(CNN) - Bill Clinton became visibly combative with a reporter Wednesday after being questioned about a lawsuit in Nevada that is seeking to ban caucus meetings in nine casinos on the Las Vegas strip.
The lawsuit, filed by the state teacher's union - an organization that has backed Hillary Clinton's White House bid - came Friday, shortly after Barack Obama was officially endorsed by the Culinary Union. Culinary Union members primarily work in casinos, and could constitute the majority of participants at caucuses held at those locations.
The teacher's union is claiming the at-large caucus sites would unfairly have more weight in terms of delegate allotment than caucuses throughout the rest of the state. The lawsuit also takes issue with caucuses being held midday at those sites – which could make it easier for culinary workers to caucus than it will be for other Nevadans.
Critics of the lawsuit say it is a clear attempt to suppress Obama’s support, a notion with which the former president sharply disagreed.
"Do you really believe that all the Democrats understood that they had agreed to give everybody who voted in a casino a vote worth five times as much as people who voted in their own precinct? Did you know that?" the former president said, growing visibly upset. (Watch Clinton's back and forth with the reporter)
"What happened is nobody understood what had happened. Now everybody's saying, 'Oh, they don't want us to vote.' What they really tried to do was to set up a deal where their votes counted five times, maybe even more."
Clinton also maintained that his wife’s campaign had "nothing to do" with the lawsuit," and claimed the reporter was taking an "accusatory tone."
"Get on your television station and say, 'I don't care about the home mortgage crisis, all I care about is making sure that some voters have it easier than others should count five times, and when they do vote, when its already easier for them, their vote should count five times as much as others," Clinton said in a raised voice.
"If you want to take that your position, get on the television and take it," he added, as aides pulled him away. "Don't be accusatory with me, I had nothing to do with this lawsuit."
UPDATE: A federal judge has ruled that the Democratic Party can go ahead with the 9 at-large caucuses on the strip. The ruling could have a decisive effect on the result in the state given that recent polls show a dead heat between Clinton, Obama, and John Edwards.
Related: Clinton, Obama battle for upper hand in Nevada
– CNN's Alexander Mooney and Rebecca Sinderbrand
From CNN Politics
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THERE ARE OTHER CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! WE'RE SICK AND DISGUSTED AT THE CONSTANT MENTION OF THE CLINTONS.....SHE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY, SO STOP SHOWING HER OR HER FILTHY, CRUDE HUSBAND ON THE TICKER. CNN IS SO BIASED. SHOW JOHN EDWARDS....HE'S THE ONLY ONE QUALIFIED TO BE A CANDIDATE! HOW MUCH DO THE CLINTONS PAY CNN TO BE CONSTANTLY FEATURED ON THE 'TICKER?'
This is what I miss about Bill Clinton. Don't mess with slick willy – he will put you in your place.
Chris Wallace can tell you – I watch that youtube clip each and every morning how he shut him down and made him look like a 2 year old chump.
“COUNT ALL THE VOTES” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side in Las Vegas. In that case Hillary’s operatives file a lawsuit to disenfranchise the voters she wants to silence. More dirty tricks from the masters of sleaze. This is just the beginning for her.
“GET CORPORATE LOBBYIST MONEY OUT OF POLITICS” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side. In that case Hillary takes more of their money than all the other Democrat AND Republican candidates COMBINED.
What hypocrites. The saddest part is this corrupt bunch will win because – “WE WILL BE MAKING HISTORY BY ELECTING THE 1ST WOMAN PRESIDENT” she yells, and the uninformed and naive will flock to her like lemmings toward a cliff.
After, and because of her Presidency, it will probably be another 200 years until a woman gets a chance again.
CNN HAS NOT FEATURED ROMNEY EITHER..................IT'S AS IF HE DIDN'T JUST WIN A MAJOR PRIMARY! WHY NOT? IT'S MORE NEWS THAN BILL CLINTON!
Clinton plays God,anything wrong by him or his wife is good but the worse thing is any thing done by Republican or their opponent.In 2000 they blamed Bush and Republican for saying voters were disenfranchized.Now he supports strong for disefranchisement.
Oh, so they didn't know what they were voting for now? C-mon. I see a theme here. And the teacher's union is upset because voting is taking place in a casino, where those union workers work... on top of where they usually are... in schools... where teachers work.
And if bill really had a problem with everyone having a fair vote, which weighed the same, he'd be taking on the entire Caucus seeing how people in small towns have higher voting power than those in large areas...
Sorry Bill, no third term for you.
Crazy Billy! LOL
Put a muzzle on it Bill.
The Clinton campaign is obviously in tremendous disarray.
Will the real slick willy please stand up..
Bill, that 'legacy' you have been working so hard on since leaving office is being destroyed by your ugliness in this campaign the last couple months.
Why not. The Clintons are dinged and danged and harrassed at every turn. Wonder what would happen if any of the other candidates were treated that way. You have never ever ever heard any of the reporters confront Obama with any of the attacks, the mess he throws at the Clintons or any of the stupid things he has done. He is treated as the fair haired boy. The Clintons are treated as people to be harrassed.
Gee Bill....this was created entirely by the DNC (!!) in NV MANY MONTHS AGO, you supported it then. What's wrong with it now? Oh sorry, I forgot, the Culinary Union endorsed Obama instead of Hillary. Well, then of course, the original plan is awful, unjust...down right un-american! It must be stopped!
The level of Bill Clinton's hypocrisy is simply ASTOUNDING... and to think I used to be one of his biggest supporters. I was blind. I was wrong.
Bill, I love you and I'm voting for your wife, but please go to the Carribean and chill out for the rest of the primary season.
Awww did someone hurt wittle Billy's feewings?
Hey man you were President so you know better than anyone you take some hits on the campaign trail and if that means that some caucuses have more supporters for Candidate A than Candidate B then oh well that's life in the big leagues.
I doubt he would be this upset if the Culinary union was backing the ole ball and chain
Ahhh Bill.... are you done disgracing your legacy yet?
This was our "Greatest President" according to the Democrats...
And why does he get upset? Because for once, a reporter from the mainstream press calls him out on his attempt at defrauding voters. Goes to show that they have been giving him a free ride all along!
The media as usual is trying to cause a riff between Clinton and Obama campaigns. They stirred up the fire about race and now their trying this. Give the voters, all voters, a chance to voice their opinion and be able to choose the candidate they want. all should be treated fairly though out Nevada.
You'd think some reporters would have learned something after watching Clinton excoriate Chris Wallace, who was busy pimping for the RNC s regards OBL.
Media sticking it to the Dems or the Dems sticking it to the media. Who cares!
The Democratic Party (unless it wakes up and comes around to Edwards before it is too late) will offer the people of this country a great choice , a female LBJ or a Muslim Carter!
"I have never witnessed on any previous occasion such entire disregard of the usage of civilized warfare and the dictates of humanity." General Robert E. Lee in a report concerning Union destruction of civilian property in Virginia, 1863.
A fine bunch of loving Americans those yankees!
What kind of democracy is this? to suppress the voter? come on People. This shows me the dirty trick of Clintons Campaign.
Bill is rapidly proving himself to be a distinct liability to the Clinton campaign. He'd better cool his jets or he can give up the idea of redecorating the White House.
Bill is telling it just like it is, so what is all the fuss about? Polictics has never been for those who can't or won't assert themselves – who would respect a leader like that?
Bill you are becoming an embarassment to former presidents. Next step is to call Barack Obama a bozo like your friend George Sr. called you during the campaign in '92, then you'll really be at a new and desparate, all-time low.
CNN didn't even bother to mention the name or affiliation of the reporter. What a sloppy story.
The reporter doesn't need to sensationalize this article by adding "Clinton became visibly combative," which is just drama. He simply made a point that he feels strongly about.
It's pretty fishy that no one complained about the caucus rules until Obama got the Culinary Union's endorsement , and why is no one except the Clintons complaining? Bill needs to keep his cool...not very presidential!
Protect your daughters Americans. Bill "the mouth" Clintonian is on the loose being himself. He's combative because he's starting to fear defeat. The thought of not being first lady is too much for the guy with the biggest inferiority complex in the northeastern states. Watch closely – he's going to really mess this up for Hillary. I'm glad he's out front here so you can see what a Hillary presidency would have looked like. Anyone but Billary.
Its a caucus Bill!!! 2Million people could show up to one precinct supporting Obama, but if that precinct only has six delegates then six delegates is all that they will receive. Another one where the Teachers hang out, may have 30 people with Six delegates, again its only six delegates.
Bill needs a chill pill, he does not need to give himself a heart attack.
oh cmon CNN, he's hardly that upset. he looks agitated but he handles himself pretty well. not to mention the fact that he actually has a point. i'm sure people are going to spin this intothe clintons spiraling out of control, but if you watch there's really not that much going on here.
WHICH OF THE CLINTONS IS RUNNING TO BE PRESIDENT?
Obviously, Hilary Clinton cannot manage a national campaing without a man leading the way.
Is that what Americans want AGAIN in a President - elect someone, and have another running the country into the ground, like Chenney is not doing.
If Bill Clinton keeps up this tantrum with his run for A THIRD TERM White House run, he's surely going to have a heart attack.
Maybe bill is hoping to get a heart attack and sympathy votes? lol
I'm sure that even then the American people will not be fooled in allowing a second undermining of the US Presidency by the Clintons.
"Visibly combative"?
Did he throw a punch?
Or did he take a strong position in response to a "when did you stop beating your wife" type question.
The issue of the ad hoc caucuses needs to be adjudicated before the caucus, since if it is challenged after the caucus it could invalidate the caucuses altogether.
Win or lose, it's better to have it decided.
CNN has to be the most technologically-challenged TV channel ever. On TV you guys have sound difficulties all the time and now the video link does not work. All you have is a picture. Don't you guys do any testing before pushing things out to the public at large?
Let the fight begin, Obama supporters vs Clinton supporters Round – 2
The key phrase – "I had nothing to do with this lawsuit". How about your wife's campaign? This lawsuit would not be happening if Hillary had gotten the endorsement. The Clintonistas are lying, despicable people. WHY does anyone want them back in the WH?
Well all right Bill!
Even if it had been the Clinton Campign that started the lawsuit, it's not like if the shoe were on the other foot Oboohoo wouldnt be crying and carrying on. He'd be like a runaway train to the courthouse. Setting up polling places in Casinos to make voting easy on the casino workers makes no sense. If they do that and Obama wins, Hillary would be stupid not to take that to court. The state of Nevada should know better. Lots of people work long shifts, but they somehow manage to vote. This is pure union election staling and everyone knows it.
Since Bill Clinton was impeached and left office I have said over and over that he would be the first former president to go to jail. It's always something with this guy, he's the O.J. of the democrats.
The Culinary Union does NOT allow Republicans to vote at these casino caucuses. So if you are a Union employee AND a Republican, they will NOT let you vote. What is that about?
This Union needs to stop blaming the Clinton campaign for this. This was never about Hillary Clinton. Just because you have employees that won't support your empty suit of buzzwords you should not be allowed to intimidate them. John Edwards supporters also know the deal here. You passed him over to support Obama. Why? Does he love your lobbyists more? Or maybe because Edwards wants to up the minimum wage and adjust it yearly for inflation? Hmmmm. Not only do you not want to fairly pay your workers and support someone who wants them to receive a fair wage, you intimidate them into voting for your empty suit. What a DISGRACE.
You do not OWN your workers! Stop the intimidating and strong arming NOW!
Come on CNN....Why try to cause controversy where none is needed. That was not a heated exchange.
Ok, and Hillary wants to make Bill the ambassador who will let the world know that American is back again. Hillary doesn't have an ounce of judgment nor a teaspoon of wisdom and Bill doesn't have a grain of dignity.
THE ONLY THING I CAN STAY ABOUT A CLINTON IS THEY OR THEIR PEOPLE NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG OR UNDER HANDED,ALSO DID NOT BILL SAY AT ONE TIME EVER VOTE SHOULD COUNT. PLEASE BILL AND HIL GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I don't think he was that heated.. I think he was a bit frustrated though. Look, people voted on this thing months ago. Three of the people who are part of this lawsuit literally voted to have voting at work. The casino workers have a special need. It's a busy weekend and if anyone have been to Vegas, you know that it's a non-stop town, more so on the weekend. Because of the city, this special provision was made. It was made before the Culinary Workers Union decided to endorse a candidate. After they did, the lawsuit was filed.
The Clinton Campaign did not file this suit. I think we should all just wait for the Judge's ruling today. No one is really asking for this provision in other states caucuses, but Vegas is different, and anything we can do to make it easier for people to vote should be done.
The Clintons only want to play fair when that fairness gives THEM the upper edge!
WOW – How are we supposed to take Bill and Hill seriously when he's getting so upset that his aides have to pull him away, and she is playing "flight attendant"?
This lawsuit is CLEARLY a ploy by the Clinton camp (whether they'll admit it or not), to take votes from Obama. How VERY Karl Rove of them.
Culinary Union organizers have been working in earnest for the last week to get the word out about the union’s endorsed candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, and to lock down member support in the run-up to Saturday’s caucus.
But two Culinary members supporting Sen. Hillary Clinton say they watched today as two of those field organizers were overzealous in their efforts as they collected pledge cards for Obama in the break room of a Strip casino. The Clinton campaign quickly tried to paint the incident as part of a broader pattern, though introduced no other evidence.
After the Sun worked the story for two hours, this much is clear: What exactly happened this afternoon at Paris Las Vegas depends on whom you talk to. To hear Clinton’s campaign and her supporters tell it, the union intimidated a member into caucusing for Obama, demanding that she sign a pledge card — or face exile from the caucus.
To hear the alleged victim tell it, it was much more of a misunderstanding.
Marie Angers, a cook at Paris, and her son, Matt DeFalco, a kitchen runner at the resort, told the Sun they saw two Culinary representatives intimidate a coworker, Sylvia Antuna, by telling her that she had to support Obama if she wanted to caucus.
Both Angers and DeFalco are supporters of Clinton, whose campaign contacted the Sun about this incident separately.
On top of that, Angers and DeFalco said, the reps handed Antuna an Obama pledge card, telling her she had to sign it to participate in the caucus and that today was the deadline.
“The lady told all of us: Nobody can go to the caucus unless you’re voting for Obama,” Angers said. “They have no right to do what they did. This is America. You should be able to vote for who you feel like. It doesn’t matter who the union is endorsing. They can try to persuade us but it doesn’t mean people have to vote for them.”
But Antuna tells a different story. She said she was filling out a voter registration form when the union reps approached her about Obama. When she told them she wasn’t sure about caucusing for him, one rep took her registration form, indeed telling her that she couldn’t participate Saturday if she wasn’t supporting Obama.
At that point, Antuna said, Angers and DeFalco, who were sitting at a neighboring table, engaged the union rep in a heated discussion. Antuna said she sat silent while both sides swapped words. She doesn’t recall the bit about the pledge cards.
One key fact: The union reps spoke broken English.
“It’s possible it was a miscommunication,” Antuna said.
In fact, Antuna said the Culinary called her later to inform her the union had received her voter registration form, spoken with her supervisor and that she was clear to caucus during her shift on Saturday.
“I don’t even know what to think,” she said. “This is totally new to me. I’m just glad I can actually go and caucus.”
Antuna said she’s undecided on a candidate.
Pilar Weiss, political director of the Culinary, said she would try to find out about the incident.
“I’m not belittling it,” Weiss said. “I’m taking it seriously, and I’m going to look into It. But we’re conducting training all the time with our staff to be respectful of other opinions. We would never engage in voter intimidation.”
She said that with just a few days before the caucus, many members have become emotionally attached to Obama and other candidates, which can lead to misunderstandings and miscommunications.
“We want our members to stick together and support Obama, but our organizers are being trained to know some of our members and their families are participating for other candidates. And we want them to participate,” she said.
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Updated 8:30 p.m.:
The Culinary Union has investigated and says the source of the drama seemed to be about how one changes one’s party registration three days before the caucus.
Antuna was a registered independent, and the union reps were talking to her about how she had to be a Democrat to participate on Saturday, Weiss said.
Hardly scandalous and certainly not intimidation, she added.
Weiss said she suspects the whole incident was drummed up by the enthusiastic Clinton supporters, who got heated when the union reps started pitching Obama
Another example of the Clinton bag of dirty tricks. It's called voter supression. It's what was done against African Americans in the south before the civil rights movement. If the Culinary Union had endorsed Clinton, the teacher union wouldn't be filing this lawsuit. And, once again, slick willie is lying through his teeth.
Bill is seriously losing it. He has tried to bully and finger wag his way back into the White House. It is not working. He is upset and it shows. People want change they can believe in Bill. His behaviour is demeaning of his presidency.
GO BILLY!!!!!!!
The Obama Camp will stop at nothing to smear Hillary's name. I wish we could stick to the real issues.
The timing is a little odd I will say that.
EVEN IF....Hillary's camp has its hands in the lawsuit, the reasons are justified. I do think the timing, well is wrong.
Hillary would not be so stupid to jeapordize the latino vote......
I wonder what Obama is doing in the neighborhood, I wont say..... but I can make assumptions.
Please put a big piece of duct tape over Bubba's mouth and lock him in the attic with Rove until the elections are over!!
They are both overdue for their afternoon naps
All the changing of dates and the jockeying to be the covetted First in the Nation or the first to caucus or the first primary has turned the election process and campaigning into a three ring circus. California is busy trying to figure out how to CHANGE their voting machines! Do something about the crazy system.... it's obviously broken!!
BUT we still want to know when will Oprah be coming soon to a stadium near us??
Was that it? Geez, I thought Clinton would start yelling or flipping out. The media – you, CNN, are pushing too hard for negative articles. On the other hand, I do wish that Bill C. wasn't out all the time speaking on behalf (supposedly) for his wife.
I hadn't heard about the site or times of the NV caucuses, but it does seem unfair to hold many of them (?) during the day, making it harder for other citizens to vote. Every person has the same rights to vote, in my opinion. Culinary workers, cops, teachers, white, black, hispanic, etc etc....
CAL
This hasnt been a story on CNN all day but all of a sudden when Barack Obama receives an endorsement from patrick Leahy, now you want to put this atop the political ticker. Which baracks story wasnt placed above hillary playing on the plane even though it came afterward. The Clinton News Network is practicing some dirty politics.
I believe that the voting system in this country is fatally flawed. Delegates, just as the Electoral College, really serve to rob the majority of American people of what they actually want. Although, often times, the people in both of these electing parties will go with the candidate of their states' choice, they also have the option not cast a vote for their states' decision on a candidate. Yes, they may face possible penalties from the people (ie. not being re-elected), but the damage is still done if their decision translates into either a party nomination or a presidential win. Honestly, I wonder why this isn't reported on more often…the media tends to "over-hype" the importance of the average person's vote in the race, rather than pointing out that no matter the outcome of the race, the American people lose every time. I call the the voting process "rigged for the establishment." Our people don't choose the president, our government does.
This is the same Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, former President of the United States, who lied, under oath, a crime any common American would have been jailed for; the same Bill Clinton who tried to redefine oral sex to the American people; the same Bill Clinton who was impeached; the same Bill Clinton who approved NAFTA; the same Bill Clinton who appointed Hillary Clinton to head up a National Health Care Program, which either she forgot about, or lacked the inguenity and committment to carry through, but now in the wake of a presidental election suddenly has a plan.
I'm a democrat, and I utterly despise George Bush, but in all honesty, I think America has had enough Clintonism and Bushism to last forty lifetimes. So whatever Bill Clinton's complaint may be with any reporter, discussing any issue, I take as politically motivated for his own personal gain and political agenda.
Alright! Hillary Cries in NH, now Bill throws a tempertrantrum in NV. Gotta love the Clintons!
Too bad the rules have been set for almost a year now, and Clinton was fine with the rules when she had a huge lead in the polls. Now she's lost her lead, lost Iowa, lost support from the Culinary Union, and now the rules have to change because she isn't getting it her way.
She knows if she loses NV and SC she's in real trouble of not getting the nod.
Would someone please explain what Clinton means when he says their votes will count five times as much as the others?
Disenfranchising voters is just disgusting. The Clintons can't lie their way out of this latest political ploy. People need to wake up. We don't need more of this double talk in the White House.
Is it me, or does it seem the Clintons are turning into Rove and Cheney? Last week, Hillary warned of having a president with little experience in the White House, comparing it to the terrorist attacks in England when the new Prime Minister took over. Can we please have an election without using the fear card?
And now they are suing to supporess the vote of the Culinary Union, which, gee, just happens to be supporting Barack Obama? How about running on your own merits, then let the people decide?
Bill ... why are you so angry these days?
We need this guy back in power cuz he handles pressure so well.
The Clinton's have a pretty big deck of cards to play here. Over the past 2 week, the "Race Card", the "Gender Card" (cry on cue), the "Overzealous Supporter Card" and now the "If we can't get your endorsement we will take you to court Card", this has been in place for 10 months...wonder if it would be an issue if Hillary got their endorsement? Not!!! Somewhere, Bill has Karl Rove on speed dial getting advice on "Transforming a Loser into a Winner by any means necessary" or "I will do or say anything for a vote"
The first lady of Ar-kansas counts as experience, Photo Ops with the President counts as experience, planning Presidential Tea parties count as experience. The "Junior Senator from the State of New York" and her hubby need to hire Rush as their spin doctor and their team will be complete!!!
Will someone please make a Republican the President now, so we can lose our homes, all of our jobs can be sent overseas, build a fence and continue to turn the country over to our CEO's
Bill Clinton is ruining his legacy for his wife's campaign.
I think Bill needs to hang it up and stay out of the presidential race. He's proving that his "woman" can't do it on her own. He's getting desperate and it's ugly.
So Hilary is taking a cue from the book of George W. Bush. It's Ohio all over again but this time, we are doing it. Nice. Making it easier to vote it NOT A BAD THING!! I doubt this would have happened if Hillary got that endorsement. Booooo booooo Clinton. You should be ashamed of yourself.
*wag finger*
I did not have questionable relations with that union's leadership.
/end wage
At-large caucus sites have been on the books since May and the only thing that has changed is the endorsement for Obama.
Bill coming unglued... again. All these two, Hill/Bill, know how to do is fight. Everyone becomes their enemy – right wing conspiracy, "the boys" picking on Hillary, the media, etc.
Enough of the Clintons. Time for CHANGE!
wow, Can the media be ashamed of themselves? I wonder what they will write tommorrow.
Stop this nonsense. We may be leaving out incredible people just like Bill Clinton in our math. Can I get an article about Obama?
Seems to me that the Clintons are trying to make it harder for people to vote. I thought the Dems wanted every vote to count. I guess that is only true when they feel they have nothing to lose.
This is prototypical Clintonese. Play the victim. Wave the innocence flag. Proceed to tell the folks "I did not have sex with that woman'.
The Clinton surrogates know when to march, how to march, and what to say. It is a familiar game plan that has worked ever. Just like pro wrestling. Scream and shout, play innocent, be left for dead, then miraculously (according to script) rise from the dead and pin the opponent. Much to the applause of the crowd. A real Ringling Bros and Barnum and Bailey Circus act. As P.T. Barnum once said 'There is a sucker born every minute'. The folks who BUY the Clinton circus act are the suckers. The ever present wannabe hangers on that are wowed by the smooth talking slickster. Poor Bill. Poor man. A higher judge will rule on where he spends eternity. In this, the American people will have no say. By the way, isn't Bill Clinton on the Dubai payroll? And didn't the Saudi's contribute $10 million to his library? And you think Hilliary isn't and won't be beholding to the middle east powers? Come on.................
The proof that the crowd still loves the phony wrestler is measured by the roar of their approval. Very sad. Thankfully, most of America 'get's it' . Both the Democratic lead Congress and Hilliary Clinton have the highest negatives ever recorded among the folks.
END THE CLINTON CHARADE. ANYBODY BUT HILLIARY in 2008.
Oooh my lord help us. Billary are back here like they own our media company. Can it get better than this?
Okay, so this article makes it sound like he is howling a screetching at the "poor reporter". That isn't the impression I got at all. I read the article thinking he was going to be a jerk or yelling or something! Nope, that didn't happen. Former President Clinton remained calm and composed and answered the reporters questions with honest factual answers. Nice way to throw some sling at the Clinton Campaign. When did CNN.com turn into TMZ.com??? Beacuse most of the stories coming off this site lately are blown WAY the hell out of proportion.
And now the CNN tells you who is the boss. CNN choosing for you the candidate of their choice. You have no right. Just go vote this choice because you have no right to think for yourself. Bill and Hill will do anything plus their media tha loves them to get elected.
Nothing goes on in the media except Clinton bashing.
It's ignorant, and I'm thoroughly disgusted with it.
Why so angry and defensive Mr. Clinton? This sounds SADLY familiar PLEASE NOTE HIS FIRM STANCE "NOTHING". "I have NOTHING to do with that."
You guys remember this FIRM DEFENSIVE STANCE...."I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Sounds like he knows something that he doesnt want to talk about...i'm sure Hillary will support even if he lies again.
If they aren't going to move the caucus in every county for the convenience of certain people or unions, they need to just leave thing alone. If the people find it important to go out to caucus, they can find the time to do it without "preference" given. The former president is right. Tell those whiny cooks to do the American thing and rearrange their schedules, take time off, or simply stop pouting.
¡Puede usted entender a amigos!
The reporter was more combative than Bill Clinton. He continued to ask the former President the same question over and over and over again without listening to the response. Since when did "telling it like it is become combative?"
It is always viewed as combative when the respondent's last name is Clinton.
The Clinton's cannot stand that this is an actual competition for the citizens of the United States to decide, not the Democratic machine that they thought would hand them the White House!
Pathetic example of a hothead Bill, he's shown this side of himself several times in the last couple of months.
And now someone to tell Obama he has no say because Clintons own this network. Great Job CNN we see your through too just like Clintons!!
Hillary does not care about the democratic party. All she wants is to win.
First, she was ok with these polling places in hotels because she was expecting to get the Culinary union endorsment. Now that this union is backing Obama, she wants to change the rules.
Yes old lady, the only change you can make is the change suits your political ambition not the interest of the american people.
You claim to have spent 35 working for the people. We feign to thank you for that, now lets try someone else. Ok?
Clearly, DIRTY politics....They are trying to suppress support only recently given to their main opponent. If you believe otherwise, that theyare merly trying to "equal" things out, then why did the lawsuit only arise AFTER Obama gets the support of the union that is supposedly supposed to benefit from these cacuses....hmmm
the reason is that if Hillary would have gotten their support this lawsuit would have never been filed period.
They are a dirty cheating bunch
I really enjoyed Bill clinton as our president, but I'm all but sick of seeing him lately with regards to his wife's bid for the White House. If Hillary is running for president then she should run, but if she intends to have Bill do all her dirty work maybe she should get back in the kitchen and bake me a pie.
Why would clinton get so angry if what the reporter was saying wasn't true?
I thought unions worked together and supported each other's causes? Another example of how the Great Divider(Clintons) bring people together. I also see Bill is working on a new career as an Odds Maker if Hillary is not elected- 5 to 1 odds at the casino sound like great odds.
That's combative? This reporter must have been raised by smurfs.
Ya, and democracy at work! where did these morons do their journalism. This country is so imbalanced. I just tired of this crap. We have Edwards in the race who is not getting the same amount of coverage. They just want good candidates to die in the spotlight. CNN, you can never stop amazing me.........
By the way, isn't the $10 million that Bill Clinton received from the Saudi's for his library the same amount the Rudy Giuliani TURNED DOWN from the Saudi's after 9/11? Probably the same guy trying to BUY influence in America.
The vast, vast majority of the people heading to the Strip caucuses will be the underlings of the Culinary - dishwashers, hotel room maids, cooks, etc. - who are the least paid, and most vulnerable to intimidation. And the Culinary leadership has always used them to organize other hotels and vote for their choices.
The Culinary has full time paid organizers bringing in its masses of members working the low-paying jobs, who will HAVE to raise their hands at the caucus sites for Obama, under the watchful (and threatening) eyes of the Culinary organizers.
I hope those Strip caucus sites receive a lot of media attention because the Culinary's tactics there will resemble something out of the old Soviet Union, when people casting ballots in boxes under the eyes of Communist Party operatives had to use a special-colored ballot for the Communist Party leader, and another type of ballot to vote against him, making it obvious whom that voter was for.
It seems obvious that intimidation will be a factor in the voting process at these precincts. Voters who wish to support a candidate will have to do so in front of the watchful eyes of their union reps. These people can then either dismiss or help them with, an harassment claim, a grievance, forced overtime, unpaid labor, or dangerous working conditions etc. etc.
Democratic leaders insist workers need only show an employee badge. If they don't have one, a party spokeswoman lamely says "we'll somehow accommodate them, hence many illegal immigrants will be voting.
Many of these immigrant workers are also new citizens and have come from countries where voter intimidation is the norm. So, for them, it would also be expected. If they want to support Clinton or Edwards they will just not go, if they even feel they are able to do that and not place their jobs at risk.
People should not be caucusing where they work, unless they have secret ballots, again a central tenet of democracy. It is too open to intimidation. There is too much pressure to vote the way the boss or the union wants you to vote.
I don't think anyone can pretend these polling places would be neutral or unintimidating for those who want to support Clinton or Edwards. Plus many other groups/unions don't get this preferential treatment of setting up special caucus' for a special group, thus others are disenfranchised.
They should be shut down.
I watched the video and wonder why the authors of this article used phrase like "in a raised voice" and "led away by his aides when that isn't what happened. I also believe when you use quotes you should use the words in the same order as they were spoken.
whoever wrote this article should be fired. that's "visibly combative"???
That's an impressive amount of bad math on his part. I wasn't aware of any law, statute or ruling that allowed or recommended casino workers 5 votes to everyone else's one. Remember when he was "Slick Willy" and could deal with reporters?
If that is true, that their votes count 5 times as much as other precincts because of this...then this is a valid lawsuit!!
This is the problem with CAUCUSES; you don't get a real sense of how a state is leaning only a mixed representation!!
Also I would like to point out that if the lawsuit didn't have any merit, it would have been THROWN OUT already....so obviously there is something that needs to be addressed here, or these stories wouldn't be out because the lawsuit would be over/gone!!
"she knew nothing about it" – yet...he knew every skewed detail....other than her cult-like followers (who btw will explain away anything when it comes to teflon Hillary) – baffling group nominate her...and every Republican will vote against her...and 70% of the unaffiliated...and maybe....just maybe the Democrats who were supporting other candidates...will realize what she is...and join us in the "anyone by Hillary" campaign
Wake up America and smell the coffee. We went to war because everything seemed so real till we came to reglect everything we did. Now be fooled by Clintons and the media for what they are bringing here that is all gold and silver, believe it and reglect later. Just what I wont take. Obama has my vote and will never change my position on that!
Yet another negative CNN article about the Clintons. What ever happened to unbiased reporting?
With the entire "experienced" Bill Clinton machine working for Hillary, how can Bill Clinton say that they did not understand the rules. How many teachers work on Saturday? The rules were agreed to when Hillary was leading the polls by more than 20 points. At that time the rules were ok with them. Now all of a sudden this entire "experienced" Clinton machine didn't understand the rules.
If they didn't understand that, then what kind of people will Hillary be appointing to the Cabinet, and to the White House Staff? People that can not read and interpret what they are reading? Or, is Hillary going to read everything to her staff all the time, also?
Clinton is just mad because our caucus votes will count 5 times more than a regular vote. No one cares about what those teachers think that are suing us. This is our party now! Power of the workers will be felt on Saturday. We culinary workers run this party now and we will have higher wages to $12 when Obama becomes president.
Clinton is the past- we are the future.
