January 19th, 2008
07:47 PM ET
7 years ago

Clinton wins precinct tie with queen of hearts

(CNN) – You know you're in Vegas when victory at a caucus precinct comes in the form of a card draw.

On Saturday, Sen. Hillary Clinton won the caucus at Mojave High School in North Las Vegas when one of her supporters pulled out the queen of hearts - besting the 10 of spades for Obama.

Tom Komenda, a Clinton supporter, told CNN there was an even number of supporters for the two candidates - 48 each. But the caucus had five delegates, so they couldn't be split evenly.

How to break the tie? A good old fashioned card draw.

Komenda - who sent CNN the story via I-Report - said a sealed deck was unwrapped. But as the shuffling started, he was concerned that the shuffler might have been shuffling in a way that exposed the faces of the cards to some of the nervous onlookers.

"I said, 'Wait wait wait - if we have to do this idiotic thing with cards, we're going to shuffle them the way they're supposed to be shuffled,'" he told CNN, laughing. "Then they said, 'If you want to shuffle, come down here and shuffle. So I went down and shuffled!"

Komenda says an Obama supporter drew first, and up came the ten of spades. Next, a Clinton supporter drew, and a queen of hearts decided the tie-breaker in favor of Clinton. So the final delegate count was two delegates for Obama, and three for Clinton.

It all ended, he said, in "cheers from one side of the room, groans and boos from the other."

Those cheering ended up rewarding Komenda - he was chosen to be one of the delegates for Clinton.

–CNN's Josh Levs


Filed under: Nevada
soundoff (187 Responses)
  1. Tom Davie

    By the way, those who say Hillary leads in delegates are wrong. She has more superdelegates, but those aren't pledged and can change their minds.

    I have this feeling we won't know who the nominee is for months

    Super delegates are people who pledge their support to whatever candidate they want. Usually high ranking officials within the party.

    They dont have to pick a candidate . They can just come and hang around until they DO endorse someone.

    But if they are counted in Hillarys count, they HAVE been pledged. Same with Obama.

    There are probably a hundred or more still out there.

    January 20, 2008 05:51 am at 5:51 am |
  2. charlotte

    I watched the caucus process in Nevada. Thank God , the rest of the nation is a private process. I can see how people could be intimidated. The voting process should be improved. The caucus process is not an improvement. It is an amusement. Lets just stick to the little booth with a curtain and absoluletly no outside pressure. There are a lot of people who are easily pressured to do things they might not have done without peer pressure. Thus the term "peer pressure."
    The little booth is the best, then we can scream it was rigged, demand a recount and cloud the process, and in the end, nothing changes. One thing we have learned in the process is no more punch cards, with hanging chads. Can an election be fixed? Yes! When a vote is confusing, Ex: Butterfly ballot, when a no vote is really a yes vote, things like that. The age of computers, where Identity theft is a real threat,, if someone wants to steal your vote they sure can. It is scary, but we cannot let the threats of hackers, terrorist etc. take away our rights to freedom. The right to vote is the fundamental right of our country. WE must exercise that right. If you disagree with me or not. PLEASE VOTE People who make stupid comments, like "I'll move if so and so wins," who will cut off their noses to spite their faces, those kinds of comments make me very sad

    January 20, 2008 05:55 am at 5:55 am |
  3. rusty

    Pure and simple, if Hillary gets the nomination, this democrat will vote republican, or independant. Another Clinton administration is not what this country needs. I hope the democrats think about this, because, if Hillary is the best they can come up with, the republicans will stay in the White House, no matter who their nominee is.

    January 20, 2008 05:57 am at 5:57 am |
  4. Please make a note on these few words of mine....

    A country of many religion, race, tribes, ideas, vision escetera, have suddenly forgotten that they are supposed to lead by example and not be divisive on issues that have divided others for over a 100 years. C'mon Americans vote with your hearts not with hatred because we all came to this world the same way and we will all leave this world the same way.

    Please Note: White house should be given a new name (suggestion) not meant for ONLY one race beacuse we are all born equal. Take note

    January 20, 2008 06:25 am at 6:25 am |
  5. Joe, SoCal

    Why are Clinton supporters so angry? She won NH, she won NV, and she maintains a solid lead nationally, but all Clinton backers do is complain.

