Myrtle Beach, South Carolina (CNN) – Supporters of Barack Obama in South Carolina said Monday that in the past day, black voters across the state have received biased polling phone calls, sometimes known as “push polls,” which they say are favorable to Hillary Clinton and distort Obama’s record.
Columbia city councilwoman Tamika Isaac Devine, an Obama supporter, said she received such a phone call Sunday night.
“[The caller] asked for the female in the household,” she told CNN, “then they asked my race.” Devine said the caller then launched into a series of positive statements about Clinton and negative statements about Obama, asking how each one affected her vote.
That included a direct comparison of Obama to President Bush. “They said that Barack Obama doesn’t want to be an operational president,” Devine recounted, “and they said he doesn’t want to manage things well, like George W. Bush.”
She said the calls also played on perceived African-American dislike of former President Ronald Reagan and Obama’s recent remarks about Reagan. “They asked, ‘Would you be more willing to vote for a candidate that thinks Ronald Reagan was a more transforming president than Bill Clinton?”
This comes after Obama told a newspaper that, “Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not.”
On Saturday, the campaign sent reporters what it said was a recording of a Nevada robo-call received by a supporter, in which the caller repeatedly emphasized Obama’s middle name, Hussein, and said the senator lied when he said he did not take money from special interest groups and lobbyists.
State Rep. Todd Rutherford, an Obama supporter, said Monday the South Carolina campaign was receiving reports of similar calls.
–CNN Radio Correspondent Lisa Desjardins
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This really does not suprise me. The Clintons throw a rock and then hide their hands. I really feel for Obama because he is not running against Hillary, he is running against the Hillary machine, starring Bill Clinton. I already know what will happen-posters will claim that Obama is a crybaby and that this is just the media bashing Clinton. Bashing her like what-that mass right-winged conspiracy did?
When will people recognize that Billary Clinton is running a campaign that would make Karl Rove proud ??? It makes me sick. I'm truly embarrassed how supportive I was of Bill as president.... and Hillary when she first announced she was running for POTUS.
Bill Clinton, within the last 24 hours has been called out by Jim Clyburn (publicly), Rahm Emanuel and TED KENNEDY to back off with his DISHONEST, baseless attacks on Obama. The discussion between Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy was "heated". When politicians tell other politicians…especially PUBLICLY….that they've crossed the line and to "chill"…it must be perceived as VERY BAD behavior. Bill Clinton is the one disgraced.
This is the kind of thing republicans do. While I am not against Hillary, I am for Obama. He is Christian. Anyone with a brain in their head would know that Obama was not praising Reagan, but stating a fact.
yes, Clinton has no decency!
These tactics are so appalling, they're disgusting! Who's ever behind this needs to be sued up the wahzoo for slander.
Nice... leave it to the Clinton's to defame, deface, and debunk their primary contender. Funny you don't hear any of these calls coming from the Obama side. What happened to integrity? Did that disappear with Bush – Clinton – Bush legacy?
Sounds like a page right out of the Karl Rove handbook for destroying your political opposition.
CNN is really doing a good job at making their case for Obama. The reporting has indeed been one-sided in favor of Obama!
It just goes to show that while the Obama campaign takes the high road the Clinton campaign continues to engage in divisive politics.
I can't believe the Clinton camp does not realize that this only divides the party and serves no one but the GOP.
We need to stop the infighting and focus on getting the best Democratic nominee regardless of race, gender, or perceived birth right so we can take back the White House and take back our country.
Go Obama '08
As Obama says, this is the (old) way the Clintons are going to lead the US.
Say it ain't so. The Clinton's are honest and have integrity in everything they do.
Except when it comes to politics, and everything else.
I have always voted for the Democratic Party but if Hillary Clinton is the Nominee I will vote independent in the General election. I have always liked Bill Clinton but I am disgusted at the irty politics that they are using in the primaries. I hope independents and Democrats that hate dirty tactics will vote for the other candidates. Let us hear the Democrats against Hillary and dirty politics. No more Clintons or Bush in the White House. Are we Americans so Dumb that or we have only two families that we can choose or President from within the last few years. Let us make a CHANGE FROM BUSH AND CLINTON, that is the real change americans deserve.
I am not surprised, the BILLARY campaing will do whatever it takes to get to power. I am just so discusted and disgusted with the way the Clintons feel so entitle to the presidency of this country and how they will resort to whatever is needed to get there. So far they have attacked not only all democrats, but also Senator Obama's cultural heritage, religion, work in congress, work in the community, are creating division between AA voters, and among the party.
I for one, as a woman, an immigrant, a mother, a voter, an educated person, and independent, will never vote for Hillary. The Republicans will get my vote if Hillary is the Dems nominee. I know I am not alone in this ..............
It is time to see how this will look,
CLINTON, BUSH, BUSH, CLINTON (Hillary) CLINTON, (Chelsea)
I am discusted about Clintons' political as usual_
I just hope that people see throught the game and see t heir true colors, this is not about politics, race, gender, economics and other issues only, it is about making changes for our children, their children and the future of a better America and a better world.
The Clintons made not changes in 35 why would they do it now?
by the way I want to know who is running : BILL OR HILL? or both?
I'm not surprised by this. Im disappointed but not surprised. The Clinton's ambition and thirst for power surpass any desire for decency. Cheating, lying..it doesnt matter. So long as the end result is Clinton's back in the White House. Power is like a drug when it comes to the Clintons.
The good news is true power resides in the hands of the voters. My hope and prayer is that they are smart and discerning. Obama is truly what is right for America at this defining moment in time. The Clintons just want..well..more power. They care little about us.
I sincerely hope what happened in Nevada does not happen in South Carolina. There is a conspiracy to denigrate and emasculate Barack Obama's candidacy for President. Our campaign office called caucus attendees to inform them of their caucus sites for January 19th. I spent numerous weeks calling individuals and canvassing our area to inform people about the date and the place of the caucus.
Nevertheless, on the day of the caucus, there were no Precinct signs supporting our canvassing or volunteer calls. When I arrived at my Precinct, the Republican caucus goers were still on the site. They were Republican placards and signs for Hillary Clinton. There were no Obama signs or placards. I received a text message that no signs should be posted outside the caucus site.