All the ObamaCamp followers probably failed to read the TICKER MORNING EDITION: Thursday, January 17, 2008 06:57 AM ET
"WASHINGTON (CNN) — When is an endorsement not quite an endorsement? When it reads anything like yesterday’s tepid backing of Obama in the conservative-leaning Las Vegas Review-Journal:
“Is Barack Obama, then, the ideal Democratic candidate for president? Hardly,” it began, calling his policy proposals “old-line, welfare-state solutions that haven't spent enough time in the microwave to appear even superficially appetizing.” (ouch that has to hurt after getting the Culinary Workers backing ) And in a reprise of recent primary-season attacks on Obama’s bid, it dubbed the candidate himself “a relatively young man with relatively little of the kind of real-world experience that prepares a candidate” for major crises.
But, they concluded, “Barack Obama is, at least, likeable.” Better than the alternative, sure, but still: not a line likely to make it into his campaign ads anytime soon."
Sooo the "Democratic Party" is still picking their "most likeable" candidate? Well Kerry was certainly "Mr. Congeniality2″ – representing the NEW VOICES of the Democratic party who apparently are ~more appealing~ and can shout louder = the more upscale, more affluent, better educated, younger voters (who look down their noses at all the older generations and less fortunate) –> who are probably a lot of future Republicans, who undoubtedly aren't all that loyal to either party in the 1st place!
Meanwhile the split in the Democratic Party is growing ever wider with possibly no end in sight! The two party system is clearing no longer working in the best interests of ALL the American people anymore. It's time to divide the Democratic Party and let the NEW voices follow their new found direction and allow the Original Democratic Party to go back to standing up and speaking out for the the "disenfranchised" in our Nation – whose voices are being increasingly drowned out by the new class of voters.
Barack Obama "The Great Uniter" would have more luck reaching across the aisle to the Republicans than he will have at bridging the growing divide and bringing the Democratic Party back together again. His supporters have even managed to alienate some of the party faithful! He should seriously consider splitting the party now before the WHOLE party collapses and the GOP will sweep into the White House for the next 8 years.
Also to go along with Tim's statement, why just a sound bit of this "altercation" why no build up/end??? Media bias!?
YOU KNOW I SAW THE CLIP. CLINTON WAS NOT COMBATIVE WITH THE REPORTER. I AGREE WITH TIM CNN SHOULD BE ASHAMED. DOESN'T ANYONE UNDERSTAND IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA WRITES OR THE BLOGGERS. WE REMAIN STRONG IN OUR SUPPORT. CLINTON 08
Wow! I just watched the news clip. The "I had nothing to do with that law suit" comment will soon be remembered just like "I did not have sexual realtions with that woman".
Both Bill and Hillary seem to have very quick tempers when something doesn't go their way.
The republicans are going to capitilize on this.
In your story you claim that the lawsuit was filed by the state teacher's union and you state that it is "an organization that has backed Hillary Clinton's White House bid," though you fully know that the state teacher's union has backed no candidate. You should correct your story.
"Billary's" tactics and the Bush administration tactics are one and the same.
I hope people are really paying attention.
Can't we do better than this?
I'm an Obama fan, and yet I'm not sure Bill deserves this negative press. I didn't feel like he was getting "heated" with the reporter, he just answered the question.
As to the whole mess itself, I don't understand what Bill is talking about when he says that their votes would count 5 times as much. Can someone explain that to me, please? It does smell like Hillary's getting desperate...
I wonder what Bill Clinton's reaction would be if the Culinary Union endorsed Hillary instead of Obama. Hmm, gee I wonder.
The Clintons are masters of double standards and hypocrasy.
Someone sounds a little defensive. I have my doubts whether the Clinton campaign was actually involved in the lawsuit, but this sounds like sour grapes. Is it just me, or is Bill forgetting that he's not the one running?
"Goes off on" is a bit sensational don't you think? CNN should remember it is a news organization, not a tabloid rag.
I think that the article overstates and sensationalizes what took place. There is plenty of ACTUAL news out there without making some up.
How about some coverage of the leader in the fight for the middle class, John Edwards?
The MSM is not giving him the coverage that the other two in the Democratic race are getting!
Fair and balanced?
the wheels of of the Clinton machine are slowly falling off !! and that good for DEMOCRATS , we need to be done with this disfunctional family for GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where else has it said that the teacher's union has backed Clinton? Nowhere, because they have not endorsed Clinton. This misinformed reporting is once again showing the bias by most media against anything Clinton. It seems that no matter what occurs and whether they are involved or not, Hillary or Bill will get negative coverage and you can just about bet on that. Can you try and not manufacture things please just to somehow push another anti Clinton pro Obama viewpoint! Why is the Obama campaign not getting scrutinized in the aspect that since he has the culinary endorsement that his support should count for more than the support of other Nevadans who are not culinary workers? There are two viewpoints to this yet we all know which one will be taken. It is getting pitiful.
just when you see things this way, just know Obama has it in Nevada. Can not wait to vote for him here in VA. Go Obama!
Bill Clinton is the most unpresidential former president I've ever seen.
Wow Bill, a bit defensive there aren't you? Also, not quite sure how one vote equals five...
I have been a staunch supporter of the Clintons since my teenage years, when I used to volunteer in Bill Clinton's White House... And I have a confession to make... I will not support Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and, based on the way she has run her campaign, I would have a hard time supporting her candidacy in the general election. The Clinton machine reminds me of the tactics I see from Karl Rove: Unsubstantiated personal attacks at every turn; the use of surrogates and supporters to do their dirty work; twisting words around to play the victim; lies; and most frightening, voter suppression. I find it appalling that Hillary Clinton stands idly by while her supporters in the Nevada teachers' union seek to rob thousands of poor, minority voters and women of their right to vote, or at least make it more difficult for them to do so. We used to be the party of inclusion, of getting out the vote, of expanding the polity to the ends of America. Now, Bill Clinton is out there playing bad-cop, defending those who would disenfranchise thousands of hispanic voters so that HIllary doesn't have to say a word. The fact is, she could put an end to this frivolous lawsuit right now. But she won't. And why? Because it just might help her win. That's the logic that has driven her campaign. And it's the logic you see in her daily press soundbytes attacking Sen. Obama. They used to be the best of colleagues. Now, you see her campaign dragging a man through the mud whose record is perhaps as clean as we have ever seen in politics. I mean, the Clintons, desperate to find some dirt to annihilate her adversaries, dug up a Kindergarten essay Obama wrote saying he might one day want to be president. I mean, who didn't want to be president in Kindergarten. It's the Clintons in life who destroy our 'false hopes.' But if the Clintons proceed to crucify Sen. Obama as they have so diligently done in these past few weeks, the Democratic party may have a dilemma on its hands that not even Bill can diffuse. Because to have a candidate of Obama's historic and unifying background lose in a presidential race is one thing, but to have him lose this way is simply unaccepptable to the thousands of Americans who have been inspired by his message.
It's amazing how the media is ready to rip apart any little event that occurs concerning the Clintons. Its a shame that things like this are being allowed to happen, and then the Clintons are being held to task over things which they have no contol. I just hope the American public doesn't continue to buy in to Obama's empty rhetoric.
Bill Clinton is right for putting that reporter on the spot. The media has been biased against the Clintons, and it is getting to be sickening to watch the media try to take over the minds of the American people. Obama is getting a free ride in the media arena. If the media wasn’t giving Obama a free ride, this race would not be close because Obama clearly can’t beat Hillary on the issues. Denial will get us nowhere. The Obama campaign is responsible for most of the negativity yet the Clintons get the blame. The Clintons are often accused for things that they didn’t even do. The media personalities on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, who comment on Hillary often accentuate and broaden anything negative towards Hillary and minimize anything positive. Hillary can’t do anything that the media won’t over scrutinize. They are in her grill like dental floss.
You can always tell when a media personality does not like a candidate. For example: Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper are not biased. I think that Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper are the fairest television anchors in the business, especially Wolf. I watch them because they don’t play the hate-Hillary card. Chris Mathews on MSNBC is biased in favor of Barack Obama and is not a reliable source in my opinion. Forget about the Hillary hating Fox News because Fox News anchors have to hate Hillary because with Hillary comes the end of the right wing ideology. All of the anchors, except for Colmes and Greta Van Susteren, are biased against Hillary. Lou Dobbs doesn’t want any Democrat in the White House, but he does have an issue that irks him, and I don’t find him biased, even though I don’t think he likes Hillary as he should. Jack Caferty simply does not want Bill and Hill in the White House and will go all out in favor of Obama or Edwards.
I wish the media would stop throwing Obama a bone and let him battle Hillary on the issues. The media resumed with the nonsense after Hillary clearly beat Obama and Edwards in the last debate in Nevada. I wish the media was not biased against Hillary because if they weren’t, America would choose her without hesitation.
It's amazing how the media is ready to rip apart any little event that occurs concerning the Clintons. Its a shame that things like this are being allowed to happen, and then the Clintons are being held to task over things which they have no contol. I just hope the American public doesn't continue to buy in to Obama's empty rhetoric.
but perhaps i should say "no clinton for prez this time"? this is a disgusting display of force by the clintons. bad move, bad politics, bad taste. and yeah CNN, you do cover the clintons way too much!
I agree please stop being bais CNN. PLEASE HIGHLIGHT OTHER CANDIDATES
Please we are tired of this clintons. Bill is unashamedly reducing himself day by day. A man of his stature has become so self seeking. And he is becoming mean and brutish. What happened to Bubba. PLEASE BARACK OBAMA IS MORE MATURE. WE WANT MORE ARTICLES ON OBAMA.
So, where was the raised voice? Where were the aides pulling him away? This isn't a very accurate reporting...
Way to go Bill, I myself am so tired of the news media getting into everyone face like they run this nation....they act like the BUSH administration "it is my way or no way"...if you do say something they either intentially leave out part of it or misquote what is said.
CNN should be ashamed of sensationalizing this encounter. The headline on the homepage is "Bill Clinton Goes Off on Reporter." Goes off??? He didn't raise his voice or become visibly angry. Maybe "Clinton Challenges Report." The media makes a mountain out of a molehill again.
What an arrogant, pompous jerk! That's one way to win a debate...just talk over everyone else, don't engage in a dialogue. Then make up a number, say ....5...and preempt the conversation with that so your opponent will spend time trying to refute five and miss the bigger point at hand. Then, go on the personal attack and tell them to just get on their little tv station and tell people that the mortgage crisis is more important than exercising the privilege to vote in a democracy.
This technique will move the conversation away from what's really the meat of the issue on to some insignificant point. Non-sequitir at its finest.
I find giving exceptions to voters is odd. Everyone is going to demand a special dispensation site until a point is reached where ballots are hand delivered to their home and picked up by schedule. Get a clue...... suck up the cost of a stamp and Vote ABSENTEE, you can't get anymore personal than that. Some people are such a bunch of complainers, even if they did get a special delivery and pick up, they would grouse about the quality of the paper and the font used.
I really don't understand what Bill Clinton was saying. It kind of didn't make sense to me.
Media has played into people's emotions, changed the minds of viewers and have manipulated the thoughts and directions of the Democratic votes. It is a shame that people can be convinced to vote for another party through the persuasion of the media. I say cut off all media outlets, allow voters to vote fairly and stop running the election through media. Hey, proven fact that NH didn't allow the media to change their votes.
Why would someone vote for something they didn't understand..... ahhh that's because that's what they do that in Congress...duh.
First – why is the reporter asking Bill Clinton that question, he's not running for anything.
Second – why is Bill Clinton answering that question, he's not running for anything.
The candidate is Hillary Clinton, last time I checked.
Please NEVADA REMEMBER THIS IS FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT TRIED TO DEFINE WHAT "IS" IS !! I have watched, over the years, as this valley politically divided its latino culture. However, let me speak to the latinos. Apparently they didnt stay in their history classes and apparently many of their friends and family members did not either. Farm Workers Union! If it was not for this union forming for latinos back in the day, many latinos of the western US would be picking produce for 1$ an hour and would never be allowed to work construction at the fair wages they received during the last decades. Wake up politicos. Do your homework, check the history, the Obama organization goes authentically back to this country's original farm workers that rose to fight oppression and exclusion for latinos. As a direct result of the sacrifices those farm workers and organizers, many latino politicos have thus benefited. However, here we are, years later, and we have one candidate who has worked from the bottom up, walked the streets for children and unions, and continues to spread the message of unity and harmony as a people and a single country of united states. May I remind you latinos, Mexico has NEVER accomplished this which is the primary reason you came and live in the US . And now that you have come here and have made money and have supported your families, you finally decide to go against the unions? The very same unions who fought for your parents rights back in history? Are you locos? Tienen enfermas? Ruben(POLITICO BACKING CLINTON), good luck with your career, you would be making chips and guacamole if it wasn't for Cesar Chavez and those farm workers. Not sure how you wake up in the morning and look at yourself. I sure hope the latinos dont forget that no matter how much they hang out with a white lady, it doesnt change their skin. Without education, the 'status quo' will always see you as an illegal "aliens" and the only way to earn respect is going to be by uniting against a familiar opponent, dressed in expensive clothes, selling the past 25 years as her resume for success and accomplishment, and promising exactly what to you as latinos? Mas del mismo!!! Por favor, hablan con sus abuelos. Ellos saben y recuerden el movemiento de Chavez. Donde esta su respeto para nos historia? Puro chips and guacamole, cual personas latinos lo usan comida cuando estan hablando para sus derechos? Locos, puros locos. Ya! Ya! Ya! No hay pedo. Cuando viene el 19, vamos a ver donde esta el corazon del los latinos politicos. En uno vestida o con nostros? Tu sabes y solamente tu!!! Para nos hijos, U N I T E !
OBAMA 08!
President Clinton was right, its been going on all over the media accusing the Clintons of filing the lawsuit when its totally untrue.
It is also UNFAIR for other voters in Nevada when its 50 to 1 for them while Culinay union members are 5 to 1. Fair is fair.
I can understand the outrage of President Clinton, they've been accused of so many things printed all over the media that are untrue. We know now the race issue was brought by Obama supporters and campaigners; but the media blamed Senator Clinton.
The media must stop making their own spin, they must learn to report things as is, an informative news not a tabloid.
As an independent voter leaning towards Obama, I've change my mind when I read this news from another newspaper. I was quite appalled by this, if Obama himself didn't say anything about this issue, it tells me something loud and clear; he's ready to break any rules or ignore any rules provided he's the beneficiary. There are rules and regulations to be followed for primary election, if they can't be followed, then we as a society that makes our own rules as we go.
I don't blame the teachers union in filing a lawsuit against Culinary Union. RULES ARE RULES, they MUST be FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER.
ahh yes, typical Clinton fashion. Man, I hate those crooks.
Move on Bill. Had the culinary union endorsed Hillary this would not be an issue. This is sour grapes at best. The people are moving from your camp, now establishment Senators are backing Obama. Change is coming, and change is not a campaign slogan Hillary just adapted. It is a new style, a fresh breathe. That fresh breathe would be a nice break from your revolving door white house ... Bush, Clinton, Bush Clinton ... Can this please end.
I find that the more heated and angry a denial is, the more likely it is that the accusation is actually true.
It is not about you Bill, it is about Obama vs. Hillary. I would not see anything good about you with Obama around.
He definately has my vote!
Republicans have a history of suppressing Democratic voters. One only has to look at the history of discarded votes, scrubbed voter lists, misdirection, ballot designs and complaints of intimidation in Florida and Ohio in past elections.
Now the Clinton camp is trying to suppress Democratic voters as well.
Why in the world would we NOT want to help people vote? Isn't this America? If they're concerned that casinos are being unfairly advantaged, why not advocate that EVERYONE working on Saturday should be provided opportunities to caucus?
Answer: because Hillary's supporters are big-corporation types, and they all have Saturday off, so don't need any help.
The Clinton's don't care about equal rights; they're more than happy to suppress the vote of laborers in order to achieve victory.
Just like Republicans.
I agree with you EC houston. The clinton news network is beyond bias and its getting ridiculous.There really is no difference between the clinton news network and fox news.
Am I the only person who thinks only VERIFIABLE AMERICAN CITIZENS should be allowed to vote?
If this article is true, then I support the suit, because it would be unfair for the causes to hold in these casinos just so that their employees can find it easier to caucus.
If that is the case, then I demand that a pooling station be installed in my home so I can just wake up in the morning and vote before going to work.
Fair is fair, and if this law suit is dismissed, and Obama wins, I will not count his win as anything, because it would be seen as rigged.
By the way, I am undecided voter.
Mimi
It is indeed disturbing that CNN continues to provide air time to such a well documented hate monger, coniving womenizer and liar like Bill Clinton. Who's running for the democratic nomination anyway? Can we get some real news!!!!!
It is embarassing and almost feels as though CNN continues to introduce a rapist into everyone womens home by the continual press coverage that this slime ball gets.
ENOUGH!!!!!
What? OK so I read the article and it sounded bad, really bad. Then I watched the clip, how very anticlimactic. I saw nothing wrong with that clip. In fact I agree with at least part of what Bill was trying to get across. I want the media to start asking the candidates about the issues...not about the fight. I want to know where they stand on important issues that will affect my family. I do not want to see another article about who said what about him and who said what about her. Tell me what they said about the war in Iraq, about the economy, about the off shoring of our middle class jobs, about reforming or completely overhauling the insurance industry, about regaining America's respect abroad. Puulleeeze stop reporting on this election like a 2 bit celebrity rag, act like a respected news organization.
I love it! It's hard to get the truth out there, but it happens sometime. Oh, by the way Alex and Rebecca, it's President Bill Clinton, not Bill Clinton, or have you forgotten how to properly refer to a former President? And E.C. of Houston, we Americans just love it when people like you make so much sense!
If this is all Bill did, it's pretty lame that it's news.
C'mon CNN. "Bill Clinton goes off on reporter." "Bill Clinton lashes out."
Must everything be sensationalized? Reading these headlines I expected something tense and heated, swear words perhaps. What I saw was Bill Clinton taking issue with a reporter's question in a slightly pointed tone.
Do you think we won't read the story or watch the video unless you make it seem like a earth-shattering story?
Let the news speak for itself and stop fanning the flames of divisive politics.
God, is Clinton the only Democrat with some cajones? Kudos to Bill!
Clinton has nothing to do with it? Maybe if he would have stopped Bin Laden when he had the chance, and he did have the chance, then there would have been no war, the issues across the globe would have been friendlier, and the economy would be stronger. Oh he had something to do with it alright.
I wonder if the Clintons would be saying the same thing if the Culinary Workers' Union had endorsed Hillary instead of Obama?
I think not!
Gotta love the fire from Bubba.
This lawsuit certainly is news though. Everyone involved got together and agreed on the rules for the caucus. At this time HRC and supporters beleived they would get the Culinary Workers' Union endorsement. Two days after the endorsement went to Obama, the suit is filed, including by HRC supporting teachers' union.
The suit is obviously politically motivated with the intentions of hurting Obama and helping Clinton. Dirty politics on the HRC side. Bill should be addressing the issues and concerns of those workers, not trying to silence their voices.
THE
CLINTON NEWS NETWORK
IS THE MOST BIASED
NEWS ORGANIZATION ON THE PLANET
CAN WE
PLEASE GET ANOTHER STORY
OTHER THAN
THE CLINTONS
THIS IS RIDICULOUS
I love how he says over and over their votes will be worth five times as much. Maybe because those caucuses will be five times larger than the ones outside Vegas?
...we didn't have anything to do with this lawsuit! . . . and remember, i did not have sex with "that woman"!
of course, if the culinary workers had supported the clintons there wouldn't be a lawsuit . . . please somebody tell me we are not looking at more dysfunctional clinton white house years. i'm beginning to have bad dreams.
clintons, just keep showing your true colors. edwards, get out of the way. go obama.
There are stories about all the candidates here. If you don't want to read anything about the Clintons, you are free to make that choice.
I would actually rather be reading about Bob Wexler and his path toward impeaching Cheney. But I bet this never sees the light of day, because anytime I post on impeachment, it is deleted.
I'm in the military, and the quagmire is actually the result of increasing terrorism of the 90's. Finally, somone with leadership decided it was time that we can't live ina world like that. Guess what, no attackes here since 9/11? Coincidence? Don't think so.
Attacks (Quagmires) In the 1990's:
American Embassy x 2
World Trade Center (1993)
USS Cole
The Rise Of Al Queada
etc. etc.
What did clinton do? Absolutely nothing but sit back and have affairs with women when the country needed him most. Wonder how Hillary feels being fourths?
I bet he wouldn't complain about the ease of voting for the workers if their Union was supporting Hillary. He's become a bit ridiculous. Hopefully an Obama victory will happen and take the Clinton's out of the public light for a while.
I guess it depends on what the definition of is....is.
This is the behavior we can expect with a Clinton Presidency. Unbelievable arrogance. Please think this through before you vote.
I agree with the other two comments here. I don't think that we should be concentrating as much on the Clintons. Let them sink into oblivian. Why don't we concentrate our time and effort on those candidates that could actually lead the country. While I don't agree with Obama on all of the issues, I do know that he would make a MUCH better president than Hillary.
It's a fact, Hillary will not and CANNOT win this war without Bill. People who vote for her either 1) just want to see a woman for president and will do anything it takes with no regards as to how capable she is to lead (I have nothing against a woman president, but Hillary!??!) or 2) They think they're voting Bill back into office.
Talk about the blind leading the blind. Quite fooling yourselves folks.
Boohoo....next article please...
The reporter was right to ask about this, although Bill may be right tha the Clintons had nothing to do with it.
You can argue the validity of the lawsuit, but the TIMING is suspicious.
All involved, including the teachers union, agreed to this caucus set-up almost a full year ago and had full knowledge of it. AND the teachers are the ones who pushed for the caucus to be on a Saturday so that more of them could participate.
The fact that they filed this lawsuit 8 days before the caucus and immidiately following the culinary union endorsement of Obama is VERY suspicious.
If they thought this was really about giving an unfair amount of leverage to casino workers...
1 – Why did the teachers agree to it in the first place?
2 – Why didn't they file the lawsuit months ago when the decision was first made to set up these at-large caucus locations?
I haven't seen anybody who is defending the lawsuit as credible answer those questions.
And the possibility of voter supression IS news worthy, especially in light of the 2000/2004 election cycles...
So can Clinton tell us why a casino vote is five times a regular vote? .....this is insanity!
Oh, cry me a river, HRC camp! You know Obama will beat you in Nevada!
Yuck!
Hillary suggested there be a contest to name the role Bill might play in her administration. How about "Scolder-in-Chief", or "Trash-talker-in-Chief"? In his years, we had her ranting about a "Vast right-wing conspiracy" and lashing out at his critics. So now, they just want to trade roles? And this is the "experience" we are supposed to hope for? I for one do not wish to "experience" this kind of polarizing, defensive, divisive behavior any longer. I'll vote for ANYONE but this couple again.
Yuck.
Obama mafia is at work in this case.
E.C of Houston – Texas – its the other way round... see other ticker comments... we should ask how much is the opposition paying CNN to show anti-Clinton news all the time... yes, CNN is biased, but the other way round...
The dispute between this reporter was later revealed just to be hype for the upcoming "Clinton vs. everyone that wants some" heavyweight title bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas immediately following the Nevada caucus.
I find it amazing that a larger story about this lawsuit is not on all the major news and given more than just a passing comment. This is huge. I can't believe that the media and the American people are ignorant enough to believe that if Hillary had received the Union endorsement that this lawsuit would have been brought forward. This is the kind of stuff we can't deal with for another four years. The Clintons bring controversion and division, even if I did vote for him twice – I would never vote for Hillary because of what it put our nation through as a whole. I agree wtih Tim, can we get a good article that finally corrects Obama's record about the Iraq War and how he did not support it in 2004. I continue to see that parroted by all the major "news" (sic) men and women.
I'm sorry but I'm so glad Mr. Clinton isn't running for anything.
I absolutely love it when somebody thinks they are being smart and ask him a question forgetting he no longer is a 'politician' where politician means sucking up to anybody with a camera and a microphone.
Now if the commenters above whant more coverage for their candidates (BTW I won't vote for Hillary in SC) show them this video and tell them this is how to handle idiots trying to sell advertising on their TV stations.
The Clinton's have become even sicker with their sick obsession with gaining power at any cost. I have lost all respect for both of them now. Now they are trying to stop minority voters from getting to the polls, on Martin Luther King's holiday yet. Amazing! Did the voting rights act mean nothing to them? They are not Democrats they are the worst of politicians. Will they stop at nothing to seize power!
Had Bill followed the U.S. government office ethics for former presidents, he would not have got himself into this mess of his own creation.
Bill is not a regular Joe. He is a former president of the United States of America, which he is trying very hard to throw it all away as he intends to appear as the president for the third and fourth term.
Ron Paul supports no taxes on service tips such as restaurant workers.
Ron Paul supports legalization of prostitution.
Why does Bill treat the culinary workers only one fifth as important as teachers?
I am a teacher myself, but we are no better as a person or worker.
Teachers' Unions are the strongest union in the country with lots of rotten apples.
Is Hillary for change? She thinks she knows it all and she knows what's best for you. She will stall our democracy and the spread of global democracy for countries like Russia, Pakistan, Venezuela and Burma.
There should be laws against Bill's outrageous behavior as a former president.
A Constitution Amendment to limit terms for a couple is needed. Our forefathers did not expect women's voting rights and independence in the 1700's.
If you let a couple stay in the White House for too long, they think they own it and the furniture inside, and worse, you.
President Clinton has over an 80% positive rating within the democrates. He was a great president and he will make a great first husband in the White House. I am glad someone puts the media in their place. Personally, I am sick and tired of the stupid comments made about the Clintons in the media, by the pundits and people on these blogs.
There are so many angery and hateful remarks. I have to wonder if people really think that they are getting some where with these remarks. Personally, I think that the person writing them needs to get a life and quit putting others down to make themselves feel better.
In the end, Hillary will get the votes from Michigan, and the nomination. Obama will be her vice president and we can all be pleased.
I understand Bill's frustration and anger about having so much blamed on him and Hillary. Much of the finger pointing at the Clintons about this lawsuit have come from the Obama campaign. The Clintons had nothing to do with the lawsuit. Enough is enough! The press needs to be fair and balanced with all of the candidates.
Clinton is right on the mark. You in the media create controversy at every turn. Most of us have little to no respect for the media anymore. You invent news these days and CNN is a leader in fake news about fake issues.
Bill did it right, as the rerporter wanted to make wave or create news.
A stupid question deserve a rude answer.
For someone who had "nothing to do with the lawsuit", he sure is defensive.
Well done Bill at least you have some b-lls!
I hear Barack Obama wants to bring everyone together then why did he do the opposite last week with playing the race card.
Please comment on that CNN.
You call that a 'lashing'? Guess the news reporters have a daily quota of harassing the Clinton's so they come up with this. Lou Dobbs is the only person on CNN worth watching. Christ – these news reporters are shameful.
The Clintons are so dirty. I wonder where Rove learned all of his tricks. Let's get on with this election and stop allowing the Clintons to deprive the voters of a decent, dignified election.
I would hardly call that "lashing out." And I wouldn't describe that as Clinton "raising his voice."
I'm an Obama supporter, but I find it insulting that any time a politician (especially the Clintons, lately) get passionate about a subject, they're accused of lashing out, of having a meltdown, or of reacting disproportionately.
There's enough drama to be found in the disagreements among the nominees. CNN shouldn't turn the tone of a run for President into Hilton/Spears-esque tabloid jounalism.
I watched this video just now. Bill did not raises his voice one bit. I'm hanging on to the election in every way, but I am really so sick and tired of journalists in the media creating and fabricating that which isn't. You are all becoming or have been ridiculous, only I wasn't as aware previously, as I wasn't much into politics.
Bill Clinton was annoyed at this reporter...but his voice was not raised a bit.
What a picture. Mayor of Oakland shown with old Bill – I guess that is to make us folks in Oakland for Clinton – Give me a Break. Americans are so smart, you cannot do a photo opt and expect us to believe you are real.
Do you really think Bill has done any civil rights activities during the beginnings of MLK, marching, the sit ins, riots, etc. I had never heard of Bill before he ran for President I am a product of the "real civil rights efforts, I was hosed, I was bitten, pushed, etc. I never saw or heard of Bill Clinton being involved.
I have relatives in Arkansas and they were and still, in some places in Arkansas, are treating african americans with "slave" mentality. So please Bill just because you like the blues and Aretha Frankin – that does not make you or Hillary a champion of black folks or any folks OK. So America let us not be fooled by all this "talk" that is all it is go for what you know as fact not what is being presented and presented by CNN
Good for you, Bill. Stick to your integrity and thank you for being protective of your wife. Whether she is running for President or not, the truth is always best.
I will never vote for Hillary Clinton, but what Bill Clinton is saying is true. It's an unfair advantage for the union. Votes are being taken away from districts and being consolidated in a special privileged group that is NOT a district. It also consoliates control of the caucus votes, and there has been reports of the Culinary Worker's Union leadership in the state using tactics of intimidation to force workers to threaten their ability to actually caucus if they do not commit to Obama. That is a violation of the law and is anti-American. It's allowing a union to control a vote, and to have the power and privacy to steal the rights of individuals
Consider this, would you like to have your boss or a manager standing over your shoulder monitering who you vote for? Because the workers are feeling afraid of the union attacking their right to work if they do not vote as the union wants them to. I am not anti-union either, I belong to a union. This whole thing is a fraud and should be stopped. The NEA is right to sue, I think the American people should collectively bring a lawsuit to invalidate the results of such a primary if it was tainted as it is clearly being, because it impacts all our rights and the vote.
I was leaning to voting for Obama, but will never vote for him now. I had my questions based on his record, but this clinches it for me. I'm voting for Edwards now.
Every time CNN gives Bill Clinton 10 paragraphs to spout his opinions, you should also give Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Edwards an equal amount of space to voice theirs. I would much prefer to hear from honest, moral spouses...not someone who wagged his finger at me as he lied, then lied again under oath. It's beyond me why anyone would care what Bill Clinton says in his increasingly desperate attempt to spend eight more years in the White House.
This further proves that you can't ask these people a simple question without this perjured, disbarred ADMITTED LIAR pointing his fat little finger at you.
You are not allowed to ask the King and "Queen" any questions.
Did Mrs. Edwards or Mrs. Obama do or say anthing today or this week?
This serial adulterer deserves no more FREE PRESS than any of the other candidates spouses, but this also shows that she could not get elected dog catcher without his help or name.
And "arun", Chris Wallace asked him a valid question and "Slick wily" overreacted, but that's what these "people" do when asked anything other than a planted or softball question.
They get accusatory, but that's what trash does.
I respect Obama and his classy wife more everyday.
This article is boring and inflammory. If something like this was wrote about Obama's wife, E.C., you would be going through the roof. Seriously.
Has Bill privately asked God (and received) forgiveness. I believe there's some story in that Bible about two guys praying; one on display for everyone and the other very privately. I think the guy in back was heard first!
You are right. I am not privy to Clinton's requests for forgiveness. I guess I don't think he has changed his ways and therefore hasn't truly been remorseful.
Isnt it amazing Bill Clinton can act like this with no class and say what he wants and the left calls Bush every name in the book and defends Clinton????? THE LEFT ARE COWARDS AND HYPOCRITS.....
By the way...after this Bush/Chaney administration, Hillary looks like God's father.....please, enough with how bad our nominees are....there will never ever ever be one perfect president of these United States. The president is much of who he or she surrounds him or herself, in the cabinet, etc. No president chosen will ever topple the congress, so why smear every single nominee out there, Republican OR Democrat. Any elected president will give his or her very best.....ans we will all have to settle on just that. The US cannot get much worse than it is, unless we head into a full depression or end up in a nuclear war with Iran some day.
