January 16, 2008
Posted: January 16th, 2008 03:37 PM ET
Clinton is taking aim at Obama’s management ability.
Clinton is taking aim at Obama’s management ability.

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) - The Clinton campaign continued its new line of attack on Barack Obama Wednesday, based on his recent campaign trail admissions that he isn't a details-oriented "chief operating officer."

At an event in Las Vegas, Hillary Clinton warned a group of Nevada voters that if a president does not manage the government bureacracy then "it will manage you."

Obama has made several recent statements highlighting his inexperience in running a bureaucracy, and his lack of organizational skills.

"I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it," he said in the Democratic debate Tuesday night. "And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff.”

The Illinois senator added that those qualities were not as important in a president as the ability to bring Americans together to make progress on issues stymied for years by partisan struggles.

Clinton challenged Obama's view of the role of a president in last night's debate, and her campaign continues to push the issue in e-mails.

In her comments today, she argued that the Bush era through a "mismanaged war" and the failure to react quickly to Hurricane Katrina has proved that "government by advisor" doesnt work. The country needs, said Clinton, "a hands-on manager."

There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style.

The Obama campaign immediately fought back. “Hillary Clinton may believe this is a race for who would make the best Chief of Staff, but Barack Obama believes this country is looking for a president who has the leadership, vision and ability to bring people of differing views together around a common agenda for change,” Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.

The New York senator's remarks Wednesday came in a roundtable discussion on the 25-year-battle over using a site in Nevada's Yucca Mountain as a repository for nuclear waste. Clinton promised Nevada voters that as president, she will take the Yucca issue off the table "once and for all."

–CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Nevada


Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 18th, 2008 9:15 am ET

John, your long post is one of the best posts I've seen on this website.

Concerned citizen, Obama was making a larger point about presidents that were successful in "changing the trajectory of the country." I'm not Republican, but the fact that Reagan significantly changed the trajectory of this country and rallied the majority around him is not debatable. Reagan was the last president that won in LANDSLIDE victories (1980: 50%-41%, 44 states, 1984: 58%-40%, 49 states) and he did this by getting a good deal of Democrats on his side...hence the term "Reagan Democrat." Obama's comment about Reagan wasn't really anything he hasn't said before. Obama feels he can bring people together as Reagan did, and his poll numbers are starting to reflect this. You need crossover votes to win general elections.

wvin   January 17th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

I guess the issue is what kind candidate should be chosen as the Nominee for the Democratic Party, someone who is very eloquence or someone who had taken some action in the past to make changes?

John Kerry was quite eloquence, but why he lost in 2004? AMERICAN DOES NOT NEED A PRESIDENT ONLY GOOD AT TALKING; AMERICAN NEEDS A PRESIDENT GOOD AT ACTING TO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES.

So we need to look at the candidate’s political achievements in the past. It is not clear what Senator Obama has done in the past; but for Senator Hillary at least it is true that “As first lady she traveled to 83 countries, chaired the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, and raised awareness of health issues for Americans around the country…”.

Talking is much easier than actions, than having the real things done. The voters make the decision not based on how eloquence the candidate is.

EFREN   January 17th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

SORRY FOR THE OBAMANIANS THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD SPIRIT AND NOT THINKING OF THE GOOD FOR AMERICA. OBAMA IS ANOTHER IDIOT AND INEXPERIENCE LIKE GEORGE BUSH WHO FOOLS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THOSE WHO WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BETTER WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

Steve   January 17th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

Sir Winston Churchill had a messy desk too, but he was a great motivator, leader and decision maker. You are the President of the United States, no the next General Manager for McDonalds.

Wilhemina   January 17th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

The Judge's decision is not good enough for the Clinton's what hypocrites...Go Obama! ... and Clintons' listen what America is saying to you, either you are arrogant or ignorant or both (like the Judge told OJ about his slickery). No one wants your scandalist behavior to run our country. What country would take either of you as a threat, you are a scandalist joke to every overseas government. No votes for an impeached former President and his wife to be paid by and lead this country, My God, have some respect for your country!

angelina_ MN   January 17th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

desperate HILLBILLYS will try to do anything, they are desperate and feel threatned. It is a shame that they will go so low............ but hey this is what they are made of, they are old status quo and want us to remain that way. Just wander what they will come up with next: a new name in the ballot: HILLYBILLY for president.
so is this change? the woman who says dont use race and gender yet she does?

she makes me so ashame. she will make sure no women is ever elected or runs for another 200 years.

E

Maxx   January 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

The attacks on Hillary just fuels my fire to vote for her. I'm sick of these old white men taking pot shots at her. Obama makes a crazy statement about how unorganized he is and CNN takes it on themselves to defend his remark by attacking Hillary. Obama is slick. He and John McCain are darlings of the media. More than anything, I want to slap that arrogant tone from the media's lips by Hillary becoming president. Especially, CNN.

Maxx   January 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

I was surprised, then I wasn't surprised, that CNN did not spend more time reporting Obama's statement "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it," he said in the Democratic debate Tuesday night. "And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff.”

This man is running for president of the greatest country in the world. He calls legislative issues on his desk "stuff" and he will lose track of paper that he needs to sign if it's not given to him "two seconds before he has to sign it." God help us if this man becomes president. It will be another George Bush in office, just he will be a democrat, and unfortunately for my race, he will be black. I hope he does not win!

Christian, Tampa FL   January 17th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

I would remind the universe that many leaders and professionals across the world are like Senator Obama in the sense that they might not have a clean desk and ability to keep track of every single little paper, and yet are capable and strong leaders. What I understood from Obama's comment is that he would put together, and surround himself with, a team of professional, organized people who would make a great cabinet. I saw the comment, in context, as a plus because I knew he would choose the most capable people to handle the little stuff while he acts as architect of policy for the United States.

Russell, VA   January 17th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

You have to be crazy to vote for anyone taking millions in donations from LOBBIEST and CORPORATIONS! Need I even say the name? It's like voting for suicide????

Lyn Howard   January 17th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Hilary Clinton running for office is like watching Thelma Nixon, wife of the disgraced Richard Nixon, with Richard hanging around right behind her. Would that have ever have been possible? So why is the wife of an impeached president considered for one moment now?

The Clintons trustworthy? Bill was impeached!

Marsha   January 17th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

To Derek, IA

George Washington doesn't count he was the first President!

President Lincoln was such a great president that he led us into the Civil War.

Objective Hillary Supporter   January 17th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

If you bothered to watch the debates and not just read the blogs, then you should know how poorly Obama did in the debate. He tripped over his words, and made poor statements like the above. You cannot run the country just by motivating and inspiring the people – this is what a community organizer does. Obama makes for a great MLK, he however does not make for a great president – at this point in time. A president must be able to simultaneously inspire the people, manage beauracracy, work with all the branches of government, work with all parties (according to the recent Time magazine article, in the state Senate Obama had a difficult time passing laws with Republicans due to being to far Left), act as Commander and Cheif, manage your staff, manage the media, i.e. your public image, and yourself...and personal life. I'm sure I'm forgetting some things. So, again I state, that it is NOT enough to be inspirational, which, yes, Obama is great at...this makes for a great "candidate" but not a great leader.

Additionaly, as far as this "truce" that people keep claiming that Hillary is violating. Obama and Hillary called for a "truce" on the race issue. Because I am a Hillary supporter I am going to try to avoid making to many comments on this because it's what she wants. However, also because people are still making comments on it, I do want to make one factual statement on it. I submit that Senator Obama ADMITTED that his press secretary released a 4-PAGE press release to the press after Hillary's comments on MLK, and that it was the incorrect thing for his campaign to do. Though, he looks like the bigger man apologizing, it is impossible for me to know whether this is a campaign tactic. I do not know that it was not planned to make this release...plays the race card as some have said...and then apologize for it and say it was something that he would never do. Surely Senator Obama would approve a 4-page press release on such an intense subject?

So, the "truce" stands on Race...the above statement has only to do with his fumbled words on his leading capabilities, which I would agree with.

Josh   January 17th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

If Obama loses the Democratic Nomination it will be only because he hasn't taken a lesson from the "Bible of Dirty Campaign Trickery" authored by the Clinton Political Smearing Machine, Inc.... seriously folks, will we ever elect a president that wins without having thrown the most mud?!?! I HOPE that the message of HOPE wins the day for once in our nations history, and that we finally kick the fear card to the curb...

OBAMA '08

C Martin   January 17th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Funny how you always hear about what Bill Clinton is saying, but you never get coverate of other spouses. This is horrible for a former President to always be covered like this by the media. Let Hilary run for office and just keep silent.

Fem4Hillary   January 17th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Obama supporters approve of his previous drug use.
Obama suppporters approve his little to no experience.
Obama supporters approve of his unorganizational skills.
Obama supporters approve of his attacks on Hillary but not him being attacked.

I am wondering if its because of this supporters that we have George W. Bush in office now?!!

Go Hillary !!

Jack Mckay   January 17th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

I think Wolf Blitzer's political bias is showing big time when it comes to the Clinton Campaign. He is very pro republican in his comments and I would go on to say, pro any male candidate over Hilary. I relaize CNN is owned by a corporation which leans right almost all the time. Oh sure, not as bad as Fox news. But lets face it, The News Media has an obligation to persent the news with out editorial opinion. If your editorializing, give a disclaimer. Otherwise your not being truthful. Blitzer's just to full of himself and his greatest news team. Blah blah blah. I think I will swith to c-span.....

Paul Williamson   January 17th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

I don't pay any attention to the political bloggers because it is apparent they are not very important, they have a lot of time on their hands to write the drivel they write-they are either in school, unemployed, or if employed, wasting their time at work. The real contributors to the economy and the country are busy at work instead of wasting their time on this crap.

Sam - MI   January 17th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

Well Hillary, I got to say you are lying if you claim that you will be able to look at each and every paper that will walk through white house. lets not go upto white house but rather look at your campaign management. Yours campaign team is the one that has forwarded most abusive and non-sense materials against your rival Obama and you have been on the records many time apologizing for this. You can not even control your own campaign team at the moment. How can you claim that you will be able to go through all the details of every issue that will be in the white house? I think Mr. Bill Clinton (and his team) should be ready for a full time job on sharing your job as president. Come on Hillary. Start making some sense out of your comments and attack on Obama.

jyfranca   January 17th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

There is no difference between bush and clinton.in 2000 voters were disenfranchized.in 2008 Hillary and Bill clinton want to disenfranchize Nevada caucus goers.In 2004 Bush said if voters were not going to reelect him there would be a great incident of terror than sept 11.and he warned to vote for democrat would welcome al Qaeda.In 2008 Hillary says ske is experienced and voting for Obama or edward will welcome terrorist threat in a country and also she is the only one who can fight terror.In 2008 Hillary uses economy to fear the voters that if they do not vote for her there would be a major blow in economy,recession.Clinton has received lots of donation in her compaign from lobbysts than any candidate in 2008 race.Clinton use race as the way to win nomination.she is desperate until she cries after seeing she was losing.Also Clinton use tactic of divide and rule.he uses her puppet Johnson to attack obama.Clinton is leading in attack.they call obama moslem,drug dealer.If clinton is nowstrting to divide people on racial,gender,how will she do when she is president,more polarization.

KYLA ATLANTA,GA   January 17th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

This campain has fallen to shambles....And the media is eating it up and serving it to us on a plate....All these dirty politics, and poiting the finger has totally took this campain into another direction. I had a lot of respect for the Clinton's, but all of these alligations and things have come up attaking Obama is unessasarry....If you want Americas vote, just keep it real with yourself....focus on your campaign and let voter decided without the finger point and what not. Thats one of the reasons American isn't United right now. Make an example out of yourself, and worry about YOU....when you start putting the spotlight on someone else (Obama) they are getting more attention, and you look like a tattle-tale and "the bad guy"...and people dont like that....Obama has taken the high road and when he does comment on his rival hes not pointing the finger. I dont think that is his concern. His concern is to get our country together. Hes not perfect, who cares? I dont want that in a President. Iwant a president who is human, who we can relate to and who has hope. Not someone who braggs about the past and trys to play dirty for their own personal gain. It seems as if Hillary has shown her true colors, and her concern has drawn away from the people. Shes focused on herself, and Mr.Clinton needs to step back because it seems like he wants to run the show and she'll be a puppet...I know a lot of you say Obama is inexperienced, but i dont think so...Hillary has a lot of lobbist insiders who are part of the reason of this economy, and foreign affairs. Washingtnon need to clean house, and get all of those rats out of there....I encourage people to vote for who they are going to vote for, and dont let the media influence your choice. Watch the debates, listen to talk radio...all of the cantidates are trying to sell their ideas to us and what they will do....the question is who seems more ginuine abput their claims? Which cantidate will include the American people and let us know whats REALLY going on...I dont want to be shut out anymore. I know where I stand on this.

Dan, USA   January 17th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

As a Republican for McCain I have to laugh at all the bickering on the dem side. I especially find it funny that the Hillary supports tell Obama to come back in 2016 after Hillary's 8 years. What makes you people think that (1)Hillary as the most polarizing figure in US politics EVER would win a national election against anyone, and (2) even if that happened and the country really saw her "vast" experience come into play (meaning she will divide the country even more) that she could win a second term? LAUGHABLE!!!!! People who think with Hillary and Obama the dems have the next 16 years locked up as President are smoking the same stuff Bill Clinton and Obama did in their youth!

KYLA ATLANTA,GA   January 17th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

This political race has fallen to shambles....The Clintons are bringing durty politics into the mix of things, and the media is exposing it all because people like dirt. I'm really concerned with our country and the issues, and it seems as if this campain it drawiing away from that. I had a lot of respect for the Clinton's, but this behavior is copmpletely immature ans unessasarry...you dont have to lash out at someone and try to make them look bad in order to get America's vote...It's simple...just keep it real with yoourself. Focus on what YOU are going to do to make this countyry a better place. I dont want to hear about disorganization and "hand-on" managing, and "I did this" "I did that"....lets talk about now. Borak Obama is not perfect, and he expresses that, thats why I respect his camapin. He's human...I want a President who can

Lisa Gross   January 17th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Whenever I hear a speech by Hillary I stop listening, whenever I see Hillary on television I turn the channel. I no longer find her credible and I don't need the stress of trying to figure out just what she is really trying to say! I'm always left feeling confused and manipulated!!!!!!!!

vee   January 17th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I don't think she has any track record to show that she can manage anything except to run negative stuff about others. She's nothing but fluff!

Gil - California   January 17th, 2008 11:14 am ET

This is why the Democrats will lose the White House this election. Folks like me who hate Hillary will never vote for her if she wins the primary. We'll either sit it out or vote Republican. Folks who hate Obama will never vot for him if he wins the primary. They will either sit it out or vote Republican.

In the end there will be a Republican in the White House and I'll be wondering why I wasted so much energy and emotion on a losing team.

Shirley   January 17th, 2008 10:57 am ET

Is Hillary incompetent? It would appear so!!!!! Every time something doesn't go the way of the Clintons', Bill has to go before the press and stand up for Hillary. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she can't stand up for herself in the issues that come up in this election period, how in the world is she supposed to be competent enough to deal with all the really important and life changing issues for this country that will come up as President of the United States?

Once again...   January 17th, 2008 10:50 am ET

I will vote for NOT vote for ABC.
And I believe caring too much is a weakness. This whole campaigning thing is not exactly peaceful, especially for Hillary Clinton, so it must take great caring to run for president. After all, if all Clinton really cares about is power and wealth, she could have gone into another field.

Wilhemina   January 17th, 2008 10:49 am ET

President Obama should appoint Hillary to manage something (not near his office, some foreign embassy), I think that is what she is hinting. Notice that her attention seeking behavior is directed towards Obama, and only Obama. I wonder what Edwards most think to be discounted by her like that. Obama constantly acknowledging and pulling Edwards into the debate on Tuesday. Hillary intentionally acted as though she only had eyes for Obama, she watched him exit during each commercial break, and at the closing when he got up to shake hands she turned towards him, but he went around her and stood between Edwards and her, and congradulated them both. She did not noticably congrat Edwards. The Clinton's are a public embarrassment and they do not care.

Ms.Daisy   January 17th, 2008 10:45 am ET

This really is a sad day. People are clueless if they think by putting the
Clintons back in the White House things will be better–trust me it will be
worst. This was the plan all along – Bill Clinton wanted to be known as "the
first black president" However Clinton was NOT and never will be the first black
president– PERIOD. He wiggled his way through the black community to get what
he/she are looking for today– YOUR VOTE– and it looks like its working.
That's why she hung in there with him, its called pay back. Listen my people of
all races– we can do this- reach across the table with Obama and move the
table. Love will conquer ( EVERYONE)!!! Hate will keep us divided.

TJ WILLIAMS, Los Angeles, CA   January 17th, 2008 10:45 am ET

My question is...if she's so experienced and good at attention to detail...
HOW DID SHE MISS ALL THE WOMANIZING BILL DID RIGHT UNDER HER NOSE? if she has sooo much experience why didn't she see an intern was maintaining an intimate relationship with her husband right there in the Whitehouse? It's time to take off the gloves and ask Hillary Clinton "why didn't you see what was right infront of your face...especially since this was not the first time?

J. McKinney SW MO   January 17th, 2008 10:31 am ET

I am getting a real kick out of these comments that excuse all Obama's faults and lacks by saying he was "Honest about it". Does that fix everything?
He did drugs as a young person. Hopefully he has matured beyond that, but is something to question his judgement about. BUT HE WAS HONEST ABOUT IT.
He's very disorganized–he says not to hand him a paper as he will lose it. That doesn't sound very good, BUT HE WAS HONEST ABOUT IT. Does being honest fix everything? I think it is good that he is at least honest, but honest doesn't fix everything and make it right. And it isn't the only criteria for being a good leader of the US. He needs more experience.
Take a person who has murdered someone. If he admits it, and is HONEST ABOUT IT should that get him off the hook, or is he still a murderer?
Take a person who has stolen a car, for instance. If he admits he stole it, AND IS HONEST ABOUT IT, does that let him off the hook? I don't think so.
We need Hillary, she has the experience we need to run the country.
GO, HILLARY!

Once again...   January 17th, 2008 10:29 am ET

I will vote for no one BUT ABC.
And I believe caring too much is a weakness. This whole campaigning thing is not exactly peaceful, especially for Hillary Clinton, so it must take great caring to run for president. After all, if all Clinton really cares about is power and wealth, she could have gone into another field.

matchu   January 17th, 2008 10:25 am ET

How disgustingly sneaky of her. He used this as one of his weaknesses at the debate where it was a "polite and calm" atmosphere....as if. Another lame attempt at the Clinton campaign to sling mud at anyone she can lay her hands on and claim shes "the innocent one."

Joe, Boston   January 17th, 2008 10:24 am ET

Why is this considered an "attack"? He is the one who confessed to not being organized. Why is the media always calling legitimate issue differences "attacks"?

Chaunda,IN   January 17th, 2008 10:22 am ET

Ron S.

I don't have to go back to two hundred years to draw my comparisions. Obama is using the same campaign Bush did 8 years ago. And now he is drawing comparision between himself and Reagan. I am not reading a sound bite, I actually watched the interview.
Now here is the part that will draw out the hatemongers. Obama is always comparing himself to historical figures (MLK,JFK, now Reagan) because he has no viable history of his own. No one is saying ( or at least I am not saying) he is a bad guy but the speech does not make the man. And you can call him the Great Uniter all you want but the fact is those same republicans who praise his speechs of hope and change are the same ones will then go vote republican.
People, at least those of you who are really Democrats debate the candidates that's fine but do not use the republican talking points when talking of your own party members.

MJ North Mississippi   January 17th, 2008 10:11 am ET

Okay, according to Obama all we have to do is get together and have a great big group hug and all the worlds problems will disappear. Gee I wonder what would happen if someone had a cold. Two seconds to make some of the decisions that could ultimately change our way of living. Sounds like he has a mind of a two year old.

larry buchas, new britain, ct   January 17th, 2008 10:10 am ET

That question during the debate was to state a major strength and weakness of each candidate. Barack was the only on e to answer it with honesty.

Hillary claims her weakness is "growing impatient" when good things are not happening. She could never admit to anything she's done wrong which puts her in the same boat as George W. Bush. I find her "growing impatient" equivalent to her flying off the handle and isolating herself from discussions.

Perhaps that's a weakness she needs to clarify.

Curious George   January 17th, 2008 10:06 am ET

Candy Crowley,

Your job is to provide the public with fair and balanced reporting without prejudice to any candidate. It is not the journalist's job to select who they think is the best candidate by brainwashing the public your ideas and beliefs. Your job is to report to the public the accurate facts in order for the public to decide who they think is the best candidate who can govern this great country.

Ndulue Lloyd   January 17th, 2008 10:00 am ET

Hilary is the most experienced American woman...Unfortunately, this experience is all about keeping on keeping on...even when your husband sees no reason to be faithful....

thats a very nice credential...isn`t it?

Dwayne, Pa   January 17th, 2008 9:58 am ET

Still NO ONE has been able to inform me on all the "accomplishments" Hillary has achieved in 35 YEARS!
Can any of you Hillary supporters give me details of what the heck she has done in 35 YEARS?
I expect the list will be a mile long since she's been "working for us" for 35 YEARS!

mike kaplan   January 17th, 2008 9:48 am ET

First, this is a minor criticism. But more to the point, why does CNN need to run two essentially identical stories on the same page about the fact that one candidate politely criticized another? CNN is seriously biased against Hillary for some reason.

And all you people on the blogs here, both Hillary and Obama supporters, really need to CALM DOWN!!!!! The enemy wants us to fight, and you're giving them what they want. And by "the enemy", I mean the Republicans. I'm not sure whether I'll vote Hillary or Obama, but I know that I'll support either one of them against any of the Republicans. Hillary and Obama are much closer in their positions to each other than they are to the other side, which has done horrible damage to our country in more ways than I can count.

Let's stay focused, people. We need a Democrat in 2008, and we can't afford to let this campaign get ugly.

Tom - Dedham, Mass   January 17th, 2008 9:40 am ET

Clintonista's, again you need to be reminded that Bill Clinton is not running for President and he will not be "her" vice President or part of "her" cabinet. .

The subject here is organization skills of the two CANDIDATES and one has the guts to admit that he sometimes is disorganized and the other one jumps all over it as it appears that he is showing a crack in his armor.

She AS USUAL does not really answer the question, but offers a lame "I care too much", just like after "caring" about people from Iowa for months and then TRASHING them after they saw right through your BS.

A real brief and small segment of her organizational skills:

One must ask, why did she NOT read the NIE report BEFORE making the BIGGEST decison a politician can make?

She now says that she had "people brief her on the report", whom exactly?

If she is so hands on as she makes it seem, why did she not vet an $850,000 bundler (Hsu) or the asian dishwashers who were giving up 10 percent of the yearly salary while living at PHONY addresses?

