January 13, 2008
Posted: 02:30 PM ET
 Clinton mingles with church-goers after services at the Northminster Presbyterian Church.
Clinton mingles with church-goers after services at the Northminster Presbyterian Church.

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – Hours after Democrat Hillary Clinton was sharply critical of rival Barack Obama in an interview on NBC's Meet The Press, the New York senator struck a different tone on his candidacy in a predominantly African-American church in South Carolina.

"Probably many of us thought we would never see the day when an African-American and a woman were competing for the presidency of the United States," Clinton said at the Northminster Presbyterian Church in Columbia. "I am so proud of my party I am so proud of my country and I am so proud of Sen. Barack Obama, because together we have presented our cases to the people."

"I am standing here, Senator Obama stands before you as a result of the generations of men and women who protested and picketed, faced dogs and tear gas," she continued. "Who were beaten and jailed who had night sticks crush their skulls. Some who lost their very lives. They risked their lives because they looked into the eyes of their children and saw the promise of a better future. We stand here today because of their sacrifice."

Clinton's comments followed her hour-long appearance on Meet The Press, in which she accused Obama's campaign of distorting remarks that she and her husband have made in recent days which touched off concerns among some African-American voters. Obama later rejected Clinton's complaints as "ludicrous."

Both Democrats are in a heated fight for the support of black voters, particularly in the South Carolina Democratic primary on January 26.

– CNN's Sasha Johnson and Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • South Carolina


CAR   January 31st, 2008 8:31 pm ET

Man she knows what she is talking about! Can we handle another president who doesn't know what is going on?

carlo   January 29th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Americans in the southern states should wise up and stop being racists.Obama shall be President.

Dante   January 29th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

I dare compare Obama to Kennedy or Reagan.American Presidents over the years,have lacked the ability to be good communicators and idealists.Obama is both.But William Jefferson Clinton still remains the best President since Thomas "Woodrow" Wilson.Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have ideas and look presidential,but the republicans are as usual without ideas,boring and very unpresidential.Lest I forget,am a clean shaven conservative man.

rodger   January 24th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

there is a question that should be asked of all canidates. what do you see in the future for the people who made it possible to run for president, the veterans of the past,present, and future veterans of the united states of america.

thanks rodger

Disappointed reader in Ireland   January 15th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

Normally I don't engage in blogging but I'm finding these forums extremely interesting right now. Outside the US, coverage of US politics is sparse, so the internet is a useful tool in terms of trying to understand US public opinion.

Several things are clear:
* Americans have now got wise to Dubya and the GOP - that's a superb starting point!
* A change of direction for America is crucial
* Public opinion is deeply divided in terms of where America's new direction should take her and who should be steering the ship. Again, that's good - it shows that the American public is more politically aware/astute than in 2000 and 2004. People are no longer swallowing every line of codswallop dished up by self-serving politicians.
* Voter turnout is increasing with every election. This indicates an historic change in American politics. People whom had probably never considered voting before now realise that political participation is CRUCIAL to their wellbeing. Real political influence is being reclaimed by the ever increasing electorate and being taken out of the hands of self-serving politicians.

However, Americans seem to be missing a few points that others whom are not directly involved in the situation can see.
* Several times on this blog I have read that America is "the most powerful country in the world". This is no longer true. The Bush administration has sacrificed America's global credibility and much of the international community now considers America to be arrogant with a hugely inflated sense of its own importance. Without the respect that it once had in the international community America has lost much of its power and influence. America is no longer the most powerful nation in the world.
* America is in bad shape right now! The Bush administration's behaviour has isolated her from her old allies and many people outside the US hold the American people directly responsible for the war in Iraq and rocketing oil prices. After all, issues such as these are a by-product of the Bush presidency - and it was the American people who choose to elect him tooffice. America is financially bereft with a multi-billion dollar budget deficit, high unemployment - and she's teetering on the edge of a recession too.
* Americans now talk of the need for "change". The American people - not politicians - must ultimately identify what needs to be changed and how it should be done,and then vote for the candidate whom can best deliver those aspirations. This can only happen if people are honest with themselves. It takes a lot of soul-searching and ultimately some personal sacrifices. If you do this you may just find that the candidate whom is most likely to be deliver on your hopes is the one whom you had initially refuted. You may just surprise yourself.

Politics is not a game.

Leslie, SC   January 15th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

What is funny is that people on here slam the Clintons as some kind of disgusting people, and for one, Bill is the most popular president in my lifetime since Ronald Reagan. If he could run right now, he'd blow every Republican candidate right out of the water. AND, Hillary, no matter how much stuff you hateful people sling at her and have slung at her for 16+ years, she's still standing strong, and is favored by most Americans over ALL the candidates to be our next President. So, by all accounts, both of them are loved and admired by MANY MANY Americans. In FACT, Hillary is America's "Most Admired Woman" this year.

Margaret   January 15th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

Why does Hilary Clinton want to go back to the White House? I would run away from the White House when I remember the scandal Does she want to say she doesn't care because of power?

BP   January 15th, 2008 10:36 am ET

It's amazing how many people out there continue to support the Clintons as if they've done something so spectacular for our country. Oh, he balanced the budget; it's a mute point now that we're in a deficit. I can't think of anything else Clinton's have done besides filtrated the media outlets with there failed Health Care plans, sex scandals and let's not forget he was almost impeached. It time for the Clinton's to exit stage left and let some new blood have a stake at transforming our country. As the saying goes, "you can't teach old dog new tricks". And Hillary sure is heck is not interested in changing nothing but political parties.

America need now move than every a President who's honest and will try to put our country back on a pathway towards finally getting something done in Washington. We can't tolerate another Presidential candidate whose hidden agenda is to just occupy the White House and tries to feed us manure policies.

Scotty P   January 15th, 2008 12:00 am ET

I'm not a republican but all the democrats in this post are so full of hate and back stabbing I feel like I'm in some sort of sowing circle. What's the flavor of the week Dummycraps, Hitlery or Osamba? PLEASE SOME 3rd PARTY RISE UP! Ron Paul needs to run as a Libertarian, drop the republican hacks and save this country. We as a people need to understand too that we can always hand write our ballots and don't have to eat what's being served from either party. Freedom of choice is all we got.

Amos _ Mnpls   January 14th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Oh Clintons!!!! Oh Clintons!! This country does not belong to the Royal Clintons!!
Wake up democrats. If she wins the nominations, then we have lost the presidency, McCain wll be in.

Jeff, San Antonio, TX   January 14th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

If Jessie is for Obama then I have to vote for Hillary!

I can not support someone with "all black all the time" views…and I am not voting for anyone with a name that they are not proud to display out front—-his name is Hussein Obama.

I have taken the time to look past the clean and fresh image and research his church and what it stands for….not pretty.

My prediction is that at some point in the very near future someone is going to disclose the truth on this smooth character…..and he'll fade from view.

andy   January 14th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

Im Latino in california and my friends , brothers , sisters, cousin, aunts , uncles and I will support Mr. Clinton. why you ask ? It seems that Mr. Obama spoke about what his thoughts where on Illegal immigration which offended a lot of latinos ! We are not just people that are illegal immigrants and mexican american we are people who have very strong family values and when people speak of my brothers and sister and family as if they are criminals ! It brings back memories of how they wanted to deny are children anything in the state of california if they where undocumented! so latinos will go with Mr. Clinton at least we trust her because she has already spoke out in public about the immigration issue! and pro-postion 187 is still so fresh in mexican americans minds in california ! Oh check the exit polls and you will see why that prop past and who helped pass it !

Viet Vet battle ground WA   January 14th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Hillary, did you ever toke on a joint? Did you inhale?

Edwards '08

David Linger   January 14th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

I do not understand how much more proof it will take for black to wake up.

