January 20, 2008
Posted: 12:45 PM ET

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) — Chelsea Clinton and Vernon Jordan, a longtime adviser to President Bill Clinton, quietly attended two African-American church services in South Carolina on Sunday, six days before the state's Democratic primary.

The appearances are part of the Hillary Clinton campaign's outreach toward the state's black voters, who are expected to be a crucial constituency in the primary vote. Barack Obama holds an edge over Clinton among African-Americans according to recent polls.

Chelsea Clinton attended the 11 a.m. service at Bible Way church in Columbia, whose pastor, state senator Darrell Jackson, is a member of Hillary Clinton's South Carolina steering committee.

Jordan and his wife Ann attended services at Brookland Baptist Church in West Columbia.

Hillary Clinton will make her first post-Nevada appearance in South Carolina tomorrow morning in Columbia, while Obama will hold a rally at the Columbia Convention Center tonight.

UPDATE: The Obama campaign points out that Michelle Obama also attended 11 a.m. worship services at Bible Way Church on Sunday.

– CNN South Carolina Producer Peter Hamby

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • South Carolina


pete   January 23rd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

there you go. Clinton, who says she cares about blacks in south carolina, flys out to california to get an edge on obama, and leaves her husband to get the black vote in south carolina.

SEND HER A MESSAGE, WE ARE NOT AS STUPID AND YOU AND BILL THINK!!!!
VOTE OBAMA!!!

Adriana   January 21st, 2008 10:52 pm ET

Who is more qualified?

Hillary!

Obama sure knows how to talk but Americans need to see beyond big talkers like Obama. He is not ready for the presidency despite what he says. You don't hire someone just because they say they can do the job. Come on people. Let's be realistic here: someone with Obama's experience should not be elected as president of the United States! After what the Bush Amin. has done to this country, please don't tell me we're going to elect someone with so little experience. The entire world is watching…

CW, Cola, SC   January 21st, 2008 9:39 pm ET

It might have been helpful to included the fact that Sen Jackson is also principal in a Communications firm doing work for Sen Clinton and that his endorsement was made after the announcement of the contract.

Susan Caldwell   January 21st, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Hillary, would do so much better among african americans if she would stop bill, from making hateful comments about senator Obama. The clintons are loved and set in high estem in the black communities - but obama's not an outsider in many senses. What happens to the democratic party if she alinates the younger votes? They will either become independents or republicans, then let's see if the democrates can win the general.

I will lead the fight to make Mitt Romney, and experienced economist the choice of a people that can not find a place in america not matter what.

Bill, chill out, or you may hurt our party a lot more than you are helping Hillary!!!

Al in Wpg   January 21st, 2008 2:36 pm ET

I was a Obama/Edwards supporter, but since the Clinton spawn has entered a black church, my mind is changed.
Hillary 08

RuthieM   January 21st, 2008 2:01 pm ET

I guess she wore her sunday best pants suit.

Tom Dedham, Mass   January 21st, 2008 12:50 pm ET

Excuse me "Shocked", speaking of falling for it hook, line and sinker can you or any of the FLOCK also "answer" for Clinton surrogates and supporters Cuomo, Shaheen, Johnson and Penn to name a FEW who made racist remarks, innuendos and blatant falsehoods on behalf of the Clinton campaign?

Now these people who had to apologize or got FIRED from the campaign count don't they?

hp   January 21st, 2008 11:03 am ET

Hilary 08.
She represents people with income $50,000.00 and less. She represents people with all races. She represents the INVISIBLES.

j-dog   January 21st, 2008 10:46 am ET

There is one simple fact in all of this. Hillary Clinton has won the nomination at this point due to the number of "super-delegates" that have already committed to her. Obama's last real stand was Nevada, he had the largest union in his camp, they were allowed to caucus in the casinos and he still lost. Now, for all of you "Dems" that are stating that you will not vote for Hillary. You are playing into Karl Roves hands, you will decide to place a Republican in office by either casting a vote against Senator Clinton or by not voting at all. Makes a ton of sense to me! The upcoming Presidential Election will pit a Democratic nominee versus the Republican nominee. Such an election will be purely based on issues such as the War, the Economy and Energy. We have seen the Republican gameplan the past 8 years and I for one am tired of losing the game. Get a grip people and Go Dems 08′

ron   January 21st, 2008 10:27 am ET

I think Obama and the media needs to quit putting so much emphasis on the Black vote–makes me feel as if my vote does not matter being a white person–Obama is doing just like his canadiates prior to him–use the race card– if you cant win on your own merits yell and scream about race–what a disgrace to all black voters to buy in to this–Good luck to this country if Barack Hussein Obama wins this election—

TINA ny, ny   January 21st, 2008 9:58 am ET

christine- let me remind you, chelsea is her daughter and bill is her husband. OK
Now you don't seem to complain Michelle campaigning. Why don't you ask Obama NOT to bring his girls out.
Obama supporters are just out to lunch.
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Christine, Overland Park, Kansas January 20, 2008 7:04 pm ET

i don't understand why chelsea clinton is campaigning. sen. clinton needs to stop having chelsea and bill campaigning for her. doesn't chelsea have anything better to do? doesn't she have her own life? or is she forever to remain in her parents' shadows? the fact that she can't even speak (as in give speeches and so forth) would be so embarrassing if i were in her position. she's like what, 30ish? she's not a child. it reminds me of those laura ingalls wilder books "little house on the prairie" that we had to read in elementary school. Ma would always say "children should be seen and not heard". sheesh.

i think it would reflect much better on sen. clinton if she let her daughter do her own thing. let chelsea be an independent woman who is a success in her own right. of course, since sen. clinton isn't exactly a self-made woman (as in she majorly piggybacked off of bill's success), perhaps she's just continuing the tradition. who knows. all i have to say is that as a young adult, i feel sad for chelsea that she doesn't get the opportunity to speak her mind. maybe the reason why obama has the support of many people my age is because he doesn't disregard the young voters and is willing to listen to us.

TINA ny, ny   January 21st, 2008 9:52 am ET

TULL- just by calling Bill racist you have given proof that there is computer access in mental hospitals as well.
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Tull January 21, 2008 12:23 am ET

Not this woman. If Hillary gets into the White House, the fat cat hobbyists will swarm around her like flies around rotten meat.

Is Hillary the candidate, is her racist husband?

Our country is not a dynasty: Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, forever, why not?

If Hillary gets back into the White house, only the people money will have any say regarding how the country will be governed, and the rest of us have to be satisfied with paying taxes and shut up.

I support Obama. He is a graceful and proven leader with good judgment. To name one, the war.

Bill   January 21st, 2008 9:47 am ET

And where is the separation between church and state at this point?

Ginny CA   January 21st, 2008 8:32 am ET

To Hillary HATES CATS: Hillary does NOT hate cats! You've been posting that lie all over the place. She loved their cat, Socks, but she is ALLERGIC to cats. Man, I've read some pretty far out criticisms of Hillary, but yours beats them all. Get the facts before you embarrass yourself further.

Obama a mistake   January 21st, 2008 8:09 am ET

Sun-Times Exclusive: Obama surfaces in Rekzo's federal corruption case
Obama is the "political candidate" referred to in document which outlines case against Rezko
For the first time, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama has surfaced in the federal corrupton case against his longtime campaign fund-raiser, Tony Rezko, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned. Contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating. The allegations against Rezko that involve Obama are contained in 78-page document filed last month in which prosecutors outline their corruption and fraud case against Rezko. Trial Feb. 25. Obama’s name to come up in court is a political headache he doesn’t need.
Obama is the “political candidate” referred to in a section of the document that accuses Rezko of orchestrating a scheme in which a firm hired to handle state teacher pension investments first had to pay $250,000 in “sham” finder’s fees. From that money, $10,000 was donated to Obama’s successful run for the Senate in the name of a Rezko business associate, according to the court filing and the source. Rezko, part of Obama’s senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing “at least one other individual” to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual — in possible violation of federal election law. Obama — got the contributions in 2004 — has moved to distance himself from Rezko since his longtime friend and supporter was indicted in October 2006. After news that Obama had engaged in a real estate transaction with Rezko’s wife at a time Tony Rezko was known to be under investigation, the senator called the episode a mistake.” Obama donated more than $44,000 in Rezko-linked contributions to charity last year, including the $10,000 donation mentioned in the court filing. That money was donated to Obama by Joseph Aramanda, a Glenview businessman and Rezko associate who, sources have said, is the “Individual D” prosecutors say received the $250,000 in finder’s fees demanded by Rezko. Individual D did nothing. In 13 years in politics, Obama has gotten at least $168,000 in campaign donations from Rezko, his family and business associates. The Sun-Times reported

Tizzy   January 21st, 2008 7:30 am ET

CNN rarely covers Obama .It is Hilliary or Bill and sometimes Edwards. It is clear the media is slanted in its coverage of the primaries. My support of Obama is strenghtened more when the media continues to treat some candidates unfairly while pandering to the tag team of Hillary and Bill. CNN should respect its mandate of fair reporting. Obama is an idea whose time has come. Get it.

