January 14, 2008
Posted: 10:45 AM ET
 Bill Clinton appeared on Roland Martin's show Monday.
Bill Clinton appeared on Roland Martin's show Monday.

(CNN) — Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign came out swinging Monday against the latest complaints from her rival, with former President Clinton announcing he has "a list of 80 attacks on Hillary" by Senator Barack Obama's campaign.

In a nationally syndicated radio interview on WVON, Bill Clinton said Hillary Clinton's way of handling attacks showed a clear difference from Obama. "She didn't complain about it," he said, citing one in particular that he considered "appalling."

"She just said 'I disagree,' and went on."

Clinton's remarks on the Roland S. Martin Show — which has a largely African-American audience — came amid a flare-up over remarks by Black Entertainment Television founder Bob Johnson, who appeared with Hillary Clinton on Sunday at a church in South Carolina, site of an upcoming primary.

Many believe Johnson made a veiled reference to Obama's drug use as a young man, though he insists that was not his intention.

"I think we have to take it at his word," the former president told Martin, adding that "nobody knew" what Johnson would say, and "it wasn't part of any planned strategy."

Johnson was rejecting the controversy over a recent remarks by Hillary Clinton, who noted that it "took a president" to make the Voting Rights Act a law after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had led the struggle for it. Some interpreted that remark as dismissive of the civil rights movement. Obama on Sunday called the remark "ill-advised."

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– CNN's Josh Levs

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bill Clinton • Hillary Clinton


Lynn   January 14th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Dear Lord, it will never end. And the worst thing is that both Clintons seem to enjoy slinging the mud so much. Maybe if they don't make it back to the White House, they can start a stucco or drywall business.

S.K.M. Boston Mass   January 14th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Where's the list?

matchu   January 14th, 2008 11:03 am ET

Oh my goodness. how low can you sink…..its gotten ridiculous. I refuse to vote for this woman if she wins the nomination. How sad

Scott, Madison, WI   January 14th, 2008 11:04 am ET

We saw Bill's victim routine last time around and look what the result was.
Need I say more? So, is Bill going to come out crying every time Hillary gets any kind of flak for her poorly chosen words or is she going to put on her big girl underwear and stand up for herself?

Mike   January 14th, 2008 11:04 am ET

The Republicans don't need to launch any attack ads on the Democrats….They're doing a good enough job on each other.

Brendan D, Niles, IL   January 14th, 2008 11:05 am ET

It boggles my mind that the bitter, angry old man posing as Bill Clinton on Hillary's campaign trail is the same one Democrats hailed as such an excellent former leader four years ago.

Wayne, Greenville TX   January 14th, 2008 11:05 am ET

He's making a list, checking it twice -
Hillary's desperate, and no longer nice…..

Lillian   January 14th, 2008 11:08 am ET

What Johnson said was true. Obama put the drug use out there when he wrote about it in his book. This is not something the Clinton camp dug up. If it is OK for Obama to make money talking about his prior drug use, why is it not OK for people to discuss it. You better believe the republicans will bring it up.

Perhaps the money earned from his book is how he purchase that million dollar house with the help of Rezko (?).

C.Lo   January 14th, 2008 11:09 am ET

I have never seen a couple with such hunger and obcession with power.

C.Lo

Bob Maurer   January 14th, 2008 11:09 am ET

New "softer," humanizing advertisements were released last week in Nevada and South Carolina by the Hillary Clinton for President campaign.

After her 30 years of often referenced political and policy experience and two best selling autobiographies, NOW we are getting the REAL Hillary. So much for experience.

The Senator says she has NOW, finally, found her voice in the last 48 hours. But it is pretty shrill. Her performance on Meet the Press was either soft nor humanizing - same old, same old.

"Hard as nails" Hillary tried to take Obama to the woodshed demeaning Martin Luther King and Obama's anti-war message as she sought to defend her and President Clinton's attacks on the Illinois Senator.

Come on folks, we are being spun. Remember the great right-wing conspiracy?

Alice, VA   January 14th, 2008 11:13 am ET

What a despicable human being. This man has no credibility with a very large segment of the population. Consider this Bubba, contempt for you is transferrable to your wife. While it may not be obvious in the Primaries, it will become readily apparent in the General Election. The Clinton attack machine has awaken….the closer it gets the worse it will become. These two will stop at nothing for their personal goals. Disgusting.

David   January 14th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Same old status quo.

Gman   January 14th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Even if Hillary wins the nomination now, she has lost my vote. I will abstain rather than vote for her. I take solace in knowing that Hillary's feathers have been ruffled and Obama has given the establishment a great fight.

JD, WI   January 14th, 2008 11:15 am ET

Not just attacks, Obama's economy plan released yesterday is a total copycat of the Clinton plan released last week. This is shockingly embarrassing that has never seen in political history. Even his economic advisor admits it’s similar to Clinton plan. Is this how Obama bring about change? By changing numbers of an opponent’s plan?
If you can’t even come up with an original idea how can you be a change agent?
Of course, Clinton camp has been asked for meat all this time.
But it is unthinkable that Obama will produce meat stolen right from the Clinton’s refrigerator.

Anonymous   January 14th, 2008 11:15 am ET

It's laughable to think that the Clinton people were saying just a few weeks ago that Obama wasn't electable because he would be torn apart by the "Republican Attack Machine".

If Obama survives the Clinton attack machine, he'll be able to handle anything the Republicans dish out. These Clinton people spit, kick, bite, scratch, and go for the groin. They think they own the White House, together with the Bush family.

Bill Clinton is standing in the doorway of the White House, saying that Obama gets in over his dead body.

James   January 14th, 2008 11:15 am ET

How stupid and naive of barak and his entire team to think thatno one will ever bring his drug use up? If he does win, you know that the Republicans will gleefully bring up his cocaine use, so….if he cannot handle the subject now, he should drop out.

Pope   January 14th, 2008 11:16 am ET

The Clintons just wants to take down the whole ship if they are going down. the mentality is, "if hillary isn't getting the white house, Obama wont eithe" very sad

Jack   January 14th, 2008 11:16 am ET

90's all over again. Typical Clintons. Go McCain.

Greg, NY   January 14th, 2008 11:17 am ET

This is getting childish now, seriously.

Stephen   January 14th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Neither of the Clintons have any ounce of credibility remaining, anybody who would consider voting for them needs to think long and hard if they really want this kind of slime ball politics back in the White House. We have had it for years and years, Americans are just sick of it, we need to move beyond this.

Mike, Conway, AR   January 14th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Now I understand why Al Gore didn't want his help in 2000. He just makes things worse.

Glenn Doty, Columbia, SC   January 14th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Bill has been whining enough for any 10 candidates. He's been attacking enough for any 10 candidates as well.

I guess the Clinton camp has decided that Hillary can't campaign for herself at all anymore, and is just letting Bill do everything.

That would definately be better for her campaign than letting Hillary screech about something, but I can't see how this is supposed to show America that she can actually do something (such as lead the country) on her own.

Having an impressive spouse is not exactly qualification for president.

Rosie   January 14th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Why does everyone run scared from Obama's drug use? I think it would be okay to raise this issue for any other candidate, but for Obama, it's racist? Can someone explain that double standard?

If Obama supporters think they will get a free pass in the general election from the GOP on his past drug use, they are living in a fantasy world.

As for Mr. Johnson's comments, he's free to say what he's thinking and should not have to apologize or "correct' his statements. He should have just let them stand on their own.

clinton hate politics   January 14th, 2008 11:19 am ET

this guy obstructed justice about 9 years ago as well. Please go home bill, thanks for all you did for this country. It really was a great 8 years, we need to move on now though

Monty   January 14th, 2008 11:19 am ET

I need a definition of what you would call the slinging stuff from the Obama camp?

C.Lo   January 14th, 2008 11:20 am ET

Who is running? Is Bill running or Hillary. If she wants to be the next President, Hillary should at least defend her position herself

Scott, Royal Oak, MI   January 14th, 2008 11:21 am ET

now that Hillary's lead in national polling has nearly evaporated, Bill comes out with more nonsense.

the Clintons are hurting themselves and the party. PLEASE STOP

Jack K.   January 14th, 2008 11:21 am ET

SOMEBODY JUST SHOOT ME!!!