It took several minutes for the Obama Precinct Captains to find their site. I know this, because I called several Precincts I knew and received similar comments from them. As a result, we were not able to follow the agenda. People were very distraught and disappointed. Some walked out and some went over to the Hillary camp. Others did not give up until they were escorted to the right precinct.
Former President Clinton and his daughter, Chelsea went to the strip and gave the culinary workers posters and placards of Hillary. He used intimidation to gain their confidence and further stated, "You do not have to support Obama, because your Union reps are supporting him." The Hispanic attendees listened to him and changed their support.
My final point: The Democratic Party in Nevada was very hostile to Obama supporters and openingly displayed their venomous attitudes when we picked up our scarce supplies. There was a shortage of voter registration forms and the Preferential Ballot cards. It was maddening. The votes were tallied and the winning decision was made, before the caucus had terminated in most precincts. People were locked out, before 12 noon and some doors were never opened. I am warning you to not believe the hype and negative info that is being bombared in your state. I know Obama won Nevada. He influenced the people to believe again. The town hall meetings were never distorted with the evil "race" card that the media wants you to believe. I saw grown men and women crying. "Truth crushed to earth shall rise again," [Malcolm X] used to preach. I am so outraged with the misconceptions, lies and false images the Clinton machinery is using to tear down the faith we have for change. The dream is alive and will not die!
Hillary Hates Cats
So I would not be surprised if she is behind this, or as usuall her supports that do her dirty work.
Might I recommend that someone investigate Hillaryis44.com for insight into what is going on here. This site has people posting scripts that say exactly what has happened here. Just saying...it's a little bit interesting and a little too coincidental.
Folks if you haven't figured it out yet the status quo (Clinton's) and their notorious crooked campaign machine will do ANYTHING to get the nomination. You better take a deep look at what they are doing to the Democratic party. The Elephants are licking there chops if the Hill and Bill show get the nod.
Wake up America. I don't care if your white, black, asian, latino or gender oriented, this is dirty politics at a time when the United States needs to get it together. What are we leaving for our kids, grandkids and on and on.
This is absolute BS!!!!!!
I sincerely hope what happened in Nevada does not happen in South Carolina. There is a conspiracy to denigrate and emasculate Barack Obama's candidacy for President. Our campaign office called caucus attendees to inform them of their caucus sites for January 19th. I spent numerous weeks calling individuals and canvassing our area to inform people about the date and the place of the caucus.
Nevertheless, on the day of the caucus, there were no Precinct signs supporting our canvassing or volunteer calls. When I arrived at my Precinct, the Republican caucus goers were still on the site. They were Republican placards and signs for Hillary Clinton. There were no Obama signs or placards. I received a text message that no signs should be posted outside the caucus site.
It took several minutes for the Obama Precinct Captains to find their site. I know this, because I called several Precincts I knew and received similar comments from them. As a result, we were not able to follow the agenda. People were very distraught and disappointed. Some walked out and some went over to the Hillary camp. Others did not give up until they were escorted to the right precinct.
Former President Clinton and his daughter, Chelsea went to the strip and gave the culinary workers posters and placards of Hillary. He used intimidation to gain their confidence and further stated, "You do not have to support Obama, because your Union reps are supporting him." The Hispanic attendees listened to him and changed their support.
My final point: The Democratic Party in Nevada was very hostile to Obama supporters and openingly displayed their venomous attitudes when we picked up our scarce supplies. There was a shortage of voter registration forms and the Preferential Ballot cards. It was maddening. The votes were tallied and the winning decision was made, before the caucus had terminated in most precincts. People were locked out, before 12 noon and some doors were never opened. I am warning you to not believe the hype and negative info that is being bombared in your state. I know Obama won Nevada. He influenced the people to believe again. The town hall meetings were never distorted with the evil "race" card that the media wants you to believe. I saw grown men and women crying. "Truth crushed to earth shall rise again," [Malcolm X] used to preach. I am so outraged with the misconceptions, lies and false images the Clinton machinery is using to tear down the faith we have for change. The dream is alive and will not die!
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so what did they say that was untrue?
And just how independent would be the judgement of Pres. H.Clinton with Pres.
B. Clinton looking over her shoulder every day. Would she post Harry Truman's sign, "The buck stops here" on her desk, or one reading " What would Bill do"?
I would never vote Obama! Clinton -08; Or any republican....
Unless Tamika Devine can prove otherwise, I'll bet she's lying about that call!
Lies lies lies comng from black Obama supporters no less!
Sen Obama, who happens to be a brilliant academic, is exactly right in his assessment that Reagan ‘changed the trajectory of America’ in a way that others did not. During the course of my graduate study, we did in-depth studies of the dramatic results of the Reagan-Thatcher regimes. Sen Obama was simply highlighting the fact that it was a considerably divergent and novel path.
It is rather unfortunate that Bill would manipulate the nature of what was said to utilize it as a divisive tool.
The fact that Sen Obama is able to offer fair analyses of aspects of our political history speaks volume.
The Clinton's are shameless. They are showing time and time again that they will say and do anything to win.
If she wins the nomination I'm voting for Bloomberg.
Horrible, but typical. I hope they get to the bottom of who is behind these smear tactics–???
By the way Justice Watch has just released new Clinton documents from the Clinton library about the Commitee for Health Care that HRC chaired. Would recommend that everyone takes a look at least to educate themselves on this information whether you like the Clinton's or not. You can find them at the Justice Watch website.
It's time for the people in America to step up and demand that the word race be eliminated from all documents and from identifying us as a certain group. We are all people, we all breath in and out, we all bleed red blood. It appears to me that some of the media is more interested in keeping this country divided then bringing it together.
It's time that you all grow up and look where our country is headed. When is the last time you bought something that said made in America?
If we can't come together as a people, then the American dream will continue to be a road side bomb.
Is Bill Clinton running for president again? I see him more often than Hillary.
I'm tired of seeing a Bush-Clinton-Bush and hopefully not another Clinton, does it mean that Jeff will be the next Bush.....
I guess the choice still remains America Old politics or New politics, you chose...
Sen Obama, who happens to be a brilliant academic, is exactly right in his assessment that Reagan ‘changed the trajectory of America’ in a way that others did not. During the course of my graduate study, we did in-depth studies of the dramatic results of the Reagan-Thatcher regimes. Sen Obama was simply highlighting the fact that it was a considerably divergent and novel path.
