Comments on: More unprecedented turnout for Democrats http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Gordon http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-293985 Gordon Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:24:31 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-293985 The count shown on TV was the number of delegates for the particular candidate not the actual number of votes. It's very complicated process in Nevada for the Democrats. The actual delegates for the national convention will be selected at the state convention in Reno in April. That's when Obama loses all his delegates, he has just phantom delegates till then. The count shown on TV was the number of delegates for the particular candidate not the actual number of votes. It's very complicated process in Nevada for the Democrats. The actual delegates for the national convention will be selected at the state convention in Reno in April. That's when Obama loses all his delegates, he has just phantom delegates till then.

]]> By: Billie C. Snohomish WA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292539 Billie C. Snohomish WA Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:40:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292539 Folks, it’s campaign time and everyone knew it wasn’t going to be pretty. All the candidates are speaking without a net - especially during the debates. Who wouldn’t say things they’d like to take back. I’m an Obama supporter. He brings an optimism we haven’t seen since JFK. He’s intelligent-he’ll learn quickly. I want to give him that chance. I believe what America badly needs today is a president of hope. Besides, our presidents aren’t dictators. They have advisors and a congress. But I will vote democratic no matter who wins the nomination and here’s why. Who really knows if keeping our troops in Iraq will or will not bring about the change we hope for in that country. No one. I do know that keeping troops there diverts millions of dollars from our ability to change and fix things here at home: unmanageable healthcare costs, embarrassing education results, aging bridges and infrastructure, gasoline crisis, damaging environmental impacts, immigration control, nearly insurmountable national debt, national security, etc. etc. etc. These things cannot wait for the Iraqi outcome. These things cannot wait at all. It is time to get over a win/lose mentality when it comes to Iraq and bring our troops home immediately and only a democratic president will do that. There is no shame in re-evaluating what the United States can and cannot do and reaching what is an obvious choice of economics. It is grossly irresponsible to choose the problems in Iraq over the problems here at home when we cannot afford to address both. Voting for a democratic president is voting to turn our country around for the better Folks, it’s campaign time and everyone knew it wasn’t going to be pretty. All the candidates are speaking without a net – especially during the debates. Who wouldn’t say things they’d like to take back. I’m an Obama supporter. He brings an optimism we haven’t seen since JFK. He’s intelligent-he’ll learn quickly. I want to give him that chance. I believe what America badly needs today is a president of hope. Besides, our presidents aren’t dictators. They have advisors and a congress. But I will vote democratic no matter who wins the nomination and here’s why.

Who really knows if keeping our troops in Iraq will or will not bring about the change we hope for in that country. No one. I do know that keeping troops there diverts millions of dollars from our ability to change and fix things here at home: unmanageable healthcare costs, embarrassing education results, aging bridges and infrastructure, gasoline crisis, damaging environmental impacts, immigration control, nearly insurmountable national debt, national security, etc. etc. etc. These things cannot wait for the Iraqi outcome. These things cannot wait at all. It is time to get over a win/lose mentality when it comes to Iraq and bring our troops home immediately and only a democratic president will do that. There is no shame in re-evaluating what the United States can and cannot do and reaching what is an obvious choice of economics. It is grossly irresponsible to choose the problems in Iraq over the problems here at home when we cannot afford to address both. Voting for a democratic president is voting to turn our country around for the better

]]> By: Matt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292494 Matt Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:22:29 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292494 People...The 10,000 number on CNN is the number of county delegates, not the the number of people who participated in the caucus. People...The 10,000 number on CNN is the number of county delegates, not the the number of people who participated in the caucus.

]]> By: bob anderson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292458 bob anderson Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:08:14 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292458 Why in the world would anyone consider Guliani a front runner he hasnt finished in the top four places in any of the primaries,are you people blind or just cant count? Why in the world would anyone consider Guliani a front runner he hasnt finished in the top four places in any of the primaries,are you people blind or just cant count?

]]> By: Dave Skinner http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292457 Dave Skinner Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:08:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292457 Why is nothing being said about how Florida Democrats are feeling about now? We were cheated in the 2000 election and now the National Democratic Party has taken away our chance to participate in the nomination process. I feel like this is being ignored by CNN. Why not ask the candidates about this tomorrow night in the debate? Why is nothing being said about how Florida Democrats are feeling about now? We were cheated in the 2000 election and now the National Democratic Party has taken away our chance to participate in the nomination process. I feel like this is being ignored by CNN. Why not ask the candidates about this tomorrow night in the debate?

]]> By: Ginny, Ca http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292182 Ginny, Ca Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:11:22 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292182 I have faith in African American voters. I believe they will vote with their minds and their hearts and I believe the majority will vote for Hillary. They know her track record and how long and hard she worked in the civil rights movement to bring positive change and equality for every American. They know that Martin Luther King was her hero and inspired her in her civil rights work. I think it's insulting that so many of you say that African Americans will vote for Obama because he's black. Please, give those voters credit for being able to think for themselves, to be able to think beyond race and bias and to select the candidate who best represents them, their dreams, and their hopes. I have faith in African American voters. I believe they will vote with their minds and their hearts and I believe the majority will vote for Hillary. They know her track record and how long and hard she worked in the civil rights movement to bring positive change and equality for every American. They know that Martin Luther King was her hero and inspired her in her civil rights work. I think it's insulting that so many of you say that African Americans will vote for Obama because he's black. Please, give those voters credit for being able to think for themselves, to be able to think beyond race and bias and to select the candidate who best represents them, their dreams, and their hopes.

]]> By: AnnAloha, PA Independent Thinker http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292007 AnnAloha, PA Independent Thinker Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:03:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-292007 What's really frightening is watching young AA's in college during interveiws, explaining what their elders and parents have told them on how President Clinton was instrumental in supporting the civil rights effort and they they tell reporters that they don't wanna listen, mainly because they (the young AA) weren't there back then and why should they listen. If Senator Obama wants to claim a campaign of Hope, then he needs to recognize this support that President Clinton, if not then he(Sen Obama) is truly a divider. No other president since President Lincoln has supported minorities than President Clinton…and that is FACT. Even I as an Independent Thinker know this as basic HISTORY. Misleading the youth of America may be the biggest and most difficult mistake to recover from. So many emotions and so little support. What's really frightening is watching young AA's in college during interveiws, explaining what their elders and parents have told them on how President Clinton was instrumental in supporting the civil rights effort and they they tell reporters that they don't wanna listen, mainly because they (the young AA) weren't there back then and why should they listen.
If Senator Obama wants to claim a campaign of Hope, then he needs to recognize this support that President Clinton, if not then he(Sen Obama) is truly a divider. No other president since President Lincoln has supported minorities than President Clinton…and that is FACT.
Even I as an Independent Thinker know this as basic HISTORY.
Misleading the youth of America may be the biggest and most difficult mistake to recover from. So many emotions and so little support.

