January 21, 2008
Posted: January 21st, 2008 02:00 PM ET

ATLANTA (CNN) - At the annual Martin Luther King Jr. memorial service Monday in Atlanta, former President Bill Clinton spoke in broad terms about the presidential race, while a somewhat more pointed political message came from a prominent Obama supporter.

Clinton, introduced by King's nephew Isaac Farris as a man whose "presidency truly reflected the principles of Martin Luther King Jr.," cited the diverse field of Democratic candidates seeking the presidential nomination. "It's all possible because of Martin Luther King's vision of the beloved community," he told the crowd at Ebenezer Baptist Church.

He added, "This is a time for humility, because there are many storm clouds on the horizon at home and around the world. And we still talk better than we do. We still talk better than we do. All of us. Every last one of us."

Clinton's speech - composed largely of a reflection of how much King had touched his life as a young man and guided his career - came after Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin, who has endorsed Obama, addressed the congregation.

"We are about to witness the impossible being probable," she told the crowd in the church where King once preached.

Franklin said that in times of trouble, America "stretches to elect a president from uncharted places - a mill worker's son, a first lady, a Mormon, a Baptist preacher, and even, ladies and gentlemen, a black man."

She added, "We are at the cusp of turning the impossible into reality... Yes this is reality, not fantasy or fairy tales."

In remarks earlier this month, Clinton had called Obama's representation of his record on the Iraq war a "fairy tale." Some African-Americans said they viewed the remark as an assessment of his candidacy in general, which Clinton denied.

Both Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama last week called on their supporters to end bickering over such remarks.

After Franklin spoke Monday, many in the congregation stood up applauding, though Clinton remained seated, applauding politely.

At the Ebenezer service, campaigning for candidates is not invited, but general political messages flow freely. During Clinton's introduction, Farris, president and chief executive of the King Center, noted that Clinton would speak "in his role as former president," rather than as the spouse of a candidate.

When Clinton took the floor to a standing ovation, he noted many dignitaries present by name, and joked that Franklin "already took care of whatever political dilemma I have" in participating at the service during a campaign year. "I wouldn't have said it quite the way she did, but she got it all out there, that was good," he said smiling.

Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee was also in attendance. "I think America owes a lot to Dr. King," he told reporters outside the church in downtown Atlanta.

"When politicians were brought basically dragging and kicking to the whole civil rights movement, it was Dr. King that really led this country to recognize the worth and value of every human being."

Asked why more Republicans don't reach out to black voters, he responded, "I can't speak for them, I can only speak for myself...Politics shouldn't be anything other than making sure that every single human being, every American, has the same opportunities."

Clinton, during his remarks, noted the presence of his fellow former Arkansas governor. "We don't agree on much, but he is a very good man," Clinton said of Huckabee, noting that they had both worked on programs to combat obesity.

The three leading Democratic presidential candidates, meanwhile, took part in a King rally in South Carolina, the state that serves as the next showdown in their fight for the nomination.

On Sunday, Obama spoke at a service at Ebenezer Baptist, while Sen. John Edwards visited a service at Zion Baptist Church in Columbia, S.C., and Hillary Clinton picked up the endorsement of Pastor Calvin Butts of Abyssinian Baptist Church, a prominent African-American congregation in New York.

CNN's Josh Levs

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Ray d   January 22nd, 2008 3:08 pm ET

Emotions loaded with hate
Psychologically it may be some relief for the "responders" on this blog– I hope so,
Now go vote for whoever you think is best!!
We know who that will be.– unfortunately that person will not be the next President

Donna/NC   January 21st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

Clinton is fighting Obama for the "black vote" This is clearly a race issue and it is not the media making it a race issue. Society is making it a race issue simply because there is an African American running for President of the US. If there was not a black man running, then it would not be a race issue. Look at Obama as a human being not an African American. Come on people look at the issues that matter to us, not the color of the skin. Bill needs to sit back like the other canidates spouses, his campaigning for hillary could be a negative instead of a positive.

Donna   January 21st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Sen. Clinton and her husband need to stop beating up on Obama. She feels threatened by him, why else would she do it.

Murry   January 21st, 2008 8:36 pm ET

What, is Bill Clinton running for president instead of his wife? Hillary needs to stand on her own two feet. How embarrassing for women everywhere that she needs a man to do the dirty work for her.

