January 19, 2008
Posted: 07:47 PM ET

(CNN) – You know you're in Vegas when victory at a caucus precinct comes in the form of a card draw.

On Saturday, Sen. Hillary Clinton won the caucus at Mojave High School in North Las Vegas when one of her supporters pulled out the queen of hearts — besting the 10 of spades for Obama.

Tom Komenda, a Clinton supporter, told CNN there was an even number of supporters for the two candidates — 48 each. But the caucus had five delegates, so they couldn't be split evenly.

How to break the tie? A good old fashioned card draw.

Komenda — who sent CNN the story via I-Report — said a sealed deck was unwrapped. But as the shuffling started, he was concerned that the shuffler might have been shuffling in a way that exposed the faces of the cards to some of the nervous onlookers.

"I said, 'Wait wait wait — if we have to do this idiotic thing with cards, we're going to shuffle them the way they're supposed to be shuffled,'" he told CNN, laughing. "Then they said, 'If you want to shuffle, come down here and shuffle. So I went down and shuffled!"

Komenda says an Obama supporter drew first, and up came the ten of spades. Next, a Clinton supporter drew, and a queen of hearts decided the tie-breaker in favor of Clinton. So the final delegate count was two delegates for Obama, and three for Clinton.

It all ended, he said, in "cheers from one side of the room, groans and boos from the other."

Those cheering ended up rewarding Komenda — he was chosen to be one of the delegates for Clinton.

–CNN's Josh Levs

Filed under: Nevada


Gil - California   January 21st, 2008 11:15 pm ET

Sorry Jane, if the Democrats want to keep my vote it will have to be Obama or Edwards. I disagree that she is the strongest candidate against the Republicans. I believe that if she gets the nod SHE will be the reason the Republicans keep the White House. I, for one, would rather let the Republicans stay in the White House than give the keys over to Hillary. I have no problem with a woman, or a black, or a Hispanic, of any other "group" being elected president. I do have a problem with Hillary and it is not because of what she is, it is because of who she is.

Kate   January 21st, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Obama's people groaned and booed when they did not draw the winning card? I'm appalled. What does that say about his ability to lead?

Just kidding. I only ask because when there was a story about HIllary supporters booing Obama for a comment during a debate, these boards were on fire with all the ways the behavior of that little group indicated she should not be president.

Talk about a double standard.

Mike   January 21st, 2008 5:20 am ET

Two things to say here:

1. All this fighting…WOW! As democrats, We should be supporting eachother, regardless of who the nominee is. I plan to support Hillary or Obama, whomever is the chosen one. There's no sense putting another Republican in office. Everyone has the right to vote as they choose, but for goodness sake, if you want change…start by voting for a democrat. To throw away a vote for a definite new path for America just because you don't like _(insert democratic candidate name here)_ is completely ignorant.

2. To those who think that the counts that are up for the Dem. Caucus in NV are "Votes"… They are state delegates. Hillary received 500+ more delegates to represent her at the NV state convention.To those who think the turnout was poor, listen to this: Over 100,000 Democrats and republicans caucused on Saturday, this being the highest number ever in NV. Do a little political homework and you will find that Nevadans and all Americans are looking for change.

EE   January 20th, 2008 11:54 pm ET

Nevada has 5 Democratic Electoral votes not 582. Nevada has 33 delegates to the
convention . 25 were chosen Saturday and the balance are superdelegates. You're
correct we should learn how the election process works but let's start with the basics
like the difference between electoral votes and delegates to the convention.

Twigster   January 20th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Now why would anybody claim she won the popular vote and then say they were breaking ties by drawing cards? I say count and let the people know the truth!

Jane   January 20th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

All you Hillary haters who claim to vote for a Republican…wake up….you are doing exactly what they want.

The Republicans say that Hillary will unite the Republican party and that they will beat her easily. They want to scare you to vote for someone else because they can beat Obama or Edwards easier. They will have a tough fight on their hands with Hillary.

Jane   January 20th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

to Mike T.

Calm down. Wow, what anger! Yes only in America! Where else can a presidential race be run differently for each party? Why are the rules not the same for the democrats as the republicans? Why can't all states have the same rules? Is that such a strange question? Aren't we the UNITED STATES? Emphasis on United!

You vote against Hillary if that will make you feel better. Not sure what she has done to you, but you are entitled. I am also entitled to my view. I just think that voting Republican out of spite is really immature. You would really have another 4 years of what we have now?

By the way, I am from Illinois and Senator Obama has really not done much for me when he was a state senator and even less in the Senate.

E>Dozois   January 20th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

As a Canadian watching your elections it makes me wonder,how long does it take for an African to become an American,I would think that after a few generations he or she would be an American,I love my country as I am sure you do yours but in Canada when you become a citizen you are a Canadian period,not an African Canadian a Latino Canadian a polish Canadian and so on. If every one is so proud to be an American,than be an American and stop dividing yourselves
You are all wondreful people with so much to be proud of and so much to look foward to.I have been to the States many times,and have nothing but good things to say about all the people I met in my travels you are very good neighbors.

jckie   January 20th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

No,seriously. Someone DREW the 10 of SPADES for Obama , and someone DREW the QUEEN of hearts for HRC????? Is this South Park?

E>Dozois   January 20th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Is CNN backing Obama,if not,it sure looks that way, every chance they get it's Obama this,Obama that ,and Hillory Clinton hardly gets mentioned,only when
they have to,and if it's one of her speeches being covered,she is either cut off,or a
connection has been lost,give me a break,If obama gets to the white house
CNN will have played a BIG part in outting him there!

aware   January 20th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

canadian13, I think you are a little off! Aloha from a former Canadian. :)

Hillary 08

Surge   January 20th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

Look at how angry and nasty the Obama supporters get when they don't win. Like spoiled children. It reveals a level of immaturity that is not unlike Obama's own sense 0f self-entitlement. But Obama supporters are very much like he and his campaign. Calculated, in favor of raced-based slogans rather than specifics, immature, hypocritical.

Obama has been present for hundreds of votes on issues he claims to feel passionately about. So passionate that when he was faced with making a Yes or No decision on passing bills that would affect the people he claims to be running to represent he voted…present. Instead of taking a stand he chose to NOT take a stand so his decision couldn't be used against him later when he ran for president. He actually worked to eliminate any semblance of decision-making stands.

And his supporters want to refer to Hillary as a typical, calculated politician?

Forget his lack of experience. We can’t afford this lack of leadership.

concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona   January 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Sound familiar Gore received more popular votes and got more delegate votes. I don't believe that will happen in the democratic party. Those delegates will go to the winner. Hillary Clinton. Go Girl!

Hillary 08   January 20th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Nevada delegates are not awarded to any candidate until April…..so Obama is quite wrong when he says he won more delegates…no he didn't….ask Jill Derby of the Nevada State Democratic Committee…..she has explained it very understandably even for you Obama lovers!!!!

Mark, B'ham., Al.   January 20th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

It is a good thing this happened in Nevada, places like Harlem , Central L.A, South Chicago, Miami, and DC, it more likely would be solved by drawing guns instead of cards. Queen of Hearts definitely was a fix, but they probably pilled the Joker out of the deck which would be a more appropriate card for Billary!

WaaWaabama   January 20th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

582 more votes are 582 more electoral votes, NOT popular votes.

She won 51% of the electoral caucus votes and Barack 45%.

Please learn how the election process works. Jaysus.

State delegates for NV will be decided April 16th.

Gary Mason   January 20th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

Why is everyone talking about the Nevada results without pointing out that Clinton collected exactly *582* more votes than Obama? While one may count that as a victory, the numbers wouldn't seem to mean a thing.

Except, of course, to the millions of sheep who will cast their own votes based upon what those before them did. This kind of democracy is responsible in large part for the speed at which we seem to be going down the tubes as a nation.

Oh, by the way, even with the 582 vote margin, Clinton won one less delegate than did Obama. In a REAL sense, that would seem to be a loss. Except, of course, for those sheep and what the numerical victory may mean to them.

Sometimes I despair.

OBAMA 08   January 20th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

To Tom Davie: Both Bill and Hillary Clinton praised Ronald Regan as a leader for change and Bill Clinton started an "idea" forum in 1992 to generate ideas for democrats due to the fact that he stated the "Republicans" had all the ideas.

The clintons rewrite history, the media doesn't take them to task for it and the voters buy it.

Watch Meet the Press…Russert didn't just say it…he used direct quotes and played videos of both of their remarks. Hopefully Obama's campaign will be putting these out so voters can really decide!

Vote for whom you want…just don't do it on soundbites and a "race issue" that is largely being created and flamed by the press!!

Jane   January 20th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

Hillary won the popular vote. Congratulations should have come from the Obama camp, instead they spin the delegate count incorrectly! Hillary can win the general election even without all you Hillary haters. She is winning so far without you. She has won the last 3 in a row…I am counting Michigan. Obama should have stayed in there, but now the media keep forgetting to mention it. It counts. She counts! Go Hillary!

Taylor   January 20th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

"Also, people are free to vote however they want, but why is it that people on here are always threatening to vote for a republican if Hillary or Obama wins – good and loyal democrats, please get over your anger and support whomever the democratic nominee is."
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I couldn't agree with this comment more. I don't understand why a person would be willing to vote against everything they stand for just because their candidate didn't win the nomination. You obviously aren't a true Democrat if you vote this way. How can you be pro-choice, want to end the war and everything else the Democratic party stands for and vote Republican because your candidate didn't win? I have someone I support but I'd rather have any of the Democrats in than a Republican.