Tizzy   January 21st, 2008 6:44 am ET

The Clintons have a penchant for linning up Blacks that disparage Obama to demonstrate that they have the support of African Americans. This is due to a a deep complex. For Hillary, she cannot go it alone, except the spouse is there attacking her perceived front running opponent or the daughter has to be introduced into the fray by attending a black church with the Vernon Jordans. When Obama arrives any state for campaigns, he walks the stage with the American people who do not denigrate the Clintons to showcase his acceptability, not Whites or Blacks or Browns. The American press and analysts are yet to see through the Clintons deceit and inferiority complex. How will it look if Obama starts doing the exact opposite by parading his White supporters or Edwards his Black supporters as if they are appealing to that section of the American electorate. The Clintons should explain whether they need only the support of Black Democrats in South Carolina. This is bad for a country that claims to be above prejudices. A vote for Obama is a demonstration of the spirit of the times which is CHANGE. Change Hillary & Bill Clinton cannot bring to America by running for primaries as a tag team thereby confirming that Hillary is deficient and also to avoid another round of tears on this campaigns for a would be President. Obama for President.

Geneva   January 21st, 2008 5:58 am ET

People go on and on about how the Clintons are horrible, and all this other CRAP, but c'mon. This country's ecomony was never the same after Bill left office. The unemployment rate was LOW, we HAD a surplus. Who cares if he slept around? I still can't believe people are still talking about that! What does she have to do with any of that? I could care less if any of you want to leave the country if she is elected. I had to live with George Bush for 8 years, and if I'm still here then that's patriotism. Please, by all mean, vote Republican…they are gonna need someone like you.

Let me mention…Obama did not vote for the war, BECAUSE HE WAS NOT THERE TO VOTE!

Clearly I'm posting this to a large group of Obama supporters. Perhaps if when he talked he actually SAID something. We wouldn't waste our time here.

Katherine   January 21st, 2008 5:07 am ET

I, for one, do not trust Obamba. He doesn't come across as honest to me. There are many people who have said that they would not vote for Hillary if she were elected to the nomination. I would not vote for Obamba. Of all of the candidates running on both sides there are only two whom I would feel comfortable voting for; Hillary or Edwards. If the constitution were changed and the Republican party nominated Governor Schwartzenaeger (sorry, I can't spell his last name correctly), I would likely vote for him.

I'm not telling anyone they must or must not vote a certain way, but this election has the potential to be very polarizing, and as there are people who won't vote for Hillary just because she is Hillary, there are people who won't vote for Obamba because he is Obamba as well.

Cath   January 21st, 2008 4:13 am ET

If Obama wins the nomination I would totally vote for McCain for president. I wouldn't want another INEXPERIENCED president fumbling his way around the oval office. Doesn't that scenario seem familiar to anyone???

MS KITTI   January 21st, 2008 2:37 am ET

Mr.President B. H. Obama:

If you feel like you are running a campaign against both (Hillary & Bill) CLINTON…
learn from them….CHOOSE MRS. B.H. OBAMA (MICHELE…) as your Vice-President. WHAT A TICKET THAT WILL BE!!!!
CONGRESS will THEN change the (presidential) RULES
REMEMBER: WHEN ""WE"" GET IN THE GAME, THEY CHANGE THE RULES!!!
AIN'T NO STOPPIN US NOW-W-W-W-W…WE'RE ON THE MOVE….

Obama 08   January 21st, 2008 2:06 am ET

Dear DNC,
If Hillary is the nominee.
I will vote Republican.
Thank you.

jj   January 21st, 2008 2:01 am ET

Re: Bill Clinton is not running for President???Hilliary is, so right back at ya with the DUMMY comment!

Jessie   January 21st, 2008 1:55 am ET

Obama has just as much experience as Hilary Clinton. The only experience Mrs. Clinton has is trying to push health care through. Which she failed at horribly. She did not EVEN have enough getup and go to get that done, and her husband was the president with a supportive congress and senate. What do you think she will do when the tough get too tough. CUT AND RUN. Her hand is out like it has always been. She is the same status quo as all the other so called establishment figures in Washington. At least Obama has a proven track record in the grass root arena to prove what he is about. Go on and Vote for her and see what you will get…NOTHING. There will be a change with this election no matter what you might do and for whomever you vote for because the people want change. I would vote for impreachment of President Bush and VP Dick Cheney. And when they are out of office I would vote to have them indicted for the deaths of 3000 + citizens of our country who fought a senseless war,

pete   January 21st, 2008 1:49 am ET

Speaking in Harlem after she received the endorsement of Calvin Butts, a leading black pastor, Mrs Clinton said that a vote for her should not be seen as a vote against Mr Obama. "I have the highest regard and admiration for my friend and colleague Senator Barack Obama. He is an extraordinary person with many gifts and contributions to our country and the world. I am honoured to be running with him," she said.

LISTEN TO THIS BULL FROM CLINTON!!! ANYTHING SAID OR DONE TO GET A BLACK VOTE. ITS DISGUSTING.

Troy   January 21st, 2008 1:32 am ET

Illinois for Hillary!!!!!!!

swissdiver   January 21st, 2008 1:28 am ET

So what if Michelle Obama attended the service too? Who is she? She is an opportunist like her husband. People, don't you get it, the Obama's are losers!!!
Hillary' 08!!!!!!!

Mrs. America   January 21st, 2008 1:13 am ET

It looks like a lot of people posted before the update that Michelle Obama attended the service at the same church also. I don't believe she is a regular parishoner at that church.

Get a grip, peeps. There are campaigns going on. This is how they work.

Bethy   January 21st, 2008 12:59 am ET

Obama/McCain '08 OR McCain/Obama
Let's cross party lines and put the two most electable and probably most likely to get some stuff done (since they are also the most likable).

kelly   January 21st, 2008 12:52 am ET

The Hill-Billies are not trying to pit blacks against blacks. They are trying to make the whites discusted so they will not vote for a black man. The media is helping the Hill-Billies out everyday. They continue talking about the black vote and how the hispanics think they are white etc etc etc… The devision between hispanics and whites in this country have never been as volitile as with blacks. Racism is alive and well in this country and the Hill-billies are playing the race card like pro's
As white women I can see what they are doing.
Vote Obama and help keep Hill-Billies out of OUR White House!!

Truethis   January 21st, 2008 12:42 am ET

Hillary know that she can't be president without the Black votes more than the Latino votes. Blacks are legal. Keep kissing Hillary. Same ol status quo.

kelly   January 21st, 2008 12:36 am ET

They don't say there'll be Hill-Billies back in the white House fo' nothin'.

Tull   January 21st, 2008 12:23 am ET

Not this woman. If Hillary gets into the White House, the fat cat hobbyists will swarm around her like flies around rotten meat.

Is Hillary the candidate, is her racist husband?

Our country is not a dynasty: Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, forever, why not?

If Hillary gets back into the White house, only the people money will have any say regarding how the country will be governed, and the rest of us have to be satisfied with paying taxes and shut up.

I support Obama. He is a graceful and proven leader with good judgment. To name one, the war.

Dennis   January 21st, 2008 12:14 am ET

I sure hope that America wakes up before it is too late and Hill-Bill gets the nominations. I for one do not want to hear for years again that Bill is making phone calls in the oval office and about all the dresses that will be soiled during these calls…..