Tyler in Raleigh   January 21st, 2008 8:18 pm ET

WHY was Slick Willy the "first black President"??? I do not see anything that he did to improve race relations, equality or fariness in this country.

He sent our jobs oversees with NAFTA, which led to many of the problems we have now. He was there when rates went down to nothing... and mortgages started to get lax.

The economic recovery we had in his term was due to BUSH's policies. He was lucky to benefit from them, the economy was already improving from what Bush did but sadly the #s did not come out until after the election.

Much like the full extent of what Bush 2 has done will not be felt for another few years. American's think short term, which is why we have the trade, job, social security, medicare and other problems. Everyone wants to buy now, pay later... and Presidents know this and do the same. By the time it backfires... they are gone and its the next one to clean it up.

The Clintons are both spitefull, bitter people. They want another 15 minutes of fame at our expense.

OBAMA MAMA Twin Cities, MN   January 21st, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Politics should be out of MLK's birthday celebrations. Period.
I don't mind Billary getting a taste of their own medicine but it shouldn't be at an MLK event. As Obama supporters were classer then that.
They whined that people and the media were picking on them about their MLK and "fairy tale" comments when they were the ones that said them. Then they used the fallout to race bait Obama which backfired and they whined about that too. Hillary cries because everyone is picking on her!!! WAHHHHHHHH! Obama is quoted as speaking the truth and people say he's crying! Give me a break. Bill started his belly aching about voter intimidation in NV before the poles even opened so if his wife lost the popular vote he could scream "I told you so. I told you so. Voter intimidation!!!". In NH he cried that his wife wasn't getting enough press (Edwards has whined about the same thing but in his case he has a point). Before the results come in at the primaries Billary starts to WHINE and CRY. If Billary gets the nomination (God help us) half the Dems won't vote for her and not a single Rep or Indi will (that includes me). It will be another 4 years of Rep rule. Not to mention that if she does get the nomination (ain't going to happen) that Bloomberg will definately jump in and run as an Indi, further making it impossible for the Dems to win. Then we will definately see some tears from Billary!!!
Only Obama can get the votes Dems need to win (remember 2000 and 2004). It was too close the last two elections and the Dems are going to need all the votes they can get and only Obama is the one that can get those votes. Rep CAN"T pick him apart because he doesn't have the slime trailing down his back like Billary does. Can you imagine the ads Reps will run if they run against Billary. Reps will bring up every dirty (and I do mean DIRTY) back door deal Billary has ever been involved in (and there are so many to choose from it's scary). Reps can't WAIT to run against Bilary, they are scared to death to run against Obama. If Dems were smart (and by reading some of these Obama hater comments I'm starting to wonder about that) they would run, not walk away from Billary.
Like alot of americans I can't wait to see a woman in the white house (I am a woman with two daughters and a son) but not Billary. I am young and I know it will happen sooner then you think but I want the right person and I'm not going to support Billary just because part of the team is a woman. I want someone my children could look up to it ain't Bush, and it ain't Clinton, and it ain't Bush, and it ain't Clinton again (no more dynasties please). Based on Billarys behavior I can't believe I voted for Bill twice and I used to support Hill. Don't be fooled people, we can have the prosperity without the scandal.

Obama 08

Hillary HATES CATS   January 21st, 2008 7:38 pm ET

Hillary Hates Cats and I want to see how they spin that one.

Gobama   January 21st, 2008 7:31 pm ET

A-B-C-D = Anyone But Clintons Dynasty!

Jim in Orlando, FL   January 21st, 2008 7:26 pm ET

There has never been a bigger phoney in the White House than Bill Clinton. Now some want to make his wife the Phoney-in-Chief. What lemmings. ABC .. Anyone but Clinton.

Jason   January 21st, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Jack,

NOW
NEA
NAACP
AFLCIO
ACLU
International Labor Organization
National Conference of Black Lawyers
National Association of Hispanic Lawyers

This was your partial list. Now lets see take a look at them.

NOW, NAACP – Organizations that promote improving rights for two groups of people that have historically been mistreated by White American Society.

NEA – An organization that wants to improve educational standards.

AFL-CIO, International Labor Organization – Two groups that have the interest of the common working person at heart.