I don't see what the problem is with former President Bill Clinton because when you stop and think about it he is completely right.
Bill Clinton is merely standing up for what is right. I agree with him 100% on this issue. The news media, however, will not report the facts. It's as if the facts don't matter.
Al Gore was correct when he said the reporting of the news changed dramatically when it became "for profit". What a sad state we are in when we cannot trust the news media to be one of our biggest checks on government. Instead, we can count on the news media to bring us emotionally charged stories that have nothing to do with current issues being debated in the halls of Congress.
So much for a free press. It is now bought and paid for, too.
Clinton's teachers' union filing a lawsuit against their own democratic party?
Trying to restrict minorities from voting?
That's what's unconstitutional. Shame on you Senator Clinton
Is this really news? Bill Clinton whining about yet another issue were he believes this is a personal attack on his "good" character. Give me a break. Instead of answering the question in a civil manner, he's got to lash out and take it as a blow to the Clinton's good name. Sounds a lot like Mitt Romney if you ask me.
Hillary Clinton this... Bill Clinton that... all day, everyday! Sickening! Enough with the Bush's and the Clinton's... CNN and other news outlets are contributing to killing democracy in this country.
Instead of focusing on getting the Republicans OUT, which should be any sensible person in the United States goal at this point, and discussing the issues and presenting those to the American people, the politicians are acting like, what else POLY TIC ians. They all need to snap out of it and ban together. They can intellectually and politically debate their differences of opinion and educate the American people about who they are as candidates and encourage us to vote for them, but arguing about whether or not people should be able to vote at the casino or not is CRAZY and distracting. To be perfectly honest, if eitehr Obama, Edwards or Clinton wins, it would be 30000% better then the ameoba we have now, and ANY Republican that could follow.
Instead of moving the polling places to the casinos, why don't they just leave the voting poles open longer or I am sure the Governor or Mayor or someone could authorize a one time 24 hour campaign. Say you have from 7:00 am to 7:00 am to cast your vote. I mean we are talking about Vegas. It is not like any of them are going to end their shift at the casinos and go home and go to sleep. ( I have been there many times, no one sleeps, beds in hotels are useless) It is every citizens right to vote if they are registered, so if the culinary workers have to work during the regular voting hours and are unable to go to a voting booth, then if they have 24 hours to vote, or if they leave the poles open a few more hours into the night, they will end their shift at some time and be able to vote at the normal polling place. RIGHT?
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world finally saw the real Bill Clinton. The man who has the best relations with the Bushs. The man who calls Obama revolution a fairytale. The man who lures black votes by lying to the minorities. The man who is he biggest liar and manipulator. The man who brought moral disgrace to US Presidency.
To hell with the Clintons!
These Clintons are slimey.
When the ex president said , " I had nothing to do with that lawsuit." I would have responded, right, and you also said, "I did not have sex with that woman." While I am not a registered Republican , I consider myself a moderate centrist, I do not trust either of the Clintons.
I will say it again folks. In the Las Vegas debate, Hillary cited her 35 years of experience 6 times! I counted.
All I want is for her to detail her 35 years of experience.
This means something because, 1) she said it. 2) she claims that Obama has no experience.
This is race against who and who?
Does anyone moderate these comments? Why is the shouting rant in all caps by EC,Houston, Texas permitted? As the Clinton-haters have mouthed off, I will counter their rants with a thank you to President Bill Clinton, and President-to-be Hillary Rodham Clinton. Thank you for giving your all to this country. And, when unfairness and trickery take place, yes, I want to see you condemn it. If the Culinary workers of Nevada decide that state's caucus results, then all Nevadans will be cheated and denied their state's voice.
All my life I voted Democratic closing my eyes. After what I saw in New Hampshire, I can never vote for the Democrats. That is if Obama is not going to be the nod for the party.
How can you say Bill "lashed out" at a reporter. He merely stated the facts. The Teachers Union filed the lawsuit, no one's vote should count but once and all things should be equal. It is America we live in right? Not CNN ville.
It does not matter who wins this Primary. It does not matter who wins this election. The battle is on against the American dynasties – the Clintons and Bushs that take money from the oligarchs, special interests, use party apparatus, brainwash extreme parts of their parties and deliver the goodies to the rich and powerful corpartions and families of America.
wake up America!
He may not have "went off", but he did get heated...and attempted to spin.
Nobody's debating the validity of the lawsuit – it's the timing of the whole thing that reeks of politics. It's fine to have a debate about how much a precinct show be worth, by why would you wait until one week before the caucus to do it when the decision on the sites was made and announced in AUGUST? The obvious answer is that Hillary didn't get the Culinary's endorsement, and now she's trying to block them from supporting Obama.
The Clintons get so angry when they get embarrassed...
Look at bill Clinton’s NAFTA. Look at Al Gore’s hypocrisy. Look at the audacity of tax cut for the rich y Bush. Look at them closely, you will find no difference.
I am voting Obama!
....So do you honestly think the bumbling idiot in charge now has never once consulted or confided in his Daddy. With your argument, maybe we need a Constitutional Amendment to ban any relative of a former President from ever running. That's absurd. And if you were really honest with yourselves you admit that the Clinton years were the best we'd seen in a long time. Personal scandals aside, he ran the country well. I don't care what the CEO of my company does in his personal life as long as he continues to steer my company on the right direction. In the past, the media protected the office of the Presidency and the general public would have never know about a President's private indiscretions. But in the age of celebrity, even our election has been turned into a Brittany Spears like news story.
People need to understand that Bill missed the White House a lot along with the "goodies" (i.e., great and young interns) that go with it. This time, he will be less busy with the affairs of the nation and more with the "affairs" of ... So, let the Democrats keep getting them back to the White House. America "loves" sensational headlines, as much as we openly try to speak against it, otherwise no one would even be looking at Hillary today!!!
Frankly, no one truly believes that Hillary will restore integrity to this nation, revive the economy, pull the people together and so on. This is 2008/9, not 1900's folks!
The tone of article as well the headline itself is visibly anti-Clinton as well as most of the comments here. Putting on group of voter in disadvantaged cituation of another is a form of disenfranchising and I'd rather to see it address in court BEFORE election than afterwards.
, but I could see that small incremental changes bring about albeit very gradually, the real change while broad overreaching never fails to fail and cause backlash and decades of setbacks for the cause of fair and just yet free and open society.
In general it is very disturbing to see how manipulative our media is. They think of themselves as king makers and us a commodity to sell do the highest bidder. There is no substance in the coverage. No real policy debate, no balance in coverage. There is more attack coming from Obama camp, yet Clintons are blamed for negativity. It is amazing how similar those "new young agent of change" and old uncompromising vicious ideologs of the past are. We are society of laws. And it is one thing to lead a movement to change some unjust laws as an outsider, and very different is a process of actually changing them as prescribed by the Constitution. It is always a balancing act with comprices and deals. This is by design to provide stability and make change very gradual, and protect the country against dangerous and often misleading populism. I am life-long Democratic voter (no I am not that old – 36 at then moment
Clinton is a disgraced.. he is so arrogant and thinks knows more than anybody- He thinks he can get away with anything because he is a former President. He always the first to yell and attack other people: journalist, candidates and even bystanders. The funny part is that, does not know how to stop
This man lies from the time he wakes up til the time goes to bed- All they say is a lie. But they lie so good that they make it looks like they are the victims . They then create a campaign incident for free publicity where they play the victime so people focus not on what they say but on the incident- And always the medi fall in the trap and media give them free press they want.
I still don't understand why a former president is campaigning for anyone. It has never been done before and isn't it the norm that former presidents keep out of politics? Okay, it's his wife, but still...
All I saw was someone reaction to an accusation. Jose, get real.
this is really starting to get annoying. Has Hillary and Bill Clinton become the new Brittany Spears and Kev Fed? Stop treating this as if it were a tabloid. "Clinton broke down in tears today" when her voice cracks a little. "Clinton starts race debate" when all she said was LBJ helped push the Civil Rights Act and "Clinton Wins New Hampshire because of maternal instinct to vote for women". Have some decency. I write for a college newspaper opinion article and I dont use such foolish language, even in expressing opinion.
Oh, and as Jon Stewart got it, the Gloves have been off for a long time, so stop constantly reporting the gloves are off already!
January 8, 2007 will be remembered by many people. It is the start of a war against career politicians. It is the end of lies of Bill Clinton and George Bush. It is the start of a new ‘hope’ –‘Yes We can!’ – ‘Yes we the people of USA are united!’
Obama for President!
Bill is flat out wrong
you go bill
politicians need to be tough, outspoken and bring the important issues to the press.
You know, the other candidates don't have a spouse that can fight their battles for them. I'm sick of seeing Bill Clinton fighting every battle for Hillary. He did it in New Hampshire and he will continue to do it. Both of these people will DO ANYTHING and smear anyone to gain power. HILL DOES NOT EQUAL BILL!! We are NOT voting for Bill Clinton! The faster people realize that, the faster they'll join with one of the other, more viable candidates: Edwards or Obama.
Did you just claim that John Edwards was the only candidate qualified for the presidency? It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant or gullible people can be when trusting presidential candidates. It would have been a perfectly accurate statement to claim that no candidate in this election is qualified for the position. Frankly the only candidate (regardless of whether you agree with him) that has been candid during this entire sham has been Ron Paul, but seeing as how we American's have an affinity for complacency, laze, and constantly sit in a general state of malaise, I doubt anyone will come to this realization.
‘Yes we can do’ – the America under Obama revolution......Doesn't stop there!
Everytime I look at ex-president Clinton I feel his nose will get longer. This guy thinks he's the God of the world and will fix everything. Through corruption, twist of his stories, and lies is his style. Never have any trust on the two of them in regards to our safety, or health care, or more jobs. All they know is raise taxes and steal it.
Misleading headline from the alleged "librul" media. I have to laugh whenever I hear the righties use that term. The Clintons have been bashed more than Shrub ever has and he deserves it SO much more.
As long as the major media outlets are corporate owned, we'll have to listen to them openly bash anyone on the left. Too bad the majority of Americans no longer think for themselves and take this stuff at face value. Scary, scary times we live in.
The Teachers Union is protesting this as a surrogate for Hilary Clinton. If the Culinary workers union had endorsed Hilary it would not be an issue. Everybody knows that including Bill Clinton. Committing intellectual suicide for a political party is not a sign of intelligence.
How many other unions in Nevada are protesting this. This is Nevada. The main industry is the casinos. This is not a small number of people that are affected here. The details were approved of months ago. There is not one teacher who won't be able to attend a caucus on a Saturday. They don't work on Saturday. Who works on Saturday's?. Casino workers. They deserve to have a say.
You want to be the party of inclusion, be the party of inclusion.
The real Clinton's are coming out! Do we really want them leading the free world for another 8 years?????
Go Obama Go!
GOOOOOOOOOO Clintons
USA and the World need you
long live clintons
hmmm, actually do think he sounds defensive, but more to the point – he's claiming (repeatedly) that the location of these caucuses means some votes count five times – a remarkable claim that he doesn't support with any evidence at all...at least not in this short clip...
Bill Clinton is merely upset right now, because he fears most heavily that his wife may lose the Democratic nomination to Senator Barack Obama. As a result, he's simply taking out his frustrations on reporters. Pretty sad and shameful to say the least. We should not be moving towards a dynasty with the Clintons and Bushes of the world. Jesus knows, it's time for someone fresh and new, who can really create serious and positive change for all of us, and not send our kids off to unnecessary foreign wars to die over oil.
Bill, you ROCK!
Recalling Bill Clinton's Greatest Shame
It has been 9 years since Bill Clinton sold out poor women and children in return for a little political capital with the Republicans. I haven't forgotten. I haven't forgiven. I still have stories from the aftermath of welfare reform, stories that I collected for years after he signed the welfare reform bill.
They are stories about children who died because their mom was doing important work at Pizza Hut or Burger King instead of doing the seemingly unimportant work of caring for children. They are stories about moms who were forced to report to low wage jobs even when adequate or safe childcare was unavailable.
The number one assumption of the welfare reform law (other than that single moms are the scum of the earth) is that caring for children is NOT work. People who do it full time are lazy and deserve your contempt.
People who do it are almost always women.
It was an interesting time to study our culture. Under the guise of classism, misogyny was free to rear its hideous head. Day after day, the Great Welfare Reform Debate raged on the front pages of all the newspapers. All the experts weighed in. They wrote books. They condemned the women as lazy welfare queens who lived a life of leisure. They said outrageous things like 'wherever single mothers live you will find crime and drugs.'
The experts were almost always male. They were people who have never ever been charged with the 24/7 responsibilty of keeping children alive and well. They were people who defined 'work' as something you do for money. In every analysis that counted, any job that paid a wage was deemed of far more value than the work of caring for children.
After that debate, it is a wonder that there is a woman alive in this country who is brave or foolish enough to be a stay at home mom.
This post at Our Word, a very cool feminist blog, is responsible for bringing back my memories of Bill Clinton's greatest shame:
Being eager to help his wife win, Bill is destroying his own legancy. We see the sides of Bill that we did not see before. Maybe there will be more to come.
I am not supporting any one, but I get the feeling that the media does not want to see Mrs.Clinton as the President. Any thing small about is published so much on the news. Media should not be the one to decide who should be the president. Please stop being biased and let the people decide.
Frankly, I had no idea that a caucus held in the casinos would carry 5 times the weightage of those that are held in the precincts.
I don't recall any of the stations, including CNN, as having thrown more light on this aspect. Did they ? If so, then I missed it.
Obviously if they have glossed over this fact, then I think they should be taken to task for it. Good that Bill "went off" and forced them to drop their sensationalism for a bit and focus on the real issues.
Is this what we want to see for the next 4-8 years? This guy was great when he was president, but with time and success he has turned into a pompous, arrogant jerk. He attacks anything that somehow bothers him. Even George W is not this much of a blowhard. This is old politics. Time for a new day in this country.
WHO DOES HE MEAN BY THEM AND THEY, IS HE TALKING ABOUT US HISPANICS AND LATINOS IS HE DID HE JUST MADE A BIG MISTAKE
Hey Jose,
I hope whoever gets elected does stop this nonsense of spreading our brand of government to the world. Who gave us the power to do such a thing?
We can't even agree on our own terms here, how can we expect other countries to follow suit?
Shoving democracy down other people's throats is not democracy at all, and it's led to nothing but conflict, war and resentment against our country for decades.
Rus- how can a clip support whether or not a vote counts five times more in a specific location??? That's what the lawsuit is about. How can a clip or a person (Bill Clinton) support that claim? It's impossible, do you have any idea what you are talking about? That is why people file lawsuits.....hence the court will determine if the lawsuit has any merit.
Bill Clinton is an arrogant hypocrite who would do and say anything to get what what he wants. He is also developing the irritating habit of getting angry and defensive at anyone who dares question his and Hillary's entitlement to eight more years in the White House, sticking his finger in peoples' faces and lecturing them as though they were disobedient children. I had no problem with Bill Clinton during his presidency – in fact I voted for him twice – but as this campaign continues I have come increasingly to wish he would just go away.
concerned in iowa :
"The real Clinton's are coming out! Do we really want them leading the free world for another 8 years?????"
Way more than we need Oboohoo to be running it. He's just a democratic version of G.W. Bush – all arrogance no substance.
CNN using the word "combative" to describe the exchange between Bill Clinton adn the rerporter is more consistent with Fox reporting then CNN. President Clinton was calling him out on a pointed question. This was in no way, "combative."
Bill's right. I'm from Florida – land of the uncounted vote. Believe me, I am sensitive to this issue. EVERY person in Nevada should be up in arms.
Bill Clinton himself was the president who made empathy and personality his trump card. Now, for the past weekend I just find it troubling when he characterised Obama as a dreamer and Hillary as President. Now that is so much troubling and even If I wanted to go and vote for, I will either stay at home or vote republican!
It seems that this is what the majority of democrats want. Four to eight more years of devisive and angry politics this time from the Bill and Hillary Clinton show! Haven't we all had enough of this! If you truly want something different vote for Barak Obama.If you cannot find it in your self to vote for an African-American then at least vote for John Edwards.
To all you Clinton bashers :
Compare 1992-2000 period for this country with 2000-2008. Compare surplus with deficits, compare peace with war, compare job-growth with unemployment, compare intelligence with..
I work on the week end and would love an opportunity to vote at my workplace.
I am not a casino worker, so I guess I don't count!
This lawsuit is one based on merit and should be carefully considered.
If only a select group of minority voters are being targeted, how fair is that?
I suppose if you're a firefighter, in law enforcement or hospital worker you're out of luck because there is no 'at large' precinct at the fire station, police station or hospital!
When you disenfrancise some voters, you do a disservice to this country so, make more 'at large' prescincts so we can all exercise our choice or don't have any!
I do not care who's behind this lawsuit, the reality is that it places more value on a group of individuals while excluding others!
That does not sound or look like the United States of America!
A shout out for the citizens who brought forward this important issue!
The Clinton campaign really needs to have President Clinton keep a low profile. It's like whenever he turns up, there's a problem and he makes the campaign look foolish.
The worst part is that he's really losing that stature of a former President. He just seems so petty and small compared to Presidents Bush II & Bush I right now.
As a long time Hillary supporter in Georgia, I'm now fed up and shifting toward Edwards or Obama. Great job!
I am very disappointed in the Clintons. They talk nice and offer olive branches while starting racial campaign spats and trying to suppress democracy in order to win.
I agree with the previous posters; I think this was a very reasonable, though intense, response.
Let me ask CNN, "is your definition of 'going off' not raising your voice and restating the someone else's position, which they didn't appear to disagree with? Is that really your definition?"
I thought President Clinton handled himself very well. I hate it when reporters take something so minor and insignificant and blow it WAY OUT of proportion (much like the fairy tale comment). The reporter asked him a confrontational question and he received a confrontational response. To say that Clinton has disgraced himself throughout the course of this campaign is simply inaccurate and ridiculous.
way to go, Bill... you really put Ron Burgundy in his place there, didn't you?... pathetic.
Hillary you are the light that con make USA and the world a better place
GO HILLARY.
Bill and Hillary have angered Many and it's sickening to see them continue to do do each and everyday. Very sickening to see what is happening again in My country. The gap of devide is wide opening each and everyday with these people around. This is no different to what George W. Bush had done to this country.
We need a uniter not a devider!
Goooooooooooo Obama, we have your back!
Jose Card, I support Obama over Clinton and agree with your notion that Hillary is Bill's proxy for a 3rd and 4th term, but I have to respectfully say that your argument is mistaken.
Term limits weren't set on the presidency until after FDR, which was well after women's rights and certainly not in the 1700s. The founding fathers had decided not to impose term limits (actually, Alexander Hamilton wanted Presidents and Senators to serve for life terms).
That being said, I agree that this type of political manuevering is bad, but then again look at John Adams and John Quincy Adams. Clearly one's familial connections were considered at the time. The Bushes were a bad example of that purposeful omission...the Clintons might be another....if Hillary was electable!
The problem here is that, as with the fairy tale rant, he's not telling the whole story. The "vote counting 5 times" bit is a clear exaggeration, as the original television report attests. And, as others have noted, the Clinton campaign helped set up this plan back in March 2007.
To E.C. Houston – I could not agree with y ou more about CNN being for the Clinton's. I too am sick and tired of seeing the favouritism from a lot of the media towards the Clinton's but especially CNN.
To CNN: I used to love your program but if you keep this up I will definitely turn you off.
It is time for the Clinton's to retire and let someone run this country who can do a good job. Obama has what it takes.
Hillary – you are an Iron Lady and would run overtop of everyone you can if you ever get into the White House again. The horror stories about you are just too many and to awful. Good-bye Clinton's
Why is CNN disecting every move Bill and Hillary Clinton and Britney Spears makes, yet is giving Huckabee a free ride?
The man want to rewrite the constitution. Are you paying attention?
Why is nobody focusing on what the REAL power struggle probably is here? I.E, the power struggle between the Teacher's Union and the Culinary Union.
I don't know Nevada politics-but I'd be willing to bet these 2 groups have a history of going head-to-head against each other. All thse p.o.s. rporters expending all this energy to stir up drama stories, but no reporter has bothered to outline the history between these 2 unions? Is that where the real story lies??
Bill Clinton is trying to sound defensive to deny any connection to the lawsuit. We all must remember, my fellow Americans, Bill a lawyer by profession. How dumb do Hillary and Bill take the people of Nevada to be?
FACT 1: The Cuminary Union's plan was endorsed by the Nevada Democratic Party back in March 2007.
FACT 2: The Democratic National Committee ratified the plan back in August 2007.
FACT 3: The lawsuit was filed within two days after the Cuminary Union's endorsement of Obama.
This whole lawsuit is a waste of time and money. It better not be a waste of taxpayer money!!!!!
OBAMA in '08!
Obama – do you think double standards apply to him? Does his history ties in hate groups not wake people up?
I have been trying to learn more about the facts and history behind this lawsuit. It seems important – why is it not getting more coverage in the news?
Does anyone understand what he is talking about when he says the vote would count 5 times as much? I'm not following.
Richmond, Va.: Is it just me, or is Bill Clinton getting a bit too much into this race? Here's how I see it: Obama is pretty much having to take on both Hillary, the candidate, and Bill, the candidate's husband - it seems like a bit of overload. The question then becomes, is Bill really supposed to be doing this or Hillary? How is Obama supposed to stay afloat all this mud?
In this clip, Bill Clinton simply stated the facts as they are so I am kind of taken aback by the headline... who came up with that one anyhow? The casino workers should not receive "preferential treatment" in Nevada or anywhere else. I am going to make the assumption that maybe there are more than a few Native American casino's located in other states where the same rules would need to be applied for their employees since they are open 24/7 as well. If the caucuses are allowed in the Nevada casinos then a precedent will be set for other states down the line. Does anyone else realize the fact that the delegate count will fall to Hillary regardless of the results from Iowa, South Carolina, Nevada and maybe a few other states? Florida, New York and California will be the true measuring stick so all the Obama-Heads need to get a grip, jump on the Clinton ship and get used to calling their man the V(i)P!
Nice headline CNN! It always a joy to see the media put a slant on the news. It is obvious that the reporter asked an accusatory question and from the video it is obvious that Bill Clinton defended himself from the accusation. I see nothing wrong with that.
You must be a politically correct moderator because you won't put the comments about the facts on Obama but will slam others...
So when Obama does it its ok? He was getting heated, he was just getting tired of people blaming them. Wake America!! Hillary 08!
Bill Clinton is a master politician. However, I don't think he has figured out yet how to campaign for someone other than himself.
I feel like I'm watching an ex-president implode before my very eyes.
This is all so strange...
I am supporting RON PAUL for president, but I must comment about this.
Did everyone here watch the video and read the report above? It says that the TEACHERS UNION filed the lawsuit. NOT THE CLINTONS.
This is why Bill got annoyed. He did not raise his voice, he just strongly voiced his opinion of this when asked.
I don't get all the hate for the Clintons on this thread in this particular story.
Could someone explain it to me?
I am guaranteed at least 2 or 3 good laughs from the Clintons everyday.
Obama – double standards?
Obama con be a good first grade teacher NOt a leader of the world.
Go HIllary.
How about Bill Clinton gets off the campaign trail and lets the little lady do her own campaigning...I mean, after all, HE doesn't want another term, and HE certainly wiould have NO influence over her decisions in the White House.....and hey, I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.......
Wait to go Mr. Clinton. Standing up to the media, accusing you of doing something wrong, and which you had nothing to do with, is absolutely the correct thing to do. I admire your tenacity on what you believe to be correct!
First it was in Moderation, then you deleted it. Why?
No profanity, and it did not violate any rules.
The vast majority of the people heading to the Strip caucuses will be the underlings of the Culinary - dishwashers, hotel room maids, cooks, etc. - who are the least paid, and most vulnerable to intimidation. And the Culinary leadership has always used them to organize other hotels and vote for their choices.
The Culinary has full time paid organizers bringing in its masses of members working the low-paying jobs, who will HAVE to raise their hands at the caucus sites for Obama, under the watchful (and threatening) eyes of the Culinary organizers.
I hope those Strip caucus sites receive a lot of media attention because the Culinary's tactics there will resemble something out of the old Soviet Union, when people casting ballots in boxes under the eyes of Communist Party operatives had to use a special-colored ballot for the Communist Party leader, and another type of ballot to vote against him, making it obvious whom that voter was for.
It seems obvious that intimidation will be a factor in the voting process at these precincts. Voters who wish to support a candidate will have to do so in front of the watchful eyes of their union reps. These people can then either dismiss or help them with, an harassment claim, a grievance, forced overtime, unpaid labor, or dangerous working conditions etc. etc.
Democratic leaders insist workers need only show an employee badge. If they don't have one, a party spokeswoman lamely says "we'll somehow accommodate them, hence many illegal immigrants will be voting.
Many of these immigrant workers are also new citizens and have come from countries where voter intimidation is the norm. So, for them, it would also be expected. If they want to support Clinton or Edwards they will just not go, if they even feel they are able to do that and not place their jobs at risk.
People should not be caucusing where they work, unless they have secret ballots, again a central tenet of democracy. It is too open to intimidation. There is too much pressure to vote the way the boss or the union wants you to vote.
I don't think anyone can pretend these polling places would be neutral or unintimidating for those who want to support Clinton or Edwards. Plus many other groups/unions don't get this preferential treatment of setting up special caucus' for a special group, thus others are disenfranchised.
They should be shut down. A primary with ballots should be conducted.
To marge Hibbing – start reading and make sure you know what you are talking about before you speak. The reason the press doesn't go after Obama is because they don't have nothing negative to go after him for. Believe me, if they did, they would. Obama could have really come out blasting the Clinton campaign on a number of things they have done but he is not going to fall into their habitual nasty ways.
He is in this race for Presidency because he knows he can bring some good back to this country. For too many years the rich old white boys club have run this country and it is time for a refreshing change.
Oh – by the way, I am a 58 year young caucasian woman.
Go Obama Go
Team Clinton speaks with one voice, thinks with one brain and acts for one purpose and that is to get the Clintons back into the White House.
I don't care whom you support this does not pass the gut check.
The voice of the people is the strength of America!
Whoa... calmn down Billy! Can we get some of those animal control guys with the tranquillizer darts in here!
Bill Clinton, you are a joke. Now you claim democrats are stupid. The democrats understood what they were doing last year when they AGREED to it. But now, since they did not endorse your wife(one of your many women), democrats didn't KNOW what they were doing. Get a life Mr. President! Remember it is democrats you are seeking support to get your wife elected, and I am sure they do not like being call ignorant.
i like the point made by Al in wpg-
most times elections and things of that nature are held in schools... no problem with that, right?
but now that they are held in a casino, and that is a problem?
how ugly and transparent can the Clintons be? i'm really disheartened by pretty much ALL the candidates, democrat and republican.
shame on you all.
Clintons is a househood of shame!
So this is what the "preacher" does – this most honest and forthright Democratic wanna be president. No, I'm not talking about Bill Clinton, I'm talking about Mr. Obama. This was rather cute, nicely coordinated trick on his part to change the rules to include a particular group of voters, and disenfranchise others who just happen to have a different schedule. And he believes this is a fair and honest move. It would have been a done deal had not the Teacher's Union come forward. What a disgrace, and he espouses being above dirty politics.
I applaud Bill Clinton and his intelligent response to the reporter. Its high time someone with some credibility and backbone stands up to incidents like this. Of course Obama backers and the media would like to make it a Bill/Obama situation, but its going to backfire on Obama, and if the court doesn't see its intentions, then everyone should start marching on the streets. He who calls himself such a clean politician had better talk to his campaign handlers and start rewrite his tent-camp projections. Does his "change" theme mean that whenever you can find someone crooked enough to find a loophole like this, you "change" the rules? Go Hilary – and thank you Bill.
This to me smells like a republican trick to keep a certain voting block from being able to express the constitutional right. I am so disappointed in the Clintons and it is obvious to me that they see the numbers and are afraid that Obama is going to win another caucus! If Hillary would have gotten the endorsement, Barack Obama would not be doing this he would want to win fair and square because he knows that his message will carry him throught because it is the best and people connect with him. Hil Girl, you are something else!!!!!!!!! I will never vote for the Clintons, I have learned so many things about them that I don't support.!!!!
The real title of this should be "Clintons file lawsuit to try to steal Nevada."
Why is this headline "Bill goes off" and not "reporter makes false accusation"? Seems like Bill knew the score and the reporter was trying to make himself the story. That is supposed to be poor ethics in the reporting trade.
Clintons made the campaign filthy... Anyone else, but Hillary for 2008....
I don't care how angry he is at anybody's "accusatory" tone. The fact remans that culinary and other casino workers cannot caucus unless they can do so at their worksites, and casino workers represent a large segment of the Nevada population. Why should they be disenfranchised?
Yes, some people who don't work in casinos and can't get to their home precincts won't be able to caucus, but the many fewer such folks (i.e., who would otherwise lose their vote) will be affected if the work site caucuses are permitted. We should not disenfranchise all such workers because we can't help all of them - particularly when the proposed solution would help most of them.
Also, I would let Bill and Hillary know that many people - including my Democratic relatives in Florida - think that Hillary's campaign went south after the Iowa loss. My cousin has already voted early, by paper ballot. for Obama. She's an independent.
Beware the game-playing (weeping, stirring up phony race issues, having surrogates file law suits), because it is counter-productive.
There is nothing this man won't do. He is immune to shame. Move past all the nice posturing and get really down in there in him, you find absolutely nothing . . . nothing but an appetite."
UHHHH? Why do they wait until the day after the union announces its endorsement? What a bunch of unprincipled hacks. Bill Clinton. Whew. I hate that dude.
That didn't sound very heated to me. It sounded like a knowledgable/experienced person firmly setting the record straight. Something a good leader does. It will be great to have the Clintons back in the White House.
The votes should not count five times as much!!
I liked Bill Clinton, I thought he was a pretty good President. Didn't get too exicited about Hillary running but waited to see her platform. Now I think after the last few weeks the Clinton campaign is fractured and becoming transparent and it looks like just another politician saying and doing anything to get elected and getting pretty nasty and whiny doing it. Very disappointing, but I guess it's better to find out now than after the election!
Would someone enlighten me please, how can a vote count five times, maybe more?
Hey folks. LIfe long Democrat, retired military veteran...and observer of the current quagmire between Obama and Clinton and the lobby groups and special interest groups supporting them........
Here's another reason to vote for John Edwards!!!
He doesn't "collect" loyalty money from "any" lobby group or special interest group.
Wouldn't it be great to run a campaign, a congress, and for sure–a Presidency without having all the key issues greyed out by the special interests.
Yep, he's a little scruffy...and very committed to his ideals.
But after all, isn't that what we're looking for?
My fellow DEM's do we really want change...or do we just want a more "user friendly" version of typical Washington politics?
Let's really end the stagnation of ideas in Washington–and send them a President whose PRIME INITIATIVE is to represent us.
I believed in and spoke out in support of Bill Clinton thoughout his eight years as President. I believe he was the right man at the right time for this country. But, now I am concerned that his overzealous remarks in defense of Hillary are more of a payback to her for her standing by him during the worst years. I'd go as far as to say they probably made a special pact between themselves that when she ran for office he would use all his available resources to get her elected. I certainly don't fault him for that; but, please Bill . . . Hillary is no Bill Clinton. And now, there is another man, the right man at the right time to fill the office of President for the United States of America.
He is campaigning for his wife, just like the other candidates spouses. Simply because he was a former president should not exclude him this right. Say what you want, but he is a smart man and what he said makes sense.
I know there are many people who are upset at the Clintons for Hillary’s running for president. In my book it only elevates my respect for them. They both knew they would be taking on some very harsh critics. They are pioneers in this new arena and many people don’t believe they should be here. Neither of them came from some political dynasty of a family. They chartered new ground with Bill’s presidency and they are doing the same now with her candidacy. Hate them if you like, but don’t deny what they are doing is both brave and ground breaking.