Why did it take so long for the Rose law firm papers to show up on a nightstand (after two years) covered with HER fingerprints?

Here's what the New York Times reported on March 17, 1992: "Hillary Clinton said today that she did not earn 'a penny' from state business conducted by her Little Rock law firm and that she never intervened with state regulators on behalf of a failed Arkansas savings and loan association. . . "

Records will show that she did, in fact, represent Madison before the state securities department. After the revelation, she says, "For goodness sakes, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks."

Number of times Hillary Clinton says "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50. Number of paragraphs in this statement: 42.

Doesn't sound too organized to me, sounds more like a lying, conniving politician that will do and say ANYTHING to gain power.

It is really as simple as ABC.

Jill, Austin, TX   January 17th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Everyone is making valid points. Looking at the facts regarding management styles, we have a problem with both candidates. Having lived in Austin, TX and seeing Bush through the White House, I can tell you that only listening to advisors and political consultants (Rove) on which to base your decisions do not work. Bush has admitted many times that he never reads any reports and only requests his advisors to give him a summary. That is how he based his decisions. No critical thinking whatsoever.
As for Hilary, we also know that micromanagement does not work. If you make all the decisions without any input from other experts, you have a high risk of also making a lot of poor decisions (not to mention that this is how our economy has failed in many ways and how dictatorships form).
What we need is someone who not only has full understanding of the issues and be able to base his/her decisions on unbiased facts but also one who can lead and unite people not only in our country but throughout the world. Who does that really leave us with?
I am not endorsing any one at this point and am doing my best to wade through the facts and determine which one of the candidates will best serve our country. I hope that each of you will do the same. Forget the rhetoric. Use critical thinking in making your decision.

Dave   January 17th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Can a HRC supporter please tell me what legislation has she drafted that became law or was even voted on? Can you give me her voting record on key American issues, whether if she voted yes or no, and give her reasons for her vote?

I didn't think so. I have been asking this same question for 2 weeks now and no one has even attempted to answer my question.

Bonnie   January 17th, 2008 9:21 am ET

Hillary holding herself out as an efficient master of "details" – Spare me.

Hillary is so clueless she

- thinks Bill Clinton has been a faithful spouse

- couldn't find those billing records in the white House

- DID NOT BOTHER to read the classified briefing materials before authorizing Bush to go to war in Iraq.

Go Obama ! ! !

Kosi   January 17th, 2008 9:15 am ET

Please present both sides of the debate CNN. Obama's rebuttal to Clinton was that he was not implying an inability to manage the government bureaucracy. He believes that the president needs to be a good manager of people and ideas. Identify five good/great managers in your work environment and check out their work space. I could guarantee that it probably looks a little unorganized from first glance and/or they have a personal assistant telling them where to go and how to get there.

Personally I think of the presidency as the CEO. He/She needs to be able to set a vision for the country and manage a team of experts in their relative specialties. The president is not the expert but the hirer/manager of qualified persons.

Who do you think will be able to bring together a diverse group of thinkers? Not just diverse in how they look, but diversity of thought. I think we all know the answer to that question.

Rick   January 17th, 2008 9:09 am ET

"There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style."

A little biased, Candy?

fietts   January 17th, 2008 9:05 am ET

So the litmus test for being POTUS is how tidy one's desk is...Darn shame she could not find the time to read the reports about Iraq's capabilities before she voted for the war.

OBAMA's looking better every day.

Pat   January 17th, 2008 9:04 am ET

Okay, let me get this straight, Obama says "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it," he said in the Democratic debate Tuesday night. "And my desk in my office doesn't look good. I've got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff.” And after having said this you are bashing Clinton for stating the obvious? If the shoe were on the other foot, you would all be extolling Obama for putting Clinton in her place.

I personally would not want a President who doesn't know what is going on until "two seconds" before it happens. Don't we already have one of those in office now? Does anyone remember the 8 minute wait while George W sat in that classroom after being told that the US was being attacked? AND then the additional 20 minutes it took for his writers to come up with something for him to say – althought brilliantly written it should not have taken almost 30 minutes from the time he heard the news until he spoke America about what was going on. Whatever about the amount of time it took to react to Katrina? Not only that but we also have had to stand by for the past 7 years by while George W's staff (Rove, Cheney) took care of things while he did whatever it was he did and look where that has left us.

The President is supposed to be a leader we can to look to for guidance and I don't see how we can do that with someone who isn't organized. I'm sorry Sen Obama but you lost a lot of cool points with me on this one. I think I may have to knock you from the number 2 position to number 4 on my list of people I would vote for. I'm sure that means nothing to him or to the Obama supporters on this board but it means something to me.

Oh, and one last thing, for the record, the TRUCE was regarding race issues. As the saying goes folks, "Don't Hate the Player, Hate the Game" because they are ALL playing the game. Some of you are hating the player, I choose to hate the way the game is being played.

Lynn   January 17th, 2008 9:03 am ET

I'm getting pretty tired of people, including Hillary Clinton, saying Obama is similar to Bush because both are "nice guys" who had little experience when running for president. That is utterly ridiculous. I don't see any of Bush's problems as stemming from a lack of experience or from being disorganized. Bush seems to be extremely organized and schedule-driven, and he had experience as governor of Texas. Neither experience nor organization was a factor in his biggest problem, which was (is) that he is a stubborn man who absolutely must get his own way at all costs. Bush came into office aching for a fight against Iraq, and that he was in it to make big business (particularly big oil) even bigger. He had a plan and he followed it. He might have said prior to being elected that he would be a "uniter, not a divider," but he NEVER tried to unite anyone once he got into office. With Bush, it was and is his way or the highway. He was fortunate enough to be able to rely on the nation's coming together after 9/11 to push things he otherwise never would have gotten. Then he took all the goodwill this country had and totally crapped on it. Inexperience is not what caused him to do that.

Frankly, unless HRC can tell us exactly what the heck she did while Bill was governor and president, I don't see how she can possibly rely on her "experience" as first lady to pad her resume. She has a term and a half of experience in the Senate and she has used that for nothing other than as a springboard toward the presidency. Obama has done more in his short time in the Senate than HRC has done during her entire "35 years" of experience.

I wish to God someone would question her about exactly what her experience is. But nobody in the press has the cajones to do that and I don't understand why. It's a completely valid question. As for her "hands-on" management skills, if her statement that she voted to authorize the war in Iraq because she (a) didn't take the time to read the intelligence reports, and (b) thought it was instead a bill allowing investigators to get back into Iraq (which I don't believe for a minute because even I, a non-Senator, knew exactly what the vote was about, as did all Americans), then I've seen enough of her management skills, or lack thereof. She has no right to criticize Obama on this point. But she can't win by relying on her own record, so on she'll go, attacking, attacking, attacking. And unfortunately it'll probably work.

GingerT   January 17th, 2008 9:00 am ET

As a previous poster said, I'm sick of her commenting on every little think Barrack says. If he sneezed she would say, "He sneezed. He's always sick. We need a president who will be healthy. I will be that president. For 35 years I have never been sick or missed a day." This is getting exhausting.

marie   January 17th, 2008 8:57 am ET

The 35 years experience thing continues to be brought up by some and is a valid question. What I feel is important to recognize is that during this time Hillary has had to overcome many people’s negative opinion of her and Bill and yet she continues to serve our country as a Senator. No one if honest, likes to go to work everyday and find it necessary to deal with co-workers who might not like them for whatever reason. She has demonstrated she has the ability to work effectively with even her enemies. If this isn’t an important quality for our next president I don’t know what is. It is unfortunate, but obvious, America is currently not on everyone’s best friend list.

Theo   January 17th, 2008 8:57 am ET

Tamika,

Be careful, because a "breath of fresh air" can quickly turn into pollution.

Black Man, Philly PA   January 17th, 2008 8:54 am ET

Glenn, Cary, NC January 16, 2008 5:44 pm ET

To put it simply, the opposite of experience is not change, it's inexperience. I would have welcomed the opportunity to vote for Barack Obama eight or twelve years from now, assuming he worked hard to get ready for the job; but, as of now, he isn't prepared. All of us who though we knew everything when we were 20 or 30 or 40 and who are able to look back on those days realize how foolish we were. It frightens me that Obama claims credit for some special brand of wisdom that doesn't depend on knowledge or achievement. Wisdom doesn't suddenly sprout like a weed in a man's soul, it grows slowly over time like a garden. Young Mr. Obama has a lot of gardening ahead of him.
___________________________________
Question Glenn: Should Obama spend 8 years in the White House as a spouse? Will that satisfy your requirement for experience and hard work?

Obama-man   January 17th, 2008 8:50 am ET

Compare the "organizational requirements" of a President to that of a CEO of a large successful corporation. How many CEOs get involved in the day-to-day operation of "the office"? Not many I'd imagine. And I can't imagine Bill Gates walking around making sure that all of his employees are getting their work done.

Hillary is picking nits . . . anything to fill the air with negativity regarding her opponents. She will not get my vote. Ever.

cas   January 17th, 2008 8:49 am ET

Get real OBAMA fans. He will never win the Presidency in white America. Only the Republicans wants him to win to win as Democratic Nominee. If Obama wins the nomination, brace yourself for another term of republican President and Republican controlled congress. Obama will bring down with him all the Senators and Congressman running in the Democratic ticket. It's not the right time yet. Go for Vice Presidents position first. CLINTON/POWELL ticket would be awesome!!!

cyrille   January 17th, 2008 8:49 am ET

,, I AM ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE NOT IN MY ABILITY TO BRING ABOUT REAL CHANGE IN WASHINGTON...I AM ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE IN YOURS,,

BARACK OBAMA

Common´ Hillary say something now...since that´s ur hobby well spent with your lobby.

cyrille   January 17th, 2008 8:46 am ET

–Thomas Jefferson was 33 when he wrote the Declaration of independance

– Martin Luther King was 26 when he led the Montgommery Bus boycott

– Cesar Chavez was 35 when he co-founded the United Farm Workers

– Mother Theresa was 38 when she heeded the call to help people in poverty

Now it took CLINTON her so called 35 years of experience to find her voice ( all just as first Lady of Arkansas and D.C with no security clearance to take part to meeting )

Now again tell me why B.O is too young or inexperience to be President again?

Common´

Mary   January 17th, 2008 8:45 am ET

I just wonder if Tamika would make the same statement if Barack were white.

Black Man, Philly PA   January 17th, 2008 8:44 am ET

This crap is getting so ridiculous. I can't wait for it to be over. Hopefully, it's not Clinton.

Retha   January 17th, 2008 8:32 am ET

Hillary did a great job! I think that obama will be just like bush and we don't need this for the next four years. Obama makes for a good preacher.

ABC   January 17th, 2008 8:28 am ET

HRC is actually right about her biggest weakness is that she cares too much (for NOT BE ELECTED the PRESIDENT of USA) !

ABC 08!

Anonymous   January 17th, 2008 8:24 am ET

" we are in a recession because went into Iraq and paid trillion of dollars based on a lie that hillary agreed upon."

That's part of it. But another reason our economy is in the state it is in has to do with the Clintons.

1) Bill Clinton enacted NAFTA, the so called "free-trade agreement" which has cost the US millions of Jobs.

2) Bill Clinton expanded the H-1 and L-1 visa programs to bring millions more workers to the US, mainly from India and China, but also from countries like Russia, Pakitan, and even Vietnam. These workers have taken millions of good paying middle class away from Americans, and mainly in the areas of high-tech, computers, telecommunications, and technology.

3) Both Clintons favored outsourcing. Bill Clinton allowed and encouraged the outsourcing of millions of jobs during his presidency. Hillaryas Senator of Ny brought the #1 outsourcer of US jobs to India (TATA Consulting, look it up) into Buffalo, NY. They outsource $4 billion worth of US jobs annually, and they employ 10 people in NY.

Combine this with the massive inflow of illegal immigrants taking low paying unskilled jobs, such as construction, and you can see why our economy is in the tank. Alot of people want to blame Bush, and much of it is his fault, but the Clintons also share much of the blame. After all, a Clinton or a Bush has been president for the past 20 years. Many kids have grown up seeing no other name as president.

Susuviri   January 17th, 2008 8:10 am ET

WOW! Hillary is digging herself into a bigger hole. I think that Obama is smart by remaining above the frivolous argument that Hillary is trying to pick! She has done so much damage to her image that come Nevada primary, no amount of tears will wash away her sins. Just keep smiling Obama camp! This is actually good news. Hillary supporters, beware! You think that Obama is not going after HIllary because he can't? Well the bad news is because he WON'T and that makes him a better man in the eyes of the voters.

Walt, Belton, TX   January 17th, 2008 8:10 am ET

BRENDA,

You make an excellent case! Just the facts. Great article and great thoughts! Thank you.

marie   January 17th, 2008 8:05 am ET

Clinton's voice cracks when answering a question in NH and it gets spun as a major emotional breakdown.

Clinton addresses Obama's statement regarding his organization skills and it makes headlines as an attack.

If you really wish to analyze something – try to figure out what Rove is doing. He makes headlines stating how Obama can beat Hillary, He then comes out giving info to Hillary on what she should do and now he is making headlines on what the Republicans need to do to beat the Dems. Interesting.

Casey   January 17th, 2008 7:54 am ET

Yeah, and how about we don't hand you the Presidency until two seconds before you're ready- in 2016! You need some more training my man!

Obama 2016!

HILLARY 2008!

Sara M   January 17th, 2008 7:44 am ET

Dear God,

While I understand that everyone has the right the thier opinion, would it be too much to ask that cheerleaders stop to think for themselves instead of having a mob mentality that blindly follows whoever looks pretty and talks big?

I mean...Doesn't content, accountability and actual works mean ANYTHING anymore? Is it really a show of integrity to make promises you don't even have the power TO KEEP, but make people think you could?

Is it really a sign of equality to belong to a church that celebrates a race over an actual god? Is it really equal to pledge BLIND DEVOTION to another country? Especially when that country played just as big a part of selling slaves as other countries did in buying them? Especially when Blind Devotion to Another Country means that you consider a country that is NOT the united states to be your home, but then claim you want to be President?

I thought home was where you lived...Does that mean my home is really somewhere in Poland or Sweden? Maybe it's Ireland, I have some of that too.

Also, I can't help but wonder if it's fair to say someone isn't racsist when the church they belong to boldly defines itself by RACE?! I thought Church was supposed to be about you, God...so why would it be about Race and Countries?

And God, one more thing...if you don't mind?

I'm really confused about how someone can say they are pro-life but then praise the death penalty, and not regret the actions of War. Isn't War supposed to be one of those last resort things? Why do we keep rushing into it as if we have to measure what might be in someone's pants? I understand that sometimes, people have to do things they don't want to do, but it makes me really nervous when some people use it as if it were a Sports Car.

So, if I vote for a woman, who if she were a man, would be seen as powerful, (instead of an expletive starting with a B) than I am a fem-nazi, and if I speak out against a black man running for president, (Even if he reminds me of a used-car-salesman who doesn't realize that the cars he is selling don't belong to him) than I'm in danger of being considered predjudice; Does this mean that I have to be black to speak out against a black, and a man to approve of a woman?

I didn't think that race or gender had anything to do with my vote, but I can't help but think we're all idiots if we can claim that there aren't predjudice people, (and not just white people) or chauvenist pigs, (And not just men) who keep trying to back up thier claim by saying that black people this, or woman that. (Can I say idiots? Or am I going to risk being called a bigot for being judgemental against stupid people? It's hard to tell these days, because -everything- is something to protest..(which makes me wonder if people even care what they are protesting against as long as someone else is doing it with them and it looks important?)

I'm told that I'm a liberal scum person because I believe we shouldn't let our children starve and grow up ignorant; and others call me conservative scum because I think that it's wrong to be selfish by killing children just so you don't have to acknowledge another life by claiming there isn't one if you don't see it.

And God? Everyone seems to get pissy when I say that I Don't believe in Gay Marriage, but that I think Civil Unions should be what decides a tax break and not marriage...and that EVERYONE has a right to that, not just straight people.
(I mean, what right do we have to give people a tax break based on religion anyway...you never did like taxes, so isn't that sort of an insult?)

So does that make me a conserva-liber-independ-demo-repub-soc-ican?

If you could answer these questions, I'd feel a whole lot less dissappointed with the human race...especially the portion of it that lives in the infant country that seems to have forgotten that just because it's been a few hundred years, doesn't suddenly make us older than everyone else. (or wiser)...or less broke!

Thanks you!

A very confused American.

Nowhere Man   January 17th, 2008 7:41 am ET

Yeah, like Bill was a "hands-on" manager too. He had his hands on everyone but Hillary.

Bimmer   January 17th, 2008 7:33 am ET

Candy Crowley stating what the other person confessed in great details in National TV is not attacking the person.

How can anyone trust her reporting if she distort sand sensationalizes the facts we know?

Pathetic is the word to describe CNN's bias towards one candidate.

The unbiased title should be "Obama is disorganized and loses important papers."

Bimmer   January 17th, 2008 7:25 am ET

This is outrageous that the moderators letd the profanity by Rico Deezay directed towards the Clintons be published but they are yet to publish the following comments by me:

"Obama's confession about his poor organizational skills and losing papers unless handed in two second before he needs it explain why he is so great when he gives speeches but seems unprepared in the debate.

In each deabte, he is being beaten by Clinton on substance. He scores a point here and there for style.

He will be a good motivational speaker, perhaps for Annex Learning but a questionable choice for the Presidency of the most powerful nation on earth."

Who are these moderators? What's their motives?

rmsk   January 17th, 2008 7:25 am ET

Obama as a president??????? the nation will not vote for him. Hillary can win the nation election. We do not want AL Gore 2.

AJ; Montpelier, VT   January 17th, 2008 7:22 am ET

Tamika Jackson posted:

"I find it sickening that any of my black brothers and sisters would vote for Hillary Clinton. "

You know what TAMIKA, I find racist trash like you to be sickening. You and your ilk run around screaming and moaning and pulling your hair and calling every white prson you see "racist" but can hardly restrain your own hatred for white people. And people dont think that this campaign is all about race..
Anyone want to take wagers on how bad the riots are if Obama does not win??

Renee   January 17th, 2008 7:15 am ET

Some talk about Obama not being organize with paper on his desk or experience.. This have nothing to do with becoming a wonderful President because take President Bush for example the people said he have experience and his former master mind Karl Rove look at this country it is in a mess with all thier experience.. Obama has tap into something on running this country and it is for the good. If you listen to Obama he cares about the people bring people together for the common good. Hilliary Clinton on the debate she was wrong when she was speaking about different issues and downing President Bush for going over to the Middle East she talked about doing the same things.and also the White house speaker shown by Fox News said that HIlliary Clinton is so eager to be elected that she would say anything.

AJ; Montpelier, VT   January 17th, 2008 7:15 am ET

Obama said "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it,"

Wow – qualities that we are looking for in the person entrusted to run the nation, right. I bet G. W. Bush says the same thing....

Barbara   January 17th, 2008 7:03 am ET

People need to take a quantum leap
forward with a new President and First Lady Obama and his
dedicated wife Michelle are ready to fulfil that responsibility now. We need fresh ideas for our young people the Clinton's have already had their turn need we delve into their past once more. I hear young people of all races wishing for change in their lives not to mention their children's future is seriously at stake.
Michelle Obama is hot she is standing by Barack against the Clinton's
big money and political background that takes tremendous heart and trust with her own desire to see effective change in America. I feel with Michelle as First Lady she has much to offer our youth and adult female voters. We need to listen
carefully to Obama and give Michelle a chance too if we are truly working
towards the same goals.
The Obama's are fired up and ready to go !

William   January 17th, 2008 6:57 am ET

Harem days are back again. Prosperity days are back again. Everybody drinking Cool-aid and electing HillyBilly – two for the price of one as President.

Go HillyBilly 2008

Diane   January 17th, 2008 6:54 am ET

Maybe I've missed something, but isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

Exactly what management experience does Mrs Clinton have? Oh, that's right, NONE!!

She also shows how naive she is about what COOs and CEOs do, and how that might relate to the role of President. No CEO I know or have worked with managed the bureacracy – that's why they have a PA, Chief of Staff, and management team. The CEO works with the Board to set the vision and strategy and ensure that the systems and people are in place to execute. The role is much more about stakeholder management than micromanagement, something Mr Obama can deliver much more effectively than Mrs Clinton.

Michael, MN   January 17th, 2008 6:51 am ET

Cant you people see that this country needs BARACK OBAMA!!
Enough with the same old politics...lets have the courage to try something new!!

charlotte   January 17th, 2008 6:46 am ET

I'm sure Barrack Hussien Obamas' name will evoke something. what kind of allies remains to be seen, first he has to win. We sure know what the name Bush evokes around the world. My beloved country, the USA, is suffering a lot of anti-everything. We have lost so much respect, can anyone get it back. It will take a long time and a President who can get it done. Action speak louder then words. We don't need a silver tongue that talks and talks. Can Obama walk the walk.

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 17th, 2008 6:45 am ET

Curious in Charleston is absolutely right. WHERE is the concrete evidence of Hillary's "35 years of experience/change"? Just because a candidate says something...and says it...and says it doesn't make it true. Her supporters have a clear case of echolalia: she makes a claim and they repeat it like a mantra without even researching it.

As for the issue of a president's managerial skills...George W. Bush has transformed the presidency in the past seven years and has done everything he can to try and turn it into a benevolent dictatorship, where he has unilateral power over the other branches. Nothing Hillary Clinton has said during her campaign has convinced me she would choose to reverse that.

She dismisses Bush's "politics of fear"...then turns around minutes later and says we need a leader who can handle a terrorist attack on day one.

How anyone can trust this woman–let alone with the presidency–is beyond me.

Nando   January 17th, 2008 6:40 am ET

Hillary will get you a 20% discount at OFFICE MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you vote for her and the SECs CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Susan   January 17th, 2008 6:39 am ET

Give me a break Hillary ....get real....Obama is the only candidate that had the courage enough to answer the question truthfully....I admire someone who can really take his or her own personal inventory....I would gladly vote for someone who truly knows and is aware of all their faults and weaknesses....All human beings have weaknesses and faults...and after all we are voting for a human being for our next president not a God.....The truly frightening thing is to have a president who is blind to his or her weaknesses like our current President Bush........LISTEN UP FOLKS...DO WE WANT A PRESIDENT WHO IS TRUTHFUL AND HONEST ??????????? VOTE OBAMA 08

Hillarylover in Texas   January 17th, 2008 6:39 am ET

Hispanics love and support Clinton. Read about this incredible woman. She has done everything to try and make things better in this country. She is by far the best candidate. Our country is probably at its most vulnerable since its history. We need strength. We need Clinton.