I really hope the folks in S.C. are watching this melarchy play out between the DNC leadership and the Clinton/Obama camps!!!

I've been a DEM for my entire life, and served under 7 Presidents in the Armed Forces.

The only candidate who will unite the party in a positive way–and stop the rangling to appease special interests groups and net their BIG campaing dough–is John Edwards.

TAKE A HARD LOOK SOUTH CAROLINA DEMS…..
IF YOU WANT A REPRIEVE FROM THE SAME OLD POLITICAL GAMES–JUST NEW FACES

THEN VOTE JOHN EDWARDS FOR PRESIDENT.

He represents every American.
He doesn't play the standard political game.
His message doesn't change with the polls–but his flame is so bright ALL of the DEM and GOP candidates are now campaigning on an agenda for CHANGE.

He is the only one who is serious though.

darrell   January 14th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Let it Go Bill

Unite for one Dem cause and move on.

Dems will loose the big prize if this continues

Turn the page like Carter

Monte Brown, New York, NY   January 14th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Hillary Clinton should be leading even wider in the polls. This should not be a horse race. Hillary Clinton clearly beats all of her Democratic rivals on issues, which is why her rivals have to resort to demagoguery for votes.

The Obama campaign and those who are endorsing Obama know darn well that they are trying to distort Hillary’s comments about the Civil Rights Act. What Obama’s campaign is not realizing is that black people are not as gullible, racist and superficial as the Obama campaign wants them to be when they vote. I am a black man and I graduated college thanks to the federal and state grants I received. I am now a tax paying, law abiding citizen and I am a fervent lover of the party of compassion. The Clintons will bring REAL change to the black community. To suggest that the Clintons are racist is simply ludicrous. The Clintons have done more to preserve the lives of black people than Obama could ever do. We can’t eat hope. These guys are playing games.

Black people need to know that Hillary Clinton was absolutely right, and there is nothing sensitive or emotional about what she said. If Lyndon Johnson didn’t pass that Civil Rights Act there would be none. Why do you think Dr. King took his speech to Washington D.C.?

If black people let Jesse Jackson, a man who has done absolutely nothing for black people, tell them how to vote then black people are accepting a complacent, superficial stance in America. Black New Yorkers threw all their support behind David Dinkins and look at the mess he made in New York City. Black people must take away emotions and petty nonsense from their decision making. Vote for the candidate that will put food on your table and not for the next black face who sells you the Brooklyn Bridge. I think that once Hillary gets the opportunity to debate Obama on issues without media distortions and the distortions and demagoguery of the so-called black people, black voters will choose Hillary Clinton. We have work to do. We have an education gap to close and jobs to fill. We want a leader that is ready to lead on day one, not an orator.

Andrew K   January 14th, 2008 11:22 am ET

I am so tired of Bill injecting his opinion as much as he has lately. This campaign isn't about him or his "legacy". I'm really starting to lose respect for the guy…

Ray   January 14th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Its funny if Obama was the one saying this it would be ok. You Clinton haters are Hatefull. He's just responding to Obama's comments yesterday!

Hillary 08!!!

Lucille   January 14th, 2008 11:22 am ET

So, the Clintons come out swinging and everybody whines. This over-protection of Obama has got to stop. He should be treated just like everyone else and right now, he is not. If he doesn't want "race" to be an issue, then he has to stop bringing it up. He is no JFK or MLK; he's not even an RFK!

joli   January 14th, 2008 11:22 am ET

You know Barak has no problem talking about about his teenage drug use. But heaven forbid if someone should "gasp" use it against him! PLEASE!!!! As far as im concerned… perhaps if he had been paying more attention in history class versus doing drugs he would know that the Civil Rights movement was about more than Martin Luther King Jr. Yes MLK was a huge proponent but did not act alone in the accomplishments that took place both inside and outside Washington. This is simply just a desperate use of playing the race card… and assumes the public is dumb on the topic of Civil Rights.

You got called out Obama… You can talk about change and hope all you want and compare yourself to the likes of MLK and JFK… but in the end these great men didnt just talk about it they acted and accomplished great things. You on the other hand are arrogant enough to compare yourself to these great men without having accomplished anything… which personally I find to be a greater insult to their legacy.

John, Washington DC   January 14th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Real smart Bill - break out a huge list of reasons why Hillary should not be President.

You really do have a forgiving wife - if I compiled a long list of all the potential faults of my wife, I would not see my own bed for a month, perhaps ever. Or if I apologized for not having a younger one…

This race will get more comical if all of the other canidates start bringing thier spouses out to whine and moan on their behalf.

Mel   January 14th, 2008 11:23 am ET

I'm glad the Clinton's are standing up for themselves. Barack doesn't practice what he preaches but loves to attack for any reason. I don't think he would be a uniter as he says he would. If this is any indication, I know he won't.

Dave SB Indiana   January 14th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Hey Bill,

Maybe instead of attacking your fellow members of the democratic party, you should attack the Republicans. Bill, your just making Hillary's campaign a mess.

R, Boston MA   January 14th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Will the Clintons just SHUT UP with all this stuff? They will never quit. Obama is running his own campaign, and the Clintons are simply trying to dismantle it without giving the American public any good reason to vote for them (yes, THEM, not just Hillary).

Give it a REST.

Billy Sayles   January 14th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Let's not let anything divert us from the lack of experience of Senator Obama. Just as Sgt. Joe Friday used to say, just the facts maam,just the facts. The country is now taking a close look at him, and he's trying to divert attention. Stay focus Hillary ;stay focus.

Former CNN Watcher in California   January 14th, 2008 11:25 am ET

CNN:

DISGUSTING.

You perpetuate former President Clinton's lies in order to improve your own ratings. You gave him the front page in your politics section with PRECISELY the headline the Clinton campaign wanted. Did they send that to you or did you come up with it yourself?

With each day that passes, he acts less like a former President and more like a pedestrian political hack. No dignity, no statesmanship. Is this what we're going to send to the world to patch up our image?

Marko, Chicago IL   January 14th, 2008 11:26 am ET

The Clintons have become an absolute disgrace.

anonymous   January 14th, 2008 11:26 am ET

It's so funny how they keeping saying "Obma is making this about race" "I have a list of attacks". . . and I've yet to see or hear Obama say one thing that pulls race in to this campaign. What are the Clintons talking about? Someone please tell me if I missed something, but it seems like the Clintons are fighting with themselves. This is so sad because it has nothing to do with the issues on voters' minds and Cinton is going to convince the uninformed wolrd that Obama is playing some race card that he's never played!

ida   January 14th, 2008 11:26 am ET

I think they (Obama camp) are just looking for a misstep on Sen. Clinton's camp where they can go back and point fingers and accuse Hillary on the race factor.
But don't let them get to you………..you go girl………!

Shirley   January 14th, 2008 11:26 am ET

here is so much name calling now that i wonder if anyone listens to them anymore. They are like a bunch of children. You did too. Did not etc. They are hurting themselves. What I would like to see and hear is,"Now, here is what I am going to do about Iraq. Here is what I plan on doing about immigration. " Give us an insight as to what in the heck they would do about these mountainous problems.

anonymous   January 14th, 2008 11:27 am ET

I'm a democrat and would vote for McCain over Hillary in a heartbeat, if it it weren't for one thing. . . .The Supreme Court.

Eric   January 14th, 2008 11:27 am ET

It's sad to see a former president of the United State stoop this low in order to return to the White House. I am sure the Obama campaign is eagerly awaiting for President Clinton to release that list of 80 attacks. Don't leave the public hanging Bill, release your list!!

Let's see, we are moving to the future with a history and a possible future of: Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?