    January 20, 2008 07:23 am at 7:23 am |
  6. shanna

    Hillary won because people are starting to see the real obama,and its not nice.And cnn please get bill bennett off the panel.His hatred for Clinton comes across loud and clear,his personal opinion should not! be so played on us.Im tired of the tip-toeing around Obama, this is about the next president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,!

    January 20, 2008 07:32 am at 7:32 am |
  7. Tyler

    Just to clear up the delegate thing, the exact number of delegates for Obama and Clinton could change a bit at the national convention.

    January 20, 2008 08:03 am at 8:03 am |
  8. Tyler

    And I havent heard Obama give Hillary a congrats...sounds kind of like a sore-loser type of thing. Its not good for Obama if he goes into SC all sour about losing in NV and overhyping the delegate estimate.

    January 20, 2008 08:05 am at 8:05 am |
  9. Tyler

    Even though Obama is two pledged delegates ahead, or if he winds SC and puts him a bit more ahead, then that few delegate margin wont matter once Hillary wins NY with its 232 delegates and erases that Obama lead margin there. Its going to be a tough fight on February 5th for the states.

    January 20, 2008 08:07 am at 8:07 am |
  10. Ray

    Poor Poor Obama Cult members. He lost and your trying to spin it that he got more delegates? BUT, they have not been rewarded AND press releases have been sent out saying the SAME thing.

    WAKE UP!!

    HILLARY 08!!

    January 20, 2008 08:16 am at 8:16 am |
  11. shawn

    Who is running for President? Bill or Hillary? This man is supposed to be the former President of the Untied States. Well, he did wave his finger at me 10 years ago and lied to the nation. I hope we don't get 8 more years of this junk. If you think that Mrs. Clinton and Bill can bring this nation back together after Bush then you have inhaled this stuff that Bill has been smoking.

    January 20, 2008 08:20 am at 8:20 am |
  12. EE

    Nina
    If Hillary is the nominee for the Democrats in the presidential election she is
    responsible for putting another Republican in the White House. Hillary is one of
    the most divisive politicians in Washington and it will be four MORE years
    of constant bickering. Not only along party lines but within the Democratic
    Party.

    She constantly takes an opponents ideas and spins them to fit with her
    35 years of experience. Whatever that is. It's simply amazing to me how women
    are suckered in by the I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman bit. I
    remember when Bill ran for office and Hillary was not the little woman
    who stayed home and baked. For political expediency she's now one of us.
    And the spin. OH MY GOD ! Most politicians will spin any situations to fit their
    but it has now reached a new low with Bill and Hillary. I do wish Bill would
    act with a lot more dignity befitting a former president.

    I am a 63 year old black female undecided voter from Illinois. The one thing that I have decided is I WILL NOT vote for Hillary.

    January 20, 2008 08:21 am at 8:21 am |
  13. Chris, Middletown, CT

    (other than voting for Clinton) add that to the "1000 dumb things Democrats do"

    January 20, 2008 08:24 am at 8:24 am |
  14. Tom get for real.

    tom davie, you sound like someone who supports Hillary.

    January 20, 2008 08:26 am at 8:26 am |
  15. EE

    Nina
    If Hillary is the nominee for the Democrats in the presidential election she is
    responsible for putting another Republican in the White House. Hillary is one of
    the most divisive politicians in Washington and it will be four MORE years
    of constant bickering. Not only along party lines but within the Democratic
    Party.

    She constantly takes an opponents ideas and spins them to fit with her
    35 years of experience. Whatever that is. It's simply amazing to me how women
    are suckered in by the I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman bit. I
    remember when Bill ran for office and Hillary was not the little woman
    who stayed home and baked. For political expediency she's now one of us.
    And the spin. OH MY GOD ! Most politicians will spin any situations to fit their platforms
    but it has now reached a new low with Bill and Hillary. I do wish Bill would
    act with a lot more dignity befitting a former president.

    I am a 63 year old black female undecided voter from Illinois. The one thing that I have decided is I WILL NOT vote for Hillary.

    January 20, 2008 08:30 am at 8:30 am |
  16. Tyler

    Well he is correct "Tom get for real" (funny name). But they arent pledged though to any candidate. CNN gets the superdelegate total from a survey that they do of the superdelegates. There are a couple hundred that have not yet decided who to support. Often times however, superdelegates vote the same direction the wind is blowing however. If you get what I mean.

