January 19, 2008
Posted: 06:10 PM ET

(CNN) — Hours after Clinton campaign officials told reporters they were worried about instances of voter intimidation in Nevada, the Obama campaign made similar allegations.

In a statement, campaign manager David Plouffe said there had been more than 200 separate reports of “incidents of trouble” at caucus locations, including early closings, a shortage of registration forms, and random and non-uniform I.D. checks.

“This is in addition to the Clinton campaign’s efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations,” said Plouffe. “These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week’s worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself.”

He added that the campaign had a hotline number for concerned voters to call, and planned to investigate all of the incidents reported Saturday.

Related video: Bill Clinton talks tactics

–CNN’s Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Nevada


Terry   January 21st, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Eric you are the one that is wrong. If you read my entire email you will understand that, Oprah Windfrey played the first race card by saying I am hear to say I am supporting a proud black man for President an African American we all can be proud of and one that will make history and change race for ever. It was Collin Powell who went on Fox News and said only in America can history be made and a proud black man can be President. It was Bennett a Republican who sat on CNN during the Nevada primary and threw every jab at the race card he could to keep it going knowing that the Republican party would continue to fuel it to there advantage.

It was members of the black congressional caucas a racist group by name that are supporting Sen Obama and said they are proud to be supporting an African American and the chance at making history. Not one talked about his qualifications which he has many, it was more important to lie to the American people to say he is a black man. Sen Obama is half white and I hope he is just as proud to be that. But being a proud white man just wont get him as much attension, enough votes or better yet if he is a proud white man he won't make history will he. Sen Obama run on your qualifications the reason I and my team supported you. You and your team need to stop playing the race card because if it does become black and white only 15% of the voting population is African American you will run out of votes. You need to stay diverse and be a proud American period.

Eric if you really think the Clintons a white couple thought they would get an advantage over a proud black man by playing the race card you have a problem accepting the facts and reality. There is absolutly no advantage to a white person raising a race card when they had the majority of the African American vote until your team brought up race. Sen Obama and only Sen Obama gains by playing the race card or does he? It's sad how the Afican American community has forgotten what the Clintons did for them and jumped ship because it is more important to support a proud black man then a friend who has helped them for years. It is more important to make history then to vote for qualification.

I am one Sen Obama supporter along with my team that is gone because Sen Obama's team played the race card. We are joining the Clinton team. Two member of my team are my sister and my brother who are half Afican American and half White and are proud of both races and have never ever used race as a reason to get ahead or as a reason to fail. They are proud Americans that used to support Sen Obama.

Stop the games Sen Obama, stop the game because if you continue to play it not only will the Afican American community lose the gender community will lose also and the Republicans will be in and we will have more of Iraq and maybe Iran and the middle class will be gone.

Murry   January 21st, 2008 12:31 am ET

Billary's campaign tactics are divisive and underhanded. Why make a stink at the caucus if you've already won the popular vote in Nevada and the media has your picture on the front page? It just makes Billary look bad. The Republicans are enjoying this.

dollfc61   January 20th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

I did find it interesting that with all the hoopla over the caucuses in Nevada that there were only 11,000 democrats that voted? The winner on the Republican ticket had over twice that many votes alone. I thought that with the teachers and the culinary workers unions as well as the people of Nevada, along with all the excitement, would turn out more voters than that. Regardless of who's camp you are with, doesnt that seem a bit of a low turnout?

Brian   January 20th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

january 20, 2008

Thank you Peggy. I don't remember the name of the paper that first reported the claims. I didn't realize it was reported on the national news since I have since stopped watching them. My point is that when the Clinton's were claiming suppression Obama's camp denied it. Now that they lost Nevada their tune has changed. I watched the caucauses at the Caesar's Palace and all I could think was that I would never want to vote that way. I'm sure both candidates lost some votes due to this process.

tina   January 20th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

January 20, 2008 8:45 pm

This will never get posted, but here goes.
Hello Annie-

Well I have you beat by 1 year. And NO I don't believe everything Bill Clinton says, but I 'm not voting for Bill, HE IS NOT RUNNING! In this instance I tend to believe him since he had the 8 voters there with him.
Second of all, do your homework. Clinton made her statement during a rally not at a debate. I for one did not find anything wrong with her statement that MLK's dream was realized when LBJ signed it into law..It did take a president to do that. If the bill had gone to the Senate Judidiary Committe it would have been held there, but don't take my word for it look it up. So nothing she said was in any way racist. It was a Obama supporter who brought race into this election and Obama himself said during the Nevada debate that he let his staff fuel the flames.

I also remember how things were during the Clinton Adm. Economy, balanced and surplus budget and no war. That's what I remember. Is he the first president to lie or cheat while in the White House? If you are indeed are 57 years old then you know he's not.

Besides do you really want someone in the White House who admits to have spoke pot and done blow in charge of our weapons? He can't decide to vote YEA/NAY on votes in the Senate, you think he can decide matters that matter to the American people?

If questions and answers are rehearsted before a debate then the Obama campaign better spend more time rehearsing because all he does during the debates is stutter and fumble for answers. We already have such a person in the white house, I don't want another one.

Terry   January 20th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Annie you are the one that is wrong on the Clinton's I am 50 years old and remember them well. I did not vote for President Clinton the first time. I voted for President Bush 1 the greatest President ever. But under President Clinton I made more money in my 401 K then any other time. I did vote for him the second time. I was not going to vote for Sen Clinton because frankly I beleive woman can be to emotional at the wrong times in leadership postions.

But again it was Sen Obama the man I wanted to vote for had his people start the race card. Stating history will be made if a black man wins, having Collin Powell get on TV and saying history will be made if Sen Obama wins because he is a black man. Having Oprah Winfrey who has always supported the Clinton's when they were running against white people come out an support him and the first reason she gave he is a proud black man. Who started the race card. The Sen Obama camp new full well if they could get it started the black community being proud of there heritage would jump on board and run with them. Until the Obama camp started the race war the Clinton camp had the majority of the black support in America and in South Carolina. So who benified from the race card? You really think the Clintons thought they would benifit from playing the race card? What disapointed me as a strong Obama supporter is that until he played the card he was running on change and how he was going to change America and I bought into that idea and said he is the future. I bought his book and became more interested because he was not like Sharpton and Jackson he had ideas for all of Americans and he was a proud man. Then he became the typical minority and he and his camp decided they can not win on change so they abandoned that and went to old school politics and said vote for me I am a proud black man and the Clinton's are racisit and thats when they lost me and my camp.

Sen Obama must remeber he is a proud white man also. He is 50% black and 50% white so that makes him as much white as black but you never hear him or his camp say he is a proud white man because that wont sell and that wont get him votes he thinks and if a white person did what he and his camp was doing it would be called racisit. So all of the African Americans in your camp should be proud of themselves because they have now made you a typical cadidate and change coming from Sen Obama means only a black man in the white house but politics as useal.

Congratulations on being a proud black man and I bet your mom and grand parents are very proud of you for that. You should have stayed a proud American. If Sen Obama wins just because he is African American me and my camp will vote republican even though that means staying in Iraq. Well done by the black community you have found a way to tare the democratic party apart and the republicans are just setting back and licking there chops and adding fuel to the fire because they know the party is now split thanks to Sen Obama and his camp and the African American community.