Brian Soe   January 14th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

If Hillary did not praise Obama then Hillary haters will say she is all about winning.But when she does so, then her haters will again accuse her of another. Give her a break. Be decent!!

Margaret D   January 14th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

I'm tired of Obama playing the *Race* card just like Oprah does in her program. They always reversed what they said and at the end it makes them look like the *victims* give it up!! sick and tired of the race game,
I"m spanish and i never play the race game, because it will demostrated the person has no *class* .And no self confidence of who they are or where they belong. Diminishing their heritage.
I'm an independent and right now my vote will go either for Huckabee or Senator Clinton. I will decide November 2008.

Lee Chang, Surrey, Canada   January 14th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Americans: its good to dream, but you dont want a country to be dreamers, otherwise America will be a dreamers' land not a dreamland. Meaning, you must elect a President who is a dreamer with substance - like Hilary, not a dreamer without substance - like Obama. Good luck America, with your choice.
Lee Chang

Bill, Manhattan, NYC   January 14th, 2008 12:39 pm ET

Oh my, Clinton is going to be elected by women and those we are married to. Talk about strange bed fellows!

jerome thailing   January 14th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

Hi Lou Dobbs, I enjoy your commentary and your presence. I applaud you for your candor in especially two areas. You call it like like it is on immigration issue and call illegals as ALIENS, not immigrants. You also call the peoples republic RED China as it really is. Again thank you…Jerome in Arizona

Jr., California   January 14th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Please, Hillary, ……. please.

RuthieM   January 14th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Who is she his mama? Gee, thanks, Hillary, you are 'so proud of Obama'. You know, this condescension towards blacks really needs to stop. Maybe the Clinton's really don't know what they sound like when certain words come out of their mouths but somebody needs to tell them to stop while they're ahead. If it's not too late. She even did the same thing among the Hispanics the other day when she compared their situation or something to 'guacamole and chips'? Oh brother!

Sharon   January 14th, 2008 11:11 am ET

She's so proud of Sen. Obama for exhibiting courage and determination in the face of the Clinton Attack Machine? Typical phony Clintonian nonsense. Will this country ever be ready to turn the page on the Bush/Clinton era of infighting and inadequacy?

Chris, Middletown, CT   January 14th, 2008 10:58 am ET

Anon-

There comes a point and time where "the same players equal the same result"

Clinton stated this campaign with standard "Clinton speak" - basically answering questions like Bill - with non answers….(look at her answer to supporting the Gov of NY licensing of illegal aliens…."I support the Gov" - then pressed you "support licensing illegal aliens?" - "no, but I support the Governors actions and would do the same thing" - "so…you support giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens?" - "no"

Replay the Univeral Healthcare v1 - (and nothing has changed for v2) - taxes will be raised - to as much as 50% (like they pay in Canada) - for a sub par healthcare system….this is why Bill Clinton - with support of this - lost the Democrats control of the house and senate for decades….the plan is Saul Alinskys plan from Hillarys youth….Saul was a Marix btw (read up my friend)

anon middle america   January 14th, 2008 10:45 am ET

"The reason we did not get Universal Health Care during the Clinton administration was because of Hillary and her actions toward many people at that time. I can not see how she has changed any of her tactics to get what she wants."

^^^^^^^^^^^ NO ANNIE the reason you didn't get Universal Health Care during the Clinton years is because the GOP and Newt Gingrich personally engineered its demise!!

"After Bill Clinton became president in 1993, Gingrich, then a Republican congressman from Georgia, orchestrated the defeat of one the new Democratic administration’s signature initiatives: a universal health care plan led by Hillary Clinton."

Does anyone have a clue what they are bashing Hillary for or are they all just the usual same old same old run of the mill hillaryhaters :( who leave goey slug trails of copy-paste everywhere they go??

HOWEVER GOTTA LOVE YOUTH VOTER USA = Youth Voter, USA January 13, 2008 6:18 pm ET
What it means to be a youth in USA!

Years of national public service = washington politics.
2 years of national public service = not washington politics

Obama tells me change is new, I agree (not knowing every election Presidential politicians talk about change and nothing changes).

Obama tells me to hope so i start hoping.

Obama tells me to change, so I change my parents since they are past and status quo.

My friends (fellow Obama supporters) tell me to repeat Hillary hate posts 100 times a day, so I do it. It's a change from my other work.

Obama tells me to convince my other immature youth friends to cheer for change, I do it.

Obama tells me to ignore experience, so I ignore my parents experience of knowing the world as again, they are past and status quo.

I ignore every old person who was served nationally as they are status quo. Your national service doesnt count in the new world of hatred filled starry eyed fairy tale following youths like me.

:) FINALLY A YOUTH WHO DIDN'T WASTE HIS EDUCATION

Frank, Waverly, NY   January 14th, 2008 10:43 am ET

I think I am going to throw up!

danielo   January 14th, 2008 10:35 am ET

Why does Clinton keep raising the issue of a woman and black running for presidency and trying to drag Obama into it. We all know that Barack is not running because he's black or to make history and thats why he has consistently not talked gender or race as his strengths.
Hillary is running largely to be the first woman president, a legitimate reason. Its just wrong for her to push up the race and gender card and then accuse Obama of bringing up these issues when Obama responds to her attacks.

anon middle america   January 14th, 2008 10:10 am ET

Bethy - In fact Obama stole McCain's campaign slogan "Straight Talk" when he got to NH. How lame is that??

McCain has ALWAYS used that phrase and his bus is even called the "Straight Talk Express". Then along comes Obama and starts using it in NH and NOW even is using it in an ad airing in CA = In “Quiet,” Obama points to oil as both an environmental and a national security issue, and stresses his STRAIGHT TALKING credentials. (How new and refreshing NOT

So far he's channeled MLK and now Cesar Chavez "Si se puede - Yes we can"

Who is he going to channel next Confucius ;) He certainly is a chameleon that's for sure. Never a dull moment!!

Jim, Columbus, OH   January 14th, 2008 9:53 am ET

She must be proud that Obama's campaign, like hers, takes bundles of lobbyist cash to finance political activities and leaves voters' interests out of the equation. A vote for Clinton or Obama is like a vote for the Republicans….Way to go….

Nancy   January 14th, 2008 9:04 am ET

Yes, haven't you been listening to the news and the reading the newspapers. It is true. I frankley love the clintons and i am a black african american. hillary will make a difference in american and as president i know that she will certainly get things done the right way.

william walsh col ohio   January 14th, 2008 8:47 am ET

by far hillery clinton is an assest to the political process, and further is most likley one of the most intellegent people on the planet, her vocabulary is unmatched and her speaking ability without a doubt is the best i have ever listoned too, very educated, has direction,and goals, im not real crazy about the gun issues and dont think that would happen in the u.s but she is a comunicator above the rest, very plesant to watch,this women has the ability to run,and the concerns of this country at hand, after watching and hereing her sunday i think she should be the next president of the united states,

roger, conway sc   January 14th, 2008 8:37 am ET

GET READY AMERICA if Obama & his supporters are offeneded by Bill & Hillary's comments they are looking for something to get upset over…IF OBAMA is elected president this is what we will be dealing with the entire time he is president…everytime a comment is made that offends MR OBAMA the nation will be blasted by the media for weeks listening to Donna Brazzelle, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, & Roland Martin tell how offended they are & demanding an apology…It is not the white american's that is not ready for a black president it is some of the black leadership that are not ready to take on the responsibility and move on and take care of what needs to be done to better our nation. I understand the media is responsible for spinning most of this by creating animosty between policticians and keeping it stirred up.

Andrea Hoch   January 14th, 2008 8:12 am ET

I'm surprised at how many people don't bother reading the facts about what the candidates have accomplished for our country, but instead, judge them by their personalities while campaigning. Leaders can't always be the perfect people some people expect them to be. Shouldn't we be more concerned about what the candidates have given to the world, and what they can do for our awesome country in the future? At one time, our country voted for presidents without ever seeing them, because there was no TV. We've become a great country due to all those great leaders that we have elected. In other words America, quit paying attention to the bullcrap you're seeing on TV and instead, do your homework; research the accomplishments of all the candidates in both parties and make a responsible, informed decision. You owe it to yourself and your children!