ACLU – An organization that is the watchdog for American Civil Rights, you know those things guaranteed by the constitution.

National Conference of Black Lawyers
National Association of Hispanic Lawyers

Organizations there to help Minority Lawyers get a fair shake.

Yes such "terrible" special interests groups. Groups that want to help make sure all americans have a more equal footing in our society. Our nation has been run by the same elite group of Rich White Americans for over 200 years and look at the condition we are currently in.

Now lets look at just two of the special interest groups of the republican party:
Big Business
Big Oil

Both of these groups only have the interests of a very small portion of american society at heart, and what portion is that? The rich man. The Corporate Elite. I think these groups have been ruining America (and ruining is NOT a typo) for long enough.

Civil Liberities have been eroded and completely taken away. The gap between the middle class and elite rich has grown by leaps and bounds, while the middle class have moved closer and closer to the poverty line. We have been at a constant state of war for the last 6+ years , a war much like Vietnam that we can NOT win. Etc.

I think we are , no we are PAST due to elect someone who is not part of the same "good ole boy" group. Sadly, while we are past due, I fear that if either Obama or Clinton are give the nod as Democratic Nominee that the election will be give over to the Republicans.

Why? I dont think that their enough people in the deep south who would vote for either a woman or african-american. There is still a good amount of racial based and gender based prejuidices in that region.

Diane   January 21st, 2008 7:04 pm ET

Frankly, I wish Bill Clinton would just plain stay out of sight. He is not helpiing anyone. Haven't we had enough of the Clinton DUO? WHO is actually running for president??? Appears in his mind HE IS! So he was popular at one time. Big deal. Right now he looks like an old , frustrated man with THOSE bags under his eyes. He had his shot at the Presidrncy–let someone else have one. Maybe he thinks he'll be running the show IF his wife gets in. Someone wrote to a blog that he was a "worm" - personally I think both of them are in the same catagory. Liers, corrupt, and only thinking of themselves, NOT the Americans. How can voters be so ill-informed??? No wonder , we as Americans are where we are today. We are stagnating in our own mess!!!

QUE   January 21st, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Sarah L, AK – it was the media that introduce the race issue, not the Clintons. So don't let your hatred of the clintons blind cloud your judgment.

QUE   January 21st, 2008 6:45 pm ET

To the realist – "the guy has no shame" and you buddy, lacks the basic comprehension skill or just gullible. The "fairytale" reference was about his Iraq position. Please get this through your thick scull.

aware   January 21st, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Anyone but Obama!

I used to think Barack might make a good VP, but this arrogant, presumptive man with his materially paltry attacks and premature run is like a spoiled child saying -don't touch my toys. This has nothing to do with race or gender. It is just the same old ego/power/control game. He is totally without respect or common decency. What a pretender! Barack's inexperience is catching up with him!

Barack for president – forget it!

Hillary 08

M&Ms   January 21st, 2008 6:25 pm ET

All of our candidates in the Democratic Party represent a minority group whether by gender, race, or socioeconomic status that we should be proud of and that I am certain MLK Jr. would be proud of seeing them set their sights on the presidency. Racism and sexism of any nature would be denounced by MLK Jr. I think based on what happened in Nevada, it is clear that racism exists in the reverse sense today. By African Americans isolating themselves as a group, they are reinforcing the notion that race is a real rather than constructed notion that needs to be abandoned. I would say the same thing about gender, however, the votes didn't sway so dramatically based on this factor.

Ca Native   January 21st, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Bill made his speech... and then soon after FELL ASLEEP while others spoke. Nice Bill... guess it the topic isn't about you...or the attention focused on your words... then it doesn't really matter, eh?

MR   January 21st, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Hey, Real Chance. I know a lot of people and have several family members, including myself, who are highly educated and support Hillary Clinton. Believe me, there are a lot dumb people with high levels of educaiton,who have nothing to show for it. Education doesn't make you wise, nor more insightful – experience does. Having said that, when was the last time a poll by income and education was taken...oh, yes, in Nevada, and it turns out that Hillary also gained the majority of support among voters who earned $100K+. Real Chance do your research first before you make sweeping comments like that again. See, an education can't buy you intelligence! BTW, I also happened to attend the world's second top university and had an A average GPA – research that and you'll know which university I'm talking about. GO HILLARY!!!