Jonathan in Chicago   January 14th, 2008 11:28 am ET

First, I gotta say I truly deplore this whole mess. For me, President Clinton served this country admirably, and the attacks made against him, and Hillary, during the waning years of his presidency were unwarranted and unfair. I imagine it is from this experience that the Clintons developed their default attack posture when on the defensive; they have repeatedly found it necessary to employ such tactics throughout their political careers and have become very adept at undermining opponents through indirect personal attacks and the like.

But, if your reading this Hillary, such tactics (particularly when directed against a fellow democrat) are counterproductive to your current campaign. You are a good and decent candidate and should allow your warmth and humanity (not your calculatedness and defensiveness) speak for you. You open yourself up to ridicule and engender distaste in those who would or might support you when you engage in this behavior. And, having President Clinton due your dirty work for you as surrogate doesn't distance you from the consequences; the electorate will hold you responsible for your husband's words and deeds in this campaign — particularly those sanctioned by your campaign and used to discredit opponents.

Second, I found Mr. Johnson's comments incredibly offensive, and his dishonesty insulting. To suggest that he was not referring to Obama's frank and honest admission of his early experiences with drugs is absurd…as the quote clearly indicates, he begins by praising the Clintons for their work in support of 'black issues' and then condemns Obama for what he was doing 'in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing but he said it in his book'– the Clinton campaign and Johnson then assert that he was referring to his community organizing and state rep work — in other words, the work Obama undertook as a civil right activist, a community organizer for black issues, and a strong and vocal advocate for his ALL of his constituents — regardless of color or ethnicity. Johnson was plainly referencing his admission of early drug use, because if he was in fact speaking of what he claims he was referencing, he would be offering no contrast between the Clintons and Obama at all - and would in fact be lending additional support and credibility to Obama's considerable experience as an advocate for civil rights.

Mr. Johnson, you were taking a very cheap shot and then lacked the courage and decency to hold yourself accountable for this failing. This is not leadership and shows a profound and disturbing lack of integrity; your lack of honesty and integrity is all the glaring, given that you attempt to do undermine another through his own courageous and admirable honesty and integrity. The Clinton Campaign should do the right thing, and demonstrate the leadership and integrity they model through a clear and unmistakable statement of accountability that disavows the comments made by Bob Johnson.

Inquiring Mind   January 14th, 2008 11:29 am ET

Through all of this supposed back and forth between Obama and Clinton. You have rarely heard Obama speak about this. He makes a statement and leaves it at that. While the Clintons keep going at it, and brining it up.. Now if Hillary Clinton said "I disagree" and went on, then go on, Lead by example.
I do agree that Bill was falsely accused of racist remarks saying Obamas campaign was a "fairy tales" because he was obviously speaking about Obamas war record, and Al Sharpton should have kept his nose of that one. But Obama remaining silent and remaining focused on the campaign not allow outside bickering cloud his focus is a sign of a good leader.

Dave L   January 14th, 2008 11:29 am ET

I've had it with both of them. What a pathetic show, especially from Bill - but then, he never was particularly interested in the condition of the Democratic Party. An egocentric thug.

Correen Schrenk   January 14th, 2008 11:30 am ET

Enough already. I'm tired. I want to go to bed tonight knowing I will wake up in the morning and know a year from now, my grandchildrens future will be safer, brighter and stable in all aspects. I want to vote. But, maybe I won't. Do you hear me me, MAYBE I won't. I'm tired of the nit-picking, I'm tired of the he said - she said. I don't want to hear what he or she might have said wrong. I want Hilary and Barack to tell me only of what they will do, to ease this heavy scared feeling I have toward all the tommorrows. If I want to hear squabbling, I'll go stand in the local gradeschool playground. Quit playing games, act like grownups. I want to see and hear strength. I can't vote for the worse of two evils. I did that in the last election. I want to vote for the best of the best, or not at all.

joli   January 14th, 2008 11:31 am ET

Please! You know Barak has no problem talking about about his teenage drug use. But heaven forbid if someone should "gasp" use it against him! PLEASE!!!! As far as im concerned… perhaps if he had been paying more attention in history class versus doing drugs he would know that the Civil Rights movement was about more than Martin Luther King Jr. Yes MLK was a huge proponent but did not act alone in the accomplishments that took place both inside and outside Washington. This is simply just a desperate use of playing the race card… and assumes the public is dumb on the topic of Civil Rights.

You got called out Obama… You can talk about change and hope all you want and compare yourself to the likes of MLK and JFK… but in the end these great men didnt just talk about it they acted and accomplished great things. You on the other hand are arrogant enough to compare yourself to these great men without having accomplished anything… which personally I find to be a greater insult to their legacy.

Bryan   January 14th, 2008 11:32 am ET

This kind of bunk is exactly why people are flocking to Sen. Obama! This is the type of change people wnat. It seems to me that he has remained out of the fray while Hillary continues to use personal attacks and mudslinging to regain her lead! The same tactics that she wailed on the republicans about she seems to be using! It makes me rethink the whole eight years Bill was in office! maybe they weren't as innocent as I had thought! It is sad but the more I hear from Hillary the more it makes me think that we would be better off with Joihn McCain if she does win the nomination! Please Hillary stop the attacks! I want to keep supporting you but you are making it increasingly difficult!

Josh   January 14th, 2008 11:32 am ET

The Clinton's are disgusting people and I have lost all respect for Bill…And I have never had any for Hillary, so that does not matter. If she won the nomination she would lose to the REP, because independents nor a good portion of DEM would vote her.

I can promise you Edwards and Obama supporters would not support her corrupt campaign of divisiveness and hate.

Jen, Gainesville, FL   January 14th, 2008 11:32 am ET

I am so sick of this Bill and have been convinced by the events before and since NH that the Clintons are doing everything they can to get elected. I used to have some respect for Hillary. Now no more and not at all.

Either Hillary is committing a career suicide by throwing the whole kitchen sink out to win or she thinks that enough American people can be fooled by her tricks. Wait and see.

OC   January 14th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I am confused…Who from Obama's camp made negative remarks about her reference to Lydon B. Johnsons involvement in civil rights? From everything I read it was "some" African-American leaders, not Barack Obama's camp. Obama did say it was "ill advised" but that was on Sunday….after her appearance on "Meet the Press".

If she feels any backlash from her comments it is because of what she said. I really wish Hillary and Bill will leave Barack alone and concentrate on a positive campaign.

Katherine   January 14th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Folks - more than one of you has said you're sick of this bickering from both camps. Plase, someone tell me what you have heard from the Obama camp, I haven't seen one disparaging comment or reaction from them, other than Obama's assertion that he has not reacted. He specifically said about the Johnson comment "what is there to react to". Why is he being accused of contributing to this bickering?

Allen   January 14th, 2008 11:35 am ET

I love you Bill, but stop whining.

MarkC   January 14th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Listen to the snide tone that Johnson uses when he says: " I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book."

Bill Clinton thinks that "community organizing" is what Johnson was talking about? Why wouldn't Johnson want to say Obama was doing "community organizing"?

I'm not sure whether to believe the suggestion that this is part of Operation "turn Obama's strength with black voters into wedge to drive away white voters." But here is what would happen if that was the case: a surrogate will trot out the word "uppity," Obama will win in South Carolina and someone will describe it as a "black tide," followed by a decisive Clinton win on Super Tuesday.

Blayze Kohime, Columbus OH   January 14th, 2008 11:36 am ET

So what's the difference, exactly, if she complains about it herself or has her husband do that for her? Who wants to be president, him or her?

Amelia   January 14th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Do we want 4 more years of this negativity and victim playing? The American public deserves a leader that will help unite us after too long divided. Its ok to disagree, but not ok to stoop so low as the Clintons routinely do. No to toxic politics! Go Obama!

Jack K.   January 14th, 2008 11:36 am ET

I guess now we've got to give equal time now for Obama's list of Bill and HIllary's attacks?

This makes me vomit.

Are they running for class President of the Harvard Law School….or for the President of The United States of America?

Even if Edwards doesn't get elected. I'm so tired of their (Obama and Clintons) well-healed, psycho-babble–if he doesn't run for President….I'm voting for McCain!!