Jack K.   January 14th, 2008 8:02 am ET

That's great news–and endorsement from Hillary.

I'm personally disgusted and bored with the rhetoric and divisiveness already. Neither is matching the agenda I've endorsed–that of John Edwards.

They are BOTH –Party Hacks–who will promise everything–but give us only the same old tired solutions–that their biggest supporters (the special interest groups, lobbyiest–and organizations like the NEA, AARP, ACLU….) will allow them to provide (and their lawyers will probably draft the legislation). They will say and do anything t o keep the "big money " filling DEM Party coffers and war chests!

I'm for John Edwards–he promises to NOT be under the thumbs of the special interests–and still has not collected a "dime" from them.

PJ, New York   January 14th, 2008 7:49 am ET

Why doesn't Barack Obama salute/acknowledge the American flag? I have family in the military/Iraq and I personally find it offensive, especially someone who wants to be our leader.

Chris, Middletown, CT   January 14th, 2008 7:47 am ET

You party falls for this…your party relies on the "disenfranchised voters" - your party relies on promises of massive entitlements for those who haven't done a thing to help themselves….the "punish the rich" for reaching the American dream is getting old…and this slide into socialism is sickening

Anyone who supports Clinton baffles me (and any literate person out there)

Lisa   January 14th, 2008 7:39 am ET

Brady - this is an old endorsement, she did endorsed Hillary over one month ago - before the primaries were held.

Tired of the same old, same old   January 14th, 2008 7:28 am ET

I'm sorry but is Obama or Orpah running for President? Everyone worships Orpah and if she is running for President, oops I mean helping OBAMA run for President ,maybe that should tell us something…

Then again, everyone seems to worship Al Gore at the moment, so let's go back and remember who Al Gore supports…that's right Clinton.

Forget it, I'm voting for Edwards. Enough of this he said she said. I went through that in Junior High.

anon middle america   January 14th, 2008 6:03 am ET

James January 13, 2008 3:36 pm ET

"I didnt know that white women were discrimated against to the extent that blacks were and had "nightsticks crushed on their skulls" and faced "dogs and tear gas" , Hitlery is just trying to pander and act like she can identify. She came from priveledge and cant relate to the average American."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I take issue with this statement James, because you are clearly not old enough to KNOW what actually transpired during the Civil Right's Movement. It was NOT just blacks who stood up and protested and marched and "faced dogs and were tear gassed" and were knocked down and trampled!!! What is wrong with you people :( don't you ever engage your brains before you spout your hate and nonsense?!

IF you brainless wonders have absolutely no clue what went down during the 60's then shut the f**k up!! The rest of us are sick and tired of listening to you whine and snivel and flame everyone else's canidates! If this is an example of Obama's ability to be The Great Uniter — in the famous words of Kerry's wife = "shove it"

mark wilkes barre pa   January 14th, 2008 5:43 am ET

Youth voter USA,,, thank you for your honesty ,,,if you are who you say you are,, one never knows here,,, If what you say is what goes on in your generation,, that is truelly sad,,,
I'm guessing your age to be 18 to 25,, your probably at college hearing this crap,,,,This is the time of your life, you will never have more time to be what you want to be,do what you want to do, really experience life to the fullest, learn life lessons by your own actions instead of what some one who cant do for real so they teach , tells you to do. what you allow your self to acomplish between the ages of 18 through 30 will decide what you will do and who you are as a person for the rest of your life,, Dont waste it,, us old farts are counting on you, Take what you hear from your following friends or people you feel are shepparding your thoughts and challenge yourself to find out what YOU believe to be the truth,, do not take what your teachers or some talking point giver says as the gospel You have your own brain,, use it,,, that way you will never be sorry when you look back

Maeve   January 14th, 2008 5:24 am ET

The Obama camp plays the race card over and over and over again - finds insults behind every corner and every word - and yet Clinton gets blamed for saying she's proud of what they are both doing in breaking barriers through the very act of running for president?!

What is wrong with you people??? Don't be such tools!

It's embarrassing to watch you all in such a frenzied rush for the opportunity to fall into irrational fits of Obama-hysteria.

Trang, Fremont, CA   January 14th, 2008 5:14 am ET

Let's just say Hillary is not gifted with her speech.

I've been embarrassed w/ Bush.

I don't want to be embarrassed with you, Hillary. The new you hasn't really improved. You seem to gain energy, but then you turned for the worse. Statements that you make really embarrass me. Maybe you are smart, but just work in the background and avoid embarrasing us.

I don't live during the MLK and JFK period, but I know they affected many people. MLK challenged the status quo. He is an inspirational speaker who moved many people to join his cause. Of course, it requires Congress and President to pass laws and bring it to reality, but it doesn't diminish what MLK means to these people. By belittling MLK's contribution to the cause, you are offending many people. It's by your words that you offend people. Obama has nothing to do w/ people's reaction to your comments. And when things don't go your way, your turn around and blame it on Obama. This is what I mean by not trusting you. Obama is a nice person in your own party and you are treat him like this. I can only imagine your gaffe in your foreign policy by saying the wrong thing that offend people. Right now, we might be upset at you, but in the latter case, we might have war.

Obama, on the other hand, I don't mind seeing him on my TV set representing this country, speaking honestly and intelligently, lifting the people's spirits up.

mark wilkes barre pa   January 14th, 2008 5:12 am ET

It's just you don,,, every one is bashing every one

Jackie   January 14th, 2008 4:59 am ET

Well Clinton to much baggage for the Whitehouse, Obma, thai is like sending a plumber in to do surgery.Just does not have the experience right now. I also wonder about , just who he will pledge his allegence to, since putting his hand over his hard was to hard to do.

Then there is Mcain between him and Kenndey we will have open borders. Julina, former mayor. He has had his 15 min of fame , give it up.

Lets face it all the politicans all do the same thing bash each other and maybe all us voters will forget to ask the real hard question, like just what do you think you can do fro our country???. I have yet to hear any real plans or answers to the problems, and remeber the president can only do what congress lets him and visa versa.

Everyone needs to take a look at what each persons really stands for and not how much garbbage their team can throw out.

Just a thought

GEORGES   January 14th, 2008 3:42 am ET

nice try hillary nice try really….
you still think someone will believe you ?!!!

aware   January 14th, 2008 3:06 am ET

It is an historic moment to have an African American and a woman running for the highest office in the USA. There has been a very long struggle involving many to get this far for both gender and race issues. This is what Hillary has pointed out. It is arrogant and ignorant not to recognize this and simply ridiculous for Obama to attempt to surrepticiously label it racism.

caywen   January 14th, 2008 2:50 am ET

She's going to be even more proud of Senator Obama when he wins the nomination.