Funsho   January 17th, 2008 6:33 am ET

I'm sick and tired of the politics of attacks that the Clintons often play.
Bill and Hillary probably need to grow-up and quit all this whining and warping whenever things don;t go their way.
The task of a leader far transcends paperwork as it involves deep-seated thinking and the ability to effectively engage in logical and analytical reasoning.I doubt if Mrs.Clinton truly possesses a quantum of this virtues,there is more to politics than attacks.Mrs.Clinton lays claim to experience and organisational skills but how do we as Americans reconcile the fact that she voted for this war in Iraq in 2002 plunging thousands of families into untold agonies for a most unnecessary war and again gave Bush the blank check on Iran in 2007-declaring the Army of a sovereign Islamic nation as a terrorist organisation. Or on what basis does she call Bush pathetic ?....am almost sure she will make a worse president compared to President Bush.A good leader must first rule his or her own emotions before ruling the affairs of a nation.I can only hope that Americans especially the women folk will learn to read beyond just gender camaraderie because of challenging times ahead.Let's all bear in mind that thousands of mothers are now mourning the tragic loss of their Sons and daughters all over this country for an ill-advised war....Ladies please be careful who you vote into the most sacred office in the land...this is serious business and I believe you are smart enough to make the right judgement. And if theDemocrats are so unfortunate that they nominate Hillary,then 45% of the democrats opposed to her will swing into the Republican Party,regardless of their candidate in general election.
God bless America!!!

Smartie   January 17th, 2008 6:21 am ET

This comment and a couple of others from the Clintons are true reflection of what kind of service or disservice they will be to America.
I hope Americans,both the people and the press ,will awake from their intellectual slumber....and bring back the good old days of sound reasoning and analytical thinking.No wonder we are being laughed at by the outsideworld as being incapable of sustaining an intelligent discourse.This kind of unprintable insults in a presidential debate are not only an unfortunate diversion from reasoning,but also a misrepresentation of the American spirit ,hope there's still one.It begs my imagination that Mrs.Clinton's campaign can degenerate so low to this pitiable level of ideologic poverty .I only hope she's not gonna accuse the press and the Obama campaign for characterisation,as she normally does.It's time we realised that the American nation is at the edge of another intellectual blunder should Mrs.Clinton be elected.
I can only hope that the women folk will reason with me.I believe that there are millions of bright and brilliant women out there rather than this kind of pettiness.

Thanks.

AnaHadWolves   January 17th, 2008 6:14 am ET

Wow...all these poor and deluded people are willing to vote for Barack Obama simply because he is a "brothah"? Yeah, that's right, go ahead and exclude competency in favor of skin-tone. Barack Obama...since he eschews "details" such as business-management ability and a clear, cogent and focused mind...is just George W. Bush with a better tan. His lack of management ability is a legitimate area for discussion. Dubya has the exact same problem.

Those who slam Hillary while touting Barack simply play into the hands of the Republicans. Matter of fact, dividing the party and causing infighting between two strong candidates sounds very familiar: Karl Rove (remember the evil garbage thrown at John McCain in South Carolina in 2000?) and the late, un-lamented Lee Atwater (remember the Willie Horton ads of 1988?) and their egregious tactics are seemingly at work.

Matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this entire imbroglio weren't a product of the Republican slime machine, led by Karl Rove, designed purely to divide...and, conquer.

The fetid fingerprints of that pudgy, pink, pile of poo known as Karl Rove are all over this one.

BCNU purple state, usa   January 17th, 2008 6:11 am ET

She reminds me so much of a Commander I had in a small unit in Turkey while I was in the Air Force. The "I'm a woman and am the big cheese here!" type. She had no idea of the technical work we were doing, and wasn't nearly as intelligent as most of our group, yet, had to try and micromanage everything we did. There were things we did on a daily basis and had ALL of the procedures streamlined and things running as smoothly as possible, but she always wanted to change the way we did things so she could show her influence on the unit and score points to achieve higher rank.

Things were incredibly miserable. There were times we found her wanting us to skirt around proper procedure to suit her urgent needs, yet we all had to conform to procedures she put in place that made our work less efficient. A couple of times these 'favors' for her were actually breaches in security, and when advised of the fact, she would tell us "I'm the commander, I make that decision!"

Sorry, sister, you DON'T make that decision. Of course, anyone standing up to her (even though they were correct) would suffer incredible wrath and anger.

She had an incredible temper most times, but every now and then, when you'd expect to someone get railed for something they'd done, they would come out of her office as if just leaving grandma's house and having milk and cookies.

The end result was she got 'reassigned' after the IG came for a visit and saw what was going on.

I see so many parallels between her and Hillary that it actually scares me!

Funsho   January 17th, 2008 5:41 am ET

I'm sick and tired of the politics of attacks that the Clintons often play.
Bill and Hillary probably need to grow-up and quit all this whining and warping whenever things don;t go their way.
The task of a leader far transcends paperwork as it involves deep-seated thinking and the ability to effectively engage in logical and analytical reasoning.I doubt if Mrs.Clinton truly possesses a quantum of this virtues,there is more to politics than attacks.Mrs.Clinton lays claim to experience and organisational skills but how do we as Americans reconcile the fact that she voted for this war in Iraq in 2002 plunging thousands of families into untold agonies for a most unnecessary war and again gave Bush the blank check on Iran in 2007-declaring the Army of a sovereign Islamic nation as a terrorist organisation. Or on what basis does she call Bush pathetic ?....am almost sure she will make a worse president compared to President Bush.A good leader must first rule his or her own emotions before ruling the affairs of a nation.I can only hope that Americans especially the women folk will learn to read beyond just gender camaraderie because of challenging times ahead.Let's all bear in mind that thousands of mothers are now mourning the tragic loss of their Sons and daughters all over this country for an ill-advised war....Ladies please be careful who you vote into the most sacred office in the land...this is serious business and I believe you are smart enough to make the right judgement.
God bless America!!!

chuks   January 17th, 2008 5:32 am ET

In the begining my head was with the clintons while my heart was with obama. I was really in a fix as to who to support until I made the following startling discoveries:
1, Obama is a leader while clinton is a manager.
2, Obama is a motivator while clinton is a demotivator.
3,Clinton is perhaps better experienced but obama has a better sense of judgement.
4, obama has vision, clinton has division.
5, obama inspires, clinton expires
IN conclusion, obama is the kind of leader I can die for. I am so sorry but I cant do the same for the clintons.

Tony-Jean   January 17th, 2008 5:02 am ET

Bush/Clinton dynasties: The American people must be extremely lucky because those two families love us so much that they'll stop at nothing to "lead" America in the "right" direction. How very nice, thoughtful and unselfish of them. Who cares if they give us wars, scandals, and the only impeached president in our history...after all they love us so so much.
Why should we choose someone who's not a member of the Bush/Clinton dynasties? After all these years, we've been institutionalized, we've learned to love them. They bring us wars, controversies, sex scandals, lies (while pointing to cameras with the index finger), impeachment, internet bubbles.. ingredients that are much needed in a society like ours. We love them, as they love us. They shed tears for us because they don't want us to fall back. So we can all kiss and forget.
Why risk changing the pattern now, we've gone that long and we're still here alive. Why chance change? It might bring about the end of the world, or worse: proves us wrong in thinking no other names/families can lead this nation. We've been in our comfort zone for decades now. We don't need change. It might come with hard work, even if it doesn't come after decades of hard work. But like I said before, we don't need it. We fear it...to be honest.
We, the American people, need those two dynasties to survive, just as much as they need us. We need each other...for better or worse.
Well, maybe we can switch it up a little: Laura Bush in 20012, and yes.....she will have plenty of "experience" by then. But the again, what do I know? God bless American, the land of the free.

Paulo   January 17th, 2008 5:01 am ET

Hillary is just pathetic !!!
How can a presidential candidate be this obsessed with mudslinging other candidates ? and believe me guys,it's a shame that she
has gone this far in the entire race and I'm begining to question our corporate intelligence as Americans perhaps we all need to read between the lines and stop being manipulated by HRC.

May I also challenge Mrs.Clinton to at least leave up to her name,let Hillary be truly Hillarious !
All we want is an intelligent discourse about how you will manage the humongous affairs of this great country and not pepper-spray.

Thanks.

Obama08   January 17th, 2008 4:46 am ET

The question was what is your weakness?

Clinton and Edward gave dishonest or political answer (One gets angry and the other gets inpatient on behalf off poor people)

Obama gave honest answer in my opinion.

Jada Smith   January 17th, 2008 4:41 am ET

All of you on the blog who believe she made a valid argument, lack true 'managerial intelligence!' I have been the CEO of several multimillion dollar corporations which are still in existence, whose revenues rose significantly during my tenure. I am by no means a micro manager nor do I consider myself organized however I can run a business well and make effective change! He was making a joke! Get over yourselves!

Paulo   January 17th, 2008 4:35 am ET

That Hillary Clinton is a double-faced diabolical woman can onlybe said tobe truism.Reasons being that she says something and then does another always for Political expediencies at different times and era.These are the hallmarks of a brutal,manipulative person who might be a liability in leadership and the fact that she's gone this far in the presidential race is a wholesale testimony that we Americans are a people of questionable intelligence and character corroded by prejudiced reasoning.Anybody else will do other than Hillary Clinton....there's nothing Hillarious about Hillary.....Let Mrs.Clinton know that Americans want to see an intelligence discourse about how she's gonna manage our country and not these venomous vitriolic comments about other candidates for which she will soon blame the press or other campaigns for characterisations .....all she wants is power by all and any means possible.And if she's run out of brainy intelligence,I believe it's never too late to leave the stage when the ovation is loudest.
Sadly enough,I can almost tell that this great nation CAN NOT be effectively managed under a polarizing Hillary Clinton and should she be elected .....I can only wish America the best of luck in years ahead.She used to have me and my family but in this she's lost totally

Thanks.

lorenzo   January 17th, 2008 4:32 am ET

I agree with you Tamika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shaun   January 17th, 2008 4:05 am ET

hillary clinton and her team of demons are very clever and but so so stupid. There trying there hardest to attack obamas message of hope by presenting a reason to doubt him, but with every new smear tactic she's managing to alienate from her own supporters. I have to believe that the american people are smart, and won't allow this type of politics to sway there vote, but if not we will have to deal with a leader who will not unite the country, but divide it. Republicans are obsessed with power, so when they lose the white house they'll retaliate with absolute partisanship. They want the american public to see a demoratic president fail. They want the dem to make promises to the people, and not be able to deliver, which will set them up for reelection in 2012. This is why we need a uniter like obama which can work across party lines and achieve real change. It's not important that we have the first woman president, or the first african american president, but we need someone that can get stuff done. We need a leader that can broker peace around the world, and has the vision and judgement to make hard decisions in this new world of crisis. Hillary is very smart, and I think she makes a good senator, but she's no president, and if she's given this mantle, we will see the continuation of americas slide into oblivian and a fall from being the super power we've been for the last 100 years

JAM, CA   January 17th, 2008 3:31 am ET

"O" man is an authority on delegating, the number one quality in a great leader.

JAM, CA   January 17th, 2008 3:29 am ET

SHE who shall not be named has the definite aura of a "hands-on, micro-managing negative mother style," which is not what this country needs right now. Her alleged talents would be better utilized in the Senate until her term ends.

BTW, her attack style, warriorish campaign style manner is really getting old and super negative. I don't see an ounce of leadership quality in her eyes, just a fighter, always fighting something, rarely uniting. Her campaign must be scrambling because she's not the single, clear front runner anymore. Hello to a real race because the American people have awoken from their long, fearful sleep created by the Bush Rove Cheney administration. Bring on November.

MARYLOU JONES   January 17th, 2008 3:27 am ET

OOPS, CAN'T LET TAMIKA JACKSON"S POST GO UN-NOTICED. YOU WOULDN'T BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION BE PLAYING "THE RACE CARD" WOULD YOU??? "ALL MY BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS"?????? "WHAT HAS SHE EVER DONE FOR BLACK FOLKS?" , "MORE YOUNG BLACK MEN WENT TO PRISON WHEN HER HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT", WHAT??????????? ARE YOU REALLY BLAMING BILL CLINTON FOR ALL THE YOUNG BLACK MEN WHO WENT TO PRISION???? WHAT????? THIS SURE SOUNDS LIKE "THE RACE CARD" TAMIKA. DON'T THINK OBAMA WOULD APPROVE OF THIS. TAKE SOME TIME OUT OF YOUR ANGRY RANTINGS AND DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW, ASK FOR HELP.

MARYLOU JONES   January 17th, 2008 3:20 am ET

OMG! THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICANS CONTINUES................I CANNOT, OF COURSE, ADDRESS ALL THE FALSE INFORMATION IN THESE POSTS SO I WILL JUST ADDRESS ONE. FOR BRENDA WHO WANTS TO KNOW " OMG wake-up woman-you just AREN'T all that. WHAT D*** experience are you talking about. YOU WERE FIRST LADY. You weren't even the first to hyphenate your last name (Edith Galt-Wilson). There is NOTHING original about you. Just a reminder, YOU DID NOT HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCE TO BE IN MEETINGS. So, what meetings were you at? And, when were you there? And, WHY were you there?" SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON IS A UNITED STATES SENATOR AND HAS BEEN FOR 7 YEARS. ONE OF HER DUTIES AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IS TO SIT ON THE SENATE'S ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. ONE OF THEIR DUTIES IS TO LOOK AT "EMERGING THREATS AND CAPABILITIES" AND AS A FORMER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKER, I KNOW SHE SURE HAS A SECURITY CLEARANCE, PROBABLY HIGHER THAN MY TOP SECRET CLEARANCE. IF YOU POSTERS REALLY WANT THE TRUTH, THE FACTS ABOUT SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON, SPEND SOME OF YOUR TIME ON THE SENATE WEB SITE. THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. OH, JUST ONE MORE THING, SENATOR CLINTON DID NOT, REPEAT NOT, AUTHORIZE GEORGE W. BUSH TO GO TO WAR. LOOK IT UP!!!!!

Joe   January 17th, 2008 3:15 am ET

This article twisted a fun comment Obama made about himself, and did not include the rebuttal. I know CNN wants to create good theatre, but this is just poor form. Bad journalism. At least he didn't say, "I just wish I didn't care so much~"

Rus, Whitburn   January 17th, 2008 3:14 am ET

Traditionally the establishment candidate (Gore, Mondale, etc) has won the Democratic primary over candidates that represented a new direction (Bradley, Hart, etc). However this time the establishment is represented by someone (Hillary) with a very different c.v. The pundits and bloggers hover about the truth, but most recognize that Obama and Hillary have similar backgrounds in government and public service. Gore and Mondale had long, diverse records of experience, and were in that sense the 'safe' choice. Hillary is not a safe choice in the same way, even with Bill as first laddie. The safe choices (e.g. Richardson & Biden) have dropped out – not enough votes. I think the reason is that 8 years later, people are desperate for something new. People know the Clintons, and the Clintons know how to get votes, but they don't represent something new. For that, you need Obama.

Joe   January 17th, 2008 3:12 am ET

Right on Powell! I also dont understand why the disenfranchised think Clinton will help them. Take a leap of faith people.

Adam   January 17th, 2008 3:06 am ET

TERRIBLE ARTICLE.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

HE SAID THAT WHEN ASKED ON THE DEBATE "What is your greatest strength and what is your greatest weakness" – he was the ONLY ONE who answered HONESTLY while the other two said b.s. like "I care too much" or "I push too hard".

THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE IS A CLINTON SUPPORTER.

What TERRIBLE journalism.

I hope you'll still get your checks from the Clinton campaign when she LOSES.

How do you SLEEP AT NIGHT? SERIOUSLY?

kcee   January 17th, 2008 3:01 am ET

Although I am not an American, I can't help but to share my 5 cents worth about the election coz any mistakes in electing the wrong President of the most powerful country in the world would have an untold damage on the rest of the world. Obama continuous emphasis on the message of hope and praying for cure of the all ills that had befallen America, sounds to me too intangible and remote. I would rather stick with somebody who is capable and has the experience, never mind that it's a woman.

Ross Lippincott; Davenport Iowa.   January 17th, 2008 3:00 am ET

Tom Davie

Tom and Hillary sittin in a tree K I S S I N G !

OBAMA / EDWARDS 08!!!!!!!!!!

me   January 17th, 2008 2:52 am ET

Rico – I am a female and should be very offended by your comment, but instead I just laughed so hard I choked on my drink. That was too funny!

Needless to say, I hate the idea of Hillary as president. I want a woman to be in the White House, but I want it to be a woman who is a POSITIVE role model and one that will pave the way for more women to be the leader of this country. Unfortunately, Hillary is not that woman. She is a lying, scheming, egotistic glory hound that only cares about winning – not about the country or the people she is going door to door to see. I might add the CAREFULLY SCREENED people she is going to see. I am all for media seeing someone go door to door and greet people, but let's do it on the fly where it is not staged.

I've got an idea...a reality presidentail campaign show...cameras 24/7. I think then you would get an idea of who these people really are and how much scheming goes on. :)

Bob, Florida - RFO   January 17th, 2008 2:01 am ET

I support Barack Obama even with his less experience compared to Hillary's. Not sure how Rummy and Chaney made so many errors given all the experience they have!

Never underestimate the "vision" thing! Unless mentioning Obama and Reagan in the same sentence gives the Clinton Tag Team another reason to attack!

I just hope the GOP don't wise up and run a Mitt/Condi ticket !!!!!

Go Barack '08

Angela   January 17th, 2008 1:54 am ET

Once again people are unable to comment unitelligently and just write offensive remarks.
Look at the title: According to CNN if Senator Clinton makes remarks about her rivals she is accused of attacking – however if her rivals talk about her they are making a well reasoned point – CNN your coverage is biased especially since this subject was discussed on the ticker yesterday under another title.
According to some of the people posting here the President of the United States shouldn't be a manager. Okay reality check – hundreds of page of information is put in front of the President every day and he/she should have the ability to be organized and also able to get into the details. Legislation is complicated – the budget was 1000's of pages long alone. A President is supposed to be able to make an informed decision based on the information they receive – not all of it can be provided by briefings from Staff because then you might as well have them be President. The President of the United States is not a figurehead he/she is supposed to be the leader of the worlds remaining superpower.

Charles Martin   January 17th, 2008 1:49 am ET

...just in 2 weeks she has used the emotional card, race card, gender card, offend people of color ( know matter how she explains it) manipulates Obama's words and has her backing union try to sue the Culinary Union in Nevada for votes....come on.....this is all within the last 2 weeks. Then Blames the Obama campaign and the Media because they are trying to distort her image.

I am so glad that 35 yrs of experience she has found her voice.

Can you imagine her for the next 8 years....I am tired of it all ready.

Hope LV,NV   January 17th, 2008 1:49 am ET

Proud Florida Democrat do your research John Edwards and Sen. Obama skipped the michigan primaries as they were asked by the National party due to party violations and as a sign of uniformity they withdrew their names. HRC did not. I don't think their intentions were to snub the people of michigan but to enforce fair practices.
And to John Edwards crew it is so refreshing that even while being in the "third "position and often ignored by HRC you have yet to speak ill of Sen. Obama( who often compliments his fellow dems and I have seen him do so in person on several occasions) or Clinton while when HRCis (allegedly on top) stills slings mud on the little people.

PW Va   January 17th, 2008 1:48 am ET

Hillary has no humiltiy about her all...case in point, she started this whole bruhaha concerning Senator Obama invoking the names of Dr. King and President Kennedy into his speech and then when she and her neanderthals (otherwise known as supporters ie: Johnson, Rangel to mention a few) catch heat from their ignorant remarks (1) she doesn't have the common decency to apologize to Senator Obama or the American public and (2) she does not denounce the divisive remarks of her "attack dogs."

She's no better than a common THUG!!! And we've had it up to here with that mentality coming from the present administration

David from Texas   January 17th, 2008 1:46 am ET

Go Hillary! You did a great job. I didn't think Obama made the best impression when he made that comment. I would not think that kind of a comment would go over well in an interview. I have two Administrative Assistants that keeps my messy desk clean-however, I would never go to a job interview and reveal this to someone that I wanted to impress. After all, each of these people are interviewing for the top job in our nation. I thought the truce was about race-not about normal campaign "got you" moments.

I do respect everyones opinion-this campaign is not as important to me as holding my beloved Democratic party together-We are all family with differences. I disagree with my own family on many issues-but in the end we always find common ground that keeps us together. I think any of the top three Democratic candidates would be better than any one of the Republicans. GO DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUDIE   January 17th, 2008 1:23 am ET

Hillary seems to suggest that with her hands on management things will move pretty well.how wrong, she can organise her desk, do all the filing, and fire some staff to do it herself as she seems to suggest, BUT WITHOUT AVISION THE PEOPLE PERISH.So, no vision, no future however smart you manipulate the beaurocracy and organise your desk with your Hands on attitude.And anyway lets not forget that before Bill showed up on the campaign trail, things didn't seem to go well in the hillary camp, so once voted, we know who is going to do the job for her,.....

I am not American   January 17th, 2008 1:11 am ET

I am not from the US but I have had the chance to be here for the 2004 election and this one. For some reason I have been so much interested in this campaign. I follow the campaign every day from various sources,, TV news, blog, newspapers, discussing with American friends,..

I have analyzed the way the campaign is going and frankly, I found Hillary acting like if she was desperate. She need badly to win this election. And this is not about passion, emotion, personal like she says,.. but it is all about money! It looks like she is desperate to pay back the lobbyist who have funded her campaign,.. and maybe pressure is being put on her to win by those lobbyists. And this is really bad for America if she get elected. What really confirm this is the fact that her husband, former president Bill who I used to like get in this game. He also look desperate for his wife to win not because he feels like she is the best candidate, but because he knows the deal she/they have with the lobbyist.

if during the campaign, pressure from lobbyist make you cry and go to war with opponent lying, or distorting your opponent comments just to make you look nice, she would do more worse if elected. I understood that what the American people want (at least from discussion on blogs, youtube and colleagues), it is not a cold calculating, fake, untruthful president who tries to make other people think that s/he is perfect. They want not only someone who is inspirational but honest and who can do the job. This seems not to be Hillary from what I saw.

What I see will happen if Hillary campaign (managed by her self as she seems to be saying now) keeps on using the dirty tricks because they are really afraid of Barack wining, then, they will loose lot of their supporters. People seems to be getting tired of this game. The seems to be afraid of Hillary bring the democrats down because of her dirty tricks.

I were to vote (which I am not), I would not vote for her. I wish well for the American people and hope that they get well inspired and choose the leader, the president they deserve. As a non-American, I know how the world see America from outside. People think that America (not the American people) doesn't care about others,..,.. is arrogant. By leaving here, I found that this is NOT true for American themselves. But some of their politicians are the one who are making the world think that way! It is time to choose a leader, a president who can make the world see America differently,.. feel america like they feel American.

doro, USA   January 17th, 2008 1:09 am ET

Obama obviously understands the difference between LEADERSHIP and MAMAGEMENT. Hillary obviously does not, and she'll have cabinet secretaries, agency heads and federal employees from sr. executives to clerical staff pulling their hair out with her hands-on MANAGERIAL style.

