January 11, 2008
Posted: 12:00 PM ET

(CNN) — A good assessment of how a candidate successfully takes a message and makes a mark on voters is when you begin to hear them repeat it over and over in calls, e-mails and on radio talk shows.

After getting dusted by Sen. Barack Obama in Iowa, Sen. Hillary Clinton knew that she needed to change her position to combat the agent of change language presented by Obama. It was clear that just talking about her experience as First Lady wasn’t enough, because taking credit for all the good done by the administration of President Bill Clinton also meant assuming the bad.

But what Clinton has done is reframe her experience by expanding it beyond the eight years she’s served in the U.S. Senate. Now, you hear her talk about having 35 years of experience as a change agent.

The key part really isn’t being an advocate for change, but the emphasis on 35 years.

And it has caught on because I’ve noticed the phrase taking foot among the electorate, and they are now repeating it.

Judging by her resume, the 60-year-old Clinton has decided to reach back and suggest that all that the work she has done since graduating from college matters. The compare and contrast is that with Obama being 46, Clinton is suggesting that she has been working on issues since her chief rival was still in junior high school.

Ouch.

The biggest knock on his campaign has been Clinton defining him as being inexperienced, even though it is true that he’s served longer as an elected official (11 years) than Clinton (eight).

The Obama campaign has failed to adequately respond to this change in Clinton tactics, and if they don’t, they will pay for it — because for the most part, the rest of the states will require getting traditional Democratic voters out to the polls.

One way for them to do so is to stop having Obama just say he worked as a community organizer. But what does that really mean?

He has to paint the picture of going into the public housing complexes of Chicago, helping people get needed services. He must say that he drove a beat up car to the West Side and South Side to sign people up to vote. He must say that his experience in the streets – laid out as explicit as possible – is the kind of experience that he will reflect on and use when sitting in the Oval Office.

Obama’s weakness is among low to middle-income voters. Speaking about this experience can help him identify with these voters.

But as of now, Clinton is winning the experience battle by changing the definition.

– CNN Analyst Roland Martin

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Roland Martin


sORRY!   January 23rd, 2008 3:30 pm ET

OUCH! is the insanity of the clintons trying to run a government that they help to destory and the realization that they have faded out to the american people.

Now here is the click to all of this. It does not matter who is running against the clintons america will see them act the same way.

In this instance it just so happen to be obama.

PS I would like to see a list of all hillary's accomplishments in congress, in senate, and why did she allow Walmart to take over small businesses and how much money did she and Billy bank up until the time Obama told America on them.

Lillian, Des Moines, IA   January 16th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Mr. Martin: Your CNN comments are unfair and biased toward Obama. Michelle O. started the "race" dialog back in early Nov when she made race solidarity an issue at the Obama JJ Event rally and she has continually used a racially-based "we" in her speeches.

Meanwhile, Obama and his top staffer have been sexist beyond belief and no one calls them on it. Obama said Hillary's work as first lady was "taking tea" (You can't IMAGINE how that ticked us women off!). His top "strategist" said Hillary somehow CAUSED Bhutto's assassination because she voted to put UN inspectors back into Iraq (the so-called "Iraq War" vote).

And while Hillary removed staffers and volunteers who raised racial overtones, Obama did not reciprocate by firing his sexist employees or apologizing for his own nasty comment.

So if you're going to be a commentator, be a fair one!! Right now, you have a double standard. The Obamas can do no wrong, apparently.

patty   January 14th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I'll take Clinton over Obama any given Day!

patty   January 14th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Like they keep saying; there will be no middle class in the future, only very rich or very poor. just keep voting for Obama and that is what is going to happen!!!!!!!!!

Mom   January 14th, 2008 2:32 am ET

Your mother here children- I have more exprience than all of you so don't tell me about HOPE AND CHANGE you will only fail if you go out there and challenge the status quo.

redflag   January 13th, 2008 8:08 am ET

Honestly

You're right! The middle class need to be willing to give up some of their "hard earned money" to help the poor. Obama will make it happen. Finally!

Workers Unite!!!!!

mark wilkes barre pa   January 12th, 2008 6:11 am ET

Mr Martin ,,, an empty resume is an empty resume no matter how you try to spin it. Obama simply has none and Hillary's is made up and changed daily to fit her agenda of the day. Obama is a likable guy no-doubt. He comes off as trustworthy and kind ,but in these times that is not enough for me. Hillary will further polarize the nation, continue partison feuding for however long she can hold on to the presidency. If americans really want change, we are going to have to demand a better crop of candidates on both sides of the isle

ABC!   January 12th, 2008 4:25 am ET

EXPERIENCE AT BEING PHONY… WHAT A SAD LITTLE CLOWN SHE IS…

GREENVILLE, S.C. — Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday she sees her sometimes Southern accent as a virtue.

"I think America is ready for a multilingual president," Clinton said during a campaign stop at a charter school in Greenville, S.C.

The New York senator — who said she's been thinking about critics who've suggested that she tried to put on a fake Southern accent in Selma, Ala. — noted that she's split her life between Arkansas, Illinois and the East Coast.

Clinton added a Southern lilt to her voice last week when addressing a civil rights group in New York City headed by the Rev. Al Sharpton. On Monday, dealing with a microphone glitch at a fundraiser for young donors, she quoted former slave and underground railroad leader Harriet Tubman.

EVERY HILLARY SUPPORTER SHOULD WATCH HER ON YOUTUBE DOING ANYTHING TO GET VOTES IN THE SOUTH…SHE WOULD MAKE THEM SO PROUD…HA HA!!

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 12th, 2008 3:44 am ET

Martha is wrong.

Obama did not vote present "on most issues." He voted present 130 times out of 4,000 TOTAL VOTES!

Voting present is not uncommon in the Illinois legislature. He mostly voted present on issues he found unconstitutional.

Obama haters, please gets your facts straight!!!

Eric, from THE, yes THE, Republic of Texas   January 12th, 2008 2:35 am ET

Headline: Clinton redefines what experience is

Well, I suppose that depends what your definition of experience is…

Maybe in Bizarro World where up is down and yes is no can Hillary Clinton redefine "experience."

This is yet another chapter in a much bigger book written by the original King and Queen of Audacity where they attempt to rewrite reality and history.

Experience means ACTUALLY doing something… not talking about it, not polling about it and not holding focus groups on it.

The only thing Hillary has done in those 35 years is sit on committees. In effect, she's never had a job in her life.

Get a job Hillary. Get some REAL experience. Learn to manage a payroll. Learn to make a business work and survive. And like the rest of us, learn how to keep the greedy fingers of Big Spending liberals out of your wallet (ie Taxes). It's amazing how generous some people want to be with other people's money.

MG   January 12th, 2008 2:19 am ET

Very true - Obama cannot just say he has been a community organizer. That is not an accomplishment that is a task that he perhaps had to do so he can lay down the road map to his political ambitions.

Obama who claims to be a uniter is creatively polarizing the American people by using Martin Luther King Jr's dream speech. It's funny how he is just talking about it again when the Clintons have already embraced that dream and have worked to prosper that dream. Why do you think Bill was called "the first black president"?

To give Pres. Johnson credit for enacting MLK Jr's dream is not to discredit or reduce the dream or MLKjr but to put a stop to the "battle cry" if Obama aspires to be president of America and not just of Africa.

Hillary does not have to talk about MLKjr's dream because she has already been working to prosper that dream. And at this time when the economy, security and foreign policy are paramount, that dream is better served by electing someone who vcan, will, abd has been enacting change to make noble dreams come true. That's Hillary.