Evan Tribley Columbus, OH   January 14th, 2008 11:37 am ET

Every single day Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton attack Barack Obama. On top of that, they contribute anything negative said about Hillary somehow came from Obama's campaign.

This is ridiculous. Bill is running the show, if it isn't obvious that a vote for Hillary we'll put them both back in power by now I don't know what will.

There is absolutely no change involved in the Clinton's campaign, it is nasty, it is lies, it is personal. For the love of all that is good don't vote for her.

There is absolutely no chance she will win a general election. She will receive no republican support. She will receive limited independent support. She certainly can't work with republicans, which will only further polarize the country.

Blayze Kohime, Columbus OH   January 14th, 2008 11:38 am ET

So what's the difference, exactly, if she complains about it herself or has her husband do that for her? Who wants to be president, him or her?

tennessee gurl   January 14th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Message to the Clinton's…GO AWAY. We dont want you anymore. We are tired of the politics of personal distruction. How about showing your ideas instead of attacking Obama?

RuthieM   January 14th, 2008 11:38 am ET

This is too bad. Why are they dragging this on and on? I think it's because they don't appreciate Obama fighting back like he does in defending himself against their bigoted statements as they try to turn it against Obama and say they are not bigoted but they are. They just don't want America to really know them. If they were not guilty they wouldn't keep commenting and calling black radio shows and appearing like they're doing. I think they have always thought black people less than them but would never act or say so. But that is why they've always gone out of their way to 'connect' with blacks, for photo op purposes, for political gain. It is only now that Barack Obama is gaining on Hillary that they can't accept it, that they refuse to accept it, meaning refuse to accept the black thing is gaining on them, their true colors showing.

Pady   January 14th, 2008 11:39 am ET

What a shame President Clinton,

What you are doing to America is indeed insane. We are in crisis and somebody trying to bring some balance to this Great Nation. What kind of president are you?
She really lost my vote and many more voters like me will just not vote for Hillary.

Period

Gina, Baltimore, Maryland   January 14th, 2008 11:39 am ET

I have always considered myself to be a die hard democrat. But after listening to Clinton, Obama, and Edwards sling mud, if McCain gets in, he'll have my vote. Please Hillary, wise up and just talk about the issues.

S Williams, Tampa   January 14th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Why is everybody always picking on us? - The Clintons (whining once again).

Amanda Orlando, FL   January 14th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Seriously, who sits around and compiles a LIST of attacks? This is just childish. I know the Obama campaign did something similar, which I thought was silly too, but their website listing Hilary's attacks on Obama struck me as somewhat humorous and mocking- which is precisely the point. The mud they've slung at Obama have been ridiculous, vague, unfounded, and overall below the belt. The "attacks" Obama has supposedly made on Hilary are simply defensive and generally true. Bill Clinton making a list of these supposed attacks and shouting them out for all too hear isn't going to create the havoc he's hoping for.

The Clinton campaign is throwing a tantrum, and it isn't helping them at all.

Drama   January 14th, 2008 11:40 am ET

A list of 80 attacks! I have been watching this campaign very closely and I have yet to hear attacks coming from the Obama camp. I have heard RESPONSES from the Obama camp when they were attacked.

Rada   January 14th, 2008 11:40 am ET

I know some people that get turned off with this back and forth but we all should be proud of the fact that they are fitting or your vote, your attention… We have a good selection of candidates in the Democratic side… WE ARE MAKING HISTORY!!! enjoy it.

rich judy   January 14th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Why is it so WRONG to point out Obama's insistance on a message of "CHANGE" and then do nothing to prove it. She and her husband did more for racial harmony in this country than just about anyone else. Obama wants "us" to elect him because he's black and that that in and of it'self should be his explanation of "CHANGE". Not good enough! Being a state senator for a couple of years and community activist just is'nt the "CHANGE" I had in mind to replace the current occupant.
We need "PROVEN" Leadership!! Not wannabe Presidential Leadership.
P.S. Obama campaign- Quit playing the race card-just because someone dares to call you on the carpet for something does'nt mean their racist! You DONT get a free pass to the whitehouse just because your black just ask Jesse Jackson or the other pillar of the black community..Al Sharpton!!

John Petty   January 14th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Actually, the Obama camp has been hitting Hillary pretty hard for quite some time now. They've been pretty deft about it, which is a tribute to the Obama camp's political skills, but it's definitely been going on.

Plus, I think both sides are making some fairly good points. Clinton says that Obama hasn't been all that anti-war, except for some speech he gave when he was a state senator. That's true. When Obama says the Clinton's are trying to "rewrite history," there is an element of truth in that too.

Race, of course, is a difficult issue, but–keep in mind–it has entered the campaign, not because somebody is a racist, but because both Clinton and Obama have strong support in the African-American community.

Pickles, Monaca, PA   January 14th, 2008 11:42 am ET

The Clintons are obviously in shock that someone besides Hillary might get the Democratic nomination. Their attacks on Obama speak volumes for their desperation. If Hillary needs to have her husband fight her battles for her, as he has done, she doesn't deserve to be President. In fact, with her crying and playing the "gender card," she has set back the women's movement.

stirlingmclaughlin   January 14th, 2008 11:42 am ET

The Clintons and Co. are trying to provoke Obama in to an angry response so they can paint him as the "angry black man" playing the "race card". So far it hasn't worked. We'll see…

John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA   January 14th, 2008 11:43 am ET

Did any of you really read that story. Here is the quote that almost made me projectile vomit across the room.

"I think we have to take it at his word," the former president told Martin, adding that "nobody knew" what Johnson would say, and "it wasn't part of any planned strategy."

JUST LIKE I TOOK YOUR WORD THAT YOU "DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMEN" AND YOU ALSO WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU "DID NOT INHALE".

Is that you want the American people to do Billy Boy, take your word as the bottom line truth and NOT question anything that comes out of your mouth.

That to me is the true colors of the clinton's. DO NOT QUESTION ME. TAKE OUR WORD, WE WOULD NOT LIE TO YOU.

Out of Context !   January 14th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Reporting news without context. Context isn't just important, it's everything — especially in these days of insta-pickup by blogs and online news sites, where just a snippet of text is enough to launch a million clicks.

Bill Clinton's quote, was part of a larger comment on Obama's representation of his Iraq war position not his campaign or its message!

The conflagration over Bill Clinton's "Fairytale" comment, made on January 7th at Dartmouth College, before the New Hampshire primary, explodes over the past few days as an issue of race. Yes, race — that scary third rail of politics around which everyone tiptoes — suddenly an issue around a comment made by a guy once known as "America's First Black President

Here's what it morphed into in the media: BILL CLINTON CALLS OBAMA'S MESSAGE OF HOPE AND INSPIRATION A FAIRYTALE! HE THINKS OBAMA'S DREAM FOR BLACK AMERICA IS A FAIRYTALE!

New York Times, Jan. 11th: "[Former President Clinton] described Mr. Obama's campaign narrative as a fairy tale."

The Politico, Jan 11th: "…Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama's image in the media as a 'fairy tale'"

BreitbartTV, Jan. 8th, which hosted the full clip yet chose to headline it in the most inflammatory (and inaccurate) way possible: "Bill Clinton Fumes About Obama: 'Biggest Fairy Tale I've Ever Seen'"

Same NYT article, quoting someone else incorrectly framing the comment: "[Rep. James E. Clyburn (D-SC)] saw the remark as a slap at the image of a black candidate running on a theme of unity and optimism. "To call that dream a fairy tale, which Bill Clinton seemed to be doing, could very well be insulting to some of us."

Maureen Dowd, NYT, Jan 9th: "Bill churlishly dismissed the Obama phenom as 'the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.'"

Donna Brazile on CNN, Jan. 8th: "For him to go after Obama, using a fairy tale, calling him as he did last week. It's an insult. And I will tell you, as an African-American, I find his tone and his words to be very depressing."

I've got a feeling CNN won't post this either. (ARgh!)

Jr., California   January 14th, 2008 11:47 am ET

No!!! Bill No!!!