]]> By: fdejasu http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291964 fdejasu Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:59:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291964 UNPRECEDENTED TURN OUT? I added up your (CNN) numbers and came out with 10,460 participants, "The Nevada Democratic Party reports that with 84 percent of the precincts reporting, they are seeing unprecedented turnout, with more than 107,000 caucus attendees." Which begs the question where are the 96,000? Please explain... UNPRECEDENTED TURN OUT?
I added up your (CNN) numbers and came out with 10,460 participants,
"The Nevada Democratic Party reports that with 84 percent of the precincts reporting, they are seeing unprecedented turnout, with more than 107,000 caucus attendees."
Which begs the question where are the 96,000?
Please explain...

]]> By: charlotte http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291923 charlotte Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:01:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291923 I watched the caucus process in Nevada. Thank God , the rest of the nation is a private process. I can see how people could be intimidated. The voting process should be improved. The caucus process is not an improvement. It is an amusement. Lets just stick to the little booth with a curtain and absoluletly no outside pressure. There are a lot of people who are easily pressured to do things they might not have done without peer pressure. Thus the term "peer pressure." The little booth is the best, then we can scream it was rigged, demand a recount and cloud the process, and in the end, nothing changes. One thing we have learned in the process is no more punch cards, with hanging chads. Can an election be fixed? Yes! When a vote is confusing, Ex: Butterfly ballot, when a no vote is really a yes vote, things like that. The age of computers, where Identity theft is a real threat,, if someone wants to steal your vote they sure can. It is scary, but we cannot let the threats of hackers, terrorist etc. take away our rights to freedom. The right to vote is the fundamental right of our country. WE must exercise that right. If you disagree with me or not. PLEASE VOTE People who make stupid comments, like "I'll move if so and so wins," who will cut off their noses to spite their faces, those kinds of comments make me very sad I watched the caucus process in Nevada. Thank God , the rest of the nation is a private process. I can see how people could be intimidated. The voting process should be improved. The caucus process is not an improvement. It is an amusement. Lets just stick to the little booth with a curtain and absoluletly no outside pressure. There are a lot of people who are easily pressured to do things they might not have done without peer pressure. Thus the term "peer pressure."
The little booth is the best, then we can scream it was rigged, demand a recount and cloud the process, and in the end, nothing changes. One thing we have learned in the process is no more punch cards, with hanging chads. Can an election be fixed? Yes! When a vote is confusing, Ex: Butterfly ballot, when a no vote is really a yes vote, things like that. The age of computers, where Identity theft is a real threat,, if someone wants to steal your vote they sure can. It is scary, but we cannot let the threats of hackers, terrorist etc. take away our rights to freedom. The right to vote is the fundamental right of our country. WE must exercise that right. If you disagree with me or not. PLEASE VOTE People who make stupid comments, like "I'll move if so and so wins," who will cut off their noses to spite their faces, those kinds of comments make me very sad

]]> By: Frank Weinberg http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291267 Frank Weinberg Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:33:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291267 No. I think the turn-out of more than 110,000 CAUCUS GOERS was more than the any person with a knowledge of American politics ever have forecast. Any suggestion that this is just the same-old, same old (only a little more so) misunderestimates the nature of the situation. If you want to draw meaning from the results, you must remember the effect of Yucca Mountain. Edward's stance on Yucca Mountain was a deal breaker for him and, to some extent,a deal clincher for Clinton. Without it, the margin is even closer and Obama may win. Please stop squabbling, both these are fine candidates and, as Red Green says "We're allin this together". No. I think the turn-out of more than 110,000 CAUCUS GOERS was more than the any person with a knowledge of American politics ever have forecast. Any suggestion that this is just the same-old, same old (only a little more so) misunderestimates the nature of the situation. If you want to draw meaning from the results, you must remember the effect of Yucca Mountain. Edward's stance on Yucca Mountain was a deal breaker for him and, to some extent,a deal clincher for Clinton. Without it, the margin is even closer and Obama may win. Please stop squabbling, both these are fine candidates and, as Red Green says "We're allin this together".

]]> By: Kim http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291232 Kim Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:21:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-291232 Sarifa, I sincerely hope that Obama wins the Democratic primary. I also sincerely hope that his supporters might take the time to read a short book entitled "The Road To Serfdom". George Orwell (heard of him?) had this to say about the book-- "It cannot be said too often--at any rate, it is not being said nearly often enough--that collectivism is not inherently democratic, but, on the contrary, gives to a tyrannical minority such powers as the Spanish Inquisitors never dreamt of" George Orwell was talking about a minority that we in this country refer to as "special interests". In short, "Collectivism is Slavery", but the devil is in the details and I hope Obama and his supporters will take the time to read this remarkable treatise by a Nobel prize winning author. Sarifa, I sincerely hope that Obama wins the Democratic primary. I also sincerely hope that his supporters might take the time to read a short book entitled "The Road To Serfdom". George Orwell (heard of him?) had this to say about the book–

"It cannot be said too often–at any rate, it is not being said nearly often enough–that collectivism is not inherently democratic, but, on the contrary, gives to a tyrannical minority such powers as the Spanish Inquisitors never dreamt of"

George Orwell was talking about a minority that we in this country refer to as "special interests". In short, "Collectivism is Slavery", but the devil is in the details and I hope Obama and his supporters will take the time to read this remarkable treatise by a Nobel prize winning author.

]]> By: Derrick http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290999 Derrick Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:21:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290999 I am confused.. Can somebody explain why Clinton is walking away with 1 fewer pledged delegates than Obama? I am not talking about the super-delegates either. This makes no sense to me. I am confused.. Can somebody explain why Clinton is walking away with 1 fewer pledged delegates than Obama? I am not talking about the super-delegates either. This makes no sense to me.

]]> By: Sarifa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290820 Sarifa Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:36:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290820 As a black, female, democrat who has voted in every election possible since I came of voting age, I am disheartened to read that someone who claims to be a democrat would actually cast their vote for a Republican, especially McCain, out of spite. Although I am no Clinton lover, we must have a democrat in the White House. We cannot have another four years of Republican Rule. McCain is a war-monger and the rest of the Republicans are worse. Please reconsider your idea of voting Republican just because you are angry at the Clintons. You must think of the Country. Bottom Line: I don't think you will have to worry--Obama will WIN!! He must WIN. As a black, female, democrat who has voted in every election possible since I came of voting age, I am disheartened to read that someone who claims to be a democrat would actually cast their vote for a Republican, especially McCain, out of spite. Although I am no Clinton lover, we must have a democrat in the White House. We cannot have another four years of Republican Rule. McCain is a war-monger and the rest of the Republicans are worse. Please reconsider your idea of voting Republican just because you are angry at the Clintons. You must think of the Country. Bottom Line: I don't think you will have to worry–Obama will WIN!! He must WIN.