Eric in Massachusetts   January 12th, 2008 12:37 am ET

Tom of Dedham, I'm ashamed to be from the same state as you. Why should Hillary apologize and explain what Cuomo said? I don't expect Baracka Husein Obama to explain what Kerry said or to explain Oprah's extensive use of ebonics while stumping in South Carolina. Both of those are examples of innapropriate behavior, but I don't blame Obama. Just his supporters.

Get a grip dude.

Jose Card - Independent   January 11th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Cave1n January 11, 2008 3:40 pm ET

Uttered by Hillary Clinton January 2008—Only the Simpsons could have beat this.

"I want to make change, but I've already made change," she said. "I will continue to make change. I'm not just running on a promise of change. I'm running on 35 years of change." "The best way to know what change I will produce," she said, summing up, "is to look at the changes I've already made."

Nobody could have said it the way Hillary did.
Perhaps that's why she likes to do things quietly and leaves no fingerprints - in her own words.

Good material for South Park, too.

Christine NJ   January 11th, 2008 9:51 pm ET

If Obama win, the better name for our country should change to THE UNITED STATE OF AFRICA.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   January 11th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

"Clinton is winning the experience battle by changing the definition."

That's more or less the equivalent of the old politician's trick of ignoring the question that was actually asked and answering some different question entirely. Typical Clinton trickery.

AJ, IL   January 11th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

Mr. Roland Martin has "hit the hammer square on the head". Obama is trying to run a positive campaign and get voters to believe in the government again. His message of hope resonates with Americans, black and white, young and old. In order for Obama to run a more effective campaign against the Clintons and Republican attack machine, he has to get in the dirt but keep his gloves on.

Hillary and his campaign know that they can't compete against Obama's message of hope and change. So they are taking a page from the Republican's play book (as reiterated by Pat Buchanan on the show Hardball). Hillary (and Bill) have to define Obama and get the media and America to agree with their "definition". Now that Richardson is out of the Democratic race, Hillary can claim the "experience" factor as her own. Over and over again we hear that Hillary say's she has 35 years of experience fighting for change. Obama has to do two things to combat Hillary's claim, first define her experience. Question what change she has done in her 35 years that didn't involved Bill Clinton being in charge. Obama has to get Hillary to define her experience and "agent of change" status separate from riding Bill Clinton's coat-tails. Secondly he has to clearly and specifically demonstrate what his experience as community organizer and civil rights attorney entailed and what he learned from those experiences in relations to people's everyday problems.

Jose Card - Independent   January 11th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

Why would Hillary say such things to wipe out her efforts in making herself look younger and friendlier for the election? This reminds me of my favorite classic, "Singing in the Rain".

The best proof Hillary can have for her self-claimed experience can be found in this recent article, "Hillary's Hidden Hand" in Newsweek.

CNN keeps on stopping me from mentioning this article.
Please remember Newsweek is sold everywhere and can be read online.
And, this may be the only thing Hillary has got for her candidacy.
BBC and other media published this article as well.
Is CNN willing to get behind on news reporting and favor entertainment instead?

Sean McM   January 11th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Suggestion to Mrs. Clinton:

Get Obama off the experience firewall he has constructed to hide his brief history of non-accomplishments and exaggerated claims. When, for example, is part time lecturing at a college more than that…. a part time teaching job….why isn't he proud of 10 years of teaching? That is a respectable accomplishment, but why does it have to be inflated to the "Constitutional Law Scholar" status? Give us a break…we may be Americans but we are NOT stupid.

Suggestion: Substitue the word performance for experience

….

Mario   January 11th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

Obuma has more experience that Hitlery period!

Go Mitt!

Jane   January 11th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

In my opinion, Senator Clinton has not worked in politics for 35 years - in law maybe, but that's different. I think this assertion is a stretch. Thanks.

Jay Graham, Dallas, TX   January 11th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

James - If you criticize Clinton's foreign policy as a disaster, then what would you say about Bush's? Great achievement! Masterful performance! Or Bush as the smartest foreign policy honk this country as ever produced! I don't know which state you live in? And whether you have traveled anytime outside US? But, pick up any country of your choice (not Crawford, TX), and ask anyone about Bush and Clinton? If you tell them that you are Bush man, I can't guarantee your safety.

pam s.c.   January 11th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

HEY MY LAST COMMENT DID NOT GET POSTED ? I'LL REPEAT MY COMMENT GO ROLAND

Anonymous   January 11th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Oprha has professional goo-roo writers creating his speaches. I here cocaine will keep you up all night so theres time to reherse.I do not understand why or how a country would romance the idea of a COMMANDER AND CHIEF who sometimes does and sometimes does't respect our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA flag by a civilian SALUTE unless your suffering from past substance abuse or perhaps better yet, looking the direction of the country to which your spiritual alliance is sealed.Theres one thing Bush said that will always stand true,"YOUR EITHER FOR US OR AGAINST US"

Gobama   January 11th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

"Hilary Clinton is suggesting that she has been working on issues since her chief rival was still in junior high school."

Ha!

Implying that she's AN OLD WOMAN!

Voters should love that, grandma. LOL

joe   January 11th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

CNN PLEASE STOP MARTIN FROM HIS POLITCAL "OBJECTIVE" ANALYSTS..IT IS OBVIOUS, AS A BLACK MAN, HE IS ONE SIDED IN HIS REPORTING…AND IT IS NOT TRUE OBJECTIVE BALANCE REPORTING

joe   January 11th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

CNN…please have Martin stop his political "objective" analyst…as a black man, it is quite obvious he is subjective on his reporting

jason Kane   January 11th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

We all know what Mrs. Clinton would do in thw white House. The same thing she has done in the Senate: nothing. In her time there she ahs introduced not a single significant piece of legislation on any subject,

As for 35 years of experience…. where? Riding Bill's bimbo patrol? Working for big bucks in a do nothing job in a Clinton-driven law firm? making big money fromn her elation ship with Arkansas chicken farmers? This ia person with no resume at all.

I am reasonably certain she could find her way to concentrate on two things if America is idiotic enough to elect her. She would ponder new things to tax and old taxes to raise; and she would be on the constant lookout for somebody to surrender America to.

God Help Us all……….. and yes, I am fully aware that referene to God is among the most offensive things to democrats.

Rasaki ilupeju   January 11th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

I personally agreed with the whriter(Martin CNN) that Hilary Clinton has been using experiences to upbit senator Barack Obama.What Obama has to do now since he lost his front-runner in New-Hamshire is to change his 'strategy' immediatelly in explaining to the voters in the rest of the context how much experience he has got since he has been working in the Government for the past eleven-years.
He must also keep away from too-much cricticsysm of Senator Clintion and concentrate on his idea and principle of UNITED the Americans who have been having division since the beginning of IRAQ WAR.

Paul Honsinger, Lake Havasu City, Arizona   January 11th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Except for her time in the United States Senate, Hillary Clinton has no meaningful "experience" doing anything. When her husband was Governor of Arkansas and President of the United States, she held neither an appointed nor an elected office recognized by law, nor did she have any official responsibilities. While there is no doubt that she was busy (hiding documents, undermining opponents, complaining about the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, screwing up the health care initiative) she was not an office holder.

She wants to be credited with "experience" while her husband was in office without having to actually be saddled with any of the responsibility for the decisions and mistakes of those administrations. She wants to have her cake and eat it, too.

