(CNN) - Hillary Clinton is jumping at recent comments from rival Barack Obama during which the Illinois senator seemed to suggest he isn't exactly a details guy.
In an interview with Bloomberg Television, the New York Democrat said she was "taken aback" by Obama's admission that he wouldn't act like a "Chief Operating Officer" if he was elected president.
"I think it’s important that we have a president who understands that you have to run the government," she said.
Obama told an editorial meeting with the Reno Gazette-Journal Monday that he has a "pretty good sense of my strengths and my weaknesses."
“I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can, and I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can bridge differences ... better than I can," he said. “But I’m not an operating officer. Some in this debate around experience seem to think the job of the president is to go in and run some bureaucracy. Well, that’s not my job. My job is to set a vision of 'here's where the bureaucracy needs to go.'"
Then, at the Democratic debate Tuesday night, Obama seemed to suggest he tends to be disorganized.
"I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,” said Obama.
Speaking Wednesday, Clinton said the presidency requires someone who is "hands on."
"We all need to be inspirational and set goals, and I’ve been doing that throughout this campaign. We need to set big goals for our standing in the world, for our economy, to deal with energy and health care and so much else that is really on the minds of the people who talk to me as I go in and out of their homes, Peter. That’s what they’re talking to me about,” she said.
"After you set the goals and you give the speeches, you go back to the White House and you start holding people accountable and you want to know what they’ve done today to help the American people," added Clinton. "You’ve got to take on this government, you’ve got to run this government, you can’t leave it to others.
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Haha,
Hillary, you need to shut up right now because you know we watched you last night and you fumbled on different issues such as education. People here in Nevada don't believe anything coming out of your mouth!
What have ever managed before that we can compare with Obama? Hillary Please stop pulling Obama's legs focus on your own issues. Obama has managed a successful community in south side of chicago and organized a historical turn out to vote in Iowa. We are Americans, may be you need to Move to Canada and lie there because I am all tired with your lies.
Hillary vote is guaranteed Bush third term.
Obama 08,12!
I think this lady is in love with Obama,she can't keep his name out of her mouth Obama this Obama that.
Here she goes again. Why can't she just stick to what SHE can do instead of talking about Obama. I think she admires him as much as I do and that's why she's ALWAYS talking about him.
How does this woman expect me to believe her and anything she says?
No wonder Obama is likable and will be truthful with American people from day one!
another cheap shot of Hillary. The American people need an honest person.
OBAMA 08 ..all the way..
What a dumb thing to make an issue out of.
Since when has filing papers and cleaning desks been part of the job description for President of the United States? I sincerely wish Mrs. Clinton would quit these nonsensical attacks. She is so ridiculous sometimes that I truly wonder how it is that she can say anything without laughing at the absurdity of her campaign.
Yeah, just what I want, a president weighed down with the "nuts and bolts" minutia of running the government..."Why are they out of white paper at the federal building in Boise?" Hillary was heard shouting at her staff. "And schedule me some time to sign those paychecks for those federal workers in Walla Walla. Putin will just have to wait!"
This woman has collected money from lobbyists, has kept her name on the ballot in Michigan when they violated democratic party rules.
Does she really expect me to vote for her? I want to be proud of My president and being AMerican again. Go U.S.A, Go Obama any time of the day!
"Chief Operating Officer" – A title used by big corporations..
DESPERADO!!!!
Please Hillary...it looks like you are desperate and grasping at anything to attack Obama...(or letting your aides and BET's founder do it for you while you sit back and do nothing). She has been completely ruthless and getting a free ride from our dear cnn.
Obama is a proven leader shown through his community organizing, State and US Senate leadership...he has the wisdom to see what the power-hungry in Washington often don't see or chose not to see.
As a caucasian female from Michigan, who cast my "uncommitted" vote yesterday I am hoping America will wake up and not believe Clinton's misleading, desperate attacks at Obama.
Obama 08!!
Oh no, here we go again...... Thank you CNN for doing nothing more than quoting the two candidates statements, but I don't think it's going to go over well.
Shut up looser, power hungry family that don't keep Americans first!
At least Obama cited a real weakness unlike Hillary and Edwards who basically said that their failings are that they care too much and are just too darn wonderful people for their own good... I appreciated Obama's willingness to be honest and admit his own imperfection... I've had enough of a president who thinks he is perfect, and want someone with an ounce of humility in the white house
"You cannot claim to be the master of a broken system and at the same time argue that somehow you can change it"
– Barack Obama
Hillary, but you did not read the National Intelligence Estimate before voting for war with Iraq.
Obama is a leader, Hillary is a Manager
We need a leader in the white house
That's my girl! Hillary rocked last night, and she will make an amazing president. She is smart, she knows policy, and that, my friends, is INSPIRING.
What management style? What has he ever managed? He has never held an executive position in his life. But, hey, he has a hopeful message so let's vote for him anyway. He can start learning at the top.
I live here in Newton Mass and many people (women) that I talk to would love to see a woman president but not this woman.
I would vote for any other candidate other than Clintons.
Is Hillary running for President or COO? And besides, aren't America's chief operating officers the Congress??
I look at it like a corporation; its true Hillary manages well, Hillary would be a good manager for a firm, but an awful CEO. A CEO or the president should be able to communicate effectively across party lines. In the business sense, regardless if you personally like the business or not, attaining your goal is what matters. A CEO provides vision and direction, the president should be able to do the same. Hillary would be great at exactly what she said chief OPERATING officer, not the CEO. So, that is why i believe she would be a great VP.
For the first time I am looking forward not to do the same mistake I have done previously by electing candidates that don't level with me and Hillary that is what I am about to do here in Nevada. You play race card, steal campaign slogan,try to diminish other candidates by attacking previous prominent leaders. I think can not get any worse than that. If Obama doesn't get the nomination, then it won't matter to me there on........
This article can also be headlined, "Obama: No One Does It Better Than Me!"
On the flip side, we do not want a micromanager.
this is definitely a realistic weakness. A person with a thousand things on his mind certainly doesn't need last minute pressure.
lol ... Hillary doesn't have anything to argue on.
If Hillary needs an argument to win over people, she should aim at stronger points that Obama's desk arrangement.
Clearly Obama's skills in organization have outdone Hillarys'. Iowa confirms it and New Hampshire proves it. Obama came from 20 points down to win Iowa and lose NH by two points despite Hillary's initial momentum. Someone doesn't seem organised and that is certainly not Obama.
They are trying to Bankrupt Obama with anything that he is running on. Hillary sarrogates using race card to pass the message of doctor king, pathetic. I was supporting her but not anymore. I am voting for mccain for the first time.
I am not gonna reward her with her pathetic approach.
YOU ARE DOOMED HILLARY!
Well let Hillary be the COO (vice president) and Obama be the CEO (president). Problem Solved!
Barack Obama is absolutely correct in suggesting the the President has to be focused on the BIG PICTURE–listening to the general public and defining their collective vision for the country, mobilizing the public to get behind this vision, and delegating to his key advisors and Chief of Staff the responsibilities for executing the vision. The Executive Branch of Government is HUGE, and if the President were to get mired down in the details and minutia of governance, he (or she) simply would lose their effectiveness. Barack Obama has proven his capacity as a leader and executive as evidenced by his incredibly efficient, broad based, and extensive campaign organization–an organization which is built around a very powerful team of advisors and operational leaders–that was started from scratch less than two years ago. Hillary Clinton pretty much inherited her political operation from her husband. Barack's priorities are right on!!!
Hillary commanded the debate/issues, hands down !
Showed she is ready to be our Commander In Chief !
She will be a Great President !
Does anyone believe anything that this woman says. I am electing a leader not a manager. We all Know Bill clinton didn't have presidential experience when he got elected in 1992 plus other candidates like Kenneday.
I am voting for obama!
Obama didn't "seem to suggest" he is disorganized. He said disorganization was his biggest weakness, when he was asked what his greatest strength and his greatest weakness was. He said his desk is in a mess, he loses papers if he has to hold onto them for more than 2 seconds..
And Hillary is right about needing a chief operating officer. I don't want someone to convene a committee to figure out how to implement my vision. I want someone who already has a plan and is ready to rock and roll as soon as they get into office. We don't have time for Obama to try and mete out how he's going to get things accomplished.
Well I wish her hands would have found the NIE report. Certainly it was in plane sight on her uncluttered desk. We need a president who knows how to make sound decisions, NOT one who knows ins and outs of every government agency but can't make a sound decision at critical moments.
Leave it to Hillary to flat out lie about the truth behind Obama's statement. Can Hillary EVERY tell the truth without bad-mouthing and misconstruing someone else's statements?
Obama is exactly right. It isn't the President's job to keep the filing cabinets organized. It isn't the President's job to clean his desk. That's what the white house staff are for... the President is the ultimate decision maker. The President is at the TOP of the bureaucracy. Everyone below him runs it. The President does not RUN the bureaucracy. That's what your chiefs of staff and secretaries of all the cabinets do. You appoint them, give them policies and goals, and let them do it.
What Hillary is suggesting is micromanagement, which is a HORRIBLE management style.
And I also enjoy how Hillary suggests we need someone able to handle the bureaucracy, yet she doesn't have any executive experience, either.
There's being managerial and there's being overly controlling. After reading the recent Time article on Sen. Clinton's secretive scheming during her years as First Lady, I know that she will not effectively manage - she will be controlling to a fault.
ABC '08
Gal, no matter how I wanted you to win, you know, these kind of attacks have turned me off time and time again. Time for me to look around for someone who doesn't do this kind of nonsense. My vote goes to Obama!
When all three candidates were asked to disclose their strenghts and weaknesses, Barack went first and told the America people the type of weaknesses that we can relate to. However, the other two candidates namely, clinton and edwards felt they can put a twist to a simple question.. Just tell us who you really her Hillary, don't tell us what you think may sound good to the America people. So in my opinion, Barack was more truthful in that respect.
What is she talking about. She is not going to run the government or the White house, Bill is. Cant you guys get it. Bill is coaching her, telling her, runnning everything
I have been trying to compare Hillary and Obama to see who I would vote for. As undecided voter, this lady has been shamelessly attacking Obama. I will not vote for her. I will vote for Edward,Obama or republican. Go figure!
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED:
Candidates were asked to identify a strength and a weakness. Obama answers honestly and candidly that he has a tendency to lose papers and has a disorganized desk. Hillary gives the standard candidate "my weakness is I sometimes care too much/try too hard" BS answer, then attempts to bash Obama on his answer, indicating that it reflects an inability to "run the government".
Now, she's further trying to capitalize. Just another example of how OBNOXIOUS she is.
Atleast Obama gave an honest truthful answer to the question ... Hillary and Edwards just spit out some rhetoric.
Every day John Edwards looks better and better. This bickering and finger pointing between Clinton and Obama is just going to end up with the Dems blowing it again.
yeah im sure all our troops want to take orders from this lady. stick to pushing papers HRC
What a mess this lady keep getting in. I would like to know who is her campaign manager who is advising her the opposite of what Americans people are looking for this time around. Stop going around pushing people into the mud. Time for us to be atleast opmistic if not hopeful. Enough of Karl Rove tactics!
he didn't say he was unorganized. he didn't say he was forgetful. he didn't say he was sloppy. what he said was that one of his jobs as president was to steer the bureaucracy in the direction he feels best. the clinton machine is stuck on spin cycle. talk about issues hillary, if you can...
I don't think we need a micromanager, but we DO need a manager.
Look at the influence Cheney, Rice and others have over the current President. As I recall President Bush publicly said the same thing Obama said last night that the President sets the vision and others make it happen.
Also, look at what relying too heavily on others to make policy happen did to Regan. Anyone remember Oliver North?
Times are too tough to not trust the President to both set the agenda and make it happen. We don't need another President Bush.
"“I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can, "
If you mean inspire the American people to vote Republican, you got it right.
Can someone tell this woman to shut the hell up on attacks and focus on what we want as Americans. I thought I would support her after yesterday agreement on not attacking each other, but from now on she just lost my vote. Give me Edward who seems mature or Obama anytime!
"After you set the goals and you give the speeches, you go back to the White House and you start holding people accountable and you want to know what they’ve done today to help the American people," added Clinton. "You’ve got to take on this government, you’ve got to run this government, you can’t leave it to others.
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This woman is really ridiculous.
Set goals, give speeches, go back to White House and "YOU HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE and YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TODAY ..."
"You take on this government, you've got to run this government, YOU CAN'T LEAVE IT TO OTHERS."
Now isn't this contradicting your own statements. She is parroting what Edwards and Obama have already said over and over and twisting these statements into something that doesn't make a dang bit of sense. This toast is too stale crumble.
He's not running for top secretary ms. clinton.......
Bill Clinton has found a way to advert the constitution and have his "lady" run so he can govern again. Yuck! I'm so over the Clintons...not anti-Clinton just over them and their old school ways!
I don't trust her!
OMG!!!!!!!! I watched the debate. He didn't say that at all. Leave it to the liar Hillary to turn his words into something that is so far away from what he said. If she gets the nod I will definately vote Republican.....and I never thought I would EVER say that.
Here we go again with the attacks. Clinton, can't now, nor will ever be able to see the woods through the trees. That's why we need Obama's leadership....unless you want complete and utter partisan gridlock from now on.
When she was asked the weakness and strength question she again choose to dodge and not answer the question at all.
Atleast Obama and Edwards were honest enough to point out there weakness and strength.
Hillary, you did mention that we are a family last night and now you have started to mudsling again.
Quote John
"Hillary, but you did not read the National Intelligence Estimate before voting for war with Iraq.
Obama is a leader, Hillary is a Manager"
She said she was briefed on NIE reports but she never said who briefed her, I am sure non of her staff have security clearance to get the Intelligence report. Then who did the briefing, Bush? Chenney? Rummy? Is that what you call "Hands on" or quoting Hillary from the CNN post "I think it’s important that we have a president who understands that you have to run the government,"
We need leader PERIOD.
I am sure she will not ready NIE reports regarding IRAN and will jump to her own conclusion - sounds so like BUSH.
I will vote anyone but CLINTON.
Who gave this lady a commanding power to walk over other candidates. I think the media is the current sarrogate for her
Come on Hillary. We do not need a paper push or a micro manager. We need a leader and a President with vision and hope. That person is Barack Obama.. You are really nit picking now because you can feel it all slipping away from you.
We have had it with the Bush/Clinton dynasty and want a change for our country. You are not change, just more of the same inside fighting, bickering and getting nothing accomplished.
Oh, your comment about holding people accountable: I believe you just want to know how to blame and yell at if you are not happy. We just don't need your leadership style. Obama 08 All the way
I think we've had enough of a "CEO"-style president for the past 7 years...we need a REAL change at the White House and NOT an experienced, tactical, manipulative, ruthless Washington insider (any guesses??) masquerading as the "change-agent". Next time the Clintons cry about politics of personal destruction and voter suppression, its time for everyone to point out the hypocrisy!!
There are many people who are disorganized, yet succeed in their profession. Pointing out the fact that he is disorganized is not something that can sway my vote one way or the other. Hillary Clinton needs to find other topics and issues where she can confront Obama on – disorganization just doesn't cut it.
Hillary you are starting to sound pathetic. I thought you found your voice?
Hillary is right, she carefully studies every aspect of an issue so that she can take the most politically expedient route. A craven, craven politician. I wish she'd spend more time talking concretely about what she'll do, instead of attacking the other candidates like Rove, Jr.
I believe that the more debate we will have, the media and the ennemies of Hillary will understand that OBAMA doesn't have what it takes to be President. If someone is telling that you are not organized, that means that people will do the job for you...you are a follower...that's what we are starting to see the more Obama speaks without a script...How can someone be a leading a country like the USA if you don't have any good organization skills? Being a leader means being strategic and operational.. Wake up folks... Be objective..
Does any of you honestly believe if OBAMA didn't have people, ennemies of Bill's Clinton behing him, his campaing will be where it is now? Come on, you know our people...How long again was he in national politic? Has he been re-elected already as a senator...? let's think and think and you will find the right answer to these questions..? I will vote for HILLARY, period...
A clean desk is the sign of an empty mind. And trivial attacks are the sign of a mind out of its wits, aware of dropping in the polls.
A leader is someone who inspires others, as well as can get the job set in motion and get it done. You can't do it all on your own. You shouldn't do it all on your own. The worst managers I've had are micromanagers. They spin the company in circles and nothing ever gets done. This is a government of the People, for the People, not a government of One "I can solve all your problems for you..." ie, "you keep out of this. We, the Big Boys (and Girls) know what we're doing."
Obama has already inspired millions around the world, and have already become a part of a democracy of the People, and others just itching to help out, instead of waiting for the latest "decision" to come to them through their TV screen.
Obama's our guy. Vision and Action combined!
Yes WE can, not "Yes, I can, oh... with your help..."
Barack is absolutely right. America does not need a chief operating officer. Instead, we need a CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER–someone who is going to lead this country in the right direction. The problem in Washington has been that the President has had too much authority to make his own decisions even when the decisions were imprudent, ill-advised and against the best interest and will of the American people. Hillary, once again, is attempting to play semantics and scrutinize Barack on what I think is a very honest response on his part.
The irony is that in last night's debate, he was skillful enough to respond to her appraisal of his suggestion that he's not a micromanager by pointing out that Bush was always on time and always had documents in his hand yet still made poor decisions and hired a coterie of followers who were of the same ideological ilk as he is. Perhaps none of that matters to Clinton since she has also made poor decisions like supporting the war in Iraq and voting twice for the bankruptcy law. Barack is a scholar at heart. As a history professor, I can relate to his honesty about having a messy desk and only wanting to see material right before I need to grapple with it. But in the end, it does not prevent me from making sound decisions and I do not think it will prevent Barack from doing the same. After all, it has not prevented him from being successful and making the RIGHT decisions up until this current juncture.
It seems like Hillary clinton thrives on criticizing Obama. Without that edge she would run out of things to talk about in her campaign. I have tried really hard to like Mrs Clinton, but she makes it so hard for some people to appreciate the tactics she employs to win, be it politics of fear, or negative campaigning, or sympathy. Why does character fall so far behind for voters?
Good vision good judement most matters...we need a leader! not a secretary
who keep all paper in place but lead by fears or tears then authorize war led to disasters.
Here you go again Hilary .... i think I agree that she will make a wonderful manager BUT I sure don't know if she will be a great president .... she can NOT even admit a genuine weakness ..... gimme a break ...
My vote is for Barack .... he is no saint but sure as heck can admit a weakness and is candid and real.
Go OBAMA!!!!! PLEASE harp on the issues ... it is the economy!!!!!!!
And attacks continues while we Bankrupt all what Obama is running on. It will be hard for Clintons to be accepted even if they win. People will turn their backs just like they have to GW Bush and assume they don't have a president.
oooh, and did I say this kind of attacks will be taken to the white house and nothing will ever be accomplished? We all have seen this movie before. Anybody but Hillary.
Bloomberg will be a good third party candidates and CNN will go back to fair reporting!
I'm an Obama supporter through and through but I'll admit I didn't love the comments about his disorganization. But like he said he knows his weaknesses and balances them by having the right people at his side to organize that stuff for him. And it's a testament to his straight forward, honest policy that he would point out a real weakness like that.
I've read some of these comments and I'm disturbed. After the sloppy evidence of Iraq and WMD's leading us to war and the disaster of mismanaging Katrina we don't want to welcome organization and ACTION in our new President.
If this is the case I say keep Bush in for 8 more years then.
I could care less if soneone's desk is a mess. I run a very successful department of 15 people in a very sucessful business and sometimes you can't even see my desk its so messy in my office. People don't want pencil pushers. They want REAL LEADERSHIP. I completely agree with everyone who said that at least Obama (AGAIN) was the only truthful candidate. I laughed out loud when Edwards said his biggest weakness was that he is too passionate. Come on, thats a rookie mistake made by first time job applicants and seasoned professionals know it as soon as they hear it. Hilary- get over yourself and go away. OBAMA- YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never mind this woman. She need some mental check up!
Senator Obama's stated that he has the vision, the ideas, the motivation and then he has people in position to run with the ball while he oversees. He doesn't need to know where every piece of paper is – that is for his assistant to track.
He looks at the big picture, such as Iraq, and knows that the war should not be waged. And then he has the correct people in place to make sure that positive results are achieved without the slaughter voted for by Clinton.
Since Senator Obama can bring people together and inspire them, he will make a fantastic president. People will WANT to work with him.
He is the only person running that is presidential material.
The president is more CEO (Executive) than COO (Chief Operating Officer).
The vice presidential position would be more of a COO.
So, if Hillary wants to be vice president, that's just fine.
Obama for CEO! (president)
Say Whut?
Obama just confirmed one important difference between he and Hillary.
Hillary as she has stated, will hit the ground running and has the experience
to deal with the position. Obama just admitted to America and the World that he is not a manager, or an organizer he is an inspirator!
Thank you for being truthful Obama. Thank you for giving the world a huge insight on your enormous weaknesses as a potential leader. Now take your truth and go back to the Senate where you don't have to show up to vote on important issues, where your assistant can keep track of your papers, and where your staff can handle the tasks that you don't know anything about and give you the credit !
Anyone who would make these statements publicly should have never entered the race and now having enlightened the world on his ineffiencies, and lack of capability, he should take the high road and drop out, NOW.
WAT A NERVE! He's going to run a Nation on His ONE Talent, Being able to Inspire the American People! And his aids can handle the important stuff, like decisions on blocking terrorist attacks, (oh where's that report?) the economy, military action, veteran and health care, border control !!!!
Will somebody please SMACK this Boy for me. He's just too incapable and lacking to ever be inspiring! Does he think he's inspiring Americans with his lack of capability?
I'd love to see what might happen to my business if I let my staff make all the important decisions for me !!!! RECEIVERSHIP comes to mind !
It just keeps gettin better! I can hardly wait for tomorrow after this mind blower!
Oh well, he's one up on Bush. At least he was man enough to admit he doesn't have the capability or experience for the position. I'll give him that, reluctantly.
Come on Hillary, we're electing a President not a file clerk. I sincerely doubt that Bill Gates, Queen Elizabeth, or whomever, keeps an "in and out" basket on their desk. Don't like his views on something or a policy statement? Then you certainly are entitled to speak up, but this one ranks up with the "Dancing With the Stars" reference. A big "who cares" and a "yawn".
"World Class Genius", what's going on here? You can do better than this comment.
Micro-managing does not make one an effective CEO. I see Hillary ignoring the forest for the tree. I do not see how attacking Obama makes her look better, but it does smell of desperation.
Another question for you folks, is your child is sick, will you bring it to the experienced doctor or the one in residence? I asked myself that question because i believe this country is "sick" and we need people who have experience to turn it around. And that is why, i am voting for HILLARY not Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.
HILLARY can get the job done but some folks may not like her because she is the wife of Bill Clinton. However even though you may not like Bill Clinton, but you all have to agree that the US economy has never been in a better shape than when he was president.. Anyone against that comment...? Do some research..
My Question is for Faye, These women you talk too that don't want to see Hillary as president, do they offer any sensible reason as to why? All you say or they say is not this woman! but no one can really say why. Maybe you are just taking the process of choosing a president as simple as opting for Macdonald's as opposed to burger king. Post your reasons as to why she cannot be president instead of posting rubbish that is irrelevant.
In other words, Obama doesn't want to work. He just wants to talk. In his world the country could be going to hell in a handbasket because no one's in charge and as long as he can "inspire" to feel good about it we should be content.
And yes to those of you who talk of CEO's being visionaries and inspirers. But generally CEO's have worked their way up the management chain and gained a great deal of experience before they're put in the big chair. Obama just left his entry-level government job two years ago. He's not ready for the biggest chair of them all.
Edwards, too, gave one of those BS answers to his greateset weakness: sometimes I get too passionate about a wrong that I see... (paraphrasing)
I thought there was a truce set by both candidates, and today she jumps at the first chance to attack Barack Obama. These are not the politics, that I want for the next four years with Senator Clinton. She should stop talking about Obama and concentrate on her own message. For these constant attacks, I think she will lose the nomination. OBAMA 08!
Why is it so difficult to understand the difference between a Chief Operating Officer and a Chief Executive Officer? Clinton said she was "taken aback"? Maybe that is because she does not understand the true role of the President. The President does not have to be hands on with every decision or policy that is being considered or put forth by his Administration. The President decides the course of the Administration and hires a Cabinet of qualified people to get it done. He or she asks the questions necessary to ensure that those decisions are in keeping with the President's vision for the country but the President does not write the amicus brief to the Supreme Court or the policy statement for a peace treaty. What would be the purpose of a Cabinet otherwise?
Hilary is dreaming again. Leave the government as it is and just manage it? This is what is wrong now. You need someone who inspires them to do the work needed to get better and faster. If someone is not doing their job, then they are held to answer why not. If they can't figure it out, then NEXT. You didn't see this with Bush in eight years. Do we need this again, NO. We need to move beyond what's holding us back and putting us down...
Borack Obama is the only candidate who I feel is "Change". He makes you think of our future and outlook of the World. Old & New, it's time for a Change with Borack Obama.
Hilary Clinton is not...... You want someone who looks you in your eyes and tells you the truth.
It seems to me that this is part of a strategy to redirect the awareness of people bringing to the forefront his lack of experience. Sort of like catching a fly ball, you've got to give in a little to muffle the impact.
Obama is a good leader and he is articulate. This is no way diminishes Clinton or Edward's ability to be a leader.
The truth of the matter is that the President of the United States spends more time OPERATING than he does giving inspirational speeches. An intimate knowledge of the administrative functions of the White House and the President's role in that is important.
I get the feeling that Obama thinks that celebrity and general statements about what he hopes to have accomplished will float in the White House. The Presidency is an executive position. An operating manager needs to understand how to manage and that defining element is what makes Hillary Clinton more qualified.
After her, I would say that Edwards is most qualified because of his experience managing a law firm and his experience in the Senate.
I sincerely feel Obama is selling me hopes and well presented speeches. Clinton can deliver results.
ya it annoyed me how her and John totally BSed the question and Barack actually answered it
Hilary is so full of herself, she's toast.
Nevert elect tis witch.
To Obama's, whatever you say, I want a President who had turned the deficit to a surplus, and thats the Clintons. VIVA HILLARY!
George Bush essentially said he'd be the "CEO president," leave the details to others and look at the mess. Yes, the presidency is a bureaucracy that you have to understand and manage or others will do it and not for the benefit of the American people. I can't stand Dick Cheney but he is, without a doubt, the most influential VP in history, more influential than some presidents because he understands how the government works, where the levers of power are and how to force his policies through, all with a president who's not interested in the details. If Obama thinks he can sit in the Oval Office penning "inspirational" speeches, he's sadly mistaken.
Hillary you had all the papers but you did not read the National Intelligence Estimate ! you signed and say, ah! what a day for all the paper work! in the disaster of wars you authorized , you said, if I know then what I know now, I wouldn't sign....but we know you now we can't offer another disaster like this and say...if we knew her then why we elect her?
i really want to hear about the issues.
barack hillary edwards
all 3 would be fine as our new leader ..
bring our boys home
peace
Democrats want to run the government like a big corporation?? Don't I wish... Ha Ha!!
Sorry, but all these things are starting to remind me of the current administration
If the management of her campaign is any indication of her management skills I'll take Obama any day.
Clinton consistently has said that Obama inst experienced enough to deal with the Washington politics.
Obama has consistently said he can unite the politicians .
So Obama suggesting he is disorganized was probably not the best thing to say.
This would entail he inst 'commanding' in his own right and needs other to help him 'fumble' around.
Its not a big deal, but I really wonder who is advising Obama on his tactics.
Clinton indicated she gets 'frustrated' and Obama suggested that he -unike bushie – would bring all views together even if they were outside of his ideals.
But he didnt make it convincing enough to stick to Clinton as a way to suggest she doesnt bend off her beliefs.
Obama did GREAT when it came to Chritianity, but didnt look good on the Nuclear issue or the Energy Bill.
Like others have said
Clinton won on substance and the issues
Obama won on 'style' and presentation.
I am convinced though that 99% of the posters here are 20 years old or younger.
Our best leaders both in government and in business were not paper pushers. Our best leaders did understand to a healthy degree how things work, but don't obsess over those things. Leadership, inspiration, and the ability to achieve results through people are the things we really need.
So, if Hillary is saying she knows exactly what forms to fill out and what rubber stamps to use on what box, she'd make an excellent secretary for our next President.
I would like to know who the hell Hillary think she is. Why is she not running her campaign with respect and intergrity?
Hey!, if some guy smiles and says, 'hey I'm messy, but I can make ya' feel real good', would you choose him to be your local dogcatcher, or your daughter's 'best potential husband' material, or your first choice for your new accounting employee? I mean – he is being 'honest' after all. You wouldn't?
Well gee, then tell me why you're declaring that Obama's ability to 'make ya' feel good' and 'give you incentive to dream and hope' is the basis upon which you'd vote for him as president. Seems like the skills/capacity and experience of your future accounting staff, son-in-law and dog-catcher are more important to you than are those of your president. Gotcha!
I am just not a fan of disorganized people. Sorry.
He said he was disorganized and no "Chief Operating Officer," she didn't. Come on people, he can criticize her for anything and everything, but she can't expand upon a statement he made about himself??? The second he said that last night, I thought "you've got to be kidding me!" To admit you're unorganized and must rely on others to keep you life in order does not sound good to me.
I was a hillary strong supporter but this weekend turned me off. I know where Obama stood on this and now when I read the above I just feel she doesn't deserve my vote. May be my daughter will wait another woman president who has more Intergrity more than this!
Uh Oh, Obamaites... he didn't look so good in this debate. Hill came out looking smarter and more prepared, and after the disaster that is Bush, don't you think we need preparation and management in the whitehouse? Me thinks we do!
Hillary hasn't got a clue what a leader should be.
She doesn't even know what a manager should do as she never had any executive experience.
Nobody, I mean nobody, should micromanage the United States of America.
A successful manager should not even micromanage Wal-Mart.
Hillary really doesn't know what needs to be done in the Oval Office.
You have to wonder just what kind of 35 years of experience she really has.
It is very shameful for the Dems to support Hillary as the front runner even for a day.
Yes, I welcome a female president as much as many do, but it's not Hillary.
Hillary is the least qualified candidate since Day One.
She will only expose her poor qualifications more as the race moves on.
Can we please talk issues now?
Who cares what Hillary thinks? We gave her a chance she doesn't deserve.
What should we expect? The only thing she knows to run is a negative campaign, or one that's trying to userp others' platforms ("change"?).
The fact of the matter is, that this woman has no substance, only blind ambition.
No chance in hell I'm voting for her.
I'm so sick of only hearing about Clinton and Obama. What about the other candidates? This whole race for the ticket has been nothing but hearing about those two and I'm sick of it. No wonder things will never change with American politics – the media gives a bias to certain people and others then struggle to get noticed, even if they are qualified and deserve a fair shot at the Presidency.
Edwards all the way!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps they should stop 'targeting' each other and tell us what they will do for our country. Targeting only serves to weaken the eventual nominee and it makes the attacker look a bit desperate.
Please, please stop with the vitriolic comments. As I look through all these blogs, they are filled with hatred. Hillary Clinton is making her argument, and it is up to the American people to determine whether or not she will be the Democratic nominee. If Barack Obama is indeed the uniter, and I believe that is his intent, I do not think he wants his supporters to be so filled with divisiveness and hate. It defeats the entire premise of his message. Let the candidates make their arguments, and make up your minds based on those arguments, not loathing for any particular candidate.
We all consider Bill Clinton a good president, but he wasn't a macromanager. As a matter of fact, he was having too much fun in the oval office (if you know what I am talking about). My point is I would vote for a person who has a bad habit of losing papers than a person who has a bad habit of authorizing unjust war. I would rather vote for a person who would show up late to work but exercise good judgment over a person who shows up on time and do damage.
After going a difficult time in My history of 60years, I really want a president who I can be proud of. Hillary not in my list. Not this woman and definately not Clintons!!
Go Obama 08,12!
CNN, stop overshadowing Obama. He is a man of character and intergrity.
If not Obama, how about Bloomberg?
Funny...I am not great at keeping up with papers – my desk looks like a war zone and yet I am very successful at my job MANAGING numerous clients. I think it is sad that she thinks this an issue she can use to belittle him.
To Jovita –
"You want a president who had turned the deficit into a surplus and that's the Clintons. Viva Hillary!" – I'm sorry who was running country then? Oh wait it was Bill – not Hillary. These are two separate people with 2 separate sets of skills. She did not correct the deficit – he did.
I am so sick of hearing of her 35 years of experience – she only has 6 – in the US Senate. Being the wife of a politician is not experience!!!!!
If we want a divided nation, a divided congress and/or God forbid a Republican in the White House – then by all means, support Hillary Clinton.
In all fairness Sen Clinton is going totally rediculous with these attacks.I wont be surprised if she accused Obama of using the left hand in stead of the right hand to eat.
Huh.BTW New Zogby National Polls out today puts them at 39% and 38% Nationally. If Sen Clinton continue down this road she will simply hand the nomination to Mr Obama.
Nothing will make me change my mind towards Hillary, not now not ever. Obama all the way and even third term!
The American citizen has always been able to rise to the occassion. What it takes is motivation. What we usually need is a leader that is a motivator that can make change by getting us to act. Hillary can not do this. She is too polarizing a person and we will continue down the same path we are currently on. Obama is the best possible choice we currently have to do this. He is what a statesman should be, a leader working for the good of the public. Hillary does not have those qualifications and she continues to demonstrate this everyday during these primaries whether you wish to see this or not. She is way too concerned about herself than others. Hopefully we are not stupid enough to try and put her in the Presidency or it will be a disaster.
I have never gotten any attractive thing that would make me vote for Hillary when I have a viable candidate Like Obama beside her. When I read stuff like this, this makes me more skewed to republicans if Obama doesn't get the nod.
You don't have to have 35 years of experience to do a good job, get the job done.
Hillary can't even compare her 35 years to what Obama has done!
Pay attention people!!! He is bringing this country together.
THAT IS WHAT WE NEED!
Stop the constant attacks Hillary. She can't even focus on a good campaign because she is too busy trying to come up with her next attack.
Some leader.
Go to Obama,com and at least check things out for yourself.
It's amazing how many men feel so threatened by Hillary's command of the issues and take charge style. I thought she was great in the debate last night and seems much beter prepared for the job. The bottom line is that she is right on target when she says the president is in charge of the government. Obama is a freshmen. She is clearly the Varsity player here. He's out of his league and it shows in the debates. This country needs someone who will go to work for us in Washington. Does Obama think he can go into Washington on day 1, give a great speach and have entire political system change? Idealism is great, but practicality and hard work is what will get the job done.
This "person" could not even keep track of her family and what "they were doing" and if she really wants to get into "being organized", how did the Rose law firm papers get "misplaced" for two years?
She has NEVER run a business, a city or a state and frankly she can't even keep track of a campaign that takes $850,00 from a major bundler and doesn't do it's homework on him?
The only thing "she" has ever "run" is from the truth.
ABC.
Ah, c'mon kids. Kiss and make up.
Behind every good man is a women go Hillary! She won the debate again and was the most informed on all our issues. You Hillary haters you should be ashamed no respect for a women or our party!
Jovita, Bill Clinton did that. When will people realize that his WIFE is running, not him?
At least Obama is honest about his downfalls. That was a true test of character in that question. Employers always ask what your weaknesses are.
Not only are we judging on what people have done in the past, but also on their plans for the future, their ability to make good judgments and their ability to be honest with the American people.