Lucky ,atl   January 14th, 2008 2:25 am ET

Can anybody tell me what Hillary forget in the white house ? what is driving her to the white house ? is she the best qualify candidate or woman in our country to be president NO. I am a hardcore democrat,but let me tell country people, if after all this divide,breaking family,pushing brother against brother that she is doing, i promised you i will vote republican. okay,she is good but Not betterthan senator Barack Obama,and that is why Obama is out shining the extablishment Hillary, what senatoe Joh Edward called celebrity candidate. America wake up and vote your conscience ,vote for the best out there and not name recongnition,vote for the change that will overhaul pur system .WE HAVE DEMOCRACY AND NOT THEOCRACY

amazed   January 14th, 2008 2:16 am ET

I just can't believe people can't see through all of this. Obama is not feeling the wrath of the news media because they are saving him for the general election. No experience + a troubled past= they will lay him out like an old rug, and the republicans will hold the office again. Major news media owned and opperated by big time republicans. Yeah, I'm sure the Murdocks want a Dem to win. You want change??? There is no bigger change in this country than having a woman as President!! Hell, I'm a male, and I'll even admitt that men have been screwing this up long enough, might as well give a woman a shot. I wouldn't mind seeing Obama as the Vice President to gain the experience and then be the President in the future. In that scenario the Dems have the chance to hold that office for the next 16 years! Lets get back to reality here though, this isn't a contest for the next American Idol that we are voting on, this is for the President of the United States. If thats the case, hell, lets vote in Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Wesley Snipes, or Justin Timberlake….etc…..I hope you get my point. Voting for someone because of looks and because "l like the way he talks" does not cut it for President of the most powerful country in the world.

brady   January 14th, 2008 1:41 am ET

Can anyone confirm this endorsement I just heard on the CBC network?
MAYA ANGELOU for Hillary Clinton. Maya is one of the most respected, intelligent people I am aware of.

Bethy   January 14th, 2008 1:22 am ET

Hillary keeps "stealing" Obama's words/ideas and making them her own. Obama gave a speech in Selma almost a year ago (it is on his website) where he stated that the reason he was where he was, was a direct result of MLK and CR movement. And he has said it again and again. Now, Hillary seems to be taking his speeches (or at least the themes) and using the ideas as her own. She also adopted Obama's change platform (if you look back at her initial campaign it was "experience" not "change").

I'm voting for McCain, but I am very impressed with Obama and very disappointed and disgusted with Hillary blaming the Obama campaign for her own mistakes and misrepresentations. Shame on you Hillary.

Pam of Rock Hill   January 14th, 2008 1:22 am ET

They said that this would happen. Everything would truly get very disgusting. The Republicans will not even have to research their playbook. They will just replay the one we are making for them. Meanwhile, the issues are being missed. Oh yes the reason you are running is lost.

I want hear more about the economy, jobs, education, war in Iraq, foreign affairs, energy, gun control, immigration reform, trade agreements with foregih countries, plans to lower crime. Are there plans to close Guamtomima Bay? What every happened to discussing, race relations, taxes, big government, healthcare, insurance for medicare, and dare I say social security. Finally, if a hurricane Katrina happens again perhaps in Harlem, are we ready, or does it has to be in Bethesda, MD? Please let me know where do we stand on all of these issues!

p.s. Let's get rid of "Don't as don't tell for Gays in the Military?" Isn't that another form of discrimination? Perhaps we should check our consitituion? Do you have plans to even examine stem cell research, too many people are dieing of cancer each day.

These are the things I want to here Candidates focus on uniting people around, Mrs. Clinton, let's not pick fights. Obama, if you or your staffers read this, I don't mind if you quote me. Please use the affirmiative and speak with conviction when you debate;no one is your judge but God. No one is the competion. The people will decide, not a poll, not even me!

Mrs. America   January 14th, 2008 1:21 am ET

All I read into that was that Sen. Clinton was proud of Sen. Obama, just like she is proud of herself, for being two minorities with the first real chance to take the Oval Office. I don't understand the big deal, and I sure can't figure out how Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" comment was racial. Sounds like everybody is messing with words and interpretation.

Murphy   January 14th, 2008 1:20 am ET

We watched all the coverage. We saw the debates. We saw all the speeches. When exactly did Obama play the race card? I don't think we've ever once heard him mention anything about being the first black president. It is everyone else (media and bloggers) that has been doing this.

Hillary mentioned in every debate that she would be the first woman president as a statement of change. Change? We are looking for new direction and don't care at all what gender or race the candidate is.

My gut tells me that Hillary and Bill will do anything to get back into the white house. If Bill and Hill want it that badly then to say ANYTHING, well they deserve to get back in the white house.

As a Psychologist I've studied human behavior for many years and research show that if you keep telling people the same thing over again they will eventually believe it. So, I know for a fact that Hillary's message will take Obama down. It's a shame though because he would have made a fine president. When Hillary was voting for the war, he spoke out and clearly predicted the outcome. Almost like he had a crystal ball. That kind of judgment is a true gift.

Not a normal blogger   January 14th, 2008 1:18 am ET

The fact of the matter is that Hilary said something that sparked a negative discussion across America about her. What did she do, she blamed the discussions on Obama. Obama has given several speeches (both planned and not planned) that have been hailed as motivate and inclusive. It seems that many of us have opinions on what qualifications a president should have but I think that we all can agree that a president should be mindful of what they say(should not need others to clean up their words) and inspire and motivate others to believe in and work toward their vision(the vision should come from the people). As a result, we should elect someone who will be able to convey the vision of America to not only Americans but to foreign nations as well without having someone clean up their statements.

e harrison   January 14th, 2008 1:10 am ET

I am puzzled. I hear alot of talk about experience, who has it and who doesn't.
I also look back on the past few years and find that even though there were those with experience, out country is in the worst shape ever. So, I guess my question is: What's experience got to do with it?

It appears that all experience has gotten us has been inept leaders. Next question: What experience has Hilary had? Other than campaigning, which she is extremely experienced, what credentials does she bring to the table–remember voters, her husband's credentials cannot be copied to her resume)–

She's tremendously experienced in denial, and re-inventing the truth and history, for that matter. I don't know who will get my vote, but I can assure you that for me this is now a 2way race between Barack Obama and John Edwards (perhaps the best man for the job)
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PulSamsara   January 14th, 2008 12:58 am ET

Clinton is a symbol of the past.
She represents divisiveness.
Her 'experience' is based upon her husband being President.
On the most important policy decision of our time she voted WRONG.

Enough is Enough.

End the Bush-Clinton Years… Let America move forward ! Now !

TK, Dallas, TX   January 14th, 2008 12:58 am ET

Slick Hillary is not the best candidtae for the job. Maybe she should have clarified what she and Slick Willie meant when they were making those comments. On the other hand perhaps they made those comments on purpose so that the race card did become a part of this campaign. Who do you think would win if race became a big issue in this campaign? Back peddling for votes and pander, pander, pander. If Obama gets the nomination I am voting him if not well………………………but certainly not Slick Hillary.

te   January 14th, 2008 12:47 am ET

Remember people Hillary Clinton is running for President–not Bill Clinton. Don't get it twisted.

People are most likely thinking that if Hillary gets into office-it will be like the good old days when Bill was President–but think again.

Also..Barack is not dividing the country-the media is doing a great job of that by infusing all of this negativity. Barack never said that he was MLK, JFK or any other great orator–those sentiments were made by the media.

Ann   January 14th, 2008 12:40 am ET

I can imagine how much fun Republicans have reading some of these stupid posts. Nothing substantive, just gossip, rumors, impressions..

You could listen to Clinton's and McCain's speeches today and find something of interest to discuss. But no, you still feel offended that this time, Hillary said something positive about Obama. If its negative is bad, if its positive is also bad.

This guy has certainly some flavor, but he promoted the non-issue dialogue to cover his inexperience.

Just watch MaCain and try to imagine how he would make Obama look like a 8th grader .. it will be fun to ask McCain about the Iraq war Mr. Obama, you, a man who had never served in the army.

Ron   January 14th, 2008 12:24 am ET

As a true blue democrat, I have come to grips with the fact that I just don't trust or like Hillary. I suspect there are thousands of us out there that if forced to, will vote for her in the general, but want a different choice. She will energize the right like no other democrat. I"m bothered that we see a new way to sell Hillary to the electorate every few weeks. At least Obama's message and campaign themes have stayed constant throughout. The latest flab puzzles me. She says something stupid and its somehow Obama's fault that people are asking her about it? Typical victim mentality, which by the way is why she cried last week.