Typical.

dan judas-goat   January 11th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

defines exp,my behind:heres a woman that just stated that lbj did more for civil rights than martin luther king. the foot soldier for justice and all the people who gave their lives in the civil rights struggle: also the heros that were lynched and killed so that martin roland can be a cnn moderater should humble yourself. and don't give me that said in context excuse. the world was watching as lbj was forced to get a civil right act enacted.so for hiiliary to say that shows her true colors and exp. mr. roland.

Tracy   January 11th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

While I respect the steps Hillary has taken to pave her own path since Bill left the White House, I do not understand her claim of "experience". Sure, she's had 35 years in the spot light, but what has she ACCOMPLISHED? The Clintons haven't released the records from her White House years, and her senate record shows only fluff legislation, like naming a school or monument. She hasn't shown me she is a person who can get things done.

james   January 11th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Why do people think we had such "peace" under Clinton?

2 wars in the Balkans, we bombed Iraq several times, USS Cole, Embassy Bombings, Bombed Sudan and only accomplished blowing up an asprin factory and pissing people off, Haiti was a Clinton Catastrophe, escalated Somalia from its limited humanitarian effort during the Bush administration, the Somalia intervention had evolved into a broader peace-keeping mission… a mission that wass ABANDONED at the first bad press leaving even more problems then was there before. … and we are still facing the fall out in Somalia today
But I guess Clinton didn't really like Africans much, as after that he chose to completely IGNORE and even impede UN from helping in major genocides like Rwanda and Congo (no white people dieing, so it dont count).

Don't talk to me about how Clinton was somehow great with foreign policy and we had world peace with him around.

BLAH

Disgusted by my people   January 11th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Ask Clinton what he'll do about Kenya, because her hubby who claims to love us black folks, sure didn't care about Rawand!

Glazed, Detroit metro   January 11th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Mr Rolands, Earn you pay. Next article can you explain what changes are going to happen.
1. Is the sun going raise in the west?
2. Is US foriegn policy gong to change? If so how? By whom?
3. Is US domestic policy going to change? What polices are going to change? Will Congress go along with theses unkown (to me and erveryone else) changes?
4. What effect will the "Changes" have in future? One more credit crisis or $200 for oil?

Parroting the work "Change" and getting people all worked up is easy, will millions of others money.

You as a reporter NEED to bring all issues out properly and clearly else after you profession screwed up the IRAQ debate, you guys will not be trusted.

Bob   January 11th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

To: James, American in Paris,

With thoughts like yours I hope you stay in Paris….. The "peace" that was taking place during the Clinton years was a piece of tail for Bill. I think you actually may be French, we were attacked 4 times by terroists with Bill in office and he did nothing just waved his white flag and continued screwing around on his wife. Oh those were the good years cant wait for more terror attacks and an old man cheating on his wife in the paper everyday.

Terror Attacks Under the Clinton Administration

Embassy in Tanzania
USS Cole
Trade Center the First time
Khobar Towers

Barb   January 11th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Mr. Roland bringing the race issue into this campaign through (silent words or code) is not a good idea it can only hurt Obama. Go Hillary!!!!

Steven Stevens, Lincoln Park, michigan   January 11th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

hey….non pc…just like a them that do not have anything constructive to say….you ridicule…personally io think that she is a very attractive woman for her 60yrs….and when you gaze upon her photo when you turn 60 you will see a very attractive woman….and when you look backin history to her tems in the precidency you will see tht she is ones smart cookie who was a great president…..

Mark   January 11th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

After hearing many debates and speeches, I have decided to vote for Hillary instead of Obama. She doesn't just tell what she wants to change, she also tells how she is going to make the change in detail. I appreciate her attention to providing the details. Obama is only telling us to believe that change is coming and to have hope, but doesn't tell us what he is going to do to bring this about. Hillary has my vote! Her experience shows through her details.

montana   January 11th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

s williams and george you guys are right on the money , robyn you are to funny. this is comming from a white male, my counterparts seems to have it a lot harder look at jim crow it took years and i mean years for white america to see its lies , but we are still playing that game just behind curtains wake up america a black man can dream and be anything cook,be our mechanics,even our doctors but not president

Blueray98   January 11th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

I’m ready for another Clinton ride in the white house! It’s been almost a year now since Hillary told us all “I’m in, And I’m in to win”. So let’s all help her win by joining her team and strengthening her forces. Hillary has 35 years of experience, and she is ready to lead the first day she returns to the White House. I wouldn’t mind if she chooses Obama as her running mate. Maybe then he’ll get the on-the-job-training that he needs. He might make a decent president in eight years after Hillary has completed her run.

Tom Dedham, Mass   January 11th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Now that Sir Edmund Hillary has died can she EXPLAIN how she was named after him, when at the time of her birth he was a lowly beekeeper?

Can she explain to lower and middle income black voters what she meant by demeaning what MLK did in regards ti Civil rights while trumpeting President Johnson instead and why did a spokesman have to come out and simply SPEAK FOR HER, by saying she mispoke?

Can she explain why her hubby is again SPEAKING FOR HER by calling Obama KID and calling his campaign a fairy tale?

Is she going to apologize or EXPLAIN what Cuomo meant by you can't just "schuck and jive" up there.

A certain pattern that is typical of Clinton, buzz words or code words and using surrogates to do the dirty work.

Just figured while she was explaining other things………………………..

Bill Culver, Covington,LA   January 11th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

A vote for Hillary, Obama or Edwards is an act of stupidity and a reflection on the intelectual quality of the votwers education.

LucieLee   January 11th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

To Danny from Boca,
So I suppose being married to a president is the best qualification you can come up with for Hillary to be the next one? Get real man……I guess Florida's 27 electoral votes goes Republican once again…..cause Hillary will get all the Republicans to go to the polls……..