Mike T   January 20th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

"To all of the Obama supporters who say "If she wins, I won't vote for her", if BHO wasn't running, who would you vote for? Edwards? IMHO, he is likely to be the VP."

I'm sorry, but I will NOT vote for Clinton. Period. I don't care who the VP is.

Mike T   January 20th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

"If you don't like Hillary, and she turns out to be the nominee, then stay home and don't vote! "

No way. I will not stay home and let the Devil win. I will make sure to vote AGAiNST her if she happens t be the nominee. Whether that means voting for the Mormon Romney or Bush II, McCain. The Clintons CANNOT be allowed to have the presidency again. Wait and see how a HRC nomination will completely turn out the Republican base, and how many of us Democrats and Independents, will go out and vote against her if she is on the ballot.

Mike T   January 20th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

What an absolute JOKE. Only in America.

rmsk- denmark   January 20th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

Do not worst your vote on Obama, he is not going to make it through to the white house.

Go Hillary

Lynn   January 20th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

I'll admit that I'm an Obama supporter who will not vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee. I would have voted for any of the other Democratic nominees, particularly Joe Biden, whom I initially supported. But here's the problem I have with Hillary Clinton: I simply do not like the way the Clintons play politics. They are dirty, mudslinging pols who are no different than what we have now in Bush/Rove. That's not what I want for the Democrats. I see John McCain as being much more honorable than the Clintons, and really not all that far off policy-wise from Hillary. Both of them would/will keep our troops in Iraq, mark my words. I'd rather someone of honor run the country than the Clintons. If the Dems stay in control of the House and/or Senate, no Republican will be able to get an anti-choice amendment to the constitution done, or stack the Supreme Court, unless the Dems cave in as they've done in the past. Then the Dems would have no one but themselves to blame. The bottom line is that with all of her ties to big business and lobbyists, I have no faith that a Hillary Clinton administration will differ significantly from any Republican administration.

As a Democrat, I simply cannot understand how other Democrats could condone what Hillary and Bill are doing. Aren't we supposed to at least try to do better than that? I don't feel I'll be "abandoning" my party, at least as I see it, if I vote against Bill and Hillary. And I certainly don't feel that I am bound to vote for Hillary simply because I'm a woman (how is it the least bit "feminist" to vote for a candidate simply because she is a woman?). We've got to do better than this.

tom   January 20th, 2008 11:55 am ET

i'm voting democrat no matter who wins..and so should you

NextPresident   January 20th, 2008 11:54 am ET

They are indicated that Hillbillary won majority of the women voters in Nevada was that from all the hookers who feel they have a chance of getting a cigar from Bill in their Oval Orifice.

Enough with these people. The country needs change and Bill and Hillary are certainly not change but hinderance.

tom   January 20th, 2008 11:52 am ET

if you want real change ..give a woman a shot

Tom Davie is on anon middle america's lap   January 20th, 2008 11:49 am ET

Glad that the Hill people think this race is over. Soooooooooo gullible.

tom   January 20th, 2008 11:44 am ET

woohoo!! thank you Nevada……..God bless the U.S.A….

Hawk,Texas   January 20th, 2008 11:38 am ET

I am simply amazed at the people that write here that do not take the time to study all the news and weed out the chaff from the news fodder. our news media never tells the whole story. they twist and contort the truth. and all you people that call yourselves democrats and say you will vote republican are all lying to yourselves. you are nothing but republicans. do you like what obama said about reagan. it shows that he is an unknown when it comes to what party he belongs to. remember liberman.

Louis, New York   January 20th, 2008 11:31 am ET

Amazing, our future on a card draw.
A popularity contest.
A black vs woman argument.

Sorry, I thought we should select a leader based upon REAL credentials, not made up ones. Not a roll of the dice or a crap shoot.

It's good that we aren't doing anything important here, like picking the next leader of the free world or anything!

We get what we deserve.

Anyone but Hillary '08

Mich   January 20th, 2008 11:24 am ET

it constantly amazes me how Americans want change but yet they all rush out to vote for Hillary or should we say Bill.
Another Clinton dynasty is NOT change!!!
If democracy were meant to be that way Americans would still be voting for the ancestors of Abe Lincoln!
If she gets the nomination nod the republicans will get in for sure
lets hope she is smart enough to realize a Clinton/Obama ticket is a SURE win
my vote would be for Obama
he does represent real change!!!!

OJC, PHX, AZ   January 20th, 2008 11:05 am ET

Man, I love Vegas. You can decide anything with a deck of cards and a whole lot of money.

Rose   January 20th, 2008 11:00 am ET

CNN, please allow my rights to express Freedom of Speech.
I have heard, read and listened to every pundit praise the win of McCain and so underplay the win of Senator Clinton. Gender bias is ramped and I am disgusted. Before everyone thinks their candidate is a winner, Mayor Bloomberg may be the spoiler. He may consider the Independent run and after all the work these candidates have done to date, that idea undermines ALL their debates, raising money, speeches, town after town. I think it's a nasty move or consideration. He has deep pockets and can support his own run. But, I think it's a cheap shot! He was a Democrat, a Republican and now Independent. When he changed this last time and said over and again he has no intentions of running, makes him insincere.

Christine   January 20th, 2008 10:53 am ET

I agree. Why doesn't CNN spin that, because of the distribution of delegates, Obama actually won more Nevada convention delegates than Hilary. They keep focussing on the Vegas strip caucauses that were poorly attended compared to estimated and not Reno where Obama swept the caucuses.

Obama is still winning because the state awarded him more delegates than Clinton.

He's ahead by two.

I'd rather focus on the fact that before Richardson dropped out the Democrats had an African American, a woman, a white male and a Hispanic.

On the Republican side we got . . . . (well you do the math.)

Regardless of who wins, this is a historic election year. My daughter will be voting for the first time. The energy in the house is electric about the possibilities.

Now – if the candidates would stop slinging mud and set and example for her.

I can dream, can't I?

Esperanza   January 20th, 2008 10:50 am ET

I can't beleive that up to now the media can not accept that they can not manipulate the viewers. They seem to compete with the Clintons who can best influence the people in general. Two States have proven that, media lose! Media can not accept losing because they have to highlight what happen in NEVADA with the delegates when in fact the delegates has not been decided yet. If they have to clarify things then make it complete and factual. Viewers are not stupid! Too bad I am beginning to believe that we can not trust the media anymore.

Martha, Georgia   January 20th, 2008 10:40 am ET

This is how Hillary says thank you to the Nevadan whom she conned and suckered in to voting for her:

"Now we're back here in the Midwest, where I'm from. I'm so happy to see all of you," Clinton, a Chicago native, said to cheers at a campaign rally late Saturday in this St. Louis suburb.

Nevadans, what kind of message does that send to you. Did she not feel comfortable in your town, was she not welcomed. Her gave the Nevadan that giggle, giggle, fake smile and I am out of here

man   January 20th, 2008 10:26 am ET

CNN is too bias!!
get a grip!
this is unethical

OrobMarl   January 20th, 2008 10:19 am ET

Dear Hillaries,

especially 40+ women and Latinos. Thank you for choosing the „turn out the republican vote in record numbers“ candidate. The morning after the presidential election take a close déjà vu look at the map and ask yourself: how could I be so naïve to believe, that after Gore and Kerry another one of these party favourites could break into the phalanx of red states (oh wait, yeah, just because she is a woman), when even at peace times a VP with best economical data on his application form couldn’t win his home state of TN.

And after that reality check, take a moment and think about history and the last two “inexperienced” democratic candidates who could manage to be elected with a lot of those red states on their electoral scorecard. Got the message?

This primary season is not about women against men, Afro Americans against WASP, woman against Afro Americans or Latinos against Afro Americans – it is about choosing a candidate who could take the country back from the big business cronies. Therefore the democrats need a candidate who can reach independents and republican middle class and not a candidate who, just by mentioning the name, will drive millions of republican voters to the voting cabins.

On the other hand maybe Dems are enjoy to look on red maps with blue window-dressing because deep inside they are kind of masochistic.

eric   January 20th, 2008 10:17 am ET

Bill plays really dirty , and it helps Hillary . He does not care about the party no more .she said it : it is personal . To get it they will play diiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrty all
away to day one

Hillary 08   January 20th, 2008 10:09 am ET

The Nevada caucus didn't go as smoothly as everyone thinks….we were in a precinct getting ready to be counted when all of a sudden a big bunch of people came into the hall and quickly were herded into the Obama section…they didn't register….the counting began….Obama won…..the head of the caucus called headquarters and told them that a number of people came in without registering and were counted….the Headquarters told her NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT!!!!…but we did notice that the woman seemingly in charge of the Obama section was none stop on the phone telling people to come…..but those people didn't register with the desk and quickly left as soon as the counting was over……

tina ny, ny   January 20th, 2008 10:05 am ET

Nita- just for record. I am university graduated with 6 figure yearly earning supports Clinton. Yes I am under 40 years of age.
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Nita January 20, 2008 2:44 am ET

"FOR ALL YOU IGNORANT AND LESS EDUCATED CLINTON SUPPORTERS"

Well? I guess I only have this to say – its all us ignorant and less educated people that will help Clinton get the nomination. Not to mention us old farts – you know? the baby boomers. Clinton is by far the best. Listen to her speak to listen to the song. The song isnt going to help you keep your job or home.

tina ny, ny   January 20th, 2008 9:56 am ET

Obama is like a little baby who can't hear voice of the voters. He needs to grow up.