Karen   January 21st, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Today is a day to celebrate an incredible man who made a difference. What act of kindness have you done to make a difference for someone else today?

Edwin G   January 21st, 2008 5:38 pm ET

If you regard the "fairy tale" statement of Bill in reference to Obama's candidacy, I guess both are playing politics, trying to seize the middle and get the sympathy from the electorate. In politics, the objective is to win, now whether the route was decent or full of lies, it depends on the voters who render the final verdict in an election. For people to claim that Obama is honest and Bill is superclean while the Republicans are not racists, they are all living in fairy tales.

Ryan Theriot   January 21st, 2008 5:37 pm ET

***Important Message***

The federal reserve is not run by the federal government. It is owned by "national banks" that are owned by private investors. The Board of Directors of these banks are made up of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world. The federal reserve is unconstitutional and was created the same year as the unconstitutional federal income tax. The federal reserve prints money and loans it to our government at interest when in fact the government has the constitutional right to print money interest free. According to a review by the Regan administration, 100% of personal income taxes go to pay the interest on the debt created by the federal reserve, interest that should not even exist. So you have an unconstitutional, illegal, immoral tax to pay for interest on debt that should not bear interest.

When you realize this is true, you will see why Ron Paul is your only choice for freedom in this election.

Lev Klinemann, CA   January 21st, 2008 5:37 pm ET

therealist,

why dont you call yourself lala land actually thinking that Mitt Romney will be good for the US.

I hope he wins the Republican nomination, I really do, because then he will flip-flop again and be PRO-CHOICE, PRO GAY MARRIAGE, PRO UNIONS, and back too all of his Masachussetts view to win the middle vote.

This guy lied to the reporter, reporter called him out on it, and then he lied about a lie.

therealist were you one of those people in the 2004 Republican National Convention waivng flip-flops by any chance?

angelina_ MN   January 21st, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Wallace I am with you. As an independent voter, a woman, a very proud Latina, a citizen, a mother, a hard worker person, well educated, traveled and just as a regular person, I, too will vote Republican if the Democrats nominate HILLBILLYS.
This year, the presidential race here transcends all_ just like Senator Obama is saying. We are talking about the future of our children why would we not take a chance to make real Change.
If the Clintons cared about what they say they care about, (in my eyes and by their public record in office both in the so called 35 years) they would be the first ones supporting Senator Obama. But when it comes to practice as you preach, they do not step up to the plate. If, all voters regardless of age, gender, race and all, have not noticed that HILLBILLYs are about power and control, I dont know what awaits for this country and for the rest of the world.

Senator Obama, so far is the only one candidate that continues to show integrity, honesty, respect and continues to say to all runners: we can agree to disagree. it takes but a few minutes to see how negative, unprofesional, un political, disrespectful Hill and Bill are to all candidates, but specially to Senator Obama.
I am sick of old politics as we know it and tired of the status quo.

do voters not get bothered when they see:

Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton (hillary) Clinton (chelsea)

it is not just about political lines here it is about breaking out of old outdated politics, stopping us from becoming a dynasty, shaking the status quo, and just being Americans, bringing change which benift all of us, not just the few.

Sarah L, Fayetteville, AR   January 21st, 2008 5:35 pm ET

I'm a white Arkansan and I am informed enough to know that Barack Obama had nothing to do with that fact that race has become an issue. Many people have allowed the Clintons to hijack this campaign and drive a wedge between the white and black community. Who cares if the black community wants to support a black candidate? Many women support Hillary just because she's a woman. Does that mean that men are going to go and vote against her? No. The Clintons are the only ones who have made an issue of race.

Today, we celebrate the life of a man who was devoted to unity and equality. Please take care not to let negative campaign tactics turn your attention away from the one candidate who truly believes in one America, Mr. Barack Obama.

Barbara Casas-California   January 21st, 2008 5:33 pm ET

With seventy-two percent of Americans (white) saying they think it is time for a black President, and sixty one percent of Americans (black) also saying it is time for a black President, I say that I think it is a possibility we have grown up within a certain time-frame of this election. I pray the final vote reflects that growth.

Other countrys have Presidents or dictators who are not from the majority ethnic group of that country. Those countrys seem to have no problem with deciding just who should vote in their elections either; those who are natural citizens by birth or immigrants who have obtained legal status through all the proper procedures.