QuietStormX   January 11th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Excuse ME! Barack Obama was the FIRST to call for "CHANGE". Now everyone is using the word change…………..

~~~~~~ Barack Obama~~~~~~

Check out his website!

Jr., California   January 11th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

THANK YOU ROLAND MARTIN A MILLION TIMES FOR THIS ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I have been asking in the blogs for 4 days!!!! What is this 35 years of experience thing? I simply can't get past this kind of claim; therefore, I must not vote for a liar.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   January 11th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

When are these candidates going to stop bragging about experience. The Bush administration redefined the meaning of experience and look at the national and international mess we are in. I wonder when we're going to look at I.Q.'s to be the determining factor because some of this mud slinging is below my I.Q.

Greg OH   January 11th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

So change equals working for Walmart? Change equals name calling the opponent? Change equal playing a southern Strategy?

Bill's slip of the tongue was no slip, it's what the campaign tells foreign reporters.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2238148,00.html

In this piece they call Obama
"" She is staking out policy ground slightly to the left of Obama on domestic issues, and noticeably won the votes of those on lower incomes and without college degrees. In the words of that Clinton adviser: "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool.""

One more thing there is a 22nd Amendment means 2 terms only that's it. No do overs.-NAFTA the reapal of Glass STeagall, and others.

So what did she do while Clinton was president? Why won't she tell us, can anyone tell me?

Jimenez   January 11th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Monte Brown, New York, NY January 11, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Roland Martin is an example of the media that is biased in favor of Obama. Mr. Martin, just because you are black does not mean you have to play the same games the Obama campaign is playing. Let the two candidates fight this out with the issues. The media and the demagogues are helping Obama in the public opinion arena because the media and the Obama supporters know that they can’t beat Hillary on the issues.

Roland Martin is turning CNN into Fox News. Even Lou Dobbs has eased up on his criticism of Hillary Clinton. Roland Martin, just admit it. You only support Barack Obama because you are elated with the idea of a black president. The good thing is that Americans are not going to be fooled by the demagogues. We are not in a position to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

Good to hear from Monte Brown. We just love reading your comments. You speak the truth and you speak it well. God Bless you Monte Brown.

Suresh   January 11th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I agree with Roland. He has clearly defined and articulated the issue between Obama and hillary Clinton.
Obama supporters and Campaign managers - Please take notice.

Don't let the Hillary team define them and you and confuse the electorate. Make sure people associate CHANGE and OBAMA.

Clinton team is trying to muddy this differentiation and repeat this over and over again.

Did anyone watch James Carville and David Axelrod in CNN. Carville was trying to chew David thnking he is an opponent. -

Can we all not get Along - remember the phrase.
James, Grow up and respect the other party members.

I was a supporter of your candidate Bill Clinton and voted for him.
TIME for change is here and it's OBAMA

Susan Norton   January 11th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

When Bill Clinton was President, Hillary was a very active First Lady. Don't you remember how they both got slammed because Hillary was working on a national health care plan? She also traveled all over the world and meant and consulted with leaders of other countries. Did you know that she was personally involved in discussions in Ireland between the IRA and the protestants? Hillary has been politically active in the democratic party for many, many years.

I know a lot more about Hillary than I do about Barack, particularly about her public and private life–sometimes more than I want to know, but it is all out there.

I have a lot of questions about Barack and the depth of his knowledge, ability to work within a large organization, etc. I can see him as a motivational speaker, but I can't see him as a president at this time.

James, American in Paris   January 11th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

I support Hillary Clinton and will continue to do so until she is elected President of our country. I have no reservations about her nor her husband. On the contrary they have both worked hard to improve life for the everyday American. In the 90's we knew good economic conditions and we were at peace. Hillary Clinton was the leader of the Social Security renovation at that time that was blocked by a Republican majority in congress and thus never implimented. She has fought hard in politics and has proven herself. To be President you must be tough and know how to stand up for yourself, your ideas and your country. I say we need her for long overdue social change that she has already worked for and will deliver. Well known and admired around the world, she could be our best ambassador aboad at a time when America is most in need of it.

fish   January 11th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I just finished watching a rally by Hillary Clinton in Los Angeles. I also watched one with Barack Obama & John Edwards in New Hampshire. What a huge differences.

Hillary gave breif opening remarks then went into question and answer mode. You could clear figure out where she stood — unscripted and unplugged. I liked that - you felt connected.

Barack talks and talks about hope - gives you the definition of hope but doesn't say what he'll do and I am not sure he understands the issues facing America. I didn't get a clear picture from him.

John Edwards just seems angry. He says he has the passion and the fight. I think all 3 candidates have those same qualities. He talks about his family being dirt poor. HRC and BHO didn't come from wealthy families - they came from struggling middle class families.

I know we have huge problems facing us — and I can say — living in CA this primary is going to be a battle. While I will continue to watch over the next couple weeks and listen — it looks as if HRC is a front runner to be able to solve our problems.

8 years vs 11 years
35 years vs 15 years

Are you bright enough to understand and comprehend the Presidency? Saturday night's question on Pakistan — look at the responses from all 3 candidates. Listen to them w/o judgement. In my opinion HRC clearly understood the consequences.

Phil Kessack   January 11th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

If Hillary reports her taxes the way she reports her resume, O.J. may soon have a roommate!

Phil Kessack   January 11th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Hillary has created a new psudo-definition of "experience." She now claims that she has eight years of White House experience. So does their cat "Sox" on that measure. Just because she was married to someone does not mean that she had had to make the tough executive analysis and decisions as the President. And her world travels at taxpayer's expense as First Lady does not mean that she has the diplomatic experience required for dealing with foreign affairs at the Government level. Riding an elephant in Africa on a public-paid tour hardly qualifies as "foreign relations" experience in a world of natural disasters and terrorists..

Nord   January 11th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

When Bill Clinton was in the White House, I always thought CNN stood for "Clinton News Network". Your reporters were always positive about the Clinton's and for the past 8 years you have done nothing but go after Bush in a negative way. FOX is the Bush's/Republicans Network and now it looks like both CNN along with NBC have made a joint decision to to make it your business to go ANTI-HILLARY. FOX will alway be the PRO- Republican not even worth watching anymore. I have a suggestion for you…your new motto should be "CNN your Unfair, Unbalanced and Uninformed Network".

Scott, Madison, WI   January 11th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

More of Hillary inflating her resume after stealing the change message and claiming it as her own. We already have someone in office who does "fuzzy math".
When can we ever expect a straight answer from this woman on anything? triangulate, calculate, exaggerate!

Don't worry Hillary, the truth about you will always be revealed sooner or later.
Some people were out "rolling up their sleeves" (Before you claimed that one, too!)s" and actually doing the work rather than just talking about it and lining their pockets with big money.

We've already seen the experience card played too many times, and in my book ,it plays about as authentically as the fear card.

Yolanda, South Carolina   January 11th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Again the witch hunt continues…….you would think we are living in the middle ages or in a muslim country where women are attacked and kept down.

Mr. Martin everyone knows that you are a mouth piece for your boy Barack Hussein Obama. You have gone on tv over and over and over again promoting Obama that is not a secret, we have seen it. ( I actlauuy recorded it) You can't even cover up your pro Obama stance. You know why you are doing this.. you wnat to make this in to a race issue. Shame on you.
And CNN if you are going to give a mouth piece to agents of Barack Hussein Obama machine then pls allow the other candidates to do the same.

Elisa Hart   January 11th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I just can't believe that Hillary is so transparent and people believe this, especially women. And why is the news media reporting this, it means nothing!? Hillary was confronted with her not showing emotion in the debate before the NH vote, then she goes to some dinner with mostly women and put on the preformance of her life and NH fell for it. First, I think the question was staged by Hillary and her response was laughable, not even a tear, just put on a little act of acting like she was going to cry and everybody thinks she is so sincere. Oh please, what a bunch of bull!!! But this seems to be the way of the people go the the candidates emotions, looks and personality, not on the issues. I have to give it to Hillary this time, it did work. Why can't the media report on what every candidate stands for and not the horserace and the sunts that the candidates pull. I hate this part of politics just give me the facts. With Hillary it is just politics as usual!!!!!