Rima   January 21st, 2008 12:12 am ET

GO HILLARY!!! Some of you peole are so darn foolish. YOU are either sexist or so easilhy fooled by made up media and spin. It is too bad you cannot think for yourself. LET me ask you anti Hillary dummies a questions??? When was the last time we had a surplus in America's Money cauffers in the past 30 years??? When was the last time the stock market was up in the last 30 years??? When was the last time more jobs were created in the last 30 years??? When was the last time more people made money and the American dollar was strong in the last 30 years? When was the last time health care was affordable… Pushed Civil rights and created more minority based jobs and benefits…When was the last time the World respected us??? In case you uneducated mouthpieces didn't know the truthful answer, it was when BILL CLINTON was president. YOu can check these are undisputed facts. YES BILL CLINTON. Anyone who can remember and put aside hate and preconcieved prejudices will remember that we were a very flourishing country under BILL CLINTON…. For God's sake the biggest problem during his term was what her was doing itn the Oval Office with you know who.. I will take that any day over the deficit Bush has put us in, the world hatred Bush has put us in, the failing dollar Bush has created, the inflated gas prices with record profits for the oil industry BUSH has put us in, the enormous job loss and tax breaks for the very wealthy Bush has put us in, the loss of privacy and personal rights that Bush has engineered. Dare I say more. When BILL was president what were your complaints??? I was 18 nand making $12.00 per hour. Now, people who are 40 would be lucky to make $10.00 per hour.

Jose Card - Independent   January 21st, 2008 12:05 am ET

Hillary takes big donations from big corporations with one hand, while her other hand comforts you after your job has been shipped out by these global corporations.

She said she isn't going to be influenced by these 'good American' lobbyists working for these corporations, but we all know a dollar out has to bring back more than a dollar for any organizations for profits.

Why do these lobbyists and Chinese keep on giving the Clintons money?
Of course, you wouldn't be able to ask Chelsea as she isn't allowed to talk at 27.

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

Hey CNN moderators.

Good job of SPINNING all the posts 70% Obama.

HE IS STILL GOING TO LOSE.

Dwayne, Pa   January 20th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

I truly believe that, in the end, women will be sorry that Hillary Clinton was the first woman President.
I think it is great that a woman is a front runner for the highest position in the free world. But, unfortunately I do not believe that Hillary Clinton can unite this country. I don't believe that she will follow through on the promises that she is running on.
And I think in the end she will put a dark shadow on the title of First Woman President of the United States.

Sam   January 20th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

I just like reading these comments. They're so funny. And, they tell me more about what's happening than the journalists themselves.

Clinton supporters, if they bother to waste their time on these hateful sites, generally point to Obama's style over substance, lack of experience, arrogance, impatience, nothing particularly ugly. Except for the few oddball Muslim or pothead comments, Clinton supporters don't get really venomous.

Obama supporters on the other hand are overwhelmingly venomous. As an independent, I feel that these over zealous supporters, with all their hatred, are doing more to bring Obama down than the Clinton slime campaign itself.

Honestly, you sound like militant fundamentalists. Tone it down to bring yourselves and Obama some credibility to his message of 'unity'.

E Gollan   January 20th, 2008 11:34 pm ET

after reading all these comments I am disheartened by the name calling and hatred. MLK preached peace, love not hate. I notice most of the hatred comes from Obama supporters and if these are young people the future is in danger. Everyone has their favorite, hopefully by researching for the truth. I personally prefer Clinton but either one of the three Dem would do their best and be better than the party that has again put the country into debt. Just pray China doesn't call in their loans.

Michelle   January 20th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Like so many before me have already requested, I would love to see a legitimate enumeration of just what exactly comprises Senator Clinton's "35 years of experience" as well as a synopsis of what the Clintons have done to endear themselves to the African American community.

I was alive and well and paying attention during the Clinton years, but all I seem to have come away with from that time is that people were doing well economically. Beyond that, I just remember how sleazy and drama-filled those years were.

And look at the aftermath of those years–look where we are now. How long is it going to take to undo/fix the damage that has been done to this country and all it represents?

I honestly can't imagine one of the most divisive individuals in modern politics being able to get us back on track.

What am I missing? What's the fascination?

Sense   January 20th, 2008 11:19 pm ET

Re: Boom!!

Thank goodness for some good dose of Reality!!! You go…Boom…boom…

Andy-CA   January 20th, 2008 11:15 pm ET

All of you that say you will vote Republican if Hillary wins should just vote that way now.
Hilary will win in the end!!!!!

Hillary 2008!!!!!!!

Shocked!!!   January 20th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Just wanted to clarify - my thanks was to Mike (at 4:31) - who had the "2 very intelligent points.

Also, I should have included Roger in the smart group. We need more smart people making comments on here .

Just me   January 20th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

To those who think that Dems or Indies would vote Repub in the 2008 general if Hillary gets the Dem nom……you are WRONG if you think we are Repub plants.

WE ARE NOT! We do not believe in the Clintons and WILL NOT vote for them in 2008. WE ARE DEMS AND INDIES!!!!!

From The North   January 20th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Wake Up America ! There are more than two Candidates in the race…….
Obama said, Obama did, Clintons said, Clintons did……. The truth is…..
Obama and Clintons have said nothing and done nothing that wasn't said or done long before they became Candidates ! Between the two of them they couldn't come up with one original thought if the Saudi's Trillions were the grand prize!

You all really lucked out when you looked past Biden for two Glory Seekers who will never find their way to the promised land !

DUH JANEL!   January 20th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

I"t is good that Chelsea and Vernon went to church. . .but that th"ey went to a predominantly African-American church seems a bit political. "

HELLO - what do you call Nobama going to the place where MLK spoke years ago? Give me a break! This is ELECTION YEAR - every move, every word is absolutely political! Were you born yesterday? Do you think Obama sounding like he's leading a revival is just the way he is? NOOOOO, it's a political move to get even more African American votes.

You guys are something else. Criticize women who support Clinton "just because she's a woman" but African Americans who support Obama aren't just supporting him because he's black? Again, GIVE ME A BREAK!

Vote for Hillary Clinton if you want to get our country back.

Sunny Erickson   January 20th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

I am a Democrat!!!! I believe in the philosophy of the Democratic party. I cannot imagine voting for a repulblican in this day and age. Back in the day when the evangelical wing of the party did not have the ruling power, there were a few Repulicans I liked, such as Rockefella or Lindsey (liked, not vote for), but those personalities no longer exist in the party.

Those of you who are stating that if Hillary is the nominee you will become a republican is a joke. I do not believe for one minute that you ever intended to cast your vote for Obama or Clinton. If you can consider backing a group of people that believe that the answer to all of our problems is more tax cuts for the rich (trickle down..), privitization of social security, gay bashing (although so many of them seem to be personally in favor of the gay life experience), outlawing a women's right to choose, anti stem cell research, continuation of the war (for a 100 years per John McCain) you were NEVER A DEMOCRAT…

Any of the top three candidates are good, strong and viable. You may, as I do, prefer one over the other, but please vote your philosophy and do not betray the party!!!!

Just me   January 20th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

Women of America are the most racist group of people I have ever encountered. And I am a woman! You should be ashamed to vote for someone soley because she is a female.

Don't even pretend this is about issues, or about experience. It is about getting a woman in the White House.

Unbelievable!!!!!

kwame   January 20th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

HILLARY 08, 2012

Shocked!!!   January 20th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Juan Carlos (Vegas), Mike and Phil from Memphis, TN - thank you for being smart.

Connie - I guess CNN and the other bias news outlets have accomplished what they set out to do, fool some folks- can't you tell when you are being manipulated?

To: Now You want to Play Nice - the Clintons didn't "bring race into this" the media did, by deliberately twisting the words of both Pres. Clinton and Senator Clinton and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And to those who say Sen. Obama (or his surrogates) has not been negative - what about that ad in Las Vegas in spanish attacking Hillary - wasn't that negative, wasn't that pandering to the Latino voters? I can't believe you are all so bias/hateful against Senator Clinton that you all overlook that.

I like both Senators Clinton and Obama and if either one of them gets the nomination, I will vote for him or her, because I am a true democrat - no a fair weather one.