An effective leader learns from previous mistakes/experiences; and incorporates new information into their thinking and decision-making as he/she goes along. An effective leader takes responsibility and holds himself/herself accountable. Of these two candidates, Obama demonstrates his ability to do these things, and Hillary has not nailed them yet ..... and may or may not 'cause she skates by with dancing around any issue, then move on.

Jacquelyn, Ann Arbor, Mi.   January 17th, 2008 1:09 am ET

someone above pointed out Obama can talk the talk. He is one of the best speakers Ive seen in my life, but he started going for Presdent a year into his job as Senator. Does he really have the chops ?

Jake, ATL   January 17th, 2008 1:06 am ET

In response to 'democracy?'s' question:

Your question brings up an interesting observation. Whether or not your predisposition to Hillary is democratic is a moot point because in a democracy, all that matters is you're free to chose whomever you wish.

Now back on the 'interesting observation': People are very polarized when it comes to Hillary. Either you love her or hate her. I hope those that support her will admit that this is a GLARING issue with her. Do you really want to risk losing to the Republicans? 1/5 of Dems (hardcore Obama and Edwards supporters) will REFUSE to vote for her and at least 1/2 of the Independents would much rather vote for Romney (in sheer spite) or McCain because he has more integrity. The ONLY way the GOP would lose to her is if Huckabee would be the eventual GOP nominee.

I am one of those people that would never ever vote for Hillary over McCain or Romney. Heck, I'd vote for Ron Paul before I'd vote for her.

Me   January 17th, 2008 1:00 am ET

How about we stay focused on the issues at hand and quit digging for something to attack a great man on. If Hillary had more positive things to say about herself she wouldn't have to negatively focus on her competitions filing techniques. Give me a break!!!

Shell   January 17th, 2008 12:53 am ET

Disorganization is not a quality we can stand to have in a president. How many issues do we face? How many things are there to keep straight? You can't even run a household if you don't have some degree of organizational skills. Seriously, how can you organize a cohesive policy that will work and *bring about* the change that's being talked about if you can't be bothered with the details?

I want order brought back to this country that's been tossed into chaos. Not ideas and dreams backed by nothing. Or is he just the front man for a bunch of other people who are going to do all of the work?

No thanks. I want someone who can put substance behind what they say.

Hillary's done a lot more with her life than be first lady. I wish people would check their facts.

I will gladly vote for Obama if he gets the nom. I am a Democrat, and I believe in the ideals of the party. But, I'm for Hillary at this point. If Obama puts some meat behind what he says, maybe I'll change my mind. I just want what's best for the country and my family.

obaman08   January 17th, 2008 12:51 am ET

RockyDude - are you sure you're in the UK because your analysis was SO TRUE

Few points:
1) I'm tired of HRC supporters crying about how HRC is being "picked on" because she is a woman. GIVE ME A BREAK. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the reason why there are so many "clinton attack" stories out there is because that's how she's running her campaign? Attack, attack, attack. Maybe if she would take some clues from the way Barack is running his campaign, she could be looked at in a more favorable light not only with the media but among the American people as well. Start focusing on your own campaign lady!

2) I do not think that the people that keep asking HOW Barack is planning to change really want to know that answer. IF they did, all it would take is one simple click to barack's WEB SITE where they would get all of his plans laid out and more. And if you don't feel like reading, how about checking out some of the videos he has outlining some of his plans. Sheesh! Stop being lazy people! If you expect to choose your PRESIDENT based on what you see in an 5 minute interview or a debate, then you have serious issues. Those are simply not the outlets to lay out in depth plans, so all you're going to get is high level talk.

3) Could someone PLEASE show me where Hillary's 35 years of experience comes in? Since there seems to be so many HRC supporters, I'm sure at least one should be able to answer.

Kevin, Ca   January 17th, 2008 12:43 am ET

Look what has happened to our country with George Bush's management style...so called macro-management.

It's true that the president doesn't handle things in details, but he/she must understand the bureaucracy to catch and smell the fish. He/she is the decider, alright! but how could one decide when knowing very little on how things work... There is no great scientist w/o knowing how molecules work, no famous musicians w/o understanding and feeling music notes...and do not tell me you could find a great engineer who hates measurement. therefore, there is no great president of United States who hates to find out how governmental agencies of all level operate. President is the CEO of the nation, period..

I've been watching many debates and it seems to me that Obama, like G. Bush, loves to talk big and talk more on the idea rather than discussing issues for substances. As you all know many media political pundits, so called lazy politicians, who prefer to talk about politics as if they understand very well our country. Talking is naturally enjoyable because it gives them big gratification especially when people listen to them, while thinking and doing is lot harder.

We need a president who can think and do things, a president who is realistic, sharp, intelligent, hard-working, and strong. That's why my vote is for Hillary even personally I don't like her much ( she smart and picky like my wife, though)

I like Obama and like to watch his speech b/c he's exciting, and seems honest but sorry can't vote for him.

Ben   January 17th, 2008 12:39 am ET

I always used to say that the people who would ACTUALLY BE good candidates for the presidency WOULD NEVER WANT THE JOB. ALL that changed for me with Barack Obama.

I find this articale to be further proof that UNLIKE Obama, Hillary is willing to do WHATEVER it takes to win.

..too bad it's making her look like a cold blooded shark.

...even worse? It's probably going to work.

Sad.

Pasqualato   January 17th, 2008 12:37 am ET

We are tired of you HRC.

Just shut up for a second.

Angela   January 17th, 2008 12:37 am ET

Wow there is a biased moderator at the helm tonite. Every one of my posts have been deleted. Must be a Republican.
Scared I made some good points??

Thomas - Reno, NV   January 17th, 2008 12:34 am ET

Hillary is grasping for anything at this point. Her supporters are suing Nevada for allowing caucuses in casinos, a plan that was approved by ALL of the democrats in March of last year. 2 days after the Culinary Union stood behind Obama, this lawsuit was filed. She is disparaging her opponents, destroying democracy, and her husband admitted that she supports the lawsuit by saying "We didn't know what this meant when it was approved in 2007." PLEASE!!

Will Howard Dean please wake up and lay down some ground rules for her campaign, or does he even care that she stands to jeopardize any chance we have at taking back this country and getting help to those who need it. The Clinton's will do absolutely anything to keep their LEGACY alive. And her followers are spoon fed, democrats who don't do a single ounce of research about what their candidate is saying or doing.

And please don't say, "well, she isn't behind the lawsuit." If she wasn't supporting it, she would put a stop to it immediately. These are her supporters, and she can ask them to STOP!!

Ito, Yokosuka Japan   January 17th, 2008 12:31 am ET

There she goes with that finger again, pointing it at everyone but herself. Isn't that what President Bush does?

For Obama, being candidadly honest when asked to be is a simple and straight forward matter. For HRC, it's a matter of how to lie and make it sound like the truth.

Do we really want four more years of "more of the same?" C'mon people. HRC is anything but an agent for change. If you believe that then I have some ocean front property in Nevada I will sell you for a good price.

Skip   January 17th, 2008 12:25 am ET

Does anyone remember the last micro managing President we had? He used to maintain the reservation list for the White House tennis court. Jimmy Carter. So Hillary wants to replicate Carter? Tennis anyone?

henriettap   January 17th, 2008 12:18 am ET

Hillary will be chewwed up and spit out by the republicans if she make sit htat far. They are waiting like wolves on the hunt for her to cross their paths.

Patrick, New York,Ny   January 17th, 2008 12:17 am ET

ummm Crowley where is the attack?

Your attacking CLinton saying she is attacking Obama when she isnt

Headline: "Crowley attacks CLinton" is more accurate!!

Veronica   January 17th, 2008 12:14 am ET

Will we elect a President AGAIN that we want to have a beer with? Or will we elect a President who is tested and qualified?

Obama will be great in 8 years. Clinton is ready now. Her answers in the debates are so much more substantive than anyone else's. It's so obvious. What other countries are going to say if Obama is elected is... who is this man? Many world leaders have already met Clinton, and thought highly of Bill. Those relationships are deeply important now. They can't be established overnight. The world is not happy with us, and as they meet with our next leader, they are going to be evaluating experience and ability, not "hope."

Powell Michael   January 17th, 2008 12:10 am ET

Right on Tamika! Hillary represents more of the same. I don't understand why poor, middle class and ethnic minorities keep voting against their own interests. It's kind of like they fall in line and drink the cool-aid as they are told.

democracy?   January 17th, 2008 12:08 am ET

I am a foreigner and I have been observing the election. I have to say I am much surprised by the kind of irrationality exhibited by many voters–allowing hatred (toward Clinton primariy) to guide their decision. Is this intelligent democracy?

Robert   January 17th, 2008 12:07 am ET

Hillary need to stop hanging on every little word Obama says, its casting her in a very bad way, just read the majority of these blogs on the net she is turning people off big time.

Also lets face it only reason why people wants Hillary to win because hopfully it would give Bill Clinton a 3rd term as president.. Do you think Hillary would have been a top tier candidate if wasn't for Bill Clinton?

veronica   January 17th, 2008 12:05 am ET

The majority of these comments are laughable, and show a real lack of knowledge of politics in this country.
Obama will not be the nominee, nor the next president.
I suggest he clean up his desk, get a few ideas to back up the lofty rhetoric, and come back in 2016.

kuhrdan1   January 17th, 2008 12:04 am ET

Thank God for all this nonsense masked as reasoned commentaries. No wonder Americans can not compete intellectually with other nations, because reasoned arguments are nothing but hurling insults prompted by ignorance of the facts or of a honest assesment of the sequence of events.

cadem22   January 17th, 2008 12:03 am ET

proud florida democrat,

i think you copied and pasted that same post on every post that deals with obama and hillary and each time i read it over it continues to grow more and more meaningless and ignorant. If you are such a "proud florida democrat" get over bashing your candidates, build up your party, place your vote for hillary and move on....i think why so many people have been drawn to edwards and obama msg for a new type of politics is because peoples patience towards attitudes like yours have grwon very thin. remember barack and edwards are still dems so stop trying to just tear down whoever you dont support...it gets old

concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona   January 16th, 2008 11:59 pm ET

Yeah you crazy people vote for Obama since today he compared himself to Reagan and belittled President Clinton in same sentence with President Nixon. He needs to become a Republican if he wants their votes so bad. At least Hillary is a true Democrat. I and my family will not ever vote for him. Today was icing on the cake. I remember days of Reagan. High deficits, high unemployment, housing prices down. Recession! Sound familiar. Is this what Obama wants to bring to democratic party. If so I will become independent.

charlotte   January 16th, 2008 11:57 pm ET

We know Barry Obama can talk the talk, can he walk the walk?

Dwayne, Pa   January 16th, 2008 11:56 pm ET

I would love to see all the things Hillary Clinton has accomplished in her 35 YEARS.
She is constantly bringing up her 35 YEARS, and all she ever mentions is health care and civil rights.
I have not seen much of a change in health care (other than prices UP, service DOWN).
I have not seen huge changes in civil rights. Things are about the same as they have been, some areas effected more than others.
My point is, I have NOT seen a whole lot of good come out of the 35 YEARS we have paid for!
In 35 YEARS, we ALL should have seen A LOT of improvements in many areas.
35 YEARS is a very long time!
But at least SHE KEEPS HER DESK NEAT!

Michelle   January 16th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Obama just got Clinton to tout her position as an old Washington bureaucrat–something that I think most of us no longer want.

Smart and subtle.

And that whole job interview question about the candidates' greatest faults cracked me up. Clinton and Edwards were as lame as I was in my first job interview.

Obama has a sense of humor that I appreciate.

I just can't listen objectively to anything Clinton says, try as I may. I don't want to dislike her, but she is simply too contrived and affected.

John   January 16th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

Don't let the tears, the continual playing of the press like a broken violin, the cleverly worded statements that are aimed at taking the the wind out of the sails of a person who is not only inspirational , but courageous as well. Lets also not forget the barrage of denials by Hillary that such statements were ever made. I have to admit she is a master at playing the gender and the race card to her full potential. She goes to Nevada, tells a man that no woman is illegal, dismisses Barack Obamas' inspirational speech in which he thanked John Kennedy, and Dr. King for their service, and vision during a dark period in our history. All this made me begin to wonder. Who is Hillary Clinton? What has she accomplished in politics that has brought about either change, or has benefited mankind? She did come up with a good health care plan in the early 90's which was squashed by the drug and pharmaceutacal companies. Those very same companies now donate more money to her than any other person in politics. She voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq, but still won't admit that it was a mistake, has repeatedly stated that she would not repeat history, but then votes to authorize the use of force in Iran. That is not only troubling, it could also prove to be dangerous. .She claims time and again that she has been fighting for civil rights far longer than Obama, but nothing could be further from the truth because she grew up in a family that supported Barry Goldwater, and lets be honest, Hillary will do anything to win period!! If that means to distort, twist, and contort the truth, then so be it . Just look at what a strangle-hold she hason the Obama campaign,for instance, and her ability to manipulate the press, while at the same time, pretend to be an innocent bystander after launching a carefully planned attack.. Barack admits drug use while a teenager, and instead of being praised for his honesty, but instead is s insulted by the head of BET, and Hillary stood by and said nada. If Obama mentions Dr. King, well how dare he. If he talks about his mom having to work three jobs, then Obama is playing the gender card. She is nothing more than a Black-Widow, so be weary of the forced smile, fake tears, because underneath that drakonian wardrobe lies a Black-Widow capable of devouring her prey, but not qualified of holding the highest office. She is in fact Bush with a skirt, or what I like to refer to as Bush-Lite. Her latest attack on Obama for not being qualified because he admits he isn't the most organized guy should make it clear to all undecided voters just how deperate she has become to attain votes. If you want to get down to who is truly incapable of being President then; Hillary please listen carefully:Do you think the American people want to elect a woman to the highest office, trust her to make competent and potentially life threatening decisions while her husband is in the next room having his way with the new intern in the Lincoln bedroom? I don't think so. Besides having the ability to suck all the air out of a room while a tremendous feat, does not in itself qualify you to be President. Finally, Hillary quit lying to the American people by claiming to have 35 years experience in politics,because its starting to piss me off , and I am tired of my mom telling me that "She only hopes she looks half that that good when she is 90".

Les   January 16th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

Our country is in BIG trouble right now, we are in recession, the biggest rate of inflation in 17 years, we are heavily in debt, our UNEMPLOYMENT rate is 5%; yet Bush tells you our economy is good. We NEED a President who is HANDS ON from day one, we have no time for ON THE JOB TRAINING.

The next group of people will be affected with housing crisis are the millionaires. About a million Americans are losing their homes.

I am MORE worried about our economy more than anything else. If our economy is not improving how are we going to support our troops assigned in Iraq and Afghanistan?

NOBODY in the Bush administration or people in Congress admit to the fact WE ARE NOW IN RECESSION. To admit we are, would drive the fear in the hearts of EVERY American.

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!

Maxii, California   January 16th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

Why are the Clintons so desperate for power? What's that they need to do that they couldn't do in the 1990s? I'm truly sick of Hilary for all the negativity! Why can't she just present her case why she'd be voted to be the nominee and and her vision for America let the voters decide? America is looking for leadership and all that we get from her is one attack after another day after day!

Walt, Belton, TX   January 16th, 2008 11:32 pm ET

Truethis,
We're in a recession because people were making a whole lot of money by making marginal loans to folks that couldn't qualify normally. When the going got tough the market price rose and low and behold, people realized they had been had by the loan barons. We're in the hold now because you can't keep borrowing from pedro to pay pablo. I say tough doodoo. You deserve the crop or crap you sow. The war you espouse played little on the outcome of bad fiscal policy by the lending marketeers...

CW   January 16th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Have any of us ever seen the President of the United States of America step off of Air Force One or Marine One with even a briefcase in hand? NO, we haven't. That’s because the President has aides and assistants who are responsible for organization and office management. I would argue that is because the President need not be bombarded with a host of documents and papers in his/her day to day routine. The things that s/he might need in terms of making a decision are collected and accessible as needed. Sure the President needs to understand the nature of managing the convoluted bureaucracy of the United States, sorting through tremendous amounts of information, but the argument that a President would be unsuccessful because s/he often keeps a cluttered desk is absurd! If you’ve ever seen the President on TV in the Oval Office at the White House, does the desk ever look cluttered? Again, no is the likely response. Do you think it’s the President who straightens his/her desk before going live for a broadcast? Yet again, NO! I think that the argument being waged to attack Mr. Obama for inexperience is somewhat plausible, but the reality is that he has demonstrated ability to organize, motivate, and execute; all which are critical to the job of President. Many feel that his lack of prolonged experience dragging on the coat tails of a former President makes him the lesser of the three current candidates, but he demonstrates the commitment to the American people to provide much needed change. He does not have record of faltering to the pressures of Washington Lobbyists, but a record breaking down barriers and uniting polar opposites on divisive issues.

Democrat from NYC   January 16th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

OK, about the confession from Obama that he is not good as an "operating officer", loses things, and asks his staff to hand him papers 2 seconds before he has to sign them... Sorry, but there was a more "presidential" way of saying this – how about my biggest fault is that I am so involved in trying to inspire and unite the people that often I get behind in my paperwork and have to work late to catch up. He didn't come off as presidential with that answer but lost points with me. .

Drew   January 16th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

Did anyone see Hillary lying through her teeth again today? I seriously don't think she thinks before she speaks and she ends up contradicting herself and looking less presidential every day.

It needs to be pointed out that she said "Government-by-adviser simply doesn't work." Funny that she thinks this since it is at odds with her actions when she has stated that she did not read numerous bills in the Senate because she was "fully advised" by her advisors what was in the bill. That to me sounds like governing by adviser.

Dominic   January 16th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

I cannot believe all the negativity toward Hillary. She's right. It's like Duh!.. of course you have to be well organized and have hands on the major controls if you want to be an effective leader. I think it is naive of Obama to openly admit that he has trouble managing that he loses papers and cannot keep track of things.

Hello! we are not electing an actor to star in a new American reality TV show. We are electing a president to manage the nation. Both Obama and Clinton have the right ideas but Clinton knows how to get things done. Hillary is brilliant and if nominated will best bloody the noses and blacken the eyes of any Republican candidate. She will make the republicans pay for the Bush debacle. She has been vetted, attacked for years by the Republicans they can't harm her, they've tried everything. Obama is much more vulnerable.

Americans need to wake up and question their irrational negativity toward the first woman that has ever run for president in this country. It is beginning to seem like we have made a lot more progress in the area of racial equality than we have in gender equality when it comes to equal opportunity. I sense a great deal of misogyny in much of the ridiculous suspicion and abuse that is thrown at Hillary's every move. She's an extraordinary person. America Needs Hillary.

Bryan, Illinois   January 16th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Hillary is giving us the politics of derision. With every swipe at Obama, she only appears to be even less the candidate than him. With Clinton in the office, we will have only 4-8 more years of backbiting and hateful politics in Washington. We don't need politics as much as we need results.

Lee - Houston, Tx.   January 16th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Hillary's a joke. When you look at her, do you think 'there's aperson who's a force for unity?'

Jose Card - Independent   January 16th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

RockyDude,

"She thinks she is bigger than her party and its members. Beware of this one…or she'll bring your house down around your ears…and that is if she actually wins."

Bill calls her a world class genius so she could very well believe it herself.
He can call her whatever in private, but to call her a genius in public is not productive.

Thanks for your very insightful comment on Hillary as an outsider!

mike   January 16th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

his mangerail skills are not limited, after all he graduated Harvard law suma cum laude...

NYC Democrat   January 16th, 2008 11:01 pm ET

I think Senator Clinton would be a good bureaucratic manager. I think Mitt Romney would be a great COO or CEO. But the best managers will tell you that theres a difference between a 'manager' and a leader. A leader must unite and inspire. A leader must set an example. a leader must be principled, steady in their devotions, firm in their convictions. Barack Obama is both a naturally gifted manager, and a born leader.

I mean no disrespect to Senator Clinton, but she is not a true leader. The behavior of her campaign in recent weeks has been, I believe, a picture of dishonesty and self-interest. If she will run the country the way she has run the campaign, we should expect four years of division and finger pointing. If we nominate her, I'm not sure I can bring myself to vote for that.

ZH   January 16th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

Hillary is so funny...You are not qualified for a president. You did not protest for all of what Bill did in the oval office with the interns. You are a great shame to US women. I am a woman, but, I am not going to vote you. You are soooo negetive!!!!

mickey   January 16th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

I saw a clip tonight of Bill Clinton indignantly responding to someone about the Las Vegas lawsuit saying "I had nothing to do with that lawsuit". It was exactly the same tone and aggressive denial as "I did not have sex with that woman" !!

jennifer-UPSTATE NY   January 16th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

everybody needs to remember what a great job the Clinton's did running the country their eight yrs in the white house, and what a crappy job the Bush's have done in the past eight years, she needs to get elected to get us out of this economic slump Bush has put us in

From The North   January 16th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

WELL HERE'S A FRESH IDEA – . According to the comments on this blog the majority feel that neither Clinton or Obama has the experience necessary to govern a Nation. So – why not support another Candidate? It's not like there aren't others out there! Why is everyone on these blogs dividing all their eggs between only two baskets? My guess would be because the media has decided they are the only two baskets for sale.

A gentle reminder. The last leader was elected twice because? Certainly not intelligence, definitely not experience, visually not charisma, hindsight not capability, forethought not speaking points, the panel is still out on that one and the violence is still raging.

Shop around Americans. Don't buy the first thing you see in the window. As chances are the items getting the rave reviews are likely the ones to have the most defects or they are merchandise that has been overstocked and must be sold off before expiry. Research product quality and company service policies.
And remember once you buy it there are no returns.

Heaven help us if all America has going for it is Inspiration Point and Hi My Name is Bill, meet my wife Hill. You can get inspiration and meet Bills and Hills at any local drop in center or church for free, regardless of what politcal party you belong to. And they won't ask you for a donation.

John Adkisson, Sacramento, California   January 16th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

Don't we all remember those historic moments of our greatest presidents, keeping papers tidily organized and closely micro-managing the bureaucracy? Uhhhmmm? No one comes to mind, but I'm sure there were some.

And no one remembers presidents who inspired through words or led the American public to meet challenges through leadeership skills. Well, okay, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, John Kennedy...

Hey...she must be fill of melarkey!

Alice, VA   January 16th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

"She's already proven she has the leadership skills, outlook, and direction of which our nation should be. "

++++++++++

Excuse me, but Hillary hasn't proven anything in these regards. What experience? She claims 35 years of experience, but who exactly was she accountable to? With the exception of a little over one term in the Senate, what has she done to make such a claim? I wonder what the WH Travel Office thinks of her leadership skills? As for her direction for the country....my God it's towards Socialism....we can't even afford to finance the present Social Security system.