wale azeez   January 11th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Maeve January 11, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Should we subtract from Obama's years of experience all the times he took a pass on votes in Illinois?

What was he doing while he was not voting, by the way? Was he out working for "change"…being hopeful…what?:

You are ways behind on the political scenery…I enjoin you to get fact checks to mud slinging…it helps you better make rational decisions. It has been said time and again the the present vote allows senators to stay out of issues they don't have enough time or info to vote on…so what if he voted neutral…the party leaders are staying neutral on endorsements…does that make them lazy too…?

Cindy, Maryland   January 11th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Roland Martin:

You are a political strategist for the Obama Camp aren't you? At least have the decency to make it public and stop claiming or pretending to be objective we all know who you are supporting!!! This is for the CNN analsyt

Aidyn   January 11th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Hillary is totally right on this one.

Michael in CA   January 11th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I agree, I have been a die-hard CNN fan, but their attacks on Hillary are getting out of hand. Also, as someone pointed out earlier, that when Hillary gets an endorsement it very little publicity is paid to it. However, when Obama gets one it's front page news, where is the fair and balanced? Experience does matter, but as a caveot I'd like to say experience from someone who has taken stances (whether popular or not) and someone who has a proven record. Just a quick search on the government site that tracks Congreessioanl activities, indicates that Obama's voting record in the US Senate was rated as "Very Poor relative to peers." He has missed 16% of things up for voting on. Hillary on the other hand has missed 6% of all the things the Sentae was voting on, her rating is "Average relative to peers."

I agree that we need to look at the records of experience. Hillary as taken stands while Obama has voted "present" in the IL chambers. Humm, I wonder if we will do the same as president. Also, as was pointed out during the debate, his record of change isn't too spectacular. Going to DC against the Patriot Act and th war yet voting for both once in the chambers. Obama can move crowds and bring people to tears, but what is behind those words?? I don't hear anything but Yes We Can do it, but how??

Hillary you've got my vote! You go GIRL!

Matthew Raleigh   January 11th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Barak's biggest need right now is a better PR person - someone who knows how to make the right kind of ads that will boost his past successes. Hope and change are great messages but he needs to firm this up with actual evidence.

Boss Dawg   January 11th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

TooRich -

Are you web campaigning for the Hillary Clinton Camp - Just how much money did that whining B Hillary pay you; With a name like TooRich you should be pumping a republican - You sound like a sugar pants to me, E-A-D-B !

Brian   January 11th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Bill Clinton has much more experience than Barack Obama. Who do we want for president. Bill Clinton, who already has two terms under his belt. Or Barack Obama, only 8 years as a state Senator and 1 term as a US Senator?

Vote for Bill, a third term for Clinton is what we need.
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Is this race about Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton. If Bill was not elected then we wouldn't have known he was an asset for this country and we wouldn't know what he could have done. Now it is time to give someone else a chance and that is what I am looking for. I am voting for Barack Obama to give him a chance just like we did with Bill Clinton. For Hillary, she has been too plastic for me to believe her!

prophecy for change   January 11th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

well, between obama and hillary clinton the choice is clear. you can vote for bill who thinks preventing genocide or helping out to stop it does not have any american interest. ok. the problem is the survivors can easily be turned into suicide bombers. again, it's clear that people who want president hillary really mean bill clinton. however, i think that is unconstitutional. ain't it? because there are only two terms at most for any president.
a bon entendeur, salut!

j   January 11th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Hey CNN… why do my comments always take forever to get moderated? Why are my comments being deleted from these threads? Freedom of Speech?

John   January 11th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Well, at least we know he wasn't out there voting for the Iraq war when he knew it was wrong just so he could run for president in 2008.

Who would do that . . . ?

Rus, Whitburn   January 11th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

The ‘change’ that may be possible with Obama is not the routine promotion of the public good that most politicians claim as their vocation. It’s about vision and his ability to unite and inspire. Words do matter. Churchill inspired a nation to resist against tremendous odds with a speech about fighting on the beaches. Martin Luther King’s words remain undiminished in their ability to inspire. Whatever change Hillary Clinton may have been promoting at 25, 35 years ago, it isn’t the same thing. Obama has been a foot soldier promoting the public good since he was 24, but what he has now is different – an ability to bring people together with a common goal. Here are his words after winning in Iowa.

"Hope is what led a band of colonists to rise up against an empire; what led the greatest of generations to free a continent and heal a nation; what led young men and women to sit at lunch counters and brave fire hoses and march through Selma and Montgomery for freedom's cause.”

"Hope is what led me here today — with a father from Kenya, a mother from Kansas and a story that could only happen in the United States of America. It is the bedrock of this nation: the belief that our destiny will not be written for us, but by us; by all those men and women who are not content to settle for the world as it is; who have the courage to remake the world as it should be."

wale azeez   January 11th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL
get to the specifics…stop throwing generalities out there…I have volunteered countless times and so have many other americans

wojago   January 11th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

The issue of experiance has been pazziling me for so long, both worked as public servants it shouldnt be taken as distinctive criteria for vote collection, there are lots of imporant areas for person to be the USA president rather than such nugatory issues. If experiannce is really impotant there are many othe people in this governiment who worked their entire life there, just pick one of them and give them nice name, PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA….

Maeve   January 11th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Should we subtract from Obama's years of experience all the times he took a pass on votes in Illinois?

What was he doing while he was not voting, by the way? Was he out working for "change"…being hopeful…what?

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   January 11th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Roxanne,
To say that your comments are dead on is an understatement, Sen. Obama no doubt has great charisma and his speeches are very inspired, but he has failed to point out the experience he has in order to become President of this country. his work as a community organizer no doubt was something that affected him and I believe prepares him for the public service it is not the type of work that will allow him to not only make the tought decisions as president, but to put together the kind of network and cabinet he will need to get things done. Sen. Clinton by far has the most effective record in the U.S. Senate and has a very impressive record at the state and local level where she has had to operate, manage and organize labor, governement and private sectors in order to get things done. She was elected to represent the people of the great state of New York and she has done a remarkable job, she understood that during the time of war you support the president of the United States and voted to give him any and all resources available at the time, 90% of the senate did. This administration botch their chance at history by not vetting the information they so freely distributed around the world. make no mistake she did not made a mistake by casting that choice and Sen. Obama is the last person that can judge that. everyone is a critic, he was not previewed to the same intel and to show everyone hoe INDEPENDET Sen. Clinton is, ask yourself if Pres. Bill Clinton was against the war, wouldn't he had tried to influence his wife to vote different? that vote showed her patriotism and she has nothing to apologize in my view. Experience matters and Sen. Clinton has it, she was increadible in the last debate. That is what won her the state, not the emotion factor the pundints are trying to make themselves believe.

Roxanne, New York   January 11th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

CNN, you have not posted any of my comments these past weeks even though you have posted them in the past and I am certain that they are appropriate.

What? We The People don't get to tell you that we don't believe your spin, Martin and all? You, Martin, MSNBC and FoxNews, birds of a feather?

We the people chose experience, substance over rhetoric, whether you tell us to or not. Do you know why? Because we are smarter than you think we are. Go ahead and hide my post. I have all of them saved. Next, I'll vote.

Tree   January 11th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

kokori

One of the best points I have heard recently, I totally agree.

It's a shame few commenting in this forum knows true leadership or can identify traits of true leader. All pioneers started with a vision, goals, dreams and desires. I employ everyone take a second and research the history of Bill Gates ,Google founders and Dell etc. then read on Obama the similarities of great leaders is frightening.

Kmart and Walmart both started in 1962 one changed with the times the other didn’t.