]]> By: ARR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290815 ARR Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:35:34 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290815 What the Clinton posters here don't seem to understand is that you will NEED people like David and like me in the general election. I am not African American, but I totally understand why many both inside and outside the African American community are upset. For me, it is the sense that the Clintons will throw absolutely anyone under the bus, including longtime allies, if it suits their political purposes. Some Clinton supporters have taken this as a virtue, reasoning that Hillary is "tough" enough to beat the Republicans at their own Rovian game. The problem with this tactic is that you are becoming the monster you think you are trying to defeat. Like the Clinton campaign, many of you who are posting here assume that non-Republicans will have no place to go and will have to vote for Clinton (if she does get the nomination, which is by no means in the bag). That is incorrect and your arrogance is amazing. We can vote for McCain, we can vote for Bloomberg, we can vote for a lot of different candidates, or we can just stay home. It's not about being sour grapes or "sore losers" (a presumptuous labe since the race isn't over yet). It's about respect. If someone like David says they are being treated unfairly, you shouldn't respond by saying, "Oh, get over it." Try to understand WHY. Listen and you might learn something. Step back and notice what is happening. There is a reason 70 percent of African Americans have voted against Hillary in the last two primary/caucus elections. Don't blame the Obama campaign and don't blame African Americans. The Clinton campaign is willing to sacrifice support from African Americans because they WANT to make the media and the public think of Obama as an African American candidate. They believe it wil limit him and take away from his strong point of being able to transcend boundaries. It is a political strategy. It might work, but it doesn't make it right. And I would rather vote for a John McCain because even though I disagree with him on several issues, the man has a sense of decency and treats people with respect. So there you go. If you think people getting upset about the way they are being treated is "Hillary bashing," then more power to you. But don't expect to get support from independents and even many longtime allies with this arrogant attitude. What the Clinton posters here don't seem to understand is that you will NEED people like David and like me in the general election. I am not African American, but I totally understand why many both inside and outside the African American community are upset. For me, it is the sense that the Clintons will throw absolutely anyone under the bus, including longtime allies, if it suits their political purposes.

Some Clinton supporters have taken this as a virtue, reasoning that Hillary is "tough" enough to beat the Republicans at their own Rovian game. The problem with this tactic is that you are becoming the monster you think you are trying to defeat.

Like the Clinton campaign, many of you who are posting here assume that non-Republicans will have no place to go and will have to vote for Clinton (if she does get the nomination, which is by no means in the bag). That is incorrect and your arrogance is amazing.

We can vote for McCain, we can vote for Bloomberg, we can vote for a lot of different candidates, or we can just stay home. It's not about being sour grapes or "sore losers" (a presumptuous labe since the race isn't over yet). It's about respect.

If someone like David says they are being treated unfairly, you shouldn't respond by saying, "Oh, get over it." Try to understand WHY. Listen and you might learn something. Step back and notice what is happening. There is a reason 70 percent of African Americans have voted against Hillary in the last two primary/caucus elections. Don't blame the Obama campaign and don't blame African Americans.

The Clinton campaign is willing to sacrifice support from African Americans because they WANT to make the media and the public think of Obama as an African American candidate. They believe it wil limit him and take away from his strong point of being able to transcend boundaries. It is a political strategy. It might work, but it doesn't make it right. And I would rather vote for a John McCain because even though I disagree with him on several issues, the man has a sense of decency and treats people with respect.

So there you go. If you think people getting upset about the way they are being treated is "Hillary bashing," then more power to you. But don't expect to get support from independents and even many longtime allies with this arrogant attitude.

]]> By: Jessica, Waco, Texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290801 Jessica, Waco, Texas Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:33:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290801 Ryan, you seem to be not voting on the issues. To disclaim a democratic vote if Obama is not democratic nominee is immature and irresponsible unless of course your vote for Obama is superficial at best. The Republican candidates sharply contradict democratic views on almost all of the key issues and problems we are facing. Do your homework. You have to live here too. Ryan, you seem to be not voting on the issues. To disclaim a democratic vote if Obama is not democratic nominee is immature and irresponsible unless of course your vote for Obama is superficial at best. The Republican candidates sharply contradict democratic views on almost all of the key issues and problems we are facing. Do your homework. You have to live here too.

]]> By: fb http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290731 fb Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:18:47 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290731 Its time for CHANGE. I applaud all the work the Clintons' have done for our country, and the democratic party (clap, clap, clap). It is time for a new direction in American politics, and OUR country. The Clintons have been part of "the machine" in politics for quite some time. Hillary admits to 35 years. Different results for our country with the same politicians???? Mrs. Clinton is too polarizing a figure, and I too will vote for Mr. McCain if she is the Democratic party nominee. Its time we start recognizing the fact we are all Americans, and stop dividing this country along racial, political, and class lines. Its time for One America, and Senator Obama embodies the principles of this country's founding fathers. He thoroughly understands what they understood the word republic to mean. They had no idea these United States would become divided along party lines. They found common ground, and that is what we should strive for irrespective of our race, gender, ethnicity, religion, or political affiliation. Think about---thats what it means to truely be American in these United States. Its time for CHANGE. I applaud all the work the Clintons' have done for our country, and the democratic party (clap, clap, clap). It is time for a new direction in American politics, and OUR country. The Clintons have been part of "the machine" in politics for quite some time. Hillary admits to 35 years. Different results for our country with the same politicians???? Mrs. Clinton is too polarizing a figure, and I too will vote for Mr. McCain if she is the Democratic party nominee. Its time we start recognizing the fact we are all Americans, and stop dividing this country along racial, political, and class lines. Its time for One America, and Senator Obama embodies the principles of this country's founding fathers. He thoroughly understands what they understood the word republic to mean. They had no idea these United States would become divided along party lines. They found common ground, and that is what we should strive for irrespective of our race, gender, ethnicity, religion, or political affiliation. Think about-thats what it means to truely be American in these United States.

]]> By: Ryan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290667 Ryan Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:06:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290667 The Clinton supporters can say or think whatever they want. I am a white college student, and I will vote for Barack Obama. If he does not win, I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Unless Huckabee somehow manages to win the Republican primaries) The Clinton people seem to think that the Democrats are all energized, and all they have to do is knock off Obama to get to the White House. Wrong. Obama is the one energizing the Democratic base, if you use your typical Washington tactics to smear him and steal the nomination from him so Bill and Hill can have four more years, then you will get crushed in the general election. The Clinton supporters can say or think whatever they want. I am a white college student, and I will vote for Barack Obama. If he does not win, I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Unless Huckabee somehow manages to win the Republican primaries)

The Clinton people seem to think that the Democrats are all energized, and all they have to do is knock off Obama to get to the White House. Wrong. Obama is the one energizing the Democratic base, if you use your typical Washington tactics to smear him and steal the nomination from him so Bill and Hill can have four more years, then you will get crushed in the general election.