Hillary is a bag of hot air...she's divisive, polarizing and as such not what this country needs.

Jen Cedar Falls, IA   January 16th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Unfortunately for Hillary Clinton, our country has known her for enough years to know the "REAL HILLARY", that's why people of all faiths, race, gender, political party and even other countries are letting their feelings about her be known.

Hillary has no integrity, she's shown her true colors for her "35 years of experience" and those of us that aren't COLORBLIND are going to make sure she does NOT win the White House back for her and her philandering husband.

Support Obama or Romney!

Geri   January 16th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

Like I have said before CNN has always been my news channel by choice but they are slinging so much crap now at Clinton and kissing Obama's behind. Are you afraid of a law suit or being told you're racist?? I think its disgraceful that Crowley is covering Clinton in such a negative way. She needs to be replaced by someone that can be fair. You can definitely tell she favors Obama. Her attitude sucks. Guess I'll have to start watching the local news more often.

Mike, Austin Texas   January 16th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

How is it that Hillary can "get the ball in the hoop"? I am so sick of people trying to tout this message of experience in someone whose only experience is what's been going on in the White House forever. Yeah if you're a person who has the "Thats the way its always been done" mentality then Hillary is your candidate. When Hillary was asked questions about her weakenesses in the last debate what was her answer? It was that same standardized pre-written answer that she thinks people want to hear. I think it is an insult to our intelligence personally. We all know that candidates are humans and with flaws. Obama came straight out and in so many words said Hey I'm not the best at organizing paperwork. What I am good at is mobilizing a nation toward a common goal and utilizing the strength of diversity to solve problems. How many times are we going to accept her old "We need someone to go in and be President from day one." with cheers, rather than asking ourselves the question do we really want someone who can step in and be the President and just pick up the reigns someone else left and steer the country in the same direction from day one? I know I don't. I want someone to shout "Woah!" to slow this thing down, steer away from the old ways of doing things, and to start re-thinking the way this country is governed.

Micahel Guinn, Ventura, CA   January 16th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

I could say "typical Beltway politician". I could say "and you said you want to talk ISSUES". I could say "she's back". I WILL say: OBAMA 08!

Jim in Orlando, FL   January 16th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Ronald Reagan was not a micro-manage guy, and no great leader is. If Hillary wants to stoke the boilers, then so be it. Vote her into the boiler room. In the meantime, can we elect someone who knows how to be captain of the ship ? Obama has executive skills that dwarf Hillary, and for that matter, so does every other major candidate in both parties.

Angela   January 16th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

Great! Obama admits he can't keep his own desk organized???. that he will lose papers if someone gives it to him too soon???
He just gave away the keys to his kingdom!!!
The republicans will bury him with confusion/detail if he gets the nomination. and wins the White House. Obama will be a sitting duck for their diabolical tactics.
He simply fails to realize what a complicated, demanding job the Presidency is.
I feel sorry for him if he gets in. He will be overwhelmed and collapse at the immensity of the job.. He will chase his tail and get exhuasted. He will get disallutioned when the Republicans don't play nice , aren't moved by his flowery, windy oratory and, sorry to say, HE will be the one crying.
Please leave the job to a battle-hardened political warrior like Hillary.
She has the skill, intelligence and stamina to take on the Republican opposition and clean up the mess.

GO HILLARY!!!!

Xtina Chicago, IL   January 16th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Hillary is so full of it, the more I hear from her, the less I'll vote for her. If Hillary is elected, every voicemail, phone line to the government will be answered by Hillary.

Wake Up   January 16th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Oh, I forgot one thing:
Fact 10: If Hillary is elected, she will be the 1st Female President of the USA.

I'm a man and I really want this monopoly of old-white-men running the country to end. Even if Hillary's presidency does nothing more than open the door for candidates of any gender, religion, or race to be president, then it will be well worth it.

Mati   January 16th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

Don't be stupid, this was a metaphor! Don;t tell me you really imagined that she was talking about filing documents. Many of you like to repeat that 'unite us' stuff. People become united without any effort if life is good, and they will fight one against the other if they have to survive. So, don't play stupid here.. fixing America starts with filling the pockets of middle class and working people, not with Obama's communist 'solidarity'. Read some history.

Hillary'08!

Sam   January 16th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Extremely rational Democrats will vote for Clinton, because – agree or disagree – you can't deny her substance and you can't deny Obama's political naivete as a wide open match point for Republicans.

Extremely emotional Democrats will vote for Obama, because it just feels good.

Most people are a little of both. The media (CNN, CMNBC, everyone) has been very successful at sniffing out and then amplifying even the slightest negative to activate emotion. So these blogs are obviously dominated by emotional people.

Will be interesting to see whether the emotional or the rational make it to the voting booths.

Wake Up   January 16th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

Let's talk Facts:

Fact 1: The media is spinning against Hillary at every turn.

Fact 2: Obama is not as experienced as Hillary

Fact 3: There is a difference between having a "vision" (obama) and having the ability to execute that vision.

Fact 4: Bush has the intelligence of a really smart chimpanzee.

Fact 5: The Clintons have been squarely on the side of blacks and minorities for years. Check your facts if you think otherwise.

Fact 6: The Clintons left the country in good shape – positive standing in the world and budget surplus.

Fact 7: The best Washington scandal is a sex scandal!!!

Fact 8: I'll vote for any Democrat over any Republican until the balance of power in this gov't is re-established.

Fact 9: I'm a registered Republican

KMM Grand Rapids MI   January 16th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

The longer this goes, the more Hillary shows herself to us to be a manipulating, power hungry, calculating, vicious when desparate, claw her way to the top at any expense, human being ....who will do ANYTHING to win. And, the longer this goes, Obama's honor and class will become more and more apparent. We are so hungry for someone we all not just respect, but love to lead us again. That's the truth at the end of the day. Do we really want four, maybe eight more years of truly disliking the leader of our country? Are we all not demoralized from it?

Running out of Hope, Newport News, Va.   January 16th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Thank you RockyDude for your ensight. That would be the question and the physical response will undoubtedly reveal the truth (Body language and the eyes). Would these people die for us? I'm certain of this one fact, and that is that Barack Obama stares death in the face everyday he steps out of the safety of his quarters. Just like Kennedy and King. It has to do with who he is. His passion, his truth, his vision. The possibility of his sudden demise on the campaign trail is very real. I mean after all, this is the United States of America. Obama is the one... He really is.

Two States   January 16th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

According the latest Carnival International Poll, Inc. LOL

Obama will win two states, IA and SC

David, Dallas Tx   January 16th, 2008 9:51 pm ET

Gee, I'm so glad she decided to run a no-attack campaign.

/sarcasm

I can't believe Hillary is arguing that her comfort level with bureaucracy is a selling point. I thought she called herself an agent of change? Bureaucracies stifle change, they don't foster it.

Joe, SoCal   January 16th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

RockyDude, this was one of the most well-written, logical, and even keeled assesments I've read about Hillary Clinton in a long time. Her popularity still perplexes me– I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone would want to vote for such a power hungry and underhanded woman.

I can understand the appeal of having the first woman president, however, and that plus the fond memories many have of the Clintons is basically what drives her.

I will be voting for Obama, though.

DoninVa   January 16th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Lets just be real honest here. Obama is very inexperienced and no amount of good wishes or goodwill will make him a strong President. At the same time, Hillary Clinton is known as something of a bully as opposed to the "Strong woman " perception that many cast her as being. Her few experiences that we the public recognize her for..healthcare..etc..were miserable flops. And I for one prefer that presidential spouses do as most Americans prefer ,which is to say they do good will tours ,state dinners,and other supporting functions in that form. We need a candidate in the fashion of Truman,Kennedy,and Reagan.Those were leaders that thru vision and strength of purpose made us a whole nation as opposed to the partisan nation the world percieves of us.

Richard F   January 16th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Since when is CONTRAST an attack? Isn't campaigning about presenting your ideas and contrasting yourself with others? Haven't we heard people saying for months that the 2 Democratic front runners are VERY similar? Here we have Hillary showing what just may be the most important difference between herself and Obama and it's labeled an attack? I'm glad to see their managerial styles so well highlighted by the two of them now so that we can get a real idea of what type of president they will be. This is what campaigns are about – lay it out and let the voters decide. Get real Crowley – Read the actual words the candidates say and quit looking for a flashy headline. You're supposed to work for CNN – Not FOX!

sick of ignorant remarks   January 16th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

to proud florida democrat, chaunda, kj matthews and all other posters who are so ignoraant of obama here are SOME OBamaa Facts you need to know.
1. he has held elected office longer than hrc. 2. a First Lady title in the Governor's House or White House is not political experience, as no one is holding you accountable for leading or helping the country.
3. Obama has made many sacrifices-financial mainly. For example while HRC didn't have to worry about paying back college loans, Obama was working in a low paying job as an community organizer, to led voter registration efforts in Chicago that led to the largest surge of in Chicago's history, which by the way led to Bill Clinton's win in Illinois presidential race.
4. Obama is often willing to give up credit for his work in order to get bi-partisan support and effort. If you think HRC could do this, you're NUTS.
5.HRC is too divisive to move this country forward and unfortunately we still need a few more democrats in Congress, to move against the republicans. This is why BUSH has been able to stop the democrats from passing badly needed legislation. Since we have a snowball chance in hell of getting the right numbers in congress, we at least need a president that can unite all parties. give us a break, check your facts before you post, or at least give something that makes sense to think about..like poster-tamika johnson..Go OBAMA 08

Abdi Jamal   January 16th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

The race issue between Hillary and Obama is a serious threat to the democatuc party in the final election in Novermber. If this continues, then the party is likely to loose in the election. People are tied of republican and they need to get rid of them. The media needs to stop exergurating the issue at the compaign site. Why? Because people are getting confused for whom they should vote for. Every American knows that Bill clinton was a good president in his term in office. But the question is, Her husban's remarks in the past, w'll it help Hillary to rule this country? The ans is NO! but she can influence some voters on that. About experience Hillary claims all the time, let me break this one into peices, well, W.Bush was elected and he had expeirence for the job right, so what did he bring to this country other than War? Nothing. where is the expeirence he had? This concludes that having an expeirence does not mean that you w'll do a good job or better. It is time for Americans to stand up and select the best candidate whose words are consistent all the time from one state to another.Americans are ready for change. I don't uderstand why people are not even giving chance for Jorn Edward. He is a good candidate, have good message same as hillary and Obama to the people. For get about Hillary and Obama and vote for Edward instead of loosing to the Republicans. I don't like Republcans.

Cheryl Moss   January 16th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, you need to stop the bashing on Senator Obama. You act as though you are GOD"s gift to this Earth. Every word he utters out of his mouth, you turn it around to benefit yourself. You proclaim you have 35 years of political experience, you were born in 1947 so would I be correct to say that you have been in the political field since you were 25 years old? "I think not". Tell the truth Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One more thing. Mr. Clinton stated that one of your first task if you become president is to send him and Sr. Bush around the world to tell other political heads that the U.S. are open for talk and to fix the mess that Sr. Bush's son has made "How pathetic" of you. When Senator Obama suggested that he would talk to other leaders around the world, YOU CRITICIZED MR. OBAMA for even suggestion that. Senator Clinton you are so plastic.

What you need   January 16th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

You don't need a dreamer of unity (which will never happen unless there is another disaster). You need someone with a plan. After following the debates Hillary is the only one who has thaught about solutions, economic etc.

Dan   January 16th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I am really amazed at how many people really don't research before making comments and rely on heresay.

Hillary knows the political system and can make changes that are necessary because of the experience being in both the White House as the first lady and being in the senate. Yes, the healthcare plan she had didn't work at it's best; however, we all learn from our mistakes, please name one person out there (especially in Washington) who hasn't.

I don't think the country can take a risk by putting someone in who has no clear and detailed plans, Obama speaks to generalities.

Clinton is well rounded, understands how to make change (look at what she has done in NY) and can detail her plans on any topic. Not true with the other two.

Obama talks about how de voted against the war....NEWSFLASH: HE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT AT ALL! Don't criticize people for making a vote when you weren't even there to do so. There is a lot we don't know about Obama but what he says because he sure does miss a lot going on in the Senate, where he should be getting experience to come back.

As a person who has continously followed politics, I don't think we can take a risk on a person who has no detailed plans to change the country or someone who lacks experience. We are in desperate need of help and change and there is only ONE clear candidate who can provide that, Hillary Clinton!

Please research Hillary before making decisions on "likeability"...I want someone who can be firm and strong, not so much likeable. I have friends I can have a beer with, but not many of them could lead a country, just like I feel about Obama.

Go Clinton!

Tony   January 16th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I would rather go with an "unknown" than Clinton. Besides Obama is not an unknown.

K.Chicago   January 16th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

One more I would like to suggest to the aoutor of the article.
Please don't make this a fight between the two candidates.
Mr Obama's statement is to hard to accept and not to react.
Someone, who is not organized, deteiled and hard working, not placing in to other's hands, very important tasks as well as discrediting himself about important skills in the position as a manager or department head, I feel strong to not let that person to be OUR PRESIDENT !!!!!!!!
Please !!!!! NO !!!! Mr Obama !!!!!!
VOTE FOR Mrs HILLARY CLINTON !!!!!!!!!!!!

Margaux   January 16th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

And if you still think that Obama is the man than you must still believe in Santa Clause!

Elizabeth   January 16th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Really, do you think American people are so stupid?

You state that you didn't vote for the invasion of Iraq; cannot even admit you even read the national security memos but was "briefed" on it. Is that what MANAGEMENT is to you? You didn't even take responsibility for allowing Bob Johnson to act so arrogant at your campaign event. You didn't respect the Dem Party by taking your name off the MI ballot; the list goes on.....

Cares about the Middle Class? When we lived in your state, Hillary, in upstate NY the economy sucked and there were no good jobs for anyone. The military base my husband was assigned to couldn't even house many of the soldiers' families on base and the local real estate was using military families desperate need for housing to make a huge profit and I saw NO evidence that anyone was stepping in to help out while families stayed separated because they had no where to live. THEY WERE LIVING IN HOTELS. I was lucky to get a decent apartment off base before my husband came back from Iraq.

"What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

May the best candidate win. Goodnight!

Marie   January 16th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

We need a truthful president who will unite the nation and not a liar and polarizing candidate with all that baggage. (Carpetbagger BillyBoy that is!!!)

I'm for a new start and a candidate with character. Think that pretty much narrows it down to Obama or Edwawrds wouldn't you?

Mike   January 16th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

Obama is hanging his hat on his ability to bring people together to solve the problems. Unfortunitely, giving good speeches is not the only quality that we need in this particular job at this time in history. We need a candidate who can dot the i's and cross the t's in his/her plan of attack, as well as drum up support across the asle. That rules out Hillary as well.

steve wilmington   January 16th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Mrs. Clinton, as a wife of a former-president, I hope you took copious notes. You have alot of experience at taking notes and organizing....this is the only "experience" you have.

Mart from Chicago   January 16th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

How is it that Hillary is seen as the attacker nowadays?? For the past month or so, Obama tag team with Edwards, attacking Hillary whenever they get the chance (in debate, in their speeches, comments made by their campaigns), and yet no news or tickers that says, "Obama's and Edward's latest attack on Hilarry"...

To John who commented About Iraq, stop putting it against her that she voted for it. You know its a mistake once the mistakes has been pointed out. Before the Iraq war started, most Americans wanted to go to war and blame somebody on 9/11... and Iraq was the target... But we know now it was a mistake. That is what make the difference between Dems and Reps... They know its a mistake but they still want to continue the war indefitely... The Dems, including Hillary did say it was a mistake and they want to make it right... the fact that Obama disagreed on Iraq from day 1 does not make him a better person... or a better future president... People make mistake.. I don't use Obama's drug use in the past against him, why should u put it against Clinton for voting in favor of the war...

And I agree... this was not an attack, it is just a matter of opinion... While every comment out of Obama & Edwards mouth towards Hillary is only seen as a not-so-harmful comments, it is very interesting how CNN spotlight every single comment Hillary made towards Obama, a so called attack...

So why don't I report it to the world, BREAKING NEWS: CNN and its affiliates endorses Barack Obama, and it encourages for all of their employees and all their readers to vote for Obama... its funny how some people still thinks CNN is pro-Hillary... The thousand times replay of the crying scene, this ticker, the analysis of the black voters in MI, the polls in New Hampshire, etc etc, is to make Hillary look bad.. I for one won't change my stand. and if you guys haven't already know, VOTE FOR HILLARY 2008!! :)

john williams san diego, ca.   January 16th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

She is pure evil and has the cackle to prove it...

K.Chicago   January 16th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

I can't picture Mr Obama in the very responsible position, especialy after the TV debate and his statement on his weakness.
He has a poor organizational skills, falowed by lasy type of character and not beeing responsible as well as not doing the best of ability.
He descredited himself as good manager, organized and beeing ready to lead the office or department. Mr Obama has to learn a lot to be responsible, organized and ready to lead the department in first, not the Country !!!!!!!!!!!!
Vote for Mrs Hillary Clinton !!!!!!!
We need strong, well organized and experienced candidate for the Presidency! !!!!!

Anon 1   January 16th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

Everytime I hear Obama speak off the cuff especially in debates, I become increasingly embarass at his inability to expound, clearly on issues. I saw a clip of him addressing a Nevada gathering, it was painful to watch him stumbling his way through. Katie Couric asked him a simple question today about giving advice, and he could not even answer it. So much for a Harvard Edcuation. However, I believe he can improve hi extempraneous talk with some preparation. Once he is using a teleprompter, he speeches are electrifying.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton is very prepared and she likes to inject facts in her responses. I think this is great when you are talking to certain groups of people. But she should try and inject more anecdotes are personal experiences when she is stumping. Also she should try and shape her vision as a transitional president in this time of great conflict in the world. Limit the presence of Bill Clinton and allow Chelsea to be seen more. Bill should talk about current events and the need for the democratic party to reshape the nation. Let other supporters do the attacking.

FInally, John Edwards comes off as too angry and he agrees with everything Barack Obama says, so I doubt if he will ever win a Primary/caucas.

Unlike the Republicans who have a mix of liberals and conservatives campaigning, the Democrats have three great candidates that the party is happy with.

The only losers in all this Election 2008 is the Broadcast Media. It is just frustrating to see journalists blatant pandering and bias in their coverage of candidates. Much of this controversy over Clintons' innocuous comments were fueled by commentators in the media.

May the best one carry the party in November and be victorious.

Jack, Greenville, SC   January 16th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

please post at least one of my comments before this one. thanks

AJ, IL   January 16th, 2008 9:06 pm ET

I disagree Chaunda. There is a reason the President of the US is called the Leader of the Free World, not the "Manager" or "COO" of the Free World. The president of the US should be a leader. Let me remind you that leadership involves power by influence, and management (what Hillary Clinton is proposing) involves power by position.

Obama is saying he has the stuff to be a leader, to be President. If you wanted to related the US presidency to the business world then being President would be equal to being CEO. Being a COO is like being a VP.

Hillary was making her case that a President should micro-manage the federal bureaucracy, and she is the master of that. I cringed when she said that. Hillary would make a good presidential cabinet member, like Attorney General or Secretry of Labor, but not President or even VP.

Ann   January 16th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

That there are people out there that still believe in Hillary Clinton is remarkable indeed.

Truethis   January 16th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

Some of you bloggers you better wake up because we are in a recession because went into Iraq and paid trillion of dollars based on a lie that hillary agreed upon. What will Hillary bring to the White House..........DIVISION. Do you seriously think that the REPUBLICAN will work with Hillary. huh........ They want to run against Hillary.

Benny Lava   January 16th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

The nation cries out for a great leader like Obama, not bad managers like the Clintons.

Mary, Michigan   January 16th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

I support Barack Obama. I do not dislike Hillary Clinton. I'm an independent who will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

From what I have observed, it appears that Barack Obama may not have what it takes to fight back against the "attacks" or "comparisons." He's going to have to–whether he likes it or not. He better learn to do it now. If he happens to win the primary (which I'm beginning to doubt more and more), this will feel like a cake walk compared to what the Republicans will do to him.

He doesn't appear to like confrontation. I believe I recall him being asked what his New Year's resolution was. He said something like he wanted to be more assertive.

He claims to have been tested by being involved in Chicago politics. I hope I'm wrong.

ron strawbridge   January 16th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

She comes across a desperate, unscrupulous, power-hungry, insincere, undynamic (i.e. intransigent), fake (in concern for others- you guys), manipulative, ugly, and unremarkable. Maybe those are qualities necessary in a president, I hope not. Obama isn't perfect but in comparison to her and the republicans on offer he is your only hope. I'm just amazed how many people thinks the sun shines out of Hilary's arse when all the evidence is contrary to that.

Thanks Even folks without a dog in this fight are stunned by DEMs Love of Hillary...or is it Bill?

JohnS   January 16th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

For those on this list, here is a piece that I copied and pasted!!!
"Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.

Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.

Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service."

So Hillary so STOP these attacks and talk about how to bring all of us, democrats, republicans, independents etc. together to solve real problems for real people. I bet that she simply cannot do this overnight; hard for a "divider" to pull the best of resources together!!! God Bless America for voting for CHANGE in Obama.

charlotte   January 16th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

I'm sure Barrack Hussien Obamas' name will evoke something. what kind of allies remains to be seen, first he has to win. We sure know what the name Bush evokes around the world. My beloved country, the USA, is suffering a lot of anti-everything. We have lost so much respect, can anyone get it back. It will take a long time and a President who can get it done. Action speak louder then words. We don't need a silver tongue that talks and talks. Can Obama walk the walk.

Gil - California   January 16th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

This is why the Democrats will lose the White House this election. Folks like me who hate Hillary will never vote for her if she wins the primary. We'll either sit it out or vote Republican. Folks who hate Obama will never vot for him if he wins the primary. They will either sit it out or vote Republican.

In the end there will be a Republican in the White House and I'll be wondering why I wasted so much energy and emotion on a losing team.

ron strawbridge   January 16th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Chaunda:

Abe Lincoln was an unknown. The right person @ the right time. Obama!

carol   January 16th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Dan, NJ – your burgers need to be flipped and the fries are burning!

ron strawbridge   January 16th, 2008 8:50 pm ET

Seems that people are first shocked that Hillary is not the Dems automatic candidate.

They want Obama to wait his turn...because this is Hillary's turn.

I have read many times that Obama is too dangerous, he like George Bush...I have come to realize that those who say this have a misunderstanding of the quality, intelligence, charisma, and character of Obama.

Even Hillary has made the suggestion...she and here husband also say Obama would make a good president.

I think folks had the same misunderstanding of Abraham Lincoln... just 50 when he took office.

Abe did okay at changing the direction the country was headed...keeping us one nation under God.