Roxanne, New York   January 11th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

CNN, you have not posted any of my comments these past weeks even though you have posted them in the past and I am certain that they are appropriate.

What? We The Poople don't get to tell you that we don't believe your spin, Martin and all? You, Martin, MSNBC and FoxNews, birds of a feather?

We the people chose experience, substance of rhetoric, whether you tell us to or not. Do you know why? Because we are smarter than you think we are. Go ahead and hide my post. I have all of them saved.

Al in Wpg   January 11th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Kyle, that was very informative, thank you.

I must say, I find it very funny how many people on here think they're electing Bill.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Bush/Clinton thing is just America regretting having left the british monarchy… think about it. It would also explain the obsession with princes Di, the Queen, the Princes… Hmmm…. Is it possible the Bush's and Clintons are your Kings and Queens?
Et Vous Brutus.

Roland S. Martin   January 11th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

Casey,

I am a CNN Contributor who provides commentary and analysis. I'm also a nationally syndicated columnist.

The job description calls for offering an opinion. That's the point.

Roland S. Martin   January 11th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Geri Ca,

You crack me up. This article lays out a strategy that is working FOR Clinton and AGAINST Obama, and you see it as a positive for Obama? I'm still laughing!

Strategy works. Changes in strategy works. She has gotten away from focusing on her eight years as First Lady and has voters saying she has 35 years of experience. And the fact that the Obama campaign hasn't come up with a way to respond is to her advantage.

And you see that as, in your words, "promoting Obama and slamming Hillary?"

How ludicrous.

TooRich   January 11th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

This is exciting….. CNN finally gets original. The mention of Hillary's name followed by a slam.

Kyle is the epitome of Obama. A blowhard that can't get enough of the sound of his own voice. Blah, Blah Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah

I could care less the crap Obama's spin machine puts on his website. Nor the spin some lame blogger regurgitates. All hail the dull! Celebrate the Slick! Bring on the Bore! Crown the King of I have figured out how to use Congress.org and have seen Obama's dull, pathetic and occasionally assinine voting record.

Robyn   January 11th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

I guess this would support the argument that Hillary would bring more change than Barack??? All you have to do is listen to them both speak and a 3rd grader could tell you that she sounds more knowledgeable than he does.

Jay Graham, Dallas, TX   January 11th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

Whether directly or indirectly, Bill will be a big contributing factor in shaping Hillary's policies if she becomes a president. We have already seen 8 years of prosparity and peace during Bill's presidency. So, America has two choices - go with the proven record of Hillary (with Bill supporting her) or Obama who is an unknown dreamer. The stakes are quite high.

Cave1n   January 11th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

Uttered by Hillary Clinton January 2008—Only the Simpsons could have beat this.

"I want to make change, but I've already made change," she said. "I will continue to make change. I'm not just running on a promise of change. I'm running on 35 years of change."
"The best way to know what change I will produce," she said, summing up, "is to look at the changes I've already made."

clinton hate politics   January 11th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

please. Someone in Congress needs to speak up and scold this family. This post, along with the comments Hillary made about ML King yesterday are enough.

someone please help me parse out the garbage going on here

0. Planted question in Iowa
1. Obama's kindergarden essay
2. Obama's drug use
3. Obams' fairy tale
4. Crying in public
5. Criticizing ML King

some, what have I missed? I would love to take a time series of Obama's %approval rating and annotate it with the Billary Hate attacks. No doubt every time a new high is hit they happen to "say" something.

George from Seattle   January 11th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

What do you tell your children as they grow up in this society, we would love to tell them you can grow up to be anything you want or aspire to be, even President of the United States of America, even if it a dream. But what I heard this day was it is not even good for African American children to even dream because we will not support them in there desires to become something we could only dream about in our day. I've heard over and over different people state how there parents told them they can grow up to be anything they want to be, skies the limit, sad thing for us it seems to be true for our white counterparts. Because if it a person of color it is just a fairytale (according to Bill Clinton give me a break).

kathe Oakland Ca   January 11th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

When it comes to commenting on Hillary I Pass…….. She has been a wife, a governor's wife, a president's wife. So much for experience.

I would like to comment on commentary about black voters in South Carolina when it comes to Obama. I do hope folks in South Carolina pay attention because the writer of commentary and news media are trying to make you folks out to be unintelligent and afraid to fight for rights. They are saying you black voerts may not vote for Obama because you "don't want to waste your vote."???? Wow!!!!! That is a heck of a statement to make about one group of folks who happen to be african americans. I have not seen anyone or any commentary say that about white, hispanic or asian voters. So what are they really trying to do - DISCOURAGE YOU FROM VOTING FOR OBAMA. I hope you all get it in South Carolina. Don't let the rheoric fool you into thinking it is true. It is only true if YOU the african american voters allow it to be. VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WANT, not because they are black, white or whatever but because you feel in your heart, that is the person who can lead our America and allow ALL AMERICANS to be a part of the decisions made for each of us in the USA. And voting for Hillary because she is Bill Clinton's wife?????So what???Bill's time has past, he is history. Afterall, african americans made him loved because we believed he cared about us.
Oh, I am an african american woman.

L. Greenvill   January 11th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

One thing Hillary has not mentioned in her 35 year resume is how much experience she and her former president husband have in the art of lying. She tries to take credit for everything Bill did while in the Whitehouse she might as well admit to all the lies too. I guess it is accepted practice for the president to
stare directly into a tv camera and lie to the people of this country. The current
administration seems to have no problem with it either.

Letha, Sioux Falls, SD   January 11th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

I'm sure my option doesn't matter to Mr Martin but as a good analyst you could have made your comments and then pointed readers to the real truth. Check the official records to judge official records at the Library of Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov/

Go find out which candidate will work for the people of this nation by finding out what they have done in the senate for the last few years. Senator Clinton has "shown" me who works for the people.

Brad, Stockton, CA   January 11th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

OK, so if what you are saying isn't believable, just change it and keep saying something a little different until it begins to become believable. Gosh… I'm sure glad my parents didn't raise me that way.

Hillary will be the democratic mistake, payback for the republican mistake of the entire Bush family.

Martha Spanish Springs, Nevada   January 11th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

Obama may have served more "elected" time than Clinton, but his tenure in the Illinois Legislator was pitiful.

He voted "present" on most issues. That shows me he drifts on the winds of non-committance.

There are many documented incidents where Obama's oratory skills served him well when his lack of specific knowledge was obvious.

The old saying, if you can not dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with BS. As his tenure can generally be described as abysmal, his talking skills were noteworthy.

Even in his 2+ years in the US Senate, Obama did NOT work on ethics reform because he chose to, but rather because he was 'assigned' the task by Harry Reid.

Look into Obama's accomplishments, and you will find that it is more appropriately a duck and cover list of issues that Obama managed successfully avoid.

When the front runners records are compared, there is absouletly no doubt that Senator Clinton is the right choice at this tough time in our history.

Enuf Is Enuf   January 11th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

A stroll down memory lane …. Let's all be sure to vote them back in!

http://prorev.com/legacy.htm

J, Ca   January 11th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

Obama can't auction Democratic party values to so-called independants and republicans. He can appeal to the middle during a general election.
But this is democratic primary.
It's about selecting an agent who reperesents the democratic party.
He has already angered party loyalists by trying to define himself as an independant.
This Cocky -attitude of him that he is better than rest of the democrats is going to hurt him sooner or later.
I have a feeling that he will be punished for this on Feb 5th where most of the voters are democrats.

Seam, Philly PA   January 11th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

Talent is far better than experience. Talent takes us into the future, while experience keeps us in the past.

Obama 08′

Damien   January 11th, 2008 3:25 pm ET

People go to U.S Senate.com see how each candidate voted, on key issues they Obama/Hillary voted the same on all key issues. Hillary is more prone to respond to criticism Obama pretty much doesn’t care what anyone says about him. Hillary has laid down longer with self interest groups no fault of hers she just been in politic longer, but Obama is for removing lobbying on the federal level not the state level.