This is a sound process and I see nothing in it which would not be a moral, legal, election, in which the people have elected their choice.

All of the "talkie-talkie" about who did what, who said what, and whether this/that person/candidate is "black enough" "smart enough," " young enough" is so much "balderdash"....

I long for the days when experience, real experience as a statesman showed the caliber and character of a candidate; sometimes moral character was not an ingredient of worth at the polls as shown with JFK and our past President Clinton, but JFK's experience, IQ and leadership won out.

I pray the people will not only look at these attributes, but also with an eye on the future of our country.

wale azeez   January 21st, 2008 5:27 pm ET

politically convenient...like bush said change your talk with the political weather!!!! lying scumbag!!!

Aaron, Saint Paul MN   January 21st, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Bill is slowly but surely losing any respect I had for him.

How dare he talk of unity and reconciliation after calling Obama's entire candidacy a "ROLL OF THE DICE"!!

Am I calling him racist? Not necessarily... He wants power. He's not afraid to step on any one group of people to get it. He used African Americans in the 90's for his own agenda, and his wife had the audacity to say that FDR actually had more of an impact on Civil Rights legislation than MLK did (And if you look at her original quote, not her later explanation, that IS what she was implying).

I have little respect for that Dynastic couple.

I want a president who will bring people together like Obama has been doing this entire campaign. I don't want to just "beat" republicans (like Hillary keeps saying is her primary goal), I want to respectfully debate them and let the person who is right win.

Please people!! Our country cannot withstand another 8 years of Republicans vs. Democrats!

Not even Bill's 90's economy was worth the political divisiveness we inherited.

Obama '08!

Eric   January 21st, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Wallace–Are you blind or just like to ignore facts? Obama has people doing negative attacks on Hillary as well and his campaign put out a 4 page memo in South Carolina trying to stir the racial pot.

Due Diligence   January 21st, 2008 5:18 pm ET

True Diversity wouldn't have to be proven or pointed out. If our country was truly color blind or gender neutral – this wouldn't be a factor for or against a Candidate.

If people are voting because of color, sex or religion – then they are missing the whole point of the Liberty the Constitution guaranteed.

Citizens need to perform their own due diligence and look for the Candidate that upholds the Constitution this Nation was supposed to be based on.

Democrats, Republicans, Independents – it makes no difference. The President of the United States takes only one oath – and that is to the Constitution.

If our Country had ever been ran by a Leader who truly believed in a Government according to the Constitution of the United States – there would have been persons of color or women in Office long before now. But it wasn't in the agenda until now – why?

For years our Citizens have been polled and profiled to find out exactly what it is they will "buy into" and now they are falling for the fancy packaging presented in this Election because it appears to be what they asked for.

Look a little deeper America – our Nation is in big trouble and we need to drastically reduce Government spending NOW or we are facing the bankruptcy of our economy. And tax cuts, special funding programs, bail outs, and the like are only ways to increase spending by the Federal Government – not reduce it.

David Walker, the Comptroller General, for the United States of America has been trying to tell everyone this. Bernanke is also adding his concerns. And Ron Paul-R has been trying to get Congress to listen to him on this issue for years now.

Due Diligence is key – because we are in big trouble. And just like everyone ignored the real estate bubble and credit crisis until it was too late – people continue to ignore the warnings of officials from within the Government itself that we're facing a much larger crisis then we've been told.

Thank goodness we've finally progressed far enough as a Nation to finally have both a person of color and a woman as Candidates.

But right now – that's not our biggest concern and certainly not what we should be casting a vote based on. We don't need to make history with this election – we need to secure our future with it. Before it's too late.

Jack K., FT Myers, FL   January 21st, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Special interest groups who coerce the Democratic party into pressing their specific social agenda...just a few:

NOW
NEA
NAACP
AFLCIO
ACLU
International Labor Organization
National Conference of Black Lawyers
National Association of Hispanic Lawyers

Need I add more....there are thousands!!!

Ann   January 21st, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Yolanda, Hillary being at a "Black" church in Harlam yesterday speaking about seeing Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1963, and how it was "transformational" in her life, but forgot to mention that she was a Republican "Goldwater Girl" in 1964 and worked to get him elected, is "milking it" You need to do a little research, and study history to find out what Barry Goldwater stood for, before you believe everything that comes out of Bill Clinton's and Hillary Clinton's mouths.

