los Angeles   January 11th, 2008 1:24 am ET

DO YOU THINK THAT OBAMA AND EDWARDS HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT GANGING UP ON HILLARY.. IT DID LOOK STAGED… THEY WERE SO CHUMMY CHUMMY. LIKE 2 LITTLE BULLYS ON THE PLAYGROUND…THEN DO YOU THINK OBAMA TOLD EDWARD… LOOK MAN I HAVE TALKED TO JOHN KERRY AND HE IS GOING TO ENDORSE ME.

I THINK OBAMA USED JOHN EDWARDS FOR HIS OWN ADVANCEMENT KNOWING THAT KERRY WAS GOING TO ENDORSE OBAMA…. WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT KIND OF INDIVIDUAL…. A POLITICIAN… A SNAKE OIL POLITICIAN.
DOESN'T OBUMMER CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. JUST AS HE IS STICKING IT TO HIS POLITICAL ALLY…

JOHN EDWARDS MUST BE ASKING “WHAT…NO VASELINE!!!!” …. YyES JOHNNY EDWARDS YOU TO CAN BE SHAFTED AS THE NEED ARISES

John Foster   January 11th, 2008 1:13 am ET

Democrats in Michigan should vote for Ron Paul and shame the other pro war Republicans!

agron--michigan   January 11th, 2008 1:06 am ET

Michigan vote for HILLARY–08

Hillary i love you BABE….YOU SO SMART…

AGRON MICHIGAN

marvin   January 11th, 2008 1:05 am ET

wow…LOTS OF REPUBLICANS in this blog. MICHIGAN will go DEMOCRATS this election.

US PRESIDENT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

Adam   January 11th, 2008 12:42 am ET

You know, this could have interesting implications on the GOP side. Since Obama and Edwards, the main candidates to draw independent voters, aren't on the ballot, a lot of independent voters are likely to choose the GOP election instead of the DFL one. That is a help for John McCain, and another blow to Romney.

Cathy   January 11th, 2008 12:14 am ET

Cnn: stop trying to tell us who we should be for in this election. Fire those who pick sides and dont just report events. Here's a new concept for you …no one cares what you think.

Ann Aloha, PA   January 11th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Nobody that supports Obama and Edwards will vote unncommitted. All the comments that support each of them will be in vain, so don't fall for this unofficial spin to put the Democratic Party in question or to make you look like a bunch of ignorant and selffish individuals. You will be looked upon as self centered cry babies that couldn't get the rattler back when it fell on the floor.
If you want to hold somebody responsible, you should call each candidate's headquarters and ask them why they didn't choose to enter in Michigan. They made the decision not to and they made a political mistake IMO. Knowing that this race is just that important, why would anyone want to for-go any state?
Beware all you Obama and Edwards supporters, you will taint this nomination by voting uncommitted and the bigger reason is the very reason that each of your candidates tries to encourage the rest of us Americans in the country to believe, that indeed your candidate is HONEST. Be CAREFUL when this type of rhetoric of hysteria stirring is introduced…It sets you up.
I am proud of the Democratic Party, I hope all Democarats unite and swallow the negative pride and Move On and Up.

kedf   January 11th, 2008 12:03 am ET

Why Obama and Edward did not take their name off Forida? Can you explain it to mee since you are all accusing Hillary for leaving her name on Mich.

Scott Gifford   January 10th, 2008 11:48 pm ET

Several of the posters above were, like me, Michigan voters who are extremely angry at the Democratic party for taking this action. Yes, Michigan's legislature probably shouldn't have violated DNC rules, but completely disenfranchising the entire state of Michigan is far to extreme.

I also saw several posters wondering what to do. I set up a Web site with some information and suggestions for making your voice heard on this issue. You can learn more at http://WhoStoleMiVote.org

Walt, Belton, TX   January 10th, 2008 11:37 pm ET

Actually, I'm getting a little confused. Florida's votes don't count, now Michigans' aren't going to reflect the Democratic party's preferences. Perhaps, just perhaps, maybe voting uncommitted is, like, voting for the "Team" of Hillary and Bill incognito-wise.

I sincerely hope not. My Grandkids deserve much better!

Laz   January 10th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Jose, are you confirming that the Clintons not only morally shamed America with unethical conduct but also 'looted' the white house furniture?

I am baffled as I thought it was just a media snap :(

Republican1657   January 10th, 2008 11:19 pm ET

Could it be democratic leader inter-party monkey business scheduling the vote in mid-January knowing that Michigan would be stripped of its delegates? "…but party leaders in the electoral-vote rich state have expressed confidence that they will be seated at the convention." This seems to have been planned for a reason…knowing that the uncommitted option is available and the Clinton egos are far too large to pull the Clinton name from the Michigan ballot.

Smooth move Michigan Democrats!

AS   January 10th, 2008 11:18 pm ET

You know…..