WARNING if you serve self interest groups how can you serve in the best interest of the American people until these politician get their hands out of these big companies and self interest groups pockets we will continue to suffer. To John Edward’s credit he has never received PAC money. If you voting on experience why you didn’t vote for Richardson he over-whelming had the best resume of all candidates. John Edward by a long shot is the least corrupt. Some of you people making comments need to research and get your facts straight if you’re going to commenting on these tickers are at least trying to make compelling arguments for your person of choice nothing wrong with campaigning for your candidate. Think about this doesn’t it amazes you that during jury selections the lawyers for the state (prosecutions) always target the more educated but the defendant lawyers(s) always target the dumbest. Hillary is constantly defending herself I will do this I can change, it’s not fair, defense lawyers try to win sympathy of the jury by painting how hard a life their defendant had so they will get teary eye and show leniency isn’t the comparison quite striking when you think about it.

Allan   January 11th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

I like Obama but I don't think he is capable of running a country - or at least not yet. The question is, can you really trust someone to run the entire country while he is learning. Don't vote for the candidate just because they have powerful celebrities endorses them. What do these celebrities know? They don't even know how to act/speak w/out a script.
I will vote for Hillary only because the US economy was at it's peak during Bill Clinton's administration. I can careless about his personal affair. I like to see the US economy back to where it was and when the US dollar was worth something. So please, vote for someone who will be right for the job.

roger, conway sc   January 11th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Martin prounced Hillary dead until the NH primaries….I watched him on CNN after the primary and how he gave excuses for his WRONG calculations…Yes this man is a OBAMA supporter & he is very biased….

Connie, Tn.   January 11th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Diane: A vote for Hillary is NOT a vote for Bill Clinton. Even though 60% of the people would like to see him back in office, it's not going to happen. A vote for Hillary is a vote to keep things as they are. Obama is the only one who can bring people together and can work with all nations.

Lucy   January 11th, 2008 3:22 pm ET

Here's an email that's been going around. It makes a good point

In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB for
the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna asserts that she is qualified to be
starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while
he played QB for the Packers. During this period of time she became
familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and is now completely
comfortable with other terminology of the Packers offense. A survey of
Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.

Does this sounds idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton
makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of
democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the
white house, Dick Morris stated "so has the pastry chef".

New York Independent   January 11th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

Senator Clinton Loyalists,
Stop with the nonsense. For the past 8 months, CNN has flacked for Senator Clinton. This sounds similar to her campaign's bashing of the moderators after they forced her to answer a question in the Philly debate. Whining is not becoming of a Presidential movement, but it does remind us of what we'll be given with a 3rd Clinton administration.

Thanks for the informative report Mr. Martin.

Concerned   January 11th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

delegator is absolutely right and well spoken. hilary has only 8 years experience in an elected office. This is an important distinction and something she is not making clear in her new definition of experience.

We did not elect Mrs. Clinton when Bill was elected and you must remember that despite your hope, DIane, Bill is not who you will get in office if you elect hilary. You will get this woman with little experience and who can so easily manipulate the public in office.

Kate   January 11th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

ALL OF YOU DEFENDING HILLARY ANSWER ONE QUESTION: WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES SHE HAVE???? .. SIMPLE RIGHT? AND IF YOU CAN'T THEN ….

Honestly   January 11th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

peach:

Thank you for supporting Obama. His plans for raising the minimum wage and reducing the tax burden on low income Americans shows me he actually wants to head off the class warfare that we are surely heading toward.

Peach, I'm quite certain I earn much more money than you do. I'm perfectly willing to help those less fortunate. Obama is not about giving money to the poor. He is about teaching them how to fish. Don't give fish, give fishing polls. That is what I like about Obama.

kokori   January 11th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

If Obama doesn't respond to this "experience" business, it will hurt his campaign, if not now, definitely later if he wins the nomination. He must address what changes he made given the resources and opportunities he had. He must also point to the kinds of 'changes' Hillary effected as a "privileged' First Lady in relation to the 'changes' she made as Senator or elected officer.

Obama must also make use of Bill Richardson's clever analysis last night: Obama has "good instincts and good judgment." With regards to the all-important issue of Iraq War, this is what separates them by miles. Obama's "good instincts and good judgment" led him to reject the invasion, while Clinton's tedious cold calculations and poor judgment led her in the opposite direction. At a time of crisis or when crisis seems perpetually imminent, what we need is a leader with "good instincts and good judgment."

S Williams, Tampa   January 11th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

You are complaining about Martin telling it like it is????

Well Hillary was being coronated by Wolf Blizter and the rest of the news media for 6 months straight! She was practically forced down our throats.

The Situation Room's Wolf Blizter fawns and sways over Hillary Clinton 4 to 6 hours each day for most of the last year.

Most of the 'analysts' you see on and TV channel are either past Clinton staffers, administators or ex-campaign officials.

I don't hear you complaining about THAT one-sided 'news reporting'.

Hillary's 'crying moment' being played over and over on his show was NO accident, and the results were predicatable by anyone with half a brain. It would solidify the female vote. Any fool knew that would work.

Gbryant   January 11th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Absolutely, CNN is bordering on having a lot of people not tune in and not visit their web site. They are promoting Obama and I do not understand why. People should be able to make up their own mind and not be influenced by the media. If Obama had not had the media to build him up and put his cocky face all over the place and Oprah, we would not even know who the heck he is. We certainly would not know him by his deeds and experience, because there is none.

Go Hillary

FINALLY!   January 11th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Finally, someone expressing what I've been saying for a long time about these two. Hillary and Bill are so good with twisting the truth, while Obama is being far too modest. Unfortunately, though Hillary denies it, words have a lot of power, and Hillary's deceitful words are winning over Obama's clear wisdom.

John New York, NY   January 11th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

James, if Clinton is the more "moderate" one, why is she attacking Barack from the left on health care? She is also attacking him for not being "enthusiastic" enough in his support of partial-birth abortion. Please explain how that is a moderate strategy to win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.

Monte Brown, New York, NY   January 11th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Roland Martin is an example of the media that is biased in favor of Obama. Mr. Martin, just because you are black does not mean you have to play the same games the Obama campaign is playing. Let the two candidates fight this out with the issues. The media and the demagogues are helping Obama in the public opinion arena because the media and the Obama supporters know that they can’t beat Hillary on the issues.

Roland Martin is turning CNN into Fox News. Even Lou Dobbs has eased up on his criticism of Hillary Clinton. Roland Martin, just admit it. You only support Barack Obama because you are elated with the idea of a black president. The good thing is that Americans are not going to be fooled by the demagogues. We are not in a position to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

New York Independent   January 11th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time…

For someone who was slamming her opponent last weekend for being more "rhetoric, not reality," Senator Clinton's claims about "experience creating change," are galling.

What did she DO in the White House? We don't know, she won't release her records
What change did SHE ACCOMPLISH in the White House? She says she fought for Healthcare.

I'd rather vote for a leader who may only have 10 years of legislative experience but who doesn't try to "enhance" his resume than someone who, to put it kindly, spins more than she inspires.

This may catch on, but only with those who are blind followers or who have reasons for voting for Senator Clinton other than her veracity and candor.

Dre   January 11th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Thank you Kyle for posting the facts about Barack's experience for all the non-believers to see. Also, many of you are dead on with interpreting Clinton's manipulation scheme for what it is. I do agree, with you that Obama must eventually respond to Clinton's attacks, however, I also understand his reasons for ignoring their insinuations. For if Barack appears on the offensive, "white" America (the media) will portray it as an attack from a black man on a white women. Just as they, saw him attacking Hilary in the debate when the comments were coming from Edwards. He is facing alot of unwarranted opposition, but he still has been able to keep me "fired up" about his chances.

God Bless America and Barack Obama!

Ron, TX   January 11th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