Jack   January 20th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Obama need to leave Bill Clinton along and come up with a plan for himself. Bill have all right to protect his wife.

gene   January 20th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

If these are Obama democrats they ought to be ashamed of themselves. When you read the comments. The Obama supporters are nasty, they do not discuss the issues. They rant and rave about about the Clinton family and race and everything else that has nothing to do with the issues. I am a life long liberal democrat . I am a world war two veteran . Will vote in the general election for whoever wins the nomination. Now to you jerks, who I suspect are republicans, why don't you spend a little time looking at some of those "Winners" that you have in your own primary.

Lee, York Pa   January 20th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

Hillary has stood tall and will do so in 08 and again in 2012
VERY proud to be 100% a CLINTON supportor…
SHE is what America needs
Go Hill Go

Danny Campbell   January 20th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Obama is clearly not ready to be president. First, he calls into question the Clintons' life-long record of supporting human rights (as the race heads to SC) — then he turns a blind eye to the Culinery Union's bigoted slander against Hillary (after criticizing Edwards for the same kind of ad in Iowa).

Those of you who continue to use the GOP's 'talking points' against the Clintons need to remember (and respect) our legal system. 70 million of our tax dollars were spent investigating the Clintons and for what? To learn about a stupid marital affair?

Hillary has proven herself to the American people OVER and OVER again. Nobody (in my opinion) is better positioned to win in '08 — and frankly, nobody is better qualified (on either side of the aisle). The GOP knows it — and so do many people that actually follow politics closely.

I do (however) hope that if she wins the nomination that Obama is her running mate…but again, he isn't ready for the Presidency.

Hillary Clinton Supporter from Florida   January 20th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

It just cracks me up to read some of the comments against Hillary Clinton. It cracks me up that people say Obama can work across party lines, when if you look at the records, Hillary Clinton has always worked across party lines in the Senate. She has worked with John McCAIN on several Bills in the Senate. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND DO A LITTLE RESEARCH BEFORE POSTING SUCH IGNORANT COMMENTS!!!! GO HILLARY!!!!

Dee   January 20th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Just to comment on Deanna Woodman's statement. I am an African-American or Black man, if you will, and am also well educated. I am in my mid-20's and am employed as a Financial Analyst. Just had to create the backdrop here. I, however, differ with you when it comes to the candidate whom I support. My support is fully behind the Senator from New York, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton! I do not base my support on race or gender, I do so on the candidate's proven track record, experience, ability, vision and service to this country. I do not base my support on hype, charisma, and eloquent speaking. America said it wanted a "CHANGE" in 2000 and we surely got it, didn't we? We got lies, deceit, lousy economy and a war that has caused hundreds of thousands of lives plus injuries. We wanted a simple man with charisma in 2000 and we got it. We can't afford to gamble with America's future, we can't afford to take a chance and hope that the next president will be ready to go shortly after taking office. We need someone who is ready on DAY ONE. We need someone with experience and the ability to make sensible change. We need someone with proven strength and leadership and the ability to make things happen. America needs HILLARY CLINTON to be its next President.

Hillary Clinton for President. She will be a great leader for us all- white, black, hispanic, rich, poor, men, woman, etc etc.

stop being blind   January 20th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

1) Church and power - government , religion should not influence the governance, , the politics
2) In this country are other people than African-American, it is whites, white women, hispanics, indians, asians, name it
3)country needs diplomat, experienced person
4) people do not see through their emotions and ignorance -read, get to know before you throw nastiness on someone
Hillary has the poise, the diplomatic poise, the experience, she is real, smart, knows how to

5) when I was learning computer programming, we were drilled to control our emotions, because when emotions take over, person is not able to think clearly, logically.

so, all those emotions out of range - in judging Clintons are not worth to even to listen to them.

So what that pres. Clinton does speeches for Hillary? He is good in it!. Michele can speak for her husband, but Clinton cannot for his wife? Double standard……..

Hillary yes!

Angela   January 20th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

When Obama goes to a white church is accused of pandering to get the white vote????

Maybe all these candidates and their church going is to get exposure to the people who live there and to get their votes. It just happens to be incidental that the congregation happens to be in a predominantly black community who are all potential voters.
Why does the media racially spin this thing. and why do people on this board say they are pandering?

Exposure is exposure.

That is what they are expected to do as candidates.!!

Enough with the racially charged pandering accusations!!!

Arleen Benson   January 20th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

No one can unite the Republican party - NO ONE! But Hillary can and will unite the Democratic party to get out and vote in November. MLK's dream didn't end in with the Voting Rights Act… even those of us who aren't 'people of color' continue to be discriminated against based on our sex, religion, and/or sexual preference.

The fact that Michelle Obama expects all blacks to vote for her husband because he's black and is the only one capable of fulfilling MLK's dream seems extremely racist to me. Obama gives a great speech. Perhaps he should inform Michelle of his desire to be 'a hopeful uniter' - continuing to stress the race thing is only going to unite those people who don't know or care who MLK was and what he stands for today and vote against Obama because he's black.

Ben   January 20th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

ya, we love Clintons and are good for this country…..

Mia, Stafford, VA   January 20th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Sunny - Barack did not say Reagan made positive change, he said he changed the trajectory - which he did, and he was able to do that because he won 49 STATES - 49 STATES that gave him a mandate that had not been had prior or since. That's not to say his policy or changes were good.

It just says the people were ready for change in a big way, and their votes indicated that!

John, IA   January 20th, 2008 8:42 pm ET

Karen , what a selfish figure you are. I am calling you a figure as calling you a person is disrespectful for people who value years of friendship and sacrifice. Dr. Martin Luther King taught me that humanity and my moral conviction is more important than my skin color. Bill and Hillary has done a lot for me and my family and my neighbors. And now when they need me, i should backstab them for what someone who is my skin color? What had Obama sacrificed for me?

Friendship and loyalty is stronger than skin color bonding. I guess you have no morals, Miss Karen P.

—–
Karen P January 20, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Hillary's suck-up antics make me just SICK! She won't even let Chelsea talk to kid reporters then sends her to church in South Carolina??? I just had to turn OFF the CNN broadcast of Hillary being backed by a church in Harlem…and how unbelievable it was. She just stood there blank-faced shaking her head while the pastor READS pages and pages and pages of how great Hillary is and her 30+ years of service to the community, etc. It sounded like HIllary wrote the speech for sure.

I HOPE Obama wins by a landslide! He will if the African American community has brains to think for themselves instead of the Clinton machine doing it for them and CONSTANTLY reminding the people of "favors", whatever that was and now it is Clinton's turn to GET the favors. Give me a break.

I am ashamed of the split African American community to preferring "friendship" over someone who is about to make Martin Luther King's Dream come true and show pride in what Obama has accomplished. All the blood and grief since the 50s and 60s and now the chance to have unity only to let it slip on by. Good grief…even whites vote Obama…he has the country pulling TOGETHER but 1/2 the U.S. population hates Hillary!

Georgia4Obama   January 20th, 2008 8:38 pm ET

Hilary Clinton "working" for African Americans. Let's see a proud Goldwater girl and Republican in 1964. Remember Goldwater who was against the Civil Rights Act.

Ask Lani Guiner about how the Clintons abandoned her when Republicans lied about her civil rights records and labelled her a "Quota Queen".

Ask Jocelyn Elders who was fired after the media took a statement completely out of context by not playing the previous 60 seconds of her response to a question.

Ask the millions of young African American males who were imprisoned for long stretches for crack cocaine possession while cocaine and crystal meth users do not receive anywhere close to the same mandatory sentences.

Ask the millions of displaced workers who lost their jobs after NAFTA was approved 61 to 39 with only 28 Democratic Senators voting yes. Working class blacks lost good paying manufacturing jobs.

The Clintons are not friends but exploiters of the Black Commmunity. If Obama tried to point out the truth the Clintons would turn it around and make their actions HIS fault. If Hilary is elected, I will vote but I will not cast a presidential vote.
The Clintons have a lot of apologizing to the Black community.

Brooke   January 20th, 2008 8:26 pm ET

Clearly, Hillary is the most experienced candidate and is more qualified. You can't tell me that after living in the White House for 8 years, Hillary doesn't have more experience than Obama and that she doesn't know what the job will demand of her. Although they are close on the issues, Hillary Clinton is more moderate than Barack Obama. What's more, not only does she have the experience, she has the strength, organization, and knowledge to DO the job.