    January 20, 2008 08:37 am at 8:37 am |
  17. T. Watkins

    Over the last four years I always said if Hillary ran I would vote for her in a heartbeat, because I loved Bill. Well over the last year I have listened to all of the Democrats speak on what they can do for this great country. Well I've heard all of them say that we need a "Change" and Hillary said I have the "Experience" to make that change but what has "She" done over the last eight years in the senate to make a difference? Is she really asking us to vote for her because of what Bill, her husband, did to make a difference? I say lets really think about what we as a people really need leading us into our and our children future. Do we need a president when things get ruff "She'll cry" for it? There's no crying in politics! We need someone who can bring the UNITED STATES of America together first! Someone who has the capability to ask those hard questions, while being respectful. Someone that will hear and understand what we as a people NEED at thi s critical time in our country. That person I feel is Senator Obama. To Answer my favorite president of the United States, YES I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRY-TALES!!!

    January 20, 2008 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  18. Theo

    Did you see the picture of Bill in the papers? The proud papa with his smug expression.... as usual. Don't let this moron win the nomination, even though it won't matter when McCain gets elected!!

    January 20, 2008 09:46 am at 9:46 am |
  19. tina ny, ny

    Obama is like a little baby who can't hear voice of the voters. He needs to grow up.

    January 20, 2008 09:56 am at 9:56 am |
  20. tina ny, ny

    Nita- just for record. I am university graduated with 6 figure yearly earning supports Clinton. Yes I am under 40 years of age.
    ____________________________________________________________
    Nita January 20, 2008 2:44 am ET

    "FOR ALL YOU IGNORANT AND LESS EDUCATED CLINTON SUPPORTERS"

    Well? I guess I only have this to say – its all us ignorant and less educated people that will help Clinton get the nomination. Not to mention us old farts – you know? the baby boomers. Clinton is by far the best. Listen to her speak to listen to the song. The song isnt going to help you keep your job or home.

    January 20, 2008 10:05 am at 10:05 am |
  21. Hillary 08

    The Nevada caucus didn't go as smoothly as everyone thinks....we were in a precinct getting ready to be counted when all of a sudden a big bunch of people came into the hall and quickly were herded into the Obama section...they didn't register....the counting began....Obama won.....the head of the caucus called headquarters and told them that a number of people came in without registering and were counted....the Headquarters told her NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT!!!!...but we did notice that the woman seemingly in charge of the Obama section was none stop on the phone telling people to come.....but those people didn't register with the desk and quickly left as soon as the counting was over......

    January 20, 2008 10:09 am at 10:09 am |
  22. eric

    Bill plays really dirty , and it helps Hillary . He does not care about the party no more .she said it : it is personal . To get it they will play diiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrty all
    away to day one

    January 20, 2008 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  23. OrobMarl

    Dear Hillaries,

    especially 40+ women and Latinos. Thank you for choosing the „turn out the republican vote in record numbers“ candidate. The morning after the presidential election take a close déjà vu look at the map and ask yourself: how could I be so naïve to believe, that after Gore and Kerry another one of these party favourites could break into the phalanx of red states (oh wait, yeah, just because she is a woman), when even at peace times a VP with best economical data on his application form couldn’t win his home state of TN.

    And after that reality check, take a moment and think about history and the last two “inexperienced” democratic candidates who could manage to be elected with a lot of those red states on their electoral scorecard. Got the message?

    This primary season is not about women against men, Afro Americans against WASP, woman against Afro Americans or Latinos against Afro Americans – it is about choosing a candidate who could take the country back from the big business cronies. Therefore the democrats need a candidate who can reach independents and republican middle class and not a candidate who, just by mentioning the name, will drive millions of republican voters to the voting cabins.

    On the other hand maybe Dems are enjoy to look on red maps with blue window-dressing because deep inside they are kind of masochistic.

    January 20, 2008 10:19 am at 10:19 am |
  24. man

    CNN is too bias!!
    get a grip!
    this is unethical

    January 20, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  25. Martha, Georgia

    This is how Hillary says thank you to the Nevadan whom she conned and suckered in to voting for her:

    "Now we're back here in the Midwest, where I'm from. I'm so happy to see all of you," Clinton, a Chicago native, said to cheers at a campaign rally late Saturday in this St. Louis suburb.

    Nevadans, what kind of message does that send to you. Did she not feel comfortable in your town, was she not welcomed. Her gave the Nevadan that giggle, giggle, fake smile and I am out of here

    January 20, 2008 10:40 am at 10:40 am |
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