I'm trying to figure out why our electoral system seems to be getting more and more convoluted. How is anyone supposed to know what's going on when there are more loopholes than a Congressional Budget Bill???

"Hi, I'm a democrat, and I voted for noone. Yet"

Joelle, Milwaukee, WI   January 10th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

PRAYU: You REALLY sound INDEPENDENT!

How long have you been blogging for the NOBAMA CAMPAIGN?

Jake, Milwaukee, WI   January 10th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

Michigan whiners wanted CHANGE, and now you have it!

DEAL WITH IT!

Besides, GM "KNOWS how African-Americans will vote in DEEEETROIT! "

CNN has already called the MI primary for NObama!

Hey, it's a done deal! [IF you continue to shed tears, we'll have to call all of you HILLARY!]

IF you FEEL - We know you don't THINK - that it's unfair: TOUGH!

You cretins wanted CHANGE: YOU GOT IT!

JUST DEAL WITH IT!

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 10th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

You people are hilarious. Two weeks ago, every single comment on these pages accused CNN of being biased towards Hillary, or dismissed CNN as the "Clinton News Network." Suddenly Obama wins Iowa and picks up momentum and everyone here is accusing CNN of being biased towards Obama and too negative on Hillary. This is asinine. Hillary was BY AND LARGE considered the "inevitable" Democratic frontrunner for OVER A YEAR and was practically treated like royalty by every media source.

As for this particular story…not surprising. Hillary will do anything to get elected, even if it means bending the rules and going against the decisions of party officials.

Michael   January 10th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

I read all of this and all I can see from the majority of post is how bad Hillary is and how good the others are. So just because the others pulled there name they are following the lead to penalize a hole state. Maybe if you looked at it the other way Hillary choose to leave her name in defiance of the DNC to give a choice to the people. Maybe if the real "candidates" cared so much they would have left there name on the ballot to protest a clear view in my eyes to take voters rights away in choosing our next leader. Why is is shame on Hillary why not shame on Obama or Edwards for taking the choice away from the great people of michigan.

On another note I am glad to see a good race developing but we need to remember if we stay united and get behind whom ever gets the nomination will be in a better spot to go against the republicans. Unity is what is driving record numbers of Democrats out to vote we just have to take the unity and energy with our eventual nominee whom ever he or she is and make sure we don't falter and loose another election. This election is not just about the lesser of 2 evils it is about bringing back our nation to honor, respect and giving us all no matter what social strata you are in a chance at a better life.

Senator   January 10th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

CHANGE and HOPE. Can that snake oil salesman talk anything useful other than those two words? He is all talk and nothing else to take action on. Enough of Clinton Bashing. Where were you all, when you enjoyed the eight Clinton years of steady economic growth, low unemployment and peaceful times? This NOBAMA will not offer anything new to this nation. Don't waste your vote on him.

Leslie, Tallahassee, FL   January 10th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Well, I can't speak for Michigan because I'm a Floridian. That said, I'd like to point out that the citizens of Florida had little or nothing to do with the Florida Legislature's decision to move up the primary. Our state is controlled by the republican machine, and as a result my vote in the primary is likely not to count unless we do something like these folks in Michigan are proposing.

I love Bill Clinton and often said that I'd do anything to get Him back in office. I didn't think that would mean electing Her president. Of course Hillary will get my vote in the general election if she gets this party's nomination. I'd just rather John Edwards get my vote in the primary AND general elections.

It seems like we democrats are spending a lot of time attacking each other for supporting different democratic candidates in the primaries. Maybe we could save that energy for attacking the republican candidates in the general election. Just a thought.

NN   January 10th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

Hay Ada,
How about Obama? do u think there is no division between Aferican American? For Obama not only in American citizen but also in religon. What do u say Ada?

Jen Cedar Falls, IA   January 10th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

ANYBODY BUT CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leslie Levy, Savannah, GA   January 10th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

vote for Hussein Obama

shelia   January 10th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! The media, polls, and commentators must feel like fools by predicting that Hillary would lose by double digits. They all have their tails tucked between their legs now while they are licking their wounds! We already have a person in the white house who is inexperience! Why would you want to put another one in like Obama? And if Hillary does win, You can join in with the mention above!!! Good wound licking!!!! Go, Hillary!

Ginny Ca   January 10th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Hillary has played by the rules, as always, and will do fine in Michigan. I think the voters there will do their homework, learn about the positions and relevant experience (or lack thereof) of each candidate, and choose their candidates accordingly. I think they will, as the New Hampshire voters did, vote for substance over hype.

BCOOL   January 10th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I wish i lived in Michigan just to I could vote uncommitted.