It is rather unfortunate that Bill would manipulate the nature of what was said to utilize it as a divisive tool.
The fact that Sen Obama is able to offer fair analyses of aspects of our political history speaks volume.
Oh and 1971 guy and Ginny–are you serious? Why don't you do a little research on the Clintons. Of course by the sounds of your comments I question whether you are interested in educating yourselves or if you would just rather walk blindly into the fire.
The only lying I've seen lately has come directly from the Clinton camp. Oh but we're use to that aren't we. After all, they're past liars, present liars, and certain to be future liars!
I am starting to think the Clintons are mentally unstable "sick people". Disgraceful is an understatement.
You Clinton lovers want this scum in office ?
Hilary versus Obama
1) Experience
Hilary – 7 years
Obama – 11 years
2) Academics credentials
Hilary – ordinary pass (Yale Law); failed Washington bar exam
Obama – Magma cum laude graduate (Harvard Law)
3) Claim to fame
Hilary – married to Bill
Obama – Keynote speaker at 2004 Democratic convention and author of 2 bestselling books
4) Main strength
Hilary – Bill
Obama – brilliant, eloquent scholar with extraordinary organizational and leadership skills
5) Main weakness
Hilary – Mediocre leadership skills including flawed approach (disingenuousness, entitled, ruthless and power-hungry)
Obama – African parentage
OMG..Where in this article did it say Hillary was behind this? WHERE?
South Carolina has always had this problem. To blame Hillary as if she is responsible for this is just plain out unjustified. You Obama cult members will try and blame Hillary for anything. GROW UP!!
I thoroughly disappointed with former President Clinton's attempts to denigrate and emasculate Obama's character and career.
Dr. Ellen S. Ringer
Las Vegas, NV
All this whining by Obama proves he is not strong enough to be our Commander in Chief! Nobody has taken more personal attacks than Hillary Clinton and she just keeps going on. Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.
Also, why is nobody saying how unimportant S. Carolina is??????? I've said this over and over.... Jesse Jackson won S. Carolina in the primaries when he was running for president. Where did it get him? The media loves to stir up trouble.
Guess what happened in Nevada..There was a radio ad in Spanish trashing Hillary and Obama did NOTHING about it. Even after the court case was over. SO, good for whoever is doing this. How does it feel Obama?
Neither Obama nor Clinton can win the general election if the democrats are divided. Its very sad to see the mentality that if their candidate lose one eye then the opponent should lose both the eyes! its time to move away from Karl Rove politics and Bush diplomacy. If the voters are dumb enough to believe all these push polling then its their problem. Support your candidate in primary, if he or she doesn't win then lets elect a democrat in general election whoever it might be.
Vote Democrat 2008!
OBAMA = divider....
Lies and distortion need to be legally challenged. The Clintons have always beat the legal system, Hillary as well as Bill, and now they know there are no legal boundaries for them. Voters need to hold them responsible for their lies and distortion by saying NO, that's the only legal ground we have to stand on.
Memories of the Clintons have improved with age like a bad vacation. These people were a disaster in the White House. The old Clintons have just begun to raise their dirty, nasty little heads. You REALLY don't want four more years of these lying (no sex?), cheating (how many women?), dishonest (ever hear of White Water?) disasters looking for a place to happen, do you? I am a true Independent voter and proud of it, but the only person I know that I would vote against, is another Clinton. Please people, I am tired of voting "against" presidental candidates – give me someone I can BELIEVE in!!!
Hang in there Obama supporters throughout South Carolina – Hillary is making it worse on herself and Bill is not too much help to her, either.
I am supporting Obama and I do believe he can rise above Hillary and her supporters and, he has never stooped down to Hillary's level during his campaign trading barbs and insults. Obama is a man and has handled himself in a very professional way. Hillary cannot answer questions head-on and she skirts the majority of the issues that has been brought before her. In other words, she speaks in circles – never completes a detailed and accurate sentence. Once in a blue moon she might get in a complete sentence, one that is well versed and practiced.
Obama is leading a good campaign against Hillary and as long as Bill is out there flapping his jaws, I am positive some of the Hillary supporters will realize how deceiful the Clintons are and move over to support Obama.. Hillary speaks and then she thinks – not very smart.
You will never hear Obama slander Hillary – Obama is more of a man, how come Hilllary is NO lady?
GO, OBAMA, GO.
Hillary will cook her own silly goose before it's over with. I am glad that CNN is one-sided and is favoring Obama – enough is enough about Hillary and her below the belt tactic to make a run for the White House. VOTE HER OUT!! Hannity on Fox News is no Hillary lover, either.
Shame on Billary for these underhanded tactics.
Barack Obama takes the moral high road. He's humble, honest and he is for real. He inspires his supporters to be the same. Obama is the one candidate that can unite us, not divide us.
Vote Barack Obama '08
Yikes! Secretly-funded negative capaigning by the establishment candidate. Who could see THAT coming? What's next? Racial politics?
when will someone call them on this???
obama is my choice, but he needs to man up...
Q: How can you tell the Clintons are spreading lies about Barack Obama?
A: Their lips are moving.
If the Billary campaign continues and she wins by dirty tactics...ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL STAY HOME IN NOVEMBER....
Obama is making his point. Signiicant changes in policy always require changes in political culture (rhetoric and tactics). Reagan, as Obama, points out successully did this. He got his policies through and instiutionalized by changing the rhetoric and tone and coopting the opposition. Clinton failed to do so, which is why most of his initiatives failed (e.g. health care reform) and his successes (raising taxes on the wealthiest and closing the deficit) were erased. It's as if he had never been there.
Clinton got too caught up in the slash and burn politics of Bush 41 and still is. Bottom line: Reagan's VP was elected and continued his policies. Clinton was succeeded, not by his VP, but the Bush 41's son, borge W. Bush, a bigger Reaganite than Reagan, both in substance and style.
Real change requires a change in direction and in culture. Obama is different from HRC primarily in the latter. But that may be more important in the end. HRC, if nominated, may not be elected and, if elected, may not get anything anydone. The best defefnse for Obama against Clinton-Bush slash and burn is to make these points.
I said I would keep posting until it is displayed. CNN continues its bias support of Obama and won't post pro-Clinton comments.
