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I don't think that there were any surprises on Super Tuesday. I think that we can be very happy that we have Clinton and Obama to represent the Democratic party. The difference is, however....Clinton is good and Obama is great! Let's hope that he has enough time to allow people to get to know him. Once you have read his books and learned about his rich life experiences and then listened to his heart-felt speeches, you will come to realize that this could be the most inspiring presidental candidate that we have ever had. And, for those Democrats who like Clinton, please understand, I like Clinton too. But she can not beat the Republicans. She is strongly disliked by those who may swing over to the democratic side, if the candidate were Obama. Let's vote with common sense.

yeah... to the Hillary basher below saying that her husband is going to bang someone in her bed. What does that have to do with Politics? Much less running an entire nation! Glad to see you value the "issues"

How about mentioning how well Ron Paul did in Nevada. Your network has written him off. Not fair. Rudy has not done as well as Ron Paul in the primaries, yet he is everywhere. Not fair reporting.

To "Tom"

I was just a teenager when B. Clinton was in office, but even I can remember that it was a wonderful time in our nation's history until the conservatives managed to marshal their forces and prosecute their witch-hunt over something as stupid as the president's sex life. Bill did a heck of a good job running this country, and his sex life had no bearing on his ability to continue doing his job. If that's truly all you can remember about his presidency, please go back to watching Paris Hilton on E! and let the intelligent people decide who runs our country.

Enough with all of you calling CNN biased. Nevada is technically a win for Clinton because she won the most county convention delegates, and that is what determines the official winner. The DNC delegate estimate is just that, an ESTIMATE. Those numbers can change, and Clinton might end up with the win there too. So Obama has no official basis on which to declare victory in NV.

Obama only did as well as he did because the sparsely populated rural areas are weighted so heavily, which I have never understood. I'm all for protecting the rights of the minority, but those people are not the minority. They are 90% middle-aged, white and conservative. What is the point of a democratic republic if the voice of the majority doesn't carry more weight? Statistically, the big cities are home to the young, well-educated, open-minded, tolerant individuals in our society. And they're voting for Clinton. That should speak volumes to all you Obama supporters. And who lives in those rural areas? People like my parents...under-educated, uninformed, stuck-in-the-mud republicans. And they're siding with Obama? Is that really who you want deciding your future???

anyone know that we dont need another Bush, we need a real experience person to run our country, also we need a good politician, so I believe that Clinton and Edwards need to team up, helping our country.

Go Hillary…..
I for one miss the 90's.. and my house making me money.. Im sure America will wake up before Feb 5th and do whats right… She will Break the ceiling for all American's to run in 2016

DEM123
You are indeed an idiot. This was not an awful defeat for Obama. At worst it is a tie. All of you saying that Obama lost are just rabid Hillraisers. I wish we could get to super Tuesday sooner. I can't wait to vote for Obama. I never ever want to see another Clinton stinking up my White House. If she is the candidate I will vote against her and her lying cheating husband. She is a fraud with her 35 years of experience. The only thing she ever did was health care under her husband. We all know how that turned out. She is so divisive that she can't even a small thing accomplished that everyone wanted. She (they) will divide this country for at least 4 years.
White female 58 votes for Obama.

Makes you wonder what Clinton is promising to those super delegates to have that many locked up so early?

I think when we get down to the final 2 rep v dem a lot of people are going to see the reality of what Obama can offer and especially an Obama / Edwards Ticket. I can't see McCain being a real threat to them.

Sen. Obama and Sen. Edwards believe in transparent and accountable government by the people, of the people & for the people! Forgetting the politics of delegates, super-delegates and the process that elects unpopular Presidents and shuns the popular ones. America needs transparency and accountability especially when it comes to election time.

What I don't think they believe in is corruption and censorship to cover up the corruption. The last 8 years has been cover up after cover up, mis-use after mis-use and in my opinion the Clinton's are not the poster children for transparent and accountable government. They totally smeared the White House with corruption that still lingers today like an old fart.

From the sounds of the Clinton supporters, none of them must have been born when they were in the White House! It's either that or they're republicans in disguise, knowing darn well that Hillary will get creamed by the republicans come national election time.

I've opted to label myself as an independent and I must say that if Hillary is chosen to lead the Democrats in the national election, I will vote Republican or not at all!

God Bless the WORLD!

Go Obama!!!

CONGRATULATIONS, Obama! Keep up the great campaigning and the wins!!!

There is so much confusion with the caucus system that we the people can not even tell when we have been denied our right to vote. Such ignorance is what the system thrives on. Hillary won the people's vote even though the caucus system was cleverly and unfairly set up to give an advantage to Obama. Hopefully the people will rally behind the person getting the short end of the stick- especially by the media which is supposed to be unbiased. Go Hillary!

Obama/Edwards is the one who started the attachs on the Clinton's. Why is Obama crying the blues about Bill Clinton? He need to think twice and speak once. He had Oprah out on the trail and various other VIP'S. The Clinton did not make any noise about said comments. I hope Bill continue to support his wife.

I guess CNN censors this board because they deleted my last comment. Real democratic! Anyways, I've seen a Regan/Bush, Bush/Quayle, Clinton/Gore, Bush/Cheney presidencies in my lifetime and I am sick of it! GET THE BUSHES OUT, GET THE CLINTONS OUT!!! This is supposed to be a DEMOCRACY not shared ruling families! CLINTON NEEDS TO GO!

Clinton still has WAY more delegates to the convention. With the pledged superdelegates she has almost 100 more delegates than Obama.

Yes, what happened to my comment

To whom it may concern. What dose it take to get a coment posted? Every time I submit one it never posted. Please respond.

Hillary won the populous vote; Obama won 13-12 in delegates. These are the same silly calculations that happens with caucues. That is why primaries are the best way to go It is amazing that a person can lose the vote, but, win in delegates. Sounds like Gore vs Bush in 2000. Yet, when you do include the superdelegates (there are 900 approximately in total), Hillary is in the lead, almost 2 to 1. Plus, there are very few states left that hold caucuses and most of the other states will be primaries. I see Hillary winning just about all other states with the exception of South Carolina and Illinois. It is my hope that she will win those two states as well.

Obama's chant of 'hope'; 'change'; 'yes, we can; and 'fired up' is starting to wear thin and people are starting to ask: 'Where's the beef'? He is not ready to handle the pressures of the Presidency when America has so many issues in the economy.

Those here who are saying that CNN loves Obama just cause me to scratch my head in confusion.

How then, are they declaring Hillary had a "big win" in huge blaring headlines (you know, the things most people here look at) when she didn't win the state? Same goes for the ties in NH and MI. I look at the site and see pro-obama (true) statements relegated to tiny articles hidden in the site and misleading propogandic pro-Clinton statements as headlines on the front page!

If you think she *did* win the state, I can only think you're happy with President Gore's 2000 victory.

I am still confused. Who is running for president. It looks very much like Bill. The only thing that I really recall about his time in office is him sitting there saying "I did not have sex with that woman". If that is the family that we are trying to put in the white house I have just become a republican.

wow ingo did you at least read the article? In fact I can recommend a few books that will help you understand why the popular vote does not official elect someone, but rather plays in as a key factor.

Remember this is not an electoral college system. This system is a democratic designed, owned, and operated. Just as the republicans have their own presidential selection process.

In case you missed it, Ron Paul came in 2nd in Nevada.

The popular vote was not counted, that is a FACT!

Yet CNN claims that they know who won it....

What else can you say ?

Obama won't be president or vice-president. He doesn't have the strength, experience, or common sense to be a heart-beat away from the presidency. I believe Hillary will pick someone like Biden, a man of great character, experience, and wisdom.

One thing I learnt in life. Those who are good at gab are normally not good at actions and keeping those words.

A lot of people may feel offended but it is easy to say "I have a dream" than actually converting that into a reality.

A number of politicians have said so nice things and when the vulnerable masses vote them to power, they act just opposite of what they promised. Autocratic, whimsical and utter failure in keeping even the basic tenets of democracy.

people from certain culture and background are still evolving to true democracy and working for the masses and creating a family name and a name for themselves. Most of these nations are still clannish and tribal thinking and vote on those lines. They react and act on pulse and moribund – frog in the well mentality – come out of the well and see the world with bigger horizon and vote for the right candidate and not with "empty promises".

very few great leaders who really worked for the masses, rest used the masses, their frustrations, and mismanagement to carve out a name for themselves with no real convern for their well-being.

I also have a dream to be in white house and milk the cow and in the process if something good comes out for the masses well and good, otherwise I still add my name to the list of presidents of the america, and a few coins in my pocket...

Thanks to Joelene from Reno for your input and honesty! Very Interesting!

Also, well said 'RAFi68' and 'please'!

For me all of this just exposes that we do not have a truely democratic system of voting and that our system is able to be corrupted and subject to election fraud! It happened in 2004!

I am Republican, but I do not not always vote in my party just because it is 'my party'. If I like another candidate in another party then I will vote for who I feel is the best person for the job! For me the Republican party has respectable people that I like, some respectable I do not like, and some nonrespectable people, but still none who are right for the job of president, .....except Ron Paul, who does not look likely to get nominated.

I feel McCain will get the Republican nomination, and as much as I respect him, I would never vote for him as President. As much as I like Huckabee and think his tax plan is genius, but I would never vote for him as president. I think Romney is a very smart business man, but would never vote for him as president. So these are the only 4 Republican candidates I like or at least respect, but feel none of them are qualified for the job of president.

I feel the Republicans (and some other democrats in the Congress & Senate) want Obama to win simply because if the democratic party wins the presidential election, then Obama will easily be whipped by Congress, so of course if the democrats win the presidential election, they would prefer to have Obama as the president (whipping boy)!