RON PAUL 08

Ilene, Livonia MI   January 10th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

Notice, I am from MI. Most everyone I know who is democrat is going for the uncommitted vote. One, we like Obama. Hillary has proved time and time again that she is fed by the lobbiest and special interest. When her hubby started being pals with daddy Bush they both started turning my stomach. Hillary and Bill are Washington in every way and in Michigan we want change. We want honesty back in the White House and we do not want anyone that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
I am saying my prayers that our uncommitted vote can beat her!!!!!!!

man of god   January 10th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

the world needs a president in office that feasr GOD AND PUTS GOD FIRST. THE BEST PERSON TO VOTE FOR IS HILLARY CLITON

Lee   January 10th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

I find it so curious when Hillary won in New Hampshire - the news reported she sqeaked by Obama. In Iowa, she was a lagging 3rd and gonna be out according to the media when in reality Edwards just barely passed her.

Everyday the news has to have at least one negative Hillary story.

What was Obamas negative story today????? Well you can easily make them up just like you do for Hillary.

You guys are so freakin unfair it is not even funny.

the world is fallin apart people - dont pick someone you wanna go to a basketball game with (cause you never will) pick someone that truly has experience. He has so little experience. I fear for our country if he wins - but I know the republicans will win if he gets the demo nom.

Dont waste your vote on Obama - vote Hillary and give the Dems a chance.

Jose Card - Independent   January 10th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Should Hillary be elected, we will have to set a budget for buying expensive insurance to cover our national treasure in the White House.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/1190410.stm

"And then only days later we heard that the Clintons had walked off with something like $190,000-worth of White House furniture."

Just how can we trust the Clintons with our nation? The illegal campaign donations from the Chinese? Lincoln Bedroom for rent to big donors? The loss of our satellites and missile guidance secrets to China during the Clinton administration?

Thanks to Bill Clinton! Now China can shoot down our satellites any time.
You won't be able to watch CNN. Our forces won't be able to see where the enemies are without those eyes in space. Are you going to bring the Clintons back for more damage to our national security?

Anne   January 10th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Becky….Read up on what the candidates did when your state representatives decided to move your elections up - Edwards and Obama bailed - Clinton stayed on the ballot with good reason - in hopes that your representative will get it together - looks like Edwards and Obama have little faith in Michigan's reps.

David…where did you read that "…"??? More negative speculation - so who is dividing up the people?? The news media - anyone in particular? Without proof the comments are nothing more than that and I take it that the intent is to create division.

Stephen - Uncommitted is not a vote for Hillary…….

We the people   January 10th, 2008 9:16 pm ET

Ok all of you Obama people, how can you as americans support someone who doesn't even believe in our pledge of allegiance? Come on you want him to be president, why? Also who has really listened to him, how is he for our middle class/our children/healthcare…….I really hope that to all of you who keep chanting his name really know what you are doing.

Richard, Mckinney, Texas   January 10th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

It's like everyone take one step forward if you all agree to withdraw…they as they all step forward Hillary steps backwards…she is a ruthless and dishonest person..

Richard, Mckinney, Texas   January 10th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

with the Klinton's it's all about power…they would eat their young for power….

Jeff, Rathdrum ID   January 10th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

I won't slam Clinton, vote Clinton or uncommitted. As an Obama supporter I would say Uncommited. But I have a question, what does uncommited mean if later you get a voice, can you then have a vote?
But the reason I'm writing is this:
It's a shame these people are not going to get a say, I also don't agree Iowa and NH should get so much say. But you know we only hear about this right before elections, and I don't think that is the time to make changes. I say the time to do it is right after the election, as soon as we vote, let's start working on this problem!!!!
I would like to see something like dates set for primaries or caucuses, and right after the election every year a lottery like system picks what state goes in those dates. The dates are set but not the states!!! Of course it's just an idea and people alot smarter then me might find that won't work!!!

Anne   January 10th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

It is a sad commentary for this nation when I read comments like from Xavier, Washington, DC who feel that Obama may have won due to the fact that Michigan has so many blacks. Is that really a reason to elect a President? No matter DNC or RNC…..think - think - think and make decisions based on a thought process other than color. To vote for someone just because they are Black, or to suggest that they would win a contest just because they are Black is insulting not only to the Nation as a whole but to each individual voter.

Jessica   January 10th, 2008 8:57 pm ET

OBAMA 08.

Hail Hillary   January 10th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

The Hillary bashers on this ticker wouldn't be baying like basset hounds IF HILLARY WERE NOT SO STRONG AND HEAVILY TIPPED TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY. The louder they bay, the more bitter their words are, the more hate they exhbit towards Hillary, the more it is being seen how UNBEATABLE HILLARY IS. The increasing number of anti-Hillary comments prove one thing: Obama's supporters and anti-Hillary campaigners are getting more and more frustrated in their bid to dislodge Hillary from her front-running position in the current primary/caucus wave. They indeed are moving hell and high water to pull Hillary down, but they see they are not making any progress - hence their hysterical drive to bash Hillary march to victory. They keep piling themselves over one another. Their increasing envy and hate for Hillary is Goliath to Hillary's David of talent, experience, intelligence of a woman it will take NEVER for America to replace. Without Hillary, there can never be a woman President of the US. She is matchless and her detractors are not willing to concede this. Anti-Hillary women, get over your dumbness!

jane   January 10th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

If you want delegates…PUT YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT!!