Edwards admitted to making mistakes on 4 different votes that he now regrets. A key one was to authorize the President to go to war in Iraq. We don't want a President who keeps making mistakes over and over. Hillary has taken special interest money and she doesn't deny it. How are you going to fight a system that continues to fund your campaign. I would say that equals a lot of political favors. Obama is a real guy who loses papers. We don't expect our President to be perfect, but we want them to have good judgment and more importantly to be honest with us.
Since when is experience become a liability?
The difference between Change and Experience/Change is apparent to all but hoping for change with little explanation how to do it is a little fuzzy.
With all my respect for all of you I think to allow a person with no or little experience to hold the most important Job in this Universe is totally wrong. I know some of us might have some personal gain from this but let us think out of the box and have a clear understanding of issues before us.
This is a defining moment in History that each of you can make a difference in the future of all humankind and please vote wisely.
Peace -
God Bless America.
Gifted politician like Obama is not necessarily born from years of experiences and organization skills.
Hillary is getting pretty petty and sounding like two women in a cat fight at the office and there's nothing worse. This is what men some expect of us in the office place and that's one reason why we are left behind in the corporate world. Hillary is a smart woman but right now she looks like she's being baited and hooked. She could learn to be a leader from Nancy Pelosi who knows how to catch the big fish, but then again she might start a cat fight.
Has anyone ever asked Clintons how much they pay CNN to do the advertsing for her. I can not help to think that Obama has been bankrupted on anything that he is running on and he still remains a man of character and intergrity. I didn't know how Barack is intelligent till last night debate. I wish they had given him time in last bad debates that favoured hillary so that he could show who he really is. If he doesn't win, that's it for me!
Obama all the way!
Liar, cheap, ridiculous, shrill, desperate, ABC, obnoxious, yell, blame, nit picker, yuck, stale, parrot, ridiculous, racist, thief, looser, power hungry, mudslinger, blah, blah, blah..... These are the writings of the so-called uncommitted, undecided and those who have just now decided she has lost their vote. Laughable if it weren't so.... oh, what's the word I'm looking for.... pathetic.
HELLO PEOPLE!!!! THE CLINTON'S ARE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!
IT IS HILLARY CLINTON. BILL CLINTON IS NOT ON THE BALLOT.
Stop the crap, stop drama, Go Obama!
A lady from Richmond, VA posted this in another topic.
I thought I would share with you.
To CNN and other readers:
I am a public school teacher in Virginia and have not made up my mind yet on a candidate. However, I am very disappointed with Hillary Clinton's campaign for supporting a lawsuit filed to shut down the caucaus sites in the Las Vegas strip. This was an uncontroversial idea, agreed by the Nevada Democratic Committee way back in the spring of last year. While the Clinton campaign was the absolute front runner last year, they were fine with it. All of this changed when the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama. As a result, Clinton's top official supporters in the Nevada State Education Association sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The message we are sending to Americans, including the very children we teach is that if things do not go our way, we can simply change the rules. Furthermore, this is not about which candidate to support, but merely providing all Americans a chance to vote. I hope both the media and all Americans see this as purely manipulating of the voting process on the part of Hillary Clinton and her surrogates and we must disavow them.
I am proud to be a teacher in Virginia and be apart of the NEA. I am NOT proud of the activities and poor decisions my colleagues in the state of Nevada are making. I hope the NEA will also disavow the actions of our colleagues in Nevada.
Is she for real? The woman fumbled on issue after issue in that debate last night.
Hey Hillary, talk about why you should be President instead of constantly focusing on why Obama shouldn't be.
...and she wonders why over 50% of the electorate refuse to vote for her, me included.
Alleluia!
Does Hillary know that she is underdog?
So why does she act like underdog?
She said she had (her husband) 80 like points about Obama's attacks... nothing
Now she went home and some one suggests her to review the debate and to find something they can attack our President (Obama)
Shame on them.
That's irrelevant.
That proves She knowed she did not success at the debate yesterday...
Frankly, the debate was normal, some time boring. Kind of three people seeking C.O.O. Job.
Obama gave the best answer (for me) about weakness.
Everybody has a weakness
Don't tell me your weakness is like Hill said or John said in certain sense
Please now focuse about how can we beat the Huck
Thanks.
Ok so what if he gets a sensitive report from Homeland security and a minute later his daughter gives him a few paintings she has done and in the course he loses the homeland security report, how would that benefit the American people especially if this report was very sensitive.
Hillary Clinton supporters have NO arguement.
Experience: Obama has more experience as an ELECTED OFFICIAL, Hillary doent compare.
Leadership: Obama has clearly shown he's willing to lead and not accuse others.
Unite: Hmmm no brainer. Hillary attacks, Obama responds with dignity and class calling for the attacks to stop on both sides.
Issues: Obama says what he means, Hillary changes her mind depending on the polls.
Iraq War: Obama against it, Hillary voted for it.
Self promoter: Obama needed Oprah one day to magnify his positions, Hillary needs Bill and all his lobbyist to continue to campaign for her. Sad but true.
If she's so organized and believes in holding people accountable, how come she can't keep Bob Johnson and Charlie Rangel in line? Sounds to me like she's not such a great manager after all.
Vote for Hillary–she has a clean desk!
Gimme the guy with a vision any day.
I was borderline between Hillary and Obama and now after the debate and this horrible cheapshot, I'm moving toward Obama. They asked for a strength and weakness. Hillary avoided the question as if she's perfect. I appreciate Obama's honesty.
Organization is part of managing a bureaucracy. If you're not organized – it will manage you! That's part of being a good administrator.
wow, now I see why my daughter keep saying she doen't think this lady can be a good president. Just what I don't need either!
As an undecided voter, Obama's answer last night proved to me that he's honest and really says what the American people NEED to hear, Not just what the WANT to hear! This man proved himself honest and trustworthy with this answer... he made my mind up for me.... Im voting for the honest one!
Managers and Leaders are not the same. What Hillary is pointing out is that she is a manager and Obama is a LEADER.
LEADERS are elected, managers are hired.
Manager vs. Leader:
A manager takes care of where you are; a leader takes you to a new place.
A manager deals with complexity; a leader deals with uncertainty.
A manager is concerned with finding the facts; a leader makes decisions.
A manager is concerned with doing things right; a leader is concerned with doing the right things.
A manager’s critical concern is efficiency; a leader focuses on effectiveness.
A manager creates policies; a leader establishes principles.
A manager sees and hears what is going on; a leader hears when there is no sound and sees when there is no light.
A manager finds answers and solutions; a leader formulates the questions and identifies the problems.
Which do you want as a president?
Look..THEY are running for President of the USA!! They will have to point out the strengths and the others weaknesses. You Obama Cult members need to shut up. If you cant handle this, they you need to not follow politics. What a bunch of CRY BABIES!!
Jovita,
I hate to tell you this, but the Clinton's didn't turn the deficit to a surplus, it was a PROJECTED surplus. Do you understand how the national deficit work? Let's just be honest, you support Hillary, and that's ok but don't put incorrect information out there we get enough of that from the politicans. I have no doubt in my mind that the deficit is not you top concern in this economy.
I think Hillary showed us exactly what we can expect from her. She's a bureaucrat. She is very knowledgeable about the issues, and very capable, and she inspires no one.
I'm voting for someone to lead our country in a new direction, not some policy wonk
who knows her way around Washington.
As an immigrant that just gotten her green card after being in America with a H1B visa, I think it wouldn't persuade immigrants that have been here to vote for Hillary who has flip flopped on that issue. At first I was supporting her but I think Obama could have helped me on time by making things done in the congress without too much Hot air on Luo Dobbs!
In order to understand the kind of details a President would need to manage and just how much operation skills are part of being the "CEO" of the White House and at the top of the Executive Branch of Government, I believe you need to have a deep and intimate level of how our government functions.
Perhaps this is something that should come in the debate: "Hillary, please explain the administrative processes of the White House and Government and the specific challenges and working knowledge you have gained in the last eight years that will help you be a better leader and manage a bureaucracy."
Hands on... really Mrs. Clinton?
How come you DID NOT READ the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE before you voted for the war?
Since when is experience become a liability?
The difference between Change and Experience/Change is apparent to all but hoping for change with little explanation how to do it is a little fuzzy.
With all my respect for all of you I think to allow a person with no or little experience to hold the most important Job in this Universe is totally wrong. I know some of us might have some personal gain from this but let us think out of the box and have a clear understanding of issues before us.
This is a defining moment in History that each of you can make a difference in the future of all humankind and please vote wisely.
I am the CEO of a very fine small business, and each year my company has grown in revenue each year I have been in business. I admit that I am not the most organized person on Earth. That is the reason why I have a.....let me see......A SECRETARY!
Hillary really do need to grow up and quit trying to make cheap shots on Obama! I was going to vote her, but she have been looking like a fool in this past month. If she wins the Democratic ticket, I will definitely vote Republican for the first time ever!!!!
Go Obama or Edwards '08!
Angie, Charlotte NC January 16, 2008 2:29 pm ET
Well let Hillary be the COO (vice president) and Obama be the CEO (president). Problem Solved!
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LOL
Need I say more?
To Ms. Jovita Muller, did you just say that Hillary gets credit for the surplus? (which really just means that the Clinton Administration was taxing us too much) So then Laura Bush gets dinged for the Iraq War? I don't understand how Hillary supporters so easily credit Hillary for all the good things of the BILL Clinton administration and then somehow have collective amnesia for the bad things. If Hillary gets credit for the surplus then Blackhawk Down was her fault. If Hillary gets credit for the economy then it's her fault for not capturing Osama Bin laden when we had the chance. If Hillary gets credit for anything good in BILL's administration then she gets equal blame for the bad...how about that? Sounds fair to me. But let's look at the things in her vast "35 years of experience" (barf) where she actually held a position of authority. First, we start with the failed health care plan from 1993. Then we move on to her hawkish move on Iraq and just six months ago another hawkish move to the center on Kyl-Lieberman. I'm still waiting for a Hillary supporter to show me one substantive bill that she has AUTHORED and had passed into law as a senator.
How can Senator Clinton possibly run a country if she cannot operate a campaign with Bill running interference for her? What a sad state of affairs. Shucks, I thought she might be a good candiate.
The Chief Operating Officer position in ANY Presidential Administration is handled jointly by the VP & CHIEF OF STAFF. Hillary Clinton is relying on the ignorance of the American people not to know the difference. If she wants to micromanage her cabinet and scream at people (like she did at the Rose Law Firm) she will look 73 by 2012 and nothing will get done. HRC's administration would be a soap opera of personality clashes because she won't let her people work. Obama has no military experience, but he is obviously being coached well by the former Generals and Colonels on his campaign staff. Any Commanding Officer in the military will tell you, "leaders lead and set a vision for his people to follow". Having confidence and faith in subordinates increases productivity. Obama by no means implies he will be a continual Tony Robbins. BTW, can Hillary motivate anybody besides sexist women?
it was an honest answer, something you NEVER get from elected official. obama is honest and will attract the very best folks to work with him, his candid nature and honesty is a sign of a true leader, at least when he speaks we wont have to second-guess him like we would with hrc!
umm..."the clintons" aren't running for president are they?? Hillary didn't turn the deficit around, she wasn't in the cabinet, she wasn't in on any decision at all! Good God, the only "experience" she has is as a senator, and she has done that for how long??? My husband who is in management talks to me about work realated issues, I don't count that as "experience" on a resume b/c we talk at night, and he sometimes asks my opinion!
I liked Bill when he was in there, even with all the embarrassing "scandals". He was good for America. I'm not gettin' that feeling with her, and Bill seems to have lost his self respect. He seems to be whining and complaining alot about everyone picking on her!! I was edging for her in the beginning, until recently. She is not running for a sorority, and her behavior has made me change my mind about HER being first woman president!
Obama 08!
Hillary, no one is perfect. Your husband is a known habitual latecomer to functions. That is a weakness. Yet he was Pres for 2 terms. Oh sure, you also DO have a weakness, but you failed to tell us at Nevada, preferring to 'slick' your way around the question. The Rep party is just PRAYING that you be the nominee, and they will galvanize their bases and ride on top of you back to the WH. It will be a BIG mistake for Democrats to choose you over Obama.You refused to accept yesterday that anyone BUT you is qualified to be Pres. It is your turn, right? Talk about pompousness!!! I fear you will be too distant from us if you become Pres. I will not vote for you. Period.
Don,
get a clue...i am an undecided voter at this point but obama gave an honest answer to a stupid debate question, while hillary gave a bs politician answer. And its not that hillary cant expanded on anything obama says, she should and has that right when its something that matters. But Her camp continues to take meaningless statements and use them out of context...its pathetic
Get a clue people........
The Chief Operating Officer position in ANY Presidential Administration is handled jointly by the VP & CHIEF OF STAFF. Hillary Clinton is relying on the ignorance of the American people not to know the difference. If she wants to micromanage her cabinet and scream at people (like she did at the Rose Law Firm) she will look 73 by 2012 and nothing will get done. HRC's administration would be a soap opera of personality clashes because she won't let her people work. Obama has no military experience, but he is obviously being coached well by the former Generals and Colonels on his campaign staff. Any Commanding Officer in the military will tell you, "leaders lead and set a vision for his people to follow". Having confidence and faith in subordinates increases productivity. Obama by no means implies he will be a continual Tony Robbins. BTW, can Hillary motivate anybody besides sexist women and bitter democrats?
Lest try this: You have 2 candidates for a position in your firm;
Candidate 1. says he disorganized and wants paper work 2 minutes before they need it.
Candidate 2. Does not mention anything about being disorganized.
Who would you Hire?
This is a no brainer, every job has busy times and hiring someone who cannot multi task, someone who concedes to being disorganized is a major catastrophe because you know once they are under pressure they are bound to loose bits and pieces. Lets face it, none of you guys who think its ok to be disorganized would hire someone to work for you, Why is this person suitable to work for America?
It takes someone who can manage to run this country. Obama is like the person who introduces the talk show host before they come out. They are there to get the crowd pumped up. He lakes no leadership skills and stinks when it comes to debating. If he cant keep track of a piece of paper, how is he going to keep track of spending money for this country???? I bet Obama was one of those people who did not work but took the credit for it in High School.
Sounds like Hillary is stumping for Mitt Romney. He's the most hands-on CEO type of the candidates.
Hands on… really Mrs. Clinton?
How come you DID NOT READ the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE before you voted for the war?
Yes I also must ask the question...is Hillary for real? People were all over Obama and Edwards when they were perceived as ganging up on Hillary during the Manchester Debate.....Now Hillary has her claws and fangs out for the two of them.....she needs to stop hissing.....and put the claws back in where they belong....
I am reading many say "Obama is disorganized, how can he be asked to run anything"? I agree, disorganization is a problem, if you're running a small business.
The federal government is no small business. Even the most organized manager simply cannot handle the millions of documents, requests, policies, meetings, and negotiations that are happening around them. That's why they enlist an A-list staff and manage people, not paper.
What Obama has demonstrated, as many point out, is that he is good at managing people. Given the complexity of our government, we can't afford to have someone who tries to micromanage because it's physically and mentally impossible for the president to succeed that way.
Obama's not suggesting he'll be giving speeches to inspire the public all the time. But he is suggesting that he can inspire the best talent and most able staff to work under him and to run a tight ship. It's evidenced, if nothing else, in his campaign – he has more than double the number of offices and staff/volunteers in his campaign than any other campaign, yet his is not the campaign constantly having staff shakeups.
I don't need my President to be perfect, especially at office management. Hillary Clinton's attack is downright silly. I still support Obama.
Jovita Miller, You've got it twisted, Hillary is running not Bill.
I'm trying to be neutral on this but what is wrong with you people. Obama is the new guy is the office that got the big promotion. And the people who hate Hillary, please tell me why. When the Clintons were in office my 401k was doing well and I had a well paying job. Now I'm working for less than a quarter of what I was making. Remember George Bush came in with training wheels. Need I tell you what happened?
I think what she is trying to say is "I AM THE DECIDER". Didn't we hear this from somebody else that got us into a real mess?
obama..thats all i can say
Obama has kept to his word to being a positive campaign runner. The Media and the CLintons are to blame for this sadness!
Politics all! There is no shiny clean change agent here. Hillary needs to stick to the issues, and supporters and sarrogates ask good questions. We don't need a frenzy of attacks and negativity. They don't help your candidate, and they do encourage the opposition by making you and your candidate appear desparate and mean.
Why is Senator Obama an ISSUE for Hillary Clinton? Is there ANYONE, or even perhaps Bill, could tell her that issues entail--immigration, education, foreign policies, energy, economy, etc. The truce that SHE agreed to last evening was to concentrate on ISSUES. Well, here we go again. America-–is she really the leader we want? Search for other attributes as well--HONESTY, JUDGEMENT, TRANSPARENCY, GUIDANCE, ENCOURAGEMENT, etc.
Perhaps Hillary is a multi-tasker.
Apparently, Senator Obama is an extreme tasker--(as explained during the debate. He is capable of working on extremes at all times (and careful in the process NOT to miniscue ANY) ---which is precisely what is needed January 2009.
If we continue to elect the same type of people we will CONTINUE TO GET THE SAME TYPE OF RESULTS!! Hillary would've probably won in 04 when it was HER TIME to run. This country from four years ago is completely torn and I don't think someone like a Hillary is what we honestly need. I feel it not just in my heart or mind but it beats deep inside my soul. Now you may disagree with me on my assesment but agree with me that Hillary has HALF the COUNTRY already against her before one ballot is even cast. Now we live in America so we can AGREE to DISAGREE. But Barack Obama is what OUR COUNTRY NEEDS!! Now you my call me fool or even say mean things about me or even Barack but the truth still remains inorder to get things done in Washington WE NEED A LATER THAT HAS THE PROVEN ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.......think about that and then call me names.
Love Always,
An American for HOPE
Obama didn't say leading was by writing motivational speeches.
Leading is creating a vision that will inspire people to achieve that vision. That IS a responsibility of the President. A President should not get mired down into all of the details. The details are the reason why there is an Presidential Administration. The President should, however, take responsibility for their administration (the buck stops here).
Based on Obama taking responsibility for the actions and words said by his followers, I believe he would do the same if he were to become President.
Remember people, it is our country. Obama is trying to inspire us to take it back! (ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country)
My vote for Clintons is gone/
Debate….and broad party of ideas is what Democrats are all about.
A nice clean campaign–with no retorts…sounds like la la land to me.
What the heck is she doing?
This is the Democratic Hillary…we hack it out…and we rarely become unified…just accommodating.
Go Obama, unite this country!
Hillary might wish to be hands on with the government, but she doesn't seem to realise that inspiration will energise people to work for the President.
Change happens from the bottom up. Not the other way around.
Is Obama for real? A chief operating officer shuffles papers?
Inexperience indeed.
- Matt
Next we know Hillary will blame Obama for attack her for being a bureaucrat – even though she’s that one saying she is a bureaucrat. What a joke. We need real honest leadership – go Obama.
Nice try Hillary. Former editor of the Harvard Law Review. I'm sure, very disorganized.
I hate to say this, but Hillary is sounding more and more like Walter Mondale, when he askd Reagan, Where is the Beef?
Guess what, he almost lost his state in that election. It was a Reagan landslide. Keep it on, Hillary.
Come on Hillary, come on, what are you doing?? it's a law of business in term of marketing not to focus on competitors when you are a front runner. You are making Obama look so good, you are the one barking behind him on every single opportunity and sometime for things that don't even matter. Please tell us why you would make a better president than Obama, so far he is winning on the most classy contender contest. Think of something more original, like own little personal crying game that you pulled off. how about telling the world that bill was a terrible president because he was not experienced coming in? Dear Hillary, you are too much of a politician darling, you need to use less of your head and more of your heart to connect with people.
Obama was asked to tell the viewers his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. The information Hillary is now trumpeting was what he said is his biggest weakness. Now, Hillary apparently does not have any weaknesses, as she failed to mention any. It's safe to assume her biggest weakness is her inhuman, robot mind incapable of systematically generating the simplest response to a simple question. Her unwillingness to admit to making any mistakes or having any flaws will cause her downfall.
Based on the above comments, I am convinced that America is far more sexist than racist.
I'M HAVING NIGHTMARES.... deja vu all over again.....
Please, America... do not commit the same mistake again: do not elect a guy because he is a good old boy who can be your best-drinking body.... do not elect a guy just because he is 'cool'....
ELECT A COMPETENT PERSON (whoever you pick) but do not choose Obama... we don't want a "Bush-light", specially because we will not know until is very late who will be the "power-behind -the-throne" (e.i.: the Vice President!!!!!) this guy is EMPTY, his rethoric is EMPTY and – by his own admission – his only talent is being an "inspirational speaker".....
ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Really somebody tell me why when Hillary has a great showing all the Anti Hillary stuff comes out. Sen Obama said he was disorganized – Hillary had much better answers on the questions the Sen Obama. She had detailed answers.
I'm a woman who is proud to say I will NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY!
I can not believe the ignorance of so many people posting on this article. Do ANY of you do ANY research on your own...or do you just follow the lead of the so-called "journalist" and do as the puppet master says????
Obama's "proven record" of accomplishments? WHERE? He has done so LITTLE during his entire time in the Illinois Senate other than to let people know he was there (PRESENT) and he has accomplished nothing during his term as a US Senator. He tries to equate himself with Kennedy and King, but has nothing, absolutely nothing in his resume to support such a claim. He says words matter but falls short on action or follow through. , he voted PRESENT nearly 130 times. Think about that. This self-proposed man of conviction, this man who does not believe in “politics as usual”, voted PRESENT on issues that were critical to the lives of Illinois citizens throughout our state. He voted PRESENT instead of an up or down YES or NO because it was the politically expedient thing for him to do.
Is this the voting pattern of a man of conviction – a man devoted to change? I don’t think so. In fact, I think Senator Obama’s voting record may well represent a man without a social backbone, a man whose conviction to social change can only be described as tepid at best. In the past 8 months, the U.S. Senate has voted on issues critical to our country’s well-being more than 260 times and of these 260 opportunities to vote for change, our Senator failed to vote on more than 160 occasions. This pretty much sums up his "accomplishments" and where he REALLY stands.
YOU CAN'T EAT A VISION PEOPLE!
As for the ignorant fools still saying CLINTON pulled the race card. NEWS FLASH Johnson DID sign the Civil Right Act! – THAT'S the point – it may have been King's dream, but it took the President of the US to implement that dream!! King was smart enough to know he could not implement the Act on his own, he took to Johnson – the PRESIDENT! Pretty simple to understand, it was OBAMA that played the race card – not Clinton.
the obama supporters on this site are absurd....you dare complain that Hillary wants to be a President that wants to be hands on and hold people accountable but then somehow defend obama who echoes all of Hillary's points. and when asked to state a weakness he said that he is unorganized and loses papers.....WOW. that's pathetic. i somehow don't think that's the type of weakness brian williams was looking for. but i do think if obama works really hard in the next five minutes he might be able to fix his tremendous weakness of losing papers.
A CEO is not a COO. They are different for a reason. If the CEO did a COO's job any company would be lost and confused as to what to do next and HOW. She should know this from those 35 years of experience!!!
MRS PRESIDENT !!! BOY THAT SOUNDS REAL NICE!!!
OBAMA IS NOT A GODD AND NO HE CANT WALK ON WATER SO PEOPLE GET OVER IT, CLINTON KNOW HER STUFF AND SHE DONT NEED SOMEONE TO HOLD HER NOTES UNTIL MINS BEFORE ITS SHOW TIME
CLINTON 2008
OMG. Hillary is getting more pathetic by the day. Some times I wonder, who the hell is advising this women?
I never used to mind Hillary but more and more I see how she conducts herself in the compain trail, I don't think I would ever consider voting for her. It looks like she would sell her soul to be president and I don't think this is a right time to elect her.
Obama speaks the truth. No substance but good speeches and inspiration. Being President is a job not a pie in the sky idea with not much to it. Really I am not a fan of clinton but at least she has a point and actually says something on issues. I am so sick of obama I could throw up...and of all those blind obama fans who don't know policy but know that he sounds good and inspires them. He does not answer debate question well at all because he sees the big picture all right....the title Mr. President...but does not actually see the little things like knowing he is not providing answers with substance on policy, that all he is is a suit that sounds good, that he does not have enough experience, that he preaches uniting the country but is just as good at dividing it. Bush looked at the big picture too....Hussein out of power.....forgot the little thing of actually planning the war in a way we could win or thinking about the next step. whoops!
If Obama's supporters reflect his campaign and candidacy, he is finished.
Val wrote:
I am just not a fan of disorganized people. Sorry.
You are right, famously disoragnized people like Einstien, Churchill, FDR, Reagan and JFK were all worthless.
Sorry you hate Obama so much that you cant even come up with a decent metaphor. But thanks for playing
Obama 08'
HILLARY'S CEASELESS ATTACK AT OBAMA ONLY SHOWS HER DESPERATION. LET HER TALK SERIOUS ISSUES AND LET OBAMA BE. BEIGN PRESIDENT IS NOT RUNNING A CORPORATION. HILLARY HAS SHOWN SHE CANNOT LEAD AMERICA. I THINK THAT WOMAN ADMIRES OBAMA SO MUCH SHE EATS, DRINKS SLEEPS AND DREAMS OBAMA EVIDENCED BY OBAMA THIS AND OBAMA THAT. WE WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA. THE PRESIDENT THAT WILL LEAD NOT THE MANAGER CLINTON WANTS
For all of the "I'm so tired of the Clinton's".... Were you tired of the Clinton's when this Nation's economy was doing great? Were you tired of the Clinton's when they did so many great things for this Country? Deborah made a comment that "Maybe that is because she does not understand the true role of the President." Funny.. SHE WAS MARRIED TO THE PRESIDENT. I think she knows and understands 100% what the true roll of the President is. People are jumping on the Obama bus and I'm getting tired of hearing about it. When he makes a slam against her it's ok but when she comes back at him it's "Oh poor Obama." We need a president who can take charge of a situation. I believe Hillary to be that person. Also, when the Race card was pulled, it just pissed me off. How about we leave Race out of this because that card is played enough. THIS IS A POLITICAL RACE PEOPLE. They are going to be taking blows at one another. That's what happens. Do you want a President who is nice or a President who can go in to the White House, take charge and get us out of the mess that President Bush has gotten us in to?
Hillary's throwing more mud at the wall hoping something will stick. The big story on that question is that Obama gave an honest answer and showed some humility, and Hillary and Edwards both said something along the lines of, "gosh, I'm just too awesome for my own good."
The biggest thing ANY of these candidates has run is his/her own Presidential campaign. Obama's is far and away the most disciplined and organized, and it has far less internal strife than the others. He does have a bit more executive experience, too, leading various projects while serving as a community ORGANIZER.
The fact that he isn't his own secretary doesn't prevent him from being an extremely effective executive. The skill set required to organize people and ideas on a large scale and the skill set required to avoid a messy desk do not overlap.
I think I've seen enough of the imperial presidency during the Bush years. I see the Presidency more as a leadership position than a petty midlevel management position. I would rather have a President with the sense to know when to delegate. I'd totally vote Hillary if I wanted a bureaucrat for President.
barack obama need to get the hands on experience. he will be ready one day to be the president. and he will one day will be the president, and a great president he will be.
Hillary/Obama 08! Obama/? 2016
This is the best unbeatable ticket. pls dems don't mess this one up.
most CEO's are not hands on people. Those that are get stuck in the trees and can't see the forest. A good CEO sets the goals and then his/her people work towards them.
John,
get a clue she didn't answer the question, you better go back and watch the replay of the debate
I scroll through this responses and mainly see negative and mean-spirited "shut up" responses from Obama supporters which basically tells me his message of being a "uniter" and "bringing people together" is falling on deaf ears.
I am even more encouraged to vote for Hillary based on this negative people who make comments that show Obama is not able to inspire people. It is one thing to loathe a persons politics and quite another to make hateful attacks against a person.
Thanks for helping me make up my mind and seeing Obama's message of hope as a mere stump speech and not somehing that will actually work.
Hillary 08 !
Hillary was completely accurate in her questioning Obama's organizational skills. What she didn't come out and ask is "As a US Senator, you only bothered to show up to vote for 160 out of 260 (YES 260!!!) issues critical to our country. Do you feel that being a bit more organized you may have increased your level of competance?" Or, perhaps she should have asked Obama, "Do you feel that if you were a bit more organized you would have had the time to READ the contents of the issues (that you did bother to vote on) you mearly voted PRESENT, rather than YES or NO? Or did you lose the content?"
Obama is right!
The President's job is to PICK A GOOD/EXPERIENCED TEAM/SUBORDINATES & DELEGATE!
Obama only needs to make sure he has A GOVERNOR IN OBAMA CABINET!
What the hell has Hilary managed?
The President of 300 million cannot be expected to attend to every detail.
Anyone here thinks that Reagan (whom EVERY Republican seeks to emulate) was an hands on President for 8 years? Or the bungling bush a 'hands on President'? LOL
This is so childish!
Editor of Harvard Law Review & US Senator, Barack Obama, is an incompetent?
The Clintons need to get a life and stop trying to be personal, AND OVER SILLINESS AT THAT!
Hillary: I am the great and poweful OZ. (don't look behind the curtain, it's just Bill)
Why do people think that just because she married Bill, that she is and would run the White House like him. Is she not her own person. Hillary is running, not Bill.
You don't build yourself up by tearing someone else down. This is now what I want in a President and this is not what my religion teaches.
I will vote for either Edwards or Obama, Edwards being my first choice.
Hillary is more honest than Obama will ever be. He likes to pretend that you can survive in Washington without working with lobbyists. He likes to pretend that he is not going to be held responsible to his donors, if he is elected. All of which is a very naive view of politics. Every corporation, interest group, non-attached civic initiative, etc. is going to want something from a theoretical President Obama the day he sets foot in the White House. If he believes otherwise, then he – provided he really holds true to his principles – should rethink his bid for the White House. At least Hillary acknowledges that the system is imperfect and admits that lobbyists/political donors have a role in the legislative process. As long as she makes public who's donating and what they're getting for it, then I think she's more HONEST than Mr. Obama. And if she doesn't do so, groups like the Centre for Responsive Politics will. I really wish I could believe in the Obama world of interest-free politics. But alas that world only exists in movies and fairy-tales.
More attacks from Clinton. Who's surprised?
As American citizens we all need to be educated as to what the job of our local, state, and federal governments. Obama is correct in assuming I don't want the President of the US to be a Chief Operating Officer (COO). First and foremost all of the candidates on the Democratic side are by profession, lawyers. Hillary is not a economist, scientist, doctor or etc. This is true of Bill Clinton as well.
Hearing Hillary debate last night that a President needs to be a master of bureauracy almost made me cringe. I want less bureauracy and more transparency.
A President has to be willing and capable of working with Congress as well as with other world leaders. There is a big difference between someone called a leader vs COO.
There is a reason why the President of the US is called the Leader of the Free World and not the "Manager" or "COO" of the Free World.
Ah! So Hillary is a micro-manager. That ought to work well. Lord knows, we all love it when we work for a micro manager. Things tend to go so well, then. No kind of leader I'd like to follow more than someone who thinks I'm too dumb to understand so they'd better lead me by the nose.
I guess Hillary can't disagree with Obama. Hillary should crown him King.
Hillary is more into micro-managing than leading. Hillary would make a good cabinet member but not President or even VP, in an Obama Administration.
As if Hillary has a management style?
REPLY TO JOHN
"all the Anti Hillary stuff comes out. Sen Obama said he was disorganized"
IT NOT OBAMA SUPPORTS THEY ARE HIS STAFF OF WRITER POSING AS SUPPORT FOR ME TRYING TO GET HRC SUPPORTS TO JUMP SHIP. HOPING THAT IF THEY SAY ENOUGH HORRIFIC THINGS ABOUT HER WE WILL QUICKLY TRANSFORM OUR VOTES FOR OBAMA!!
WRONGE AGAIN STAFFERS
Just what we need. Someone who doesn't know where he put the "red button".
We need a leader and a manager as President not just a leader. Hillary has both and she's a doer. We need an "ORGANIZED HOUSE" that all of us can be proud of. Don't you all agree that we have a "DYSFUNCTIONAL HOUSE" right now? Hillary is the strongest and qualified person who would lead and manage this country and turn it around to be functional again for all Americans. Her plans and solutions to ease our problems are the most solid of all candidates because she has the intelligence and the knowhow on how to go about it right on day one. Look at our present leader now. Apparently paid no attention to organization, detail and accountability and told us many times with charisma that he is a unifier but ended up being a divider. Would we want another one like him?
Hillary '08.
...so being the perfect manager, she did know what her surrogates were saying to flame the ridiculous debate re MLK....this woman wants it all ways...and for those who say Obama does the same: show me one post where Obama has been so petty....
Hillary – If you can't stick to talking about the issues like you committed to on several occasions yesterday, including in front of a National audience on Nationa TV then you need to just be quiet and step aside. Our country is in a world of hurt right now and we need someone who can be positive and bring people together – your behavior does nothing but prove that you are absoutely not the candidate that can do that.
I have never seen SO much HATE as that comes from Obama supporters. You people have foam coming of your mouths–and he's magically going to heal the nation of people like you??? Yeah, right!
Instead of fighting with eachother, let's fight the corporations that are keeping us down….let's join together and vote for a strong leader like ,Barack Obama or JOHN EDWARDS!
This race is about hope. I am an African-American Woman and a Democrat.
I find it interesting that Obama would try to give the impression that race does not matter, and then make a statement that he is the best candidate to rally the black vote. As African-Americans, with their eye on the prize on prosperity, we have a mindset that if we are to become successful and crash glass ceilings, we have to work twice as hard, and be twice as good, as any other ethnic or racial group. With that being said...I challenge Obama and all of his famous followers, to remember how they made it to where they are today...they allowed they work that they did, speak for them. Obama, make a leadership statement that will encourage the informed registered voter, as apposed to focusing on being black. I will not vote for anyone just because he or she is black, and find it quite sad; that this would be the only thing we can hold onto, as we move toward change.
Upon all the goodies that Obama gave to you last night, you are still kissing shadows. Ulalala.
How desperate are you to winning this race? it"s like your birthright.
Obama , is a genius and he spoke in parables while you are stressig issues like a lay man. Wow. That means all your appointees will be rubber stamps.If so, it is needless for one to appoint ministers and workers. in the government
No wonder Mrs Clinton did it alone at michigan even when the party ruled against nomination in that state. From snail stool can man knows how tasteful the snail is.
A tree cannot make a forest. Everybody knows that Bill Clinton will rule again if Mrs Clinton wins the election.. So what.? Could you please tell the American people
your official position since 35years..
No one can change God"s plan. So remain talking .but your constant whipping cannot stop Obama.
It's amazing how many men feel so threatened by Hillary's command of the issues and take charge style. I thought she was great in the debate last night and seems much beter prepared for the job. The bottom line is that she is right on target when she says the president is in charge of the government. Obama is a freshmen. She is clearly the Varsity player here. He's out of his league and it shows in the debates. This country needs someone who will go to work for us in Washington. Does Obama think he can go into Washington on day 1, give a great speach and have entire political system change? Idealism is great, but practicality and hard work is what will get the job done.
Hillary was the Rock Star last night! Is there anytime that she can say any thing about Obama, without all the Obama people come out and are so malicious and spiteful.You must be worried about you candidate! You go Hillary , I am with you all the way to the White House. Experieance wil win.