]]> By: Skott J. Tampa, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290602 Skott J. Tampa, FL Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:53:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290602 It;'s nice to see people take on the first poster, David. He has been posting that same message all over the internet, trying to divide people and get the African American population to vote Republican. I suspect he is just some Republican operative who thinks his rant about Hillary and Bill being racist will somehow change the outcome of November's election. Calling Bill and Hillary racist is simply absurd. Go peddle your baggage somewhere else. This homey ain't buyin' it. Was an Edwards supporter, but all the Hillary bashing has me leaning in her direction now. It;'s nice to see people take on the first poster, David. He has been posting that same message all over the internet, trying to divide people and get the African American population to vote Republican. I suspect he is just some Republican operative who thinks his rant about Hillary and Bill being racist will somehow change the outcome of November's election. Calling Bill and Hillary racist is simply absurd. Go peddle your baggage somewhere else. This homey ain't buyin' it.

Was an Edwards supporter, but all the Hillary bashing has me leaning in her direction now.

]]> By: michael Dahir http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290560 michael Dahir Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:45:14 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290560 USA will be ready for a black president the year of 2360 which is 400 years after 1960's that will be the time for sure before that it will more Clinton's or some one else. USA will be ready for a black president the year of 2360 which is 400 years after 1960's that will be the time for sure before that it will more Clinton's or some one else.

]]> By: Marti, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290457 Marti, FL Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:27:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290457 Congratulations Hillary. I am an Obama supporter but still think you are doing a commendable job. Regarding the topic of race, the media is the one inciting the issue. Please do not fall for the sensationalism, but rather let's celebrate MLK's dream as a party and nation who is witnessing the viability of Obama's candidacy. All of our Democratic candidates and record turnout is something to be very proud about in this primary season. Congratulations Hillary. I am an Obama supporter but still think you are doing a commendable job.

Regarding the topic of race, the media is the one inciting the issue. Please do not fall for the sensationalism, but rather let's celebrate MLK's dream as a party and nation who is witnessing the viability of Obama's candidacy. All of our Democratic candidates and record turnout is something to be very proud about in this primary season.

]]> By: sam yathrob http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290401 sam yathrob Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:18:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290401 Get over the black and white David! If you are going to vote for Obama now or have already voted for him, it's because you have been stimulated by his Iowa win. In Iowa 95% of the voters are white and they didn't take the factor race into consideration. I don't think that racism or voting for a candidate because he or she is white or black is a factor of change. We are voting for the future president of the United States!!!! Get over the black and white David! If you are going to vote for Obama now or have already voted for him, it's because you have been stimulated by his Iowa win.
In Iowa 95% of the voters are white and they didn't take the factor race into consideration.
I don't think that racism or voting for a candidate because he or she is white or black is a factor of change.
We are voting for the future president of the United States!!!!

]]> By: Rae http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290395 Rae Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:17:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290395 Don't be fooled by the media who stirred this pot! Hillary did not start the race card baloney. They picked her words apart and took them out of context. I'm voting for Hillary. But IF Obama were to win OR Edwards, I'd vote for them. You're acting very immature calling a Clinton a racist. Rae Don't be fooled by the media who stirred this pot!
Hillary did not start the race card baloney. They picked her words apart and took them out of context.
I'm voting for Hillary. But IF Obama were to win OR Edwards, I'd vote for them. You're acting very immature calling a Clinton a racist.

Rae

]]> By: Farrell, Houston, Tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290394 Farrell, Houston, Tx Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:17:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290394 To Dave: I will also surrender my democrat vote to McCain or Romney if Hillary wins the democrat nomination. The republicans know that democrats will jump on board with them if Hillary wins the nomination. Democrats are not focusing on the right agendas and republicans are laughing their way to the White House again. To Dave: I will also surrender my democrat vote to McCain or Romney if Hillary wins the democrat nomination. The republicans know that democrats will jump on board with them if Hillary wins the nomination. Democrats are not focusing on the right agendas and republicans are laughing their way to the White House again.

]]> By: Richard http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290385 Richard Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:15:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290385 I used to vote republican but NEVER AGAIN. Republicans only care about coporate America and not the people. Its time to stop the insanity in washington, so i am voting for the democrats. I used to vote republican but NEVER AGAIN.

Republicans only care about coporate America and not the people. Its time to stop the insanity in washington, so i am voting for the democrats.

]]> By: Jessica, Waco, Texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290352 Jessica, Waco, Texas Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:10:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290352 I am discouraged by the numbers of people turning their backs on the Clintons over a dispute on MLK that essentially was no dispute at all. Clinton pointed out the need for the law to back the movement and vice versa, or there can be no change. Historically, read MLK's letters, especially from jail, HE SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING. Supporters on either side need to be careful when they turn to the media to explode the minutia and take the comments, speech out of context. What happened to the POLITICS OF HOPE! Now all we here is "CHANGE." What a buzz word. Change what? The Bush administration and all it's policies? It's already happening just a few more months, as long as you vote Democrat. I think it is a great a black man and white woman have the opportunity to run for President. However, the sensitivity to racial comments/implications vs. sexist/gender specific comments is drastically different. Citizens are imploding with anger and volition about a non-racist comment made out to be as though it were from the family that has most be in the African Americans corner for the past 30 years. However, sexist rants (iron my shirt) barely get a nod or wagging finger of shame. I've made up mind on my presidential candidate without using these incidents as a crutch or reason, but rather on the issues. Either way, I support Democrats because I enjoy the ideas of restoring a strong middle class, allowing African Americans in my school, throwing away the Confederate flag, boys in my classes, a possibility of environmental and energy policies that will make it safe for me to live on earth for years to come, and a military more invested in peace-keeping charitable missions across the globe, rather than one that is commanded to reek havoc in places it doesn't belong. We have a rookie and veteran -- it's like putting Kevin Durant against Paul Pierce. Neither is incapable, just one has more proof. I am discouraged by the numbers of people turning their backs on the Clintons over a dispute on MLK that essentially was no dispute at all. Clinton pointed out the need for the law to back the movement and vice versa, or there can be no change. Historically, read MLK's letters, especially from jail, HE SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING. Supporters on either side need to be careful when they turn to the media to explode the minutia and take the comments, speech out of context.

What happened to the POLITICS OF HOPE! Now all we here is "CHANGE." What a buzz word. Change what? The Bush administration and all it's policies? It's already happening just a few more months, as long as you vote Democrat.