Im sorry, but I dont see it :-/. Im looking at the video and I do not see where Bill is combative or where he raised his voice. Its crazy how the media chooses their words. Is Clinton being combative, defensive, or is he just enlightening the reporter. Bill keeps a consistent tone with the reporter, he is not combative, and he does not frown or raise his voice. As a matter of fact, he raised a very interesting point. The Culinary union new exactly what they were doing by endorsing Obama, giving Obama an unfair advantage. I hope the Teachers Union win their case.
Hey CNN, how about mentioning that the Democrats also require ID for these caucuses, something they are opposed to for general elections. Is the Democratic primary in Nevada more important to secure than the election of the next President?
Notice in this picture how Clinton is draping himself with blacks in an attempt to unring the bell Hillary rang and try to convince the black voter that they should vote for them. I hope every African-American voter jumps off the good ship Hillary and gives their vote to Obama.
I'll bet real money that if it were the other way around, teachers' union backing Obama and the culinary union backing Hillary, Bill would be singing a very different tune.
The vast majority of the people heading to the Strip caucuses will be the underlings of the Culinary - dishwashers, hotel room maids, cooks, etc. - who are the least paid, and most vulnerable to intimidation. And the Culinary leadership has always used them to organize other hotels and vote for their choices.
The Culinary has full time paid organizers bringing in its masses of members working the low-paying jobs, who will HAVE to raise their hands at the caucus sites for Obama, under the watchful (and threatening) eyes of the Culinary organizers.
I hope those Strip caucus sites receive a lot of media attention because the Culinary's tactics there will resemble something out of the old Soviet Union, when people casting ballots in boxes under the eyes of Communist Party operatives had to use a special-colored ballot for the Communist Party leader, and another type of ballot to vote against him, making it obvious whom that voter was for.
It seems obvious that intimidation will be a factor in the voting process at these precincts. Voters who wish to support a candidate will have to do so in front of the watchful eyes of their union reps. These people can then either dismiss or help them with, an harassment claim, a grievance, forced overtime, unpaid labor, or dangerous working conditions etc. etc.
Democratic leaders insist workers need only show an employee badge. If they don't have one, a party spokeswoman lamely says "we'll somehow accommodate them, hence many illegal immigrants will be voting.
Many of these immigrant workers are also new citizens and have come from countries where voter intimidation is the norm. So, for them, it would also be expected. If they want to support Clinton or Edwards they will just not go, if they even feel they are able to do that and not place their jobs at risk.
People should not be caucusing where they work, unless they have secret ballots, again a central tenet of democracy. It is too open to intimidation. There is too much pressure to vote the way the boss or the union wants you to vote.
I don't think anyone can pretend these polling places would be neutral or unintimidating for those who want to support Clinton or Edwards. Plus many other groups/unions don't get this preferential treatment of setting up special caucus' for a special group, thus others are disenfranchised.
They should be shut down.
Why are these reporters pose a accusatory questions to Clintons only? He has merely explained his position which is magnified by CNN story. First of all these endorsements by the unions either to Hillary and Obama should stop. Who are these union leaders to decide to endorse a particular candidate. Let the members decide which one to vote. Secondly, there is something wrong in the caucus system. Why not everyone from the state go to the polling booth and vote any time of the day? These caucuses all in the strip naturally is an undue advantage to Hillary and Edwards as most of the voters belong to Culinary union and under pressure from their bosses they are bound to vote to Obama when everyone is together. Whereas, if the same people vote in their neighborhood they are under no pressure. This is absolutely wrong to have the caucus centers near their work places.
How Bill Clinton Helped Boost CEO Pay
A law he championed to curb compensation has backfired - and pay packages have exploded
Clinton's brainstorm: Use the tax code to curb excessive pay. Companies at the time were allowed to deduct all compensation to top executives. Clinton wanted to permit companies to write off amounts over $1 million only if executives hit specified performance goals. He called Crystal for his thoughts. "Utterly stupid," the consultant says he told the future President.
THE SHAME GAME
Now, 13 years after Clinton's plan became law, the results are clear: It didn't work. Over the law's first decade, average compensation for chief executives at companies in Standard & Poor's 500-stock index soared from $3.7 million to $9.1 million, according to a 2005 Harvard Law School study. The law contains so many obvious loopholes, says Crystal, that "in 10 minutes even Forrest Gump could think up five ways around it."
From the Internal Revenue Service to corporate boardrooms, Clinton's remedy has become the biggest inside joke in the long history of efforts to rein in executive pay. It has allowed companies to take deductions for executive pay tied to goals as vague as "individual achievement of personal commitments" (BellSouth Corp.(BLS ) or improving "customer satisfaction" (Dell Inc. (DELL )). Energy giant AES Corp. (AES ) for a time demanded that its top people maintain a workplace that was "fun."
Get well informed people!
Keep going Bill! Tomorrow you should get in a fist fight about it!
Exaggerating the differential treatment of at-large precincts is a good start, but you can do much better.
Mr. Clinton was absolutely right!!!
Beat them up Bill, they deserve the pain.
There are a lot of people really mad with the Clintons. It is because of all this back and forth I cannot vote early here in Florida. I am truly one of the "undecided" and I do not know on the 29th of January if I will be ready to vote for any of them. I am hoping to make up my mind, but I think I will have to miss about 12 news cycles to do it.
i bet the reporter deserved every bit of insult, knowing how self-serving the so-called (corporate) news media have been. GIVE THem HELL, BILL! They are no good for humanity!
this guy is trying to obstruct justice again! lets get this issue out in the open. Obama hasnt been treated unfirly by the press because he has not given them reason to, period.
I think it's strange how all these Barack Hussein supporters trash the Clintons so much.
Let's look at what obama has done for the world, his state, the country...nothing. He didn't want his voting record to be used against him so he voted, "Present".
The Clintons have done more for the United States and the World then ANY candidate other than McCain.
He didn't seem angry or upset to me. The article made it like he was screaming at the guy. The media is just looking for a story. I swear it's like they want Clinton to lose.
If you don't think the Clinton's are up to this lawsuit from behind the scene, I have some land for sale in Florida that I'd like to sell you.
Wake up people, this is Classic Clinton and exactly why our country deserves a President with Integrity!
Obama or Romney!
Nothing goes on in the media (and this board) except Clinton bashing.
It's ignorant, and I'm thoroughly disgusted with it.
This is a real turn-off to decent people out here like me.
I am glad I am not that hateful!
Billy boy doesn't really get heated with the reporter. He just talks down to him in a lovely patronizing tone. I thought the reporter handled it well. He just let Willy drone on and on while the camera kept rolling.
Seeing Bill Clinton's manner with this reporter and with many others during the election campaign has reinforced my opinion that we have had enough Bushes and Clintons.
Is this what we can expect from Hillary?
After all, her "35 years of experience" are from her association with Almighty Bill, right?
ABH (Anyone But Hillary)
From a nonpartisan point of view... that really counts as getting heated with a reporter? I thought his tone and his take on the issue were eminently reasonable, even if I don't agree with him. After the way CNN completely misled me with the headline, I was figuring on seeing some real fireworks. Well, that's the hype machine for you.
Clinton's claim that these votes will somehow count "five times more" than any other votes in Nevada is misleading at best and a downright lie at worst. There's no likely scenario AT ALL where this could be the case. There would have to be absolutely EPIC turnout in rural Nevada and utterly DISMAL turnout in Las Vegas itself for this to come even close to true. On top of that, his claim that both the State and National Democratic parties didn't know a year ago that this was how it was going to work is a complete fabrication. C'mon Bill, you're not even in office anymore, why lie to us?
The Ghost of NAFTA looms large and the W.T.O
I think that it's very irresponsible and typical of people to get on here and rant and rave about Bill's response. Very typical in the fact that you didn't hear the whole discussion. You just heard what that media outlet or CNN wanted you to hear.
The ignorance that's created by people allowing the media to dictate your thoughts is very alarming. You just let the media spoon feed it to you and it's disgraceful. Wake up America!!!
I agree totally with Bill Clinton. Many people will have to work at Wal-Mart on Saturday and they will not be able to caucus in Wal-Marts. As usual, Sen. Obama gets a free ride and every word that the Clintons say is picked apart by the anti-Clinton press. Senator Obama is not qualified to be president and the Republicans know it. Republicans want him to be the nominee.
Bill Clinton was a very lucky man when Bush followed him into the White House. Bush is so bad that it made Clinton look good. I do not want another Bush or Clinton again. We really need a change..
If the media had gone after Bush as much as they do with the Clintons, when he stole the elections and fabricated his WMD lie, we would not be in this mess.
Combative is a very serious word.....be more cautious. I saw this and he was firm, always is and why be surprised he would say what he did....my goodness, anything to show some negative re the Clintons...another example of non-objective reporting.
As for counting five more time....if five time more people vote because they can step a few feet away while at work...are they paid for this time?....and people working in other jobs in LV cannot get away from work....well...do the math.
Anyone who believes that the Clinton campaign is not behind this lawsuit are completely naive PERIOD
Come on Clinton supporters, Rove learned his deceitful art from the first Clinton Administration.
GO Billy Boy, Get them..
I am so tired of whining Republicans claiming how moral they are yet, they got child sex predators under their wing. They know that they are all baby predators yet the keep them for money making.
I'm begining no I have lost all "Respect" for Bill. In this campaign he has really showed his true color.......
I don't about you, but I find it very disturbing that interest groups in the democratic party are trying to disenfranchise voters by suing to keep them from voting. Especially, when those parties agreed on the rules since March.I guess they absolutely were sure Hillary was going to roll over Obama when they draw up the caucus rules. Now that she's being challenged, they want to revise the scheme.Hilarious, indeed!
Imagine republicans pulling the same tricks? The Dems would be livid and marching all over the place. Where's the outrage now?
Blacks and Latinos would insane to vote the Clintons back in the White House!
Bill Clinton said. "I had nothing to do with this lawsuit" He forgot that he is not running but his wife. But we all know that this about Bill getting back in the white. We love Bubba, but just will not let us move on. Thanks to Bill Hillary if she gets the democratic nomination will unit the pothetic Replublicans and it will be 12 to 16 years of replublican, leading to decline of American influence and economic standing in the World and possible another war were young men sacrifice life limbs.
IT IS NOT FAIR TO EASE THE CAUSE FOR THE CASINO WORKERS ONLY. THAT'S NOT EQUAL TEATMENT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WOULD HAVE TO VOTE IN IOWA IF THE CAUCUS BOLLOT CAN BE MOVED AT THEIR WORK PLACE. PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS STATED. FAIR TREATMENT FOR THE ALL STATE. THE PLOBLEM IS NOT ABOUT THE CULINARY ENDORSES OBAMA. AND I AGREE ALSO THAT THE MEDIA WILL HAVE THEIR FOOT IN THEIR MOUTH AGAIN LIKE IN NH. IF THOSE CASINO WORKERS ARE REALLY SUPPORTING OBAMA THEY HAVE TO GO TO CAUSE LIKE EVERY BODY ELSE BUT NOT AT WORK PLACE. MICHIGAN PROVED THEY DEFIED WHEATHER TO GO TO VOTE EVEN THOSE THEY KNEW THAT NO DELRGATES WILL BE AWARDED. THAT'S WHAT I CALL HAVING A STRONG SUPPORTERS. THE PROCESS IS UNFAIR THAT'S WHAT IS REEL. HILLARY OR BILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT .
the public's approval rating for the corporate mass media must be below 10%, i bet. that's why they never publish a poll about themselves. weasles....
This incident just proves what all of us have thought for a long time: if you have the gall to question the Clintons, you are in trouble. The lawsuit may not be the Clinton's idea, but it certainly merits questioning as to the motives. Oh, and as for the votes counting five times? That's the logic of a man hellbent on getting back into power through his wife. Just do us all a favor Bill, and focus on presenting the case as to why your wife should be president, not how everyone is out to get you and Hill.
I agree CNN and all other news company... Put more Obama on these tickers and the news... Maybe everyone can see its not only Hillary that is on the attacks.. Wake up people... Obama and Edwards have been attacking Clinton since day 1 but thats ok coz its Hillary right?... You guys who said she's negative all the time are hypocrites.. you only hear what you want to hear...
And instead of putting this ticker on, why dont you CNN, explain what is Bill talking about? Maybe there is some truth in what he is saying about the 5 times worth of votes... that is real news that i want to hear.. how these votes and the rules of voting changes the outcome
And stop it with the bashing of the Clintons... we Clinton supporters will stand by her no matter what you say on here. And prove that the Clintons is doing the suing!!! Coz from where I can see and hear, its not them who is suing. If you Pro-Obama-ers have your conspiracy theory about this, well I would say i have one of my own, that Obama started the race card by distorting Hillary's speech on MLK... READ the script of what Hillary said that day!! and maybe you ignorant people who hates the Clintons so much can get and idea there is no racial comments made by Hillary... But then proobamaers will say "Obama's sooooo pure and kind and honest, he wouldn't do that..." He is a politician for goodness sake!!! He'll do anything too to get into the white house...
This further proves that you can't ask these people a simple question without this perjured, disbarred ADMITTED LIAR pointing his fat little finger at you.
You are not allowed to ask the King and "Queen" any questions.
Did Mrs. Edwards or Mrs. Obama do or say anything today or this week?
This serial adulterer deserves no more FREE PRESS than any of the other candidate’s spouses, but this also shows that she could not get elected dog catcher without his help or name.
Chris Wallace asked him a valid question and "Slick wily" overreacted, but that's what these "people" do when asked anything other than a planted or softball question.
So much for being “Presidential”.
They get accusatory, but that's what trash does.
I respect Obama and his classy wife more everyday.
The Clintons are called over zealous, cold, calculating – they wouldn't be complaining about this if the Culinary Union had endorsed Clinton, etc. What a bunch of crap. I expect fully, that Hillary with her husband's help, will do what she can to win. That is what I want her to do.
When is the media going to pick on Obama like this? They refuse to – why?
Those that say that the Clinton campaign has changed and that they think the campaign is coming unraveled – I hardly think so. They are fighting for survival against their opponents AND the media.
Remember, the "left-wing" media is owned by rich and powerful conservative republicans. Why do you think these stories are so anti-Clinton?
Please I said it once and I will say it again Hillary and Bill need to get out of politics do you really think it will be Hillary running the country if she wins.We need a new face and a new change in Washington.
The clinton campaign is feeling the heat here in Reno because most people I know are going to vote for OBAMA. I feel sorry for them because they know what's coming at them on Saturday. NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTONS, SORRY!!
Welcome to the Clinton News Network (aka CNN). It's amazing how many times you see the Clintons on the site and on the tube. I have seen more things dealing with Hilary's campain (some good, some bad) and it always seems as if it always comes off in a bias nature (pro-Clinton). What about Edwards? I do see some hits about Obama, but it's always with a spin to turn it into a Clinton article. I hate this election. But to put it nicely, We are looking for the lesser of two evils now and everything comes out the same. That's what happens with a bi-partisan government.
You Obama people are making people sick. Voting is usually done in schools, fire stations, and even in our case here in Ohio in a nursing home. Who votes in Cassinos? where the food workers are?
Funny how it has taken some people this long to finally figure out what many of us already determined in 1992. The Clintons are transparent, will do anything for a vote, and care only about themselves. Maybe it's because we can clearly see the desparation in the Clinton's actions now that it is becoming evident there will be no automatic coronation for Hillary.
It looks like most of people posting didn't even see the video. Clinton is not "lashing out". He's making a firm point with a reporter trying to imply that the Clinton campaign is behind this suit.
It's unbelievable how the media and some of the boobs (Egna, ZH, etc.) who post on this site distort any information on the Clintons.
CNN can you post exactly why the teacher's union filed this suit.
seriously, please explain the 5 times deal. I am trying to make an informed decision. Does anyone know?
Bill is an ego maniac. He is obviously sabotaging Senator Clinton's candidacy. His ego couldn't take being referred to as First Lady Bill. How would he get any chicks that way??? I wouldn't vote for a Clinton for dog catcher.
Bill Clinton is losing his credibility as days go by. He wants a 3rd term in the White House by all means. Americans are suffering from Bush-Clinton -Bush-Clinton syndrome. I wonder what would happen to Bill's legacy with all these mess.
Bill, you are not helping!
WOW...I thought voter suppression was a tactic that republicans only practiced
TCRNYL, NY, NY:
OH COME ON...........Why can't culinary workers and cassino workers vote unless they do it at the work place? What a question.
Are hospital workers voting at the hospital? Are air port workers voting at the air port? Come in. This OBAMA thing is like a Jim Jones thing, if any of you on here are old enough to remember. It is brain washing craziness. Obama's group is young and watch MTV.
This is getting ridiculous. It serves this country no good when a Past President ,regardless of party, goes off the deep end like Bill Clinton has been doing recently. He's turning into Hillary's worst enemy. For the record as numerous reporters and posters have stated. The DNC and the Nevada State Democratic Party agreed on these arrangements long ago. It is only after the Culinary Workers Union endorsed Obama that some Clinton supporters in the Nevada Teachers Union decided to try to supress the vote via this lawsuit. The DNC rightly intervened to project the original plan.
Remember that both Clintons "dissed" Iowa after they lost and if the same occurs in Nevada and/or South Carolina, we'll probably see more of the same. Bill Clinton is shooting the Democratic Party in the foot and giving the GOP a boost. Go home, shut up and stop making a fool out of yourself, Bill! Your day is over. Play the supporting role, to be sure, but no other Presidential partner or spouse has done such a lousy job of supporting their candidate.
Please God, he doesn't blow it and use the "N" word.
How many of you could take the middle of the day off to vote? It did raise my eyebrows to hear that all casino workers were being given time off to caucus. Are teachers supposed to leave their classrooms?
Every candidate should want the election to be fair – endorsed or not – and should speak up to that effort. Obama, Clinton or Edwards would all serve well. Let's stop bickering and try to keep the courts out of this!
Come on, CNN. Yesterday's title was that Hillary "attacked" Obama when she highlighted their different management styles - a fair discussion among presidential candidates. Today's title is that Bill "goes off" on a reporter because he strongly expresses a point of view.
You are not fooling anyone with your biased pro-Obama coverage, and I think you're losing the respect of thousands of viewers every day.
I keep hearing of Bill Clinton getting irate. I'm surprised is it age or what? The reason I say this is because I think the whole reason he won the Presidential election when he ran was because of his calm, pleasant demeanor. Being so cool and smooth. Now he keeps getting angry in his wife's campain concerning Obama. I think this may cause her too lose.
Poor old Bill ,someone needs to send him home for a nice quiet rest. He's can't stand the heat , so the cold of New York is just what he needs. And we know he never could stand the truth....
Seems Bill is getting testy a lot lately. If the Clintons aren't involved then
why be defensive?
Bill Clinton seems to get crazier by the day. Does he not understand that his finger pointing and flush-faced anger make him look like a hungover WC Fields struggling to make a point to an audience that can't make sense out if whatever point he is trying to make. This guy is coming apart, and it ain't a pretty picture.
As was mentioned, the caucus is on Saturday, a day which teachers can easily vote, becuase they do not have to work. Casino workers do and holding this at casinos allows them to vote! It is not, as Bill said, that casino workers' votes count more, it is that these sites are planning to host the largest numbers of people IN GENERAL, teachers and casino workers, and so have more delegates.
Casino workers will not be able to vote if caucuses are held at schools, obviously a huge victory for the dirty playing Clintons. It is crazy how the Clintons behave like bratty children, insisting on getting their way all the time. Hillary is not a viable candidate, her victories come from playing dirty and being tricky, not from being an excellent candidate.
Obama is electable in the general election, since hard core democrats will vote for a democrat whether it is Hillary or Obama, but in the case of Obama, so will independents and disillusioned republicans (who would NEVER vote for Hillary).
Not many people on here have comented on the actual subject of the piece. Caucuses are arcane and don't fit with modern society. However, having one in the middle of the day in a place where tons of people work, does seem to disadvantage those who do not work there and/or those who have to complete a regular work day elsewhere.
I believe Bill Clinton that the campaign did not have anything to do with the lawsuit. This primary season has been full of wrong conclusions jumped to by the media. I suspect that the discriminating reader (no, I don't mean race or gender), this would be such a case. I still support Hillary Clinton because she is the best candidate.
Wow, I can't believe the disconnect between the article (which makes it sound like Clinton goes mad) versus the video (where he basically keeps his cool and says his piece). And where did his aides "pull him away"? Certainly not at any time during the video you've provided. Reading these comments, one expects Clinton-haters to misinterpret the video in the worst way possible, but from "the most trusted" source for news organization, CNN? Come on, CNN. You report, we'll decide.
Can someone take this madman, Clinton, to a deserted island to cool down? Looks like menopause is getting to him. And, by the way, someone needs to make him real clear that it is the other Clinton that is running, not him.
What a sorry state of affairs the Dems find themselves in. While it's true that any U.S. Citizen can become President, (given the quaifications as dictated by law), they find themselves with a Muslim candidate, and a woman, who, when shamed by her philandering husband, didn't have the chutzpah to toss him out on his ear.
Let me guess why...perhaps he was viewed as the key to opening future doors to her political ambitions. Whatever her reasons, does anyone think that she has the aforementioned chutzpah to make decisions concerning USA and world affairs.? I certainly don't,, and she certainly hasn't shown me any differently. Dems, it should be back to the drawing board for your party. You've paraded a group of unqualified losers before the public, in a time when a strong leader has the perfect opportunity to unseat the incumbent Republican.
Come on guys, can Bill cough without so much noise. Are you guys trying to take away his free speech right. It is only those who wear the shoe know where it pains them. Some of you hide behind computer screen and make remarks that always vilify the Clintons. For once can they be regarded as free citizens and be left alone?
His comment did not sound as though he was combative. The media is loving this right now because they needed more drama. Not enough to report on Brittney or OJ today. The reporter asked a question and he answered the question. I did not detect that he yelled, raised his voice or even said one curse word. He was exact in what he had to say and he got his point across. I must say the he handled himself in a way that showed his intelligence concerning the matter. Media I beg you, just report. Stop try to create stories that are not an issue.
For those who say Hillary is no Bill Clinton, yes you are all right. So don't make judgements based on that either by saying enough of 'clinton' years, cos Hillary has yet become the president. Judge her on her work record and what she stands for. Everyone should be judged equally based on their cases and what they say they will do when they get elected.
Bill can hell defend Hillary if people keep making false statments. Anyone who has the guts will defend the one who is right. This is just out of control. Anything remotely negative about Obama is taken as race issue and get attacked. But on the other hand Hillary can't even defend herself. Give me a break.
It proves once again that the clintons would do whatever it takes to get power. They are constantly playing politics with the minds of americans. Hilary Clinton claims to know everything, 35 years of experience, can solve all our problems and has no weaknesses. That's truly amazing for a woman who has no position on anything, voted for the iraq war, couldn't handle or fix the healthcare reforms she initiated, and recently showed wrong judgement on iranian nukes. What we need is real change and a refreshing view of politics, which i believe Obama has consistently portrayed through out this campaign. Stop the fear mongering!!!! we can all work together regardless of our background(s), beliefs, and party affiliation.
You guys really need to read to lawsuit. Its pretty obvious that the creation of these caucus locations are violating nevada law.
-Requires a location to have 4,000 workers that are unable to vote because they have to work. Fine and dandy but then teachers at a school (obviously less then 4,000 workers) can't have the same privilege. Hence there reason for teachers union involvement in the lawsuit.
-Each new caucus location at the casinos is treated as its own county and therefore gets 80 delegates minimum. Therefore, if only 400 people vote then there is one delegate per 5 people. In Clarck County which has more then 4,000 registered democratic voters (the way that delegates are named is 80 per county or counties with more then 4,000 registered democrats 1 delegate per 50 registered democrats) there is only 1 delegate for every 50 registered democrat voters. Therefore because of the difference in calculation (also a violation of nevada election laws) there is the potential for a vote in these floating precincts to be worth 10 times or more as much as one in clarck county. (also a violation of equal protection under the law)
-the new locations are open longer (violation of equal protection under the law)
All of this is in the lawsuit, its only 13 pages long and is actually a pretty easy read. I would recommend it before you draw judgement from this sensationalized article.
Senior senator to back Obama.....Now tell me if they are any foolish bill...
No matter what they do, no matter what they say someone always manages to spin the mess around in the Clintons favor. Listen up this is not a fake story two days after they gave their support for Obama, Clinton supporters filed a lawsuit against them. Now this was agreed to back in March of last year and re-affirmed in August of last year the lawsuit should have been filed then not let's wait and see if Hillary gets their endorsement or not. I hope the Judges make them honor their agreement.
All I can say is : When a tangled web is weaved it will always come undone, when it began as deceit. I am not surprised that the Democrats are loosing(going off) it. The Clinton's hard work is full of deceit and the efforts of hiding it is what they call hardworking and working for the People.
How would you like to be Hillary's Vice President with Bill around all the time. Hillary's VP position, the graveyard where a prominent Democrat would go to die, just like Bill ruined it for Al. Gore.
This video definetely shows someone with enough gut and knowledge sticking up for what is the right thing to do and set the record straight with right information. People need to be more open minded. Place yourself in the shoe and see how you would react. Probably punch the reporter.
Good job Nevada!!!!!!!!!!! Just heard the court ruling on allowing casino caucuses. The little man DOES still have a voice.
Let the games begin...Billy Boy shut the heck up. Are you going to cry that the federal courts are anti-Clinton????
Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go America!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea, and you want this man and his wife in the White House for 8 more years? Not me. I had enough seven years ago. I'm now for anyone but her.
Every negative comment I've seen about Bill on this comment board so far hasn't addressed his point at all. He was entirely right and forceful about it, which is EXACTLY what I want from a statesman. Be right and be strong.
I read the article and watched the clip... to use the terms "visible combative" would be a gross exageration of what transpired. It appears to me that the writer of the ticker article was being "grammatically combative" in his choice to words that only seemed to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Was the tenor of his writing really an unbiased reporting of what happened or an effort to stir the pot, as it were, for the most shock value?
I have had a major problem with Hillary holding onto Bill's coattails her whole political journey. Having to read an article tells me it continues. How can anyone have respect for a presidential candidate that cries over losing and has her impeached husband speaking up for her. C'mon!!! What's next a debate between the spouses? Oh, that's right, Bill Boy gets the press, no one knows anything about the other spouses.
"Lashing out"? Come on. He just told the person what he thought, cohesively and without conciliation. Talk about media hype.
I find it so contrived when all you see around Bill Clinton are African Americans. Why must this couple play so many games? They had their time in The White House and I don't remember any significant changes in the country. In fact, I remember a few terror attacks. Oh yes, Bill rode the wave of the technology bubble which had the economy soaring...
It should be apparent to all by now that the Clinons are up to their old tried-and-true tactics...probably why a lot of people want "change".
I'm not going to research all the Presidential campaigns, but Bin Laden blowing up the WTC basement was definitely a warning that he needed to be dealt with.
Bill said "Don't be accusatory with me, I had nothing to do with this lawsuit." and "I never had sex with that woman."
You know how to tell he's lying, his mouth is open
Hey remember bill got a bad heart he better take it easy, He may implode before it all over!!!!!!!!!
Hillary Clinton can not win this election.
There may be a particular reason why she is trying to disenfranchise hispanic voters in Nevada.
Not only did she support the hotel caucus before she was snubbed for the endorsement, but there is a bigger issue here.
As a concerned American, I just found out that she supported Barry Goldwater over LBJ when they ran for president. And yes, I am a young voter because I just found out about this fact, but here is the real story: Barry Goldwater was totally against civil rights! If it were up to Senator Clinton, hispanics wouldn’t have benefited at all from MLK and LBJ civil rights movement.
Talk about someone who doesn’t deserve to represent Americans!
It has to do with the amount of delegates you get for each region or precinct a candidate wins which is based on the population of that precinct. So, according to Bill or the teacher's union, based on the population of the area where these voting booths are, whoever wins that area (precinct) will get like 700 delegates, which according to them is disproportionate to the number of delegates other precincts have based on bigger or smaller populations. So is Obama wins this special precinct near the casinos then he would get 700 delgates, and if Clinton wins another precinct with a similar population, then she would only get 200. That is what he is talking about when he says the people who vote in the special precinct have their votes count more than people in other precincts.
That is what I understand to be the problem. It is a little fishy though that this only became a problem after Obama got the big union endorsements. BUT I still think it is a problem if one precinct gets a disproportionate amount of delegates. I don't care that these voting booths were set up to accomidate these night workers who do not get to caucus but their votes should not get to count more or anything.
For 8 years Bill Clinton always defended himself with "the first I learned of this was when I read about it in the newspaper". Really?
I see Hatred still is worth spewing for the anti-Clinton movement and all this over the right to have accuracy in voting in Las Vegas. Hmmmm Wasn't it just a week ago that all this hatred spewing anti-Clinton people, accusing the Clinton campaign for voter fraud in New Hampshire and demmanded a recount of the votes?(via Kucinich)
All the other political parties are simply laughing at all of you hateful and dirty minded people. Can't control your anger and have to channel it through stupidity and ignorance. You just set America back 20 years, want to make it 40?
HEHEHE
Combative? I didn't see anything combative in his response. A candidate or his/her supporters can't say anything truthful without the media totally blowing it up.
Well written article. Now, do you want to explain Mr. Clinton's comment regarding why its unfair and how the votes would count up to or more than 5 times other voter's vote?
Can't the US come up with a better class of candidates? This group sound like a bunch of ignorant rednecks. The DNC should be embarrased–thebehavior exhibited by the two alleged front-runners is disgraceful and I do hope the voting public takes note.
Watch the video, he didnt raise his voice, aides didn't pull him away. People in Casinos arent the only ones working Saturday, I am sure that hundreds of Police and Firefighters will find ways to exercise their right to franchise without having their own little caucus set up at the workplace.
I also found that article to be typical CNN inflammatory garbage attempting to create a story where there really is none.
The above article is quite sensationalistically worded; I saw the video and Bill Clinton, though irritated, did not speak to the reporter in a "raised voice" (which suggests he was shouting) and he was not "pulled away" by his aides... for someone who didn't see the video, you've written it to look like he was out of control.
Using words like "lashing out" is quite a misdiagnosis of the incident and is not the kind of objective reporting that a respectable news organization should claim.
For my part, I thought Bill was right to object and good on him for taking issue with it.
Drama January 17, 2008 1:43 pm ET
"Would someone enlighten me please, how can a vote count five times, maybe more?"
It is about the number of delegates attached to votes. I don;t know how they count 5 times, but nobody attacked this point and i saw it somewhere else. The main idea is that you make caucusing easier for a particular group no matter with whom they will vote. And this was perhaps known by some when rules were made. So I guess the candidate trick was to get endorsed by the privileged group. My main concern is about caucusing with your co-workers. This is not a personal vote, its open. How are you your position democratically when your job may be in trouble if you don;t go in the same corner with your boss?
Go Bubba......next time....punch 'em in the mouth....slap'em across the face....give'em a black eye......I don't blame you brother for getting a little upset.....I would do a lot more to them if they disrespected my wife like that.....
At a certain point, one gets tired of the media always wanting to crown Obama King, and the casinos have the voting set up where the workers vote will count for one than one vote. This is not constitutional. This country is one man (woman) one vote. If the votes in the casinos count as more than one, then all of the votes in Nevada should count more than one.
The media is doing everything it can to help Obama win and try to slant EVERY story to make the Clinton's look bad. I'd be mad as hell too!
The two of them are pathetic.
Wow! Go Bill! We are all tired of the inaccurate News Reporting.