Issues is what matter   January 14th, 2008 12:23 am ET

It's a shame that Sen. Clinton can't say anything at all without having her words tristed and disected. But at least we are getting information on the issues from her. That is what is important to me. The issues, not this petty stuff that is being reported..He said, she said. Give me a break.

The MLK quotes circulating…It did take Johnson to sign it into law. He by-passed the Senate Judiciary Committee because James Eastland wanted to hold it there indefinitely. If that had happened it would never have reached the senate to pass. So there was nothing wrong with what she said.

Why can't she be proud of him? It's not against the law. I can be proud of someone and still object to things that person says or does. At least she wasn't rude and condensending when she said it..He was both during the NH debate with his "YOUR LIKABLE ENOUGH " comment. That was a defining moment for me and I think alot of people in NH. I just sat there staring at the TV, totally shocked that he would say it like that. It was insulting to me as a woman and I'd venture to guess to others.

I'm disappointed that Sen. Obama is going against the very thing MLK fought so hard for: Equality for all by playing the race card. What are we going to do when he pulls that in the WH. You know what we will be able to do? Nothing!

Piece of advise for Hilary: Let him dig himself into a hole. He's already heading there in my opinion. If he does get the nomination the Republicans are going to eat him alive with his previous drug use issue and Tony Rezko connection. I don't see anyone commenting on those things….Right racist card…

Carole CA   January 14th, 2008 12:05 am ET

I can't believe what I'm reading here. How can so many people react so vehemently to a statement taken out of context? If you read the article and the paragraph where she says "I am so proud of Obama", it was part of a larger point she was making. If I read that article and reacted as so many bloggers did here, I would feel like a fool for deliberately distorting what Hillary said and then jumping up and down on a soapbox, denouncing her for it. My God! Get a grip. You are doing nothing to help support your candidate when you attack other candidates so mindlessly. Your comments come across as stupid, dim-witted, and desperate.

Anthony Fraser   January 13th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

The Clintons and their supporters are clearly using a bait and switch routine to bring Obama intoa divisive and killing debate about race. Killing debate because as soon as white America hears Obama make a response to their subtle racial statements it will herald the end of his campaign. It will be: "now the black radical is coming out…he's another Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton."

What a predicament for a country where the racial issue is so much at the core of its soul.

How can their supporter Mr. Johnson even suggest that he was not talking about Obama's drug use.? How can they use "the best defense is a good offence" strategy to defend Hilary's thoughtless statement about MLK and Bill's "fairy tale" statement by putting the onus on Obama to defend his response to their statements?.

This campaign is becoming a sickening exercise in dirty politics!
The Clintons are pulling the wool over the media's eyes!

Ken   January 13th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

At least Obama is likeable. If you think Bush is divisive, just wait until Hillary is elected. There will be gridlock like you have never seen and we will rue the day. I will be driving around with a bumper sticker that reads "Don't Blame Me, I Didn't Vote For Her." I like Ron Paul. He isn't an establishment or a special interest politician like some of those other fakes.

Sue, Michigan   January 13th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

I love it when Republican posters call Hillary to task for her morals. Where are you in regards to the lack of morals in the White House, or does it only matter when it's a personal issue, not something as dull as our future lives in a free land? As far as I can tell, Hillary has a good moral core, and she obviously can play the political games. Of course, she gets blasted no matter what she does…there is a lot of venom out there, but not a lot of reasonable discourse.
The fact is, she IS female, so get over it. We do tear up when we're vehement, we do change our minds when we have new facts, and we do tend to love unconditionally. I think her forgiveness of her husband is something women all over this country do every day. I'm starting to believe that she is threatening to a lot of men, and as she gets closer to the nomination, these guys can't stand the thought of a woman in charge.
Hopefully as the campaign drags on, we will learn the truth about what Obama really believes and plans to do if elected "Yes We Can" do what?), and the press will stop making mountains out of molehills with every word out of Hillary's mouth. Only then will we be able to choose the right person to win the White House.

Audrey in Alexandria, Virginia   January 13th, 2008 11:36 pm ET

one more thing. . . .

Inspiration is a powerful thing. And it is what makes a great leader. How often in our lifetime do we witness a candidate like Obama that inspires us?

Hillary complains that Obama speaks, great speeches but sees little action, but Hillary, — it is how he speaks that can move mountains. Words are key in negotiations and Hillary discounts Obama by complaining he speaks well but she sees no action. Hillary does not get it. Obama's skill at speaking should not be discounted by Hillary.

Hillary has yet to learn the lesson. I cannot imagine with her education she discounts the power of inspiration that Obama has. Hillary does not get it.

Albert Brake, St. Albert, Alberta, Canada   January 13th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Hello Again Everyone.

This is Albert Brake From St. Albert, Alberta, Canada. I hope that everyones has had a great start to the new year–May all the hardest of times be past you, so that your dreams, and hopes my brighten your futures.

Sen. Clinton, aside from the whole speech, did bring up a good point. Dr. King was a great voice for change, he along with many others fought for many years to bring about a great positive change in his country.

However, it wasn't until A "Government insider" with decades of service behind him came along and put mouth to paper and then signed the bill that change started to take shape.

So all in all, maybe a little Government know how, with a passion for change, a record of at least working hard towards the kinds of change that the majority wants may not be a bad thing after all?

Clinton and Mr. Dobbs should sit down and have a conversation or two after the primary has ran its course, that could in fact be the tick that your whole country can agree on?

Albert James Edward Brake.

Christian, Tampa FL   January 13th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

I want to hear more of this tone from all the candidates. It would be better to debate the issues but work for the same goal, which is to unite the country and build a better future. The historical nature of this election is incredible and a bit hard to comprehend, and I'd rather see the two history-making candidates on the Democratic side be cordial to each other.

tressa   January 13th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

As someone who lives in this country and not able to vote yet , I believe its important for me to have say . I must bluntly say I think Hillary and Bill Clinton are hipocrites very self centered this is where you would see what they are really made of. America can do without them. Obama doesnt have experience but he dares you to believe. He will be a great president give him a chance. As a woman what I see is that Hillary is so afraid of being defeated I am not sure she would be able to handle being defeated by Obama.

carlo   January 13th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

You know what her comment reminds me of? Remember the movie "Glory Road" when the white coach of the all African-American starting team of Texas Western met Adolph Ruff before the championship game? He looked at him and looked at his black players and said, "you must be thrilled to be here."

That is the equivalent of what Hillary said about Obama. After passing little inuendo and getting the blaxploitation king Johnson to outright insult Obama, she turns around and condescendingly says, "I'm proud of him" like he should just be "happy to be here." It sounded bad when Adolph Ruff said it, and it sounds even worse over 40 years later when Hillary says it.

Patrick M.   January 13th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

This is a truly sad day in our country. It seems as if the Obama people aren't stepping in and helping to quash the racial tension the very supporters of his "movement" are trying to insinuate. This is very sick and sad. I had problems with Obama's candidacy before because of his lack of experience and his ability to go through speeches without actually saying specifically what he wants to do for America to bring about change, but now I find flaws run much deeper in the "Change wagon."

How can one even suggest that Hillary could be racist. Come on, Hillary Clinton? Her comments were meant to show that it took a Democrat in the White House to do what was right for our country. If Dr. King marched, preached, and was jailed under a Republican, the Civil Rights Act would not have been passed. I think that's fair to say. Dr. King moved Senator Clinton as a child and help to mold her into the woman that she is today.

President Clinton is a completely different story. There's not an ounce of prejudice in his body. He was clearly speaking about Senator Obama's voting record being the exact same as Senator Clinton's. This is a bunch of crap that the Obama campaign needs to step up and quash. But instead of doing what's right, he's playing the racial divide in an attempt to win. Hillary stepped up today in church and said that she was proud that a woman and a black man actually being taken seriously.