Theo   January 20th, 2008 9:46 am ET

Did you see the picture of Bill in the papers? The proud papa with his smug expression…. as usual. Don't let this moron win the nomination, even though it won't matter when McCain gets elected!!

T. Watkins   January 20th, 2008 9:04 am ET

Over the last four years I always said if Hillary ran I would vote for her in a heartbeat, because I loved Bill. Well over the last year I have listened to all of the Democrats speak on what they can do for this great country. Well I've heard all of them say that we need a "Change" and Hillary said I have the "Experience" to make that change but what has "She" done over the last eight years in the senate to make a difference? Is she really asking us to vote for her because of what Bill, her husband, did to make a difference? I say lets really think about what we as a people really need leading us into our and our children future. Do we need a president when things get ruff "She'll cry" for it? There's no crying in politics! We need someone who can bring the UNITED STATES of America together first! Someone who has the capability to ask those hard questions, while being respectful. Someone that will hear and understand what we as a people NEED at thi s critical time in our country. That person I feel is Senator Obama. To Answer my favorite president of the United States, YES I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRY-TALES!!!

Tyler   January 20th, 2008 8:37 am ET

Well he is correct "Tom get for real" (funny name). But they arent pledged though to any candidate. CNN gets the superdelegate total from a survey that they do of the superdelegates. There are a couple hundred that have not yet decided who to support. Often times however, superdelegates vote the same direction the wind is blowing however. If you get what I mean.

EE   January 20th, 2008 8:30 am ET

Nina
If Hillary is the nominee for the Democrats in the presidential election she is
responsible for putting another Republican in the White House. Hillary is one of
the most divisive politicians in Washington and it will be four MORE years
of constant bickering. Not only along party lines but within the Democratic
Party.

She constantly takes an opponents ideas and spins them to fit with her
35 years of experience. Whatever that is. It's simply amazing to me how women
are suckered in by the I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman bit. I
remember when Bill ran for office and Hillary was not the little woman
who stayed home and baked. For political expediency she's now one of us.
And the spin. OH MY GOD ! Most politicians will spin any situations to fit their platforms
but it has now reached a new low with Bill and Hillary. I do wish Bill would
act with a lot more dignity befitting a former president.

I am a 63 year old black female undecided voter from Illinois. The one thing that I have decided is I WILL NOT vote for Hillary.

Tom get for real.   January 20th, 2008 8:26 am ET

tom davie, you sound like someone who supports Hillary.

Chris, Middletown, CT   January 20th, 2008 8:24 am ET

(other than voting for Clinton) add that to the "1000 dumb things Democrats do"

EE   January 20th, 2008 8:21 am ET

Nina
If Hillary is the nominee for the Democrats in the presidential election she is
responsible for putting another Republican in the White House. Hillary is one of
the most divisive politicians in Washington and it will be four MORE years
of constant bickering. Not only along party lines but within the Democratic
Party.

She constantly takes an opponents ideas and spins them to fit with her
35 years of experience. Whatever that is. It's simply amazing to me how women
are suckered in by the I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman bit. I
remember when Bill ran for office and Hillary was not the little woman
who stayed home and baked. For political expediency she's now one of us.
And the spin. OH MY GOD ! Most politicians will spin any situations to fit their
but it has now reached a new low with Bill and Hillary. I do wish Bill would
act with a lot more dignity befitting a former president.

I am a 63 year old black female undecided voter from Illinois. The one thing that I have decided is I WILL NOT vote for Hillary.

shawn   January 20th, 2008 8:20 am ET

Who is running for President? Bill or Hillary? This man is supposed to be the former President of the Untied States. Well, he did wave his finger at me 10 years ago and lied to the nation. I hope we don't get 8 more years of this junk. If you think that Mrs. Clinton and Bill can bring this nation back together after Bush then you have inhaled this stuff that Bill has been smoking.

Ray   January 20th, 2008 8:16 am ET

Poor Poor Obama Cult members. He lost and your trying to spin it that he got more delegates? BUT, they have not been rewarded AND press releases have been sent out saying the SAME thing.

WAKE UP!!

HILLARY 08!!

Tyler   January 20th, 2008 8:07 am ET

Even though Obama is two pledged delegates ahead, or if he winds SC and puts him a bit more ahead, then that few delegate margin wont matter once Hillary wins NY with its 232 delegates and erases that Obama lead margin there. Its going to be a tough fight on February 5th for the states.

Tyler   January 20th, 2008 8:05 am ET

And I havent heard Obama give Hillary a congrats…sounds kind of like a sore-loser type of thing. Its not good for Obama if he goes into SC all sour about losing in NV and overhyping the delegate estimate.

Tyler   January 20th, 2008 8:03 am ET

Just to clear up the delegate thing, the exact number of delegates for Obama and Clinton could change a bit at the national convention.

shanna   January 20th, 2008 7:32 am ET

Hillary won because people are starting to see the real obama,and its not nice.And cnn please get bill bennett off the panel.His hatred for Clinton comes across loud and clear,his personal opinion should not! be so played on us.Im tired of the tip-toeing around Obama, this is about the next president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,!

Joe, SoCal   January 20th, 2008 7:23 am ET

Why are Clinton supporters so angry? She won NH, she won NV, and she maintains a solid lead nationally, but all Clinton backers do is complain.

Please make a note on these few words of mine....   January 20th, 2008 6:25 am ET

A country of many religion, race, tribes, ideas, vision escetera, have suddenly forgotten that they are supposed to lead by example and not be divisive on issues that have divided others for over a 100 years. C'mon Americans vote with your hearts not with hatred because we all came to this world the same way and we will all leave this world the same way.

Please Note: White house should be given a new name (suggestion) not meant for ONLY one race beacuse we are all born equal. Take note

rusty   January 20th, 2008 5:57 am ET

Pure and simple, if Hillary gets the nomination, this democrat will vote republican, or independant. Another Clinton administration is not what this country needs. I hope the democrats think about this, because, if Hillary is the best they can come up with, the republicans will stay in the White House, no matter who their nominee is.

charlotte   January 20th, 2008 5:55 am ET

I watched the caucus process in Nevada. Thank God , the rest of the nation is a private process. I can see how people could be intimidated. The voting process should be improved. The caucus process is not an improvement. It is an amusement. Lets just stick to the little booth with a curtain and absoluletly no outside pressure. There are a lot of people who are easily pressured to do things they might not have done without peer pressure. Thus the term "peer pressure."
The little booth is the best, then we can scream it was rigged, demand a recount and cloud the process, and in the end, nothing changes. One thing we have learned in the process is no more punch cards, with hanging chads. Can an election be fixed? Yes! When a vote is confusing, Ex: Butterfly ballot, when a no vote is really a yes vote, things like that. The age of computers, where Identity theft is a real threat,, if someone wants to steal your vote they sure can. It is scary, but we cannot let the threats of hackers, terrorist etc. take away our rights to freedom. The right to vote is the fundamental right of our country. WE must exercise that right. If you disagree with me or not. PLEASE VOTE People who make stupid comments, like "I'll move if so and so wins," who will cut off their noses to spite their faces, those kinds of comments make me very sad

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 5:51 am ET

By the way, those who say Hillary leads in delegates are wrong. She has more superdelegates, but those aren't pledged and can change their minds.

I have this feeling we won't know who the nominee is for months

Super delegates are people who pledge their support to whatever candidate they want. Usually high ranking officials within the party.

They dont have to pick a candidate . They can just come and hang around until they DO endorse someone.

But if they are counted in Hillarys count, they HAVE been pledged. Same with Obama.

There are probably a hundred or more still out there.

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 5:40 am ET

There is no official word as to if obama got 13 and clinton 12 . This doesnt get resolved until April.

What is for certain is 2 things:

-Clinton won the state 51% which means she beat both edwards an obama combined. The first time One candidate beat the other 2 combined.

except michigan ,which doesnt count.

Clinton won 5355 state delegates.

Obamba won 4773 state delegats

seems simple so far. ……………….

Except now we get to be told some votes dont mean as much as other votes. They are going to parcell them all out according to some funky systme that hasent been played out yet. In april it will be finally determined how many you get.

So obama is taking 13 and hillary 12. as a 'quess' He doesnt want to wait until april to get his delgates.

So he 'claims he won' cause he might have 13 delegates????

Even if Obama buys this crap himself, he sould at least concede defeat to Hillary for the state. She beat him soundly on the state delegates and by 6% in the popular vote.

But NOPE.

What a PUNK

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Sam IA   January 20th, 2008 4:57 am ET

Lynn, if You are a democrat,I'm an alien:) It is spelled DEMOCRAT. Rush must have misspelled it in your talking point breifing:) Please don't vote for the Clintons. That 8 years of economic boom and balanced budget must have been real hard on you. Enjoy another 2 years of the GW recession. I'm betting on the Queen of Hearts!!!!! Don't you Hillary haters just love it, She won on a QUEEN of HEARTS!!!!

Honan   January 20th, 2008 4:41 am ET

Are journalists writing these stories or idiotic misinformed media hacks? GET THE FACTS FIRST BEFORE YOU REPORT – PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU POST MISINFORMATION!!
NEVADA HAS NOT ASSIGNED NATIONAL DELEGATES! HILLARY CLINTON WON THE NEVADA CAUCUS!!!
THE OFFICIAL statements from Nevada are:

**OFFICIAL Statement by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Jill Derby: (Las Vegas, NV) "The Nevada Democratic Party and its officials have taken great effort to maintain our neutrality in the presidential campaign and the integrity of our process. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention, of which Senator Clinton won the majority. No national convention delegates were awarded. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."