To those of you who claim you'd rather not vote at all than vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination, YOU will be to blame when the next Republican president appoints a bunch of conservatives to the Supreme Court, who will then take away the rights, equalities, and freedoms we have worked so hard to get (Roe vs. Wade, etc.). If you think this isn't a possibility, you are fooling yourself.

If you're a Democrat, you should stand by the candidate who is going to represent our positions on the issues, regardless of whether it's Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or John Edwards.

To the person who said Hillary is Pro-war, newsflash: She voted in support of the war because that is what our country needed to do at that time. We were under attack. Are we to sit back and do nothing? Be serious.
What we need now is a plan to finish the job over there and bring the troops home, and that what Hillary is going to do. FINISH the job, although it may take a little while, and take care of our National Security.

To Mike, who wants to know how Hillary (a WOMAN) is going to handle sitting down with leaders of different countries like China, etc. as a WOMAN, I will tell you. Hillary, a FEMALE (gasp!), will do exactly what Margaret Thatcher (former British Prime Minister), Angela Merkel (current German Chancellor), Kim Campbell (former Canadian Prime Minister) and other female leaders have done for decades. She will sit down with them, not take any crap, and represent our nation proudly.

This woman is an extremely talented, brilliant, hardworking, committed attorney. She has been in public service since long before her husband was elected. She is the most qualified for the job. If she was a man, there wouldn't even be a question.

HILLARY '08

NextPresident   January 20th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

Hillbillary speaks of how she praises Dr Martin Luther King but on Monday January 21 2008, she decided not to pay respect to Dr King but rather send Bill to do her bidding. So I guess she has had enough of the black folks in Harlem and South Carolina. The hypocrisy of this witch and her impeached husband is just appauling and to through Chelsea in the mix just add insult to injury because Chelsea has not clue of what working class America looks like. Chelsea's facial features clearly display her uncomforts around blacks in large congregations in church. I guess that is why HillBillary will not be in Atlanta because Chelsea is not comfortable with other races.

Enough of this Clinton, Bush, CLinton, Bush criminal activity.

darrell   January 20th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

Hillary win the Nomination

GOP 08,

Hillary wins the nomination

GOP 2012

Same old experience, same results.

Her econ. stimulus f the mark.

Obama hit the mark with his short term plan.

Obama 08

Then we all can have a voice, not just the rich surrogates
Ha, Ha

Nando   January 20th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

If Hillary gets the Democratic Nomination I will become a Republican like my Father , He was a Reagan Democrat I never understood why he did until now, Becuase I see ithey put ther loyalties before whats best for Our NATION and that is NOT BILLARY, IF OBAMA is not the Nominee I will CHANGE my Registration and Become a Republican!!!!!!!!! I never want this disfunctional Family anywhere near Our WHITE HOUSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA 08,12

darrell   January 20th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Surrogates is a nice of describing them

Modern Pharisees - Deal makers sounds more fitting.

I love Church and I choose Obama,

sounds like Hillary wording for the Nevada Union workers.

Dems for Unions, Ha!

Obama 08

Teejay   January 20th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

Annie, you raised a very important question which H.Clinton's apologists are afraid to comment on. I would like to see her (HC) asked that "million dollar" question during next week debate in South Carolina .

Deanna Woodham   January 20th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

I am an educated (Masters degree), white female who will celebrate my 70th birthday this year. I have voted Democratic in every general election (voted for McCain in the 2000 Georgia primary) since 1964. I am an avid Barack Obama supporter, having made monetary contributions to his campaign. Apparently, I do not fit into the women's category who support Senator Clinton. The reason is that I consider Barack Obama the promise of positive change for our country. I am in awe of his intelligence, inspired by his message, impressed with his experience, and committed to work for his election. While it would be nice to see a woman president of the United States of America, I do not believe that Senator Clinton is best for our country. With the challenges our nation faces, we do not need the Clinton baggage or drama during these perilous times. I have been deeply saddened by what has happened to our country during the last seven years. As a deeply patriotic citizen, it appals me what the Clintons will do to return to the White House. I watched with dismay as former President Clinton demeaned Senator Barack Obama's campaign/vote on Iraq as a "fairy tale" and realized what a mean spirited person I supported during the 1992 and 1996 elections. I salute the Atlanta-Journal Newspaper for endorsing Senator Obama.

Robert Campbell   January 20th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

Experience is what cabinets are for. You appoint experienced people to the cabinet. In this way, continuity helps the executive branch deal with changing times.

Leadership, hope and credibility with the American people is what the presidency is for. You elect an open, candid, enthusiastic leader as president, a leader who Americans can respect and all the world can respect. That president motivates The United States of America to be all that it can be, and all that it was intended to be.

Please elect Barack Obama President of the United States.

PhilT   January 20th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

It is a game, a power game, to the Clintons. We are at an "extremely" important fork in the road for the future of our country. We can forge ahead together to a brighter future of hope and change, or stay divided by partisan politics by reverting to the Clintonian dynasty. It is our choice as voters. Not the choice of one who seems to think she is preordained and entitled because of her service to Bill.

Carole   January 20th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

A true democrat will not abandon the party. For all you complainers out there, we should be very proud of our slate of candidates for 2008. They are all committed to saving the middle class, making sure that everyone can get affordable health care, bringing our troops home from iraq,getting our education system on track ( no child left behind…what a joke!!), and strengthening our borders. Also taking on the corporations for outsourcing our American jobs.

Ask yourself if you have had enough of King George and his administration that has done nothing but bankrupt our country and made us lose our respectability in the world? Do you like the gas prices that are at record high levels? Before he took office a barrel of oil was around 27.00 ! Home foreclosures…how about that? What about the Katrina disaster and how it was handled? This list could go on and on.

But we as democrats need to unite behind our nominee no matter who the person is.

Some of you bloggers continue to make statements about a candidates sincerity,etc. etc. Who are you to make that judgement?

C'mon people…pay attention to the issues and compare what the Republicans will do for this country vs the Democrats. Be truthful to yourself and make your decision upon who you really think will be the best candidate to lead this country forward based on the candidate's positions….

I will be voting for a democrat no matter what!!! I am for Hillary because I have listened to her position on the issues and I feel she is highly qualified to turn this country around and move it forward once again. Should she not get the nomination, I will not hesitate to vote for the selected democrat nominee.

John Edwarss   January 20th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Hitlery must lose the elections, she is an evil person that lies and berates everyone that is against her and her husband. Obama is a good person, he must win.

Go Obama!!

Greg, Brattleboro, VT   January 20th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

THESE WORDS ARE NOT FROM ME, HOWEVER, I THINK THEY CAN ENLIGHTEN OUR MINDS.

" Dear Bill,

We loved Bill Clinton as president.

When you told us you didn't inhale, with that little twinkle in your eye, we believed you and loved you even more.

When you got more than just a twinkle in your eye and a cigar in the — well, we stuck by you. We rallied against the vast right wing conspiracy and ushered Newt and his fellow reptilians out of office.

Man, the 90s were fun - huh? The Macarena alone… But now we're in a new decade. Web 2.0, YouTube and camera phones; preemptive wars and terrorist attacks. It's a new era. And we've spent 8 years under the thumb of a royal son.

We're ready for change. We have some amazing Presidential Candidates. Edwards, Obama, and of course, the candidate like family to you - Clinton.

I know you want your wife to win. A lot of us want a Democrat in 2008. But you're getting mean Bill. That twinkle in your eye is starting to look more like crazy eye.

You're making accusations that Karl Rove & Co. will eat up and spit back out at us come time for the general election.

You're actually disenfranchising folks this time around, dividing the electorate at a time we need to come together.

And Bill, you're starting to make stuff up. And this time, we're noticing. It's a new era, Bill; everything you say is recorded and broadcast.

So what we're asking, Bill, is that you just shut up.

Just shut up.

Sincerely,

Pretty Much Everyone ".