How many times has someone asked you a question about politics or religion and you defend your opinion, sometimes with an argument? The Clintions have the same right right, thats why we have soldiers dying in Iraq for, the right to speak our minds. Bill was exercising his rights.
Better take advantage of it now because if the Obama gets elected your rights will start dissapearing.
It should be apparent to all by now that the Clintons are up to their old tried-and-true tactics...probably why a lot of people want "change".
Even through the impeachment, I supported Bill Clinton. But in this election, I am supporting Obama. Either way, Bill was on his way to restoring his place in American history, until he began to savor the idea of living back in the White House. Actually, slobber is a better word than savor. He is so obviously disgusting, that I think his legacy is gone forever, unless Hillary gets elected. Then, imagine how he will treat reporters, how often he will "leak" stories, how many times he will pick up the phone to call world leaders without clearing it with his wife, the politicking he will do behind her back. It is repulsive to even think about. Not to mention the thought of him wandering the halls of the White House, looking for girls or some sort of action. There should be some sort of law keeping an ex-president out of the White House whether his wife gets elected or not.
Just try to imagine who would take the VP or Sec of State jobs with Bill around. Only Bill Richardson would consider it. This doesn't even address the phony claims of Hillary to 35 years of experience making change. How about her 12 years at the Rose Law Firm, the biggest corporate establishment law firm in Arkansas...that is 12 of her supposed 35 years. She made change then, all right, six to seven figures of dollars of change. What a phony. If she is elected, the majority of the world, certainly the Arab countries, won't even deal with her. If she couldn't get health insurance passed when we had a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress., imagine how the Republicans will stonewall anything she tries to do. We are looking at 4 years of stagnation, if she can even get elected. I can think of nothing that will unite the Republican party more and give them a chance to win than nominating Hillary...someone with the highest percentage of unfavorables in the country.
Bill, please shut your mouth, and go back into hiding. Not that you and Hillary are living together anyway. Hillary made a Faustian bargain 20 years ago, and now she and Bill are trying to make it come true. And Bill is showing himself to be the Karl Rove of Democratic politics. Sickening, isn't it?
Bill Clinton and his wife for the matter, gets angry whenever they are asked questions they do not want to answer. They act like How dare you question us, don't you know how we are?
You can bet there would not have been a lawsuit if the union had endorsed Hillary instead of Barack.
They are all about winning, no matter the damage they do to the party.
These two – Bill and Hillary Clinton – are the sleaziest politicians in our country. And we are paying attention? When did Bill Clinton become the candidate? Has anyone made mention of the fact that Senator Obama's wife and former Senator John Edward's wife are both conducting themselves with the highest integrity? Does that count for anything anymore? Are we going to slip down the same filthy slide Bill took us 8 years ago? Why do you think we got Bush and all his cronies to begin with? Two words. Bill Clinton.
Bill, you have heart trouble, don't mess with the reporters and get stresed. Like some one said, go back to your slick willy days. No third term for you and your wife.
The DNC agreed and so does the federal judge now. But apparently, slick willy is a champion of caucuses !! What a joke....
As long as the Clinton coverage is negative, keep them coming CNN.
Viva Obama
***********Has any one besides me noticed that while the Clintons are out there playing dirty politics, throwing dirt on Obamas name and campaign, Barack has taken the high road, not talking about the Clintons, trying to resolve issues with the Clintons instead of playing there back and forth he said she said game. Obama is more focused on the people of America then the Clintons who are obsessed with taking him down instead of the real issues*****************
Doug...you are brilliant...
COUNT ALL THE VOTES” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side in Las Vegas. In that case Hillary’s operatives file a lawsuit to disenfranchise the voters she wants to silence. More dirty tricks from the masters of sleaze. This is just the beginning for her.
“GET CORPORATE LOBBYIST MONEY OUT OF POLITICS” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side. In that case Hillary takes more of their money than all the other Democrat AND Republican candidates COMBINED.
What hypocrites. The saddest part is this corrupt bunch will win because – “WE WILL BE MAKING HISTORY BY ELECTING THE 1ST WOMAN PRESIDENT” she yells, and the uninformed and naive will flock to her like lemmings toward a cliff.
After, and because of her Presidency, it will probably be another 200 years until a woman gets a chance again.
Why not Ray. Why shouldn't he defend his wife. He is seeing the country go down in recession and the economy slumping and he is worried hat any other candidate will not make it better. He needs to make sure that his wife becomes the prez and with his support again the economy will grow, Don't forget that we had 1 trillion dollars in surplus when he was the prez. He can do it again.
Now the media is so sleazy. They talk about the Clintons as they talk about Spears, Lohan and Hilton every day. Give these guys a break. He was the best prez our country had and his wife will be superior to him.
YEAY!
Thank God the COURT intervened again on behalf of good as opposed to evil. The Party of Jim Crow FAILED to disenfranchise voters and that's the way it should be. This entire election will be one for the History books and the Clinton's have tarnished what little bit of good standing they may have gained in the 1990's.
Reporters ponder why the citizens of the US do not make platform an important issue. I ask, "Why wound anyone worry about issues, when you cannot believe a word that is uttered? Lack of trust worthiness, dedication to pork and self interests is primary. We cannot worry about issues, just which person is less likely to steal away our lands and freedoms. My son lives in the "Romney manditory insurance state". The bill gives full power to the Insurance Companies to decide that his family of four policy must cost him $1000 per month because "THEY" decide he can afford it.
There is no choice? Where is the logic?
How can anyone afford that assessment on top of house payments, mtg taxes, fuel costs. I think Edwards made a great point in the NV debates when he asked Hillary and Obama what they thought the Insurance companies expected for thier contributions. It shows in Massachusetts and it will be everyones problem is they do not realize what power our representatives are granting to the Insurance companies.
Here in WV they assess road tolls to upkeep the highway. But misappropriation of those funds made it priority for the Dems to increase fuel taxes for road repair the first week they were in power. Why don't they demand repayment of misappropriated funds?
We all know the answer. The only issue on our minds is how do we survive, despite the corruption in our capitals? It seems to me that someone would realize we have just about reached our saturation point for corruption. We are a sinking ship and we are soon going down if someone does not step up to the plate and "DEMAND" accountablility.
When Democrates can look into the camera with a straight face and say, the Billions of dollars in pork attached to a bill is nothing, then complain Social Security is failing, we need a reality check.
And while I am at it! Why does no one ask the Clintons about their Camen Is accounts or their investments in the Domican Republic?
OH MY GOD !!! WILL SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS LYING SACK OF CRAP TO BED ALREADY?!!
He needs to stay out from in front of the camera! He looks really desperate that his wife's presidential bid is more about him than it is her!
HE DISGUSTS ME!
I swear that I am voting Republican if Hillary wins!
OH MY GOD !!! WILL SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS LYING SACK OF CRAP TO BED ALREADY?!!
He needs to stay out from in front of the camera! He looks really desperate, and it seems that his wife's presidential bid is more about HIM than it is her!
HE DISGUSTS ME!
I swear that I am voting Republican if Hillary wins!
They are looking so desperate now. I love Bill but Hillary is no Bill and she never will be.
Obama is ABCD- All Blah Confused Democrate
CNN is not going to post this however they would post all the crap about clinton
Ha ha!
Raging Bill!
Rage against the (Clinton) Machine. lol
STATUS QUO MUST GO!
NO ILLEGAL CLINTON THIRD TERM!
Considering that Bill Clinton has a bad heart, you would think that his wife would care about her husband's health and be encouraging Bill Clinton to take it easy, and
LET HILARY CLINTON DEMONSTRATE THAT SHE CAN RUN HER OWN CAMPAIGN AND THE US GOVERNMENT!.
Please do not vote these communist, sociopathic PIGS back into office. Both Hillary and Bill should be in Prison not the White House. How soon the feeble minded of America forget...or don't care.
Hey, everybody has a bad moment. Bill's just happened to get caught on camera here. Look at the drink he's clutching in his hand. It may just be that he partook a bit too heavily of the Spirits prior to the line of questioning.
I've always found Clintons hatred a bit of a baffling phenomenon. At times, I've disliked the political timidity of the Clintons, or thought that Bill Clinton allowed his personal appetites to overwhelm his public duties to the detriment of this country.
I think Obama has walked a fine line of character and integrity.
Vote with your head not your heart!
TLO – thank you.
Once again – shame on the media.
Bill Clinton is out of control and showing the nation what an arrogant jerk he is and always has been. Deny,deny, deny is his way of dealing.
@norma ... try reading more about the facts of the situation before going on your rant.
Norma said: "This was rather cute, nicely coordinated trick on his part to change the rules to include a particular group of voters, and disenfranchise others who just happen to have a different schedule. And he believes this is a fair and honest move. It would have been a done deal had not the Teacher's Union come forward. What a disgrace, and he espouses being above dirty politics."
Those rules were set up months ago, before the Culinary union endored Obama. It's the teacher's union, who support Hillary that are trying to 'change the rules.'
What I'm curious about is: if the Caucus is on happening Saturday (19th), how many teachers are going to tied up with work? I don't get it.
Also: aren't most votes held in schools anyways?
Bill Clinton is upset because the media is reporting that Hillary's campaign had something to do with this lawsuit. Is it so far of a stretch to believe that the Teacher's Union can make its own decisions? Maybe Bill is just tired of the media slanting everything, whether it be against the Hillary campaign, the Obama campaign, the Edwards campaign, the McCain campaign....everything is sensastionalized. I agree with the above comments. This is not Britney Spears, this is a former President of the U.S. we're talking about. He might be campaigning on behalf of his wife and deserve objective criticism, but he still deserves respect.
Didn't seem like he was that angry, or at least not as advertised. Garrison Keillor had a funny column the other day about the media overuse of the term "lashed out." Wasn't much of a lashing.
1. A caucus is not a fraud – nobody is forced to participate period. Anyone who believes people have to caucus in front of their boss is completely uninformed.
2. I am a temporary caucus chair for my precinct. I am a Democrat. I will not be checking ID's at the door for th caucus. I was not instructed to do so at our caucus training, and it does not say anything about that in the instruction booklet issued by the Nevada Democratic Party for use during the caucus.
BOO-HOO! OH....BOOOO-HOOOO! i've emptied a whole tissue box crying for the injustice of it all for bill and hillary.
it's so strange that the lawsuit came 2 days after then culinary union endorsed obama and not hillary. it's also strange that hillary and her pitbull husband didn't contest this arrangement when she was ahead in the polls in nevada.
BOO-HOO hillary, BOO-HOO bill. i feel your pain!
Always a witch hunt w/ the Clintons. They both are good people. Leave them alone.
This country needs them both back in the Whitehouse. Hillary is going to be a great Prez and Bill is going to help get countries to re-trust us again. Why doesn't
the current administration get the negative media that they deserve?
Bill gets really upset when the truth bites him in his back pocket.
Reporters ponder why the citizens of the US do not make platform an important issue. I ask, "Why wound anyone worry about issues, when you cannot believe a word that is uttered? Lack of trust worthiness, dedication to pork and self interests is primary. We cannot worry about issues, just which person is less likely to steal away our lands and freedoms. My son lives in the "Romney manditory insurance state". The bill gives full power to the Insurance Companies to decide that his family of four policy must cost him $1000 per month because "THEY" decide he can afford it.
There is no choice? Where is the logic?
How can anyone afford that assessment on top of house payments, mtg taxes, fuel costs. I think Edwards made a great point in the NV debates when he asked Hillary and Obama what they thought the Insurance companies expected for thier contributions. It shows in Massachusetts and it will be everyones problem is they do not realize what power our representatives are granting to the Insurance companies.
Here in WV they assess road tolls to upkeep the highway. But misappropriation of those funds made it priority for the Dems to increase fuel taxes for road repair the first week they were in power. Why don't they demand repayment of misappropriated funds?
We all know the answer. The only issue on our minds is how do we survive, despite the corruption in our capitals? It seems to me that someone would realize we have just about reached our saturation point for corruption. We are a sinking ship and we are soon going down if someone does not step up to the plate and "DEMAND" accountablility.
When Democrates can look into the camera with a straight face and say, the Billions of dollars in pork attached to a bill is nothing, then complain Social Security is failing, we need a reality check.
And while I am at it! Why does no one ask the Clintons about their Camen Is accounts or their investments in the Domican Republic?
Gee, the title of the report is misleading. Again. I watched the video. He didn't seem like he was spitting fire.
However, i do not agree with his position. Trying to take voting rights from people is just plain wrong. Have a nice day.
Billary will do anything to get back into the White House, they'll even stoop to voter suppression. The teachers union may have filed the lawsuit, but whose pulling the strings on that one. Hillary supporters are fools not to see that Bill and Hillary's true movtiation is POWER!
Judge just ruled against the Clintons, and pretty much said tha Bill Clinton is a big fat liar. Will slicky Willie now claim that he was always against the lawsuit by the Teachers' Union, just like he claimed that he was always against the Iraq Invasion.
Here is the latest on the lawsuit ruling:
Judge OKs casino caucuses in Nevada
Posted: 02:10 PM ET
LAS VEGAS (CNN) — The Democratic Party can go ahead with a plan to let casino workers take part in Saturday's Nevada caucuses in "at-large" precincts set up in their workplaces, a federal judge ruled Thursday.
January 18, 2008
Dear Fellow Americans,
We are both registered Democrats.
We feel it is unfair that some Democrats get the advantage of being able to walk from their work place right into a Caucus close to their workplace while other Democrats have to drive to a certain location in their neighborhood where they are registered voters, usually miles from where they work, to caucus for their favorite candidate!
This favored treatment for some of the Democratic Voters is unfair!
Are they setting up caucus locations in your workplace so that you don't have to
drive to your neighborhood where you are a registered voter and caucus???
This is setting a precedent that all states should have to set up caucus locations in all workplaces for everyone, both Republicans and Democrats to make the causcus process fair to everyone!!!
Just because we are a 24 hour town doesn't give any reason for special treatment for only a few Democratic and/or Republican Voters!!!
What do you think? Do think it is fair that the workers on the Las Vegas Strip get special treatment in the caucus process???
Ed and Lois Denaut at ldenaut@yahoo.com
Another example of media hype where reporters prefer to exaggerate events rather than report them. I watched the video and laughed at the word choice "combative." Mr. Clinton responded with what I would consider appropriate vigor and did not even approach combat, aggression, or excessive irritation. And I'm even a Barak Obama supporter.
Would the "Teacher's Union" have done the same thing if the Culinary Worker's Union had endorsed Hillary instead ? Bill Clinton might think he is being assertive, but I see it as being plain rude. If he is not visibly combative, it is apparent that he is very upset with the question. What confounds me is that why is he upset with the question when he thinks that the Teacher's Union is doing the right thing? A cooler denial was all that was needed. Displays of emotions like this will only hurt the Democrats as a whole. I guess this goes with Mrs. Clinton's "finding her true voice" episode in NH....Does we really want Bill Clinton to behave like this as a prospective "First Husband" ?
Erin, you better do some research because you are very misguided. If it wasn't for Hillary, Bill would've never become what he did. For you to say that she's riding his coat tails is ridiculous. It's actually the other way around.
One more thing. I'm tired of the segment of the population that thinks we're not allowed to stand up for ourselves anymore. I'm tired of all this PC stuff. I want to know what people really think. I also want people put in their place when they open their big mouths and are wrong about what they say. There are too many people who make up stuff and then everyone believes it. I want somebody who actually stands up for themselves.
Bill wasn't being verbally combative and defensive. He was taking charge and setting the record straight. Way to go Bill!
I don't know if I would have called Bill "combative" but definitely hysterical. Aides had to pull him away? This is a sign of someone who is more than "standing up for himself"...it sounds a bit like he's beginning to lose it.
If a candidate (and her husband) agrees to something without looking at or comprehending the possible scenarios, should they be the one to have their finger on the big red button?
Nothing goes on in some of the media (and especially this board) except Clinton bashing.
It's ignorant, and I'm thoroughly disgusted with it.
This is a real turn-off to decent people out here like me.
I am thankful that I am not that hateful a person!
Gee, I dunno. Is the election fair? That's the question here. It's obviously not. Caucuses are intrinsically not fair for voters. Primaries at least give voters at least twelve hours to haul their butts down to a polling station. Caucuses intentionally (I believe) limit themselves to the most dedicated party people. Not democratic. So we get a lot of political garbage and non-news because of them. Madness.
I wonder why he got REALLY MAD.......I think deep down they DID have something to do with the lawsuit.
But of course, I belived him when he said "I did not have sex with that woman" and my favorite one "I did not inhale" Yeah, billy boy I believe you this time around.
I WISH THE CLINTON's WOULD GET OUT OF politics, they had their turn.......good grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Clinton really needs to get out of the limelight
He is coming across as very desperate and it does not reflect well on Hillary
He needs to "let his wife run her own campaign"
Also he is not looking well ....very tired and ragged looking
He needs to think of the stress and the impact it could have on his health problems
Go relax Bill, Hillary is quite capable of running her own campaign!
Today’s journalists act more like paparazzi than responsible reporters, as indicated in this article. Too few reporters, certainly here at CNN, seek to gain new information and share it with an equally informed or at least intellectually engaged public. Too many seek controversy, looking to incite the public and/or create a problem when one didn’t exist. Pay attention to what this article is focused on: that Clinton was “visibly combative”; he doesn’t appear combative at all but the very use of that word makes you think something is getting out of control. Note that the writers don’t even deal with what Clinton was saying: THAT THE CULINARY UNION WAS TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE VOTING PROCESS. A responsible journalist would have reported on the issue first and the emotions, second.
And for crying out loud, it is the Teachers’ Union who took out the lawsuit, not the Clintons. Yes, the Teachers’ Union supports Clinton. Yes, the Culinary Union supports Obama. Step one in information land. But do we then get to make the assumption that everything the Teachers’ Union does is scripted by the Clinton campaign? If that’s the case, then we also would need to make the same assumption – that everything the Culinary Union is doing is scripted by Obama. Since there is a lawsuit involved, you probably don’t want to go there. Besides, it is sloppy thinking.
Do not let the cheesy sensationalists at CNN influence you. Insist on honesty and accuracy from the media. It is incredibly dangerous for a country, or a person, to settle for anything less.
(note: revised to take out an inappropriate word...)
You need to check your facts....
FACT:
The only ID required for the voting of the kitchen workers and maids–is a union ID...or a employee ID...and they're in.
Isn't it nice to know perhaps 2/3 of the votes will be made by illegal aliens. Must make us proud as a nation.
Not a legal document like a voter registration card or drivers license-dunderheads.
Bill Clinton you are a hypocrite & a liar;
If you are genuinely concern about some people's "vote worthing five times.. more than others…as you put it”, why didn't you say that since March last year when the rules was made?
Oh! I know the reason, your wife Mrs. Clinton was the front runner then, so the rules benefited her then and as far as you are concern it was cool then.
Why accuse the rule & the timing of the Caucus; 24-48 hrs after the Culinary Union had just endorse another candidate?
Or the rule is only good when it favors the Clintons and bad when it favors someone else?
Thank God the Judge saw through the lies & disguise and OKed the caucus.
Hey Bill,
Who gets to vote 5 times? You're not saying our democracy is at stake, are you?
Since you're at it, how about an audit on that New Hampshire result? A 16-point swing that everybody (but Hillary supporters) still question.
You must be listening to Rush. Do us all a favor. Keep talking how proud you are of Barack. That's what you did for one day, at least.
Steven Klein
I really think you brought up some scary, but very valid concerns about Bill Clinton's potential miscues in the future!!
Bill can't help himself.
WELL, WELL, WELL, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. JUST WAIT, GIVEN ENOUGH TIME AND ROPE, THEY WILL HANG THEMSELVES I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE,
IF HILARY CLINTON DO NOT WIN "PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"
WILLIE BILLIE IS "HISTORY" HA, HA, HA I GOT TO STOP READING THIS, I'M
BEGINNING TO SOUND LIKE THOSE PEOPLE.
Nevadans, this is your chance! If you have people left over in your (Obama) group after beating clinton, be sure to send Edward's group some extras for him to get second place.
Obama/Edwards08!
Regardless of the appropriateness of clinton's remarks, the former president is not running for a third term. It is Hillary Clinton who is running for president. He is becoming a liability for the clinton campaign. Obama has to run a clean campaign and refrain from topics of race and discrimination. In regards to his drug abuse as a teen, the daughters of the bush family are no saints. If Republicans target obama's drug use as a kid, Obama can talk about the daughters of the bush brothers. So the republicans need to be careful.
mike in cleveland,
Please stop making Cleveland look bad, I grew up there. Bill didn't have a point, this was agreed to by all parties in March and I thought they were not part of it. They are just annoyed the union supported Obama and not Hillary.
This is politics the Clinton’s way. Have we forgotten how Bill demoralized the Presidency? I am a retired Veteran and I like others did not respect him at all. She will not bring anything to the White House other than problems.
I hope the America sees this for what it is, sleazy politics the Clinton’s way doing anything to get elected, well she will not get my vote at all
If you can't win fair and square win any way you can. That is the Clinton way.
Contemptible hypocrite and a childish, playground bully to boot.
When the Clintons lose just watch how they and their supports claim the election (any election) was rigged. Takes one to know one.
Don't get mad Bill. You should have tried the crying trick. It worked for Slick Willary in New Hampshire. Those gullible people believed every tear.
Inquiring Mind
***I have noticed that also and wonder why she's still talking about him. I swear I think she's gonna vote for him, it's always, Obama this or Obama that. *****
Obama08
The Clintons instigated this hold thing. They are playing dirty politics. They approved for the workers to caucus at the casinos10 months ago but once union endorse Obama the Clintons get one of their supporters to file suit two weeks later after the endorsement. Hillary kept her mouth shut but o.........no his conscious start bothering him that's why he got upset.
I don't know enough about the details of the dispute that led to the court action to take one side or another, but in regards to Bill Clinton, I didn't hear him raise his voice or even use an accusatory tone, so I don't know where the "combative" description comes from unless there was an additional exchange not on the clip.
Bravo for the judgment to allow the culinary union members an opportunity to participate in the caucus. This whole issue has from the beginning been the Clinton's playing politics, with the goal of enhancing their chance of garnering the bulk of the delegates awarded by the caucus. Their idea is that winning is more important than encouraging and promoting citizen participation–which, by the way, undermines a free society.
Craig
Maybe Obama can find the Culinary Worker's Union legitimate papers while he's at it.
Congratulations to Mr. Mooney and Ms. Sinderbrand for the stupidest media report of the day! Watching the video report, it did not appear that Bill Clinton raised his voice, it looked more like he wanted a chance to explain his position. The verity of his explanation is another issue altogther. CNN staff: why not work a little harder on your fair and balanced coverage? Give the Clintons a break and go follow on Michelle Obama's heels for awhile. She might get a little testy with you too.
Thank heavens a court has blocked this nonsense!!! I was completely sickened to read that the Billary political machine would stoop so hypocritically low to try and keep people from voting–primarily minorities.
Wake up Democrats. That's what you're getting if you put Billary back in office.
Bill, take a sedative or something. I know you want to be back in control of everything, but back off. You're fighting against the American people and their right to vote.
Thank God for the federal judge who exercised some sanity into this process. The Clinton machine might get slowed down a bit – hopefully a lot! They have been use to mowing down everyone in their paths for years and maybe for once they can take out five minutes and reflect on their tactics. I am a "Yellow Dog" Democrat – but will never in this lifetime vote for Hillary Clinton!!!
LYNN said:
I still remember having to explain to my 13 year old daughter and her friends that 'oral sex was really sex.'
Oh,,,,LYYYYYNNNNN, explain to your daughter why Republican Foley waits for interns to hit 18 and why Craig taps his shoe in airport restroom, or why a republican judge has a lubricant and a doll when he was arrested.
Oh please, please, explain that to her.
Bill Clinton is a dope. HRC is right there with him. Team Billary is just a sad combination.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. A vote for HRC is not a vote for change, but a vote for the same. You like what Bush is doing? You want more of it? Vot for HRC and you got it. More lies, more spin, more people saying stupid things, more people not accepting responsibility for their actions, more controversies, more unreleased documents, more finger pointing, more, more, more...BS.
Please do not vote for HRC. Washington will not change Washington and to think it will is living a fairy tail.
I agree with George Will's comment: "Speaking of the boomers' inexhaustible fascination with themselves, Bill Clinton has transformed his wife's campaign into his narcissism tour. As the New York Times dryly described a New Hampshire appearance the day after her Iowa rejection: "He talked about his administration, his foundation work and some about his wife.""
However, it talks only about tactical campaigning. There is something of more concern.
Running to redeem a father and now, a husband, is a story worth writing.
Much has been written about George W running to redeem his father's "failure" to "go to Bagdad".
Some has been written this time around about Senator Dodd running to redeem his father's failure-ethical lapses- and Governor Romney running to redeem his father's failure-his brainwashing comments.
The press has been nibbling around the edges of Hillary running to redeem Bill and herself. That story, however, is the most intriguing of the bunch.
In addition, an article written about all of these "redemption" runs would probably convince us that voters should never vote for a presidential candidate who is related to a president or presidential candidate. I think with just my information it is fair to say that redemption runs lead to poor judgment in the political decisions of a campaign and in presidential decisions, clouding both. An experienced political writer or writers would be able to fully research and present clearly the results of that research.
I think that Hillary Clinton would still be leading if Bill Clinton had been kept in the background. What I am seeing and what I believe the press is starting to report is that Hillary's race is all about Bill redeeming Bill and Bill's legacy and Hillary redeeming Bill, Bill's legacy, and Hillary's legacy. Obama and Edwards have been clearly stating for a long time that their presidential race is about America or about the middle class or about the other America, not about them. Hillary in NH is just starting to say that her race is not about her. But she just said that the race for her is very personal, suggesting policy but in reality much more telling.
Can someone explain what he means by 'votes counted 5xs'. Where is he getting that from? I thought caucuses are not based on the exact numbers, but based on percentages.
The former president is right on this one ... This casino caucus arrangement is pretty slimy. It definitely creates an unfair advantage over non-casino workers and voters. Please, Nevada, there's got to be a better way to run a democracy.
Don't like to see Clinton all fired up, but who else is going to shine a light on this strange arrangement. Somehow the media just seems to take it for granted.
I don't understand what Clinton meant by the votes being counted 5 times? Is he solely talking about the ease of the Culinary Union to vote or do some votes have more weight than others?
Clinton: Liar liar pants on fire!
And the raised voice was when, exactly? Or the combativeness? I'm not sure if I see either one in this clip.
WHO cares what Bill says or does...obviously not his spouse.
Speaking of Bill Clinton's legacy, does anyone remember the Cox Report of 1999 (www.house.gov/coxreport)? VERY interesting reading.
You go Bill! I am so sick of the media ignoring all the real issues (war criminals in the white house, mortgage crisis, crumbling roads and bridges) while playing obvious politics against Hillary's campaign. It's so clear that the media, including CNN, has a very strong bias against Ms. Clinton, apparently they are worried they might have to start paying their taxes again.
I am an Obama supporter, voted for Bill and still like Mr. Clinton. But Bill is Bananas! If this was such a major issue it would have been addresed sooner. I can only imagine this suit wouldn't have taken place if Senator Clinton received the endorcement. I don't know or care if the Clintons are behind it, but their major supporters in NV are. I have almost always voted in schools and I have NEVER heard this crap before. Get over it, no one said they were all going to cast their votes for Obama, free will is still alive and its a 3 person race...
Bill take a valium, calm down and SHUT UP!
duh, I want to go vote where my vote counts as 5 votes instead of just one. Sorry Bill but never ever will I believe the guy that said on National TV "I did not have sex with that girl". Nice trying to pay back Hilliary all the disrespect you showed her but it Ain't working here Buddy.
Get's heated? This is going off on a reporter? Man, these whimps should come to some of my families political discussions. We'd melt their ears.
bill pipe down what are you thinking about ? hillary needs to fire you prompto
Just watched the video. To suggest that Clinton is "lashing out" or raised his voice seems to be a real media whine in this case. This story is very unfair. And it seems that reporters these days have very week backbones and thin skins.
YOU CALL YOURSELF A FAIR AND BALANCE NEW STATIONS. WHERE IS EDWARD AND WHERE OBAMA. TO THE OBAMA SUPPORTER IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO HERE ABOUT BILL AND HILLARY YOU SHOULD WATCH OR READ ABOUT THEM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE FOR YOU TO SPEND YOUR TIME ON.
Hillary's new campagne slogan:
*HILLARY*
what Barack said
I can't take credit for that one, Colbert Report.
CNN's Alexander Mooney and Rebecca Sinderbrand- please take yur grade 10 english class again so you are able to report the story with correct description.
CNN- are you really hiring high school drop out for these non-sense blogs.
Does ANYONE actually believe that Billary had nothing to do with this lawsuit?!? Is it simply a coincidence that the Teachers Union files suit only after the Culinary Workers Union endorses Obama?!? Please... if anything Billary should be challenging the lawsuit for DISENFRANCHISING Nevada voters... I guarantee that they would have had the situation been reversed...
If Obama loses the Democratic Nomination it will be only because he hasn't taken a lesson from the "Bible of Dirty Campaign Trickery" authored by the Clinton Political Smearing Machine, Inc…. seriously folks, will we ever elect a president that wins without having thrown the most mud?!?! I HOPE that the message of HOPE wins the day for once in our nations history, and that we finally kick the fear card to the curb…
Barack is the inspirational leader our country so desperately needs. Ask yourself this question: when was the last time a President of the United States of America inspired ANYBODY? JFK?!? Certainly not in my lifetime...
OBAMA '08
exactly who believes anything clinton – the perjurer -as to say!
let's talk about sandy berger...the documents he stole from the national archives – which shoved down his pants and destroyed..the guilty verdict....the $50K fine...the three year suspension of security clearance (yes – folks -thats right – the man who should be in jail for is given a suspension!!!)....and now sandy is working on "billary's" campaign!
GO AWAY CLINTONS! YOU'RE NOT WANTED HERE!!!!
Some of you people should read what you write and then have a good, healthy laugh. The Clintons are attacked at every turn. What do they do? Stand up for themselves and state the facts. They are constantly under scrutiny because they are the "Rock stars" of this election cycle. Bill is a former 2-term President. OF COURSE they're going to be more open to attacks and I commend them for standing their ground. You people can keep ranting, but as I've said before, Hillary's supporters are the only people I see being constructive and civil on these boards. We state the facts and are prepared to back them up. We don't need to diminish your candidates to feel good about ours. You are all so textbook.
I'd buy Bill's argument a whole lot more if this lawsuit had come, say, anytime between August and when Obama got so much union support.
The Clintons, as well as the teacher's union, knew about these rules long before Obama was backed by his various unions. The fact that the lawsuit only came after is a little more than suspicious timing...
Way to blow things out of proportion again, CNN. Raised voice, huh?
Bill and HIll their true colors coming out slowly but surely. They can not let it go of power, and will do anything to maintain the status quo. Bill let it go_ we know you like attention but please.
I just want to know if it is Bill and Hill on the ballot or if it is : bill or just Hill?
We are all watching what these (Bill & Hill) two are trying to do
it isa shame that they are so low so low.
Evangelina
Why do ALL the Clinton supports BLAME others. It's ALWAYS Obama's fault or the Media fault, or Santa's fault...
This is the freaking problem with American LACK of personal responsiblity (like the housing market...you DESERVE to lose your house, if you were retarted enough to THINK your income would rise 30% in two years, I didn't buy a home because I use my brain!)
I am NOT blaming the Clintons for this latest election drama (although it was a Clinton supporter who brought the suit).
I just read some of this stuff above, you have one crazy saying this is Obama's trick, one who keeps calling Obama a Muslim (which is not only untrue but a sick scare tactic.) Why don't we all try to be objective and lets include Mr. Edwards in the coverage.