Valdez   January 14th, 2008 11:49 am ET

"I'm just a Bill, yes I'm only a Bill and I want a vote for my wife named Hill". Well, Well, Well. Look at what we've come to. A former President of the United States of America willing to say anything just so he can payback his wife for embarassing/humiliating her while he was in the White House. Ain't the something?

saintholyman   January 14th, 2008 11:50 am ET

clintons equal controversy .

Eric Evans   January 14th, 2008 11:51 am ET

Hillary was just trying to articulate the importance of selecting good Presidents. Barak knew that. I was voting for him. Now, I don't know.

Oscar, Rio Vista, CA   January 14th, 2008 11:51 am ET

Hilary is now personally offended by people misinterpreting her remarks about Martin Luther King. Well, Hilary please tell me what Johnson had to do with the civil rights? You brought it up… now explain exactly what you mean. Don't go on TV saying you were misinterpreted without explaining exactly what you mean.

I heard your words in your stump speech and I heard them again on FOX. I know what you were saying because you made it pretty clear.

Lauren   January 14th, 2008 11:53 am ET

From the point of view of a registered Independent, I see this whole thing as incredibly sad. The Democratic party is going to be ripped in half before the general election race even begins. If the Clintons don't want it to be about race, then stop talking about race. Stop blaming the other campaign for their "attacks" and "distortion" of your remarks. Just set the record straight, clarify what you meant to say, and move on. All political campaigns attack the other campaigns. That's the way it works. I'm sure Obama and Edwards could come up with equally long lists of the "attacks" the Clinton campaign has put forth. Barack Obama never raised the issue of race before this point because it clearly will not help him or anyone else. So why would he start now? He never even commented on the Clinton's comments until yesterday. It's not in his control if people in the community voice their opinions on Clinton's statement. This whole thing is brining out the worst in people–including the people on these blogs. Let's just move on, stop playing the blame game. Nobody needs to be "proud" of anyone else–they are all adults with incredible political and personal achievements who are doing something incredibly difficult in running for president. And whoever wins the nomination, the others are going to need to step up and support that person so the Democrats can stand united and beat the Republicans. All this spin is divisive and pointless–and it gives the Republicans ammo. Is that what the Democrats are really trying to achieve?

KFB   January 14th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Edwards looks better and better every day!

Wen   January 14th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Obama hasn't done anything yet, how could he compare himself to Dr. King and JFK? That's bluffing.
The Americans can not afford screw-up another 4 years by choosing a wrong president.

James Martin   January 14th, 2008 11:53 am ET

We are being led down the wrong path by allowing the media tell us who are strong in this process. There has been little mention of the real force for change JOHN EDWARDS.

Right Wing   January 14th, 2008 11:54 am ET

Hillary is not complaining. She has Bill to do that for her. Does he cry also or will Hillary have to do her own?

charlotte   January 14th, 2008 11:55 am ET

This is going to be a loooooooong 9 mos. At least maybe Super Tuesday will put to rest the in-fighting, we will be able to consentrate on taking back the white house, as united democrats!

Sue in Raleigh   January 14th, 2008 11:55 am ET

Come on folks. Although this started when Obama denied his uncondititonal support of the war in Iraq. His record is not different from Hillary's. You can check out their voting records online. In fact, it is of interest that of the many, many numerous votes Obama missed, he never missed the opportunity to vote to continue funding the war in Iraq.

I don't want the war funded and I am not happy about Hillary's vote on it. But, when it comes right down to who voted how, their voting record is identical. And, that is the fairy tale Bill Clinton was talking about…not Obama's campaign or drive to get to the White House, it was about Obama denying his voting record….it is a fairy tale if he denies what it is.

Jean, Sacramento   January 14th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Good! Someone needs to stand up for integrity and call down the Obama campaign for their dirty politicking.

Hillary has run a clean campaign, never twisting or distorting Obama's record. She doesn't have to. Anyone looking at it carefully can see his entire political career has been lackluster and driven more by ambition than anything else. During his one term as an Illinois senator, he repeatedly voted "present" to avoid taking a stand on issues that might be deemed unpopular later when he made his bid for the presidency. He spent most of his 2 years as a U.S. senator campaigning for president. Now he has to rely on poetic, soaring rhetoric, along with lies and distortions about Clinton's character and record, throwing out mud and hoping some of it will stick. What a way to run a campaign!

When Obama pretended to be above receiving money or help from lobbyists, Hillary called him on it by mentioning that the Chair of the Obama Campaign in New Hampshire is Jim Demers, a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, she stands up for herself against his smears and to show the disingenuous nature of his campaign. Her criticism of Obama is based on truth, not distortions. It is her right and her duty to keep it honest.

Many of us think it is great when wives and husbands go out on the campaign trail in an attempt to get their spouse's message out. Bill Clinton has been doing a good job of that and saying it like it is. On the other hand, Michelle has been delivering an even dirtier campaign message than her husband by blatantly playing the race card in southern states. Notice that there is no coverage of her appearances there; we never hear about them because they are so potentially damaging to her husband.

Lisa   January 14th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Bill thought that Hillary's teary eye was effective - so now he is going to cry. How is Hillary going to handle people like Castro, and Chavez if she needs Bill to defend her by the "nice" guy Obama? Do you remember Hillary accusing Obama as being too nice to be President before he won the Iowa primary?

mountain man   January 14th, 2008 11:56 am ET

So much for the politics of hope. I guess we all knew Obama couldn't live up to his hype.

NO Hillary   January 14th, 2008 11:56 am ET

I am so sick of the Clinton campaign throwing these kinds statements out there then saying they didn't mean it…… it was taken out of context……..poor Little Miss Sunshine Hillary is being attacked for no reason. I cannot see how voters can fall for this crap.

I hope Obama can keep it together and remain above all of this. They are trying so hard to get him to snap and say something that will destroy his campaign then Clinton will sit back , wide-eyed, and say "Who me? I didn't mean it that way".

These people are evil - they will do anything for power. I am not just against her being elected, I am AFRAID of her being elected. Honestly, I would keep Bush in the White House before I would ever support HC. I am a Democrat, but if Hillary is the nominee, I will vote Republican no matter WHO it is: Huckabee, Romney, whatever.

Hillary is disgusting and anyone that would vote for her is "living in a fairy tale".

Jason, Wilmette, IL   January 14th, 2008 11:57 am ET

anonymous wrote:

"I'm a democrat and would vote for McCain over Hillary in a heartbeat, if it it weren't for one thing. . . .The Supreme Court."

Very good post. That is the dilemma that I, like many democrats, will have.

Clinton's attacks on Obama are pathetic. Anyone knows that Obama was against the war and Clinton voted for it. What is more unbelievable is Clinton's explanation of her vote (the one called "Resolution Authorizing the Use of Force") - IHer explanation - I thought we were just helping Bush with the inspection process. I din't think Bush was going to invade. Thus, her whole defense is essentially I was naive. Please, who is she kidding? I've heard people say a lot of things about Hillary - but I've never heard anyone call her naive.

Katy Hill Prescott Az.   January 14th, 2008 11:57 am ET

The Clintons, who seem to be running for office as a team, are becoming exceedingly ugly in their attacks and their efforts to unify a divided country while they divide the Democratic party are going down the tubes. If they don't stop they will assure a Republican win in November.

Gabe Polson, The Woodlands,TX   January 14th, 2008 11:58 am ET

If Obama is going to do this much whining during the Democratic primary just imagine how much he will complain when he has to go up against a more seasoned republican. He does not have the strength to win a general election. He is like the kid in the sandbox who won't share his toys. He proves his own point that it takes a leader to win the White house. Yes, his campaign,not his race, is a FAIRYTALE!!!!

He is trying to split up the Democratic party. How will he unite the country when he is destroying his own party.

john williams san diego, ca.   January 14th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

Bubba, quit promoting Hillary. You'll get enough 'free time' after she returns to the Senate.