Mike in Charleston   January 20th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

I lived in the DC area for about 13 years starting in 1994. I went to the Foundry United Methodist Church where Bill and Hillary Clinton attended on a regular basis. Bob and Elizabeth Dole were also regular attendees. Do you people really believe that just because the Clintons are Democrats they are somehow not religious people. Stop being such idiots.

DeVone   January 20th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

When Bill Clinton was the President of the United States of America that was
fine, I hope we are realy taking a close look at what we the American people
are about to do. Remember every one except Tony Blaire said we were
A Stupid nation for a second turm with Bush of course this is Clinton nto Bush
but old is old how will this regain respect for our nation? we keep doing the same thing

KimSC   January 20th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Hillary 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dee, Plano TX   January 20th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

-ABC-
-ABC-
-ANY BODY BUT CLINTON–
–OBAMA MUST NOT COMPROMISE HIS CREDIBILITY BY ACCEPTING THE VP SPOT SHOULD SHRILLARY WIN THE NOMINATION–
–HILLARY & BILL ARE THE BEST GIFT TO THE REPUBLICANS IN NOV 2008–
–MCCAIN WILL BE A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT(2008-2012)–
-I WOULD RATHER HAVE SHRILLARY LOSE IN NOV 2008 SO THAT AL GORE CAN RUN IN 2012 WITH OBAMA AS VP.
–HERE IS THE SHORLIST FOR 2012-
–FORMER VP. AL GORE-
-GOV. ED RANDELL(PA)
-GOV. BRIAN SCHWEITZER (MT)

J. McKinney SW MO   January 20th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

I can't believe the poor, confused people on here who are saying Obama is going to fix everything, he is most experienced, etc, etc. I have never heard him give any info on what he is going to change, and especially HOW he is going to get it done.

And I can't believe the people on here who say Hillary has no plan. She gives her plans, and how she will accomplish it, in all her speeches. She actually DOES have a plan, but more important, she has the experience and know-how to put that plan in place. We need Hillary. GO, HILLARY!!

Jon   January 20th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

I am so angry that the Obama camp is using the rece card, Hillary Clinton is not a racist and her ideas are not the oldgaurd, or slave mentality. Look at the people supporting her from our community— Maya Angelou for one. Does the younger part of our community even know who this woman is, and if they did do they think for one minute if she thought hillary was a racist she would be supporting her. For those of you who don't know Maya Angelou is one of Oprah's mentors, apparently Oprah didn't learn the lesson. Also Oprah Winfrey in my opinion is now a fraud and a racist- she promised in 2001 after she had Bush and Gore on her show, and it was widely viewed that she was easier on—Bush, and she felt the ramifications from that that she PROMISED NEVER TO INJECT HERESLF IN POLITICS AGAIN,

Christine, Overland Park, Kansas   January 20th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

i don't understand why chelsea clinton is campaigning. sen. clinton needs to stop having chelsea and bill campaigning for her. doesn't chelsea have anything better to do? doesn't she have her own life? or is she forever to remain in her parents' shadows? the fact that she can't even speak (as in give speeches and so forth) would be so embarrassing if i were in her position. she's like what, 30ish? she's not a child. it reminds me of those laura ingalls wilder books "little house on the prairie" that we had to read in elementary school. Ma would always say "children should be seen and not heard". sheesh.

i think it would reflect much better on sen. clinton if she let her daughter do her own thing. let chelsea be an independent woman who is a success in her own right. of course, since sen. clinton isn't exactly a self-made woman (as in she majorly piggybacked off of bill's success), perhaps she's just continuing the tradition. who knows. all i have to say is that as a young adult, i feel sad for chelsea that she doesn't get the opportunity to speak her mind. maybe the reason why obama has the support of many people my age is because he doesn't disregard the young voters and is willing to listen to us.

carlo   January 20th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

To rico: The sad part is what you are saying is probably true. Obama probably will not get the Latino vote, but it will the Latino's loss. Apparently, most of the mainstream has no idea how much Latinos and Asians hate African-Americans, but, as a black woman, I know. Hillary Clinton has more big business and lobbyist supporting her than any other candidate, so I'd sure love to see how she is going to push for a stop to illegal immigration when the corporate giants are getting rich off of their backs. You'll see if she wins, and if that happens, I will drive through the west with a bumper sticker in spanish that states, "don't blame me, I voted for Obama."

Carrie   January 20th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Just because I won't vote for Hillary Clinton, I am not a Republican Plant. I am tired of the Clinton's BS. I don't depend on the goverment for help. I make my own right choices to help my future. Bill Clinton did nothing for me. Bush did nothing either. I survived. I live in a good middle class family. Yes, I am happy. With Obama, I believe that he can unite this country. With Clinton, it will be the same old, same old: anger and fighting in DC.

Obama 08, 12, 16, 20

(Whenever the country wakes-up and realizies that Obama will make a fine president. Hopefully, we won't be in worse shape! )

Drake   January 20th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

I would vote for Collin Powell, in a heartbeat, for president, but not Obama! I am voting for HIllary and not Obama!
Give Hillary a shot! Hey maybe the Hillary/Collin ticket would be a winner…he would have to switch teams….
Go Hillary
We are pulling for you in Indy

Bern   January 20th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

DO THE DEMOCRATS KNOW BILL CLINTON SAID THE SAME THING ALMOST ABOUT RONALD REAGAN A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE?

CHECK IT OUT. TIM RUSSERT FROM "MEET THE PRESS" MENTIONED IT THIS AFTERNOON WHEN HE HAD HIS ROUND TABLE WITH PEGGY NOONAN, TOM BROKOW, DORIS KERNS GOODWIN, MEACHAM FROM NEWSWEEK.

PLEASE CHECK IT OUT. I HOPE OBAMA WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A BIG DEAL OF IT AND NOT LET THAT NASTY MAN LIE AND GET AWAY WITH IT.

JimT   January 20th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

What a hoot. All these posters who are shocked that the Clintons would do something political during a political campaign. And now that the article has been amended to say that Michelle Obama also went to church in Columbia, are they still shocked?

Karen P   January 20th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

Independent is just that…Independent. At 58, I have never fallen for "it must be one party or the other' or the "left, right" march. I read, watch, study all the candidates regardless of party. I follow both parties' debates and speeches equally. Right now Obama is tops…after that I'm still debating on the Republicans.

Really now, I wouldn't classify Bush as either party…he's just simply a fanatic who wants to be a dictator and doesn't work well with a two-party system. That's why nothing's been done these past few years in Congress. Bush compares to no one but himself…unique (to put it politely).

Hillary ccouldn't control Billy then, now, or in the White House in the future and both hate the 1st Amendment rights…so she's out for sure. Young voters wouldn't know about how embarrassing and corrupt the Clinton years were and how they loved having China as a supplier. They love the Wally World family. The Clintons played a big role in making sure our jobs went overseas. They are just as responsible as the Reagan's or Bush's of this world for the mess we're in.

me   January 20th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

v.cifaldi&paul…

I know it is extremely important which is why am campaigning AGAINST Hillary. I will take any person running on the Democratic side above her. If she is the nominee I WILL write in another candidate or vote Republican. Call it party abandonment or whatever you want. If she gets the vote, my party will have abandoned me because they can't see the truth right that is right in front of them. If she is nominated, the Republicans WILL win. She is divisive, dishonest and wishy-washy. I want someone who is a REAL person, not a hollow shell that is already bought and sold. Get real!

I can't understand why people don't see through her constant "morphing" for each demographic and her fake tears made me want to puke. Let me ask this…did she seek out African Americans, Latinos, or young people in her Iowa run? No she did not, because she didn't see the value in campaigning to them. But now that they have a voice, she is their "old best buddy". BS! She is a liar! Congress will not work together, foreign nations will not respect her and we will not have another woman in the White House for years.

Please do not do this to our party. I want a woman president to have a chance, but it is to be the RIGHT person or she will ruin it for the rest of the female population.

meryl   January 20th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

What's funny is that a lot of you have no idea what you are talking about. Ready for change in VA, Hillary is not the only candidate who left church early to hit the campaign trail; both Obama and Edwards did the same. And if you had paid attention and watched the whole speech, inner city case worker, you would have seen that Hillary was quoting another speech that would not have been as effective if she had simply stated. Please know all the facts before you go on a rant about Hillary. You seem to be blind when it comes to her, seeing as you believe anything the media twists while obama is left alone. Hillary is the only one who can lead this country! Hillary 08!!