By calling for the uncommited vote, Obama and Edwards are again trying to embarass Hillary. Stick it to them and vote for Hillary!

Go Hillary!

blackman   January 10th, 2008 8:36 pm ET

DEBBIE DINGELL!!!!! IS THE REAL CULPRIT!!!

FOR ALL YOU FOLKS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF MICHIGAN HERE IS THE REAL TRUTH!!!

DEBBIE DINGELL SITS ON "THE STATE & NATIONAL DNC COMMITTES"(THAT IS UNFAIR IN ITSELF)(BLACKS SHOULD HAVE A VOICE @ THE STATE LEVEL WITH THE LILLY WHITE DNC, BUT WE DONT) I BLAME THE STATE'S BLACK POLITICAL LEADERS FOR NOT BEING DEMANDING ENOUGH FOR "A SEAT @ THE TABLE WHEN MAKING RULES CHANGES"!!!

UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR STATE MOST BLACK POLS ARE "CHASING THE MONEY" & DONT CARE ABOUT "BLACK VOICES BEING HEARD DEMOCRATICALLY IN PROPORTION TO OUR PARTICIPATION"!!!!

DEBBIE DINGELL ALSO SITS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR G.M…..
& SHE REPRESENTS THE AUTO INDUSTRY ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND JOHN DINGELL……

WHO HAS BEEN IN CONGRESS CLOSE TO 40YEARS…..(THATS WHAT I SAID)…

THEY HATE OBAMA, BECAUSE HE HAD "THE NERVE", TO TELL AN AUDIENCE OF "WHITE CORPORATE MONEY", "TO CHANGE YOUR AUTO'S TO HAVE HIGHER C.A.F.E. STANDARDS"!!!! ( HOW DARE HE SPEAK TO US SO BOLDLY)????(YOU KNOW THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE THINKING)!!!

SO DEBBIE IS DOING THE "DNC WASH.D.C. PARTY INSIDERS & G.M.", A BIG FAVOR IN RE WRITING "THE RULES TO FAVOR HILLARY"!!!!

RECALL JOHN DINGELL & FIRE DEBBIE DINGELL OFF OF THE DNC NATIONAL & STATE COMMITTEE!!!!

NO DRAMA WITH OBAMA IN 2008!!!

Laurinda   January 10th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

I like what that tj is your slice wrote. I guess he expressed himself.

Dem in Chicago   January 10th, 2008 8:32 pm ET

DEMS-

Sean Hannity was absolutely giddy about Hillary winning on Tuesday. Anytime that piece garbage is happy, we should be unhappy. The republicans WANT to face Hillary. I would love for her to be president, but I fear she would lose the general election, and I'm not willing to take that chance. There's too much at stake.

Obama would beat any of those republican clowns EASILY. That's the matchup we need! Hillary supporters NEED to think about the general election; just by nominating her doesn't mean she'd be elected president.

Vote Obama for a sure win! (or, I guess, in your case, vote "uncommited." that really sucks)

Dale E   January 10th, 2008 8:26 pm ET

o A sensible way out of Iraq
o Gave and continues to give healthcare greater visibility
o Pragmatic
o Will allow tax breaks enacted by George bush to lapse. Our generation will have to pay our own bills rather than lay them at the feet of our children and grandchildren. A true Democrat.

Vote Hillary!!!

Louis, New York   January 10th, 2008 8:19 pm ET

Now the Clintons can blame the vast left wing conspiracy if she loses.

ANYONE BUT CLINTON '08

Ralph   January 10th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

Hillary with all her 'experience' sent America to war in iraq leaving us with close to a trillion doller debt not to talk about the loss of precious lives of our loved ones.vote anything but Hillary!

1222ban   January 10th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

BE HAPPY, BUT NOT FOR LONG.
Barack Obama'S COMMING BACK STRONG

charlee   January 10th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

Can someone please answer these questions with specifics?

1. Health Care, Senator Obama will require Children to have Health Care but not Adults. So how about their parents, the ones that most often cannot afford insurance, but need it to stay healthy to care for their children?

2. The National Deficit, How does he plan to fix that and explain how it will work?

3. Social Security, Again, How does he plan to fix that and explain how it will work?

4. Education?

5. Immigration?

6. Bi-Partisan across the Country and in Party lines?

If he's already laid them out, I some how missed it.