It occurs to me that anyone in these threads who is adamantly against Clinton can only cite that she's "dishonest" (ie. every politician including Obama) as their reason......
Fact is you are making your decision based on who you like NOT who can do the job.
Wake up people. Obama will not make a good president and anyone who knows what a presidents job really is would agree. All he is, is rainbows and warm fuzzy feelings.... That's not a good president. Thats a good activist but not a president.
Hillary would make one of the best chief-of-staffs to the president, ever. But as president it is back to the 90s. Which I guess some people think is ok, just that anything is better than gw, however. And, as far as Obama, he went to Harvard Law and graduated with suma cum laude honors, he would have had to be pretty darn good with paper work to get that degree/honor. He probably just does not like paper work as most of us don't. HARVARD LAW people!!!
Hey all you Clinton supporters. I have yet hear a response to Senator Clinton not reading the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE before she VOTED FOR THIS WAR. In her words on "Meet the Press", she allowed others to "brief" her.
Management style???!!! You have got to be kidding me. She lacked judgement then, what makes you think she had good judgement now?
Thank you Sabrina! Experience will win.
I am organized. In fact, I am sooo organized that I have very little time to do anything other than stay organized. My daughter, on the other hand, is a living tornado. Her home and office look vandalized, her socks often do not match, and she gets more done in any 24 hour period than any 5 people combined.
Oh yes, and she has never met a person who doesn't absolutely love her. I, however, am too busy organizing to make many friends.
It's a fair point to debate. If you want a disorganized person for the biggest job in the world, vote Obama. If you want a highly organized commander-in-chief, vote Clinton. What's all the fuss about? You choose.
Everyone makes mistakes, but we need a person that can learn from their mistakes and apparently Hillary is NOT this person. She should have learned by now that the American people don't want mudslinging in this campaign. I would rather have a president that is honest and one that is not a crook over one that knows where every piece of paper is!
ABC – Anyone But Clinton!
Obama '08
Hillary the Control Freak!
Hillary should be president and Obama Vice President or visa versa. Both are very intelligent and if they worked together, that could probably bring this "big change about"!
I can understand people liking both candidates for different reasons – what I can't understand is people pushing Hillary's experience. She actually has less political experience (ELECTED POLITICAL EXPERIENCE) than Obama. I would like a full documentation of her alleged experience made public.
And to Alex, must you put Obama's middle name Hussein in all caps while the rest of it is in lowercase? It seems someone on this board has not tolerance for others. Might we be a bit prejudiced against Muslim names?
I have no problem with anyone debating on his views, values, etc. I DO have a problem with anyone making this a matter of whether he is Muslim or not. That should be and is irrelevant – unless you are one of the ignorant people in the country that think every Muslim is here to blow us up. For those people, I truly feel sorry for you. You are missing out on a big world and a lot of people by holding onto narrow minded pettiness.
Lastly, has anyone noticed how Obama's campaign has not been about what the other candidates shortcomings are, but rather about his platform? It is refreshing to have a candidate who refuses to belittle others in order to win. I still really like Edwards, but don't think he will win. Anyone but the nasty, negative Clinton please!
Hey, so Hillary has decided it's not great to be disorganized or cluttered in the Oval Office - the good news for her in running against the non-COO-type Obama is she finally gets to run against ...Bill! Obama is the target, but President Clinton is really the one she says she's better than for running the country, because he was, well, disorganized, perputually late, etc, while she is Ms. On Top of Everything. Just what we need in these trying times, a first-rate Micromanager. Is this really the "ecstatic" life style that she longed for as the graduation speaker at Wellesley all those years ago? I wonder who THAT Hillary Rodham would favor in this election?
Hey all you Clinton supporters. I have yet hear a response to Senator Clinton not reading the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE before she VOTED FOR THIS WAR. In her words on "Meet the Press", she allowed others to "brief" her.
Management style???!!! You have got to be kidding me. She lacked judgement then, what makes you think she had good judgement now?
I just wonder if Hillary can MANAGE to explain her 35 years of experience?
And why couldn't she manage her marriage when Bubba was .... well ... you know.
Obama said he was disorganized regarding slips of paper. He has been organized enough to execute a campaign strategy that has brought out young people to vote in recored numbers, something even the Clintons in all their glory did not do .
I think the people who are lashing out against Hillary are ingorant on every issue that has been debated. Obama is the absolute WRONG choice. In the end, he is UNELECTABLE! In today's crazy world, the Mideast for example, we need experience before change! How can someone such as Obama claim to change anything when he hasn't contributed to any change in the past besides his drug addiction and his religion? It is a proven fact that he has changed his allegiance from the USA to the continent of Africa and nations there. The only change Obama has planned for this country is uniting us with Kenya, which he cares so deeply about. Go move to Kenya and change things there! Wake up people. The Republicans will rip Obama to pieces!
I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can, and I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can bridge differences … better than I can."
Why would Obama think that?
He’s been running his campaign so far almost purely on emotion-based rhetoric, but that is only because he lacks substance, in comparison to the other Democratic candidates, and logic therefore is something his campaign shuns.
But he can’t seriously think that his lack of any solid plans will inspire the American people. If he does think that, then he underestimates the intelligence of the American people.
A President requires much more than just good intentions and an overly optimistic opinion of his own abilities.
Hillary won the debate hands down. Edwards and Obama looked like milk toast compared to her. Also those who think Bill will run the White House have it all wrong. Hillary is a strong, capable, extemely intelligent women who will do it her way. Go HILLARY!!!
I am sick of people saying or suggesting that Mrs Clinton has some experience.
Non of the candidates in the democratic race right now have been an Executive before, non have held the office of a Governor or President before. Where is Mrs. Clinton's experience? She as not run any government before in her life, so quit saying she will hit the ground and running....we do not have past experience in this regard to back up that assumption.
Also, the Obama spoke the truth when she was asked about his weakness, but Clinton gave that typical response that our recruiters normally tell us to tell our interviewers each that they ask us the question "What are your weaknesses?" She said she cares too much...give me a break. We all know that we tell our recruit something that will cast us in good light because we despirately want the job and we know we are not telling the truth.
Mrs Clinton is despirate and we all saw through the lies, we are all humans and I cannot believe that Mrs. Clinton is so angelic that she did not have any weakness and her greatest weakness is 'Caring too much.....for the people or causes she believe in'
America are you going to Vote for someone that will lie to get elected or someone that is open will tell you the truth.
Since Mrs. Clinton is immaculately perfect without a fault nor weakness except for caring too much for people, she is not qualify to be the president of imperfect human beings like us;
Mrs. Clinton try to run for the President & Chief operating Officer of the Angels because they are perfect without faults or weakness just like you. You will not understand us mortals with our imperfections.
Go Obama! Go Edward!!
This President Election is for the democrates to loose, if Clinton wins the nomination I will vote for any Republican. But if Obama or Edward wins it, I will Vote for any of them.
I don't know why Obma is so popular when it comes to debate Hillary always shines even though media trashes her.
Hillary you have millions supporter; please do what ever you are doing; no body out there to save this great nation except you.
Neocon and some anti Hillary democrats pilling together with Obama to defeat you but if democracy survives you will be the winner.
Sabrina, Hillary is malicious and spiteful. She bickers with other candidates and is leading a horribly negative campaign.
If she stuck to the issues instead of doing things like picking at minute details of other candidates' personality flaws and making ill-advised (read: stupid) comments re: MLK's legacy, we wouldn't have all of these "distractions"
You know, I really wanted to like her.
But she truly is as devisive and derisive as everyone says.
She is genuinely nasty – at least when it comes to politics.
She can't help herself, she knows no other way.
Sorry Hilary! Why in the worls is she making a fun of herself. Don`t be surprised if you hear Bill in the next few hours saying Obama started this stuff again.
Honestly, look like this woman is determined to split the democrats!
If you are interested in carrying papers around give Romney a call, I bet he gonna give you a job.
Barack answered the question regarding strength and weakness honestly, while Hillary would not. And then Hillary makes political hay with Barack's honest answer. If you want a back-biting dishonest creep, vote Hillary. And watch over the next few days as she expands her veiled attacks against Barack's honest answer. Hillary doesn't have the guts to answer such a question honestly; she just has mendacity to tear down anyone in her way for the big quest–a woman with no scruples.
Hillary is clearly acting out of desperation. I don't care what Obama can't do. Tell me what you can do?
Besides that, I disagree with her on this issue. The president is not there to micro-manage and "run the government". That's what Bush has done, and he's proven it doesn't work. They are there to guide, like Obama says.
I'm not an Obama supporter, but I sure hope he gets the nomination, cause he's clearly our best option on the Democratic side.
It’s evident that there is a large number of young democratic voters that have been inspired by the speeches and charisma of Senator Obama; and his vision for Amercia. I think it is wonderful when the younger generation feel the importance of voting in the Presidential election.
But like all fascination, the honeymoon period ends. It is this time that one must reflect on the imporatance of a Presidential vote and it’s implication for the future. One who honored to be the United States Presdient must lead from day one. This is not a position with “on the job training”. The candidates past experiences must build for this moment.
Yes, experience is very important. No more important then selecting a Supreme Court Justice who past activities, experiences and judgements are scrutized. Vote Hillary Clinton or John Edwards.
Hillary will lose, plain and simply she doesnt have what it takes, but she is a good liar like Bill, but this crap isnt going to work. Why dont Hillary and Bill just grab a rocking chair and checkard board and call it a life.
If Hillary thinks that she is intelligent enough to be able to get into the details on every aspect that the US government is now involved in, she is dillusional.
Of course she does...it's what she does, folks...it's the only thing she knows how to do...we are not actually expecting her to have substance, are we? Let's not set our standards too high for HRC.
Sorry, Sabrina...there is little she can say that won't be criticized...because we know that everything she says is garbage. But we know HRC supporters will think anything and believe anything, even were well placed tears (only suckers would have believed those tears and it appears there are many).
I find it all so odd that Mr. Clinton played the "change" card when he was running and he discounted the experience he now says is mandatory. HRC supporters, like the Clinton's will change their stories and sentiment to blindly follow their candidate (another similarity to what we see with Bush).
HRC is just like Bush. Want more of the same, vote for HRC...you'll get it.
If I recall, the Clinton's stole some china from the White House when the left. She is a detail person indeed.
Derrick, he was right on foreign policy in Pakistan when he said they were not stable last summer, but he was called stupid for saying it. Looks right to me now.
Obama won. Clintonistas fear what they don't understand.
During my years in college, I had one of the most disorganized desk you could ever imagine ( similar to what Obama said). At the same time, I was one of the most intelligent student in my class. I was an honor student from my first to last year in college.
Intelligent people do not spend time organizing their desk. They have more important things to focus on.
Shame on this divisive woman.
Mike, kudos to you, I couldn't have said this better....
"It's amazing how many men feel so threatened by Hillary's command of the issues and take charge style. I thought she was great in the debate last night and seems much beter prepared for the job. The bottom line is that she is right on target when she says the president is in charge of the government. Obama is a freshmen. She is clearly the Varsity player here. He's out of his league and it shows in the debates. This country needs someone who will go to work for us in Washington. Does Obama think he can go into Washington on day 1, give a great speach and have entire political system change? Idealism is great, but practicality and hard work is what will get the job done."
Obama supporters are accepting him simply because he is "inspirational", they are accepting a candidate that is NOT ready for the Presidency. Give him a term or two, more experience, less empty poetic “words,” PROOF of more responsibilty of his actions (like actually voting YES or NO rather than PRESENT on issues that matter), and he may be ready. People must take away emotions from their decision making. Vote for the candidate that will put food on your table and not for the next poetic speaker that sells you the Brooklyn Bridge.
Blah, blah, blah...Clinton is scared!
What a trivial point to highlight as a weakness of her opposition? To have competent assistants to which you delegate the details is the mark of a great leader! I want a Chief who holds those assistants to consistent performance relative to the primary objectives that are best for the nation! I want my guy being able to see and anticipate what is coming...not buried in "doing" the details.
Wakeup Hillary...this betrays your intention of a centrally controlled administration incapable of operating w/o your involvement. Talk about bureaucracy! We'll be in a constant state of reaction to details versus a position of leadership!
I am an african american who would like to consider voting for Mr. Obama, but his prior experience continues to be an issue for me. He is very inspiring but my I cannot support him on his rhetoric alone. I wish there was more there but it's just not enough for me. John Edwards does not seem genuine at all and therefore Ms. Clinton will be getting my vote.
I don't think Obama's answer was a good one, which is perhaps why the dialog here is so acerbic. It's hard to defend someone who says they are disorganized and rely on other people to realize their vision. Even George W. Bush never admitted the former part of that statement.
Why wouldn't Hillary Clinton jump on that? It was a foolish admission.
Many very smart people and some even not so smart have exciting and compelling visions for a better America and a better world. But we don't elect them to CEO positions because they are not effective managers – and when we have it's been a huge mistake – e.g. Jimmy Carter.
Someone offered up Albert Einstein as a successful disorganized leader. Albert Einstein was a brilliant, successful scientist. I wouldn't trust him to run a coffee shop, much less the corporation that is the United States of America.
People seem to really dislike Hillary Clinton because they see her as power-hungry, calculating and a liar. And which politician who is running to be the leader of the free world isn't power-hungry or calculating? And who among them hasn't fabricated stories to promote themselves?
People, just pick the guy or gal who is going to be your voice AND who can successfully navigate through Washington's treachorous waters – the person who knows what is takes to get good legislation passed.
Lord – look at all these comments.
Sen. Obama said that he didn't know how to run a bureaucracy and didn't see it as his job. I cannot imagine a job applicant for a mid-management position at even the most inefficient firm making the following statement and closing the deal.
"But I'm not an operating officer. Some in this debate around experience seem to think the job of the president is to go in and run some bureaucracy. Well, that's not my job. My job is to set a vision of 'here's where the bureaucracy needs to go.'"
In the first place, "going and running" the federal bureaucracy IS the principal responsibility of any president. At least of the United States. Incomprehension on this point demonstrates the kind of stunning political immaturity it is impossible to overstate. And this callowness will have real consequences for people's lives. If the president runs the bureaucracy incompetently, or worse, fails to run it at all, then just for starters: balanced budgets go out the window, mine workers die, pollutants stay in the air and water, worker safety rules of all description are ignored or broken, our hard-earned tax dollars are wasted, corruption runs wild and federal money (OUR money) flows into the hands of corrupt individuals and corporations. Worse comes to worse, disaster victims drown, burn, or suffer as the nation looks on in horror.
CNN.com should do a poll on who was the most honest candidate with asked about their greatest strength and weakness. I can bet everyone will say Obama.
cadem22,
I have a clue. Were we watching the same debate? Since when is an informed answer considered a bad thing. The only point I was making is that when someone is disorganized in one respect, it tends to be a pattern that carries through in every aspect of their life. As someone who is incredibly busy, I require organization and keen planning. I can't imagine how someone could expect to run the country if they admittedly lose important papers within two minutes.
Also, I agree with those of you who are pointing out how vicious Obama supporters are. Any little thing and BAM! "Must protect Obama, must bad-mouth Hillary!" In contrast, Hillary's supporter seem to be informed and support their arguments well. It sounds like the candidates have attracted their own types respectively. Now let's just hope the tactful, informed Americans vote!
Here is the thing....holding the office of the President of the United States of America is the most important position in the world. Obama's comment that he would not be a "Chief Operating Officer" is troubling to me. And when he said this: "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,”....ummm we need a President that is organized, willing to challenge the government as THE HEAD OF STATE, CHIEF IN COMMAND OF THE MILITARY, as well as someone that is able to "bring people together". Obama is not the only person running this race that can bring people together...news flash all of the people running are very important and significant persons in the government. The President should YES have a view... or plan to move the country forward.. BUT should ALSO be able to live up to the title of COMMANDER IN CHIEF.. which is of course the title of this position. Read the duties of the PRESIDENT in the CONSTITUTION! haha. EVERY candidate in the democratic party wants CHANGE. I want a candidate that is for action...not beliefs...dreams.... DREAMS will not help us out of the crises in the economy, Iraq, terrorism, education, taxes, energy, environment and other major topics. It is actually looking over bills, discussing, being organized and strong about your opinions... not having an aid have to "keep track of you".... or give you papers "two seconds before you need them"....
I respect Barack Obama as a fellow biracial American Citizen (Black father, White Mother), I respect his love for the country, his vision.... this makes a great statesman.... a great Secretary of State... not a President... To be President you have to understand the seriousness and of the role that you are taking on... and treat it with respect...
I have already had 8 years of a Dreamer... and we see where that has taken us... I want a Do'er.
Do we need a visionary leader with good judgement, foresight and who can bring opposing people to achieve common goals? Then Obama is your PRESIDENT.
Or do we need a spotless, good office Manager who doesnt read inteligence estimates before voting to go to war and who will vote for a bankruptcy reform bill then say later she's happy the bill didn't pass. Ohh and lest I forget one who will divide the country right in the middle? Then Hillary is your CEO.
Where Obama is running for the presidency to work for the american people, Clinton is running for the presidency so that she can work at the oval office.
I notice everyone saying that they are proud to be American, that Obama all the way, and other stuff. Surely if you were proud you would vote for at least someone who would at least not turn away from the american flag or at least place their hand over their heart. What about using the Koran. There is other stuff that I don't really want to go into right now. Please don't say all that "I'm proud to be American junk and then say Obama all the way" junk. Thank you.
THIS woman has lost her mind!! She is getting too pathetic and desperate. Well, this aint a kingdom. You don't become president by your last name...or Jeb would be running.
I think Hillary makes an important point. I want a President who is organized and on top of thing. I can get inspired at church, not by my president.
As a retired United States Army Officer .......men do take orders from Women everyday......You obviously have never served your country young man!!!! We must have a President who is organized and capable of keeping track of all the important happenings in the world....I notice that GW's desk is always empty...sort of like his mind!!!....Barack will make a wonderful VP...Hillary will teach him a few things he needs to know so he can take over after her 8 years are up.....GO HILL!!!
This is definitely going to be a win for Obama for this argument. A president is suppose to Lead a nation towards better times through his hard work, morals, and a less hands on approach. No one in the country wants a bigger government that Hillary just stated towards having by using a "hands on" approach. The government has done quite enough. Its time we had a "hands off" policy.
"I think it’s important that we have a president who understands that you have to run the government," she said.
What she really means is "run over" the people of this great country, including a willingness to say anything and do anything, regardless. With HRC the ends will always justify the means, which is why you can't trust her position on the war. With Obama, the ends don't justify the means if it includes trampling people underfoot.
Both Clinton's are con artists. They have a suit for every occasion. They have a change suit, a management suit, a high road suit, a low road suit , an white elitist suit, a plantation owner suit, an emotional suit, and on and on and on.
Well...you can put a monkey into a suit all day long. It will never make it a man. So here the Clinton's go again, playing dress up. All hype and no substance. Just more of the same. A vote for HRC is not a vote for change, but a vote for the same.
Why shouldnt she point this out? People dont make sense....these people are running for office against each other. They should be able to call each other out as long as it isnt personal.
Hillary made Obama look like he isnt ready...which he isnt.
Clinton/Obama 08
after 8 years as VP Obama will be ready
if you have an organized mind, you don't need a neat and organized desk. That's a well known fact.
The media would have us believe Obama supporters are a bunch of starry-eyed idealists. This forum makes them out to be a bunch of childish whiny haters. If Clinton and Obama's voting records are virtually identical, which they are, shouldn't we judge them on ability to do the job? If you put aside your ugly probably sexist hatred for Hillary Clinton for one minute the answer is obvious.
OMG. Obama supporters are getting more pathetic by the day. Sometimes I wonder, who are these freaks supporting him??
Obama can't keep hold of paperwork and he thinks he can run a country? GIVE ME A BREAK!! NO HE CAN'T!!
Of course she does.
You see that finger she is always pointing. That's HRC's management style. You notice how her finger never points inward at her, right? A picture truely is worth a thousand words.
Vot for HRC is you like playing the blame game.
I posted a comment 45 minutes ago and it still doesn't show. However, many other posts seem to get right up here on the thread within a few minutes.
Mine is now effectively burried so I think you can approve it now, guys! Thanks!
So, now CNN is not only VERY shodily reporting on whats going on but they are also exceptionally poor forum moderators. I'm gonna stop comming to this site. It is truely pathetic what people write here anyway.
Including me. Ha Ha Have fun ripping each others heads off guys!
Ummm...hello! Plenty of successful high-powered folks keep a messy desk until their secretary gets in there and straightens up. That's what a good secretary is for. I'm not the most organized either, but I know this fact and have an excellent assistant. There are plenty of organized folks that I know that spend wayyy too much time creating lists for their other lists. My assistant does that for me while I focus of the big picture and LEAD.
Hillary showed a united Presidential presence of healing that tried to show Nevada, South Carolina and the rest of the country what she can do. I thought she was great about Yucca and I like that she is trying, in spite of these people's opposition, to say what she can and will do.
So I hope everybody was watching because they can judge for themselves. I found she had some specific, well thought out plans about how to help with the credit crunch and improving schools. She and everyone were surprisingly united.......so what's going on here on this site?
I wonder about why Obama's attack dogs are still getting so foul when this debate was about healing so I don't think they're showing he could be the leader he'd like. If they're not inspired to make changes why would the opposing party be inspired on things they're fighting real hard against? Then he said he didn't want to be an executive– but that's the whole branch of government, the Executive Branch that needs to be rescued here.
Obama's example about how inspiration was the way to lead was he thought he could inspire people to change their green house gas uses. His attack dogs still aren't inspired enough to listen to him when he says to quit talking like this on his behalf. Why on Earth would the militant opposers not just start buying more and more SUV's and gas guzzling Hummers to send a big bad message to Washington and offset any good? It's a bad idea that makes no sense, and you can see it ain't working here.
Barney you are so mean. I'm a Obama supporter but I would never good gosh...politics can be get dirty!
Obama '08!
Clinton yet again attacks Obama because he gave an honest answer while she gave a typical job interview answer (something about just caring too darn much). Her actual greatest weakness, quite obviously, is that she is unable to tell the truth to the American people. I, for one, have had enough of that.
If Obama and Edwards team up to be in Washington D.C. on day one, then this country is for all and will be safe for ever more.. but Hillary C., she just keeps her mouth running all the time without knowing where America is heading and which countries are or will be targetting America if she's to become a president.
we need a "new change", and that "new change" begins with Obama being the President and Edwards as the V.P.
Hillary just mind your business and stop complaining about Obama.
You have moved from experience to change
Just campaign dont complain
Derrick,
Being proud of your heritage is not bad. Please go to factcheck.org and learn the truth about his church and religious beliefs. I think there are a lot of people afraid of someone outside the norm being elected and are creating a lot of false rumors to make him unelectable. Hillary – again – does not have proven leadership experience. She has less elected leadership experience than Obama does!
Please get your facts straight before submitting potentially damaging statements on these boards. If you are one of the people trying to diminish his chances by KNOWINGLY spreading false, prejudiced and inflammatory information, then I am disgusted. If this is because you have received incorrect information, then please educate yourself.
Vote for whoever you want, but please do so with an EDUCATED argument and not some overblown lie that has been publicized and proven wrong.
I believe people will see the truth about Hillary Clinton.Now , she is so focused on Obama. I can see that Obama is admitting to his weakness and I think the American people wants to see that in our candates.Hillary seems to have no weaknesses, she seems more to focus on Obama's and is always trying to critize him and everything he says...
President Clinton was never an organized man , he was always late for everything ..the truth is he still got the job done..It showed me that Hillary is a micomanager and thats why many of our troops died in Iraq because Donald Rumsfield micomanage the Military and it was a disaster,,,So back off Hillary and let people do their jobs and stop trying to pick at everything Obama says...
This woman is so out for POWER...TALK ABOUT YOUR STRENGTHS AND WEKNESSES hILLARY...
SELF CHECK HERE hILLARY.
Oh brother! What a ridiculous challenge set forth by Senator Clinton! I just couldn't help laughing out loud when I read this. Evidently the good senator is grasping at straws, knowing there is nothing else to complain about now that she has promised to keep the "race" issue out of her what-has-been a very negative campaign.
Now folks, Is there anyone with common sense out there who believes our next commander-in-chief will spend his/her time keeping on top of varied bureaucratic issues by maintaining a neat, orderly desk?
Most vitally important is that our next leader, who I pray will be Barack Obama, will select qualified, intelligent individuals to work with him. He has promised to select the best regardless of party affiliation. And I believe he will and can.
Can't believe that some of our citizens prefer that he work at straightening up his office while important decisions are needed to be made in this most critical time in our history.
Go OBAMA!!!
The bottom line is whether you are looking for a president that talks a good game or a president that handles the needs of this country. Bringing people together doesnot always resolve problems. concerns, issues. You have to be able to provide solutions. There has not been any demonstration as far as I am concerned by Mr. Obama that he can lead this Nation. In corporate America many executives use the word "change", they come in with that attitude that they can bring all of it together and at the end of the day nothing has changed or after a period of time that what was changed goes back to its original method.
CNN stop driving wedges by reporting these unimportant stories.
You know what guys; I can simply not have a third term of Bill Clinton in the White House. The Presidency is almost being transformed into a family property. First the Bushes, then the Clintons followed by a Bush and then another Clinton? Give us a break. This whole thing is the biggest mess I have ever seen in my entire life. No!!!!!!!!! If we continue on that line, very soon we will have Chelsea contesting the Presidency....... What a mess. Don’t we have other families in America? Give me any other family and I will vote till I drop dead, but please not another Clinton.
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rely to jenny
Young people( meaning 18-22) always think that the know what’s best that’s great that the have that conferences however we all know that obama is counting on them because that will be the self-possessed thing to do. They want realize until after the fact that they were wrong and most of the time parents are usually right.
Let's all hope Hispanics in Nevada wise up and make a change. Don't vote status-quo because you will only get more of the same. Regardless of Hillary's self proclaimed experience, she will only divide the country, and the minority will suffer the most. Believe me, she will not be able to get anything done, because all her time will be spent fighting with people that are at odds. It's reckless for the country to vote in the Clintons. Straight Talk.
Vote Obama.
If Hillary wins the nomination, will the Obama supporters vote for her? I am a true and through Hillary supporter, but if Obama wins, I will support the Democratic party. Can you say that? It's so disappointing to see all of these negative comments. The media feeds them to you. Ignore them, and think for yourselves. Whether that leads you to Obama, Hillary, or Edwards, it doesn't matter. We are democrats. Let's try and remember why.
Who is perfect?
Abraham Lincoln, probably our best President, often carried government documents in his stove pipe hat because he would otherwise lose them. His law office was a shambles I have read. The Gettysburg Address was famously written on the back of an envelope on the way to give the speech. Of course he was a busy man.
There is a broad spectrum of leadership styles. Some leaders are very detail oriented and into the nuts-and-bolts of the operation. Others construct a vision and describe it in detail for their subordinates – the nuts and bolts people – so that they can implement it. Still others are deciders. The leader gathers smart people around and listens to each adviser's recommendation, then the leader chooses which path to take.
Which is the best method? It depends very much on the situation. Ronald Reagan was a vision guy, but his subordinates pretty much did what they wanted to and Reagan never realized it. Both George W. Bush and Harry Truman were deciders, but Mr. Bush is hardly Harry Truman. Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter were very nuts-and-bolts, and got into the details to the consternation of their subordinates.
Personally, I would like to see all of the Democratic candidates in the government. Make Gov Richards vice-president, Edwards can go to Labor, Biden can be Secretary of State, Clinton can be chief of staff, and Obama can be Secretary of Education, where we desperately need a new vision. And Republican John McCain would be a superb Secretary of Defense.
Those who have read Doris Goodwin's wonderful book on Lincoln "Team of Rivals" know that Lincoln chose for his cabinet those who ran against him for the nomination. His skillful management of them was key to his ultimate success. The problem is, who will play Lincoln's part in our new government?
ada,
Really? First that is just funny. I also had honors all through collage and in fact I continue to do well as I pursue a Ph.D. in bioinorganic chemistry but I am very organized and clean. I don't fault obamas lack of organization as a fault but his lack of experience. Please don't group people...."Intelligent people do not spend time organizing their desk. They have more important things to focus on"...it just makes you look ignorant and takes away from any point you may have.
I am a Democrat and I would vote for a Republican before I would vote for Billary Clinton. I would *not* just not vote – I would vote *against* her. In the United States there is no room for royal famlilies. Billary Clinton is a woman, Barack Obama is an African American ... is that any qualification ? I did not think so either.
I just hope that the people will be able to see through the spin and recognize the opportunity we have with Barack Obama. If not ... I will have to vote 'Republican' for the first time in my life.
By the way, Bill Clinton is a likable guy and a much better president than the Bush Dynasty – being married to him should really not be part of his wife's resume. We should not forget the Clinton scandals though ... a major embarassment to the country and the reason why Al Gore had to count the ballots to the very last (?) vote.
Frank & Family
Hillary has been very effective twice now comparing Obama to George Bush, by Obama's own admissions.
First, Obama gets the likeability card, but Hillary reminded us that seven years ago we voted for the candidate we "most wanted to have a beer with" and look where it got us – involved in war, going into a recession, the mortgage crises, etc.
Then, last night, she equated Barack's vision of the presidency to that of Bush's as a network of advisors running the government. Now, how many times have we all complained that Dick Cheney is really the President and that Rice, and Rove, and all the others are the real ones that are calling the shots.
I think these comparisons are not only good debate maneuvering, but also very real indications of what we have to look forward to with an Obama presidency. Now, if he does get the nomination, I think there is no way in hell he would win; but if so – we have a lot more of Bush to look forward to.
Forgive me for asking, but paper pushing is why they have a staff isn’t it? Assisting with issues is the job of the Presidential cabinet and their many staffs. Department heads oversee all of their staffs. Does Hillary plan on eliminating all of these positions and taking on the job of everyone? I thought the job of a leader was to govern over not to file away papers. A leader delegates these responsibility’s to others just as a CEO of large company does. I think the only office supply he needs is a pen to sign or veto bills for which it’s Congress’s job to manage the paper work. That is if they plan on firing their staff’s as well.
Didn't Bush have the same kind of approach as Obama is putting forward? Do the vision thing, but leave the details to everyone else. and you all wonder how the US got into the many messes it is now in. Don't make the same mistakke twice people – Obama's words may be pretty, but his managerial approach is a proven flaw, a fatal one at that.
McCain will cream Obama in the general election.
Obviously you guys are only paying attention to what you want to and not the facts. If any of you are in business out there, who would you want to run your company – someone with experience or someone that makes you feel good. Running a social thing on the South side of Chicago doesn't count, you guys. (Ever run a non-profit?)
You Hillary-bashers don't even know why you don't like her and therefore, you are a product of the media and Republicans over the years. Why don't you clear you mind and really lay down the issues side by side – more than just emotion – and see what is important.
I don't care if you vote for her, him or anyone for that matter, but PLEASE, get a grip and stop all of this bashing on her and others. If Obama is truly for change and bringing people together – you couldn't tell it from his supporters!!!!
Obama has no real experience .
His only claim to fame is that he has 10 years as an elected official . And nowhere does he have any experience in real economics.
They fail to mention that 8 of it was localized illinois goverment. It isnt the same thing as national experience.
Clinton has more 'elected official' time on a NATIONAL STAGE , which of course is kind of important when the job they are both applying for is the HIGHTEST national stage job.
Then of course there is the most important tid bit of information.
She was first lady of the nation from 93 to 2001. She was privvy to how the white house works, how everything to do with being president works. Her husband was widely considered a good president, but of course you can pick and complain about anyone i suppose.
Unless you are an outright Obama ZEALOT , you cant ignore that type of information.
lets just throw that under the rug and say it 'doesnt count'
LOL .
Seems to me that every breath in the Clinton campaign is calculated to the nth degree. They are pros at following the playbook.
I've noticed that Hillary, just like George W, never admits mistakes & has no faults.
Obama's biggest fault is not calling her on her so called experience. His silence on it worries me. To me it's an elephant in the room. I don't see her as any more experienced in any relevant way, but apparently, he does.
I am still waiting for specifics and not just descriptions of Obama's slogan "change" - Bush will be leaving the world in such a mess, the logic behind this magical non-definitive 'CHANGE' of Obama is beginning to concern many - but just not enough voters. Specifics please Obama!
As far as I am concerned Hillary Clinton is the only candidate worthy of being
President. Hillary, You have my vote no matter what.
Isn't that exactly what the President does?
Leave it in the hands of the staff that he or she picks to HELP them run the government?
We currently have a hands on guy, "The decider", and we have had them in the past with mixed results.
Since I didn't hear his speech and only read the excerpts here I would have to read or hear it before passing comment on his management style. I gave the Clinton's friend, Mr. Johnson, the same consideration before understanding that he made a comment about Obama's drug use and then turning around saying he didn't.
Hillary needs to stop with her disgraceful negativity, can she ever shut up? She is full of it, and thats why if she does become Democratic nominee we will see four more years of republicans.
OBAMA 08, dont believe Hilary's lies.
What gives? I have just recently started reading these things and am amazed at how much time and effort some people spend bashing the Clintons. Get over it! Watch a sunset, hug a loved one, take a walk with your dog, do some charity work. In other words get a life! The plain truth is that the Clintons are no worse than most other politicians and Obama and Edwards are no better. The best we can hope for is that if one of them wins the presidency, they will grow into the job. The important thing is to get rid of the RepublicansThat have led us so many places that most of don't really want to. Vent on them for a change
Don January 16, 2008 4:38 pm ET
Also, I agree with those of you who are pointing out how vicious Obama supporters are. Any little thing and BAM! "Must protect Obama, must bad-mouth Hillary!" In contrast, Hillary's supporter seem to be informed and support their arguments well. It sounds like the candidates have attracted their own types respectively. Now let's just hope the tactful, informed Americans vote!
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LIVING ON???
I really think we need to have some who can do more than give a good speech. It seems like Mr. Obama is applying for a job where he doesn't really understand the entire job description. We need someone who is multifaceted and can actually speak to someone without it turning into a "speech" which is a common tactic to hide what you really don't know.
MAN..............Obama really stuck his foot in his mouth last night didn't he? I sure don't want someone running the country that is not organized and cannot keep track of anything. We also need someone that's a good manager and can get things done. If I was leaning at all towards Obama before, after last night it's HILLARY ALL THE WAY!!! YOU GO GIRL......................THIS COUNTRY NEEDS A LEADER LIKE YOU!!!
I cannot stand this woman. For all of the talk about a backwater governor from Arkansas and his rise to the top, "...and it all started in a place called Hope", there's no bigger betrayal to the aspirations of all than Bill and Hillary calling Obama a fairy tale. Shame on the Clintons. They've become what they used to hate. Each day I downgrade these political, blindly ambitious couple. It's hard to believe that they've fallen so far away from their cause in 1988. Not only have they become lost, they've become evil barring nothing to capture power again. Anyone, I mean anyone, other than another Clinton.
People this is politics – it's like a game of chess you have to take advantage of your oponents weakness. I think the Obama vs Clinton thing is only going to get worse before it gets better.
I would like to vote for Obama but his "inspirational" speeches are not consistent, why is he so blah in debates he umm and ahhs all the way through. I think a leader should be decisive and confident. This is like a major world leader interview – you know if you've ever gone through an interview – that is the worst sort of question to answer – because any weakness that Hillary would reveal would be stretched and used by everyone no matter for what purpose. She know she can get the job done and doesn't feel her weaknesses need to be revealed to the world. If Obama was smarter he wouldn't have said that – the American people aren't all stupid (apart fromt he people who voted for Bush the second time round) we know that all humans – all leaders have their weaknesses, and we shouldn't expect a perfect candidate.