I don't understand why so many people hate Senator Clinton. I still don't understand why people consider her a polarizing figure. Anytime she shows that she's tough on the issue, people try and degrade her. It's not fair. Treat Senator Obama the same way you treat Senator Clinton. She's a great person, and as an African American, I'd be more proud to call her President than I would ever if Obama wins.

Patrick M. of Detroit, Michigan.

Tom Davie   January 13th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

I think senator obama WILL be president one day.

Lets say Hillary wins the nomination, and I think she should and will.

Barrack is 47 years old by election time.

Even if hillary wins the election and then runs for re election Obama will only be 55 by time she is out of office.

So he has a long political future ahead of him.

I am a democrat. So I also look forward to Hillary and THEN Obama being president.

Bob, Florida - RFO   January 13th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

Barack Obama did not raise this as an issue. Bill and Hillary started this as I am sure they never expected Barack to actually challenge what they perceived as being their destiny!

Go Barack '08

"I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now I see!"

Shelly   January 13th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

I can see you don't want anything good said about Hillary to out weigh the strutter. you are as closed minded as some of the people sending in their comment.

Daniel Thomas   January 13th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

proud of Obama. So why vote for her. Vote Obama

biff   January 13th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

I've missed something…is Hillary Clinton a person of color? How patronizing can you get. Her comments make me want to puke. She is a product of and has benefitted from white priviledge all of her life. Is there nothing this woman will not do or say to get elected. The answer is no.
I'm a republican who is more than willing and ready to cross party lines and I like what I see in Senator Obama. I like his idealism. I like the fact that he inspires my own dreams for America. You have to inspire people to bring about change. You can't just mandate it and make it so. Mrs. Clinton doesn't inspire me in the least.
By the way, would someone please document for me these 35 years of "making change" experience that Hillary claims. The only thing I can recall is her miserably failed attempt to federalize health care during her husband's administration.

Mike   January 13th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

I am a registered Democrat. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate, I WILL vote Republican.

Maris   January 13th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Agreed Daniel. Obama needs to stop rushing, be patient, and gain the experience needed to hold such an important position as the presidency. He needs to earn the public's trust, and not demand it because he says so.

the mill   January 13th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

Obama is not what America needs right now. Hillary is the best qualified . We just cant afford anymore Republicans . Trillions in debt over the war and opening the borders to whoever wants to cross and now we are in a recession. Whats next?

MT   January 13th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Attack…backpedal…pander…attack…

Hillary needs to go.

steve michael   January 13th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

Really disgusting for Obama camp, and anyone else for that matter, to be race baiting by insinuating that the Clintons are bigoted. They were on the front lines with African Americans while BO was doing blow.

dan p   January 13th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

We are on to something here. I think there is a segment of white Liberal voters who will never vote for a black man. These are closet Liberal Bigots who are Hillary supporters. Most democrats with half a brain fear the Clintons will lose the general election and return congress to the republicans. She is the most divisive person on this planet. When 50% of voters say they will never vote for you no matter what thats a hard sell in the general election. How can she say Obama is behind the condemnations about her LBJ and husbands fairy Tail comments. Its her who is using gender to get sympathy. Dont beleive me? Look at Maureen Odowds Op Ed in the NY Times. Remember the idiots who had signs saying gigoted things like iron my shirt at her rally? They were paid by the clinton machine folks. These people had power for 8 years and they want it back so they will do and say anything to get elected. Poor Obama he has to fend off attacks by her and Bill its like hes running against a dual candidate… I think thats why Most prominent democrats endorse Obama. I think the ticket of Obama and the Arizona Governer would be unstopable. When are people going to wake up and see the Clintons are only in it for the power. Just listen to her speak its always I.I.I.I.I and not we.

Jeff G   January 13th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Hearing that she praised Obama just hours after attacking him is consistent, as Hillary will say anything to anyone if she thinks it will get her ahead. Her "experience" is nothing as the "35 years" is 7-years as Senator without any leading legislation. There is nothing from her that is beneficial as head of the Dems or as President, she is polarizing and will not unite the country.

Benny Lava   January 13th, 2008 9:29 pm ET

It is the height of arrogance to believe the electorate are that dumb that they cannot see past this and look at the real issues such as the integrity of the candidate.

The Clintons with their lies and deceit represent the past in American politics

J. Rae Niles   January 13th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Both Obama and Hillary have raised imortant issues as have others and these issues of unity and hope are crucial to the healing of this nation, and ultimately to the healing of the world in which we engage. However, Hillary has also the heart, mind, vision and the experience to make these dreams real and to offer hope a better chance of manifesting into reality. She has the experience in both uniting when called for and doing battle when called for. She, as a woman is changing the course of the American male dominated Presidency, she, as a woman is changing the future, before the future's arrival.

She is and always has been a supporter of the African American Community and has championed the causes of those whose voice has been silenced by prejudice, classicism racism, sexism etc. She has endured and triumphed as a woman. She has the ability and experience to lead this nation, she knows, she sees, she understands foreign and domestic policy.

Obama is young and bright, but he has not the experience to bring us headlong as a nation into change. We have no time for one who is inexperienced, to wait while he learns how to truly bring about a change. He needs to grow and learn how to lead a nation.
Beyond poetics, the Presidency calls for oh so much more; it calls for experience and the ability to deal with the 21st century global crisis, which only one skilled and prepared can truly take on. Hillary has all of the qualities and all the experience an American President Needs to lead us into change.

In time, the Presidency will hold a seat for Obama, but his time as a President has not yet come, he must grown and learn the international relations mechanism to negotiate and deal with crisis, this takes more than poetics and quick mind, it takes experience.

Ask yourself would you let a 1st year medical intern do heart surgery on your mother? America is our Mother. The intern needs time to learn more, all his best intentions, are not enough to lead America in this time of economic, social and international crisis. His time will come. In the meantime let he and Hillary stand on the mountaintop together in harmony. Let him raise awareness and when he is matured, he then will lead this nation. But now, here in this moment, we MUST have one with Experience.

Hillary can heal this nation with all of us along side of her. Its time, to allow, her, to heal this magnificent nation and lead us into the light of change.

Hillary, your country calls upon you to lead.

Obama, your country honors your message of hope.

We Need Hillary to lead us and all of us need to march this one together.

J. Rae Niles

J. Rae Niles   January 13th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Both Obama and Hillary have raised imortant issues as have others and these issues of unity and hope are crucial to the healing of this nation, and ultimately to the healing of the world in which we engage. However, Hillary has also the heart, mind, vision and the experience to make these dreams real and to offer hope a better chance of manifesting into reality. She has the experience in both uniting when called for and doing battle when called for. She, as a woman is changing the course of the American male dominated Presidency, she, as a woman is changing the future, before the future's arrival.

She is and always has been a supporter of the African American Community and has championed the causes of those whose voice has been silenced by prejudice, classicism racism, sexism etc. She has endured and triumphed as a woman. She has the ability and experience to lead this nation, she knows, she sees, she understands foreign and domestic policy.

Obama is young and bright, but he has not the experience to bring us headlong as a nation into change. We have no time for one who is inexperienced, to wait while he learns how to truly bring about a change. He needs to grow and learn how to lead a nation.
Beyond poetics, the Presidency calls for oh so much more; it calls for experience and the ability to deal with the 21st century global crisis, which only one skilled and prepared can truly take on. Hillary has all of the qualities and all the experience an American President Needs to lead us into change.

In time, the Presidency will hold a seat for Obama, but his time as a President has not yet come, he must grown and learn the international relations mechanism to negotiate and deal with crisis, this takes more than poetics and quick mind, it takes experience.

Ask yourself would you let a 1st year medical intern do heart surgery on your mother? America is our Mother. The intern needs time to learn more, all his best intentions, are not enough to lead America in this time of economic, social and international crisis. His time will come. In the meantime let he and Hillary stand on the mountaintop together in harmony. Let him raise awareness and when he is matured, he then will lead this nation. But now, here in this moment, we MUST have one with experience.