Las Vegas Sun latest report:
Clinton’s win over Barack Obama in Nevada gives her much-needed momentum going into next Saturday’s South Carolina Democratic primary, where Obama was seen as having an advantage because of that state’s large African-American population.

Her victory today included a stunning showing at the nine controversial at-large sites on the Las Vegas Strip — where she won seven of those precincts.

However, during the late afternoon, the Culinary-backed Obama campaign tried to throw some cold water on Clinton’s victory.

Using arcane caucus math and a formula that figured in Obama’s results in rural Nevada, his camp insisted that Obama actually won Nevada by taking 13 of the Silver State’s 25 national delegates. However, party leaders put out a statement saying Obama’s camp was flat wrong.

it   January 20th, 2008 4:39 am ET

who won again??

yours trully   January 20th, 2008 4:38 am ET

why couldnt they use a game of chess instead of cards, cmon at leat chess would have `em thinking.anybody can pick a card look hillary just picked the rite one.
isnt this laughable, is this the kind of democracy the us is preaching to the rest of the world??? look at the delegates, hrc has more than any other democrat and God knows what she patted with in return.this delegates then choose the winner at the conventional..isnt it easier to manipulate less ppl than a whole lot.the delegates system is just to keep the ppl ignorant while a few run the show. whatever happend to the popular vote….yea let the people decide. gore won over bush on the popular vote but hey this democracy is run by a few not the majority get that in your head…….i laugh at this kind of democracy.
anybody mind explaining why we cant vote directly to the candidates. well i hope the delegates,not me, will vote for barack!!!!!!

Rima   January 20th, 2008 3:57 am ET

Swede, don't forget 4- Obama also thinks he is Ronald Reagan.

SOUTHERNGIRL   January 20th, 2008 3:56 am ET

I am a Hillary supporter and I am African American. She has the subtances and the HEART to be president of the USA. Yes, there is alot in trash in her yard but show me a politican who has a clean yard. Let's face it, Washington as a whole is a ugly place and NO ONE has clean hands. But, she has the machine, the smarts and a PLAN of direction for this nation. I am proud to cast my vote for her. Obama is good but I need more than a vision of potential hope and change. I will take her 8 years as first lady and Queen Bee and let's see what she can do in the white house. Currently, this nation is low and the massive bear (USA) is weak and we must recover and recover quickly. Our international standing has been compromised and domestic polices completely ignored over the past eight years, she will definitely be a breathe of fresh air. Please ignored the media and it attempts to predict what each state, each base and each ethnic group will do and allow the democratic process to play itself out. Hopefully, faith with the democratic process has been restored and let's PRAY it holds.

Thanks

me   January 20th, 2008 3:53 am ET

As an Edwards or Obama supporter, I have to say I am sorry to see today's results. If Hillary is the candidate, I will have to vote Republican this year. I can't stomach the conniving witch.

I truly hope that if she wins, many people either do a write in for their favorite candidate or vote Republican. She is not what this country needs and I would go competely against my political beliefs to keep such a self-centered, self-serving person out of the highest office in the land. Give her the four years – nothing will get done, it will be a dead locked congress because even a good majority of her own party can't stand her. God help us if this evil troll gets elected.

jerzee gal   January 20th, 2008 3:26 am ET

aware ,what did she ever do for you? Women are treated bad all over the globe, I know she can't change that. Chances are if you live in America you never experienced half of the thing you listed. Not to mention hillary has not either. UNaware is what hillary was the day before the Iowa caucus. You shouldn't vote for her because she's a woman or for Obama because he is black. Vote because you are aware, of the facts!!! He did not divide the democrats, she did by trying to force the race issue. MLK had nothing to do with this election but she brought it up. Pay attention. When did Obama respond to what she said, after she accused him of responding(which he did not!!!)I think that Americia needs some one who is honest, not manipulative. If she wins i a black woman would actually vote republican. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only card that counts for me is my voters reg. card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or anybody but hillary!!!!

canadian13   January 20th, 2008 3:22 am ET

I am Canadian. I’ve listened to and studied about every candidate; I probably know their web sites better than they do and this is what I have to say. I love Obama, what he wants to do is going to be hard, not just for him but for the entire country but it’s all stuff that needs to be done. I like McCain, I think he would do well and he’s less of a risk then Obama is but I don’t see him making all the changes the US needs. Clinton scares me and it’s not because she’s a woman and it’s not because of her husband; something about that woman is off.

When I think about the Queen of Hearts all I can think about is the quote 'off with her head!' from Alice in Wonderland

proud florida democrat   January 20th, 2008 3:16 am ET

Obama is ignoring the popular votes significence in Nevada. He chose to take his name off the Michigan ballot and tried to in Florida.

Now his campaign is saying that the Florida vote does not matter!?!?!?!

For a supposed "champion" of voters rights hes been ignoring over a MILLION VOTERS!!!!!!

Tracy   January 20th, 2008 3:15 am ET

America and I Love Hillary!
Congrats on winning Nevada!

Hillary '08

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 3:15 am ET

Talk about 'divider' .

Isnt Obama the great UNITER?

Uniter of what?

He has engaged in a race fight, with ONE OF HIS OWN DEMOCRATS.

He cant win the 45 and over vote, which is the MAJORITY of the voting population, due to his obvious inexperience.

He cites RONALD REGAN as one of his heros when hes actually supposed to UNITE the Democratic party .

I bet John Kerry and others are so HAPPY they endorsed Obama now.

I can just see Kerry FLIP OVER BACKWARDS when Obama admired Reagan so.

whats next?

Obama going to start convincing people Richard Nixon was innocent?

TLC   January 20th, 2008 3:14 am ET

Concerned Citizen,

Please get your facts straight. Obama supporters are not sore losers, in fact we are not any kind of losers. We won in the area that matters and Senator Obama pulled farther ahead on delegates who are actually committed to a candidate as opposed to those Senator Clinton has, whose states haven't expressed their preference as yet . I'm happy with that

While Senator Clinton gave a speech after her Iowa loss, Senator Obama gave one after his New Hampshire loss. In this case, I'm fairly sure he was on his way to South Carolina. In truth I don't think that either Clinton is a place to look for grace or truth in speech.

angela   January 20th, 2008 3:07 am ET

WOW!!
Queen of Hearts for Hillary
and 10 of Spades for Obama???
How funny is that????
No wonder Obama didn't congratulate Hillary for her Nevada win. He must be seriously miffed. Poor guy. Oh, well.
The queen of hearts is going all the way to the White House.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cnn, please post this. thank you.

Nita   January 20th, 2008 2:46 am ET

Revised: Listen to her speak versus the song. The song that isn't going to help you keep your job or home. Clinton is the best candidate running. Please let's not let another republican into the whitehouse.

Nita   January 20th, 2008 2:44 am ET

"FOR ALL YOU IGNORANT AND LESS EDUCATED CLINTON SUPPORTERS"

Well? I guess I only have this to say – its all us ignorant and less educated people that will help Clinton get the nomination. Not to mention us old farts – you know? the baby boomers. Clinton is by far the best. Listen to her speak to listen to the song. The song isnt going to help you keep your job or home.

Nita   January 20th, 2008 2:35 am ET

January 19, 2008 8:21 pm ET

So Latinos can't support a black man huh!! Well we as black americans need to send a message to these latinos and show them that we will support our own candidate. Latinos needs whites to help soften their stance on immigration. Well this will backfire. We will not let latinos treat our candidate this way. If they want to support a candidate because of the color then we will do the same for Barack. GO BARACK!!!

Its not that Latinos cant support a black man. Get real. It's that latinos cant support Obama. Plain and simple.

Clinton 08 – At least we haven't forgotten among the other minorities in this country that haven't been mentioned.

aware   January 20th, 2008 2:31 am ET

Flip a coin or pick a card – that is how it is done. The Queen of Hearts is quite appropriate in this situation. :)

Obama is premature in his run for president. His candidacy has divided the Dems over race and gender. It also shows his poor judgment in going ahead without thinking through the inherent division.

Women of every color and race all over the world have been dehumanized for thousands of years, and it is still going on. They are disenfranchized, ridiculed, beaten, raped, murdered, stoned, mutilated, burned, enslaved in today's thriving sex trade, and much more. Don't be a part of this list by maligning any woman in mean or vicious ways.

Hillary represents hope and help for oppressed women and their children everywhere.

Hillary 08

Murry   January 20th, 2008 2:25 am ET

CNN needs to show Nevada as a toss up instead of showing Hillary having won. Obama has more delegates.
We don't need another manager, we have plenty of them. We need a leader with vision that can unite us.
Vote Obama '08

James Brown ( Independent )   January 20th, 2008 2:16 am ET

The only thing keeping Clinton in this thing right now is John Edwards. As soon as he is out of the way , Obama will leave Clinton in the rear view mirror.