Sen Obama go back to the right issues you first started running on and what we loved about you because just being black will not make you a good President just like just being white, indian, asain. Good ideas make a good President and representing all of the people not just one group makes a good President. I can be won back over but it will depend on what is said and happens in South Carolina on the race issue. If the majority of African Americans in South Carolina all of a sudden now support you because you are African American then the party is dead and my vote is dead. I want to hear issues again

szeller, FL   January 20th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

To Jack… had to laugh.. My thought is Laura Bush as she has had as much experience in the White House and giving talks as Hilary…

szeller, FL   January 20th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

In response to Tom Davie..Jan 19.. read Worker's comment on Jan 19.. some of the American people care as they did when America elected George Bush twice as President but you see Worker's has it right..there are uninformed and naive voters that "will flock to her like lemmings toward a cliff" kinda like the George Bush folks. She flip flops, we can't trust her, and takes payoffs..$84,000.00 payoff when she was forced to shut up about healthcare when her husand was President. How can we trust that? and by the way.. she was the first to voice concern about intimidation to suppress votes in Nevada. For Obama, for America!

Misty   January 20th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Hillary is using Bill to contort Barack's word! People tune into Meet the Press—I am a Democrat but I am loosing faith in Bill Clinton-Hillary Clinton. Dirty Politics may win some votes right now. But people are wiser than they are given credit for.

gary   January 20th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

muslin

fernando   January 20th, 2008 11:22 am ET

shame on barack hussein obama…is this how he is planning on trying to win elections by special treatment and voter suppression.

if Barack Hussein's supporters can vote in specail places where they work ie casinos then what about the nurses wo works in the hospitals across nevada…do they get to vote in the hospitals.

what a double standard. cnnn and the corporate owned big media refuse to report on this

Mark, Wilkes Barre PA   January 20th, 2008 11:02 am ET

FYI,, I'm saving them ,,, to use againts the very people who wrote them when we get to the general election,,, you know ,, the hypocrits who will bash each other now and the very candidate they soon will pledge there undieing love for in the general election,,,,,, what a joke

Gobo   January 20th, 2008 10:59 am ET

Thanks J.McKinney for responding to my question.

But I was hoping for more educated and nuanced answer.

You said:
"…that is how he has chosen to live his life. He considers himself black. He looks black, not white, and he has married black, not white. I have never seen any reference where he indicated he thought of himself in any other way than black."

How do you know "that is how he has chosen to live his life"? I hope you challenge your own 'black-white' world view.

Select your next president with wisdom!

Mark, Wilkes Barre PA   January 20th, 2008 10:56 am ET

You dem/libs get genuinely upset at each other,,,,,,,,,,,,,You people really are angry with each other aren't you ? ( scatching my head in wonder ) Dont blame republicans this time when you lose. Read your own comments,, better yet save these comments and read them back to your self if or when you lose the whitehouse,,, you WILL have no one to blame but yourselves,,,,,, un-believable

OBAMA 08   January 20th, 2008 10:35 am ET

And the fact that the Clinton's are disputing that Obama received one more delegate in Nevada than she did isn't whining? Again the division of delegates were decided prior to the election just as the casino caucuses were.

Support a candiddate but at least do it rationally and thoughtfully.

Ginny CA   January 20th, 2008 10:30 am ET

Bunch of sore losers. You're all just ticked off because Obama and his campaign's strong-arm tactics didn't work and he got called down on it. You're not fooling anyone with your "righteous" outrage. Get over it. In spite of every dirty trick the Obama camp and his union endorsers used to intimidate the culinary workers, it didn't work. Thank God, Democracy is still alive in our nation.

Awaiting Moderation, USA   January 20th, 2008 10:12 am ET

Caucuses should be outlawed.

Eric in Massachusetts   January 20th, 2008 9:51 am ET

to "Shame on us!", why don't you move to Canada if you like it so much?

JJ Monterey, CA   January 20th, 2008 9:25 am ET

JT January 19, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Michelle, based on much of the polling it seems Obama has a better shot at winning the general election than Hillary. It's the Clinton name that played a large part in putting Bush in office in the first place, and nobody has forgotten.

–> JT have you bothered to look at the most recent POLLS (which are not gospel) but have Hillary winning the Democratic nomination 65% to Obama's 35%. She beats Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani, and McCain beats Obama.

Also Obama's negative ratings have not improved all that much and stand at 51% favorable vs 49% unfavorable. Hillary is at 50/50. (google for the GOPs). Also she is expected to lose SC which even Jesse Jackson won but she is pounding Barack in NY, NJ, PA, and even FL which has no delegates but presumably will in the National Convention.

As to the race issue the media is NOT innocent bystanders here. AND to Eric who wrote "Obama's campaign itself only played a minor role in responding to Bill's baseless claim that it was Obama's fault, and in forwarding a few of the quotes to a limited number of outlets." = what and Obama was sooo naive that he didn't know that by ~forwarding a few of the quotes to a limited number of outlets~ they would in turn PASS THEM ALONG to more and more BLOGS and finally LEAK them to the mainstream media?! duh… it doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out. I saw them on several blogs (and the part Donna Brazile played) before they started to generate public chatter. BUT enough already - I only touch on it b/c I'm really sick of seeing Obama being painted as a Saint in all of this. HE IS A POLITICIAN who unfortunately is listening to his handlers who have been feeding him bad advice. NOW he's being trumpetted as being the "black candidate". Maybe he left NV early to go home to Chicago to rethink the direction that his campaign hacks have been steering him…. Once Jesse Jackson and Donna Brazile started rattling the sabers, IMHO everyone lost. (sorry i'll get down off the soapbox now, didn't mean to come across as being preachy)

The one thing hopefully EVERYONE agrees upon is that the Democratic primary election process is broken :( and needs to be fixed!!! Who would have thought that in the 21st century we would still have "barn dances" in Iowa and "casino gambling" in NV deciding who the rest of us will get to vote for in the national?!

peggy   January 20th, 2008 7:31 am ET

Brian, the Las Vegas Sun endorsed Hillary Clinton. They also stated this on "Face to Face" with Dobbs.

peggy   January 20th, 2008 7:23 am ET

I was never so disheartened as I was at today's Democratic caucus in Henderson at Birkholder school.

As a forensic chemist who has dealt with her share of perps and evil doings, I was not prepared for what ensued from the time of arrival about 10 30 am until 1 pm.
Asking a worker where the John Edwards table was…she replied .."they are not here yet…you might want to pick someone else." It turns out the precinct 1461 had moved from the cafeteria to the gym and a prior table had been set up.

Secondly, when the Caucus began, the temporary chairman, went to the middle of the gym and said "the two presidential candidates Clinton and Obama..go here and here and stay in your own precinct" I got up from John Edwards' table and said.."Wait a minute..what about John Edwards..this is not right. I told the precinct captain..for Obama..that I was going to file a formal complaint. " Hence, the chairman ..added John Edwards' name.

People left, due to the disorganization, two tables having the same precinct number..1478 respectively…waiting in lines only to move to another line due to confusion over which 1478 table to go to. Preference forms were virtually non-existent..as were new registration forms..mostly the leftover forms were in Spanish. People walked out.