Leo, TX   January 14th, 2008 12:02 pm ET

C'mon, Bill. You come across as a big whiner. If you and Hillary hadn't been involved in the past in so much seedy behavior, there wouldn't be any ammunition for your adversaries to use. Truth be told, YOU are your own worst enemy.

Philippa Durst   January 14th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

Meanwhile Mrs Clinton's husband seems campaigning more than she does, and for a Billary presidency. I would prefer that he wouldn't get involved at all, so the voters at least can feel or hope, that she is strong and can do the job and make out what she herself has to say, and concentrate on her. Bill Clinton doesn't help her that much after all, because of his well known charisma that makes people feel, if it wasn't for him, she wouldn't be able to reach the so much cherished White House.

Linda~n~Wisconsin   January 14th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

Why can't people stick to what the story is above that they are commenting on? Without knowing any of the above players in person, I don't feel I can comment honestly on their personalities. Without seeing the entire speech that was given on Sunday I can not comment on what was said. Without hearing the entire conversation that was given on the radio show today, I can not comment on what was said.

Are you sure you are just not getting the pundits and media's take on these issues? These people are just giving comments that are taken out of content to make headlines, AKA ratings, and money.

We all want a change in our country, a change that any new president will bring.

Wallace Young, Atlanta Georgia   January 14th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

I'm a 32 year old college educated, southern African American male and I feel compelled to comment on the latest political dust up between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. I admire the Clintons for their service to this country. One of the reasons that they are so disliked by the right is their commitment to African American and minority issues. Their positions on affirmitive action, the economy, grants, student loans, planned parenting, taxes, and other issues are pro minority. Now, I understand that the Clintons are not perfect, but as an African American I appreciate the fact that have shown through their actions and deeds that they are for racial equality and fair treatment of all citizens.

With that said, I partially agree with Mr. Johnson comments regarding the Clintons committment to African Americans. I too, am insulted that some would think the Clintons are racist or somehow do not respect African Americans. "Actions speak louder than words."

In regards to Mr. Johnson's comments about Senator Obama's activities, I beleive he was referencing the Senator's drug use. While this may have been tacky, the fact remains he did not say it. Therefore, although he implied it, he did not say it.

I am one to speak my mind and the truth is, Senator Obama did use drugs and it might be an issue for the Republicans to use in the fall. "The truth is the light" Thus, Senator Obama and his supporters should acknowledge the fact that their candidate does have flaws. At the end of the day Senator Obama is still a human being.

Senator Clinton has taken a stand on issues that have not always been ppular,. She and President Clinton stood by African Americans when there was no "Senator Obama". I know my view is different from alot of fellow young African Americans, but I am not going to toss Senator Clinton and President Clinton aside for Senator Obama's likeability, charisma, and eloquence. I appreciate Senator Obama's positions and I feel he represents African Americans very well. He is a great representative for our people. No one can take that from him.

However, Senator Clinton and President Clinton have fought a good fight and I believe they will continue to fight the good fight for all Americans.

GO HILLARY GO!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave   January 14th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Bill Clinton has completely destroyed any and all of his positive “legacy” that he had been working so hard to build up since leaving office. I’m so disgusted with both Clinton’s that if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination I’m voting for Bloomberg.

Matt   January 14th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

I was a campus organizer in college for Bill Clinton's first campaign and always a big fan. The way he and Senator Clinton have behaved and conducted this campaign has certainly dulled my admiration for their work. They seem so craven on winning, that they forget that we all aren't required to vote for her if she is the eventual nominee. When you attack a candidate like Obama in the way they have been doing, it really makes it very challenging to support her in any way should she win.

SecondSage   January 14th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

It's getting worse and worse. The Clintons are dating themselves with their politics. Mud slinging was appropriate to combat Bush in '92. Bill, you should see yourself we forgave you for infedelity in the late 90's, that era of mud slinging should be over. People of today don't want someone perfect but of impeccible integrity.

Obama is not stepping down in the trences with you. He's not playing that game. He's not even trying to be a black president but just a president. He only referenced MLK as a homage to those before him, Hilary tried to spin it.

Message to the Clintons, Obama is flying all over you with the high road. Keep in mind however, he does have the right to defend himself.

Nelson, Colorado Springs Co   January 14th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

When will this end. Two Clinton against one Obama. The Republicans don't need to launch any attack ads on the Democrats….They're doing a good enough job on each other.

mike   January 14th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

It seems a stretch to me that many of the comments being deemed as "racial" are premeditated - it is a no win situation for any candidate. Some may be, and seem "clever" or "calculating" but can't be effective in the long term. All candidates want to be seen as the person who "brings us all together". The candidate who is able to stop this in it's tracks would deserve the nomination.

I believe the smart Obama campaign will attempt this because of his bargaining strategy. He is the bargainer, while the supporters of Obama are the challengers. It is the only way he can win. The challengers' anger can spur guilt and anger among whites. Sad, but true.

Hillary is also smart. I wouldn't count her out of this strategy. If she is smart, her message should emphasize a "community of faith" with unique individuals that are not individualistic - which can transcend any squabble, racial or not, as small - and also opens the door to forgiveness which is the only thing, in the end, that can truly bring us all together.

Marge Smith   January 14th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

I think that there is a black/white issue in the campaign. I don't think that America has moved that far away from racism that we are ready to elect a Black man as
president. Iowa, as we have seen. does not represent the U.S.
Senator Obama talks about uniting the country. He needs to approach the Black
radio stations and convey that message to them. They spend a lot of time dogging
out Hillary Clinton and then become very sensitive about any remarks she makes.
They take such issue with her remark about Martin Luther King. She is right.
The political process was needed to bring that" dream"to fruition. She is not taking
anything from Martin Luther King. She was just saying that the political process and the activist process go hand in hand. I realize there is a lot of excitement
in the Black community about the possibility of a Black president. They must realize
this is light stuff compared to what the Republicans have in store for Obama if
he gets the Democratic nomination.. Furthermore, were he to win the presidency,
is he going to be a president for Blacks only, or for the whole USA?
LET'S GET A GRIP AND TRY TO GET BACK TO THE ISSUES.

Dessa   January 14th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

I'm so tired of hearing "so-&-so said this bad thing" or "so-&-so said that". For crying out loud, maybe the media should be paying a little more attention (I've noticed that since NH the only press coverage I'm really seeing is the Clinton's whining, and nothing really on Obama or Edwards) to the real issues instead of the hollywood-gossip-style complaining that they have been.

Bill put together a list? Good grief, could we get out of high school and return to the presidential campagin?

luis   January 14th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

I love this… THIS IS DEMOCRACY!!!! let them fight for my vote…. please people relax is just politics… WE ARE MAKING HISTORY IN THE DEMOCRATIC SITE!!!! ENJOY IT… They are playing for keeps and fighting for your vote…

TiredofNonsense   January 14th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Wah Wah, I'm tired of hearing the Clintons are being 'picked' on.

joli   January 14th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

This is ridiculous. Obama shouldnt be comparing himeslf to MLK or JFK these great leaders both spoke and accomplished a great deal. And its not rocket science that MLK wasnt alone in the civil rights movement when it came to change. So for Obama to say Clinton should step back because she attributes others to helping the movement as well… makes him look like and idiot. For that amount of stupidity OBama perhaps was preoccupied back when he should have been paying more attn in history class.

Obama is arrogant to even compare himself to the like of such men… because out side of just talking he hasnt accomplished anything leadership wise in moving this country forward…. and that… to me… is in itself an insult to the legacy of both JFK and MLK.

Phillip   January 14th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

Sorry, but I just don't see how Hillary's or Bill's comments diminish in any way the legacy of Dr. MLK. This uproar over the remarks sounds to me like the Obama people are just jumping on whatever they can to play the race card in SC.

No one is a saint here, but those comments on MLK were blown way out of proportion.

danielo   January 14th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

TIME TO MOVE ON CLINTONS…. AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ENJOYING THIS DIRTY GAME PLAYING IT HURTS AND DIVIDES THE DEMS AND MAKES PEOPLE APATHETIC TO POLITICS!!!