Thanks
Charlee

Kristina   January 10th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

Since Michigan was probably the state that suffered the most under the Bush regime, they really should have gotten to vote first. I'm so tired of Iowa & New Hampshire voting first. Out of all the states in the country they are probably the most out of touch with the rest of us.
As for Hillary, I think she did the right thing by leaving her name on the ballot. Taking your name off is the same as denying voters the right to vote for you. If
I were running I could care more about peoples right to vote than about DNC rules. Edwards & Obama basically indicated that they would rather follow a rule that was unethical and wrong than support the voters. I'm undecided, but not happy with either of them for their inability to do the right thing. If following the rules means disenfranchising voters then they should break the rules. I have until
Super Tues to decide, but I'm leaning towards Hillary. In the past 35 years she has done a lot for women & childrens health & welfare. In addition, when Bill was pres, I lived quite well & I wasn't constantly hearing about the danger I was in. I'm tired of a govt that tries to rule thru fear and greed. Why is it that the poor in this country now pay a higher % in taxes than the wealthy? thank you George!

Carrie   January 10th, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Kate

100% agree with you.

Hillary is a weak woman for "standing by her man." Always the victim! I would love a woman to become president. I just don't think that Hillary deserves "the first woman president title." I want a strong woman for president.

There's No Crying In Politics   January 10th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

I do not vote for someone who gets teary eyed, has an near-emotional breakdown and says "it's not easy" about the election. If she feels that way about the election, then I definitely don't want to see what she would feel like in the Oval Office, if things got too tough for her. If she can't get it together for the election, I don't her running our country, and has a breakdown when she finds out she cant handle the pressure of the presidency. The people of N.H. are very nieve and should have re-considered this before they voted!!! I feel she is not ready for the presidency and would feel much beter with Obama in the office.
OBAMA FOR '08.

DOWN WITH HELLARY   January 10th, 2008 7:44 pm ET

Libs cant see Hellary is a liar and a cheat. She be and say whatever she needs at that very moment. Hellary is NOT PRESIDENTIAL!! Neither was Slick Willie! Enough with the hillbilly clintons. Isnt two familys controling AMERICAS direction scary to anyone? Give someone else a chance……its in all our best intrest!!

CitizenUSA   January 10th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

New game show…Guess the Imposter !

America…think long and hard before voting for a self professed drug user. An addicted chain smoker who hasn't the willpower to quit like millions of other average citizens have accomplished. An individual who spent at least part of his/her youth as a student studying Islam and Muslim teachings.

He/she belongs to a church that is a separist organization.
He/she doesn't even support his/her own supporters…just ask the minister of the church that this candidate states is their place of worship.

Nor does he/she come from a poor family as claimed. His/her Father was a wealthy landowner. That makes liar a part of his/her personna as well.

Presidential or Impostor…please do your research of all candidates before pressing that game button and you will have "Guessed the Impostor"!

Stephen Taylor, Macon, GA   January 10th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

I thought "uncommitted" WAS Hillary!

Mario   January 10th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Hitlery wishes she could run for president all by hersel, now her dream has come through this time, enjoy it because it will be the only time.

She stands for change alright, change your life for her style to keep you in favor to get goverment involved in every day living. Tax the crap out of you, scare you into thinking the government will be there in case of a hurricane, remember Katrina anyone.

She isn't going to change anything for the better she and her sick husband are in this race for one thing and one thing only…for themselves.

What experience does she have, none Obuma has been a senator longer than her, she hasn't changed or done anything to change things in 35 years like she wants you to believe she has…show me one thing. that is what I thought, nothing.

Go Obuma!

Ginny Ca   January 10th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

To Bob, Flint MI & Bob W: It seems to me it would be prudent for Obama to contact his local or national headquarters to find out what his plans are so that he, in turn, will be able to explain them to the voters.

Jeff   January 10th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

The supporters of the other candidates willing to stay by their party and not putting themselves above the party which gives them support should vote uncommitted, don't implicitly support Hillary Clinton because she wants the race more then the health of the process and her own party.

Reine   January 10th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

The Democratic Party did not want Michigan to move up their primary date and is angry as Clinton chose to be on the ballot anyway, unlike her candiate rivals who play "nice" with the Democratic Party rather than Michigan Voters. By voting uncommitted voters reinforce that candidates must do as their party dictates. NO THANKS!

Prayu   January 10th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

CNN runs negative stories about Hillary because she does lots of negative things. Like what happened in this situation.

Is it Obama's fault that he's getting big name endorsements left and right, and that his positive and uplifting campaign is still rolling along? No, it's not. Stop blaming the media for every little thing that goes against your candidate, I'm sure none of you said anything when Hillary was touted as the obvious winner a few months ago, or when CNN writers sympathized with her fake emotional showings.

Oh and actually, the Republican candidates have all but stated that they are ready for Hillary; but that Obama is far more of an unknown and worrisome opponent because of his ability to galvanize the youth and get Republican voters to cross over. He's far more electable than she is at this point, because she is divisive and polarizing. Many Independents like myself will simply not vote Democratic if she gets the nomination.

lynn   January 10th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

more Hillary bashing!!! I think people are affraid that she will show up the men! If Edwards and Obama took their names off the ballet thats their choice. Hillary is the only one that can beat the Republicans….. LETS NOT BLOW IT AGAIN Democrates!!!!!!!