I AM an Obama supporter, but I too adore Mr. Edwards message and PRAY its either Obama or Edwards...or better yet Obama/Edwards (at this point I don't care who leads). Just not Billary Clinton! ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
Bill Clinton is the world's biggest hypocrite and phony. Bill, you are ruining your wife's campaign everytime you open your mouth. You are yesterday's news, so please do us all a favor- disappear.
Sorry Bill. Guess their's one judge that you don't have in your pocket. Maybe you should have let him stay in the Lincoln Bedroom.
Ive always Admired Bill Clinton regardless of his reputation NOT HILLARY.
These days.................im very very suspicious of the Clintons...................
HOw could any clear thinking american fall for the games the Clintons play.
Its obvious a theatrical act for the clueless and naive and a carnival for the cautiousless.
Bill, control yourself! Down...Down...and put that back in your pants. We've talked about that in the past.
GO Bill! GO Hillary!
I LOVE you both and I'm VOTING FOR HILLARY!
Someone has to stand up to the press and all their CLINTON-BASHING!
Does everyone KNOW that most of these CULLINARY WORKERS are ILLEGALS, and should NOT be ALLOWED to VOTE!
Dear Clintons,
By having your name as the only viable name at our most recent Michigan Caucus, you have shown us your low point in integrity. Then, when you attacked the reporter crying about fairness, you use a figure of 5 times the votes?
Wasn't placing Hillaries name on the ballot a means to gain 5 times the exposure over ALL of the other Democratic Candidates?
You have sickened me, and the DNC, I believe.
No, you can not have your house back. It will go into foreclosure January 1st, 2009 in the hands of a more "trusting" candidate.
And if the caucus was being held in a school I'm sure the Clinton's would be providing buses to ensure that every Democrat's vote counted equally. Puhleeze.
In fact, Bill Clinton's vote is worth 20,000 times* more than the average American citizen because he is a super-delegate at the convention.
Please spread this message:
On January 16th, Bill Clinton said that this is a "one man, one vote country"... even though his own delegate vote is worth more than 20,000 times* that of the average American.
Obama and Edwards have both done a great job of bringing attention to the issue of lobbyists, but none of the candidates have addressed the fact that political insiders control nearly 40% of the delegates needed to win the democratic nomination**.
All of the candidates need to pledge to only accept the Democratic party nomination if they win the popular vote.
Spread the word.
A fair election hangs in the balance.
Andy Woerner
Kailua-Kona, HI
*assumes there are 70 million registered democratic voters being represented by 3,253 pledged delegates.
**based on approx 800 superdelgates of the approx 2,000 total delegates needed to win the nomination
I have tremendous admiration for President Clinton and Senator Clinton. They must love this country very much to put up with the constant harassment from the media that they do. You can't blame them if they occasionnaly finally get upset or cry a little.
So, the article states "Clinton said in a raised voice" and "as aides pulled him away" but the video clearly shows neither happened. He didn't raise his voice at all, that's a normal speaking volume for anyone...nobody touched him to pull him away. Is CNN just so used to BS'ing people they do it on autopilot now?
CNN: Why was my comment never posted? It wasn't offensive and there have been plenty of pro-Clinton postings? Why aren't you allowing all the pro-Obama postings be posted? More evidence of the hypocrisy of the Clinton News Network!
Bill Clinton is right, and I saw the video, and he sure was not combative. Remember it was Teachers that brought this suit, Get your facts straight!! Besides what makes you think everyone in the Culinary Union are Dems. Get ready for Madame President!!! Love you both.
This is getting ridiculous! Obviously America is not ready for an inexperienced Mulato who goes to a Black Liberation church, a more experienced woman with a former president for a husband or a trial lawyer who shouts populist rhetoric but lives way above all the people he claims to be concerned about. America probably isn't ready for a Morman or a Southern Baptist either. That leaves Rudi,
McCain, Thompson or an Independent. Way to go America. You are narrowing the field!
ONCE AGAIN, BILL CLINTON IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
WHAT A VOTING TURNOUT WE WOULD HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
IF EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CAST THEIR VOTE IN THEIR
WORKPLACE. KW, NJ
Oprah left after a couple days and left a good impression on Obama. Bill's still around causing more damage to Hillary. Good strategy Hillary, your experience shines and I can see your own voice finally, but.... it's a mirror reflection.
The downward spiral continues!
Maybe Bill is ruining Hillary's chances on purpose. Imagine what it must be behind the scenes when someone doesn't bring him a cheese burger fast enough!
At least the Daily Show won't have to rely too much on writers...
Combative? Come on! The press has given the Clintons such an unfair shake. They have tried to back Hillary into a corner with pointed and trick questions. Even Tim Russert, whom I used to think was pretty fair, attempted to do the same at the Nevada debate. Why didn't he press Obama about his pushing the race card which he denied on Sunday and then admitted during the debate? Is this what we can expect if Obummer becomes President? No tough questions since it it might be construed as rascist? I will never vote for anyone who plays the race card just as I would never cast a vote for a Republican who runs a campaign on fear and hate. You may not like them but the Clintons are the best thing that has happened to this country in decades. BTW- thank you conservative Republicans for giving us the absolute worst president ever- GWB!
Go Hillary!
Hillary and her camp agreed to the set up back in August. Then her supporters file a lawsuit when they find out the people affected don't support their belief Hillary is the best candidate. typical democratic tactic, if you don't like the rules try to change them to get what you want.
How is this different than not requiring id to vote. Same person could vote multiple times under assumed names.
caucus = fraud you are exactly right, considering in states like nevada up 20% of the service industry is illegal immigrants, is that really who we want deciding who our nominee is?...and then you have people defending this, why wouldn't you want them to have to show a form of ID– who do you think is voting have you ever been in a kitchen people? This is so classic as to the direction our country is headed. It doesn't take a genious to realize that if Obama has the support of the Culinary Unions and the caucus are held at the casinos GUESS WHAT? he'll win those seats easily based on a portion of the population that is not representative of the voting public in Nevada–does this sound rationally fair to anyone?-Obama would want this challanged if he were in the reverse position (and he rightly should if he were in that position) so stop claiming Bill is crazy for stating what is clearly unfair. By the way i am not supporter of either, look at who is funding their Campaigns–Obama –Goldman Sachs -C'mon! Edwards is the only one who speaks to the majority of the population, not white, not female, not black –the all encompassing middle class.
I think the solution to this lawsuit is not to remove the special work place caucus areas but to expand the program to include everyone possible.
Sounds like Bill has it right. The press can get the focus wrong and miss critical details of a story. At least this gets out the needed clarification.
Bill showing his infamous true colors as always. He looks like death warmed over. What goes around comes around, and they'll see that in about 11 months when someone else is elected President, and it won't be Hilliary. Go back to sleep til this campaign is over please...........
I bet these are the SAME democrats who despise Republicans and President Bush and have been praising Slick Willy for years. Now they've found themselves a liberal and all of a sudden, the Clintons are on the defensive for once. Word of advice – If I were you, I wouldn't waste your vote on Obama because I am fairly certain that most of the country is not going to vote for a liberal with ZILCH experience. You'd have more of a chance voting for Hillary or Edwards. Duh.
My Fellow Democrats,
Wake up and smell the coffee you liberal pansies! Do you really think that the Rove-Publicans are going to simply step aside come November and "play nice" with a new Democratic President?
The Clintons have fire in their belly, they have gone to to toe with Pubyas and won at every turn which fires me up as a Democrat! The political arena is exactly that... it requires battle in the bloodies back rooms and in the dark corridors of Washington.... we all know that... UNLESS you are one of these utopian society geeks that believes in the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and fairy tales. Sending a young, inexperienced lamb into the lions den will only land another Pub in the White House the next go around. We have the opportunity to have a Democrat in office for the NEXT FOUR TERMS if we play our cards right... Hill for Eight and Obama for Eight... Would that not be great? Get some backbone and get someone in there now that has experience in the fight... then, after Obama has a little time under his belt he will hold his own in due time. Go Dems 08'!!
Joelene Reno, Nevada – Thanks for speaking up here. No Dem knew what they were getting into when voting for this change and instead of including more people in the caucus, this has made it more exclusive.
As for the video, Bill was standing his ground and stating the facts. When will you people get over yourselves? Prove to me that he was being hostile or overly aggressive. I know a thing or two about psychology and from what I saw, he is a man who wanted to set the record straight and avoid dancing around the issue. With anyone else, this would be exactly the interpretation, but because some of you don't like Bill, he's being combative. Pitiful.
I must say the American media thoroughly enjoys blowing things out of proportion with their excessive and bloated vocabulary use. Clinton "lashes" out at the media. If you guys can seriously call that an angry rampage, I'd love to see how you would react to true emotional outbursts given by politicians in other countries. Try sitting down in a parliament, or the House in your case, and listen to how politicians speak. Clinton is one of the few American politicians with widespread support in Canada simply BECAUSE he has an ability and the indifference to speak his mind. It really means something to the public when politicians can demonstrate they are humans as well.
Cheers,
Russell Cooper
Halifax, NS, Canada
Bill is right. The change was unfair. It's obvious Obama couldn't win under the old rules, so he had them changed in his favor. Now, who's Slick?
As Bill was being carried off, he yelled "Don't tase me bro, don't tase me!"
Steven Klein,
You are absolutely correct. You should start your own blog.
I couldn't have said that any better.
S. Williams, Tampa...Thank you. I don't think we can even imagine all the trouble Bill will get himself, Hillary, and our country into if he gets himself back into the White House. With him and Hillary there, the Republicans (if they have 41 Senators) will go awol. What Hillary still has no grasp on is that the change Barack is talking about isn't just in new laws and policies, but in attitude, reconciliation after the Bush years, the end of red and blue states, the end of Rovian politics, and a pullback from what we have had for eight years...a "civil war" without guns. If Hillary is elected, this "war" will intensify, with her ruling the 50% of the people who support her, and the other 50% turning their back on her. If Obama is elected, we have a chance, just a chance, but still a chance to bring peace to this country and then to the world. I lived through the 60s, the assasinations, the polarization, the "America, Love it or Leave it." And I can tell you the last eight years have been worse. I used to have pride in my country, and when I traveled abroad, I was respected, as all Americans were. Now, my step son, who is in the Air Force, tells me he can't get served in a restaurant in Europe when in uniform, he and his friends are spat upon. I believe Barack can change that. But we need to keep the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton geneeration from happening...and then there is another eight years of Jeb Bush in the waiting. Please, Democrats, even though it is time for a woman to be President, not this woman. It is also time for a person of color to be President, and please, this is the one. Remember...Moses was the deliverer of the slaves from Egypt...and Barack (whose name means Blessed in Hebrew and Arabic) can deliver this country from itself. And put Bill back in history...where he belongs. Back to the Future was a movie...let's not make it a reality.
Please note, the article says Bill's wife’s campaign had "nothing to do" with the lawsuit. However, in the actual interview Bill said "I had nothing to do with that lawsuit." Therefore, he achieved his objective in classic Clinton style. He conviced CNN his wife's campaign was not involved, while he really only said he was not personally involved, thereby, maintaining plausible deniability for his own involvement.
Remember, this is the guy who knows what the meaning of "is" is.
Pretty slick, don't you think?
You ever see Anger management? When Adam Sandler is on a plane and is acting quite calmly, and the flight attendant is screaming at him to calm down? That's just what is going on here. CNN, quit trying to make news. Just report it. I saw a man making a rational argument, who never once raised his voice and never once got flustered. It's so sad that I can get better more well rounded campaign coverage from The Daily Show, and even more sad, my Canadian news organizations.
CNN, report, don't create, for the last time. Seriously.
That was "lashing out"? I think he was simply responding to an accusatory tone for a reporter. Besides, people...Hillary has alot of support amongst Hispanic culinary workers who make up the majority of this group. Hey, we'll take their vote x 5!
Hillary '08
I did not have sex with that woman ...
I had nothing to do with that lawsuit.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
You hear so much about the Clintons because CNN's articles on the Clintons are all negative articles with CNN's anti-Clinton spin on it! Have you noticed that they have a huge announcement for every new celebrity or politico supporter for Obama.but not for Clinton?
CNN: Where is the article about Obama claiming that Regan was effective leader but not Clinton? The Republicans must love that! Regan was a president who was not for the middle class but for corporations. He believed in that trickled down effect. Wow, it is really working now! Not only are the corporations not trickling down the decent wages and benefits to their workers but are taking their jobs away from them and outsourcing them to China and India (thanks to a tax credit to corporations from George W Bush).
Do you know who campaigned for Obama when he ran for senator in Illinois? Bill Clinton. He helped him become a senator; and if Obama didn't get elected, he wouldn't be running for President. Who would elect a state senator for President?
Obama supporters, CNN loves your candidate!
CNN, you and Rush Limbaugh have so much in common,
Billary Billary Billary,
Don't worry about all those union jobs in Nevada. Those folks had no intention of ever voting for Hillary. You see, union people have not forgotton the sins of your administration, you know, the NAFTA thing you signed.
Well Bill, I lost my job with the auto industry and I'm still looking with others for that "service Industry job that you promised. Go union, go Obama
un-real! some of you suggesting Pres. Clinton wants a heart attack to get sympathy votes? who are you people? Al-Queda? I don't hold any regards for Dick Chaney, but I would never suggest he would try to get a heart attack for sympathy! he is a passionate man, with a reporter that got in his face, tempers will fly and this is a very tight and contested race. but some of you should be ashame, these are good people, sacrificing a lot in the hopes of helping ALL americans. you don't like Sen. clinton, then don've vote for her, but do not try pushing your candidate down my throat like he is the next king! this is America last I check and elections do matter and issues matters and experience matters!
Can you please not delete this?
Bill is slowly losing it as Hillary's attack dog He is bullying and finger wagging his way back into the White House so his wife can keep her softer side in play. They both feel so entitled and it shows. People want change they can believe in not the Clinton tactics and status quo. His behaviour is demeaning of his presidential legacy. It is just plain wrong for Bill Clinton to defend anything that would disenfranchize voters.
Good Cop, Bad Cop
Dearest CNN,
I was thrilled to see the headline "Bill Clinton goes off on reporter". In fact, I was convinced that the story was going to discuss a Howard Dean-esque blowup (see: hilarious). Unfortunately, upon seeing the clip, I quickly realized that was not the case...
Do you really consider Clintons response to that question to be considered "visibly combative"? Oh please. I am disgusted by the hyperbolic nature of your "reporting". Re-evaluate what you release and get a grip on reality.
Until you do, I am perfectly satisfied spending my time on nytimes.com.
Cordially,
Mrs. Silence Dogood
Do you people not understand what he just said?
"disenfranchise voters"
Yea, sure...would you be whining if they placed voting booths outside of doctor's offices to allow the doctor's to walk right out and vote, and allowed their votes to count more than car mechanics, warehouse workers, fast food workers who had to leave their job and travel a few miles just to vote in the first place?
What part of Clinton's points did you people not get?
Clinton bashers...
1)Obama has the same voting record as Hillary
2)Obama has the same corporate contributors as Hillary
3)Obama just admitted he regretted allowing his campaign staff to push the race
card to media after a non-racist statement by Hillary.
UGHHHH
Aside from the accusations of bias which I am just sick of, can you imagine the assistants and Secret Service for Bill who have to pull him away from all kinds of situations? The Secret Service all probably pray Hillary doesn't make it. Then Hillary would say "You work for me now! Make sure Bill does not embarass my administration. Keep him away from the buffet and don't let any women within 100 yards of him good looking or not". He might be fun to hang with and talk to, but I would not want to be the guy charged with keeping him out of trouble....even though I like the guy.
To claim that these votes will be counted 5 times is truly an outrageous statement. How does Bill know who people will vote for? How does he make that calim and get away with it.
The caucus system is very imperfect. Voters have to publicly show support. That means there was always the possibility of a voter having to publicly go against the union.
This lawsuit at least gives the workers a chance to vote.
The system is not perfect but unfortunately it is too late to change it now.
I don't find Bill to be too terribly combative as suggested by the headline, but I must say, it seems that the Clinton campaign has more than their fair share of the "it's not fair", "I've been misrepresented", "they misquoted me", "it wasn't meant in that way" kind of moments. If your constantly correcting folks as to your intent then I think there is something wrong with the messenger. I like Bill, but I really don't believe Hillary is ready or capable of being president at this time. Another time, another day perhaps.
Bill Clinton is the greatest living American today.
Why was this lawsuit not filed back in March of 2007 when the decision to have 9 addtional sites on the Las Vegas Strip made? Its been 10 months and now you bring the lawsuit?!
Isn't it a bit ironic that this guy would be lecturing anyone about morality or legality after he disgraced the Oval office and then committed perjury.
Hey is Bill drinking moonshine out of a Jelly jar in this picture?
Bill you need to learn to shut up. Youu are the one who made Race a issue and then were shocked when they called you a racist. Now you get irate and upset that your wifes people are preventing clearly Obama supporters from voting and you still think it is a fair election.
It's not like Obama ran in a race all by himself and barely won like your wife did. His advisors did not get drunk and drive and somehow have the story supressed untill after the election. But sure go ahead and say the others are not playing fair. Sadly there are still Americans that believe your retarded logic and will vote for your shill of a wife.
Please America just don't vote for them. We need change in this country and we can not have it if we vote for the same old same old.
Anybody but Clinton.
Bill needs to understand that he is not the candidate. His hostility across the board merely shows his role as the hatchet man to keep Hillary looking nice.
Oh no! You mean, Bill Clinton gets angry?! What kind of human being gets angry?! That's it! I'm voting for John McCain!
When Billy was talking to reporters, it reminded me of when he looked into another reporter's camera while in office and said "I did not have se_ with that woman".
This is "lashing out" and "going off"? Hey, whatever gets people to visit the site. Who cares if it's sensationalism and not real journalism?
..so Bill gets a tad testy....Johnson apologizes...SO IS IT TIME FOR HILARY TO CRY???Same old tired playbook of dirty, sleezy tricks..
I agree with the earlier comments about the concern of what a H. Clinton cabinet would look like with Bill hovering about..as Biden said, Who would want to be VP with Bill around...one has to wonder whether there would be room for anyone else or for dissenting or critical voices....
For those people who have brought up voting in schools. I don't see the comparison to the casino's at large precincts. Teachers don't vote where they teach just because the school is a precinct. Also, teaching is a job where you can not " get away" from work for any reason because of your classroom. So caucusing would be impossible for this LARGE group of people. They are the disenfranchised voters but what else is new about the teaching profession?
How come anything the Clintons say thay get a bashing for it? Obama and his wife can say what ever it just goes with out any quistions being asked.The media takes everthing the clintons say and turn in obamas favor.Bill did not raise his voice in that vidio.DO THAY TAKE US FOR IDIOTS?????
Just a few days after the O's endorsement, then they decide file suit. Nough said. The fact that this law suit was politically motivated is without question. I'm amazed how people who claim to walk erect on two legs could believe otherwise.
You must have also believed Johnson when he said his remarks about O referred to his community organization activity.
You know, I have some property in Hawaii I think you would be interested in.
Pat Hunington is either dead wrong or lying. The rules were always this way and the Teacher's Union (supporting Clinton) was trying to get the rules changed after the game began.
I'm not form the U.S. so I'm impartial, and to me it appears that one segment of the Democratic voters in Nevada have been given an easier way to vote than the rest of the public. Make them vote in their own precincts as all voters should, or put voting caucuses in schools. Why pander to the Casino employees? Obvioulsy because one person running in the race has garnered the support of a very influential group of Casino employees. I thought Obama wanted to bring a new vision to Washington. This appears to be the same old type of thing done in old time politics.
No wonder the political system in the U.S. is falling apart. The Nevada Dem. Committee is just like the Florida crap from 2000. Slant teh voting in a specific direction.
Any possibility of Chads in Nevada?
This is patently unfair, but you can bet Chris Mathhews thinks it's just fine. I want to see him in the same room as Obama! He'll behave like a school girl and scream and pass out, then hope for a quick peck on the cheek between spits!
Maybe your country does need a 3 party system. The 3rd one always remains small, but helps keeps the others in check as their votes are needed to pass key legislation.
I didn't see the encounter as combative. A more appropriate phrasing would be aggressive approach to answering the question. Billy wasn't combative.
Regardless, the issue is mute at this point. A judge has decided Bill's take on the issue is incorrect. One point on the side of activist judges.
Boo Hoo everyone is out to get the Clinton's!
That was combative? That was someone having an opinion on something. If all disagreements in the world were conducted at that level of intensity, the world would be a much safer place.
I have watched all of your programs for quite some time now, but now everytime I switch to your channel I see Hillary and Bills face on rthe tv screen , or else SOME story about them. WHO CARES if she PLAYS FlighT ATTENDANt??? iS THAT NEWS? iT SEEMS MAYBE THEY ARE INTO YOUR POCKETS which wouldn't surprise me. I always thought your news channel was fair, but the Clinton's are really getting alot of "play" and it is becomming quite noticeable who gets the air time. Is it to keep the public's eye fixated on the two of them . You know there are other candiates out there. Also, most of your stories are POSTIVE in nature when it comes to those people (the Clinton's)
How many more years do you want this dynasty to run our govetnmrnt. It is disgustingIIIIII
The media have gotten out of control on this and other issues.
Why is everyone so hateful?
It's sickening.
Typical reporter...Would rather EXAGGERATE the truth, then report what truly happened. I watched the video and laughed. I also think that Mr.Clinton's response was appropriate. The only reason for this nonsense is because they can't deal with the fact that Mrs.Clinton actually has a good shot at winning this election. So they need to get over it!!
Pat Huntington NY,
Yeah. Bill is right! The changes are unfair to the Clintons who were canvasing hard for the Cullinary Union endorsement and almost had the initial decision to back Obama overturned.
Had she gotten the endorsement, nobody would have complaigned.
The Clintons are Cry babies. They think the presidency is owed to them and keep whinning all the time.
I dont think that anyone is trying to supress anyones votes. But it is not fair for caucuses to be held in one groups place of work, and not in another. Traditionally Caucuses are held in public buildings or private homes. Its also not fair for some peoples votes to count more, or have more "weight" than others. This is the root of this lawsuit. The current Democratic Party Caucus setup in Nevada is crooked and needs to be fixed. Casino workers should not have an easier time voting, or a more powerful vote than anyone else in Nevada.
This is to show you how far the clintons are ready to go to be president.those teachers union are stupid of even going to court for this.if the culinary workers union endoresed clinton I bet you all this will not be happening. It is because the backed obama instead of the clintons that is why the are mad.
I would have thought democracy is about facilitating as many people as possible to participate. If there are other groups in need of such facilities as the culinary workers their needs also should be attended to.
The clintons are salfish the more things are unfolding the more I come to hate them the think this is new england.
AND WE WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS CRAP! HE ACTS LIKE HE IS THE MAFIA! I BET THAT REPORTER WILL GET HIS KNEES CAPPED.
Obama is THE ONE!
This is an example of what is coming in this election obama will show them how to run an election.
THIS IS YOUR CAPTAIN SPEAKING – WE SEEM TO BE LOOSING ALTITUDE ON HIL-FORCE-ONE... MAY DAY MAY DAY.. PLEASE BRACE FOR A CRASH LANDING IN LAS VEGAS – MAY DAY MAY DAY.....
I dunno, he seemed to be responding like any normal guy would. This article headline is baloney.
Did half the people commenting on this actually watch the video. Bill Clinton did not lash out or get heated he directly answered the question which was from a reporter that seemed to want to make a name for himself. Once again pathetic reporting by CNN.Also please stop all the conspiracy theories, the rules are unfair look them up on the nevada democratic caucus website, the Clintons didn't bring the law suit, the teachers union brought the law suit. There must be 50 hours in the day if the Clintons are orchestrating all the actions they have been accused of. As for the poster that wanted to hear from the moral Michelle Obama you should take a look at some of her speeches and listen to some of the comments she has made about Hillary Clinton and other aspects of the race – I wouldn't call them moral!! If you want to debate about the issues then fine but stop these hateful personal attacks.
Bill before this union endorsed ANYONE. nobody said this would be a PROBLEM. So when the union decided to endorse Sen. Barack Obama Clinton supporters are CRYING LIKE THEY DO!!
Bill I honestly liked you during and after you were President but I am not really sure what has happen to YOU??? Mr. President please and I say this with every fiber in my body PLEASE leave your wifes' campaign you can't MAKE HER PRESIDENT.
Another phony story cooked up by CNN. Clinton isn't "lashing out " at all, and he does't "visibly get more upset." He's simply stating his opinion in a very stern manner, which he's done on numerous occasions. CNN's continuous hype of such stories to generate controversy where there is none smacks of daytime talk shows and Jerry Springer. It's pathetic, but it's what we now call Political Coverage.
"Get on your television station and say, 'I don't care about the home mortgage crisis, all I care about is making sure that some voters have it easier than others should count five times, and when they do vote, when its already easier for them, their vote should count five times as much as others,"
Another misleading statement from Bill. 6% of the delegates in the most populated area of Nevada. Hmm... five times more is embellishment at the least.
He should have said what he really felt. Get on your television station and say "I don't care about whether they get to vote or not because the Union has endorsed Obama, and that should not be allowed. Voters should not stand for anyone who decides to support a candidate other than my wife."
Next up from the Clinton's – The Nevada caucus doesn't matter and shouldn't count. They're all Obama supporters, and that do not follow the policy of my legacy. "
Get over yourself Bill. Her inevitable reign as the first female president will be decided by all voters, and not only the Clinton faithful.
Don't tell me the Clinton machine didn't know about the changes made in Nevada? It was only a problem when the Culinary Union decide to support Sen. Obama. When are people going to realize and wake up, the Clinton's are just as bad as the Bushes. Stop blaming the press for their constant negative spin. Its time for change!
Obama 08
Exact quotes from Bill Clinton:
"I did not have sex with that woman."
"I had nothing to do with this lawsuit.."
Begin to see a pattern here???
He wasn't even that upset. If you call that heated what do you call GW's speeches?
CNN can you PLEEEAAASEEE do a report about yesterday when Barack praised Ronald Raygun and said the GOP party had the most vision and inspiration over the last 10-12 years?
Thanks!
Exactly how is this "combative"?
I AM SICK SICK SICK OF ALL THIS CRAP...THIS REALLY TURNS PEOPLE AWAY FROM EVEN VOTING.....LMOORE
Pat, be aware that the rules are made by the Democratic Party following their own internal rules. Do us a favor and be informed, do not disgrace your self with ignorance. HRC, and her husband together with some ill-informed establishment personnel wanted to dis-enfranchise the Obama camp.......the truth has prevailed. Let's be grateful we live in a country where the law is the best arbiter.
President Clinton is right. I'm glad that he stood up to the media. The only divisiness in this campaign, and in this country is the media, and CNN leads the pact. The media is giving Obama a pass like they gave Bush. Senator Clinton is constantly attacked by the media on a daily basis. She deserves as much consideration and respect from the media as Obama does. At least we know she can endure the ridicule since the media has been trashing she and her husband since they came to Washington, DC.
The media failed to scrutinize Bush and look what we ended up with. Now, they're giving Obama a free ride, and we'll end up in the same place. Obama scares me worse than Bush did when he got elected and re-elected. They're both too idealistic.
CNN is so bias, and I say that with the utmost respect for the network. But, I tell you, lately, I have had to agree with that pompous Bill O'Reilly about the bias in the media. I never thought that would happen.
The more Hillary makes Bill make a fool of himself trying to get her elected is the more damage he is doing to his legacy and the more turned off voters are becoming by the desperation of the Clintons.
I think the Clintons have not only met their match in Obama, but Obama seems to have old political hands from the Democratic Party working with him against the Clintons.
This is going to get uglier before it gets more beautiful.
Vote Republican! Vote McCain-Giuliani!
And I am a Black New Yorker!
MR CLINTON WE ALL WENT TO SCHOOL ALL CANDIDATES WILL BE VOTED FOR, THEREFORE, THE COUNT WILL BE A MULTIPLE OF 5 AND PERCENTAGES WILL BE THE SAME, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS DIVIDE BY 5 IF THAT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
P.S... HOPE HILLARY DOESN'T WIN A BALLOT NOT YOU WILL SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
Stop harrassing the Clintons and fairly cover this election. The name calling on CNN=Politics, i.e., Pitbull is inappropriate.
Bill is right!! He should also have added that caucuses by design are basically undemocratic. There is no true democracy in USA. We use an outdated electoral college system.
Uh boy, for those Hillary supporters out there. Do you really want to see the Clintons on the tv again? Jeesh, I was kind of hoping those days were over...
This is old news! Must be a slow day for CNN. How about we talk about the issues??
I'm surprised Bill-ary's rising anger hasn't been more of the focus by the media. This is a guy who used to be unflappable on the campaign trail. Now he's lashing out at everyone. He's like my cranky Grandpa!!
It's only a matter of time before HE breaks down and cries, effectively ending his – I mean Hillary's! – bid for the White House. Wouldn't THAT make for delicious news coverage!!
He's the only presidential hopeful's spouse that is always in the news defending and fighting for the candidate. Is that how it will go when she's president? It's so true that we're voting for Bill more than Hillary.
Whats the big deal? I hardly call that going off on a reporter, he merely argued his point. Thats not a raging uncontrolled fit of anything.
Why are my comments deleted? Has the CNN media been paid the same ones who paid OPRAH to back up Obama?
Pat Huntington NY January 17, 2008 3:36 pm ET
Bill is right. The change was unfair. It's obvious Obama couldn't win under the old rules, so he had them changed in his favor. Now, who's Slick?
ha weird you say that as the rules were made in march 07 by the democratic party leaders (not obama), and since then hrc didnt complain, now obama gets the endorsement of the culinary workers (a huge endorsement) and all of a sudden there is a problem, yeah theres only a problem when the hrc camp dont have their way!
The under handed methods & slimey intimidation, I assure you is by the Culinary union in las vegas
I have asked why this stroy is not being covered for 3 days straight & my comments have been blocked.
This caucus is like something you would expect to see in some 3rd world country
Please understand, if you are culinary & working saturday only Obama supporters are allowed
No wonder Bill is mad-we are embarrased & disgusted with the way this caucus has been handled in Las Vegas.
Only the negative Clinton comments are posted here
Has everybody forgotten the incident with White House Travel?
Are our memories so short that they do not remember White Water,
Health Care Platform in Hillary's first year as the first Lady?
No questions have been ask as to what she has done for the state of NY, I would say nothing..... Hillary can't brag about her leadership in the state of NY, so how do you ever think she will lead the country? I think the term "SLICK" is more in tenor with Hillary.
Question?
The news media talks about Huckabee and his Christian faith and Romney and his Mormon religion. Why does no one mention Obama and his Islamic background?
It is very sad that so many are so ignorant. Understand who's side the media is on....it is quite tilted and they take any opportunity to scrutinize the Clintons. He did what any one of you would have done, but he shouldn't have to defend ignorance. I just hope they can stop taking the bait.
Hillary 08
Obviously Bill wouldn't care about it if it didn't effect the caucus. You think Bill Clinton has enough free time on his hands to be fighting the good fight. No, he's running a sleazy campaign. So is every politician, at all times. They are never fighting the good fight, just running sleazy campaigns to keep their power. Do away with campaigns and we can finally let our leaders LEAD.
BUSH/CHENEY 08
Mr. Clinton is a man of tricks. He knows them all! He even foolled that NY senator.... It´s about time someone come and floss Mr. Clinton´s memories of faulty behavior, that was only forgiven because we all konw why. She´s in the race since then. Wake up USA!
LOL @ Pat Huntington....the rules were made in March of 2007....I have never seen so many people distort reality.