Obama will do the same.

carol   January 16th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

I can't hardly wait until she takes control. I haven't slept since the "purchased" Supreme Court annointed Bush President in December 2000.

I'm ready for an intelligent, well-educated, work-horse standing on the fence daring anyone to hurt us.

President Hillary Rodham Clinton – music to my ears.

Cory, Pennsylvania   January 16th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

Hillary, seriously... just shut up & speak about your issues, experiences, and plans to make America better.... oh, wait. You, Hillary, do not have anything to say about them.

OBAMA '08

If Hillary gets the nomination, I will vote Republican.

OBAMA '08

CNN, shame on you   January 16th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

CNN shame on you. CNN=Anti Hillary Cable Network

s.positive   January 16th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

Sounds to me Most Americans haven't got a clue what a PRESIDENT'S role is. Shame guys and the world is watching the so called literate bunch disgracing themselves and I am not going to spend my time educating some illiterate bloggers on the differences, let the blind continue to argue blindly...

Karen, Jersey City   January 16th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Everytime this woman's mouth is moving is a sign a lie is about to come out.

Steve, Texas   January 16th, 2008 8:36 pm ET

"In her comments today, she argued that the Bush era through a "mismanaged war" and the failure to react quickly to Hurricane Katrina has proved that "government by advisor" doesnt work. The country needs, said Clinton, "a hands-on manager.""

So CNN now thinks criticism of Bush = criticism of Obama? Using this logic, does Obama = Bush?

shaun   January 16th, 2008 8:35 pm ET

To proud Florida democrat.....

I most certainly don't speak for Obama, but for myself ,so don't go judging him for what I'm about to say...Florida voters like N.H. voters have already proven that they don't have a clue on how to pick a president because if you don't remember, you voted for bush twice. Your state always holds the cards, but if it were up to me, I'd strip you of all your delegates. This is probably why you won't see me running for any public office, but face it, if your votes for oppression and stupidity were discounted, then bush and his evil empire would've never been elected. You people discust me. Kerry wasn't a great candidate, but look who he was running against. You people ate the swift boat smear hook line and sinker, and let the republican empire discredit the patriotism of war hero such as john kerry for a jerk that squirmed his way out of serving his country. I guess thats commander and chief qualifications.

florida cannot be trusted....

Celina B   January 16th, 2008 8:33 pm ET

Tom Davie,
Yes after 911 the whole country rallied behind GW, but because he had no vision, or the wisdom of what this country can be after such tragedy, he told Americans to go shopping while Cheney and the armchair generals seized the chance to go after Saddam and the oil. Others who can only be led, following what was popular fell for this and voted to authorize the war, maybe driven by the notion of looking tough.

Thats why we need a president who can think hard, clearly and make sound judgments in times of crisis. That president of Obama. Hilary overeacts, is impatient and not capable of deep clear selfless analysis of a crisis.

Evan Tribley Columbus, OH   January 16th, 2008 8:32 pm ET

Ha, Hillary, I challenge you to micromanage the American government.

GOOD LUCK!

Sledge   January 16th, 2008 8:30 pm ET

I don't thinking Clinton comments were attacking Obama. But I definately thinks that CNN was attacking Hillary. Its clear by the headline of this article. Hillary was merely drawing a contrast between her style of government and Obama's.

To me Hillary was right. Obama lacks management skills. but I don't think that CNN will post this comment.

Sledge

Aaron M.   January 16th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

Attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, attack!!!!!!

He is the only honest candidate who has the courage to be open about himself. I don't know when integrity became something to attack.

I wish that the Clintons could just talk about her positive attributes without bashing someone else.

She knows that a president doesn't manage every part of the country, she is just trying to use this as another opportunity to attack Obama.

Is she really going to balance the budget, run the military, control border security, personally deal with foreign leaders, create green energy initiatives, etc. etc. etc. all by herself??? I wasn't aware that she was an economist, a General, a border security agent, the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Energy. That IS impressive Maybe I should vote for her.

HA HA HA HA!!!! NOPE!

in response to florida   January 16th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

re: the comment by "proud florida democrat," (January 16, 2008 8:18 pm ET)

Obama and Edwards being out of Florida and Michigan has more to do with unresolved DNC issues than with the two candidates. I'm surprised that this isn't common knowledge in your state–it's troubling that it isn't.

Anyhow, I'm not sure if you'll buy this since you have a strong bias for Hillary, but I assure you that you should blame the democrat leaders in your own state for being neglected by Obama and Edwards, not the candidates themselves. From what I understand, the votes in your primary don't even count.

Steve, Texas   January 16th, 2008 8:28 pm ET

The CNN-for-Obama publicity machine rolls on.......

Tom Davie   January 16th, 2008 8:27 pm ET

I honestly belive Obama people know nothing about the real political manuevering in Washington.

Its like ' DO ANYTHING TO GET HIM INTO POWER' ........then see what happens

Its irresponsible .

He is going to walk into office and have no flying clue how to be president. He has no clue how to play the washington games necessary to BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER when they are out to get him in the first place.

Most of the Obama supporters are young, and the issues that are important arent really a REALITY for them.

They think in some utopian way that one man can wave a magic wand and make all the hurt go away. They have no idea how DIFFICULT it is, and has been for 200 years.

If Obama could show me where he PUSHED these hardend people in washington into doing what he said AGAINST their wishes , I will VOTE FOR HIM MYSELF.

They think a junior senator with no real national experience is the SAME thing as JFK or Ronald Reagan.

Obama is nothing like these people and certainly doesnt have the experience in politics the way these folks did. You need some actual experience on a national stage to be effective in dealing with these FREAKS in Washington.

The opposite of experience is NOT change. Its INEXPERIENCE.

Its just irresponsible.

Dan, NJ   January 16th, 2008 8:26 pm ET

I'm really torn here between two:

So we should replace Bush the decider for Hillary the decider

OR

"U.S. Department of Social Security. This is Hillary Clinton, how can I help you?"

Brennan, Seattle WA   January 16th, 2008 8:23 pm ET

Isn't "Government by advisor" what we thought Bill Clinton did so well? It was his ability to listen to his advisors that made him so effective. The last thing we need is another arrogant President who thinks they have all the answers.

Chaunda   January 16th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

I think there is a distinction between attacking and contrasting. I also think there is a difference between micro-managing and having a good understanding of the system. A good foreman on a jobsite typically knows how to build or repair even if he is not directly involved. No one is bashing Obama for honesty. He could not hide the fact he has no experience.
Look, he seems like a nice enough guy but so did Bush before he was elected. I am not saying Obama is like Bush in policy but he is an unknown. The fact is the only reason there is so much ammunition against Hillary is because of her long history in the public eye. Obama came out of nowhere and everyone was like yay, he is so well spoken and tells me just what I want to here. Let's get away from the cheerleadering and get someone out here who can get the ball in the hoop.

proud florida democrat   January 16th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

Obama claims to be the candidate of change. He also is a "champion" of voters rights

Why is he ignoring the great people of Michigan and Florida. We are much larger and more diverse than any other primary state. Obama has said these states are unimportant to him!?!?!

As a floridian i am outraged!!!! Our state was hijacked by Bush in 2000 (Hillary spoke out, never heard from Obama) Now he is actively participating in ignoring us out of a purely politcal reason, so much for politics of change.

He speaks of issues we care about but i challenge anybody to show me something hes taken a stand on (when unpopular to do so) or bring change in the past to the national spotlight

Then watch Hillary on CSPAN as she answers questions on any issue and clearly explains her vision for leading this country

Obama stands for nothing!!!!!! Change is just a word without action

RockyDude   January 16th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

I'm from the UK. Hilary is trouble. I've been following the primary/caucas elections with great interest. As an outsider looking in and consider myself as unbiased with regards to party and candidate choice I can say that Hilary's style of campaigning is nauseating. In a period of two weeks she's played the emotional card, used race and gender to manipulate what ever state she is trying to win at the time (e.g. ' the black and brown issue'), dissed MLK (there is no way around that one- bad form), offended the black community (and then trys to court their votes), tried many times to blame Obama for her own mistakes and cock-ups, her supporters are trying to disenfranchise members the Culinary Union (that backed Obama) of votes etc., the list goes on and on.

She comes across a desperate, unscrupulous, power-hungry, insincere, undynamic (i.e. intransigent), fake (in concern for others- you guys), manipulative, ugly, and unremarkable. Maybe those are qualities necessary in a president, I hope not. Obama isn't perfect but in comparison to her and the republicans on offer he is your only hope. I'm just amazed how many people thinks the sun shines out of Hilary's arse when all the evidence is contrary to that.

After reading a lot of blogs and online news articles (from apparently reputable sources) it seems that most people tend to cut and paste their ideas straight from extremely biased news reports. I've found actual video footage of the various incidents and judged them for myself instead of getting someone to reinterpret it for me. Hilary Clinton is not a racist, well no more than most other people are anyway, but she did say something stupid when comparing a president to MLK concerning civil rights; he who ultimately gave his life for what he believed in (what contemporary politician do you know who would do that). Instead of clearing this verbal typo up quickly she let it drift causing damage to herself and dangerous fractures to the Democrat party and then has the audacity to blaming someone else (Obama) for what she said (totally unbelievable- but true).

I seriously think that if she believes she won't win the nomination that she make sure no one else in her party will and scutter the ship so none may sail in her. Therefore cause so much damage to the party in her relentless ambition that there won't be enough democrats to vote come November. She thinks she is bigger than her party and it's members. Beware of this one...or she'll bring your house down around your ears...and that is if she actually wins.

Ask your candidate this: "Would you die for us?". Don't listen to the answer look at the eyes and the body language.

Good luck America, I wish you all the best for what you vote for and deserve what you get.

Sabrina   January 16th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

I have this vision of Obama sitting in the oval office, feet up on the desk uttering hope and change, while everyone is lined up to give him papers every two seconds so he does not lose them! Hillary was the Rock Star last nite and presidential, she showed how much experience she has. Madame President, sounds wonderful!!!You have my vote Obama is just not ready.

irma   January 16th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

Bush let's other people handle his paperwork as well. We see how well that's worked out. One of the reasons he didn't pay attention to the problems in the Middle East and possible terrorist attacks on our country that President Clinton left for him. That was BEFORE 9/11. Hmmm, seems like pretty important paper shuffling he should have paid closer attention too.

irma   January 16th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

For the record, the news media, namely CNN and MSNBC aired the clip of Hillary's moment all day long as they ridiculed her and President Clinton all day long. I know, I watched in disbelief all day long on a vacation day. The experienced voters didn't let them get away with it. That's what happened. So those of you who claim a Clinton slant, wake up! Where have you been?

plain jane   January 16th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

So, if Hillary makes a statement, it is an attack. Poor Obama!! There will be a LOT more statements coming his way from the public as well. The media is giving him a pass and twist every thing in his favor. He is not the golden child. For him to suggest that orginazation is for the chief of staff........is that an attack or a statement. Is that OBAMA... THE UNITER ...saying that a women's place is behind the scenes. Double standards don't get it OBAMA!!!!!

NOT BARACK IN 08!!!!!!!

irma   January 16th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

The headlines, the story all part of the "Vote for Obama" spin from Republican owned news networks. They attack Sen. Clinton on EVERYTHING! Then they turn her statements, counter arguments, quotes out of context, into attacks on Obama. You would think that average people would understand who is being chosen for the Democrats by the REPUBLICAN OWNED MEDIA. They're choosing the guy they want their side to beat. Get a clue ill-informed, inexperienced, voting citizens. They are the same one's that sold us (well, not me) Bush. He was a nice guy you could have a beer with too! He was a regular guy who was just honest about himself too! Same pitch, different guy. But that will disappear once their own candidate is up against him. Those of us who have been around a while know, Chris Mathews, Wolf Blitzer, Tim Russert, I could go on and on; are Republican leaning. They can deny it, but their slanted coverage throughout the years, has given them away. Then again, I guess it may only be obvious to those who are Historians or Political Scientist, or just plain savvy.

Jo   January 16th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

Obama does not have the economic or foreign policy experience to be president. In fact, he is not even a pretty face. When the people of the US vote for someone they say is more "attractive" before they vote on Hillary who has a proven track record, they are making a big mistake. People harp on Hillary for not showing enough emotion, and when she does they carp about that too. Also, Hillary is not attacking Obama, she is stating cold, hard facts. People voted on an inexperienced governor called Bush for "change" and his approval rating is at an all time low. He depended on his advisers for bad advice, and we are still in that unpopular war. Vote for Obama and you will regret that vote too.

Bette   January 16th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

I am sorry CNN..I have watched your programs for many years along with MSNBC. I am appalled at your coverage of the political landscape and this particular article and the comment submitters. I am angry with newspaper coverage today all over America...where all the headlines were about the Republican race in Michigan then almost all the pundits on TV and in the newspaper again denigrated Hillary Clinton & stirring up the old crap that the candidates clearly said they planned on staying away from during the debate (despite numerous baiting attempts failed)

The Great Creator of us all....please help all of us in the world and the people of the US as we choose the most important leader to get us out of this mess!
FOLLOW THE MONEY & GREED AMERICA! The personal IS political...follow the tracks and money! The media makes more money....journalists shame on you, you have sold out independent thinking in the name of your employers big business interests!

I can't believe we all watched the same political debate. 24 of your comment submitters were seething in their negative views and polarizing attacks on Hillary & some still fuming over the Clinton years. Interesting that maybe 2-3 of those were women.. the rest were all men. Ok lets get the gender issue out there again ok? About 7 comment submitters discussed logically the fact that Hillary was outstanding last night(mostly men)...demonstrated true leadership. Actually they all did really good. First we have the media...stirring and spinning the big race fight...then complaining of kumbaya ho-hum debate. It was great...on the issues. But alas, you have more people watching and reading (more money) if you stir it up.

The far right Republicans (who owns so much of the media and subsidiaries?) are lying in wait. Just read Karl Rove (both are 4 letter words...interesting..) about Michigan and putting down Hillary and Obama. From the most disgraceful, disgusting political "W" presidential terms hatchet man!

WAKE UP America...Hillary has what it takes. If all her background, political knowledge, experience was in Obama...I would vote for him instead.
CLINTON/OBAMA 2009! I love Edwards too.

Truethis   January 16th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

i've been a LEGAL SECRETARY for a top notch law firm for years now and I work with alot of attorneys and their desks are a mess and still is a mess but they are smart as hell when it's time to close their deals or convincing the jurors pertaining to each cases. But it was my responsiblities to keep them updated on current events or remind them important things that was coming up but I respect them even more because they were on top of their game and they knew their stuff.

As I watched what Obama said. I respect him for being honest because those lawyers had more major responsiblities than pushing paper that was my job.

CNN.......I ask to please stop. The Clinton is only going to make it harder for all American she basically went after Bush last night trying to energize the Democratic bases, but she never thought about the people who decided to become INDEPENDENT or the ones who are REPUBLICAN that thinking about voting DEMOCRATIC. It's now about US and figuring out how to bring this country together again.

I feel sorry for Obama because he trying to stay above the surface and not in the gutter with the Clintons but sometime I think you have to go there....... there to get them off of your back because they think that he's weak but I don't think so. It takes a strong man who wants unity and the best for this country. I have so much respect for you Mr. Obama because you're true class.

CONQUER and DIVIDE is their goal to get into the White House. The Clintons are doing it amoung BLACK AMERICANS vs LATINO AMERICANS; WHITE AMERICAN vs BLACK AMERICAN; and DEMOCRATIC vs REPUBLICAN. We as American has a chances to send a message that we are ready for TRUE change and that we're are tired of division that going on in our country and that WE want respect for ourselves and around the world. This can't keep going on, we're not getting anywhere too many people on both sides doesn't like the Hillary. Point blank.

anewdaypost.com   January 16th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

Nobody’s second place finish in Michigan

On Tuesday, With no other major candidates names on the ballot, Hillary Clinton was able to get 55% of the vote in the Michigan Democratic primary, but the real story on Wednesday should be the 225,506 + who left their house and went down to their precinct, knowing their state had been striped of its delegates, and voted uncommitted.

When “nobody” runs against her, “nobody” starts with 40%. And “nobody” didn’t even have to campaign. “Nobody” spent no money in this race. “Nobody” didn’t even run one add. What happens when you add John McCain or Rudy Giuliani in place of “nobody”?

As democrats we have to think long and hard about nominating a candidate who is so divisive. We shouldn’t spend these preciously important years ahead re-fighting old fights or addressing political grudges. If we are what we say we are than we must love our country more than this, and choose a leader who can bring Americans together. Our society’s needs are too great, the time to pivotal, for anything but fundamental change backed by broad-based support from the American people. Senator Obama proved in Iowa he can do this, and nobody proved it on Tuesday.

Caroline   January 16th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

Ladies...
Do you really think that Hillary is the right person for the job - or have you guilt-tripped yourselves into thinking you need to vote for her because she is a woman?
Hillary is just like her husband - the product of decades in Washington - she is manipulative and scheming. She will do and say anything to win. If her so called "experience" says anything about her, it is exactly that... say and do what you need to do (regardless of whether it is the right thing to do for the country, or if it is moral or ethical), in order to push your *personal* agenda.

And for those on this board who think that Hillary is being treated unfairly by the media, I'm certain she is pushing this story (aka, "attack") as hard as anyone else. There is a maxim in PR, if something is said loudly and often enough, it just might be believed. She is spewing venom because she hopes that some of her criticisms of Obama might actually stick.

It's not working on me.

Scott, Madison, WI   January 16th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Hillary's idea of (micro)management is to push her way through with a preordained agenda and plan, then criticize and vehemently rail against everyone who isn't in lockstep with the vision she sets forth. Haven't we already seen enough of these tantrums from the current occupant? This woman has little or no respect for anything other than the typical bureaucracy, and she surely isn't receptive to different views, styles or opinions other than her own.

rodger   January 16th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Got your book for christmas & looking foward to sharing it with my daughter soon. You can get your "REAL AMERICANS READ LOU DOBBS" free bumper sticker at my site this weekend (paired w/same 4 Gleen Beck) bet you can guess that site's name ez enough, keep up the pressure & remind America the Saudi's gave Billy 10 million for his libary!

Dave   January 16th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

Mrs. Clinton can't even control the people on her own campaign, what makes her think she can "manage" the entire Federal Government?

Obama is absolutley correct, therfe is a distinct difference between 'Leaders' and 'Managers' and this Country needs a Leader.

Ray   January 16th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

Obama could not even manage a McDonald.

nano   January 16th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

A leader is one with vision and good judgement. Obama is a leader as proved in his legislative success and organising in Illinois with immesurable success. He is visionary and has judgement that cant be compared to any other candidate. For a very short period of time, he managed to create a winning team that is now challenging Hillary's machine aged over 16yrs, which includes ex president and almost the whole of DNC. This is what a leader like Barack is compared to a manager Hillary;

Managers and Leaders are not the same. Hillary is by her own admission a manager. Obama is a LEADER. This country needs a leader, someone who can bring us back together.
Manager vs. Leader:
A manager takes care of where you are; a leader takes you to a new place.
A manager deals with complexity; a leader deals with uncertainty.
A manager is concerned with finding the facts; a leader makes decisions.
A manager is concerned with doing things right; a leader is concerned with doing the right things. A manager’s critical concern is efficiency; a leader focuses on effectiveness.
A manager creates policies; a leader establishes principles.
A manager sees and hears what is going on; a leader hears when there is no sound and sees when there is no light.
A manager finds answers and solutions; a leader formulates the questions and identifies the problems.

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 16th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

George W. Bush has done more to dangerously alter the function of the presidency than perhaps any other president in history. It's been obvious from day one that his goal for the presidency is to make it a position with absolute, unilateral power. And he's made these changes so slyly that most of the American public has no clue what he's done and how it could potentially affect future administrations if someone with his same lack of conscience and moral compass is ever allowed in the White House again. Nothing Hillary Clinton has said suggests she would do a thing to reverse the apparent benevolent dictatorship doctrine of the Bush administration.

Anyone notice that Hillary derided Bush's "politics of fear" in the debate last night...yet hammered home the idea that a president must be prepared for a terrorist attack on day one?

JAM   January 16th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Of course Obama can bring this country together, espcecially with supporters like Jackson and Sharpton. I am sure he will find nice cozy places for them in his administration. Can anyone say Secretary of State Al Sharpton? Think about it!

No, I am not a Republican or a Clinton supporter.

Bimmer   January 16th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Obama's confession about his poor organizational skills and losing papers unless handed in two second before he needs it explain why he is so great when he gives speeches but seems unprepared in the debate.

In each deabte, he is being beaten by Clinton on substance. He scores a point here and there for style.

He will be a good motivational speaker, perhaps for Annex Learning but a questionable choice for the Presidency of the most powerful nation on earth.

Jeff Sacramento, CA   January 16th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

CNN get real!!

"Obama has made several recent statements highlighting his inexperience in running a bureaucracy, and his lack of organizational skills"

How could an answer to one question in a debate equate to "several Statements"?

CNN THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM!!

I know CNN wants to increase viewer/readership during this election, but American's aren't stupid. If we keep reading and hearing these horribly skewed comments, WE WILL TUNE OUT!

Stop making the news and just report it!!

Viktoriya   January 16th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Dear Candy Crowley, are we talking about the same debate?
Because as much as you are trying to use negative wording to describe Sen. Hillary Clinton performance it is not working well.
Hillary didn’t attack Obama, she was answering questions with understanding of deep complicated issues. Obama was bumbling and grumbling. He is not good on debates. He is making jocks, that media immediately call – style. What kind of style is that? Are we choosing president or stylish guy for magazine cover?
Please, Senior Political Correspondent, report facts.

Tia   January 16th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

You people really need to leave Sen Hillary alone, How dare you talk like that about her, most of you out there really don't even have respect for yourself. As a supporter to Obama neither Hillary show them some respect, Shame on you people. Why can you all try to make peace instead of talking that dirty about others.

Joe, SoCal   January 16th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Another thing: Candy, you write that Obama has shown he "lacks organizational skils." There's only one small problem there..

OBAMA WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER!!

I mean, this is an inane editorial comment in a news piece. You need to go back to journalism school.

Jos   January 16th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Geesh, does Hillary think being a president of a country is like being a president of an NGO where you can do everything by yourself? Hillary, I am worried that with that type of leadership America is becoming a dictatorship.

Tia   January 16th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

You people really need to leave Senator Hillary alone, How dare anyone of you out there talk dirty like that about her, I bet some of you don't even know what are you talking about. But anyway for Senator Obama nothing again you at all I just don't trust your experience and also have a feeling if you do elected we're in deep trouble, maybe after having more knowledge about what really going around you in the future you'll get my vote, now I as a black africain I'll vote all the way for Hillary not for Obama or I'll rather turn to a republicain instead of voting for Obama.

mike   January 16th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Let us be honest here... Obama is alright. His speaking style is great but there is NO substance. We voted Bush in (well that is a matter of opinion) because we thought that he was "righteous" and "common" and look what we got? My point is this: When we keep voting in people that have the "talk" but don't "walk the walk" we get FLUFF. Ultimately hurting the economy.