After counting the people, some groups were short..Obama and Clinton in 1461. The rudeness and intimidation and name-calling stunned me. I believe in John Edwards and what he stands for , and had a right to be there for my candidate. I did not want to be brow-beaten…told to shut up…or go home if I was going to stay uncommitted..Even the chairman who elected himself…said it made no sense to stay uncommitted. He had NO right to do this.

Three of us stayed uncommitted. One delegate came from the school cafeteria in another precinct. I was floored at my fellow Nevadans and disgusted with how the voting came about. Why would someone want to win at the expense of another's intimidation.

Obama's group told me that John Edwards was backing down and going to go on his ticket. That is a blatant untruth.

Play fair…be morally correct and ethically correct or do not expect a vote in the election in 2008.

charlotte   January 20th, 2008 6:09 am ET

I watched the caucus process in Nevada. Thank God , the rest of the nation is a private process. I can see how people could be intimidated. The voting process should be improved. The caucus process is not an improvement. It is an amusement. Lets just stick to the little booth with a curtain and absoluletly no outside pressure. There are a lot of people who are easily pressured to do things they might not have done without peer pressure. Thus the term "peer pressure."
The little booth is the best, then we can scream it was rigged, demand a recount and cloud the process, and in the end, nothing changes. One thing we have learned in the process is no more punch cards, with hanging chads. Can an election be fixed? Yes! When a vote is confusing, Ex: Butterfly ballot, when a no vote is really a yes vote, things like that. The age of computers, where Identity theft is a real threat,, if someone wants to steal your vote they sure can. It is scary, but we cannot let the threats of hackers, terrorist etc. take away our rights to freedom. The right to vote is the fundamental right of our country. WE must exercise that right. If you disagree with me or not. PLEASE VOTE People who make stupid comments, like "I'll move if so and so wins," who will cut off their noses to spite their faces, those kinds of comments make me very sad

Maeve   January 20th, 2008 5:29 am ET

Holey Schmoley! What a nasty-talking, angry bunch you Obama supporters are!

I don't understand why any state would opt for caucuses anyway (instead of primaries), as - with the public nature of their voting environment and their locked doors- they look to be made for out-of-sight peer pressure and intimidation. Wouldn't the privacy of a voting booth be the better environment in which to secure a person's true choice?

In any case, with the Culinary Workers Union big shots bashing Clinton on TV at every opportunity at least a full week before the caucuses, it's clear they were attempting to intimidate their union members from the moment they endorsed Obama. You'd have to have been living in a cave not to have seen it.

And now Obama supporters here throw their embarrasing tantrums.

The real people to blame are those who rant and rave and inflame all this negative junk! Can't you see that you're directly contradicting the things Obama says his campaign is supposed to be all about: hope, unity, optimism!

No one is asking you not to be disappointed; just don't get so angry you end up working against your own guy, for crying out loud!

Maybe you should ask yourselves: "WWOD?" (What Would Obama Do?) ; -)

Jimmy Baldwin (SC)   January 20th, 2008 5:03 am ET

Women for Obama!

Hillary's dirty tricks are reprehensible.

Eric   January 20th, 2008 4:40 am ET

I'm sorry Terry, but you are misinformed. Obama didn't play the race card, it was played on him. It's arguable whether the Clinton's unclear remarks were intended to incite racial strife, but the end result was that third parties attacked the Clintions, and the Clintons blamed Obama for the mess. Obama's campaign itself only played a minor role in responding to Bill's baseless claim that it was Obama's fault, and in forwarding a few of the quotes to a limited number of outlets.

I personally believe that it was a premeditated plan by them to subtly inject race to cause just what is happening to you: the belief that Obama played the race card. Dick Morris, a former Clinton insider that turned against them, said weeks ago that the Clinton strategy would be to inject race into the campaign, and that is just what happened.

If you look closely at the goings on in this primary season, you will see that much of what comes out of the Clinton campaign against Obama is distortion or even lies.

J.Walton   January 20th, 2008 4:37 am ET

So, was Gore just a crying "sore loser" in '00?

Those on either side who reflexively reject any evidence of election rigging are no different than Bush supporters, sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming.

That doesn't mean that either Clintons claims about what Chelsea overheard (why isn't CHELSEA telling the reporters?) are or aren't true, or that Obamas claims are or aren't true, but that if you dismiss them reflexively, you're a moron who doesn't care about your OWN right to vote.

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 3:40 am ET

Obama not bothering to congratulate Senator Clinton for her nevada win is just further proof of what a spoiled inexperienced BRAT he is.

The Democratic national committe has stated for the record that Clinton won the state delegate election. This is what the 'caucus' was for. State delegates.

From this point. They then go and sort out the national delegates in April. Obama has stated that he has got 13 to Clintons 12.

We dont know that, and the national committe even states that for the record. They arent all written in STONE.

The point is, Clinton won soundly by 6% points, which is actually more than Obama and Edwards COMBINED.

Regardless if Obama tapdances who got 'more delegates' in April he should have congratulated Senator Clinton in winning the STATE DELEGATES SOUNDLY.

He chose to be a PUNK instead and refused.

Just like he REFUSED to denouce those horrible RACIST ads on TV from the very same union that endorsed him. Even Edwards demanded he denouce them.

Who can honestly say NOW that Obama is the great UNITER. He is POUTING like a child.

Hes acting like a PUNK.

Speaking of polls by the way………

what happened to edwards ?

The polls showed edwards at 20% just before the primary.

DOESNT DENNIS WANT A RECOUNT ???? It was 16 points off. LOL

J. McKinney SW MO   January 20th, 2008 2:57 am ET

To Gobo–to answer your question, which was:

"If Barack Obama's mother is American (Caucasian) and father is Kenyan (African), why do most people refer him as "black", or "African American"? Could anybody explain it to me? I have hard time accepting the seemingly inherent contradiction in the public discourse involving this issue. I am not from here originally, if that would help to appreciate my question."

My thought is that the reason he is refered to as black is because that is how he has chosen to live his life. He considers himself black. He looks black, not white, and he has married black, not white. I have never seen any reference where he indicated he thought of himself in any other way than black. Hope this helps you understand.

That said, my vote is for Hillary. GO, HILLARY!!!

Ryan, Gainesville, FL   January 20th, 2008 2:45 am ET

Mart,

You're mistaking anger with frustration. I cannot speak for everyone but I personally am extremely frustrated and not all that angry, just disappointed. Of course I am. I'm frustrated that the political establishment that has been in place (and dramatically magnified in the last 8 years by the likes of Rove) is entrenched enough to fool voters into voting a certain way despite the fact that those very tactics are out in the open and talked about by a major candidate instead of merely being whispered in certain circles or written about on obscure websites. The political tactics and establishment candidate characteristics that were, until now, ignored by the avenues through which most Americans get their news are now being brought to light by the opposing candidate himself and, for whatever reason, those entrenched tactics and so blatantly flawed characteristics win out over a genuine person speaking honestly and calling attention to those very things that currently exist and that he hopes to change for the better.