Sorry to offend any Obama supporters, because even if he is a respectable person, I would never vote for him as president! He is very green and not experienced enough for such an office. He is irresponsible about voting, missing 254 votes while only 3 years a senator. Hillary has missed 143 votes in 7 years, (a senator more than twice as long as Obama). So how can I belive he will be responsible as a president? Also Obamas voting record is 97% of the time with his party, when he does vote, and Hillary votes outside of her party more, although not much, 94%, and 35% of the time there is bipartism agreement between Democrat and Republicans. Hillary has often voted against both parties when there is bipartisan agreement on an issue, especially on controversial issues, and she is not afraid to stand up to the president or Mr. Cheney! She has led the way and written personal letters to both confronting them and demanding answers on issues reagarding Iraq, the lavish government spending going on over there, and no bid contracts awarded for the spending. I respect her for this, and for the fact that she said she voted for the use of military force in Iraq, and now accepts she made a mistake. I also used to agree with it, but now vehemently do not! It is easy for Obama to say he was always against the war when he was not even a senator to vote on the topic, now speaking with with 20/20 hindsight! Since he is a senator he has always voted for the war! So Bill Clinton is right to say he is living a fairy tale on this topic!

So I do not know which party I will end up voting in the presidential election, but my first choice for president would be Ron Paul, then Hillary, then Edwards, then Huckabee. There are certain choices I dread to have to make, like a choice between Obama/Guiliani..... Obama/McCain....... or the thing I fear the most is a McCain/Guiliani ticket, the absolute worst nightmare that could ever happen! A dream ticket would be Hillary/Paul, but not likely to happen. (I don't know if a democrat can chose a republican running mate or vice versa? Anyone know if it is allowed?)

So I decide to vote for the candidate of my choice in the primaries, as I too have calculated voting one way or another just so a certain candidate does not get a vote, but it is not worth all of the calculating, it and in the end I think anyone is better than what we have now, except Obama or Guiliani. If it came down to these 2, I would rather see Bush/Cheney stay in office and experience the satisfaction of seeing them impeached and charged for war crimes in The Hague!

I feel so passionately and speak sure of myself because I have done my homework, and I encourage all women not to vote for Hillary just because she is woman and all African American Americans not to vote for Obama just because he is African American! I feel this is driving the minds and mentality of many voters in America, so I really encourage people to do their homework and decide who is best for the job as president.

Thanks again Joelene from Reno!

There should be one debate, with one vote all on the same day. That the News Media gets the chance to choose our candidates with all of their negative, irresponsible, inaccurate, prejudicial, racist, mysogenistic tactics should be criminal!

I wonder if Obama is a republican shill??

I think it happedened in Fla when a relatively new politcal face Bill Mcbride came out of nowhere to knock Janet Reno (who was heavily favored to win against Jeb Bush) out of the race so he would ultimately loose (as predicted) to give Jeb Bush a second term in office.
There was speculation that he was propped up and supported against Reno so Jeb wouldn't have to face her in the final vote.
Fast forward...
Out of all the Democratic candidates, Hillary is the most feared by the Republcians (no offense Mr. Edwards) – for a number of different reasons aside from simply loosing to her in November.
Just a thought.

The media is demonizing Hillary. Now that she won again they say, "oh but Obama got more delegates," Excuse me, if you compare the number of delgates Hillary has now in several states, he's way ahead of Obama. Why can't people and the media just get it, Hillary won big time. Iowa's caucus is passe. It is now irrelevant and all you rationalizations are wrong. All you pundits and Hillary-haters, you are just incompetent and envious of her.You can't just take it that a woman is going to rule and govern you. Hillary is going to win the presidency whether you like it or not. HILLARY '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And also, Go NY Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe the winner to the white house will be Clinton and Kennedy because both will do the best job for low income, low job and end the war. We lost lot of good men during the war so it is time to put clinton and Kennedy into 2008 for 8 yrs and will have the best president and vice president than before maybe kennedy is too old but he is spotless smart at his age along with two clinton so vote clinton and who ever she choose for vice president

No, Annie, it should read:

Hillary won New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and Nevada
Obama won Iowa.

A win is a win. They each clearly won those states. Delegates are another matter.

Face it, right now Hillary leads Obama in states won and total delegates (210 to 123).

I am an independant (vote for the best candidate person), but I can tell you that the Democrats have it ALL wrong this election year if they don't nominate Edwards. I would think they would want this to be a fair fight, which sadly even in this day and age, still means you need to pit white male against white male.

Put Hillary against Romney or McCain, and you have the perception of a crying, whining litle girl with a surrupticious past and an obviously politically motivated farce of a marriage vs. the perception of tried and true, clean cut, All-American boys with armed forces service records and much more significant political experience.

Put Obama against Romeny or McCain, and you have, let's be honest, a black muslim vs. white christians. I think too many independants/undecideds are going to get Farrakhan/Malcom X vibes come election time and it's going to scare them. I personally think race doesn't matter; I would have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat. It's not the "black" that will scare people, it's the "black + the muslim" that's going to scare people.

Now, put Edwards against McCain or Romney, and you have a fair fight. White vs. white, male vs. male, significant political experience vs. significant political experience. And I would even think some independants/undecideds might give the sympathy vote to Edwards becuase he is perservering through this race despite his wife's terminal illness.

In a nutshell, even if the country is sick of Bush, they aren't going to be so sick of him that they are going to let go of the ledge and compeletely shift an ingrained political paradigm of voting for white males. Edwards is the Democrat's best chance at a real race.

And of course, David "Spinster" Axelrod was all over the Sunday morning news programs proclaiming an Obama win in Nevada. What a loser... how desperate does the Obama campaign have to be to defy the very logic, the very truth, that Clinton won a popular vote in Nevada, that she won a majority of the county delegates, and that she won the caucus itself? Period. End of story. There is no subtext here. And if there is, it should read: "Obama Lost in Nevada".

GO HILLARY!!!! HILL-'08–YEAH-YOU GO GIRL!!!

You fools who read made up libelous sites about HILLARY CLINTON prove that not everyone should have the right to vote. How can you be such morons when serious balck activists from the CIVIL RIGHTS movement as well as during BILL CLINTON's termsn clearly remember how hard they both worked for CIVIL RIGHTS. Don't you know that anyone can make a phoney web site and write whatever nonsense they want so that they can trick the gullible fools that read it and believe it. Learn how to research. If you were my student, you would get a big fat F.

Obama is a sore looser as he left NEVADA before the votes were even tallied. Even he know it was over!!!

Why are so many black people turning this into a race thing??? Please don't insult me by saying the Clintons did it first. No they did not. I know how to watch a tennis game and see where the ball goes and where it started from Barack Obama (God forbid you mention his true middle name), first started this when he compared himself to MLK so that he can sway all the Black voters to his side. Everyone knows that if he can get others to think he is like MLK, he will pick up huge black support. Come on, all HILLARY did is try to deflate this impact and call a spade a spade. HILLARY discussed how MLK was on the front lines not just talking but acting. He was there in the middle of all the attacks and assaults. HILLARY also addressed that all the efforts that MLK was hoping for needed to be and in fact did come to fruition based on the right president that fought to make it happen-LBJ. Even JFK couldn't make it happen, but LBJ did. So that's all it was. But it all started with a deliberate attempt to place race into this by OBAMA invoking the name of MLK and making himself on the same plane. GO HILLARY and those of you who are racist (and you can be a balck racist just as much as a white one) please leave race out of this. The fact that so many blacks want to vote for OBAMA now show that race is sadly what it is all about.

Constantly flogging Hillary?!??!! What?? They ask her softball questions,
never make her explain anything, and seldom ask the tough questions like:
What was she doing to protect the citizens when 09-11-01 occurred?
How can she be so critical of Bush when her husband did some of the
exact same things? (only without any dignity)
What exactly is this 35 years of experience she keeps touting?
Why won't they release the documents from the Clinton library?
(It is the one that is shaped like a big trailer...fittingly)
How come so many of their croneys ended up under indictment?
What really happened to Vince Foster?
What is her connection to Jim Gaston?
Why does she cackle when she can't answer a question honestly?

Clinton is un-electable in the General Election. Independentsa won't vote for her , and Dems will cross over to keep her out of the White House...........WHY ?

Because she is like Bush on Steriods , very dishonest and divides the country before she even has the job.

Obama is really the only hope the Dems have of going all the way , and the sooner Edwards gets out of the way , the closer Obama's chances becomes a reality.

If they don't know who really won more delegates in Nevada until April, then why is the ridiculously biased media saying Obama won 13 and Hillary 12??? Buch of crap. call it a draw if you do not know. They make me so sick!!!

Ron

Hill/ Obama ticket is not happening.

Obama has a whole slate of experienced possible VPs

A long battle like this (delegate are the focus)

Obama 08

it is clear, his meassage of hope is tied to the Hopes of most americans.

Change = Obama

or Same old Experience = Hillary

Modern Day Pharisees = the new young are not easily passified.

Young people vission is for Change

older youthful thinkers, know the past and knew the unemployment rate did not go down many black communites. Where was the healthcare safety net.

Debbie from WI...

The fact is "NO Delegates have been awarded." Delegates have been pledged but not awarded, not even the Super-Delagates. These pledges can change before the convention and in Caucus States most often do before the National Convention. Obama has no guarentee of getting more delegates than Clinton and most likely will not after the state reconciles it delegates in April. This was clearly stated by the head of the DNC for Nevada in interviews with all the major media stations.

Why does the media want obama to win? If he got the nomination, he would loose and we would have more Republican years ahead. obama will bring change because he has no idea what to do. HILLARY BRINGS CHANGE AND EXPERIENCE.

Yet another example of how patently ridiculous the caucus system is in any state. I'm a Democrat. We cried, "one person, one vote, equally weighted" after the 2000 debacle, yet we allow this kind of nonsense to continue in our own party.

Pinga,

Superdelgates are like the supreme court. They REALLY decide who the president is. For example, in 2000 Gore won the popular vote, like Obama....he has more delegates that represent the VOTERS. While, Hillary Clinton has more superdelagtes, who represent no one but themselves and have the right to vote for a candidate. They make up about 20% of the vote. The thing is, Hillary Clinton has alot of ties to Washington, so she quite naturally has more SUPERDELEGATES. But Obama, has more delegates. So, Hillary can still win even though the people don't vote her as their nominee. Her friends may just do that. Like, Jennifer Granholm of Michigan who supports Clinton even though the people of Michigan were disenfranchised and Hillary refused to take her name off the ballot. Funny how politics work.