I think it is a great a black man and white woman have the opportunity to run for President. However, the sensitivity to racial comments/implications vs. sexist/gender specific comments is drastically different. Citizens are imploding with anger and volition about a non-racist comment made out to be as though it were from the family that has most be in the African Americans corner for the past 30 years. However, sexist rants (iron my shirt) barely get a nod or wagging finger of shame. I've made up mind on my presidential candidate without using these incidents as a crutch or reason, but rather on the issues. Either way, I support Democrats because I enjoy the ideas of restoring a strong middle class, allowing African Americans in my school, throwing away the Confederate flag, boys in my classes, a possibility of environmental and energy policies that will make it safe for me to live on earth for years to come, and a military more invested in peace-keeping charitable missions across the globe, rather than one that is commanded to reek havoc in places it doesn't belong.

We have a rookie and veteran - it's like putting Kevin Durant against Paul Pierce. Neither is incapable, just one has more proof.

]]> By: geez in Berlin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290332 geez in Berlin Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:07:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290332 How could anyone from NYC support Clinton? We just gave her a home when AK didn't want her back... And NY has a long reputation for housing the socially and otherwise depraved. You, Bill, and all New Yorkers and the Mayor are the reason the City is rockin' again! Currently in a land with a top woman on top, my opinion is, Clinton does not have it. And I wish (!) more Americans would think more about what the world thinks of us.... It's not so easy over here sometimes, folks. How could anyone from NYC support Clinton?
We just gave her a home when AK didn't want her back...
And NY has a long reputation for housing the socially and otherwise depraved.
You, Bill, and all New Yorkers and the Mayor are the reason the City is rockin' again!
Currently in a land with a top woman on top, my opinion is, Clinton does not have it.
And I wish (!) more Americans would think more about what the world thinks of us....
It's not so easy over here sometimes, folks.

]]> By: Sal08 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290323 Sal08 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:05:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290323 If <100,000 democrats really showed up to caucus in Nevada as reported by this story, how come, with 97% of the precincts voting Obama has only 4731 votes and Clinton has 5318 votes as reported on the CNN website. What happenned to the other 90,000 plus votes If <100,000 democrats really showed up to caucus in Nevada as reported by this story, how come, with 97% of the precincts voting Obama has only 4731 votes and Clinton has 5318 votes as reported on the CNN website. What happenned to the other 90,000 plus votes

]]> By: Mike timmons http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290316 Mike timmons Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:05:14 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290316 What do you think the result would have been if Obama's wife was the ex-president? What if an ex-President was married to Obama, and Obama had her soldiers and machine available to him? Think Hillary would have won then? So all this Clintonite gloating is the braying of the sheep as they march to the shearing shack, once again to be disappointed by Hillary Clinton, who was a Republican until she saw greener pastures in the Democratic party. Do you really believe it is Hillary's message that is winning it for her? So, once again, nepotism wins in the presidential race. Congratulations, mainstream Democrats. You have picked another November loser. What do you think the result would have been if Obama's wife was the ex-president? What if an ex-President was married to Obama, and Obama had her soldiers and machine available to him? Think Hillary would have won then? So all this Clintonite gloating is the braying of the sheep as they march to the shearing shack, once again to be disappointed by Hillary Clinton, who was a Republican until she saw greener pastures in the Democratic party.

Do you really believe it is Hillary's message that is winning it for her?

So, once again, nepotism wins in the presidential race.

Congratulations, mainstream Democrats. You have picked another November loser.

]]> By: Teacher http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290253 Teacher Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290253 How many Illegals were allowed is what I would like to know?? How many Illegals were allowed is what I would like to know??

]]> By: Hillary Supports and Angry bunch http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290251 Hillary Supports and Angry bunch Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:55:31 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290251 Hillary seems angry like a woman scorn. But they seem to be an angry group like the nomination should of been handed to her. America owes Hillary and the Clinton's nothing. The angry Clinton supporters are way too angry. Hillary seems angry like a woman scorn.

But they seem to be an angry group like the nomination should of been handed to her.

America owes Hillary and the Clinton's nothing.

The angry Clinton supporters are way too angry.

]]> By: Christine http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290247 Christine Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:55:06 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290247 Ok. I get the difference. Thanks to all who responded. I should have noticed that one casino awarded 17 delegates to Obama and 16 to Clinton. If that is multiplied by all the sites across the state that would explain the discrepancies. I'm left mystified as to why the process has to be so complicated? On both the Republican and Democratic sides, the people are the ultimate losers. Seems like everyone is "gaming" the system and pandering to a specific group. Here's hoping those of us in voting in the next wave of primaries can turn out in numbers that reflect how hard our ancestors (of all ethnicities) worked to make that privilege possible. Even a few hundred thousand voters in a state with more than a million is still a sad example of the apathy in the U.S. Best wishes to you all! Ok. I get the difference. Thanks to all who responded. I should have noticed that one casino awarded 17 delegates to Obama and 16 to Clinton. If that is multiplied by all the sites across the state that would explain the discrepancies.

I'm left mystified as to why the process has to be so complicated? On both the Republican and Democratic sides, the people are the ultimate losers. Seems like everyone is "gaming" the system and pandering to a specific group.

Here's hoping those of us in voting in the next wave of primaries can turn out in numbers that reflect how hard our ancestors (of all ethnicities) worked to make that privilege possible.

Even a few hundred thousand voters in a state with more than a million is still a sad example of the apathy in the U.S.

Best wishes to you all!

]]> By: Stacy http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290199 Stacy Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:47:53 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290199 I don't think America is ready for a man like Barack Obama. And it is not because America isn't ready for a black man, it's because America is too divided. It's so interesting to see even the most educated individuals be reduced to closed-minded, group thinking. Obama seeks to elevate the political discourse in ways that we can't appreciate. Why would Obama be criticized for praising Reagan? Obama as a liberal probably disagrees tremendously with many of Reagan's policies. But Reagan deserves credit for his role in ending the cold war. Obama understands that EVERY American, black, white, rich and poor would be far worse off had America lost that ideological battle. So while I disagree with Reagan, I respect his vision for what America's place in the world should be. Republicans on the other hand, choke at the thought of giving Bill Clinton ANY credit for the economic properity during his two terms. Now this is also silly. We as a county don't seem to be ready to raise ourselves to a new level of unity...and intelligence. I don't think America is ready for a man like Barack Obama. And it is not because America isn't ready for a black man, it's because America is too divided. It's so interesting to see even the most educated individuals be reduced to closed-minded, group thinking. Obama seeks to elevate the political discourse in ways that we can't appreciate. Why would Obama be criticized for praising Reagan? Obama as a liberal probably disagrees tremendously with many of Reagan's policies. But Reagan deserves credit for his role in ending the cold war. Obama understands that EVERY American, black, white, rich and poor would be far worse off had America lost that ideological battle. So while I disagree with Reagan, I respect his vision for what America's place in the world should be.
Republicans on the other hand, choke at the thought of giving Bill Clinton ANY credit for the economic properity during his two terms. Now this is also silly. We as a county don't seem to be ready to raise ourselves to a new level of unity...and intelligence.