I'm voting for Hillary – she has what it takes.
I am absoulutely floored by the sexist and backwards comments that have been made here. "Hillary should be his secretary?" a "Vice President"? This is exactly why Obama is losing ground with white women. Keep talking Obama supporters- all of you are under 20 on here (why else would you have time to post in the middle of the day repeatedly, unless you were out of class and didnt have 9-5 jobs?) You are turning women off and motivating record numbers of women to come out. Look at what is happening in SC. Obama had a 12 point lead in SC before the whole MLKJ statement and reaction- now she is within 5% points of him. Ha! Look at Michigan- even though she was the only candidate on the ballot, Edwards and Obama supporters could have voted uncommitted to express thier support. Instead, 55% went to Hillary. ,Women voted overwhelmingly for Clinton.... Keep it up with the sexist comments... Hillary came from behind in Nevada... to be tied... we will see who wins....
Go Hillary!
"Winning the Future"- sound familiar?---Hillary has a solutions-based approach to her future presidency. "The next president will inherit the worst opening scenario in history- two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) plus Iran, the rise of China, and Indai, and the continuing problems in Africa" according to Holbrooke- I agree- but, along with those problems the recession- yes, we are in it; although many say we are heading in that direction-but, we may have arrived!---Our challenges of improving public education, balanced U.S. Supreme Court- is Hillary Clinton!- She is the smartest, best qualified woman this country has ever had or possibly will for some time. Lets vote Hillary!
Hilary Clinton is an "Obama girl". lol
She can't stop calling Obama's name.
No doubt Hilary calls Obama's name in her sleep while bill is contemplating an intern in a Clintons' THIRD TERM
Please Clinton Supporter, answer this question:
Why is Fox News Rupert Murdock a fundraiser for Clinton.
Google it, you will see it is true.
Obama supporters and Edwards supporters does this bother you?
Oh my God, Hillary! How many people do you have around you taking care of every little thing about your Presidential race? How many people are keeping track of everything for you, your schedule, who you are to speak to, reminding you who different people are, before you walk up to them and act like they are a long lost friend, schedules your appointments, writes your bills that you are introducing into congress? I do not believe that you alone are doing it. Nor do I believe that you would be doing it in the White House.
I am a nurse. I have really saved someone's life more than once. Am I incompetent because my desk is a mess? You sound more like a Republican everyday. You can't get elected on who you are, who you are married to, or what you do, and all of that "experience" so you can only find fault in everyone else. It is time to go home and learn how to bake cookies!
Are we really sure it is Hillery and not him that is running?
Tom Davie,
What experience did Abraham Lincoln (no I am not saying Obama is as good since no one knows yet) have before being elected?
He would have just been seen as a dreamer and a failure.
I'm voting for Hillary, the seasoned leader.
Jessica
I admire your devotion to the party BUT look what voteing Blindly did to the republicans. and then to the world...you could put a chimp on the republican ticket and they would vote for it just because they are tools. ( Oh wait they DID put a chimp on the ticket and they voted for him TWICE!!!!)
That election period NONE OF THE ABOVE would have been nice.
Remember when Bush explained away all of his Boozing and DWI etc on Youthful exhuberance? Not ONE Republican even FLINCHED when it came out in the NATIONAL PRESS that he was over 40 years old when they happenned. This shows a mentality of TOTAL denial.
BTW I am this tough on BOTH Parties. I am sick of them Both. People were all trained in school to root for the home team and never grew out of it. No thinking just rooting.
I think it was a good question, what faults do you have? We all have faults, but when Obama told the American people his faults, Hillary started to attack him. Is this the same Hillary that had just said we need to stop fighting among ourselfs. I noticed Hillary by pasted giving a straight answer when she was asked the same question. Maybe she already thought the american people already know her faults, lieing, cheating, corrupt, able to attack people who get in her way. So Hillary was right we already know her faults.
Kenn,
If you haven't heard it, then you haven't been listening or watching him because he has been describing it all the time and you can see his 65 page plan for "Change" for the country on his website.
Reply to sean
From Sean: "Lest try this: You have 2 candidates for a position in your firm;
Candidate 1. says he disorganized and wants paper work 2 minutes before they need it.
Candidate 2. Does not mention anything about being disorganized.
Who would you Hire?"
I was actually in this position once. I asked both candidates their strengths and weaknesses. One person said their weakness and the other BS'ed the question and wasn't straight-forward. Who did I decide was the better candidate for the position? The one who was honest about their weakness.
No one is perfect and to act like you are raises a huge red flag.
It tells me that :
1) you would never admit to your mistakes and
2) you would have difficulty listening to others when you are wrong
hmmm reminds me of good ol' Bush
To Jessica;
I am a democrat, but in all honesty, I just can't feel inclined to vote for Senator Clinton if she becomes the nominee. And I know many others who feel the same.
Sadly, she has disappointed us in the way she has run her campaign and, frankly, I find her patronizing attitude and her self-serving ways very annoying. I can't get excited about her representing me throughout the world.
For me, anyone but Clinton.
For those of you who are trying to say that a person who admits to being somewhat unorganized (with physical objects, mind you– not ideas), I challenge you to work as an assistant for just one powerful influential executive. I have assisted many and I can't think of one who is meticulously organized. I'm the guy that hands them "the paper" 2 minutes before the meeting where they land the multi-million dollar deal. True movers-and-shakers understand how to delegate responsibilities so they can focus on the big picture, and bring together the best team to make that big picture a reality. True innovators can actually SEE that big picture and not get tripped up in the paper-pushing. Hillary can be VP (though I prefer Edwards for that job), but I want Obama to lead our country out of the mess we're in.
When are Americans going to get sick of the dirty politics? The lying? The pandering to special interest groups? Mostly, when are we going to take responsibility for our own actions and realize that "we the people" can bring true change to this country if we work TOGETHER with a president that understands that he works for US, not the other way around?
Lastly, this argument about experience is ridiculous. Just because Clinton has been in the Washington system longer doesn't make her a better leader... If anything, it just means she's had more time to marinate in the corrupt sewage that sits there. A great president will be one who is committed to all the people, not just the ones represented by lobbyists, and has the strength of character to establish an experienced, honest, and ethical cabinet to assist with the "paper-pushing."
Obama '08
Hillary, your style of campaigning is dirty and will never give you this presidency. Please turn the page.
@ MarkieBee:
You're hilarious!!!!
My thoughts exactly!!!
LOL...hahahhahahhahahhaahahhahahahhhhahaaahhahaaa
still laughin'
People, these are "DEBATES". They are called that for a reason. Back and forth between the candidates and calling out differences and pointing out the obvious is not an "ATTACK". This is not a hug-fest!
We don't find out the strengths and weaknesses of our candidates by having everything be hunky dory.
A definition:
debate |diˈbāt|
noun
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
• an argument about a particular subject, esp. one in which many people are involved
verb [ trans. ]
argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner
Clinton expressing her opinion on Obama's obvious expression of weakness is not an attack. He put the information out there- and it was NOT in his best interests. In a debate, leaving a weakness out there like that is free topic for others involved in the debate.
With all that said, my vote is for EDWARDS on 1/26.
I don't know if anyone noticed (the media sure as hell won't- shame on you CNN for your pathetic coverage of John Edwards and for making this a 2 person campaign!) but he had some incredible points in the debate last night. Edwards and Clinton topped the debate. Obama was clearly the weak, weak link, fumbling and backpedaling. I see nothing presidential OR inspiring about this man!
Jenny.....listen to what you are saying "Obama said he was disorganized regarding slips of paper. He has been organized enough to execute a campaign strategy that has brought out young people to vote in recored numbers, something even the Clintons in all their glory did not do"
First of all, Obama has not executed a campaign strategy at all. His entire campaign is inspirational poetry.
FACTS: He has not come up with his own economy plan – he basically plagiarized Clinton's and added in a few numbers. Obama has not demonstrated how he would execute his health plan, Clinton has. He talks of "Hope, Unity, and Change" – when he had the responsibility to vote as a US Senator, he only bothered to show up to vote for 160 out of 260 (YES out of 260!!!) issues critical to our country. Actions speak louder than words. Period. Do you really want a President that only shows up 61% of the time when his country is depending on him?
It's great that Obama has inspired young voters and minority voters that have never taken the time, or interest, to vote. He does SOUND wonderful. He's an incredible speaker. However, it's going to take more than a speech to run this country. Hopefully, for the sake of this country, the newly “inspired” voters will see that Clinton can, and HAS, made REAL contributions to this country and will continue to do so if given the chance. She IS calculated, focused, detail oriented, described as a “work horse” in the senate, motivated, pushy, and powerful – EXACTLY what we need to clean up the mess left behind by Bush. Do you honestly believe that Obama is going to “inspire” the administration to change? Give him a term, or two, a real RECORD of “change” and he MAY be a good future President….just not yet – Hillary Clinton needs to tidy up first…Obama can't handle the distaster Bush has left behind.
I am so disgusted with the Obama supporters taking over all the blogs. All they do is spew hatred about Hillary and talk about Obama's change and his anti washington stance. Do you people forget he is part of washington. I still say he will leave senate if he doesn't get nomination for president. Then will see how serious he was about changing the country. He will go for the money in private sector. 2008 prediction.
Obama continues to speak about his ability to inspire as his primary selling point, which is certainly a great quality.
However, Oprah, Dr. Phil and others inspire....but that doesn't mean they are equipt to be president.
Anybody who becomes too emotional over a relatively 'trivial subject', as Hilary did in the recent past , is UNFIT to be president of a nation, to handle 'tough presidential business.'
Bill Clinton is NOT RUNNING, consequently, he should not be giving speeches as he did on the day of the New Hamphire primary. Why does he do it? Does Hilary need a crutch?
I couldn't care less which one gets the most votes between Hillary and Obama.
BUT I DO CARE about America voting another Incompetent *(&^%$%^&&**
to the White House. As the domino effect will eventually hit me where I live.
Obama has blantantly announced he has no Organization or Management skills.
He blantantly announced that he feels a President only needs to project a direction for his Nation and then allow the his staff or who ever to do the work in getting it there! For a Man who so admires Martin Luther King, I would think he'd know you just don't have a dream and it magically appears completely intact before you ! Martin Luther King didn't just project he did the heavy lifting and construction work.
Do you honestly want to put your Nation, your family, your assets in this man's hands? If you answered yes, than I really hope his charm and words of inspiration will comfort you when America's economy slides into the abyss, when it's security diminshes to an all time low, when it's health care ceases to exist, and you can't find a job because America's industries are non existent.
I'm amazed that after enduring seven years with an inexperienced leader ruling your Nation, you would take experience so lightly.
I pray that Americans look at the big picture before election day and put their party and candidate favourtisms aside and elect a Leader based on qualifications, experience, and humanity.
Oh Boy, Obama blew it last night. He was not prepared at all. In my opinion, Clinton won last nights debate hands down. She was well prepared, knowledgable and articulate in her responses. Obama on the other hand, was stuttering, what seemed to me as groping for answers and not as articulate. When he said his desk was a mess (disorganized) and that he lost papers 2 seconds after someone gave them to him, cost him big time. I'm sorry, but I do not want a President who looses papers if not given to him 2 seconds before he is to read them. Or someone else running our government for him. What's the sense of electing him, if other people are going to do the job.
But here we are again, with Clinton making a TRUE statement about what Obama, himself, said in front of thousands of people and the Obama supporters or campaign staff, or writers on this blog saying she's attacking Obama? If you are not part of Obama's staff then you deserve what you get. People are not deaf...we heard it. He said it. She is not attacking him, but pointing out what he said. Once again the media is putting a spin on a non issue.
This is how we are going to let our government be run? If so, I think we will be back here in 4 years talking about Obama like we talk about Bush. Mark my words.
I'm sorry but I read these posts and I have to say. I can't believe most of you are Democrats. YOU CAN'T BE. Talk about straight out of the Republican "playbook".
ANY BODY BUT HILLARY? Since when did Democrats start hating Hillary? If you
post at least have the "courage" to "declare" and not act like you are a Democrat
in this discussion. We have a fine field, which Republicans are scared to death of.
Each has their good points. OUR job is to determine who can take the White house back. In attempting to make up your mind forget Republican rhetoric. Like
Hillary's "Negative" rating. Or "she is a polarizing" person. Or other such nonsense! These statements came from non other than Carl Rove! Who has been kicking Dems butts for years. We keep falling for the same thing. Kerry distanced himself from Bill Clinton, because of what Rove said about him. Gore
had it made. But NO he wanted to be his own man. How did that work out for him?
Republicans HATE the Clintons not for anything other THAN: THEY HAVE NEVER EVER BEAT THEM. If you were in their shoes wouldn'y you want "ANY BODY BUT HILLARY? When Hillary tried to get universal health care the Republicans
used their usual scare tactics "socialized medicine". AT LEAST SHE TRIED! And
lets put to sleep this notion. Elect Hillary and you get Bill. YOU BETTER PRAY WE DO! We tried "dumb"! How's that working for you??????? Let's try SMART! We can't afford NOT to........
Think about it. We just got through 7 of the worst years in recent memory with a so-called hands-on, executive who tried to run the government just like ta corporartion. Obama is obviously organized enough to be responsible for one of the most creative, imaginative, and precise campaign organizations in modern American politics.
What we don't need at this time is another micro-managing geek who can't see the forest through the trees-like Bush or say....Hillary.
SHUT UP Clinton... She needs to lose the next few caucases so she can get the message. How dare she tell me what's best for me. I KNOW it's not her. We need Obama in there, otherwise I'm going REPUBLICAN. I'll even vote for BUSH if I have to if it's between him and her. Guliani is a loser. He needs to fix that lisp and change his take on the world before he makes something of himself. Fat chance in hell.
GO OBAMA...
All Barack Obama has done is organize over 600,000 new donors to boost him past a political machine that has was built over the last 15 years. We've stayed on message (mostly) with good guidance from our leader, and built a grass-roots level campaign that has stunned the establishment candidate.
All in less than 11 months.
That's what Obama has done. That's leadership, not micromanagement.
Give it a rest people, we all know Hillary will be President in November
Since she is now declaring that she is Hands on Hillary, then why the hell has her campaign staff been out of control, and why has she had to keep dumping key staff for various malpractices!.
How come Hands On Hillary did not get her hands on her own campaign staff, and control them!.
No more of The Hands on Clintons. They were so hands on, the last time, that they handed the House and Senate to The Republicans, after forty years under the Democrats. Now the Democrats are just getting it back, so keep the Clintons hands away from the party. They will just hand it over to the Republicans once more, and this time it will be for good, because the Supreme Court will be made into a rubber stamp for the Right Wing.
No more Hands on Clintons.
So, how much is Obama's campaign paying all of you Clinton haters to post to the CNN blog?
So Bush was a CEO president because he said that was how he would govern? Perhaps, but he was a terrible CEO. He was ideologically inflexible, hired cronies as opposed to the most qualified people and refused to change when events overcame his pre-conceived notions. He did have the "make as much money for the shareholders" down if you compare shareholders to the corporate interests lobbyists represent.
Compare that to a quality CEO such as Warren Buffett. I think Obama compares well to someone like Buffet. He communicates a vision, inspires people, has shown a willingness to hire and engage with the best people, and has an honest self-appraisal that shows sound judgement.
So are we going to throw out a bad CEO and replace him with what would appear to be a quality one, or are we going to hire a micro-manager instead?
Hilary's answer is like that of a young college graduate interviewing for her first job with pressure and anxiety. LOL.
Anybody who remotely thinks Obama is inexperience needs to read the new Time Mag. Aarticle. His experience is wide and deep on the level of the street and in the halls of goevernment. It is just different than Hillary's. This is priceless material to read because it flies in the face of the accepted wisdom on what a candidate for President is supposed to be.
This is the article reprinted here, but you can find on the Time Mag. link here at CNN
(SPRINGFIELD, Ill.) — By some measures, Barack Obama has a thin record. He's a Senate newcomer who has never worked in the White House, governed a state or run a business.
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Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.
Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
The Illinois Democrat likes to quote something Bill Clinton once said: "The truth is, you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Mine is rooted in the real lives of real people, and it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."
After college, Obama moved to Chicago for a low-paying job as a community organizer. He worked with poor families on the South Side to get improvements in public housing, particularly the removal of asbestos.
"Nobody else running for president has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help people," said Jerry Kellman, who first hired Obama as a community organizer.
Obama also fought for student summer jobs and a program to keep at-risk children from dropping out of school. More importantly, say those who worked with Obama, he showed people how to organize and confront powerful interests.
"He had to train residents to stand up for their own rights," said former organizer Loretta Augustine-Herron, who was part of Obama's Developing Communities Project.
Obama left that job to get a law degree. Afterward, he returned to Chicago and ran Project VOTE. The organization recruited hundreds of registrars to sign up new voters, particularly within the city's black population. Registration jumped nearly 15 points between the 1992 primary and the general election.
The registration wave was credited with making Carol Moseley Braun the first black female senator and helping Bill Clinton carry Illinois in his first presidential race. It also got insiders talking about Obama as a political candidate.
Obama then spent several years focusing on the law, both as an attorney at a small firm specializing in civil rights and as a lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago.
As an attorney, he was on the team that successfully sued the state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law. Obama also worked on case of a whistle-blower who lost her job after exposing waste and corruption in a medical research project. The whistle-blower ended up with a $5 million settlement.
Obama was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, when Democrats were in the minority. He proposed hundreds of new laws, including universal health care, tougher gun control and expanded welfare, but saw most of them spiked by Republican leadership.
He did have some successes, though — particularly in passing legislation sharply restricting the gifts that Illinois politicians could accept from lobbyists. Illinois has notoriously weak government ethics laws, and the Gift Ban Act was the first major new restriction since the Watergate era.
Obama also helped set up Illinois' "KidCare" program that provided health care to children in families that did not qualify for Medicaid.
John Bouman, president of the Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law, said Obama's work helped make the program more consumer-friendly. He also said Obama was often willing to give up credit for the legislation if that helped win Republican support.
"It tells you something that as a relatively junior member in the minority party, he was an important negotiator," Bouman said.
When Democrats gained a majority in the Senate, Obama's political mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, gave him high-profile assignments, including two contentious issues involving police — videotaped interrogations and racial profiling.
Police weren't happy about recording their interrogations of murder suspects or having to study racial bias in traffic stops. Initially, they opposed both pieces of legislation.
But Obama made clear that something was going to pass with or without their support. Ultimately, police groups endorsed both bills and they won unanimous approval in the Senate.
Obama was generally regarded as an effective and practical, although decidedly liberal, state lawmaker. One of his Republican colleagues was so wowed that he has appeared in an Obama campaign ad, but others aren't impressed by his legislative record.
"I would say it was run of the mill, honestly," said Sen. Christine Radogno, R-Lemont, who entered the legislature at the same time Obama did.
Obama was a part-time state senator in that he served in the Illinois legislature at the same time he practiced law. He became a state lawmaker in 1997, four years ahead of Hillary Clinton's entrance into elected office, as U.S. senator.
When Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he said he wished to get things done rather than grab headlines, and cited Hillary Clinton as the sort of workhorse he wanted to be.
He teamed with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to study the dangers of nuclear proliferation and pass legislation meant to keep nuclear material from falling into the hands of terrorists.
Obama also joined with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., after Hurricane Katrina to improve oversight of federal spending.
And he shared billing with a Republican presidential hopeful when he joined Arizona Sen. John McCain in sponsoring legislation that called for sharp, mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. The effort failed.
I laughed out loud when he made that statment.. If Hillary had made that statment it would be on every headline in America.. That's why I'm voting for her..Obama is ok. But he's not ready..
As and african American male it still puzzle me on how my people have lost track of one of our biggest support base ever. If Obama wasn't running for President. Every Black talk show and radio personality would be running over each other to get hillary on their show.. Now that a black man is running, they want to throw her aside just because he's black. If you asked most of them what Obama's positions are on anything, they wouldn't know. I have been called "UNCLE TOM' DE NEGRO and almost every name you can think of because I'm supporting Hillary.. This is real Racism..
I think CNN is purposely trying to intimidate people by bringing these non-issues. When Obama and Hillary are basically on the same page on their policies, there has to be some distiction in their working styles. What is wrong if Hillary points out that difference to the voters? Or, how would she present herself to the voter? "I am a woman, and he is an african-ameriacn" He has a vision, I have the same vision for america" How can a voter decide between the two? Especially the people who do not understand the details and depth of the policies, will just base their opinion on style or presentation, or the dreamy language. So, Hillary or anyone in her position has to draw the distinction of working styles between the two. Bush too had a great vision during his campaign and he left it to his advisors to implememt and look what happened?
We watch with great interest 'North of the border' the goings on of our friends and neighbors in the USA. This canuck watches CNN primary coverage like the Stanley Cup playoffs. Press on and deliver a Democrat to the White House in '08 as every candidate is speaking about something unlike their Republican counterparts who have no position or focus on the good people of America. You have an opportunity to participate in a great and historical election that will return the lustre to the now tarnished image of your powerful nation (thanks to W and his cronies!). Bill Clinton was an excellent President (this guy even got into a scrap in Daytona beach while on a student holiday in college several years ago cause I wore a Clinton and Gore t-shirt to the bar one night that my folks had brought home from an earlier trip over there), but Hillary is no Bill (although a strong and intelligent lawmaker and advocate!)
It's a shame that some Americans are not able to see through Clinton's political showmanship last night and today. She is all about disinformation.
Some of us love to complain about our country's politics. The same old tired rhetoric about how the system is all corrupt and the politicians are cut from the same mold. But when a certifiably new candidate stand up in the Senate and in his campaign for change, some of you can not deal with the paradigm shift.
Barack Obama epitomizes substance and inspiration (in that order). Are we not overdue, in our beloved country, for convictions that are evident and actions that raise aspirations.
Sounds like she wants to be a Jimmy Carter, who bless his heart (he has a very good one) couldn't get out of his way because he was so involved with detail.
We need someone who is between a Jimmy Carter and a George Bush. We do not need you Hillary.
2001 and 2005
Edwards and Clinton Voted for the Bush's new bankruptcy bill. HRC went right past that answer. She never answered it, and no one is writing on it. Which is a mistake. It was asked at the beginning of the debate. The Iraq war we know who voted for what. The stimulus plan between Clinton and Obama are similar. The nuclear energy plan, we know who voted for what on this issue. At least Obama answers the questions as to why he voted the way he did, even if it's not favorable. Clinton can't even give an answer on her weaknesses. Obama may need to have someon hand him paperwork 2 secs before it's needed so he can read it, but at least he READS IT. NEI report, HRC didn't read it and it's actions like that which are costing us 1-2 billion a month for a war that's not legit. Experience huh? I hear a lot of you talking about Bill Clinton, he is done. Last night we heard about them being on a united front by HRC– she is right back to the politics today!!! United States of America people. United--who has done the uniting in this campaign???? Experience is good, new ways of doing things better is great!!
So hillary sees the United States as her company?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Well, find that little peice of paper and hold on to it. In the meantime Obama will be providing the RIGHT leadership to move our country forward.
She pegged it correctly! Now matter how you look at the office of The President of the United States, we cannot just have a "vision czar" as Commander in Chief. The title should tell you right there. A Commander isn't a "vision" person. They are the person that makes the plans, and then acts on them. And if someone isn't doing what they are supposed to be doing, he gets on them quick.
George Bush is an example of a "vision" president. He hasn't done a thing for us. He lets his minions run amok in his name and doesn't hold them accountable. We don't need that style of a president! We need someone to take the reins of this powerful country and lead for a change!
Telling it like I see it,
Wynter
I'm an undecided voter, but Hillary is making a very good point here. If you're going to run government like a business, you have to have both the vision and the strategies to achieve it. I'm increasingly less inspired by Barack's emphasis on "bringing people together" and "creating hope." The best way to achieve harmony and give hope is to have a government that runs effectively.
Here's a scenario of Obama in office:
"Here's my vision of where the country needs to go. Blah blah blah...Get rid of bureaucracy...unite..blah blah"
Cabinet advisors:
"So what exactly do we need to do?"
Obama:
"My job is to inspire the American people, because no one can do it better than I can. I set the vision. You figure out how to make it happen."
Cabinet advisors thinking:
"Ooh...I see power and money coming our way, since Mr. President will probably never remember to ask for accountability. Oooh..."
Let's be realistic here. This may very well be what happens if Obama becomes president.
And Mr. Obama, you are wrong about what you said:
"I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can.."
Hillary's actions inspire me more than your words will ever do. In fact, I almost fell asleep reading your NH "concession speech."
Talk about arrogance.
We really need to look at their management styles. Because if you look at Bush's management record before he got into office he had a record of bankrupting an oil corporation while he was CEO. And when he got into office what happened? He bankrupted our country! Seems to me it matters a WHOLE HELLUVA LOT!
Seems like no one cares about the republicians, I wish Bush could run a third term, I wish people would stop always bashing the president, if u are american u think u would be proud of the people that run it.
I think both Clinton and Obama would make great Presidents. Who ever gets the nod they should make the other their V.P
It is very obvious that Hillary is not so real.. she´ll say anything and do anything (even CRY!!!) just to get people to vote for her. I hope that Americans can see the other side of this woman and make a good choice that will bring the change that America needs and restore its GLORY.
Hillary had the opportunity to tell the American People was her strenghts and weaknesses were instead of focusing on Obama..
She starts things that the media will have a play day with and then when it hits the cealing, she dumps it on Obama and blames him for the whole mess..
Take responsibility Hillary ...
We are all not perfect and we , I am talking every single one of us in this world have strenght and weaknesses..and and you think you don't ...you are lying to your self ...
I think Hillary is afraid to tell the American people more about her self because she is insecure...
Its ok Hillary, you are human too..remember the tears, you had an opportunity to opened up yourself more to the American people but you miss the bus...
All change in America starts with ordinary people. Not only is the current administration corrupt and deceptive but it works to arrange politics to resist change. Hillary Clinton is a part of this politics of resistance. The only experience she represents is the roadblocks to meaningful change; the politics of taking turns; the quest to regain power; the resumption of old alliances. All to the exclusion of ordinary people taking back the government.
Mr. Obama, if you or your staff is reading this, I hope you can INSPIRE your supporters with your HOPE, that if you don't get the nomination, they should vote Democrat in the general election. I have not seen many, if any, Clinton supporters threatening to vote republican if she isn't nominated. I've read many admit to vote for the democratic nominee. Interesting that the followers of a presidential candidate whose campaign slogan is to UNITE, are the ones dividing the party.
At this eleventh hour! Critics doesn't help America to go forward! If one person speaks his weakness, we should not critizise him for his flaw. If we use that as an advantage, it shows how we are in need of his place (Greedily!).
As a result, last night I completely switch from Hillary to Obama. Because, she is too eager to the white house again. Until now, I thought she was fighting to change the coming crises (What not.....Gas price, Mortgage crises, health care, education ...) in United States of America; However, she is running for making history- First woman President of America!
We are suffering a lot at this moment, we need fundamental change. We need a leader not a manager, we need a commander who tell us what we need to hear not what tries to speak about three decade years of experience.
Please America let's anticipate the future, let's have a common vision. Let's bring back our pride not ego. We are the greatest nation in the world.....so far (I doubt how long) ! At this defining moment we need a visionary leader.
Therefore, Barack Obama should be the next president of United States Of America.
LOL, I think Obama is brilliant. In one bizarre soundbite he has turned Hillary into a paper-pushing bureaucrat - and has cast himself in the role of CEO and Hillary as VP. In a lot of ways he diffused her experience argument at the same time. It is a risky proposition because not everyone sees it that way but I am willing to bet that as a whole he gained more than he lost.
I have always liked Hillary and will gladly support her if she is the Dem nominee (I have had enough of the republican self-serving, sorry) but more and more Obama is my first choice, and Hillary is ruining whatever affection I have had for her with her copy-cating and politics as usual.
Folks, we can sit here and talk about experience all day long. But the people we keep saying have this oh so valuable experience, who have been in Washington all these years have gotten none of these things done. Why in the world do you think all of us are on this board and so concerned about this election in the first place? Experience has gotten us a list of exclusions on healthcare policies with every disease you can name, a diminishing dollar, rising tuition costs, a country most working people can not afford to retire in if they can retire at all, outsourced jobs, an economy that has already hit rock bottom and started digging and a host of other problems. I agree, experience is necessary, but it means nothing without a positive vision on how you want to use it to help the masses. Strom Thurmond had 100 years of experience trying to keep this country stifled exactly where it is.
The other problem is this: every 4 years, these politician come here and say they are going to do something and we trust them to do it, and they never do. We need someone who can inspire the American people to GET INVOLVED WITH OUR GOVERNMENT. These officials are supposed to be representative of us, and because we don't spend enough time getting involved and making sure they do what they are supposed to, yeah, they manage us out of everything we work hard for. If we want this country back, we are going to have to stop hiding behind political parties, gender, race, and some of our views and start thinking about what's good for everybody. I am sick and tired of divsive politics that distract us from getting things done. I do not want a machine in the White House; I want a human being who has been out there with the people making things happen, and understands folks day to day struggles. I am all for Obama as president because there is nothing wrong with dreaming and inspiring. That is how we all make our goals.
I am an African-American women. People think that I should vote for Obama because he is black. However, that is wrong, I should vote for the individual based on their qualification, and not based on the color of their skin.
I watch the presidential debate and I enjoyed it. It is really sad that we have so much negativity, spitefulness, and hatelfulness that is being writen about the canidates, in particular Senator Clinton. Many people are saying things without any real facts.
Senator Clinton has every right to attack the other canidates on their experience and show why she is more qualified. As well as, Senator Obama and Edwards could do the same. She should not be portrayed as being negative and nor should Obama or Edwards.
People should give credit were credit is due. I was very well tooned into that debate and Senator Clinton was awesome. She was fantastic and she knows the issues and understand it very well. I am sorry, Obama and Edwards do not know the substances of issues. Senator Clinton is very articulate. She is good and I am proud to say it.
I will cast my vote to SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON!!!
I am 65 yrs of age and have refused to vote for many years...having lived in California and realizing that my vote did not count.. I am now a resident of Nevada and am going to go to my first causus this Saturday. I am enthused about being able to make a difference. I CAN GUARANTEE that I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR A FEMALE THAT THINKS SHE IS ALL THAT.... There are many wonderful women out there who realize that they have intelligence, wit, common sense and a powerful drive to become whatever they set their sights on. BUT THEY DO NOT CONTINUOUSLY BRAG ABOUT IT. They just get to work and get the job done.
I will be registering either Independant or Democratic and my candidate of choice was originally Thompson, but he has not stepped up to the plate on the big picture, so my vote will go to Barack Obama.
GO BARACK in 2008 !!!!
Palo Alto,
He has other people write his speakes for him to read. In a debate he has to speak for himself, no one is there to speak for him or write his answers for him.
That's when you notice a real difference between the candidates. I'm glad other people are noticing this as well.
Come on people read the TIME article about Obama's record. He ACTUALLY has more experience than Hillary. How does being the first lady count as experience? I will not vote for Hillary just because she is a woman and I will not vote for Obama just because he is a minority.
I will vote for Obama because he as the experience and he has what this country needed YESTERDAY!
I am extremely impresssed byt he comments on what Obama did in the community.. VERY IMpressed that left out is the drugs done while in the community.
Let's ellect a president that going in has already broken the law. What's next ellect one while serving time!
I actually like that comment by Obama because a famous Democrat FDR ran his government a similiar way. He put other people who were smarter than he was in charge of different areas like education, the economoy, etc, and then told them what he wanted done and they figured out the little details of how to get it done. It was a little thing called the Brain Trust, but that is the best way to run a government in my mind.
Does anyone care about issues anymore? I really couldn't care less about all this personality nonsense. Focus on the reality of which candidate has the best policies. That's what really matters. The media causes us to have these ridiculous discussions about who is "likeable." Are you really going to invite Clinton, Obama or Edwards to dinner? Use your intelligence, not your emotions. Go to the websites of these candidates. Read their statements. Then figure out who has the best policies for your situation.
MESSAGE TO HILLARY: Hillary you're starting to look and sound like a pathetic and desperate shrew. It is not necessary to make an issue out of every other sentence Obama utters. Stop using every opportunity and latching-on to nearly every word out of Obama's mouth, to find some way to use his words to bash him to make yourself look better. Stick to the issues Hillary and stop the bashing. Stop it now!
I am surprised Hillary hasn't hired a pack of paparazzi to follow Obama around so she can work her political magic on his every utterance! Come on Hillary, don't you have anything left to dazzle us with about your own campaign/product? Every time you take a swing at Obama, it just shows us that you are desperate and clinging onto every irrelevant thing you come across. Stop disrespecting US with these tactics.
When I think about the leaders of companies I have worked for, they are all about company vision, sharing that vision and inspiring their team to work hard and get things done. Pushing the buttons and operating the levers is not the role of an effective CEO or President.
I bet Hillary lies awake every night wondering why she is even in a battle with Obama. The fact that a black man with a funny name and less experience can compete with this supposed political powerhouse proves that he is indeed, a very special person.
Rock on OBAMA...!!!
I think Hillary needs to take off the gloves and call Barack to task more. As a voter who is absolutely sick and tired of 8 years of presidential incompetence, the last thing I want is to see Barack become President and have to deal with 8 more... not to mention tarnishing of the reputation of the democratic party. The republicans look weak in the wake of the Bush administration. We need to sieze this opportunity to put a QUALIFIED person in the whitehouse. Barack is immature and underqualified. Voters are clearly blinded by the race and gender element of this campaign season and it is really sad to see that people are not sharp enough to look past such superficial qualities in order to act in their own best interest. Nobody can possibly think that we are not going to get an extremely strong and effective leader in Hillary Clinton. At most we are rolling the dice with Obama. Barack has been playing dirty, pathetic games in this campaign which I think is the only reason he has had as much success as he has had. I think Hillary has come to a point where she needs to start drawing attention to Barack's massive flaws. I applaud her devotion to running a clean campaign, but we cannot let this unqualified, smarmy individual run our country!!! Barack will be the democrat's "W."
I watched the MSNBC debate and, the fact that Barack was on the right side of the 3 items of legislation the moderators brought up is something that should be expounded upon.
The Clinton campaign have bought up the issue of Barack Obama's experience yet with her experience several times during the debate she had to say that she wished she had not voted a particular way on legislation.
I want a president that is going to get it right the 1st time!
Steven–
The Warrior
Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes
Also, Palo I like the OOO's and AHHH's during debates because it means Obama is actually THINKING about the question and not just giving a rehearsed response. It's real and he means what he says, which I think is a lot better than what you get with the other 99% of political candidates.
Tom Davie,
Not enough. Please explain Hillary's 35 years of experience please.
Just being "privvy to how the White House works" doesn't cut it my friend.
As a person who recruited for my employer, one of the largest companies in the world, for several years, I have the following question after listening to Obama's weakness:
Is he interviewing for the right job?
There is obviously a gap between what the job requires and what the candidate can offer.
I like how CNN is swaying the sheep's opinion again...or trying to...I HOPE AMERICANS ARE MUCH SMARTER THAN THAT!!
CNN would like you to believe that Clinton is in trouble by the numbers of the Michigan race....unfortunately most voters were disenfranchised so they didn't vote....WHO BLAMES THEM THEIR VOTES WEREN'T GOING TO COUNT ANYWAY!! But they point to the large number of African American's who voted UNCOMMITTED as proof that Clinton is in trouble with the African American community....This vote DOESN'T COUNT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER (I.E. CLINTON WIN, OR UNCOMMITED VOTE)!! People didn't vote the way they would had if their votes counted!!