Hillary can heal this nation with all of us along side of her. Its time, to allow, her, to heal this magnificent nation and lead us into the light of change.

Hillary, your country calls upon you to lead.

Obama, your country honors your message of hope.

We Need Hillary to lead us and all of us need to march this one together.

BIOYA   January 13th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Keeping this brief. Both Hillary and Obama are are pretty sorry duo. Neither has a clue as to what makes our economy grow (except tax, tax and tax). Both have real electibility problems in the South; without the South they'll both lose in the general election.

I'm not in love with their opposition, but they are better by default.

Pope   January 13th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

And Hillary wonders why people just DISLIKE HER.

Hillary will never be President. WE LOVE NANCY PELOSI BUT NOT INHUMANE HILLARY

Kodjo   January 13th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

I certainly agree with David. The Clintons have always embraced and done more for the blacks than any other U.S president . Bill Clinton even established his office in black Harlem in New York City so he can get closer to the black community. Please note that this presidency should not be about history making. It should be about who has the experience to get the job done. Like balancing the budget, creating millions of new jobs,health care social security etc. I believe our national debt is over 9 trillion and there is no end in site. I think this is in itself history in the making. Think twice. Vote wisely.

Ronald   January 13th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

One is "proud" when another is of lower stature, such as a parent being proud of his children. One "admires" another of an equal or superior position, such as one admiring a hero.

The question is, then, is Hillary's expressed feeling of superiority towards Obama the unfortunate result of deep seated race hostility and conflicts?

Ronald

Barney   January 13th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Why wouldn't this woman stop running her mouth. I am getting sick of her as each day passes.

After throwing all that dirt on Barack, now she starts "complementing" him?

She is nothing but a FAKE, power hungry person. How come many people don't see this?

She attempted to sit in on cabinet meetings when slick Willie was and her was in the Whits House. AND got everything screwed up that she wasn't invited any more sit-ins.

WHAT A PHONY WOMAN

timothy   January 13th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

jelly fish…will do anything and will say anything to get a vote …you are NOT getting mine …it goes to OBAMA.

Dave. San Diego, CA   January 13th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Can we say, elect Senator Clinton and watch the investigations open wide open AGAIN. Tens of millions of dollars wasted on Kenneth Starr. Well, you elect Senator Clinton and guess what we get Kenneth Starr all over again. The US has one black, do we really want the other one blackened, PLUS a broken jaw? That's exactly what we will get by putting the Clintons back in the Whitehouse.

It is clear that regardless which one of them goes on to be the nominee (Clinton or Obama) each ones words are going to be used against them (Clinton's attacks on Obama and vice versa) by the Republican Party. The primary elections are NOT the time to be slinging mud, the time for that is the general election when you are trying to beat the other party.

Those who say 'experience' is want is required I have a few things to say when referencing Senator Clinton. First, she does NOT have presidential experience, her husband does, and prior to becoming president he didn't have presidential experience either. The only way ANYONE gets presidential experience is with on the job training. Almost all presidents (with the exception of Bush Jr.) draw on the experience of former presidents. They also rely on their advisors, that is why they have them. This is why experience in my mind is not as necessary as some may believe it is. Clinton represents more of the same. The dot.com boom ended when Bill left office, hence we need a NEW approach to the economy.

Mrs. Clinton was given two tasks when she was first lady, she failed at both. Since when is FAILURE considered 'good experience'? Last time I checked, it isn't. Think back to Kenneth Lay. He had a lot of experience at being the CEO of Enron, but was also a failure and was set to go to prison before he died, was that really 'good experience'? No.

It is evident that the more educated the voters (within the Democratic Party - look the demographics) are voting for Obama, there is a reason for this. Senator Clinton's demographics are mostly those with little or no college education. Again, there is a reason for this. Many of them do not have the capacity to think critically about the issues.

Someone has stated that "Obama needs to be patient", well as far as I am concerned I have been patient for the the last 20 years looking for a candidate that can truly benefit ALL American citizens, and for me that candidate is Barack Obama. It is time that we turn the page from this Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton regime. Regime change starts at home. This country cannot afford politics as usual.

Concerned Citizen, IN   January 13th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

The republicans are praying for Hillary to be nominated. You want to talk about electability? Read these comment boards and watch Fox News for a bit. If you choose Hillary, you choose one of the most polarizing figures in American politics. If McCain is the nominee, you can bet he will get 90% of the independent vote, a percentage of the democratic vote, and for darn sure 100% of the republican vote.

America does NOT want Hillary as the nominee. Anyone voting for her in primaries has been hypnoticzed by her political slickness. She has NO shot at being elected because she is so widely hated.

Obama on the other hand, represents a candidate who can win the independent vote, lock up the democratic vote, and hopefully steal some republican vote. On experience, tell me how the experience Rumsfeld and Cheney brought to office proved to benefit America. It was Rumsfeld who shrank the Army to try to make them more light and efficient. Not the democrats.

This is absurd….

I will vote for McCain if it is McCain vs. Clinton.

R Cain   January 13th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

Want to see the REAL Hillary….search YouTube 'shocking video hillary' and see for yourself.

Change is not just a campaign slogan.

John   January 13th, 2008 8:42 pm ET

so, the media has played you all once again. ALL the candidates bash and then praise each other for their "good campaigns" and " i have a lot of repect for __", etc, etc, etc.

but god forbid hillary does it - then it's a crime and yet another example of her dishonesty! just becasue the candidates disagree on issues or criticize each other for different things, doesn't mean that they can't praise them for other things -obama congratulated hillary on her nh win, do you think he really meant it?

did any of you ever consider that cnn purposely composed this article to point out the two things so everyone would blantly see the contradtiction and then get upset about it? cnn is obviously anti-hillary, but of course, it's incredibly politically correct and even encouraged to villify and disparage her. i bet all the writers are sitting back in their chairs and having a hardy laugh at your idiocy for falling for it. how easy it is to get you all so upset. obama likes this; with no experience, he has to appeal to your emotions. and you make it very easy for him.

i think that media is terrified of scrutinizing obama in any way becasue they're afraid of being seen as racist if they do so. look what happened to bill; i saw that speech and there was nothing remotely racist there, but they managed to make it an issue anyway. people don't care about truth. if you say something so many times, people just begin to believe it as true, especially if it makes them angry.

ANYONE who claims that the clinton's remarks were racist is an idiot. anyone who claims that the clinton "cry" caused the "loss" in nh is an idot. obama is the only candidate who is running on your emotions. and before you decry obama as being the victim, don't forget about his numerous disparaging remarks to hillary, such as when he said that her meeting with benazir bhutto was nothing more than a tea party, or when he made fun of her unlikability, or when he undermined her role and achievements as first lady (we all know hillary was behind all of bill's policies). but no cries foul or sexism when this happens. and how come the "romney cry" from a couple fo weeks ago didn't get this much media coverage?

obama - come back in four or eight years. you still have plenty of time. you have to prove yourself first before we elect you to the highest position of the most powerful nation on earth.

Julie   January 13th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

If African Americans who were once Clinton supporters (because they thought he was their "Black President") are now voting for Obama, it looks like they are voting on the basis of race. What happens if Obama becomes the Democratic Presidential nominee and then looses to a Republican? Will they return to the Clintons hoping for a renewed relationship?

Toussaint   January 13th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

No doubt the tandem Bill & Hill will win the nominee. What is the point talking about the race in this issue, I know that if unfortunately Obama has be the Nominee, the Clintons will vote Rep. True or not. I bet this will happen.

David   January 13th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

I like Obama AND I like Hillary. I am voting for Hillary because she is better qualified, If Obama wins, I will vote for him as he is better than any Repiblinan running at this time and because i do not hate qualified smart women like some who are so scared by HC. Give smart Women a break

Jose Card - Independent   January 13th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

Don,
There are also a large number of Independents out there and I am one of them.