WOW, here we go. CNN is not getting the tide to turn for Obama like they thought they would out of all the "RACE" issues, so now they want to sling mud at the Clinton campaign for "unethical" push-polling. Keep it up CNN, you just might succeed in not only getting the RIGHT candidate (Senator Clinton) elected, but also getting your true colors as PUNDITS recognized. I thought this was a NEWS agency, but the more I read and view, I understand there is a true underlying motivation for what you "report" and what you don't!!
Again, this probably will be moderated out of view, but I will continue to post until it appears
I was so happy to read the message posted by Dr. Ellen S. Ringer and agree on everything she had to say about the caucus held in Nevada. I had just written about this subject on another ticker and was surprised to see what she had to say about the caucus here in Las Vegas. My husband and I attended the caucas at John Fremont Middle School and our daughter and her husband attended one at Western High School. Both sites catered to the Clinton supporters. There was Hillary signs galore posted in the medium along the street and every table that we were sent to was run and operated by none other than the Clinton supporters. A male extended his hand to shake my son-in-law's hand but quickly withdrew his hand when my son-in-law told him 'no" I am not here for Hillary. I, like Dr. Ringer, feel the whole entire Caucus thing was a set-up deal to divert attention away from the other contenders that were running for President.
In the gym where the supporters were doing the caucus, I observed Clinton supporters sitting in the middle of the gym while both Obama and Edwards' supporters had to sit to the far left or right side of the gym. The "undecided" were forced to sit in the bleachers that were not near the Clinton supporters. Frankly, it did not feel like a caucus, nor did it feel like I was there to express my isupport for Obama it felt more like we were at the Clinton's Democratic Headquarters.
I left before the caucus were taken because I could not hear a word one of Hillary's supporters were saying – she couldn't stand in the middle area so all could hear, she had to go all the way down to the end where the supporters for Clinton were seated. Those of us supporting Obama had to yell at her to please speak up. She never made an attempt to speak louder nor did she try to move to an area where everyone could hear either. I left because 1) I couldn't hear ( I am hearing impaired) 2) the speaker asked the Obama's supporters to move closer to the center of the gym (we had to stand) putting everyone next to Clinton's supporters and ,3) I left because I am very short and standing behind all the tall people never gave me a chance to see or hear the Clinton supporter speaker. I tore off my name and ripped the ballot into several pieces and threw it on the table where the Clintinites were and left the building in tears.
That whole set-up left me disturbed for the remainder of the day and night. I actually could not sleep and tossed and turned all night with that in my mind. Yes, I agree with Dr. Ringer, the whole entire caucus was one-sided but, I do believe in my whole heart that Obama will preside over Hillary. If you are a Christian, please pray for Obama. If you are not a Christian, then please listen to Bill and Hillary and what they are doing to gain votes. Get educated on the political scene and listen to (in my case I read the caption) what the Clintons are doing. Get on the Internet and check out what the Washington Post has to say about the Clintons when Bill was in the White House. Over the years, one has a tendency to forgot what it was like when Bill was president, get informed and I guarantee you will not become a Hillary supporter.
The Culinary Union thing was a fiasco and it all came about because of the Clintons, too. Hillary whined because she felt it was unfair for the hotels to do their own caucus – it goes to court, the hotels win and open up rooms for the caucus. There are over 60,000 Culinary Union members alone, did Hillary get 1/2 of these votes. No, she did not she just got over 2600 votes, that's not even a drop in the bucket. I think the Culinary workers were turned off by her and refused to attend the caucus. Mitt Rommey got over 12,000 votes – that is a lot more than what Hillary got. I understand Obama had 13 delagates from NV and Hillary got only 12. That's good new and I hang my lady's hat on that.
One last thing, yes, Obama is young, yes, Obama is inexperienced, but don't be fooled, the presidential advisors will help and guide Obama. Obama will learn how to function on his own as each day passes. Don't forget one thing, everyone has to be trained to their new position and Obama will be trained. Alll the presidents had to be trained since it is a whole new ballgame from being a Senator or Congressman.
Thank you Dr. Ringer for all your hard work and for bringing this to the attention of the readers on this ticker. I appreciate it very much.
We want real CHANGE no more slander, no lies. PLEASE!! America needs this!
WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE!...LET US SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE STRONGER UNITED..OBAMA FOR CHANGE.
Thats my two cents.. one love!
THIS IS AGAIN A DIRTY STUNT BY OBAMA SUPPORTERS TO DISCREDIT THE CLINTONS..
Why Dont we demand as citizens and voters that all candidates for federal
and state political office be investigated by the FBI, for background and activities
from adult to applying for office.
We must fill out a request that is subject to scrutiny and verification, so must all civil service and military applicants. Further,
we should demand that none take any donations from lobbyist.
When can our vote count rather than the electorial college choosing our winner?
Thank you for directing this to all the candidates for President.
A person that "fights dirty", will eventually sweep their dust under the carpet when it begins to pile up. Referring to Ms Clinton – her negativity negates what she claims to be a move toward positive change. She is her own contradiction. Her style is one of strongarm, potshots, and powerplays. She is like the teacher that reminds her students all day what they will and won't do in HER CLASSROOM.
Obama, on the other hand, has the same effect as a teacher who gives his students ownership of the classroom, thereby inspiring their desire for sucess.
What does the picture prove?
I am for Obama all the way because he is telling the truth on his issues,
While clinton seem too not tell the truth on her issues.
Obama Volunteer = Clinton Volunteer. Thanks for the photoshop and keeping Clinton politics alive. Your scum cannot reach a low point.
This has gotten out of hand. The Clinton team will result to almost anything. I am starting to think that they are evil. Nuff said.
I am shocked by the smears and dirty words against Hillary and Bill. They have been attacked again and again since Day One. But they are strong and still going and going. Would you have a strong leader, or someone so inexperienced? If Obama is a tested and proven leader, I will vote him, too. But he is not. He needs to grow up. We are electing a president who can do America and Americans good in tough times, not a scholoar!
WOW, Volunteer, the moderators must have fallen asleep for that to have gotten by them. This truly shows a side of their "chosen one" that they would not want people to see, if that is even a real picture. Looks a bit altered to me, and does not even look like Obama. I am not an Obama supporter, but that picture is a stretch even for me.
yes for OBAMA he could the best President the US.
Sen OBAMA is very strong when to face Repuplicain he is very smart good.he is not running for black only but all.