Clinton is un-electable in the General Election.

robby   January 20th, 2008 2:16 am ET

Is Hillary White and if so why has she abandoned her own people by acting like they do not exist?

concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona   January 20th, 2008 2:12 am ET

Also forgot to mention did anyone else notice Hillary gave a speech after Obama won Iowa but Obama didn't give a speech congradulating her on her win. That sure is a sign of arrogance and poor sportsmanship.

concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona   January 20th, 2008 1:38 am ET

Obama supporters sore losers! I still believe not every African American is going to vote for Obama. Just because the media says it doesn't make it so. At least I hope that the vote is not divided by race. I hope an honest decision is made to vote for the person that represents what they want for a president. It will be a sad day when that is how we vote based on race. The media is sure trying to fuel this.I don't like the arrogance of Obama and his wife especially, that is why I will not vote for him. Has nothing to do with race. Besides I am stubborn and do not like the media telling me who is going to win. Who are they to try to coronate Obama.

idahosa   January 20th, 2008 1:29 am ET

kudos to HRC on her nevada victory. however, my support still goes to obama whom i know has the ability to lead america to acheive its goals.

before the election started, no one ever expected or anticipated that the democratic race will be this keenly contested. obama was a complete right-off as "experienced hillary and her husband" were highly favored to make a public spectacle of him and the others.

the young senator is fighting a good fight and rewriting the history books. bill has had to tag with hillary to be able to contend with this dynamic, vibrant and intelligent young senator. little wonder what it would have been like if bill had never been president, or if he had remained in the back seat like most of the spouses of the other canidates.

i pray that the obama camp will look beyond this recently concluded nevada vote, regroup and move on. the battle continues!!!

mike   January 20th, 2008 1:29 am ET

she is a winner I'm so happy she going to crush the elephant in washinton dc

swede   January 20th, 2008 1:25 am ET

GO HIllary! Obama has at least three personalities 1. He thinks he's MLK 2. He thinks he's J Kennedy #3..He thinks he's better than all of them. Lots of people have came from poor back rounds but he acts as if he's the only one.

Jackie   January 20th, 2008 1:19 am ET

What a tag team the Clintons are. Who is running for president, Hillary or Bill? It is an embarrassing example of american democracy watching the antics of the Clintons. They should be ashamed of themselves for the example they are setting for our youths and shame on you Bill Clinton. You no longer have my support Hillary. Go Obama.

Gil - California   January 20th, 2008 1:14 am ET

One thing that has happened in Nevada is that the stunts by Hillary and the teacher's union has erased any sympathy I had for teachers in their fights for pay increases, smaller classrooms and the like. You want to drive a wedge into this party, fine. But you've also driven a wedge between your desires and the people that may have had sympathy for your agenda.

Chris, Orlando FL   January 20th, 2008 1:07 am ET

Hillary is the queen of MY heart… I LOVE that gal! And she's going all the way to the White House. Go Hillary!

Jeffim, Miami, Fl   January 20th, 2008 1:02 am ET

it's pretty weird how abamanites dare to say 'Hillary supporters are so angy'
obama supporters, YOU are why he will never win. you preach HATRED while he's preaching NICE. wow!

Mike, Eugene, Oregon   January 20th, 2008 12:42 am ET

It doesn't require "spin" to understand this Clinton "victory". It was out and racism. Nevada, like Utah, is a Mormon state. Mormonism teaches that African's all have "the mark of Cain". Until quite recently, Mormanism wouldn't even allow full black people to have full membership and they couldn't hold any of their priestly offices. There is a residual of racism in Mormanism and here are lots of Mormon offshoots that broke off from mainstream Mormanism when the church leaders decided to allow people of African linage full membership…most of those are in Nevada. So, Clinton's "victory" ought to be worn like a scarlet letter. Same for Romney. Shame on them and shame on the racists that crow about their hollow "victory".

Lilly   January 20th, 2008 12:38 am ET

Stop trying to pull the "bIllary" argument. It is old and it is baseless.

Mich   January 20th, 2008 12:28 am ET

It completely amazes me how much americans are crying out for change
but yet here they are voting in throngs for another dynasty of Clintons
More of the same …..
If democracy was meant to be this way you would still be voting for Abe Lincolns
ancestors
I have my doubts she can beat the republicans if she is nominated
however a Clinton Obama ticket either way is a winner against anyone!
Despite the negativity they should always keep in mind they are both democrats

SC for Hillary   January 20th, 2008 12:24 am ET

All of you anti-Clinton people, stop making a fool of yourself, if Obama had the experience,and substance and was not just an empty suit, who deliver speeches that someone else write , he would not have any concerns, but any democrat running for president patrionize Ronald Reagan who is republican is in over his head. HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE

Maris   January 20th, 2008 12:21 am ET

For those who keep saying you won't vote for Hillary if she wins the Democratic nomination, know that the same can be said of Obama's nomination. Obviously, we'll move ahead without your divisive attitudes. CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY ON WINNING THE NEVADA CAUCAS!!!

Jane   January 20th, 2008 12:10 am ET

I am sick of people stating that they will vote Republican if Hillary wins. How is that helping you? There isn't a Republican willing to end the war, nor willing to help the middle class. Why are there so few Republican African Americans or Latinos? Because the Republicans are not inclusive! How will that help you?
Having a Republican president and a Democratic Congress hasn't worked, so how is voting for a Republican helping there?

If you don't like Hillary, and she turns out to be the nominee, then stay home and don't vote! Voting Republican and hoping that it won't be Romney is just plain stupid Roz!

jon   January 20th, 2008 12:09 am ET

i just don`t know why bill is so desperate to go back to the white house,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i kknow he was a good president,,,,,,,,,but don`t he think amricans need a new face,in the white house not bush and clinton,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe after that will be waiting for the daughter.lol

Jane   January 20th, 2008 12:02 am ET

Only in America can the election process be so ridiculous!

Caucuses, delegates, some get to vote at work while others have to take off work to caucus, some caucus in the evening, some in the middle of a day, Democrats and Republicans voting on different days in the same state, winning a state by 6% but getting fewer delegates, some states are winner take all, some states get all the attention, etc.

It is totally ridiculous that the parties themselves get to make the rules.
Something needs to be done about this.

shaun   January 19th, 2008 11:59 pm ET

When will you idiots get. Obama can't win. Not in this country at least. If african americans vote for him then the media will spin it and make it seem as if he got the vote because he's black. This will anger whites who have the majority in this county leading them to play the race card back. Tothe media will continue to have only black commentators talk about what obama's doing on the campaign trail which will further cement the notion that its blacks against whites, and clinton who started the race politics will sit back and collect dirty votes from a plan she and her cohorts conspired after they lost Iowa. It was team clintons stance from the very beginning to incorportate race into the campaign so that white voters would turn on obama and vote for her, and it was perfect because this country will always be racially divided. It only takes a pinky to tap the button causing an explosion, and she knew this. Now the race isn't about issues, but about race. Hillary destroyed her relationship with african americans because of her dirty politics, but that might be the best thing she could've done. She can conceed the black vote because she knows she'll have the white one. Obama was doing great going beyond gender and race in iowa, but when clinton got desperate she decided not only hurt her party, but the nation by promoting division to get the white house any way she could. Way to go hillary and why to go cnn for all of the honest, unbiased coverage.

Ray   January 19th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Im Happy! Go Hillary!!!

Obama Cult members are just said that he lost.

Mirta   January 19th, 2008 11:52 pm ET

Ridiculous that this was decided by a draw of the cards. To all of the Obama supporters who say "If she wins, I won't vote for her", if BHO wasn't running, who would you vote for? Edwards? IMHO, he is likely to be the VP.

JohnS   January 19th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

There is a delegate scorecard on CNN's website, and a tutorial about how the delegate selection and nominee selection process works. Many delegates are already listed there, even though their primaries haven't happened yet. Clinton is ahead by quite a large margin. And South Carolina has only 2 delegates.

Queen of Hearts. I love it.

This writer is ill-informed. That information is a "probablity" calculator; do you understand what a "probablity calculator really is? How many races have you observed to date to come up with such high delegate counts? Indeed ignorance is bliss. We should send some of these voters to the Congo Basin in Africa!!!!

DB   January 19th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

Hey Tom Davie,
Most of the delegates Hillary has did not go through the any voting, how is that fair at all? The super delegates should be completely removed, but this system has been in place for many years.

Remember that the primaries are not for you to choose who to run for President, but for your party to choose.

What?   January 19th, 2008 11:48 pm ET

I don't want the media and posters on this board speaking for me. I live in SC, I am black and I will vote for Hillary.

Also, people are free to vote however they want, but why is it that people on here are always threatening to vote for a republican if Hillary or Obama wins – good and loyal democrats, please get over your anger and support whomever the democratic nominee is. This is not American Idol – it's our lives – republicans will continue to ruin everything (even McCain). I will never abandon my party.

PS: The person who stated that Hillary supporters are angry – wow, the pot calling the kettle black!!!!

Bethany, St. Louis MO   January 19th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

this is legal? Seriously?

James Lucas Clemmons NC   January 19th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

I thought the polls showed Obama leading in Nevada. .. gee. … I'm starting to love whoever is taking these polls. … Looks like the American voters is not really speaking until its time to vote. … how cool is that. Oprah and John Kerry. … are you listening. …. the American voters will make up their mind on their own regardless of influence and polls.

JohnS   January 19th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

Hillary is leading in the Delagate votes by a HUGE margin to even encompass Edwards votes.

She has 220 to obamas 122 or something.

Its acutally embarassing that the candidate with 6% less vote wins MORE delegates. Its not democratic. Bill Clinton was obviously right.