Eric   January 21st, 2008 5:05 pm ET

With former President Bill Clinton standing not 20 feet in front of her, Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin took what appeared to be a political shot at the former president's comments about Barack Obama's candidacy.

Speaking at the 40th annual MLK commemorative service at Ebenezer Baptist Church, Franklin said the country is on the "cusp of turning impossible into reality. Yes this is reality, not fantasy or fairy tales."

....

Franklin has endorsed Obama, who spoke from the same pulpit at Ebenezer on Sunday.

Today, after Franklin's remarks, the crowd of more than 2000 rose to its feet —except for Bill Clinton, who sat in his front pew seat and clapped politely.

That is pretty digusting to be campaigning for Obama like this at a MLK event...that and the shouts for Obama while Bill was speaking.

Wallace Brown   January 21st, 2008 5:03 pm ET

I am a Black male in my mid-fifties who has always voted for a Democrat for President but if Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination I will vote for a Republican for the first time in my life. If a Republican did what the Clintons have been doing – character assassination, mud-slingling, lying, and disaparaging Barack Obama my people would call them racists and be 100% correct. Why is it that the holier than thou Clintons get away with a hi-tech lynching of Obama and there is silence in our community???? I do not worship at the altar of Bill Clinton and what he and his henchman working for Hillary are doing is despicable and it's high time Black leaders stop being silent about it.

Wanda in NJ   January 21st, 2008 5:01 pm ET

As non-white person, what I would like to know is why African Americans consider Bill Clinton as the first black President?

1) Is it because he didn't know his father?

2) As President and governor he reportedly could not keep his fly shut?

3) He had sex with a girl just a little older than his daughter?

4) He was an accomplished liar?

5) He could keep in rhythm with the choruses at black churches?

I mean is it because he fulfills the stereotype of what a black man is supposedly?

As for legislation and policies that uplifted the black race when he was president can anyone inform me?

Thank you.

Ann   January 21st, 2008 5:01 pm ET

Clinton has forgotten King's message completely. If he had remembered he never would have attacked Obama the way he did. No, Clinton sees Clinton and only Clinton.

therealist   January 21st, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Bill has the gall to address the MLK ceremony 2 days after referring to a modern day black president in Obama as "fantasy". This guy knows no shame..

Lev Klinemann, CA   January 21st, 2008 4:57 pm ET

You are not a loser if you stand for your principals, in the 1960's Democrats did, they helped with the desegregation movement, and lost a lot of the southern democrats.

They knew what was going to happen but they did it any way.

Martyrs have to die and in the beginning lose, but their voices speak from the graves louder than ever, and eventually they win.

As lond as we democrats stay true to our diverse and excepting principals we will live forever, even if we have to lose occasionally.

Republicans only think about now and what was in the past, that is why their advancements are always difficult...

...BUT WE WILL DRAG THEM INTO THE 21st CENTURY KICKING AND SCREAMING IF WE HAVE TO.

Mati   January 21st, 2008 4:55 pm ET

While mayor Franklin politicized the event, Bill Clinton talked about what Dr. King legacy means to America. I think this is a more appropriate message on a celebration day. The Black community simply patronized the MLK celebration. And Obama hypocritically calls for unity.. which means for him: be united around my candidacy. What is wrong with America?

Ginny CA   January 21st, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Dave: So AARON GOULD SHEININ of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution left out the part about Clinton taking the floor to a standing ovation. And isn't it a shame that Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin couldn't resist sniping at Bill Clinton when she spoke at the Ebenezer Baptist Church at a memorial service for Martin Luther King? Apparently Clinton handled it well though, taking the high road, rather than stooping to her level and exchanging shots.

Bethany, St. Louis MO   January 21st, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Where's the story about Obama's speech today?

And who cares about Bill. Last time I checked, he's not running for President.

--   January 21st, 2008 4:50 pm ET

"Everybody-but-a-white-guy" party? People should be blinded so then maybe we can see that different people can still have similar sentiments, beliefs, and/or opinions.

What's wrong with people who represent those outside of middle-class white-America? There are all different kinds of people in America, whether the question is race, financial class, ethics, etc.