]]> By: Bill Dunmyer, NYC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290113 Bill Dunmyer, NYC Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:37:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290113 Obama supporters are starting to sound like sore losers. The primary process is fair and square. If you lose, you lose. Accept that your candidate failed to attract enough support. Don't attack the winner out of bitterness. I'm a Clinton supporter, but when Obama won Iowa I showed him respect. Obama supporters are starting to sound like sore losers. The primary process is fair and square. If you lose, you lose. Accept that your candidate failed to attract enough support. Don't attack the winner out of bitterness. I'm a Clinton supporter, but when Obama won Iowa I showed him respect.

]]> By: polisciprof http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290072 polisciprof Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:31:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-290072 To Christine: While I applaud your skepticism, the numbers being reported definitely pass the smell test. CNN is reporting the delegate count, not the popular vote. To David: In the interest of full disclosure, I am a strong Hillary Clinton supporter. With that in mind, let me give you some advice. The more that Sen. Obama is perceived as a "black" candidate, the worse are his chances of winning the nomination. His success -- both now and in the past -- has hinged on his ability to transcend race. Your arguments cut him at the knees. To Christine:

While I applaud your skepticism, the numbers being reported definitely pass the smell test. CNN is reporting the delegate count, not the popular vote.

To David:

In the interest of full disclosure, I am a strong Hillary Clinton supporter. With that in mind, let me give you some advice. The more that Sen. Obama is perceived as a "black" candidate, the worse are his chances of winning the nomination. His success - both now and in the past - has hinged on his ability to transcend race. Your arguments cut him at the knees.

]]> By: Dawn http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289938 Dawn Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:16:04 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289938 The numbers for the Dems are delegate numbers while the numbers for the GOP are actual numbers of people. The GOP is more like a straw poll I think is how it was explained the other day. Each vote is counted and reported. The Dems count the votes and then give out delegates based on the votes. When Bill Clinton talked about the at large casino sites counting about 5 times more than other sites that's what he was talking about. It's all very complicated. Each cauces site has a certain number of delegates that are given out based on the number of votes you get. It's not just a straight vote in Democratic cauceses. Example, the cauces at MGM hotel went 86 Obama and 80 Clinton but number of delegates (which is what is being reported on CNN) was only 35 Obama and 34 Clinton or something close to that - ending up one point apart. The numbers for the Dems are delegate numbers while the numbers for the GOP are actual numbers of people. The GOP is more like a straw poll I think is how it was explained the other day. Each vote is counted and reported. The Dems count the votes and then give out delegates based on the votes.

When Bill Clinton talked about the at large casino sites counting about 5 times more than other sites that's what he was talking about. It's all very complicated. Each cauces site has a certain number of delegates that are given out based on the number of votes you get. It's not just a straight vote in Democratic cauceses.

Example, the cauces at MGM hotel went 86 Obama and 80 Clinton but number of delegates (which is what is being reported on CNN) was only 35 Obama and 34 Clinton or something close to that – ending up one point apart.

]]> By: Nick http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289920 Nick Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:14:22 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289920 I am with you Dijon...! those black folks, not all, need to lighten up and do be so defensive all the time. Sure there is racism in the U.S. (and everywhere else for that matter), but by no mean those respresent the majority. Screaming racism sometime reflects you as a racist in a way. I am with you Dijon...! those black folks, not all, need to lighten up and do be so defensive all the time. Sure there is racism in the U.S. (and everywhere else for that matter), but by no mean those respresent the majority. Screaming racism sometime reflects you as a racist in a way.

]]> By: Murphy http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289911 Murphy Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:12:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289911 Did Hillary Really Win NV? Well she may have won the popular vote by 51% to 46% but in terms of delegates, she only wins 13 delegates to 12 delegates (a one delegate victory). The popular vote means nothing e.g. Gore - Bush in 2000. As of now, Hillary supposedly won three states to one (Iowa) for Obama), yet the delegate count is all tied up. Looks like Obama may win a big majority in SC with the black vote The moral of the story here is that come convention time this thing could very well come down to the super-delegates. Do THEY really represent the people? Did Hillary Really Win NV? Well she may have won the popular vote by 51% to 46% but in terms of delegates, she only wins 13 delegates to 12 delegates (a one delegate victory). The popular vote means nothing e.g. Gore – Bush in 2000. As of now, Hillary supposedly won three states to one (Iowa) for Obama), yet the delegate count is all tied up. Looks like Obama may win a big majority in SC with the black vote

The moral of the story here is that come convention time this thing could very well come down to the super-delegates. Do THEY really represent the people?

]]> By: Jermaine http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289894 Jermaine Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:11:15 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289894 Dijon, you must be a Hillary support, no one think the world is against them. The fact is OBAMA campaign on a race neutral election and BILL AND HILLARY injected race and are inciteing Jewish, Black, Hispanic etc against each other. Campaigns should be neutral on race, religion and ethnicity because this country is suppose to be a melting pot, not a racial keg! Hillary is winning because BILL is out being her Bull DOG/BAD COP,...while she try to straddle the field acting good and her campaign is peddling calls and emails to intimidate, suppress and rigged the vote. We expect this from the REPUBLICANS, but what should one expect when Hillary is a Republican turned Democrat, "a Goldwater Republican at that". The DEMS will not win the in NOVEMBER, Hillary might win but as her Husband before her, the CONGRESS will go REPUBLICANS in 2010. OBAMA if you don't win sit this out finish your term in the SENATE and run against Hillary in 2012, you will most certainly win the nomination! OBAMA 2008, and if this time you don't win, you will in 2012, the Lincoln Way is the AMERICAN WAY! REAGAN DEMOCRAT! David, I also agree with you, that the Black will not support Hillary nin the General, am an African American male, and a long time Democrat who has voted in every presidential and senatorial election since I was 18 years old. If Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for McCain, and a huge number of African Americans will protest the election, all because Hillary attacked a viable black candidate by using the "race card" and her supporters have been spewing more racist, venomous garbage than any republican would ever dare." " Dijon, you must be a Hillary support, no one think the world is against them. The fact is OBAMA campaign on a race neutral election and BILL AND HILLARY injected race and are inciteing Jewish, Black, Hispanic etc against each other. Campaigns should be neutral on race, religion and ethnicity because this country is suppose to be a melting pot, not a racial keg!

Hillary is winning because BILL is out being her Bull DOG/BAD COP,...while she try to straddle the field acting good and her campaign is peddling calls and emails to intimidate, suppress and rigged the vote.