Rich In Seattle   January 14th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

This is just what we don't need, more of the same. A Clinton in the white house will be more of this, over and over again. Every day I dislike Hillary more and more and I like Obama more and more. At this rate Hillary and Bill will do more to make sure a Republican is in the white house than all of the GOP put together.

McCain-in-4   January 14th, 2008 12:20 pm ET

Former President Clinton is usually more savy. If this were his campaign, he would never allow public finger pointing to this extreme to a fellow democrat - any such list would have been used to keep his campaign on the same level as his competitors. But now he looks to be a very agressive advocate for whom he wholeheartedly supports.

A good piece of advice - make up with Barack Obama with the same level of publicity, and keep it civil. If McCain makes it to the General Election, there cannot be any remembered animosity between an excellent P/VP pair and instead must be capable of working together.

Barack & Hillary cannot play this to win any all costs, because we have seen seven years of this attitude and it's sickening.

Sara   January 14th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Please stick to the issues that concern us…we the people…character bashing is non-productive…there are more serious issues at hand…anything thing to win? It's the how you played the game!

Shawn, Cincinnati OH   January 14th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

As nice as an 'issues' primary would be going forward, the total difference in positions between the two when it comes down to it is nil with the exception of Hillary's war vote.

So, with no real advantage to them, the Clintons go back to what they do best.. destroy the opposition. Let's not forget who coined the term 'vast right winged conspiracy'.

The notion that Hillary will unite the nation, even if she does win, is laughable.

Prayu   January 14th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

There isn't a thing the Republicans can do to Obama, that Hillary isn't attempting right now.

He's got more Republican cross-over votes than any other Democratic candidate, he's got a firm hold on the youth vote, and people in Washington genuinely like him.

And Bill Clinton is full of garbage as usual. Hillary doesn't complain about attacks? Please, she whines about getting picked on and has run the most negative campaign out of any of the Democratic candidates. Even in her "emotional" moment, she goes on the rabid attack against Obama.

I'll vote for either Edwards or Obama, but if Hillary wins the nomination… 3rd party for me.

PW Va   January 14th, 2008 12:25 pm ET

This is how "expereienced" politicians like Hillary muddy the waters by attempting to take the focus off of the REAL issues that every day Americans are needing solutions for.

Hillary and her husband started this whirlpool of lies and innuedos and then upped the ante by insinuating Bob Johnson (a disaster waiting to happen) into the mix and …voila…we now have the divisiveness that the Clinton's have prayed would happen going into SC., leaving the door wide open for the Republicans to win in November.

THANK YOU, Hillary and Bill…you have just single-handedly thrown the entire nation under the bus…in one fell swoop!!!

By the way…the "35 years of expereience" that Hillary is always touting ALMOST (she'd NEVER tell the real truth) add up to the 33 years she's been married to Bill. Is that the "expereience" you're referring to, Hillary??? Heaven help us, if it is!!!

ANTI-Republican/PRO American   January 14th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Something about Obama really scares the Hillary camp, I don't know what it is, but something has them terrified.

"HOW DARE OBAMA TAKE HILLARY'S SELF GIVEN RIGHT TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE US"

Having said that, of the top three Democrats are head and shoulders above to anything (whatever the heck they are) on the Republican side.

Angela   January 14th, 2008 12:32 pm ET

I am really glad that Bill brought up a list of attacks the Obama campaign has been hurling. they have been subtly proding Hillary for a while now and she hasn't reacted until now.

Mr. Obama, this business of accusing the Clintons of race-baiting when there was clearly none, just shows you up to be using the same underhanded, tried and true tactics that all politicans have used in the past. nothing new. no change.

If you were smart you would have used this as an opportunity to show that you are different and are willing to show the Change you speak of so much and prove to your your opponents what real Change is.
You should have not reacted at all and that would have been real Change.
Instead, you feigned being insulted on behalf of Black voters just to push their buttons. And consequently stirred up this squable between you and Hillary.
You, at some point said you wouldn't run a negative campaign but you seem to be doing just that.

A swing and a miss Mr. Obama. Your showing yourself to be just another politican.
No Change here.

You and Hiilary better kiss and make up or we will have more Republicans wrecking this country.

Noel Bynum, Winston Salem, NC   January 14th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

All of you have to realize that these politicians all lodge complaints against eachother, that's their job. But it is our job to evaluate these claims. The Clintons have done great things for America, we should be so lucky to have smart talented leader like Hillary for president. And they are not "mudslinging", Obama is. Obama has consistently tried to attack her personally, on a character basis, rather than arguing her about experience or public policy. Because he knows if he does that he will lose. Hillary has simply taken these attacks, and disproved them because they are dumb and illogical, and have little legitimate reasoning. The more people try to attack her the stronger she seems to become. People try to dehumanize her and make her out to be some awful despot but more and more Americans are seriously looking at her now and changing her mind. She has dedicated her life to public service, expanding health care, education, and women's rights. And has taken the brunt of much undeserved criticism because she has dramatically changed the role of women in the U.S.

SD   January 14th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

The Clinton campaign is the one perpetuating this ugliness, but yet again they take no responsibility for their divisive actions. It's ALWAYS somebody else's fault. They do not act in an adult manner, and instead choose to malign Senator Obama, a candidate who does behave and has behaved in exemplary fashion. By spewing their invective garbage they want to taint everyone around them in an effort to obscure the truth.

They have lied about Senator Obama's CLEAR and CONSISTENT oppostition to the Iraq war because Senator Clinton's record with regard to the war just doesn't bear up under close scrutiny, nor does former President Clinton's assertion that he was "against the Iraq war from the start." They made their choices but do not want to be held accountable, instead preferring to pass their MISJUDGEMENTS onto others rather than own up to them and move on.

Rather than promote her own agenda, Senator Clinton & the Clinton campaign prefer to invoke an appeal to people's worst instincts. After all, if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth…or so they hope. They make unfortunate comments that under the most innocent interpetation are insulting, and instead of simply saying they meant no disrespect, they pass the blame onto the Obama campaign, who stayed ABOVE the fray. After all why take responsibility for their choices when they can sully ( or attempt to at any rate) the reputation of a good man.

I keep thinking of a line I first heard in the Disney movie Mulan: No matter how much the wind howls, a mountain cannnot bow to it.

The Clinton campaign seems intent on trying to lessen Senator Obama's stature, but in the attempt, they merely shame themselves.

David, Dallas Tx   January 14th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Many believe Johnson made a veiled reference to Obama's drug use as a young man, though he insists that was not his intention.

"I think we have to take it at his word," the former president told Martin, adding that "nobody knew" what Johnson would say, and "it wasn't part of any planned strategy."

This is sad. At least the two previous times Clinton campaigners slung dirt, Hillary admitted it, even if she spun it as “unauthorized” afterwards.

But on occasion #3, they're trying a new tactic. "That? That wasn't dirt."

Three times is a pattern. You don't see any other campaigns repeatedly dishing out "unauthorized" dirt. Methinks I see a campaign slinging dirt while pretending to cleanliness.

Besides, even if Slick Willie is right, what does it say about a campaign that's criticizing someone's community service!?

caywen   January 14th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Clintons are underhanded and driven solely by the desire to live in the White House. Seriously, do you think America will elect Hillary Clinton? I don't think so - she firmly has a third of the population dead set against her, so she'll lose to any of the Republicans. She has game against other Democrats but has absolutely no game against he Republican attack machine which will make her campaign a joke.

Seriously, when a huge number of Democrats fail to vote this November because they can't stand their own candidate, the Republicans will crush us. And, honestly, even as a Democrat, I'd rather have Huckabee than Hillary in the White House.

Terry   January 14th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Wow!

The Clinton's really know how to make more people dislike them. They are so polarizing and this country really doesn't need them.

I'm an undecided indenpendent but I know for sure I will NOT vote for Hillary.