And trust me, the "white guy" will always have a place up there somewhere in every party, Jack K. Fear not, the official religion of the US will not be Mormon, white men will not be lynched, and no man shall be castrated (at least by the government's hand to our knowledge).

Charles in Salt Lake City, UT   January 21st, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Clinton (whichever, pick your gender) is a pandering jerk.

Neither one of the Clintons did a THING for the Black Community that the Black Community didn't already do better for themselves! The Black Community does not need "good white masters" (who expect to be praised and rewarded) to "do" for them anymore. That's what Obama's message of hope and pride is all about — not just for Blacks, but for everyone.

And for the record - the 1964 Civil Rights Act (yes, it was "signed by a President") wasn't what eventually overcame discriminatory attitudes about race in America and made racism unfashionable, it was the beautiful dream expressed by Martin Luther King and the sacrifices of countless Civil Rights advocates!

South Carolina, when you vote on Dr. King's birthday, kindly remember the dream he actually stood for.

Will, Manchester, NH   January 21st, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Greg in OH...

Bill is having affairs??? Gimme a break... Its his personal life. What if he lied in the past??? its over.... its history. But whats important is he telling lies now. As long as he opens his mouth, I am convinced its lies. Too bad there are too mant gullible Americans out here who fall for these tricks from the develish combo of Bill and Hill

Yolanda, SC   January 21st, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Instead of celebrating and respecting Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his vision and message this week Barack Hussein Obama is milking it just like Bush milked 911 during his re-election. Shameful.

Dr. King is a hero and his dream belongs to all Americans – black white hispanics jews philipino chinese japanese Indians middle easterners you name it all Americans. Not just for Barack Hussein Obama to use it for his advantage.

Ann   January 21st, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Jack K. Please explain to me who "they" are. I am a white woman that is Hillary's age, and I am voting for Barack Obama. So is being a "woman" a special interest group, or is being a Black American being a "special interest" group? I thought that being an American and voting for the candidate of our own personal choice is every American's right. So who is the "special interest" group that is hijacking our nomination process?

Anti Clintons   January 21st, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Principles, are you kidding me!! Clinton has no priciples at all, he ia a worthless guy who was impeached and he had affairs, those are priciples!! Oh man where is this country going? where has it been? Clinton is a big mouth good for nothing. If he was as aggressive in the whitehouse as he is now towards Obama, Osame would be no problem today, istead we are in Afghanistan because of Clinton. He would be making policy with Hitlery and heaven forbid that happens this country will really go down at it's own hand from inside it's own borders.

If those are goog "priciples" for the goon squad Clinton's, then we had better wake up as a nation and now!

Go Mitt!

JohnS   January 21st, 2008 4:39 pm ET

When the Dems lose to the Republicans in the general election, by putting Hillary out there as the nominee, and the following scenarios develop, it will be those same people (women, in particular) who will be complaining if their men refuse to go out there are clean up the mess. Imagine another Republican president in the White House, what do we think is going to happen:

1. Rowe vs. Wade will be toasted– history. Our young daughters will go back to the dark ages. Women's rights will face serious challenges in this nation. The Supreme Court will, for generations, be in the pocket of the Republicans. People are playing with real FIRE here, and it will BURN!!!

2. The rights of minorities– Latino/Latina, Blacks and so on will be reversed gradually. People should think seriously about these serious ramifications.

3. The gap between the rich and the middle class will even get wider.

4. Why not anticipate another war? Indeed, the Republicans are good at it; so we should expect them to wage another war soon. People tend to do what they are good at!!

Alternatively, even if Hillary is elected president(?) which I seriously question, then what?
1. Will the House and Senate actually spread the RED CARPET for Hillary to do what she wants, or should the nation brace for more and more conflicts? Think about how they tinkerered with strong Bill!!! Hillary, well look at her emotional breakdown in NH.

2. What about the call for Bill's archives to be opened after the elections; what could be so damaging to Hillary that she would immediately become a lame duck president?

3. How will Bill behave in the White House with those young interns? I am glad that my sister is wiser than this; never a Clinton supporter following the history of the Clinton's in the White House. There is NO second chance here!