Also it does not say "WHITES CHOOSE CLINTON OVER UNCOMMITED"....look at the numbers please...the exit poll clearly shows out of the 997 people questioned 73% were white, and 23% were African American....while the 23% went 68% Uncommitted, 30% Clinton....THE WHITE VOTES WENT 63% CLINTON, 31% UNCOMMITED....so what do we have from this the African American community went for Uncommitted (split between Edwards and Obama, probably favoring Obama since he is ahead of Edwards)...so what was it 50% Obama to 30% Clinton...when the White community went 63% Clinton (ALONE) and 31% Uncommitted (between Edwards and Obama again)......DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN THAT OBAMA HAS A PROBLEM IN THE WHITE COMMUNITY???? NO!! IT MEANS THIS VOTE REALLY DIDN'T COUNT, AND NOTHING SCIENTIFIC CAN BE DETERMINED FROM IT...JUST A BUNCH OF SPECULATION!!
By the way I am sorry for the fact Michigan will not have their voices heard on who the Democratic nominee will be, but maybe more people should have not let the state decided for them! I know easy to say when I live in Iowa, but I am hoping for a national/regional primary season in 2012!!!
I find it funny that a COO (Chief Operating Officer) reports to the CEO (Chief Executive Officer). The CEO (President of the US) is in charge of the big picture, and can see the difference between the forest and the trees. The COO is more hands on with the minute details. If we had a President that was worried about every tiny detail, the President would never get anything done.
I think the analogy could have been a bit clearer because not everyone understands the corporate lingo or the corporate ladder, but the analogy was dead on.
OBAMA 08!! I want a CEO and not a COO! Leadership skills are far superior to taking on the bureaucracy. Lead those who follow, and they will take on the bureaucracy for you!
CNN and it's anti-Hillary worded articles again. Compared to Hillary, Obama is really nothing except for a good speaker. Seriously, read his stance on various issues and you'll find out that they lack depth and perception. I know this having studied political issues for years. Hillary is the best person for the job: Stop attacking Hillary with baseless arguments and give her a chance and you'll find out that this woman is very smart and definitely fit to be president.
Hillary,I do respect you alot, burt you are becoming too petty for noyhing,attend to your real issues which will make you elected, any time you open your mouth to attack Obama you loose five votes to Obama. Do remember your christmass AD, did you see how much you were disorganised with issues until you almost misplaced one. Be organised yourself.
I am disappointed in hillary, baseless attacks and assaults upon his campaign are doing nothing but hurting her own campaign. This shows what typical politician hillary is.
The opposite of experience is inexperience, not change. I think Hillary won the debate last night. Barack seemed hesitant at times and unsure of himself. I know, debates are not Barack's strength. He is much better in front of a crowd. However, much of the work of diplomacy and reaching across the aisle is up close and personal. He will improve but please, not on the job as president. I like them both but –
Hillary 08
Everyone, please read the TIME article "Obama's Varied Record" before believing the Clinton campaign declarations about his experience.
Obama doesn't need to be a micro-manager. You ever had a micro-manager boss? Worst thing ever. I think this would be applicable on a national level too – He has incredible intelligence and a strong instinct for picking the right advisers, and a vision for what America should be. Those are leadership skills and far more important than a tit for tat management style sorting through paper after paper.
"Clinton/Obama 08
after 8 years as VP Obama will be ready"
Well said my friend! You took the words out of my mouth!
T .......who is attacking?
I wish Edward win in South Carolina and Obama in second place and Clinton in third place so that Americans see how messy the primary election it is and this
We need a leader who foresee things, not just look at things.
Obama for president.
She just confirm what i already think of her. She will bring america nowhere. She doesn't have the presidency genes. She may work in the CIA where they need bouli.
We need a statesman in the white house not bureacrat managers or president apprentice.
I am honstly just getting completely sick of the bashings comming from Hillary. I certainly don't think she is a bad person, but this has GOT TO STOP! I don't care if Obama is messy or not because that it why the president will have a bunch of people working for him.
I hate it when all CNN and the other news sites only report the fights going on between those two. That's NOT THE ISSUE!
I personnally support Obama, but if it HAS to come to it then I will definately vote for Hillary in November. I just wish they would get back to the real issues!
Obama '08
What, please tell me, has Hillary ever run? A senate office? Well, Barack has done that too. Oh...maybe she means her failed attempt at health care reform. Mmmmm...seems to me she blew that one. Let's see, her marriage? Nope, blew that one too. Or maybe not. All this talk about "experience" completely misses the point. We need a leader, not a chief bureaucrat. Obama has the kind of experience we really need. The kind that knows about paying bills when money is thin. The kind that knows being honest and truthful are the qualities every president should have.
T, I agree with you. I went to college with Barry (Barack) he was self-serving and arrogant then – as I believe he is now.
Somehow I would feel a bit uneasy with someone as president that only knows how to inspire people. There needs to be some decision making and some hands on. Pretty words don't cut the mustard
"Management is doing things right; LEADERSHIP is doing the RIGHT things."-Peter F. Drucker.
With this said, Hillary has not shown Leadership with the opportunity of her votes .
Obama has shown Leadership, he takes the information provided to him and makes a decision NOT based on WHAT and HOW it will affect his candidacy as a Senator or Presidential Candidate, but what and how it will effect the American People.
This is the choice, each and everyone of us needs to SERIOUSLY think about.
Let's talk about the decisions they made when NO ONE was running for the office.
Here we go again. Instead of focusing on a real issue, we are caught up in a comment that really didn't have anything to do with the issues.
I'm more than a little surprised that this has become the issue after the debate. Seriously, isn't there something more important to discuss?
The coverage, and the direction it takes the debate, gets worse all the time.
Well Hillary made a good point... a president do need to be "hands on"...
Obama said the job of a president is to set a vision of 'here's where the bureaucracy needs to go... (directly quoted from this ticker)... Well a vision is just that, a vision unless actions are taken. Somebody has to run the so called vision and if its not the president, who will? The politicians? His secretary who holds all his paperwork till the last second when he needs it?? I wonder how will he handle it once confidential documents, pages of pages of bills coming through his table... As to what he said, he probably give it to someone to hold till the last second to read them...
Btw, this is probably one of the few attacks on Obama, that Hillary made... Do you all pro-Obama-ers realized how many attacks he made against Hillary? Plus the tag-team attacks with Edwards? But you guys didn't complain then... Now Hillary on the attack, and you guys have the guts to even say "there she goes again", "owhh she's so desperate","stop the negativity Hillary" etc etc... So for one thing, we Hillary supporters do not need to wake up and see who being negative most of the time... U guys are the ones who need to wake up and see the attacks Obama and Edwards made against her, the posts and the bashing of Hillary in CNN...
How PATHETIC!!!! Hillary is really scared of Senator Obama! That's just wonderful! She's making such a fool of herself attacking him every moment of the day. I guess the "I have 35 years of experience" rhetoric is running thin. I am so glad I don't support her. She is truly and embarassment to the Democratic party. And, as far as CNN is concerned, they're only reporting what that whining, non presidential ego manic is putting out. I, personally, have no respect for Hillary. She stayed with Bill Clinton only because of her love of politics and ambitions of being a president.
OBAMA O8 .....a true candidate for America!!!!!!!
JT Denver,
You are right! I am a fellow PHD holder, and I never thought having an organized schedule/environment made me not focus on the important issues. I think it is really sad that someone would think of themselves so involved with the clouds that cannot manage to find his/her important documents. I don't think I am ready for another 4-8 years of laisse faire. Some responsibility people plz!
Way to go Hillary. I am sooooooooooo tired of Obama's substance-less sermons. This is all we need, another unorganized bumbling idiot (Bush).
GO HILLARY!!!!
Oh !!!! No !!!!
Mr Obama is placing himself in the pat where good Manager dosn't belong.
On the top of everything, he is running for the very responsible position and he is admitting that he need others to help him in organizing his desk tasks.
He discredited himself as a person with good organizational skillls.
That is not good point !!!!! on any resume !!!!!!
He need to grow, he is not ready or will never be ready!!!!!
Vote for Hillary Clinton !!!!!!!
Hillary is the "new" Britney Spears.
Everytime you think she might go steady she goes back off track and attacks. Maybe someone can carry her away on a cart too. This is getting pretty sad. How about talking about yourself and the country intead of all the negative, all the time. Real tired of the negative from you and your husband!
Are there any independents left who will vote for her now? I'm curious because all the ones I know and have heard from are quickly turning away from her-even if they WERE seriously thinking considering her.
I saw the debate and was impressed that Obama answered the question honestly. He really put himself out there and I was pleased to see that in a candidate. Hillary is grasping at straws, anything she can to win. I thought it interesting when the journalist questioned her on the use of fear as a political tactic that she had criticized George Bush for his use of fear but then on the eve of the New Hampshire primary used it for her campaign. She actually stood by her contradiction!
Initially I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, ran out and bought her book Living History when it first came out and was so excited about her candidacy and then she began her campaign and it has been one screw up after the next.
Nobody’s second place finish in Michigan
On Tuesday, With no other major candidates names on the ballot, Hillary Clinton was able to get 55% of the vote in the Michigan Democratic primary, but the real story on Wednesday should be the 225,506 + who left their house and went down to their precinct, knowing their state had been striped of its delegates, and voted uncommitted.
When “nobody” runs against her, “nobody” starts with 40%. And “nobody” didn’t even have to campaign. “Nobody” spent no money in this race. “Nobody” didn’t even run one add. What happens when you add John McCain or Rudy Giuliani in place of “nobody”?
As democrats we have to think long and hard about nominating a candidate who is so divisive. We shouldn’t spend these preciously important years ahead re-fighting old fights or addressing political grudges. If we are what we say we are than we must love our country more than this, and choose a leader who can bring Americans together. Our society’s needs are too great, the time to pivotal, for anything but fundamental change backed by broad-based support from the American people. Senator Obama proved in Iowa he can do this, and nobody proved it on Tuesday.
Helloooo! Do we know any president who does not like details or does not read his intelligence report??
After reading most of the blogs here, I'm convinced that:
1) Those who profess raw hatred for Hillary Clinton are men who would not support ANY woman as president.
2) Obama defined his REAL personality with his having one of his staff members to always hand him a paper two minutes before he needs it. Where is his head before that 2-minute deadline?
3) Bloggers believe 100 percent that Hillary the candidate has not the right to express her views on behalf of her candidacy. If she doesn't - who the heck would?
4) Most of the bloggers haven't a clue as to the greatness of Bill Clinton as president, or that it is NOT Bill Clinton who is running.
5) They have not been paying attention to what George W. Bush has been doing to the country over the last eight years. Otherwise, they would cherish the word EXPERIENCE.
I would, at this time in his and my lives, never support Obama for President, but nothing could make me slam him with such hatred and awful remarks as some do to Hillary. I happen to feel empathy, admiration and fondness for Barak Obama, and hope if he does not win his candidacy that he will continue to serve our country. For now, though, Hillary Clinton needs her turn, and we need her.
Al, Los Angeles, CA
In response to your question, "Obama's biggest fault is not calling her on her so called experience."
Maybe because she can back up her experience.. Check it out for yourself at clinton.senate.gov
The information there might surprise you.
When is the Illinois primary? Don't think Obama will win there, not with his record of promising the Illinois voters that he would not run for president and that he's complete his term as Senator. Also, Ilinois voters not happy with his "Present" vote and not much else.
I'm an Obama supporter, but I think Hillary scored big when she asked the junior Senator from Illinois to co-sponsor a bill that could potentially tie Bush's hands on Iraq. That was very smart and I believe a calculated move that she could perhaps benefit from. All said, that's whats wrong with most politicians. Enough is enough, its time for the change in Washington that the junior Senator from Illinois is proposing. Vice President Clinton sounds better than President Clinton.
Hillary, why don't you leave the man alone. Is Billy Boy not enough for you? I actions show how power hungry and power drunk the Clintons are. If just sleeping and living in the white how gives you experience over a public servant, wow the next we know Chelsea is running for president, saying she has the experience.
Are you kids serious? Bush had his cronies accuse Macain of being a traitor for staying in a POW camp, and they tried to trash him for having a black baby. He accused John Kerry of being a traitor and faking to get his purple heart. They have a record of calling war heroes traitors to our country, and what is it you decide makes a dirty campaign? His desk is messy.
This campaign has been extremely mild compared to anything I have seen in the past. Most of the attacks have been manufactured by the media. Bill attacks the media for not fact checking Obamas record. Media interpretation? He is obviously attacking Obama for being black. This is just a case of the media getting so bord they are willing to turn ANYTHING into the next great scandal.
I like Hillary and Barrack. But, I am completely sick of the media trying to manufacture scandal. And, I am sick of all these people buying into what is clearly a load of crap. You made up your oppinions well before this comment. You are just looking for anything to grab onto, so you can appear angry to try and sway others emotions. Being a micro manager and someone who won't lose everything in a messy pile on yout desk are completely different things. She is not saying he needs to be a micro manager. She is saying he needs to be more self organized instead of relying on others.
Give Obama some post-it notes and he would equal Hillary's management experience.
this is the reason we allways go backwards , obama is a do nothing said nothing he does not said how he is going to fix the problem then just change change , the furnitur from the white house , i bet if this obama wins he will be lost , and he will tell you i told it was up to the people not the goberment . does anyone here knows what he is goinbg to do , for , real estated, education terrrorist , oil , anything that is important to us , OBAMA HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING THEN JUST CHANGE , HOW STUPID HAVE WE BECOME HERE IN AMERICA.........
The position of the President of the United States of America requires an effective Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and not a detail oriented Chief Operating Officer (COO). There is a big difference. Past U.S. Presidents that conducted themselves as detail-focussed and control-obsessed chief operating officers usually were not reelected after the first term. Something to think about!!!
Clinton is confused about Obama's corporate metaphor.
There's a fundamental difference between the jobs of a CEO and a COO, and Obama was making an analogy to the responsibilities of a COO, not the "executive" CEO duties that Clinton was inappropriately trying to attack him on.
Maybe a corporate Republican like Romney could explain it to her.
Hillary, if you are such a details person, explain how your finger prints got on Vince Foster's files which were found in your First Lady offices after he "killed" himself. At the time you said something to the effect you didn't know how they got there. So much for details. You sicken me and you are a blight on the Democratic party.
I do not have anything against. Hillary Clinton, But for Hillary to become next the president, I guess is a bad idea, Means Bushes family and Clintons family dominate the office for the past 20yrs. All about Bushes and Clintons and I am just sick of it.
Hillary admitted on Tim Russert she didn't "read" the NIE report yet voted on the war – so to say she's a hands on style boss is a laugh.
On MSNBC fact check – hillary lied on Bush's Energy bill, and I'm no Bush supporter whatsoever. But after last night's debate I've concluded Hillary is verydangerous as heck. Her artful art of subtlety withf omitting, adding to, and taking away from facts makes me scared for her desie TO WIN by any means necessary.
Now she sides with the NV lawsuit for the caucauses – she's patheticm, and I was for her at 1st. but after each underhanded trick she uses to get into the WH the further I want her away from it.
Why does she feels she's ready for n terrosit attack the 1st day in office when she doesn't read pertinent info and make an awful decision that has cost $$ and more importantly lives?!!!
Obama stands for nothing!!!!! Change is just a word, you can find it in your pocket
Obama speaks out against voting injustice in his speechs
WHY IS HE PARTICIPATING IN STRIPING FLORIDA AND MICHIGANS OF THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHO SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT ?
Florida in 2000 was stolen by Bush (hillary spoke out about the injustice, Never heard from Obama) now he is particpating in ignoring us again.
He speaks about principle, well shouldnt he take a stand against this injustice?
Hillary is coming and doing a fundraiser (which is clearly NOT VIOLATING THE PACT, Obama has had 2 btw been to 1) at the expense of bad press in Nevada and SC and the national media, Why? because she care about our views. she comes down and listens.
Its an outrage that he is allowed to speak so passionatly about rights of americans when he is ignoring us because of a political move (so much for principle)
I challenge everybody on this blog to watch a Hillary speech on CSPAN (includes questions from the audience) and see HOW she plans to change this country. Notice Obama rarely will take a question, never any tough ones
Are you people serious! I think we know what happens when you have a president that delegates management to advisors. Have any of you people lived in the United States and paid attention for the past 7 years? This world needs to have the United States at the helm both bureaucratically as well as the moral authority! To suggest we choose a man simply by the fact he can speak well is both unwise and lazy. I am convinced the current citizens of the country are the most uncurious in history. Just because we yearn for change doesn't mean we act irrationally! That is the human response and we must be RESPONSIBLE citizens and realize that experience DOES matter. Knowledge of all facets of the government is requisite to not only management but also the ability to facilitate the CHANGE we all WANT! Think about where you work. Have any of you Obama supporters ever had a boss that had no idea how the company worked? If so, you see my point. EXPERIENCE DOES MATTER. Why are we overlooking this for emotion and impulsiveness? I plead that you Obama supporters educate yourselves and think outside the box of change and realize the mess that awaits the next president. Think. Think. think. If you want expertise and competent organized leadership in your president, I urge you to consider Hillary. If you would rather gamble on a great orator who makes you feel good, but has less experience than George W. Bush did in 2000, who admits to delegating authority and who admits being absent minded and disorganized, then vote Obama. I urge citizens to use their intellect and judgment, not human infallible emotion. Too much is at stake. Hillary may talk to lobbyists, you may dislike her personally, and she may not be the ideal candidate who totally embodies change. But she is our best hope for change on all the fronts that need change.
Whatever happened to common sense and CRITICAL THINKING skills? Last week, Hillary Clinton's comments were not taken at face value, but were taken out of context, dissected, scrutinized and over analyzed. After last night's debate, her comments regarding Senator Obama's response to his weakness were taken ONLY at face value and not understood, at least as I understood them. If Senator Clinton comes off too strong for some, she is accused of being robotic. If she shows a real reaction, she is accused of being a cry baby (I never thought of a break in your voice as being a cry baby myself) or a fake. According to so many perfect people in the media and online, the lady cannot do anything right. As my father used to say, "People hear what they want to hear, reason and common sense just get in the way."
I seriously doubt Mrs. Clinton raised the issue of management skills because she was concerned that Senator Obama couldn't keep his desk clean or loses a piece of paper. I am thinking maybe this opened the door to more discussion on a level a little more important. I really think some of the headlines are a little over the top when they call the discussion last night an "attack." This word is becoming so overused. Candidates do have the right to initiate discussion on issues, whether some consider them trivial or not, which could be relevant to choosing our future President. I don't understand why this is considered an "attack" on Senator Obama, when Senator Obama and Senator Edwards are not shy about pointing out what they consider important details concerning Senator Clinton.
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO INITIATE DIALOGUE CONCERNING ISSUES WHICH RELATE TO THE JOB OF PRESIDENT, THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS ARE FOR! By managing a household, raising children, paying bills, working full time, dealing with medical crisis, and numerous other jobs, I have learned the value of being able to multi task, and yes, organizational skills have been an important part of being able to accomplish what I have needed to accomplish. I would like to think that running our country involves even more than running a household, difficult as that has been at times. Senator Clinton has a legitimate right to open this up for discussion, as Senators Obama and Edwards have every right to discuss other issues which could relate to the Presidency. I wish everyone in the media, newspapers, and online could be a little less critical of all the candidates....they are all good people who believe they can do the best job. Let's let them have a real honest to goodness campaign discussing differences without making everything into an "attack". All of these people are someone's spouse, parent, and child when you think about it. (By the way, Karl Rove needs to get his own party in order before he starts tearing ours apart....at least we have 3 great candidates who ACTUALLY CARE about the middle class!) BEST OF LUCK TO SENATORS CLINTON, OBAMA, AND EDWARDS!
I am 21 years old. If Clinton wins, by the end of her first term roughly 90% of my life a Bush or a Clinton would have been running our country. Nearly a QUARTER CENTURY of contiguous American policy dictated by a Bush or a Clinton! This is embarrassing. At its core it's INBRED Politics!!!! America should not be operated as an aristocracy. How can Clinton promise change when she is the VERY thing we need change from?
We now have a reformed alcoholic in the white house and he doesn't need to be followed by a reformed crack head. Obama is the republican's dream candidate.
Beck
Hate mongers!
She always mentions that she has 35 years of experience? Where does she counting that 35 years from? Very arrogant and pathetic women who always bad mouths Obama. I watched couple of Dem. debates and was very pleased with the knowledge and leadership of Obama. I hope he becomes president and change the dynamics of US economy and foreign policy.
The Clinton campaign is pulling out all the tricks and spins in this Democratic race. I saw the debate on MSNBC and saw Obama's response to Tim Russert's question. The only word that came to my mind was "honesty". Obama truthfully answered all of the questions to the best of his knowledge. When someone asks you what your strengths and weaknesses are (and you are over 40) you should know? Hillary's answer about being "so intolerant" because I want to help people was total b.s. likewise with John Edwards's response about being too passionate in wanting to help people.
I've heard that John Edwards had the best debate performance but the candidate who came across as most human and believable was Obama.
Obama is what Amereican need regardless of how well organized he is or not. Every Administrater work together as a team. As he said "Bush always seem to be on time and never lost a paper" but how well did he do when it come to running the country? Answer that for yourself, afterall you can see whats going on with our economy right now. Obama is a honest man, he will not lie to please us with what some of us only want to hear. He will tell us all his faults so we will know what it is we are getting. H e is not a fake. He tell us just as it is. Vote Obama 08. GOOOOOOO OBAMA!!!!!
Say what!!!!
It would take a very neurotic person to micromanage the US government. In all your 35 years of experience??? you have yet to figure that out.
What would be the purpose of selecting CABINET HEADS, if your not going to allow them to do their jobs without breathing down their necks.
As President you have to have the confidence to trust your own judgement. If you appoint a designee to head a dept, will not TRUST them to run the office.
Sounds as if you have an issue with TRUST going on Hilliary, I WONDER WHY!!!!
yep, every single decision in the executive branch will be typed up, alphabetized, and filed by the president. After she talks to every official on every level of her administration every morning. Because she's going to micro-manage. I sure can't wait to vote for national secretary/do-everything person.
Hate to paraphrase bush, but the president really is a decision maker.. options are given, president chooses a course of action from the possibilities. It would be impossible to any one person to cover all the angles, collect and analyze data on every issue. This statement really makes me think two things:
1) she was even less involved in Bill's presidency than she pretends she was
2) If she was involved she's spinning the truth to try to "prove" she's more experienced – and that's dishonest.
Oh, and she agreed to a 'truce' to the smear campaigning like.. 2 days ago. HRC makes me physically ill. All of you Clinton supporters that talk about her platform and wonderful plans, etc. should think about one thing... what good is it if you can't trust her and she'll say anything to be in charge.
Barack OBama is clearly more intelligent than Hillary. The reason she is running such a negative campaign is because she knows he is more intelligent than her, more of a leader than her and more honest than her.
SHE KNOWS SHE CAN'T BEAT HIM.
I get really sick and tired of people saying that Barack doesn't address real issues and/or provide real plans. Of course his stump speech will not have every last detail of each of his plans for each of the issues – Its a stump speech. Look at his website and there is ample discussion of his plans for this country. The man is a natural born leader – Hillary is a politician.
Its funny – I think its safe to say we've always wanted a politician who is not a "politician" but rather a real person (one of us). Hillary's primary argument against Barack is that he lacks Washington experience, so he is not an experienced politician, right? Well, that's what we want, lol.
The guy sacrificed a career where he would have made millions to HELP PEOPLE EVERYDAY for NOTHING (on a relative basis). I dont think this gets spoken of enough, but thats what i want – a president that will sacrifice his/her own agenda for the betterment of others. His EXPERIENCE is ample and of far more value than the Washington experience Hillary only claims to have.
I have never voted in my life becuase i have always felt that my vote didnt matter (the underganded snakes in washington with the help of lobbyists where going to do what they were going to do anyways) This is th first time I will vote and I am voting because Barack Obama has inspired me to believe that I matter and can help the country. Millions of people are feeling that way ALREADY, because of Barack – HE HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO CHANGE THE COUNTRY. Look at how interested (whether you like or hate him) you are in him. Look at how interested Hillary is in him, lol. She cant say two words without Obama being one of them.
Anyway, I am ranting...Obama 08
Which way America,
Which way America,
Which way America,
Which way to go
The whole world is watching and...
I want to know,
Which way America is going to go
(Composer unknown)
In the end, it's all about America. It's not about a woman, and it's not about a race, it's about a leader for this country. Which candidate would be good for America? We get so caught up in petty politics–this will be a very long campaign if we continue fighting.
It's the war, it's the economy....so we need to stop bickering, and start looking at the issues so that we Americans can vote for the person of our choice. No one will ever convince me that they know who is best for me. I will make that decision, based on my research, and understanding of the candidates. So stop fighting, start thinking with your heads, and start listening to your hearts. Vote for the person who is best for you, and yes–our country.
If you don't we'll have four long years of bitterness. That can only mean more young men, and women dying overseas. Our soldiers are counting on us to work together. Wake up America, we can do better.
America 08
Yes...! Your'e right proud Florida, the former first Lady does seem to answer the tough questions. I gues when you plant people in the audience and have had several days to study answers, the tough questions become easy.
Obama or Edwards should be our next president.
Clinton is just another Bush on steroids , she is very DISHONEST and is a huge DIVIDER , that's why she doesn't stand a chance in the General Election.
Independents and Democrats will cross over and vote Republican to keep Clinton out of the White House.
Obama is really the only chance the Democrats have of going all the way.
Personally i see Obama's lack of experience and "Time in Washington" as a huge asset.
OBAMA 08
I don't have a prejudiced bone in my body, but after the last week I'm not sure this country could survive having a black president. What will happen if anyone says something racist?
I'm equally proud of every caucasion and person of color that worked for civil rights. Why are persons of color allowed to denigrate the caucasions who supported the cause and lost as much as the movement gained? Can they not be mentioned in the same sentence?
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to make a quick point, Obamas disorganization is a vital topic, specially to americans because that is the way he will treat our country. And what we really dont need is a disorginzed administration in the White House. Hillary is the best candidate simply because she has the most experience on Foreign Policy, in case everyone didnt notice, the US is directly involved in at least two wars. Do we really want to go any higher? Hillary understands the magnitude of the problem because she has been there before. And also she has the support of some of the most intelligent politicans in the US. Watch my words I said intelligent not "inspirational", what the US needs is someone who tells the people the truth not someone who can "inspire" people to vote for him. I give my unconditional support to Hillary Clinto, and hope she reaches the White House considering Obama is after her.
See You
Is it just me or does Hillary Clinton want power and presidency so bad, she is starting to look desperate in her repeated attempts to bring obama down.
This isn't an issue, this is an attack. Plain and simple.
To say that he can't handle details is wrong. He was the editor of the most prestisious law journal in the world. He also built his own campaign up in one year and now it is neck and neck with the most formidable, well-funded campaign in history. (A campaign that was built years ago by a former president) Those are pretty detailed, managerial type accomplishments to me...
Contrasts are important, but this is just another attack by Hillary and her Rovian campaign.
Clinton strategy at it's best. First they try to trash the man, once they saw people weren't diggin what she was saying, then she wants to "play nice"...then...bamm another stab in the back.
When is a network going to let all of Clinton's skeletons out of the closet? Not in 5 second increments here and there, but all at once (plenty of time now with the writer's strike) They can talk about Peter Paul, chinagate, Norman Hsu, Castle Grande, etc. Some people say a lot of these issues are "old news", but so isOJ and Britney and they are still getting coverage 24/7.
I read there is yet another movie out detailing all of Clinton's "crimes", of course 99% of US citizens will never hear of it...But I bet everyone will know who the next American Idol will be!!
wow...what are you people freaking out about? talk about much ado over absolutely nothing. grow up...you're the one's who are "micromanaging" by flipping out and carrying on about about every single utterance out of this woman's mouth, analyzing and scrutinizing from every ridiculous angle, and "finding" things that aren't even there.
i thought that hillary was just stating the need to keep on top of things and hold people accountable, not turn a lazy blind-eye to everything going on around you, unlike our current do-nothing president who holds no one accountable and isn't held accountable by anyone..
is that what you want? another do-nothing president?
Uh, no, Hillary...the President is analogous to a CEO; the COO is the one who fires the White House Travel Office staff, remember?
Really, do you think American people are so stupid?
You state that you didn't vote for the invasion of Iraq; cannot even admit you even read the national security memos but was "briefed" on it. Is that what MANAGEMENT is to you? You didn't even take responsibility for allowing Bob Johnson to act so arrogant at your campaign event. You didn't respect the Dem Party by taking your name off the MI ballot; the list goes on…..
Cares about the Middle Class? When we lived in your state, Hillary, in upstate NY the economy sucked and there were no good jobs for anyone. The military base my husband was assigned to couldn't even house many of the soldiers' families on base and the local real estate was using military families desperate need for housing to make a huge profit and I saw NO evidence that anyone was stepping in to help out while families stayed separated because they had no where to live. THEY WERE LIVING IN HOTELS. I was lucky to get a decent apartment off base before my husband came back from Iraq.
"What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
May the best candidate win. Goodnight!
I'm tried of Hillary dogging her own party member. She is so childish....that it is sickening. Edwards or Obama for president.
I totally agree with Lynne. Aren't we all Democrat? I believe the Change will come no matter who is running the country. The most important thing is we American have to be united. Let's support our candidates " I believe they do not like what we democrat fellow are attacking each other" This kind of behavior is not genuine characteristic of us. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!
Actually organization is inspiring....things are not then lost and it follows things that need to be done are done....and that spurs on the next task.
It seems it is still a glass ceiling for women, especially capable and compentent.
Compare the not voting record and the non vote of PRESENT in the Congress and find that Obama was not very commited to several things he states he supports by not actually voting.
Yes or no...make the commitment...I tend to admire someone who votes as they speak. And if they see a change is in order later....say so.....as Hillary has. Still a lot of gender bias out there. He should have waited another election or two.
This fits with several sources reporting that Obama rarely voted for legislation while in the senate. Was he too disorganized to vote or was he so busy being rhetorical and lofty that he couldn't focus on getting the job done? As they say, 'the devil is in the details."
Hillary Clinton will destroy the Democratic Party. Supporters of Hillary, please do not support her so blindly. She will say anything for a vote. She is just as bad is Mitt Romney, if not worse. Both are experts in lip service.
Just say NO to Hillary. Vote Obama!!!!
Hillary is so petty and it's clear she has ran out of ideas to campaign on!!! that's why she's settling for personal attacks and misconstructing any statement Barack Obama makes as if she's an English professor grading Essays. Bringing Bob Johnson onboard and showing up on BET as a cover up after throwing Martin Luther King Jr under the bus and the race card her husband platyed was a sign of someone who insults Americans and blacks intelligence.
The Clintons got majority of African Americans brainwashed by some stunt Bill made in his tenure as a president ...hiring a black personal secretary in the White House, building his offices in Harlem, NY, making appearances in NAACP awards and many more that i wont mention in this site!!! . But this is what i'll mention... there is nothing CONCRETE Bill Clinton did for African Americans to make them progress. , it's time for African Americans to open their eyes, brains and quit being puppets of the Clintons and cast their votes based on merit on who deserves to make constructive changes for American people..whether its Obama, Edwards, McCain, Romney etc. It still hurts my feelings in that statitistics have proven only the educated/learned or young energetic African Americans with new views about the world are ready to cast their votes based on "CHANGE" and 'MERIT". The rest still believes in Clinton's old ways.
personally, i'm tired of the Bushes and Clintons with their 1980's ideologies in the White House. Someone must have lied to those two families as the only ones can save American people. Obama is for "CHANGE" and tackling current pressing matters especially International tests the country is facing. Gas prices has hicked coz we lack good relationship with Middle East countries to trade due to Bush's ignorance and arrogance.
Forget "EXPERIENCE" as another Hillary's campaign slogan!!!. She has never been a president before and if "EXPERIENCE" song is being sung coz of her husband, then Americans better be prepared to be voting Bill Clinton in for the 3rd term .
I agree with Hillary, sounds like Obama wants someone to do his work for him, I kinda figured that from the getgo!!! HILLARY FOR PREZ!!!
Sounds like what Giuliana said may be true!!!
New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani said that Obama was not ready to be president Former due to a lack of executive experience. He has never run a city, he has never run a state, never run a business" said Giuliani. AMEN AMEN AMEN—HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
No way I'm voting for obama, even if he wins the nomination. I'll vote for the republican in November!!!!
Obama is ABCD- ALL BLAH CONFUSED DREAMER
I hate all politicians that don't talk about anything accept try and bring down the other candidates. Thats why I love Obama. Clinton needs to shut up and talk about what she stands for and who she really is before she says anything.
I thought Hillary said she was "the agent of change", it seems like the same old same old.
Obama08
Hillary is acting like his mother, just as well he didn't mention he dosn't clean up his room too offen.
He earn't his law degree from Harvard , where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review.
You don't achieve what this man achieved by being slack. I think he is his own worst critic and Hillary should get on with HER campain and leave these negative slurs to Bill.
Here in Iowa we recall when her campain was all about EXPERIANCE and when Barack moved up in the polls with his message of CHANGE she adopted CHANGE, she a oldstyle politician feeding the voters whatever works for her and getting others to do the mudslinging while she charms the voters.
Obama has Democrats, independants and Republicians who see him as the only viable candidate who can get some work out of Washington and stop this school yard type of retoric that should be a thing of the past.
We are facing within the next few years the biggest change since the industrial revolution and we need a new age politician who can work with both sides of the senate and congress, he is too improbable not to be the man to do it.
Think about it , he is battling two Clintons in this race and inspite of this he's winning, he had everything thrown at him here in Iowa , vicious e/mails, rumours etc. Never heared him say " I'm being picked on ". Just stuck to HIS original campain of CHANGE.
Stick with this original who had the judgement to know that the last two decades of politics won't work anymore,
Obama for President
Reading this blog has left a me with a sense of dread. For the first time in years we have 3 highly qualified individuals to represent the democratic party in a presidential election. The only thing this blog represents is hatred and disunity. Are we really going to vote for a Republican for president if our favored dem doesn't win the candidacy? America cannot afford that! I do have a candidate that I prefer, however, regardless of the outcome I WILL vote democrat in 2008. I hope this blog is not a true reflection of the year to come.
Well, I suggest that hillary should start crying again so that she can get some attention.may be not.. this is not N.H...we don't believe that in Nevada...give OBAMA a break..you got a lot to do before you realize that u need to talk nonsense about one of the smartest people in the world..CLINTON ERA IS OVER N OBAMA WILL THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF..
Hilary Clinton has no integrity at all, and she is obsessed with Barack Obama. Throughout the debate she wouldn't stop saying "Obama and I" this, "Obama and I" that. It seems that she doesn't have any thing substantial on her own to offer the American people.
With the exception of Obama, non of the Dem. candidates could answer a simple question correctly. When asked what their strength and weaknesses are, Clinton and Edwards fabricated a respond that they thought the American people want to hear.
Hilary Clinton said Obama doesn't have the ability, the experience, or the skills to run the government; yet she asked that he co-sponsor a bill that she authored. If a person is not experienced or knowledgeable, why ask them to support you. Now she's going around picking apart every thing that he said.
Way to go Hilary! Tell the American people who you really are.