So yeah, I'm frustrated. And no, I would not vote for Hillary in the general under any circumstance. I would carefully consider my other choice(s) and would probably settle on writing myself in. If Obama accepted a place on Hillary's ticket as VP - which I truly and sincerely hope he would not do - then I will look at that as him selling out the very essence of what he holds onto my vote with and I will never support him again. But I don't think that would happen. More importantly, I do not actually think this is over. SC is big, and I think he can do well there. But I live here in the South, so I cannot help but fear that we're all underestimating the lingering power of racism down here and the seemingly endless ways that that could be exploited when the time comes.

I can only hope that more people than just me had the same reaction that I did at the conclusion of this evening, which was to make another small contribution to his campaign. If he's going to lose, it won't be because he lacked the resources.

OBAMA '08

Annie   January 20th, 2008 2:42 am ET

Brian—please tell me that you do not believe everything that Bill Clinton says. Obviously you are not old enough to remember him as President and how he lied under oath and on TV straight into the camera to all of us. There is a pretty common saying about Bill from back then that still holds true today–"You can always tell when Bill Clinton is lying, you can see his lips moving."

The Clintons are the most devisive people in the world. Do you really think that Hillary wasn't playing the race card when she spoke about Lyndon Johnson and Martin Luther King, Jr. This coming from the mouth of one of the most "experienced" politicians. They rehearse answers to different types of questions before they go into debates. They knew that Obama was not going to play the race card, and that he was growing a hugh momentum and she had to stop it. She, of all the people in the world, being the wife of the "first Black President," knew how that would affect the African American community, but she dumped the Black vote hoping it would bring out the closest racists in this country to vote for her.

I was actually going to vote for her until I witnessed that while I was watching the debate. I am a white, 57 year old female, that would love to have a woman as President, but I will not vote for someone that is willing to devide not only the Democratic Party, but the nation, just so she can win.

Terry   January 20th, 2008 2:37 am ET

I am a new Sen Clinton supporter who has switched from Sen Obama camp because he has decided to make race the major campaign of the democratic primary. I was very upset to hear people on CNN like Bennett and others like Collin Powell, Oparah Winfrey say that it is a great day for black americans becasue an african american can win the presidency. Since when does color become the big qualifiation for winning? The last time I read Sen Obama's book he is 50% black and 50% white so how come he is not a proud white man? If you are 50 - 50 why does one color trump the other. Is because he doesnt get as many votes as a proud white man? That is said because before that he was a great american cadidate running for the white house on his qualifications and excitment and when someone in his campaign decide he cant win on that they played the race card and that is discrimination in the worse kind. I feel for the important people in his life who raised him to be a proud american, his white mother and grand parents because Sen Obama is not proud enough for what they did for him to say I am a proud white man. Remember the most important black man in his life ran out on them and the white people in his life stayed by his side. The votes are more important to Sen Obama then the love they gave him. Now all of the afican american are turning on the Clintons after everything they have done to help them rise above discrimination and move there cause forward the afican american community are stabbing the Clintons in the back shame on you and shame on your leadres that is not what Dr. King would of done. He stood behind those who helped his cause not stabbed them in the back. Well now you know why I have changed camps and Sen Clinton doesnt win I my family and my firend will vote republican because we will not vote for someone who has played the race card.

Brian   January 20th, 2008 2:21 am ET

Annie,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I won't believe any investigation results if it comes out of the Obama camp. The Democratic chairman from Nevada said this afternoon before the caucauses started that they were going to investigate Bill Clinton's claim.. He was interviewed live by one of the news stations before the caucauses started and he had 8 voters that said they were told they could not caucaus if they were voting for Clinton. How interesting. I hope they do investigate.
Obama is showing his true personality now and the American people are starting to see that he's not such a uniter after all.

Annie   January 20th, 2008 2:21 am ET

What— if you vote for Hillary our troops will be in Iraq for 100 years.

What   January 20th, 2008 2:08 am ET

No Ann, we should not vote for John "keep the troops in Iraq for 100 years" McCain. I am a Hillary supporter and I will support Obama shoud he be the nominee. I am just loyal that way. No more repubs.

Cheryl Emmons   January 20th, 2008 2:08 am ET

I think we need some national standards for elections, and step one should be to do away with caucuses. Voter intimidation is always a risk, and many people can't attend due to the time restraints.

However, there is another kind of voter suppression other than that which occurs at the caucuses. There is suppression of information about candidates, fueled by the corporate owned media's preference for candidates that will support the agenda of the corporate owners.

As one example, the Congressional Black Caucus invited Dennis Kucinich to attend the upcoming South Carolina debate, but CNN has refused to let him participate.

This exclusion is occurring on Martin Luther King's birthday, which is a sad commentary on how well his principles are being followed.

Like Dr. King, I also have a dream. I have a dream that we will one day judge presidential candidates, not by the size of their campaign war chests or by the power of their corporate sponsors, but by the content of their character.

I was also dismayed that Dennis Kucinich was not allowed to participate in the NBC Las Vegas debate.

There is a brewing disagreement in this country about what is meant by “freedom of the press”. Did our founders intend for us to interpret freedom of the press as the right of corporations to essentially own the press and then choose what the masses are allowed to say and hear? Or, did our founders mean for us to interpret freedom of the press as the right of individuals to express themselves freely through the vehicle of the press and to have access to uncensored information through the vehicle of the press?

I take the latter view, and I felt that his exclusion, on the basis of the “freedom of the press” rights of NBC, was slap in the face to those who believe in freedom of speech for the people. The press has not only censored him, but in the act of censoring him, they have also censored those who share all, or even some, of his concerns.

He is the only candidate that actually voted against the war. He is the only candidate who supports a single payer not-for-profit health care system. He is the only candidate calling for a withdrawal from NAFTA, a trade agreement that has left many ghost towns across America . How can there truly be a debate when those with dissenting views are not allowed to be present?

After he was excluded from their health care forum, I decided never to join AARP. I stopped watching ABC after the New Hampshire debate exclusion. Now, I have now stopped watching NBC. Am I going to have to stop watching CNN as well? How can we trust any network that is capable of blatantly obvious bias to tell us the truth?

It’s easy for some candidates complain about Bush’s ill-fated war and gain the support of the people when there is nobody there to remind them that they voted to give him the power to launch this venture. I have kids of drafting age. I also have a co-worker who has relatives that live in Iran . What am I supposed to do if they force my sons to go shoot at his relatives? Once, when I was watching the movie Spartacus, I thought about how horrible it must have been to be to be a slave and to be forced to kill. When our kids are drafted for wars we don't believe in, how is it any different than when Spartacus was forced to kill for his master's pleasure? The same thing is still going on after all these centuries. There are powerful people in this country that would force our sons to kill for the pleasure of those who are living lavishly from the profits of defense companies and oil companies. Every time I hear all this saber rattling, it brings me to tears. Some people want an empire and will try to manipulate politicians like puppets to get what they want. Most of us don’t want an empire; we just want a decent country to live in.

A few years ago, my husband almost died due to the conduct of an insurance company. He is only here because I fought hard for his life, but I endured much verbal abuse in the process. Every year, 18,000 people die because they don't have insurance (6 times more people than died as a consequence of the September 11th tragedy). The health insurance companies are holding the whole nation hostage, and none of the other candidates are willing to admit that this situation cannot be reversed as long as private health insurance remains as a for-profit industry.