I sincerely hope the Dems, now that they have the backings of the Independents, and some moderate Republicans even in the House and Senate use "common sense" to shy away from the Clintons; at least for the sake of peace in this nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INDEPENDENT   January 21st, 2008 4:38 pm ET

As an INDEPENDENT, I am currently thinking about who will get my vote... I am coming to the realization that this primary is becomming about race... Obama and his supporters have achieved this. All non-black americans are becoming really turned off... But I am glad that I am finally seeing Obama's true colors... I guess an independent like myself will not be voting for him... bring on the rest of the candidates, I pass on this one...

Greg in OH   January 21st, 2008 4:30 pm ET

If Bill was continuing to have affairs, would that affect Hillary's voters/supporters? According to Huffington Post, the NY Times and LA Times have been sitting on a story about how Bill has been having affairs currently, but won't release until after the election. This is not me making it up, go out their and you can find this too.

So the question stands, does it affect voters if Bill is up to his old tricks?

Jack K., FT Myers, FL   January 21st, 2008 4:25 pm ET

The Democratic party is looking more and more like the-"everybody but a white guy party".

You see what John Edwards means about the special interest groups exerting so much power and influence on our politicians???

Now they're hijacking our nominating process...and nobody is saying a word!!

Darth Vadik, CA   January 21st, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Absolutely CORRECT.

100% CORRECT

PROOF: All the racist Democrats that couldn't take the idea of LBJ signing into lawt he desegregation act, LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND BECAME REPUBLICANS (Dixiecrats).

PLUS: AT THAT TIME DEMOCRATS LOST THE SOUTH FOR TWO GENERATIONS.

Democrats are a party of diversity, that is why we don't walk in lock-step with our "dear" leaders, like Republicans do.

Dave   January 21st, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Atlanta mayor takes political shot at Bill Clinton
During the MLK service, Franklin addresses Clinton's reference to Barack Obama's rise as a 'fairy tale'

By AARON GOULD SHEININ
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 01/21/08

With former President Bill Clinton standing not 20 feet in front of her, Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin took what appeared to be a political shot at the former president's comments about Barack Obama's candidacy.

Speaking at the 40th annual MLK commemorative service at Ebenezer Baptist Church, Franklin said the country is on the "cusp of turning the impossible into reality. Yes this is reality, not fantasy or fairy tales."

Clinton, in supporting his wife Hillary's bid for the Democratic nomination, recently took heat for using the term "fairy tale" to describe Obama's depiction of his stance on the war.

Franklin has endorsed Obama, who spoke from the same pulpit at Ebenezer on Sunday.

Today, after Franklin's remarks, the crowd of more than 2000 rose to its feet – except for Bill Clinton, who sat in his front pew seat and clapped politely.

Five seats to Clinton's left sat another former Arkansas govenor, Republican Mike Huckabee, also seeking his party's nomination as president. He stood at the end of Franklin's remarks.

During his address, Clinton responded to Franklin's remarks. "Mayor Franklin already took care of the political stuff. I wouldn't have said it quite the way she did but she got it all out there."

Earlier in her address, Franklin said the country was nearing a historic occasion when it could elect as president, "a former first lady, a Mormon, a Baptist preacher, and yes, a black man."

The first lady is Hillary Clinton, the Mormon is Republican Mitt Romney, the Baptist preacher is Huckabee, and the "black man" is Obama.

Real Chance   January 21st, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Exit polls revealed Clinton voters are less educated.

Why is this important? Hillary’s appeal is premised on the fact that her husband was President during a good economy in his second term.

Clinton takes credit for the Internet boom that started in 1995 and went bust in 2000. That boom increased income tax money paid to the Government. We had a short-term balanced budget. That was a fluke that the Clintons had nothing to do with.

Hillary Clinton’s nomination depends on the, “I was workin’ lots cuzza da Clintons” crowd that is uneducated and uninformed.

Hillary claims to have leadership experience based on her Husband’s time in office. The fact is that she did not even have a security clearance and had little to no policy input after her embarrassing healthcare failure early in the first term.

Clinton’s whole basis for winning will be easily deflated during the general election campaign. Just imagine a question to Hillary in a Presidential debate; How did Bush cause the recession that started just 2 months into his Presidency, before any of his policies had been implemented? The economy started slowing 7 months before Bush took over.

When her premise for why she should be elected is discredit, the Republicans will win.

Maybe the less educated should not pick our nominee!

Hillary has NO leadership experience!

Hillary IS polarizing!

Hillary is a NOT change!!!

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