Angela   January 20th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

I am fed up with everyone saying the clintons are in it for themselves, and they didn't help various issues, as president Bill Clinton had a republican house and senate to contend with(a fact that is all too conveniently forgotten) How about some credit for what Bill Clinton has accomplished since leaving office, you can see what issues are important to him… fundraising/US rep (along with Fmr Pres Bush) for victims of Hurricane Katrina, fundraising/US rep (along with Fmr pres bush) for the Tsunami victims, look at the William J Clinton foundations website as well as the clinton global initiative website - HIV/Aids, Health, public housing, climate change, vaccines, education - these are all issues that he is involved in. Try researching information before putting out some of the drivel i have been reading. You are voting for the leader of the world's only superpower - look at the issues instead of this childish name calling and posting unresearched comments.

Carole   January 20th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

GO HILLARY GO!!

HILLARY 2008

There is no other choice for Democrats.

The Clintons HAVE and STILL ARE friends of African Americans. Some of the most influential and better yet, just plain folks know it. All of you peeps that say different just have your heads in a hole!!

HILLARY WILL WIN THE NOMINATION!!!

HILLARY 2008

Chinnu   January 20th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

Hillary Is SMART , KNOWLEDGABLE about the COUNTRY and world problem.
She is HER OWN person NOT a EXTENTION of her husband .
T
The ONLYONE CAPABLE woman in 330 YEARS of this GREAT NATION who can be in the contest for presidency and WIN it too.

I will VOTE for her.

Chris in NM   January 20th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

The best ticket would be Clinton/Richardson.,,,,,,,,

Hillary will shine and push through and after Super Tuesday it will be known she is the woman with a plan and the nomination to make that work. I would vote REPUBLICAN if she didnt win the nomination, the other dem contenders are a joke. GO HILLARY….

v.cifaldi&paul   January 20th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

TO ALL OF YOU WHO KEEP SAYING "WHAT HAS HILLARY DONE?", AND "WHAT DID BILL CLINTON DO?"

MAYBE YOU SHOULD RESEARCH IN THE LIBRARY WHERE ALL OF THE FACTS AND OPINIONS HAVE BEEN VERIFIED AND VETTED….AND REMEMBER

"IT IS BETTER TO REMAIN SILENT AND THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT."

DO YOUR RESEARCH, PEOPLE.

GO HILLARY.

tobi   January 20th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Obama needs to campaign with the fervor he showed in Iowa. Oprah potentially will deliver the African American and Female votes as she did in Iowa and Obama should get a big bump from African Americans in South Carolina who do not want to be the state that affectively ends the run of the first realistic African American presidential candidate — just as women in Mass did not want to kill Hillary's campaign.

There are a lot of reasons Obama SHOULD win in South Carolina, but the facts are if he loses in SC, Hillary carries all of the momentum into Super Tuesday instead of most of the momentum. Aditionally, Obama pulls heavily from peop[e who don't normally vote. If they can't turn those people out — like they haven't been able to in the last 3 states, they will have a hard time winning. In otherwords it is again do or die time for the Obama camp.

Juanito, Washington, DC   January 20th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Vernon Jordan went to church? LOL….ok.

Pete   January 20th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Think………. economy… 90s…… did good during Clinton 90s….. deficit from big red to black
2008…………………… economy…….. history will repeat, ……

LQ Rochester MN   January 20th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

BTW KAREN P

Our forefathers said nothing about 2 terms for the president.

FDR served was elected 4 times; after that, the constitution was amended to specify 2 terms.

Simon   January 20th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

It seems the motivation to vote for the Clintons is out of obligation for past deeds…the motivation to vote for Obama is what he can do for the Country, not what is OWED to him. WHICH is better for America?

Kate from Il   January 20th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Hillary has my vote!

LQ Rochester MN   January 20th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Xlotus, you want me to vote for Hill just because she is a woman and Obama is just a guy?

PLEASE get yourself better informed before you vote. According to the experts, I should be voting for her because I am female, white and over 50. I USED to like her - she was a big reason why I voted for Bill in 1992. I really thought she would be an "unofficial" advisor to the president. But the more I see and hear from her, the less I like. And while I supported Bill even while he was getting impeached - which I thought was just a witch hunt from the holier-than-thou repubs - Bill is really getting on my nerves lately.

I would most likely caucus for Kucinich but he doesn't stand a chance. I will be supporting Obama. I really think Clinton is polarizing and am afraid she will not win if she is the nominee; however, I will vote for her if she is. Again, not because she is a woman, but because 4 more years of Repub rule scares me.

Tom Davie   January 20th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

I wonder if we posters think we are 'pandering' to independents on this board.

You know that people care so much about what we say in here to sway their vote (lol)

Yes, Reverend Butts endorsement of Hillary is the real deal. But there is ENORMOUS pressure to vote for Obama in the african american community.

Problem is that black folks can socially talk up a storm for Obama -sneak off and vote for Clinton - then come out and boast to the exit pollster that they voted for Obama. There is a real pressure to do so on a social basis.

Besides. No matter what hillary does, do you think the obama posters on here care? They will just spin it into a super negative.

I guess Reverend Butts endorsment is a 'bribe' or some other kind of BS right? It couldnt be what it reallly is. An endorsment.

Helena   January 20th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Why are people complaining that Bill Clinton and Chelsea Clinton are campaigning for Hilary? Spouses and children, uncles, aunts, all family members do campaign for their familly member running for office. Isn't Obama's wife campaigning for him? From what the press says, Obama's wife could not even pronounce the State of Nevada correctly. Do the African Americans not remember Obama and Tony Rezko allowing all of those African Americans in Illinois living in those God-awful apartments that they owned/controlled and not even turning the heat on in the coldest winter ever in Illinois. Pull up the Chicago-Sun Times and check it out. Obama is Rezko's guy and they only care about getting richer. Think very hard before you vote!

v.cifaldi&paul   January 20th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO SIT BACK, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, AND REALIZE ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT THIS IS NOT SOME KIND OF GAME. THIS IS REAL LIFE AND EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!

mishte   January 20th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

On January 20, 2008 3:34 pm ET, Rico wrote:

"Obama is running scared.
Nevada is the carbon copy for the rest of the west.
He needs the Latino vote plain and simple guess what he aint going get it."
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Really? Why?

Anonymous   January 20th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

On January 20, 2008 3:34 pm ET, Rico wrote:

"Obama is running scared.
Nevada is the carbon copy for the rest of the west.
He needs the Latino vote plain and simple guess what he aint going get it."
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Really? Why?

Michael   January 20th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Let's stop talking about Hillary and start talking about Bill because that is who Barack is really running against. Bill clinton is going to remind America about all of the scandals that his family was involved with during his time in the White House. If Bill Clinton can lie to the face of every American citizen before, he is very capable of during again and again and again and……

docrock,lewisville,tx   January 20th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Thank you Amy/Kazoo.I was beginning to think that English was the "second language "on this page.Jeez people,vote or get off the pot.If you can't vote,shut up!!

nikki   January 20th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

HILLARY GET A BACKBONE PLEASE!!!!!! WHAT REALLY BOTHERS ME ABOUT HILLARY IS THE FACT THAT THEIR CAMPAIGN PUTS OUT ALL OF THESE SNEAKY RACE CARD ISSUES LIKE THE WHOLE BOB JOHNSON ISSUE, THE WHOLE FAIRY TAIL ISSUSE SO ON AND SO FORTH, BUT WHEN IT IS TIME TO FACE THE MUSIC SHE ALWAYS HAS BILL COMING OUT DOING THE DIRTY WORK FOR HER!!!!! ISN'T IT YOUR JOB MRS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO HAVE ANSWERS AS TO WHY YOUR CAMPAIGN WOULD THROW SUCH LOW BLOWS! BILL IS NOT A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT YOU ARE SO AS I SAID PLEASE GET A BACKBONE AND IF YOU CANT STAND THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!!!!!!

teddy orlando fl   January 20th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

WAKE UP !!!! school daze a spike lee production

jj   January 20th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

ANYONE BUT HILLIARY CLINTON FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!!!! IF SHE GETS IT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HER!!!!