We expect this from the REPUBLICANS, but what should one expect when Hillary is a Republican turned Democrat, "a Goldwater Republican at that". The DEMS will not win the in NOVEMBER, Hillary might win but as her Husband before her, the CONGRESS will go REPUBLICANS in 2010. OBAMA if you don't win sit this out finish your term in the SENATE and run against Hillary in 2012, you will most certainly win the nomination!

OBAMA 2008, and if this time you don't win, you will in 2012, the Lincoln Way is the AMERICAN WAY! REAGAN DEMOCRAT!

David, I also agree with you, that the Black will not support Hillary nin the General,
am an African American male, and a long time Democrat who has voted in every presidential and senatorial election since I was 18 years old. If Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for McCain, and a huge number of African Americans will protest the election, all because Hillary attacked a viable black candidate by using the "race card" and her supporters have been spewing more racist, venomous garbage than any republican would ever dare."

"

]]> By: r http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289888 r Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:11:06 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289888 AS for david...i carefully watched the whole thing...home sick...as it went down....it was NOTHING !!!!...it was the media!!!...they pulled and twisted everything ...really there werte no comments about race or gender by anyone....EXCEPT THE MEDIA. ......looking for the ratings again...go figure,,,i mean really david..you didnt even see any of it did you....hmmmm....i think your a republican acting as a black man...yes just a frustrated republican who realize its over for that party. AS for david...i carefully watched the whole thing...home sick...as it went down....it was NOTHING !!!!...it was the media!!!...they pulled and twisted everything ...really there werte no comments about race or gender by anyone....EXCEPT THE MEDIA.
......looking for the ratings again...go figure,,,i mean really david..you didnt even see any of it did you....hmmmm....i think your a republican acting as a black man...yes just a frustrated republican who realize its over for that party.

]]> By: Dave, Atlanta, GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289879 Dave, Atlanta, GA Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:10:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289879 Christine, the vote totals are not actual votes, they are caucus votes. Read about how a caucus works. Christine, the vote totals are not actual votes, they are caucus votes. Read about how a caucus works.

]]> By: Sera http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289834 Sera Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:05:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289834 David, Hillary Clinton is the least racist person you would meet in your lifetime. Your statement is unfounded. The only reason Obama is doing so well, regardless of is lack of experience, past drug abuse, and harsh "childlike" comments to Hillary, is because Hillary is a women! That’s it! If any candidate had as much experience as she has and invested effort and care and organizational skills and educational background, they would be voted in a heartbeat. Obama doesn’t speak with passion. He's just another "guy". I don't believe him, I don't believe he can do even a good job. I believe he will be voted for because the American people aren’t ready for a woman president. And once again the American people will make a mistake. Obama brought the race factor in and constantly plays Mr. Innocent, when he knows best that the Clintons support, help, fight for any and every member of society that needs them. If you read up on things that have been said to Hillary as well as all the rude accusations that have been made against her, you'd be shocked! She keeps her “head up” while having to deal wit all of you righteous ones. She has courage, passion and perseverance. Too bad gender is the real unspoken "card", still today in 2008. David, Hillary Clinton is the least racist person you would meet in your lifetime. Your statement is unfounded. The only reason Obama is doing so well, regardless of is lack of experience, past drug abuse, and harsh "childlike" comments to Hillary, is because Hillary is a women! That’s it! If any candidate had as much experience as she has and invested effort and care and organizational skills and educational background, they would be voted in a heartbeat. Obama doesn’t speak with passion. He's just another "guy". I don't believe him, I don't believe he can do even a good job. I believe he will be voted for because the American people aren’t ready for a woman president. And once again the American people will make a mistake. Obama brought the race factor in and constantly plays Mr. Innocent, when he knows best that the Clintons support, help, fight for any and every member of society that needs them. If you read up on things that have been said to Hillary as well as all the rude accusations that have been made against her, you'd be shocked! She keeps her “head up” while having to deal wit all of you righteous ones. She has courage, passion and perseverance. Too bad gender is the real unspoken "card", still today in 2008.

]]> By: a little sad http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289825 a little sad Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:04:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289825 mark bunyon January 19, 2008 5:24 pm ET "People turn out in record numbers to vote against Clinton!" Did they miss? mark bunyon January 19, 2008 5:24 pm ET

"People turn out in record numbers to vote against Clinton!"

Did they miss?

]]> By: rudy w. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289821 rudy w. Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:03:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289821 Since congress elected a woman for speaker 2 years ago, the new political trend has been set, what trend? USA is ready for a white female president. 51% USA's population is female, my wife is a female, she makes more than I do, she is very capable, personally I don't see anything wrong to elect a female president fir the first time in our history. Black, male or female, is not ready to set a new political trend yet, the trend requires ground up work, we saw other countries elected their woman presidents in the past decade,and they are (were) doing well so American man is prepared. Look at all black presidents in the world, they don't achieve much to convince non black population of USA to accept a black president, not yet, we need proven records to vote a black as our president, it takes time and the time has not arrived for black,. Since congress elected a woman for speaker 2 years ago, the new political trend has been set, what trend? USA is ready for a white female president.

51% USA's population is female, my wife is a female, she makes more than I do, she is very capable, personally I don't see anything wrong to elect a female president
fir the first time in our history.

Black, male or female, is not ready to set a new political trend yet, the trend requires
ground up work, we saw other countries elected their woman presidents in the past
decade,and they are (were) doing well so American man is prepared.

Look at all black presidents in the world, they don't achieve much to convince non black population of USA to accept a black president, not yet, we need proven records
to vote a black as our president, it takes time and the time has not arrived for black,.

]]> By: charlie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289816 charlie Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:03:04 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289816 Republican or Democrats, they are just two different faces representing the special interest. The poor and middle classes are always the victims. Clinton is a true face of politician, and can't be trusted. Remember Bill Clinton platform in 1992 election : "cut tax for the middle class". What did he do when being elected, raise the tax of the middle class. I vote for Obama, hopefully for a change but probably not much. Republican or Democrats, they are just two different faces representing the special interest. The poor and middle classes are always the victims. Clinton is a true face of politician, and can't be trusted. Remember Bill Clinton platform in 1992 election : "cut tax for the middle class". What did he do when being elected, raise the tax of the middle class. I vote for Obama, hopefully for a change but probably not much.