It will be interesting to see how Senator Clinton manages the fact that Senator Obama has caught her in the Zogby National poll.
I think it's important to know the candidate and not to be judgemental of them. I really admire Barack Obama: his relationship with his wife, his devotion to helping the needy in the community. And the way he stands up to the attacks against him. He is a good man and the better person for the presidency.
The smear campaign won't work, Hillary Clinton will win....
I just don't want for our Presidient to sound like an idiot and make decisions solely on what others are telling him.
Hillary should not have any problem releasing the papers from her tenure as First Lady. She is very well organized, apparently.
Hillary is so petty and it's clear she has ran out of ideas to campaign on!!! that's why she's settling for personal attacks and misconstructing any statement Barack Obama makes as if she's an English professor grading Essays. Bringing Bob Johnson onboard and showing up on BET as a cover up after throwing Martin Luther King Jr under the bus and the race card her husband platyed was a sign of someone who insults Americans and blacks intelligence.
The Clintons got majority of African Americans brainwashed by some stunt Bill made in his tenure as a president …hiring a black personal secretary in the White House, building his offices in Harlem, NY, making appearances in NAACP awards and many more that i wont mention in this site!!! . But this is what i'll mention… there is nothing CONCRETE Bill Clinton did for African Americans to make them progress. , it's time for African Americans to open their eyes, brains and quit being puppets of the Clintons and cast their votes based on merit on who deserves to make constructive changes for American people..whether its Obama, Edwards, McCain, Romney etc. It still hurts my feelings in that statitistics have proven only the educated/learned or young energetic African Americans with new views about the world are ready to cast their votes based on "CHANGE" and 'MERIT". The rest still believes in Clinton's old ways.
personally, i'm tired of the Bushes and Clintons with their 1980's ideologies in the White House. Someone must have lied to those two families as the only ones can save American people. Obama is for "CHANGE" and tackling current pressing matters especially International tests the country is facing. Gas prices has hicked coz we lack good relationship with Middle East countries to trade due to Bush's ignorance and arrogance.
Forget "EXPERIENCE" as another Hillary's campaign slogan!!!. She has never been a president before and if "EXPERIENCE" song is being sung coz of her husband, then Americans better be prepared to be voting Bill Clinton in for the 3rd term .
Obama is honest. Hillary needs to take notes.
I'm fourteen years old and not that much experience with politics but even I can still understand that Hillary needs to shut up. So what? Obama makes the mistake of saying he's a little unorganized. The solution- get people to HELP YOU GET ORGANIZED. Hillary is just a tool.
Great! Obama admits he can't keep his own desk organized???. that he will lose papers if someone gives it to him too soon???
He just gave away the keys to his kingdom!!!
The republicans will bury him with confusion/detail if he gets the nomination. and wins the White House. Obama will be a sitting duck for their diabolical tactics.
He simply fails to realize what a complicated, demanding job the Presidency is.
I feel sorry for him if he gets in. He will be overwhelmed and collapse at the immensity of the job.. He will chase his tail and get exhuasted. He will get disallutioned when the Republicans don't play nice , aren't moved by his flowery, windy oratory and, sorry to say, HE will be the one crying.
Please leave the job to a battle-hardened political warrior like Hillary.
She has the skill, intelligence and stamina to take on the Republican opposition and clean up the mess.
GO HILLARY!!!!
she is cunning!
You Obama backers are so naive. Everything is an attack on Obama...... False. All Hillary is saying is that you need to be able to keep track of the the vision you set for each branch of the government, not have your current secretary do that for you. That is exactly how Bush has tried to run his presidency. That is all we need is another person like Cheney ie....whoever his running mate is, running the country. Obama is a good speaker.....and probably will be able to do the best job of getting people together, however he will not be able to keep track of who is doing what. Why not vote for his campaign manger for president............I do not believe Hillary to be a uniter however the Clintons have a track record of being able to lead. Including Hillary. She was never the typical spouse of a governer/president. Does your spouse not keep involved in running your house with you...............I find that my wife is more organized, more skilled at balancing tasks than me. That is probably what Bill is talking about when he says she is even better prepared to president that he was. I think Bill was pretty darn good when it came to his adminstrative and political skills. Personal life aside.
Get real and stop dreaming...........Get back to reality, change can only occur with reality not fantasy..........
"Jim January 16, 2008 2:19 pm ET
What a dumb thing to make an issue out of."
Are you kidding me?! You mean somebody trying to convince America that they should get a job they are not prepared to handle and have admitted to not even KNOWING what the job entails.....and it's not an issue?
Wake up folks and start reading–those of you who can read above the 3rd grade level. If the Dems do not unite around someone who knows what the heck it is like to get something done in Washington, it will be President Romney or worse. After reading these posts, I am once again afraid that emotion and propaganda and simplistic jingles are the rallying cries behind the votes. I overheard somebody talking in a store today that hearing John Edwards talk made her feel "slimy" so she wouldn't vote for him. Say what?? Please restore our country by voting responsibly. We are electing the President , not the Prom King or Queen.
Hillary won the debate hands down, as noted by the Las Vegas Sun this morning. She's obviously the most READY to serve as President from Day 1in the Oval Office. And she will be able to serve as Chief Executive over the Federal bureaucracy, holding her Cabinet and agency heads ACCOUNTABLE, without needing someone to keep her desk straight. And the brightest, most observant political commentators agree she performed head and shoulders above Obama and Edwards. For example, only she was able to speak authoritatively about sovereign wealth funds and the risk they pose to the stability and security of U.S. financial institutions.
Do you honestly think that the President puts together his/her own schedule? The day is planned out for them so having papers around your desk in no way makes you a worse leader. And on that note, maybe Hillary should ask Jimmy Carter how handling everything inside the white house turns out. Maybe she'll schedule the tennis courts too...
Obama is an empty suit! He has the ability to get people fired up, however after the election we will not need cheer leading sessions.
We will need experience of someone to implement change and ensure that we have appropriate accountability and checks/balances in place.
Think about the lack of accountability with our current white house admin on how they just selected their friends to provide services at outrage prices. Guess what...we get to pay for that lapse in judgement and lack of accountability.
Its theTone at the top!
What I'm hearing Obama say is something like "I don't have to be accountable...but the other folks on my team need to be". That's why we have so many issues in corporate america today...CEOs and COOs were not held accountable. Just look at the mess occuring now in the financial services and mortgages. Had those CEOs and COOs been managing their risk better then they might have been able to keep their jobs. what happened to them? they lost their jobs but exited with a golden parachute...millions of dollars. what message does that send?
I like Obama but he can't honestly win the election or perform the job on day 1. Would love for him to get experience and seasoning as a VP first. After shadowing a president, then I think he would be awesome as a president. Without some experience, I fear that he will be overwhelmed and not positioned to be successful (too big of a learning curve). who ever is elected...we want them to be successful.
Hillary – here is proof that Obama is a well managed and organized man.
How, in this day and age could Obama be labeled as unorganized or unable to manage? Americans everyday see Obama on T.V. like this:
Obama relentlessly campaigns, he maintains a professional, prepared performance, he performs under the most stressful, grueling, exhausting conditions – the demanding conditions candidates face when running for office is proof he can handle it. And to top it off he doesn't have as much experience at running for office as you do Hillary. And look where he is in the polls.
You have to be well managed and organized to perform and deliver the performace that Obama does day after day night after night. You cannot tell me this man is not organized or cannot manage.
Get realistic Hillary, In our day and age the candidates are now more than ever expected to juggle and perform ungodly time schedules and perform relentlessly.
How could Hillary make the comment?
Hillary is just grasping for anything to criticize him. This was the wrong thing for her to say.
Karl Rove must be advising Hillary. I remember such dirty tricks by Bush's team against Kerry. I would recommend all to see the old movie, 'Candidate". Hillary is doing what a typical presidential candidate does...She is trying to swift boat Obama...
Obama has the decision making foresight that Hillary lacks! Clinton was wrong on the Iraq war! A war that has cost the lives of thousands of American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis. How did her experience help her make the decision to go into Iraq?
Obama has more experience as an elected official then Hilary as well. He worked his way into the senate through hard work on the streets of Chicago. He represents the future direction for our country, working together as Americans. I don't want to go through another crippling political presidency like that in the 90's. What was the response to that environment? Oh yeah Bush. Let's diversify our presidency.
Obama 08
Obama said:
“I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can, and I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can bridge differences … better than I can," he said. “But I’m not an operating officer. Some in this debate around experience seem to think the job of the president is to go in and run some bureaucracy. Well, that’s not my job. My job is to set a vision of 'here's where the bureaucracy needs to go.'"
Then, at the Democratic debate Tuesday night, Obama seemed to suggest he tends to be disorganized.
"I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,” said Obama."
How in Earth person like this want to lead this huge country? To lead is not a soap opera, it is serious work!
I would never hire person like this to work for me!
Regardless of which of the three: Hillary, Obama, or Edwards, is the democratic candidate...I'll sleep much better knowing that Bush's reign is over and that Rudy isn't elected. I just want the candidate who will win. Gosh, I'm starting to sound like a Republican....Sorry!!!!
Wait a minute! had it not been the superior organization skill of Obama and his team he would not have won IA. Clinton Remember you have all the advantage, name recognition and being the former 1st lady. About the 35 yrs experience, you do sometime make me laugh. You were not born at the same time with Obama and you want Obama to have the same years of experience? Obama as alot of public service experience than you. I am sorry the major experience you have is being a manager of the white house during your husband term and you failed terribly to known that your husband was cheating.
when people talk about experience, i wonder if we are born with it or we gain it!!! sometimes inspiration could be all it take to make progress in life!! i like to give an example of president lula of Brazil, who ran for the office of the Governor of Sao paulo, the richest state in Brazil, and lost. he was a congressman for only four years and ran for the office of President of Brazil three time. He lost the first two time and won on the third attempt. i just like to say that he didn't have a lot of experience, but he is now recognize has one of the best presidents Brazil has ever had!! He didn't have a lot of experience but what he had was and is a lot of inspiration that which i know Senator Obama has in abundance. If inspiration is what made Brazil what it is today then i think Senator Obama deserves a shot and if experience was what the people of America have always sort for and have failed to move forward (Because for the last 7 years, it seems that U.S.A has been on a standstill), then i think it is time to choose inspiration over experience and Change over Status quo, because from what i have seen, experience is one thing that's not missing from the Bush administration. Success most times is not attainable without inspiration and without drive. it's SENATOR OBAMA'S TIME to help inspire not only America but the world in general!! i think you guys should give him a shot.
Sayo, Brazil.
I read all of these comments and saw the debate and read the newspaper articles. I think Hillary's remarks are beautiful, on target.
I believe that Obama mentioning his weakness organizing documents is a low jab at the sexist connotations of a women's role.
If not that, then if he really thinks that just having a document two minutes before he needs it is his biggest weakness in the context of being the President of the United States – he's got a major wake-up call coming.
That's his weakest weakness! Lack of foreign policy experience, lack of experience managing anything other than recruiting black voters in Illinois and being a part-time Senator are among his major weaknesses there.
I'd also say an inflated self-esteem is his biggest weakness.
In the recent debate on MSNBC in questions by Tim Russert this is how Obama came across: I ask my staff not to give me any paper until 2 seconds before I need it for fear I may lose it.
I am not a Chief Operating Officer. Being a President does not mean schedules are being run properly. If Obama was on Apprentice Trump would fire him on the first episode. Seriously folks the above is a true revealation that comes from Obama's mouth.
Atleast Hillary's answer was straightforward and appropriate.
People will have to decide. But Hillary is still the far better choice.
so im doing this thing for my government class
and now i have to print all of your comments.
COOL!
from Wikipedia:
A Chief Operating Officer or Chief Operations Officer (COO) is a corporate officer responsible for managing the day-to-day activities of the corporation. The COO is one of the highest ranking members of an organization, monitoring the daily operations of the company and reporting to the Board of Directors. The COO is usually an executive or senior vice president.
Don't cry Hillary. There's still a place for you in Washington.
Really , you should all realize what is actually at stake here.
Obama has no experience with DC & the World. Do you want another disater like Bush? Come on lets vote for someone who really wants to take care of our country and restore what use to be a good country in many eyes of the world.
I read this in another blog....
"...Dear voters,
I have a plan, and that plan is to make things better. I will do that by being responsible and by making things better. There are 8 other points to my plan that will be revealed as soon as my White House documents are – after the election. I'll be ready on day one, and if I'm not elected, we will probably be attacked by terrorists. That is a fact, not a scare tactic. And Senator Obama smells funny. The end.
Your Friend,
HRC"
Funny stuff. If only she were so honest.
Obama inadvertently admitted that he would run the Whitehouse like President Bush. He, Obama, likes being a cheer leader. That's different than being a leader, A cheer leader is a spectator cheering his team on, A Leader is out on the field of play leading his/her team to victory.
Sorry, Obama, you don't have the skills to be President of the U.S.
mess on desk, around a person mirrors mess in their head, life. Do we want more mess than we already have? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not find anyone who would understand this. Vision -Yes, mess -No -why? In mess you lose the important documents, your flow of thoughts, it messes up your head, clear thinking. She did not mean that all papers have to be stacked perfectly, pencils sharpened. It is not about micromanagement, it is about efficiency, clarity, organization of all. If you have mess on desk, cannot find what you might need right away.......
all the messy people like this, but i would like to see them to handle big thing as country. Professor? Well – just in school – not that big environment, not such a important decisions as country security, all people problems, right?
Head of country has to know what is going on -leave it to the team? How then you will know how the team does the job? They might even mislead you, you can watch tv, or play with your mess on desk, and know what is really happening around! Watch out – this is dangerous path....... otherwise he might become just a puppet.................................
Somebody with a inspiration and vision can be an excellent spiritual leader, but not necessarily a great president. Being a president does need experience except just inspiration and vision.
Obama's comments on leadership and COO obviously aimed towards Hilary. I do not think Hilary cannot comment on the same issue in return. Some guys here are just being unfair.
An important leadership quality, given the situation the U.S. is in, is that one which Barack possesses and considered his strength. A fundamental leadership theory explains Obama’s motivation or strength to have close interpersonal relationships with other people including subordinates and that quality allows him to act in a considerate supportive manner if relationships need to be improved. His ability to bring people together is monumental in this race. Effective leadership depends on the situation. Relationships the U.S. is in need to be improved, Barack has the qualities to do so.
Efthemia Vasiliadis
Vision? Hope? We have heard all these from Bush in the past. It does need more skills to be a president. Obama is just Democratic Party's version of Bush!
I had a lot of respect for the Clinton but I LOST IT ALL recently. You see people's true nature when they are challenged; the Clinton have resorted to petty, backstabbing tactics during this campaign. Seems like they are fighting for their own survival and ego instead of that of the country. So far Obama has kept his dignity.
what are all u people nut's!!!!!!!!!!! this country is in serious trouble and your going to put it in the hands of a man with less than two years in office . WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING???? IF OBAMA GETS IN OFFICE THEN YOU ALL DESERVE WHAT YOU GET!!!!!!!!!! THINK PEOPLE THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clearly, Hillary Clinton is a micro-manager as evidenced by her character weakness of impatience and her extensive resume of hands on experience. However, I think this nation needs a leader.
The funniest posts here are the ones from people who claim to know exactly what kinds of skills are needed to be a successful president. Someone has even gone so far as to say that Hillary would make a better cabinet member than president! As if you know!!
Can you even name the Departments in the President's Cabinet? Do you even know how may there are? Do you even know the names of the people who occupy those positions?
Yet, you know just what it takes to do their jobs!
How in the world did you ever acquire such a high opinion of yourself?
Let Obama be Martin Luther King and Hilary be president Lyndon B. Johnson.
I am not saying King cannot be a president, He probably can be a great president if given the chance.
But it is different of Obama, he is obviously not good enough to handle the role of King + Johnson, and he is better at handling King's role to be a spiritual leader and to inspire people, rather than Johnson's role to be a president, who knows how to actually have things done.
to all you Hillary haters, think about this..if we stay at home during the general election , your guy will never be elected. As a life long democrat, I am turned off by a canidate who proclaims he will bring us all together while his supporters talk trash talk. If Obama is as great as you claim, then please explain why the need to rely on such garbage mouths. Neither will win the general election if this bashing continues. And if you think Obama is being attacked harshly by Hillary, what are you going to do when the republican machine gets started.. Better get your dossage upped....
The President of the United States SHOULDN'T be a "details guy". People have different management styles, and "details guys" are not "vision guys". Obama has vision, and as president he would be able to and SHOULD delegate the details to others. He is the leader, not the implementer or the follower. Hillary apparently doesn't understand this because SHE HAS NO VISION for this country, and SHE HAS NO POLITICAL PRINCIPLES. Which ever way the wind blows or the polls indicate, that's what her beliefs are in any given week.
Another important attribute for effective leadership (and to further explain my previous post) is Emotional Intelligence (EI or EQ). Barack Obama has it. I believe that is pretty much why he can inspire people. It's a relevant competency that we need in a leader. Interpersonal skills are very important, especially when dealing with the diverse people of the U.S. and the world. Cognitive intelligence which is distinct from EI is still a type of psychological process that is interrelated to it. Barack has made evident in his presentation that his energy level (was thumbs up), stress tolerance (was thumbs up), self-confidence (was thumbs up), internal control orientation (was thumbs up), emotional maturity (was thumbs up), and INTEGRITY (clearly you can see it in Barack Obama’s eyes, face, gestures, and WORDS that he has INTEGRITY).
Efthemia Vasiliadis
New York, NY
When Hilary makes the point that Obama lacks "experience" in Washington politics, I would just like to walk up and hug the woman. Everyday she attacks him, I mean, mentions him, she gives him more publicity. Every ridiculous attack she makes against him, i.e., just because he has a messy desk he can't run this country, she shows more of her true self. Now, I'm not saying anything against her record, she's fairly well in her career, but I will say she is nothing more than your average politician. New challenges require new solutions, and Obama is the one to bring that. For those of you who say that he is vague, just take a look at his website and you will have those doubts put to rest.
And by the way, nice point Ron
When the Clintons had the opportunity to change health care , which they started by the coronation of Hillary as the one one in charge, they chose politics over the American people. They stopped Health care reform and accepted gifts instead! We need a leader who is sincere and is not afraid to admit his weaknesses on national television. When Hillary had the opportunity again she chose politics over the American people by voting for war! They can't eat their cake and have it! Power to the people !
Obama is being modest. You need to be organized and intelligent to do what he has done with his candidacy, and to be Editor of the Harvard Law Review!!
Please America, don't put an amateur like Obama in the White House. You can just imagine what would happen when he gets to his first scandal. "I don't know", "Don't ask me", "I'm just the President". Sheesh Barack is there anything at all of substance behind your stutter and your fake southern accent?
Does this mean Hillary is gong to do without a Cabinet? Without a Chief of Staff? Is this how she plans on keeping Bill out of trouble? Sorry Hillary, you just lost another vote with your tactics.
As others have pointed out, I have to be honest here.
The only conclusion I can come to is that most of the Obama supporters are 20 years old. It really seems that way from the responses here.
Its great that young people want to vote and take part. However, they all gravitate to the biggest 'star' candidate and ignore the real REASON for voting someone into office.
When I was 20, certainly the state of the economy or war, or how insiders in washington worked was NOT the top of my list of things to research.
All I have ever seen is petty PERSONAL attacks on both clintons, whereas we hillary supporters attack Obamas lack of EXPERIENCE , which is really important to us.
All of us who are at least 35 year old will REMEMBER what the country was like in 1992 , and how Clinton changed the economy and goverment spending and the whole 9 yards.
This is why we KNOW that Hillary can do the job. She was there. In fact, young people dont realize HOW MUCH people inside the white house were saying it was HILLARY who was running the show, not Bill.
Whether it was true or not, inst as important as the obvioius fact she was MUCH more involved in the administration than someone like Laura Bush .
Nancy Reagan was very involved as well.
Young voters dont remember any of this.
All they see is both Hillary and Bill are OLD FARTS, and cannot relate to them. They think Bill and Hillary Clinton = George Bush
We who were around know nothing is farther from the truth.
I dont care about petty politics.
I CARE ABOUT MY FAMILY. THE ECONOMY. ABOUT GETTING OUT OF IRAQ AND REPAIRING OUR REPUTATION IN THE WORLD. I
I CARE ABOUT RESPONBILE GOVERMENT. I CARE ABOUT HAVING A PRESIDENT WHO CAN HANDLE THE GOVERMENT.
If I honestly thought a greenhorn Barack Obama could pull this off, I would be voting for the guy.
She claims to have 35 years of experience. I don't know what kind of experience she got. It seems that she doesn't even know leadership principles. This is scary to me. I am not definitely going to vote for her. My vote will go to either Mccain, Huckabee or Obama.
I still can't figure out how come cnn is this bias with reporting??? Well, if Obama was going to play the kind stupid game Hillary is playing then he should be all over the news with the politics of fear hillary admit she would lead us more into when she is president. But Obama is more matured with his thinking, he's right now working on being the president of america by giving people what they actually want from an america president while Hillary is so busy trying to find fault with every words that comes out of his mouth.
Sometimes, I wonder how stupid the Hillary suppoters can be to continue to support her even though she has proved all she wants is power at all cost. Some people are not that stupid and am so glad am one of the not that stupid hillary supporters. I'm for Obama...
Obama talks about change! Something new? Inexperienced?
He does not know change. He has no vision?
I do not know what people sees in Obama – most of the people who writes all these in favor of Obama in the web are Republicans who would like to have a black democratic candidate so they can easily win playing the race card in the general election. They are spreading poison to democratic supporters mind against the formidable candidate in Hilary Clinton. The Clinton Presidency gave serious economic prosperity in the country. Their records are hard to run against.
She is articulate. She is very presentable. She is a woman – who can attract a lot woman republicans. She has serious chance of winning – and stop this wasteful, mindless republican rule of King George Bush II.
DEMOCRATS – Beawre.
does anybody think about how Hillary dodged the question about accepting money from special interests? I think she should of answered that question instead of Obama. Everybody knows he does not accept money from them
Focused leader wins. In corporate world a CEO and his team who waste too much time on competitors' strategies and pitfalls and spend time discussing those, remain discussing and keep losing business.
a true leader concentrate on his/ her strengths and the strengths, weakness, opportunities (SWOT) goes miles ahead.
To both Hillary and Obama, one of you is going to lead one day (if you win primaries and then beat republican leader in November), why don't you concentrate on your agenda, what you will do for the nation, and in what order....No handouts please. Talking about tax concessions etc. is irrelevent. Talk about simplifying tax laws and all other laws. Let the lawyers starve, tax practitioners starve, less courts and judiciary........more time for productive work than increasing decreasing 250 dollars or any other small amounts and making fool of hard working masses.
We need simple life (legal, tax, parliamentary affairs, economic, monetary policies than complicated products, laws and regulations to create myriads of unproductive "parasites" ). Is any of you going to make life easier for us, e.g. No tax on income up to, say, $240,000 and then 5% on 24,001 to 60,000 and then 10% from income from 60,001 to 120,000 and then increase steeply to 40% above 120,000 to 360,000 and then 50% or above.....
Nothing else in the tax law. No child benefit, no basic exemption or whatever......No spousal allowance no single allowance, no begging allowance, no donation allowance...nothing.
One more change (it affects me badly but nation needs it)....Remove all preferential treatment...on any source of income....why tax only 50% of capital gains, especially on sale of stocks?? Just remove all sources....
I can go on and on....Both Obama and Hillary are thinking in the box, and if they continue thinking like this and think we are looking for doles and no new ideas to really improve the lot of americans and reduce bureaucracy...inefficient and unproductive ......"Think Out of Box" and we will vote for you, otherwise, why shall abstain to make any of your election illegitimate for not bringing majority out to vote......
It is amazing how all of you are afraid of Hillary and in love with Obama. He fumbled in the debate and he is very arrogant thinking that he is the only one that can unite the country. The media is really giving him a free ride. All these attacks agains Clinton make me wonder. She is right in bringing some of these points agains Obama. Otherwise you will think that this guy is perfect . He never gives any specific about his plans but loves to use those beautiful words. George Busch also campaigned saying he was going to unite the country and bring values to Washington. .
So much for the truce.
Hillary saw an opening and went for an attack.
I want a leader who can inspire the nation and lift their spirits and steer them in a better direction, not a manager who puts people down at every chance.
I'm so glad that Hillary is putting herself out there as a "change" candidate. I really appreciate the way that she is going after Barack for giving an honest (and human) answer to a strauightforward question and miling every little drop of political gain she can for it.
Thank you, hillarry for showing us that change can really just be more of the same old same old.
Seriously, if this is what you are willing to do to win this nomination, do you really think that the people who feel moved and inspired by Barack Obama are just going to jump on board? I'm a party loyalist, but after this campaign, I would have a really tough decision if I had to choose between a John McCain and a Hillary.
Tom Davie some of us were around during the Clinton era qnd old enough as you're but will never vite clinton. We feel she's not genuine and seems like someone who will want to be President at all cost. This is a red flag!
For those who think only 20 something folks are writing on this blog –you are mistaken. I am a 53 year old women who came of age in Washington DC, during the height of the modern feminist movement. I walked the mall, picketed the White House etc. etc. etc. Hillary Clinton is not getting my vote. I would have voted for her 4 years ago. She is simply not the best candidate for our nation today. There are many women my age who feel the same way. This is a critical point in our nation's future. US is a part of a global community - and that global community drives our economy. This process is extremely complex. We need someone who has intellegence and confidence of the american people to move forward.
Uhhh....Wait a minute!
Please don't be fooled by or feared into a knee-jerk reaction. Hillary is strong and competent, I'll give her that. But, her true talent is the ability to adjust herself to fit the moment in order to win. That worries me and I don't trust it. She has shown poor judgement throughout this campaign. Do not think for one second that her negative surrogates imparting all of that damaging rhetoric against Obama weren't expressing the tone that she truly feels. I do not like or appreciate her kind of politics. It is the same business as usual and that does not mean change. It means the same story in a different package. Those fear tactics, calculated moments, in the beginning agreeing to the Nevada caucus in the casinos but now instigating a lawsuit through the teacher's union to prevent it because the Culinary Union endorsed Obama, not making a public appology for BET Bob Johnson's foolish remark about Obama's actions THIRTY YEARS AGO and two other of her surrogates for saying the same thing and on and on...spells very poor judgement!
Obama is correct. The President of the United States needs to be a uniter, a visionary and a great leader. Hillary has embarrassingly shown herself to be calculating and divisive regardless of last night's "one day" truce.
I don't want to see anymore dirty politics. America needs to stop accepting childness in government in order to gain political points. We want freshness, broadness, wit, HONESTY, and sound judgement. Please give me a break about all the experience this woman has. None of these candidates has ever been the President of the United States and none of them has any idea what to expect once they get into the White House. But we certainly don't need to bring more smut and dishonesty into that chair. We have enough of that already.
Don't lose sight of the reality that so many of Hillary's actions throughout this campaign have been negative political strategizing not unlike the foul play Bush used against John McCain in South Carolina in 2000. This does not take us forward. It takes us backwards. Obama is what is best for this country. Not someone who will stoop so low when her perceived "entitlement" to the thrown is compromised. Remember, people are afraid and in panic right now because of the economy. Last month it was the war. Next month it will be Global Warming again. And after that it will be some natural disaster that we didn't see coming. The news channels are deadly during times like this because all you hear and see is how the country is going to hell in a hand basket. This is the perfect stage for someone like Hillary who is using all this bad news to her advantage and unfortunately is trying to kill America's wish for true change in government. And the Republicans are absolutely loving this because if she wins the nomination they believe, and so do I, that they can defeat Hillary in the National race and keep the house. They know her. They have hoards of stuff on her. Obama, on the other hand, is clean and they have nothing on him. He would be much harder to defeat. Don't let Hillary's panic button strategy sway you in the wrong direction. It is the same stuff we have always seen and boy is the Clinton machine coming down hard. See through it and see through it clearly or else we are going to go through another 4 or 8 years of Republicans or a Democrat with dishonest tendancies. Obama is non-corrupt, clean, clear and has a true and honest vision of hope for this country. Vote wisely!
How many business fail when leaders do not know how to operate? More than 75%. I think she has a point.
Obama is exactly right. The congress has the bulk of running the government. Obama has to put them in the right direction. He is a smart man. He has the last word, but he doesn't do all the work. Hillary judgement is terrible. She has already proved that.
Karsen Rumpf
Iowa City, IA
Is this an intellectual or insulting discussion? I thought this was a forum to share ideas and not insults. Look at the last comment , how can one say Hilary's supporters are stupid because they support her, when Obama, a confessed drug addict has people who support him. At times I believe it is a waste of time to visit this site as all that one reads is the venom spewing out of contributors mouth. CNN it is high time you edited this site.
Obama Clinton '08. You show them how to organize that desk Hillary.
it's interesting to see the obama supporters are so filled with hatred - what an odd thing when the whole spirit of his campaign is unity and bringing people together. why so angry and vicious all of you obama people? is it fear? is it ignorance? that is usually where hatred comes from. i am sad and embarassed for you.
and as for the women who continue to pour out misogynistic remarks toward hillary - as madelaine albright said "women who don't support women....there's a special place for you in hell." (men are just out of control on the issue - beyond help).
by all means - support whomever you want - but the misogyny and hatred gets you nowhere and is hurting your candidate - not to mention the country - in the long - and short - run.
if obama or clinton or edwards won in november - i am a happy black man. can the crap democrats - or we will soon have another republican to deal with and i am getting too old for that.
The semantic import of CEO and COO are unnecessary here. The truth is that Senator Clinton is right in saying that Senator Obama has to bother about what goes on in his command because management teaches that a leader only delegates duties but would be held accountable for the over all performance of his subordinates. That is the big management picture. Period. So Senator Obama needs to care about those details because in the long run he will be held accountable as CEO.
I cannot believe some of the things I've been reading on here. So much anger. Ouch! Am I the only one who sees this? I mean come on, how bad of a human being is Hillary really? From what I know and remember the US economy was "booming" back in the Clinton days.
While Obama might be nice to look at he hasn't proven himself enough to the American people. Hillary on the other hand has been at it for 35 years, so let's not pretend that experience means nothing when in fact we all know it means everything! Moreover, Hillary has international exposure, something the next President of the united States is going to have to capitalize on a lot once in office – let's not forget the mess the USA is in right now. T
here's too much at stake here people...
- Imagine you need to have a brain tumor removed and have a choice between a surgeon with 25 yrs of experience or an intern...how would proceed? Who would you choose and what would be the deciding factor? EXPERIENCE!!!
Personally, I'd rather have a b@#$ as President... GO HILLARY!!!
So, if Obama is handed the President's Daily Brief (a confidential CIA document) he is likely to lose it within two seconds?
That's inspiring.
Seriously – look at the way a campaign is ran and you will discover how America will be ran. I'm seeing lot of dishonesty. I am seeing a lot of back stabbing. I am seeing some who thinks they can pull the sheets over my eyes and point out meaningless flaws. No, I am not a baby boomer – I am a gen Y'er and I am sick and tired of people saying voting H. Cilnton in is like voting in Bill Clinton. This is not the 90's folks. There is not big boom in sight... there is no huge opportunity (the internet) right around the corner.
Inspiration drives WE the people – WE are the ones who are going to get things done. This our country and \/\/E change what happens in the future. This is precisely why we do not need a politician as a president. We need a leader who inspires us to accomplish the things that are difficult and unit us to a common theme. That is what change is all about... evolving us as a nation, as a people. None of us are happy with the state of the economy. The last 24 years shows the divides that two families have driven. United States of America.
I can't believe all of the Obama Supporters/Hillary Haters on this blog are REAL DEMOCRATS. Because I would believe if they were truly Obama Supporters, they would have a lot more class than what they are showing. They must be disguised as Democrats but really are REPUBLICANS. It would explain the half-truths, sexism (Hillary, a manager but not a leader, give me a break!), and misinformation.
Hello Tom: here goes your logic, Bill changed the economy, therefore, Hillary will change the econony in 2009, wow! Well, what about this logic: Bill never made ... to that woman", and I guess Hillary will say: Well, I attacked that man during the campain, but I never made.. to that man."
I am in my early 50's now, and I remember too well (no memory deficits yet), how I held myhands in shame at all the infractions of the Clintons during those years. Indeed, I started to seriously tune in to political issues when Clinto was in office and by the time he left, I had switched my party consideration.
" Tom Davie " I am 51 years old , and i voted for Bill Clinton , but that was then ,and this is now.
Times have changed , Bush has split this country apart , and destroyed America's reputation in the world.
Hillary Clinton devides the country before she even has the job. If you think Bush is bad , put Clinton in there , and you will realize that you voted for a Bush on steroids. She is a very very dishonest person that does one thing good " Divides".
Here is a folow-up clip from one of the best in this business, enjoy:
""Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.
Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.""
All Obama said is he is a team player and in his admin there will be people to do various tasks. He will be left with leadership and foresight rather than the nitty gritties of office organization.
If Obama was really as disorganized as Hillary tries to portray, he'll not have stood up against tyhe massive Clinton organization and dirty tricks and definitely she'll be riding the high road and not talking about Obama all the time.
And by the way Obama is a leader and thats why:
Obama was against the war before Hillary was for it then against it.
Obama is for vision and good judgement, Hillary is for experience.
Obama was for change before Hillary adopted the theme.
Obama was Fired up and ready to go before Hillary used the same stump speech.
Obama was for hope before Bill claimed Hillary also offers hope.
She is just trying to deflect from her comment when asked what was her flaw. Instead of giving an honest answer as Obama did, she gives a total fluff answer about being inpatient when she cares about something. She is just starting to sound pathetic.
An important leadership quality, given the situation the U.S. is in, is that one which Barack possesses and considered his strength. A fundamental leadership theory explains Obama’s motivation or strength to have close interpersonal relationships with other people including subordinates and that quality allows him to act in a considerate supportive manner if relationships need to be improved. His ability to bring people together is monumental in this race. Effective leadership depends on the situation. Relationships the U.S. is in need to be improved, Barack has the qualities to do so.
Another important attribute for effective leadership (and to further explain my previous statement) is Emotional Intelligence (EI or EQ). Barack Obama has it. I believe that is pretty much why he can inspire people. It's a relevant competency that we need in a leader. Interpersonal skills are very important, especially when dealing with the diverse people of the U.S. and the world. Cognitive intelligence which is distinct from EI is still a type of psychological process that is interrelated to it. Barack has made evident in his presentation that his energy level (was thumbs up), stress tolerance (was thumbs up), self-confidence (was thumbs up), internal control orientation (was thumbs up), emotional maturity (was thumbs up), and INTEGRITY (clearly you can see it in Barack Obama’s eyes, face, gestures, and WORDS that he has INTEGRITY).
Hillary is saying anything to win and that is so cheap. Go Obama .
I've grown very tired of the comparisons between GW Bush and Obama. There is no comparison. The Clinton camp keeps trying to say that Obama is saying the same thing as Bush in terms of being a leader to set the vision and having people around him to get it done.
It may be similar language, but with very different meaning. Bush has never been a leader. At times he's been very good at appearing as if he is a leader, but he has always been a puppet president. Even his campaign was very carefuully orchestrated by people like Karl Rove. He has never appeared to have been in charge of his administration or was ever in charge of his campaign. Obama IS a leader. He seems to be very effective at using the people around him instead of being used by the people around him like Bush.