I personally think that CNN needs to not keep going for Odama. Everything that CNN broadcasters have to say is Possitive about Odama and negative about Hillary Clinton, Stop Hating on her, she is going to be the perfect President that the American People need., and its catching the eye of the American People. CNN is always putting Hillary Clinton in a Negative Spot and I dont think thats right, CNN is Brain Washing the American People by always talking negative about Hillary Clinton, just so CNN can see that Obama wins. Hillary Clinton is the best, and Like I will start posting these positive things about Hillary on Myspace and start a chain about her, and letting people know that CNN is bias, and is the only reason why CNN does what they do. If you call the news, stick with it, but don"t start picking side.

I am a Hillary supporter and congratulations to her for her win, however I congratulate Obama too because he did win more delegates it appears. Although confusing I do understand NV. way of dividing delegates but let me say NV. is isolated when it comes to they way they distribute their delegates and so people and haters of Hillary face the fact she still kicked his butt their and get reaady because the only win I think you will see in for Obama anytime soon may be S.C. but Super Tuesday you will see Hillary start to leave Obama in the dust.
Having said all that I hope that you all will quit dividing our party wth such hateful things that continue to get blogged by you all, I mean these are the kinda of things you would expect to hear from Republicans. So I hope when the time comes that Hillary is Nominated that you all will join her in defeating the Republicans and once again embrace Unity within our party. Please dont be fooled by any independant who may enter this race because if it is who they are presuming it to be then remember he was once a Republican and still leans that way and will govern in that direction too. And should I be wrong about Hillary then I will ask all the suporters of Hillary to embrace and support Obama, or Edwards. I love our Country and I love our Party they are the only hope for bringing that brighter future back in our picture.

One more thing. Adrien is absolutly correct. BIllary cannot win a general election. She will get reduced to sheds by Independants. I don't care who the GOP's nominee is, Independants will destroy her campaign. She would eb lucky to lose 48 to 52.

VOTE the O, BIllary must GO !

In 2004, Bush won more electoral votes and less of the popular vote. He was declared the winner...by law. Face it, Obama won Nevada and you have to dig deep to find the truth of the matter on CNN.com.

How come the Clintons keep telling us what we need and continue to talk down to us as if we are the kids and they are the parents. The Come Back Kids (oops, not kid, I meant cryer) is back at it, telling us how they (Billary and Bill) need them. With BIllary, all we will get is 4 probably 8 years of fighting, finger pointing, divided gov and a divided nation. BIllary knows if she can't do it this year, she is done. The opportunity will never return, shes scared and they will continue to throw out everything at no cost to win. They smell..........

With Obama we have hope, a chance to rie above, a chance for something new. The man is a leader. Please VOTE the O

Why is the media constantly flogging Hillary? She is clearly the best person for the challenges we face as a Nation. Still, the media builds the Obama mania hype then labels it a racial issue when we don't agree. Hillary is my choice because she is the best person for the job period. Stack the caucauses against her all you want, distort her message and steal her delagates- she still triumphs as the people's choice and thus a true winner.

The fact is that it is the total number of delegates that determine who gets the nomination, just as it is the electoral college that determines who becomes President. If we do not like it, then we need to get the rules and laws changed. Until then, it is what it is. The Democrat nomination is won with 2025 delegates. There are 796 superdelegates, most of them have not pledged yet, and the rest are determined by the popular vote in primary states, and the number of delegates selected in the caucus states–county delegates won by popular vote go to county convention that select state delegates that go to state convention. Then the national delegates will be chosen at the state convention. Nevada gets 25 national delegates to go to the National convention Each state has its own rules in how those national delegates are selected, including the states that have primaries instead of caucuses.

Since it is the number of delegates that determines the nomination, then why does the media say that Hillary won "Big" She didn't. Nor did she "win" in New Hampshire. She and Obama tied. Michigan has been stripped of its delegates because it didn't play by the rules. (Sorry Michigan residents, you have only your own state officials to blame for that) Florida is in the same boat as Michigan.

So, the real headlines should have been-
Obama won Iowa
Obama and Clinton tied in New Hampshire
Obama won Nevada

If you do not like the process, and I am one that believes that the popular vote should be the determining factor in both, then the only way to get it changed is to become active in contacting the parties and the state and national legislators. It is just like complaining about who wins or looses, but not taking the time to actually vote. We the people can do anything, but not as long as we just sit back and complain about it.

Who cares,, the bigger question is ,, How long will The dem/lib party continue to in fight before they implode ? while you all are fighting like first graders ,Huck just congradulated McCain for his win and thanked the other republican candidates for running a clean and respectful campaign ! WE the people are watching and laughing,,,,,, this election should have been a NO-BRAINER for you guys and you still managed to blow it,,,, Now your going to have to earn it,,, Good luck with your NEW I'm angrier than you are stratedgy ,,,, LMAO

I'd hate a Clinton/Obama ticket. I do not want to see Obama in the White House at all. Hillary is way smarter than that. Obama will make the Democrats lose the election if he's part of the ticket.

Hillary 08!

Ready to Lead!

cecelia from maryland.

thanks for you responce. i tell it like it is been in politics too many years to do it any other way

There is so much racism coming from the press, it is sickening!

First of all, Barack is running as AN AMERICAN!
Barack has never been running as a so-called 'black', especially when he fell from white loins,.

And all this talk about South Carolina being half-Black?
What's up with that?
Wouldn't the other half of South Carolina count as Americans?

The media morons need to cease pushing the racism. And the media cannot blame the candidates for pushing the racism.

Every stupid media outlet is constantly blasting Americans with THEIR racism, and the evil effort to further polarize the America and make us unable to confront and solve the big issues that confront the nation.

For shame on the racists in the media!

This is what the PROBLEM is in caucus's.

Bill Clinton said it best.

Become a democrat for a day, vote against the strongest democratic candidate to help the republican party.

In a primary, you can only vote ONCE.

Just like Iowa was a caucus.

Here are the facts. Hillary won the actual vote. Hillary won the state delegates.

But because of some tap dancing system, obama gets one more delegate?

Whatever. it isnt that big a deal.

Then why did he concede DEFEAT when he lost NH by only 2% points and TIED in the delegate count?

Answer?:

He was still on a ROLL after NH and could AFFORD to admit defeat because it was a slim loss.

Since then. Michigan went to clinton by all the uncommited and other candidates combined.

Nevada went to clinton with all the other candidates COMBINED.

Obama isnt in a great position to play the 'gallant man' now.

Why? Why does he need to play the 'delegate card' now?

Simple . He got CRUSHED in the latino vote.

Hey all you Obama supporters, would you be saying that HIllary had won if the results had been reversed? No you wouldn't. So just grow up and get over it. Your guy lost; he didn't think he would once he got the Culinary Workers Union, but he did, plain and simple. He couldn't carry the Hispanic or women's vote or a host of other core Democratic voters. And those who think that McCain is such a formidable candidate have not been paying attention to what he's been saying and who has been supporting him (I wonder how formidable he'll be when he has to put that wing-nut, Huckabee, on his ticket as his VP.)

Even after the GREAT CULINARY workers UNION –OBAMA still LOST.

The great INSPIRATIONAL speaker OBAMA STUTTERS ....... during the DEBATE. I believe he has NO substance and lack of knowledge.

Chage can happen only by doing things,not just by TALKING.

Have you read the story!!! Neither Senator Obama nor Senator Clinton have won the most delegates in Nevada as these are not determined until April...... The numbers are an estimate by the media... Senator Clinton won the popular vote in Nevada.

Based on the formula weighted to certain distrincts, Obama won the most delegates. In fact, CNN reported that one of the delegates Hillary won was by card draw due a caucaus having equal support for Hillary and Obama. It could have easily been 14 delegates for Obama and 11 delegates for Hillary instead of actually being 13 delegates for Obama and 12 delegates for Hillary.

I think Obama could have done better than Hillary in the majority of Nevada caucaus sites won (thereby being at 52% or higher) if he had emphasized more of his community organizer and civil rights attorney status. Everday Americans don't have a detailed view of what Obama was involved in as a community organizer in the poor side of Chicago and civil rights attorney. He needs to elaborate more on how came out of his Ivy league college and worked going house-to-house and church-to-church in the poor urban side of Chicago. He should emphasize how he was underpaid and his own poor living conditions he endured to help bring about change at the grassroots level as well as the lessons he learned from that experience.

Hillary can't compete with this type of experience level because her experience is based on working for prominent law firms and organizations making mega-bucks once out of law school. He also has to stay semi-aggressive in showing that he is consistent and resilant in his views and party affliation as opposed to Hillary who was a Republican supporter of Barry Goldwater for President in 1964 even though Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

A few months ago HRC was crushing everyone in the polls across the nation. HRC had the name recognition and I think a lot of voters thought that it was a forgone conclusion that HRC would win the democratic nomination. They didn't want to throw away their vote on Obama. The longer this race drags out, the more exposure Obama will get and the more voters will see that he has a viable shot at beating Hillary.

I am surprised anyone would want Hillary to be the first woman president. While I am
judging all the candidates according to their positions and character, I understand peoples desire to be part of history. Electing the first black or woman president is a big deal.
However I would like the first woman president to be great. I would want history to say that Americas first woman President made the world a better place. I would want
her time in office to inspire women to run for office and motivate people to vote for them.
With Hillary we are going to get four years of slime, corruption, and incompetence. People will regret ever putting a woman in the white house. Her presidency will do more to smear women in politics than Bush has disgraced men.
If Hillary is elected, the first woman president may well be the last.