In 2012, I would prefer it be a private vote so there is no peer pressure , and just award the delegates on a popular vote.

PLEASE GUIDE US TO THIS STATISTICS (i.e, URL) SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER INFORMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JohnS   January 19th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

While Obama might have more delegates, Hillary has more delegates overall.. by about 100!! IF you want to get technical, HIllary STILL comes out winning. It's about time people realize that while OBama speaks nice and preaches, he has no substance and he hasn't said anything about how he plans to implement the changes he proposes. His lack of experience makes him unelectable. I'll tell you what, OBama supporters: let's pick Obama for VP and let him get on-the-job training with Clinton, and I will vote for him in 8 years (after Hillary's 2 terms).

Who DID Hillary bribe to get about 100 delegates only after a few races? Please guide me to the URL, Mr/Ms. KNOW-ALL

esperanza   January 19th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

If blacks vote for blacks then blacks should not complain if whites vote for whites. This will bring back the issue of racism. Results in SC will trigger this. Too bad that this issue will surface because whites are still the majority in this country. I am still undecided but with what is going on I may vote for Hillary.

Tim Calhoun '08, Moreno Valley, CA   January 19th, 2008 11:24 pm ET

Gee, good to see Vegas hasn't changed…

By the way, those who say Hillary leads in delegates are wrong. She has more superdelegates, but those aren't pledged and can change their minds.

I have this feeling we won't know who the nominee is for months.

AJ, IL   January 19th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

DON….

Let's be clear here…Hillary Clinton is the Democratic establishment favorite to win the nomination. She was the favorite back in March 2007. Obama is the underdog. Obama went from polls numbers that had him 20+pts behind Hillary in all the past caucauses and primary other than Iowa to winning one and being within 3 to 7pts of overtaking Hillary in the other contests.

The CNN total delegate scorecard is not totally meaningless but you should not look at CNN's total delegate scorecard as 100% factual. It is a projection. Obama leads Clinton, slightly, in the delegate count where the Democratsand some Independents gets together and vote. Clinton leads Obama in the superdelegate count. Superdelegates are Democratic members of Congress and members of the Democratic National Committee who endorse a candidate. Remember the recent media stories of John Kerry and Patrick Leahy endorsing Obama. Both of these guys are superdelegates.

Hillary Clinton has more superdelegates, well lets be honest, due to Bill Clinton. A majority of the superdelegates have known Richardson, Dodd, and Biden for years but yet did not endorse them. However, superdelegates can change there votes at any time between now and the Democratic national convention.

This nomination race has developed into a real contest for Hillary who was described by the media and many Democrats back in June 2007 as the dominant candidate in the race that would easily win.

OBAMA in '08!

Bill   January 19th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

Obama spinning a tale about delagates.

WashingtonPost.com

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the declared winner of the Nevada caucuses. But Sen. Barack Obama's campaign says he walked away with one more delegate than Clinton.

Not so fast, says the Nevada Democratic Party. "Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention," said Jill Derby, chairwoman of the Nevada Democrats. "No national convention delegates were awarded."

Huffington Post.com:

"Hillary Clinton won the Nevada Caucuses today by winning a majority of the delegates at stake. The Obama campaign is wrong. Delegates for the national convention will not be determined until April 19." Jill Derby, Chair of the Nevada State Party, also spoke out on delegates as the results came in. She emphasized that national delegate counts are "based upon an assumption that delegate preferences will remain the same," when in fact they could change at the convention. Derby added a disconcerting line to hammer the point home: "We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."

Translation: If this thing is close, "we" party insiders will "choose" for the rest of the state.

CNN has the delegate vote Obama 38 Clinton 36 Edwards 18 a 2 delegate difference with the magic number being 2025.

CNN has total delegate vote including SuperDelegates Obama 123 Clinton 210 Edwards 52 out of the magic number of 2,025

My advice to the Obama camp move on and stop talking about delegate counts then people will start looking West where Clinton will have the edge over Obama. Does anyone really believe Clinton will loose her Senate seat state of New York or neighboring New Jersey. Florida has a large Latino population and is more friendly ground to Clinton than Obama. The governor of Ohio has already stated Clinton could win there. Without any of these states the democratic nominee cannot win the nomination or the general election.

Christine NJ   January 19th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

Winner is the Winner, Loser is the Loser, DO NOT need to angry. 'destiny' was given by GOD.

Eric in Massachusetts   January 19th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Michael, why do all blacks need to vote for Obama? That is so incredibly racist. Disgusting.

Connie   January 19th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

Hillary was willfully sent to block Obama from winning for the democratic primary and she will willfully lose in November to a Republican. Because, the Republican must continue the war in Iraq. I do not trust this election. Everything about this election appears to be very weird and fishy. Hillary did not win New Hampshire or Nevada. There is something going on behind close doors and we will never know the answer. America should rise up and protest against this election. This scandal!!!!! AND FOR THE RECORD I AM A WOMAN..AND I AM AGAINST HILLARY..Most women do not support that Hillary. I am ashamed to have her as my president. She has played the most dirtiest politics I have ever seen. I have no respect for her and I will leave America if she wins the general election. HILLARY IS BADDDD NEWS!

Thank you for your understanding!

charlieblaze   January 19th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

Well, congratulations for Clinton part 2 supporters. Hillary won. Something that I have to say that bothers me is that so many people have stated flat out that they were voting for her because she is a woman. Just read Gloria Steinem's explanation for her advocacy of Clinton. Yet, if Obama or any supporters make any mention of his race being a criteria for their voting, it becomes the "Race Card." Then, they are all villified, even though Hillary plays a "Gender Card." No one should vote for someone based on their race or gender, but it is apparent from some of the comments here that it is the reason. I guess Hillary being the nominee will completely liberate all women from the male patriachy and thus an African American would have to wait their turn years later.

So, while I want Obama to win the nomination, it will be fine if Hillary wins. I sincerely hope that all genders will be equal, since sexism is such as debilitating issue. Maybe after Hillary's presidential terms, then racism can be addressed too. And please do not tell me that some of her support and advocacy doesn't come from her gender.

Baffled   January 19th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Veronica – Check again…
South Carolina has 54 total delegates… 2 of which Hillary already has.

Patrick, New York,Ny   January 19th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

CLINTON 08!!

Hillary CLinton: Hope without the Hype!!

JAM   January 19th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

I thought Obama was supposed to win this one. It is just a matter of time until his supporters claim some kind of cheating or a conspiracy . He just lost and that is it.

I think the Hispanics turned the tide on this one. Clinton needs to forget about the Black vote and concentrate on the Hispanic vote if she wants to win. I have been listening to the Blacks talk about why they are voting for Obama and for the most part they are voting for him because of race. She cannot win that one so she may as well concede it and focus on the voters she has a chance to sway.

WaaWaabama   January 19th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

That's sad that a card pull decided…this could have meant a lot on who won the state.
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Huh? Hillary Clinton won thousands of delegates 51% of them. 1 delegate would equal about.0001% of the total. The totals are delegate totals not actual vote totals. Dehr.

Twigster   January 19th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Has an Obama supporter who was in the room come forward to confirm this? Folks will just say anything for their 15 minutes.

WaaWaabama   January 19th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

one of her supporters pulled out the queen of hearts — besting the 10 of spades for Obama.
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LMAO!

Oh the irony!

By the way, why didn't Obama congratulate Hillary Clinton or even thank his supporters in Nevada?!? Talk about a sore loser and ungrateful!

Margarita, Los Angeles   January 19th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

HEY TOM DAVIE I GUESS YOU NEED TO WEAR SOMETHING UNDER THAT SKIRT… HILLARY HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY 15 MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS… IM BLACK AND YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ME. GO HILLARY

don fisk   January 19th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

So00000, Paul beats McCain, Huckeberry, thompson Guiliani etc and is NEvER mentioned in the news stations as coming in second with 14% of the vote in Nevada .
Boo!

Katherine   January 19th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

If Hillary wins the nomination, let's pray that Bloomberg enters the race. I couldn't vote for a Republican because of what it could mean for the Supreme Court. . .but Bloomberg is really a Dem anyway. He's the best second choice.

I also pray that Edwards stays in up to the convention and then his delegates go to Obama. If he gets out too soon, it gives the Clintons too much time to use some dirty tricks to get his delegates!

anon middle america   January 19th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

Jed in Texas January 19, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Lets just call it a CRAP SHOOT. LOL And the Crap won .

^^^^^^^^^^ Jed scrape the cow pies off your boots and start counting the days until "Your Village gets its Idiot back" ;)

Can't hardly wait until all the little GOP pointy heads explode in unison heheheh

HERE'S yet another woman we shall all have to hope is NOT Pro-Choice?! Maybe she's never heard of Roe vs Wade and the increasingly conservative leaning of the US Supreme Court?! = Ella January 19, 2008 8:27 pm ET

If Hilary wins the nomination I will vote republican
I am a woman but I will never vote for Hilary.

Cut off your own noses to spite your faces :( BUT a true Democratic woman who supports the Democratic platform will NEVER vote for a Republican – but it is your right to choose to stay home… or kiss womens' rights good-bye.

ANOTHER OBAMA BABY ~Tom Davie pull your skirt down~ = Are you all 3rd graders trying to peek up everyone's kilts?!

AND to sairefgm January 19, 2008 8:47 pm ET "To everyone This has become too much for me."