So Obama has "27 years of experience" and Clinton has "35 years of experience"… 8 years is no big deal when you're talking about that large of a timeframe.

It's especially no big deal, because Clinton has shown that her judgment is compromised. She voted for the Iraq War and refuses to admit it was a mistake. She then failed MISERABLY in 1993 and 94 to get health care passed.

Versus Obama, who described exactly what is happening in Iraq right now, overspending, bogged down, strengthening hatred of America…

And everyone called Obama naive and inexperienced when he was talking about Pakistan in August, and now, all of a sudden, Clinton and Edwards were -agreeing- with him at the New Hampshire debate. He didn't look so naive when he got THAT ONE right, too…

Hindsight is 20/20. It's about time we elect a President with FORESIGHT!

Roxanne, New York   January 11th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

So now it's CNN joining MSNBC and Fox in piling on. Funny. They never cater for we the people and we the people it seems, would have to keep marching to keep demonstrating what democracy is all about, it's only about WE THE PEOPLE!

Hillary does not need to define experiece, Barack needs to show that his quick and hasty foot in and out of the Illinois Senate and Capital Hill qualifies him to be president.

He skipped a lot of classes, no doubt about that while Hillary spent the time and paid her dues. Give it up Martin. You're transparent. We the people are smart, in fact, you have no idea!

BTW, I am a proud Black woman and I approve Hillary Rodham Clinton for president!

yellowdog   January 11th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

To peach—-

Hey will Roland (as an official supporter of Obama) be signing up his neighborhood to become one of the mixed-income neighborhoods? I doubt it. Just like me, Roland has worked for everything he has- he doesn't want to be around the crime, graffiti, loud noise, and baby mamma drama that plague's the dysfunctional culture of poverty.

James   January 11th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Geri, how is it slamming Obama? Every Clinton supporter keeps saying this and I'm going to keep saying it doesn't make sense. If we REALLY follow that definition of experience then let's just say that Clinton has 35 years versus Obama's 27. Does that make more sense?

peach   January 11th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

With policies like these that pander to "the poor" Obama is guaranteed to lose the electoral college in the general election.

Newsflash Roland and Barack- it's the middle class that vote and we are sick and tired of working for everything we have and the watching it given to lazy people. Everyone goes to high school in America- do you work hard so you can go to college or do mess around and treat it like a playground.

Clinton is a moderate and can win the electoral college

From Obama's official website:
Create a Living Wage: Obama will raise the minimum wage and index it to inflation to make sure that full-time workers can earn a living wage that allows them to raise their families and pay for basic needs such as food, transportation, and housing.

Tax Relief for Low-Income Working Families: Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.

Create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund: Obama will create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund to develop affordable housing in mixed-income neighborhoods.

Casey, Minneapolis, MN   January 11th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Mr. Martin - Do you work for the Obama campaign? This article is nothing more than a sad attempt to "analyze" the strategies. All you have done is plug Obama - I think it perhaps best to let the respective campaigns list their qualifications and decide what they are going to tell people. You just report it. Thanks.

I have always been a die hard CNN supporter. I must say, I'm becoming a little dissappointed these days.

David S., Chicago, IL   January 11th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

She'd like us to believe the 35 years…but I don't get her - I'll give her time in office and prorate her First Lady status in the 90's - but that is it. Ron, if most people were to actually ever perform some community organizing; and at the socio-economic level Barack was doing it, you'd understand why he'd be a great President. Community organizing involves great listening, great understanding, the ability to generate ideas and empower people, unconditional caring, and real leadership. It is the most challenging skill of someone who wishes to do public service - and the most rewarding.

mike   January 11th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

why would anyone in their right mind vote for hillary?
why are Americans wanting our country to be ran by two elite families for so long?

James Sloh   January 11th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

so clinton doesn't have much experience than obama.
obama has 11 years experience and hillary clinton has10 years of experience.
she represent change. she been elected two time as a u.s. senator that all.

Geri Ca   January 11th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

When I first spotted this article I thought it was a legitimate reporting of changing campaign strategies. But as I read it, I discovered that it is another CNN so-called "Analyst's" opinion, promoting Obama and slamming Hillary. What is with CNN? What happened to "fair and balanced" news? Oh, that's right, that's on the FOX Noise station.

Diane   January 11th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

Bill Clinton has much more experience than Barack Obama. Who do we want for president. Bill Clinton, who already has two terms under his belt. Or Barack Obama, only 8 years as a state Senator and 1 term as a US Senator?

Vote for Bill, a third term for Clinton is what we need.

larry buchas, new britain, ct   January 11th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Too bad for her the inexperienced Obama predicted exactly what would occur in Iraq before we invaded. He has much more to offer, judging from his October 26, 2002 speech. His insight is astounding!

KYLE   January 11th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

This is the official thread to showcase Senator Barack Obama's experience

COMMUNITY ORGANIZER - 1985 - 1988

In 1985, freshly graduated from Columbia University and working for a New York business consultant, Barack Obama decided to become a community organizer. Though he liked the idea, he didn't understand what the job involved, and his inquiries turned up few opportunities.

Then he got a call from Jerry Kellman, an organizer working on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings. Kellman was looking for an organizer for the new Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would focus on black city neighborhoods.

Obama, only 24, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive," and they quickly hired him, at $13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car–a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods. He organized steel workers that that lost their jobs after the steel plants closed, running job training, and education services, he also ran a group called project vote where they registered 150,000 new voters.

CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY - 1991 - 1996

Attorney Judson Miner called Harvard to offer a job to a graduating student named Barack Obama and didn't expect to be showered with gratitude. Still, he wasn't expecting the reception he got. "You can leave your name and take a number," the woman who answered the phone at the Harvard Law Review said breezily. "You're No. 647″
As the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama had his pick of top law firms. He chose Miner's Chicago civil rights firm, where he represented community organizers, discrimination victims and black voters trying to force a redrawing of city ward boundaries.

"It's a real do-good firm," says Fay Clayton, lead counsel for the National Organization for Women in a landmark lawsuit aimed at stopping abortion clinic violence. "Barack and that firm were a perfect fit. He wasn't going to make as much money there as he would at a LaSalle Street firm or in New York, but money was never Barack's first priority anyway."

The firm offered another advantage to Obama. It was close to the political action.

Miner was Chicago's corporation counsel under Harold Washington, the city's first black mayor, in the 1980s when Washington was battling for control of the City Council against remnants of the once-mighty Machine.

Miner introduced Obama to a number of people in politics. Obama already knew many others, having worked as an organizer in the black community before he entered law school.

Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters.

A federal court ordered the state to implement the law.

Obama also wrote a major portion of an appeals brief on behalf of a whistleblower who exposed waste and corruption in a research project involving Cook County Hospital and the Hektoen Institute for Medical Research and alleged that she was fired in retaliation.

The case was settled out of court. The county agreed to pay the federal government $5 million, part of which went to the whistleblower, Dr. Janet Chandler. Hektoen agreed to pay $500,000 to the government plus $170,000 to Chandler for wrongful termination.

And Obama was part of a team of lawyers representing black voters and aldermen that forced Chicago to redraw ward boundaries that the City Council drew up after the 1990 census. They said the boundaries were discriminatory.

After an appeals court ruled the map violated the federal Voting Rights Act, attorneys for both sides drew up a new set of ward boundaries.

Public records at the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission — which handles ethical questions concerning the state's lawyers — indicate there were no complaints against attorney Obama.

Obama's legal work fell off sharply in 1997 after his election to the Illinois Senate.

"On his second day down in Springfield he called me and said, 'Don't pay me — this is a full-time job,'" Miner recalls.

Obama agreed to work for the firm in summer when the legislature was out of session. His law license became inactive in 2002 as politics took over.

Illinois State Senator - 1996 - 2004

Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.

This seemed likely to stop the beatings, but the bill itself aroused immediate opposition. There were Republicans who were automatically tough on crime and Democrats who feared being thought soft on crime. There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument. Vigorous opposit