Obama08
WOW USING CAPS MAKE ME LOOOK LIKE IM ON CRAZY PILLZ
Pat H., Have you been drinking again? Obama "changed" the rules?? that's beyond stupid. Check your facts before you let that garbage out of your mouth.
Maybe if the Clinton's knew then what they know now...oh, that might require them to have good judgment, and actually read something instead of hearing it second hand like them claim. What’s next “I didn’t know that red button shoot missiles at people, I thought it was how to call for housekeeping.” She says she stands for change, but taking away peoples legal right to vote is not the change we as Americans are talking about. No thanks Clintons. Obama 08
Wow, these blogs are FUNNY. So many smart people out there. Why are you all not running for President? You seem to know it all. Just choose your candidate and be done with it. Hillary...I am STILL voting for you. And yes I still remember what Bill Clinton did as President. There were plenty of jobs and we had no deficet. What do we have today? Just vote, and for who you want. bye the way...I have always voted Republican...ALWAYS. Get the picture.
the article itself is accusatory. clinton appears completely level-headed and CORRECT in the vid. visibly combative?!? he's completely on point.
I agree Steven Klein.....The Clintons have an agenda and I think if the voters elect them there opportunity to put that agenda in place is going to place the US in a very bad situation.
We are in a recession, no one is saying it right now. The feds dropping the rate is not going to help any. The Clintons in office will be terrible for us.
People need to do everything they can to know about those people, they are terrible people.
I believe Bill Clinton is right. I think the spin has been put on the Clinton's for awhile. All the media hype about race is a bunch of garbage. I have not heard anything from Bill or Hillary's mouth that stated anything about race. I think Americans should wake up and use some common sense and vote for a person that has experience and has been committed to the majority for a long time. ENOUGH WITH THIS SO CALLED RACE ISSUE. Our country is desperate for CHANGE however, Obama is not the one who can make those changes in the mess this country is in. When Bill was in office our economy was doing fine and people were working. Hillary was the only person who tried to tackle our healthcare issue and was shot down . GO HILLARY! YOU HAVE MY VOTE!!!!
More illegals voting-–democracy-bull!
this is like "Short Attention Span Theater" now instead of discussing the qualifications of these candidates we' re discussing when a reporter has a bad day or when a former President has a bad day. Why don't people focus on the records of a candidate – say, RudyGuliani, having reduced crime by over 50% in NY and compare it with what Hillary did in NY. What has she done for NY other than raise taxes of successful people? Is cnn interested in getting discussions such as this started?
Well at least we didn't have to wqrry about Bull being the lawyer in the suit since he's disbarred.. He might want to read up on the 22nd amendment in his spare time too.
YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS! HELLO AMERICA, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA. STOP AND THINK FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF LETTING YOUR OPINIONS AND EMOTIONS GET IN THE WAY.
THE DECISION WAS MADE LAST MARCH TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO GO TO CASINOS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT LAST MARCH WOULD BE BEFORE LAST WEEK RIGHT??? THEREFORE, THERE IS NO WAY OBAMA CAN BE DOING ANYTING SNEAKY. NO ONE WANTS TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE TEACHER'S UNION DECIDED TO FILE A LAWSUIT 2 DAYS AFTER OBAMA GOT THE ENDORSEMENT.
COME ON PEOPLE.... EVEN IF YOU SUPPORT HILLARY, AT LEAST BE HONEST ABOUT THE SITUATION.
Media jerks trying to cross the line to MAKE NEWS vs. reporting it, finally get their wings clipped. Bill Clinton is so clear and articulate, and his "clarification" / confrontation with the reporter was right on. Hope the reporter learned NOT to mess with persons on top of their issues.
Former President Bill Clinton, who presided over arguably one of the most enjoyable, peaceful, progress-filled decades in American history, has a brilliant intellect and mind. And he's human enough to stand up for his passions and beliefs.
But nevermind that. I'll be voting for
Hillary Clinton for President
because she's the first bonafide qualified woman in the history of this country to get a legitimate chance to become our president and she will be a very, very fine president and world-class world leader if we are intelligent enough and wise enough to vote her into office, so
it doesn't matter what Bill, a guy, and sometimes a pain-in-the-arse, though a fantastic American president who gave us absolute paradise on earth compared to the Hell we have had the last 8 years, says,
because it's Hillary whose got the goods and the one that we need. GO HILLARY!
"The Clintons are dinged and danged and harrassed at every turn"
What a joke, IT IS NOT PEOPLE HARRASSING THE CLINTONS,
they are doing it. both husband and wife have sleepless nights. they want to get into white house by all means. hope people do not get into that evil trap. when she talks it will be always negative about, Obama, Edwards ,all other Republicans and BUSH. They didn't even leave MLK.
Did any one heard that they praised any one except the washingtom lobbist ?
Just for a second, every one think. Forget she is a women and clintons wife. Did she had a good judgements ? did she accomplished anything ? discus this?
The video and the text story are both examples of bad journalism; they don't tell us what the question was, nor the tone of the reporter's question. How do we evaluate Bill Clinton's response when half the story is left out?
This is amaturish trash.
An in the interest of full disclosure, the Obama sign on my lawn will tell you who I'm supporting.
~~~~~ You have to be kidding me! Bill's comments were far from combatitive. The media is turning this entire run into a circus show... When the media backs a person for president, it is completely obvious! It's the media that has acted combatitive with every step of the way being a negative comment against the Clinton campaign. What's SAD is some Americans fall for this type of media exaggeration. What is WORSE is the media is turning Democrats against one another. ~~~~~
It the judge hadn’t ruled for Obama he would be using that race card again.. So in my opinion the judge was afraid of being call a racist. Obama was counting on this.
Great going CNN, you have shown so much bais against the Clintons that you can now count on 8 viewers after the elections, down from your usual 8 and 1/2. Why, you were so boring and so under the radar that you needed the Clintons to awake your montononous drone!
Great
Now the Democrats worry about voter fruad. Where are they when a state wants to require a picture ID card? Before you answer this work a polling place like I have for the last few years. You would be schoked at what goes on, who asks for help in voting, who openly shouts- Who am I supposed to vote for?, the guy who clearly has shown up in multiple places. etc. etc.
Bill, PLEASE FIX THE ECONOMY.
All these idiots that voted Republican and gave Bush two terms so he could really screw up the country, don't know what they're are talking about...
Who cares where they vote,all we care about is that people are given their right to vote.Why didn't the Teachers Union put voting machines at schools if it's that important to them.Seems that some people don't want America's voice to be heard.
Wonder who that might be????????
Bill Clinton who cant define the word "is" also cant count. Last time I looked in the elementary math books, 1 is still equal to 1.
Bill Clinton isn't running for President! I think he should tone it down or he is going to cost Hillary the election!
California lady,
I sure am glad "they don't have nothing negative to go after him for!" What a relief!
you know, me personally, i think its sad.. im a big supporter of former president clinton. but the campaign methods of hillary are quite frankly sad to me. her campaign is doing their best to damage sen obama's integrity but at the same time try and seem morale about it.. im tired of reading about all the shots they take at sen obama then release a letter of apology afterwards.. i must have read about 5 or 6 letters of apology issued by the clinton campaign since the race for white house began. what i think they are doing is sending a pop shot out and letting it spread around because once its out you can't control it... then so they dont look bad try to issue some kind of letter of apology or something of that sort to minimize the backdraft effect of what has happened. dont try and win the white house by just damaging your opponents credibility, try and win the white house by showing and assuring the american people that you are whats best for this country and this point in time.
Teachers do not work on Saturdays...
So what's the uproar?
Las Vegas is a city that employs many casino workers...like my uncle Charles
He works 24/7 at a major hotel...he said he as voting Clinton...yet...look at this reaction...
I am voting Obama...
Who cares about old Slick and the witch. They can't control the voting. Oh boo hoo...
My land, some of you folks sound like you're auditioning for a part in a soap opera!! Get a grip!!
As long as we have 24-hour news channels there will be untrue, unfounded attacks on people. The Clintons are a good example of that. These channels need something to fill their time slot and something, whether true or not, is better than nothing!
Their decision not to scrutinize Edwards or Obama speaks volumes. The 'good old boys network' and sexism is alive and thriving!!!
HAILARY 2008
From the outset of Hillary Clinton's bid for office, even a whiff of voter interest in an opposing candidate was instantly laughed out of the room. Other candidates were largely ignored and muted for months and months as they toiled in the shadows of the bullying Clinton apparatus. Now that the Clinton aura of inevitability has worn tired and thin, the Clintons have begun to show their true colors. Attacks, distortions, Bill's bi-weekly tirades, flawed analogies, etc. These are the hallmarks of Clintonian divisiveness.
CNN = 'Clinton News Network' and very bias !!!
To Pat Huntington NY-
It was the Democratic Party that set the rules up MONTHS ago – not Senator Obama. You should get your facts straight before calling anyone 'slick'.
Obama/Edwards '08
Anyone But Clinton
The media like CNN & Fox are simply politicalized by money and influence by SIGs. The victims are the candidates and the public.
Be wise and do something for a better tomorrow!!
Willie has aways been a loser and a buffoon. Now this is another example of a fat mouth who never gets attention because he deserves none and believe me if his phoney wife gets the nomination and selects him as her running mate, there will be blood in the streets. Clinton ranks as the next worst President second only to James Carter. When will His Majesty of Perjury ever go away?
It is becoming clearer every day that Mr Clinton wants to get back into the White House so bad that anything goes.
Am really angry at BOB johnson of BET this guy does not know what is taking about putting a brother down like that on national tv he need a reality check.Pls dont speak for any african american, speak for yourself. we appeciate Obama and obama knows who he is, where he came from . Go and watch roots again or how much did clinton family promise you.
I believe it's an attempt by the Clinton Campaign to keep Obama at bay. This is raelly childish. The Clintons need to get their act together. She's still leading by 3 points, but I believe people are tired of these games she's playing. Stop acting like a child or cry baby to get people to vote. Obama is a candidate from the heart!!!!
The clip on CNN is a small snippet. Check the New York Times, the ful clip is posted there!! He is irrate!!! Its actually quite hilarious, but once you realize he is serious its actually quite sad and dissappointing.. Moreso, the fact that Hillary's campign "remains nuetral" against the lawsuit when its a direct hit against the act of voting (a fundmental piece of this country's democracy) speak VOLUMES!
Here are the facts:
1) These "at large" caucuses for democrats were decided upon TEN MONTHS AGO.
2) The Teacher's Union, whose leadership supports Hillary, only decided to file suit against this AFTER the Culinary Worker's Union came out in support of Obama.
Seems just a little too coincidental to me. The Clintons wouldn't be the least worried about 'fairness' if the Culinary Workers were supporting Hillary.
Just more dirty politics from the Clinton camp.
Why not disclose the identity of the reporter. Fair and balanced reporting would require such disclosure.
I am really sorry, but there is nothing here that is a display of "combativeness." Do you know what that word means? It's definition?
I was a nurse for 28 years. I worked in psych wards and Emergency rooms. There was a specific defintion for "combative." I was expecting a fist fight when I clicked on this.
Taking a firm stance is not the same as "combative."
Having read this report before viewing the video of the exchange between President Clinton and the reported, I think the character of the conversation has been misrepresented. I don't see evidence of visible upset or raised voices as alleged in the report. Certainly there was a disagreement about the propriety of the caucuses and the connection of the Clinton campaign with the lawsuit, but there does not seem to have been an altercation. Why, in the current climate, is everything blown out of proportion? Perhaps we should focus on the issues, rather than on gossip about transient exchanges.
Did you know Senator Obama is
Harvard Law School, J.D. 1991, Magna Cum Laude
President, Harvard Law Review
Illinois State Senator – 13th Legislative District, Chicago, 1996 – 2004
US Senator 2004-Present
Member Senate Foreign Relations Commitee,
Senate Commitee on Veterans' Affairs,
Senate Commitee on Health, Education, Labor, Pensions,
Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
OBAMA '08
Why can't the Democrats hold an election without ending up in court? And this fight is over the rules the Democrats themselves set when it was assumed Hillary was inevitable. With that plan derailed, Hillary will try to litigate her way into the White House. This is pathetic.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN NEVADA WHICH IS FAIR AND CORRECT. THANK YOU
Dear Friends:
Hope the earth quake does not happen as Roosevelt, Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Reagan, Kennedy,
Lincoln are turning over in their graves. Huckabee
seperation of religion and government a fine line.
creationism and evolution are they to be taught together apply these to stem cell reseach happenings in the news.
Stem cell two males well well well water clean, Go forth and do not procreat for the future of man is in a chosen society? Males two maybe body parts or drones!
Who's ancester are you from man, the ape, the frog, the fish, duck the internet is flying and throwing things and it may hit you? Out or hanging over the bridge a cliff hanger!!! Ram Romney in the knee for he hurt me!!!!! Bam Bam Obama for the message and injuries your group left me on the window of my automobile.
Run Run Run See Dick Run!!!!!!
Foreign nationals are more than we and they are trying to run the show endorsement for the invasian of illegal criminal artists cons, organized crime.
It's in the photo Romney nanotech you use throughout the world and your people sinister to infiltrate the government. Not in the USA!!!!1
Mortgage loss and down turn Bill is increasing and due to the jobs being lost.
Unemployement is rising and trust and heretage disappearing.
Stem the part of the whole plant those seeds for Liberty and freedom of religion and speech. MSN does not print items of conroversy they do not believe in freedom of speech, run by the Latinos that are here illegally in your head or bed they are the invaders of this time. Science is changing and we will and are paying.
For those of you who keep referring to the nineties need to wake up to reality. Those time are over, this is a new era with more troubles facing our nation. What may have worked back then surely is not going to work today. Besides that was Bill Clinton as our President not his wife. That doesn’t mean that she is going to be our answer to the problems we face in this day and age. Old politics don’t work anymore; eventually things must change if we are to grow as a nation to meet those new obstacles. So please stop thinking what once was will soon be.
New innovations, new technology, a new way of life, but all you seem to want is the same old practice of politics. I guess that’s why we are falling behind the rest of the world, because we think the old way is the best way. Have mercy on this country if we remain in that mind set. Times change as should people and our Government should as well if we are to survive.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM OF NEVADA. PLEASE LISTEN CAREFULLY THIS RULE WAS PASSED LONG TIME AGO, AND WHEN OBAMA BARACK GOT THE SUPPORT OF THE CULINARY UNION. THEY CHANGED THE RULE. IS THAT FAIR WHAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN DID.
BARACK IS A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN HE WAS BORN A CHRISTIAN LIKE YOU AND ME.
There is a very serious problem about ENDORSING a candidate in a caucus (show of hands) and then having the polling stations where the union employees work.
If this was a primary (private vote) it would be fine. It is a show of hands.
This idea having your employer 'endorse' someone -then stand there watching you vote is not democracy. The peer pressure to vote for the endorsed candidate isnt fair.
However, the POINT is that the Clinton and Obama campaign kept their mouths shut about it until one was endorsed. Then the other one complained.
So in that sense of fairness, the Clinton campaign should suffer. They didnt care how fair it was BEFORE Obama got endorsed.
I am surprised the judge didnt rule that the voters in the casino a private vote.
CNN look at your grass roots.....Do you think this is really a story...???? Maybe it is time to let some of the reporters with thin skins, enroll in a history class about the hard stories , the real stories, the real time reporters of CNN and what they say is NEWS !!!
Michael E. Rafey
Pat Huntington NY
"The change was unfair. It's obvious Obama couldn't win under the old rules, so he had them changed in his favor."
Who changed anything? These were the rules the DNC, supported by the Clinton campaign, agreed to in August '07. CAN YOU READ or is your reading comprehension just a little low...
OBAMA '08 ALL THE WAY!!!
The judge has ruled a go ahead so the discussion is closed for the Clintons.
You did not show the entire dialogue that occurred between Bill Clinton and the reporter. You did not show a sufficient amount of the dialogue to address the full issue. During the entire discussion the reporter continued to question Bill Clinton and made several very good points. Your clip is so short it distorts the debate and makes Bill Clinton look much better and more correct than he may be. I think the clip is biased in Clinton's favor. I believe CNN in essence insulted voters intelligence by restricting the debate. By the way, teachers do not work on Saturdays so they are free to vote, but the culinary workers would not be free to vote on Saturdays. I do not understand this debate. Everyone should be free to vote when they can. I am very, very disappointed in my teacher friends.
You know, I used to think Bill was a great president. But as this election progresses I see Bill as shrill and pathetic. Where does he come up with the "every vote will be equal to five votes" crap? Why does he inject the sub-prime mess into the discussion? To me, Bill's rant demonstrates his exasperation with the media. Why doesn't the media fawn over him anymore? Why doesn't the media treat him with high respect? Because his wife is the candidate, not you, Bill. Get over your feelings of self-importance. Let's all hope someone other than Hillary gets the nomination.
There was no change, all the campaigs agreeed to the rules months ago, why change them now....
As Bugs Bunny would say of Bill Clinton, "What a maroon!"
Bill needs to take a chill pill. He is more a liability than an asset to his wife's campaign. This lawsuit has succeeding in pissing off any casino workers who were undecided. The Clinton campaign has shot themselves in the foot again.
Obama takes the moral high road. CNN should highlight him more. Move the positive endorsement stories up in prominence. I tired of hearing about the mudslinging.
5 times as much!
5 times as much!
5 times as much!
Where does he get that number? And how does he justify the claim that this merely serves to facilitate the democratic vote for Obama, especially when Hispanics have already shown significant support for Clinton?
If the Clintons were so concerned, why waste the time filing a lawsuit, when they could have taken the same legal route taken by Obama to open up more polling stations to 'level the playing field'?
I'd say the Clintons just got outmatched by somebody they have been repeatedly degrading, citing both political inexperience and a lack of racial understanding on the behalf of Obama
Good grief, Slick Willy! Better luck next time, I guess!
GOBAMA!
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
where is the justice for ALL the people in nevada in their working sites????
I just watched the video of Bill Clinton engaging the reporter who was trying to make something out of nothing, related to the Nevada lawsuit/casino caucuses.
ALL CAPS ON-LINE IS RAISING YOUR VOICE. Bill Clinton DID NOT "raise his voice" at that reporter.
Your article presents a FALSE description of what went on.
The two writers of that article should be straightened out; their writing does not meet the standards (even what's left of them!) required of news reporters.
Let's pretend that Senator Clinton does get elected. Is Bill going to come running in every time she takes a hit, receives a complaint, doesn't get her way, is perceived as being treated 'unjustly' and 'unfairly' by anybody in the world? What about our own press? The Congress? The U.N. that she wants to turn all of our foreign relations matters over to? Is Bill going to get combative with anyone/everyone he feels is slighting her an any way? What a bunch of babies.
How many times has anyone ever seen another candidate 'break down' on the campaign trail? I guess it's all right since she's a woman. More equality.
Slick Willy at it again! If Bill would have had this type of passion about his wife in the 1980s and 1990s, he would have not been caught saying " I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN"!
Bill is getting to emotional. Not good for Hillary. She does and says enough on her own to discredit her views without Bill's outburst proving thier fustrations.
Wow, I'm no supporter of the Clintons, but characterizing that as "lashing out" is irresponsible journalism. He seemed pretty reasonable to me. But congratulations, you got me to click through to see "the heated exchange." More page views for CNN!
Who is running for President Hillary or Bill Clinton. If things dont go their way they use arogence, dirty pool and whatever means they can. I have bin on other blogs and noone has yet to answear where she got her 35 years of experiance? Where are the reporters on this one?Maybe with my 35 plus years as a housewife, mother, chief cook and botle washer maybe all woman can run for President . God bless all thos that are running . If Hillary was running fo dog catcher i would not vote for her . They brought shame to the White House . Remember the White House belongs to the people of the U.S.. Not for those when they leave office to take what they want and destroy things . Its the taxpayer who is paying for i. Go Obama
And he also did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!
Your hyperbolic headline suggesting that former President Clinton "loses his cool" makes CNN and Wolf Blitzer look like they are running a yellow-journalism smear campaign. Is Blitzer now a Republican hack? or just a hack? Pretty pathetic, Wolf. Are American reporters so weak and spineless that they can't take any well-merited blow-back or criticism? Get a spine and ask real questions. Like, for example, what are Americans going to get for the $21,000 per family cost for the Iraq war? I would like to see the Presidential candidates address that. What are we going to get out of this war?
Do you folks at CNN invent the news ? The story about Bill Clinton and a news reporter is pure unadulterated drival. I watched that video in it's entirety and in no way did Mr. Clinton loose his cool. He was relaxed succinct and to the point. Who at CNN wrote that piece? Perhaps an intern or High school student hoping to break into journalism ? I have more respect for CNN's ability to present hard hitting well thought out , unbiased, unspun good old fashioned fact filled reporting than what I"ve been seeing recently. To all you folks at CNN please don't invent or try to create the news. Be wise, be truthful, be honest . You're veiwers expect the best !
Pat...check your facts before making comments. Obama didn't change anything..this was decided over 8 months ago by the DNC. Hillary supporters filed the lawsuit 2 days after the Culinary Workers Union endorsed Obama. Another example of people not checking their facts and being misinformed...this explains why Bush is our current president!...Jeezz! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
It is definitely going to give an edge to Obama. Stop btiching about Clintons – they have nothing to do with the law suit. We had the best economy during Bill Cinton's Presidency that has been destroyed by our current President.
It is about time to bring another Clinton back in the White House.
Ya know...Bill Clinton almost seems a little too vested in his wifey getting this nomination. We are just back into the Hayfield's and McCoy's battle for the power in this country...Bush, Clinton, Bush, NOT Clinton!
Who could ever be a VP under Hillary? Possibly Bill? Is that even legal? And there's talk of her making him a Supreme Court judge? Pleeeeeeeeeeeez.
It is interesting to watch Bill "lose it" time and time again...how his behavior has changed since he's already BEEN prez and is not the one actually running. Their tag-teaming is disgusting.
I'm really get sick of this coverage of them. They are 2 of the most corrupt politicians that exist. The sooner she is out of this race, the better!
What is there to be moderated in the baove statement.. Are you by some means trying to deprive me of my forth amendment.........if so let me know so I can respond accordingly..........
A "third term" for Clinton is a bad thing?!?
A third term for the Clintons is the best thing that can happen to this country at this time, and probably, to the world.
Pat Huntington NY,
The judge overturned the decision, and the votes at the casino causes are being allowed. FAIR IS FAIR. Read 'em and weep, buddy boy.
The Clinton's law suit didn't work and now red faced Bill is upset. Poor, Poor Clinton machine. Hillary does have 36 hours though to gather the media and have a good cry before the caucus starts.
So, the Clinton campaign had nothing to do with the said lawsuit? Now, who was it that recently talked about the "biggest fairy tale"...?
Fess up lefties – as long as the Clinton Personal Attack Machine was busy slandering anyone they could get away with labeling as "$10 Trailer Park Trash" you loved them (even the so-called feminists joined the yuckfest) – now that the same tactics are used against Obama, you're horrified? Selective indignation, anyone?
For having "nothing to do with that lawsuit" the former President was certainly very vehement and knowledgeable about the reasons it should prevail.
Moderator you haven't posted my posting up to now..you don't like because its not anti-clinton.
I'M NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA!!!
A man of his stature should have more self-control. Do we want this behavior for the next 4 years??? Will he hold Hillary's hand when foreign male leaders challenge her. Can she cry her way out of a Chavez or Putin meeting? Will his emotions (and guilt) in defending his wife lead to an international incident? This is not a soap opera. Delivering her the presidency at our expense cannot makeup for the dirt he did to her. Somebody page Dr. Phil, please.
Just think about this. For those of you that think it is fine to have a caucus in a casino, remember a caucus is not a "secret ballot" How many of you would publicly vote for a candidate other then the one your boss is backing. If it was a primary and a secret ballot, then fine,have them in the casinos, but give me a break. Do you really believe that the culinery workers will vote the way they want to (possibley for Edwards or Clinton) with their boss's standing by to see how they vote and possibly fire them if they don't vote for obama since that is who they are backing. If they want to vote in casinos, then tell them to go to a primary in Nevada instead of a caucus.
What a hypocrite.
Bill and Hill should stop the tantrums and whining. It's really geting old and they can't have it "all ways" anymore.
Remember billary's remarks about the Iowa Caucuses when the Clinton campaign touched down in New Hampshire after her loss. She and her aides began DISSING the Iowa caucuses because they werse concerned about Iowa voters who had to work during the Caucuse and were unable to partiipate in the process. In her own words:
Clinton said about Iowa Caucuses - "You have a limited period of time on one day to have your voices heard. That is troubling to me. You know in a situation of a caucus, people who work during that time– they're disenfranchised. People who can't be in the state or who are in the military, like the son of the woman who was here who is serving in the Air Force, they cannot be present." “Iowa is so small, it’s like a mayor’s race in a medium-sized city,” Jay Carson, the campaign’s press secretary, scoffed to the Wall Street Journal. “It wouldn’t be wise to put too much emphasis on it.”
One has to wonder why she doesn't have the same concern for Nevada voters who have to work during the caucuses?
God, Clinton looks like an idiot. Such spin. They should just drop it before they bury their chances in this election.
If Bill Clinton has to keep defending and speaking for Hillary, then she does not need to be President. She is proving that she cannot hold her own in tense situations. I am sick of seeing Bill Clinton on TV!! If Hillary gets elected, Bill will actually be running the country. People should remember the disgusting things that Bill Clinton did in the White House Oval Office under the desk. The two Clintons are ganging up on Obama. Americans should not tolerate this behavior. I certainly do not want see Bill Clinton on TV everyday for the next 4 or 8 years. It is time for the Clintons to go.
Factor -
So am I (too bad we lost... well democracy lost)
Does that mean I filed it too?
The Clinton haters are out in full today. Most of them are not democrats and just old republicans doing what they do best. Swift boating! Its the Clinton's now and if Obama, by some accident wins,, they will work him over in the general election. Take my word for it, they have already vetted him and will know everything he has ever done back to his date of birth. Look what they done to Kerry.
Some facts about Barack Obama:
Harvard Law School, J.D. 1991, Magna Cum Laude
President, Harvard Law Review
Illinois State Senator – 13th Legislative District, Chicago, 1996 – 2004
US Senator 2004-Present
Member Senate Foreign Relations Commitee,
Senate Commitee on Veterans' Affairs,
Senate Commitee on Health, Education, Labor, Pensions
Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Quality, honesty, character – OBAMA '08
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MR. CLINTON!--–THIS COUNTRY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY- REMEMBER FLORIDA IN 2000? THE PEOPLE- ALL PEOPLE NEED AND DESERVE A VOICE HERE IN AMERICA. MANY PEOPLE WORK SATURDAYS-NOT JUST ON THE STRIP.
Bill Clinton is the man! I wish we didn't have that two term bull otherwise I would put him back in the White House in a second, as would a lot of America. If the closest way to having him around is allowing him to speak through his wife I say do it. I can't believe people would think otherwise.
If Bill had nothing to do with the lawsuit, why was he so upset?? You know what they say about "protesting too much."
Getting back to the issue. It does sound like caucusing where you work could be fraught with intimidation. Can you imagine voting for someone your boss is against or told you not to vote for in front of them. . . ?? You could loose your job!
I think we need a nationwide primary, and if not that, get rid of the caucus process it.
WELL I WANT BE LOOKING AT B E T ANY MORE THANK TO MR BOB JONSON U TOM
Factor/Cindy/et al - If he said nothing in regards to the accusation, they'd spin that in their favor (they being the media). You know it's true, if you just give it a moment's thought, which a lot of these bloggers seem to have trouble doing. Whatever.
That reporter got punked by an Ex-President... extremely funny. I don't see what all the craziness is about. Bill didn't get emotional or anything, he just told him what was up. I'm not really sure where I stand on the issue, but everyone's trying to make it fair for their side... that's the game of politics! Don't be surprised. As far as the video goes: Dang, listen up reporter, you just got pwned!
I am soooo tired of haters trying to say that people are voting for Obama just because he is Black. It is the issues. He is more than black he is the right person for the job!
Wow, usual Clinton hatred being spewed here. I guess no one has better issues to talk about. This Union deal for caucuses is a bit strange and questionable to any candidate that’s not Obama. It seems his Culinary Union does cast some shadow over impartiality here. But it would be nice if people could have an intelligent conversation here instead of just hurling insults!
Bill and Hillary must be running scared. Come on, lets get real. If Hillary cannot stand up for herself without acting as though she is about to cry, then she needs to stop running. I like Bill....I voted for Bill. I think he did a great job as president but I do not appreciate this "good cop,bad cop" routine the Clintons have going.
Why did they wait until they got to the South to pull out Bob Johnson? Is it because 50% of registered voters in South Carolina are Black? I am glad that Johnson's comments backfired and he had to apologize for his comments.
Where are the questions about Hillary's illegal campaign donations – Hsu? Paws?
Or her indicted fund raisers – Gupta, et. al.?
Or her being the only candidate running in the Michigan primary. The other candidates took a principled stand. Hillary just has nor scruples.
Why don't they vote in hospitals, grocery stores, Walmart etc, this Casino thing is ridiculous ! Sounds like slick Obama has some friends in the gambling world.
Thank you Bill for reminding the world that you and Hillary are part of the politics that everyone is so sick of. Thank you! You just keep opening your mouth like you do and we will all just sit back and watych your campaiggn crumble. With joy.
Listen up folks!
This was agreed on by all parties last March. Everyone said OK back then. But of course, Hillary would have never guessed that she would NOT get their endorsement
so she had no problem with it back then. Now since she did not get the endorsement she/teachers union went to court to try and get out of the deal they had settled on months earlier changed. I can't understand for the life of how so many people go off half cocked and defend Hillary blindly. She agreed to this till it did not go her way. Please people use facts and not emotions.
To E.C.
Her 'filthy crude' husband just happens to be the best president in century for this very toubled country. If you want to talk about crude and filthy, let's talk about the absolute SLEAZE that has governed for the last nearly 8 years.
I am a John Edwards fan and supporter also, but we don't need your devisive and totally WRONG, and unjustified slams at Bill Clinton. You kind of behavior is crude and filthy.
That reporter sure sounded like had an agenda. I'd have gotten annoyed, too.
For once, I actually believed him.
He's right. Unions are so incredibly powerful. Now they are rigging the vote. What a shame.
A judge knocked it down. I'm sure Hillarea will start crying real soon.
I'm curious, will Bill run to her aid when she has issues with international leaders? Will Rangel defend her when Chavez gets riled up? When congress does not act right will her people sue?
I agree with Bill Clinton. It seems that reporters relish trying to goad candidates and create ill will between the candidates even when they are trying to avoid confrontation. The race issues were largely created by reporters slanting the words of the candidates and trying to create problems. It is annoying and frustrating to watch.
Bill Clinton looks and sounds like a guy with a HUGE problem–the old ways are not working for Billary this time and what we are seeing is the Clintons' thwarted sense of entitlement. If you want to see something really scarey, pull up the speech Hillary gave in St. Louis in 2004 where she makes a crude joke about Ghandi. Go to YouTube. I don't have the link here. Watch it and feel your skin crawl.
OH HILLARY WILL SURELY WIN HANDS DOWN, STOP ALL THESE NOISE. OBAMA DOES NOT NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A PRESIDENT.
Go Obama! Clintons' listen to what America is saying to your supporters, either you are arrogant or ignorant or both (like the Judge told OJ about his slickery). No one wants your scandalist behavior to run our country. What country would take either of you as a threat, you are looked down on by every overseas government. No to a impeached former President and his wife, My God, have some respect for your country!