Have a nice glass of French Bordeaux and take a Spa Day sweetie. Indulge yourself… go on a shopping spree, the sputtering economy needs your help. It's been suffering since all these upscale Obama yuppie guppies have been spending all their time on the blogs and youtube, rather than at the malls!! We're sure that Obama could singlehandedly stave off the recession just by telling all "his supporters" Go Out And Buy Buy Buy as usual… Gotta luv 'em

Whatever..Clinton   January 19th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

With Hillary we have four more years of the same old stuff, and the possiblity of losing seats in Congress. She is divisive, and the Clinton politics leaves a lot to be desired. I suggest all you Clinton supporters try fact checking before making accusations. By the way, Barack won almost every county outside of Clark County – overwhelmingly. I guess whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
Go Barack Obama!

Pat   January 19th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

Republicans are all for Hillary winning primary elections AND general election. They are loading their guns for her as we speak. Obama is my choice for the next President of the United States, with John Edwards as V.P. What a winning ticket that would be!!!

Rob   January 19th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Hillary is running on experience, if she wins the nomination who on the republican side has less experience than her? no one, she will look stupid.

So she will run as the candidate of change,

……..not a good showing there either.

ABC

trueblue   January 19th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

When did all the racist decide to support Hillary Clinton?

You idiots better tone it down, because she hasn't won anything yet. And the outrageously racial hostility in your attitudes towards Obama, may wind up hurting Hillary more than you think down the line. Not everyone in your party has the same ugly attitude as you.

joel   January 19th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

Interesting with Clinton's Navada win: The Clintons by injecting race into this scheme, has figured that winning the Whithouse without Black support is worth it with the gamble that they would win over Blacks after she takes office. This could change history, by moving 30-40 percent of Black voters into the Republican party if McCain is the winner. After 4 to 8 years the Clinton's will be history and it wouldn't too much matter to them what happends to the democratic party. They have figured it out that they can win with the women, hispanics, and some of the south… Very interesting how the country is intergrating…

Danny   January 19th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

May God have mercy on you, Americans, if the Clintons hit The House again…!!

Young, but brighter than you   January 19th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Sadly, people are still too in love with the Clinton's. Obama has had a fantastic political career; he spent his life in public service to the poor, fighting corporate corruption and advocating for improved health care. He was considered a skilled negotiator during his 8 years as state senator, who could get stuff done across party lines. He has been known to always be above the fray, and spent his political life advocating unity between parties for better legislation. He is a worthy candidate.

But he never ran against the Clinton machine. And the Clinton's will rip your heart out and eat it in front of you, if they think it will win them an election. Rutheless and without any shame is what I'm saying. And democrats love the Clinton's like a farm pig loves slop. They can't get enough.

Hopefully we will eventually get rid of these entrenched political families, and get some new political blood in there to take us to a better future. But what's really sad is all this racism that has come out of this. I'd be surprised if black democrats don't sit out this general election.

Uggh, politics! it brings out the ugliness in all of us.

38 delegates to 36 delegates   January 19th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Sorry Hillary friends maybe next time….Obama 13 delegates Hillary 12. Congrats on your popular vote. But ask Al Gore if that worked for him. And yes, that's a total of 38 for Obama and 36 for Hillary. Not the superdelegates we all know those are not final delegate counts. Good luck next week will see you in SC.
OBAMA 08!!!!!!

HillandBillMMM   January 19th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

QUEEN OF HEARTS? LAUGHABLE TRY QUEEN OF THE MOST DEVIOUS OFMEANS.DIVISIVE…DIVISIVE Hill and Bill have done it again only this time they have managed to do UNREPARAGEABLE DAMAGE TO THEIR PARTY. Lets start with the states: when she was about to loose in NH, wanted to play the "female" card and split the women against the men… on to SC; she divides the Blacks against the Whites. Coming out of the Nevada she wants you to know it was the White Females and Latino vote that carried her this time. SO what might I ask are you to say if you are Asian, or if you are an Indian American, oops I am sorry your vote doesn't matter because it is time to DIVIDE OVER RACE, AND GENDER PRIDE Instead of recognize that ALL Americans are suffering, and care about the economy, healthcare and education. How pathetic, I would like to serve notice on those you pulling for her BEFORE her and campaign began 40% of Americans said they would not vote for her after what I have seen if HILLARY CLINTON IS THE CHOICE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY I TOO AM VOTING McCain. At least I know I would get someone who lust for the white house wouldn't pit the whole county against each other.

Teejay   January 19th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Reading some of the comments here, it seemed alot of folks do not know who actually triumphed in Nevada. H.Clinton may have won the popular vote in Nevada, but it was Obama who won more delegates. And thats what is most important in US presidential primaries.

# of delegates prior to Nevada caucus
OBAMA = 25
HILLARY = 24
EDWARD = 18

Current # of delegates.
OBAMA = 38
HILLARY = 36
EDWARD = 18

This is still a victory for all Obama Supporters. Congrats!

Willy   January 19th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

How the cheesey Senator Clinton and her ilk keep alive is beyond me. The media is working overtime to keep there honey pie around. I guess some people are used to be bent over and over again.

James   January 19th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

Go team Clinton!!!!!

anon middle america   January 19th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Joe January 19, 2008 8:24 pm ET

Roll dice, draw cards,whatever you want…we're all going to HELL if
Hillary wins….so I'll just have another ice cold BEER….aaahhhhh!!!

^^^^^^^^Joe I think you need to add a little ;)

Naive little Obamafans don't understand that the GOP would NOT give him a free ride. If he and his supporters think that the campaign trail has been nasty – they ain't seen nothing yet (oh sorry now we'll be accused of fear mongering and scaring all the little lambs).

As to those who like to whine about Hillary's negative numbers, did they ever take a gander at Obama's which were even higher until Oprah stepped in?! BUT unfortunately OPRAH is the one who first played the race card in SC by invoking Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. AND then she and Obama and Michelle stood on the stage in the middle of the stadium and raised their fists in black unity!! Sorry but if that wasn't playing the racial card, did the rest of us miss something?? I'm willing to listen to how the African American community would view it if Hillary or Bill had done the same?

mongoslayd   January 19th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

Nik T
You spout your crap about experience and how Hillary has more but, let's not forget that her "experience" helped get us into a war that's gotten just a FEW American's killed and/or wounded. How come her "experience didn't tell her that the WMD arguement from the administration was crap? At the bare minimum, Obama had enough sense to realize it was a mistake. Oh yea, so did Hillary… 4 years later!

FIRSTWOMAN4PRES   January 19th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

I hope supporters of Hill and Bill are Happy, because I have never seen a more DIVISIVE couple in my entire life. When she was about to loose in NH, wanted to play the "female" card and split the women against the men. Next she goes down to SC; she divides the Blacks against the Whites. Coming out of the Nevada she wants you to know it was the White Females and Latino vote that carried her this time. SO what might I ask are you to say if you are Asian, or if you are an Indian American, oops I am sorry your vote doesn't matter because it is time to DIVIDE OVER RACE, AND GENDER PRIDE Instead of recognize that ALL Americans are suffering, and care about the economy, healthcare and education. How pathetic, I would like to serve notice on those you pulling for her BEFORE her and campaign began 40% of Americans said they would not vote for her after what I have seen if HILLARY CLINTON IS THE CHOICE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY I TOO AM VOTING McCain. At least I know I would get someone who lust for the white house wouldn't pit the whole county against each other.

Roz   January 19th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

if billary wins the nominee, i shall also vote rep. praying its not romney for he reminds me too much of bush jr (devil in disguise).

Walt, Belton, TX   January 19th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

Makes a lot of sense, picking the President by drawing from a deck of cards. Guess that beats lying some more…..

shaunM   January 19th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I am from Vegas…and my precinct caucus was super fun and exciting….we had an intial count of 32 for Clinton and 31 for Obama , one annoying undecided, and about 8 Edwards supporters. So we had the opportunity to convince the 8 Edwards supporters to (needed 13 to be viable) to pick one side or the other. During that process the one undecided voter asked to be swayed one way or the other. The Obama people in desperation , ran over and started their spiel on why she should go to the Obama side. My friend went over and softly explained that we needed a leader with experience. One Obama supporter yelled out "Come on….I have things I need to do today!". The undecided voter promptly sat her self down with the Clinton supporters. It just goes to show you that sometimes, you should just keep your mouth shut. Ultimately, our precinct (which by the way is in a normal school, we do have a normal community here) picked Hillary Clinton. It was close, but 4 delegates to Obama and 5 To Hillary. I was chosen as one of the delegates for my precinct. I have never caucused before and I absolutely loved the process. Made me feel truly American. Proud. After it was announced that Hillary won our precinct, an Obama supporter exclaimed: "It doesn't matter, we're all on the same side.".

Christian, Tampa FL   January 19th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Queen of Hearts… Aww. :)

Veronica   January 19th, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I am a Hillary supporter, and I'm not at all angry. ;)

There is a delegate scorecard on CNN's website, and a tutorial about how the delegate selection and nominee selection process works. Many delegates are already listed there, even though their primaries haven't happened yet. Clinton is ahead by quite a large margin. And South Carolina has only 2 delegates.

Queen of Hearts. I love it.