Let's not forget that John Adams represented the
British soldiers after the Boston Massacre & they were
acquitted!!! Perhaps Barack Obama's situation was
similar when he represented those businessmen in Chicago.
Tonight's debate was exhilerating. I am convinced that Obama is our man. He displays honesty and character. Unlike Hillary who repeatedly try to discount him.
People of America open your eyes and see the truth. Both Hillary and Pres. Clinton's desire is to return to the white house which is not happening.
We are intelligent enough to see the plots, plans, and schemes set up by the Clintons.
Go Obama! I support you all the way.
I believe the people of South Carolina, no matter what their race or gender, can remember a past president who went on TV and looked America straight in the face and told the American people a bold face lie. I lived in South Carolina at the time and worked for the United States Air Force. I believed the man-as a proud American citizen I did not believe our President would do that if it were not true. I was fooled then but won't be fooled again!!!
If Obama does not get the nomination I will vote independent!!!!!!!
Anyone who is familiar with or has become familiar with the Clintons' tactics knows what we are up against. This is why after a debate like tonight, you need to continue pledging (either through donations or getting the word out) your support for Obama. CNN gives Hilary more favorable camera time after each debate. Understand, she is far more in line with corporate interests, and so this is going to be the case EVERY TIME. She is part of the machine.
Obama has not willingly been involved in any mudslinging. He has no choice but to respond to these inaccurate and ridiculous allegations. The term "slum lord" is a nice sound byte that the Clintons know will get air time. They know suggesting that Obama sat along the sidelines for 130 or so bills will be discussed. Obama was as masterful in this debate as he could have been. He says everything I have been waiting to hear for at least a decade. Yet all the media wanted to talk about after the debate was how they were going after each other.
Seriously, the only way to beat the Hilary Machine is to build a stronger one. We've got the best person in Barack, but to match up we've still got to provide a lot of support. We need to do every little thing we can to put Barack Obama in the White House.
NO BODY BELIEVES IT! IS DAVID AXELROD MAKING CALLS
HOW MANY DIAPERS WAS BARRY CHANING WHILE WORKING FULL TIME AS AN ATTORNEY AND AT THE SAME TIME BREAST FEEDING HER KIDS IN ORDER TO SUPPORT HER HUSBAND?!
If Edwards doesn't get the nomination I will vote Republican (Ron Paul), probably a wasted vote. Unfortunately I think the U.S. and the world are both tired of having a white male president screw things up. It's not popular to be a white male anymore.
I for one will vote for the best candidate to win the democratic nomination and also the American Presidency and that person is Hillary Clinton...
Of course Obama did lie when he said he does not take lobbying money. Push polls are bad but he should tell the truth.
IF McCain wins the rep. nomination, he will be able to attrack independents, and maybe some democrates.
So let see who will be the best democratic candidate to beat McCain.
1. Hillary does not attrack independents and republicans.
2. John Edwards, well I donot know which block he is attacking.
3. Barack Obama, attracks independents, republicans
Democate can only beat the republicans by attracking independents
I see everyone is rushing to the hate Hillary comments again without even knowing the veracity of the calls. This is South Carolina remember and all the robocalls that republicans put out on behalf of Huckabee. If SC has as dirty politics as has been reported, then might we assume as a good as blame Hillary, that some republicans aren't funding this knowing that the blame would be flung immediately at Hillary. I honestly can't see the Clinton campaign stooping to this level of robocalls when people have been able to trace other robocalls to the company doing them or who has been paying. The Clintons may be shrewd campaigners but they are not stupid ones.
As for Bill Clinton
,. "his speech is as smooth as butter, yet war is in his heart; his words are more soothing than oil, yet they are drawn swords (Psalm 55:21)."
Hilary's TruthSpeak sounds like Big Brother, or ... Big Sister, vin. 1948, er, um "1984."
To Obama Volunteer...
You have LOST it. BTW nice work with photoshop...Go get a life
I would bet this is more of a Rove tactic. Come on Democrats. Don't bite the bait!
The truth hurts. How about the ads Obama is running in Florida, violating the pledge that no campaigning in Michigan or Florida? What's up with that?
Sen Obama, who happens to be a brilliant academic, is exactly right in his assessment that Reagan ‘changed the trajectory of America’ in a way that others did not. During the course of my graduate study, we did in-depth studies of the dramatic results of the Reagan-Thatcher regimes. Sen Obama was simply highlighting the fact that it was a considerably divergent and novel path.
It is rather unfortunate that Bill would manipulate the nature of what was said to utilize it as a divisive tool.
The fact that Sen Obama is able to offer fair analyses of aspects of our political history speaks volume.
I'll be voting for Barack on Feb 5th! Simply post the words "I'm for Barack on the 5th" if you agree with me!! It will really show people how strong we are in our movement against lies and distortion and FOR the people of the USA
It seems the Obama camp has something new every single day to complain about especially about Hillary's campaign! Listen this is politics not a high school election so get over it and grow up Obama camp. If people want Obama as President he will be voted in nothing can stop their vote! I for one can't stand all the Obama this, Obama that give someone else a chance, I'm sick of hearing about him and his immature (or his camp) complaints. The media is covering Obama WAY too much but then again media and fair as never gone hand and hand! And no I'm proudly NOT voting for Obama! Good luck America!!!!
Obama Volunteer,
What in the hell! You don't honestly expect a crop and drop image to steer people into that lie.
I'm so surprised that so many of you people that post here are so stupid...look if you dont like hillary dont vote for her its just that simple...how can you say shes dishonest? state the facts if you know any....I for one remember when Bill was president.. we in AMERICA was doing pretty darn good...we could travel from state to state without worry about finding a job...We could go to other countries and people would admire us because we was from AMERICA...Now other countries hate us because of how this country is run....You wanted change and voted in BUSH which in turn distroyed America. and now you have forgotten the good old days when bill was president huh?....It has come to my believe that 90% of you are Republicans trying to bring down the only man that i can remember in my lifetime(i'm 62) that really cared about us and AMERICA...Now youre trying your best to distroy the clintons...Its such a shame what short memories people have...yes Bill had an affair but he looked out for us and our country....he did nothing compared to George and Dick leading OUR country astray but so few of you will even admit that we are in a complete mess and it will take a STRON leader again with experence to get us on our feet again...Obama will be a good leader someday but its not the time to hand our country over to a on the job trainee....people this is the most important election i can remember so its time you thought long and hard before you vote for someone......My best advice is vote for Hillary coz with Bill as an advisor our country will stand proud and tall again.