Hillary Clinton – Is smart. Period. True she is rough and maybe cold hearted...but SHE IS SMART and people fear her... She has great ideas and plans... I dare any of you to go to her website look at her plans and then argue that they would hurt the economy?

We need a CEO. Hillary is the USA's Savior. Period.

JACK, NY, NY   January 16th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

I don't understand about obama supporters and their reasons. Obama is honest and he inspires. He can unite america blah blah blah. All these shoud be worried if they will afford thier home if they own one. They should worry about their jobs if they have or will be finishing school to get one. They are all dreamers talking crap. Please don't be so stupid. When economy is gone down the tube then all this inspiration means crap. America needs job creation, decline in foreclosure. Inspiration means something only if there is opportunity. For opportunity you need doer not talker.

CK, Arlington, VA   January 16th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

It is very telling that Hillary has never run anything.......THIS WOMAN HAS ABSOLUTELY NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE! Micromanager....indeed!!!

35 years of experience.....yeah, right. 35 years of lying, smears, corruption maybe.

Bob, Florida - RFO   January 16th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Education:
In 1974, at age 19, earned her B.A. in political science, Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1975, she obtained her Master's Degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame.

First worked in the State Department in 1977, during the Carter administration, as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs.

In 1981, at the age of 26, she received her Ph.D. in Political Science from the Graduate School of International Studies at Denver

Academic Career:
Stanford University as an Assistant Professor in Political Science (1981–1987).
Granted tenure and promoted, first to Associate Professor (1987–1993)
Provost, the chief budget and academic officer of the university (1993–1999)
First female, first minority, and youngest Provost at Stanford
Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies,
Sspecialist on the former Soviet Union
Responsible for managing the Standford University's multi-billion dollar budget.

Non-Elected Political Career:
January 15, 2001, to become National Security Advisor to President George W. Bush.

Served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

National Security Advisor (2001–2005)

Secretary of State (2005–present)

Help us Condi – help us please!

Yes we will!

What about GOP Candidate & Condoleezza Rice '08!

sue03   January 16th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I am so irritated by the major media casting the Democratic Party nominating process as being down to just Sens. Clinton and Obama, that I am beginning to seriously consider changing my preferred candidate for our Feb. 5 primary in California. While I was leaning toward Sen. Obama, I am seriously thinking of switching my vote to John Edwards.

Dear Media: Please bring Sen. Edwards into your analysis instead of writing him off! I need more information to help me choose between Sen. Obama and former Sen. Edwards. Despite being a woman, I don't feel Sen. Clinton represents my beliefs as well as these two men. Perhaps in the future a different woman will run who is closer to my beliefs, and I will then proudly vote for a woman for president when I think that particular woman is the best choice. Sen. Clinton is too hawkish on foreign policy for me, and I am not impressed with her advisor, Richard Holbrooke.

Kim, Dallas, TX   January 16th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Gee, didn't take HIllary long at all to get the knives back out. She will manipulate anything to try to gain votes. I have a friend who runs a multimillion dollar company and he has no organizational skills. He is a visionary and surrounds himself with people who he can trust to carry out the details of the organization. People will buy into this though, as not many understand the dynamics of running large organizations. I watched the dabate last night and it was so refreshing to not have all of the nastiness. I guess I was sadly mistaken thinking Hillary could refrain from that for too long.

Jr., California   January 16th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Hey Hillary! Where'd you get 35 years of experience !?!? Someone out there in the Blogosphere please answer. I really want to know.

gman   January 16th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

Since Clinton didn’t get the endorsement of the union…she’s willing to support a legal challenge to suppress your vote. Wake up people….if she’s willing to do it now….what else is she willing to do to get elected. I don’t want to see her get the nomination because she has too much baggage. Half of the country is against her from the start. And the Republicans will spend the majority of their time trying to start investigations into whatever. I just want a fresh start with someone positive. Obama takes hits because of inexperience….but the fact is he has held an elected office longer than Hillary. He’s been in the trenches fighting for civil rights and labor unions. He got my vote and if Hillary wins the nomination…I won’t vote in the General Election.

BJJ   January 16th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

If clinton is the "hands on manager", she donot have supposed to take the support of her husband "fairy tale story".

Joe, SoCal   January 16th, 2008 7:14 pm ET

Candy Crowley, thanks for taking a fun Obama statement (where he was taking a jab at himself) and turning it into news story for Hillary.

When you write : "Obama has made several recent statements highlighting his inexperience in running a bureaucracy, and his lack of organizational skills," you have to back that up. This is journalism at its worst. Where is your support?

Sean McM   January 16th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Clinton is so right and clear about the operation of the ADMINISTRATIVE/OPERATIONS of the U.S. While not coming across as a micro-manager, she surely does make it clear accountability and oversight will be a hallmark of her administration. This is one of the critical areas of neghlect by Bush...so we now are ingesting poison in our food imports, or kids are teething the poison off their toys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And american idol rock star Obama chuckles as he states "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it," Bull S**t!
If this isn't illustrative of his arrogance in thinking he can run a popularity and likeability contest to ascend to the "throne", I do not know what is!
No, Mr. Obama, we do not want a President who has to be rescued moment by moment...Like an appealing dream of a luxury beach-front home, look again...it is built on stilts in the sand.....vulnerable and short lived.

Not stated by Clinton, but certainly clear to all of us who watch Congressional hearings on C-Span ( Dept of Justice, FDA on our using carbon monoxide to our meat and fish to cover up the look of otherwise microbial decaying processes, etc)
Bush has stacked the deck in the administrative staff. They have been chosen from right wing 2nd rate colleges, and are retained for their blind allegiance in protecting their superiors.

So the incoming President has a padded cadre of upper level bureaucrats they now have civil service protection. Only Clinton seems to understand what is ahead for the CEO of our country, yes from DAY 1!!!

Quentin   January 16th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

WhatHas Hillary led on, HillaryCare,Oh that failed. And so will the dems if they nominate her and all of her "BAGSS"

Angela, TX   January 16th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

The point of having a highly functional, highly responsible job is having the ability to bring people together to new and exciting ideas. You do not reach the point of having those jobs or appointments without having those abilities. Once you reach that point, you have other people who handle your filing, ordering, appointment books, BlackBerry and calendar management and phone answering functions as well as a multitude of other tasks. Once you reach the level of President, it would be my educated guess that you would reach far beyond what any of us knows, into a level of trusting a well appointed staff to handle these tasks for us. There are trained people out there who do these filing, appointment making and reminding jobs very, very well. The President has not trained for those jobs all of his life and should not be expected to have those particular skills. God forbid he should be delayed for an important meeting with State Leaders or peoples from our own country in an attempt to resolve important American or Foreign issues so he can find some paper or the other or straighten his desk. He is not trying out for Martha Stewart, but rather running for the President of the United States of America.

s.positive   January 16th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

After last night, is was clear to the smart ones in America who the next norminee is and it is clearly not the one who had lived in it before...

Tia   January 16th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

You people really need to leave Sen Hillary alone, How dare you talk like that about her, most of you out there really don't even have respect for yourself. As a supporter to Obama neither Hillary show them some respect, Shame on you people. Why can you all try to meke peace instead of talking that dirty about others.

Duncan, Richmond, VA   January 16th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

The LAST thing I want is a President who reads a half page, double spaced summary 2 seconds before a discussion and then makes decisions based on opinions of their staff.

If Senators were forced to read the laws they voted on instead of voting based on a 1 page summary written by an intern, then maybe they would not pass so many bad laws.

Only 1 senator actually read the Patriot Act before voting on it.. and you want someone in office that would do the same..?? Yes, I know Obama did not vote on the Patriot Act in 2001, but he would have had he been there.

Jose Card - Independent   January 16th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Obviously, Obama knows more about a president's job than Hillary ever dreams of.

The only thing that can save her campaign is for Bill to release the documents from the Clinton Library to substantiate her 35 years of experience. I am glad Karl Rove also mentioned it today.

The stake is very high for Hillary. It may even hurt her next run for NY senate.
If Bill won't release the documents till 2012, we can only believe that there is more damaging information than helpful in these documents.
"What are the Clintons hiding from us? " is a natural question.

Honesty is still the best policy, which may build up Hillary's character, integrity and conviction for her senate run in 2013, which is after Bill releases the documents.

"HRC lacks of conviction of anything." – Prof. Robert Reich, Bill's former adviser.

You have to pay attention to politicians criticizing the candidates from their own party or endorsing the candidates from the opposition party. This is significant information for the voters. Unfortunately, Dr. Reich isn't alone.

MK, Los Angeles, California   January 16th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Anyone who thinks the job of the President is to micromanage the entire federal bureacracy is naive. If one tried that they would not have enough time to do anything else. Everyone knows (or at least should know) that the way Presidents manage the federal bureacracy is by whom they nominate to fill the various posts at the top of that bureacracy. Senator Clinton knows that, but she hopes to make some cheap points on something she knows is a load of BS. If, on the other hand, she truly believes she has to manage all the day-to-day details of the bureacracy, then she will without question be one of the worst Presidents this country has had.

A.Z.   January 16th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Well I would simply like to point out to you all while the comment on wisdom being achieved through hard work and time, is very much a true statement, if i remember correctly Hillary Clinton was the first lady and her "experience" is trying to overhaul a health care system and failing. Admittedly I do not have a vast knowledge of Obama, i would rather have some one who doesn't call their "experience and wisdom" come from asking her husband how his day as president went.

David Corse   January 16th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Since when is telling the truth an attack. Obama's comments scare me a great deal. I think it is extremely important that someone take a hands on style. Our current President left the job to others and see where it has gotten us. I am not looking for someone who will leave it to others to do the job.

The press is now so intrigued with Obama that no matter what he says, if anyone questions him, it is an attack. Give me a break. I want someone with a vision, but I want someone with a vision who has sense enough to know what is and what isn't possible. The President doesn't act in a vacuum. He or she is not a dictator. Just because you say you will do something doesn't mean you will be able to do it.

I like Obama, but I am not willing to take such a chance right now. Vice president yes, but he won't get my vote to be the presidential candidate.

SM, Michigan   January 16th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Where is the story about Wexler bring Articles of Impeachment before the House last night against Cheney? Does anyone care???THIS is more important than candidates sniping at each other.

Patrick, NY, Ny   January 16th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

UMMM...How is this an attack?

CLinton 08!

cindy   January 16th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

As a Black Africain American.

I just want it to let all the candidates know to put all anger behind by focusing on the Americans best interest not truing to make history, and also focus on what's best for the Country.
It's all about politic by attacking each other have some respect for one another, be professional, act like an adult.
By acting like that what kind foot step would you like us to follow?
Cindy

Deborah A Barnhardt   January 16th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

This is an Italian saying. Just what I thought after reading all the comments on this site. Again, Madonna, mia!!!

bob friedlander   January 16th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

Hillary will be a good Chief of Staff for a President Obama or a President Edwards who are both visionaries while Hillary seems to be a great paper chaser,

AJ from calif   January 16th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

Glenn,
Your arguments premise is flawed.
Obama has the same wisdom as say, a Colin Powell regarding Iraq. And Obama has EARNED his achievements via Harvard Law and the following legislative experienceat the State and now Fed level. HIllary can't match that. He's even been a legislator longer than her.

Wasn't Hillary practicing real estate law? Not quite "Executive" achievement or credentials wouldn't you say?
Obama TAUGHT Constitutional Law. I'd say that, at the very least, matches HIllary's "first lady" experience (which I don't think is very credible).

Don't forget He's been getting ready for this since Kindergarten. ;)

Bill, Albany, NY   January 16th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

God save us if Clinton becomes president but then again the flip flopper Romney and the Evangelical moonbat Huckabee arent much of a choice either. Sounds like 2004 all over again.

Larry from Purdue   January 16th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

Democratic leaders in the West want Barack, because they see how unlikely it would be to win Colorado, Nevada, or Arizona without the right kind of candidate on the ticket.

Ann   January 16th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

"There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style."

For anyone that is not old enough to remember this, it almost destroyed the Clinton Presidency. After this happened, she was removed from any actions that had anything to do with the Presidency. We (the Democrats) lost the Senate and House) in 1994.

This is what she calls "management". It sounds alot like "I'm the decider"

The President of the United States does infact need to be able to work across party lines to get things done. Hillary was not able to do that in the early 90's, and continues to be very devisive today.

It definitely is about style, when you need to get everyone to work together, as you can see in the current administration. We definitely do need a Uniter, not a Divider. Barack Obama is that person. I trust that the White House staff will be able to keep his desk organized and his notes filed. He will be able to do what very few politicians are able to do and that is bring the country back together as One.

PulSamsara   January 16th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   January 16th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

Hillary's attacks on Obama are coming so frequently now until one has to remind themselves that she's a democrat and not a republican, or is she a republican and not a democrat. Hillary attacks the word attack, when is she going to stop. I guess she won't stop until I make up my mind to vote for Obama.

PulSamsara   January 16th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I'll take Barack Obama's leadership skills over Hillary Clinton's bad judgement every time. Micro-manage us out of your war Hillary.

Fem4Hillary   January 16th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

The only thing I hear come out of Mr. Obama's mouth speech after speech is he will bring "unity" to all.
I guess if he wins we should be prepared to sit in a circle, hold hands and sing "kumbaya".

Hillary 08

Jeanie   January 16th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Hillary is a how to president which means she's going to be controlling. Presidents don't control, they inspire and sets direction. The president will have a huge federal bureaucracy to implement policy. The President also needs to engage, dialogue, and coalition-build across the aisle to gain support and funding for his agenda.

Hillary demonstrated her control and intimidate leadership style with the ONLY policy issue she had control over during her husband's – HEALTHCARE.

She's not a leader.

pgul   January 16th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

I think that Hillary would be a better president than Obama! Obama is very young and every each year we get more mature and experienced!
Don't we?He needs few more terms to get there!

Derek, IA   January 16th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Do you want to know who the two least experienced Presidents were? George Washington had none, and Abraham Lincoln spent eight years in the Illinois legislature and two in the U.S. House of Representatives. I challenge the voters to select a candidate based on their qualities.

For those that don't think this is an attack, you must realize that in politics there is no difference between "contrast" and "attack"–no matter what Mitt Romney says.

Let's just have a Hillary Clinton vs. Mike Huckabee election so that 70% of the country hates both candidates. That would be an appropriate way to continue the country's dissatisfaction with government

Jack, Greenville, SC   January 16th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

I wish that someone in these debates would outline for everyone exactly what the president does, and ask them to only present ideas that they could actually implement as president and only comment on those positive attributes that they can clearly tie to the role of the president.

Pamela   January 16th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

I think that if Obama starts slipping, the independant votes will go to Mit Romney!
MI is a proof for this! As bad as Obama goes Mit Romney will pick up!

Hekmat Noori   January 16th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

I think we need someone who is truthful to the public like Obama because everyone is sick and tired of lies and misleading people and taking the country to wrong direction for their own agenda. Obama was very truthful when he said "I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it". Most people are like this but they never say the truth nor they talk about their weakness honestly but Obama was very truthful and honest so that's why he will get my vote. I am sure many people out there want someone new and fresh like Obama who has bright mind and new direction.

kjmatthews   January 16th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Watching the debates is very telling for Obama . . . hope this, dream that, etc, etc. I want as much as the next person for Washington to turn around on both sides of the aisle but the reality is that the bureaucracy is not just going to lay down – he must be able to deal with it. The presidency cannot be delegated while the president makes nice. As someone else said, we had unity under Bush after 9/11 . . the "change" must come from people, it will not come from a single president. Obama '16.

James Brown ( Independent )   January 16th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

The kind of experience Clinton brings to the table is TOXIC to America. She is BUSH on steriods when it comes to dividing the country.

aware   January 16th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

Well said Glenn! Thanks!

Janet   January 16th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

I think Barack Obama's answer to the debate question about his biggest weakness is exactly why he is the best person to lead this country. His biggest weakness is that he needs a good personal assistant. Hillary (gets impatient and frustrated) and Edwards (gets emotional) are not what this country needs. They want to fight to change Washington. We do not need fighters, we need a leader, a negotiator, a compromiser. That's the only way we will be able to change this country and get it going in the right direction. Obama has demonstrated over and over again that he wants to work with others to make the change happen....fighting is just going to polarize the country more than ever and we'll have the same gridlock in Washington that we have now. We need Obama to be President so we can say once again "Proud to be an American!".

Let's be real   January 16th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

Here's a scenario of Obama in office:
"Here's my vision of where the country needs to go. Blah blah blah...Get rid of bureaucracy...unite..blah blah"
Cabinet advisors:
"So what exactly do we need to do?"
Obama:
"My job is to inspire the American people, because no one can do it better than I can. I set the vision. You figure out how to make it happen."
Cabinet advisors thinking:
"Ooh...I see power and money coming our way, since Mr. President will probably never remember to ask for accountability. Oooh..."
Let's be realistic here. This may very well be what happens if Obama becomes president.
And Mr. Obama, you are wrong about what you said:
"I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can.."
Hillary's actions inspire me more than your words will ever do. In fact, I almost fell asleep reading your NH "concession speech."
Talk about arrogance.

Mark   January 16th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Glenn, what is it exactly that Hilary has done to be "ready for the job?" She's been a junior senator just like Obama.

Has she been governor?
Run a company?

Seems their "qualifications" are about the same.

Karen   January 16th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

I think I missed it. What was the attack? I get the bloggers attacking the candidates, I just didn't see the candidates attacks on each other or the media attack on a candidate.

Greg Jones Cleveland, Ohio   January 16th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

Blacks Learning
'Goldwater Girl' Hillary Was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964....Feel Deceived !

A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized the great and monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for civil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her 'civil rights experience' during every speech given to blacks audiences. Novak writes of one such speech at Selma's First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of the "bloody Sunday" freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: "As a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging on behalf of a more perfect union." But Novak's article states that there's a big problem with her statement.

The fact is, in 1963, the same period of time she speeks of at all black church appearances, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segregationist and one of the most vocal senators adamently against the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon B. Johnson. Novak writes "...how then could she be a 'Goldwater Girl' in the next year's presidential election?" He continues, "...she described herself in her memoirs as 'an active Young Republican' and 'a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.' (Hillary worked on Golwater's presidential campaign)

Novak adds, "As a politically attuned honor student, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me (Novak) by Democratic old-timers who were shocked by Sen. Clinton's temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy." Novak adds, "What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays her campaign's panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious competitor for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton's plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand, the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.

While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention, she is involved in a real struggle against credible opponents led by Obama. No wonder she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady in Chicago's suburbs who never really existed."

We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak's findings which bring one main thought to mind. Wake up Black America! DON'T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, Hillary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. King died for. As a 'Goldwater Girl' she was even against Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting to the mountaintop. !

Greg 'Peace Song' Jones

Don't be naive   January 16th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Here's a scenario of Obama in office:
"Here's my vision of where the country needs to go. Blah blah blah...Get rid of bureaucracy...unite..blah blah"
Cabinet advisors:
"So what exactly do we need to do?"
Obama:
"My job is to inspire the American people, because no one can do it better than I can. I set the vision. You figure out how to make it happen."
Cabinet advisors thinking:
"Ooh...I see power and money coming our way, since Mr. President will probably never remember to ask for accountability. Oooh..."
Let's be realistic here. This may very well be what happens if Obama becomes president.
And Mr. Obama, you are wrong about what you said:
"I don’t think there is anybody in this race who can inspire the American people better than I can.."
Hillary's actions inspire me more than your words will ever do. In fact, I almost fell asleep reading your NH "concession speech."
Talk about arrogance.

Rick   January 16th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

lookie lookie, hillary is at it again. what experience do you have except for talk. i dont see anything that you have really done except complain and make false hoods. with your comments you are alienating all the democrates.

claire gaines   January 16th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Why do you persist in calling Hillary Clinton's remarks about Obama's self-declared disorganization an "attack"? She is merely stating the facts - that he gave her! She has not attacked him. On the contrary, the shoe may well be on the other foot.

Obviously, the media relishes the sight of blood and often creates a problem where none exists by taking statements out of context and/or distorting them. I wish you would all just do your job & report the news (instead of creating it) in a fair and balanced way. The freedom of the press is extremely important, but not that doesn't include the freedom to distort the truth.

I'm sure this e-mail will change nothing you do, but at least I get to vent my anger with the way the media is reporting the news. Maybe if enough people complain, something good will happen and you guys will stop fomenting trouble and provide more accurate reportage.

Stephanie WI   January 16th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

well to comment on these many interseting and enlighten message. I would have to agree with most of them about Hillary being in the wrong here. Honestly, you have no room to talk if you just a few days early said you are not an organised person yourself...yet attacked someone who has the guts to admit he is not also. Sense? I think not!

You can go around looking for people to vote for you if you just contradict yourself. What kind of President do you think we want? No someone like that I can asure you . So if you are going to say somethig stick to the first thing you said and dont change you story half way through for whatever reasoning may it be to attacked someone else or to make yourself look better.

Cate Malone   January 16th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

Hilliary would make a good President, so would John Edwards, so I feel pretty lucky to be a Democrat right now. BUT – I will be voting for Obama for two reasons: 1) I believe he can unite the country, I truly believe in him and 2) The second the world hears the next American president's name: President Barack Obama, we will regain allies all over the world, and Americans will gain new found respect. The era of "old white men " is over.

Ryan, Los Angeles CA   January 16th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

They are Obama's words, people. Hillary didn't attack - Obama dug his own hole to crawl into.

Other than having a good speech-writer and a voice like Lawrence Fishburne, there's nothing special about Obama, anyway.

He's all talk, while Hillary has an actual plan. I haven't heard any specifics from Obama on any "change" he's going to make... and I can't believe so many people are blindly falling for his pep-rally.

Hillary is the most informed, most prepared, and most deserving candidate.

Matt   January 16th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

Obama mentioned that COOs are "paper shufflers." Huh? Inexperience, indeed.

Sylvia   January 16th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Strangely enough, the candidate who reminds me most of Bill Clinton in 1992 is Barack Obama. Bill was an outsider, maybe a little naive, with a message of hope and change. And he was the best president of my lifetime.

Carole Ca   January 16th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Glen, Cary, NC: I agree with your view completely.

TO POT AND THE KETTLE: There is a truce; they've agreed to eliminate using race as an issue. (Sure hope Michelle Obama gets that message.) It is perfectly right and proper for candidates to question their competitors positions on issues, on readiness for the job, etc., as they describe themselves and the differences between themselves and other candidates. Get used to it. It's simply the way campaigns run. And Hillary has not lied nor flip-flopped. She may have changed her mind on a few issues over time as situations changed. We must have national leaders who are able to adjust their opinions and positions as time and events dictate. We've just suffered almost 8 years with an unyielding president who has led our nation into a terrible economic crisis and remains steadfastly stubborn concerning the horrible, unnecessary war he started.