As a woman I will not vote for her just because she is a woman, as a black woman I will not vote for Obama just because he is black BUT;

Hilliary Clinton is running her campaign on her 35 years of experience. It is that very experience that has turned me off from her. What is this great legacy of experience that she speaks of. What has she done for this country that is worthy of the American people electing her into the office of President of these United States.

I am totally turned off with the way she goes about getting her point across to the American people. She steps on and over people to make her issues known. She has no tact in dealing with people. I mean its great to know the policies and issues affecting this country, but if you cannot express yourself in a way that will make one WANT to hear what you have to say then the battle is over before it begins. She seems to think that she can bully her way into the hearts and minds of the American people, but what will happen in Congress, Will she be able to get anything accomplished with that overly aggressive stance she takes. I don't think so. To me she is just not Presidential enough. She is highly intelligent, I cannot deny that, but it takes the total package to get things done in Washington. Remember checks and balances in our government. The President accomplishes little without the help of Congress and so forth.

I will never vote for her, I am convinced from her EXPERIENCE that she lacks the total package to bring about REAL CHANGE in this country. I for one am sick of a lot of talk and nothing getting done.

Annie   January 20th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

If Hillary was so moved after hearing Martin Luther King, Jr. speak when she was a teenager, then why did she become a Republican,and a Goldwater Girl?

PhilT   January 20th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Recent research has uncovered a new illness being diagnosed as "Clintonitis".
It is characterized as "an avoidance of the truth in matters relating to the Clintons",
or in it's advanced state as "a complete denial of anything negative about Hillary."
I thought well informed voters would be able to see through a Clinton campaign that has degenerated into one of the most
deceitful, disingenuous and despicable political campaigns I have ever seen. One recent example of this is the reference by
Clinton supporter BET founder Bob Johnston to Senator Obama's behavior and actions as a young man.
As a matter of record, when asked what Senator Clinton thought of a surrogate making a drug reference regarding Obama
at one of her campaign events, Clinton Spokesman Jay Carson said “I don’t think that’s what he (Johnston) was referring to".
A display by Carson of the advanced state of Clintonitis, complete denial.
Mrs. Clinton gave no acknowledgement to the true inference by Johnston and made no apology for Mr. Johnston's remarks
until days later when Johnston finally acknowledged the true intent and meaning of his remarks and apologized to Senator Obama.
A display by Hillary and Johnston of the milder form of Clintonitis, avoidance of the truth.

The Clintons' tactics are turning the Democratic primary campaign into the type of partisan campaigning once reserved for inter-party
politics by the likes of Karl Rove. Perhaps this is what Hillary's "35 years of experience" brings to the political discourse in this country.
If so, it is a pathetic display of what I, and hopefully many others, want a "change" from.

lets talk about sex   January 20th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Christine Says:

AND I want to see that glass ceiling shattered into millions of pieces. I want to feel society's strangulating expectations of women start to dissolve.

We raise our daughters to believe they can do or be anything. Let's prove it isn't just lip service.

After White men, White women have more opportunities than anyone, so save that crap. Look at any fourtune 500 companies, how many black, brown, or asain people(of any sex ) do you see in any leadership roles? Hardly any. How many white women? More than any minorties. If they have to promote a "minority" it is now a white woman. I just saying, if you want to play the sexist card.

Robert Bell   January 20th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

"HILLARY IS GAINING GROUND BECAUSE HER MESSAGE IS HONEST AND SHE HAS NOT CHANGED IT SINCE THE START!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM THRILLED FOR HER IT GIVES ME HOPE THAT SOON WE WILL GET OUR ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK AND BRING OUR PEOPLE HOME FROM IRAC ETC. CONGRATS HILLARY!!!!! HILLARY CLINTON 08″

OK, I see you found the exclamation point key. Good for you!

The CAP LOCK key is above your shift key. You might want to try that as well.

Iraq is spelled with a "Q" not a "C" - and the two keys are not even near each other on the keyboard.

As for Hillary's "honesty", ask her about her dealings as a commodities trader.

As for her "not changing her message since the start" ask her why she was against ethanol in gasoline until she campaigned in corn-rich Iowa. She changes opinions with the weather - and with the polls.

As for fixing the economy, most economists agree her proposal to freeze interest rates for five years (Soviet Style) would wreck our economy.

She still believes the Communist theory of the command economy. We tried wage and price controls under Nixon (and under the New Deal) and both times it didn't work.

FWIW. Hillary supporters scare me. Victims of "no child left behind" apparently.

Karen P   January 20th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

As an Independent…if Obama doesn't win the primary and Hillary gets it….yes, I WILL vote Republican. Obama is the only really good candidate who can work with both parties…even Republicans have praised Obama, but with a Hillary ticket, I would have to vote Republican. Any Republican is less corrupt than the Clintons

AZdemocrat   January 20th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Charolotte says:

" We can not wait for someone to figure out, there isn't a pea under any of the three walnut shells. We need someone who can hit the ground running, knows how to play dodge ball, knows it isn't going to be a cake walk, knows it will be an uphill battle and has the intestinal fortitude to get it done. That is Hillary Clinton!"

Talk about intestines - I much prefer someone, woman or man, with great heart!
And it has been DISheartening to see where the Hil and Bill went with the game after they lost the Iowa caucuses. They resorted to the worst tactics. I can agree that the Clinton's certainly do have it all figured out and they do know how play the game, maybe even better than the Rove Team can. So go ahead, vote for Clinton and you get more of the same old same old and nothing will ever change……the same cynical games with the same nasty tactics. "Intestinal fortitude to get it done" Sure, but I don't have the stomach for any more of THAT you know what…..I DON'T want Obama to play their game, even now after he has figured out their cynical rules and strategies.

We need to be finally finished with the Clintons and their ultra-cynical and ultra-narcissistic game playing. We NEED Obama as our leader who will change the game and the trajectory. I pray for Obama to win the dems nomination, and I challenge all of America to rise up and show the world that in America "Yes, we can" renew our commitment to the ideals that encourage us all to work hard for a better country and a better world. God knows we so desperately need someone who can inspire us be courageous and take action once.

Mart from Chicago   January 20th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

WOW, Chelsea goes to a black church and you all say its for politic gain… well of course it is…. why do you think Obama goes to church too nowadays?? To look for God?? You guys are fools to think Obama goes to churhes after churches and talk on the pulpit to give sermon and talk about the word of God… And just because its a black church, doesn't change the fact that all these politicians (including your precious Obama) are going there to look for votes. And btw, its not okay for white people to go to black churches now, even if its only once?!?

to AJ, IL, where have you been?? Hillary's camp has been the ones who are negative towards Obama all the time?? you are kidding me right??? And I got a question for you, if Hillary attached some resume of her going to churches and bring some of her fellow churchgoers to testify for her, that would make her better?? I can put my bet your answer is no since you already think Obama is a saint for goin to church… I am a church goer myself, and today's sermon was about, being a christian is not when you are around a lot of people and act good… but it is when you are alone at home with God… So don't judge Hillary just cause she doesnt give resume of where she goes to church or bring in people from churches to testify how kind and saint-like is herself… This is politics and got nothing to do with being Christians or not, or who goes to church or not… for all I know, church goers are not perfect and have done sinful things as well, coz i know i do sometimes…

Phil Memphis, TN   January 20th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

So some on here claim they are democrats or independents, but would vote for another Republican before Clinton? Then you are not left leaning, or if you are, you are willing to cut off your nose to spite your face.

You are willing to continue to watch our young men die in a war a criminal Republican administration lied us into, continue to see our financial stability squandered, continue to allow the government to ignore the constitution, allow them to continue to widen their tracking and spying on american citizens; all because you have this deep-seated hatred of Hillary.. for what?

If you are a democrat or independent I'm a right wing religious zealot.

I don;t think there are many Dems out there who really think that way. you guys must be Republican plants.

kalliope   January 20th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

With so many women in the world, isn't there one whose name isn't CLINTON who would be qualified? Yes of course, but apparently not in 2008, not in this election. To suggest Carmella that I follow her because her genetic makeup is like mine is an insult to my gender and most of all to my country. How in the world could she unders