If Mr. Kucinich is so incompetent, unqualified, and unintelligent, why doesn’t the media let him prove that by allowing him to participate in debates and by allowing him equal time? The exclusions have often been based on poll numbers, but how can a candidate gain support when he has had so little media exposure that many people don’t even know his name? It is quite clear what is happening. Every time he is allowed to speak, albeit briefly, people cheer and clap, so it has been decided that he must not be allowed to speak.

When a Kucinich supporter asked a Des Moines Register employee if he had an opinion about that debate exclusion, the reply was, "It is my job not to have an opinion." This is freedom of speech? This is freedom of the press? God help us. We are losing our country.

The people did not elect the executives of AARP, the Des Moines Register, ABC, NBC, or CNN. Why do they think they have the right to have this much control over the election process?

Where is the FCC, while all this is going on? They want to relax rules concerning media consolidation — as if things aren't bad enough already?

When a company that owns a defense company can purchase a major media outlet and then determine who is and is not allowed to participate in a presidential debate, it is kind of scary.

If CNN will not reconsider, I wish they would at least If give us a sensible reason why corporate rights are more worthy of protection than the rights of individuals and families. Someday, if my sons come home in body bags, or if I am trying to care for a dying relative, in excruciating pain, that has been sent home from the hospital because he or she overstayed the insurance company time limit, I at least want to know why the one candidate that cared the most was excluded.

Candidates that want to use every means possible to avoid war and who genuinely care more about sick people than about insurance companies are always called "moonbeam" candidates. This is usually meant as an insult, but it could be taken as a compliment. They are like warming, piercing rays of light, reaching through the darkness, revealing secrets that some people don't want known and giving hope to others.

We are living in dark, frightening times, and some of us feel that they are taking away the only small ray of hope we have. We are like small, scurrying bugs, nonchalantly squashed under the steel toed boots of media giants.

It's not just about Dennis. It's about every candidate that is willing to put his or her career on the line for us. Jerry Brown was also made fun of, even though he was the twice elected governor of the 6th largest economy in the world. Maybe, now that Dennis has been effectively silenced, we'll never get to hear another candidate that really cares about us.

The people who made this decision should hope that Mr. Kucinich's friend Shirley isn't right about reincarnation. What if they had to come back here, not as powerful judges or wealthy executives, but as one of us — as one of the invisible people without a voice?

Cheryl Emmons

Annie   January 20th, 2008 1:58 am ET

Go Obama Go! This is fantastic, everything the Clintons throw at the Obama camp, the Obama camp throws back!!! No wonder Bill always looks so red and like he is going to explode. He finally has someone that can beat him and do it honestly, and Bill can't handle it.

First Bill says that it was happening when he and Chelsea were walking down a hall, (why didn't he report it immediately?) and then he said that he had just heard about it. Now the Obama camp is actually going investigate actual complaints!

Brian   January 20th, 2008 1:46 am ET

Eric,

Voter intimidation was first reported by a newspaper in Nevada not by the Clintons.

Since Clinton wasn't endorsed by any paper in Nevada, how are we going to blame this on the Clintons. Get real.

Ann   January 20th, 2008 1:36 am ET

Who is this Obama? Why do all his supporters adopt a bullying style, no matter if they are bloggers or union leaders or endorsers?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3217097.ece

Yes, Obama could congratulate Hillary, this is what a man of honor does. I saw how nice Huckabee congratulated McCain. Those Republican men have style. If Hillary is not nominated, sorry, but all decent people should vote Republican. McCain is not that bad.

Maris   January 20th, 2008 12:49 am ET

DAVID PLOUFFE'S STATEMENTS ARE THE LAST THAT I WOULD TRUST REGARDING THEIR STRONGEST COMPETITOR. THIS IS A JOKE. WHAT ABOUT OBAMA'S SC CAMPAIGN TACTICS OF USING "RACE" AS A FACTOR? THE OBAMA CAMP WAS CAUGHT RED-HANDED PLAYING THE DIRTIEST FORM OF POLITICS. SHAME ON THEM! WHAT AN INSULT TO YOUR PEOPLE AND AMERICANS AT LARGE.

IF THEY NEVER SHUT THE DOOR BECAUSE ONE MORE PERSON APPEARS LATE, THEN THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE STARTED THE CAUCAS! IT'S LIKE THE POUTY KID WHO DOESN'T GET AN "A" BECAUSE HE WAS ONE POINT SHY. YOU HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE.

CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY ON WINNING THE NEVADA CAUCAS!!! GO HILLARY!!!

Felix   January 20th, 2008 12:08 am ET

To:Eric in Massachusetts

Obama's father is a Kenyan, get it right. Despite being having a Muslim name, he was never a Muslim.

To CNN, please confirm my facts below.

In Kenya during British colonization, native Kenya were forced to have at list one Christian on muslin name in order to be register and to have a ID. Does having a Christian name or Muslim name, will not indicate region preference. Above all Obama was raised by his white mother/grand mother.

In addition, obama’s father was a champion for democracy in Kenya.

Felix………….Kisumu,Kenya(Obama's father home city)

Jim in Orlando, FL   January 19th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Speaking of "voters", lets not forget that Obama has more time spent in elected office (that would be by a "vote" you Hillites) than Hillary. Say WHAT !!!!!!

gobo   January 19th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

If Barack Obama's mother is American (Caucasian) and father is Kenyan (African), why do most people refer him as "black", or "African American"? Could anybody explain it to me? I have hard time accepting the seemingly inherent contradiction in the public discourse involving this issue. I am not from here originally, if that would help to appreciate my question.

Good luck in selecting your next president.

T-Las Vegas   January 19th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Has it been so long since Bill Clinton was in office that we've all forgotten how prosperous our nation was, how respected we were around the world? Look at us now thanks to 7 years of Bush. If anyone wants to make allegations of intimidations then I'll chime in against Obama. In my precinct, the Obama people were all over you as you walked in the door trying to find out who you were supporting. When it came time to count, 2 Hillary people were able to get accurate counts but because the Obama rep couldnt or wouldnt count accurately they were forced to count 6 times. This woman argued right up until the end seemingly in an attempt to hope the Hillary supporters would leave and let Obama win the precinct by default. Because of this Obama person what should have been a short process judging by the numbers in attendance took close to 2 hours to finish. Way to go Obama, keep trying to cheat.