Obama will win African American votes and young voters. Obama will win SC probably by a large margin, but unfortunately for him it will be so skewered by the heavy AA vote that it will be seen as just blacks voting for the black candidate , right or wrong. I think it will hurt him in the long run.

PJ is right! Hillary will get the Democratic nomination but will lose to
McCain in the fall. The Clintons bring too much baggage along with
them. Hillary is such a phoney....but she can always blame the "vast
right wing conspiracy" and laugh or cackle all the way back to New York.
New Yorkers deserve the Clintons...they should keep them there!!!

I went to work this morning to find that my place of business had been vandalized by candidate Obama's people.

At 3:08 AM this morning 2 men in business suits/ties, in their late twenties/early thirties were observed (and filmed) kicking my 4X8 Hillary signs from a metal fence on my property.

As vehicles approached, the two Obama guys hid on the ground behind the signs. After the vehicles passed they continued their kicking of both the fence and signs causing damage to the fence itself as well as the ridge-cap at the top of the bricks upon which the fence is anchored.

The Obama guys managed to finally destroy both Hillary signs, damage my fence and crack the ridge cap on two 20 ft sections of my fence.

How do I know they were Obama's people? Because I zoomed in on their badges.

These miscreants do not belong in a campaign, THEY BELONG IN JAIL!

To be honest Obama is getting all this attention for number of reasons:
1) he is attractive.
2) he went to harvard
3)can give good prepared speeches. He seems to searching for words when asked question out of his prepared or antcipated question.
4) he is black.

That is why black hollywood is jumping to back him.

YES they are.

Super delegates are people in the senate or govenors or whatnot within the party whom can be a delegate without being 'voted' in.

Super delegates do not HAVE to pledge to a candidate. But if they DO , then it is really written in stone.

While nobody can FORCE you to then go thru with your vote, its rare to unheard of for those who do 'endorse' to change their mind.

John Kerry endorsed Obama. This was added as a delegate to Obamas total. Now, if Obama is found to be some kind of ridiculous 'scandal' , then Kerry will obviously withdrawl his endorsment. But to save political face, he wont, even if it looks like Clinton is going to win the nomination.

So , CNN , like other media outlets, has tallied up these pledged votes.

No. They arent just 'guessing' and assigning delegates. No. the super delegates arent saying 'maybe' blah blah blah.

This is why there is still a a fair number of people who havent 'endorsed' yet.

So yes, Clinton is winning by about 90 delegates.

By the way, only 80% of the voted delegates can count in the total. The rest come from the super delegates.

At this rate, Obama needs a LOT of endorsments by super delegate because he isnt going to make up the difference in the voting .

This is why JOHN EDWARDS who has 60 delegates, is still in the race. He could chuck them at Obama, (if he would stop pissing edwards off) and tip the scales.

I will be so happy come November when the Republicans defeat Hillary. I will proudly vote with the Republicans to defeat her. I ASK ALL ANTI-HILLARY PEOPLE TO JOIN ME. With the number of Repubs. coming out to defeat her and our votes, she will go down in the most HUMILATING MANNER possible to men. If you are against her now, you clearly are for a reason. Please remember that reason and stand on principle and help defeat her. Her supporters might be blind to her but the rest of us are not. The woman and anyone around her is toxic damaged material.

This is Fantastic comments, I am a senior white man of 78 yrs old, and if you think voting for the Clintons is the best for the American, Then you better think twice.

I am appealing to you all reading this message, there is something in that man OBAMA. Listen to his words and deeply you will find out that his words are for real.

Bill & his Wife were in the white house for 8 yrs, and with their so called 35 yr experience, can someone tell me what they have done for the American People??
And it was a big disappointment that the Latinos and the few white people voted for Clinton in Nevada.

If you believe that Clinton will make a change, please sit back and think again. We are tired of this lies.

American is smarter than such lies.

I have been offer money to vote, but guess what. I will be honest for my next generations than few dollars to put America into a dark hole.

Bill & Hillary, The time is up, please be kind enough to withdraw.

SHAME on you both for attempting to role your lies over us again
I voted for you twice, but this time. I will not be fool again.

God Bless you all fellow American, this is our chance to get back the white house, Only with OBAMA. ( Change we can, old & young)

Howard.

ron January 20, 2008 4:27 pm ET

clinton / obama ticket? Any possibilities or is it dead!

Ron that is dead. I wouldn't vote for any ticket that has Clinton on it. I don't care if she put my own mother on it, I would still not vote for her. Ironically, I supported her at first. Heck, I even sent money to her campaign. However, the tactics of her campaign soooo turned me off that my support ended.

Cecelia, Maryland January 20, 2008 4:36 pm ET
Cecelia you have nothing to worry about, even if Hillary wins the nomination she will still be defeated in the general election. The many people that don't like her now, will still not like her then. And let us not forget, the mass mobilaztion of the Repubs. come Nov. So, I highly doubt she will be able to overcome the massive amount of people that will be voting against her and the number of votes she will be losing. No, her supporters made their bed and come Nov. they will be crying in spilled milk laying in that very bed.

Hillary Clinton is the most experienced and knowledgeable candidate for president.

This Obama hype is just that. Wait till super tuesday. We will have our parties nominee and that will be Hillary Rodham Clinton!

Go Hillary!

I hit the button to fast....anyway, hold them accountable. If it happened as stated, then they should have no problem filing a formal complaint in a court of law. I suspect they won't because it is a LIE. In any case, never let them forget they have made such accusations and make them prove it. They will do anything to get her elected – but this is overboard and way more than what is needed. Hold them accountable America. To her supporters, you too should do the same. If you believe in her so much, make her prove she is diserving of your loyalty. Make her prove to you that she is not using you as sheep.....

So, did Hillary or Obama win? It's a tie, friends. It's a squeaker. It means nothing except on to the next battle.

Mr. Yoon,

I'm not sure how you have arrived at the conclusion that "According to the state party: both of them and neither of them" were right.

I'm not even going to try to interpret what the two campaigns are saying about the national delegate count, but what the NDSP chair Jill Derby said was simple plain english (probably a Spanish version was circulated too, but I didn't see it –no national convention delegates were awarded yesterday, but only county convention delegates.

Most of the MSM seems to get this delegate part of the primaries/caucuses wrong, except New York Times, which chose to explain how the delegate process works for each state and chose not to calculate national convention delegates after the primary/caucus.

In April, come state convention time, this race could be so different we may not be even talking about delegate count. Or may be we could be. Why not wait until then!?

one thing is for shure,cnn is endorsing/supporting clinton.

cause there is no coverage of other candidates(maybe obama?)

maybe edwards should drop out instead of taking votes away from either hillary or barak and then let the games begin. clearly he isn't a viable candidate since all of the media attention goes to the other two, as does the votes.

how petty can obama be? if he is so confident that he will prevail, why does he make comments like that of kindergarteners "oh yeahhhhh but i won more delegates!" a simple congratulations/ concession would have sufficed. he wants to be the better person/ candidate/ president so maybe he should act like one. just as gore lost to bush in 2000 with more of the popular vote but not enough electoral votes, this situation should show us that "every vote" doesn't really count now does it?

All these commentaries on the analysis of the percentage of black voters voting for Obama or Clinton, especially in SC, is ridiculous. Clinton may lose SC, but the majority of the rest of states will probably go to Clinton. In the general election, 90% of the black vote will come back to Hillary anyway. I want Obama cuz I cannot imagine those two despicable Clintons in the WH again. By the end of Super Tuesday, Obama will be done, and Hillary will be the nominee, which is the saddest thing I can imagine for this country.

Three Questions:

1. How many of you voted for Bill because of his experience back in 1992? He was relatively unknown. A Governor from a small state.

2. Do you think Kennedy was elected on experience? Or how about Abraham Lincoln?

3. Do you think that it's fair to give Bill a third term in the White House? He was no FDR, and he actually contributed to the recession of 1998 that we have all forgotten about.

Selective memory is not good politics.

To Charlotte: You write: Until someone can come up with a better process. The process is the way it is whether we like it or not.

Well, what's the matter with everyone having one vote and whatever candidate wins the most votes wins? I know this is a strange and unique concept...but isn't this supposed to be a goverment for the people, by the people?

It is prevented from a high population area from getting all the voting say. Same as the electoral college, perfect? No, but it is fairer and one of the basis our country was founded on.

Most of the Superdelegates have not decided yet. It is a CNN misnomer to award her with all of the superdelegates at this point. Especially since Sen. Obama has received some key endorsements from his colleagues that are superdelegates.

Neither Hillary nor Obama can win the White House, especially if McCain wins the primaries. While it would be historic to have the 1st black or woman pres., it's not going to happen with these two. Hillary is too divisive & entrenched with special interests & Obama is too liberal & inexperienced. Neither of them will win any of the red states lost in 2000 or 2004. Edwards is the only candidate who has beat all republicans in polls. He is also the only one who has vowed to keep lobbyists out of his admin.

I find it interesting that when Obama won Iowa, he was touted by the press as the "winner" and "front runner" and Clinton was said to have lost by a large margin. Yet they were one delegate apart, which seemed to me that they were neck and neck. It was even stated by the Media (yes, them again) that delegates didn't matter, it was "momentum" that really counts.

Now that Hillary has won the popular vote in NH and in Nevada, the Media are singing a different song, comparing delegates closely, saying that Obama has more, etc etc and explaining how complicated it all is, talking of national delegates. Once again it's clear that the Media is very much against Hillary and instead of reporting the news in an unbiased way, insist on interjecting their preference against Clinton and for Obama in every little "spin". Too bad most people can't see this...