Experience? And exactly where has experience got us? Heck, George Bush had a president for a dad and he still turned out to be a horrible leader. Also,you can't play both sides of the field, hillary- boasting about how much experience you have but then saying that washington is broken and you are the change we need!?! Why would i want someone who is experienced in the same ole dirty political tricks that have been going on for decades?????
OBAMA 08!
Just a few observations .....
Most Obama bloggers sound SO much more PETTY than they claim Hillary sounds.
My kids sound so much more mature than the whining you hear here – 'she's meeean' 'that's not faaaair' 'she hit fiiiiirst'
Please grow up Obama supporters – at least for his sake.
Hillary supporters comment on her substance.
Obama supporters comment on how mean she is.
Breaking of truce shows the kind of leader you are or going to be.Beloved Americans wake up and size wisely.
Vision and inspiration is the job of strategist and priest, which Obama may be good at. The command in Chief is about making real and important decisions in getting there, what Hilary can do.
Actually a person with lots of inspiration and charisma, but not enough actual political experience can sometimes be very dangerous, although not so in the US system where the power of the president is limited.
Someone has to ask the questions about the things that matter. Apparently, many voters are too busy swooning to do it themselves, there are too many topics that seem to be off limits and the media is as incompetent and silly as they have every been. We should all be grateful to Hillary for asking those questions for us.
Organization, in any capacity, is critical. The most respected leaders are those that lead by example. What example would Obama be setting for us if he takes the postion "its not in my job description?" Running the government is the essence of the job, at least domestically. Anyone foolish enough to make the statements Obama did does not deserve to be our CEO.
A President who knows littte to nothing, has no backbone and is not willing to run our goverment, is in fact a puppet. Now how is that different than the Howdy Doody we currently have in office?
And about the subject of race – after reading Obama's autobiography, I certainly want to know how someone who was lovingly raised by white grandparents can spew anit-white sentiments and suddenly switch to black? I certainly would like to know his postion on civil rights and what his plans are for relations with countries other than Africa. How does he feel about whites and non-whites/non-blacks. We deserve to know.
And how is it that so many Obama supporters make offensive gender-based jokes about Hillary and no one dares to make offensive black jokes about Obama? I guess its okay to bash women but bashing a black man would be considered a hate crime. I've read a great deal more hate messages on this board directed toward women than I am sure any of you would dare utter publicly. Ask yourselves why that's so.
LOL at you people who keep saying Obama's middle name or saying Osama. I mean seriously, how much more childish can you get??? GET A LIFE!
Hillary will get my vote when it comes to my area. We need a President who is committed to America and her people, not some other country. I've heard some of Hillary's plans, and I feel from the bottom of my heart that she really wants to help American people, our healthcare, our financial problems, etc.
And she's not using 'religion' as way to snow the voters, like some of our politicians do.
Thanks for reading what I had to say.
Obama seemed to fumble alot of words at the debate and looked unsure of himself not a good sign of a leader. From what he described he needs ADHD meds.
I encourage Mr Obama in his race to US presidency . Obama is so polite and honest than his counterpart Hillary Clinton. Clinton can't you be ashamed of talking about Obama instead of telling us how are you going to develop our country and the world?
AS times wrote: "Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service. "
GOOOOOOO OBAMA! VOTE OBAMA 08.
I don't understand why this is being interpreted as a negative comment on Obama's part. We don't want a president who is "hands-on" in the way that they try to control everything themselves. Being an executive in office means that they get the right people who are capable of doing their job to the best of their ability at top notch quality. Look back to Jimmy Carter... He ran around the white house counting toilet paper rolls, he wanted control of everything! It is good to have a president in control, but I don't think Obama meant at all that he wouldn't take control. This comment lowered my opinion of Hillary Clinton. Not enough to take away my vote, but it's left me feeling a bit of discontent. A president isn't there to take care of all duties by him/herself and if we have a candidate claiming they could take on this amount of responsibility, I'd be worried. A president needs to know when to step back and let the experts do their job that he/she appointed them to do. He/she also needs to hold them accountable, so if they're not doing their job they have to get outta there! No president, man or woman, can claim to be able to handle all responsibilities mostly on their own.
I wonder If Hillary is always in blame game, would not she be doing the same as president Bush did and doing now; pulling our nation backward then where we stand just few years ago. I dont understand why its necessary to have management skill to become a President of the people who have vision for our nation.Did Bill Gates management skill made him the worlds number one or his vision towards the need of the future?I think Hillary is so self centered and wants to be president by any means just to feed her ego rather than bring any good to our nation.
Friends, I'm an old lady and an Obama supporter. After all the horrors of the Bush years, we need somebody to lead us to a different way of being, both within the U.S. and the larger world. As a woman, I'd love to support Hillary (and will, if she wins the Demo nomination)–but for now, I'm in Obama's camp because he so magnificently articulates a vision of what we can be. Don't underestimate the importance of this: JFK turned the country around with his words and Roosevelt made sweeping progressive changes because he could convince people of the wisdom of his plans. As to Obama's lack of experience, hey, some of our best presidents have come into office with less. Read his books and see how his mind works–thorough, observant, hugely smart, honest.
Hillary supporters like Tom kindly advice your woman(Hillary) to stop atacking Obama.she should leave the poor man alone ok
YES WE CAN
Hmm... let's think about this. Barack spent his young life serving his community, the poor and elderly. He was elected to the Illinois state senate in 1996, and served for 8 years, before being elected as a US senator, of which he has almost 3 years of now.
8 + 3 = 12.Barack graduated Summa cum laude from Harvard University, practiced as a civil rights lawyer for years before becoming a professor of constitutional law ( think about that next time you listen to the way he debates) at Chicago University ( That's an ivy league school, for the ignorant among you). Barack Obama's message is Unity and beleif in the power of Americans uniting together for our common good. He has demonstrated determination to avoid attacking his opponents using "dirty politics." And it was Barack who called a truce with Hillary, despite the fact that his ony response to Clinton's MLK comment was "It was ill advised" And it was, because any idiot who thinks that it was LBJ who made civil rights a reality, versus all those black and white people who marched, organized, boycotted, and even died, anyone who believes that it was not the inspiration of JFK with the actions of MLK, is simply a fool. LBJ did what he had to to quell the situation. Oh, wait, I know I know, all she said was it took a president to sign it into law.
Hillary Clinton has two terms as a US senator, and no other real political experience. She was a practicing lawyer. She has never been a professor of anything, let alone at an Ivy League. 4 + 4 = 8. Barack has more years in elected office than Hillary. How has Hillary ran her campaign
1. Use bill Clinton to attack barack at least once each day
2. Use very conservative black billionaires and congressman to bring up drugs and race(by repeating the medias message of race) to manipulate white voters emotions.
3. Sue to suppress the culinary union vote, perhaps as much as 60,000 suppressed votes. And then spread a media lie about illegal immigrants voting.
And has anyone read the new article from Time Magazine "
Obama's Varied Record" Google it! I promise that once you read it, you will understand why so many Americans are bouncing out of their chairs hoping that Obama will be the next president.
Here's to a new future for America, and for all of the American people.
But that's just where you have it wrong. Barack is not a greenback, that is just what Hillary wants you to beleive. Go read the article by Time Magazine "Obama's Varied Record" It is an entire article about Obama's political experience, and the years he spent in grass roots community work.
It will impress you, and you will realize why so many Americans are behind him.
I was borderline between Hillary and Obama and now after the debate and this horrible cheapshot, I'm moving toward Obama. They asked for a strength and weakness. Hillary avoided the question as if she's perfect. I appreciate Obama's honesty. OBAMA 2008!!!! I will be so proud of you, our leader Mr. President OBAMA
To Unknown whoever you are. Show me prove that Obama study the koran. For your information Obama is a christian. You don't seem to be very intelligent so i would advise you to do a little more reading before you come online and criticize a man that you know little about. Where did you get your information from? Obama is a uniter and a peace maker and being is supporter i will say i have to be what he would want us all to be. A good role model. I strongly advise you to do some more reading on the matter. Go to you tube and watch tuesday's debate in Navada, he answered the question thourouly when he was asked about is religion. Please do some research. Vote Obama 08.
Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
Hillary, dear? A good manager is only as good as the people that support him. One would think that the President could afford the luxury of a person at their side that keeps them abreast? Or are you too much of a control freak to allow this for yourself in office? Hillary? Enough, please? You are beginning to sound like the teacher's pet of days gone by. Enough. When exactly did you and your husband become so............well, stupid acting?
Bernie Moore-Knowles
Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
Up date, about Hillary Clinton concerning the debate Reported by Fox News from the White House stated that when Hillary was putting
down President Bush about going to the Middle East which was concerning the O PEC oil she had talk about doing the same thing and also her statements she had made were all wrong in other words Hilliary did'nt know what she was talking about. also Fox News reported that the white house speaker said that Hilliary Clinton is so eager to be elected she would say anything.. Every one who said Hillary Clinton was good. Think again..
The way Democrat are arguing who is better-Clinton or Obama, thay must as
well vote for Ronney. He has better of then either Clinton or Obama,
as he has better experience and better vocally then any Democrat. The most im portant thing the Democrat should be thinking who has the better chance of
winning the Presidency, Clinton or Obama ,form the Republican's candidate. It is no use winning the candidacy if the Democrat loses the Presidency. So wake
up you Democrat. Think of long term than short term argument.
I think that her comments are very valid. The crucial role of the president does not revolve around being an inspirational speaker. The role must be held by someone that has the leadership skills to "manage" the country. Obama would make a great "Vice President" for Hillary, however, he is not prepared for the leader role at this time. I want my president to have first hand experience, great idea's, and the power to implement those ideas. I think we all can agree that Hillary holds those very important traits.....
Hillary 08'
Someone made a good point about Obama's honesty here - it is refreshing. Edwards gave a similarly refreshing answer to the gay marriage question at one of the debates - even though I don't agree with his stance, it was nice to hear someone say "I'm struggling with it". Anytime someone asks Hilary what a weakness of hers is she turns it into some sickeningly backhanded compliment for herself with answers that read like "my biggest fault is that I care so much" and "Well Blitz, I can't really name one thing I'm not good at, but I know I'm ready to lead this nation..." It just screams phony when I wish more candidates had more faith in the American voting public.
Clinton tell us what you are going to over or do to change USA to a better place in this world.
Obama does talk about you but what he is ready to do for the people of USA so both of you we got your records so puts your points to us then come the time to vote we will choose who ever we see capable to provide leadership and deliver to our needs
I believe the American people know what is good for them. Having closely read about American politics from the days of George Washington, OBAMA is the best is of all the candidates for "08 election. I am a Nigerian.
I sincerely think it's high time Mrs. Clinton started minding her business. If I remember vividly this same woman said something about "politics of personal destruction" at this beginning of this campaign. Whatever happened to the this? I guess she's forgotten about what she said since she always concerned about criticizing others comments. As for Mr Clinton, you completely lost the respect of most Americans (at least mine) whenever you stooped so low to criticize Obama in front the the audience, hold on, who's running for the Presidency? You (3rd term) or your wife, Hillary. Please drop the mic., and let your wife do the talking.
You guys need to chill out. We need an honest man. Bold enough to admit his weaknesses and give straight talks to the American people. You can attend all the talk shows in the world (Tyra Banks etc), and grant as much interviews as possible. We all know the truth and that's exactly what we are standing for.
GO OBAMA!
America needs a doer, not a poser like Obama. We don't need another 'show horse' – vs. a work horse. The fabric that Obama is cut from may be more ornate and tasteful than G.W.Bush, but ultimately, it's the same faulty pattern in the vein of not-ready-for-prime-time!
As for you 18-20 year olds, go pop your pimples and read some books for a change.
Hillary will be another President Jimmy Carter, making out the schedule for the use of the White House swimming pool.
Hillary and Bill Clinton's time in the White house was during a much different, much easier time in our country's history than the next eight years will be.
I think the voters realize that Hillary's claim to experience was that she had only some experience and that it was during that much different, much easier period.
It is not all that relevant to the difficult next eight years. Her time has come and gone.
Crowley, even as a reporter adds to her article of today : "There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style."
Hillary fell into what I think was a well-conceived trap set by the Obama campaign.
Not only have I been impressed by the speech and message delivered by Obama, I have been impressed by the way his organization has run the campaign tactically.
A year ago all the pundits said that Clinton had a spectacularly strong and experienced campaign, that Bill and Hillary would rarely if ever make tactical mistakes, and that Obama's campaign was inexperienced and naive. What a reversal in the last year, just like in the polls and elections.
IRON MY SHIRT
Hilary has lots of experience with her marriage, that is what America needs to keep their husbands safe from other women. All women should vote for Hillary so that their husbands don't do it out with their employees.
Hillary is right. The truth about Obama came from his own mouth. What more do people want? Hillary Clinton is a very organized manager and we don't have to ask her that question because it shows!
Hillary is right. You need the vision to inspire AND the knowledge of the issues in order to be a strong president. Obama has an edge on her on the most abstract of inspirational ideas, I think, but not by much, and she's ahead of him on more concrete inspirational ideas about the economy, health care, foreign policy, education, etc. . And in terms of the ability to deal with the enormous complexities, Hillary is unbelievably knowledgable – in a class by herself. Without the knowledge, you won't be nearly as effective. Bush had the vision of freedom, here and abroad, but look how at how miserably he failed for lack of knowledge and reliance on his handlers. Think about how he handled the war and how he handled FEMA, and how blacks and whites suffered as a result. Hillary's simply got what it takes to right the ship.
Some of you say – give Obama a year or two.
I say this – give Hillary a term or two – after she learns how to be a 'uniter'. She is not going to get anything done without bringing different parties together. That's what we have – gridlock. Just because she says 'we' doesn't mean we all fall in line.
The country needs to heal. She may be ready to be 'President' from day one, but We are not ready.
I will not vote for Hillary because she is divisive. She will hurt this country further. Bill Clinton has also become divisive. This has got to go. Both of them agreed to a truce yesterday, and here she is – attack Obama again. Hillary, tell me how are you going to unite people if you are going to attack them and putting them down? It also tells me something else. You don't keep your word very well.
Obama has changed the landscape. Before, we kind of accept that politics are divisive and feel sick in the stomach as we watch these ads that attack the other candidates more than offer anything of their own. But since Obama emerge, we demand a leader to also have the skill of bring people together.
Silly Hillary... focus on your own issues, please. There's plenty of garbage that has spilled out of her mouth that Obama has just let slide. I believe he has an understanding of what's important and what's not important; what makes and impact and what leads to lame-duck status.
To question his managerial style because he admits that he's talented at delegating work that he doesn't necessarily need to keep track of on his own is to waste our time and lessen one's chances of winning over my vote.
OBAMA 08!
So what I am hearing is that Hillary herself (and Bill) will run the whole show??? That is not how EVEN a business is run.
"After you set the goals and you give the speeches, you go back to the White House and you start holding people accountable and you want to know what they’ve done today to help the American people," added Clinton. "You’ve got to take on this government, you’ve got to run this government, you can’t leave it to others.
"You can't leave it to others" ???? That does not make any sense even in the basic sense of running anything.
Hillary your out of here.
Bring people together who have intelligence and focus on different issues to accomplish the goals of the President for the people of the USA. OBAMA '08
I also see why Obama does not attack everytime she does...why lower himself to Hillary? The people are tired of this. Hillary (and Bill) are very angry and scared, as well they should be. GO OBAMA
This is funny coming from Hillary and her 35 years of experience. You have not held office but for 8 years so where is all this experience coming from? I don't think you can count the time you were the wife of a politician as "experience". You didn't even have a security clearance when he was in office, so how much did you really know about what was going on? Tagging along on overseas trips won't classify as foreign policy experience either. I was a Hillary fan but I have been totally put off by her the past few months. Stop riding the coat tails of your husband!
Some of the best managers I know had the worst desks. But they could tell you everything going on in the company and where every piece of paper was located. Get over the small stuff. If I have the choice between a sloppy desk but universal healthcare, hmmmmm, okay healthcare won out!
What executive experience Hillary had? Did Bill Clinton need experience to win the governorship or the presidency? Anyone who is accused of inexperience should take a page from the Billary's book of spins. Whatever Billary do now is just for themselves. A third/fourth term of Presidency. The chance to make history is intoxicated to them and they will do anything, dirty or not, to get it.
I think it would be interesting if people put their ages next to their posts. I for one would enjoy the information regarding what age bracket is influenced by whom.
I am 54 by the way.
To: TOM DAVIE
First I am 47 years old. Second, we do not know how she will run the White House, she has never been a President before. Believe it not. Third, we are not voting for Bill Clinton and his history on economics, Hillary is the one who is running and Bill Clinton is not the only one with the understanding and knowledge to deal with our economics. It's interesting if you listen she is claiming her time in the White House, what did she really do ?and if she is going to claim – in the general sense of all the years in the White House with Bill – she then needs to take the bad with the good....or pull her records and prove to us what she has done. Unfortunately Hillary has a problem with trust with the American people.
Hillary Clinton is jumping at recent comments from rival Barack Obama during which the Illinois senator seemed to suggest he isn't exactly a details guy.
Another Obama manipulation..if he had been "PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS" he would have noticed that his own "staff" were fueling the race issue which he finally admitted to, after initially calling it ludicrous.All of you were trashing Hillary when she pointed it out, and she was absolutely right... All of you know exactly what Hilliary is talking about. She's not concerned about him losing paper work, but how we handle the small stuff, is a good demonstration of what it will be like when he gets into bigger issues with much bigger responsibility. pay attention to the details people and you'll see, that the media is purposely over-looking Edwards and Hillary because Obama is "their" man. Did you ever wonder why the media is shoving him in our faces..thiers only one thing that can get all major media to do that...it's money...one detail that no politician ever over-looks, including my choice, Hillary. I read Obama's website, as well as Edwards and Hillary's. She didn't get the honor or being one of the top 100 attorneys TWICE
because she's weak and unintelegent. Her list of accomplishments is huge. Atleast do your homework people...find out why the press are pushing for him. I did...and believe me you won't like what you find...
From the abundance of his heart,Obama spoke when he talked of being disoganised.Who does not have a weakness?Atleast he spoke the truth and thats the difference between him and Hillary C.She does not look real before my eyes when it comes to answers about topics.Its only people with bad mind will run down somebody for speaking the truth and absolve the other that tried not to speak the truth for fear of condenmnation.The Clintons think that the white house is theirs for ever.Let Chealsea start warming up after Hillary.
One thing I'm happy about, whomever the next president might be , it won't be GW!!
Can we all agree with that? Impeach both Bush and Cheney so that one can't pardon the other....
Hillary is right; you can not just say "I want to inspire you' and then go on to something else; you need to check out the results of your inspiration. Ideas without any results are wasted.
I DON'T TRUST WOLF BLITZER AND THE OTHERS IN CNN ABOUT THIS ELECTION.tHEY FAVOUT HILLARY MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE.THEY ALL ARE BIASED.
i have always loved the clitons for their die hard attitude but immediately my barrack came on board i knw where my loyalties lie what i would really likeis for clinton to stop talking about all the bad tins baacck has done or his wrong policies and talk about what she cando for her country .i am a nigerian but am so involved inthis election that istay upall nite to watch cnn.
OBAMA IS THE BEST
LOVE YOU TO PIESCES
Obama & Clinton?
Weel, its pretty self explanatory, Clinton needs the same old game, and We Americans knows it all.
Am proud of OBAMA, he his a Magic Negro.
Go OBAMA
Am a white man, and never support a black man in any politics activities before, But OBAMA Convince me... Thank You.. Go OBAMA
Howard
You Obama people are blinded by his pretty words and can't see the truth or the facts, I would really like to know how many of you actually saw the debate, because if you actually saw it and if you had any intelligence you would realize that Hilary is smaller and more focused on the issues.
And yes management is very important in business, government and in anything else in life for that matter. The fact that you people don't believe it is just confirms your ignorance.
hillary–just keep it up. people are tired of your attacks–for someone who is supposed to be so smart you're acting pretty stupid. obama is way smarter than you. keep attacking please so that you will not get the nomination–go barack
What experience does she have again? that of her Husband!!! People we are electing Hillary and not BIll don´t get it confuse!!
O.k since u want to think Bill = Hillary and start talking about Experince,let me tell u that Honesty,Loyalty and excellence. We need a president with Integrity,somebody witha a vision and positivity. Hillary or Billary does not have these qualities.
First u look in the Camera and declare:,, i didn´t have sex with this woman,, and then say what after....
this makes me know these people are power hungry people. She ain´t honest people.
I work in high management and during our interviews,we avoid people who sound perfect because they are mostly not teachable;and that´s where Hillary fits.My CEO is a leader who gives direction and guidelines.It´s not his job to clean his desk or to know where x files arefound at the time x. He has a team of loyal people who carry on with the vision and make sure that the people under them understand what the CEO needs.
My CEO knows how to inspire us.Please do understand that a person who has many corporations and issues under him doesn´t have time for details. From time to time he makes sure that his collaborators know he cares about them.
Hilary should just focus on her campagn and leave obama, she is fighting dirty that is not what Americans need now, they have a president that does that already
Hillary's biggest weakness is her fear of losing to Obama. She is being dominated by this fear and is focused only on herself, not the American people. Everyone please take a minute to ask yourselves why are the Clintons SOOOO ANGRY. They say they have nothing against Obama and Bill Clinton said he admires him, but they talk like they want to kill him. If Hillary, Bill, and the Hillary Camp are so confident about Hillary's ability to be president why is it that they feel the need to pull all these underhanded stunts against Obama? The Bible says jealousy is as cruel as the grave and the Clintons really prove this is true.
Like others, I also want to know exactly what is all this experience Hillary claims to have? She always talks about 35 years...35 years of what??? She was a lawyer and first lady and now a Senator... What experience??? Think about it people! 35 years of Hillary Clinton and still NO CHANGE!!!!
Do we really want another cold, calculating, stubborn, bull headed, fake, my way or no way President ...because this is what Hillary Clinton offers. Any vote for Hillary will be regreted. I was planning to vote Democratic regardless of who won the Democratic ticket, but after all the underhanded things Hillary has done in the race I have decided not to vote at all if she is the Democratic nominee. She is CRUEL and I can't vote for her.
We should all cherrish the right to "opine" freely without the fear of being incastrated (jailed) for expressing our subjective opinion. May the best candidate with better vision and inspiration for America's future win!
I could never vote for Hillary Clinton after seeing how ruthless she has gotten.
I probably would'nt have voted for her anyway, but after she arrogantly stated
that LBJ did more for civil rights than Dr. Martin Luther King ever did, she showed her true color.
Obama has proven he can lead people!!! if only u can check his biograpy.
this what Ghandi said : ,, first they ignore you,then they ridicule you,then they fight you,then you win,,
and this is just true!! i wonder if Clintons have nothing elses to do as to wait day long for an Obama Comment and then criticize it. Are they so bored?
Whether u like him or not, FACTS speaks for themselves. This is a gentle man with a relatively poor background who is inspiring America today. No One knew of Obama. But today his name is constantly on Clinton´s mouth.
I wish u could take some time out and visit his web site and read about what he has to offer.
There´s a lot u can learn from this guy!!! He is saying
YES i don´t have the experience according to your standards
YES i´m not perfect
But i can motivate YOU,i can Inspire YOU that´s why Young people identify with him.
Young people are fade up with all knowing,all perfect 60er people who don´t want to listen to them,to their problems but are only interested to put loads on them.
Well, Ms Clinton needed some one to pass her a note two seconds before she commented on the Pakistani election. She suggested Musharaf should not stand, and wow – these elections are parliamentary and not presidential – therefore Musharaf is not eligible anyway. Shows how little she learned in her manufactured 35 years of service.
THE TRUTH BE TOLD!!!
If she truly read the NIE report....she wouldn´t have voted for the Iraq war.
She voted because she wanted to satisfy the interests of the Lobby groups behind her.
People....do some reading!!!
Common´
Hillary keeps harping on Obama's inexeperience. What is her experience either
in public or private life. The only exeperience she has is being married to an
adulterous and sex-maniac former president. Does this experience qualify you to
be president?
Infact if Hillary wins the democratic race, it will republicans in the white house in 2009.
george
To Mr Rudy Tiggs, Riverside, CA How many years do you suggest we play this same tune Clinton/Bush? Do you know that Hillary was given the assignment to fix Health Care while her husband was president.
You know that single functions are general exercised by single cell organisms, not Humans. For 8 years one responsibility, ...don't worry she will fix it, this time as president because she has nothing else to worry about.
Here is my beef with all of this, - I voted for Clinton , twice - and that is enough, the greed is incredible, change is generally introduced by a new comer, not an old dog.
You want something to change, well who can bring that change someone who has 35 years of experience on that same broken system, who has indirectly been placed in the highest position of that same system and changed nothing or an individual that made the choice to fight for his state instead of choosing to be a millionaire, Obama had a choice and he chose the people of his state. Now he chooses us the people of this country.
Obama/Edwards for the white house!
I'm really tired of hearing so much discussion about Hillary's experience. Being married to the president does not count as your own personal experience. So let's be honest about the experience issue. The 35 years of experience that Hillary touts at every opportunity is 35 years of work experience period. Her only political experience has been her years in the Senate. Does Obama have fewer years of experience than Hillary? Yes, of course he does. But that is not a big deal. She has lived longer.
I agree with Senator Obama's view regarding the qualities that a true leader should have. In my opinion, every leader has her/his own strengths but the bottom line is: can that leader govern a country? Can that leader empower the people so they can help him/her make a difference? or should a leader worry about being detail oriented? Amazing! I cannot believe this is a topic of concern.
Senator Obama is right; Mr. George Bush is a well organized President, he is always on time and is detail oriented. Has that skill helped him as the leader of this great nation?
It is perfectly clear that Senator H. Clinton is looking for windows of opportunity to get Senator Obama to react and fall on his face; but that 'poker chief' is too smart to fall for it. Senator Obama impresses me. A young, intelligent, eloquent, down to earth and sincere man can make the 'experienced' Hillary and the rest of the candidates worry.
My vote goes to Senator Obama; the creator of the topic for this 2008 Presidential campaign: CHANGE ~ Si se puede! Yes, we can!
In the debate Hillary made Obama and Edwards look like newbies. She had a plan for every issue. I dont know if this is good or bad but it makes Obama and Edwards look weak.
Chris Matthews was kissing her ass after the debate and that shows she kicked everyones ass.
Sorry Hillary haters but she is making your boys look like newbies.
Hillary consistently gets it wrong.
She voted for the war. Obama stated he's not against war but he is against dumb wars. She voted for the bankruptcy law change. Obama didn't. He saw throught the merk.
We can't afford to go through another 8 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton madness. THe world can't take it.
Don't believe the hype people..
Everytime Obama supporters start to diss Hillary for what she says, you are a reflection on the canidate you 'HOPE' to have in the highest office in the land, and every blog on every news website has the same tone, you all sound childish. Granted most people on the web are young, and you certainly reflect it. Until your 'Obama' is perfect in his run for this office, and there is proof that he isn't, why don't you try to improve your image and help your canidate. OH, THATS RIGHT, OBAMA USES YOU TO SLING THE MUD, SO HE CAN SAY 'HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT'.
In future it means that YOU can not criticize Obama for anything else you know what you will called RACIST. During Bush administration most used word was Terrorist. If Obama gets ahead it is going to be racist. It is shame that one can't even criticize anyone.
Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.
Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
The Illinois Democrat likes to quote something Bill Clinton once said: "The truth is, you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Mine is rooted in the real lives of real people, and it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."
After college, Obama moved to Chicago for a low-paying job as a community organizer. He worked with poor families on the South Side to get improvements in public housing, particularly the removal of asbestos.
"Nobody else running for president has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help people," said Jerry Kellman, who first hired Obama as a community organizer.
Obama also fought for student summer jobs and a program to keep at-risk children from dropping out of school. More importantly, say those who worked with Obama, he showed people how to organize and confront powerful interests.
"He had to train residents to stand up for their own rights," said former organizer Loretta Augustine-Herron, who was part of Obama's Developing Communities Project.
Obama left that job to get a law degree. Afterward, he returned to Chicago and ran Project VOTE. The organization recruited hundreds of registrars to sign up new voters, particularly within the city's black population. Registration jumped nearly 15 points between the 1992 primary and the general election.
The registration wave was credited with making Carol Moseley Braun the first black female senator and helping Bill Clinton carry Illinois in his first presidential race. It also got insiders talking about Obama as a political candidate.
Obama then spent several years focusing on the law, both as an attorney at a small firm specializing in civil rights and as a lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago.
As an attorney, he was on the team that successfully sued the state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law. Obama also worked on case of a whistle-blower who lost her job after exposing waste and corruption in a medical research project. The whistle-blower ended up with a $5 million settlement.
Obama was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, when Democrats were in the minority. He proposed hundreds of new laws, including universal health care, tougher gun control and expanded welfare, but saw most of them spiked by Republican leadership.
He did have some successes, though — particularly in passing legislation sharply restricting the gifts that Illinois politicians could accept from lobbyists. Illinois has notoriously weak government ethics laws, and the Gift Ban Act was the first major new restriction since the Watergate era.
Obama also helped set up Illinois' "KidCare" program that provided health care to children in families that did not qualify for Medicaid.
John Bouman, president of the Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law, said Obama's work helped make the program more consumer-friendly. He also said Obama was often willing to give up credit for the legislation if that helped win Republican support.
"It tells you something that as a relatively junior member in the minority party, he was an important negotiator," Bouman said.
When Democrats gained a majority in the Senate, Obama's political mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, gave him high-profile assignments, including two contentious issues involving police — videotaped interrogations and racial profiling.
Police weren't happy about recording their interrogations of murder suspects or having to study racial bias in traffic stops. Initially, they opposed both pieces of legislation.
But Obama made clear that something was going to pass with or without their support. Ultimately, police groups endorsed both bills and they won unanimous approval in the Senate.
Obama was generally regarded as an effective and practical, although decidedly liberal, state lawmaker. One of his Republican colleagues was so wowed that he has appeared in an Obama campaign ad, but others aren't impressed by his legislative record.
"I would say it was run of the mill, honestly," said Sen. Christine Radogno, R-Lemont, who entered the legislature at the same time Obama did.
Obama was a part-time state senator in that he served in the Illinois legislature at the same time he practiced law. He became a state lawmaker in 1997, four years ahead of Hillary Clinton's entrance into elected office, as U.S. senator.
When Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he said he wished to get things done rather than grab headlines, and cited Hillary Clinton as the sort of workhorse he wanted to be.
He teamed with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to study the dangers of nuclear proliferation and pass legislation meant to keep nuclear material from falling into the hands of terrorists.
Obama also joined with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., after Hurricane Katrina to improve oversight of federal spending.
And he shared billing with a Republican presidential hopeful when he joined Arizona Sen. John McCain in sponsoring legislation that called for sharp, mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. The effort failed.
Vito – I read the article "Obama's Varied Record" and it truly shows who has the better experience. Some people are doers and some are braggers that havent done much but take credit for things. I highly recommend this article.
You Barack supporters need to get your facts right. Barack had never taken a stance on anything important in congress, and instead votes as "present" so that no one can bring up his record. Obama believes in change, but can any of you actually tell me what his policies are? There is no substance behing anything he says, and if you actually read his plans you will see. We in Mass voted for "change and hope" in Deval Patrick, and a year later he has done nothing he has promised. Instead he got an expensive car, spent state money on his wife, and left the state to campaign for Obama. Hope can only get you so far, and it got us nowhere in MA. So instead of voting for someone you just like, vote on the issues.
How gave a honest answer? Who gave the answer you wanted to hear?
Obama 08'
I may be missing something, but after the catastrophic decisions of the present Administration, we surely do not need another President relying on advisers.
The next President will need to be hands-on. On top of the normal daily duties, she/he must repair the damages done by the present Administration.
Must bring back the three Branches of Government to their Constitutional status, strip the the Vice President Office of any Czarist desire to "invent" new Presidential powers.
Will also have to bring back the Economy on an even keel.
In short: a monumental repair work has to take place.
Obama is truly inspirational, but for now there is a need for a hands-on President.
Barack will be a fantastic Presidential Candidate around 2017 when he will have more MATURITY maturity and EXPERIENCE!!!
How about some truth Hilary? You just decided to run for president a year ago! and that war vote of yours was just like opposing the war, wasn't it.!
We have enough of the deceit and misconceptions for 8 years now and you would only be a continuation of it.
Can you people out there in Nevada hear me? Pleeeeaassee Can you good people put a stop to Hillary once and for all. This woman says she has been around for 35yrs why the heck she did'nt do something sooner. Just stop the lies alreadyHillary. Enough is enough. I still cannot pay my bills including my wife's health insurance. You can never relate to the middle class.
Forgive Obama for giving a candid answer. Hilary wouldnt know anything about that would she? He tells us his greatest weakness is his occasional disorganization, and her response? She cares too much. Can she please just put a sock in it? I would never even consider voting for her.
Tom Davies, again you need to be reminded that Bill Clinton is not running for President and he will not be "her" vice President.
The subject here is organization skills of the two CANDIDATES and one has the guts to admit that he sometimes is disorganized and the other one jumps all over it as it appears that he is showing a crack in his armor.
One must ask, why did she NOT read the NIE report BEFORE making the BIGGEST decison a politician can make?
She now says that she had "people brief her on the report", whom exactly?
If she is so hands on as she makes it seem, why did she not vet an $850,000 bundler (Hsu) or the asian dishwashers who were giving up 10 percent of the yearly salary while living at PHONY addresses?
Why did it take so long for the Rose law firm papers to show up on a nightstand (after two years) covered with HER fingerprints?
Here's what the New York Times reported on March 17, 1992: "Hillary Clinton said today that she did not earn 'a penny' from state business conducted by her Little Rock law firm and that she never intervened with state regulators on behalf of a failed Arkansas savings and loan association. . . "
Records will show that she did, in fact, represent Madison before the state securities department. After the revelation, she says, "For goodness sakes, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks."
Number of times Hillary Clinton says "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50. Number of paragraphs in this statement: 42.
Doesn't sound too organized to me, sounds more like a lying, conniving politician that will do and say ANYTHING to gain power.
Mrs. Clinton, what was that little realastate deal you and your husband had, that went belly-up. I guess you had hands on with that.
i was an unorganized person myself(which is basically what barack obama stated about himself) and untill i got to the point that it messed up all my life i didn't really realize it was that bad. but it was. and i honestly do'nt think that someone who's gonna have to get another person to do all the minor(if u could call it minor) tasks for him, should be elected a president. a leader has to have a good hold of what he's operating. i'm really sure about the other candidates but obama doesn't look like a president to me
the facts are shes a self made leader that knows it does take hands on ,you people who dont think so probly voted for bush ,while he was out front watering his flowers his backyard was on fire, you better get a grip on someone who has this countrys issues at hand and not some dream land, like the past 7, go figure it out!!! nice looking people who talk about how wonderfull life could be, are not in reallity, its a ruthless hard ball arena, if you can survive this far in the goverment ,add that your a women, you better grow up and understand what it calls for to be president of this country,your so used to having an idiot in office you think a nice talking guy going or can change things in a few mo? wake up!! it took yrs to get this screwed up it will take yrs more to fix it, hrc is the only person who is that dedicated to all of this country, obama would ge lost in this position, give him a few yrs and see where he stands then, if hes still here and has fought tooth and nail on his position then elect him, but for now we need repair, that knows how its run, you dont call a plummer to fix a broken leg no matter how nice he is,
Probably voting for Hillary in the Primary
I say probably because the Democrats have so many excellent choices.
Hillary is a throwback to the old way of doing things. Is she going to micro-manage? Any CEO will tell you that's an awful way to manage.