BILLARY 08
I don't think there's anything wrong with the questions Hillary asked last night about Obama's record, obviously the media does'nt seemed concerned, seems like there should be someone who has got the !!!!! to ask these questions. If Hillary would have just stood there and not given a response-the news reporters would have said she not standing her ground, but then when she does they have not so positive comments. If Hillary's anything like some of the women I know she not about to let these men or any man for that matter walk all over her, so what her husband Bill is campaigning for her, would you expect him to do anything else. It seems to me people in this country are forgetting what a great president Bill Clinton was, so is his wife who was right there with him and so she will be are next great president, I have no doubt in my mind. It just seems to me that Obama has always got a reason why he did this or that, why can't the same thing apply to Hillary, we all know that Bush lied to everyone about Saddam, that's why she voted the way she did...Obama would have done the same. YOU IN THE NEWS MEDIA NEED TO START ASKING OBAMA TOUGHER QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF MAKING HIM OUT TO BE SOMETHING THAT HE IS NOT......
It has been well documented that both Barach Obama and Hillary are gifted scholars and articulate individuals, so no need to debate their educational backgrounds.
Hillary Clinton's record is longer in years and has shown consistent passion and support for family and children's issues. She had an international best seller as an author ("It Takes A Village") the proceeds of which (over a million dollars) were donated to children's causes across America.
Hillary Clinton has been an effective voice in the Senate and re-elected for a second term with a 67% majority. You may not agree with her but she always makes her position known.
As far as the Clinton years in the White House, America was left in a great position economically and Hillary Clinton gained worldwide respect , traveling around the globe on behalf of women and children's rights. Her advocacy for health benefits for EVERYONE began many years ago, well before it became a popular issue with the other candidates.
All the Democratic candidates are qualified but Hillary Clinton has the most experience and proven record. Elect her and you will see how much a woman can do to bring this country back to prosperity and respect in the world community.
Obama has his own renecks – just look at his supporters in Nevada.
pot kettle and black come to mind.
I voted for Bill twice (I'm incredibly ashamed to admit). If Hillary gets the nomination, after the disgraceful way they've acted, I fully intend to give JOhn McCain my vote.
Of the three in last night's debate, Edwards appeared to be the most "presidential" - calm and collected. Since just before Nevada's caucuses, Obama & Clinton have been "playing dirty" with their ad campaigns, and now there's this nasty "push-polling" in S.C. (Sheesh!) ...Edwards stands out as the mature grown up alongside two arguing teenagers.
In last night's debate Edwards was strong when he needed to be, but he never lost his cool like the other two did. Edwards ideas for healthcare, the economy, the war, etc., sounded the clearest, and best thought-out. I just feel that Edwards has the most integrity and insight (vision) of all the candidates.
I also believe that EDWARDS is THE ONE that can best take on McCain across the U.S. (or Romney, if things should go that weird way.)
Barak Obama and his campaign staff are getting desperate after 2 straight defeats to Hillary Clinton. From the beginning of his campaign he's done nothing but attack Hillary Clinton and NOT John Edwards to try and get rid of her because she's been the front runner for a very long time. And primarily on past voting in the Senate. But what do people know about his voting past. Not much. Hillary Clinton exposed some of his voting patterns last night in the debate when she talked about his many undecisive votes in the Illinois legislature. Furthermore, what's wrong with working for Walmart? Would Obama refuse to work for a large company if he were asked? I doubt it! Hillary Clinton has been talking about her efforts to improve health care, the economy and getting our troups out of Irak very soon among other topics that concern all Americans. In December Hillary Clinton was not spending her time attacking Obama or the other candidates. Barak Obama built his campaign on attacks in December. And it has become much worse in January. Now Hillary Clinton has no choice but to respond to Obama's attacks to defend herself as anyone would. It's clear that Barak Obama has, from the beginning, consistently used negative campaigning tactics. He hopes that Americans will see him as a white knight in shining armour but you would have to be naive to believe that!
Carefull jumping to conclusions... the press is having a love affair with Obama right now. And, they know that anything negative about the Clintons is good press. As soon as public sentiment starts going contrary to this, they'll flip all the stories around. I wish they would just report what is right and fair and stop going after what "sticks to the wall". Then again, they are a business and have to make $$.
I am scared to death that this division in our party is going to bring about another disaster of having a Republican president. Support your candidate, shutup with the negativity...Billary this, Obama is a muslim that....and let's work together to take the White House. I think we can all agree that no matter who wins the nomination we need to swing our support because we are DEMOCRATS. Unless you want to see trailers in the White House lawn to house all of Mitt Romney's kids......think about it.
SURE OBAMA IS GOOD AT GIVING A SPEECH, BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT THINGS THAT HE HAS SAID OR DONE HE SAYS THINGS WERE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT....WHY DOES"NT THAT APPLY TO ANYTHING THAT HILLARY OR BILL CLINTON HAS TO SAY....WHAT GOES FOR ONE MUST APPLY TO ALL....WHAT MAKES HIM THINK THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO HIM.....I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHY...LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN....OBAMA NEEDS TO GET SOME TOUGH SKIN BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL RUN HIM THROUGH THE SHREDDER.....SO WHAT"S WRONG WITH ASKING SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS....HILLARY HAS THE BATTLE SCARS TO PROVE IT.....WHAT THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO DO IS GET AT LEAST 60% MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE...BECAUSE IF WE DON"T NOTHING WILL GET PASSED JUST LIKE NOTHING CAN GET PASSED NOW....AND WHO DOES EVERYONE BLAME....THE DEMOCRATS.....YOU CAN BEST BELIEVE THE REPUBLICANS WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO STOP THE DEMOCRATS DON"T YOU PEOPLE SEE THIS....OBAMA IS NO MIRACLE WORKER....ALL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CARES ABOUT IS THE TOP 5-10% OF THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME MONEY BACK FROM OUR GOVERNMENT....BUT HONESTLY DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT BUSH CARES ABOUT LOWER INCOME PEOPLE....I THINK NOT....AT LEAST HILLARY IS GOING TO STAND UP FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS FOR EQUAL PAY, HEALTH INS., DAY CARE, ECONOMY....BOY HOW SOON WE FORGET...IT HAS'NT BEEN THAT LONG AGO WE EVEN HAD THE RIGHT TO VOTE....AND WHAT ABOUT THE 60'S...DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT TIME!!!!!