Amy   January 14th, 2008 12:36 pm ET

I have seen enough to make my decision, I am not going back on it, I would never vote for Hillary Clinton if she were the only candidate. She is not genuine, her campaign is involved in the most dirty politics, and I don't want this to continue. I am firmly voting for Barack Obama. And if she does makes it to the general, I am voting Republican.

Chuck Beaver   January 14th, 2008 12:36 pm ET

This is how her whole Presidency would be. Her running to Bill to protect her.

Scott, Royal Oak, MI   January 14th, 2008 12:38 pm ET

this is such a joke. what attacks, Bill? I'd love to see your list.

Oh and this whole "Obama is criticizing Hillary for her race-related comments thing"? NOT HAPPENING, DIDNT HAPPEN, WON'T HAPPEN. This is yet another fabrication of the Clinton campaign.

As Obama has recently said:
"For them somehow to suggest we're injecting race as a consequence of a statement she made that we haven't commented on is pretty hard to figure out,"

FIRSTWOMAN4PRES   January 14th, 2008 12:38 pm ET

We are ready for the first female president? Hmmm… So let me get this straight SHE sticks her HER foot in her mouth, regarding the civil rights movement. When NOBODY was thinking or even talking about it, and she brings out the most deplorable black male figure Bob Johnson to defend her. Back in NH, when she thought she was in trouble of losing a truly sincere woman (who by the way voted for Obama) asked her how does she get up every morning "she cries" in order to get the sympathy vote. NOW she is having trouble in SC, and she brings out her HUSBAND BIG BILL to take on the the people that don't like her. So this is what we can expect if SHE is commander in chief? Cry, lie, and if that doesn't work send out finger wagging BIll saying you stop messing with MY woman!!! This is pathetic.

Scott, Royal Oak, MI   January 14th, 2008 12:40 pm ET

this is typical Clinton political strategy: FLING STUFF EVERYWHERE. Doesn't matter whether it's true or not. Sooner or later, if you fling enough garbage, some of the trash will stick in peoples minds.

I HATE THIS TYPE OF POLITICS!!!

Terry   January 14th, 2008 12:42 pm ET

The media need to do a story about how polarizing the Bill and Hillary really is. They really strongly divide a lot of people and make the Republicans look good.

Ann   January 14th, 2008 12:42 pm ET

Oh yes "the issues", wouldn't that be nice. It is not the interests of the media to have anyone talk issues, it is controversy they want. What was the first thing Russert asked Hillary Clinton about? Why "the controversy" of course! Your best bet is to quit watching TV.

Christian, Tampa FL   January 14th, 2008 12:44 pm ET

As if the Obama campaign couldn't compile a large list of the Clinton campaign attacks?

This back and forth is getting kind of dumb. I think Hillary needs to really ditch Bill; I don't like the idea of her relying on him to get elected. She needs to demonstrate her presidential prowess, not his.

And it is my experience that the Obama campaign has always been a bit more civil than the Clinton camp, so I think bill should be careful about what viper's nests he stirs up.

John, Kansas City, MO   January 14th, 2008 12:45 pm ET

I would like to see the list of 80 attacks as well. As far as I can tell, Obama and Edwards are the two Democratic candidates doing the least mudslinging. And on the Repugnant-can side, the only one not slinging mud isn't even a Republican.

Obama/Paul in 2008!

Mauri   January 14th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

How on earth do Barak Obama and John Edwards expect to get elected to anything concerning leadership of this country. I cannot believe what is coming out of their mouths, but thank goodness they're saying it now instead of waiting until they get into a leadership role.

Edwards: Criticises Clinton for putting down Dr.King's civil rights accomplishments compared to some "Washington politician!" Is he kidding???? No person, President or otherwise, EVER did more to promote racial equality than President Johnson did. JFKennedy couldn't do it, but Johnson - with his EXPERTISE and experience of moving bills through the congress –got it done. I hope you both note the word "EXPERIENCE." This followed Dr. King's imploring him to do it shortly after Kennedy's death.

I would be ASHAMED if I were John Edwards to sink that low. Also, for Mr. Edwards' edification — it was Lyndon Johnson, working with President Roosevelt, that delivered programs to the people most harshly affected by the depression. And it is John Edwards who talks about what he will do for the middle class when he is president. We pray to God that will never happen. Us middle-class citizens don't want him, thank you!

Obama: Fans the fires about Hillary's remarks concerning President Johnson and Martin Luther King. Give us a break! Our message to him would be to cancel all that hatred mess and tell us once and for all, what your plans are if you are elected.

I hope these two iknow that Hillary has many supporters in rewarding her for what she has already done for our country. WE'RE already sick of how they are putting her down — and be assured there are many, many more who are seeing through the dirty remarks of these two men. She will win!!!

Jack K.   January 14th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

I wonder what she'll do in Nevada.

She'll probably describe how tough it is to cook dinner and mop the floors and bake cookies every night–before they can catch up on their emails–naturally with a tearful expression to grab at the heart strings!!

Of course…this lady has prepared a meal for herself since she lived in Arkansas!

Kathy   January 14th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

I am not a Hillary supporter, nor am I an Obama supporter at this time, but in Hillary's defense - after John Kerry rolled over and did NOT fight for himself when he was shamelessly "swift-boated", I'm happy that Hillary isn't turning the other cheek. She must defend herself against all attacks - and she is. If this were a man defending himself, they would think he was strong.

Having said that, Folks - let's split the baby and vote for John Edwards!!

Vince Los Angeles, CA   January 14th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

You Hillary lovers are the epitome of irrationality and ignorance. I will NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton…I don't care WHO she is running against. Furthermore, if she is elected as the Democratic nominee, I will IMMEDIATELY change my party to Independant. Hillary's campaign stands for everything I'm against. I think it's DISGUSTING that you people are so willing to give him a pass after he said he "didn't inhale" when he was running and the blatant LIES both of them have told over the years. For all of you to attack Obama which such hatred…….I'm done….I no longer want to be a DemocRAT

vwcat   January 14th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

That list of attacks by the Obama campaign is probably in the same realm as
"I did not have sexual…" or "I was against the Iraq war.."
or any number of imaginary things in Bill's head.
For over a year i keep reading democrats worried about the republican attack machine. I think they need to look at the Clinton one first. They are far more vicious than the republicans could ever think to be - and I'm a democrat.
The Clintons are becoming a total embarrassment to the party and I hope my fellow democrats reject them and their nasty 90s style politics.

Cathy   January 14th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

CLINTONS LEAVE OBAMA ALONE. STOP THE CLINTON BULLY MACHINE.

Jackie   January 14th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

Come on people. BOTH camps are playin politics. Can you blame them, really?

We saw Kerry get crushed in the general for not playing and I don't think Clinton or Obama want that to happen to them.

On issues though, I gotta go with Hillary.

PAUL   January 14th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

WHY DO WE NEVER SEE OBAMA'S DAUGHTER AND WHY IS HIS WIFE NEVER INTERVIEWED? WHY DOES HIS WIFE NEVER INTRODUCE HIM? IS THIS A STRATEGY OF THE OBAMA CAMP TO KEEP HIS FAMILY OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT? IT APPEARS SO AND I WONDER WHY. I ALSO WONDER VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THIS. DO HIS STRATEGISTS BELIEVE THEY HURT HIM? I THINK SO…MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE SHE COULD WIN A CONDALEEZA RICE LOOK A LIKE CONTEST…….

Eric, MD   January 14th, 2008 12:49 pm ET

I guess the politics of hope should be reconsidered; the politics of dope is more like it….

Ted   January 14th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Just who is running for office……. Bill or Hillary?? It's amazing, the guy can't stay out of the spotlight at any cost. Can you imagine if Hillary actually WON??? This is just the tip of the iceberg, and the White House would be more divisive than ever. We are better off with a Republican president, and a Dem majority in the Congress for balances. (unless it was Biden, who I have some faith in) Obama needs to stay in the Senate, as does Hillary. I actually like some of Hillary's votes, and this way Obama can just actually vote!! As a Republican, nobody does much for me either, but we are better off with McCain.

Nomad   January 14th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Bill Clinton, please stifle!!!!!

Joe