You are wrong if you think only Obama's supporters will criticize Hillary.

As an Independent, I can speak my conscience. I am not biased against either party. Both are terrible so I am Independent. I am doing my citizen's duty and picking the best qualified candidate as my president.

I am happy that we can share all these talks online.
A country of different voices is a healthy one.
A leader that has the voice to convince the nation is a true leader.
Unfortunate for you, Obama's voice is more convincing than Hillary, who doesn't really have a voice.

I was waiting for Bill to release documents from his administration to verify Hillary's claim of 35 years of experience. But he won't release them till after 2012 - next election.

Without any solid proof, I could only judge Hillary based on her campaign and her senate records. I am sorry to say that I have moved from doubt to anger and now I am voting for anybody but Hillary. I did my homework and she doesn't have what it takes to be my president.

Good luck with choosing your president!

Casey   January 13th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

I think Clinton should stay away from praising Obama- at least until she picks him as her running mate.

gary stewart   January 13th, 2008 8:08 pm ET

The notion that Senator Obama has brought to the bear the "race card" is ludicruous. The fact is that Obama is an African-American; there is nothing he can do to change this fact. He does not have to talk about it…his race is before the whole world. But once you hear his message you will recognize that the man is genuine and wants to bring real change to America. He has been honest and forthright about who he is in two books, and to date has not attacked the character of Senator Clinton. He was even gracious in his comments during his speech in New Hampshire concerning his rival.

Senator Clinton this morning on "Meet The Press" did not have once good thing to say about Senator Obama. In fact, Senator Clinton up to this point had not said once good thing about Senator Obama. She waits until she is standing in an African-American church to tell US that she is proud of Senator Obama. If this is pandering I don't know what is! Senator Clinton somehow believes that African-American's are gullible…I hope we send a clear message that our vote can not be bought.

Jim in Orlando, FL   January 13th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

"I am so proud of Senator Obama …… "

Why, because he takes the two-faced "What I really meant to say" attacks from you and Bill with class ? How come Hillary and Bill always need to restate what they meant when we have the entire original quote on tape ? Who believes this double-speak crap ?

southern   January 13th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

Why does a person of color have to work harder to accomplish something? This is just another example. Obama is being attacked on both sides - one by Hillary and her campaign people, and the other by her husband - a former President. That is an uphill battle. The people who say he is inexperiened are just regurgitating the Clinton line. He is a GROWN MAN who is intelligent, well-educated, and accomplished; (not some "kid" as Bill Clinton says).

Mauri   January 13th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

I'm proud of Senator Obama too. But I cannot support him for the presidency.

TENI   January 13th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

If you were that proud ofhim, you'd drop out and vote for him. I know I am….OBAMA 2008! You don't suck Hillary, you just don't compare to change. And no matter what you say, you will NEVER make me think that you can produce change. You were a first lady…..that equals ugh, NOT change!

Gene Pentiuk   January 13th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Check the money trail supporting the Clintons = the Clintons will be "Puppets on a string " managed by those Washington lobboyists and you my dear average Americans who have no guts to think for yourselves will continue to be "puppets on a string" Take it from this WW11 Infantry Captain that the terriorists will be in our back yards when/if "Hellery " tells our Generals to bring our boys back == I wish just one of our Generals had the guts to tell it like it is == LORD. please help our grandchildren !!!

Disappointed reader   January 13th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I am an Irishwoman, reading this blog from the other side of the Atlantic. I am saddened by what I am reading here because most of the opinions posted here are indicitave of a population that has learned NOTHING over the past eight years (that is with an incompetent, even corrupt administration). For the incoming president - regardless of which side of the political fence they're on - their greatest challenge will be to restore America's global credibility and cut it loose from its now shameful reputation in the world. I don't believe the American public are truly aware of the enormity of this issue. Americans cannot afford to make another mistake in their choice of leader but it seems that many people blogging here have their eyes and ears firmly shut and are clearly brainwashed by campaign rhetoric. I love America but from what's been posted here I am not convinced that her people are capable of selecting a leader whom can do her justice. It seems that too many people are clutching on to too much baggage. Look to the future folks; let go of your past or you'll NEVER make progress. We had to do it here in Ireland - and it worked. Ditch the tit-for-tat "he said, she said" crap and just get on with the job of rebuilding your country.

Scott, Madison, WI   January 13th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

Don:

Clinton supporters are not more educated just more adamant and defensive about the case they present. In case you need to be informed, as the trend currently suggests, Mr. Obama has the support of college educated people over Mrs. Clinton. Her support stems mostly at this point from blue collar workers - (That is until they look at all the union busting ties in her ranks including her campaign manager, Mark Penn) - middle-aged and older women and more traditional Dem voters. Believe or not, white men are supporting Mr. Obama in surprisingly unexpected numbers at this point!

Bill and Hillary are the birth parents of the divide and conquer strategy and the beat still goes on. Right wing conspiracy theory, anyone? Partisan politics and bickering? If Hillary is such an agent of change, why hasn't all her "experience" made any difference in Washington gridlock or politics as usual? And, why the hell are we still discussing the same issues were were prior to and during Bill's term in office almost 2 decades ago?

Ann Messine   January 13th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

Next we will hear that it's not Obama's turn but it is Hillary's… So Obama you have to wait your turn and go to the back of the bus. Wake up America to the two most ambitious phonies of all time-Bill and Hillary

PW Va   January 13th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

I fully understand what many Republicans have been saying for years now about Hillary. I can't begin to describe my utter disdain for her.

On Meet The Press today, she accused Senator Obama of distorting her comments (among a myriad of other issues she accused him of). Then, she appears at a largely African-American church and states how proud she is of him. This woman is truly suffering from some type of mental incapacity which in my mind precludes her from running for anything above dogcatcher!!! Simply amazing!!!!

Julie   January 13th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

This blog is full of so many hateful people that it scares me. I am not going to vote at all.

D In SC   January 13th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Look incase you didn't know, ALL politicians are the same in one respect. None of them are perfect. If you have hung the perfection mantel on Obama, then shame on you for setting him up to fall. Let's keep our wits about us and remember that the Presidency of the last 7 years has taken a toll on this country both here and abroad. We need someone with EXPERIENCE and determination to get the job done. Someone willing to take the hits and still fight for each and every one of us. These people both have their strenghts and weaknesses. For me it comes down to this. I want someone with Experience. Experience is not a bad thing. Tell me, if you owned a multi million dollar company and wanted to hire a CEO would you look for someone with experience? You bet you would. We all have opinions and ideas, but when it comes to the White House, I want to know that the person in charge of the country (no matter, their race, gender, marital status, religious belief, etc) has knowledge and ability. Since when did skill become a bad thing. Hillary is proud of Obama…you all slam her for that. Some person around her implies that he used drugs, you slam her for that. Well get a grip. If he says he is proud of her will you slam him? If he attacks her will you slam him? He is a POLITICIAN. He is a registered Democrat. Change or not he, like Hillary and all the others, are Politicians. Let's not loose sight of that.

Lisa   January 13th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

Don - according to the polls - it is actually the educated people who vote for Obama. Hillary's votes are from people are less educated.

s.positive   January 13th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Talk about INTEGRITY folks, I least we know who got it…

Lyn Ng   January 13th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

Youth voter USA drives home a very strong point. One must ponder objectively and very carefully. I concur with Daniel Koh. Hillary is the best Democrat candidate and John McCain the best Republican choice. The US presidency is too important and too influential to experiment.

Gidi   January 13th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

we are proud of him too and will be a fine president. Thank you hillary for recognizing that!

teddy orlando fl   January 13th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

hillary please just go away

Krishna   January 13th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

why the sudden change of heart mrs. clinton?

Jake, California   January 13t