We need new ideas, new management style, new blood!
Her continuous Obama-bashing only serves to increase her own negativity ratings.
ABH
I think people need to wake up and realize there are other candidates running for president besides these two who seem to keep getting all the media attention. Edwards is a real voice for change in this country. He has experience and he has the fight in him to fight for change. After running last term and not being able to get the nomination and accepting the bid for VP, he's back again, fighting even harder. The problem is that no one notices because CNN (and every other national media station) is too busy reporting about stupid spats between Hillary and Obama.
As much as I think it's fantastic that a woman is running for President, I don't think Hillary is right for the job. She's politics as usual and as someone stated before, if she gets it then it's been Bushes and Clintons since 1988. Is that what this country really needs? Would this be the change that everyone wants and desparately needs?? And I like Obama, but I think he's too inexperienced. He'd make a great VP for John Edwards and then could run for President in 2016.
Edwards is the man for the job and because the media isn't covering him much, no one seems to know that he's there. But he is there and he wants to fight for change in America. He has the passion to help move change forward. Please everyone, stop arguing over stupid things that the media creates and focus on who really is the best person for the job. Good to see there are a few Edwards supporters making comments here.
EDWARDS 08, EDWARDS 08, EDWARDS 08!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey stop the bashing here and there,we all know what type of CEO Hillary can make....one that cant work without good old Billy and both have all the stock shaking scandals from Iraq war to white water.Obama is the man we only hope that the Electrol Commission of Kenya (ECK) wont be hired to oversee the American vote
If for any reason there appears to be a take away from this CNN political ticker, I think it is the fact that Obama comes accross as a REAL person, as for Hillary she's assuming divinity here – absolute perfection.
I certainly don't want an "Angel" running the US government, we need to know how real these candidates are, NOW, and not later. If any thhing, Obama has made that clear to all Americans. Confessing to mistakes of drug use publicly – that's character! If I recall accurately, a certain Clinton lied even under oath – how shameful!
My advice to Hillary, "Distance yourself from Obama! The more people measure you up against him, the more they discover how much more Obama outshines you".
Hillary would be better off picking on Kucinich or some other fellow.
It's just like a toy dog yapping away at a St. Bernard or a mule trying to make a fun of a Clydesdale horse.
American people understand that Barack Obama's presidency will be a disaster. America will loose its position in the world. Franly speaking Americans may be enamored by Obama but to a foreigner he looks as a preacher without any concrete ideas and objectives. He already proved to be a novice almost to the point of being dumb when he made some remarks about Pakistan.
Did anybody else notice Hillary's quote at the end of the article?
"After you set the goals and you give the speeches, you go back to the White House and you start holding people accountable and you want to know what they’ve done today to help the American people"...
Isn't that exactly what Obama was saying?.. That he couldn't hold everyone's hand as president? That he would leave the details to those he would delegate to?
Obama has more experience in elected office than Hillary...
He has more "grass roots" experience dealing with communities that many of these candidates are afraid to even enter
He is honest about how he intends to approach the presidency, not being concerned with symantics.
OBAMA '08!
My vote will certainly go to the Republicans if HRC ever emerges as the DEM nominee because we do not need a leader like her
SHAME ON YOU CNN. ALL YOU POST IS CLINTON HATER POST THIS COMMENTS. IF YOU ALL PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAID THEN SHUT YOUR YOU KNOW WHAT.
People the devil is in details. I can come up with million things, ideas etc. the problem is to make them work. Doesn't america understand that presidents are engineers not philosophers. You cannot just give views on policy, education, healthcare etc. without making small changes, going into the details of these.
What's up with all the Hillary bashing without anything to substantiate what your saying? Other than all the media bashing, I seem to remember the last Clinton adminstration being a hell of a time for America... That wasn't by chance. Let's leave emotional responses out of this. And, what's so great about Obama being the "big picture" guy... Does no one remember the last "big picture" guy... George Bush??? Get a clue people, read between the lines and stop being so blinded by all the feel good crap out there. "Big Picture" is just an excuse to get people to vote for you when you admit your short on experience. Your blasting one political tactic and giving the farm away to another. Too much at stake here to be naive.
Hard to believe some of you will actually be allowed to vote...
I'm sick and tierd of 3 terms of bush and two terms of clinton and for sure not a third one.
Go OBAMA
The Obama/Bush "vision" approach to management is how we ended up with messes like FEMA – an incompetent agency with no standards of accountability!
Hillary '08!
For all those swooning over Obama's Harvard education:
Hillary Clinton was "valedictorian of her Wellesley class and chose Yale over Harvard Law School after a cocktail party run-in with a chauvinistic Harvard professor."
My God have mercy on us!, corporations would not hire Hillary since Clintongate, and that is probably why she is so desperate (both Clinton's for the White House), imagine the favors she owes for running, and the lies they told to convince special interest groups they would win. Barack is constantly getting death threats against his life and his family. Do you think anyone is threatening the Cllinton's. Hillary never answers a question with a straight answer, she acts like she is in court, and she is so transparent you see her trickery coming . The Clinton's do not have a strategy for helping us fix America, their plans are to get in the White House and have access to distribute hugh lots of funds to their backers and themselves. Barack plans to make our government transparent , so that we will know (not told) where are monies go, and how much. Hillary copying "Change" theme, she really lacks coping skills and esteem. We have plenty of women who would be great presidential material, Hillary is not such a woman, and her husband Bill...well we know, we all know. So voting for them means (take a cue from the Judge who will put OJ in jail) either you are arrogant or ignorant or both!!!.
Hillary is a seducer. She's seducing the people of America into a major trap. They are obsessed with the white house . Eight years were not enough for them they want more. As an independent, I will make sure to vote for a Republican and suggest that to all my friends to do the same.
Bill anb Hillary, why didn't you do something about Osama Bin laden, knowing that he attacked us at the same world trade center in 93, our embassy in Kanye and our USS Cole Army ship. All these attacks happened under your watch. Why should we think you can keep us safe now.
A lady president would be great, but not this one. Please not this one. Send in Obama. I at least feel at ease when he is at the helm. For some reason, and I can't explain why, I get the feeling that Clinton doesn't have the best interest of our nation as a motivating factor for running for the presidency. I honestly think Obama has that as the strongest driving force behind him. Most importantly, Obama knows why he is running and is quite sure of himself. On the other hand, Clinton is unsure as to what she should portray herself as. Clinton: you could do all the tricks in the world but deep down I cannot vote you for because intuitively I feel like I would be doing this nation a great disservice if I did so. Thank you for all your service so far and I hope you have an amazing career in the Senate, but the moment belongs to Obama. Let him lead this nation now. You will have plenty of time later to take on the Republicans.
After reading the comments from the general public, it is a shame that the people use this media to take cheap shots at their leaders. It would be far better if you show the rest of the world that you can demonstrate smart debates on the websites.
Knowledge is power
I cannot take another, Liar, too uptight, too corporate, too much business suit idiot in the White House, Thank you. Cant vote for Hillary because she can't even keep her family in check how can she keep America on path? Her being the wife of Bill hot pants Clinton doesnt make her more experience than anyone else in this race, next thing u know Chelsey Clinton thinks she is experience to be President.
All you Hillary fans, you are just basing your vote on she is a woman big deal Im a woman too, bu hillary got no balls, shes a fruitcake, she copy all the candidates, she has no plan, her best plan is to attach, she thought this race was going to be easy because people would look at OBAMA as another Perm gone bad Sharpton, did she ever get kicked in the butt. haha
Cant Vote for Edwards, the man havent said a word throughout the campaign, What are his plans, what is he gonna do, Good lord man speak up, u need a micrphone or something.
OBAMA 08
Bottom line is Hillary will never be president, she wont get my vote and she will rally the republicans, a vote for Hillary in the primaries is a vote for the Republicans in November. If she is on ticket in 08 Im writing in Gore
and my wife is voting republican. Obama is honest and electable in a general election.
Someone here earlier said it well. Hillary's managing abilities would make her a great VP or, in my opinion, Senate Majority Leader. However, the office of President calls for the vision and leadership that a CEO provides. I don't think the American people see this as a major deficiency in Obama. If our President can have a tendency to engage in sexual behavior with his interns, than our President can certainly lose a paper or two.
WHO CARE ABOUT HILLARY....SHE IS A LIAR AND A FAKE....SHE WOULD SELL HER SOUL TO THE DEVIL IF IT MEANT SHE WOULD GET ELECTED.....SHE DISTORTS OTHERS RECORDS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T RUN ON HER OWN...
"Hillary Clinton has sponsored 350 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 304 haven’t made it out of committee (Very Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers)."
SHE IS ONE ACCOMPLISH POLITICIAN....AND HER RECORDS SHOWS IT.
I guess I should not be surprised at all of the Obama supporters. Let's just look at the spin talk of a another politician and what this country has turned into. His name, Geroge W Bush. He talked his talk and got elected. So all you Obama followers, keep following the pied piper and the rest of us will support the best candidate, Hillary!!
It will be interesting to see how Senator Clinton manages the fact she has been caught by Senator Obama in the national poll.
She's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for issues now. Wow.
That being said, I think it's refreshing how honest Obama is. Tell us how it is – admits to a real human flaw, like not being naturally organized, and doesn't play that "try to make it sound positive" game like Edwards and Hillary played.
In my opinion that expresses such real human leadership. It's just what the country needs and hasn't seen in a long time – maybe ever.
Hillary know not what she is doing. in her clear thought, she would act in a respectfull way to fellow Dems. Hillary could be a great asset to Dems. we need Dem Votes.
Obama Offers a mesage of Hope, not beliefs of fears. The democratic turn out has been motivated by his message. Even the women of N.H. came out to vote for Hillary and Obama, because of his Message.
bill clinton had ten years experience as a STATE governor before becoming president. Obama has 13+ years as a state and a FEDERAL senator. this experience talk is ridiculous.
After reading these comments, the phrase "divided we fall" comes to mind. Instead of attacking Hillary or any Democrat for that matter, shouldn't we be focusing on why a Democrat should be elected verses a Republican? You can support Obama without tearing down Hillary and vice-versa. We're never going to win the general election with all this in-fighting...
AMAZING TRUTH:
If Hillary, Bill, and the Hillary Camp are so confident about Hillary's ability to be president why is it that they feel the need to pull all these underhanded stunts against Obama? The Bible says jealousy is as cruel as the grave and the Clintons really prove this is true
I don't understand how any can still listen to what Mrs. Clinton is saying. Every time she says something, she is either bashing Obama, or speaking rhetoric that we've all heard too many times by now.
I'm not saying Obama is the best thing since sliced bread either. Although he speaks with intelligence, he doesn't seem to have a firm grasp on what he is talking about.
I personally don't like any of the candidates, and I don't believe in voting for someone I don't want. I will choose not to vote in this election. I stopped caring when I realized that my vote doesn't really matter.
Remember Florida '04? Yea, your vote doesn't really matter...
1. Use bill Clinton to attack barack at least once each day
2. Use very conservative black billionaires and congressman to bring up drugs and race(by repeating the medias message of race) to manipulate white voters emotions.
3. Sue to suppress the culinary union vote, perhaps as much as 60,000 suppressed votes. And then spread a media lie about illegal immigrants voting.
Hilary, please see a shrink soon. Your defensive mechanisms are breaking down and soon you will be too! Your facial expressions during the debate was that of a woman who is angry, scared, and envious. Truth is not your strong suit.
Clinton has 8 years of legislative experience and Obama has 11. Clinton has refused to release her white house records for every one to see. All this will come to light if she manages to become the nominee. The republican party will bring out all her lack of experience, voting records as well as demand for her white house records. Obama is definetely more experience than Clinton based on their records. Clinton thinks she is entitled to this based on her husband achievement. Bill is not running and she should run based on her records. Hillary release your white house records
Any good leader knows that your job is to steer the ship. You put the right people in the positions below you, and let them do their work.
That's what Obama was saying.
It would be an impossible task for a leader to be involved in the minutia of the day-to-day work and decision making. The higher up the chain you go the more big picture your view needs to be. That's true with any hierarchical organizational structure, be it a Fortune-500 company, a football coaching staff, or the US government.
That's what Obama was saying. He's not hands-off, but he knows where is place is and what his role is. He's saying that he lets his people do their jobs and trusts that they give him the right information that he needs, when he needs it.
It sounds like Hillary will lose the forest through the trees.
LOOK!!!!!!
This is not a family tree of the WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!
Hillary is not a president, she has been in the WH since 1968 I don't think she truly know what change is for America. She could only keep thr circle of trouble going for us. Continue to pay corporate, and friend for their help in scandals. Let's not forget the things she was in a scandal herself. Can we say Watergate......
It is rather insulting that Hillary supporters seek to discredit Obama by accusing his supporters of being young and naive....
What's naive?
-thinking those "tears" form Hillary were real
-thinking she did not want and incite the race debate (what's the number one rule of attack politics, not to respond out of fear of escalation then why did Big Bill go on numerous "black" radio shows to respond to the mythical "attacks"
-Edwards and Clinton's responses to the "negative traits" question. At least Obama had the gull to be honest, Hillary/John both just said essentially "I care too much"...laughable....
Listen, I am still undecided. But, if I am a Hillary supporter I'd be more effective touting her more desirable voting instances and not continuing to draw such stark contrasts between Bush, Republicans, Edwards and Obama. While some of those contrasts may be quite legitimate, they certainly are not warranted. Folks know the differences, be stand-up and tell me what you are for and stop reminding me what you are against.
In summation- people are people. There are some good Dems, some bad Dems, some good Republicans, some bad, Some good Independents, some bad...just because the loudest folks in each party are the ones of least character does not mean that we should willingly abandon half of the electorate.
I find it interesting that people say Clinton should win the democratic nomination because of electability. Most people seem to agree that she can not be trusted and they do not really like her. Why would you want her to win the nomination?!?! I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!!!!! I DO NOT TRUST HER AND EVEN IF SHE SHOULD WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION SHE WILL NOT GET MY VOTE!! I would rather vote republican....
If people want change, then they have to take risks. Barack Obama may not have the experience that Clinton has in our current political sphere, but frankly, I see that as a BIG PLUS!!!
Hello, The Obama style ? Leave it, to the Experts. That's why you call them Experts. He hired very smart people to run for him, guys specialize in their own fields Economical Advisors Team A versus Team B. (Answer : Republcian John Mac cain)
I hope all the wonderful democrats and independants would come together so Hillary and Obama could come together and truly unite this party so we can dominate this election, remember folks we are ALL in this TOGATHER, Obama and Hillary are on the same team - OUR TEAM they both are 100000000 times better than ANY gop canidate.
Does anyone remember Bill Clinton's retort when asked about John Kerry when he was running for President; he said (about Kerry) "he's not afraid to be in a room full of people that know more about a subject than he does," well let's apply these words to Mrs. Clinton. Wanting to run everything, she would have to be the expert of everything (not) and we will be in the same situation we are currently in. I'd rather follow someone human, but with intellect, has admitted to making mistakes, and is truthful and humble. Mrs Clinton doesn't have any of these qualities. She will be laughed at, marginalized (not because she's a woman though, but because of the person she is) and disrespected by other countries and their leaders (just like we are because of our current president. Obama is the type of LEADER this country sorely needs.
I'm not sure why people are attacking Hillary for being a typical politician in a campain. Yes, I said politician and I believe there is nothing wrong with it, because this is politics. Obama is a politician just as much as Hillary, and from what I've seen of the last few days, he is not the saint people think him to be. He is using his supporters and people who hate Hillary Clinton for personal reasons that have nothing to do with the work that she has done for this country, especially for women and children. He plays nice so his supporters and Hillary-haters feel sorry for him and attack her because she is running a campaign. This is what politicians do, people. He stayed mum while people took Clinton's words out of context. He implied that she is a paper-pusher while failing to address his problem with organization.
It's all an effort to get your votes. Please wake up and face the facts that these are campaigns. Obama is not entitled to the nomination or the presidency any more than Hillary is entitled to a coronation.
As a Black woman, I never said, "I'm voting for Obama because he's Black." Frankly, I WAS excited about Hillary running and was planning on voting for her.
HOWEVER, after the way she and her husband have decided to take on a negative tone towards Senator Obama, color me completely turned off to her. My friends and relatives agree on one thing: She should have kept it about HER, not her opponents, and she has lost our votes.
BTW, Bill Clinton: You were NOT the First Black President; you were the first president to whom Black people could relate; we liked you. But, you blew it with your recent remarks about fairytales, and we see it as the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). IMHO, the biggest fairytale ever told came from YOU when you looked dead into the camera and said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" So, I suggest you stand in the background like a good candidate's spouse, keep your mouth shut, and keep your cigars to yourself!
Hello, The Hillary Style. So hard working ah, she aim to get A*. Clinton Economical Stimulus Pack is out already, she kept her sight on Long term and short term solution very fast workaholic women. So fast she move into Merrill Lynch, USB, Citibank Sovereign Wealth Funds arms by Asian Govt for greater transparency. She not tired hor ?? hello, go watch soccer. Recession will be harder and longer if she tinker with the Banks fundings (Answer: Republican John Mac cain)
One thing that is blatantly obvious is that Obama's supporters do not think of the world in realistic terms. The economy is going downhill, Iraq is a mess, NCLB has only made at-risk districts worse, and the list continues. Hoping for change with no experience and no real plan is not going to get it done. Obama could be a great President in about 8-9 years. He needs more experience. Americans need to quit focusing on the shell and see the substance that Hillary can provide.
What is Hillary Cliton speaking about running a government? Does she know that running a government comes with good judgemental decisions in the white house? Where did she leave her historic vote for the on going war? She did not make good decision at the time when American needed it on sending young men and women to Iraq. She recently gave President George Bush a go ahead to declear war on Iran. Are these good decision in running the white house for the American people. Give me a time, she need not remake history. She need to tell the true to the American people. After she is elected, she will down play the wrongs of the World like her husband did with Ruwanda in Africa. Has she forgotten that her Health Care plan in the 90s did not go anywhere in the country? What new can she do now when we speak of change?
Obama for president '08
I think Hillary is consistent and know what she said. no matter what, handling America is not like handling small company, its about the world. so we need the experience person who ready to run and know what America need NOW!!!
I'm a huge Obama suporter but I can't trash Sen. Clinton for what she's doing right now. She found a weakness and is going after it. It is not completely unreasonable to think that the president should be able to run the day to day ops. Some feel thats the job of a good COS, myself included. But you can't run for president by saying you will put a great staff in place on the 20th.
Chris
Hillary has ONCE AGAIN taken something Barack said and made it to fit HER plan- Talk about a need for CHANGE! Obama 08!
As an African American woman, when I look at Hilary all I see is the old Clinton baggage from Bill. I see no morals and same old lies!! For the past, 16 to 20 years we have had the same experience and where has that gotten us! War in Iraq!! Innocent lives lost! Foreclosures! Sinking economy! What else can possible happen? Why do you think Americans are hated so much? Look beyond the US and you will see the hate!! The president of the US is our only representation outside of the US. Everyone should think and see outside the box.
First Bush, then Clinton, then Bush and Bush. Are we about to add Clinton again?? No thanks, other candidates deserve a chance at the Whitehouse, lets see what other presidential candidate can do for Americans. After all, it cannot be any worse than what we are going through currently!!!
Go Obama 2008!!
"Hillary/Obama 08! Obama/? 2016
This is the best unbeatable ticket. pls dems don't mess this one up."
So, so true!
I hope we can pull it out.... without imploding over "race."
Does CNN ever report on any of the mistakes, criticisms that Obama makes? If you read CNN everyday it seems that Obama is the "flawless" candidate. The media are obviously hyperfocused on Hillary's imperfections rather than her strengths while they are blind to Obama's imperfections. This is the worst excuse for news I have ever seen. It's turning into the Jerry Springer show. People are entranced with Obama because he's new and inspiring. I can live with either candidate being elected, but I sure wish the media would do their job and find out who he is.
Experience ... how does wife of ex-president, one-term senator plus one year, no-communication skills and a record of mis-judgements sound like as 'experience' ? Crying for votes in a Primary may work (and that is NOT an exclusive female trade) but I don't think you can do that with the world leaders and our enemies.
Billary No Thank You.
As a Democrat I will vote rather for a Republican who can stand on his own two feet (and is not walking in the worn out shoes of a former president).
Frank J. (MO)
Clinton supporters are soooo missing the point. Inspirational leadership is getting people to do what you want them to do and making them feel good about it so that they'll keep wanting to work with you. It's called compromise. Clinton hasn't been so good with that, and if her negative campaign against a virtual unknown who came up from so far behind and kicked her butt in Iowa, raised more money than she has in an absolutely phenomenal grass roots campaign is any indication, Obama will be our Democratic nominee.
Hillary Clinton knows that and that's why she's attacking him. You don't go after the person you think you can beat (Edwards), you go after the person you think CAN BEAT YOU. Clinton tries to raise fears about Obama's electability by race baiting, but only proves the point that not only is an Obama presidency possible, but it's probable.
PAY ATTENTION: Obama has been subtly leading his opponents. He hasn't bent his campaign message (CHANGE) to fit anyone else's. But they've bent their message to copy his. He had the VISION when he started to know that that's what the American people wanted. He lead with his message of change and EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE FOLLOWED. So Hillary Clinton being worried about Obama's ability to lead tickles me.
I really, truly do not understand the viciousness that comes out of some people when talking about Senator Clinton. It seems to me that whatever she says, people twist it to serve their purpose–hatred. I think it's a legitimate distinction to draw. Believe me, if Senator Clinton said something like this, people would jump all over the statement and tell the world how unqualified she was and how she couldn't possibly be President. I'm so tired of all this vitriol without a reason.
All of you Hillary supporters need to understand the american people are starting to see the Clintons for what they are. A bunch of power hungry, selfish liars. I pray the people in Nevada will see through all of their deceit. Go Obama!
Hillary you are reaching so desperately ... you sound like a whiny toddler ... We already have Bush the "dumb" president we defintely don't need Clinton the" dumber" president... Obama is smart, he's got style, charisma, class you are beneath him ... you can be his assistant manager and hand him all his papers and organize his desk while he's busy uniting the country
CEO equals President
COO equals NOT THE PRESIDENT!!!!
I'm glad you solidified your role in this Presidential Role – Hillary for Obama's Managerial Assistant.
It's painfully obvious that everyone has feelings based on perceptions that cannot be swayed by any of these Presidential debates. Personally, I have not made up my mind, but feel very lucky to have such a strong pool of candidates to choose from. As a country, we need to keep our eye on the bigger picture here, which is the General Election, and just what is it going to take to correct all the wrongs of the last 7 years. All of this hate and vitriol is not going to help us come November. As someone that is undecided, I do have to admit that Hillary far outshined Obama and Edwards when it came to talking about the issues and policies. Her understanding and ability to articulate a clear path to address the big issues is truly impressive. Obama does not seem to have as good a grasp on the issues/policies, and does not seem to have done his homework. There is no substitute for preparation, so from that standpoint, Hillary and Edwards put themselves head and shoulders above Obama as appearing ready to lead this country. It's still early, Obama can still recover. For now, the pack is in front of him, not in his rear view.
If you can uplift people and inspire them deeply, they will then uplift themselves to live better lives.
Obama in 08!
There seem to be a lot of contradictory ideas floating around....Obama says he believes in accountability but then says he won't be accountable for how things are run. OBVIOUSLY the key task for any CEO/Executive is to balance the amount of information that he/she deals with. But, often visionaries don't make good managers and vice versa. The real challenge of the presidency is that you need to have a level of skill at wearing both hats, whether or not you favor one over the other. It's a wonderful thing to inspire, to bring people together, etc. But the job is not Chief Rhetorician or Head Academic....you need to be practical as well.
You know, why is it that when Hillary (and ONLY Hillary) talks about one of the other candidate's weaknesses, she is labeled everything bad under the sun.....but when one of the other 2 viable candidates attack her EVERY SINGLE DAY on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE, they are listened to. You are all so sexist in your reasonings, what the heck is that crap about? Easier to accept a male (of any race/ creed/ ethnicity) that it to accept a strong woman huh? Aren't you all the people that put Bush in the WH for TWO TERMS? Thanks for screwing up the country, so keep up the good work.
HILLARY 08
Last micro-manager at 1600 was Jimmy Carter and we all know what a fiasco that was. Shrilly Hilly's style is overwhelm and destroy. White House postal workers, stealing FBI files, Madison Guarantee, the list goes on. Try forgettin' is that new drug for Americans who were alert during the 90's and I say an ice cube in a hot cup of coffee has a better chance than that woman. Next time she wants to point fingers she needs to remember, "Physician, heal thyself."
So many of you people need to have your heads examined. Obama gives a good speech BUT his voting record in the Senate is awful, not the way he votes but the fact that he doesn't show up for votes. He tells you he would lose the disarmament agreement signed by every nation in the world if he held it for more than two minutes and you think it's a wonderful thing.
The biggest complaint that I have with Obama is his promising that he can unite the country OVER AND OVER AGAIN but not how he would do that. Do you do that by compromising on all the things that make him a democrat? If he does, he will alienate his party. If he doesn't, the repugs will just blast him. The fact is, he can't. 30 % of the country is going to hate him, right or left. Some right wing preacher in the South will claim that he drove Jimmy Hoffa out into a Washington DC park in the middle of the night and killed him and half of you nutcases will believe it. Grow up, people. Elect someone who is Presidential, experienced and organized. Let Obama give his speeches to our young people who are rapidly thinking they have no voice in America
What Hilary seems to be saying is that she is a Micromanager! Everyone hates a micromanager and all they really accomplish is making less productivity. He said twice in the debate that you delegate tasks and hold them accountable.
That's all we need in the Oval Office, someone who can't manage "things" efficiently!
Let us not forget, this is an individual whose finger will be on the nuclear button...if Obama wins this election, let's hope he doesn't mistake THAT button for the one he uses to call THAT person who keeps him organized!
So finally we get a true glimpse at the REAL Obama...unorganized and requires a handler!
Wonderful.
This is a quasi Pied Piper situation. Obama spouting rah rah rah, he's the agent of change...with his past performance as a state legislator, his kind of change we do not need.
If you think George W did this country a disservice, wait till the good ol boys in DC get their hooks in this guy who does not view himself as a Chief Executive!
We will have take 2 steps forward in his glorious rhetoric and (if elected), 10 giant steps backward toward a truely puppet president.
Give me a break, Obama is not the choice of the educated or informed.
Management and Leadership have been confused and collapsed together for years and Management passing for Leadership is at the core of many of our problems. When Management prevails you have a top heavy organization with resources being spent to maintain the status quo. Activities and "talking about" things passes for results and paths for action are reduced to the lowest common denominator to what people can agree on, which is most cases is nothing more than to have yet another meeting to continue "talking about" the issues. When you encounter a situation where reasons, excuses and justifications are passing for results you have a person who is organized around Management thinking they are a leader. You have a Hillary Clinton.
When a person is creating new possibilities for the future and orchestrating the resources to develop the new possibilities into reality, they hand off to Management the things that need to be managed on behalf of bringing stability to the new possibilies. Management becomes the floor upon which you build not the ceiling that prevents productive action.They are responsible for management, they are not Managers they are in fact a Leader. You have a Barack Obama.
The difference in this election is that we have a person who is a Leader with authenticity, integrity and intelligence. The absence of these qualities gives us a George Bush who is not responsble for Management and we have situations like what happened in New Orleans and he leads from his own arrogance and personal agenda into a war that "the people" were against.
Hillary Clinton is the worst possible choice for President. She is fundamentally a Manager and thinks that a hands on approach to moving the deck chairs on the Titanic (and I agree that she does have experience in doing this) will bring about change. She has also demonstrated a "my way" or the "highway" aspect of her personality that could lead us to situations far worse that what Bush has brought us to, Managers who think they are Leaders resort to use of their position and authority to mandate their own way. Giving the positon and authority of President of the United States to Hillary would be a HUGE MISTAKE on the part of the American people.
Really good leaders are visionary, oriented around a possible future, collaborative and appreciate the need for transforming old systems to support new possibilities. They know that bringing new possibilities into existence takes hard work and they can't do it by themselves. They garner support from the people around them to take on new challenges and leverage the strengths of the concerned stakeholders. They provide Leadership and amazing positive results flow from the collaborative efforts. Barack Obama is a really good leader and when I listen to him calling for the support of the American people to take up our challenge of transforming our country I know we have perhaps our last and only shot at turning the corner on what has been our downhill slide as a Nation since the Nixon Administration. Vote for a Leader! Vote for Obama!
What Hilary seems to be saying is that she is a Micromanager! Everyone hates a micromanager and all they really accomplish is making less productivity. He said twice in the debate that you delegate tasks and hold them accountable.
I mean where do you think this is going to go Hilary supporters even the United States Marine Corps delegates tasks and said that it produces its streght.
Second comment is for the ones compairing delegating tasks as in Obama's case to delegating leadership which is Bush's case. Two very different things and delegating leadership to NeoConservitives got us into this mess. Now Hilary wants to take over the White House and delegate leadership to the old Clinton staff. The exact same thing as Bush except replacing NeoCon's with Neo'Liberals? Throw out the old trash!
Vote for Obama
MOST OF YOU PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG SOUND VERY CHILDISH WITH COMMENTS LIKE
IF SHE SHOULD WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION SHE WILL NOT GET MY VOTE!!
I WOULD RATHER VOTE REPUBLICAN
I WILL NOT VOTE
YOU ARE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF BECAUSE MY TRUE VOICE WILL BE HEARD WHEN I CAST MY VOTE. VOTING DEMOCRAT NO MATTER WHAT!!
ALL OF YOU PEOPLE ACTING LIKE YOU NEVER MADE MISTAKES NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF, YOU GOING TO MAKE A LOT MORE KEEP LIVING SOME YOU MAKE KNOWINGLY AND SOME UNKNOWNLY
She definitely has no clue what this country needs. We do not need the same old thing in Washington. We need a change in attitude to bring this country together and all she does is attack Obama for insignificant issues. If you want more drama in the White House (92'-2000) then elect the same type of politician. Lets show this type of politician that we've had enough of personal tear-down politics and elect Obama. The American people deserve a President we are proud of-my two cents!
Good on you, USA!!
Reading your comments today I am greatly encouraged.
Despite the fact that over the last few days, it seemed the debate on who was to be the next president was being hijacked by a section of the public more interested in the race of a candidate rather than the content of their policies, you have risen above the pettiness of the colour of ones skin and not taken the bait.
Congratulations to you all good people!!!
I am so proud to be an American citizen. I have read most of what is being said about both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Someone pointed out a good idea. Let's have a debate on each person's qualifications and the specifics on some of their policies. Let's all keep an open mind and remember what this election is all about. I trully respect Senator Obama and his abilities as a motivational speaker. I also admire Senator Clinton for her hard work through the years. But, if we should have a debate on just the qualifications, I would like everyone to ask themselves one question. We are talking about voting for the highest office in this nation. We are talking about the leader of the free world. Do not let the media or pop star status of others and their support for one candidate or another, sway your vote. Let's all be real for one minute. Experience and the knowledge of issues are both important. The next President will face these problems: social security, taxes, real estate mess, Iraq war, economy, education, loss of jobs due to outsourcing, illegal immigration,etc...
STOP, SLOW DOWN, AND THINK. WHO DO YOU ENVISION SITITNG IN THE CHAIR OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WILL SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS-SOCIAL SECURITY, TAXES, REAL ESTATE MESS, IRAQ WAR, ECONOMY, EDUCATION, LOSS OF JOBS DUE TO OUTSOURCING, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, ?
The issues we face cannot be solved, by talking, but action. We need someone who has "plans" for the future. Goerge W Bush said we would bring integrity and unite this country. I think most people think it is quite the opposite today. Also, if Senator Obama is elected President, he will most likely surround himself, with those of more experience then himself as would most of the candidates. How is this change in the establishment? Believe it or not, the federal govt is not all bad. There are a few things thay have done that are good for the people. For those that are Hillary Clinton haters, if a debate on just a person's qualifications is considered, I would bet that you would attack her and say she is boasting of her accomplishements, while Barack Obama is above fray and just such an "innocent" in all of this. What are the facts?"
KEEP TO THE FACTS PEOPLE AND LET'S ASK FOR SPECIFIC PLANS FROM ALL THE CANDIDATES, JUST NOT RHETORIC. YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE GOVT THE WAY IT RUNS OVERNIGHT, NOT EVEN IN 4 YEARS. YOU CANNOT EVEN SOLVE ALL OF THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY TALKING ABOUT IT. WHAT ARE THE SPECIFC PLANS OF EACH CANDIDATE, THAT'S WHAT I WILL BASE MY VOTE ON. THIS RACE IS NOT "AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL" OR "AMERICAN IDOL. " DO NOT LET THE MEDIA BRAINWASH YOU!!!!!
Now that Hillary has "found her voice"...she needs a "mute" button...........
This is a weak point by Hillary. It highlights that she too has never been a Chief Executive. A Chief Executive would never criticize another Chief Executive for not being a Chief Operating Officer. Way different roles. Good CEOs set strategy, set direction and motivate people to execute them. They give people a roadmap to know how they fit in. They don't operate; they hold others accountable for how they operate.
And people who compare the Obama approach to the Bush approach just don't get it. When you set a bad strategy, you get bad results. Bush = Bad strategy/bad direction. Obama = Good strategy/good direction.
Ok. What with his problem with organization and all I wonder how he can remember stuff way back in his childhood. Oh silly me, those things have to do more with memory than with organization, and a few tweaking of fine details won't do any harm...
I do not want a president who is relies on his staff to clean his own desk. I do not want a president who says one thing and does another. I do not want a president who glosses over events in order to sell books.
Anyone but Obama 08
(Preferably Hillary Clinton)
Well what do you expect from this Obama guy.
He's got a track record of voting 'Present' on issues where conviction mattered.
(Oh yes, he did vote 'ABSENT' on the Iran resolution and has the nerve to criticize Hillary for at least casting her vote!!)
An eloquent orator, a sweet sweet talker but HOLLOW!
people keep mentioning hillary's marraige to president Clinton as part of her experience. i even read above that she was "privy" to the workings of the presidency. now ask yourself, did bill and hill really have late night chats about the direction of his policies and did he truly regard her as a confidant or value her opinion. remember this is the woman he cheated on at least once to our knowledge (who knows how many times in actuality) and then vehemently denied being unfaithful to. i'll take a leap and say that they weren't exactly best friends. also consider what bill stands to gain by endorsing hillary weather or not he believes she is the right candidate for the job.
i haven't yet decided who i will be voting for, just wanted to shed some light on that issue.
The majority of comments sadly show the age and knowledge level of those commenting. Sad that we don't raise the voting age limit to 40, so we at least have some knowledge of what we are talking about before we comment. This is exactly why we ended up with Bush. We fell for the hype and excitement and entertainment. We deserve what we get when we vote with our emotions rather than what we actually know. Unfortunately Media seems to foster this kind of emotional voting by endlessly giving us their personal views instead of reporting the news. It also shows how easily many of us are influenced by media bias and manipulation. Sadly we are as gullible as many in the media and government think we are.
I think that people should look at the issues and not just rattle off at the mouth. Some of Obama's seragates have started all of this race and gender talk to take voters minds off the issues. Look at the records and vote! Go Hillary
Bill Clinton is now in Canada. Years ago Hilliary came here to find out all of the particulars on our Health care system. Instead of her health care proposal the Americans settled for Free Trade. You dont supose Bill is taking a refresher course.