Mart from Chicago   January 19th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

You pro-Obama-ers are so funny.. saying us pro-Hillary the angry bunch.. I think you are the ones who are angry and whining for the fact that Obama LOST… Now you want recount.. And those who said you will NEVER vote for Hillary if she wins nomination, would you vote if Obama is chosen as the VP?? And to think she wont win the general election is stupid, what makes you think Obama will?? coz I for one, will NOT vote for Obama in General election… So if Obama will lose all Hillary's supporter to the Reps in general election, which would mean 51% of people in Nevada and 39% of people in New Hampshire would go to republicans. Get real now…

And to Eric, if Hillary was personally intimidating, or she told people directly to do it, I will not vote for her. But u got to present a real proof, not just the words of some people who are in fact Obama's supporters who might just be saying those things to make Hillary look bad…. And another point is that she cant be held accountable for every single supporter she had, to intimidate others…. same as Obama, coz i believe some of his supporters intimidate Hillary's supporters too… not to say the race issue that came out… its either Obama himself that make that issue to blow out of proportion, or his supporters with or without him knowing. So again, if you got real proof that Hillary is behind this or have a knowledge and let this so called intimidation happened anyone, I be the first one to tell you i wont vote for her anymore… otherwise, stop bashing her, coz from where i see it, the intimidation is happening on both camps…

And btw, Im voting for Hillary, NOT BILL. So if you think all her supporters are supportin her only becoz of Bill, ur wrong. And some of you are right, we dont own the Clintons anything…. But some politicians nowadays do have some family member in politics in the past. For example: Chicago mayor now is the son of a Chicago mayor years ago,Romney is the son of MI governor, Bush is the son of a former president… does that mean they all are at where they are now just because their father are politicians before them?? It might be a factor, but remember, we Americans voted for Bush and elected him as the president. Not because his father was a former president, but because he's new, he's fresh and you thought he can bring about CHANGE…. well that change is what lead the US to the endless war and sluggish economy which sadly we as Americans have to face now. I for one dont want to vote for another fresh and new president who talks of empty promises of change in politics… coz trust me, Obama is no saint… he might be closer to a saint than Hillary, but he's new and to change politics in Washington needs more than just talk… And besides, we dont need to change the politicis, what we need is a better economy, an end to Iraq war, a better healthcare system, and Hillary offers that too, just like Obama… the only different between her and Obama, is that she has been in national politics more than Obama and I believe she can deliver that promise better than him.

God Bless America   January 19th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Never in history has one person rightfully represented three continents like Obama. He is the hope for the North America, Africa, Asia, and the peace loving people around the globe. This world is going to be so disappointed at Obama's defeat. Anyway, it is all Bill Clinton’s fault. He robs our hope.

Tom Davie   January 19th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

SPIN SPIN SPIN

If obama is such a better choice, why is clinton WINNING.

Iowa is the ONLY state where he won.

I guess you guys DONT CARE what the PEOPLE think.

The people think Clinton is the best candidate.

Im SORRY if that isnt what you want to hear.

This was Obamas last chance to get a HUGE momentum to swing votes in super tuesday.

now all he can claim is a south carolina vote, which he should win because its HUGELY african american.

If Obama doesnt CRUSH clinton there, he is FINISHED.

Now he has to spend a lot more time down there to make sure he does.

Obama CANNOT lose South Carolina and expect to still be a viable candidate.

With the latino vote being so far fetched AGAINST Obama, Clinton can absorb the african american vote being as lopsided against her.

I think this vote in nevada CRUSHED obama. He campaigned EXTREMELY hard here. He pulled dirty tricks (so did the clintons)

The vote comes down to WOMEN.

There are far more women voting in the democratic race than the Republican race. I wonder why?

Carla   January 19th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

The people attacking Obama with "muslim" chants are the most ignorant, childish, and base group in this discussion.

Hilary and her husband did exactly what they wanted to do. They both told people "Look. Obama is black and doesn't deserve the presidency!" At first, people focused on his character and message and now she's making him into a race issue, pointing people to look at the color of his skin, rather than who he is as a person and what he stands for. Suddenly, we're all saying oh yea, Obama's black. That's why I will never vote for her if she wins the dem ticket. I'd rather vote for Mccain if he wins the rep ticket.

len, sparks Nv   January 19th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

Yes, Clinton People who ran a caucus precinct in Sparks turned people away a half an hour early one Obama supporter claimed. She was called back by the Obama people in the precinct and was able to participate, but how many others were not able to. The Clinton people who ran this particular precinct were very aggressive and obnoxious. Hopefully they just made a mistake, and did not single out just Obama people, but it could have cost Obama delegates.

ed woehr   January 19th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

January 19, 2008 8:10 pm ET

Don't put to much weight in the Nevada caucus. When people arrived to vote they were told they could not vote because the door was closed and they were not allowed to vote. The caucus is a scam!!! Many people didn't vote which would have, changing the Nevada out come! We need to go back to a true PRIMARY!!!

Jose Card - Independent   January 19th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Hillary won't be the first woman president, should she be elected by mistake.
History will record that she rules the kingdom with her husband.

Why could England elect Margret Thatcher and Germany, Angela Merkel?
Each of them takes charge of their country alone.

Why do we have to elect a half woman as our president, because the other half is Bill, who won't sit on the sideline even during the election?

The power struggle between Bill and Hillary and confusion in the chain of command will be a disaster waiting to happen. The Clintons know every trick on the book to woo ignorant voters. The Clintons treat the voters simply for the votes.

Obama is a better choice than Hillary.

Shame on Us!!   January 19th, 2008 8:33 pm ET

This is not about candidates whining…yjis is the reality of the sad, repetive sham of our "elections" below is a heading prior to the caucus which reads "Clinton is worried about voter intimidation"… It would have been brought up by her campaign if she hadn't won.

Voting machines that malfunction, a lack of paper ballots, caucuses closing early, voter intimidation, lack of proper identification….We sound like a Third World country…the world must be shaking their heads and laughing at us…I have relatives in Canada AND NOTHING like race cards, gender cards, and the nonsense listed above occurs except on a very minor basis…

Eric   January 19th, 2008 8:30 pm ET

I also have a question for the Hillary supporters. If it turns out that there was widespread voter intimidation in her favor as is being alleged, what would your response be? Would you still stand by her, would you condone it? Would you turn away in disgust?

Because Democrats were quite vocal about charges of election manipulation when the Republicans did it, but it will be very telling if you would turn a blind eye to it when done by one of your own.

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 19th, 2008 8:19 pm ET

AJ, IL-

No, the count is OBAMA 37 and Hillary 37.

We must give credit where it is due.
BUT we must give the votes to the better person!

OBAMA '08

Eric in Massachusetts   January 19th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

An atheist mother, muslim biological father and muslim stepfather's son for President!

Noelani   January 19th, 2008 8:14 pm ET

SERIOUSLY, I do not understand why and democrat is backing Clinton. Just think about the divisions it will create with Hillary AND Bill getting back into the White House! Wake up people! If we vote Hillary we will LOSE THE ELECTION!! I for one, will stay home if she gets the nomination. I am tired of the same old thing and I want change!

I do not for a moment doubt that Hillary's people were pulling this crap at the caucus sites. I truly believe she will do anything and say anything to be president. They will stop at nothing!! Whether or not this would have effected the caucus drastically, I don't know..but just the fact that there are widespread reports of these shennanigans proves that Clintons are ruthless.

Please, please, democrats wake up before its too late! Make Hillary our nominee and we will have a another Republican president! I cannot bare anothe 4-8 years of the Clintons and their style of politics! I simply can't!!

mongoslayd   January 19th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

I have a question for all the Hillary fans…She's supposed to be the experienced candidate right? After all, she does have "35 years of experience making change." First of all can anyone tell me what change she's made? And, if she's made so much change, then how in the hell did we get in a position of needing change? Perhaps you could also explain why she would vote for a war that her "experience" should have told her wasn't such a reat idea?