Thank you Maynard, a voice of reason. I was at a social gathering last night where there were women age 55+ who were Clinton supporters. Once we got into a debate about the election, it was clear they were supporting Clinton because of her gender. When they were asked where she stood on issues, they could not articulate it. They said they admire Barack and what he stands for. They believe he's a stronger leader that can bring the country together. BUT they said the "young boy" needs to wait until his time comes. Hillary has waited for this office a long time and has prepared herself for it. So, there is no consideration of the issues, no consideration that because she's so divisive she will not get her plans passed the Senate (remember her healthcare bill). She deserves it because she positioned herself for it. It's sad when people vote for an important position like the presidency based on emotions. America wake up! We have an opportunity to have one of the greatest political leader of our time (40 and under) into the White House, please think about who you are sending there. Do we really want someone who is willing to sell her soul to the devil for power? Look at the tactics she's using to win the White House – lies and mischaracterizations. God help us all if she wins the White House.

pinga,

type in superdelegates at google, good definitions there. My understanding is that the super's are people in the party that have history, former gov's,presidents etc. I assume they have already commited themselves to one candiate or another.

clinton / obama ticket? Any possibilities or is it dead!

FINN I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST "take away the superdelegates", THE SUPERDELEGATES ....WILL ..... BE COUNTED TOWARD A MAJORITY VOTE THAT WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE WHO GETS THE NOMINATION. AGAIN , AS I SAID THE BIGGER QUESTION IS HOW DID CLINTON GET THAT MANY OF THEM FROM THE START EVEN BEFOR IOWA ???? AND DID IS JUST AN HONEST QUESTION ... JUST WANT TO GET IT!

GO HILLARY 08.

People you have know there are delegates and super delegates. States have delegates, the national delegates are super delegates. If you go to Election Center 2008 and see Obama 38 Clinton 36 Edwards18. just below that click full scorecard. Now you will see Clinton 210 Obama 123 Edwards 52 Kucinich 1 That is how we reach the magic number of 2,025 delegates to win the democratic nomination

Okay...this is something I didn't know...but I'll take it. Anything to keep that windbag HRC out of office...She is the biggest fraud of the century...a pure phoney.

I hat seeing all those high percentages for her...hopefully, we will see a shift when we move to states with larger black populations. The myth of the Clintons being more black and stronger supporter of the black community than Obama is indeed a fairy tale. Frankly, it's a bit hard to understand why the Clinton supporters buy in to her propaganda....but then, like HRC, the Clinton supporters only care about one thing...getting to the white house.

It will be a long hard battle for sure because reason will not be the play of the day here for HRC and her surrogates and supporters.

It has become increasingly obvious that CNN has a bias – they report heavily on Clinton and barely on Obama. When they do report on Obama it is frequently with a negative spin. Obama has consistently won more delegates than Clinton – and if you take away the "superdelegates" that are not elected but appointed – he should be able to win it.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT ... HILLARY HAS OVER 100 MORE DELEGATES THAN OBAMA OVER ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHECK THE FACTS. WHEN YOU COUNT THE SUPEDELEGATES (WHICH SOMEHOW WERE GRANTED TO HER EVEN BEFORE IOWA) SHE'S ALREADY IN THE 230'S WHILE OBAMA IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW THE BETTER QUESTION IS HOW COME SHE ALREADY HAD SO MANY ?????? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER UNFORTUNATELY. BUT THESE ARE FATCS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Debbie Thanks!

If those counts are accurate, Obama did win Nevada!
And I do have to apologize to Obama supporters. I'm Hispanic, and unfortunately, many of my community are not very educated, and not very couragous politically. This explains why they broke for Clinton in the caucus. Again, I apologize for thier ignorance. But he did pull off the Delegate win, so all's well that ends well. Hope fully we in Ca won't make the same mistake as the housekeeping staff in Vegas.

Question: Did Obama give a speech in which he conceeded the N.V. race to Clinton?

His concession speech in New Hampshire had not one note of "concession" in it. Pretty darned ungracious of him...and not at all respectful of the people who turned out to vote and participate in the process.

Come to think of it...judging from some of the comments here, being a poor loser seems to be a trait Obama and his supporters share.

Those who are "surprised" at Obama's response to the "so-called victory" of Hillary in Nevada would need to understand a few facts:

1. Obama has repeatedly tried to reach out to Hillary, even calling home some of his "dogs" during the "racial" crises; Clinton simply turned around and smeard Obama after the truce was reached.

2. In debate, after debate, Obama has tried to show "respect" for Clinton. As an example, in the NH debate, Obama consistently commented that Hillary is a "likeable" person, only for Hillary to come out the next day and attack him; so did our ex-president Bill (remember the "fairy tale...").

3. There are two, very strong people– Bill and Hillary, consistently distorting the "established records" of Obama. Obama has tried to use comdey and even humor to resolve these attacks.

4. In Washington, this is HOW Hillary is known– She does not want to play nice with anyone if she is at the losing end. Now, what should we expect of Obama? Like most people in the Senate who have had it with Hillary, I think Obama is close to giving up on reaching out to the Clintons!!! Those who are putting their necks out there for the Clintons should be aware of these facts, no party affiliation desires.

Party Politics?

Really lets put all eight/nine on the generla ballot. First gets president, second gets VP. Wouldn't it be interesting having a Dem Pres and a Repub VP. Seems to bme the system is flawed. Do not like the idea of a caucus, all states should have primaries at a minimum

Hillary Hates Cats
So I hope she loses

I love Cats.

I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT CHARLOTTE WROTE for the UNINFORMED!!!

This is what a lot of people seem to not understand. Popular votes do not insure a win at the national party conventions. Delagates decide. Each state has X amount of delegates. The party has super delegates, who also vote. So with that said, split votes such as Obama 13, Clinton 12, Romney 15, McCain16. It is confusing, but that is the way the game is played.
Ex: Nixon won popular, Kennedy won the election.
Ex: Gore won popular, Bush won the election.
Some have won both. We have had good/bad presidents. Until someone can come up with a better process. The process is the way it is whether we like it or not. -- THANK YOU CHARLOTTE. I HOPE PEOPLE STOP MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS REGARDING THIS MATTER AND GET TO DISCUSSING REAL ISSUES!!!

WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE DON'T BE FOOLED. GO OBAMA!!

Dr. Young, there is no need to have a debate with Obama. There are other competent classmates of his who can debate you anywhere and just about anytime. By the way, where did you "...." your PhD?

Congratulations on your victory in Nevada Senator Obama!

Psst. CNN, your own vote tracking website page shows Barack with more delegates in Nevada! Why the inconsistent article?

Obama now leads in National delegates according to CNN, 38-36.

Go Obama!

Obama must feel like Dubya right now.
Claiming victory with less than the popular vote.
Its enough to make a true democrat's blood boil.

Let me preface this by saying the democratic party can legally choose whoever they want by whatever means (nearly 20% of voting power resides in the hands of party officials, NOT caucus voters). If voters don't like the rules, complain about the party setup because the US government has nothing to do with a party nomination. With that said, the US has many safeguards to prevent the popular vote always determining issues (electoral college, senate, etc.). This is to stop mob rule. US politics have always attempted to protect the individual or minority from the wishes of the majority.

In the Nevada caucus, HRC won Clark County which had by far the most voters, but Obama actually won more counties. Thus, he is cleaning up in rural areas (traditional republican strongholds) but got slammed in the cities (traditional democratic strongholds). I'm beginning to think that HRC is getting more solid support from staunch, older democrats while Obama is getting more independents and newer democrats. I believe that Obama has a greater chance to win the general election since he is appealing to more people beyond the democrats. However, I'm not sure if he will win the democratic nomination.

In a way, they both won the state of Nevada.

It would be so much easier if it was just winner take all lol

Yes, wake up America! The Clintons will bring a big mess into the White House, all the pay back time from their 8 corrupted years, scandals, legal manouvres, buying political power, divisionism (no Republican will willlingly want to work with any one of them) and personal ambition. We need a fresh start with a young, sincere, energetic, smart candidate, get informed and vote for your country. America needs it!

Clinton getting the popular vote is more significant then the fact Obama got one more delegate , as a majority of states award delegates to whoever wins the popular vote in the general elections So that is why her win was a big deal.

Or do you want a Conservative down south White Man who is a Bush Cronie?

And national delegates arent awarded untiil the state convention in Nevada, and if you read the Nevada Democratic Party report, then you would understand the delegates arent guarenteed. We saw delegate estimates change a couple days after Iowa so they are not guarenteed numbers until April.

Church/ Synogouge/ Mosque etc. Should not influnence state choices. Back up your words!! Cite your sources!! Just don't give me religous junk. about hillary this Obama that because Obama is Black and HIllary is white. Race should not come between to very talented people. What are you guys part of the I don't want to move forward soceity? Where we cant think futuristic on where we are stuck in the past? How about we can have a White Women for President. Or a Black Man. As long as there Smart? OR do you want a stupid president? " Old Men send Young people to die?" you guys want that? Back yourselves up next time.

Um you can tell she won the popular vote because as you can see, she won much more than him in Clark county. The state delegates are awarded based upon who wins each precincts. So whoever wins the most state delegates wins the higher vote totals. She won by 6%, so its obvious she won the popular vote, now in Iowa, its obvious Obama won the popular vote. Anyway, 1 delegate isnt going to change the race dramatically. Once you get to Feb 5th, the delegates become much more important.

Win for Obama. Obama '08!

Why is there all the hub-bub about two people that running for office that have NO proven leadership experience or ability. This has become nothing but a popularity contest. I dont know about anyone else but this scares the heck out of me, we are in a position that requires STONG leadership regardless of all the games and false promisess that seem to steadly floe out of the mouths of these candidates.
Please let me finish with saying that I am not part of any party or anything else,
just worried.

CNN is BIASED in their reporting. Why are they not saying that Obama WON more delegates than Hillary? All that you hear is "Hillary won and she now has the momentum'. Two months ago, Hillary had Nevada ALL to herself. Tell, me, WHO has the momentum-Obama or Hillary? CNN, try to be FAIR, a little. YOu are too biased in favor of the Clintons.

Why are you all reporting that Clinton won the Nevada caucuses? Obama won more potential convention delegates, which is the true result of this primary process. You are skewing the results in favor of the numerical vote count rather than the more critical *delegate* vote count. Clinton apparently had a higher vote count in those caucuses that favored her, while Obama apparently won more of the caucuses with high delegate counts. Please get your headlines and news reporting correct! You are showing a bias for Clinton – are you intimidated by Bill Clinton’s bullying?