Definitely rigged election. shame on you Obama
Go Steven Klien...you really hit the key points there about Bill Clinton
Rigging the vote? Hillary and Co. tried rigging the vote back in March when they thought they would get the endorsement of the Culinary Workers Union. The didn't, therefore they again attempted to "rig the vote" by attempting to have a federal judge rule that it was not fair to hold these "at-large" caucuses. The federal court has no jurisdiction over state caucuses, and therefore should have thrown this out immediately.
ALL candidates were involved in the planning of the caucuses. When it didn't go in her favor a week ago, her followers decided to file a lawsuit. Great leadership from Hillary. Let's disparage 200,000 voters in Nevada, even though we helped get these caucus locations created in the first place.
When will you people WAKE UP!?!
"For once, I actually believed him.
He's right. Unions are so incredibly powerful. Now they are rigging the vote. What a shame."
Everytime Bill opens his mouth it's another Vote for Obama.
Slick and Hillary are shameless, egotistical, arrogant politicians whose only goal (their birthright?) is getting back their power. They don't are how they do it. If it hadn't been for Ross Perot in '92, nobody would even remember Slick, and he'd be back in Arkansas chasin' trailer park trash under Hillary's nose.
Obama in '08!
people, WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, BILL OR HILARY? is having your husband do your dirty work the kind of change America is seeking? vote for hilary and get another third term for bill clinton.
If she has to rely on her husband to run her compaing who is going to run the white house when tough decisions need to be made?
jawinka smith or some bubba writes:
" He's right. Unions are so incredibly powerful. Now they are rigging the vote. What a shame."
Unions are organized voters. how do they "rig the vote" by voting their conscience? first, your ilk cry hollywood entertainers shoul shut up, not the union should be disbanned or something? all shut up except you and your ilk, right? it's a real shame that you get to vote at all.
that aside, CNN censored my comment out, but let me try again:
Boycott CNN and other corporate media that fill you up with junk, and google Democracy Now and get real information!
I don't understand "old" Bill. Where does he come up with the concept of a vote being worth "five to one"?
M
Hey, CNN are you going to cover anything related to a Washington Post editorial that disclosed that Obama's spiritual advisor and church leader gave an award to Louis Farakahn? Stop your cheezy campaign coverage and get out there and get the facts on Obama. We know plenty about Hillary and John Edwards. It's time for you to do your job as the forth estate and do some real investigative reporting. You, the media are failing the Amarican public by not doing your job in our democracy. That's why people get their news from comedians and big fat limbaughs. All of the preceding hate speech about the Clintons most likely originated with limbaugh. Just make things up and keep repeating. That's waht passes for news these days. You, the media are responsible for helping Bush glide into the White House twice. And you did it with this kind of reporting. Now get out there and find out how Obama feels about Farakahn. America needs to know!
I thought maybe Billary was claiming he never had sex with that woman! For all of those that think the Clintons are so high and mighty, just wait until they reveal their true colors. They're the most conniving, underhanded, dishonest, sneaking, including the little princess, people you've ever seen. Even right now, Hillary won't reveal herself and those pictures of her "crying" are just a big publicity stunt to try and win over votes. The Clintons could care less about the average American. All they're interested in is more power.
Did we really need any more evidence that the Clintons will stop at nothing to gain the upper hand?
I say, enough to the "fairy tale" of the Clinton! Let's call it like it is! A cheap trick on the American public. Look who's gotten rich from all this nonsense. Not the American people.
Let the people vote. Shut up, Bill. You look stupid.
obama has what it takes to be commander-in-chief, leading this country with wisdom, good judgement and competent surrogates!
The Nevada judge's decision today was quite clearly correct: the Democratic Party is perfectly entitled to determine whatever rules it chooses to exercise it's First Amendment right to assemble, and the Court would be wrong to attempt to interfere. On examination, this was sound judgement from an impartial and Constitutionally correct jurist. I applaud him.
Bill Clinton, on the other hand, appears to feel that the Party's First Amendment rights are of secondary importance to whatever is expedient to help his wife in her election bid. Not surprising at all. This selfish man's first interest has never been in what is "fair," but only in what is of personal benefit to him. America is nothing but his toy.
hilary cries, bill goes into a rant RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA!! that is class for an ex-president. Get votes by crying and going into a red faced pent up rage!!
I vote for a president that is above this GAME PLAYING!! i have never seen obama cry or get angry to get votes, even though he had reason to cry and get angry especially after this silly obvious court challenge launched by clinton supporters.
emotional outbursts when things are tough, what about as president, when things get really tough. Is bill going to yell at anyone against his wife? is she going to cry to get support in the congress?
THINK ABOUT IT, THE CLINTONS ARE NOT WORTHY OF THE TITLE OF PRESIDENT WITH THESE TACTICS!!!
In Iowa the caucuses are held at night...some in schools, some at other places. Why in the world should the rules be changed in Nevada just to accomodate the casino workers. They don't work 24 hours a day. Another ploy of Obamas campaign. The Clinton bashings have to stop. Its not good for the democratic party or for anyone else. All the nasty comments are uncalled for and who knows what skeletons Obama has hiding in his closet. They'll start coming out when someone isn't afraid of the racist card being thrown at them. Grow up and behave like adults. Shame on CNN for being so biased. They slam Clinton at every turn & ignore Edwards. They're beginning to make FOX news & Bill O look like angels. Did you all see where Chris Mathews got his come uppance and had to apologise.
You really have to wonder how stupid the Clintons think the rest of us are. I mean, do they realize how obvious they are? Because if they have any inkling of how transparent their dirty tricks are, and they still try to justify them, or play the "we had nothing to do with it!" card, then they assume that we are very, very, very dumb. And, then you must ask the question....is the media stupid to buy into it? Or are they also banking on our ignorance? Open your eyes people. If it looks like a duck.....
NO PROFANITY, DO NOT DELETE MY COMMENT!
Dearest CNN,
I was thrilled to see the headline "Bill Clinton goes off on reporter". In fact, I was convinced that the story was going to discuss a Howard Dean-esque blowup (see: hilarious). Unfortunately, upon seeing the clip, I quickly realized that was not the case…
Do you really consider Clintons response to that question to be considered "visibly combative"? Oh please. I am disgusted by the hyperbolic nature of your "reporting". Re-evaluate what you release and get a grip on reality.
Until you do, I am perfectly satisfied spending my time on nytimes.com.
Cordially,
Mrs. Silence Dogood
Isn't this shameful, supporting the lawsuit but cawordly disassociating himself from it. Why is bill disgracing himself like this. The Clintons are clearly disparate.
Spouses campaign for spouses. Get over it.
Hillary Clinton '08!!
Bill Clinton is quite possibly the worst liar on Earth. Anytime he is accused of something or anyone asks a question or makes even the slightest suggestion he did something inappropriate the guy goes off.
If you had nothing to do with the lawsuit then why do you so strongly support changing the rules six days before the caucuses and get so angry when someone simply asks if you had anything to do with it.
It seems to me if you had nothing to do with the lawsuit you would simply say "We had nothing to do with it." and leave it at that, but Bubba's anger and face say it all.
I remember when he got angry at us and shook his finger at us and said "I did not have sexual intercourse with that women." and shamed us for even asking if he had. He shook his finger at us in anger as if to say "How dare you suggest I had sex with that girl."
CNN I've stood by your network, promoted CNN, and even changed the channel in the gym to CNN when it happened to be on FOX and you repay me by censoring my comments that are based in fact, with respect to the candidate I do not support, and you censor me.
CNN? Vocally, in written words, and from here on out no more. MSNBC here I come.
Isn't it funny that so many people (Hillary-supporters) are complaining here and elsewhere on CNN's sight that their comments are not being posted after being moderated. I have tried four times, with four comments, on this article alone and none of them are posted OR any longer waiting to be moderated. There was nothing offensive in these posts. In fact, they were much more intelligent than 90% of what I see here. What's the deal CNN, really?
Now they're back? ...and they're not where they were chronologically earlier. hmmm...
WOW! My opinion of Bill is starting to change. I have ALWAYS disliked Hillary but Bill is sliding. That Lawsuit is a Dirty tactic. The terms were agreed on 10 months ago. The lawsuit was filed RIGHT after Obama got the endorsments. YOU do the Math.
AS THE OLD SAYING GOES: OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASS HOLES EVERYBODY HAS ONE AND IT SEEM TO ME THERE ARE A LOT OF ASS HOLES OUT HERE MAKING COMMENTS THAT ARE DISGUSTING
Mike, Cleveland, OH January 17, 2008 2:14 pm ET
Every negative comment I've seen about Bill on this comment board so far hasn't addressed his point at all. He was entirely right and forceful about it, which is EXACTLY what I want from a statesman. Be right and be strong.
Yea Mike............................... Don't forget " A Liar" He's lieing but you just keep on "not inhaleing" right along with him.
Obama may be leading in polls but the fact is that recently he said that =
he did not want his staff to give him any paper until 2 seconds for fear =
he would lose it. He also said that he was not a chief operating officer =
and said that being President is not making sure that schedules are =
being run properly.
In contrast Hillary responded on the MSNBC debate that she would lead =
from day 1.
With the kind of comments from Obama above his he =
really suitable for the highest job ?
Do your thing Bill. .. You are still the man !
remember folks. the clinton camp is SETTING UP ANOTHER VICTIM PLOY. if they lose Nevada, they will blame it on the UNFAIR casino workers court decision. get votes my making americans feel sorry for you!!!
How clever of the clintons. How stupid do they think we are?
I find CNNand others so biased against hillary clinton. The old boys club is at work. They do not want to see a strong woman in the White house that they can't push around. Cnn bring on all these bias cronies who never say anything good about Hilllary? Are'nt they ashamed of the messages they are sending to our young people. Do they have mothers? Why do they hate this woman so much? who have done them nothing. I don't think they like obama they are just trying to boost him because they hate HILLARY . gO hiLLARY GO ! THE LORD IS WITH YOU AND THEY WILL NOT BE AbLE TO PULLY OU DOWN BECAUSE GUESS WHAT! THE LORID IS ON YOUR SIDE.
cn
Finally, people are starting to see what more than half the voting public saw in 1992. The Clintons are a dishonest couple that will do anything, and say anything to get elected. Why are they getting so angry now that their plan is in jeopardy? Is it because they care about America, or because they care about their "destiny"? I say the latter.
Does anyone know how long ago these caucus meetings were planned?
I hadn't heard of any problems with them until the Culinary Workers decided to make their endorsement.
Let's give Obama some heat for a change?! What is this country coming to??
I would NEVER consider voting for a candidate that has direct affiliation with the despicable people named below! Maybe Obama supporters should learn a little more about their candidate!
Let’s discuss Obama's spiritual advisor Rev. Jeremiah Wright, senior pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago; and the other clergymen revered by Obama, Rev. J. Alfred Smith Sr., senior pastor of Allen Temple Baptist Church in Oakland, Calif.; and Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Roman Catholic priest in Chicago.
After reading an article (see URL below) associated with Obama and these sorry excuses for humans…I’m speechless! Why has this not once (that I’ve seen, read or heard) been brought up in the media? They cover everything else! If Hillary farted in the wrong direction the media would be putting some negative spin on it! But yet, not a peep about this?? A perfect example of the media’s bias toward the Obama campaign. It’s appalling! If this is the company Sen. Obama chooses, whom he respects and looks toward for spiritual advice, there is a real problem here and how dare he say that race should not an discusses as an issue?? And the media should be ashamed of themselves for the lack of coverage, no matter how “inspiring” Obama may come across. Tisk Tisk!
(http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/4/161102.shtml?s=icp)
BLACK PEOPLE WAKE UP. PLEASE READ ABOUT CLINTON AND HER GOLDWATER DAYS: Young Hillary Rodham answered that challenge the next year as the 17-year-old class president at Maine East High School in the Chicago suburbs. She described herself in her memoirs as "an active Young Republican" and "a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit." As a politically attuned honor student, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College as a freshman before defecting to the Democrats there. But when in 1969 at age 22 she was the first Wellesley student to deliver the commencement address, she did not place civil rights first. She talked about a demonstration in Founder's parking lot at the college that "protested against the rigid academic distribution requirement" and supported "a pass-fail system" and "a say" in "academic decision making." That was not quite Martin Luther King's agenda. THIS WOMAN IS NOT FOR US. THIS WOMAN IS FOR HERSELF. NOW: How can she support Dr. King and Goldwater (segregationist) in the same year. They stood for total opposite things. If you black people (and yes, I am a black female), don't start reading and getting educated about the Clintons, you are gonna find out the hard way, that in her blood, she and Bill are republicans. They know that without dumb black people like Magic Johnson and Bob Johnson, they don't stand a chance. We can tell them NO. We have the power, and in this election, BLACK PEOPLE, WE ARE THE MAJORITY. WE can stop them. I challenge each person supporting Clinton to read about her history. She said she would answer questions, she said to inquire about everyone running, so let's inquire. Ask Bill about Fulbright. Don't be afraid of their answers. Don't be afraid to watch them squirmish and come up with some good excuse for this.
treborjant1975,
Again, please stop spreading spam emails
Just want to say, people who doesnt know anything about caucuses, dont bash Bill... Unlike some pro-obama-ers who seem to be so clouded by their arrogance and ignorance, Bill knows the system of caucus... Caucuses means they give state delegates and those state delegates will choose the real delegates to go to the Dems convention (Iowa has 900+state delegates and only can send 40 or 50+ delegates who goes to the convention, so I dont know about Nevada, but that is why its called caucus). Since casinos are "at large" caucus, they will get more state delegates.... and that is why the people who votes in casinos will get more votes!!!! Get your information right and then talk.... Note for CNN: it would be helpful for the CNN to actually report and educate the people on how caucuses works.. but then again, you are endorsing Obama silently, so why bother... You would rather the pro-Obama-ers and undecided voters to think that Bill is stupid to think a vote can count 5 times....
and fyi, the teacher's union have not endorsed Hillary or anyone for that matter. So stop with the conspiracy theory that the union is silently endorsing HIllary and that the Clintons are actuallly doin the lawsuit. Coz i have my own conspiracy theory, the judge is endorsing Obama (silently) and that is why the charges were dropped...
Aw yes! Once again former president Clinton, rushes in to save the day for Hillary again before the big day in Nevada. He did this prior to New Hampshire. Who's running as a presidential candidate? Hillary? or Bill?
Go BILL...American people miss you...you was great American PRESIDENT,..PERIOD..
LATINOS FOR CLINTON 08
great strong response. Thank you Mr. Clinton.
voting for Hillary – always
Mart from Chicago,
It is public knowledge that the individuals that brought the suit all donated money to the Clinton campaign.
But besides that, the judge made the correct call: This was agreed upon in March 2007 and the lawsuit was only filed after Obama was endorsed by the union. If that is not strange, then I don't know what is.
You can change the rules in your favor after an union you thought was going to endorse you decided to endorse your opponent.
Whether you love Bill Clinton or not, you have to love him for standing up to sleazy reporting.
Bill is still the best politician the U.S. has. He is brilliant, diplomatic and seasoned.
Did you get a chance to watch the debates held at Cashman Field in Las Vegas? If you didn't you missed a good segment of Hillary showing her true colors. I don't think she has a clue as to how to answer a question directly without going around in circles. She talks just like a lawyer, no puns intended and she thinks the listeners don't catch what she is doing. Hillary, Nevadans (formerlly TX) are not STUPID! She made a comment how "pathetic" it was that our President was over in Saudia Arabia "begging" them to increase their oil production to help drive down the price of oil. Was Hillary aware that Congress on the very same morning of the debate introduced a bill that would impose a 40 cents a gallon tax over the next five years? Isn't Congress controlled by the Democratic? How "pathetic" of HIllary not to bring this bit of information up in her debate. Check with Fox News if you are in doubt about this. I hope President Bush vetoes this proposal!
Secondly, the lawsuit that was brought about by the Teacher's Union in Las Vegas trying to stop the hotels from setting up a caucas so that all workers will have a chance to attend. When asked by a reporter about this incident, Bill Clinton got into the face of the reporter, and with a temper telling the reporter that he knew nothing about the lawsuit and had nothing to do with it., The reporter told Bill that the rules of the caucas were made last March, but Bill denied knowing anything about the rules. If something does not go their way, the Clintons wants to change the rules as they go along. If something does not suit their fancy, they want to file lawsuits and get the rules changed. Finding faults and lying about others to gain votes is one of the most tackiest things ever known to mankind.
Yes, the Culinary Union is over 60,000 members strong and continues to grow everyday. Let me ask you something truthfully, if the Culinary Union opted to support Hillary, do you think for one minute that the other candidates would have went as far as the Clintons did to throw a lawsuit to stop the hotels from having a caucas just 2 days away from the Nevada Caucas? This is a classic case of "if the show was on the other foot" what would the Clintons have done?
The unions cannot make you vote one way or the other – it's a matter of choice. My husband belongs to a union and during election time the union sends out a list of who they think we should support. We do not go by what others think about a candidate. We listen to the debates and watch the candidates on how they handle themselves, and if they are professional in the way they deal with issues. I have no use for anyone who is critical of others to gain victory because it is not an honest victory, deceiful, yes ,honest, no.
My husband and I along with our daughter and her husband will be at the caucas on Saturday and you can bet one thing, we will not be there for Hillary.
The sad thing with this whole Bill and Hillary show is that they can't even be original. Everything Obama does here they come duplicating the same ads, the same message and the same rally style.
What a pathetic couple.
I saw that exchange. It was civil; Bill never raised his voice. He spoke in an even, but respectful tone, even though he was obviously (and rightfully) annoyed by the accusatory tone of the reporter.
"A VOTE FOR HILL IS A VOTE FOR BILL" Bring back SLICK WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clinton/Obama 08' YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cnn "moderates" out everything not favorable to Democrats. Might as well be submitting comments on TASS in the USSR...
Go Bill, Americans loved you....and your wife. Everything you guys did for America...the booming economy the accidental bombing on a asprin plant in Africa, not taking out Bin Laden, the sex scandal, near impeachment, oh another sex scandal, lying under oath, lying about doing drugs, sex scandal again, watergate scandal, all the pardons, another sex scandal, illegal campaign financing, apologizing to America about the sex scandal, all the great things you did for African Americans.( which I cannot name specific thing) and a balanced budget.
He was Awesome...too bad we might be only getting his wife this time...she might be much better????
Hillary 08??????? lol
Hey all my campaign fanatics. Again I live and Work in Las vegas, the big deal is that 10 months ago the state and national democratic party with representaion from the unions voted on createing caucuses at large in an effort to support the shift workes on the strip, yes there are a lot of people(tons of my family) who will be at work and will miss the caucus but the reason the party voted for at large sites is because there is a strong concentration(200,000+) of voters on the strip.
This would not have even been an issue had complaints been filed months ago as opposed to 2 days after a big union endorsed Sen. Obama . Can't you still vote for who you want to even if you are union or will Tony Soprano come after you with a bat if you do?
This is so sad that this even has to addressed but Sen. Obama is Christian( no offense to any Muslims) But if all you history buffs recall JFk had similar religious issues while runnung for president. people were worried that the Pope would be running the country because he was catholic. And people still talk bout his for being a great leader. Even good ol Bill had issues Remember he was just a Gov. when he ran. How much exeperience did he have as Gov.?
you can see the whole video on you tube for those that are interested.
I think race in this election has always been on the minds of Americans on a subconcious level.
And also since i'm still on my soapbox
P.S. during the debates HRc made an statement that suggested that terrorists may feel more inclined to test Sen. Obama if he were to become pres. due to his Newness/inexperience, but wouldn't they be more inclined to test her since she would be new and a woman? just food for thought.
Shout out to JE for working hard despite a virtual media snub.
LOOKS LIKE THE PREZ IS SICK OF IT ALL..MY SEDIMENTS EXACTLY. HE CAN DEFEND HIS WIFE ANYTIME HE WANTS! YAY! BILL
This reminds me of Bush's people rigging the voting machines. WIN FAIR OR DO NOT TRY TO BE MY PRESIDENT!
The battle royal commences and my money is on that guy from the south side !
It will be a battle between a straight shooter and a fooler !
We the people have awakened and we won't fall for Bill's pillow talk any more.!
I think that this works out great for Obama counter punching Bill Clinton for three reasons:
1. Obama can counter back hard on Bill and not look like a bully.
2. Bill doing the street fighting diminishes Hillary.
3. As smart and shrewd as Billy thinks he is – he is no match for Obama's
intelligence, integrity and superior charisma which drives Bill Clinton
up a wall !
You just keep that mouth a flapp'in billy – it's a great show !
MSN and News Week have both looked into Clinton and Obama's experience. It's not even close , Obama has more time in elected office , and a track record of pulling people together..........he has the ability to unite people.
Clinton has a history of pulverization , and the experience she tries to claim , is the same as the White House pastry chef. She is considered a Washington insider , and that means "NOTHING CHANGES" , because SHE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
OBAMA 08
Keri-texas ,,, How is it you have come to feel the current president is a bumbling idiot ? the media is a two way street,, to feel the president is wrong on issues or has wasted great opportunities in his two terms is legit and rational oppinion,, " bumbling idiot is media and partisan driven,,,,,,,,I would most certainly care what the CEO of the corporation I have invested my future in was at the very least discreet after hours or worse, on the clock, and hope they were smarter then being involved in scandelous behavior. AS to this story,, Las vegas HAS checks and balances already in place that states the casino caucusers can pull no more than 6 of the delegates . If that is correct than this is just another useless "story"
Mart from chicago,,, the information I posted about las vegas casino caucusers can only have or pull six delegates to go to convention ?,,, came directly off a news channel,, kind of puts a hole in your arguement Marty,, who's the un-informed one in this story and who is behind this trickery ? During presidential election time I feel strongly that the media owes the people they serve honest open and un-bias reporting,, that would be the message I would like to send to ALL news networks, even if the truth hurt,,, DO you think that will happen ?
On the democrat side, Barack Obama is a good choice...
On the Republican side, it is, the one and only, Ron Paul...
Treborjant1975 where have you been???...Parents, wives, children of the four thousand killed in Iraq, and the wounded who are daily suffering through paper work have not forgotten, how they trusted Hillary when she encouraged and voted for the war, then when the lies were revealed she back peddled, and blamed everyone for her handwritting. Let's focus on the issue's the Clinton's beat Obama 20:1 when it comes to negatives.
Rodger Clinton Jr. Bill's brother. When Bill was Governor of Arkansas, Roger was arrested for cocaine possession in 1984 and served a year in federal prison.[2] Subsequently, his brother granted him a pardon amongst the list of pardons issued on January 19, 2001.
However, Roger continued to court legal trouble. On February 17, 2001, he was arrested and charged with two counts of drunken driving and one for disturbing the peace. In a deal that spared him jail time, Roger Clinton pleaded guilty to a non-alcohol-related charge of reckless driving. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
IS BILL CLINTON RUNNING FOR A THIRD TERM? REALLY PATHETIC INDEED!!!
Why will the teachers Union which is backing BILLARY CLINTON send in a lawsuit against another union backing Obama. Please don´t forget that the Rules were fixed by the National Democratic Party last year on march 2006..and both Sides ( Obama and Clinton) had agreed and cosigned the agreement.
But the Clinton didn´t take Obama candidacy seriously at the beginning.They thought it was a done deal and never expected the culinary union and service union to end up endorsing Obama.So now THEY ARE IN GREAT PANIC.
I wish they play by the rules...that´s all we want and let the american ppeople choose the best.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!
GET OVER YOUR HATE!!!
U see,their negative campaign and constant criticism of Obama has brought people to be even more curious about him. I didn´t know Obama at the beginning of this race until Clinton stated calling his name everytime she had a rally.
So i became curious!! there must be something about this guy if people ( BILLARY CLINTON) hate him that much.I visited his website,read about his biography,check the link,,know the fact,,
and now i know why.
,, First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you
then they fight you
then you win,,
OBAMA 2008
RIDICULOUS! IF YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE IT NOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE LIVING IN A CAVE! WHY ARE WE TALKING MORE ABOUT ONE SPOUSE OF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MORE THAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER SPOUSE OR, THE ACTUAL CANDIDATE? THAT'S BECAUSE BILL CLINTON IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. AND THAT'S WHO HILLARY'S SUPPORTERS ARE VOTING FOR.
When will someone tell Bill that he is irrevelant now? I guess he doesnt have anyone to rape or molest so he's out there running his mouth instead.
And reporters need to learn that they aren't immune to anger or attack when they open thier mouth and spew inciting comments instead of "reporting" the news. To many of these so called journalists want to be the story instead of just reporting the news.
Unfair.....but NOT if Hillary got the endorsement of the Culinary Union. These two are so shallow. I just love seeing both of them lose their cool because of Obama's unexpected success. Go Obama!!!!
Watching this interview I had flash backs of " I did not have sexual relations with that woman" The guy is allways lying
Well, although as a Canadian, I do not have a vote, I was one of those people who really believed that Hillary and Bill had a mandate for bringing positive change to America.
However, after non-intentionally coming across the Peter Paul vs Clinton Scandal on the WWW my belief has changed. I don't know how much credability one can give to WWW reports. But, I would hope that no one would be so callous as to put a fraudulent copy of the Affadavit Filed by Peter Paul against the Clintons on the Web. I knew absolutely nothing about this case. And to say I was shocked by this article is an understatement.
It most certainly changed my view of Hillary and Bill. And it does not give me any pleasure to make that comment.
Dan Abrams is the only Commentator that is paying attention and challenging the rest of the Media with all of their "directed" comments and questions – an inaccurate snippet of every situation regarding the Clinton's.
CNN you need to stop cheating the American people and present a fair and balanced presentation to the public or get off of the air.
Is this the voice Mrs. Clinton found? A term and one-third in a Senate seat in a state she never previously lived in and she NOW finds her voice in little New Hampshire? Perhaps she should have moved there to become their senator.
Is Bill her real voice? Is Mrs. Clinton ready to head the government? Has she ever even managed an office? A department? I realize she has an extensive law career but how much legislation will she be passing as the President? Perhaps she should return to the practice of law. I fear her practice in the White House will ground this nation to a halt.
to mark wilkes barre pa, do you know how many delegates are in Nevada? 33 in which only 25, if i correctly read from a website, is on the line in this jan 19th caucus, the rest are the superdelegates. so if your info is correct, 6 out of 25 is chosen by these "at large" precincts of casinos, then thats more than 5 times. btw, I did not say I know 100% about this facts in regards to Nevada caucus, all i am sayin is people should read and find out what is the real news out there, rather than bashing Bill without the knowledge of it... If you read previous comments, u'll see how ignorant people are, especially the Clinton's haters, they speak without knowing the fact... And another point i made was CNN should be reporting how this caucus thing worked, rather than attacking Bill and quoting what he said to make him sound stupid for thinking a vote can count 5 times!!... And by reading tickers and the news on CNN, I dont think unbias reports exist at all... And if its the truth, I would like to hear it...
wow, chill out Bill. you're starting to show just how bad you want back in at Pennsylvania Ave. like Roland martin pointed out, it's funny how the teachers union did not have a lawsuit until the Culinary union endorsed Obama. and the Clintons don't like it if it doesn't favor them. get real. let the casino workers cast votes.
It's so very simple... Do the math...
50% of the country right now would not vote for Hillary Clinton,
under any circumstances.
Hill and Bill have successfully split the Democratic Party right
down the middle over their playing the race card. Do they really
think a majority of black voters are going to support them after
they've destroyed Barack's chances?
Hillary's nomination will be the best thing that ever happened to
the GOP. It will without any doubt whatsoever guarantee a
Republican win in November.
Just do the math...
Jim Whittaker
Hemet, California
Everytime Bill Clinton opens his lying mouth, it only reminds people
about everything so utterly dishonest and distasteful about his eight
years as president. Are these two actually so stupid that they think the
American people are going to allow them back in the White House for
another eight years of scandals and divisive politics of personal
destruction? Wake up Democrats! You're about to nominate another
John Kerry in a skirt (whoops, pantssuit), and you see how well THAT
turned out.
Will Bill keep mum when Hillary is attacked as president??? For better or worse, electing Hillary is a 2 for 1 deal.
How can Obama supporters support the inequality in voting thats going on in Las Vegas. All voters in NV should have the same equal chance to vote. Bill Clinton have a reason to be mad. Others should be just as mad. Obama took this one right out of the Bush playbook. Is this the kind of president we want? Another I can do what I want to because I am president.
Ha ha ha ha...that Slick is tooooo much! Ha ha ha ha
The below is exactly what the reporter asked him, it was a simple question, it was not accusatory, a simple question:
During a campaign stop for his wife in Oakland a day earlier, Clinton became visibly annoyed when KGO-TV reporter Mark Mathews asked him whether Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign "should take a stronger stand against a union's lawsuit to keep casino workers from caucusing at special precincts in Nevada".
That is it, a SIMPLE question and "bad cop Bill" needs to go into "Chris Wallace is a bum mode" to ratchet up what is left of the base.
When Romney had an issue with a reporter that reporter was COMBATIVE and wanted an argument and thus warranted a heated response.
Simple as ABC.
Bill says " I....I .....I did not have anything to do with this..." sounds to me like he's the one running for president. And of course if we think that they the Clintons will be not be rulling if they win then we decieve ourselves. Unless of course Hillary and Bill do want to break up their marriage, else they will have to share some of that power. For them this is what will be, and i believe the real intention of Hillary's bid, to reign over America.......
...Vote wisely America........Obama08
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
Don't say anything negative about Bubba or Hillary or else your opinion will end up in "Your comment is awaiting moderation." limbo
I find it difficult to believe anything these two say. There is so much negative publicity on the both of them.
Marty ,, I did not mean to imply that YOU were un in-formed or up to trickery,, MY comment and feelings were to Bill clinton's arguement and then to point out the hole in your arguement. I should have reversed the sentences and my point would have been made clearer. I stand by what I said about the six delagates,, and add "AT BEST" through trickery againts the clintons, thats the best they can do, is that better ? As to your comment on news bias,, No-one should get there total source of info from one direction. I was simplt stateing that I did hear a news channel explain the process in las vegas, even if it was spotty and a little confusing. At least they attempted to explain for once. The media COULD be so helpful, useful, and important at election time, BUT, it seems to me by what ever channel you happen to turn on whether it be tv, radio newspapers or website, you only ever get one side of a story explained in detail The media could do so much better and be so much more respected if the reporter carrying the story would either state his or her leaning oppinion up front or be equal to both sides of an explanation and stay out of the buissness of leading people to a oppinion on any subject
What exactly is the "awaiting moderation" about? I know what moderation means, but I am seeing my post on MY screen. Does that mean that what I post is only available to be seen on my screen until a decision is made to the contrary?
Everyone...they all Play politics and what has happened in Nevada shows that Mr. Obama is not lily white.
I would like to see any husband, who has, of course, any respect for his wife and mother of his child, stand by and allow his spouse to be dragged through the mudd the way Mrs. Clinton is constantly dragged through the mud by the AMERICAN press (sorry folks, most of the world LOVES her). I don't know, maybe most American husbands would just let that happen. It seems that way, anyway, by all the incoherent comments I read all over the place regarding this particular incident.
Now, he (Clinton) was approached with the question... It was not as if he yanked the mic out of the "journalist's" hand and told him off.
Get a grip you all...Mrs. Clinton is a tough politician...but Obama is no saint either and that will all come out when the Republicans get a hold of him.
McCain or Romney will win. No doubt about it and the US Democrats will be left pondering: "we had three amazing candidates and we blew it..."
You have no idea what a mistake you are making but the Press is making sure you make it.
Hey marty ?,,,, did you see the results in las vegas ? so much for Bills theory, and how about those accusations of voter intimidation againts Hillary ?
I've always loved Bill Clinton. But, not right now. I really feel that he is going to do us in. This is our year, Democrats should be proud of their candidats and their position. Mr. Clinton please stop. You are hurting the party.