Brandon   January 16th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

Go Hillary! Obama doesn't actually understand what a president does and it's obvious from his remarks on not being a COO. Do we need another George Bush-like president who leaves all the important work up to his advisers? Obama is untested and dangerous. Hillary 08!!

MariaDR   January 16th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

He gets bashed for being honest.. Hillary doesn't know what the word honest means.

jp/michigan   January 16th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

when applying for a job, listing all your experiences will get the job for you. Hopes and dreams are great, but until you show what you are capable of doing or have done , you just keep on hoping and dreaming. Mr. Obama will be counting on others to help him make the right decisions. Sorry that's what Buch did and look what it got us. Being President is like being CEO of the country. I hope after 46 yr. of voting democratic , I don't have to change to republican or independent. I for one want someone in the oval office day one to take care of all the problems Bush is leaving. I believe Hillary can handle the work.

Bob, Florida - RFO   January 16th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

OK fair game but I am so sick of the virtual incumbents!

The best CEO's, MD's, Commanding Officers. etc that I have had in my life time were not micro managers the were LEADERS. goal setters, delegators, criteria for success definers, etc…

The President is not the Chief Operating Officer of the United States of America. He is the Commander-in-Chief!!

Please don't confuse attention to detail with leadership! I will state one name and that's Ronald Reagan.

This is another really stinking statement by the Hillary camp. It also highlights the fact that Hillary knows exactly what her camp and supporters are doing on the mis/disinformation front!

I hope like hell that the GOP are smart enough to run Condi Rice as the VP.

Condi will make dog food out of Hillary and a GOP ticket that includes Secretary Rice on it will defeat the Democrats as it negates every niche that Hillary tries to run in.

I’m a Barack Obama supporter and I hope he wins the nomination but my second choice, as I am a Republican for Obama, will be the GOP nominee if the right combination runs.

Go Obama /Edwards ’08 OR Go McCain /Condi Rice ‘08

Brenda   January 16th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

I swear Hillary is really Forrest Gump. She's met MLK, RFK, JFK, she hangs out with a guy named Bubba, she was involved in Watergate. All she needs to do is say that the went to 'Nam, and wiped her face and made the Happy Face on a towel. And best of all: Bill's women are like a box of chocolates-a whole bunch of them-and they've all been pinched. OMG wake-up woman-you just AREN'T all that. WHAT D*** experience are you talking about. YOU WERE FIRST LADY. You weren't even the first to hyphenate your last name (Edith Galt-Wilson). There is NOTHING original about you. Just a reminder, YOU DID NOT HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCE TO BE IN MEETINGS. So, what meetings were you at? And, when were you there? And, WHY were you there?

Ca Native   January 16th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

WAIT... wasn't it Hillary Clinton who had federal subpoenas seeking Rose Law firm files? And 2 years later they turned up in her White House Residence??

Is that an example of Hillary's "hands-on" approach to managing affairs?

Foreigner   January 16th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

It is very clear that this article aims at presenting Hilary as a controlling WOMAN. One more media attack trying to stir up subconscious fears of female dominance.

diegosalas   January 16th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Obama would be a better boss, and get better talent.

He's the one that we want and need.

Barbria   January 16th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

I used to be a big Clinton supporter, however (thank goodness) the primaries and debates have shown me a very unappealing side to Hillary Clinton. It is so obvious that Hillary & Bill feel she has a right to the presidency, and both of their sulking, attacks, and her crocodile "I love America so much I want to cry" tears have completely turned me off. Now she wants to debate who is the better paper-pusher? Today she is saying the country needs a Chief Bureaucrat, by the time that gets spun around in the pundit soup, next week she will be back on the "change" band-wagon and swearing she's not a typical Washington bureaucrat. Make up your mind, Hil!

Hillary will lose the democratic nomination for one inescapable reason. She IS the most polarizing democrat in the field and there is no doubt if she is the nominee another republican will be in the White House.

Zen   January 16th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Hillary has a very good point. At any job managing those around you is the very first thing in doing things right. Eating up what ever those around you offer is not the answer. And what about the vision what does it mean.... Obama's thinking in governing by leaving managing and thus leadership on every issue is what our current president is doing.
A good coach, a good leader, a good CEO are all well organized and good at managing.
Sloppy at your desk means sloppy at your job.
Cheers
to Hillary

mmtz texas   January 16th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

I read the other comments and I have this to say. She's already proven she has the leadership skills, outlook, and direction of which our nation should be. She's already put in the effort and time into seeking her goals to a higher level then Obama. So yes even the little things like keeping yourself together is important. Even if it means filing a piece of paper away that holds the name to someone that can allow a major peace treaty in the middle east. So back off boys.

Chris   January 16th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Ron: Hillary isn't suggesting micromanagement. A macromanagement style still involves some paper. She's pointing out the obvious that it's probably not a good idea as a presidential candidate to talk about how disorganized you are. That's very different from saying it's the President's job to do remedial paperwork. If you're a naturally disorganized person to the point where no one should even hand you a piece of paper that's at all important, that doesn't make you seem very presidential.

It doesn't disqualify Obama at all, but what kind of a candidate says he's unable to keep track of any papers? Shouldn't a President have some managerial skills?

delise   January 16th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

It was also big of barack not to counter-attack bill clinton for what he said. I guess they will try his wife next.

shaun   January 16th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

This woman is absolutely ruthless. She follows the karl rove jr style of politics which is to bite off of every word you say, spin it and hope the american people are stupid enough to fall for it hook line and sinker so she can get the white house and claim the office that's "righhtfully hers". I feel as if Obama doesn't have the right to respond to any of her malicious attacks because if he does the press will make it seem as if he's the author of the bickering. If he stands up for himself it will be him that's characterized as being just like hillary, but what can you do if you decide to take the high road and not fire back with negative rethoric and still get trashed by the media? Hillary and her campaign crones know their out classed. They know Obama has sparked something in the american people that surpasses anything she could ever dream of sparking, and that is hope. Barack is the man that will restore our place in the world as an honest broker for peace, and will be able to unite congress allowing for real change to take place here and abroad. He's straight forward, with an inbreed quality to lead that's transparent. I really believe the world is watching this campaign, and they probably want even more than us for obama to be president. They need america, but if america continues to elect crookpot leaders who don't have a clue and can get nothing done, then the world will ignore us.

The time is now....vote obama

Bukky, Balt MD   January 16th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

"There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style." I mean really it is that simple....

Plus they are both lawyers.....If there are any Lawyer on the Blog you know there are Two type of lawyers:

Disorganized but a genius non-theless and WINS when it counts. They sorround themselves with competent organized people <-- OBAMA

Anal/OCD, intelligent but falls apart when things are not in order or when things fall into crisis mode. This is the partner that makes law clerks cry and 1st year associate look for goverment jobs <-- Hillary

Bastien Beauchamp (NYC)   January 16th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Obama has more talent than Hillary and is well supported.

What we can notice though is that Hillary is playing bad politic tricks. Again. Talk about a change.

Dee Ward Mena, AR   January 16th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Well we all know that it doesn't matter what Hillary says, it is wrong, no matter what obama says it is right. She couldn't say the right thing if someone gave her a question and then told her the answer they wanted and she gave that answer. They would change what they wanted her answer to be and then say she is attacking obama. If they ask her what 2 + 2 is and she said 4, they would try to make it 5. We all know that If she opens her mouth and says good morning they would find a way to say she is attacking obama. Hey, get real, this is a race for the candidacy of the President of the United States. You have to try to tell people the differences between you and the other candidates and that is not attacking. That is stating the facts. So all of you who want to ATTACK Hillary everytime she opens her mouth, try doing the same to obama and the rest of the candidates. Let's be fair in our ATTACKING....

Ron, TX   January 16th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Glenn,
Obama isn't your average garden tomato. No squeezing necessary. He's ready to be picked.

Tina   January 16th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

I thought they had a truce. Hillary attacked Barack about his management skills. She knows deep down that he is a better candidate than she and she can't find anything to knock him down. I am glad that Barack is a bigger person and he just seems to ignore what she says about him. That's right Barack, stay focused-stay smart! I believe liberal hillary clinton would be another george bush-the devil comes in many disguises.

Amy, Kazoo   January 16th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

So wait, now the candidates can't differentiate between themselves? Any differentiation from the Clinton camp is going to be seen as an attack by the "reporters" from CNN? and by the way, Candy, nice title. Maybe turn down the bias a little, hmm?

James D.   January 16th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

HRC can not even let a "light" humorous moment slide without turning it into an attack. How can she sleep at night?

Yet she continues to tout her so called superior experience and Obama's lack thereof. Time Magazine has this to say of Obama's experience vs Hillary's:

Time Magazine:
"Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.

Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator."

NOTE! : "HAS A LONGER RECORD IN ELECTED OFFICE THAN SHE DOES".

Spin *THAT* Hillary.

Kilroy M. VT   January 16th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Next thing you know the Clintons will accuse Barack of not wearing the right color socks.
If that doesn't shut down his candidacy, the Clintons will charge that Barack feeds his dog the wrong kind of dog food.
If that doesn't bring Barack down to size, the Clintons will accuse him of having the wrong air presure in his tires.
And so forth.
What frustrates the Clintons and their people is that none of the dirty tricks they've used successfully in the past against others are working on Barack.
Barack keeps takes the high road and you have to admire him for that. He's made of far better stuff than the Clintons.

Nick   January 16th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Hillary does have a point. You do need to be organized enough to know what is going on in the bureaucracy. Obama is setting himself up to look like a figurehead ran by his staffers. It definately would not be a great idea considering the heat he will get by the Republican Candidate once the general election comes around, of course assuming he wins.

Tom Davie   January 16th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Listen UP.

Do you guys not get it ?

CNN is trying to sell headlines. They cant make Obama look bad or we are 'racists' or part of the Hillary Machine.

The cant keep quiet. Why? look how (lol) non exciting the Republican race is. Not much to flame about.

The more the media uses every angle to attack Clinton, the more the voters get SICK of it as SPIN .

As we painfully found out in NH, the SPIN causes people to reject that candiate as being artificially being propped up. It makes Obama look FAKE.

CNN knows all this. You guys are naive to think all the lopsided SPIN on Obama is helping the guys cause. The ridiculous the headlines are , the more it actually helps Clinton.

Think about it. After all the SUPER SPIN, why isnt Obama CRUSHING clinton ?

JACK ny, ny   January 16th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

If anyone thinks organisational skills are not important then they either have never held any job or still haven't joined adult life. You need to be organized to get things done even if you stay home mom of two kids. Let alone trying to run a country alone.
It is just little too pathetic reasons or excuses I am hearing from Obama supporters. More over the responses are immature with no thought process behind it.

James   January 16th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

WHY DOES THIS ARTICLE NOT INCLUDE OBAMA'S REBUTTAL WHICH ABSOLUTELY DIMINISHED HER CHARGE. HILARY DOESN'T WANT TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, SHE WANTS TO BE SUPREME RULER- NOT HAVING IT

Curious in Charleston, South Carolina   January 16th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

CNN:

You may have worked this question over last year but since most of us have only started paying attention in the past month, could you please help your readers understand precisely what it is that backs up Senator Clinton's claims of "having experience creating change"?

I've spent time on Senator Clinton's website and can't, for the life of me, figure out what backs up her "experience creating change" claims.

It seems as if everyone has just said, "yeah, she's been around for a long time" and "well, she was first lady in Arkansas and DC" so she must have experience. Yet, during her White House years, according to her own website, I see very little evidence of what SHE actually accomplished. In the New Hampshire debate, she pointed to Healthcare as the biggest example of "experience creating change" during the former Clinton Administration. Huh?

That's not to diminish her role as "sounding board" for former President Clinton and maybe that's all the experience we need. That probably did give her tremendous perspective that the other candidates don't have.

But, it seems to me that she's premised her candidacy on having all this experience "getting results" and there are few examples to back up the claim.

Could you please start asking what she has actually accomplished (like perhaps in next week's debate)? Seems like this is the huge elephant in the room and that she has simply gotten a pass on it.

Rob Mitchell   January 16th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Clinton, get over yourself. Obama's comments were made in jest. I hardly think he'd make a decision as big as war without reading everything he could, and communicating with dozens of advisors. You're a bright woman and you understand. Run a clean campaign and actually stick to your word. THAT's what people are looking for in this race, not more mudslinging about how well you think you can organize a desk.

concerned in iowa   January 16th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Give me a break Hillary! He's just being honest, you should try it sometime. If you think you can micro-manage the White House, good luck with that – it worked real well for Carter, didn't it?

Lola   January 16th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Obama needs to respond more strongly to this latest attack.

1) Bush was an operating officer of the Texas Rangers, and also had lots of experience governing a state and managing a budget. Clearly, the translation to a strong presidency didn't happen.

2) Hillary has no executive or operating officer experience herself. Being First Lady of Arkansas and then First Lady of the US is not operating experience. Yes, she is a senator - so is Obama. Yes, she worked for children - he worked organizing communities and in the state senate. I think the "experience" argument is a wash.

Obama's campaign needs to make these points clearly and often.

Vincent, Tamaqua, Pa   January 16th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glenn, Cary, NC   January 16th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

To put it simply, the opposite of experience is not change, it's inexperience. I would have welcomed the opportunity to vote for Barack Obama eight or twelve years from now, assuming he worked hard to get ready for the job; but, as of now, he isn't prepared. All of us who though we knew everything when we were 20 or 30 or 40 and who are able to look back on those days realize how foolish we were. It frightens me that Obama claims credit for some special brand of wisdom that doesn't depend on knowledge or achievement. Wisdom doesn't suddenly sprout like a weed in a man's soul, it grows slowly over time like a garden. Young Mr. Obama has a lot of gardening ahead of him.

Mohammad, LA CA   January 16th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

riiight,how does it help obama to let everyone know that he is messy and loses stuff? I mean so do I, but I don't go around telling people, right?

Jake, ATL   January 16th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

I think it's a mistake to think of the office of the Presidency as the Head of the Bureaucracy. I don't want another bureaucrat in the Office. The only way a bureaucrat would be effective in this current government if both the House and Senate were heavily Democratic. We need someone who can unite the country on common grounds. If Hillary thinks she can effectively run the government by running it HERSELF on HER terms, she's in for a BIG disappointment. It's already well-known that she's the most polarizing figure in the race.

Ray   January 16th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

CNN an their headlines??? Its not an attack!! Its her running for PRESIDENT!!!!

connie floyd, crockett,texas   January 16th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

GO HILLARY GO!!!!! you were outstanding last night!

Wes   January 16th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Hmmm I know Id rather a President to lead and not shuffle paperwork. If he is a true leader he will hirer a compentent staff to handle his secratarial needs. Im not voting for someone cause they know how to file their paperwork properly, Im voting for the person who can make the correct paperwork be written to pass laws.

Wayne   January 16th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Is CNN Pro Hillary? Why didnt they quote Obama's rebuttal? Hillary unsuccessfully tried to compare Obama to Bush. The two couldnt be more dissimilar. Obama explained that Bush wasnt a failure because he couldnt keep an appointment. He failed because he had ideological foriegn policy, would not listen to others outside his circle, because he had poor judgement and because he could not bring people together for the common good.

Obama's rebuttal was well thought out and spot on but you wouldnt know this if you read CNNs article.

CNN quick question. How many times did you air Hillary's teary eyed moment before NH vote? 100 times...200 maybe? You even said it was sincere...PUhLease..that was a calculated move to show emotion..her advisers the previous day said we need to make her seem human and go after young people. Everything is calculated..none of it is genuine.

Trever   January 16th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Even the headline of this article is spun for Obama...

Hillary is talking about being able to lead and run our government. She is contrasting that with Barack's ability to do the same thing.

THAT is not an "attack." It's a comparison of styles.

When will the media start doing their jobs right and just state the facts and leave out the spin.

Cat, Costa Mesa, CA   January 16th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Blah blah blah!! Everyone talks about the repubs being childish with the name calling and so forth, but the dems are just as catty! Or maybe just clinton anyways!

Im sick of the whiny politicians screaming for attention, vindication, and retribution!
And why is it that Clinton feels that as a president she would need control over every single facet of american life?!?!

"There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style."
CNN, you said that right!!

Mark V.   January 16th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Isn't it hilarious to hear Hillary Clinton criticize Obama for his admitted lack of organization in personal behavior just a few days after she freely admitted she was not an organized person?

jesus a cespedes   January 16th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

OBAMA THE "AMERICAN DREAM"
VIVA OBAMA

Robert Bell   January 16th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

So much for the truce!

Hillary will attack and attack and attack until she wins.

That's all she can do.

Because if the focus returns to her and her record, well, then she's toast.

Tell me again how she made $100,000 in ten months as an amateur commodities trader?

Stuff like that, she doesn't want you to think about.

And there is a LOT of stuff like that.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" - Wizard of Oz.

Joe   January 16th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

She has enough with the Yucca Mountain and his major political donors point and she does not need to parse his words. Yucca Moutain is a huge huge issue in Nevada. She scored points showing Edwards voted against Yucca and poitning out that Obama's major supporter wants to continue to use Yucca.

It is already obvious he is inexperienced. He does terribly in these debates. He is only a good speaker when there is a crows and a teleprompter. He is not a leader.

Hillary: Leave the attacks to (all of us here) CNN comment submitters.

concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona   January 16th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

If he thinks you don't know need to know how to manuver the bureacracy in Washington boy is he in for a surprise. Yes you have to have a vision on where you want to take the country but dealing with congress and other countries you better know how to manuver the system. Really scary to me. I just can't vote for him.

amused   January 16th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

When did a candidates rebuttal or opinion on issues suddenly become an attack? This is another media spin on their campaign for Obama to make Hillary the cold calculating WOMAN candidate. Talk about an attack on women of America. I am as nearly tired of hearing the word attack as I am the word change.

How about Alternative Radio for a change and see if they get it right? Okay now you can attack.

Adam, New York   January 16th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Candy Crowley is such a biased reporter.

Tracy   January 16th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Rewrite:

Geesh now thats just not a good argument! Most of your CEOs are the same way but that doesn't mean that they can't run their company. Not a good attack.

Tracy   January 16th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Geesh now thats just not a good arguement. Most of your CEO are the same way but doesn't make they can't run their company. Not a good attack.

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 16th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

It is much better to have a president that is honest and one that has integrity and can bring the nation together than one that knows where every piece of paper is.

Obama/Edwards '08

John   January 16th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

How dare she bring up the Iraq war when she was the one who voted to authorize it in 2002!

Hillary Clinton is a cold, calculating, desperate, lying, hypocritcal just plain miserable person.

POT AND THE KETTLE   January 16th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

I thought there was a truce. Looks like Hillary lied and flip-flopped again!

Ann   January 16th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Hillary Clinton for COF Chief of Staff. She couldn’t even control her emotions in NH during the campaign what makes anyone think she is capable of running this country.. Oh yeah I forgot Daddy Bill will take care of it for her.

Hillary Clinton’s Experience= 35 years with Bill

Tom Davie   January 16th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

The Obama people fail to mention one important fact.

The whole country rallied behind George Bush after 9/11.

An entire bi partisan effort.

It had NOTHING to do with Bush, but rather the Issue.

Obama does not have the power to unite anything, just like every president before him had no power to do so.

The ISSUE would have to be important enough to override partisan politics.

And Clinton is correct. Bushie had no power to organize anything. His handlers did it all for him and he ended up highly manipulated.

Just like Obama will be if he is elected.

Mike,(MD)   January 16th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Forgive me for asking, but paper pushing is why they have a staff isn’t it? Assisting with issues is the job of the Presidential cabinet and their many staffs. Department heads oversee all of their staffs. Does Hillary plan on eliminating all of these positions and taking on the job of everyone? I thought the job of a leader was to govern over not to file away papers. A leader delegates these responsibility’s to others just as a CEO of large company does. I think the only office supply he needs is a pen to sign or veto bills for which it’s Congress’s job to manage the paper work. That is if they plan on firing their staff’s as well.

ray   January 16th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Is there anything that Hilary thinks she cannot do? When folks start saying they are perfect, I have plenty reasons to doubt them.

Ron, TX   January 16th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Leave it to Hillary to flat out lie about the truth behind Obama's statement. Can Hillary EVER tell the truth without bad-mouthing and misconstruing someone else's statements?

Obama is exactly right. It isn't the President's job to keep the filing cabinets organized. It isn't the President's job to clean his desk. That's what the white house staff are for… the President is the ultimate decision maker. The President is at the TOP of the bureaucracy. Everyone below him runs it. The President does not RUN the bureaucracy. That's what your chiefs of staff and secretaries of all the cabinets do. You appoint them, give them policies and goals, and let them do it.

What Hillary is suggesting is micromanagement, which is a HORRIBLE management style. As the article points out, that's one of the reasons she failed at one of the only policy initiatives she tried to get passed- health care in the early 90s. And further, she seems to suggest that the Iraq War wasn't a bad idea, just that it was mismanaged, which couldn't be further from the truth. And it's a VERY scary idea to imagine someone like Hillary, with zero military experience, trying to dictate generals' strategies on the ground.

And I also enjoy how Hillary suggests we need someone able to handle the bureaucracy, yet she doesn't have any executive experience, either.

Another Steve   January 16th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Yeah well Hillary, While your busy micro managing the issue of toilet paper in the executive bathroom, the lobbists and politicans will run the show. I would much rather have someone smart enough to realize the power in the Presidency lies in getting others in the cabinet and beyond to cooperate with your ideas. Let's face it when it comes to your abilities in working with others, your ambition always gets in the way.

Tamika Jackson   January 16th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

find it sickening that any of my black brothers and sisters would vote for Hillary Clinton. What claim does this woman have on the Black vote? What has she ever done in her life for Black folks? As I remember the Clinton years her husband bombed Serbia for two months because they were slaughering whites in Kosovo but he did nothing when one million blacks were slaughered in Rwanda. More young black men went to prison when her husband was president than at any time in our history, and with the stroke of a pen her husband could have banned racial profiling but he never had the time to do that either. Instead, these two Clintons who expect Black folks to kneel before them send their surrogates out to attack the character of Barack Obama and then when the media finds out where all the character assassination and dirty politics is coming from the Clinton's try and lie that it came from them. Are the American people crazy? Do you really want to go back to the time when polarization, womanizing, and non stop lying was the rule of the day?? Don't we as a country deserve better? Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air. He is loyal to his wife, is not a pathological liar, and he has a clear vision of where he wants to take the country and he will do so reaching across the aisle working with all people from different sides of the political spectrum. We need Obama. We don't need the past and we don't need or want any more Clinton's.

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