Here are the facts, no matter which side of this you are on.

The FIRST person to reach 2025 delegates will win the Democratic nomination.

Obama beat Clinton in Iowa by 1 delegate – (Obama 16) (Clinton 15)

Obama tied Clinton in New Hampshire – (Obama 9) (Clinton 9)

Obama beat Clinton in Nevada by 1 delegate – (Obama 13) (Clinton 12)

Total State Delegates awarded to date:
Obama 38
Clinton 36

The reason this works is that Vegas tries to control the entire state and to weaken their power the state is broken down so they may have more people but equal importance in terms of delegates as the smaller districts.

Amy, Kazoo is correct. my wife and I went to the Nevada caucus for Edwards and it was the most disorganized mess I have seen since I was in the Navy during Viet Nam.

Will Rogers was obviously correct when back it the 1930's he stated that "I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrate"

N Did you feel the same way about John Edwards when he did not congratulate Obama on his Iowa win. Always think before you talk and don't be bias.
No wonder I need a big CHANGE A.S.A.P. Obama 08.

I don,t care who won the delegates.you people should wake up and look at what has happened to this country with the past presidents.. do we need 4 more years of a clinton in office. i am 62 years old and the last 20 years of politics is
the most undesirable years that i have seen.

wake up america befor its to late. we still can change this around and not have the woman of many faces running this country

Man this system is antiquated.

I too am an Obama supporter, i can't say i'm disappointed with him winning more delegates, however, it took this Nevada caucus for me to grasp the concept of the electoral college. i'm learning a lot from this election, and as i can say i would absolutely be upset if Obama won popular vote and Hill the delegate count, i can also say that it is interesting to look at the way the delegates are split geographically and why they would be weighted differently. imagine if they weren't weighted heavier in the rural areas... no one would campaign there! the major cities throughout America would decide who wins elections simply because of population density, and no matter who you support or how that would effect your candidate, it would undoubtedly create a biased system.

the fact that Obama cleaned up in rural Nevada is amazing. is it more difficult and time consuming to campaign across such a wide area, the message has to be much more tailor made to the audience, the message has to stick, especially when running against the almighty element of Name Recognition. to win the rural vote by such a majority and then to compete so well in the metro areas to only lose by a few hundred votes out of ten thousand speaks well of the organization that the Obama has in place.

Matt January 20, 2008 1:43 pm ET

I'm not sure where you get 'Hilary win the popular vote'?

In any case, the diving up of power and representation in the US CANNOT just be on the basis of mere popularity contest.

Otherwise, how would the nation account for and accept the fact that some relatively SMALL states having as many US Senators as large states?

The important thing is that the contestants ACCEPT A WORKABLE FORMULA for representation going into the electoral contest, and DO NOT seek to change things at the last moment before caucus if, say, a union endorsement is not gotten!

In other words, Matt, one man one vote is just a cliché that is deceptively used to score small political points with those citizens who do not think much about the PRACTICAL realities of representation in America's history. lol

Well, how does CNN know who won the popular vote ?
I would like to know )
It is NOT counted, 51 percent to 45 percent to 4 percent is the (relative) number of caucus-delegates, not the votes for the respective candidates.
You couls also claim that 2000 Bush won the popular vote, as he won the electoral vote, but that is not true.
Maybe Obama won the popular vote, and Clinton just took the areas with more caucus-delagates then she actually deserves based on her share of votes.
To call it a Clinton win is simply based on the wrong assumption that they DID counted the popular vote.
So instead they should admit that they were deeply mistaken and accept the HARD fact that the candidate with more deleagtes to the DNC won, cause that's what counts. Bush WON in 2000, remember?
He did NOT win the popular vote, but that was not even counted on election day, as it doens't matter.
What matters to get the nomination?

Got it, boys?

The delegates to the DNC!

Breakdown by Counties in Nevada:

County Clinton Obama Reporting
Carson City 44.38% 50.56% 100%
Churchill 45.1% 49.02% 100%
Clark 53.41% 42.87% 97.96%
Douglas 42.24% 49.69% 100%
Elko 28.7% 58.33% 100%
Esmeralda 25.71% 62.86% 100%
Eureka 25.64% 48.72% 100%
Humboldt 34.44% 51.11% 100%
Lander 42.65% 38.24% 100%
Lincoln 57.14% 25.71% 100%
Lyon 46.54% 42.14% 100%
Mineral 47.37% 43.42% 100%
Nye 55.21% 38.04% 93.94%
Pershing 41.77% 48.1% 100%
Storey 31.03% 51.72% 77.78%
Washoe 39.47% 48.8% 98.05%
White Pine 40.58% 44.93% 100%

I think everyone should just boycott Nevada all together. It has caused more problems than solved.

All week long everyone has heard about the voter suppression issues involving the caucuses. If Nevada had brains, it would have avoided this entire situation by holding a normal primary election, like New Hampshire.

And now the winner of the caucuses really isn't the "winner?" What a great state!

Karen, you said it right:

"If it ends as a brokered convention, the people will be left out of the equation yet again and the politicians will maintain control of the decision of who is the president."

Democrats complained in 2000 when Bush beat Gore with less overall national popular votes. While I didn't agree with that, it was, in a way, pardonable due to our Federal system. But to begin to bring this CRAZY system WITHIN A STATE is Democracy gone awry!

What next: DIFFERENT RACES VOTERS' VOTES AWARDED PER CAPITA ACCORDING TO % ANCESTRY IN EACH CANDIDATE?

What nonsense is this?!

Come on guys, we have to start speaking out against this.

Then there are the superdelegates which were designed for some measure of control when they don't like what the voters are doing. It's politics as usual.

I don't understand why the news media says that Clinton won Nevada when Clinton received 12 delegates and Senator Obama received 13.

A caucus is for determining delegates not to see what the popular vote is. I've read somewhere where Obama did not congratulate Clinton, my question is did SHE congratulate HIM for winning the most delegate?

13 beats 12 so Obama won!

Obama '08

And I have to say, I resent Senator Obama's statement last night. Instead of congratulating Senator Clinton when it was due, he instead chose to point out that he may end up with one extra delegate, without so much as an acknowledgement of the fact that she won by SIX PERCENT. That is not one or two percentage points, that is a decisive victory. Even if he is technically correct (though the Nevada State Democratic Party has said it is irrelevant at this point), it was innapropriate to bring it up last night. I understand they need to spin it, and it is appropriate and true to point out that only a few months ago he was WAY behind in the polls, so they still did well. But it is totally innapropriate and embaressing for him to try and rain on her parade this way. I think you learn the most about a person when they are faced with adversity, and I have to say Senator Clinton is the picture of grace and poise when faced with adversity, and after Senator Obama's statement on his loss in Nevada (i.e. I didn't really loose), it is clear that he does not handle it quite as well. You win some, you lose some. Do better in the next state and move on. And ALWAYS give credit where credit is due....

I just cannot imagine what happened to the politics of unity and hope...he is turning out to be no different than any other politician, and potentially worse if this gracelessness keeps up everytime he is faced with a challenge.

Matt....you are my hero! Spot on.....

A system is not unfair simply because you can't understand it. The electoral college and similar systems used in primaries are designed to make elections fair. The United States was founded as a constitutional republic not a democracy. In a true democracy the majority could and would rule everything. The most highly populated cities in the most populated states would have all the power. Condo living millionaires in New York City would have absolute say over the taxes levied on mobile homes in Oregon. The electoral college system allows large but less populated areas to maintain a voice in national politics. The majority still has the largest influence but less populated states and counties are not completely disenfranchised.

Sounds to me, after the explanation of the NV rules, like no one won the delagates yet.

Trying to spin it one way or the other is lame, the facts will be known when they come to bare, until then conjecture is empty and inflated at the same time.

Good fodder for people like Obama, Romney and the media personalities, you know windbags, that talk to hear themselves speak,

The system isn't outdated, and it isn't really that complicated. The fact that people do not take the time to learn about how our democracy is organized does not mean we should dumb the system down. We have a proportional system for a variety of reasons, and unless you live in a densely populated area, you should be very thankful for that fact, otherwise you would be seriously lacking in representation.

Folks, you have to ask yourself: WHY IS IT THAT A VIRTUAL UNKNOWN IN THE PERSON OF BARACK OBAMA COULD BE GIVING HIGHLY POPULAR HILLARY CLINTON SUCH A RUN IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE? WHY? WHY? WHY?

The answer is simple: Despite name recognition and her so-called 35 years of experience (more like exposure), Hillary Clinton is not liked by half of the Democratic leadership and base. This is not good news for her!

As a Black Republican New Yorker, I admire Obama's firey passion that has brought alive the race to the White House, but while I don't think he will ever get to the White House, I don't want to see that communist devil named Hillary Clinton as President.

That's why I say: McCain-Giuliani in 2008!

YES WE CAN!!! GO OBAMA!

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CAN!!!!!!!!!

Dont worry MAtt, Obama is going to change evefrything, he will pick a republican for v.p..

From talking to all my friends across the whole country there is an expectation being raised That for once an intelligent charismatic Thinking politician has a good chance at the Presidency. The voters I talk to all believe that If Obama wins the Nomination for the Democratic party He will garner support from all sides of the political spectrum ad would make a formidable candidate and President.

From an impartial standpoint, it would seem to me that this means Nevada was won by Barack Obama. A win by the slimmest of margins, but still a win. If in fact he got more national delegates, then how is he not the winner? The terrible thing about this is that I had to be told about it from a supporter, and then do some searching online to find out that Obama indeed got 13 delegates to Hillary's 12. That's not exactly the resounding Clinton win as shown on CNN, Headline News, Fox, etc. I saw no mention of this on television yesterday (and I watched a lot of it), and there was no mention of it on CNN.com until today. What gives, journalists? Do your jobs!