CNN needs to get off the Hillary Bashing also!!! Lets hear about the others!!! Are you guys looking for the country to pick who you want To be president?

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE!!!

Karsen Rumpf, Iowa City, IA   January 10th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

Michigan Help Barack Obama. Hilary Clinton is not going to change anything. She will probably just start crying again.

Michigan Voter   January 10th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

I am all for Mrs Clinton, and sincerely hope that when she wins she will tell us like her husband did that the two of them are one package. When we elect one of them we get both of them. That is what Bill Clinton told us in 1992. I pray that will be also true in 2008 and on 20Jan2009.
Also, the unmitigated chutzpah of political parties telling the sovereign voters of the sovereign state of Michigan just how and when we should vote. And especially the pernicious idea concommittant and following this with mathematical certainty that we in Michigan should by following these so called unelected and self appointed national arbiters we will passively and pathetically accept the leavings of others when choosing our national leadership. We in Michigan have the absolute right from the Articles of the Constitution of the United States of conducting our own elections. And other states having the same rights are precluded from interfering with us as we are from interfering with them.
Never should we give our rights away and our choice away by giving in to these manipulators telling us to vote 'uncommitted'. To do so is to allow virtually ANY candidate to be selected by shadowy unseen hands in and for our name.You might not even like or even have ever heard of some of these people.

Angela   January 10th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

I suggested earlier that the States should be penalized for moving their elections in direct violation to the Party rules. I have to admit that the DNC and RNC should penalized not the States.
Dean brought up a very good point. The DNC/RNC are unelected officials screwing with the voting and they are, in fact, at fault not the States,
As he said, the States have every right to set their own Primaries.
Florida actually said they moved the Primaries because there was already a vote scheduled in January for statewide issues and it would be too hard to get the voters out to the polls again in February so they decided to consolidate the two for better voter turnout.
That's their story and they're sticking to it.

Dale   January 10th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

The situation in Michigan is very bleak! We are still tied to the automobile, have high unemployment, and jobs leaaving the state in droves. Our Democratic US senators and democratic governor have done next to nothing to slow down this exodus. Now we wish to have a bigger role in the presidential election process because we are really hurting, and all the major players are ignoring us. Even the republican candidates flew here for one day and are now gone! Thnks to both parties for ALL the SUPPORT!

kate   January 10th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

HILLARY DOES NOT REPRESENT WOMEN!!! .. How many women in your neighbourhood do you know who are like Hillary? Hillary has always lived the good life … what does he know about the average person's life? .. and if you think Washington is divided … you might as well close the place when she becomes president …

David California Republican   January 10th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

Jim….

I think you put it best…..this will be this election's Hanging Chad

But the real powderkeg will come at the convention, Michigan still thinks that the DNC will cave and allow their delegates to be seated and vote. Part of me is kind of enjoying seeing the Democrats squirm under their own bungling (its been so long), there is no way that they can be allowed to vote at the convention without it becoming an even uglier mess than it is now…

cold_man   January 10th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

You folks need to grow up. Whomever is voted President will not be able to make legislation…Congress and Senate do that. Also what does anyone know about Barack Obama…all you know is change…change to what? You have no idea. Some people are morons.

D   January 10th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

This smells like something the REPUBLICANS thought up …Is ROVE advising all the males now .. Democrat and Republican ??? Males will obviously do anything to prevent a woman from becoming PRESIDENT … Including selling their souls to the DEVIL (Rove and the Republicans)

jp/michigan   January 10th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Obama and Edwards voluntarily disenfranchised millions of Michigan voters by their actions. Backroom politics have taken priority over our constitutional right to vote. Iam even more dumbfounded that no seems to be angry about this. Then Carl Levin and John Conyers want voters to vote non commital instead because their boys aren't on the ballot. Michigan democrats should and must vote Hillary. Obama and Edwards want change alright they took themselves off the ballot. The changed the way of voting in Michigan primary. Voting non committal gives those losers a pat on the back.

David   January 10th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

I read this and though people should know
"Multiple indications of vote fraud are beginning to pop up regarding the New Hampshire primary elections. Roughly 80% of New Hampshire precincts use Diebold machines, while the remaining 20% are hand counted. A Black Box Voting contributor has compiled a chart of results from hand counted precincts vs. results from machine counted precincts. In machine counted precincts, Clinton beat Obama by almost 5%. In hand counted precincts, Obama beat Clinton by over 4%, which closely matches the scientific polls that were conducted leading up to the election. Another issue is the Republican results from Sutton precinct. The final results showed Ron Paul with 0 votes in Sutton. The next day a Ron Paul supporter came forward claiming that both she and several of her family members had voted for Ron Paul in Sutton. Black Box Voting reports that after being asked about the discrepancy Sutton officials decided that Ron Paul actually received 31 votes in Sutton, but they were left off of the tally sheet due to 'human error.'"

Chuck   January 10th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

For the person who wants to switch to MSNBC: they run two negative stories to every one CNN runs.