Robin, L.A.   January 19th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Hate to say it but Obama is starting to sound like a sore loser. It doesn't fit with his "unity" theme.

MR   January 19th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

I am a democrat who will never vote for Hillary. So you republicans better use better judgement than us democrats and get McCain as your candidate. I would vote for him!

Tom Davie   January 19th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

Golden rule

Caucus's are great if Obama wins.

They should OUTLAWED if Hillary wins.

Lets face it. The caucus format plays very strongly to new voters and youth voters which is in Obama's favor. Obama SHOULD win a caucus and a huge african american vote.

Im sorry, but any chance that Obama had for marshalling a bunch of delegates on super tuesday went out the window.

If he loses south carolina, he is TOAST.

Barry   January 19th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

Listen America, There are only ttwo people in this race with presidential qualities, Obama, Mccain. Oh, all this talk about the Clintons. Vote smart and you wont of to worry about the white house turning grey or may be this time red.

Jeffim   January 19th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

oh, wow!
it just tells you what kind of people, sorry underage teens, there are in Obama's support group. After all the hatred and nasty nasty messages they post here (cause they can't really vote, not 18 yet!) they dare to accuse Clinton's supporters of being angry! WOW! That's pretty shocking.
You are what's wrong with his campaign!!!!!!

john   January 19th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Holding a caucus where you work is a mistake. Democrats should never do
this again.

Sue, Michigan   January 19th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

You'd better check the real delegate count, because Hillary already has a lot of the super-delegates, and so is actually ahead by nearly 100. Losing South Carolina, should it happen, is not the end of her bid. Sorry about that!

gello   January 19th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

you clowns call yourselves democrats. so happy that the best days of this country are behind it. Hilary loses in the fall - black people ( Oprah included) stay home ! Whites and hispanics will help her out with the GOP.

AJ, IL   January 19th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

The name of the game is not who wins the first 4 caucauses and primaries. It is who has the most delegates by April 1st. Presently Obama leads Clinton by 1 (37 vs 36). Obama is still in this race considering only 3 to 4 months ago Hillary was leading Obama in polling in Iowa (by 4 pts), in New Hampshire (by 19 pts) , and in Nevada (by 26 pts). Obama won Iowa over Hillary by 8pts. Obama lost New Hampshire to Hillary by only 2 pts, and lost Nevada by 6 pts.

Stay Tuned!

OBAMA in 08!

Derrick   January 19th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

I love you Hillary…and I am with you st8 back in the Oval office.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe   January 19th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

EVERYONE WHO IS DISCUSTED WITH THE HILLARY AND BILL SHOW…. WITH ITS DIRTY FIGHTING NEEDS TO FOCUS THAT ENERGY IN TO MAKING SURE OBAMA WINS FROM NOW ON EMAIL PHONE AND SPEAK OUT!

IF THIS IS HOW US DEMOCRATS FEEL TOWARDS HILL AND BILL NOW IMAGINE HOW REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO FEEL AND VOTE TOWARDS THEM IN THE GENERAL ELECTION !

HILLARY,BILL AND BUSH ARE THE SAME MONSTER!

TAKE THE POWER BACK!!

STAND UP!!! SPEAK UP!!! VOTE!!!

WBK   January 19th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Seriously, if the Democrats want to win the presidency election and take office, they should vote for Edwards. America is a majority white country, not that I'm racist, but I still think that no-whites would elect a black, especially muslim brought up, guy to lead the country after all the past terrorism attacks on the USA soil. And I still don't believe that a woman can lead the country, they're too emotional. So, either Obama or Clinton represents Democrats, this will only mean that you guys are throwing away the presidency to the Republicans, again, which would most probably be McCain. Stop the same mistake, don't vote someone who isn't capable of throwing a real challenge, you guys did a mistake by putting up a "tool" John Kerry up for president, and he didn't even come close to beating Bush. I'm personally a Democrat guy, I'll vote for whoever Democrat that runs for presidency, but I voted for Edwards in Iowa 2 weeks ago. Just don't screw this time, and put a Democrat in office next term.

pete   January 19th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

I thought people in nevada really were more well informed. to waste your vote on a politician like hilary clinton goes to show an ignorance that i hope wont be repeated in the rest of america.

DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE WITH HILARY THAT WE MADE WITH GEORGE BUSH!!

Phil Memphis, TN   January 19th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

I wish the Obama camp would quit whining every time something doesn't go his way. I want to like the guy, I really do.

Tom Davie   January 19th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

SPIN IT BABY SPIN IT.

Obama and Clinton chaffing at the bit to get Culinary union so they can manipulate the caucus's on the strip. Both will say nothing if they get it, both will complain if they dont.

Obama gets endorsement = clinton stamps her feet goes to court

Clinton loses in court = Obama Union rags on her as a racist (commericals)

Bill clinton complains about 'strong arming' = Obama says tough beans

Clinton wins Nevada = Obama complains about the same strong arming.

LOL

its becoming as good as Abbot and Costello , Laurel and Hardy comedy routine.

Scott   January 19th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

It is about time we start voting what is in our hearts and minds and what is good
for all of us. Read between the lines of the issues and where the politicians stand on them and quit listening to everyone
else's stupid opinions. It is not about race, not about popularity, not about gender.
It is about who will work for an honest cause, for the people. l

S, WI   January 19th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

Chicago style politics?

Graham F   January 19th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

As a Democrat…I will be voting against HRC if she wins the nomination…you can count on that.

scott   January 19th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

I was at a caucus that used the same suppression techniques in Reno. They did not check anyone's ID and were telling people they should be at another precinct because they did not have accurate maps of the precinct area! This caucus was very unorganized and some serious reviews need to be in order.

Mati   January 19th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Why does CNN posts on all blogs that stupid comment of the jacK guy? Discrediting Hillary will not do it.

And Obama who is starting again to play his "oppression" card that takes various forms? Two days ago he was making a mockery of Clinton and Edwards.. he will be never forgiven for that tone. We have all listened to the Las Vegas debate, and he misrepresented his opponents' statements. There are limits of bad behavior in these campaigns, plus voters expect more focus on real issues. Now, because he lost Nevada, he starts to cry again when 2 days ago he was so sure about winning with his endorsements. If it was pressure on voters it was because of those endorsements and caucusing at workplaces. Otherwise, even more would vote for Hillary. Use some logic.

JT   January 19th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Michelle, based on much of the polling it seems Obama has a better shot at winning the general election than Hillary. It's the Clinton name that played a large part in putting Bush in office in the first place, and nobody has forgotten. Ultimately, though, I don't understand why anyone would go with hilldog. She's not a leader I'd like to look forward to the state of the union address, to someone getting me charged up about making a difference. Hillary does none of that. She's just someone people who do very little in the first place can throw their support behind in order to covince themselves that something is gonna get done. It's up to us to make this country great, just as it's up to the employees to make any business great. Who would you rather work for?
PS Bill Clinton didn't have much experience when he was elected.

Sue, Michigan   January 19th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Where's the proof? This is all innuendo, as it was in NH.
Go Hillary!