I pray Obama wins the nomination. This is the first person running that knows what the people want. We've had enough of the Bush-Clinton Dynasty and we need EVERYONE'S HELP to ge tObama on the ticket ! No matter who the GOP nominee turns out to be, Obama can lead us all forward !

I agree with Matt. This system needs to change. We have the technology and (I hope) the intelligence as a people to switch to a popular vote system. As for delegates, Hillary has an estimated 87 up on Obama at this point, so even if she loses more states than she wins, as long as the races are relatively close, she would still get the nomination. I will be interested to see how the national popular vote measures up to the delegates when this is all said and done.

January 20, 2008 11:45 am ET
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This is what a lot of people seem to not understand. Popular votes do not insure a win at the national party conventions. Delagates decide. Each state has X amount of delegates. The party has super delegates, who also vote. So with that said, split votes such as Obama 13, Clinton 12, Romney 15, McCain16. It is confusing, but that is the way the game is played.
Ex: Nixon won popular, Kennedy won the election.
Ex: Gore won popular, Bush won the election.
Some have won both. We have had good/bad presidents. Until someone can come up with a better process. The process is the way it is whether we like it or not.

This is why Americans are so disillusioned when it comes to politics. Hillary won the popular vote in NV, yet she doesn't get the majority of delegates in the state. Gore wins the popular vote nationally, yet he doesn't win the presidency. Why bother to vote if it doesn't count because of some complicated, outdated set of rules?

I'm an Obama supporter, so good news to me, but it does seem to be a very strange (unfair?) system. Seems to me, since Hillary won the state..she should be guaranteed more delegates under ANY circumstances.

Oh and Conmulligan.... Josh Lyman is my hero.

I'm curious to know if the counties broke one way, the delegates the other, are the superdelegates included in the delegate count? I saw one report of the split of the popular vote going another way. I wonder how voters will react if one candidate has the popular vote but another gets the delegate vote. It's Bush all over again. I know I won't be pleased. If it ends as a brokered convention, the people will be left out of the equation yet again and the politicians will maintain control of the decision of who is the president.

If it must be a contest between two factions, then I will induce the third.
IF the public hires the president and not the wisdom of a pre-selected Electoral College then let the people know the amount of related trivia the candidates possess.

"This is Jeopardy"
Alex Trebec

Proposed:

Yep; 'a few' have heard of the Colbert Bump, well let a few more gain the Jeopardy bump. Of the 251 announced candidates let them gain fortune from the hit television game show. Pre-elimination will be expected and of the final eighteen who will win the "Jeopardy tournament of Presidential Candidates".

Greater proposed:
Mr. Colbert is expected to test for contention.

There is a very strong "grassroots" groundswell building for Obama. You can just feel it at his rallies. The news on Nevada's delegates from more rural areas helps confirm it. America just needs to see and hear just a little bit more from Obama.

We say we want "change" and if you believe headlines, it's starting to look like the "candidates of choice" are Clinton and McCain for goodness sakes. I don't think anything could be more like "the same old thing". The more we cry for change it seems the more intent we are repeating history with these 2 candidates. Looks like America is taking a fall-back position right down the middle.

Are we afraid to take a chance? You have to take a chance to bring about change. Taking chances is what made America great...political fallback positions got us where we are today from both parties.

Clinton will still win this all. Go Hillary!!!

Hi
I write from France and follow your election closely. Why is there so little
media support for Ron Paul?. He came secong in Nevada and you dont even mention it. Your election results shown on your web is also wrong, putting McCain second instead of Paul. Its sickening to see your lovely country going down the drain with all the vote fraud going on. You guys will see that Ron Paul will win even if you do not report on him fairly. The American people have finally
woken up. Hurray
Axel Buttgen

If it must be a contest between to factions, then I will induce the third.
IF the public hires the president and not the electoral College then let the people know.

"This is Jeopardy"
Alex Trebec

Proposed:

Yep; 'a few' have heard of the Colbert Bump, well let a few more gain the Jeopardy bump. Of the 251 announced candidates let them gain fortune from the hit television game show. Pre-elimination will be expected and of the final eighteen who will win the "Jeopardy tournament of Presidential Candidates".

Greater proposed:
Mr. Colbert is expected to test for contension.

People, go to the Delegates Full Scorecard for candidates here in the CNN politics center. You'll see who really have more delegates.
CNN is just playing as an Obama supporter yet again. You all know that.

Then there's the issue about popular vote vs delegate vote. Do you all remember what happened in year 2000? We need to demand a more democratic electoral system. How many times do we need to go thru this in order to get it?
Another 4 years with a blunder like Bush and we are screwed.

We need someone highly smart, prepared, resilient, experienced, tough, courageous. Someone who knows how to bring the change we need, rather than dreaming about the change we need. We need Hillary.

Congratulations to Hillary for winning Nevada. I hope to see you in the White House next year!

Who cares about 1 Delegate, She won the most votes and no national conventional delagates were awarded. Just watch her delegates rise after Feb. 5, you have to look at the big picture, GO HILLARY !!!!!!!

well my boy obama still got more delegates

OK folks, here's the deal...

Barack Obama won more delegates because Republicans hijacked the caucus process in rural Nevada.

I base that on the following:

1. A good friend called me this morning from Elko, Nevada and laughingly told me that they really screwed Hillary. He told me he reregistered at the democratic Caucus location and stood up for Obama. I told him he at least, finally, managed to associate himself with the right party. He laughed and asked if I was kidding...
He registered as a Democrat for a day, not because he liked Obama (further clarifying to me that I should know better than that), but rather because he HATED THE CLINTONS and wanted to make sure that his county did not give one single delegate to Hillary Clinton.

2. My experience was reflective of this same phenomenon at my caucus location. I helped register many newly converted Republicans only to find that they were the only ones standing for Obama that would not discuss why they were supporting Barack. They were vocal Hillary Haters, one of which went so far as to call me a pervert because I support Hillary Clinton. The true Barack supporters were happy to talk about their inspiration and dedication to Barack, and that, folks is a very good thing, and how it should be!

3. The republican caucus had a pitiful turn out. Why? Because they were all reregistering as Democrats for a day, and HILLARY HATERS to, as my friend put it....screw Hillary.

So Democrats, if you think that nearly all rural counties in Nevada opted for Barack Obama, I'm sorry to say, that is not the case at all.

As a Democrat, I believe we have 3 very good candidates. I will support the party nominee, but the crap the republicans are pulling is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

This is a useless discussion.Hillary has won Nevada ,the Obama campaign as usual is full of misleading rhetoric and lack of substance,will try to salvage some points out of their awful defeat.

This is starting to tread on thin ice, making it appear as if our votes don't really count. No wonder people start thinking conspiracy theories. These things are rather complex and more education needs to be distributed on just how these numbers are calculated. I think caucuses are just a big mess and we need to really think about just having primaries... and here's a radical thought... The popular vote wins. The "popular" vote is the voice of the general mass of US population (who bothered to vote that is). How did something so simple become so complex? Some rich guy must not have gotten his way and used his money to influence the restructuring of the US voting systems. This is what it sounds like after you take all the political spin off of it anyway.

CONGRATULATIONS TO HILLARY!

Can't wait to hear the cries of "Foul" on this one !

Nevada is not the pulse or heat beat of the Nation just the locality where the mafia established legalized gambling, legalized prostitution and a whole lot of entertainment.

It takes a special kind of person to live in Las Vegas 24/7 and this isn't the heart beat of the Nation–just the wild hair

Hey what goes on in Las Vegas stayes in Las Vegas all except the STIDs

One last question. Why do rational, non smear, non racist comments go into moderation (and sometimes do not get posted)? What is CNN trying to do?

My feeling is that Should Clinton look like winning the Democratic party nomination and Mcain or especially Romney are predicted to win the republican Nomination after Super Tuesday then it is almost certain that Mike Bloomberg will run. That would definitely crush any chance of another Clinton white house. The Result would either be a Republican or Bloomberg Presidency.

Everybody loves OBAMA
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Young and strong

GO SENS GO
GO OBAMA GO

NO HILLARY PLEASE

AMERICA IS NOT A KINGDOM FOR CLINTON ET BUSH CLANS.

HILLARY AND HER HUSBAND MUST GIVE OBAMA BREAK TOO.

YEAH
WE MUST VOTE RESPONSIBLE

here we go again, did this not happen with Gore? And look what we ended up with. It should be deceided on VOTES not delegates

What I'd like to undestand is how come she has that many more superdelegate even from the start befor Iowa, so much so that she surpasses Obama by no less than 100 delagates when considering both super and regular delegate? And how does that ultimately matter now and in general elections? If Anyone could clarify that I would greatly apreciate it.

So it is obvious that the popular vote still does not elect a president in this country!!! It is politics that puts one in office.

I still can't understand how she won in "NA VUH DA" how ?????

I'm not entirely sure how superdelegates work, but I hope they take into account how many people within the party don't support Hillary and will likely not support her in the general election.

who is barack hussien oboma? never heard of him before .

I wonder if the nomination process will last until the convention.

Reminds me of the Matt Santos storyline in The West Wing.

The media really dropped the ball on this story. They rushed to crown Hillary Clinton the winner, with some analysts even suggesting this gave her significant momentum, but that now appears to be completely wrong. At best, it was a marginal victory for Clinton. The fairest description is that it will have little impact on the race and that we must simply move on to the next race. The only real impact it had was to knock John Edwards out of the running with his single digit performance.

this is bunch of hot air. i don't like either one of the candidates because they both will have trouble delivering on promises. the best one is not running, and that is Gore,

My question for Hillary Clinton is:

After bashing Senator Barack Obama for saying that Ronald Reagan's presidency ushered in an era of change in America, and stating that Obama liked Reagan, which Obama did not say, we now find that you, Senator Clinton in a press release dated 12/12/2007 lists Ronald Reagan as one of her favorite presidents.

Wow, why such adverse criticism regarding change?