Chuck   January 10th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

I had to swallow hard to vote for Kerry. His endorsement means nothing to me. His gaffes after his loss are an indication of his presidency. As for all you HIllary bashers - you just don't get it. She's running to win and so are the others. They want it just as bad. If they pull the uncommitted play; she should pull a play on them.

Marque Snow   January 10th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is about the Economy, Healthcare, and Education. Obama doesn't come close; leave her alone. People scream no more Clinton, because they are a monarchy or something. Get real, Obama will not be ready for the republicans, nor will Edwards. Hillary Clinton shows that she likes Michigan enough to keep her name on the ballot. Question those politicians to pulled name off the ballot, not her, and I’m from Ohio.

Jeff   January 10th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Why must CNN run a negative story about Hillary EVERYDAY? They don't do that to anyone else. That's why I'm switching to MSNBC.

La'Kitgum, NH   January 10th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Only racist fools would twist the minds of informed Americans to knowingly vote "Uncommitted" on an issue that is important to the country. Are these the kind of politicians to follow at all.

The truth is coming out. Starting NH, Americans are beginning to understand that in politics, endogenous is more important than exogenous - that reality and fact are more important than rhetoric and body language or charisma without substance. Americans are beginning to understand that Hillary stands for what the President of the USA should be and not Obama with his empty promises.

"Mr. Obama has failed to rise to leadership on a single major issue in the Senate," Rove writes in a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed. "In the Illinois legislature, he had a habit of ducking major issues, voting 'present' on bills important to many Democratic interest groups, like abortion-rights and gun-control advocates. "For someone who talks about a new, positive style of politics and pledges to be true to his word, Mr. Obama too often practices the old style of politics, saying one thing and doing another," he said.

Obama's leadership leaves a lot more questions to be answered but foremost, how can he be an agent of change without experience? How can he change what he does not know? How can he change what he does not have? Experience in economy, healthcare and security are all in Hillary's bag and Hillary can change them for the good of all America. Obama has a bag of experience but it is empty. He has nothing to change.

My prayers and Best wishes to Hillary and I urge all Americans (black, white, oriental, hispanic) to support Clinton because they will never regret their votes. We did it in NH. NH understands that it is issues, not body language, which stands out in this campaign and Hillary is all about issues. Listen to her carefully instead of cheering at her and you will understand just like the people of NH did - the issues matter.

Sandy   January 10th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Seems to me Hillary was the only one smart enough to have faith that the State of Mich democrats would get their crap together and be represented just like the other states.

Scott, Detroit   January 10th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

OK. Dave in Battle Creek.

I can NOT let your ignorant comments about Detroit go.

Downtown Detroit had the HIGHEST growth in NEW HOUSING in 2007 - of ALL COUNTIES in southeast Michigan.

More than 60 NEW restaurants have opened in downtown Detroit in the past five years.

Compuware, GM & Quicken Loans are all moving tens of thousands of suburban jobs into downtown Detroit.

A 100 Million complex was announced for Campus Martius downtown just this week, bringing more than 85 luxury residences, new theatres, retail, and restaurants to the city

The Newly Renovated Westin Book Cadillac sold the first $1 Million penthouse in the city's core and most of their NEW luxury condos are already sold

In addition to the Westin Book Cadillac, Detroit has seen two BRAND NEW hotels open downtown, PLUS the Fort Shelby Hotel which is now under construction.

During Superbowl XL, the international press raved about the city of Detroit, giving the city high marks for its service industry and atmosphere.

New Streets, landscaping, nighttime lighting and light displays, thousands of NEW residents in loft condos and apartments, new entertainment venues and businesses have been opening, NOT closing. While the rest of Michigan, including Battle Creek, has been suffering, Downtown Detroit has been one of the state's brightest spots of economic development and urban renewal.

YOU need to take a trip to the city. You clearly haven't been here in at least 10 years.

WHICH makes the point of my original comments above even more important - as others on here have said, the Dems snubbing michigan means they are not paying attention to what's going on here. Our voices aren't being heard and our very real economic crisis is not being considered. I have to give it to Romney & McCain, who have been on the radio here all day today - they are talking about very specific needs for Michigan and the industries that are here. I disagree with them so much, but at least they are adressing US. Whereas we are being left behind by the dems. It's a shame - not on us, or on the candidates, but on this process.

I'll say it again: We NEED a National Primary Day, or at least something different.

cc, Chicago   January 10th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

This is not a negative story about Sen. Clinton. It's a story about the Michigan Democratic Party. The Michigan Democratic Party broke ranks with the national party and Sen. Edwards, Obama (and before dropping out Gov. Richardson) abided by the national party's wishes and withdrew their names from the ballot. If you are a supporter of Sen. Clinton, you may still vote for her. However, if you support another candidate, you may not write in that vote because under Michigan law, the candidate has to authorize a write-in campaign. It would not be devestating for Sen. Clinton to lose to uncommitted as Sen. Obama and Sen. Edward's totals combined have always been a greater share so it would be expected. However, not voting uncommitted if you support another candidate rewards Sen. Clinton for going against the national party's interests. Why she didn't remove her name from the ballot is perhaps a question she should be asked. I have to admit, rewarding her with all the state's delegates for breaking with the will of the national party does come across a bit self-serving.