Juli An   January 19th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

I'm sure that a small percentage of both the Clinton & Obama supporters / voters were out of line. Everyone is keyed up and upset. If Obama had started his campaign with going into the details of his plans and not just fluffy sermons of "change" - things would be a lot different. Plus, if Edwards starts becomes more vocal on his plans and stops with his corporate greed chant - neither one may end up winning.

john   January 19th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

There was no intimidation of Clinton voters at the casinos. This is just another
Clintonite tactic, like their dumb failed lawsuit, to bully when you can't get
your way and win an endosement. What there was, instead, was a revolt
by the union casino workers, mostly Hispanics, against Obama. This is
how she won.

James Brown ( Independent )   January 19th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

As dirty as the Clinton's play , it turned out pretty close. But i really think it is time for Obama to take the kids gloves off , he can't beat her unless he beats her at her own game.

There is no doubt about it , if Clinton is the Nominee , the Repblicans will win in the General.

Clinton is just plain bad for this country , and Independents well do there part to keep her out of the White House , to say nothing about allot of Democrats that will cross over.

If EDWARDS would get out of the way , i think that would help Obama.

Hillary Supports Angry   January 19th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

Hillary's supports are always Angry.

America owes Hillary nothing, I am getting turned off by how angry the whole Hillary support group is.

Why are Hillary's supporters such an Angry bunch.

joe   January 19th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

GROW UP…GO AND CRY TO YOUR MOMMY, OPRAH..

darrell   January 19th, 2008 6:55 pm ET

Good will always win. Nothing can stop the movement for change.

The unusual lawsuit 10 months later, was a clear sign of voter suppression. Problems were reported at the caucuses. The NH Voting Machines were found defective?

S.C. She will now find her black voice, to court the black vote.

S.C. Voters, Wake up, She will assume the White Vote is hers.

She is promoting division. Divide and conquer

Hard to believe this is the Dem party.

Movement for Change is in your hands S.C.

Obama 08

Michelle   January 19th, 2008 6:54 pm ET

Obama loses AGAIN and his fans bombard the boards!! Get over it, his time will come, in 8 years time. First we need Hillary to undo the damage of 8 years of the GOP

Russ, Cincinnati, OH   January 19th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

First of all,

You can't rig a caucus Steve25. You can have voter intimidation but you can't "rig" a caucus.

Second of all,

Both camps said they each heard about voter intimidation for their sides. Now everyone can take this article to bash the Clintons as they do on every article. You Clinton-bashers always jump all over them when someone suggests wrongdoing without any evidence. I prefer to have substantial evidence before I bash anyone.

I will wait for actual evidence instead of weightless accusations.

Steven   January 19th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

This is why we shouldn't have a stupid caucus system anywhere. We shouldn't peer pressure people to vote. Make every election a primary. And for those who say Clinton is the only one who "suppressed" votes, need to wake up and realize all campaigns have and will continue to do so, so long as we have this undemocratic caucus system in place. By the way, Obama's camp sounds like Al Gore…recount….Hillary talked about this same thing happening in Iowa with Obama and his people were like no, not us. Now they are doing the same thing. Shame on Obama.

Amstrokay   January 19th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

Here we go again, she has won this one again. Just wonder what else you sycophants will say next time. Keep it up Hillary. You go GIRL.

anon middle america   January 19th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

Why not have kucinich demand a recaucus?

How's that recount in NH coming along? Any word yet or have they given up trying to spin that one to Obamababy's advantage?

Is Obamarama going to go running back to Winfrey whining that the big boys have been picking on him again ;) Better suck it up Obambi if you think the GrandOldParty is going to give you a free ride… (oh sorry now we'll be accused of scaring the younger crowd.)

OBAMA IS A POLITICIAN not a saint. He would be an oxymoron to be both - as much as he might wish to be.

Darlin   January 19th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

South Carolina - please protect yourself!

Darlin   January 19th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

Does anybody want a balanced budget? Is anybody worried that it is a fact that part of Barack "Hussein" Obama did receive part of his education at a Muslim school? Are you worried that he does not salute our flag? Get real! Which candidate should be scaring us? Barack Obama!!!!! He is the ringer - sent in to divide our country and eventually cause it's demise. Has America lost it's mind? I can't believe people are supporting a lieing "Muslim"?

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 19th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

Seems to me that there should be some rules that Billary is breaking in the Democratic Party while playing their 'dirty tricks' and the head of the Democratic Party should call for an investigation.

President Hilary   January 19th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

Hilary should be allowed to claim her birthright.

sam   January 19th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

With all this mess, if Obama does not win, just pray Mccain wins the presidency!!! we need him for America and for the world!!

JS   January 19th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Unions are only supposed to intimidate when the Democrats are running against Republicans. It's just not cricket to subvert the vote when it comes to fellow Democrats. It's just not fair.

Anonymous   January 19th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Shame on those who have planned the systam of rigging.

Sean   January 19th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

I am on the ground here in Nevada and I can tell you several people have called in, some near to tears, telling stories of harassment by Clinton supporters in the caucuses. One lady who said she was the only African-American in her precinct said she got racial threats in her Las Vegas precinct…when this campaign began I was considering voting for Clinton if she got the nomination. Now, hell no. I will never vote for her. Her campaign has exceeded all boundaries of human decency.

Tundit   January 19th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

Clintons are pure liars.

dave   January 19th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

Hilary divisive politics will win against Obama's message of Change.

Steve25   January 19th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Listenup! The election was purely rigged.

Karen, Jersey City   January 19th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

Thank you Bill and Hillay for showing your behinds. Now the rest of the country can see what you're really made of: LYING, CHEATING, DECEPTION, BULLYING.

America, DO NOT VOTE for this mess. This dictatorship must end!

Farrell, Houston, Tx   January 19th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

To inner city case worker, you're so correct and that's why the republicans have been so quiet. People better wake up and with the quickness.

Mart from Chicago   January 19th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

HAH… when Hillary speaks of vote suppression, you Pro-Obama-ers said get over it Hillary, you gonna lose nevada… Now she wins, then Obama speaks about vote suppression, you all think its OMG its TRUEEE, Hillary's a crook… Let me be the first to tell you that Obama's not a saint and for his campaign to accuse and speak to that extent without proof, tells me that he is soooo desperate to win and will do anything to get to the white house.. yet you proObamaers think he's a saint and believe in his so called CHANGE… yet you think Hillary's desperate to win…

inner city case worker   January 19th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

Dems Wake Up! Republicans would love to debate her in the general. Geeze, and all the Indies will follow.

I just don't get it.

milka   January 19th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

No suprises with the Clintons!

Workers   January 19th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

“COUNT ALL THE VOTES” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side in Las Vegas. In that case Hillary’s operatives file a lawsuit to disenfranchise the voters she wants to silence. More dirty tricks from the masters of sleaze. This is just the beginning for her.

“GET CORPORATE LOBBYIST MONEY OUT OF POLITICS” she yells, except when it does not benefit our side. In that case Hillary takes more of their money than all the other Democrat AND Republican candidates COMBINED.

What hypocrites. The saddest part is this corrupt bunch will win because - “WE WILL BE MAKING HISTORY BY ELECTING THE 1ST WOMAN PRESIDENT” she yells, and the un-informed and naive will flock to her like lemmings toward a cliff.

After, and because of her Presidency, it will probably be another 200 years until a woman gets a chance again.

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