The headline on the CNN homepage should not announce that Clinton won big in Nevada. She actually didn't win. The headline is not only misleading, it's an untruth, a falsehood, and whether intentional or not, it is manipulative.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more weird.

Then again, this is Vegas, best known for throwing away money, hookers and magic acts...

If delegates are not going to be awarded till April then Hillary won the caucases just like Obama did in Iowa .The Obama camp is wrong to say they won more delegates when he didn't even win the caucases .If thats the case Romney has the double amount of delegates then McClain but McClain is still the front runner because no delegates won't be awarded till April .The networks are just confusing the whole situtaion by not just say Clinton and Romney won the Nevada Caucases!!!!! They won the most vote alright just like Obama and Huckabee did in Iowa.The Obama camp are just sore loosers .Clinton and Edwards didn't do the delegate count in Iowa when they lost they just took the defeat and went to NewHamshire and went on .Obama get over it you lost the vote in Nevada !!!Go to South Carolina with a lost and shut up !!!!

I read that she won some of these candidates with a ... "Queen of Heart" card?

When Bill Clinton was president and she was a First LADY at home, she COULDN'T prevent him from … straying!

Now HE will be at home! Would it be presumptuous to guess what he will do to her, inside her own home, maybe even on her … bed ?!

As a woman, will SHE be able to even FUNCTION as Prez in the office for FOUR YEARS, just while who knows what happens to Bill at home…

BILL is TOO MUCH OF A LIABILITY for your President Candidate, folks! Think carefully before you vote, Clinton supporters! It's your country, your future! What will you do, when you WILL hear that story later?

This is what a lot of people seem to not understand. Popular votes do not insure a win at the national party conventions. Delagates decide. Each state has X amount of delegates. The party has super delegates, who also vote. So with that said, split votes such as Obama 13, Clinton 12, Romney 15, McCain16. It is confusing, but that is the way the game is played.
Ex: Nixon won popular, Kennedy won the election.
Ex: Gore won popular, Bush won the election.
Some have won both. We have had good/bad presidents. Until someone can come up with a better process. The process is the way it is whether we like it or not.

Since Bill is also running for President along with Hillary, Barack certainly has an unfair disadvantage. People need to stop swooning every time Bill comes around and they need to start focusing on the issues. we need some change in the WH, not the same old people.
Hillary is not well liked by a lot of the Washington uppercrust because of her methods and her rudeness and her unethical way in which she does about getting things doen. How much do you think she is going to be able to accomplish if she is President? She will have a fight on her hands every step of the way.
Barack Obama on the other hand is very well liked and respected and will certainly not have those issues to deal with.
Don't let his experience be your deciding factor in the vote. No President does it alone, they have an army of extremely well advised and experienced people at their disposal. Obama will be able to lead, Hillary will not.
Please use your heads and stop swooning over Bill. Vote Obama for President

One issue that is getting a lot of attention is Florida Democrats being punished for changing their primary date to a sooner date.
This might come back as unwelcome blow-back. Regardless of the reasoning behind the block, Americans do not like anything that resembles disenfranchisement.

Americans die and have died so that all Americans would have the freedom & right to vote and have their voice heard. It might be that many in the party and on the cusp/Independants will say, you "the party" disinfranchised Americans in certain primaries, so what makes you think you will get my vote in the general election, Some might just return the love.

OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the same thing that happens in all states that have caucuses. Hillary didn't make it an issue in Iowa, but when Obama actually tied her in the delegate count in New Hampshire and now won more delegates in Nevada, the Clinton campaign will try to persuade everyone that she didn't lose in Nevada.

I wish that all the news persons would wake up and stop making the story, but report on it. Senator Obama used the operative word "trajectory." Ronald Reagan did change the trajectory (the path of a moving particle or body) of the way some groups in America saw and did things. He (Obama) wasn't praising Reagan, but was making an observation.

lol

You can "factor in" superdelegates all you want.

And you can give overly lengthy "explanations" all you want.

Senator Obama won more delegates in Nevada than Senator Clinton. Simple as that.

we have seen the clinton machinery of lies and fabrication all along this campaign and it makes me sick. I hope all america is sick of the clintons as they are of the bushes.

Give it up, CNN. You are ruining your reputation as journalists with this sort of inaccurate and openly biased coverage. You are clearly trying to keep Obama's head above the water, when it is obvious that his campaign is stinking..oh, I mean sinking. As far as I am concerned, you are no longer a source of news; you have joined the ranks of Star, Enquirer, and any other slander rag. I am embarrassed for you.

CNN, can you say "substance"? no one reads your so-called news beyond the all telling titles.

GOOGLE Democracy Now and start from there, for straight forward information and clear insightful perspectives. they do not SPIN.

Obama!!! Respect voice of the voters.

obama will win south carolina , but then hillary will win everything else . hillary is the best person to win the general election not obama , but i tell this will end hillary as president obama as vice president you will see . why obama is not going to winn now because he just talk about change but those not .have a plan for that he said he will let he staff put all the shots this is how coprrution allways start , what he will be in the white house chilling . we need a president that is going to do the job and be a leader . not some who just going to change the furniture from the white house .

Each state election should be winners take all. Each state should have a primary that way everyone can have the opportunity to be involved.

While I understand the process of the delegates I have to say that more and more each day that Obama has the chance of winning due to the fact that it will be given to him. Could it be due to color? I would say yes, no one questions anything he says or does. For example when he made the snide remark after Hiliary said she liked Obama and is smart ellic remark "I like you enough Hillary" I mean how rude. He should have been a man and CLEARLY stated the same. Then in his last debate with him, Hillary and Edwards. He had time issues on how long someone wanted us in Iraq. First it was 18 years then he said 13 years. Come on folks his stories are so full of holes and no one goes after him. SO this leads me to believe this is a black/white issue.
I believe the Clinton campaign should challenge the Nevada delegates. I am sick of how CNN, MSNBC are bashing Hillary but dare to take a stab at the what I am speaking of well then you might be thought of as going after the balck guy. Is that why there are so many african americans on these shows then there were three years ago?
I hope she wins and neither man Edwards and Obama are her choice as second in charge.

Though everyone say's this is not about race and gender, it is about race and gender.
I do however, think gender gets beaten up. As a woman I take such offense the way the media has portrayed her. She is the first woman to run and Obama the first black to run. We will all gravitate toward the one we match. Obama has the black vote, Hillary has the woman's vote, but she also has some black and many Latino supporters.

Since Senator Obama did win the most delegates in Nevada, does that not make him the winner? Needless to say, I am perplexed at CNN's and other MSM not reporting this as a Senator Obama win.

I think we shoud do away with the electoral votes and the popular vote wins the election

So if we don't know who will have won the most delegates, but at present it looks like its Obama, why does the main headline at CNN blare "Big victories for Clinton..."?

And since she tied in the delegate counts in NH and Michigan (at 0), why is she listed as the winner in those states?

Gee, I wonder what horse CNN is betting on?

You guys are beginning to look like Fox.

No matter how much CNN will try to deny it or read into it... Hillary Clinton is the winner! She will continue to win more states, including California and it will be all over. She will get the Democratic nomination!

Coop, here is the stright scoop; Obama, (Oh, Bomb U.S), clandestine, Muslim, hybrid, just wherein out that feel sorry for me colored race card. Wilders', Oprahs' and the unions in sin city endorsements mean zilch, so what, a bag of cotton for a bag of cotton support, who cares. Also, a so called new message of hope, reconciliation and change from a (Oh Bomb U.S.) Muslim; sounds more like a revised page out of Martin Luther’s King’s playbook. Hey, call me Obama I will debate your racist and bigot views any time any place. This is a black and white race to the White House and that is the truth but, everyone wants to be politically correct and that is politics as usual. Yes, Obama, AKA (Oh Bomb U.S.) he has himself made the election in 2008 a racial issue, dishonor on him.

Hillary is spreading falsehoods in black church speeches claiming that she was for the civil rights movement when in fact she was against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

GOOGLE: 'Hillary Against Civil Rights Act'.....Learn the Facts.....Then tell her to stop lying in black churches about her past !!!

Your friendly editor from Iowa here. Please check the caption under your pic of Hillary and Obama for this piece.

The fact is media including CNN completely try to overestimate Clintons and eliminate Barack Obama from his real place indirectly and directly.

None of the candidates can match Ron Pauls conservative record, integrity and support for the constitution and his consistant track record with no flip flops. During his 20 years in Congress Ron Paul has never taken a government-paid junket, has never voted himself a pay raise, and does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget or to raise taxes, or to allow the govt. to spend our Social Security Fund money on other govt. expenses. He is a Statesman with integrity, who walks the talk. Paul, a veteran has received more donations from the troops then any other candidate. He served his country as a Flight Surgeon in the Air Force for 5 years. He voted against the war in Iraq, instead urged Congress to hunt down the terrorists responsible fo 9/11. Ron Paul will bring out troops home immediately to protect our national security and our borders here at home. Ron Paul is a Christian with true Christian values. He is not like other Christians who are warmongers, who support illegal pre-emptive wars, torture, and the killing of hundreds of thousand of innocent Iraqis. We owe nearly 10 trillion dollars, and continue to borrow money from China and others for this illegal war. We are virtually bankrupt. Ron Paul voted against the Real ID card, and the Patriot Act which violates are consitutional rights. He will restore habeas Corpus and our constitutional rights. As it stands, the Miltary Commission act and recent Presidential Executive Orders give the President the power to arrest any U.S. citizen, (anti war journalists, war protestors, etc), take their property and put them in jail WITHOUT the right of due process. Wake Up America. Save the Republic, vote for Ron Paul.

Interesting. This is the way they do it in a lot of states, too. I suppose it makes sense–each place is electing their own delegate. So if Clinton gets 100% of the vote somewhere, and Obama gets 51% of the vote somewhere else, they still get 1 delegate apiece, since each place is electing a delegate. Kinda like sending a mayor to a convention.

I think I'd agree with that rule, too. I like it.

It's not complicated
Obama won more delegates.
Period.