S Uddin   January 10th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Another landmark proof of Hillary's betraying the democratic party and the nation. That is why when we opposes the war, she goes with Bush. AND SHE DOES NOT FEEL SORRY FOR killing 3,928 soilders and wounding 36,000soilders in IRAQ.

Dave, Atlanta, GA   January 10th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Okay so it's a wrinkle but how is it unexpected? This has been in the works for ages.

Carl   January 10th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

"What they are really scared about is the women."

Nita, this is not an issue of sexism. I'm a man and would love nothing more than to be able to support a woman for President. I strongly believe that many women make fantastic leaders and could serve this country amazingly well. So to imply that, as a man, my lack of support for Hillary Clinton is because I'm afraid of women is, frankly, offensive. I am not opposed to women. I am opposed to Hillary Clinton.

Why is that? It's certainly not without consideration, as I was once a proud supporter of the former First Lady. However, after listening to her more closely over the months, I noticed that things weren't adding up. I just don't trust her, and I cannot support someone that I can't trust.

Now, concerning Michigan. I don't understand why certain states get this special privilege of voting first and I commend Michigan for standing up and making a powerful statement about this inequity. The DNC is being petty by punishing the voters of Michigan for this.

And finally, as far as I'm aware, the candidates all agreed that they would pull out of the race, Clinton included. Everybody but Clinton made good on their word. If this isn't backstabbing tactics, I'm not sure what is.

I won't tell anyone how they should vote, but if I lived in Michigan, I would vote uncommitted.

Rob   January 10th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

People get the facts… You want change and now that Michigan, Florida and a few other states have tried to make "change happen, you start speaking out the other side of you mouth. Those states simply made a stand to fix a system that is way out of date.

Obama and Edwards made their own fate by being "Status quo" and doing what they thought was politically correct at the time.

Get over it!!!

Michael in Texas   January 10th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Wow great story. I live many states away and had no idea this was going on. Please give this some air time so others can be made aware. I have been a republican for 18 years (I am 36) and I have to admit Obama and Edwards are really looking good to me. In fact if either win the nomination I will jump party lines to vote…. unless they tag H Clinton for VP.

Victor   January 10th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

it would seem to me that Americans need to be careful about endorsements and oratory skills that may sway votes as has happened in the past while perfomance on the job will leave a lot to be desired.

Talking about Cliches in this campaign. I just listened to Hillary Clinton;s message to New Hamshire and i realised that "WE CAN" WAS USED CONSISTENTLY and suddenly in Barak Obama's speech conceeding victory to Hillary in New Hamshire and indeed now newly placed on his website is "YES WE CAN". who is the original owner of this?. lets did back to other candidates and give appropriate credit. "WHO REALLY CAN" FOR AMERICA AND THE WORLD?. THE WORLD IS WATCHING…………

Anonymous   January 10th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

I HOPE YOU WIN!!!!!!!!

Ann   January 10th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Since Michigan is cut out of the primary process, it makes sense that the delegates will not commit in advance.

This strategy is the only way they even get to ante up.

No Fast Ones   January 10th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Clinton pulled a fast one and now the results are come home to haunt her as they should. Amanda, above, hit it on the head. Had not Granhold, Levin and the two Dingells pulled a calendar jumping stunt, Michigan would have had their say and I don't blame them for being angry. Just direct that anger at the appropriate parties above.

Uncommitted is a great way to make a statement and I hope Michigan will make this choice. Do not reward slight of hand and cheap tricks. We had far too many of them in our elections.

Tony V.   January 10th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

i love democracy

Jim   January 10th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

It's really comforting to know that our flawed system is even MORE messed up. Hillary is the only Democratic candidate on the ballot? Who came up with this gem of an idea, Bill? Forget having a legitimate Michigan vote. This will probably become this election's Hanging Chad. Just what we need; another voting debacle.

Robert   January 10th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Obama is a joke.

President Hillary Clinton!!!!!!!!!! The only person who can undue the damage bush/cheney have done to our great country.

Angela   January 10th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Go Hillary! Your smarter than the rest!

Angela   January 10th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Scott, Royal Oak,

If all the kids in the pool are stupid enough to jump in and get wet and at the last minute someone decides not to jump in because its really not in the best interests of the group then that person can and will think for himself / herself and not be bullied into something that's not a good idea for the group. So when all the sheep are sloping around in the pool, she's dry and getting things done.
Touche! Old sport!

Alan- Ohio   January 10th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

All i need to say is.

Obama 'n roll.

pam s.c.   January 10th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

michigan supporters vote uncommited

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