Maureen   January 19th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Why is it that when Bush wins more delegates to the Electoral College than Gore, he wins the presidency, but when Obama wins more delegates than Hillary, he loses Nevada? This just does not make sense. Obama got 13 delegates in Nevada, Hillary got 12. That means he WON more delegates than she did. Therefore, he comes out on top…yet the media only reports a Hillary win. There is something seriously wrong here.

eric   January 19th, 2008 9:25 pm ET

The way former president CLINTON interferes in the presidential race makes me wonder : who is really running this race ? we don t want a bicephale president . I d rather vote republican than having .i did not like G BUSCH at all .B CLINTON makes him look simpatic now

Lynn   January 19th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

I agree with one of the writers above. I am a woman and a democrate. I will never support Hillary Clinton. Are the Clinton the best we can do as a party.?They have totally embarassed this party before and they will do the same again. They are both crooks! If Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for the republican and hopefully that will be John McCain. If it is, he will get a tremendous amount of democrate, independent and latino and black vote.

just me   January 19th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Come on people. Nevada helped put Bush in office both times. Please don't look to them for guidance! Vote for someone who can actually get something done. Don't vote for someone who is going to continue the 50/50 split in congress.

Jonathan Floriani   January 19th, 2008 9:16 pm ET

Same thing happened at Precint 3037 in Northern Nevada. It was a 41-41 tie and hillary took the win with a King vs. Obama's 2..

Playing poker with politics….

Amy in Cincinnati   January 19th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Obama 13 delegates, Hillary 12….The game is on, and oh baby, Obama will bring it home. I can't wait for South Carolina and Super Tuesday. Clintonistas, take a breath, because you're gonna need it. Do not underestimate the power of grassroots politics. Gotta go…I need to make another donation to Obama's campaign.

Karen   January 19th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

Obama may not have won more delegates at this time. One calc is 12-13, the other 13-12. The State Democratic Party response….. see you at the convention!

Julie, Binghamton, NY   January 19th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

How can Obama say the only thing that matters is that he won more delegates? I mean, come on, the rules suppressed the majority vote, that doesn't matter? The only thing that matters is that he wins??? Does he care about fair elections?

Jorge   January 19th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

It is RIDICULOUS that Obama should take more delegates than Hillary!
The system can hardly be more flawed…

Eric   January 19th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

That's sad that a card pull decided…this could have meant a lot on who won the state.

Tom Davie pull your skirt down   January 19th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Tom Davie glad SC does not matter in your eyes, but it does. I don't think african americans will fall for her BS. She will not change anyone's mind. See ya next week when she loses.

Don   January 19th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Delegates are a very strange beast. Nevada delegates will not truly be decided till April by the state party. It has been reported both ways tonight. The bigger picture looks as if Hillary will walk away with more delegates. Some delegate counts are pledged delegates. The fact tonight is that Hillary Clinton won overwhelmingly the popular vote in Nevada. She worked hard for that vote and should be congratulated. It goes to show you that the media, who assumed the union would give the vote to Obama, was once again wrong. I believe they will be wrong in SC also, as Hillary still has a strong base of support among African Americans. If you are proud of your canidate, it should not matter if its private or public. I would proudly stand up and tell everyone why I would vote for Hillary, and then back it up with fact.

Eric   January 19th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Statement by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Jill Derby

Regarding the Nevada Caucus

(Las Vegas, Nev.) "Today, two out of three Nevadans who caucused chose a Democrat instead of a Republican for president. That is an overwhelming majority vote for a new direction. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the county convention. No national convention delegates were awarded. The calculations of national convention delegates being circulated are based upon an assumption that delegate preferences will remain the same between now and April 2008. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."

sairefgm   January 19th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

To everyone

This has become too much for me. Please look at Hillary in the media and on TV, she does not look well. She appears to be drugged and out of it.

I cant understand for the life of me why bill is so desperate to win. he has had his chance. something is not right here people. something is wrong.

i watched campaign 08 tonight and i looked at the republican committee play movie clips of hillary and obama and it does not look good.

HIllary and I am sorry to say this will not work for her. She cannot stand against the republicans, she is not strong enough. she will crack.

ibeam   January 19th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

If Hilliary is the Dem nom….than I'm voting for McCain =George Bush Jr.)..It looks like he will be the Rep nom…Now he has exp and great morals… I pray that Obama wins. I can't vote for the Clintons..I love my country too much..

Hillary's Hates CATS   January 19th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Hillary's supporters are an angry bunch.

Hillary is a woman scorn, but America owes her nothing.

Why are all of Hillary's supporters so angry.

Tom Davie   January 19th, 2008 8:38 pm ET

Hillary is leading in the Delagate votes by a HUGE margin to even encompass Edwards votes.

She has 220 to obamas 122 or something.

Its acutally embarassing that the candidate with 6% less vote wins MORE delegates. Its not democratic. Bill Clinton was obviously right.

In 2012, I would prefer it be a private vote so there is no peer pressure , and just award the delegates on a popular vote.

Lina   January 19th, 2008 8:31 pm ET

If Hillary supposedly has no chance in hell winning against the GOP. What makes you so certain that Obama would be a shoe-in for presidency? How are we supposed to trust a man that NOBODY knew before 2007? And is lucked out for having a very limited public record having missed 88% of the senate votes.

Ella   January 19th, 2008 8:27 pm ET

If Hilary wins the nomination I will vote republican
I am a woman but I will never vote for Hilary.
I dont know who is running for president..Bill or Hilary.
Where would she be without Bill

Another term with the Clintons, then Jena Bush becomes president, then Chelsea becomes president pease

Joe   January 19th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

Roll dice, draw cards,whatever you want…were all going to HELL if
Hillary wins….so I'll just have another ice cold BEER….aaahhhhh!!!

David Snider   January 19th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

Obama leads in delegates by 2…lol

Obama 08   January 19th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

…and this is a democracy??

Michael   January 19th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

So Latinos can't support a black man huh!! Well we as black americans need to send a message to these latinos and show them that we will support our own candidate. Latinos needs whites to help soften their stance on immigration. Well this will backfire. We will not let latinos treat our candidate this way. If they want to support a candidate because of the color then we will do the same for Barack. GO BARACK!!!

Nik T   January 19th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

While Obama might have more delegates, Hillary has more delegates overall.. by about 100!! IF you want to get technical, HIllary STILL comes out winning. It's about time people realize that while OBama speaks nice and preaches, he has no substance and he hasn't said anything about how he plans to implement the changes he proposes. His lack of experience makes him unelectable. I'll tell you what, OBama supporters: let's pick Obama for VP and let him get on-the-job training with Clinton, and I will vote for him in 8 years (after Hillary's 2 terms).

Walter   January 19th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Well, I have o say that was a odd way to select a winner and to declare a win. But a win is just that, a win! I want to say I recently had a chance to meet with Hillary at a roundtable talk and WOW, I walked away speechless. I also had the same chance with an Obama rally and left out empty, yeah excited but EMPTY. Empty promise's, empty hope's and mainly EMPTY Dream's of getting America back where it need's to be. I figured out even more why I wanted her to have my vote. I have been a great Fan of her's since her day's as the first lady and had always said, I hope she ran for President. But the truth is although I had said that I never said she would get my vote. I have weighed both side's, looked at both's experience (the truth is neither of them have experience as THE PRESIDENT), what they are promising and what each one of them have done so far, it clear who should win. She shows a great deal of support for Middle Class American's. People keep saying about race, but take the color of your skin away and look at it. Vote for someone that wants what we need. I want to Challenge each and every one of you to go out, go to a rally for each of your favorite hopeful's and then make your decision.

brad   January 19th, 2008 8:15 pm ET

Obama wins with more delagates than clinton!!!! YAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Mario   January 19th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

Uh huh, playing the trace card again CNN! "10 of spades" you idiots just can't get over it can you!

CNN, Creepy News Network

Ann   January 19th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

This is funny.. if the cards would give Obama one more delegate, you'd all make fun
"hey Bill, even the dices love Obama". Well, the cards didn't like Obama!

Queen of hearts, this was a good one!

Surge   January 19th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

I can't wait to see the Obama supporters claim a Clinton conspiracy to slip a fake card into the deck.

Looks like all Obama's cynical race-baiting, gender & Latino exploitation isn't working anymore. And now Rev. Buttes in NYC has just endorsed Clinton.

Teehee

Art in Hammond   January 19th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

tradition or not, don't you all think its a bit idiotic to decide who gets the extra delegate by drawing cards?
…… what happened to the good old duels? ;)

Richie   January 19th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

My mind tells me this is not clean election and it's time for me to roll and mind my business…

Timothy   January 19th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

I am not American but this is why America will always be the way it is. Too bad Americans will die trying to fight for what is right and will never get it!

Katherine   January 19th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

Why is it that it looks like Obama got more delegates than CLinton, and if so, why doesn't the media report that he is AHEAD in delegates. . . let that create the momentum, not the meaningless percentages.

Gavin Indiana HRC 08   January 19th, 2008 7:57 pm ET

THANK GOODNESS SENATOR CLINTON WON!

I'm glad Latinos rejected the outrageous and vindictive Obama radio Ad against Clinton…

VIVA CLINTON!

Mike   January 19th, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Let rigged election be just like those cards!

jaco   January 19th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

where is Karl Rove?

Tom Davie   January 19th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Cmon Obama supporters

SPIN this one.

this is actually a 'destiny' card.

Just like a 'destiny' card in NH where everyone and their dog predicted her to lose.

Evne in the EXIT polls , clinton lost.

Funny how answering question in a SOCIAL setting changes the answers.

side note:

What happened to poor john edwards? 4% of the vote????

Jed in Texas   January 19th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Lets just call it a CRAP SHOOT. LOL And the Crap won .

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