Bottom line – Obama has no experience; Race does not play an issue here. Real intelligent people will want a candidate with the most experience and that's Hillary – like it or not. I don't care if there are 10 generations of Clinton's in the White House if they did the country good – and Bill did good and with his first lady by his side I might add. Again, if the candidate did good for the people, who gives a rats behind how many times they end up in the White House; that only means that we keep voting them in because we believe in them. Go Hillary!!!
Greetings to everyone! I'm a Hispanic independent voter. As independent I try hard to make the right decision when time to vote. In my opinion, the best two candidates for the Democrats is by far Obama and Edwards. These two seem very sincere in change, they just have little differences in their policies. Since Edwards seems to be coming in third nationally, I hope he drops and supports Obama and run for VP. I think both of them will do great things for this country. Its obvious that the Clinton's work as a team so why wasn't health care fixed in the 8 years when Bill was President? Why is Hillary getting founds from the insurance companies? Action speaks louder than words so no matter what she says she voted for war with Iraq and Obama didn't. That leaves me to think, she can easily be manipulated or she goes with the hype. Obama doesn't. My vote is for Obama! I hope to see Obama/Edwards for 08. Then we will see change and with that comes hope.
Hillary is down right dirty! Did you see the seething look on her face after she threw that POINTLESS attack at Barak about the slum lord. If you have something to say, say it but remain poised for goodness sake. Don't have a scary look on your face like Hillary did as if she had just said a "Yo' Mama" joke. LOL!
The Billary campaign should be ashame of themselves. This kind of politics is damaging our country.
Where does "hp" gets all the 1,2,3,4 crab? Talking smack with no substance.
It's Obama 2008! or 109 members of my family will be voting Independent. Hillary is experienced in what? America, will collapse in 12 years if Hillary wins.
Where was Bill when 400,000 Rwandas where killed, hum nothing to gain let them die. America you have forgotten that.
Hillary was in charge of revamping Health Care when Bill was president ... so much for the experience, she needs another 8 years to try again.
Puta que pario, idiotas.
Wise is he who learns from mistakes of others, Go Obama!
It's insulting to our intelligence that Hillary thinks we're going to buy her interpretation of the Reagan/Republican remarks. What Barack was trying to say is perfectly clear, and the sheer level of shamelessness to which they've sunk in in this race staggers me. I used to love Bill, but now I have no respect for him left. And as a woman, the spectacle of her rising through her husband rather than on her own merits depresses me for the future of gender equality in our country.
HP,
Your ridiculously misinformed,
"1- Hilary represents all races v/s Obama, the blacks."
Hillary represents her own self interest anything she can say to win the vote she will.
"2- Hilary represents the families with lower incomes v/s Obama, $100,000 and up"
Education is a great indication of income....hence Obama tends to get the vote from the educated people who actually follow follow and understand what the issues are, where as Hillary convinces the uninformed.
"3- Hilary represents the INVISIBLES v/s Obama the PRIVILEGES."
This is exactly the opposite Hillary comes from the privileged Obama does not, Obamas entire career has been based around working for the poor and people without a voice. Hillary did Corporate law for some of the largest corporations in the world.
"4- Hilary has a specific plan for the economy, the healthcare v/s Obama ???"
Both candidates have a plan both are actually remarkably similar the only real difference would be the required pay for health care that Hillary purposes vs. the non required but more for the people who don't have health care and can't afford it that Barack supports.
Feel free to follow whoever you choose but just don't do it blindly, do some research for yourself....
I was turned off by the bickering between Obama and Clinton. However, i am proud of Obama for standing up to the Clinton machine for once.
Obama started the campain with intergrity and respect. However the Clintons' panicked when he won Iowa and decided to do whatever they could to derail his chances. Hence, he has to defend himself as well as call her out on the holes in her record.
I wish they didn't resort to cheap jabs, but for last night it was VERY neccessary for Obama to answer back to all the manipulative accusations the Clintons' have been shamelessly spreading since he won Iowa.
I am proud of Edwards conduct – but lets be honest – he is just to boring..
Obama '08
I am so sick of hearing people talk about experience. Does Hillary have the experience to be president? I think so, but where does she get off talking about SUPERIOR experience? She has 7 years in the senate to Obama's 11 and Edwards' 6, and when you count in their other political activities it all pretty much equals out. I wish people would stop talking about experience. It's a non-issue because none of the candidates really has any more than the others, and they are all qualified to do the job. Just because no one had heard of Obama before this race, that doesn't mean he didn't exist. He's been at this a long time. Hillary needs to stop claiming superiority in this department because being first lady for 8 years do not count as political experience. She was sent overseas as an ambassador, not a negotiator, she was never given security clearance, she never sat in on meetings, she was never given a copy of Bill's daily intelligence briefings. Being married to a president doesn't make you any more qualified to BE president than, say, someone who's been in the senate LONGER than YOU, and therefore probably less so. That doesn't mean she's not qualified for the job, because she certainly is, if you want to talk about experience. I just want to point out that it's incredibly misleading for her to claim she has MORE experience than the other candidates, when it simply is not true. As for the other Obama supporters out there, keep trucking, but please stop saying Obama is inexperienced. I'm afraid the Clinton campaign is doing it's job well if you think that, but take some comfort in knowing your candidate is not only well-qualified, but also quite experienced. Don't believe the lies and the spins!! Trust the facts!!
After watching the debate last night, or shall I say "The Obama Show". It's absolutely amazing how mucvh the race card has been played by Obama. The first question that was asked wasd about the economy. Hillary, who went first answered it. Obama, next, started off his extensive monologue evoking MLK. You mean he played the race card in front of a mostly black audience?
Also, I don;t know if anyone else noticed. CNN loves Obama. When Hillary or Jogn Edwards were speaking they were cut off within 30 seconds of speaking, but Obama was allowed, I timed it, to speak as long as 5-7 minutes on his issues.
Granted thye debate was sponsored by the Black South Carolina Caucases. So, of course, it was only fair that Obama get as much face time as possible.