]]> By: Anonymous http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289813 Anonymous Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:02:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289813 The vote is rigged The vote is rigged

]]> By: Julie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289806 Julie Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:01:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289806 I agree with Christine above. What numbers? The numbers being broadcast by CNN show about 10,000 turning out for the Dems and 32,000 for the Republicans. And, on MSNBC, we were taken through an exhaustive analysis of the population centers in Nevada and told roughly 2 million people inhabit Clark County. Huh?!? So I'm glad turnout is enthusiastic, depending on whose numbers you believe, but the bottom line is, just a very few, VERY small percentage of the population turned out to vote in the only primary state so far that even remotely resembles the country, demographically. If it weren't for the media, Edwards would have a fighting chance. : ( But I'm pleased to see the thrashing Ron Paul is giving Giuliani. ; ) I agree with Christine above. What numbers? The numbers being broadcast by CNN show about 10,000 turning out for the Dems and 32,000 for the Republicans. And, on MSNBC, we were taken through an exhaustive analysis of the population centers in Nevada and told roughly 2 million people inhabit Clark County.

Huh?!?

So I'm glad turnout is enthusiastic, depending on whose numbers you believe, but the bottom line is, just a very few, VERY small percentage of the population turned out to vote in the only primary state so far that even remotely resembles the country, demographically.

If it weren't for the media, Edwards would have a fighting chance. : (

But I'm pleased to see the thrashing Ron Paul is giving Giuliani. ; )

]]> By: Eleanora http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289800 Eleanora Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:00:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289800 Christine--for some reason CNN is posting the number of DELEGATES the Democrats received in Nevada, side by side with posting the number of VOTES in the GOP race. Makes it very difficult to read apples to apples, I hope they rethink that. Estimates for voter turnout in NV are 114,000 on the Democrat side at this point; no word on totals for the GOP, but looks like around 80,000-90,000. Christine–for some reason CNN is posting the number of DELEGATES the Democrats received in Nevada, side by side with posting the number of VOTES in the GOP race.

Makes it very difficult to read apples to apples, I hope they rethink that. Estimates for voter turnout in NV are 114,000 on the Democrat side at this point; no word on totals for the GOP, but looks like around 80,000-90,000.

]]> By: Maria http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289798 Maria Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:00:40 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289798 David, You seem a little too willing to cut off your nose to spite your face. Barack is the one who put a racist spin on the whole campaign, and people like you played right into his hands. Suggesting that 'the blacks' leave the Democratic Party sounds about as racist as you can get. Why don't you start your own 'we're going to be bitter as hell if Barack doesn't win' party? I thought Barack was all about unifying the country and putting an end to that kind of talk and thinking, but reading your comments make it quite clear that we are a long way from that happening, and that's because blacks are even more racist than whites these days. That's not quite the uplifting, healing talk that Barack keeps spouting. I guess it is all just talk. Until people like YOU change, there will never be a black president. Go ahead. Vote for 'the man'. And keep on with your bitter little campaign, because there's just as many idiots who will do the same if Barack wins the nomination, I'm sure. People, people. You'll get what you deserve. Are you even listening to the man you claim to support? David,

You seem a little too willing to cut off your nose to spite your face. Barack is the one who put a racist spin on the whole campaign, and people like you played right into his hands. Suggesting that 'the blacks' leave the Democratic Party sounds about as racist as you can get. Why don't you start your own 'we're going to be bitter as hell if Barack doesn't win' party? I thought Barack was all about unifying the country and putting an end to that kind of talk and thinking, but reading your comments make it quite clear that we are a long way from that happening, and that's because blacks are even more racist than whites these days. That's not quite the uplifting, healing talk that Barack keeps spouting. I guess it is all just talk. Until people like YOU change, there will never be a black president. Go ahead. Vote for 'the man'. And keep on with your bitter little campaign, because there's just as many idiots who will do the same if Barack wins the nomination, I'm sure. People, people. You'll get what you deserve. Are you even listening to the man you claim to support?

]]> By: Alex http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289787 Alex Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:59:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289787 Hillary played the race card? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! Barack Obama played the race card and played it heavy. I used to be employed by the Democratic party, and have started up two race relations foundations, but if Barack Obama wins the Democratic nomination, I will vote for John McCain. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with experience. The man was barely in office two years before he started running for President. Sorry, but you can't change anything if you don't know what you are doing. Just look at Bill Clinton's first two years in office. Like it or not we are in two wars right now and the economy is tanking fast, we desperately need someone who knows how to get things done in Washington. That someone is Hillary Clinton. Hillary played the race card? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! Barack Obama played the race card and played it heavy. I used to be employed by the Democratic party, and have started up two race relations foundations, but if Barack Obama wins the Democratic nomination, I will vote for John McCain. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with experience. The man was barely in office two years before he started running for President. Sorry, but you can't change anything if you don't know what you are doing. Just look at Bill Clinton's first two years in office. Like it or not we are in two wars right now and the economy is tanking fast, we desperately need someone who knows how to get things done in Washington. That someone is Hillary Clinton.

]]> By: Mart from Chicago http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289783 Mart from Chicago Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:58:51 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/more-unprecedented-turnout-for-democrats/#comment-289783 Just in case you Pro-Obama-ers didnt notice, 51% in Nevada did vote for Clinton. It is a stupid to say the big turnout was just to vote against her. For David who talks about Hillary playing the "race" card, READ the script of her speech, or listen to what Hillary said about MLK in her speech!!!! If you can understand english or read some english, you'll know she DID NOT say anything to provoke any African Americans. Somebody (and I bet its Obama's camp), made it out as if it is. Then to all those think the vote is rigged, this Nevada election DID NOT use whatever machines they use in New Hampshire, so you can't use ur stupid idea that the machines are hacked. And if you think its human error, I would say recount Iowa coz Obama won and I for one can't imagine how... Just because your favorite candidate lost, does not mean Hillary cheated. Why dont you call Iowa votes were rigged and chant recount?!? you guys are cry babies, and yet you can criticize Hillary for crying on TV. Grow up!! If you hate Clintons so much, go and be a republican... coz she is a Democrat, unlike Obama who wants to be a president like Reagan... Just in case you Pro-Obama-ers didnt notice, 51% in Nevada did vote for Clinton. It is a stupid to say the big turnout was just to vote against her.

For David who talks about Hillary playing the "race" card, READ the script of her speech, or listen to what Hillary said about MLK in her speech!!!! If you can understand english or read some english, you'll know she DID NOT say anything to provoke any African Americans. Somebody (and I bet its Obama's camp), made it out as if it is.

Then to all those think the vote is rigged, this Nevada election DID NOT use whatever machines they use in New Hampshire, so you can't use ur stupid idea that the machines are hacked. And if you think its human error, I would say recount Iowa coz Obama won and I for one can't imagine how... Just because your favorite candidate lost, does not mean Hillary cheated. Why dont you call Iowa votes were rigged and chant recount?!? you guys are cry babies, and yet you can criticize Hillary for crying on TV. Grow up!! If you hate Clintons so much, go and be a republican... coz she is a Democrat, unlike Obama who wants to be a president like Reagan...

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