Shame on you CNN. Fairness in obviously not in your vocabulary.
I can not wait until after Super tuesday to see who the democratic nominee will be.
Just remember, whomever we select has to run in all 50 states, not just South Carolina.
HILLARY CLINTON ALL THE WAY.....I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE IS STILL TALKING ABOUT RONALD REAGAN....HE WAS AN ACTOR AND HE ACTED HIS WAY THROUGH THOSE TERRIBLE YEARS HE WAS OUR PRESIDENT...I MAY BE MISTAKEN BUT DID'NT HE ARM THE IRANIANS.....WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT HIM. HILLARY'S THE ONLY ONE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE AS AMERICANS ARE WORRIED ABOUT. I HOPE THE WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BAND TOGETHER, WE COULD EASILY GET HER IN THE WHITE HOUSE, SHE'S THE BEST CANDIDATE ON BOTH SIDES, GOD HELP US WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER REPUBLICAN AS OUR PRESIDENT....DO THE RIGHT THING PUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!
As a life long democrat I am looking more closely at John McCain in the unfortunate event that Hillary is the nominee. A month ago I would have said that I would support whomever the nominee was but not after the Karl Rove style politics that the Clintons have demonstrated. I cannot support the continuation of this nastiness and lies. I am very sad that in a time when democrats could be coming together to win the white house the Clintons have torn the party apart in pursuit of their own political aspirations. I hope that most democrats are as tired as I am of this and will not vote for Hillary in the primary.
If you know anyone in SC who gets a push poll have them to record it some kind of way then call 877-622-6228. We need to get the recording to the Press before Saturday. Get this to as many people you know in SC. Get the word out. Make sure you inform them if they get a push poll to call this number. Make sure they try to record the message
What is to push. The senator has been in office two years. Half of thet time he has ben running for President......... WHAT RECORD?????????
Wake up people...how can you have change with the same ones in the WH
The Clintons will piss on everything and smile and we say OK
We the people deserve what we have and get...clowns and fools
We will NEVER learn and will have the same waste products in government
WAKE UP AMERICA...THE COUNTRY IS IN THE TOILET
And it is about to be flush
WHY is this still news??? They did it here in Iowa too. They cheated in the caucuses, she did push-polling, they sent out mailer after mailer full of LIES. I started out this process supporting her, until I woke up and started LEARNING the TRUTH!!! Seems some will never learn. CNN itself only started seeing the truth a couple of days ago, and I think it's short-lived. Clintons are the ones with the millions and now all they need is MORE POWER!!! They'll clearly take it any old way they can!!!
If we let the Machine with Two Heads run this party again, I'll leave the *&%$$)* party!
there you go. Clinton, who says she cares about blacks in south carolina, flys out to california to get an edge on obama, and leaves her husband to get the black vote in south carolina.
SEND HER A MESSAGE, WE ARE NOT AS STUPID AND YOU AND BILL THINK!!!!
VOTE OBAMA!!!
all the posts here look quite promising. I don't quite understand what happens when it comes down to the polls. NH was quite surprising. There is a woman who cried her eyes, and she gets a sympathy vote, because of a political machine behind her? We have members of a Union who go against the Union leader's endorsement because Bill Clinton shook their hands? It's one thing to play dirty politics, but citizens should be above the negative campaining and look at the merits of an incorruptible politician in our times, Mr. Obama. I hope SC doesn't disappoint with the apparent short sightedness that has been displayed in the recent past, w.r.t. "experience" that Hillary Clinton has. Just as an fyi, her "experience" started only when she was elected Senator.
CNN your Biased, it appears that anyone who does not agree with Obama does not get their comments posted. I have left several just to test the CNN waters, you should be ashamed as a news reporting agency.
Signed,
Not heard by CNN Blogs
History is changing. The Clintons thought they had the election in the bag. They never thought of Obama being an actually competitor and underestimated him. Now, all these attacks are flying all over the place to discredit him. I am surprised about the horrible attacks. I thought we as Democratics were above these tactics. Democrats please really examine these issues before voting. We do not need chaos in the White House for another 8 years.
Obama keep standing strong.
GO BILL!! Get Hillary the nomination so that us Republicans can WIN the White House Again!! We are scared of Obama, he has to many younger voters on his side, but not BILLARY!!
Karl Rove would be proud of anyone following in his footsteps on how to win an election through misrepresentation of the opponent's statements and the mistruths flung out by surrogates to tear down someone's character. I thought that the Unites States was ready for a change but from the dirty tricks and personal attacks, I guess not. I guess the means justify the ends as long as you win. If this keeps up, our democratic party will be split down the middle with very hard feelings on both sides. As a democrat, it will make it very hard for me to vote for someone who is willing to follow Rove's playbook and further partisan divide. I have had enough of that for the last eight years. Enough is enough.
If the candidate is into personal attacks and misrepresentations of his opponent then that tells me the cadidate does not seem to have enough strength and belief in his own issues in which they can converse to get them elected.
I don't believe Bill Clinton should be campaigning for his wife. That should be left up to the daughter to do. Bill Clinton is a former President of United States, an office that demands respect and an image of a former president should be above the fray unitl a final democratic nominee is picked. His support should be the democratic party and not for an individual. What democratic opponent really wants to attack a former President of the United States, a former leader of their party? This same former leader is now putting himself into a position where he can divide his party into splinters that may be hard to put back together again when the democatic convention rolls around and nominee is picked. Are we then just suppost to forget all the bad politicing that went on before. I know I won't be able to.
Let each candidate stand on his own and honestly and truthfully debate the issues that really matter to us. We are electing one individual to help lead this country out of the partisan mess it is in now. One individual who then must decide on one vice president to help him. There is no such thing as co-presidency. I want to vote for a President of the United States and a Vice President of the United States who has run an honest and truthful candidacy on their own strengths of truth and honesty on the issues and what they can do to help us. And if I can believe in their integrity, honesty, and good character, then the world might follow suit and believe in America once again.
is this on your main page? Just wondering since the John McCain push polling and lies were on the main page. Has anyone seen the Clinton Chronicles? While I do not believe EVERYTHING in the movie, it does raise serious SERIOUS doubts. Search Clinton Chronicles on video.google.com or on youtube, it is there in 11 parts